From AskWoody: Don't patch, Don’t use Internet Explorer, and enhanced phishing protection in Office 365 ATP

[Debby Franson via Talk]

Hi everyone

AskWoody is a reputable web site with good technical advice.

Hold off patching until Tuesday if you haven't done it yet, because patches 
are causing havoc on some machines.


Internet Explorer has a vulnerability.

There is enhanced phishing protection in Office 365 ATP.

To read these areicles, follow this link.

<https://www.askwoody.com/>https://www.askwoody.com

It is a short link, because it is the home page.

Debby

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RE: Internet Explorer Help

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi:
I had that problem and turned off some things in Internet Explorer under the
View Menu.
I turned off most all the items under the ToolBar selections Menu.
Also, there are the items under the Explorer Bar menu you might want to
experiment with turning off.
I do have the tools bar locked whatever that does.
In any event, I got rid of that particular situation but don't remember
exactly what I turned off under the ToolBar menus and the Explorer bar
menues.
Rick USA 

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of L Urie via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Internet Explorer Help

 Hi,

I'm using Windows 10 anniversary edition with the latest version of
Window-eyes. Are there settings I need to make so that when I open a web
page in IE I'm at the top of the page?  As it's set up now, I have to tab a
few times to get to it.  There are a few things  that are displayed like a
refresh button, a security button and favorites bar.  
Anyway to get rid of all that?

Thanks

Lee


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Re: Internet Explorer Help

[Tony C via Talk]

   I have the same thing happen a lot. My home page is google, whe I ope IE 
it usually puts me in the edit search box, but then if I go to M.facebook it 
usually puts me up at the top of the window where the refreash button, etc 
is and it takes several tabs to get to the page.


-Original Message- 
From: L Urie via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:36 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Internet Explorer Help

Hi,

I'm using Windows 10 anniversary edition with the latest version of
Window-eyes. Are there settings I need to make so that when I open a web
page in IE I'm at the top of the page?  As it's set up now, I have to
tab a few times to get to it.  There are a few things  that are
displayed like a refresh button, a security button and favorites bar.
Anyway to get rid of all that?

Thanks

Lee


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Internet Explorer Help

[L Urie via Talk]

Hi,

I'm using Windows 10 anniversary edition with the latest version of 
Window-eyes. Are there settings I need to make so that when I open a web 
page in IE I'm at the top of the page?  As it's set up now, I have to 
tab a few times to get to it.  There are a few things  that are 
displayed like a refresh button, a security button and favorites bar.  
Anyway to get rid of all that?


Thanks

Lee


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Re: Edit boxes in Firefox and Internet Explorer

[Andy Baracco via Talk]

That would work, but it is a lot of unnecessary work, and you shouldn't have 
to do it.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: David via Talk

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:40 AM
To: Reg Webb ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Edit boxes in Firefox and Internet Explorer

I agree, things should have worked differently. I have seen this kind of
behavior once in a while. One workaround is as follows.


1. Go to the Edit Box, and turn off the Browse Mode.

2. Mark all the text, and copy it to the clipboard.

3. Hit Ctrl-A, then Del, to delete the text from the editbox.

4. Open things like Notepad, and paste in your copied text.

5. Do your editting, and then copy all back to the clipboard.

6. Go back to the Editbox, with browse mode still turned off, and paste
in your etxt.


Like I said, it is a workaround - though a rather long way around a
simple bush. Things really should not have to be that way, and I don't
have a good answer on why they are.



David

On 9/22/2016 8:44 AM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:

Hi Ahsley

Thanks for trying, but I don't think I explained the problem properly.
I know how to turn browse mode on and off.  The problem is that, when
browse mode is off, I should be able to edit what I've written.  When
this happens, for whatever reason, the edit box goes silent, and normal
reviewing with the arrow keys produces only silence.  The whole box
reads with browse mode turned on, but it obviously can't be edited.  So
far, the only way I've found to make the box speak when browse mode is
off is to close and reopen W-E.
I hope that's clearer.



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Re: Edit boxes in Firefox and Internet Explorer

[David via Talk]

I agree, things should have worked differently. I have seen this kind of 
behavior once in a while. One workaround is as follows.


1. Go to the Edit Box, and turn off the Browse Mode.

2. Mark all the text, and copy it to the clipboard.

3. Hit Ctrl-A, then Del, to delete the text from the editbox.

4. Open things like Notepad, and paste in your copied text.

5. Do your editting, and then copy all back to the clipboard.

6. Go back to the Editbox, with browse mode still turned off, and paste 
in your etxt.


Like I said, it is a workaround - though a rather long way around a 
simple bush. Things really should not have to be that way, and I don't 
have a good answer on why they are.



David

On 9/22/2016 8:44 AM, Reg Webb via Talk wrote:
> Hi Ahsley
>
> Thanks for trying, but I don't think I explained the problem properly.
> I know how to turn browse mode on and off.  The problem is that, when
> browse mode is off, I should be able to edit what I've written.  When
> this happens, for whatever reason, the edit box goes silent, and normal
> reviewing with the arrow keys produces only silence.  The whole box
> reads with browse mode turned on, but it obviously can't be edited.  So
> far, the only way I've found to make the box speak when browse mode is
> off is to close and reopen W-E.
> I hope that's clearer.
>

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Re: Edit boxes in Firefox and Internet Explorer

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Hi Ahsley

Thanks for trying, but I don't think I explained the problem properly.
I know how to turn browse mode on and off.  The problem is that, when
browse mode is off, I should be able to edit what I've written.  When
this happens, for whatever reason, the edit box goes silent, and normal
reviewing with the arrow keys produces only silence.  The whole box
reads with browse mode turned on, but it obviously can't be edited.  So
far, the only way I've found to make the box speak when browse mode is
off is to close and reopen W-E.
I hope that's clearer.

-- 
Reg


On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 16:28:33 -0500
Ashley Breger  wrote:

>  When you are in and edit box try pressing control shift a to browse off
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 21, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Reg Webb via Talk 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Even with the latest W-E (windows7 64 bit), I still find that I'm
> > suddenly unable to review an edit box, and I have to close and restart
> > W-E so that the edit box starts behaving properly with browse mode off. 
> > With browse mode on, I can hear what I've just written, but I can't
> > change it.
> > 
> > Also, has anyone found a way of making Facebook comments behave like
> > standard edit boxes?  At the moment, while the cursor can be anywhere in
> > the box, your comment will read from the top every time, which is 
> > irritating,
> > especially if it's a long comment.
> > -- 
> > Reg
> > 
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Re: Edit boxes in Firefox and Internet Explorer

[Ashley Breger via Talk]

 When you are in and edit box try pressing control shift a to browse off

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2016, at 11:35 AM, Reg Webb via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Even with the latest W-E (windows7 64 bit), I still find that I'm
> suddenly unable to review an edit box, and I have to close and restart
> W-E so that the edit box starts behaving properly with browse mode off. 
> With browse mode on, I can hear what I've just written, but I can't
> change it.
> 
> Also, has anyone found a way of making Facebook comments behave like
> standard edit boxes?  At the moment, while the cursor can be anywhere in
> the box, your comment will read from the top every time, which is irritating,
> especially if it's a long comment.
> -- 
> Reg
> 
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Edit boxes in Firefox and Internet Explorer

[Reg Webb via Talk]

Even with the latest W-E (windows7 64 bit), I still find that I'm
suddenly unable to review an edit box, and I have to close and restart
W-E so that the edit box starts behaving properly with browse mode off. 
With browse mode on, I can hear what I've just written, but I can't
change it.

Also, has anyone found a way of making Facebook comments behave like
standard edit boxes?  At the moment, while the cursor can be anywhere in
the box, your comment will read from the top every time, which is irritating,
especially if it's a long comment.
-- 
Reg


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internet explorer help needed

[Dennis Long via Talk]

When I open internet explorer it says favorites tree view favorites bar
closed.  How do I stop this favorites bar is not checked in view.  Thanks.

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Internet Explorer and Brows Mode Freezing Issue Progress

[via Talk]

When using Facebook chat, it's a good idea to delete your conversations 
every so often.  Otherwise, Facebook chat seems to use up a lot of resources 
for some reason.  I guess if you check your e-mail online, you should 
occasionally do the same for similar reasons.  Whether e-mails or conversations 
via Facebook chat, I do understand that some people, including myself, like to 
keep record of their messages, conversations, etc. to see their progress over 
time.  But I guess if your system is going to crash, you won't be able to do 
that forever.

Hope this helps,

Chris
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Re: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue

[net bat via Talk]

it doesn't make any difference how much you upgrade w e. when i upgraded to 9.4 
there were 3 factory set files that were out of date.

two were firefox and i e. in my case i couldn't turn browse mode on.
i would also try clearing the i e cache. sometimes this will cause it to crash.

try disableing any add ons. they may be causeing crashes.

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From: via Talk

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 4:33 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue

   I uninstalled WE9.3.1.0 and then installed 9.4.  I've had this problem 
since WE9.0!  I think this is most noticeable when part of a page includes info 
you must scroll through, such as Facebook chat, checking e-mail online, etc..


- Original Message -
From: net bat
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue
To: chriskfro...@optonline.net, Window-Eyes Discussion List


did you also update the factory set files? sometimes this helps.

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From: via Talk

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:00 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue

While I don't get this issue as much in Chrome, I prefer IE
because Window-Eyes
lets me have more control of the mouse and reads more
descriptions of buttons.
After turning everything off in Verbosity>Brows Mode, the issue
isn't as bad,
but is still annoying. I even updated to WE9.4.
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Re: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue

[via Talk]

I uninstalled WE9.3.1.0 and then installed 9.4.  I've had this problem 
since WE9.0!  I think this is most noticeable when part of a page includes info 
you must scroll through, such as Facebook chat, checking e-mail online, etc..

- Original Message -
From: net bat 
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue
To: chriskfro...@optonline.net, Window-Eyes Discussion List 

> did you also update the factory set files? sometimes this helps.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:00 PM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue
> 
> While I don't get this issue as much in Chrome, I prefer IE 
> because Window-Eyes 
> lets me have more control of the mouse and reads more 
> descriptions of buttons. 
> After turning everything off in Verbosity>Brows Mode, the issue 
> isn't as bad, 
> but is still annoying. I even updated to WE9.4.
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Re: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue

[net bat via Talk]

did you also update the factory set files? sometimes this helps.

-Original Message- 
From: via Talk

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:00 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue

While I don't get this issue as much in Chrome, I prefer IE because Window-Eyes 
lets me have more control of the mouse and reads more descriptions of buttons. 
After turning everything off in Verbosity>Brows Mode, the issue isn't as bad, 
but is still annoying.  I even updated to WE9.4.

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Internet Explorer 11 and Brows Mode Computer Freezing Issue

[via Talk]

While I don't get this issue as much in Chrome, I prefer IE because Window-Eyes 
lets me have more control of the mouse and reads more descriptions of buttons.  
After turning everything off in Verbosity>Brows Mode, the issue isn't as bad, 
but is still annoying.  I even updated to WE9.4.
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What advantage will an accessible Edge browser be over Internet Explorer?

[Kevin Minor via Talk]

Hi.

The subject says it all.  I'm a happy user of IE, but there may be some things 
that Edge will do that it can't.  The only thing Edge will have over IE is it 
will be more current.

The discussion of different browsers reminds me of 20 years ago.  Back then, 
the browser of choice was Netscape.  I was happy using that, then IE came 
along.  It took screen readers a while to work with the new browser, but they 
eventually did.  I figure that Edge will be similar.

Just some thoughts and a question to ponder.

Have a blessed day, and don't work too hard.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: More On Internet Explorer Crashes

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I assume you mean Active X Filtering. I've hardly ever had this turned on. 
When I did, it did slow down things quite a bit and caused some audio and 
video files not to play. By default, IE has this turned off. However, IE has 
CPU rendering on by default, so if yhou reset IE, you should change it to 
Software Rendering.


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Thomas via Talk

Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 4:16 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: More On Internet Explorer Crashes

Hi:
I found 2 settings so far that impact lockups and, or, crashes.
The software rendering setting I described earlier and now I can further
reduce long pauses and lockups by checking or unchecking the block activeX
setting under the Tools Menu in Internet Explorer.
Crashes are caused when something that IE is trying to load or run crashes
or has delays.
Some of these are activeX controls.
On pages that use these for things like audio / video or advertising
blocking the activeX execution will make things run smother and cleaner.
On some pages blocking activeX might cause a video not to play, others the
videos will still play normally.
I am now checking block activeX on sites I want to read or use in any way
but if I get a problem with something not playing like a video I Uncheck
this setting.
There is a tracking setting I have not played with but, from what I have
read, is akin to the adBlock software with lists and all that jazz and I may
try that out sooner or later unless we get Edge pretty soon.
But then there is getting to be allot of settings to try and coordinate
whenever you want something on a page to just render properly without any
lengthly pauses or crashes me thinks.
I can remember to turn on or off activeX for various sites and even cpu
versus software rendering I use but adding another setting into the mix is
going to get pretty confusing to fix quickly if something doesn't work as
advertised on some site.
Rick USA

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More On Internet Explorer Crashes

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi:
I found 2 settings so far that impact lockups and, or, crashes.
The software rendering setting I described earlier and now I can further
reduce long pauses and lockups by checking or unchecking the block activeX
setting under the Tools Menu in Internet Explorer.
Crashes are caused when something that IE is trying to load or run crashes
or has delays.
Some of these are activeX controls.
On pages that use these for things like audio / video or advertising
blocking the activeX execution will make things run smother and cleaner.
On some pages blocking activeX might cause a video not to play, others the
videos will still play normally.
I am now checking block activeX on sites I want to read or use in any way
but if I get a problem with something not playing like a video I Uncheck
this setting.
There is a tracking setting I have not played with but, from what I have
read, is akin to the adBlock software with lists and all that jazz and I may
try that out sooner or later unless we get Edge pretty soon.
But then there is getting to be allot of settings to try and coordinate
whenever you want something on a page to just render properly without any
lengthly pauses or crashes me thinks.
I can remember to turn on or off activeX for various sites and even cpu
versus software rendering I use but adding another setting into the mix is
going to get pretty confusing to fix quickly if something doesn't work as
advertised on some site.
Rick USA

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Internet Explorer Lockups

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: Lets change the Is WindowEyes causing Lockups topic title since it does
not appear to be a problem unique to WindowEyes.
Some folks are getting off topic in that thread and I am just trying to
narrow the problem down to see if we cant come up with a common set of items
to try and find or suggest a fix.
Rick USA

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Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Reg Webb via Talk]

-Annoyingly for anyone trying to replicate this, it happens to me too,
but only sometimes, and I've no idea why.

Restarting W-E restores readability in an edit box.

-
Reg
<regw...@btinternet.com>

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:11:57 +
Marc Solomon via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> Bob,
> I just tried entering text into the Write a comment edit box on the Mobile 
> Facebook. After entering a few words, I then used my Left and Right Arrow 
> keys to review the text. I repeated this test several times. I was unable to 
> reproduce the issue you reported in this particular case. I tried using both 
> Firefox 44 and IE 11 using the Window-Eyes 9.3.1 under Windows 10 Pro  
> version 15211 32-bit. But, I was able to reproduce the issue you reported on 
> the Amazon website. In both IE 11 and Firefox 44, after typing into the 
> unlabeled search edit box towards the top of the page, Window-Eyes stopped 
> speaking the characters when navigating with Left and Right Arrows. With that 
> said, I could only reproduce this issue once in each browser and now it is 
> working every time I test it. Maybe you are already know about this, but 
> Amazon has created a version of their website optimized for screen readers at 
> www.amazon.com/access. I am  not a big fan of creating a separate website for 
> accessib
 il
>  ity but if it provides a better experience and doesn't limit any 
> functionality, it might be worth checking out. These types of intermittent 
> issues can be very frustrating and can impact your productivity. If you can 
> find a way to reliably duplicate this issue on demand, please let us know as 
> it will give us a much better chance of identifying the cause and possibly 
> creating a solution.
> Regards,
> Marc
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: bob jutzi [mailto:ju...@windstream.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:37 AM
> To: Marc Solomon <msolo...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
> Subject: Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and 
> internet explorer
> 
> Mark, this happens when posting comments on FB Mobile or entering text 
> in Amazon search boxes.  I am able to enter info, but not read itusing 
> arrow keys.  Occasionally, the CTRL-Alt-W Window-eyes relaunch fixes 
> things.I do have Compatibility mode enabled.
> On 2/16/2016 7:04 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
> > Bob,
> > Can you provide a specific web page where you can't fill out a form and the 
> > steps to duplicate? I would like to try and duplicate the issue on my Win 
> > 8.1 and 10 PCs.
> > Regards,
> > Marc
> >
> > Sent with AquaMail for Android
> > http://www.aqua-mail.com
> >
> >
> > On February 16, 2016 6:57:53 PM bob jutzi via Talk 
> > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Neglected to indicate that I've experienced both under Windows 8 and 10.
> >>
> >> On 2/16/2016 6:54 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:
> >>> No luck for me using the latest Thunderbird and Window-eyes.
> >>> I still am unable to edit messages in Thunderbird as well as edit forms
> >>> in IE or Firefox.  This is completely unacceptible as I have no issues
> >>> with either using the free screen reader.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2/16/2016 6:41 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times
> >>>> in the past few months but here it is again.
> >>>>
> >>>> The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8
> >>>> and W10.
> >>>> Neville.
> >>>>
> >>>> Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
> >>>> accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use
> >>>> WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted
> >>>> assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the
> >>>> case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
> >>>> with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with
> >>>> the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mous

Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[bob jutzi via Talk]

Mark, this happens when posting comments on FB Mobile or entering text 
in Amazon search boxes.  I am able to enter info, but not read itusing 
arrow keys.  Occasionally, the CTRL-Alt-W Window-eyes relaunch fixes 
things.I do have Compatibility mode enabled.

On 2/16/2016 7:04 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Bob,
Can you provide a specific web page where you can't fill out a form and the 
steps to duplicate? I would like to try and duplicate the issue on my Win 8.1 
and 10 PCs.
Regards,
Marc

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On February 16, 2016 6:57:53 PM bob jutzi via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> 
wrote:


Neglected to indicate that I've experienced both under Windows 8 and 10.

On 2/16/2016 6:54 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:

No luck for me using the latest Thunderbird and Window-eyes.
I still am unable to edit messages in Thunderbird as well as edit forms
in IE or Firefox.  This is completely unacceptible as I have no issues
with either using the free screen reader.


On 2/16/2016 6:41 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times
in the past few months but here it is again.

The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8
and W10.
Neville.

Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird


Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use
WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted
assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the
case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.


A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with
the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.


Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
accessible as well.


Unfortunately it is not known for sure whether this technique will work
as well under W8 and W10 as it does under W7 32 and 64 bit. If you do
try it under W8 or W10, please inform the list of your results. i.e.
Either positive or negative.


HTH

Neville.




This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.


The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to
find it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the
correct one to change.



block quote

1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter

about:config

   in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.

2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list
of options.

3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option
in the


list.

the following are entries to search for:


gfx.direct2d.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.acceleration.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled

if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the

value to false.


press control+w to close the configuration window.

restart Thunderbird/Firefox.


On 17/02/2016 3:16 AM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how
to fix this. V

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox,
and internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox,
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try


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RE: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how to fix 
this. V  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and 
internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox, 
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A 
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I 
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try
-- 
Casey
to read with the mouse keys in any of those programs.
I am soon going to upgrade to the latest version of window-eyes.
So then will that fix this also?

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Re: to upgrade to internet explorer 11 or stay with 10

[Jim via Talk]

Casey, I have been running I.E.11 for a verry long time now and have had 
little or no trouble with it.  I did have some problems when I was using 
W.E.8.4 but since I have upgraded my I.E. I have had practically no 
trouble at all.  Oh, I do have times when I must restart I.E. with the 
hotkey but that is more of a nusence than anything else.  So I would say 
'Go For IT!'  Good Luck & Have A Great Day!

.
On 30-Jan-16 00:42, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I am running window-eyes 9.0.
And I am wondering should I upgrade to internet explorer 11 since 
support 10 is going away at some point?

Or is it better to stay with 10 as it is?
If it is A good idea to upgrade to explorer 11 where is the best place 
to get it from?





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Re: to upgrade to internet explorer 11 or stay with 10

[net bat via Talk]

your not going to get the i e security updates when microsoft stops supporting 
i e 10
and the best place to get i e 11 is on the microsoft.com web site. any other 
site you run the risk of installing one that has a virus in it.


-Original Message- 
From: Casey via Talk

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 9:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: to upgrade to internet explorer 11 or stay with 10

Hi I am running window-eyes 9.0.
And I am wondering should I upgrade to internet explorer 11 since
support 10 is going away at some point?
Or is it better to stay with 10 as it is?
If it is A good idea to upgrade to explorer 11 where is the best place
to get it from?


--
Casey
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to upgrade to internet explorer 11 or stay with 10

[Casey via Talk]

Hi I am running window-eyes 9.0.
And I am wondering should I upgrade to internet explorer 11 since 
support 10 is going away at some point?

Or is it better to stay with 10 as it is?
If it is A good idea to upgrade to explorer 11 where is the best place 
to get it from?



--
Casey
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No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

[Simon Cavendish via Talk]

Hi,

I went to the page from which one can download vocalizer voices for 
Window-eyes.  When I opened the combo box in which to choose a language and 
then the following one where you choose the voice, I had no voice feedback from 
Window-eyes.  Had I not been using a Braille display, I wouldn't be able to 
make the choice.  I run latest window-eyes in Windows 10 64bit.  Anybody else 
had this experience?  Can it be fixed or is it a bug?

Many thanks

Simon
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Re: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

[bob jutzi via Talk]

I have that same issue with both IE and Firefox running the same OS 
regardless of the site I am reading.  And enabling Compatibility Mode in 
IE does nothing.



On 1/14/2016 3:31 AM, Simon Cavendish via Talk wrote:

Hi,

I went to the page from which one can download vocalizer voices for 
Window-eyes.  When I opened the combo box in which to choose a language and 
then the following one where you choose the voice, I had no voice feedback from 
Window-eyes.  Had I not been using a Braille display, I wouldn't be able to 
make the choice.  I run latest window-eyes in Windows 10 64bit.  Anybody else 
had this experience?  Can it be fixed or is it a bug?

Many thanks

Simon
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Re: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

[kitty hevener via Talk]

sometimes I have to hit alt-down arrow to open the box then use up and down 
arrows to find what I want.  Need to close that combo box with alt-up arrow.


-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:01 PM
To: Simon Cavendish ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

Hi Simon,

I just tested this on my Windows 10 32-bit PC running IE 11, Firefox 43.02 
and Window-Eyes 9.3.1. After opening the Get More Voices page, I pressed C 
and jumped to the first combo box. I turned Browse Mode off with Enter. 
Window-Eyes then voiced the combo box selection as I arrowed through the 
list with Up and Down arrow. I then tabbed to all the other combo boxes on 
the page and they also read as expected. I am using the default settings in 
both browsers other than setting my home page to Google. The only thing I 
can think of is maybe the combo boxes you are working with are empty would 
explain why nothing speaks with Up and Down arrow.


Regards,
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Simon Cavendish via Talk

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:31 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

Hi,

I went to the page from which one can download vocalizer voices for 
Window-eyes.  When I opened the combo box in which to choose a language and 
then the following one where you choose the voice, I had no voice feedback 
from Window-eyes.  Had I not been using a Braille display, I wouldn't be 
able to make the choice.  I run latest window-eyes in Windows 10 64bit. 
Anybody else had this experience?  Can it be fixed or is it a bug?


Many thanks

Simon
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RE: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Hi Simon,

I just tested this on my Windows 10 32-bit PC running IE 11, Firefox 43.02 and 
Window-Eyes 9.3.1. After opening the Get More Voices page, I pressed C and 
jumped to the first combo box. I turned Browse Mode off with Enter. Window-Eyes 
then voiced the combo box selection as I arrowed through the list with Up and 
Down arrow. I then tabbed to all the other combo boxes on the page and they 
also read as expected. I am using the default settings in both browsers other 
than setting my home page to Google. The only thing I can think of is maybe the 
combo boxes you are working with are empty would explain why nothing speaks 
with Up and Down arrow. 

Regards,
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+msolomon=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Cavendish via Talk
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:31 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: No feedback in combo boxes in internet explorer

Hi,

I went to the page from which one can download vocalizer voices for 
Window-eyes.  When I opened the combo box in which to choose a language and 
then the following one where you choose the voice, I had no voice feedback from 
Window-eyes.  Had I not been using a Braille display, I wouldn't be able to 
make the choice.  I run latest window-eyes in Windows 10 64bit.  Anybody else 
had this experience?  Can it be fixed or is it a bug?

Many thanks

Simon
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Importing Bookmarks from Internet Explorer to Firefox

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Has anyone figured out how to import IE bookmarks into Firefox? I have done 
this before, but the goons at Mozilla have disabled mouse movement now, and I 
cannot find the option to backup and import any more. At this point, I hope I 
am missing something.
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Re: Importing Bookmarks from Internet Explorer to Firefox

[net bat via Talk]

i found it
press insert b to bypass the w e hot keys. then press shift control b to open 
the bookmark organise screen. there you can use the pull down menus to backup 
restore or import bookmarks.



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:06 PM
To: talk viaGW
Subject: Importing Bookmarks from Internet Explorer to Firefox

Has anyone figured out how to import IE bookmarks into Firefox? I have done 
this before, but the goons at Mozilla have disabled mouse movement now, and I 
cannot find the option to backup and import any more. At this point, I hope I 
am missing something.

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RE: Importing Bookmarks from Internet Explorer to Firefox

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Thank you so much for this.

Rod

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Subject: Re: Importing Bookmarks from Internet Explorer to Firefox

i found it
press insert b to bypass the w e hot keys. then press shift control b to
open 
the bookmark organise screen. there you can use the pull down menus to
backup 
restore or import bookmarks.


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:06 PM
To: talk viaGW
Subject: Importing Bookmarks from Internet Explorer to Firefox

Has anyone figured out how to import IE bookmarks into Firefox? I have done 
this before, but the goons at Mozilla have disabled mouse movement now, and
I 
cannot find the option to backup and import any more. At this point, I hope
I 
am missing something.
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RE: Internet Explorer

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Lee,

Have you considered using the current version of Mozilla Firefox?

Hth,

Rod

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Subject: Internet Explorer

Hello,

I'm using Vista Home Premium with Window-Eyes 7.5.1 and my browser is IE 9.

More and more often when I go to web sites, it tells me that I'm using an
out of date browser and that I should upgrade. Can I do this with the
version of Window-Eyes I'm currently running? I realise that I'm using an
older version of WE, however, my budget doesn't permit me to do anything
about that at this time.  Is there another browser I could use that would
work better?

Thanks

Lee  
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Internet Explorer

[L. Urie via Talk]

Hello,

I'm using Vista Home Premium with Window-Eyes 7.5.1 and my browser is IE 9.

More and more often when I go to web sites, it tells me that I'm using an out 
of date browser and that I should upgrade. Can I do this with the version of 
Window-Eyes I'm currently running? I realise that I'm using an older version of 
WE, however, my budget doesn't permit me to do anything about that at this 
time.  Is there another browser I could use that would work better?

Thanks

Lee  
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Internet Explorer Question

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

I'm having trouble with I.E. and don't understand.  My place markers are set 
with Firefox, but don't work with I.E. and the control-shift-k hot key doesn't 
work with I.
E.  I was hoping to switch , so the mouse keys would work, but there seems to 
be other problems with I.E.  the voice seems to stop working frequently.  Pain 
in the neck.



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Firefox and Internet Explorer 11 and Windows 8.1 think Cookies Question

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: some time ago I downloaded and ran Firefox as my primary browser due to
WE and IE 11 crashes but ran into so many problems with flash and WE crashes
I switched back to Internet Explorer 11 as my primary browser.
Now all the sites I visit don't seem to recognize me - I have to log into
them every time I visit them where before I was automatically logged in.
I had noticed something about cookies when I switched from IE 11 to FireFox
but it seemed normal at the time.
I have the privacy settings in IE 11 set to 2, either by default or by
FireFox or something since I have never changed it.
Does Firefox do anything with cookies and, or, muck with the Windows Cookies
folders or location?
Anyway, has anyone run across this situation and, or, do you have anything I
can look at to try and get my cookies or whatever working again so I don't
have to log on to every site over and over?
Rick USA 

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RE: INTERNET EXPLORER AND WINDOWS 10 WITH WE9.2.1

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

We need more details.
For starters what web site were you on, what were you trying to buy etc.
Chris

Chris


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On Behalf Of stephen thacker via Talk
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To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: INTERNET EXPLORER AND WINDOWS 10 WITH WE9.2.1

Hi, everytime I use ie the speech cuts off at times - I was trying to buy 
something and I pressed the button pay now and the speech died - I've left 
the machine on (my pc I mean as I'm using my Braillenote (latest machine) to 
write this email. 
Anything I can do please?

Cheers, Steve
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INTERNET EXPLORER AND WINDOWS 10 WITH WE9.2.1

[stephen thacker via Talk]

Hi, everytime I use ie the speech cuts off at times - I was 
trying to buy something and I pressed the button pay now and 
the speech died - I've left the machine on (my pc I mean as I'm 
using my Braillenote (latest machine) to write this email. 
Anything I can do please?


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Re: INTERNET EXPLORER AND WINDOWS 10 WITH WE9.2.1

[via Talk]

I just called and spoke with A.I. Tech support, and I was told they were
quickly working on another update, 9.3, and maybe that might fix some
things.  Also to check my system for malware and other conflicts.  

Other than that, use NVDA, which is not as good as Window Eyes, even on
a Bad day, and yet, sometimes it works better than 9.1 or 9.2.


-- 
Dave dlh...@centurylink.net

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Re: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

[Chris via Talk]

Hi Edge is accessible until it comes to browsing web pages. It can be 
done though but there will be no virtual cursor to interact with. This 
will get better over time and the next update to NVDA, 2015.3, will have 
experimental support.


On 08/08/2015 01:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:

Yeah,

I've heard the same thing.  I hear it's not very accessible, if even at
all.

Chris.
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To: 'stephen thacker' steve.thac...@btinternet.com; 'Window-Eyes
Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER



I don't think Edge is accessible yet.  It was rolled out at the last
minute
and the tutorials I've looked at encourage the use of IE.  I hope that
helps.  Shingles???  Yuck!  I hope you are on the up side of that.  Good
luck.

Jo Taliaferro

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To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

Hi, what are the differences between the two internet apps, is Edge as
easy
as ie, is Edge more complicated to use and if I wanted IE, how do I
ensure I
get using onend not the other?

I'm recovering from Shingles so please be delicate with me.

Thanks, Steve
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RE: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

[gary melconian via Talk]

I much rather use what i know works with all access tech products.   

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[mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:47 PM
To: Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion
List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

Hi Edge is accessible until it comes to browsing web pages. It can be done
though but there will be no virtual cursor to interact with. This will get
better over time and the next update to NVDA, 2015.3, will have experimental
support.

On 08/08/2015 01:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk wrote:
 Yeah,

 I've heard the same thing.  I hear it's not very accessible, if even 
 at all.

 Chris.
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 talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 To: 'stephen thacker' steve.thac...@btinternet.com; 'Window-Eyes 
 Discussion List' talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 7:28 PM
 Subject: RE: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER


 I don't think Edge is accessible yet.  It was rolled out at the last 
 minute and the tutorials I've looked at encourage the use of IE.  I 
 hope that helps.  Shingles???  Yuck!  I hope you are on the up side 
 of that.  Good luck.

 Jo Taliaferro

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 On Behalf Of stephen thacker via Talk
 Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:20 PM
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 Subject: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

 Hi, what are the differences between the two internet apps, is Edge 
 as easy as ie, is Edge more complicated to use and if I wanted IE, 
 how do I ensure I get using onend not the other?

 I'm recovering from Shingles so please be delicate with me.

 Thanks, Steve
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WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

[stephen thacker via Talk]

Hi, what are the differences between the two internet apps, is 
Edge as easy as ie, is Edge more complicated to use and if I 
wanted IE, how do I ensure I get using onend not the other?


I'm recovering from Shingles so please be delicate with me.

Thanks, Steve
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RE: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

[Jo Taliaferro via Talk]

I don't think Edge is accessible yet.  It was rolled out at the last minute
and the tutorials I've looked at encourage the use of IE.  I hope that
helps.  Shingles???  Yuck!  I hope you are on the up side of that.  Good
luck.

Jo Taliaferro

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To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

Hi, what are the differences between the two internet apps, is Edge as easy
as ie, is Edge more complicated to use and if I wanted IE, how do I ensure I
get using onend not the other?

I'm recovering from Shingles so please be delicate with me.

Thanks, Steve
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Re: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

[Christopher-Mark Gilland via Talk]

Yeah,

I've heard the same thing.  I hear it's not very accessible, if even at all.

Chris.
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To: 'stephen thacker' steve.thac...@btinternet.com; 'Window-Eyes 
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Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER



I don't think Edge is accessible yet.  It was rolled out at the last minute
and the tutorials I've looked at encourage the use of IE.  I hope that
helps.  Shingles???  Yuck!  I hope you are on the up side of that.  Good
luck.

Jo Taliaferro

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Behalf Of stephen thacker via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:20 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: WINDOWS EDGE OR INTERNET EXPLORER

Hi, what are the differences between the two internet apps, is Edge as 
easy
as ie, is Edge more complicated to use and if I wanted IE, how do I ensure 
I

get using onend not the other?

I'm recovering from Shingles so please be delicate with me.

Thanks, Steve
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Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

I have had fewer crashes with WE 9. than I've had in the last 5 years.

On 8/5/2015 2:34 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote:

I say again, that WE-9 is the crashiest edition of the program they have
ever put out!


  
-Original Message-

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Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Whizza; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

This is happening to me too, several other people have experienced the
issue.  so you're not alone.



On 8/5/2015 1:18 PM, Whizza via Talk wrote:

I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in
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Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[Whizza via Talk]

I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in Window-Eyes 
9.2 but no such luck.  I've had three crashes today alone.

Windows 7 64 bit with Window-Eyes 9.2.

Cheers,
Sandra. 


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Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

This is happening to me too, several other people have experienced the 
issue.  so you're not alone.




On 8/5/2015 1:18 PM, Whizza via Talk wrote:
I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in 
Window-Eyes 9.2 but no such luck.  I've had three crashes today alone.

Windows 7 64 bit with Window-Eyes 9.2.

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Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[tchild via Talk]

Hi, I have to say that since the upgrade to 9.2 I haven't been forced to 
restart due to a crash.  I'm using win 8.1 WE 9.2 and IE 11


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 12:40 PM
To: Whizza ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

This is happening to me too, several other people have experienced the
issue.  so you're not alone.



On 8/5/2015 1:18 PM, Whizza via Talk wrote:
I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in Window-Eyes 
9.2 but no such luck.  I've had three crashes today alone.

Windows 7 64 bit with Window-Eyes 9.2.

Cheers,
Sandra.
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RE: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[Josh Rivera via Talk]

I say again, that WE-9 is the crashiest edition of the program they have
ever put out!


 
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Whizza; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

This is happening to me too, several other people have experienced the 
issue.  so you're not alone.



On 8/5/2015 1:18 PM, Whizza via Talk wrote:
 I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in 
 Window-Eyes 9.2 but no such luck.  I've had three crashes today alone.
 Windows 7 64 bit with Window-Eyes 9.2.

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Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I use IE exclusively and can't remember the last time it crashed. I'd 
recommend going into Tools, Options, Advanced tab, and resetting 
advanced settings. Then Tools, Manage add-ons, and disable any you don't 
use.


Hth,
Tom


On 8/5/2015 2:34 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote:

I say again, that WE-9 is the crashiest edition of the program they have
ever put out!



-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Whizza; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

This is happening to me too, several other people have experienced the
issue.  so you're not alone.



On 8/5/2015 1:18 PM, Whizza via Talk wrote:

I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in
Window-Eyes 9.2 but no such luck.  I've had three crashes today alone.
Windows 7 64 bit with Window-Eyes 9.2.

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Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[Marvin Commerford via Talk]

Also clean up IE's history.  9.2 is working very well on this Win7 64 
bit machine with FF and IE.  I guess I forgot that browser crashes are 
almost always caused by the screen reader.


On 8/5/2015 2:23 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I use IE exclusively and can't remember the last time it crashed. I'd
recommend going into Tools, Options, Advanced tab, and resetting
advanced settings. Then Tools, Manage add-ons, and disable any you don't
use.

Hth,
Tom


On 8/5/2015 2:34 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote:

I say again, that WE-9 is the crashiest edition of the program they have
ever put out!



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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Whizza; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet
Explorer 11

This is happening to me too, several other people have experienced the
issue.  so you're not alone.



On 8/5/2015 1:18 PM, Whizza via Talk wrote:

I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in
Window-Eyes 9.2 but no such luck.  I've had three crashes today alone.
Windows 7 64 bit with Window-Eyes 9.2.

Cheers,
Sandra.
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Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Ah yes. Good point. I go into Control Panel, Internet options, and 
delete everything other than favorites about once a week. Although I 
have my history set to 0 because I never use it.


Tom


On 8/5/2015 3:45 PM, Marvin Commerford wrote: Also clean up IE's 
history.  9.2 is working very well on this Win7 64

 bit machine with FF and IE.  I guess I forgot that browser crashes are
 almost always caused by the screen reader.

 On 8/5/2015 2:23 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
 I use IE exclusively and can't remember the last time it crashed. I'd
 recommend going into Tools, Options, Advanced tab, and resetting
 advanced settings. Then Tools, Manage add-ons, and disable any you don't
 use.

 Hth,
 Tom


 On 8/5/2015 2:34 PM, Josh Rivera via Talk wrote:
 I say again, that WE-9 is the crashiest edition of the program they 
have

 ever put out!



 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+josh.riveranr=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
 Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:41 PM
 To: Whizza; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet
 Explorer 11

 This is happening to me too, several other people have experienced the
 issue.  so you're not alone.



 On 8/5/2015 1:18 PM, Whizza via Talk wrote:
 I was hoping that the crash issue with IE 11 would be fixed in
 Window-Eyes 9.2 but no such luck.  I've had three crashes today alone.
 Windows 7 64 bit with Window-Eyes 9.2.

 Cheers,
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Re: Still experiencing frequent crashes with Internet Explorer 11

[via Talk]

yes 9.X is definitely a Problem Child.  but I recall version 7 was a bit
of a fright as well.  

Sorry to hear that 9.2 is still having issues.  

According to some, 9.2 is working fine for them.  but, I have seen this
before, as not all systems run the same software the same.  

there were times I would be asked, by my Boss, to test the Companies latest
software, and I would find bugs, report them to the Boss.  He would then
check them on his system using the same build of the software, and there
were times, he could find no problems.  And yet on my system, I could
repeat problems.  


i recall one time, we had a big big problem, but we could not duplicate
the problem on any system in the Company.  And yet we had a problem.  We
finally had a customer that had called in, that lived close to the shop
where we worked.  i actually talked one of the programmers to go out to
the guys house and see what he could find.  the programmer drove to the
customers house, and sure enough, he was able to figure out why our
program had issues.  Came back, made a few adjustments in the code. 
recompile and the big problem went away.  

All Computers run Windows and the programs made for Windows.   Just some
run them better than others.  



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RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Baracco, Andrew W via Talk]

Butch, as I recall, you sold me my Apple 2E in 1983. I used it until
1992 and sold it to a friend who used it to drive a Braille embosser for
a few more years after that.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+andrew.baracco=va@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 11:49 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

Such memories, got my first Apple 2 e in 1983.  Anyone remember file
talk?  Got an ibm clone in 85 and ran screen talk with prokey.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sun, 2 
Aug 2015, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:

 I started out with artic vision, and for a short time, I had a
computer that 
 I was supposed to get if I got a job that had vocal eyes on it.  But I
was so 
 used to the Artic that I didn't like the vocal eyes.  Yes, diskettes,
the 
 five inch soft ones and the 3.5-inch ones.  Somewhere, I still have
them! 
 Pam.

 -Original Message- From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk
 Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:12 AM
 To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

 I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
 wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here?
lol
 This is really back from the past


 
 regards
 Thomas N. Chan
 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
 Of Tom Kingston via Talk
 Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
 To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

 You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW
 Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

 Sheesh! Now I suddenly feel old. Thanks a bunch. (grin)

 Tom


 On 8/1/2015 7:40 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:
  Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW
over the
  past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to 9.2.

  -Original Message-
  From: Talk
  [mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On
  Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
  Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
  Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer
 

  Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is
turned
 on
  by default called Do not track.

  http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

  It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the
security of
  Windows not make it worse.

  Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

  ==Steve
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RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Baracco, Andrew W via Talk]

I do not believe that Window Eyes existed in 1993. As I recall, the
first screen reader that could access Windows was Window Bridge, in 1993
followed shortly after by JFW. Window Eyes came late to the party, I
believe in 1995.

Andy


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From: Talk
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Behalf Of gary melconian via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:06 PM
To: 'Tom Kingston'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I  started in 1993 with window eyes. I don know exactly but I know it
was the early dayswith version 3 and then version 4. I hhad purchased
every version plus sma's all the way up to 8.4.  Due to  personal
finances  I have decided to go the office route once it was available as
of 9.  So I have not had any tech related issues hta I can think of.  I
am glad tha widnow eyes was the first ot support chrome. Also they have
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Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Wow, another Artic vision user!  Do you remember the Artic vision bbs?

-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 9:17 AM
To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I started out with artic vision, and for a short time, I had a computer that
I was supposed to get if I got a job that had vocal eyes on it.  But I was
so used to the Artic that I didn't like the vocal eyes.  Yes, diskettes, the
five inch soft ones and the 3.5-inch ones.  Somewhere, I still have them!
Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here? lol
This is really back from the past



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW
Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

Sheesh! Now I suddenly feel old. Thanks a bunch. (grin)

Tom


On 8/1/2015 7:40 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:

Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW over the
past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to 9.2.

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Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer


Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is turned

on

by default called Do not track.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security of
Windows not make it worse.

Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Yes, they called it winvision.  I had a disk of it, but I didn't have 
windows at the time.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W via Talk

Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 1:17 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

They also came out with a Windows screen reader. I have several friends
who really liked it, but they stopped development on it.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 6:24 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

Wow, another Artic vision user!  Do you remember the Artic vision bbs?

-Original Message-
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 9:17 AM
To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I started out with artic vision, and for a short time, I had a computer
that I was supposed to get if I got a job that had vocal eyes on it.
But I was so used to the Artic that I didn't like the vocal eyes.  Yes,
diskettes, the five inch soft ones and the 3.5-inch ones.  Somewhere, I
still have them!
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here? lol
This is really back from the past



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW
Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

Sheesh! Now I suddenly feel old. Thanks a bunch. (grin)

Tom


On 8/1/2015 7:40 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:

Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW over
the past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to

9.2.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer


Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is
turned

on

by default called Do not track.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security



of Windows not make it worse.

Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

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RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Thomas N. Chan via Talk]

I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here? lol
This is really back from the past



regards
Thomas N. Chan 
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW 
Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

Sheesh! Now I suddenly feel old. Thanks a bunch. (grin)

Tom


On 8/1/2015 7:40 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:
 Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW over the
 past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to 9.2.

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
 Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer


 Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is turned
on
 by default called Do not track.

 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

 It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security of
 Windows not make it worse.

 Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

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Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

LOL I remember those big floppy disks. Allthe wa from the Apple 2E up util 
about Windows 95 or so, or maybe that was 3.1.




Focus your powers and prepare for buttle.
-Original Message- 
From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 10:17 AM
To: Thomas N. Chan ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I started out with artic vision, and for a short time, I had a computer that
I was supposed to get if I got a job that had vocal eyes on it.  But I was
so used to the Artic that I didn't like the vocal eyes.  Yes, diskettes, the
five inch soft ones and the 3.5-inch ones.  Somewhere, I still have them!
Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here? lol
This is really back from the past



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW
Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

Sheesh! Now I suddenly feel old. Thanks a bunch. (grin)

Tom


On 8/1/2015 7:40 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:

Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW over the
past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to 9.2.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer


Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is turned

on

by default called Do not track.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security of
Windows not make it worse.

Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

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[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

I started out with artic vision, and for a short time, I had a computer that 
I was supposed to get if I got a job that had vocal eyes on it.  But I was 
so used to the Artic that I didn't like the vocal eyes.  Yes, diskettes, the 
five inch soft ones and the 3.5-inch ones.  Somewhere, I still have them! 
Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk

Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here? lol
This is really back from the past



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW
Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

Sheesh! Now I suddenly feel old. Thanks a bunch. (grin)

Tom


On 8/1/2015 7:40 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:

Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW over the
past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to 9.2.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer


Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is turned

on

by default called Do not track.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security of
Windows not make it worse.

Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

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Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

Such memories, got my first Apple 2 e in 1983.  Anyone remember file 
talk?  Got an ibm clone in 85 and ran screen talk with prokey.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


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I started out with artic vision, and for a short time, I had a computer that 
I was supposed to get if I got a job that had vocal eyes on it.  But I was so 
used to the Artic that I didn't like the vocal eyes.  Yes, diskettes, the 
five inch soft ones and the 3.5-inch ones.  Somewhere, I still have them! 
Pam.


-Original Message- From: Thomas N. Chan via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2015 4:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

I also started during the 90s when vocal-eyes was the king of dos,
wordperfect let's see, are we talking about diskettes here? lol
This is really back from the past



regards
Thomas N. Chan
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+thomas.nchan=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 2 August 2015 8:12 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: A new feature in Internet Explorer

You might want to check your timeline. 25 years ago I was using GW
Micro's VocalEyes on DOS and there was no such thing as Windows.

Sheesh! Now I suddenly feel old. Thanks a bunch. (grin)

Tom


On 8/1/2015 7:40 PM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:

 Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW over the
 past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to 9.2.

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk
 [mailto:talk-bounces+gmelconian619=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
 Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
 Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
 Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer


 Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is turned

on

 by default called Do not track.

 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

 It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security of
 Windows not make it worse.

 Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

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A new feature in Internet Explorer

[Stephen Clark via Talk]

Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is 
turned on by default called Do not track.


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security 
of Windows not make it worse.


Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

==Steve
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RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[gary melconian via Talk]

I  started in 1993 with window eyes. I don know exactly but I know it was the 
early dayswith version 3 and then version 4. I hhad purchased every version 
plus sma's all the way up to 8.4.  Due to  personal finances  I have decided to 
go the office route once it was available as of 9.  So I have not had any tech 
related issues hta I can think of.  I am glad tha widnow eyes was the first ot 
support chrome. Also they have been working with intuit in making  quickbooks 
accessible with window eyes.  

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RE: A new feature in Internet Explorer

[gary melconian via Talk]

Sure we will. I appreciate the products that I have used from GW over the
past 25 years of using windows eyes from 4.0 all the way up to 9.2.  

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: A new feature in Internet Explorer


Here is a feature that they've added to Internet explorer which is turned on
by default called Do not track.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/internet-explorer/ie-do-not-track

It's not perfect, but they are actually trying to improve the security of
Windows not make it worse.

Now, can we please get back to talking about Window-eyes?

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Internet Explorer View Source in Windows 10

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi list:

 

Previously, in Windows 8.1 and earlier, I could hit View Source and a
notepad-like page would pop up showing the page source I was viewing.

 

Now, in Windows 10, this brings up another window that WE has a little
trouble with.

 

Any way to get the old behavior back, or, am I stuck with this new view?  If
I am stuck with it, how can I make WE work better with it?

 

Thanks!

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Internet Explorer and Amazon

[Gary Petraccaro via Talk]

If this has been discussed, my appologies.  But, I tried to access Amazon's 
site including their accessibility site with MSIE11 and WE 9.1.  I found it 
problematic if I hit tab and expectecd to go to a new link, and the cursor keys 
were almost useless.  I don't remember this being the case not too long with 
Amazon.  This leads me to believe that either changes in design usage have made 
the web harder to use and that we will be having more problems in the future, 
or that Internet Explorer has become more and more worthless.  I would 
appreciate some input on this from anyone with experience.  It might be that 
I'm just not using WE to it's fullest capabilities.  Thanks in advance for the 
help.
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Re: Listening to BBC programmes with Internet Explorer and Firefox

[broxibear via Talk]

Peter, have you ever hear of listening to any BBC stations in the DAB format 
on the Internet.
Been trying to listen to BBC Scotland in DAB for sometime now, with no luck, 
Billy




- Original Message - 
From: Peter Beasley via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com

To: Reg Webb regw...@btinternet.com; talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: Listening to BBC programmes with Internet Explorer and Firefox



It dosn't bother me as I know exactly where to go
to to hear a programme.
-Original Message- 
From: Reg Webb via Talk

Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:31 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Listening to BBC programmes with Internet Explorer and Firefox

Hi all

I have Window-Eyes9.1, but I think I have experienced the differences
between these browsers under previous versions of Window-Eyes.
If I select a previously broadcast programme via
bbc.co.uk
Internet Explorer shows me a Listen with pop out player link, which
Firefox does not.
Is this true for me alone, or is this a general problem, and can it be
fixed?
I notice other controls on other sites, particularly buttons, which IE
shows and Firefox does not.
The apparent inaccessibility of the pop out player with Firefox is a
particular problem because its controls work really well once selected.
I would prefer Firefox to be my default browser if possible, but the
browser seems determined to make itself inaccessible in annoying ways,
while trumpeting its commitment to accessibility.
Why does Firefox fail to recognise some of the controls with which IE
seems to have no problem?
--
Reg
regw...@btinternet.com

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Re: Listening to BBC programmes with Internet Explorer and Firefox

[Joe Paton via Talk]

Samuel,

Here's a link to a dictionary for T-bird.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3337243/us-en-spchker.xpi
On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 13:39:18 +
Samuel Wilkins via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote:

Hello Reg, 
Sometimes I get the pop-out player control in Firefox.  I only recently
managed to make it visible again, but I have no idea what I did to do it,
except accidentally clicking on something.  

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+cleverclogs=gwilkins.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Reg Webb via Talk
Sent: 16 March 2015 10:31
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Listening to BBC programmes with Internet Explorer and Firefox

Hi all

I have Window-Eyes9.1, but I think I have experienced the differences
between these browsers under previous versions of Window-Eyes.
If I select a previously broadcast programme via
bbc.co.uk
Internet Explorer shows me a Listen with pop out player link, which
Firefox does not.
Is this true for me alone, or is this a general problem, and can it be
fixed?
I notice other controls on other sites, particularly buttons, which IE
shows and Firefox does not.
The apparent inaccessibility of the pop out player with Firefox is a
particular problem because its controls work really well once selected.
I would prefer Firefox to be my default browser if possible, but the
browser seems determined to make itself inaccessible in annoying ways,
while trumpeting its commitment to accessibility.
Why does Firefox fail to recognise some of the controls with which IE
seems to have no problem?
-- 
Reg
regw...@btinternet.com

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