Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs PhaseOut: help needed, Mapping party
Just a small update, posted on my blog about the progress: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary I thought OSB wasn't allowing new bug reports? There seem to be a few from Géovélo, such as http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=19lat=47.12282lon=-1.63 087layers=B0T opened within the last hour (or 2 minutes in the future, so I'm guessing the time shown is European rather than GMT) Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs PhaseOut: help needed, Mapping party
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 12.01.2014, 10:33 + schrieb Ed Loach: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary I thought OSB wasn't allowing new bug reports? There seem to be a few from Géovélo, such as http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?zoom=19lat=47.12282lon=-1.63 087layers=B0T opened within the last hour (or 2 minutes in the future, so I'm guessing the time shown is European rather than GMT) The API is still open. Details about tools still using OSB see the second column in: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs#Tools_for_Using_and_Exporting_Data Regards Werner ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs PhaseOut: help needed, Mapping party
Just a small update, posted on my blog about the progress: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary Am Montag, den 23.12.2013, 12:18 +0100 schrieb Werner Hoch: [1] http://www.h-renrew.de/h/osm/osmchecks/09_osb_phaseout/ [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/Phase_Out Regards Werner (werner2101) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
another update ... Am Sonntag, den 03.11.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Werner Hoch: Am Montag, den 28.10.2013, 23:42 +0100 schrieb Werner Hoch: Currently there are about 41000 open bugs in the OSB database. dropped to 39500 and is decreasing with a good rate, thanks to all. dropped now below 35500 bugs. I've closed, fixed or moved the remaining bugs in South America yesterday. see [4] for details. In North/Middle America only 4 countries remaining: US: 676 CA: 515 HT: 625 DO: 84 In the east it would be cool if someone could review and fix the bugs remaining in JP: 59 TW: 26 CN: 18 Review of that bugs isn't that easy ;-). Even not with google translate. I've published the tool now, that I've written on the phase out pages [4][5]. There are still some wiki pages that use OSB: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Af:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Id:Halaman Utama https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:FAQ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Si:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sr:Main Page If you speek one of the language, can you update the wiki page, please? Regards Werner [1]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs#Tools_for_Using_and_Exporting_Data [3]http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary/20213 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary/20268 [4]http://www.h-renrew.de/h/osm/osmchecks/09_osb_phaseout/ [5]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/Phase_Out ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
Just a small update. Am Montag, den 28.10.2013, 23:42 +0100 schrieb Werner Hoch: Currently there are about 41000 open bugs in the OSB database. dropped to 39500 and is decreasing with a good rate, thanks to all. I think the best strategy is to fix as many open bugs as possible and close all bugs that are no longer valid. In about two month, make a mapping party and review the remaining bugs and move good bug reports to OSN. For some tasks I need some help: 1. Please fix as many bugs as possible. (all mappers, especially local) 2. Collect more programs and websites that are creating OSBs [2] .. we found some more web pages. Thanks to the contributors 3. update Wiki main pages to use OSN instead of OSB: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Af:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fi:Main Page done, thanks https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fi:WikiProject Finland done, thanks https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Id:Halaman Utama https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ko:첫 페이지 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:FAQ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Si:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sr:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Th:Main Page done, thanks https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Uk:Main Page done, thanks If you speek one of the language, can you change the wiki page, please? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main page beta https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main Page/test https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portals beta replaced OSB with Notes, too. Any comment and help is welcome Thanks and regards Werner (werner2101) [1]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs#Tools_for_Using_and_Exporting_Data [3]http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary/20213 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary/20268 [4]http://www.h-renrew.de/h/osm/osmchecks/09_osb_phaseout/ [5]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/Phase_Out ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
Hi, 1. Please fix as many bugs as possible. (all mappers, especially local) That would be easy if the website were working properly. Evertime I click a bug on the map, I cannot close the bubble again and have to reload the page, scroll and zoom to the destination area again, and only then can open the next bug. I am using Iceweasel (Firefox) 25.0 on Debian. -nik -- Wer den Grünkohl nicht ehrt, ist der Mettwurst nicht wert! PGP-Fingerprint: 3C9D 54A4 7575 C026 FB17 FD26 B79A 3C16 A0C4 F296 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
1. Please fix as many bugs as possible. (all mappers, especially local) That would be easy if the website were working properly. Evertime I click a bug on the map, I cannot close the bubble again and have to reload the page, scroll and zoom to the destination area again, and only then can open the next bug. I am using Iceweasel (Firefox) 25.0 on Debian. Hmm, http://osmbugs.org/ works ok. That kind of solves the problem; however, the main websit at http://openstreetbugs.shokokeks.org is broken. -nik -- Wer den Grünkohl nicht ehrt, ist der Mettwurst nicht wert! PGP-Fingerprint: 3C9D 54A4 7575 C026 FB17 FD26 B79A 3C16 A0C4 F296 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
Den 03-11-2013 12:58, Dominik George skrev: 1. Please fix as many bugs as possible. (all mappers, especially local) That would be easy if the website were working properly. Evertime I click a bug on the map, I cannot close the bubble again and have to reload the page, scroll and zoom to the destination area again, and only then can open the next bug. I am using Iceweasel (Firefox) 25.0 on Debian. Hmm, http://osmbugs.org/ works ok. That kind of solves the problem; however, the main websit at http://openstreetbugs.shokokeks.org is broken. -nik When i look at http://osmbugs.org/ is see several bugs which I have commented on via the notes feature on the http://www.openstreetmap.org site. So I dont think the original request In about two month, make a mapping party and review the remaining bugs and move good bug reports to OSN. is concerning the http://osmbugs.org/ site Carsten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
Am Sonntag, den 03.11.2013, 13:37 +0100 schrieb Carsten Nielsen: When i look at http://osmbugs.org/ is see several bugs which I have commented on via the notes feature on the http://www.openstreetmap.org site. So I dont think the original request In about two month, make a mapping party and review the remaining bugs and move good bug reports to OSN. is concerning the http://osmbugs.org/ site The page http://osmbugs.org/ can display OpenStreetBugs and Notes. This page has no own database of bugs. The OpenStreetBugs are located in a database at http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/. You can disable the display of Notes on http://osmbugs.org/ with the layers. With In about two month... I meant all bugs that are in the http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/ no matter which interface you're using to create, comment, close them. List of Interfaces, see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openstreetbug#Tools_for_Using_and_Exporting_Data Regards Werner ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
On 03/11/2013, Dominik George n...@naturalnet.de wrote: That would be easy if the website were working properly. Evertime I click a bug on the map, I cannot close the bubble again and have to reload the page, scroll and zoom to the destination area again, and only then can open the next bug. I find the website a bit finnicky too, but clicking on the actual bug icon (not the bubble and not a different bug's icon. The actual icon that you originally used to open the bubble) works for me. Then of course, you can use any of the tools mentioned on the wiki, the shocokegs website is just one way to edit OSB. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
I fixed Russian and Ukrainian pages and also changed https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Quick_contact template which was pointing to OSB too. Eugene On 29 October 2013 00:42, Werner Hoch werner...@gmx.de wrote: Hi all, the Notes features is active since April now. Many users have started creating Notes (OSN) instead of OpenStreetBug (OSB) entries. I'm currently trying to push the phase out of OSB with various methods: * Updating the wiki with deprecation notices of OSB [1] * Collecting infomations about programs that are still using OSB [2] * Wrote a blog entry to sketch the phase out [3] * created stats about the distribution of bugs [4] ... and started fixing and reviewing bugs in Africa and other areas with low bug density * created a wiki page to organize the phase out [5] Most of the Open Bugs are in Germany and in Russia: [DE]15125 [RU]6474 [GB]2740 [US]1586 [IT]1227 [FR]1091 [BE]1068 Currently there are about 41000 open bugs in the OSB database. I think the best strategy is to fix as many open bugs as possible and close all bugs that are no longer valid. In about two month, make a mapping party and review the remaining bugs and move good bug reports to OSN. For some tasks I need some help: 1. Please fix as many bugs as possible. (all mappers, especially local) 2. Collect more programs and websites that are creating OSBs [2] 3. update Wiki main pages to use OSN instead of OSB: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Af:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fi:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fi:WikiProject Finland https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Id:Halaman Utama https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ko:첫 페이지 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:FAQ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Si:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sr:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Th:Main Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Uk:Main Page If you speek one of the language, can you change the wiki page, please? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main page beta https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main Page/test https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portals beta What are the test and beta pages good for? Update them, too? Any comment and help is welcome Thanks and regards Werner (werner2101) [1]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs#Tools_for_Using_and_Exporting_Data [3]http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary/20213 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/werner2101/diary/20268 [4]http://www.h-renrew.de/h/osm/osmchecks/09_osb_phaseout/ [5]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetBugs/Phase_Out ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs Phase Out. please help fixing open bugs
I just want to quickly use the opportunity to thank emka and everybody else who has worked on OSB over the years, historically and current. While I'm sure some of you have mixed feelings about the service being laid to rest, however the concept has proven itself and in the end the integration in to the main web site can be counted as a big success. Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs is offline
There was an article on heise online. Simon Am 31.01.2012 15:07, schrieb Mitja Kleider: Hi, short notice: The server running OpenStreetBugs was under heavy load today. OpenStreetBugs is now offline. Do you know where osmbugs.org was featured? Technical details: The old implementation does not feature a WSGI interface. It is has not been under active development for about two years and I believe development should focus on [1]. Today's incoming requests (referrer: osmbugs.org) spawned too many CGI processes. We are looking into a solution. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks/Progress/OpenStreetBugs/notes_integration Mitja ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs is offline
On 31.01.2012 15:07, Mitja Kleider wrote: short notice: The server running OpenStreetBugs was under heavy load today. OpenStreetBugs is now offline. Do you know where osmbugs.org was featured? It may have been heised. There's a (german) article about the Night of the living maps[0] at heise.de. Since heise.de is probably the largest german IT-related website, there's a bunch of pages that died because of links from one of their articles. Norbert [0] http://www.heise.de/ct/meldung/OpenStreetMap-ruft-zur-Nacht-der-lebenden-Karten-1425181.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs silliness
On 11 April 2010 20:42, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Worse, there is no feedback to the original bug reporter, who won't even get a message saying that his bug has been rejected. The bug is then deleted after seven days, so the information is lost. I wonder how many other contributions have been lost in this way? Surely a bug in OSB should not be marked as 'resolved' until the map has been updated. What you've described is probably another good reason that OSM should have something of it's own or better integrate with OSB so these kinds of things can trigger emails if the bug is fixed, if it needs reopening because it was closed incorrectly etc etc etc. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs: shared database and translations
I tend to use OpenStreetBugs when I spot something on the map that makes no sense (such as one-way indications that leave you stuck in one place) or where information is missing (as often when a road and cycleway cross, but there is neither an explicit intersection nor an explicit layer tag to say they don't intersect). Usually this is when investigating a warning from http://keepright.ipax.at/. It's also useful to note a feature that should be surveyed and added to the map, but where you don't have enough information to add it yourself. For example you might spot some missing streets from a car window as you drive past, but you don't know how long they are or their exact position. Adding a FIXME tag to the map is another way of marking these to-do items, but that requires the feature to already exist. Until now, when I have gone out to do mapping I have focused mainly on killing the no-name highlights, and adding missing paths as a side effect. But as inner London is nearly complete now, in future I expect to go armed with a list of bugs in an area and try to survey them. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs: shared database and translations
Mitja Kleider wrote: I am happy to announce that error reports are now stored in one single database, no matter whether you are using the interface at http://openstreetbugs.org/ or at the Google hosted http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/. Please forgive me if I'm not understanding correctly, but what is the purpose of this site? I looked at the a couple of problems that were listed in my area. It seems to me, if they know the problems then they know the solutions. It would have taken less time for the poster to fix them himself rather than posting to this site asking others to it for them. Or am I missing something? This one seems worth while because even though it doesn't pick up everything, it automatically searches the database. http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs: shared database and translations
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Mitja Kleider wrote: I am happy to announce that error reports are now stored in one single database, no matter whether you are using the interface at http://openstreetbugs.org/ or at the Google hosted http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/. Please forgive me if I'm not understanding correctly, but what is the purpose of this site? I looked at the a couple of problems that were listed in my area. It seems to me, if they know the problems then they know the solutions. It would have taken less time for the poster to fix them himself rather than posting to this site asking others to it for them. Or am I missing something? The point behind openstreetbugs was/is to provide an extremely easy-to-use interface for people outside of the mapping community to bring attention to something that needs to be fixed with the map data. Think of it as an analogue to the Report a problem feature that appeared in the US portion of maps.google.com last week. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs: shared database and translations
El Miércoles, 14 de Octubre de 2009, Shaun McDonald escribió: It's for people who don't know how to edit osm data, or reminders to go and resurvey something by mappers. ... or a reminder to edit that tomorrow, as it's 4 AM and you only think about fixing just one more roundabout. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Las palabras son los clavos para fijar las ideas.- A. Godin. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com wrote: I hope I'm not alone in saying Thank You! :-D OSB is a wonderful resource that many of us couldn't live without. I know a few people were sceptical due to the licensing, but hopefully now they will be quiet. Yes it's useful, but I don't see how this addresses the problems of OSB being closed. Is this not a third party implementation of the OSB JS interface which is not running on the main OSB site, and is the OSB bug DB not still closed with no dumps available? Without putting words in Xaviers mouth, I think this is more of an issue of time constraints than anything else. Xavier sent a copy of the source code to Cristoph and me, not sure how big of a step it is from that to putting that code in subversion. Consider, it took a long time before we had planet dumps, and wikipedia has much troubles with the dumps. -- /emj ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
Tom Hughes wrote: I'm all for having the geo-bugs in the main database, in fact I would much prefer that Yep, me too, as I'd like to add support in Potlatch. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Openstreetbugs-source-code-tp22090086p22117319.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
Tom Hughes wrote: Steve Hill wrote: I find OSB very useful (especially with the JOSM plugin), but I'd be really interested to know what the rationale is behind having a separate database rather than storing the bugs as nodes in OSM itself? Haven't we discussed that about a hundred times before... The simple answer is that it's a bad plan - bugs are not map data. I'm all for having the geo-bugs in the main database, in fact I would much prefer that, but they should be in a separate table. Tom Now that sounds like a fabulous idea :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Matthias Julius wrote: Yes it's useful, but I don't see how this addresses the problems of OSB being closed. Is this not a third party implementation of the OSB JS interface which is not running on the main OSB site, and is the OSB bug DB not still closed with no dumps available? But now, since the code is available, someone could set it up as bugs.openstreetmap.org or so and integrate it with the OSM main site. I find OSB very useful (especially with the JOSM plugin), but I'd be really interested to know what the rationale is behind having a separate database rather than storing the bugs as nodes in OSM itself? - Steve xmpp:st...@nexusuk.org sip:st...@nexusuk.org http://www.nexusuk.org/ Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum - Whisper, Evanescence ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
Steve Hill wrote: I find OSB very useful (especially with the JOSM plugin), but I'd be really interested to know what the rationale is behind having a separate database rather than storing the bugs as nodes in OSM itself? Haven't we discussed that about a hundred times before... The simple answer is that it's a bad plan - bugs are not map data. I'm all for having the geo-bugs in the main database, in fact I would much prefer that, but they should be in a separate table. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
Tom Hughes wrote: Sent: 19 February 2009 8:53 PM To: Steve Hill Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Matthias Julius Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code Steve Hill wrote: I find OSB very useful (especially with the JOSM plugin), but I'd be really interested to know what the rationale is behind having a separate database rather than storing the bugs as nodes in OSM itself? Haven't we discussed that about a hundred times before... The simple answer is that it's a bad plan - bugs are not map data. I'm all for having the geo-bugs in the main database, in fact I would much prefer that, but they should be in a separate table. +1 Cheers Andy Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date: 02/18/09 20:55:00 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi, I recently integrated openstreetbugs in the mappa-mercia website. Since this received some interest I extracted the osb code from the site and made it available for download on http://www.b3e.net/openstreetbugs.html The archive contains a modified version of Xavier's osb javascript code, some documentation, and four python scripts which implement a simple osb server-side. With the code from the archive it is possible to deploy a complete osb setup. The server-side scripts were mostly developed for testing my modified version. They probably need some love and intensive testing before using them on a public website. All code is made available under GPLv3. I have emailed with Xavier and he is fine with this. Christpoh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk I hope I'm not alone in saying Thank You! :-D OSB is a wonderful resource that many of us couldn't live without. I know a few people were sceptical due to the licensing, but hopefully now they will be quiet. Thanks again :-) Kyle -- Kyle Gordon - 2M1DIQ Web: http://lodge.glasgownet.com Jabber/Email/SIP: k...@lodge.glasgownet.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com wrote: I hope I'm not alone in saying Thank You! :-D OSB is a wonderful resource that many of us couldn't live without. I know a few people were sceptical due to the licensing, but hopefully now they will be quiet. Yes it's useful, but I don't see how this addresses the problems of OSB being closed. Is this not a third party implementation of the OSB JS interface which is not running on the main OSB site, and is the OSB bug DB not still closed with no dumps available? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Openstreetbugs source code
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Kyle Gordon k...@lodge.glasgownet.com wrote: I hope I'm not alone in saying Thank You! :-D OSB is a wonderful resource that many of us couldn't live without. I know a few people were sceptical due to the licensing, but hopefully now they will be quiet. Yes it's useful, but I don't see how this addresses the problems of OSB being closed. Is this not a third party implementation of the OSB JS interface which is not running on the main OSB site, and is the OSB bug DB not still closed with no dumps available? But now, since the code is available, someone could set it up as bugs.openstreetmap.org or so and integrate it with the OSM main site. Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:12:53AM +, Christoph Böhme wrote: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org schrieb: An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an openstreetbug-plugin for josm. It works by parsing the javascript responses from the openstreetbugs-website. So, there is already some kind of API which makes it possible to use openstreetbugs in other application. I would be happy to contribute to a redevelopment of openstreetbugs. A while ago I started to use it extensively mostly for notes to myself and to-do items. By using osb in these new ways, I began to miss a number of features like assigning a bug to someone, keeping old bugs for reference (especially if they turned out to be wrong), and having different types or importances of bugs. I would also love to see an Report Bug tab next to the edit tab on openstreetmap.org. I second this - OpenStreetBugs has become a very important reporting tool that Aunt Tilly who has very good local knowledge can report bugs/inconsistencys/missing features to the mappers. I think its worth beeing included on the main page - Probably it would be a good idea to make it more open, put the code into svn, make the database schemas visible so that we do not depend on a single person. Has there been any development on this or is OSB still just as closed? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Hi, I think its worth beeing included on the main page - Probably it would be a good idea to make it more open, put the code into svn, make the database schemas visible so that we do not depend on a single person. Has there been any development on this or is OSB still just as closed? AFAIK it is still as closed as before, but my mobile map at http://www.petschge.de/projekte/mobilemap/ interfaces with it. I just looked at the javascript code and some packet dump of traffic between browser and OSb server. Turned out that the format of the requests if pretty much straight forward. Patrick Petschge Kilian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Ian Dees [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Yes, and it should have an API to enable editors to get to the data. Is the author of OSB on the list still? If he's interested I'd be happy to help add these features. On the other hand, I'd be happy to rewrite OSB to include these features... maybe he's only on the talk-fr list... I'll try to reach him today... but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A SVN should do the stuff here but I don't know anything about the licence of OSB which in and of itself is a pb cause we could spend effort on other task in place of rewriting the existant. -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x39494CCB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an openstreetbug-plugin for josm. It works by parsing the javascript responses from the openstreetbugs-website. So, there is already some kind of API which makes it possible to use openstreetbugs in other application. I would be happy to contribute to a redevelopment of openstreetbugs. A while ago I started to use it extensively mostly for notes to myself and to-do items. By using osb in these new ways, I began to miss a number of features like assigning a bug to someone, keeping old bugs for reference (especially if they turned out to be wrong), and having different types or importances of bugs. I would also love to see an Report Bug tab next to the edit tab on openstreetmap.org. Cheers, Christoph ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, November 26, 2008 11:32, Hakan Tandogan wrote: On Wed, November 26, 2008 11:24, David Earl wrote: On 26/11/2008 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an RSS feed from OpenStreetBugs which is, in effect, a regular localised dump. It's what you need if you're mentoring a particular area. Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org Please disregard my question, I just found that you get the RSS link as soon as you are zoomed in to Level 11. I always had the impression that no one used OSB in the general area of Turkey because I never saw any bug icons there, but zooming in deeper clearly shows some of the icons. In that case, the problem remains that you can't get a feed of a large but sparsely populated area like the whole of turkey. Would manipulating the coordinates in the RSS url work or is there a check for too large areas in the server code? Regards, Hakan -- The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:12:53AM +, Christoph Böhme wrote: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an openstreetbug-plugin for josm. It works by parsing the javascript responses from the openstreetbugs-website. So, there is already some kind of API which makes it possible to use openstreetbugs in other application. I would be happy to contribute to a redevelopment of openstreetbugs. A while ago I started to use it extensively mostly for notes to myself and to-do items. By using osb in these new ways, I began to miss a number of features like assigning a bug to someone, keeping old bugs for reference (especially if they turned out to be wrong), and having different types or importances of bugs. I would also love to see an Report Bug tab next to the edit tab on openstreetmap.org. I second this - OpenStreetBugs has become a very important reporting tool that Aunt Tilly who has very good local knowledge can report bugs/inconsistencys/missing features to the mappers. I think its worth beeing included on the main page - Probably it would be a good idea to make it more open, put the code into svn, make the database schemas visible so that we do not depend on a single person. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, November 26, 2008 11:24, David Earl wrote: On 26/11/2008 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an RSS feed from OpenStreetBugs which is, in effect, a regular localised dump. It's what you need if you're mentoring a particular area. Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org Regards, Hakan -- The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
Xav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no published API documentation because : - the API is not clean - I fear it's showing the big hole to spamers (if a spamer want to spam OSB, he always will find the hole... but the later the better) If someone wants to spam OSB he always can look at your JavaScript code to find out how. Not documenting the API gives OSB very little protection. It just makes it harder for legitimate users. Now it is well known. I'm okay to publish the sources. - the server side is quite special (GoogleAppEngine/BigTable) - the client side is ugly and some would want to rewrite it from the start - I'm not certain it would be beneficial for the simplicity of OSB I don't really get your last point here. You don't have to put it in OSM's SVN (although this would be preferred by many people here, I guess). You can put it on SourceForge for example and still be in control of the code. Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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Hi, I'm the creator/administrator/grand-gourou of OSB, and I'm always aware of this mailing-list :-) So... David : As the comments are all anonymous, I wonder whether there could be a third mode which is reviewed but not changed which stays on the map. That may be a good idea... A new step ? 1. bug to see (the actual non-closed state) 2. reviewed bug/parked (discussed, strange, etc.) 3. closed What do you think ? Norbert: I would think that adding the data layer to OSB would help very much on that issue. David : I think this would be confusing for non mappers for whom this tool is primarily intended. I do not know if it's easy to add this strange layer. I have no objection because : - you think it's useful for your use - 95% of the newbies don't try other layers - it could be a first approach for them to see THE data Frederik : The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. You're half right. The server side code has never been published. The client side code is pure Javascript/Ajax... so you can easily view it. Frederik : The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. Matthias : and it should have an API to enable editors to get to the data. There is an embryon of an API. Regularly, some people ask me for an API. I give it to them with pleasure. Some external services already use it : http://www.andnav.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSB_Reports Maybe other ones. There is no published API documentation because : - the API is not clean - I fear it's showing the big hole to spamers (if a spamer want to spam OSB, he always will find the hole... but the later the better) Frederik : No regular planet dumps, nothing. I made one, one day. See there : http://openstreetbugs.blogspot.com/2008/09/something-new.html And Gary68 does some tiny dumps regularly : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSB_Reports Frederik : A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. David : There is an RSS feed from OpenStreetBugs which is, in effect, a regular localised dump. It's what you need if you're mentoring a particular area. David, I think it's just a question of psychology. People (and Frederik in this case) would be reassured if the data is available. Not that they would use it, but it would just be more comfortable to know that, in any case, the data is still available. Regular planet dumps are easy to do but require some warning. If someone wants to make one big regular dump on its server, I'll be glad to give him the instructions. I can not do it on the server of OSB because : - no cron available - no access to the file system - files should not be more than 1Mb Hakan : Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org To be kind with the database, you can only get the data of a small area. The RSS link will appear at the bottom right if you zoom an area. If you want a global survey of OSB, you can go there : http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/stats/lastTen This is not useful at all... just funny... Frederik : If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. Ouch. I'm less important than data. :-) But you are right. This is a problem. Frederik : If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Or you should ask the author to publish his code. :-) I've been conservative at the beginning because : - I feared that some script kiddies would make duplicated OSBs and duplicated content. - I feared that everybody would not agree with the simplicity of OSB (this extreme simplicity is its strong in my opinion) Now it is well known. I'm okay to publish the sources. - the server side is quite special (GoogleAppEngine/BigTable) - the client side is ugly and some would want to rewrite it from the start - I'm not certain it would be beneficial for the simplicity of OSB If someone has some advices in terms of open-source project management, contact me. Matthias : Or even an OSB layer on the main map? That's a good idea. This can be done by anybody : - the javascript client is public - the server side is accessible via an API Kyle : As far as I can see, OSB is aimed at regular users who are not terribly interested in contributing, but would happily click a button _or two_ to report an error. That's exactly my point of view ! Keep It Simple. Or use Potlatch. RalfZ : People typically write posts on the mailing lists when things don't work. I want to tell you that I think OpenStreetBugs works nicely in the area of Munich, Germany. Thanks :-) Germany is very active on OSB. Because of the high
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:11:22AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) The API is defined and Xav answers questions on it very quick and even extends it on request - This is i guess how the JOSM OSB Plugin was created ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On Wed, November 26, 2008 12:01, Xav wrote: No regular planet dumps, nothing. And Gary68 does some tiny dumps regularly : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSB_Reports ... Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org To be kind with the database, you can only get the data of a small area. The RSS link will appear at the bottom right if you zoom an area. I see. Gary just reperatedly polls your server for a given subarea and stitches the returned data, hoping that he will catch all entries in the given area. Not really something you want to do regularly ;-) Maybe you could allow bigger requests, but cut off the RSS data after so many entries (say, the 80 you already have implemented) ? Regards, Hakan -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On 26/11/2008 10:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Steven Le Roux wrote: but... guys... OSB is a quite fresh useful tool... don't expect it to bring all the piece you need (API...) A daily dump of the database content in any format would probably be sufficient for now. An API would be cool of course but as OSM itself proves, if you offer dumps then others can do the API ;-) There is an RSS feed from OpenStreetBugs which is, in effect, a regular localised dump. It's what you need if you're mentoring a particular area. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Where is that RSS feed links? I can't find anything in the links page or on the main page of www.openstreetbugs.org Further to this, when you are using the website, how do you know how old the comments are in case they are already fixed. There are two near here. One says there is another road here and I don't know whether it means a nearby farm track which isn't currently mapped or the road it is (now) on. The other says the coastline joining to the river isn't done correctly at a point where the coastline joins to another bit of coastline. I'm tempted to close them both, but don't know how old they are or how to contact the person who added them for more details. OK. I've answered my own question and clicked in the bottom left hand corner on As RSS feed and it has returned the three nearest items with date (July 2008). Now to check the history on the relevant ways to see if they are newer. Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On 11/25/2008 07:29 PM, David Earl wrote: A few of the comments are good calls, but many are down to the inability of Mapnik to show detail From what I see in Vienna I think OSB is mainly used from active mappers, which just are not sure. I would consider a lot of those entries just to be done quickly and without opening another OSM view and checking the data layer. So I would think that adding the data layer to OSB would help very much on that issue. cheers, Norbert ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On 25/11/2008 19:49, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 11/25/2008 07:29 PM, David Earl wrote: A few of the comments are good calls, but many are down to the inability of Mapnik to show detail From what I see in Vienna I think OSB is mainly used from active mappers, which just are not sure. I'm sure that's because no one outsiode these lists would be aware of it. However, I hope that will change as I have changed the main page of the wiki to give a prominent link to it. (If someone clicks the 'help' button on the map, that's the page they see). I would consider a lot of those entries just to be done quickly and without opening another OSM view and checking the data layer. So I would think that adding the data layer to OSB would help very much on that issue. I think this would be confusing for non mappers for whom this tool is primarily intended. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 25/11/2008 19:49, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 11/25/2008 07:29 PM, David Earl wrote: A few of the comments are good calls, but many are down to the inability of Mapnik to show detail From what I see in Vienna I think OSB is mainly used from active mappers, which just are not sure. I'm sure that's because no one outsiode these lists would be aware of it. However, I hope that will change as I have changed the main page of the wiki to give a prominent link to it. (If someone clicks the 'help' button on the map, that's the page they see). For that to be really useful it should be even more prominent. There could be a link on www.openstreetmap.org (not necessarily on the map) that says: Something wrong on the map? Report it here! that links to the same location, zoom and layer on OSB. Or even an OSB layer on the main map? Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
People typically write posts on the mailing lists when things don't work. I want to tell you that I think OpenStreetBugs works nicely in the area of Munich, Germany. I am writing comments on OSB every now and then and I am checking it pretty regularly. In Munich I would say we have established a nice way of using the tool. I have seen unexperienced users giving hints about features that are wrong or missing on the map. These messages have been answered in a very productive way. I have seen experienced users asking for opinions on unclear information. These entries have sometimes triggered very useful discussions on those items that only locals know. And all of that took place on those little notes you can leave on OSB. In Munich, the OSM data is almost complete. And I think OSB is a valuable help for filling in those small gaps that we have. Thanks a lot for the tool! RalfZ Munich, Germany ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: For that to be really useful it should be even more prominent. There could be a link on www.openstreetmap.org (not necessarily on the map) that says: Something wrong on the map? Report it here! that links to the same location, zoom and layer on OSB. Or even an OSB layer on the main map? Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
Ralf Zimmermann wrote: People typically write posts on the mailing lists when things don't work. So your average user, who is just having a look for his house will go to the hassle of finding the mailing list, signing up, approving his email, and then posting? I don't think so. The people you are referring to are existing OSM contributors. As far as I can see, OSB is aimed at regular users who are not terribly interested in contributing, but would happily click a button _or two_ to report an error. Regards Kyle ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
Hi, Kyle Gordon wrote: Ralf Zimmermann wrote: People typically write posts on the mailing lists when things don't work. So your average user, who is just having a look for his house will go to the hassle of finding the mailing list, signing up, approving his email, [...] Have you read Ralf's mail at all, or only the first paragraph? His message was (paraphrased for clarity): Most postings on a mailing list are about things that don't work. For a change, I want to tell you that OpenStreetBugs works well! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: For that to be really useful it should be even more prominent. There could be a link on www.openstreetmap.org (not necessarily on the map) that says: Something wrong on the map? Report it here! that links to the same location, zoom and layer on OSB. Or even an OSB layer on the main map? Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Yes, and it should have an API to enable editors to get to the data. Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs - open or not?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that * The OpenStreetBugs source code is not published. Your only way to improve OpenStreetBugs in any way is to politely ask the author to do something for you. No SVN or something. * The data collected by OpenStreetBugs is available exclusively through the OpenStreetBugs service. No regular planet dumps, nothing. If the author gets run over by a bus tomorrow then we have nothing left. If the above is true then I'm all for implementing our own, open version of OpenStreetBugs, instead of further popularizing the existing application. Yes, and it should have an API to enable editors to get to the data. Is the author of OSB on the list still? If he's interested I'd be happy to help add these features. On the other hand, I'd be happy to rewrite OSB to include these features... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
Jukka Rahkonen wrote: I would like to to see error reports from OpenStreetBugs as an overlay layer in OSM main map just like Maplint errors. Could it be possible? Even better if error reports could also be done from the main page either by integrating OpenStreetBugs into it or by making another same kind of utility. i'll second that - it would be an excellent, very accessible way of getting casual users adding and correcting data. there must be heaps of people who don't want the perceived hassle of signing up, and/or aren't interested in learning the idiosyncrasies of potlatch, josm, merkaartor ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jukka Rahkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to to see error reports from OpenStreetBugs as an overlay layer in OSM main map just like Maplint errors. Could it be possible? Even better if error reports could also be done from the main page either by integrating OpenStreetBugs into it or by making another same kind of utility. The right way to do it would have been to write OSB as an extension to the main web site, and if somebody wants to do that then that would be great. Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
someone told me me a good idea to provide easy addition to the map make a poi bar with icons next to the map, visitors can drag a poi from this bar onto the map then a popup form with additional info can be filled in. the handling of this data can be the same as the bugs (someone has to approve/process these additions) Rob 2008/8/11 Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jukka Rahkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to to see error reports from OpenStreetBugs as an overlay layer in OSM main map just like Maplint errors. Could it be possible? Even better if error reports could also be done from the main page either by integrating OpenStreetBugs into it or by making another same kind of utility. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
Rob schrieb: someone told me me a good idea to provide easy addition to the map make a poi bar with icons next to the map, visitors can drag a poi from this bar onto the map then a popup form with additional info can be filled in. the handling of this data can be the same as the bugs (someone has to approve/process these additions) How, we would handle all items not visible, due to not rendered in our current presentations? regards, Stephan. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
2008/8/11 Stephan Schildberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rob schrieb: someone told me me a good idea to provide easy addition to the map make a poi bar with icons next to the map, visitors can drag a poi from this bar onto the map then a popup form with additional info can be filled in. the handling of this data can be the same as the bugs (someone has to approve/process these additions) How, we would handle all items not visible, due to not rendered in our current presentations? if you (as osm'er) can subscribe to bugs/additions in a predefined area (a bounding box), and get a email or rss, then you can process it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
How, we would handle all items not visible, due to not rendered in our current presentations? if you (as osm'er) can subscribe to bugs/additions in a predefined area (a bounding box), and get a email or rss, then you can process it. Sure, that might be feasible, but in order to prevent useless alerts again and again, because the demanded data is already in OSM. We should catch those before it reaches us. That can be done to give visitors to give insight of all data in one spot before he gets the idea something is missing. regards, Stephan. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
It is one of the suggestions to do at the next hack weekend. Do you guess it's feasible to get anywhere in one weekend with this? Martijn Op 11 aug 2008, om 10:00 heeft Tom Hughes het volgende geschreven: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jukka Rahkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to to see error reports from OpenStreetBugs as an overlay layer in OSM main map just like Maplint errors. Could it be possible? Even better if error reports could also be done from the main page either by integrating OpenStreetBugs into it or by making another same kind of utility. The right way to do it would have been to write OSB as an extension to the main web site, and if somebody wants to do that then that would be great. Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs as a layer into OSM main map
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Martijn van Exel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is one of the suggestions to do at the next hack weekend. Do you guess it's feasible to get anywhere in one weekend with this? Well I've already said that I would prefer to concentrate on one thing (ie API 06) and not get bogged down in trying to do lots of things at once. Tom -- Tom Hughes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 08:19:21PM +0100, Ludwig wrote: What about the ability to generate email alerts depending on region, so one could subscribe to all new bug reports within a bounding box? Why don't you subscribe to the corresponding RSS feed with an RSS feed reader then. You'll be notified of changes in your areas, I believe. using something like Yahoo Pipes, you could manipulate the RSS feeds to filter out exactly the ones you want. spaetz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
Am Dienstag, 1. Juli 2008 23:06 schrieb Xav: My guess here is that in the future even my Mum and Dad will probably open bugs (due to the simplistic interface) I dream of it :-) I would like a translation of OSB to German, then my Mum and Das will use it also. Would that be posible? I can help on this! Sven ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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It should be easy for me to change the left side bar text. If you propose a translation, I'll try to put it. However, changing the dynamic text (buttons in bubbles, warning when you want to close a marker, etc.) needs some work... Xav Sven Anders a écrit : Am Dienstag, 1. Juli 2008 23:06 schrieb Xav: My guess here is that in the future even my Mum and Dad will probably open bugs (due to the simplistic interface) I dream of it :-) I would like a translation of OSB to German, then my Mum and Das will use it also. Would that be posible? I can help on this! Sven ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 11:06:28PM +0200, Xav wrote: to convert FIXME notes to bugs in openstreetbugs That's a serious work. It implies duplicated data, and thus consistency issues and policies. I mean parsing the .osc files shouldnt be too hard and putting the FIXMEs with their corresponding OSM object id (way, point) into the bug database so a collision by duplicate FIXMEs should be impossible (as long as adding the same FIXME with the same object id again is prohibited). A validation of the bugs should be possible by querying the object id from the OSM database and checking for the note/FIXME tag - so closing the bug from an editor would be as simple as removing the FIXME. The only dupe issue i would see is a user adding a manual Bug via the openstreetbugs webpage and me adding a FIXME to a way. So we end up with 2 bugs at the same spot. This is where i thought about bug merging e.g. clicking to bugs and saying merge. If one of the bugs would be dependent on an OSM object this would be taken to the new merged bug... Thinking of it, another solution would be to show FIXMES on the Maplint layer... or another special rendered layer. I put this feature is on the far bottom of the ToDo list... :) The other one would be to load the openstreetbugs into a JOSM layer. So take the OSB gpx file - do the survey - load the map into JOSM and load the bugs aswell to show the positions to focus on. Do you propose a new feature that I do not understand? Do you know that it's already possible to open the OSB-GPX into JOSM? You get a new layer with bugs on it. Maybe you propose a JOSM plugin to download automatically bugs from OSB? (If somebody want to do that...) Yep that i meant - automagically loading the openstreetbugs layer into josm. So it would probably not even be necessary to do survey, just to open the editor so this would make this type of workflow much faster and simpler. The advantage of being formal, with a workflow, is that it's efficient. But you could loose the human interaction with the newbies (your parents). I think it's important for them to see that there are people behind and that they can also work with better tools than OSB : potlatch and JOSM. Another idea would probably be to classify bugs from a drop down list. Looking at the TomTom Mapshare stuff this is really nice. Just the top 10 causes for mapping errors - Spelling, Junction Changed, Road Changed etc. This could be used to display different icons and make it obvious what to look for on the survey ;). This is a frequently proposed feature. However, I really like the extreme simplicity and liberty. Also, I think there is too many kind of errors to be obvious. If I had another kind of marker, that would be a no-bug marker, just to discuss with other mappers. I guess we simply need to start using it and see what needs come up by dealing with the bugs. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:28:59PM +0200, X wrote: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. Hi, i started documenting missing and buggy spots in my area. As you seem to set a cookie containing the nickname would it be possible to put some kind of homelocation into the cookie aswell. Rennes is quite far away from where i typically look - I have set a permlink bookmark but sometimes its even easier as this. BTW: The permlink seems not to include the layer to be displayed e.g. mapnik vs. osmarender is that intentional? Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:23:07 +0200 Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:28:59PM +0200, X wrote: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. Hi, i started documenting missing and buggy spots in my area. As you seem to set a cookie containing the nickname would it be possible to put some kind of homelocation into the cookie aswell. I recently mailed Xav off-list and suggested to save the last seen position to the cookie and to add Maplint to the overlays, so Maplint errors can be transferred to OSBugs. Christian signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Florian L. : Rennes is quite far away from where i typically look - I have set a permlink bookmark but sometimes its even easier as this. I know this is very frustrating. An idea would be to give a global view of the Europe as a default zoom. But with such a low zoom, newcomers could not see any bugs and would be lost. As you seem to set a cookie containing the nickname would it be possible to put some kind of homelocation into the cookie aswell. That's a very good idea. I'll work on it. The permlink seems not to include the layer to be displayed e.g. mapnik vs. osmarender is that intentional? In the ToDo-list. Christian K. : [...] to add Maplint to the overlays, so Maplint errors can be transferred to OSBugs. Good idea ! Done. Lauri Hahne : my main gripe about your program is that bugs can't have different severity ratings and that these ratings aren't visible. Let's see what will be the uses before adding constrains :-) The current 'x' icon is very hostile and upfront So, as a local mapper, it is very grateful to make them disappear (by correcting them of course) :-) it's a bad idea to use this same hostile icon as favicon What should I put ? Simon : Are the 'bugs' timestamped, can they be marked as fixed (squashed bug icon?) for a few days and then auto-magically disappear? Thanks for the idea, I made it. The closed bugs can't be modified and they disappear after a week (to be sure that Mapnick is refreshed). xav ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 05:43:57PM +0200, X wrote: The permlink seems not to include the layer to be displayed e.g. mapnik vs. osmarender is that intentional? In the ToDo-list. Thanks for beeing so responsive ;) 2 things i have on my mind but consider them just ideas. One would be as i already mentioned to convert FIXME notes to bugs in openstreetbugs so we have some kind of auto open of bugs. Probably those could be of a different priority or even a different icon etc ... It should be possible just to do this incrementally, processing the osc files from planet.openstreetmap.org e.g. hourly or daily files. If this fails for some reason its not a real problem. Either we miss bugs (which are still FIXMEs) or we miss closes where the problem will be fixed so the bug can easily be considered done. Also a verification run for old bugs could be done via the normal OSM API. The other one would be to load the openstreetbugs into a JOSM layer. So take the OSB gpx file - do the survey - load the map into JOSM and load the bugs aswell to show the positions to focus on. My guess here is that in the future even my Mum and Dad will probably open bugs (due to the simplistic interface) and sometimes these will only be spelling errors or the like. So it would probably not even be necessary to do survey, just to open the editor so this would make this type of workflow much faster and simpler. Making the JOSM stuff bidirectional is really step 2 and i know the JOSM stuff is most likely not your main focus but just to mention it. Another idea would probably be to classify bugs from a drop down list. Looking at the TomTom Mapshare stuff this is really nice. Just the top 10 causes for mapping errors - Spelling, Junction Changed, Road Changed etc. This could be used to display different icons and make it obvious what to look for on the survey ;). When bugs get overhead joining of bugs would make sense. Imagine beeing able to get into the TomTom stuff and using OSM maps and diverting the MapShare button to OpenStreetBugs ;) Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
X wrote: Florian L. : Rennes is quite far away from where i typically look - I have set a permlink bookmark but sometimes its even easier as this. I know this is very frustrating. An idea would be to give a global view of the Europe as a default zoom. But with such a low zoom, newcomers could not see any bugs and would be lost. Why not display the most recent/oldest/a random set of 50/100 bugs. Then when the user zooms in they get only the bugs for that area. The higher the zoom the less likely they are to get bugs dropped out. [...] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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What about the ability to generate email alerts depending on region, so one could subscribe to all new bug reports within a bounding box? I somehow have the feeling that there are people out there who take pride in having 'their' area mapped accurately and would scamper out to fix bugs (almost) as soon as they get the notification. This leads to something that people can become area stewards. The email could contain the GPX file as attachment for easy upload to GPS. Ludwig 2008/7/1 Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 05:43:57PM +0200, X wrote: The permlink seems not to include the layer to be displayed e.g. mapnik vs. osmarender is that intentional? In the ToDo-list. Thanks for beeing so responsive ;) 2 things i have on my mind but consider them just ideas. One would be as i already mentioned to convert FIXME notes to bugs in openstreetbugs so we have some kind of auto open of bugs. Probably those could be of a different priority or even a different icon etc ... It should be possible just to do this incrementally, processing the osc files from planet.openstreetmap.org e.g. hourly or daily files. If this fails for some reason its not a real problem. Either we miss bugs (which are still FIXMEs) or we miss closes where the problem will be fixed so the bug can easily be considered done. Also a verification run for old bugs could be done via the normal OSM API. The other one would be to load the openstreetbugs into a JOSM layer. So take the OSB gpx file - do the survey - load the map into JOSM and load the bugs aswell to show the positions to focus on. My guess here is that in the future even my Mum and Dad will probably open bugs (due to the simplistic interface) and sometimes these will only be spelling errors or the like. So it would probably not even be necessary to do survey, just to open the editor so this would make this type of workflow much faster and simpler. Making the JOSM stuff bidirectional is really step 2 and i know the JOSM stuff is most likely not your main focus but just to mention it. Another idea would probably be to classify bugs from a drop down list. Looking at the TomTom Mapshare stuff this is really nice. Just the top 10 causes for mapping errors - Spelling, Junction Changed, Road Changed etc. This could be used to display different icons and make it obvious what to look for on the survey ;). When bugs get overhead joining of bugs would make sense. Imagine beeing able to get into the TomTom stuff and using OSM maps and diverting the MapShare button to OpenStreetBugs ;) Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIalXSUaz2rXW+gJcRAgAgAJ98+TM5S6ZHmWcw/upjIfxghaJgSACg34QG ym+dN665oPxPsI48xOKiAcg= =zonT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 08:19:21PM +0100, Ludwig wrote: What about the ability to generate email alerts depending on region, so one could subscribe to all new bug reports within a bounding box? Subscribe to it via the RSS feed and use an rss2email program ;) I somehow have the feeling that there are people out there who take pride in having 'their' area mapped accurately and would scamper out to fix bugs (almost) as soon as they get the notification. This leads to something that people can become area stewards. The email could contain the GPX file as attachment for easy upload to GPS. Flo -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
Is there any way it can be made to work with Internet Explorer? I think that's really important if you're looking to use as a way for anyone to interact with OSM. On 6/13/08, X [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. Xav (french mapper). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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In fact, this is how it works (the marks are not really deleted but closed). But I do not know exactly how to render the closed marks. After a while, there would be a lot of noisy closed marks... So I preferred to hide them and say that they have been deleted. You can see the deleted marks by adding old=true at the end of the URL of an RSS feed or of a GPX file. Are the 'bugs' timestamped, can they be marked as fixed (squashed bug icon?) for a few days and then auto-magically disappear? Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
Having done some human-computer-interaction courses at uni, my main gripe about your program is that bugs can't have different severity ratings and that these ratings aren't visible. The current 'x' icon is very hostile and upfront and should only be used to represent fatal errors in map, not to mark missing streets or typos. In addition it's a bad idea to use this same hostile icon as favicon. You should rather use something friendly and comfortable. 2008/6/13 X [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. Xav (french mapper). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk -- Lauri Hahne ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Lauri Hahne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having done some human-computer-interaction courses at uni, my main gripe about your program is that bugs can't have different severity ratings and that these ratings aren't visible. The current 'x' icon is very hostile and upfront and should only be used to represent fatal errors in map, not to mark missing streets or typos. In addition it's a bad idea to use this same hostile icon as favicon. You should rather use something friendly and comfortable. If the worst complaints he gets are about aesthetics, I think he's done a pretty good job. (Not to knock your comments in any way; I think they're valuable.) Karl ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:28:59PM +0200, X wrote: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. This is lovely. I mentioned it while I was at an OpenStreetMap talk (Manchester Free Software), and now my todo list is growing! http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/?lon=-2.185963706722356lat=53.4437251136z=14 Simon -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works.—John Gall signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Hi, I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Cool. Any chance you could remove the Google Analytics code? Not only does it give me Javascript error messages (_gat is not defined), but I always have the feeling - don't know whether it's justified - that they use it to collect data about me. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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2008/6/14 X [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. one thing that would be very useful xav - rather than having 'del mark', an option to say 'cleared' or 'fixed', similarly to how buzilla or trac work, would be very useful ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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- Deleting doesn't seem to work properly A majority of issues is just a problem of consistency [...] Mea culpa. That was a real bug. xav ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs : RSS
X schrieb: Hi There is now a RSS link for the visible area. (It's not perfect but it works) Know bug : the links (permalink, GPX and RSS), seem invisible on some browsers (FF3 Mac OSX for example). http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com Xav Very useful, thanks for the tool. In our area there´s now something like a bug-war, who can find more bugs in the area of the other mappers ;-) But we´re using it more like a to-do list now. Jonas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs : RSS
Nice How bout GeoRSS? :) - Original Message From: X [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:53:48 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs : RSS Hi There is now a RSS link for the visible area. (It's not perfect but it works) Know bug : the links (permalink, GPX and RSS), seem invisible on some browsers (FF3 Mac OSX for example). http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com Xav ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetBugs
Hi, On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 05:28:59PM +0200, X wrote: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. would it be a good idea to be able to open new bugs by adding a tag to a node in the map ? I mean we have a lot of FIXMEs and note why not a tag names bug ? The bug could then be closed once the tag has been removed. I often find myself in the position that i dont know things for certain so i add a FIXME to make clear that this is incomplete and needs verification. Those show up in the maplint layer. Beeing shown in the openstreetbugs would be fantastic and when combined with some kind of subscription to an area and probably RSS feed the the other bug tracker it make life easy as i would simply print the bugs for an area and have a Sunday evening bike ride ;) Flo PS: Now image combined with a routing software and the traveling saleman. Having the shortest route via all bugs in your area automatically printed. -- Florian Lohoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] +49-171-2280134 Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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Hi, http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html very cool :) . BTW: Was it possible to add a name tag, especially to the gpx download file? I didn't try what happens when loading nameless waypoints to my garmin yer :) . Cheers, ce ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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X schrieb: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. Xav (french mapper). ___ Very cool, thanks for the tool. I think it would be helpful to put this on the front page openstreetmap.org. Either in new Tab or only the plus button onto the map. Cheers, Jonas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
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It looks like updates done by the script are not fully correct. Deleting results in an empty balloon and still existing node. However, after refreshing it is correct. When adding a bug, it disappears when I hit OK. However, at that moment the bug I added before appears. Thus I always miss the last one added, but see all others. (I'm using FF3.) Besides that, it is very nice. Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Hello I just made a tiny tool for fun : http://gpsrevolution.blogspot.com/2008/06/openstreetbugs-eng.html That's not a big thing but I found it useful. Feel free to use it. Xav (french mapper). Very Cool. Deleting doesn't seem to work properly and if you add a bug when POI layer is disable you can enter details but it does not stick. In terms of usage where is the list of bugs maintained and can it be automatic split down into regions? There nothing like a bit of competition to get local teams motivated (my list has less bugs than yours...). Since we have mailing lists for different countries, would that be a suitable split? How about changing the marker to be a bug outline :-) Cheers, Simon. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
