Re: [Talk-GB] How to reference SotM?
On 1 November 2013 17:03, Filip Chirita Rares Cristian chirita.ra...@gmail.com wrote: I was at SotM and would like to reference one of the presentations there (Alyssa Wright's) but from what I see on my uni's referencing guidelines, I can only reference conference proceedings. Can you reference the videos of the presentations? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fixing tag error
Over the last few days, I've tagged a number of local (wider West Midlands) artworks (many newly mapped) with: artist:name instead of: artist_name Can someone remind me of the method of fixing these en mass, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Mystery artwork, Newtown, Birmingham
Anyone know anything about this artwork: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2499952738 it's not in any of my books. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Relation for group of listed buildings
I've just created this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/3247604 for a terrace of listed houses. How could I have done that better? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hand-drawn OS maps on Wikimedia Commons
On 2 October 2013 16:17, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: I think what is best is a 'world file'. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_file. I dont quite know what technology wikimedia are using, but there are some experienced wikimedians in the OSM community: Obviously there is a need to store geolocation metadata with maps on wikimedia, but it's not obvious to me how this is done at the moment. Taking: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ordnance_Survey_Drawings_-_Weymouth_(OSD_56).jpg as an example; note the use of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:OSD_coordinates to contain the four corner and central coordinates. That makes it easier to programmatically extract them. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Hand-drawn OS maps on Wikimedia Commons
On 28 September 2013 21:24, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Corner coordinates are now displaying, allowing these to be aligned adjusted to fit. Have fun! Would it e possible for someone to stitch all these into one layer for ooc.openstreetmap.org ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Hand-drawn OS maps on Wikimedia Commons
On 26 September 2013 12:39, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Thanks for the ad, Andy ;-) First Richard S, now you - do we have a lot of closet OSMappers in WikimedaUK, or are you just stalking me? ;-) [Snip useful backgroun0d] Please let me know if you think of anything interesting to do with them! I imagine someone from the OpenHistoryMap team will be along shortly... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] National speed limit changes
On 26 September 2013 12:59, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Vehicles to which other limits apply are usually driven by professionals I'd wager that far more cars-towing-caravans are driven by amateurs than professionals. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Blog post about Hampshire RoW open data
Mark Braggins, who works for Hampshire County council, has blogged about the reuse of their open data for RoWs: http://protohub.net/open-data-apps-and-maps/ It woudl be good if someone who ahs used that data to improve OSM could commnet on the blog explaining how; and giving some support, which might encourage further data releases. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Acesss behind houses in North Birmingham
A while ago, I mapped and tagged a few of the access/service roads behind houses in north Birmingham (locally, we call them gullies). You can see them on: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/52.5403/-1.9234 as, for example, brown/pink dashed lines south-east of Booth Farm Road; and white lanes either side of Perry Wood Road. Clearly the tagging is inconsistent. I'm not precious about it, so should they be re-tagged (how?), removed, or what? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Don't tell Brian...
...but I just added some Birmingham houses he'd missed! http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17874700 ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Library of Birmingham
The Library of Birmingham opens on Tuesday next week, but the building is now complete (I visited on Wednesday; pics at: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Library_of_Birmingham_-_interior_before_opening ) ' so I've removed the construction site tags. I also note that the amphitheatre is mapped, but not tagged. How should we do that? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Phone numbers in little England
On 22 August 2013 10:49, Andy Street m...@andystreet.me.uk wrote: +1 for converting to international format I wonder if there's any benefit in converting to the tel: URI 01protocol: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3966 (see also http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5341 ) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Brum A38 tunnel closures
Someone on Twitter commented it probably needs that closed label on the St Chads bit as well. I'm travelling, and on my mobile, so can't check or assist. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Jul 19, 2013 7:56 AM, Brian Prangle br...@mappa-mercia.org wrote: Hi everyone Tunnels closed in OSM at 0745 this am! Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Historic Maps - Can you help?
The Welsh government is much better in its approach to open licensing content than the UK's. I have Wikipedia contacts who talk to the former at the highest level, if an introduction is needed. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Jul 13, 2013 7:15 PM, Barnett, Phillip phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk wrote: There’s a National Library of Wales too, also with a large map collection … No idea about their access policy though. ** ** http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=introduction3 ** ** Phillip ** ** PHILLIP* *BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD LONDON WC1X 8XZ UNITED KINGDOM T +44 207 430 4474 E phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk WWW.ITN.CO.UK P Please consider the environment. Do you really need to print this email? *From:* Steven Horner [mailto:ste...@stevenhorner.com] *Sent:* 13 July 2013 18:19 *To:* Rob Nickerson *Cc:* histo...@openstreetmap.org; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Historic Maps - Can you help? ** ** I've used the NLS maps a lot and wish there were more maps from England available. Obviously this isn't a priority for them but would happily help in anyway I can. I have looked at their online georeferencer but almost all are done. It's a shame the English equivelant aren't as open. Steven On 13 Jul 2013 12:51, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:** ** Hi All, I have been speaking with the National Library of Scotland (NLS) about their large collection of historic maps. Currently they provide a online collection of historic maps as set out on their website [1]. Some of these are georeferenced and can be used in OSM [2]. There is lots more left to scan and georeference!! (Not all of them are Scotland maps, in fact there are many non-UK maps too). Question: Is anyone interested in helping georeference historic maps? The process is quite simple - NLS will do the scanning for us, we just need to follow the georeferencing guide [3] using a suitable piece of software such as QGIS (free). If you are interested in helping, what maps would you like to see? I am thinking maybe detailed Town Plans*, but we could also look at some emerging places maps (e.g. Antarctica). Regards, Rob *) Some Scottish Town Plans have already been scanned and just need georeferencing: http://maps.nls.uk/towns/index.html [1] http://maps.nls.uk/ [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Library_of_Scotland [3] http://geo.nls.uk/urbhist/guides_georeferencing.html ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb Please Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Independent Television News Limited unless specifically stated. This email and any files attached are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@itn.co.uk Please note that to ensure regulatory compliance and for the protection of our clients and business, we may monitor and read messages sent to and from our systems. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK
Great. I did approach him on Twitter; he's @LeoKelion, but hasn't replied. On Apr 11, 2013 12:49 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/**status/296244090415239168https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168 -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly On 11/04/13 11:03, Tom Chance wrote: You can always call the BBC up and ask if they would like a quote to give the piece balance. The Beeb love their balance, they get nervous if you suggest a piece lacks balance. So you'd suggest that the article includes a quote from critics who point out that the data is only available to Google, unlike OSM, blah. I don't have the number for the technology news desk, but the number for the web site general newsdesk used to be 0207 765 1065 and if you get through to any part of the news operation and ask for the web site technology desk they should put you through. Not that we have a press officer but Harry has done good work in the past putting out press releases :-) Tom On 11 April 2013 10:39, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu mailto:k...@k3v.eu wrote: On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.**org.uk a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: No mention of OSM in this piece: http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-22099960http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee suicide stories to emerge. It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to even sort out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add buildings, etc. Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself. Kevin __**_ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-gbhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Railway bridge numbers
On 10 April 2013 12:55, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: The first three characters are the Engineers Line Reference and used by the civils engineers for a few tens of miles of track (the signalling people have a completely separate location coding, and the timetable planners yet another...). Are these various code schemes documented anywhere? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Railway bridge numbers
On 9 April 2013 15:30, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 2013-04-09 14:39, Andy Mabbett wrote: All railway bridges (over- and under-) in the UK have a unique number. often carried on a metal (more recently plastic) identification plate, or painted on: That ref=B4124 is presumably the road number, not the bridge number. Good spot, I wonder if that would be better as ref:road=B4124 ? The tag bridge_ref (or bridge:ref or ref:bridge) is in fairly common use for bridge numbers. I had something more specific in mind; say ref:network_rail=XX Do you include the line reference as part of the bridge reference? I think its a good idea to do so, when its known. eg tag as something like bridge_ref=ETN/1601 No reason not to include the line, I suppose. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Railway bridge numbers
All railway bridges (over- and under-) in the UK have a unique number. often carried on a metal (more recently plastic) identification plate, or painted on: http://www.semgonline.com/structures/numbering.html Among other things, these are used to speedily identify the bridge in case of a vehicle strike which may pose a danger to trains or other traffic: http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/3563.aspx Do we have a scheme for tagging UK railway bridges with their numbers? I have looked on Wiki, and can't find anything, and my local bridges are either not tagged; or tagged (for example) ref = B4124: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/103233329 which does not identify that number as being a NetworkRail reference (if indeed it is, being on a road overbridge maintained by the local authority). If we do not have something more specific, I'm happy to draft something for discussion. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] operator = bcc
We seem to have a number of tags, in Birmingham, with a value of operator = bcc. Would it be possible, and sensible, to have these changed to operator = Birmingham City Council? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] operator = bcc
On 18 January 2013 21:59, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 January 2013 11:03, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: We seem to have a number of tags, in Birmingham, with a value of operator = bcc. Would it be possible, and sensible, to have these changed to operator = Birmingham City Council? Seems like a sensible idea. You can download just the data tagged operator=BCC using this URL: http://www.overpass-api.de/api/xapi?*[bbox=-2.169,52.339,-1.609,52.611][operator=BCC][@meta] Save it as an .osm file and open it in JOSM. Be sure to only change the tags and not the geometry (for which a full download would be more suitable). A similar URL can be used for operator=bcc (lowercase). According to taginfo there aren't too many uses globally so shouldn't take long to make this change. Thank you. There were far fewer than I expected; 15xBCC and 22xbcc. All now changed and uploaded. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Gritting map Dudley
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia/gritting says The gritting routes map was last updated on 3rd December, 2010 at 10am Is that really the most recent update? Are we due another? We have no routes showing for Dudley, though we have the data; is that mapped, yet? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Pronunciation of place names
My friend Terence Eden has some interesting comments on documenting the pronunciation of place names, in this blog post: http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2013/01/its-pronounced-reading/ on which I've added a comment. Can we solve the problem of how to do this, in OSM? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Winchester painted bollards
I was in Winchester before Christmas, and admired and photographed a set of traffic bollards, painted in the style of famous artists, or with topical scenes: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Winchester_painted_bollards The GPS details, form my mobile phone are not sufficiently accurate, and unfortunately, I neglected to log their positions. Could someone in the area survey and add them to the map, please? They can be tagged as public artworks. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Teaching OpenStreetMap and Wikipedia editing, Tupperware Party style
I've just blogged: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/teaching-openstreetmap-wikipedia-editing-tupperware-party/ [Note cross-post] -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Holte School
I've just demolished^W deleted the buildings of Holte School, Aston, and the neighbouring Junior and Infant School: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.50019lon=-1.90158zoom=17layers=M These were demolished (last year?) after the completion of new buildings, adjacent. Parts of the site are now being used to build what looks set to be new houses. The area needs a survey, if not now, then once that new build is complete. Obviously, wandering around a working school with a camera is not recommended. Perhaps someone (the council?) could be persuaded to share plans or drawings with us? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: Re: Birmingham Connected royalty free mapping
Forwarding to list, sorry. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Forwarded message -- From: Andy Mabbett pigsotw...@gmail.com Date: Nov 6, 2012 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Birmingham Connected royalty free mapping To: stuart lester stules...@googlemail.com One thing we could do with is a list of the totems and their coordinates - as open data. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Nov 5, 2012 9:19 PM, stuart lester stules...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, Following the ongoing work putting up the totems around Birmingham City Centre, I have chased the project manager for more information about what data they have captured. Currently the majority of the project is run by Centro, the maps data is being used for many of the altered bus route maps centro are producing. There is also some work about the retail shopping in the City Centre. In terms of getting to see what has been captured, how it will be maintained, etc. I am hoping to learn more with a meeting in a months time. Then I will have a better idea of what is captured, what can be done with it, find out if it will be released, etc. If you have any questions you want me to ask please let me know. It is obviously a bit daft given the quality of OpenStreetMap data, however I am interested to try and use the data if it will help OSM, I will keep you informed. Apparently there are anoutehr 80 totems to go up on the inner irng road - once in place I wonder which map will have them on first? Cheers, Stuart ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] London Road Cemetery, Coventry
Thank you; but my user name is Pigsonthewing. The two halves of the cemetery have, in the current rendering, different types of path. It that correct? A. On 30 October 2012 22:07, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr wrote: Hi Andy, I went to the cimetery this afternoon, I completed what bigfatfrog67 (you?) begun. Seems quite well now :) Next step, not that far away : London road allotments ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.39421lon=-1.48697zoom=17layers=M cheers 2012/10/21 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk If any Coventry mappers fancy a project of manageable size, the historic London Road Cemetery: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Road_Cemetery lacks detail (paths, buildings, major monuments). -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- *Florian Lainez* http://twitter.com/overflorian http://www.nouslesgeeks.fr -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] London Road Cemetery, Coventry
If any Coventry mappers fancy a project of manageable size, the historic London Road Cemetery: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Road_Cemetery lacks detail (paths, buildings, major monuments). -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Garmin eTrex 30 - just reduced on amazon
On 5 October 2012 10:34, Peter Rounce pe...@rounce.me.uk wrote: today.. Garmin eTrex 30 Outdoor Handheld GPS Unit £157.49 If anyone on this list buys one, maybe they could write a review, pointing out that people can use it to contribute to OpenStreetMap, the free map... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Gritting updates
Has anyone found (or looked for) any updates to last winter's gritting routes? Do we need to chase up the local authorities concerned? Do we need a new render? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] West Bromwich town centre remodelling
Various features of West Bromwich town centre are being changed or moved: http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2012/10/01/west-bromwich-town-centre-revamp-starts/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Memorial unveiled for three men killed in Birmingham riots
Would someone like to map this, in in Smethwick's Victoria Park: http://www.itv.com/news/central/2012-09-28/memorial-unveiled-for-three-men-killed-in-birmingham-riots/ ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Work opportunity: render interactive maps
A contact, Daniel Cremin, is looking for someone to produce interactive web maps based on OSM data, displaying details of certain local organisations. If you do this kind of work, please feel free to contact him on i...@civicolive.com or @CivicoDaniel -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Resgistered places of worship (inc UIDs, postcodes)
On 11 September 2012 10:56, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: It's certainly an interesting data set but in it's current for it's hard to use. We would need it as a CSV or similar rather than a PDF. I think you missed and is available in spreadsheet format: http://www.brin.ac.uk/news/2011/places-of-worship-in-england-and-wales-1999-2009/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Places and postcodes -- nodes/areas?
On 11 September 2012 14:22, David Fisher djfishe...@gmail.com wrote: People tend to place great importance on living within a certain postcode, and thus we tend to think of them as defining areas, but they don't really Well, Royal Mail produce and supply, or at least used to, maps showing postcode districts, so perhaps someone should tell them that ;-) There's more on the subject, at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_codes_in_the_United_Kingdom -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source
[resending as my original reply was inadvertently off-list] On 31 August 2012 12:12, Andrew Mackenzie a.macken...@bethere.co.uk wrote: there is another approach, which is to download the data for all companies in the UK from Companies House. There may be other (open-) databases which include address-postcode pairs; for example NHS pharmacies, GP surgeries and dentists; police stations; schools; licenced premises (alcohol, gambling, sex shops) restaurants and takeaways assessed for health issues; listed buildings; etc. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine
On 21 August 2012 20:54, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Looking more closely, it is definitely using postcodes for location, so not something to import into OSM. Indeed not; but it could be used in the same manner as the postcode-based list of bike shops which we successfully merged into OSM a couple of years ago, -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Field Boundaries
On 19 August 2012 18:59, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: condition is also something that will change with time. In that case, it might also be worth adding condition:date= -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wikipedia: cataloguing public art
[cross-posted] You might be interested in a new, international, Wikipedia initiative, cataloguing pubic art: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Public_art The Birmingham page, for instance, is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_art_in_Birmingham Please feel free to add objects, upload photos and, as the work progresses, use the pages as check-lists for OSM entries, and as a source for Wikipedia, material, date and artist tags in OSM. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Wikipedia: cataloguing public art
[cross-posted] You might be interested in a new, international, Wikipedia initiative, cataloguing pubic art: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Public_art The Birmingham page, for instance, is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_art_in_Birmingham Please feel free to add objects, upload photos and, as the work progresses, use the pages as check-lists for OSM entries, and as a source for Wikipedia, material, date and artist tags in OSM. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] (Olympics) Gold postbox map - credits missing? add to metadata on tagged postboxes?
[resending to list; sorry, Neil] On 7 August 2012 17:11, Neil Pilgrim osm-talk...@kepier.clara.net wrote: What's the feeling regarding tagging the 'gold' nature of these for 2012? Has there been any indication that they will be repainted red in 2013? If not, I say we tag them. But how? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] FW: Social Meeting this Thursday 2nd Aug
I'll have a go at 3 - Stuart, would you like to join me? On 1 August 2012 16:58, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Will aim for 6pm as well. Happy to take on slice 2 unless anyone else is keen on it. Summary of slices: 1 Andy 2 Rob 3 4 Brian 5 Mike Rob On 1 August 2012 16:46, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I can be there for about 6pm at the Green Man. I agree with Andy that GPS is not really needed- just print off some maps either from walkingpapers.org or export from OSM and annotate them. Notebook and camera also useful. I don't know if the pub has wifi for any editing demos. I shall map slice 4 the main high street. Regards Brian On 1 August 2012 15:45, rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: I would be interested if anyone has used any of the android apps: * OSMtracker * geopaparazzi * osmand * etc.. If yes, are they any good? Rob On , Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Cool J I can bring along a couple of extra Garmins though it’s unlikely that a GPS will be needed as the roads are all in place. Perhaps better to draw in some buildings using Potlatch or JOSM and the BING imagery background and then print off the area for pen annotation either using the export tab on the main OSM webpage (select “Export” then “Map image” and change the format to PDF. I find a scale of 2000 works well) or alternatively print off using Field Papers (http://fieldpapers.org/). If you are uncomfortable with drawing in buildings then let me know and I’ll email you a section of the Industrial Estate which I’ve already propagated. The annotation in that area will be principally collecting the occupant names for all the units. I won’t be able to get out to Coleshill much before 6:30pm. Brian may be able to help if earlier? CheersAndy From: Andrew Mackenzie [mailto:a.macken...@bethere.co.uk] Sent: 01 August 2012 14:00 To: Stuart Harrison Cc: Andy Robinson; Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] FW: Social Meeting this Thursday 2nd Aug hi allI could do with a refresher course too. Brian/ Andy could you bring some of the Garmins? I'll can be there by 6.00pm if anyone could help Stuart me get started. Andrew On 1 Aug 2012, at 13:46, Stuart Harrison wrote: Hi folks, I live in Coleshill, so would be happy to help. I've never mapped for OSM (apart from the odd tweak using Potlatch), but I'm a keen and heavy user. Is there any chance I could tag along with someone who knows what they're doing? Cheers StuartOn Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote:From Mike…. From: Mike Duffy [mailto:mdbg02...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 01 August 2012 12:10 To: Andy Robinson Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Social Meeting this Thursday 2nd Aug Will bite at lower end of slice 5 Miked29 From: Andy Robinson Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:54 PM To: 'Brian Prangle' ; 'talk-gb-westmidlands' Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Social Meeting this Thursday 2nd Aug As its closest to me I’ll hit the Roman Way/Gorsey Lane industrial estate (Area 1). CheersAndy From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] Sent: 31 July 2012 16:41 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Social Meeting this Thursday 2nd Aug Hi everyone A cake is available on the wiki - if you're going to map beforehand please choose a slice and let us know which one you've chosen via this talk list Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags
On 2 July 2012 15:00, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Responding to comments below. Use of railway=abandoned for lines across housing estates is definitely wrong. Some suggest railway=dismantled, some remove them. Leaving aside other issues; these terms are confusing, and seem to cover more than two situations. Once trains stop running lines can go through various stages: * No trains run, but everything else remains as was (possibly railway=disused ?) * The tracks are physically disconnected from the network, at one or both ends, and/ or intermediate junctions * The rails are removed, leaving the sleepers * The sleepers are removed, leaving the ballast * At any of the above stages, ancillary equipment such as signals can be disconnected, or removed. * The route is overgrown and wild, but is still discernible * The route is reused, as, say a footway or cycleway, but is still discernible * The route is built over and is no longer discernible Additionally, sometimes disused lines are interrupted by the demolition of bridges or viaducts; and more than one of the above can be the case in different parts of the same line. At any point (but usually not the last) the railway can be reinstated and trains resume running. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Birmingham Faith Map
I have just discovered that the Birmingham Faith Map: http://www.birminghamfaithmap.org.uk/ was launched last November: http://birminghamnewsroom.com/2011/11/birmingham-faith-map-launched/ It does not appear that the data in the underlying database is availabe openly. My advice when I worked at BCC was that this data set should be made openly available, and added to OSM, rather than a separate site being set up, at a five-figure cost. Ho hum. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] National Memorial Arboretum this Saturday
On 18 June 2012 10:31, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: We have a micro mapping party proposed for this Saturday to the National Memorial Arboretum [1] at Alrewas, Staffs [2]. Our plan is to improve our own detail and get as many of the memorials on OpenStreetMap as possible (there are hundreds!) Sadly, I don't think I can make it due to a prior commitment, but I'd been planning to go there and do some mapping of memorials, as follow-up to an event I was at last weekend: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/World_War_I/World_War_I_Editathon which was part of a larger activity, improving coverage of WWI on Wikipedia in the run-up to the 100th anniversary commemorations. May I urge those of you who can attend to please consider taking and uploading pictures to Wikimedia Commons, to supplement those already available there: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:National_Memorial_Arboretum and including Wikipedia links in OSM, per: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikipedia and its talk page discussion on related articles: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:wikipedia The main English Wikipedia article on the NMA is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Memorial_Arboretum I'm sure you'll find it fascinating place to visit. You my also like to note the adjacent River Tame/ Trent confluence. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] National Memorial Arboretum this Saturday
On 18 June 2012 10:31, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: We have a micro mapping party proposed for this Saturday to the National Memorial Arboretum [1] at Alrewas, Staffs [2]. Our plan is to improve our own detail and get as many of the memorials on OpenStreetMap as possible (there are hundreds!) Sadly, I don't think I can make it due to a prior commitment, but I'd been planning to go there and do some mapping of memorials, as follow-up to an event I was at last weekend: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/World_War_I/World_War_I_Editathon which was part of a larger activity, improving coverage of WWI on Wikipedia in the run-up to the 100th anniversary commemorations. May I urge those of you who can attend to please consider taking and uploading pictures to Wikimedia Commons, to supplement those already available there: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:National_Memorial_Arboretum and including Wikipedia links in OSM, per: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikipedia and its talk page discussion on related articles: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:wikipedia The main English Wikipedia article on the NMA is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Memorial_Arboretum I'm sure you'll find it fascinating place to visit. You my also like to note the adjacent River Tame/ Trent confluence. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping murals mosaics
On 6 June 2012 17:12, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: On 4 June 2012 15:28, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: The nice folk at OpenPlaques have drawn my attention to the London Mural Preservation Society's map: http://londonmuralpreservationsociety.com/ which uses OSM, but with (presumably) their own data overlaid. It occurs to me that we could be mapping murals directly in OSM. We already have the 'artwork' tag, and could use, say, artwork=mural. Thoughts? No reason why not, just effort and the question of whether it's worth it. I imagine they would need a helping hand to download the data via a XAPI server and process it to be used on their web site. At the moment they appear to hardcode the mural locations for the map in a string embedded into the page HTML. As they carry some nice pages with further info for each mural, which couldn't really all be stored in OSM, they'd still need a way of keeping their own data and then linking it to OSM objects, perhaps with their own tag. At which point they might wonder - what's the point? Indeed they might; but then, I was suggesting that we - the OSM community - do this; not the London Mural Preservation Society. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Mapping murals mosaics
The nice folk at OpenPlaques have drawn my attention to the London Mural Preservation Society's map: http://londonmuralpreservationsociety.com/ which uses OSM, but with (presumably) their own data overlaid. It occurs to me that we could be mapping murals directly in OSM. We already have the 'artwork' tag, and could use, say, artwork=mural. Thoughts? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall-ish
I'm sure that if we asked Walsall Council, they'd give us sight of plans or diagrams, in their copyright, which we could work from. I have contacts there, if needed. On 28 May 2012 22:16, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, other way around. They removed the roundabout last year and it’s now a multi filter multi traffic light monster. Could do with some more tracks to clean it up a bit but probably won’t ever look perfect till we have new imagery. Cheers Andy From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] Sent: 28 May 2012 10:09 To: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Walsall-ish I drove through this junction yesterday (heading east I filter to the north to head up towards the A5): http://osm.org/go/euzSxH0r1-- except, as per the Bing imagery, it is now a roundabout. If anyone is in the area (which I won't be for months) it could do with a resurvey. I’ll try and get up-to-date with uploading my gps traces in case yesterday’s is of any help. Ed ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone else had GPS problems today?
Could be that the miltary are conducting some war games. From a previous event: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/04/12/war-games-planes-in-near-miss-over-scotland-following-mix-up-in-communications-86908-23821821/ note final para. On 11 April 2012 22:13, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Had some quite extraordinary problems trying to get a GPS signal this afternoon in the Fisherstreet area, on the Surrey/W Sussex border a few miles SE of Haslemere. Between around 1300 and 1400 BST I could get no signal whatsoever. I lost the signal in a wooded area around 1255 BST and then could not get it back at all, despite being in an open area with most of the sky visible, only the sky low in the west was hidden behind a nearby hill (Blackdown). Turning the device off and on again a couple of times had no effect. Around 1400 I finally got the signal again, ironically when entering a wood, and so retraced my steps. Signal went again. Finally worked around 30 mins later, though GPS reception was rather wobbly all afternoon. Anyone else get any problems today? Maybe the satellites were in an unusual configuration so none were particularly high up for a few hours? The weather was slightly notable with a good number of thunderstorm-type shower clouds dotted around (though no thunder heard) and ironically, later on around 1830BST when one of these was actually overhead (and depositing rain) - and, I was in a wooded area with not much sky visible - I got a good signal! Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Tagging roads with metadata about the people they're named after
My comment on this blog post, about a proposal to build a database of people whom roads are named after, may be of interest: http://janetedavis.posterous.com/gendered-uk-street-maps -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Island House
The much-talked about Island House, in Birmingham's Eastside, is now, controversially, demolished, and someone has tagged it 'building:demolished=yes'. Is that correct? Or should it be building=demolished, or some other tag? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] People wanting to remove the route of the HS2 from openstreetmap
On 26 March 2012 18:43, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Tom. I’ve now added a note on the Facebook page too. All comments relating to OSM have now been deleted from the group, which carries a message saying: DO NOT add members whom you do not know or are not referred by other members unless you are certain who they are… dealing with disputes is not what this group is for. My irony detector has just melted. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Grit map featured in local gov social media case study
Our work on the grit map is featured in: http://static.bdo.uk.com/assets/documents/2012/03/BDO_Local_Government_Team_-_Updating_your_status_social_media_report.pdf (where I'm credited in a footnote as co-founder of MappaMercia; that's not a claim I made). -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Fwd: Event reminder - ON LOCATION: Organizing and using geospatial information
FYI... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Forwarded message -- From: Bob Bater bba...@knowplexity.com Date: Mar 8, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: Event reminder - ON LOCATION: Organizing and using geospatial information To: dc-architect...@jiscmail.ac.uk Places are filling up fast for this afternoon event in London at the end of March. Don't miss out!* * *ISKO UK **and the BCS Location Information Specialist Group (LISG)* *Thursday 29th March (14.00-18.00)* *Wilkes Room - British Computer Society London Office* At this half-day event in Central London, we will hear from experts about the current geospatial information landscape and its challenges, some of the standards and frameworks that have been put into place to ensure interoperability and the potential for linking data. We will also hear how some users of GIS systems have applied them in their own organizations. The event is *free* to ISKO and BCS members and to full-time students. The fee for non-members is just *£40, payable in advance*. Registration opens at *1.45*, immediately following the ISKO UK AGM, and we shall start promptly at 2 p.m. The programme will be followed by a chance to network, with wine and nibbles. The topics and speakers are: - The landscape and challenges of geospatial information in 2012* - **Mike Sanderson**, 1Spatial* * *- INSPIRE and the work of UK Location - *Alex Coley**, Chair of the UK Location Programme Architecture Interoperability Board * - Linking geographic data for research - *Jo Walsh*, *EDINA* ** ** **- The development and application of GIS in health protection - *Matt Bull**, Health Protection Agency* ** **- Organising and using location data in the Environment Agency - *Stefan Carlyle**, Environment Agency** * * *- AddressBase – developing a unique national address gazetteer - *Carsten Rönsdorf and Nick Turner**,* *Ordnance Survey* You will find the full programme and booking details via the ISKO UK sitehttp://www.iskouk.org/events/location_march2012.htm. Please pass this invitation on to any colleagues who may be interested. We hope to see you there. Apologies for cross-posting. ISKO is a not-for-profit scientific/professional association with the objective of promoting research and communication in the domain of knowledge organization, within the broad field of information science and related disciplines. Our UK emphasis is to build bridges between the research and practitioner communities, with the UK Chapter attracting lively and steadily growing audiences to its afternoon meetings. You can see past and future events at http://www.iskouk.org/events.htm , most with MP3 recordings. BCS, the Chartered Institute for IT, champions the global IT profession and the interests of individuals engaged in that profession for the benefit of all. Among its many specialist groups is the Location Information SG enabling BCS members to be well informed and understand the issues and best practices associated with geospatial technology, which is becoming increasingly visible to business and the public. ** ** ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Turner's Island, Hickling Broad, Norfolk
Does anyone know the location of Turner's Island, Hickling Broad, Norfolk, referred to in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Turner_(photographer)? Another source has it in the south-east of Hickling Broad, next to Rush Hill, still known by local fishermen as Turner Island as late as the 1960s. I'd like to add it to the map and include its coordinates in the Wikipedia article. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] FOI request for Birmingham Interconnect
Is this on WhatDoTheyKnow? If so what's the URL, please? If not, I suggest posting to to the wiki, so we can refer other people to it. I'd also suggest a follow-up query asking for the specific cost of the aerial photography licence fee On 26 January 2012 14:42, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Here is the full response from Birmingham City Council. Let me know what you want us to do with the information now that we have it. Regards Brian Dear Mr Prangle FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST – BIRMINGHAM INTERCONNECT MAPPING PROJECT WITH BLUESKY AERIAL IMAGERY Further to your email requesting further information. Response 1. How much is the project cost for the map which is going to be drawn from the aerial imagery? The design and development of the royalty free map is one of several components the design consultants are commission to deliver. As previously stated Marketing Birmingham is managing the design contract for this project and the City Council is not financially contributing to this aspect, other than purchasing the aerial photography licence fee. Marketing Birmingham has informed me that the fee is £86,765 for the complete map design (identify, typography, cartography, pictograms, etc) and content development work. 2. What is the time scale for delivery of this map? The master map will be delivered to the project partners in late January 2012. The map cuts will then be incorporated into the Wayfinding and Centro products for installation during May – October 2012. Specific issues relating to licensing and onward design management are being discussed amongst the partners and Centro will manage the map assets in the future. 3. What is the functional (as opposed to the technical) specification? There is no functional specification, per se. Not in the way I believe you are referring to. The primary function is to aid Wayfinding for pedestrians in Birmingham City Centre. The mapping is being developed for on street static display. Downloads may be available via QR Code. The suite of master base maps could, in due course, be re-purposed for print and online use. Interactive screen based products are also being considered at key destinations. The style of the maps will be topographically detailed showing features to aid pedestrian orientation and movement and it will contain named areas, destinations and attractions together with information on public transport and key services and facilities. Much of the design development has been an iterative process with the project partners and stakeholders, especially in respect to content and map generation. For example, the map scale has changed since the project start and the master map for the City Centre has been rendered at a scale of 1:1000 and 1:4000 for on street display. Zoomable mapping may be considered for online development. The partner’s intention is to ensure that the Consultant’s work provides data and resources, which are generated and can be managed in an open and future proof manor. Several projects, products and services will eventually be made possible by the data and resources, which are at the core of this system. The information captured in the map content collation process will be recorded digitally and the Consultant will develop an information content system for Wayfinding products and services, comprising: 1. A Microsoft Excel formatted spreadsheet, formatted to reflect the information asset categories, content hierarchies and specification data related to their function, original source, verification and approval status and; 2. A GIS compatible drawing application to record and spatially organise the asset content. This will provide a universally transferable way of capturing the asset data to be shared with stakeholders and partners. The partners see this as an interim step, as a precursor to determining the most efficient and accessible format to manage and maintain the ongoing integrated multi-modal data streams that will be managed as part of Centro’s “Integrated Transport Information Programme” and their “Information Knowledge Base” system that will form the data engine for all future information products and services provided in the West Midlands. If you require any further information or are not happy with our response please do not hesitate to contact a member of our team on 0121 303 3912 Yours sincerely Dean Robinson Freedom of Information and Data Protection Officer ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http
[Talk-GB] Mapping Monmouth and working with Monmouthpedia
Our friends at at Wikipedia are planning a blitz on articles relating to the town of Monmouth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/MonmouthpediA which is garnering a lot of publicity: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-16359364 and will involve the deployment of thousands of QRpedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QRpedia QR codes around the town;.and the creation if many new articles. It would be good if we could support this initiative by ensuring that our mapping of Monmouth is as complete and up-to-date as possible, and that features which are the subject of articles are tagged as such, per: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia There'll also be a drive to photograph all the notable buildings and other features in Monmouth and upload the images to Wikimedia Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Monmouth and would be good to also get any and all commemorative (blue) plaques in Monmouth photographed and onto OpenPlaques: http://openplaques.org/places/gb/areas/monmouth and in our map. Do we have any Monmouth mappers who would like to be involved? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Embedding the gritting (or another special) map
A friend and hyperlocal blogger has asked how to embed the gritting map on his blog. I've seen http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Deploying_your_own_Slippy_Map, but that seems to be for generic OSM; what about the gritting map, or allotments, or the booze map? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 18 November 2011 12:39, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: Also I haven't checked off licences - not sure what to search for? There has been a little discussion on the talk page about this. I think Andy is mainly interested in specialist shops (shop=alcohol) and noting whether they sell real ale, either draught or bottled. As a first punt I suggested overloading real_ale (real_beer), with 'draught' and 'bottled' values. Did we agree on these tags? i found a fantastic off-licence in Leominster the other day, which sells ale on draught: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1517032398 and tagged it: real_beer = draught; bottles shop = alcohol but it's not rendering. It also sells bottled real cider and perry, BTW. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 27 November 2011 19:46, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 November 2011 12:07, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: Nobody disagreed. There haven't been any other suggestions, or the objections I expected to the use of real_beer. Go on then, I'll disagree - why do we need a new key called real_beer (currently 1 use in the database) when there is an existing key called real_ale with 878 entries in the database. It could be that I am not a beer-buff and don't appreciate the distinction, but they are synonymous to my simple mind, so I would have just gone with real_ale, which is a more common term as far as I am aware. Not all beers are ales. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 27 November 2011 20:54, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: Where I was coming from is that I think that 'real-stuff=yes' is useful as it distinguishes the supplier of 'craft' products from 'industrial' ones. The problem is that there are lots of different types of stuff - ale, beer, cider, perry - I am sure there are lots more. Having a separate key for each one seems a bit over the top, because at one level a user may just want to know if a place just sells Carlsberg and John Smiths, or something more interesting. Those with more advanced pallets than I may well then be interested if it the interesting thing is ale, beer, fancy Belgian lager things, German wheat beer, hand crushed apple cider etc. etc. Therefore I would prefer to see a more generic type of 'real-stuff' key used which can be 'yes' or 'ale|beer|.', depending on how keen the mapper is feeling. Fair point, but there's a difference between real stuff in bottles and real stuff on draught. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Elan Aqueduct - visible features not rendering
On 17 November 2011 16:06, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Andy Mabbett [mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk] wrote: Sent: 17 November 2011 13:22 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Elan Aqueduct - visible features not rendering Visible parts of the Elan Aqueduct, such as that photographed at: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Elan_Aqueduct_Crossing_- _geograph.org.uk_-_1708280.jpg which is at: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.368915lon=- 2.581569zoom=15layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/45084853 and tagged: layer=1 bridge=yes man_made=pipeline type=water source=npe name=Elan Aqueduct are not rendering on the map. Should they be taged as building=yes, or with some other value? Or do we need to raise a bug to get bridges which are on pipelines rendered? It's not a building. I'd personally tag it as bridge=aqueduct, cos that's what it is. Fair enough. Is there a method (pref in JOSM) to bulk rename (or to download) anything tagged bridge=yes and with Elan in the name? As for rendering, well that's a different matter. Possibly a feature request rather than a bug if its not rendering. OK. I've looked, but can't find where to do that. Can you give me a URL, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] The Belfry
Having visited The Belfry http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.55425lon=-1.73329zoom=17layers=M on Sunday (for a meal - I haven't taken up golf!) and had a look around, and obtained a copy of their not-to-scale site plan, I've added a lot of features to the map. I'd welcome anyone correcting any mistakes I've made, but please let me know, so I can learn from them. One issue is that there are three buildings, made up of a pair of octagons each, haring one name and set of notes. I've added those to a relation - is that the right method? Also, and I haven't yet tried to map this, there are three separate golf courses - The Brabazon, The PGA National and The Derby - on the site; there is no actual course called The Belfry, that's the name of both the whole complex, and the central hotel. I can certainly recommend the hotel's Sunday carvery ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Commemorative trees
I've started a discussion on tagging commemorative trees, which may be relevant for our work on memorials, at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:natural%3Dtree#Commemorative_trees -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Commemorative trees
I've started a discussion on tagging commemorative trees, which may be relevant for our work on memorials, at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:natural%3Dtree#Commemorative_trees -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 18 November 2011 12:39, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: shop=alcohol That would certainly distinguish from branches of Tesco et al. I suggested overloading real_ale (real_beer), with 'draught' and 'bottled' values Good idea, but we might also want to include specialist wine spirit purveyors. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 18 November 2011 19:59, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: If we include all off licences then we're going to have to include all pubs and bars and the map is going to get seriously crowded. I specifically advised against that when I made the original proposal. Should we tag off-licences that sell real ale as realale=yes and if we extend this to specialist wine merchants and whisky shops then perhaps we should have alcohol=specialist_reseller as an extra tag to shop=alcohol That's what I'd like us to do; but the issue is how to define the cut-off, in a verifiable manner. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 17 November 2011 19:59, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: The main list of tags that I will use for BrewMap now are: Could the list of specialist tags go on a sub-page of the wiki page? My question is - have I missed any that I should include for the BrewMap? Do we have any (specialist) off-licences, distilleries, wineries or vineyards, yet? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 17 November 2011 21:48, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: Well, someone has been busy - last time I looked there was one distillery mapped now we have: 22 distilleries 1 winery 0 cider or perry As I head up to bed, I have one word to say to you all: mead. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Microbreweries in Birmingham?
We have two pubs in Witton, each tagged as microbreweries: The Yew Tree: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/81601344 The Cap n Gown: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/82106192 I don't think either are; but thought it best to ask here before de-tagging them as such, in case I'm mistaken. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
Aston Manor Brewery in Birmingham no longer makes ales; just cider, on an industrial scale - yet retains the word Brewery in its name. :-( On 15 November 2011 15:40, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Just dome some armchair mapping in Hereford where the HP Bulmer site is a massive industrial complex so I don't think ciderhouse or press or mill is somehow appropriate so I've labelled it industrial=brewery for the meantime. Perhaps we should also have industrial=cider? The Bulmers site in tagQueries which is in Ireland will probably be the same (and possibly Magners - but that might come out of the Bulmers Irish site) Regards Brian On 15 November 2011 14:07, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Steve Doerr wrote: The Oxford English Dictionary got it wrong then: *cider-house* n. a building in which cider is made. Far be it for me to criticise the august OED (though I'm more of a Chambers man), but yes, it did. http://www.thecoronationtap.com/ - Clifton's original, and still it's only, ciderhouse http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_house - A Cider House is like a pub that serves only cider. They used to be quite common, but there are only a handful left. Often they were little more than a room in a farmhouse or cottage, selling cider for consumption on the premises. http://www.bristolciderhouse.co.uk/ and perhaps the definitive description, by the late Paul Gunningham at http://www.somersetmade.co.uk/oldscrump/ciderhouses-ciderbar.php : Ye Olde Cider Bar in Newton Abbot, Devon, England is a very special place for scrumpy users; special because it is a surviving example of a rarity whose numbers have dwindled over the centuries: the cider house. As the name implies, this is a bar that sells cider to the public, but a cider house is not a pub - maybe most (if not all) pubs these days sell some form of cider (even though most only sell the inferior keg variety), but a cider house definitely does not sell any beer! Once upon a time there was a large number of alehouses in England, selling only ale (beer) to the public, and similarly there were many cider houses dispensing cider to their thirsty patrons. Over the years, alehouses became public houses selling a wider range of drinks than just beer - wines and spirits included. Meanwhile, many former cider houses became pubs, with the result that today we expect our pubs to sell just about any form of alcoholic drink, as well as soft drinks. At the last count, there were only four surviving cider houses in England - in the whole of Britain, for that matter. One of these extremely rare and special places is this cider house in Devon - Ye Olde Cider Bar in the market town of Newton Abbot on the scenic River Teign, between historic Exeter and the tourist resort of Torquay. and so on. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Drinking-Map-of-UK-tp6945690p6996374.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting routes
I've asked my contacts there to investigate. On 14 November 2011 15:20, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: I note that BCC have removed the gritting map link from their winter maintenance page. Cheers Andy From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2011 11:53 To: 'Brian Prangle'; 'Christoph Böhme' Cc: 'talk-gb-westmidlands' Subject: RE: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting routes Brian, Re Coventry, yes it would be nice to see some enthusiasm from there. Maybe we should prod a few that are active currently? Re Dudley, I’ll see if I can get the contact details of the appropriate person. Re Sandwell, I’m in contact. Cheers Andy From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2011 11:12 To: Christoph Böhme Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting routes Hi Christoph Thanks for this - We have Coventry data but can't get much enthusiasm from the Coventry mappers to complete this. We're still to get Dudley - who wants to approach them? Sandwell routes seem to appear at a different zoom level to the rest? Do we just have to wait for the rendering engine to catch up? Andy Mabbett - I think we just assume that everyone realises that the motorways get gritted - if you start adding them where do you finish? the UK motorway network is huge! Other major routes also gritted by the HA? Do you want to volunteer? ;-). Andy R - I think your approach to Sandwell is the the best- sit down around the map and correct it. Who's informing our contact at Sandwell about progress? Regards Brian 2011/11/13 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net Hi all I've updated the gritting map [1]. The data was retrieved from the overpass api and is hopefully up to date. The map now covers the area between 2.275 and 1.378 west and 52.314 and 52.679 north. Let me know if there are areas which should have gritting routes but don't appear on the map. I wasn't following the progress closely enough to remember which councils made their data available already and what has been added to the map yet. For instance, I thought the gritting routes in Coventry were already in the database. Best Christoph [1] http://mappa-mercia.org/gritting-map.shtml Am 10.11.2011 12:36, schrieb Brian Prangle: Hi everyone We're making great progress with over half the routes now completed. Christoph will be re-rendering the gritting map this weekend so it would be good to see if we could complete this at the same time. There are still two routes unallocated - so grit your teeth and choose one ;-) It's also a good opportunity to do some tidying up of the road alignments and anything else you see along the route Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 14 November 2011 13:32, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: Several old breweries have Wikipedia articles; it would be good, please, if you could include those links, where present, in your pop-up. Is there a tag used for wikipedia articles? Yes: http://wiki./openstreetmap.org/wiki/tag:wikipedia In general, please add any suggestions for other tags to be used to the wiki page and I will try to get them all before I re-import the database. Already done. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 14 November 2011 16:20, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 14 November 2011 13:32, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: Several old breweries have Wikipedia articles; it would be good, please, if you could include those links, where present, in your pop-up. Is there a tag used for wikipedia articles? Yes: http://wiki./openstreetmap.org/wiki/tag:wikipedia Ack. that should be http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia - sorry. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 13 November 2011 22:46, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: UK BrewMap rendering, using the craft=brewery | industry=brewery | microbrewery=yes scheme. A friend has just sent me a link to this site: http://www.quaffale.org.uk/ one of the most up to date lists of UK based Real Ale Breweries available on the Internet. which should be a useful resource. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
Such a collection of records would, presumably, be copyright. On 4 November 2011 10:14, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: It might be a bit over the top, but for pubs that make the CAMRA Good Beer Guide (or for some branches their local guide) lots of details have to be collected. See for example the key on this example page: http://www.tendringcamra.org.uk/pubdetails.html?uid=10856 (there is an iframe or something to pull the middle bit from the Essex CAMRA Pubs database). Things like nearest bus route and nearest station don’t need surveying of course, assuming these are already mapped in OSM. The above pub may not have been the best example. Opening hours and Food hours often aren’t the same (opening_hours:food=?) – see for example http://www.tendringcamra.org.uk/pubdetails.html?uid=10940 CAMRA members can visit http://www.hertsale.org.uk/essex/GetPubsByLocation.php and log in using their national login to see still more details which are generally hidden. Thing such as lat/lon, owner, tied or not, licensee, licensing area, Good Beer Guide years, who did the survey (not logged in you only see survey date), and some remarks which are usually used to store news about pubs closing, reopening, changing hands, poor service, or whatever. These regional database sites are due to feed into a national database, but I’ve not heard how that is progressing. Ed From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 November 2011 08:58 To: Andy Robinson Cc: talk...@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK Hi everyone Thanks to everyone who made suggestions. If we can build on Graham's initial efforts I think we can get a great map and do some some interesting surveying with an incentive to get people out mapping! As a first pass on a tagging scheme can I suggest we follow the wiki page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brewery for showing which beers are on sale at pubs ( i.e NOT guest beers) and that we encourage the use of the extra tags suggested on the wiki page for pubshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpub We can also make us of the microbrewey tag described on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:microbrewery%3Dyes for those places that only sell their beer on their own premises. Using that as a basis we could tag building=distillery building=brewery building=cider_press building=perry_press (that should remove any spurious entries like Brewery Apartments if we just do a search on names) For specialist off-licences which sell real ale we could use the realale tag from the pub wiki page Some breweries don't have visiting facilities so we need a tag to describe this. Any suggestions? Opening hours could do it maybe? To cover all these establishments should we have an industry sector tag industry=alcohol or commercial=alcohol? Perhaps alcoholic_beverage would be better to distinguish it from industrial alcohol? How to distinguish real ale from industrial mass market breweries? How to list awards e.g CAMRA Pub of the Year 2010 Once we can get a consensus I can get a wiki page up within the UK projects section Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag marine lights on posts
On 7 November 2011 18:28, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: These are warning beacons to mark the line of reefs. The appropriate OpenSeaMap tagging would be: seamark:type=beacon_special_purpose seamark:beacon_special_purpose:category=artificial_reef seamark:special_purpose_beacon:shape=pile seamark:light:colour=whatever the colour of the light is seamark:light:character=whatever the flashing pattern is seamark:topmark:shape=if it has a topmark, the shape seamark:topmark:colour=if it has a topmark, the colour NB: these tags will only be rendered on OpenSeaMap (an overlay to the StreetMap). man_made=beacon would be appropriate for the StreetMap, although I don't know whether this tag is rendered. Thank you. I've used some of those, but I only saw them during daytime, so can't comment on the colour or pattern of the lights. I'd tagged what you all reefs as islands; I've now added reef as well. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting Routes
Possibly - perhaps one doing the inside and one the outside lanes? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Nov 5, 2011 10:18 PM, Mike Duffy mdbg02...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Decided to try my hand at gritting routes, picked route 3. Everything going(more or less smoothly until I arrived at Black Country New Road, and found I was overlaying Black Adders route 2 data. Is this sort of duplication normal? Miked29 -Original Message- From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk] Sent: 31 October 2011 17:41 To: Brian Prangle Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell Gritting Routes I've now recieved eight driver routes for Sandwell MBC's gritting routes, uploaded them to Google Docs, and posted a link to them, from the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Sandwell_Gritting On 17 October 2011 16:34, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: There is now a section on Sandwell's gritting routes on the mappamercia wiki page where you can sign up to complete a route, with weblinks to PDF files describing the various routes. It's good fun and also an opportunity to visit areas that haven't been touched for some time allowing us to realign roads with bing aerial imagery and relpace node POIs with building POIs etc -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Tagging references to web-enabled databases (war memorials others)
As I've just mentioned in another thread, the UK National Inventory of War Memorials http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/, based at the Imperial War Museum, is creating a comprehensive archive of all war memorials in the United Kingdom. They have records for over 60,000 of the estimated 100,000 war memorials in the UK. These range from window and brass plaques to church organs, obelisks an crosses, and buildings. An example of the latter is the entry for Birmingham's Hall of Memory: http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/show/conMemorial.2049. How should I tag that? Generally speaking, is it best to use the full URL; UKNIWM_URL = http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/show/conMemorial.2049 or the unique ID part: UKNIWM_ID = 2049 and why? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Allotments, open data OpenStreetMap
On 31 October 2011 23:31, Andrew Mackenzie a.macken...@bethere.co.uk wrote: There are some tagging questions: allotments are called community gardens in Europe and how should prospective growing spaces be tagged? I'm hopeful that MappaMercia people will be interested. Maybe we could discuss at Thursday meet? I'm interested - I mapped many of the (North) Birmingham allotments a few months ago - but won't be there on Thursday. Here's one example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/22652548 Note that I plotted the toilet block separately, but didn't tag the site as toilets=yes - I'm now wondering whether that would have been useful also? Also not the short BCC URL - http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/walsall-road-allotments - which, sadly, only exist for those I mapped while working at BCC. I did request that they complete the set after I left, but no joy. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] Blog post: Why we need an open-source geocoding alternative to Google (discusses Nominatim)
Someone better qualified than I might like to comment on the OSM section of: http://petewarden.typepad.com/searchbrowser/2011/10/what-can-you-use-for-geocoding-instead-of-google-maps.html -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
Jon Bounds (@bounder on Twitter) used OSM to render a map of all the pubs in Birmingham - nothing else, just the pub names. There were obvious gaps in Bournville and Edgbaston. It was shown in an art exhibition he curated, at the newly re-opened MAC. Prints were also available to buy. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Oct 30, 2011 3:15 PM, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Having just been at the CAMRA Birmingham Beer Festival and seen the huge number of breweries from across the UK Got me thinking - is there any appetite for a project similar to the baseball project http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Big_baseball_project_2011 in getting all the breweries mapped and rendered maybe as OpenBrewMap. Surveying could be fun! Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
[re-ending this to the correct list; sorry!] On 30 October 2011 15:15, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Having just been at the CAMRA Birmingham Beer Festival and seen the huge number of breweries from across the UK Got me thinking - is there any appetite for a project similar to the baseball project http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Big_baseball_project_2011 in getting all the breweries mapped and rendered maybe as OpenBrewMap. Jon Bounds (@bounder on Twitter) used OSM to render a map of all the pubs in Birmingham - nothing else, just the pub names. There were obvious gaps in Bournville and Edgbaston. It was shown in an art exhibition he curated, at the newly re-opened MAC. Prints were also available to buy. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Drinking Map of UK
On 30 October 2011 20:13, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: For tagging I suggest we just use building=brewery and only render for ways (i.e ignore nodes). Later on we might be able create relations consisting of a brewery and the pubs where it has its beers We also might like to consider different colours to distinguish industrial mass market beers from real ale beers. Also, with permission, to highlight winners of various awards. A tag for pubs; GoodBeerGuide:year=2010 (being the most recent entry)? What about specialist off-licences? And while we're at it should we make it a proper drinkers' map and include all the highland distilleries, the one or two vineyards in the South and what do you call places where they make cider/perry? Yes! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Anotehr n development: Gerge Road, Edrington
I noticed at the weekend (but was driving with passengers, so couldn't stop), that the former MEB site on George Road, Erdington: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.51533lon=-1.86205zoom=16layers=M has been developed and now contains new side-roads with residential premises. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Feedback on first unassisted changes
On 25 October 2011 13:40, Philip John p...@philipjohn.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've just uploaded a bunch of changes to expand on some I made with Andy Mabbett's assistance (thanks Andy) many moons ago. *falls off chair* They are all based on the development at 52.6799280, -1.8239728 and as this is the first time I've performed any edits I'd appreciate any feedback you have (if you have time to look over them). Looks good to me. If I'm on the right track I have a couple of GPS traces to add on too. JFDI! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] New datasets being released by the DfT
On 25 October 2011 12:11, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: Is anyone looking at the car parks data in a similar method to the cycle data as mentioned in the cyclestreets blog post? I've downloaded it, but I'm guessing it needs something to parse it and reproject it. Not that I'm aware of. From the ones I've seen so far, the geocoding isn't exactly great for them, so I suspect they've been geocoded using the address or postcode. Thankfully the cycling data is a lot more professional than that, and thankfully we won't need to unpick the GML that it comes in! UIDs, anyone? NLPG? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Anotehr n development: Gerge Road, Edrington
On 25 October 2011 17:10, Nick Verdegem digital.dia...@gmail.com wrote: I work in George Road and as such go past every weekday. Sorry, I thought the new development had been done - I'll pop out and get some traces later in the week and get the map updated. Thank you. I managed to get down there today. I've added the roads and some infrastructure; I also picked up a sales brochure showing the planned layout, and took notes of the few house numbers already allocated, some of which I'll add later tonight or tomorrow. It's still only half built; with occupied houses nearer George Road and holes in the ground at the far end. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Anotehr n development: Gerge Road, Edrington
On 25 October 2011 17:57, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 25 October 2011 17:10, Nick Verdegem digital.dia...@gmail.com wrote: I work in George Road and as such go past every weekday. Sorry, I thought the new development had been done - I'll pop out and get some traces later in the week and get the map updated. Thank you. I managed to get down there today. I've added the roads and some infrastructure; I also picked up a sales brochure showing the planned layout, and took notes of the few house numbers already allocated, some of which I'll add later tonight or tomorrow. It's still only half built; with occupied houses nearer George Road and holes in the ground at the far end. OK, done for now. The size and relative arrangement of the buildings is approximate There's something very odd with the numbering between 15 and 27 Lake View Drive (the houses fronting George Road), if someone can check that. The stream in the adjacent cutting also needs further survey - where does it rise, and end? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Locomotive on a plinth
Can anyone suggest a better way to tag this locomotive, on a plinth? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1479037681 (I'm currently researching its origin and ID). -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Hockley Brook: relation
I've just added some sections of Hockley Brook: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1808084 as straight lines, tagged as pipes, with level -2, where it disappears underground. Is there a better way to tag such things? I'm working backwards (upstream) from its confluence with the Tame at Spaghetti Junction, so if anyone knows its route west of what I've done so far, please feel free to chip in. I've also made a relation for it; the first time I've ever done one, so please feel free to make constructive criticism. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Hockley Brook: relation
On 24 October 2011 17:17, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting problem - in some cases I use tunnel=yes and layer=-1 where it's a short section and likely to be straight. Where it's a longer underground section I just tag waterway= stream:underground ( or something similar) so that the data is there but there's no render. Two reasons - stopping clutter on the rendered map and also we can't be sure of the route OK, thank you. Underground sections - including a long line from Hockley Flyover to Aston, with a single bend in the middle - now tagged waterway= stream:underground and manmade:pipe removed. I suppose we could trace the route from OOC maps, but who knows whether its alignment remains unchanged? I also chanegd the above-ground sections from waterway:drain to waterway:stream. Relation - too much work for a dubious return - a name tag on each visible(rendered)section works just as well OK, that's gone. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockley_Brook which I just created. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-GB] How to tag Police Memorial Trust (and similar) memorials
I recently mapped a couple of Police Memorial Trust memorials, for example: http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Police_Memorial_Trust/PMT_Local_Memorials/PMT-Swindells-2004/PMT-Swindells-2004.htm http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.511667lon=-1.866628zoom=18layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1478159796 with Tag:historic=memorial. I included the text on each memorial, tagged text. Would that be better tagged inscription, or with some other tag? How should I tag the fact that a memorial was erected by the Police Memorial Trust? The documentation of Tag:historic=memorial http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:historic%3Dmemorial is silent on these matters. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] New public square in Kings Heath
;-) Thanks for the update. On 18 October 2011 13:36, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops - walked over the public art - it's set in mosaic in the ground - a bit underwhelming for my taste which is why I probably didn't register it. Regards Brian On 15 October 2011 22:58, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: A new square opened in Kings Heath this week: http://www.aboutmyarea.co.uk/West-Midlands/Birmingham/B14/News/Local-News/208216-The-new-face-of-Kings-Heath and has a lot of public art: http://www.aboutmyarea.co.uk/West-Midlands/Birmingham/B14/News/Local-News/208217-A-maze-ing-New-Kings-Heath-square-overflows-with-symbolic-public-art I /think/ the location is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.43275lon=-1.89347zoom=17layers=M is anyone local, and able to survey it? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell gritting routes
At last! http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/downloads/download/1046/gritting_routes -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell gritting routes
Better still, I'm promised Birmingham's grit bin locations will be on their website later today, in CSV format. On 17 October 2011 10:58, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Well done Andy - I'll make start this week - it'll make a nice change form tracing buildings. I'll get a wiki page set up so other people can assist and identify routes to add. Regards Brian On 17 October 2011 10:35, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: At last! http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/downloads/download/1046/gritting_routes -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Sandwell gritting routes
@SandwellCouncil now say The maps include our priority one and priority two roads - but we treat them the same, so don't separate them on our maps! On 17 October 2011 11:10, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: Turns out (ongoing conversation on Twitter) that these maps are not a complete route list, but what we might effectively call priority 1. @sandwellCouncil just said Depending on weather, we extend it to sideroads sometimes, but these are the main routes and they don't vary On 17 October 2011 10:58, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Well done Andy - I'll make start this week - it'll make a nice change form tracing buildings. I'll get a wiki page set up so other people can assist and identify routes to add. Regards Brian On 17 October 2011 10:35, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: At last! http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/downloads/download/1046/gritting_routes -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
