[talk-ph] Day dependent turn restriction
One of the question raised during our Cebu City workshop was how to represent turn restriction for a specific day only. An example are the roads around Santo Nino Basilica [0] where routing is restricted during Fridays. Is there a turn restriction for this? Is it being used by online routing services like OSRM (Garmin does not have this)? I was unable to answer the question but I promised to send the reply to the participants if we indeed have a schema for this type of data. Thanks! [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=10.293924lon=123.902146zoom=18layers=M -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Day dependent turn restriction
Hi, I think the day_on day_off tags of the restrictions could apply : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction I would use : day_on=Friday; day_off=Saturday; Regards, Totor --- On Mon, 3/4/13, maning sambale wrote: From: maning sambale Subject: [talk-ph] Day dependent turn restriction To: osm-ph Date: Monday, March 4, 2013, 11:48 AM One of the question raised during our Cebu City workshop was how to represent turn restriction for a specific day only. An example are the roads around Santo Nino Basilica [0] where routing is restricted during Fridays. Is there a turn restriction for this? Is it being used by online routing services like OSRM (Garmin does not have this)? I was unable to answer the question but I promised to send the reply to the participants if we indeed have a schema for this type of data. Thanks! [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=10.293924lon=123.902146zoom=18layers=M -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Day dependent turn restriction
while i was doing turn restrictions, i saw the time and date settings for this as Makati also has streets like them didn't get to test them yet though --- I explore, therefore I blog! http://www.backpackingphilippines.com http://www.facebook.com/backpackingPhilippines http://www.twitter.com/backpackPH On Mar 4, 2013, at 7:48 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: One of the question raised during our Cebu City workshop was how to represent turn restriction for a specific day only. An example are the roads around Santo Nino Basilica [0] where routing is restricted during Fridays. Is there a turn restriction for this? Is it being used by online routing services like OSRM (Garmin does not have this)? I was unable to answer the question but I promised to send the reply to the participants if we indeed have a schema for this type of data. Thanks! [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=10.293924lon=123.902146zoom=18layers=M -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Day dependent turn restriction
I am personally using the tag opening hours however this is for closed roads during specific time of the day. An example is what i have done to Pacific Avenue in Paranaque. http://openstreetmap.org.ph/map/c/14.504968873270563/120.98921298980713/17/ Ervin Malicdem Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://schadow1.cxsmedia.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 56, Issue 2
Yes Eugene. As of January 5, 2013, the tunnel is conditionally passable. and the Patungan part of road after the tunnel coming from Ternate is still unpaved. See my post here: http://schadow1.cxsmedia.com/2013/01/ternate-nasugbu-tunnel-and-roadtrip-to.html Ervin Malicdem Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://schadow1.cxsmedia.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:49:24 +0800 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] ternate - nasugbu tunnel It seems to be in OSM already but part of the route is marked as highway=track. There's also a tunnel present: http://osm.org/go/4zKlwYzB- On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: i passed this road already. lemme check my gps files when i get home. last time i went there last january, it is still being constructed but about 80 percent complete and cars can pass the tunnel one at a time. if you are coming from manila to nasugbu, this is a good alternative route since you will bypass the traffic of sta rosa and tagaytay already. good roads that is comparable to subic roads. sometimes you can even see monkeys by the road side. right after puerto azul, there is a junction to your left. it is a paved road. you wont go straight to caylabne. just go straight pagkakaliwa mo, tutumbukin mo na yung tunnel na yun lusot mo sa pico de loro at tali beach and other sosi beach resorts :) rem On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: where exactly is this? is this near puerto azul? is this already on OSM but UC? thanks --- I explore, therefore I blog! http://www.backpackingphilippines.com http://www.facebook.com/backpackingPhilippines http://www.twitter.com/backpackPH ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Rem Zamora Photojournalist +63-917-592-74-33 -link to my photos-http://www.googleplussuomi.com/photobox/?googleid=110367850779921090576 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM, talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to talk-ph@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ph-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of talk-ph digest... Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap scheduled maintenance - 08 March 2013 (maning sambale) 2. ternate - nasugbu tunnel (tutubi) 3. Re: ternate - nasugbu tunnel (rem zamora) 4. Re: Meetup in Cebu City (Totor) 5. Re: ternate - nasugbu tunnel (Eugene Alvin Villar) -- Forwarded message -- From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:50:13 +0800 Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap scheduled maintenance - 08 March 2013 FYI, Maning Sambale (mobile) -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Date: Mar 3, 2013 5:28 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap scheduled maintenance - 08 March 2013 To: t...@openstreetmap.org t...@openstreetmap.org, dev d...@openstreetmap.org Some services will be degraded on Friday, 08 March 2013 for scheduled maintenance. Please see the announcement for details. http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2013/03/02/scheduled-maintenance-08-march-2013/ ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Forwarded message -- From: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:33:02 +0800 Subject: [talk-ph] ternate - nasugbu tunnel where exactly is this? is this near puerto azul? is this already on OSM but UC? thanks --- I explore, therefore I blog! http://www.backpackingphilippines.com http://www.facebook.com/backpackingPhilippines http://www.twitter.com/backpackPH -- Forwarded message -- From: rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com To: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:45:58 +0800 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] ternate -
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 56, Issue 2
nice one ervin! On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Eugene. As of January 5, 2013, the tunnel is conditionally passable. and the Patungan part of road after the tunnel coming from Ternate is still unpaved. See my post here: http://schadow1.cxsmedia.com/2013/01/ternate-nasugbu-tunnel-and-roadtrip-to.html Ervin Malicdem Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own motherland. http://schadow1.cxsmedia.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:49:24 +0800 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] ternate - nasugbu tunnel It seems to be in OSM already but part of the route is marked as highway=track. There's also a tunnel present: http://osm.org/go/4zKlwYzB- On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:45 AM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: i passed this road already. lemme check my gps files when i get home. last time i went there last january, it is still being constructed but about 80 percent complete and cars can pass the tunnel one at a time. if you are coming from manila to nasugbu, this is a good alternative route since you will bypass the traffic of sta rosa and tagaytay already. good roads that is comparable to subic roads. sometimes you can even see monkeys by the road side. right after puerto azul, there is a junction to your left. it is a paved road. you wont go straight to caylabne. just go straight pagkakaliwa mo, tutumbukin mo na yung tunnel na yun lusot mo sa pico de loro at tali beach and other sosi beach resorts :) rem On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: where exactly is this? is this near puerto azul? is this already on OSM but UC? thanks --- I explore, therefore I blog! http://www.backpackingphilippines.com http://www.facebook.com/backpackingPhilippines http://www.twitter.com/backpackPH ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Rem Zamora Photojournalist +63-917-592-74-33 -link to my photos-http://www.googleplussuomi.com/photobox/?googleid=110367850779921090576 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM, talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to talk-ph@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ph-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of talk-ph digest... Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap scheduled maintenance - 08 March 2013 (maning sambale) 2. ternate - nasugbu tunnel (tutubi) 3. Re: ternate - nasugbu tunnel (rem zamora) 4. Re: Meetup in Cebu City (Totor) 5. Re: ternate - nasugbu tunnel (Eugene Alvin Villar) -- Forwarded message -- From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:50:13 +0800 Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap scheduled maintenance - 08 March 2013 FYI, Maning Sambale (mobile) -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Date: Mar 3, 2013 5:28 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap scheduled maintenance - 08 March 2013 To: t...@openstreetmap.org t...@openstreetmap.org, dev d...@openstreetmap.org Some services will be degraded on Friday, 08 March 2013 for scheduled maintenance. Please see the announcement for details. http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2013/03/02/scheduled-maintenance-08-march-2013/ ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Forwarded message -- From: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:33:02 +0800 Subject: [talk-ph] ternate - nasugbu tunnel where exactly is this? is this near puerto azul? is this already on OSM but UC? thanks --- I explore, therefore I blog! http://www.backpackingphilippines.com http://www.facebook.com/backpackingPhilippines http://www.twitter.com/backpackPH -- Forwarded message -- From: rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com To: tutubi
[talk-ph] Building, Lot and Landuse
Hi all, While checking the edits Cebu City, I found a small problem, where a whole area/lot is mapped as building to make it appear on OSM. A while ago, another mapper corrected one of my buildings, to so that it covered the whole lot. Some others to map big areas as buildings, probably because the name sometimes does not appear on the map for smaller buildings... So I wanted to make a small guide how to map buildings and how to keep the information of the whole lot (with eventually the name attached), that seems important to some. I discovered that in fact I don't know how to map a lot. I could not find a clear answer in the wiki. I would just map the lot as landuse=retail or landuse=residential, but that is normally used for big areas, not for individual lots. Any ideas ? Here is a webpage with an example picture : http://osm.totor.ph/mapping_lots/ Regards, Totor ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag for 'mutualiteiten' ?
On 03/03/2013 03:49 PM, Jo wrote: What about health_insurance? If there is no proper tag yet, it's allowed to add new ones. It's better to do that and document it, than to use one that means something different. Jo Hey Jo, you're probably right, but the only thing I can think of is that this will probably never get momentum if I turn out to be the only one using it. I'm not really argumenting against this, I sometimes fail to see the point of uncommon tagging. So usefulness seems low. However, we need something more suitable for this type of POI's tx. Glenn Op 3 maart 2013 15:37 schreef Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be mailto:gl...@byte-consult.be het volgende: On 03/03/2013 10:37 AM, Gilbert Hersschens wrote: Glen, ik vrees dat dit geen goede keuze is. In het Engels is een office in de context van gezondheidszorg de doctor's office en geen kantoor in de klassieke betekenis. Dit blijkt ook uit de omschrijving bij http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0#health_facility:type.3D.2A. Klopt, Maar ik had al zoveel gespamd die dag dat ik het niet had achter gestuurd, uiteindelijk was die idd ook niet erop. Blijkbaar kent de rest van de wereld niet echt de betekenis van een mutualiteit. Uiteindelijk is het maar dit geworden, idioot maar dat past het nog beste bij: name=CM Zemst office=insurance operator=Christelijke Mutualiteit ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag for 'mutualiteiten' ?
You could document it on Hoe map ik een. I'm willing to add it to the Benelux presets . Both will hopefully lead to a common tagging in Belgium. As far as I know the CM offices are not tagged that often yet. At least when there is some form of standard tagging for it, it is easy to adapt it to another standard, in case a more popular appears one day. m On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: On 03/03/2013 03:49 PM, Jo wrote: What about health_insurance? If there is no proper tag yet, it's allowed to add new ones. It's better to do that and document it, than to use one that means something different. Jo Hey Jo, you're probably right, but the only thing I can think of is that this will probably never get momentum if I turn out to be the only one using it. I'm not really argumenting against this, I sometimes fail to see the point of uncommon tagging. So usefulness seems low. However, we need something more suitable for this type of POI's tx. Glenn Op 3 maart 2013 15:37 schreef Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be het volgende: On 03/03/2013 10:37 AM, Gilbert Hersschens wrote: Glen, ik vrees dat dit geen goede keuze is. In het Engels is een office in de context van gezondheidszorg de doctor's office en geen kantoor in de klassieke betekenis. Dit blijkt ook uit de omschrijving bij http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0#health_facility:type.3D.2A . Klopt, Maar ik had al zoveel gespamd die dag dat ik het niet had achter gestuurd, uiteindelijk was die idd ook niet erop. Blijkbaar kent de rest van de wereld niet echt de betekenis van een mutualiteit. Uiteindelijk is het maar dit geworden, idioot maar dat past het nog beste bij: name=CM Zemst office=insurance operator=Christelijke Mutualiteit ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag for 'mutualiteiten' ?
I've been tagging those mailboxes where one can drop off notes with 'yellow' stickers on them, but only with note= tags up to now. I'd like to see a standard way of tagging those as well. Jo 2013/3/4 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com You could document it on Hoe map ik een. I'm willing to add it to the Benelux presets . Both will hopefully lead to a common tagging in Belgium. As far as I know the CM offices are not tagged that often yet. At least when there is some form of standard tagging for it, it is easy to adapt it to another standard, in case a more popular appears one day. m On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be wrote: On 03/03/2013 03:49 PM, Jo wrote: What about health_insurance? If there is no proper tag yet, it's allowed to add new ones. It's better to do that and document it, than to use one that means something different. Jo Hey Jo, you're probably right, but the only thing I can think of is that this will probably never get momentum if I turn out to be the only one using it. I'm not really argumenting against this, I sometimes fail to see the point of uncommon tagging. So usefulness seems low. However, we need something more suitable for this type of POI's tx. Glenn Op 3 maart 2013 15:37 schreef Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be het volgende: On 03/03/2013 10:37 AM, Gilbert Hersschens wrote: Glen, ik vrees dat dit geen goede keuze is. In het Engels is een office in de context van gezondheidszorg de doctor's office en geen kantoor in de klassieke betekenis. Dit blijkt ook uit de omschrijving bij http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0#health_facility:type.3D.2A . Klopt, Maar ik had al zoveel gespamd die dag dat ik het niet had achter gestuurd, uiteindelijk was die idd ook niet erop. Blijkbaar kent de rest van de wereld niet echt de betekenis van een mutualiteit. Uiteindelijk is het maar dit geworden, idioot maar dat past het nog beste bij: name=CM Zemst office=insurance operator=Christelijke Mutualiteit ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Tag for 'mutualiteiten' ?
I use amenity=post_box operator=Christelijke Mutualiteiten so very similar to those of bpost On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: I've been tagging those mailboxes where one can drop off notes with 'yellow' stickers on them, but only with note= tags up to now. I'd like to see a standard way of tagging those as well. Jo 2013/3/4 Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com You could document it on Hoe map ik een. I'm willing to add it to the Benelux presets . Both will hopefully lead to a common tagging in Belgium. As far as I know the CM offices are not tagged that often yet. At least when there is some form of standard tagging for it, it is easy to adapt it to another standard, in case a more popular appears one day. m On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.bewrote: On 03/03/2013 03:49 PM, Jo wrote: What about health_insurance? If there is no proper tag yet, it's allowed to add new ones. It's better to do that and document it, than to use one that means something different. Jo Hey Jo, you're probably right, but the only thing I can think of is that this will probably never get momentum if I turn out to be the only one using it. I'm not really argumenting against this, I sometimes fail to see the point of uncommon tagging. So usefulness seems low. However, we need something more suitable for this type of POI's tx. Glenn Op 3 maart 2013 15:37 schreef Glenn Plas gl...@byte-consult.be het volgende: On 03/03/2013 10:37 AM, Gilbert Hersschens wrote: Glen, ik vrees dat dit geen goede keuze is. In het Engels is een office in de context van gezondheidszorg de doctor's office en geen kantoor in de klassieke betekenis. Dit blijkt ook uit de omschrijving bij http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Healthcare_2.0#health_facility:type.3D.2A . Klopt, Maar ik had al zoveel gespamd die dag dat ik het niet had achter gestuurd, uiteindelijk was die idd ook niet erop. Blijkbaar kent de rest van de wereld niet echt de betekenis van een mutualiteit. Uiteindelijk is het maar dit geworden, idioot maar dat past het nog beste bij: name=CM Zemst office=insurance operator=Christelijke Mutualiteit ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: On 02/03/13 16:17, Erik Johansson wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: So - *must* you make your database of user-sourced geodata available to the OSM community? I answer no, so long as it resulted from a produced work and This feel very iffy, I thought this had been disproven already, I might be wrong, but that would mean that the ODBL is really totally useless. You have obviously given this much thought so I'm interested Map data copyright does not magically disappear just because you print it with a free map design. When doing methodical extraction of geo data, you are not copying the produced work, but the map data so it is still a copy of a copyrigthed database. [..] The ODbL definition of a produced work specifically includes images, and its definition of conveying the database specifically excludes produced works. In the discussion on legal-talk back in October, everyone seemed to agree that this means that produced works do not have to be licensed under ODbL. If they are not (and they usually aren't), then of course nothing derived from the produced work is either. I will reiterate, as long as you treat our data as a DB it will have to be licensed as ODbL, all produced works from ODbL data should include an attribution stating that it has information licensed under ODbL (see section 4.3a). I don't think that thread will make me change my mind but I will read it and try to spot any mistake on my part. /Erik ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map
Hello, Personally, I think this does leave a loophole where you could reverse engineer OSM's data from imagery, but as I said at the time, I'm not worried about it because so much accuracy would be lost. In any case, Technically, it is possible to export in a format where accuracy is 100% preserved, e.g. any vectorized format like PDF or SVG. If you export all tags in a concatenated text string, your map is maybe not readable for humans but you could in this way rebuild the full database under a new license... Yes it is, but is it defendable? I mean could then anyone prove in court that it is a work resulting from and not the Database itself? It would take a few more steps (eg. arrange some inbetween maps to lose the trace) to do it on purpose, I think. For me this is more a question of using 'normal' tiles to make just another map, and I don't see there's a way to prohibit it in ODbL. Sincerely, Tadeusz Knapik ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map
Am 04.03.2013 11:29, schrieb Tadeusz Knapik: How come? ODbL doesn't enforce PW's license - if Produced Work is licenced Public Domain, how do you reach somebody who used this PD Produced Work to credit OSM? Sincerely, This is patently wrong, see ODbL 1.0 paragraph 4.3 (http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/). It is true that the OBbL does not prescribe a specific licence for produced works, however it -does- require the conditions in 4.3 to be adhered to. Simon ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map
On 04/03/13 11:53, Pieren wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: Personally, I think this does leave a loophole where you could reverse engineer OSM's data from imagery, but as I said at the time, I'm not worried about it because so much accuracy would be lost. In any case, Technically, it is possible to export in a format where accuracy is 100% preserved, e.g. any vectorized format like PDF or SVG. If you export all tags in a concatenated text string, your map is maybe not readable for humans but you could in this way rebuild the full database under a new license... That was touched on last time round, yes. Giving someone a vector-format image might count as conveying a database. I think it's ambiguous. The ODbL essentially treats images and databases as though one thing can never be both. It's another thing that could usefully be clarified in a future version, IMO. J. -- Dr Jonathan Harley :Managing Director: SpiffyMap Ltd m...@spiffymap.com Phone: 0845 313 8457 www.spiffymap.com The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ, UK ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map
Am 04.03.2013 13:39, schrieb Jonathan Harley: On 04/03/13 11:53, Pieren wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: Personally, I think this does leave a loophole where you could reverse engineer OSM's data from imagery, but as I said at the time, I'm not worried about it because so much accuracy would be lost. In any case, Technically, it is possible to export in a format where accuracy is 100% preserved, e.g. any vectorized format like PDF or SVG. If you export all tags in a concatenated text string, your map is maybe not readable for humans but you could in this way rebuild the full database under a new license... That was touched on last time round, yes. Giving someone a vector-format image might count as conveying a database. I think it's ambiguous. The ODbL essentially treats images and databases as though one thing can never be both. It's another thing that could usefully be clarified in a future version, IMO. There is legal precedent that a map can be both an image (on paper) and a database (don't forget that we are not discussing databases in a technical sense). In the end if something like this went to court it is likely that it would be judged on the intent, not on technicalities. Simon ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map
Hello All! Again thank you for all your feedback. Unfortunately after the feedback that I have gotten so far on my initial 4 use-cases, and the 4 extra sub-use-cases I added later, I still do not know for sure if the use-cases I presented would trigger the ODbL share alike clause or not. My confusion about this has though forced me, over the last weeks, to dig a lot deeper into the licenses and rules surrounding our map than I have ever done before as a contributor and a casual user. It is obvious that there still is a lot of discussion going on on how to interpret the license and what cases of copying and use, should trigger the share alike and attribute clauses, and what should not. I would like to argue that a lot of these questions are no longer open for debate. The set of rules that the redaction bot followed, to enable the license change, is by the bots work now coded into the history of our database in such a way that changing them would force us to revert the entire license change. I would suspect (I am no lawyer) that if a license dispute about OSM ever end up in court, we will not be able to argue for more copyright protection than what we gave to those contributors who did not want the license to change. I would also like to argue that, when a question comes in if a user can or can not do something without breaching our copyright, we should always start the discussion by looking for similar examples in our own change to the ODbL. I have searched for these rules, but I have not found them, at least not in the form of a list that clearly states, This is the final list of rules that the reduction bot is based upon, preferably with references to relevant sections of the bots source code. Where can I find the final version of the source code for the redaction bot that was run to do the license change? Help in finding these would be appreciated. I know about these: What is clean (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/What_is_clean%3F), are these the rules the bot is based on? Some code, but it states that it is only an example ( https://github.com/zerebubuth/openstreetmap-license-change ) As I said in an earlier posting: As far as I understand our license change, it can be described as this: (Please correct me if I am wrong) All objects that had an edit history where someone not willing to change the license (decliner) had edited anything was reverted back in history until no edits by any decliner where left, thereby creating a clean database. All cleaning operations where based on data history in the database. This could also be described as: A user has the full copyright to any point they add to the map that they add regardless of surrounding data. Left out examples of multiple users, The page What is clean talks about The Safe Approach, This is what I think I know so far, based on what I have read over the last weeks so I can not give links for reference, and if I am wrong, please correct me: The only copyright taken into account by the redaction bot is what is stored in the history of the database for a point. Redaction bot All cleaning operations where based on data history in the database. I am currently spending a lot of time thinking about the license and what can be considered copying, derived works etc. I just realized that there is one recent event that sets an unprecedented precedence in how to look upon these questions, it is of course our own recent license change to ODbL. sourcecode, get rules direct linear history of the database edits As I understand our license change, it can be described as this: (Please correct me if I am wrong) All objects that had an edit history where someone not willing to change the license (decliner) had edited anything was reverted back in history until no edits by any decliner where left, thereby creating a clean database. All cleaning operations where based on data history in the database. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova
Hello Michael, Just to let you know that I never heard back from anyone on the issue of the road data for Kosovo. I am not sure how things work, but I was very unhappy that all that data was removed after hundreds of work hours made by many volunteers in Kosova to update the original dataset which was coming from a dated source. Now I see the maps has a lost of new roads but the old dataset is not incorporated, so not sure if anything can be done at all if there's a possibility to combine something. Any advise, recommendation would be welcome. Best, Bekim On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Hi Bekim, If nobody else gives you feedback I will do so next week. I am away at the moment. Regards, Michael Collinson On 20 Sep 2012, at 19:11, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mike, Hopefully someone will send some feedback. Best, Bekim On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I dont understand that myself, it seems a bit fuzzy to me but this is the right mailing list and I hope you will get some feedback, thanks mike On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Ok but I don't know how to go about and do that! That's my problem. Where is the starting point? I am ready to approve, sign, confirm anything required! Best, Bekim On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Bekim, I have been working on understanding the new license even today. it is cc-by-sa + database rights (odbl) + the right for osm to change the licence at will in the future. basically you need to grant the osm the rights to use the data, Michael can give you more info about this, thanks, mike On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Gent's, Some days ago I noticed that all those detailed roads that were on OSM in Kosova were removed. Does anyone have any information, like when? why? were removed. I am about to contact OSM and any assistance and additional information is welcome! Best, Bekim -- about.me/bekim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GIS Kosova group. To post to this group, send email to gis-kos...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gis-kosova+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gis-kosova?hl=en. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- about.me/bekim -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- about.me/bekim -- about.me/bekim ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map
Hello All! Forgive me for the previous unfinished version of this mail, here is the complete version. Again thank you for all your feedback. Unfortunately after the feedback that I have gotten so far on my initial 4 use-cases, and the 4 extra sub-use-cases I added later, I still do not know for sure if the use-cases I presented would trigger the ODbL share alike clause or not. My confusion about this has though forced me, over the last weeks, to dig a lot deeper into the licenses and rules surrounding our map than I have ever done before as a contributor and a casual user. It is obvious that there still is a lot of discussion going on on how to interpret the license and what cases of copying and use, should trigger the share alike and attribute clauses, and what should not. I would like to argue that a lot of these questions are no longer open for debate. The set of rules that the redaction bot followed, to enable the license change, is by the bots work now coded into the history of our database in such a way that changing them would force us to revert the entire license change. I would suspect (I am no lawyer) that if a license dispute about OSM ever end up in court, we will not be able to argue for more copyright protection than what we gave to those contributors who did not want the license to change. I would also like to argue that, when a question comes in if a user can or can not do something without breaching our copyright, we should always start the discussion by looking for similar examples in our own change to the ODbL. I have searched for these rules, but I have not found them, at least not in the form of a list that clearly states, This is the final list of rules that the reduction bot is based upon, preferably with references to relevant sections of the bots source code. Where can I find the final version of the source code for the redaction bot that was run to do the license change? Help in finding these would be appreciated. I know about these: What is clean (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/What_is_clean%3F), are these the rules the bot is based on? Some code, but it states that it is only an example ( https://github.com/zerebubuth/openstreetmap-license-change ) As I said in an earlier posting: As far as I understand our license change, it can be described as this: (Please correct me if I am wrong) All objects that had an edit history where someone not willing to change the license (decliner) had edited anything was reverted back in history until no edits by any decliner where left, thereby creating a clean database. All cleaning operations where based on data history in the database. This could also be described as: A user has the full copyright to any point they add to the map that they add regardless of surrounding data. If I now look upon my initial use-case questions again and but this time start by looking for similarities in our license change and the set of rules it was based upon, what conclusions do I reach? (As always correct me if I assume anything about the license change that is incorrect.) 1. If we present an OSM map to the user let them click on the map and use the coordinates they clicked on as part of the meta-data for a place in our application, will the resulting database be considered a derived database? To clarify, we would not extract any information from the map, beside the coordinates that the user clicked on, they would by themselves navigate the map to for example London and then click somewhere in London. If a user adds a point to OSM they have full copyright over that point and are free to also add the same point to another database, or as in this case, only add the point to another db. We as a community can not claim any copyright over this point even though our map is used as a base for the placement of the point. We get to claim no copyright here as we gave no copyright to decliners where their data made up the base map on which we added our points before the license change. 2. If we use the overpass API to find possible matches for a placename entered by a user, present the possible matches with markers on a map and let the user click on the map and use the coordinates the user clicks on, will the resulting database be considered a derived database? Again, we would not extract any information from the map, beside the coordinates that the user clicked on. Presenting the markers would of course help the user find a place, such as London. As long as the presenting of alternatives does not directly expose the underlying point from the OSM db, for example by clicking on a marker and thereby copying the exact coordinates from the db, than this is basically same as 1. If the coordinates are copied, it would be a case where the share alike clause should kick in. I do not see that case 3 and 4 change in the light of our own license change. Comments? /Olov
[OSM-legal-talk] produced work vs. derivative db
after reading all the documents/wiki/mailinglist I am still confused: what forces producers to publish a derivative database and not just produced work? usecase: a user takes a substantial part of osm db, hand modifies it (eg changes name of a street to correct one, make a new hiking route ...) and then publishes it as an online tilemap/printed map. claiming it to be a produced work under a commercial licence. is it a produced work? is it also a derivative database? (if so, which odbl clause kicks in to state this?) thanks michal -- michal palenik www.freemap.sk www.oma.sk http://wiki.freemap.sk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] produced work vs. derivative db
On 04/03/13 16:53, Michal Palenik wrote: after reading all the documents/wiki/mailinglist I am still confused: what forces producers to publish a derivative database and not just produced work? Clause 4.6 of the ODbL, which says if you publish a produced work you must make the database it was produced from available. usecase: a user takes a substantial part of osm db, hand modifies it (eg changes name of a street to correct one, make a new hiking route ...) and then publishes it as an online tilemap/printed map. claiming it to be a produced work under a commercial licence. is it a produced work? The online tilemap and printed map are a produced work. is it also a derivative database? (if so, which odbl clause kicks in to state this?) The database is a derivative database as defined in the definitions section. Correcting names and adding hiking routes which connect with OSM's data is exactly the sort of data the share-alike clause is intended to capture. thanks michal HTH! Jonathan. -- Dr Jonathan Harley :Managing Director: SpiffyMap Ltd m...@spiffymap.com Phone: 0845 313 8457 www.spiffymap.com The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ, UK ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] produced work vs. derivative db
may i add a question into faq/use cases: Q: I want to publish a slippy map/printed map based on OSM data. Is it a produced work or derivated database? A: The slippy map itself is a produced work, however the database you used has to meet the same requirements as published derived database or a collective database. In other words, publishing this produced work implies that you have the same obligations as when publishing the database itself. or a better wording. which would clarify the odbl-ty of the data. On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 05:15:04PM +, Jonathan Harley wrote: On 04/03/13 16:53, Michal Palenik wrote: after reading all the documents/wiki/mailinglist I am still confused: what forces producers to publish a derivative database and not just produced work? Clause 4.6 of the ODbL, which says if you publish a produced work you must make the database it was produced from available. usecase: a user takes a substantial part of osm db, hand modifies it (eg changes name of a street to correct one, make a new hiking route ...) and then publishes it as an online tilemap/printed map. claiming it to be a produced work under a commercial licence. is it a produced work? The online tilemap and printed map are a produced work. is it also a derivative database? (if so, which odbl clause kicks in to state this?) The database is a derivative database as defined in the definitions section. Correcting names and adding hiking routes which connect with OSM's data is exactly the sort of data the share-alike clause is intended to capture. thanks michal HTH! Jonathan. -- Dr Jonathan Harley :Managing Director: SpiffyMap Ltd m...@spiffymap.com Phone: 0845 313 8457 www.spiffymap.com The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ, UK ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk -- michal palenik www.freemap.sk www.oma.sk http://wiki.freemap.sk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova
I cannot help you bekim, It seems that the licensing is a lost cause. I for one have stopped wasting time on it. mike On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Michael, Just to let you know that I never heard back from anyone on the issue of the road data for Kosovo. I am not sure how things work, but I was very unhappy that all that data was removed after hundreds of work hours made by many volunteers in Kosova to update the original dataset which was coming from a dated source. Now I see the maps has a lost of new roads but the old dataset is not incorporated, so not sure if anything can be done at all if there's a possibility to combine something. Any advise, recommendation would be welcome. Best, Bekim On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Hi Bekim, If nobody else gives you feedback I will do so next week. I am away at the moment. Regards, Michael Collinson On 20 Sep 2012, at 19:11, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mike, Hopefully someone will send some feedback. Best, Bekim On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I dont understand that myself, it seems a bit fuzzy to me but this is the right mailing list and I hope you will get some feedback, thanks mike On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Ok but I don't know how to go about and do that! That's my problem. Where is the starting point? I am ready to approve, sign, confirm anything required! Best, Bekim On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Bekim, I have been working on understanding the new license even today. it is cc-by-sa + database rights (odbl) + the right for osm to change the licence at will in the future. basically you need to grant the osm the rights to use the data, Michael can give you more info about this, thanks, mike On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Gent's, Some days ago I noticed that all those detailed roads that were on OSM in Kosova were removed. Does anyone have any information, like when? why? were removed. I am about to contact OSM and any assistance and additional information is welcome! Best, Bekim -- about.me/bekim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GIS Kosova group. To post to this group, send email to gis-kos...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to gis-kosova+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gis-kosova?hl=en. -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- about.me/bekim -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 -- about.me/bekim -- about.me/bekim -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance
Hi again,
I've now moved to an 8-core VM with 32Gb of RAM, which has made
certain operations faster, but processing the stylesheets and
beginning rendering still seems to be very slow.
Some numbers: from the moment I hit 'save' at zoom 13 in the centre of
Melbourne:
1. at 1:05 , the spinning icon stops (I assume this means the
stylesheets have been saved and processed)
2. at 2:15, the first tile appears
3. at 2:35, all visible tiles are rendered
.
During this process, there's almost no database activity - all queries
are handled very quickly.
Turning off every layer (so just rendering background-color):
1 0:48, spinning icon stops (tilemill-ui at just over 100% until now)
2. 1:45, first tile appears, (tilemill-tile around 100% until now).
3. 1:46 all tiles
This cluster has had problems with slow file I/O in the past, so
wonder if that's the likely result?
By contrast, a simple project with simple stylesheet saves and renders
almost instantly (1s).
The styles are here: https://github.com/stevage/stevebikemap
What I'd love to know:
1) What is happening for the first 50 seconds? Does TileMill really
take that long to parse 5 smallish stylesheets and convert them into
mapnik styles? If it sounds like a bug, I'm happy to investigate
further...
2) What exactly is happening in step 2? I don't know Mapnik at all, so
I'm just guessing that it's doing pre-computation like loading all the
objects and their styles, computing z-orders, resolving conflicts
between labels etc. Still this seems slow?
3) Why is step 2 so slow even when every layer is invisible?
4) Is there any way to increase the number of threads/processes, to
get more advantage from the 8 cores?
Hmm, with further investigation, it seems almost all the time is going
into the 'areas.mss' style. Commenting it out reduces the whole
save/render cycle to just 7 seconds (from 155!)
As an example:
#areas[zoom13][leisure=pitch],
#areas[zoom13][leisure=golf_course],
#areas[zoom13][landuse=cemetery] {
line-color:darken(green,5%);
line-width:1;
line-opacity:0.2;
polygon-fill:#bdb;
}
Rendering that one rule takes an additional 7 seconds (ie, 14 seconds
instead of 7, including saving/processing time), even at zoom 13, when
it's not even being applied. Making the #areas layer invisible had no
effect on rendering time. I guess I can further decompose these db
queries (#landuse, #leisure...), but is there anything else I can do
to speed them up? Is this normal?
Thanks again for any information,
Steve
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
(First - is this the right list to discuss using TileMill? I can
only find the MapBox support form, or gis.stackexchange.)
I'm having some problems with TileMill rendering very slowly.
Sometimes it seizes up altogether, until I restart it or reboot the
server. This seems to happen particularly when I frequently interrupt
rendering by saving the stylesheet again.
My setup is a 2-core, 8Gb Ubuntu VM running on an OpenStack cluster.
PostGIS (with Melbourne city data from bbbike.org), nginx for auth,
and one shapefile. Pretty vanilla.
I have a few questions about how to improve speed in TileMill/Mapnik:
1) In general, what kinds of rendering rules are slow? Does the way
you specify a rule affect the speed? (eg, is [zoom13] { #ways[...] }
slower/faster than #ways[...][zoom13] ?)
2) How does caching take place? It seems to me that when saving a
stylesheet with changes, there's a long delay before anything renders,
then subsequent small changes aren't too slow. So some layers are
computed once then reused?
3) Are there any easy tips for tuning the database?
4) Or tuning TileMill/Mapnik?
5) Watching 'top' during a render, it doesn't look like much memory is
being used. Is there a way to trade memory for speed?
6) Does setting a layer invisible definitely prevent it being
computed? Sometimes I think I'm going mad...
7) Lastly,will adding cores lead to a proportional increase in speed?
Thanks very much in advance,
Steve
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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: effect on rendering time. I guess I can further decompose these db queries (#landuse, #leisure...), but is there anything else I can do to speed them up? Is this normal? Ok, yes, that's apparently what you need to do - with 21 layers, I'm now under 7 seconds for a full render. I wish there was a more elegant way though :/ Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] TileMill performance
I have found some combinations of stylesheet rules that suddenly cause the carto to take a long time to generate, however I've not managed to find a very small version that exhibits the issue: https://github.com/mapbox/carto/issues/213 The generated mapnik XML often isn't as compact as it could be. Shaun On 4 Mar 2013, at 08:21, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: effect on rendering time. I guess I can further decompose these db queries (#landuse, #leisure...), but is there anything else I can do to speed them up? Is this normal? Ok, yes, that's apparently what you need to do - with 21 layers, I'm now under 7 seconds for a full render. I wish there was a more elegant way though :/ Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] achavi - Augmented Change Viewer [alpha]
Thanks for the feedback and sorry for the late response. Am 28.02.2013 13:57, schrieb Janko Mihelić: I only saw this now, this looks like a beautiful tool. The interface is a bit new to me, I guess I have to get used to it. Also, colors are a bit hard to distinguish for a color blinded person. I suggest using dashes for modified ways, or something like that. Right now the control and status bars are a bit technical and popup behaviour is incomplete. Improving colors is also on the todo list, the idea is to have a choice of themes to better suit people's needs and preferences. Is there a plan to make the limit of 24 hours bigger? I don't think it would make much sense to scan minutely augmented diffs for longer periods, I find it already a bit of an overkill. There are some options though, but as the new OWL History Tab/-Viewer is going to provide a similar feature, I'm not sure whether to continue in that direction or to focus on short-term and live viewing. Norbert 2013/2/23 Norbert Renner iko...@gmx.de mailto:iko...@gmx.de Hi, here is a first alpha version of a change viewer based on Overpass API Augmented Diffs: http://overpass-api.de/achavi/ See about and help for information. The code is on GitHub [1]. There are still a lot of obvious features missing and it has some bugs, but maybe you find it already useful. Many thanks to Roland Olbricht for providing the Augmented Diffs and being very supportive. Norbert [1] https://github.com/nrenner/__achavi https://github.com/nrenner/achavi _ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.__org/listinfo/talk http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Missing Bing Imagery in Parts of Costa Rica
Recently I had the opportunity to visit Costa Rica. When attempting to add detail to a hotel/hot springs I discovered that Bing didn't have images for the area. The images were missing from Potlatch/JOSM as well as Bing Maps. Bing personal confirmed with me that they had no images for the area. Additionally, high resolution images are not available in all parts of the country. Does anyone know if there are any high resolution images usable in OSM that we can use? The available imagery providers in JOSM didn't provide any real usable backgrounds. BTW - I did take some gps traces, but only the main road. I figured once I had access to internet I'd be able to add in building and other details. I was surprised to find no images at all. -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Admin-Grenzen exportieren als Shapefiles
@Roland, vielen Dank für den Hinweis! Das QGIS OSM Plugin zusammen mit der Overpass-Abfrage sollte mich eigentlich ans Ziel bringen. @Fabian: Danke für das Angebot. Ich denke, wenn ich es in QGIS hinkriege, erübrigt sich das. Ansonsten komme ich gerne darauf zurück. Viele Grüße Marian ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Hallo, ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Formulierung, mit welcher eine Gemeinde dem Projekt OSM die Nutzung von georeferenzierten Daten erlaubt. Gibt es dafür Bespiele? Eine Suche in den Archiven und im Wiki hat leider nichts ergeben. Rainer ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Am 4. März 2013 11:47 schrieb RainerU ra...@sfr.fr: Hallo, ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Formulierung, mit welcher eine Gemeinde dem Projekt OSM die Nutzung von georeferenzierten Daten erlaubt. Gibt es dafür Bespiele? Eine Suche in den Archiven und im Wiki hat leider nichts ergeben. Am Besten ist es, wenn die Gemeinde die Daten allgemein freigibt, d.h. wenn die Erlaubnis nicht nur auf OSM bezogen ist. Ein Beispiel auf italienisch kenne ich im Wiki, wo die Nutzung eines WMS-Servers gestattet wird zum Abzeichnen in OSM. Der Text ist relativ kurz: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:ITALY_Auth_portale_cartografico_nazionale.png Auf Deutsch in etwa (der Sinn sollte durchscheinen auch wenn die Übersetzung etwas frei ist): Bezugnehmend auf die Anfrage zur Nutzung der Daten die auf dem Portal PCN zur Verfügung gestellt werden, und angesichts dessen, dass das Projekt OpenStreetMap eine Datensammlung durchführt, die auch der wissenschaftlichen Gemeinschaft dient und den Nutzern erlaubt, die Datenbank zu aktualisieren, wird OSM autorisiert, die Luftbilder über die WMS-Schnittstelle des PCN abzuzeichnen. Die Anfrage und weitere Informationen auf italienisch findest Du hier: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Italy/PCN http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgjsbdtx_74hwxzs5gd Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Keypad-Mapper 3 ist erschienen - effizientes Erfassen von Hausnummern
Hallo, wir planen derzeit die nächste Version vom Keypad-Mapper. Sie soll dieses Jahr noch erscheinen. Ich habe die Idee mit der Audio-Note in die Wiki-Wunschliste mit aufgenommen: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Keypad-Mapper_3 Viele Grüße Markus59 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Hallo Rainer, in welchem Bundesland bzw. Staat möchtest Du die Anfragen stellen? Welche georeferenzierten Daten? Joachim (Ansprechpartner der deutschen OSM-Community für Behörden) Am 04.03.2013 12:09, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 4. März 2013 11:47 schrieb RainerU ra...@sfr.fr: Hallo, ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Formulierung, mit welcher eine Gemeinde dem Projekt OSM die Nutzung von georeferenzierten Daten erlaubt. Gibt es dafür Bespiele? Eine Suche in den Archiven und im Wiki hat leider nichts ergeben. Am Besten ist es, wenn die Gemeinde die Daten allgemein freigibt, d.h. wenn die Erlaubnis nicht nur auf OSM bezogen ist. Ein Beispiel auf italienisch kenne ich im Wiki, wo die Nutzung eines WMS-Servers gestattet wird zum Abzeichnen in OSM. Der Text ist relativ kurz: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:ITALY_Auth_portale_cartografico_nazionale.png Auf Deutsch in etwa (der Sinn sollte durchscheinen auch wenn die Übersetzung etwas frei ist): Bezugnehmend auf die Anfrage zur Nutzung der Daten die auf dem Portal PCN zur Verfügung gestellt werden, und angesichts dessen, dass das Projekt OpenStreetMap eine Datensammlung durchführt, die auch der wissenschaftlichen Gemeinschaft dient und den Nutzern erlaubt, die Datenbank zu aktualisieren, wird OSM autorisiert, die Luftbilder über die WMS-Schnittstelle des PCN abzuzeichnen. Die Anfrage und weitere Informationen auf italienisch findest Du hier: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Italy/PCN http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgjsbdtx_74hwxzs5gd Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Hallo Joachim, Am 04.03.2013 18:45, schrieb Joachim Kast: in welchem Bundesland bzw. Staat möchtest Du die Anfragen stellen? Es geht um Frankreich. Über die französische Community habe ich zwar ein paar nützliche Tipps zum Thema Opendata bekommen, aber eben keinen Textvorschlag für eine derartige Vereinbarung. Der Vorschlag auf der Wiki-Seite zum Datenimport[1] ist mir zu knapp: The #ORGANISATION# has no objections to geodata derived in part from #DATASET# being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap project geodata database and released under a free and open license Ich stelle mir noch ein paar Sätze darüber, was mit der Datenbank gemacht werden kann/darf, und zum Thema Attribution vor. Welche georeferenzierten Daten? Georeferenziert war nicht ganz korrekt von mir. Es geht um eine Straßenliste mit den Straßennamen auf Französisch und Katalanisch. Über die bereits vollständig erfassten französischen Straßennamen können wir damit den OSM-Objekten die katalanischen Namen zuweisen. Gruß Rainer [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Keypad-Mapper 3 ist erschienen - effizientes Erfassen von Hausnummern
Am 2013-03-04 12:45, schrieb Markus Semm: Ich habe die Idee mit der Audio-Note in die Wiki-Wunschliste mit aufgenommen: wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Keypad-Mapper_3 Ich danke herzlich. Lg Christian ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Hallo Rainer, ich habe mir gerade noch die Beiträge auf [Talk-fr] durchgelesen. Bei diesem Spezialfall würde ich versuchen, für die Straßenlisten eine Nutzungsgenehmigung in folgender Form zu bekommen: Die Gemeinde ... gestattet die Verwendung der Straßenliste zur Qualitätskontrolle und dauerhaften Erweiterung des OpenStreetMap-Datenbestandes. Mit der Verwaltung sollte man im Vorfeld offen reden, was wir mit den OSM-Daten so alles machen. Die Resonanz ist allerdings sehr unterschiedlich. Sowas geht bestimmt nicht von heute auf morgen, da es bestimmt auch einiger verwaltungsinterner Abstimmungen bedarf. Da es die Homepage der Stadt auch in einer katalanischen Fassung gibt, vermute ich, dass es seitens der Stadt Interesse an einem katalanischen Stadtplan geben könnte, zumal der Tourismusverband nur Google Maps hat. Sind in Perpignan zweisprachige Straßenschilder montiert? Grüße Joachim ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Hallo Rainer, On 04.03.2013 11:47, RainerU wrote: ich bin auf der Suche nach einer Formulierung, mit welcher eine Gemeinde dem Projekt OSM die Nutzung von georeferenzierten Daten erlaubt. Gibt es dafür Bespiele? Eine Suche in den Archiven und im Wiki hat leider nichts ergeben. du musst auf jeden Fall sicherstellen, dass die Daten unter der jetzigen ODbL *UND* unter jeder anderen gemäß Contributor Terms möglichen Lizenz freigegeben wird. Sonst haben wir bei einem möglichen Lizenzwechsel in der Zukunft wieder das Theater mit Löschen von Daten und dem damit verbundenen Ärger. Also am besten die Daten als PD freigeben lassen, falls das nicht möglich ist eine abgewandelte Form der Contributor Terms unterschreiben lassen. http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms Stephan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Hallo Joachim, Sind in Perpignan zweisprachige Straßenschilder montiert? Nein, die waren glaub französisch. Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mustertext für Datenspende
Hallo Joachim, Am 04.03.2013 23:14, schrieb Joachim Kast: Sind in Perpignan zweisprachige Straßenschilder montiert? Ja, und es ist auch schon einiges erfasst worden [1]. Ich denke, im konkreten Fall werden wir die Daten ohne große Probleme bekommen. Ich habe das Thema nur deshalb so hoch aufgehängt, weil es eventuell der Einstieg in ein umfangreicheres Programm der Datenüberlassung sein könnte. In Frankreich sind der Staat und einige Städte beim Thema Open Data ja schon recht weit. So stellt z.B. die Stadt Montpellier Geodaten zu Themen wie Radwege und Behindertenparkplätze unter LO/OL-Lizenz zur Verfügung. Das Ziel der lokalen OSM-Gruppe ist es, auch die hiesigen Behörden in diese Richtung zu bewegen. Grüße Rainer [1] http://mlm.jochentopf.com/?zoom=17lat=42.69931lon=2.89611layers=B0Tlang=ca [2] http://opendata.montpelliernumerique.fr/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Cucina nei bar
Il giorno 03 marzo 2013 21:03, Gianluca Boero gianlucabo...@alice.it ha scritto: Credevo di inserire cuisine=yes ma il wiki non lo prevede, almeno mi pare. Sarebbe meglio inserire cuisine=italian in mancanza di cucina tipica? In generale, direi di si. Ovviamente una tavola calda non è un ristorante, ma non credo che al momento si possa distinguere meglio -- Maurizio Daniele - maurizio.daniele (a) gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Cucina nei bar
Am 04/mar/2013 um 09:38 schrieb Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com: Ovviamente una tavola calda non è un ristorante, si, ma se metti cuisine=italian o regional ad un amenity=bar invece che un amenity=restaurant questo dovrebbe essere chiaro. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-FVG] Invito a presentare OSM al Linux Arena c/o Fiera Radioamatore Pn
mi sembra una buona occasione per pubblicizzare OSM, spero che qualcuno ci vada Probabilmente vado io. Se qualcun altro vuol dare una mano è il benvenuto. Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Partendo dal presupposto che la mappatura montana e' completamente diversa dalla mappatura di citta', sia per tag che per punti di riferimento, volevo avere qualche cartuccia da sparare per invogliare i soci a mappare in montagna. Quindi oltre alle solite slide di presentazione, volevo qualche consiglio/argomento da chi di voi va in montagna e mappa. Per ora mi hanno offerto di fare delle tracce GPX di alcuni sentieri, ma volevo qualcosa di piu': non posso stampare dei walking papers per le zone montane! Sarebbero quasi tutti bianchi... Come fare? Grazie a tutti in anticipo per le risposte Fabrizio ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Il 04/03/2013 13:49, Fabrizio Tambussa ha scritto: Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Grande!!! Partendo dal presupposto che la mappatura montana e' completamente diversa dalla mappatura di citta', sia per tag che per punti di riferimento, volevo avere qualche cartuccia da sparare per invogliare i soci a mappare in montagna. Quindi oltre alle solite slide di presentazione, volevo qualche consiglio/argomento da chi di voi va in montagna e mappa. Per ora mi hanno offerto di fare delle tracce GPX di alcuni sentieri, ma volevo qualcosa di piu': non posso stampare dei walking papers per le zone montane! Sarebbero quasi tutti bianchi... Come fare? Grazie a tutti in anticipo per le risposte Fabrizio Porta come esempio la zona del Monviso, che al momento risulta abbastanza coperta ma se ne trovi altre fuori regione segnalale liberamente.. Manca qualcosina ma la stragrande maggioranza dei sentieri e dei laghi sono presenti. Ricorda che in montagna il gps può avere una ricezione sfasata, magari sotto alberi, rocce che impediscono l'afflusso dei dati. Non devi dirlo ad iscritti al Cai :-) ma chi registra una traccia in montagna non dovrebbe fermarsi a prendere fiato, in quanto si può creare il classico fiocco di nodi. Anche secondo me le WP non sono adatte per la montagna, difficilmente attuabili. Cosa importante è segnalare tutti i waypoint possibili ma soprattutto cosa molto rilevante le fontane, naturali o artificiali che siano. Questo deve essere quasi la prima regola :-) Poi segnalare i rifugi, bivacchi ecc. E poi su di un taccuino segnalare la viabilità e la visibilità del sentiero. Successivamente utilizzando la Sac Scale bisogna inserire la caratteristica, cioè sentiero tracciato, visibile, non segnalato ecc ecc. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Il 04/03/2013 14:05, Gianluca Boero ha scritto: Porta come esempio la zona del Monviso, che al momento risulta abbastanza coperta ma se ne trovi altre fuori regione segnalale liberamente.. Manca qualcosina ma la stragrande maggioranza dei sentieri e dei laghi sono presenti. Ricorda che in montagna il gps può avere una ricezione sfasata, magari sotto alberi, rocce che impediscono l'afflusso dei dati. Non devi dirlo ad iscritti al Cai :-) ma chi registra una traccia in montagna non dovrebbe fermarsi a prendere fiato, in quanto si può creare il classico fiocco di nodi. Anche secondo me le WP non sono adatte per la montagna, difficilmente attuabili. Cosa importante è segnalare tutti i waypoint possibili ma soprattutto cosa molto rilevante le fontane, naturali o artificiali che siano. Questo deve essere quasi la prima regola :-) Poi segnalare i rifugi, bivacchi ecc. E poi su di un taccuino segnalare la viabilità e la visibilità del sentiero. Successivamente utilizzando la Sac Scale bisogna inserire la caratteristica, cioè sentiero tracciato, visibile, non segnalato ecc ecc. Dimenticavo...una volta arrivati in cima ad una montagna un bel waypoint per identificare la cima. (natural=peak) Segnalare anche su di un taccuino (per chi magari non riesce a portarsi dietro strumenti elettronici) eventuali cartelli di località con relative altitudini (magari non saranno sempre quelle ufficiali) prestando attenzione anche ai nomi bilingue (esempio Occitano). Qui consiglio veramente di scriverli, se non uno ritorna a valle dimenticandoli. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Il giorno 04 marzo 2013 13:49, Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Grande Fabrizio! Non ho consigli da darti: non conosco la mappatura di montagna, e non sono un grande fan della montagna :-) Ma lo è la mia ragazza, e suo nonno è nel CAI qui a Vercelli, quindi se ti interessasse replicare in un'altra sede devi solo farmelo sapere! Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] R: Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
No so se posso esserti daiuto, ma io ho mappato un certo numero di sentieri nella mia zona (Luino, Va) forse puoi dare unocchiata e vedere se può interessarti. Comunque per i sentieri del CAI è molto importante inserire la numerazione del sentiero riferita al catasto nazionale dei sentieri CAI ed inoltre il grado di difficoltà. Io ho in alcuni sentieri fatto una prova nellinserire anche i cartelli, ma a mio avviso attualmente come è organizzato OSM non serve. Ciao Sergio Da: Fabrizio Tambussa [mailto:ftambu...@gmail.com] Inviato: lunedì 4 marzo 2013 13:49 A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Partendo dal presupposto che la mappatura montana e' completamente diversa dalla mappatura di citta', sia per tag che per punti di riferimento, volevo avere qualche cartuccia da sparare per invogliare i soci a mappare in montagna. Quindi oltre alle solite slide di presentazione, volevo qualche consiglio/argomento da chi di voi va in montagna e mappa. Per ora mi hanno offerto di fare delle tracce GPX di alcuni sentieri, ma volevo qualcosa di piu': non posso stampare dei walking papers per le zone montane! Sarebbero quasi tutti bianchi... Come fare? Grazie a tutti in anticipo per le risposte Fabrizio ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Grazie a tutti per i consigli molto validi. Quello del catasto dei sentieri CAI non la sapevo, pensavo esistesse solo la numerazione normale, quella da mettere nel ref=xxx Se le numerazioni differissero, potrei inserire un ref:CAI=xxx Va bene? Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 04 marzo 2013 17:02, Sergio Peduzzi sergio.pedu...@alice.it ha scritto: No so se posso esserti d’aiuto, ma io ho mappato un certo numero di sentieri nella mia zona (Luino, Va) forse puoi dare un’occhiata e vedere se può interessarti. Comunque per i sentieri del CAI è molto importante inserire la numerazione del sentiero riferita al catasto nazionale dei sentieri CAI ed inoltre il grado di difficoltà. Io ho in alcuni sentieri fatto una prova nell’inserire anche i cartelli, ma a mio avviso attualmente come è organizzato OSM non serve. Ciao Sergio ** ** *Da:* Fabrizio Tambussa [mailto:ftambu...@gmail.com] *Inviato:* lunedì 4 marzo 2013 13:49 *A:* openstreetmap list - italiano *Oggetto:* [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI ** ** Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Partendo dal presupposto che la mappatura montana e' completamente diversa dalla mappatura di citta', sia per tag che per punti di riferimento, volevo avere qualche cartuccia da sparare per invogliare i soci a mappare in montagna. Quindi oltre alle solite slide di presentazione, volevo qualche consiglio/argomento da chi di voi va in montagna e mappa. Per ora mi hanno offerto di fare delle tracce GPX di alcuni sentieri, ma volevo qualcosa di piu': non posso stampare dei walking papers per le zone montane! Sarebbero quasi tutti bianchi... Come fare? Grazie a tutti in anticipo per le risposte Fabrizio ** ** ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Il 04/03/2013 13:49, Fabrizio Tambussa ha scritto: Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Ciao Fai presente che le mappe di osm si possono caricare facilmente sui gps garmin, così è piu facile avere il gps che indica tutta la zona di interesse, rispetto a caricare dei gpx e poi visualizzarli, visto che i garmin più economici possono tenere in memoria solo 20 gpx da 500 punti. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Il 04/03/2013 17:11, Fabrizio Tambussa ha scritto: Grazie a tutti per i consigli molto validi. Quello del catasto dei sentieri CAI non la sapevo, pensavo esistesse solo la numerazione normale, quella da mettere nel ref=xxx Se le numerazioni differissero, potrei inserire un ref:CAI=xxx Va bene? Saluti Fabrizio La regione Piemonte ha il proprio catasto dei sentieri, purtroppo non sono stato in grado di leggerlo. Ora è da un po di tempo che non lo consulto. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Il giorno 04/mar/2013 13:49, Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Bravo! Partendo dal presupposto che la mappatura montana e' completamente diversa dalla mappatura di citta', sia per tag che per punti di riferimento, volevo avere qualche cartuccia da sparare per invogliare i soci a mappare in montagna. Le cartucce per invogliarli sono: - mappe gratuite per GPS - possibilità di crearsi la propria mappa Per la mappatura è importante usare le relationi (di solito hiking),usare i tag per specificare la difficoltà e la visibilità del sentiero,come punti d'interesse fontanelle,segnavia,rifugi,cime,attrazioni sono gli elementi più importanti Quindi oltre alle solite slide di presentazione, volevo qualche consiglio/argomento da chi di voi va in montagna e mappa. Come ti hanno detto attenti che la precisione del GPS potrebbe essere non ottimale Per ora mi hanno offerto di fare delle tracce GPX di alcuni sentieri, ma volevo qualcosa di piu': non posso stampare dei walking papers per le zone montane! Sarebbero quasi tutti bianchi... Come fare? Non ho ben capito, GPS ne hai diversi se non ricordo male,dagli il datalogger ;-) Grazie a tutti in anticipo per le risposte Fabrizio Ciao Luca ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
Due osservazioni: 1) Per illustrare quello che si può fare, penso che sia utile fare vedere hiking.lonvia.de. Una zona ben fatta sono i Vosges in Francia: http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=10lat=49.35575lon=7.85226base=0.8#pref 2) Io personalmente metterei explicitamente in guardia la gente che va in montagna circa i problemi di affidabilità del GPS in questo ambiente sia per la produzione di OSM sia per l'uso della parte del camminatore per orientarsi. Volker (utente di GPS anche in montagna) 2013/3/4 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com Il giorno 04/mar/2013 13:49, Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho combinato per venerdi' prossimo una presentazione di OSM alla sede locale del Club Alpino Italiano. Bravo! Partendo dal presupposto che la mappatura montana e' completamente diversa dalla mappatura di citta', sia per tag che per punti di riferimento, volevo avere qualche cartuccia da sparare per invogliare i soci a mappare in montagna. Le cartucce per invogliarli sono: - mappe gratuite per GPS - possibilità di crearsi la propria mappa Per la mappatura è importante usare le relationi (di solito hiking),usare i tag per specificare la difficoltà e la visibilità del sentiero,come punti d'interesse fontanelle,segnavia,rifugi,cime,attrazioni sono gli elementi più importanti Quindi oltre alle solite slide di presentazione, volevo qualche consiglio/argomento da chi di voi va in montagna e mappa. Come ti hanno detto attenti che la precisione del GPS potrebbe essere non ottimale Per ora mi hanno offerto di fare delle tracce GPX di alcuni sentieri, ma volevo qualcosa di piu': non posso stampare dei walking papers per le zone montane! Sarebbero quasi tutti bianchi... Come fare? Non ho ben capito, GPS ne hai diversi se non ricordo male,dagli il datalogger ;-) Grazie a tutti in anticipo per le risposte Fabrizio Ciao Luca ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI
-Original Message- From: gpstracks.it [mailto:m...@gpstracks.it] Sent: lunedì 4 marzo 2013 18:37 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-it] Consigli su presentazione OSM a sede CAI La mappa dei montanari è Lonvia, con possibilità di scaricare i gpx delle relazioni e visualizzarne il profilo altimetrico. http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/it/?zoom=12lat=46.53598lon=13.05888 Anche questa: http://www.wanderreitkarte.de/index.php?zoom=12lat=46.53598lon=13.05888 con possibilità di editare i gpx , cliccare sui POI (rifugi, ristoranti, castelli e rovine, bandierine lungo le relazioni) e richiamarne un elenco, visualizzazione di parecchi POI specifici (croci, passi, rifugi, bivacchi, ecc.), vedere i sentieri visualizzati diversamente in base alla difficoltà, possibilità di richiamare una versione specifica di Potlatch. Molto interessante come esempio anche questa, purtroppo non copre l'Italia: http://geo.dianacht.de/topo/ in questa mappa le vette hanno priorità di visualizzazione in base alla loro dominanza, dunque non capita come nelle normali mappe che, dove le cime sono fitte, quelle più importanti rischino di restare nascoste. Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-lt] Openlayers galimybės vizualizuoti?
Pavarciau interneta sia tema tai neblogas projektas http://kurgyvenu.lt/. Daugiau duomenu apie sildymo kainas yra vilniaus energijos puslapyje: http://online.dalkia.lt/saskaitos/pastatai.aspx tik neradau, kad viskas viename exls butu... 2013 m. vasaris 21 d. 13:09, Paulius Masiliūnas paulius...@gmail.com rašė: Ramūnai, pilnai tave suprantu kad tu nenoretum kad į tavo serverį bet kas bet ka kištų, aš rašydamas ta ilgą romaną, turejau tokių minčių, kad sukurti kažkokią sistemą veikiančia principu kaip tarkim WordPress. WordPress turi daug visokių plug-in, ją rašo daug žmonių, būtų faina sukūrti tokią sistemą, kur galėtum idėti plug-in arba modulius. Aišku prieš tarkim paleidžiant (aktyvuojant) plug-in reiktų patikrint. Nes pats suprantu kad WordPress nebūtu toks populiarus jei neturėtu tiek daug plug-in ir jei tą sistema prižiūrėtu tik vienas žmogus. Aišku lengva kalbėti apie tokią sistemą ir gražiai skamba, bet jei tokia kažkokia sistema pavyktu realizuoti, manau butu super, atsirastu daug žmonių kurie sukurtu gal pakankamai neblogų plug-in, vieni plug-in tarkim kazkokius excel failus apdorotu, kiti kažkokia statistika traukti iš DB, dar kiti kurtu layer. Čia šiaip mano tikie pamastymai :) 2013/2/21 Ramas ies...@ramuno.lt 2013/2/21 Paulius Masiliūnas paulius...@gmail.com Ačiū Tomai už atsakymai, bet 3 klausimo atsakyme, tu paminėjai kaip pasiėmi duomenis ir analizuoji juos, čia manau nėra sudėtingas reikalas, pasiemi duomenis, susiimportuoji į savo DB, o poto tiesiog visokius duomenu bazės pjuvius darai. Aš labiau norėjau sužinoti čia kaip darot dėl tarkim kokių piliakalnių sukėlimo į OSM, jei turime tik piliakalniu sąraša excel formatu, nemanau kad rankomis deliojate kokiame JOSM, manau kažkaip automatizuotai supučiat viską į OSM (jei taip, tai kokiu maždaug budu). P.S. Manau reikėtu kažkur surašyti rekomendacijas, ar šiaip sistemas, kurias naudoja OSM programuotojai, manau gal tada atsirastu daugiau norinčiu prisijungti programuoti, nes dabar matai kad yra tarkim užduotis padaryti CSV importą ir atvaizdavimą duomenų, bet nežinai nei kur, kaip daryt, jei ir padarysi pas save lokaliai, ar tai savo serveryje, tai irgi kažkokia bus manau nesamonė, nes nebus kažkur centralizuotai, pas Toma serveryje vienokie kodai ir vienokius dalykus daro serveris, pas Ramuna vel visai kitaip padaryta ir vel tik pas ji serveryje, koks nors kitas programuotojas susikurs irgi kažką pas save, tai gausis visur išmėtita po skirtingus serverius. Pvz.: Pas mane tarkim koks csv importas ir atvaizdavimas, pas kokį Tomą guli piliakalniai, pas Ramuna tarkim viešojo maršuto koks impportavimas. Būtu manau kažkaip patogu jei viskas būtų vienoje vietoje, nu turiu omenyje kad yra kažkokia sistema, ir programuotojai galėtu sukurti kažką tarkim pradžoje pas save, o vėliau galėtų ištestave kažkaip integruoti į kažkokią bendra sistema (gal net ir į ta pačia openmap.lt), nu kaip panasiai maps.lt, ateini ir matai vis kazkokių naujų feature, tai atvaizduoja ten kažkokius rinkimus rezultatus, tai kuriuose rajonuose serga gripu (gripo apidemija paskelbima), tai kokia parduotuvių tinklą (pvz IKI) ar dar kažką, tada manau galėtume pasiskirstyt kas tarkim kokius duomenis analizuoja ir daro importavima, nes dabar pilnai suprantu kad Tomui ar Ramunui viską daryt vieniems ir sudėtinga. Ta pati Tomo duomenų analyzė susijusi su Gatvėmis. Jei būtu ne pas Tomą o kažkur bendrai, tai tarkim Tomas galėtu padaryt gatvių analizę, koks nors kitas žmogus kokį tarkim viešbučių analizę, dar kitas kažkokią kita analizę ir viskas būtų vienoje vietoje, ir būtų visiems paprasčiau viską surasti ir sužiūrėti ko trūkstą OSM, nes tas lakstymas per daug URL irgi nėra geras sprendimas. Nu tikiuosi supratote ką aš čia prirašiau. Pauliau, mintis graži, bet problema tame, kad nėra vaisto nuo visų ligų. Yra daugybė individualių atvejų, kuriems reikia taikyti unikalius sprendimus. O pagaminti tris paprastus prietaisus yra lengviau nei vieną universalų. Juolabiau, ne pirmą kartą susiduriam su iniciatyvos trūkumo problema - kalbėt lyg ir kalbama, bet tik vienetai imasi realių darbų. Kitas dalykas, aš pats visai nenoriu įsileisti į savo daržą nesaugaus kodo. Taip rizikuočiau ne tik naujai bet ir anksčiau sukurtais dalykais, o pradėjus keisti kodus lieku nesuprastas... Dėl visiems suprantamų priežasčių taip pat nenorėčiau nelegalių arba neaiškios kilmės duomenų host'inti. P.S. openmap.lt kodas yra atviras, pasiūlymų ir kontaktų forma veikia. ___ Talk-lt mailing list Talk-lt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lt -- Vitalijus Samkovas ___ Talk-lt mailing list Talk-lt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lt
[Talk-uy] Flechado de calles en Montevideo
Hola! Hace unos dias estuve corrigiendo algunos flechados de calles en Montevideo, algunos tomando como fuente resoluciones municipales de http://monolitos.montevideo.gub.uy Lo que me paso es que con algunos de ellos que son resoluciones reciebntes, mas alla de que esta la resolucion respectiva, no esta puesta la señalizacion vial, ni habia nada nuevo y en la practica sigue el flechado anterior, asi que creo que tendria que deshacer esos cambios y se volveran a aplicar cuando en la realidad esté el flechado. ¿No? Para Guillermo: ¿La IMM, mas alla de la resolucion respectiva, publica o avisa de alguna forma cuando se efectiviza el cambio ? Es como para poder hacer un seguimiento y editar lo que se necesite en OSM. Saludos, M. --- ROCK AND FALL invita Montevideo COMM The Black Keys, Franz Ferdinand, Santullo, Sante les Amis http://www.montevideo.com.uy/hnnoticiaj1.aspx?190059,316 --- ___ Talk-uy mailing list Talk-uy@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-uy
Re: [Talk-se] Lomma kommun
Hej, Vi kan väl generera mittlinjer, eller om kommunen kan göra det? Jag tror de gör den processen när de ska skicka iväg datat till nvdb el dyl. Datan i befintlig form kan vara bra när man ska rikta in ortofoto? /Philip 4 mar 2013 kl. 17:10 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Nu har jag fått en fil med alla vägkanter i kommunen. Jag antar att vi inte har någon direkt nytta av just den datan, men jag tänkte använda den framförallt i de delar som inte har bingtäckning som ett pseudoortofoto, och putsa till vägarna. Är det någon som har något emot det av något skäl, eller finns det något sätt att tagga dessa vägkanter och ladda upp dem? /Andreas 2013/2/14 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Jag har varit i kontakt med en kart- och gistekniker i Lomma kommun, som berättar att de är intresserade av att dela med sig av allt material som de äger till OSM, bland annat lekplatser och byggnader. Han är intresserad av eventuella andra idéer som vi kan ha. Han håller på att konvertera deras byggnadslager till osm-fil just nu och ska även anpassa information om byggnaderna för OSM, såsom industribyggnad osv. Efter han gjort detta har han tänkt ge mig lagren så jag kan ladda upp dem. Är det något jag borde tänka på innan jag gör det, mer än att se till att inte lägga in någon överlappande data? /Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Lomma kommun
Jag vill nog inte ha alla vägar importerade från kommunen, eftersom alla bilvägar i kommunen redan är mappade. Det blir en massa dubbelarbete och dessutom skulle en massa historik gå förlorad. Min tanke var att ändra på de vägar som redan finns. Det med rikta in ortofoto hade jag inte tänkt på. Skulle man då ladda upp den datan otaggad, eller tagga den på något sätt? Såvitt jag vet renderar väl inte Mapnik vägkanter? Jag läste i helpdesken nånstans att det finns en ambition att göra det i framtiden, men det är jag inte helt säker på är helt eftersträvansvärt med tanke på vilket extrajobb det skulle medföra för vanliga dödlig obetalda amatörer. /Andreas 2013/3/4 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Vi kan väl generera mittlinjer, eller om kommunen kan göra det? Jag tror de gör den processen när de ska skicka iväg datat till nvdb el dyl. Datan i befintlig form kan vara bra när man ska rikta in ortofoto? /Philip 4 mar 2013 kl. 17:10 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Nu har jag fått en fil med alla vägkanter i kommunen. Jag antar att vi inte har någon direkt nytta av just den datan, men jag tänkte använda den framförallt i de delar som inte har bingtäckning som ett pseudoortofoto, och putsa till vägarna. Är det någon som har något emot det av något skäl, eller finns det något sätt att tagga dessa vägkanter och ladda upp dem? /Andreas 2013/2/14 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Jag har varit i kontakt med en kart- och gistekniker i Lomma kommun, som berättar att de är intresserade av att dela med sig av allt material som de äger till OSM, bland annat lekplatser och byggnader. Han är intresserad av eventuella andra idéer som vi kan ha. Han håller på att konvertera deras byggnadslager till osm-fil just nu och ska även anpassa information om byggnaderna för OSM, såsom industribyggnad osv. Efter han gjort detta har han tänkt ge mig lagren så jag kan ladda upp dem. Är det något jag borde tänka på innan jag gör det, mer än att se till att inte lägga in någon överlappande data? /Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Lomma kommun
Kunde ju med fördel användas som ett TMS/WMS lager i JOSM/Potlatch så kunde man manuellt putsa vägar om man känner för det. Har inte tid just nu men jag har iaf maskiner att köra TMS/WMS på… vilket jag gissar att Olsson också har. ;) /Joakim On 4 mar 2013, at 17:23, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Jag vill nog inte ha alla vägar importerade från kommunen, eftersom alla bilvägar i kommunen redan är mappade. Det blir en massa dubbelarbete och dessutom skulle en massa historik gå förlorad. Min tanke var att ändra på de vägar som redan finns. Det med rikta in ortofoto hade jag inte tänkt på. Skulle man då ladda upp den datan otaggad, eller tagga den på något sätt? Såvitt jag vet renderar väl inte Mapnik vägkanter? Jag läste i helpdesken nånstans att det finns en ambition att göra det i framtiden, men det är jag inte helt säker på är helt eftersträvansvärt med tanke på vilket extrajobb det skulle medföra för vanliga dödlig obetalda amatörer. /Andreas 2013/3/4 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Vi kan väl generera mittlinjer, eller om kommunen kan göra det? Jag tror de gör den processen när de ska skicka iväg datat till nvdb el dyl. Datan i befintlig form kan vara bra när man ska rikta in ortofoto? /Philip 4 mar 2013 kl. 17:10 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Nu har jag fått en fil med alla vägkanter i kommunen. Jag antar att vi inte har någon direkt nytta av just den datan, men jag tänkte använda den framförallt i de delar som inte har bingtäckning som ett pseudoortofoto, och putsa till vägarna. Är det någon som har något emot det av något skäl, eller finns det något sätt att tagga dessa vägkanter och ladda upp dem? /Andreas 2013/2/14 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Jag har varit i kontakt med en kart- och gistekniker i Lomma kommun, som berättar att de är intresserade av att dela med sig av allt material som de äger till OSM, bland annat lekplatser och byggnader. Han är intresserad av eventuella andra idéer som vi kan ha. Han håller på att konvertera deras byggnadslager till osm-fil just nu och ska även anpassa information om byggnaderna för OSM, såsom industribyggnad osv. Efter han gjort detta har han tänkt ge mig lagren så jag kan ladda upp dem. Är det något jag borde tänka på innan jag gör det, mer än att se till att inte lägga in någon överlappande data? /Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Lomma kommun
Det var ju en vettig idé! Kan du göra så istället Johan? /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 4 mar 2013 kl. 18:00 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Kunde ju med fördel användas som ett TMS/WMS lager i JOSM/Potlatch så kunde man manuellt putsa vägar om man känner för det. Har inte tid just nu men jag har iaf maskiner att köra TMS/WMS på… vilket jag gissar att Olsson också har. ;) /Joakim On 4 mar 2013, at 17:23, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Jag vill nog inte ha alla vägar importerade från kommunen, eftersom alla bilvägar i kommunen redan är mappade. Det blir en massa dubbelarbete och dessutom skulle en massa historik gå förlorad. Min tanke var att ändra på de vägar som redan finns. Det med rikta in ortofoto hade jag inte tänkt på. Skulle man då ladda upp den datan otaggad, eller tagga den på något sätt? Såvitt jag vet renderar väl inte Mapnik vägkanter? Jag läste i helpdesken nånstans att det finns en ambition att göra det i framtiden, men det är jag inte helt säker på är helt eftersträvansvärt med tanke på vilket extrajobb det skulle medföra för vanliga dödlig obetalda amatörer. /Andreas 2013/3/4 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Vi kan väl generera mittlinjer, eller om kommunen kan göra det? Jag tror de gör den processen när de ska skicka iväg datat till nvdb el dyl. Datan i befintlig form kan vara bra när man ska rikta in ortofoto? /Philip 4 mar 2013 kl. 17:10 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Nu har jag fått en fil med alla vägkanter i kommunen. Jag antar att vi inte har någon direkt nytta av just den datan, men jag tänkte använda den framförallt i de delar som inte har bingtäckning som ett pseudoortofoto, och putsa till vägarna. Är det någon som har något emot det av något skäl, eller finns det något sätt att tagga dessa vägkanter och ladda upp dem? /Andreas 2013/2/14 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Jag har varit i kontakt med en kart- och gistekniker i Lomma kommun, som berättar att de är intresserade av att dela med sig av allt material som de äger till OSM, bland annat lekplatser och byggnader. Han är intresserad av eventuella andra idéer som vi kan ha. Han håller på att konvertera deras byggnadslager till osm-fil just nu och ska även anpassa information om byggnaderna för OSM, såsom industribyggnad osv. Efter han gjort detta har han tänkt ge mig lagren så jag kan ladda upp dem. Är det något jag borde tänka på innan jag gör det, mer än att se till att inte lägga in någon överlappande data? /Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Lomma kommun
Med Olsson menade jag Philip… märkte inte att det fanns två Olsson. :D On 4 mar 2013, at 18:51, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Det var ju en vettig idé! Kan du göra så istället Johan? /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 4 mar 2013 kl. 18:00 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Kunde ju med fördel användas som ett TMS/WMS lager i JOSM/Potlatch så kunde man manuellt putsa vägar om man känner för det. Har inte tid just nu men jag har iaf maskiner att köra TMS/WMS på… vilket jag gissar att Olsson också har. ;) /Joakim On 4 mar 2013, at 17:23, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Jag vill nog inte ha alla vägar importerade från kommunen, eftersom alla bilvägar i kommunen redan är mappade. Det blir en massa dubbelarbete och dessutom skulle en massa historik gå förlorad. Min tanke var att ändra på de vägar som redan finns. Det med rikta in ortofoto hade jag inte tänkt på. Skulle man då ladda upp den datan otaggad, eller tagga den på något sätt? Såvitt jag vet renderar väl inte Mapnik vägkanter? Jag läste i helpdesken nånstans att det finns en ambition att göra det i framtiden, men det är jag inte helt säker på är helt eftersträvansvärt med tanke på vilket extrajobb det skulle medföra för vanliga dödlig obetalda amatörer. /Andreas 2013/3/4 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Vi kan väl generera mittlinjer, eller om kommunen kan göra det? Jag tror de gör den processen när de ska skicka iväg datat till nvdb el dyl. Datan i befintlig form kan vara bra när man ska rikta in ortofoto? /Philip 4 mar 2013 kl. 17:10 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Nu har jag fått en fil med alla vägkanter i kommunen. Jag antar att vi inte har någon direkt nytta av just den datan, men jag tänkte använda den framförallt i de delar som inte har bingtäckning som ett pseudoortofoto, och putsa till vägarna. Är det någon som har något emot det av något skäl, eller finns det något sätt att tagga dessa vägkanter och ladda upp dem? /Andreas 2013/2/14 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Jag har varit i kontakt med en kart- och gistekniker i Lomma kommun, som berättar att de är intresserade av att dela med sig av allt material som de äger till OSM, bland annat lekplatser och byggnader. Han är intresserad av eventuella andra idéer som vi kan ha. Han håller på att konvertera deras byggnadslager till osm-fil just nu och ska även anpassa information om byggnaderna för OSM, såsom industribyggnad osv. Efter han gjort detta har han tänkt ge mig lagren så jag kan ladda upp dem. Är det något jag borde tänka på innan jag gör det, mer än att se till att inte lägga in någon överlappande data? /Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Lomma kommun
Aha :) Så länge inte Johan Olsson har nåt emot det får gärna Philip skapa en tms av datan. Jag har den uppdelad i tre olika .osm-filer, om det funkar till ändamålet (kan inget om det tekniska) kan jag skicka dem, annars får Johan lösa det med Philip på något annat sätt. /Andreas 2013/3/4 Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Med Olsson menade jag Philip… märkte inte att det fanns två Olsson. :D On 4 mar 2013, at 18:51, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Det var ju en vettig idé! Kan du göra så istället Johan? /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 4 mar 2013 kl. 18:00 skrev Joakim Fors joa...@joakimfors.org: Kunde ju med fördel användas som ett TMS/WMS lager i JOSM/Potlatch så kunde man manuellt putsa vägar om man känner för det. Har inte tid just nu men jag har iaf maskiner att köra TMS/WMS på… vilket jag gissar att Olsson också har. ;) /Joakim On 4 mar 2013, at 17:23, Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Jag vill nog inte ha alla vägar importerade från kommunen, eftersom alla bilvägar i kommunen redan är mappade. Det blir en massa dubbelarbete och dessutom skulle en massa historik gå förlorad. Min tanke var att ändra på de vägar som redan finns. Det med rikta in ortofoto hade jag inte tänkt på. Skulle man då ladda upp den datan otaggad, eller tagga den på något sätt? Såvitt jag vet renderar väl inte Mapnik vägkanter? Jag läste i helpdesken nånstans att det finns en ambition att göra det i framtiden, men det är jag inte helt säker på är helt eftersträvansvärt med tanke på vilket extrajobb det skulle medföra för vanliga dödlig obetalda amatörer. /Andreas 2013/3/4 Philip Olsson ols...@puffy.nu: Hej, Vi kan väl generera mittlinjer, eller om kommunen kan göra det? Jag tror de gör den processen när de ska skicka iväg datat till nvdb el dyl. Datan i befintlig form kan vara bra när man ska rikta in ortofoto? /Philip 4 mar 2013 kl. 17:10 skrev Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Nu har jag fått en fil med alla vägkanter i kommunen. Jag antar att vi inte har någon direkt nytta av just den datan, men jag tänkte använda den framförallt i de delar som inte har bingtäckning som ett pseudoortofoto, och putsa till vägarna. Är det någon som har något emot det av något skäl, eller finns det något sätt att tagga dessa vägkanter och ladda upp dem? /Andreas 2013/2/14 Andreas Vilén andreas.vi...@gmail.com: Jag har varit i kontakt med en kart- och gistekniker i Lomma kommun, som berättar att de är intresserade av att dela med sig av allt material som de äger till OSM, bland annat lekplatser och byggnader. Han är intresserad av eventuella andra idéer som vi kan ha. Han håller på att konvertera deras byggnadslager till osm-fil just nu och ska även anpassa information om byggnaderna för OSM, såsom industribyggnad osv. Efter han gjort detta har han tänkt ge mig lagren så jag kan ladda upp dem. Är det något jag borde tänka på innan jag gör det, mer än att se till att inte lägga in någon överlappande data? /Andreas ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-es] Rutas de transporte
El 3 de marzo de 2013 17:49, Jaime Crespo jy...@jynus.com escribió: Que responda más gente, pero creo que la idea es trabajar lo menos posible si ya queda claro. Sobre todo si eso implica crear demasiadas relaciones. Nadie que conozca, por ejemplo, mapea la relación portales-calle. Yo tampoco lo tengo claro 100%, pero por lógica opino que añadir una relación stop_area por cada parada sólo para vincular una stop_position y una platform es añadir bytes innecesarios a la base de datos (aparte del trabajo que supone para el mapero y la posibilidad de cometer fallos). Si la parada tiene un código (ref=*) y lo incluyes en los dos nodos, creo que es suficiente para vincularlos. Luego se ponen ambos en la relación route y listo. Si no conoces el código de la parada, también se puede deducir la relación entre platform y stop_position por la distacia. Vamos que sólo usaría un stop_area en casos en los que haya duda por haber varias platform cercanas unas a otras. Saludos, Javi. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-es] ¿Asistentes a las VII Jornadas de SIG Libre de Girona?
Hola a todos, El año pasado Cruz asistió a estas jornadas y me contó que a través de esta lista, el día antes se organizó una pequeña cena (independiente de lo que son las jornadas) entre varios asistentes. ¿Alguno vais a asistir? Yo mañana sobre las 16h ya estaré por allí. -- Ander Pijoan Lamas Research Assistant, Deustotech Computer Science Engineer University of Deusto E-mail: ander.pij...@deusto.es Phone: +34 664471228 in: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=162888312 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] ¿Asistentes a las VII Jornadas de SIG Libre de Girona?
On Lunes, 4 de marzo de 2013 17:27:51 Ander Pijoan escribió: Hola a todos, El año pasado Cruz asistió a estas jornadas y me contó que a través de esta lista, el día antes se organizó una pequeña cena (independiente de lo que son las jornadas) entre varios asistentes. ¿Alguno vais a asistir? Yo mañana sobre las 16h ya estaré por allí. /me levanta la mano -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es i...@geonerd.org ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-es] Discusión Orden del Día 1ra Reunión Geoinquietos México DF
Estimadas Listas: Respecto a la Orden del Día 1ra Reunión Geoinquietos México DF, el sábado 9 de Marzo de 2013, me parece que podría ser más o menos como esta: Comienza a las 15:00 hrs: 1.- Rueda de presentación de 3 minutos por persona explicando: motivos de acercamiento al grupo, experiencia profesional y personal en lo GEO y SIG, etc. (Si somos como 30 de 2 a 3 minutos máximo serían 90 minutos) 2.- Presentación express de OSGeo (10 minutos) (¿Quién se apunta para darla?) 3.- Presentación express de los Geoiquientos de otras partes (10 minutos) (¿Quién se apunta para darla?) 4.- Presentación de Introducción a las IDE 15 minutos a cargo de compañera, Verónica. 5.- Preguntas y respuestas a la presentación de Introducción a las IDE (10 minutos) *(La presentación de OpenGeo Suite la podemos posponer para la próxima reunión para no hacer pesada la reunión) 6.- Receso - Tomar cafecito - Relacionase (30 minutos) (no se si dejar esto al final) 7.- Organización y acuerdos (20 minutos): Entonces, qué queremos nosotros aquí en México. ¿Cuándo nos volvemos a ver? Invitación a agregarse a la lista. 8.- Si al final alguien quiere ir por un refrigerio o unas chelas con gusto vamos a algún sitio. 9.- Abrazos :P Espero sus comentarios, que lo mejor sería que a partir de ahora se discutiera en la lista de Geoinquietos México, cuya dirección es, Lista correo Geoinqueitos México: http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mexico Recordatorio: Lugar:http://adeco.org.mxCalle 20 de agosto No.35, Col. Churubusco, Delegación Coyoacán, México D.F. (a un costado del metro General Anaya, a una casa de una escuela secundaria) Fecha: Sábado 9 Marzo a las 15:00 hrs Saludos cordiales Ulises ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-at] Wald: Waidhofen an der Ybbs
Servus, ich bin kein wirklicher Multi-Polygon-Profi, deshalb bitte ich euch um Hilfe. Es sieht so aus, als würde um Waidhofen an der Ybbs einiges an Wald fehlen (je nach Zoomstufe mal mehr mal weniger). Könnte sich das bitte jemand ansehen? Thx Jimmy ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wald: Waidhofen an der Ybbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-03-04 16:39, Jimmy_K wrote: ich bin kein wirklicher Multi-Polygon-Profi, deshalb bitte ich euch um Hilfe. Es sieht so aus, als würde um Waidhofen an der Ybbs einiges an Wald fehlen (je nach Zoomstufe mal mehr mal weniger). Könnte sich das bitte jemand ansehen? So wie ich das verstehe hat jemand den Wald neu angelegt. Bei geänderten/neuen Multipolygonen dauert das immer etwas länger, bis der Renderer das auf allen Zoomstufen begreift und durchführt. LG, Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRNMtkAAoJEMZD4PEit0TYRNAH/20w5Pzm4Uf5fG2XQpK1Ocoe RnweCJ2p+rzJT0jMfTJ2zY4ucmRg3WqVm63STjx5sc7hwCkIuJFCWF9Uckj3LFUS ihFs60yS7k6jeqZ0IdH+uL6BDo0ruBQgOn6C9tGAw+bjbQ3bFozdkx0gQxE0UO5N eeTzKCjFVvz3q3QbuIVAe5PQev8txHmbHWcIumLQhgLtNd+MibBEg1ky9ntHTToa O767tjrjOgaUFftW1wPw6F+BnY77A8xHhmc22TZC3gOb2GwKXLQ9LFsSv6ux+WFV NVJtPotzy9jchC31urayS9rHTl0POlt12azK0Cz91hju++qb6Q0ZXOrGp3Vfezs= =V1QV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] S; Javascript Framework, um lokale .osm-Dateien darzustellen
On 03/03/13 14:34, Simon Legner wrote: Hallo! On Sun, 2013-03-03 at 13:55 +0100, Michael Maier wrote: Ich helfe mit, um ein Kunstprojekt[1], das mit Papierkarten[2] gestaltet wurde, zu digitalisieren und als Slippy Map zur Verfügung zu stellen. Verstehe ich das richtig, dass ihr POIs auf einer Slippy Map darstellen wollt und die POIs nicht auf der OSM-Datenbank abgefragt werden sollen? Warum habt ihr euch für lokale OSM-Dateien entschieden? Weil es da nicht um geografisch relevante POIs geht, sondern um persönliche Meinungen, wie einzelne Menschen die Stadt sehen, zB In diesem Stadtviertel fühle ich mich wohl - keine Daten, die in die Hauptdatenbank passen würden. Eine POI-Karte lässt sich beispielsweise mit Leaflet recht einfach realisieren [LL-Tutorial]. Die einzelnen POIs ließen sich beispielsweise serverseitig entsprechend aufbereitet via jQuery asynchron nachladen. Bei konkreteren Informationen kann ich das gerne noch etwas genauer beschreiben. Grüße Simon [LL-Tutorial] http://leafletjs.com/examples/custom-icons.html Hab ich mir schon angesehen, und die serverseitige Variante kurz ausprobiert: http://s8472.dyndns.org/osm/leaflet/POImap/arts_centre.html Es geht hier um ein sehr begrenztes Gebiet (Graz) mit maximal 40 Punkten pro Karte. Daher schrecke ich etwas vor dem Programmieraufwand der Serverseite zurück, und hätte am liebsten eine rein clientseitige Lösung, dem ich ein .osm-file mit entsprechenden Tags (Icon-Name, Text und ev. Bildlink fürs Popup) gebe und gut ists. Danke, lg Michi -- Michael Maier, Student of Telematics @ Graz University of Technology OpenStreetMap Graz http://osm.org/go/0Iz@paV http://wiki.osm.org/Graz http://wiki.osm.org/Graz/Stammtisch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wald: Waidhofen an der Ybbs
Danke, Hauptsache er kommt wieder. LG Jimmy Am 04.03.2013 17:27, schrieb Stefan Kopetzky: On 2013-03-04 16:39, Jimmy_K wrote: ich bin kein wirklicher Multi-Polygon-Profi, deshalb bitte ich euch um Hilfe. Es sieht so aus, als würde um Waidhofen an der Ybbs einiges an Wald fehlen (je nach Zoomstufe mal mehr mal weniger). Könnte sich das bitte jemand ansehen? So wie ich das verstehe hat jemand den Wald neu angelegt. Bei geänderten/neuen Multipolygonen dauert das immer etwas länger, bis der Renderer das auf allen Zoomstufen begreift und durchführt. LG, Stefan ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wald: Waidhofen an der Ybbs
On 04.03.2013 17:27, Stefan Kopetzky wrote: On 2013-03-04 16:39, Jimmy_K wrote: ich bin kein wirklicher Multi-Polygon-Profi, deshalb bitte ich euch um Hilfe. Es sieht so aus, als würde um Waidhofen an der Ybbs einiges an Wald fehlen (je nach Zoomstufe mal mehr mal weniger). Könnte sich das bitte jemand ansehen? So wie ich das verstehe hat jemand den Wald neu angelegt. Bei geänderten/neuen Multipolygonen dauert das immer etwas länger, bis der Renderer das auf allen Zoomstufen begreift und durchführt. Und selbst dann kann es sein, dass der Browser die Tiles noch aus seinem Cache holt. Ein Refresh (z.B. CTRL-R in Firefox) wirkt manchmal Wunder. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-pt] Interrupção de serviço no dia 08/03/2013
A todos, Uma intervenção nos servidores OSM está marcada para a próxima sexta-feira dia 8 de Março, das 9h as 16h UTC. Não será possível fazer quaisquer alterações na base de dados ou no wiki, estes serviços passarão a estar disponível (na maior parte do tempo) em leitura só. Será impossível : - editar - fazer login - escrever no wiki - publicar blogs Para mais informações : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/March_2013_server_maintenance Francisco ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-lv] A New Editor for OpenStreetMap: iD
Palēns, bet zīmēt var. Tagad strādā jau uz osm db http://geowiki.com/iD/#layer=Bingmap=8.24/56.8918/24.7539 On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:21 PM, cuu...@gmail.com cuu...@gmail.com wrote: Uzsaukums: http://mapbox.com/blog/announcing-id/ Demo uz testa servera: http://geowiki.com/iD/#map=20.00/38.90085/-77.02271 ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
[Talk-lv] OSM un jahtu regate
Viena LV firma, kas nodarbojas ar automašīnu tracking ir tikusi pie jahtu regates atspoguļošanas online režīmā uz lielajiem ekrāniem. Viņi izmanto OSM kartes, tātad OSM būs uz lielajiem ekrāniem. Vairāk info man gan pagaidām nav, nesanāca īsti aprunāties. Bet nu pozitīvi OSM ;) -- Jānis ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-lv] OSM un jahtu regate
Lieliskas vēstis! :) A tā regate notiks Baltijas jūrā? Varbūt būtu iespējams dabūt kādu foto ar darbojošos sistēmu? Pēteris. 2013. gada 4. marts 17:54 Jānis Ročāns janis.roc...@gmail.com rakstīja: Viena LV firma, kas nodarbojas ar automašīnu tracking ir tikusi pie jahtu regates atspoguļošanas online režīmā uz lielajiem ekrāniem. Viņi izmanto OSM kartes, tātad OSM būs uz lielajiem ekrāniem. Vairāk info man gan pagaidām nav, nesanāca īsti aprunāties. Bet nu pozitīvi OSM ;) -- Jānis ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- mortigi tempo Pēteris Krišjānis ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-lv] OSM un jahtu regate
Sistēma pagaidām paredzēta automašīnu izsekošanai, bet viņi ir sākuši darbu pie sistēmas pielāgošanas šim pasākumam. Par maršrutiem nemāku vēl teikt. Katrā ziņā liels uzsvars šajā sistēmā ir likts uz laikiem utml. Rīt varētu apjautāties vairāk, varu forwardēt jautājumus tālāk ;) 2013/3/4 pec...@gmail.com pec...@gmail.com Lieliskas vēstis! :) A tā regate notiks Baltijas jūrā? Varbūt būtu iespējams dabūt kādu foto ar darbojošos sistēmu? Pēteris. 2013. gada 4. marts 17:54 Jānis Ročāns janis.roc...@gmail.com rakstīja: Viena LV firma, kas nodarbojas ar automašīnu tracking ir tikusi pie jahtu regates atspoguļošanas online režīmā uz lielajiem ekrāniem. Viņi izmanto OSM kartes, tātad OSM būs uz lielajiem ekrāniem. Vairāk info man gan pagaidām nav, nesanāca īsti aprunāties. Bet nu pozitīvi OSM ;) -- Jānis ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- mortigi tempo Pēteris Krišjānis -- Jānis ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-ca] Out of date or incomplete NRCan-CanVec-7.0 data
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Tony Toews t...@tonytoews.com wrote: I didn't realize you could dig that much deeper into who did what. You can get quite a bit of information... what editor are you using? Or you could update it to reflect reality. Updated. I probably should've joined the nodes to the wooded area polygon or the park so the boundaries are contiguous but I'll figure that out another day. I assumed school yards are part of the residential areas. You can define the schoolyard to reflect that it is a school yard. You can also define the ball diamonds etc. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23212591 If you look at the history, the polygon was imported by sammuell from CanVec in an effort to correct data See that's my problem. When I take a look at that polygon I don't know if it's valid out of date data or someone mucking about or what. So I'm glad I asked. Even when digging deeper, you might not know what the person was up to if they didn't put a comment on their changeset. Look at the Brentwood Park polygon above, and tell me what Sundance was doing... there's no comment to reflect the changes made. Thanks muchly for the detailed explanation. Oh Tony, we're just scratching the surface so far! Now you need to go back add the commercial areas, fix all those bad CanVec building outlines etc... There's always more to do in OSM! :) -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Sewage dump stations
I believe you want amenity=waste_disposal and waste=excrement Look under the waste tag on the wiki. I do believe we need a single amenity=sewage_dump_station instead of the two tags, but... On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Tony Toews t...@tonytoews.com wrote: Folks One object that is of significant interest to RVs is the location of sewage dump stations. I know of two in my small town one of which is hidden away behind a gas station on a main highway and the other more logically placed in the provincial park campground. I don't see any way to add dump stations as a discrete object. Or am I wrong? Should I put them in as public toilets? Just kidding. Tony ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Sewage dump stations
That's exactly the tagging I used when I mapped out some campgrounds in my area. It was the best match I could find in the wiki. Andrew Lester Victoria, BC On 2013-03-04, at 7:53 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I believe you want amenity=waste_disposal and waste=excrement Look under the waste tag on the wiki. I do believe we need a single amenity=sewage_dump_station instead of the two tags, but... On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Tony Toews t...@tonytoews.com wrote: Folks One object that is of significant interest to RVs is the location of sewage dump stations. I know of two in my small town one of which is hidden away behind a gas station on a main highway and the other more logically placed in the provincial park campground. I don't see any way to add dump stations as a discrete object. Or am I wrong? Should I put them in as public toilets? Just kidding. Tony ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Clifford OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Out of date or incomplete NRCan-CanVec-7.0 data
At 06:54 AM 2013-03-04, James Ewen wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Tony Toews t...@tonytoews.com wrote: I didn't realize you could dig that much deeper into who did what. You can get quite a bit of information... what editor are you using? The builtin Flash editor. But I see I can go to advanced and dig a bit deeper into the changes. Now you need to go back add the commercial areas, fix all those bad CanVec building outlines etc... There's always more to do in OSM! :) smile Tony ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-cz] odborna skupina CAGI
Přátelé, jak asi víte, na GIS Ostrava se dohodlo, že v rámci CAGI vznikne odborná skupina pro Open Source a Open Data. Prosím zájemce o členství, aby se přihásili např. na můj e-mail. Cíle skupiny překopírovávám z návrhu stanov budoucího sdružení (viz post scriptum níže): a) propagovat používání open source nástrojů pro geoinformatiku, zejména pak geoinformatiku, geodézii a kartografii b) podporovat vývoj open source nástrojů pro geoinformatiku, c) podporovat tvorbu, sdílení a publikování volně dostupných a otevřených geodat, Když se podívám na ostatní odborné skupiny, lze cíl formulovat i vágněji: http://cagi.cz/ukazaktivitu.php?1 Stejně tak forma činnosti: a) formulace doporučení a závěrů Hlaste se, pište - díky Jáchym P.S: Připomínám, že vedle této odborné skupiny by mělo vzniknout občanské sdružení (návrh stanov v přípravě), které by mělo být na CAGI nezávislé a činnost odborné skupiny by měla být podobná. Osobně to chápu tak, že odborná skupina by tvořila jakýsi personální most mezi občanským sdružením a CAGI. P.P.S: Ideální termín pro přihlášení do odborné skupiny je do 6.3.2013, ale nejedná se o uzavřený klub, přijímáme kohokoliv kdykoliv. -- Jachym Cepicky Help Service - Remote Sensing s.r.o. jachym.cepi...@gmail.com HS-RS: jac...@hsrs.cz http://bnhelp.cz http://les-ejk.cz signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] odborna skupina CAGI
Count me in! On Po 4. březen 2013, 13:13:49 CET, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Přátelé, jak asi víte, na GIS Ostrava se dohodlo, že v rámci CAGI vznikne odborná skupina pro Open Source a Open Data. Prosím zájemce o členství, aby se přihásili např. na můj e-mail. Cíle skupiny překopírovávám z návrhu stanov budoucího sdružení (viz post scriptum níže): a) propagovat používání open source nástrojů pro geoinformatiku, zejména pak geoinformatiku, geodézii a kartografii b) podporovat vývoj open source nástrojů pro geoinformatiku, c) podporovat tvorbu, sdílení a publikování volně dostupných a otevřených geodat, Když se podívám na ostatní odborné skupiny, lze cíl formulovat i vágněji: http://cagi.cz/ukazaktivitu.php?1 Stejně tak forma činnosti: a) formulace doporučení a závěrů Hlaste se, pište - díky Jáchym P.S: Připomínám, že vedle této odborné skupiny by mělo vzniknout občanské sdružení (návrh stanov v přípravě), které by mělo být na CAGI nezávislé a činnost odborné skupiny by měla být podobná. Osobně to chápu tak, že odborná skupina by tvořila jakýsi personální most mezi občanským sdružením a CAGI. P.P.S: Ideální termín pro přihlášení do odborné skupiny je do 6.3.2013, ale nejedná se o uzavřený klub, přijímáme kohokoliv kdykoliv. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz attachment: vohnout.vcf___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
[OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
Bonjour Depuis quelques temps (je ne sais pas trop) l'Ile Saint-Laurent à Chalon sur Saône a coulé. http://osm.org/go/0A5qNeEOk-- J'ai essayé de la renflouer notement en supprimant le tag natural=land déclaré obsolète par Osmose mais elle est toujours au fond de l'eau. Peut-être faut-il le remplacer par quelque chose d'autre? Quelqu'un d'expérimenté pourrai-il y jeter un oeuil et me faire un retour sur ce qui provoque cela? merci cordialement Claude ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
Bonjour, le 04/03/2013 09:32, claude marani a écrit: Bonjour Depuis quelques temps (je ne sais pas trop) l'Ile Saint-Laurent à Chalon sur Saône a coulé. http://osm.org/go/0A5qNeEOk-- J'ai constaté le problème la semaine dernière sur d'autres iles de cette zone et j'ai essayé de voir quel tag était en était la cause. Seul le natural=land fait réapparaître les îles sur mapnik mais ce n'est pas satisfaisant. J'ai remplacé ce dernier à l'instant par place=islet mais disparition totale... Toute solution m'intéresse également. Samy ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
J'ai eu le même pb, pas vraiment résolu, mais… avec landuse=# l'ile réapparait, pas trop satisfaisant si landuse multiples… sinon je crois qu'il faut tagger place= ET name=### (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disland) pas essayé… Le 4 mars 2013 à 09:53, Samy Mezani a écrit : Bonjour, le 04/03/2013 09:32, claude marani a écrit: Bonjour Depuis quelques temps (je ne sais pas trop) l'Ile Saint-Laurent à Chalon sur Saône a coulé. http://osm.org/go/0A5qNeEOk-- J'ai constaté le problème la semaine dernière sur d'autres iles de cette zone et j'ai essayé de voir quel tag était en était la cause. Seul le natural=land fait réapparaître les îles sur mapnik mais ce n'est pas satisfaisant. J'ai remplacé ce dernier à l'instant par place=islet mais disparition totale... Toute solution m'intéresse également. Samy ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
le 04/03/2013 10:25, ades_...@orange.fr a écrit: avec landuse=# l'ile réapparait, pas trop satisfaisant si landuse multiples… Ça ne fonctionne pas dans notre cas. J'avais déjà un landuse=forest sur deux autres îles et mapnik ne les affiche pas. sinon je crois qu'il faut tagger place= ET name=### (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disland) pas essayé… Pareil, il y avait déjà un name sur une des îles et elle n'apparaît pas. Bizarre ce problème avec place=island/islet... Je cherche sur d'autres secteurs au cas où. Merci Samy ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
Ou alors l'ile est dans plusieurs relations avec la même, rivière comme 'inner', je crois me souvenir que mon ile est réapparue après avoir régler ça … Attention au délais d'actualisation des rendus, ce n'est pas tjs instantané… Le 4 mars 2013 à 10:45, Samy Mezani a écrit : le 04/03/2013 10:25, ades_...@orange.fr a écrit: avec landuse=# l'ile réapparait, pas trop satisfaisant si landuse multiples… Ça ne fonctionne pas dans notre cas. J'avais déjà un landuse=forest sur deux autres îles et mapnik ne les affiche pas. sinon je crois qu'il faut tagger place= ET name=### (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disland) pas essayé… Pareil, il y avait déjà un name sur une des îles et elle n'apparaît pas. Bizarre ce problème avec place=island/islet... Je cherche sur d'autres secteurs au cas où. Merci Samy ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un noeud pour un tableau...
Je ne connais pas ce point particulier, mais pour avoir vécu plusieurs années sur Arles (ou Van Gogh a passé un peu de temps) je peux confirmer que ces point sont clairement indiqués par des plaques descriptives sur le terrain et qu'il ont un vrai intérêt touristique: il y a des itinéraires qui relient tous ces points, les cartes sont disponibles auprès de l'office du tourisme ! Je ne sais pas s'il faut aller jusqu'à cartographier tous les points où ont été peints les tableaux du Louvre (mais l'intérêt pour le patrimoine artistique est réel), en tout cas pour moi ces plaques descriptives présentes sur le terrain ont bien leur place dans OSM ;) Sylvain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
A cette heure 11h06 elle est visible sur le WEB... j'ai tapé ile saint laurent et voici le lien http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=4.85674619674683minlat=46.777587890625maxlon=4.86311817169189maxlat=46.7807006835938 c'est une ile de 400 x 300 m si c'est bien cela -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/l-ile-Saint-Laurent-a-coule-tp5751816p5751832.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
Le problème vient peut être du fait qu'il y a des tags sur la relation (natural=water,...) et d'autres sur les membres de la relation en outer (waterway=riverbank,...), il faudrait choisir. Vlad. On 4 mars 2013, at 09:53, Samy Mezani samy.mez...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Bonjour, le 04/03/2013 09:32, claude marani a écrit: Bonjour Depuis quelques temps (je ne sais pas trop) l'Ile Saint-Laurent à Chalon sur Saône a coulé. http://osm.org/go/0A5qNeEOk-- J'ai constaté le problème la semaine dernière sur d'autres iles de cette zone et j'ai essayé de voir quel tag était en était la cause. Seul le natural=land fait réapparaître les îles sur mapnik mais ce n'est pas satisfaisant. J'ai remplacé ce dernier à l'instant par place=islet mais disparition totale... Toute solution m'intéresse également. Samy ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
Les bâtiments et routes sont visibles, mais pas la terre... Francescu Le 4 mars 2013 11:08, willemijns sebast...@willemijns.com a écrit : A cette heure 11h06 elle est visible sur le WEB... j'ai tapé ile saint laurent et voici le lien http://www.openstreetmap.org/?minlon=4.85674619674683minlat=46.777587890625maxlon=4.86311817169189maxlat=46.7807006835938 c'est une ile de 400 x 300 m si c'est bien cela -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/l-ile-Saint-Laurent-a-coule-tp5751816p5751832.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Cordialement, Francescu GAROBY ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un noeud pour un tableau...
Vincent, Ton panneau se trouve sur la place de la mairie (que l'on distingue en arrière plan). Le POI relevé par Black Myst se situe quant à lui dans la petite rue (pas couverte par Street View), sur le mur en face de l'entrée du petit musée qui fait partie de l'auberge Ravoux. Je suis déjà passé par là, mais je ne me souviens pas du tableau représenté sur le panneau en question. Anecdote HS : Une chose est sûre, il n'y a pas de **vrai** Van Gogh dans le secteur. C'est d'ailleurs le rêve de l'auberge, qui a installé un cadre vide dans la dernière chambre de Vincenthttp://imgll.trivago.com/uploadimages/68/79/6879719_l.jpeg, en attendant de récolter assez de sous (l'espoir fait vivre) pour le remplacer par une vraie peinture Le 4 mars 2013 07:31, Vincent de Chateau-Thierry v...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour, Le 04/03/2013 01:09, Jo a écrit : si je comprends bien c'est un panneau d'info, disant que cette peinture à été peint à cet endroit? 2013/3/4 Black Myst black.m...@free.fr mailto:black.m...@free.fr En corrigeant des tags wikipedia, je suis tombé sur ce point: http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/node/1359955172http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1359955172 D'après ce que j'en comprends, il désigne un tableau de Van Gogh ! Je ne trouve pas particulièrement utile d'avoir un noeud pour une oeuvre dans un musée... J'imagine mal le nombre de point qu'il faudrait pour le Louvre par exemple. C'est bien un noeud pour un panneau, et un panneau pour un tableau :-) Cette photo confirme : http://goo.gl/maps/JyqUF (Et à la rigueur, il lui manque un ref=23) vincent __**_ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-frhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- ab_fab http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ab_fab Il n'y a pas de pas perdus, Nadja ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Logiciels de navigation pour Android
Bonjour, je remonte ce sujet... sur du longue distance off-line, des nouvelles apps à proposer en plus de navit et osmand ? certaines apps sont ejectées des serveurs principaux d'OSM, il y a du travail... si l'app permet l'import de planet ca n'en sera que mieux... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Logiciels-de-navigation-pour-Android-tp5639392p5751836.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un noeud pour un tableau...
Ce panneau-ci http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1359955651 est en plein milieu des champs. C'est un repère physique très valable durant la balade Le 4 mars 2013 11:07, Sylvain Maillard sylvain.maill...@gmail.com a écrit : Je ne connais pas ce point particulier, mais pour avoir vécu plusieurs années sur Arles (ou Van Gogh a passé un peu de temps) je peux confirmer que ces point sont clairement indiqués par des plaques descriptives sur le terrain et qu'il ont un vrai intérêt touristique: il y a des itinéraires qui relient tous ces points, les cartes sont disponibles auprès de l'office du tourisme ! Je ne sais pas s'il faut aller jusqu'à cartographier tous les points où ont été peints les tableaux du Louvre (mais l'intérêt pour le patrimoine artistique est réel), en tout cas pour moi ces plaques descriptives présentes sur le terrain ont bien leur place dans OSM ;) Sylvain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- ab_fab http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ab_fab Il n'y a pas de pas perdus, Nadja ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un noeud pour un tableau...
De : Ab_fab Vincent, Ton panneau se trouve sur la place de la mairie (que l'on distingue en arrière plan). Oops oui en effet, mon lien est à côté de la plaque ! Panoramio n'est pas Street View, je me suis laissé avoir en parcourant les photos depuis approximativement le point indiqué par Black Myst. Désolé pour la confusion. vincent (dans le panneau) Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Logiciels de navigation pour Android
Salut, maverick : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codesector.maverick.litehl=en Il peut télécharger les tuiles à la volée en mode connexion. Pour le mode déconnecté deux solutions : - pré-charger les tuiles dans le cache en mode connecté, puis on peut les afficher en mode déconnecté, ça marche bien pour une petite zone; - utiliser le logiciel mobile atlas creator (http://mobac.sourceforge.net/) pour télécharger des grandes zones puis les transférer sur la carte mémoire de l'appareil mobile. Maverick est capable d'enregistrer des traces et des points manuels en les affichant sur fond de carte OSM (ou autres dont je taierai le nom). :-) Je m'en sers pas mal en mode randonnée avec un appareil photo séparé pour contribuer à OSM. a+ Nicolas Le 04/03/2013 11:22, willemijns a écrit : Bonjour, je remonte ce sujet... sur du longue distance off-line, des nouvelles apps à proposer en plus de navit et osmand ? certaines apps sont ejectées des serveurs principaux d'OSM, il y a du travail... si l'app permet l'import de planet ca n'en sera que mieux... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un noeud pour un tableau...
Il ne faudrait pas abuser sur les tags wikipédia, ou bien préciser quelques points. Je pars du principe qu'on lie de façon unique un article avec un lieu pour le tag générique wikipedia=* Pour des tags comme wikipedia:name=* wikipedia:artist=* wikipedia:architect=* on peut avoir de nombreux objets dans OSM qui pointent vers le même article. J'ai trouvé des tags multiples liants par exemple un Supermarché Franprix à la page fr:Franprix de wikipédia. Je pense que cela ne va pas rendre ces tags très exploitables, et un tag wikipedia:brand ou truc du genre me semblerait plus adapté. Pour un personnage, sa localisation la plus logique me semble être sa sépulture... amis du Père Lachaise bon boulot ! Qu'en pensez-vous ? -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France Synthèse du Week-end SOTM-FR à Lyon : http://openstreetmap.fr/synthese-sotmfr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
le 04/03/2013 11:09, Vladimir Vyskocil a écrit: Le problème vient peut être du fait qu'il y a des tags sur la relation (natural=water,...) et d'autres sur les membres de la relation en outer (waterway=riverbank,...), il faudrait choisir. Effectivement, le problème venait de ce mauvais tag sur la relation. Ici il s'agit juste d'une relation multipolygon avec des membres inner pour les piles et outer pour les riverbank. Tout est rentré dans l'ordre après correction. Merci Samy ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Logiciels de navigation pour Android
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013, at 11:37, Nicolas Moyroud [via GIS] wrote: maverick : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.codesector.maverick.litehl=en ok j'essaye de ce pas ;) -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Logiciels-de-navigation-pour-Android-tp5639392p5751845.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] l'ile Saint-Laurent a coulé
Bonjour, Je viens de jeter un coup d'oeil. Il existait 2 relations multipolygon sur la Saône et sur sur les riverbank. Un beau merdier quoi ! J'ai viré la multipolygon Saône, sans toucher à la relation Saône correspondant au cour d'eau lui-même. Le résultat à l'air pas mal maintenant : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.779lon=4.86062zoom=17layers=M http://layers.openstreetmap.fr/?lat=46.77877lon=4.8606zoom=17layers=B A+ Le 4 mars 2013 09:53, Samy Mezani samy.mez...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Bonjour, le 04/03/2013 09:32, claude marani a écrit: Bonjour Depuis quelques temps (je ne sais pas trop) l'Ile Saint-Laurent à Chalon sur Saône a coulé. http://osm.org/go/0A5qNeEOk-- J'ai constaté le problème la semaine dernière sur d'autres iles de cette zone et j'ai essayé de voir quel tag était en était la cause. Seul le natural=land fait réapparaître les îles sur mapnik mais ce n'est pas satisfaisant. J'ai remplacé ce dernier à l'instant par place=islet mais disparition totale... Toute solution m'intéresse également. Samy __**_ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-frhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- Marc Sibert m...@sibert.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un noeud pour un tableau...
Le 4 mars 2013 11:46, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Qu'en pensez-vous ? Pour ce qui concerne un lieu, le seul tag qui me paraisse utile est le wikipedia=fr:Machin. Tous les autres me semblent inutiles/nuisibles ; il vaut mieux travailler directement sur wikipedia, et arranger les moteurs de rendu (hein, je parle bien) osm en ce sens. Pour l'exemple du père lachaise, où il s'agirait de taguer les tombes avec le nom de l'occupant, il me semble qu'il vaut mieux marquer son nom par un tag osm. Il me semble en effet difficile d'affirmer que la tombe est une personne en correspondance avec sa page wikipedia ?... La tombe est un lieu, et si elle a sa page wikipedia, alors on utilise le tag wikipedia, sinon on ne fait aucun lien avec wikipedia. C'est pareil, il me semble, pour les panneaux publicitaires (enfin, je veux dire, d'information touristique). Qu'ils soient un plus pour les touristes, je ne le nie absolument pas. Qu'on doive les mettre sur la carte, OUI. Qu'on doive passer du temps à les relier à wikipedia, là, c'est une autre question. (je réponds NON.) (à moins que chaque panneau touristique ait sa page wikipedia... pourquoi pas ? ) Voilà mes pensées. PS : je ne vois plus aucune erreur en france avec osmose sur le tag wikipedia, que se passe-t-il ? http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/?zoom=8lat=46.03516lon=0.344layers=BFFTitem=3031level=1,2 -- Les dérives de rue : Des textes à promenades http://drivrsdu.fr/des-textes-a-promenades/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
