[talk-ph] Tagging suggestion: opening_hours=24/7
Hi guys, To input the opening or operating hours of any establishment, you can use the opening_hours=* tag. The value has a special format and you can read about it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours For example, opening_hours=Mo-Sa 09:00-19:00 means that the establishment is open from 9 am to 7 pm Mondays to Saturdays. Entering this level of detail is completely optional. However, I would strongly suggest that you enter the special value 24/7 for establishments that are open 24 hours. More than the other formatted values, 24/7 is quite important to know and may be useful in emergencies (have you ever tried searching for a 24-hour Mercury Drug store to buy medicine in the middle of the night?). So, I personally don't care if you contribute values like Mo-Sa 09:00-19:00 or not. But I encourage you to tag 24-hour establishments. :-) Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tagging suggestion: opening_hours=24/7
+1 opening_hours=24/7 for 24-hour Mercury Drug and all other Major Drug Stores +1 opening_hours=24/7 for McDonalds /Jollibee other big fastfood chains etc... How about requesting Mercury Drug for their official list (including the branch names), maybe they can just update/email us whenever they open a new 24hour branch? :-) On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: Hi guys, To input the opening or operating hours of any establishment, you can use the opening_hours=* tag. The value has a special format and you can read about it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours For example, opening_hours=Mo-Sa 09:00-19:00 means that the establishment is open from 9 am to 7 pm Mondays to Saturdays. Entering this level of detail is completely optional. However, I would strongly suggest that you enter the special value 24/7 for establishments that are open 24 hours. More than the other formatted values, 24/7 is quite important to know and may be useful in emergencies (have you ever tried searching for a 24-hour Mercury Drug store to buy medicine in the middle of the night?). So, I personally don't care if you contribute values like Mo-Sa 09:00-19:00 or not. But I encourage you to tag 24-hour establishments. :-) Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] quiapo's electronics, photography and optical shops?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features shop=optician (optical shops, with optometrists - sells corrective lenses/prescription glasses) craft=optician amenity=doctors for full opthalmologist on clinics) - but if optha's office is in the Medical Arts building of a Medical Complex (hospital) - no need for tag. Camera: nearest related official osm tag is shop=electronics for Digicams (i don't know for the antique SLR cameras) any suggestion to tag combined camera/photo, video, multimedia equipt (eg projectors)? Gensets: on above link, hardware is described to sell bolts nuts, paints, but in PH local hardwares sell everything to build a house, tools, even construction materials such hollow blocks. So for this purpose, i'm more inclined to classify any shop selling none-automotive tools, more particularly made of metal: bolts, hammers, drills all it's accessories, gensets, grinders (whether powered or not) as a clue that it's a hardware. +1 for shop=hardware instead of shop=do_it_yourself DIY's also sell gensets (but on limited stocks only - for purpose of variety) if it sells purely paint, then shop=paint Before AceHardware, Handyman, True Value, builders depots... professionals craftsmen go to Evangelista in Quiapo, and more particularly Dasmarinas St in Binondo for special power tools, generator sets, welding machines, plumbers tool, lathe, etc. These power tools Portable Gensets other equipt are usually sold on the 'same' hardware shops (which are not your typical DYI stores which sell lightbulbs, sockets, antenna connectors, paints, wall fans bathroom cleaning stuff) besides Coleman's Powermate, is there any shop exclusively selling commercial-grade portable gensets? (maybe it's just an exception) - no need for a separate classification or icon On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:15 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote: i'm now populating POIs in quiapo after fixing routing around the area and nearby Sta. Cruz i wanted to add electronics shops on raon, optical shops on paterno, and photography shops on hidalgo and p gomez but i don't know how to tag them. for electronics: i temporarily used DIY for photography? optical: clinic? how about generators and power shops on evangelista? i may just add them with a name and FIXME tag for now -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ringwegen rond Genk
Jo wrote: Hmm, ik heb trunk altijd begrepen als expressweg. Expresswegen waar zwakke weggebruikers niet welkom zijn, dat is de definitie die ik gebruik. Wegen die als autoweg gesignaliseerd zijn vallen daaronder, en ook wegen met verbodsborden voor voetgangers en fietsers. En om volledig te zijn: als de autoweg enkel voor een tunnel of een brug is geldt de classificatie van de rest van de weg (dus autoweg betekent niet meteen trunk, maar autoweg betekent wel de tag motorroad=yes) Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ringwegen rond Genk
Ik ben 's in het Verenigd Koninkrijk gaan kijken en daar liggen wel degelijk fietspaden naast trunks: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52601lon=0.07934zoom=16layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.51939lon=0.04197zoom=17layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.523559lon=-0.265846zoom=18layers=M Polyglot Op 9 mei 2011 17:08 schreef Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com het volgende: Jo wrote: Hmm, ik heb trunk altijd begrepen als expressweg. Expresswegen waar zwakke weggebruikers niet welkom zijn, dat is de definitie die ik gebruik. Wegen die als autoweg gesignaliseerd zijn vallen daaronder, en ook wegen met verbodsborden voor voetgangers en fietsers. En om volledig te zijn: als de autoweg enkel voor een tunnel of een brug is geldt de classificatie van de rest van de weg (dus autoweg betekent niet meteen trunk, maar autoweg betekent wel de tag motorroad=yes) Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Ringwegen rond Genk
Jo wrote: Ik ben 's in het Verenigd Koninkrijk gaan kijken en daar liggen wel degelijk fietspaden naast trunks: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52601lon=0.07934zoom=16layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.51939lon=0.04197zoom=17layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.523559lon=-0.265846zoom=18layers=M Dat heeft een andere reden. Trunk is daar een aparte classificatie van de wegbeheerder, en ze volgen die hele classificatie strikt op in het VK. En die classificatie staat los van de vorm van de weg, een trunk kan daar bijvoorbeeld ook een drukke winkelstraat zijn. Omdat de andere Europese landen niets gelijkaardigs hebben zijn in de verschillende landen dan nieuwe definities gekomen, zoals expresswegen of autowegen. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Gent Thaçi wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
OMG, I am really really sorry, indeed. I didn't want to do this. I will be sure that this is the last mistake of mine. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-legal-talk] VDOT data release statement
The Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) today provided me with a data release statement, and I've been asked to run it by this list. You can find read it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Virginia_Department_of_Transportation They initially told me I could do whatever I want with the data, but then I asked for a statement, and so they created this. They've made it clear we can do whatever we want with the data, and don't need any form of attribution. Whether or not that comes out in the statement I'll leave to you. -Josh ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Hi, On 05/09/2011 06:21 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: The API is RESTful, and therefore should hold no state. OAuth is precisely the opposite of that. One could argue that at least the write API (which is the one mainly requiring authentication) is stateful already because you have to open a changeset and refer to that in every request. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 05/09/2011 06:21 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: The API is RESTful, and therefore should hold no state. OAuth is precisely the opposite of that. One could argue that at least the write API (which is the one mainly requiring authentication) is stateful already because you have to open a changeset and refer to that in every request. They could argue that, but they would be wrong. :) Statefulness in this context refers to the connection state. Neither the server nor client should be have to keep any connection state in between HTTP connections.. Changesets aren't part of the HTTP connection state. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Samat K Jain li...@samat.org wrote: On Saturday, May 07, 2011 08:26:28 AM Kai Krueger wrote: Yes, there is a fully functional OpenID implementation. http://openid.dev.openstreetmap.org/ However, it currently doesn't seem to have the political support necessary to get it merged. But perhaps if enough people express their interest this might change. What exactly do OpenID supporters need to do to express the requisite political support? The last thread on OpenID was one I started back in February: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OpenID-for-OpenStreetMap-td6010177.html This thread is repeating arguments already made… as in the thread that you refer to: On Feb 10, 2011; 9:15am, TomH wrote: Because there are a few outstanding issues with the implementation (yes, we have an implementation) that we need to resolve first. Actually, they're mostly not with the implementation but with the fact that the unit tests are currently broken on that branch. I know how to fix that now, but I haven't had time to do it. this is not a matter of political support, but a matter of fixing the broken unit tests for OpenID support. however, it seems that no-one really wants OpenID support enough to spend the time to fix them. i'm sure if you asked TomH nicely, he'll explain in more detail what needs to be done, if anyone feels like getting their hands dirty. cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Columbus / Visiontac voice logger
perhaps it is an option to install a faster microsd card? greets, floris On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Gr. I'm starting to get really pissed off at my Columbus / Vistiontac voice logger. It's a sweet piece of hardware, which logs GPS to a micro-SD card, streams to bluetooth, and records audio notes. Trouble I've been having is that it seems to be losing notes. I'm speculating that it fails to write a new note if it's already writing the previous note to the micro-SD card. So notes that come too fast after each other don't get saved. Has anybody else noticed this, and if so, what have you done for a work-around? I'm starting to think that I should just use a plain audio recorder with a plain GPS logger, and post-process them. -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: The first solution, using OAuth against what was a RESTful API, is bad. Whether OAuth fits the ideology of a RESTful API or not, it is already heavily used in OpenStreetMap. OAuth is the preferred method of authenticating JOSM against the API, it is the only(?) way that Potlatch 2 can authenticate, various other editors and POI collectors currently use OAuth and it is the recommended way to talk to the API. If I remember correctly at some point even the idea of disabling password based authentication was briefly maintained to prevent the password being sent in cleartext all the time. So given that OAuth is already heavily used, I don't see an issue with relying on it for the purpose of OpenID. And should you really want to use one of those few applications that don't support OAuth yet, there is the option of still using the password, although indeed that would defeat much of the purpose of OpenID. Kai -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/User-diary-enhancements-subscriptions-Facebook-Twitter-integration-tp6340003p6344736.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] 'How do you map in...? series
The Novosibirsk write-up was fascinating, thank you! -mike. On May 7, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Matthias Meißer wrote: Hi there, during my work in the usergroups map i got in contact with a lot of local communities and I became interested to know how different mapping might be in different countries with other technical and cultural problems. Thats why I started the 'How do you map in...' series and hopefully mappers from all over the world will contribute a short story on how their local communities (or the individual mappers) work, communicate and how others make use on their results. So I just create a simple platform, it's up to you to fill it with interesting content :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_do_you_map_in For the first issue I asked the folks over at Russia to write an article and yes now they show us how mapping is working there. Thanks user:siberiano ! I would be happy if some others could translate the article and make it available to your local communities. If anybody is interested for the next issue, or would be interested in knowing how to map in nation X, feel free to drop a line on the wiki talk pages. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_do_you_map_in/new bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Gent Thaçi wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
LinkedIn Licensing, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Gent Thaçi Gent Thaçi Project Leader at Prishtina Buses Albania Confirm that you know Gent Thaçi https://www.linkedin.com/e/dcvf8l-gnhp1uoj-e/isd/2841965635/aALqRUd3/ -- (c) 2011, LinkedIn Corporation___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk] Gent Thaçi wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
LinkedIn I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Gent Thaçi Gent Thaçi Project Leader at Prishtina Buses Albania Confirm that you know Gent Thaçi https://www.linkedin.com/e/-eqth9r-gnhp2vhx-6x/isd/2841982698/kXs6mxmo/ -- (c) 2011, LinkedIn Corporation___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Gent Thaçi wants to stay in touch on LinkedIn
OMG, I am really really sorry, indeed. I didn't want to do this. I will be sure that this is the last mistake of mine. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: The first solution, using OAuth against what was a RESTful API, is bad. Whether OAuth fits the ideology of a RESTful API or not, it is already heavily used in OpenStreetMap. One of the strengths of OSM is its clear, simple API. It's actually one the best APIs I've seen in the wild. You're proposing to break the API and the design methodology that the API is built on. OAuth is the preferred method of authenticating JOSM against the API, it is the only(?) way that Potlatch 2 can authenticate, various other editors and POI collectors currently use OAuth and it is the recommended way to talk to the API. If I remember correctly at some point even the idea of disabling password based authentication was briefly maintained to prevent the password being sent in cleartext all the time. Let's not forget that we're discussing OpenID, not OAuth, but secondly, everything related to authentication has security implications. The one you mentioned is easily fixed with SSL. OpenID itself has an issue a few days ago: http://openid.net/2011/05/05/attribute-exchange-security-alert So given that OAuth is already heavily used, I don't see an issue with relying on it for the purpose of OpenID. I don't have a problem with, and even like OAuth, except when it comes to the API. I don't like the idea of OAuth being required for a RESTful API. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] advertising against google map maker
I was curious about advertising for OSM against people searching for the chocolate factory maps. Hopefully those 206 clicks turned in to some real data but I don't want to continue to pay for the ads. Results: Account Overview: 206 Clicks 181,308 Impressions 0.11% Clickthrough Rate UK£0.58 Average CPC UK£119.52 Total Cost Keywords with the Most Clicks: map maker google mapmaker google map maker mapmaker Ad with the Most Clicks: OpenStreetMap The wikipedia of maps you can edit Help a free, open map of the world! openstreetmap.org Display Sites with the Most Clicks geology.com maplandia.com vpike.com mail.google.com ehow.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] androiden
Een i9000 van Samsung. Het is wel Opnieuw leren omgaan met je mobiel. Lekker groot scherm. Instellen als Wifi accesspoint en werken met 5 laptops tegelijk. Handig voor een Mapping Party. ;-) Robert Citeren Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org: 2011/5/8 Robert Elsenaar rob...@elsenaar.info Martijn, Vanaf dit weekend ook de gelukkige bezitter van een androïd. IK heb ook vandaag direct wat experimentjes gemaakt met OSMTracker. Heel veel gelukt, maar nog veel te ontdekken. Wat mij alleen nog niet lukt is een geluidsbestand (.gpp) binnen JOSm af te spelen. Heb jij (jullie) daar ook mee geworsteld of sta ik daar alleen in? Zelf nooit geprobeerd. Heb je op de wiki gezocht? Of stel een vraag op het forum of help.osm.org. Er zijn vast meer die met dat bijltje hebben gehakt. Wat voor een toestel heb je? -- Martijn van Exel http://about.me/mvexel ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [talk-au] Canberra mapping - nearly up-to-date.
On 9 May 2011 01:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
These current edits are of value to OSM, newly developed roads in
developing suburbs ('some of which already have people living on them').
How can newly developed roads be mapped from Bing?
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Re: [talk-au] Canberra Mapping - out of date
On 8 May 2011 17:47, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2011 10:33, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 21:22 +1000, Nick Hocking wrote: Unfortunately this has meant that Canberra OSM data is now badly out of date. I have recently heard of a situation where up-to-date Canberra data could have been *extremely* usefull to somebody. What's more of a shame is the fact existing roads are being remapped when there is tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of rural roads that could be mapped from Bing that isn't already mapped. Oh and if anyone is looking to redo vector data from Bing, Tamworth, NSW has a lot of poorly aligned roads based on survey data. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Canberra mapping - nearly up-to-date.
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 17:03 +1000, John Smith wrote:
On 9 May 2011 01:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
These current edits are of value to OSM, newly developed roads in
developing suburbs ('some of which already have people living on them').
How can newly developed roads be mapped from Bing?
The newly developed roads he has done by survey, including street names.
I have extended and verified this coverage with the available nearmap
imagery. The same area in bing is shown as grassed paddocks. Check
around the following way and you can see the difference between
bing/nearmap for this area:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/41119687
David
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Re: [talk-au] Queensland border and the MacIntyre River...
On 09/05/11 14:32, Christoph Donges wrote: My father, who lived on a property adjoining the river near Texas for many years says he always believed the boarder ran down the center of the river. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 2:07 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 May 2011 13:39, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: I'd say the centre of the main channel as the only sign I've ever seen there is half way across a bridge. The bridge at Texas has the sign on the southern side of the bridge, but the 'Welcome to Qld/NSW' sign is on the northern side. I originally was not going to buy into this discussion, as I then clearly had no idea. However, since, I have found this document: http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/property/surveying/pdf/qld_nsw_border.pdf - encouragingly titled: Redefining the Queensland–New South Wales Border: Guidelines for Surveyors. To save you ploughing through it, the lightning summary seems to be since 1946 the mid-line of the river is the answer you want. (If you want to get technical, it should be the median line of the riverbanks as they existed in 1859... the big catch is, they were not actually surveyed then, so the dispute had to be resettled in 1946, and confirmed in 1993, and reconfirmed in 2008 For the keen: Section 4.3 esp. item 3: Case history 3: River boundary regarding past legal disputes; and Section 5.2 River Section are the relevant parts. Hope this helps. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [Talk-br] Cafofo do OSAMA
Aqui: http://goo.gl/PARxR :) 2011/5/9 Guilherme Dagostin Donadel gdona...@gmail.com Alguem já encontrou a casa onde o Osama foi morto? Guilherme D'Agostin Donadel ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-is] Bakka með breytingu sem rauf tengingu stíga ?
Sæl Ég hefði át að kveikja á perunni fyrr, en átakið Hjólað í vinnuna ytir eftir mér að skoða betur hvernig hjolacefsja.is virkar. Rötunarvélin virkar núna nánast ekki, amk í Reylkjavík. Kerfið sér að stígar séu eylönd, enda eru stíganir skilgreindir þannig í LUKR. Mér fyndist betra að hafa bæði inni, þangað til búið séw að tengja saman LUKR-stígana. Nema mjög veigamikill rök hniga að því að gera það ekki. ( Eða ef vænta megi góða tengingu stíga, og gangstétta innan fárra daga ) -- Regards / Kvedja Morten Lange, Reykjavík ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
Re: [Talk-is] Bakka með breytingu sem rauf tengingu stíga ?
Hæ. Þetta vandamál er hálfgert mér að kenna þar sem ég hef verið að stroka út stíga sem tengjast við enda gatna við yfirferð á LUKR stígum og það veldur greinilega vandræðum fyrir leiðarvélina þar sem tengingin er rofin við enda gatna. Ég skal fara í að laga þetta fyrir hverfin sem ég hef unnið með. Hjólavefsjáin er samt að nota gömul gögn eins og sjá má af þeirri staðreynd að Grafarvogurinn og 104 Reykjavík eru löngu búin hvað stígana varðar en samt koma þeir ekki fram þar. Ef vandamálið er einnig þar er þetta einnig almennt vandamál með leiðarvélina og ekki bara í því sem ég gerði. Gæturðu annars komið með dæmi svo við getum vandamálagreint þetta betur? Með kveðju, Svavar Kjarrval On 09/05/11 15:12, Morten Lange wrote: Sæl Ég hefði át að kveikja á perunni fyrr, en átakið Hjólað í vinnuna ytir eftir mér að skoða betur hvernig hjolacefsja.is virkar. Rötunarvélin virkar núna nánast ekki, amk í Reylkjavík. Kerfið sér að stígar séu eylönd, enda eru stíganir skilgreindir þannig í LUKR. Mér fyndist betra að hafa bæði inni, þangað til búið séw að tengja saman LUKR-stígana. Nema mjög veigamikill rök hniga að því að gera það ekki. ( Eða ef vænta megi góða tengingu stíga, og gangstétta innan fárra daga ) -- Regards / Kvedja Morten Lange, Reykjavík ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
Re: [Talk-is] Bakka með breytingu sem rauf tengingu stíga ?
Hæ Svavar, Takk fyrir svar. Dæmi eru meðfram Suðurlandsbraut. Tek undir að þetta sé leiðarvalvélina að kenna líka. Svo er spurning hvort ekki mætti merkja ALLAR götur og stígar með bicycle=yes, því það má hjóla alsstaðar, nema á gangstéttum á Laugavegi eftir sumum stígum eftir Ægissíðu og inn í Fossvog, og loks í Hvalfjarðargöngunum. -- Regards / Kvedja Morten Lange, Reykjavík From: Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is To: OpenStreetMap in Iceland talk-is@openstreetmap.org Sent: Mon, 9 May, 2011 16:00:20 Subject: Re: [Talk-is] Bakka með breytingu sem rauf tengingu stíga ? Hæ. Þetta vandamál er hálfgert mér að kenna þar sem ég hef verið að stroka út stíga sem tengjast við enda gatna við yfirferð á LUKR stígum og það veldur greinilega vandræðum fyrir leiðarvélina þar sem tengingin er rofin við enda gatna. Ég skal fara í að laga þetta fyrir hverfin sem ég hef unnið með. Hjólavefsjáin er samt að nota gömul gögn eins og sjá má af þeirri staðreynd að Grafarvogurinn og 104 Reykjavík eru löngu búin hvað stígana varðar en samt koma þeir ekki fram þar. Ef vandamálið er einnig þar er þetta einnig almennt vandamál með leiðarvélina og ekki bara í því sem ég gerði. Gæturðu annars komið með dæmi svo við getum vandamálagreint þetta betur? Með kveðju, Svavar Kjarrval On 09/05/11 15:12, Morten Lange wrote: Sæl Ég hefði át að kveikja á perunni fyrr, en átakið Hjólað í vinnuna ytir eftir mér að skoða betur hvernig hjolacefsja.is virkar. Rötunarvélin virkar núna nánast ekki, amk í Reylkjavík. Kerfið sér að stígar séu eylönd, enda eru stíganir skilgreindir þannig í LUKR. Mér fyndist betra að hafa bæði inni, þangað til búið séw að tengja saman LUKR-stígana. Nema mjög veigamikill rök hniga að því að gera það ekki. ( Eða ef vænta megi góða tengingu stíga, og gangstétta innan fárra daga ) -- Regards / Kvedja Morten Lange, Reykjavík ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is ___ Talk-is mailing list Talk-is@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-is
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Am 8. Mai 2011 10:30 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Verstehe ich das richtig, dass motorcar nicht mehr LKWs enthalten soll? ob die bisher enthalten waren, (und was enthalten bedeutet), ist ja nicht vollständig klar. Zumindest in den Mapfeatures (access) waren sie die meiste Zeit nicht explizit drin (nur in der deutschen Übersetzung), und auf der Key-Definition von motorcar steht bis heute, dass das PKW sind. Ich hätte kein Problem damit, motorcar als PKW zu definieren, und wenn ich einen Router programmieren würde, wo eine Straße nur für PKW gesperrt ist, für LKW aber keine Aussagen getroffen werden, würde ich trotzdem annehmen, dass die da auch nicht lang dürfen. Warum nicht einfach 'car' für Autos (ohne LKW) ? ich fände es unglücklich, wenn wir 2 tags hätten, einen car und einen motorcar, die unterschiedliche Bedeutung hätten. Sowas führt zu Verwirrung und Prolemen. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Am 09.05.2011 09:38, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 8. Mai 2011 10:30 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Verstehe ich das richtig, dass motorcar nicht mehr LKWs enthalten soll? ob die bisher enthalten waren, (und was enthalten bedeutet), ist ja nicht vollständig klar. Zumindest in den Mapfeatures (access) waren sie die meiste Zeit nicht explizit drin (nur in der deutschen Übersetzung), und auf der Key-Definition von motorcar steht bis heute, dass das PKW sind. Mit anderen Worten: mit den jetzigen Daten kann man keinen verlässlichen LKW Router programmieren ;-) Ich habe jedenfalls bei Zeichen 251 (und Varianten) nie ein hgv=no dazugefügt. Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSMF
Am 8. Mai 2011 10:44 schrieb Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: Und dann muesste man edit fuer edit untersuchen ob die PD edit von einem CC-BY-SA edit abgeleitet haben, oder ob der zustimmern an einem CC-BY-SA import teigenommen hat. Wer Daten mit einer CC-BY-SA-Lizenz importiert hat, kann/konnte nie seine Beiträge als PD lizensieren, von daher sollte sich das Problem gar nicht stellen. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Am 9. Mai 2011 09:54 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Mit anderen Worten: mit den jetzigen Daten kann man keinen verlässlichen LKW Router programmieren ;-) ja, das würde ich auch vermuten, dafür sind allgemein die Angaben doch noch zu lückenhaft. Ich habe jedenfalls bei Zeichen 251 (und Varianten) nie ein hgv=no dazugefügt. Die Frage ist hier ja, wie geht ein Router mit uneindeutigen/unvollständigen Informationen um. Zusammengefasst kann man sagen, dass das Wiki sich hier selbst widerspricht, und diese Situation durch den Edit, wo jemand im Oktober 2010 versucht hat, die englische Seite an die deutsche anzupassen (m.E. wäre der sauberere Weg, vor allem wenn man nicht diskuttiert oder ankündigt, gewesen, die deutsche Seite anzupassen), nicht vollständig behoben. Die Daten, die bis dato in der Datenbank waren, bedeuten ja nicht gleich automatisch was anderes, nur weil man das Wiki ändert. Ich habe motorcar=no praktisch nie verwendet, seit es motor_vehicle gibt. Ich habe dabei aber z.B. auch nie Pedelecs (Fahrräder mit Hilfsmotor, nicht versicherungspflichtig, nicht anmeldepflichtig, steuerfrei, Höchstgeschwindigkeit nicht über 25km/h) ausgenommen, obwohl der Wortlaut des Wiki (zumindest im Moment) das so erfordern würde. Dafür haben wir AFAIK nicht mal einen tag (braucht man ja auch nicht, sind rechtlich in D. dasselbe wie Fahrräder). Ich war davon ausgegangen, dass das Wiki an dieser Stelle unsauber geschrieben ist, und diese Fahrzeuge, (genauso wie Krankenfahrstühle) nicht automatisch mit eingeschlossen sind. Nach wie vor finde ich es inakzeptabel, wenn ein access-tag (oder sonst ein tag, wobei access halt zu den Stammtags gehört) ohne Ankündigung oder Diskussion einfach so im Wiki in seiner Bedeutung verändert wird. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Hi, On 05/09/11 11:48, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Mit anderen Worten: mit den jetzigen Daten kann man keinen verlässlichen LKW Router programmieren ;-) ja, das würde ich auch vermuten, dafür sind allgemein die Angaben doch noch zu lückenhaft. Projekt Bruecken-Durchfahrtshoehen, anyone? ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PkS6LnirRI Bye Frederik ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Garmin: Mehrere Länder in einer gmapsupp.img?
Hallo Jörg So der Splitter klappt wieder (man solte einfach die Cache-Option weglassen) http://dev.openstreetmap.de/aio/europe-daily/img/ Hier findest du alle was du brauchst. Wenn du ne NSIS für Windows erzeugen willst denk an das 2GB Limit. Ich installiere die IMG einfach später von Hand nach. Lg Dirk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Probleme bei Erzeugung von SVG mit nik2img
Hallo zusammen, bisher habe ich unter Opensuse 11.3 immer mit nik2img svg's erzeugt. Habe dazu den deutschen Kartenstill und die symbols_de verwendet. Alles hat immer funktioniert. Nach einen Update auf opensuse 11.4 werden nicht mehr alle Symbole in die Karten gerendert. Es fehlen zum Beispiel die Straßenschilder um die Beschriftung der Bundesstraßen (B4.png oder B5.png), das Symbol hospital2.png wird aber gerendert. Wenn man mit nik2img ein png erstellt ist alles ok. Das Problem tritt auch beim Original osm-Stil auf. Kann das was mit dem Farbprofil der png's zu tun haben? Das hospital2.png hat zumindest ein anderes als das B4.png. Nutze mapnik 0.7.1 und die aktuelle nik2img. Ids JeanMoulin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Taginfo Ideen (War: Taginfo Developer Workshop)
Am 7. Mai 2011 14:48 schrieb Hermann Peifer pei...@gmx.eu: 30 der 80 Objekte haben den Tag amenity=advertising. Vielleicht kannst Du das bei deinem Proposal noch berücksichtigen. m.E. bringt das nichts, advertising=xy sagt schon alles, eine Dopplung mit amenity könnte höchstens dafür sorgen, dass das Objekt mit osm2pgsql (und ähnlichen) importiert wird, ohne den standard style anzupassen. Das muss aber gar nicht unbedingt sinnvoll sein, bläht ja die lokale Datenbank dann auch für all diejenigen auf, die gar kein Interesse an Plakatwänden haben (von denen es potenziell Millionen in der db geben wird). Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Werbeelemente im öffentlichen Raum / advertising , WAR Re: Taginfo Ideen (War: Taginfo Developer Workshop)
Am 7. Mai 2011 11:51 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/advertising Habe die Seite anhand der Vorschläge auf der Diskussionsseite im Wiki und der Vorschläge auf der ML ein bisschen ergänzt. Weitere Vorschläge gerne auch hier (neuer Thread), bitte nicht weiter im Taginfo-thread. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Zitat von M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Nach wie vor finde ich es inakzeptabel, wenn ein access-tag (oder sonst ein tag, wobei access halt zu den Stammtags gehört) ohne Ankündigung oder Diskussion einfach so im Wiki in seiner Bedeutung verändert wird. Als dieser ominöse Änderer möcht ich auch noch was dazu sagen. ;-) Auf der access-Wiki-Seite stand und steht hinter motorcar als nähere Beschreibung motor vehicles with more than 2 wheels/more than 1 track - und da gehören LKWs zweifelsohne mit dazu. Für mich war es daher nichts als logisch, die Hierarchie der Beschreibung (übereinstimmend mit der deutschen Wiki-Seite) anzupassen. Ich glaube auch, dass die Hierarchie-Stufe 'zweispurige Motorfahrzeuge' notwendig ist (sofern man denn eine Hierarchie haben will). Ob 'motorcar' der geeignete Begriff ist? Darüber lässt sich natürlich gut streiten - allerdings wird das Auto (von vorne) häufig verwendet, um die Durchfahrt von zweispurigen Kraftfahrzeugen zu verbieten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_European_traffic_signs [Die Beschreibung für UK ist übrigens verkürzt, auch dort dürfen 'solo motor cycles' weiterfahren.] Da ich bisher kein Land kenne, in welchem es ein Verbotsschild gibt, das nur für Autos und nicht für LKWs gilt, gehe ich davon aus, dass die alleremeisten highway=* mit motorcar=no eines der oben verlinkten Verbotsschilder haben - und somit übereinstimmend mit der 'meiner' Wiki-Version getagged sind. IMHO brauchen wir also einen neuen Key für Autos - und nicht eine 'Rückverschiebung' von motorcar. Gruss, Thomas ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Am 9. Mai 2011 14:50 schrieb Thomas Ineichen osm.mailingl...@t-i.ch: Zitat von M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Als dieser ominöse Änderer möcht ich auch noch was dazu sagen. ;-) danke. Ich bezweifle ja auch nicht, dass die Änderungen mit guter Absicht gemacht wurden. Auf der access-Wiki-Seite stand und steht hinter motorcar als nähere Beschreibung motor vehicles with more than 2 wheels/more than 1 track - Das kann man so isoliert nicht sehen. Anfangs waren alle Verkehrsmittel nebeneinander aufgelistet, also ohne Hierarchie. Zwischenzeitlich kam dann jemand auf die Idee, eine Hierarchie zu bilden, und das sah dann zunächst so aus: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:accessoldid=231845 Motorcar war da immer noch ein Fahrzeugtyp wie LKW, Schneemobile und Gefahrguttransporter auch. Am 3. Oktober 2009 hat ein User dann entschieden, dass motorcar nicht bloß Autos beschreiben sollte, sondern eine Kategorie sei, für alle Fahrzeuge mit mehr als 2 Rädern / 1 Spur. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:accessoldid=350316 Es gab aber bereits seit 2008 eine Seite speziell für motorcar, auf der wie heute auch noch klar das steht, was bis dahin Konsens und Definition war (Description: Access permission for cars.). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:motorcaroldid=194411 Ich glaube auch, dass die Hierarchie-Stufe 'zweispurige Motorfahrzeuge' notwendig ist (sofern man denn eine Hierarchie haben will). ja, sehe ich auch als sinnvoll an. Ob 'motorcar' der geeignete Begriff ist? Darüber lässt sich natürlich gut streiten - naja, da der Begriff (in OSM) schon für Autos belegt ist, würde ich ehrlich gesagt was anderes nehmen und finde auch nicht, dass man da besonders gut drüber streiten kann. Da ich bisher kein Land kenne, in welchem es ein Verbotsschild gibt, das nur für Autos und nicht für LKWs gilt, gehe ich davon aus, dass die alleremeisten highway=* mit motorcar=no eines der oben verlinkten Verbotsschilder haben - und somit übereinstimmend mit der 'meiner' Wiki-Version getagged sind. Es gibt ein Gebotsschild z.B. beim Parken. Mir ist hier auch bereits ein Freitext-Schild aufgefallen, das die Einfahrt durch jegliche Verkehrs untersagt, und dann im Textteil (ausser Autos) die Autos wieder ausnimmt ( http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/6059575 ) Es spricht m.E. auch nichts dagegen, als Router-regeln-ersteller erstmal anzunehmen, dass ein Verbot für Autos in OSM-Daten auch für LKW gilt, vor allem, wenn ein hgv-tag fehlt. Deshalb muss man aber nicht die Aussage des tags motorcar ändern, sondern man interpretiert dort eben was hinein, was üblicherweise gelten wird, aber so explizit da nicht drin steht. IMHO brauchen wir also einen neuen Key für Autos - und nicht eine 'Rückverschiebung' von motorcar. -1, Ich wiederhole mich da zwar, aber am Argument ändert sich nichts: es ist niemandem nahezubringen, dass motorcar alle 2-spurigen Fahrzeuge beinhalten soll und car nur Autos. Die tags sollten sich auch mit gesundem Menschenverstand lesen lassen können, und zumindest nicht irreführend sein. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Am 9. Mai 2011 12:07 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Projekt Bruecken-Durchfahrtshoehen, anyone? ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PkS6LnirRI nice. Gut, dass wenigstens die Statik ordentlich gemacht wurde ;-) Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Hi, Am 09.05.2011, 15:34 Uhr, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 9. Mai 2011 14:50 schrieb Thomas Ineichen osm.mailingl...@t-i.ch: Da ich bisher kein Land kenne, in welchem es ein Verbotsschild gibt, das nur für Autos und nicht für LKWs gilt, gehe ich davon aus, dass die alleremeisten highway=* mit motorcar=no eines der oben verlinkten Verbotsschilder haben - und somit übereinstimmend mit der 'meiner' Wiki-Version getagged sind. Es gibt ein Gebotsschild z.B. beim Parken. Nur mal so zur allgemeinen Entspannung (ohne sinnvolle Auswirkung auf die eigentliche Diskussion): Darf ich hier mit meinem 12-Tonner parken? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:No_parking_except_cars.jpg (und: ist das was anderes als ein blaues P mit diesem drunter?) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zusatzzeichen_1048-10.svg?uselang=de Viele Grüße, Kay ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Am 09.05.2011 um 14:50 schrieb Thomas Ineichen: Zitat von M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Nach wie vor finde ich es inakzeptabel, wenn ein access-tag (oder sonst ein tag, wobei access halt zu den Stammtags gehört) ohne Ankündigung oder Diskussion einfach so im Wiki in seiner Bedeutung verändert wird. Als dieser ominöse Änderer möcht ich auch noch was dazu sagen. ;-) Auf der access-Wiki-Seite stand und steht hinter motorcar als nähere Beschreibung motor vehicles with more than 2 wheels/more than 1 track - und da gehören LKWs zweifelsohne mit dazu. Für mich war es daher nichts als logisch, die Hierarchie der Beschreibung (übereinstimmend mit der deutschen Wiki-Seite) anzupassen. Ich glaube auch, dass die Hierarchie-Stufe 'zweispurige Motorfahrzeuge' notwendig ist (sofern man denn eine Hierarchie haben will). Ob 'motorcar' der geeignete Begriff ist? Darüber lässt sich natürlich gut streiten - allerdings wird das Auto (von vorne) häufig verwendet, um die Durchfahrt von zweispurigen Kraftfahrzeugen zu verbieten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_European_traffic_signs [Die Beschreibung für UK ist übrigens verkürzt, auch dort dürfen 'solo motor cycles' weiterfahren.] Da ich bisher kein Land kenne, in welchem es ein Verbotsschild gibt, das nur für Autos und nicht für LKWs gilt, gehe ich davon aus, dass die alleremeisten highway=* mit motorcar=no eines der oben verlinkten Verbotsschilder haben - und somit übereinstimmend mit der 'meiner' Wiki-Version getagged sind. IMHO brauchen wir also einen neuen Key für Autos - und nicht eine 'Rückverschiebung' von motorcar. Der Tag heißt aber motorcar und nicht Zeichen 251, und eine kurze Recherche zeigt auch, dass motor car eben keine LKW, Busse oder ähliche großen Fahrzeuge mit einschließt. Und das ist jetzt keine Haarspalterei, sondern ein echtes Problem (IMO): da wir Beschränkungen auf Straßen, Parkplätzen etc. mappen, und nicht die Verkehrszeichen, die diese Beschränkungen angeben, müssen wir als Mapper immer eine Übersetzung von Zeichen zu Tag vornehmen. Wie auch immer die Diskussion ausgehen sollte, muss dieses Mapping genauer dokumentiert werden. Das ist doch offensichtlich klappt eben nur relativ beschränkt, und über verschiedene Zeichensysteme hinweg nur noch sehr eingeschränkt. Was einige hier (scheinbar) bei der Diskussion ignorieren: neben den Straßen gibt es auch noch andere Kartenelemente, für die es Beschränkungen der Fahrzeugklasse gibt, und da ist es keineswegs selbstverständlich, PKW mit PKW und alles, was größer ist gleichzusetzen. Ein bisschen Wiki-Historie: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:accessoldid=324800 Hier taucht die Hierarchie zum ersten mal auf, automobile ist eine Unterkategorie von motorcar http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:accessoldid=326403 Der selbe Autor Cjw korrigiert seine Hierarchie, um Übereinstimmung mit dem Bild zu erreichen. automobile und motorcar stehen nebeneinander; automobile wird aber schon als überflüssig beschrieben. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Access_modes.png http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:accessoldid=327308 automobile fliegt raus. (vsandre) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:accessoldid=327454 Die Icons kommen hinzu (vsandre); hier fängt die Verwirrung endgültig an, denn motorcar erhält das Auto von der Seite, was eigentlich (1048-10) nur PKW kennzeichnet. Es gibt zwar ein Icon für double tracked (nämlich aus 251), aber keinen Key. Übrigens hatte keiner dieser Edits, die ja doch teils erhebliche Änderungen an der Bedeutung der Tags verursachten, einen vernünftigen Kommentar, geschweige denn einen Hinweis auf eine Diskussion zum Thema. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de Fon +49 151 14070811 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wikifiddling, access car / motor_car
Am 9. Mai 2011 16:00 schrieb Stefan Bethke s...@lassitu.de: Übrigens hatte keiner dieser Edits, die ja doch teils erhebliche Änderungen an der Bedeutung der Tags verursachten, einen vernünftigen Kommentar, geschweige denn einen Hinweis auf eine Diskussion zum Thema. Es gab in meiner Erinnerung auch keine solche Diskussion, jedenfalls nicht auf der deutschen, geschweige denn der tagging-Mailingliste. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Il 08 maggio 2011 23:26, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Nonostante il cognome sono trentino e quindi confinante con i veneti per cui ho presente il pragmatismo. E io che lo dicevo in tono scherzoso... :-) Della mia proposta puoi tagliare benissimo la parte sui suggerimenti di licenze, il tuo Buona Idea mi sembra pero' che concordi sul fatto che invece che una richiesta ad hoc per osm, sarebbe meglio chiedere alla Regione di usare una politica di licenze aperte a diversi scopi. Credo che si possa chiedere prima di cambiare il permesso ottenuto nella precedente richiesta e poi suggerire di allargare il concetto. Insomma: penso che se si imposta bene la domanda si possa ottenere sicuramente il permesso per passare ad un cambio di permesso per OSM, ma di dare anche uno scossone sul fronte open data. Scusa ma non ho capito: dici che allora procediamo con l'invio della richiesta? Senza attendere il documento che state preparando? Dove si trova il documento che state elaborando? Finora era solo negli archivi della mailing list, l'ho spostato anche qui: http://goo.gl/69axe così tutti lo possono modificare. Ciao! Paolo P. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Scusa ma non ho capito: dici che allora procediamo con l'invio della richiesta? Senza attendere il documento che state preparando? Il documento e' praticamente fatto. Stiamo aspettando alcune sottoscrizioni importanti. Quindi e' questione di pochissimo tempo, appena uscito si va alla carica :) Si parte chiedendo il permesso per OSM (gia' lo hanno dato e quindi si spera continuino) ma si chiedera' di fare un passo in piu' Ok? Dove si trova il documento che state elaborando? Finora era solo negli archivi della mailing list, l'ho spostato anche qui: http://goo.gl/69axe così tutti lo possono modificare. Perfetto! ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Il 09 maggio 2011 08:57, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Scusa ma non ho capito: dici che allora procediamo con l'invio della richiesta? Senza attendere il documento che state preparando? Il documento e' praticamente fatto. Stiamo aspettando alcune sottoscrizioni importanti. Quindi e' questione di pochissimo tempo, appena uscito si va alla carica :) Si parte chiedendo il permesso per OSM (gia' lo hanno dato e quindi si spera continuino) ma si chiedera' di fare un passo in piu' Ok? Lo prendo come un aspettiamo. Paolo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Lo prendo come un aspettiamo. Si ... ma guarda e' questione di pochi giorni. Nel frattempo vediamo di convergere sul documento con la richiesta. Grazie! ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Il 09/05/2011 13:12, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Lo prendo come un aspettiamo. Si ... ma guarda e' questione di pochi giorni. Nel frattempo vediamo di convergere sul documento con la richiesta. Scusa la curiosità, posso intuire il senso di questo documento di GFOSS.it, ma non l'ho mai letto. Esiste una versione preliminare, una bozza o qualcosa da leggere? Oppure verrà resa pubblico nel momento in cui verrà inviato alle PA? Mentre aspettiamo ad inviare la nostra email almeno leggiamo la vostra :-)) Grazie! Ciao Giuliano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Il 09 maggio 2011 13:27, G Zamboni gd.zamb...@tiscali.it ha scritto: Il 09/05/2011 13:12, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Lo prendo come un aspettiamo. Si ... ma guarda e' questione di pochi giorni. Nel frattempo vediamo di convergere sul documento con la richiesta. Scusa la curiosità, posso intuire il senso di questo documento di GFOSS.it, ma non l'ho mai letto. Esiste una versione preliminare, una bozza o qualcosa da leggere? Oppure verrà resa pubblico nel momento in cui verrà inviato alle PA? Mentre aspettiamo ad inviare la nostra email almeno leggiamo la vostra :-)) Grazie! Ciao Giuliano Vedi messaggio precedente: http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.odt http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.pdf http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.xhtml Paolo P. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] tile osmarenderer non aggiornato o errato
Il 05/06/2011 04:52 PM, Simone Saviolo scrisse: Allora prova ad aspettare ancora, tenendo d'occhio lo stato della richiesta. Se dovesse sparire la tua richiesta, o se dovesse non più essere active, rifalla. La richiesta sta ancora li'... Dubbio. Ogni volta che vado a verificare su quella pagina lo stato del tile e della richiesta, il nome del renderer e' cambiato. Non e' per caso che si verifica qualche errore o il gruppo di tile da rigenerare e' troppo grande e quindi la richiesta viene rimpallata da un renderer all'altro? ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Il 09/05/2011 13:58, Paolo Pozzan ha scritto: . Vedi messaggio precedente: http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.odt http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.pdf http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.xhtml Se non ho visto questi link scusatemi, ma cercando nel thread mi era parso che non ci fosse nulla. Che ti abbia scritto personalmente? Ciao Giuliano Paolo P. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ascensori centro storico
2011/5/8 totera g...@hotmail.it: Salve ragazzi, ennesimo dubbio: come si mappano gli ascensori dei centri storici disposti su più livelli? Ho cercato tramite google senza trovare nulla al riguardo. Anch'io ho usato highway=elevator, che è anche mostrato da OSM Inspector (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_mixedlon=12lat=42zoom=5overlays=elevators) +1, ci sono 865 usi di highway=elevator http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/search?q=highway%3Delevator#tags visto la scarza occorenza di questi ascensori direi si tratta di un tag ben stabilito. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Prossimamente: programmi per sette mesi...da Matera ad Amburgo, passando per Calangianus - (ERA:..io la butto lì... )
[scusandomi per eventuali doppie tramissioni]
Ciao,
faccio seguito a un mio messaggio di qualche tempo fa in lista gfoss... (19
maggio 2007)...
vi invito a leggere sotto e vi aspettiamo nelle sedi che vorrete
raggiungere.
un saluto e a dopo!
Andrea
http://www.pibinko.org
-- Messaggio inoltrato --
Da: Andrea Giacomelli (pibinko) i...@pibinko.org
Date: 08 maggio 2011 15:31
Oggetto: Prossimamente: programmi per sette mesi...da Matera ad Amburgo,
passando per Calangianus
A:
Buongiorno,
Vi scriviamo perché negli scorsi quattro anni e mezzo abbiamo avuto modo di
corrispondere su temi quali cultura, ambiente e innovazione libera (a volte
tutti e tre assieme).
Nel seguito
1. INTRODUZIONE
2. IN PRATICA
3. DI CHI/DI CHE COSA ABBIAMO BISOGNO
4. CONCLUSIONE
5. TITOLI DI CODA
*1. INTRODUZIONE*
Per chi non avesse memoria immediata di questi scambi, vi invitiamo a
visitare il sito www.pibinko.org (in particolare le sezioni progetti o
blog)
Volevamo comunicarvi che sta per cominciare la nostra Campagna 2011.
I temi portanti della Campagna 2011 saranno la BuioMetria Partecipativa e
più in generale il m(')appare, entrambi lanciati nel 2008 e maturati negli
scorsi tre anni attraverso numerose iniziative sul territorio.
Non trascureremo poi altri temi già cari, come la palla eh/palla a 21, la
realizzazione di video, la biodiversità, o l'utilizzo dosato di software
libero.
Come sottofondo di tutto...le sette note...la musica: meglio se dal vivo e a
volume che poi non ti fischiano le orecchie alla fine del concerto.
Nella Campagna 2011, in collaborazione con vari soggetti, abbiamo
programmato circa venti iniziative fra il 21 maggio e la fine dell'anno.
Questi eventi si svolgeranno toccando cinque stati Europei e cinque regioni
italiane, e portandoci a comunicare in varie lingue.
Il baricentro di questa operazione sarà nel territorio delle Colline
Metallifere, in provincia di Grosseto, sconfinando leggermente nel basso
senese e nella Val di Cornia.
Si tratterà di eventi in cui di volta in volta emergeranno curiosità locali,
questioni scientifiche globali, arte, artigianato, innovazione tecnologica,
e altri spunti operativi.
*2. IN PRATICA*
I primi due appuntamenti saranno:
Sabato 21 maggio - Firenze - Terra Futura, nello spazio World, words, web
con due interventi.
ore 16.30-17.30: Oltre il buio: percorsi partecipativi per proteggere
l'ambiente e il cielo notturno. Avremo ospiti legati a vario titolo alla
BuioMetria Partecipativa e più in generale ad azioni di mitigazione
dell'inquinamento luminoso.
Ore 21-22: momento musicale live: con Peter Seeds, cantautore country-jazz,
e altri ospiti.
Lunedì 23 maggio alle ore 10.15 - Milano - al Dipartimento di Elettronica
del Politecnico
Andrea Giacomelli e Francesco Giubbilini terranno una lezione dal titolo:
Integrazione di tecnologie e metodi partecipati per la difesa del
territorio: alcune esperienze made in Italy.
Nella giornata del 21 maggio avremo modo di dare ulteriori dettagli sulle
iniziative che seguiranno, e di presentare i soggetti che ci stanno dando
una mano a realizzare il tutto.
*3. DI CHI/DI CHE COSA ABBIAMO BISOGNO*
Le iniziative che abbiamo realizzato a partire dal 2006 passato sono state
finanziate prevalentemente (almeno per l'80%) da privati.
Si è trattato in genere di iniziative piuttosto snelle, per quanto di un
certo effetto in termini di indotto sul territorio e sulle persone e una
discreta visilibità a livello nazionale (e su alcune delle storie anche
all'estero).
Il calendario 2011 è senz'altro più impegnativo in termini di risorse; ad
ogni modo le nostre esperienze e le nostre valutazioni preventive ci
confortano sulla possibilità di poter svolgere il nostro programma.
A partire dal 21 maggio avremo modo di spiegare meglio come pensiamo di
sostenere queste attività, e di suggerire come contribuire, se pensate che
le iniziative potranno dare anche a voi un ritorno.
*4. CONCLUSIONE*
Vi invitiamo a rimanere sintonizzati, e a venirci a trovare anzitutto a
Firenze o Milano se siete in zona.
Per ulteriori informazioni potete scrivere a i...@pibinko.org.
Risponderemo a tutti, ma fino al 21-5 potremmo non essere in grado di dare
riscontro immediato, dati i preparativi in corso per il lancio della
Campagna.
*5. TITOLI DI CODA*
Vi ringraziamo per l'attenzione e vi salutiamo...sull'aria di una vostra
versione a scelta di Summertime di Gershwin [1][2][3].
pibinko.org and the planners
[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIDOEsQL7lA
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzNEgcqWDG4
[3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxGh6VGxuw0
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Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta di ri-licenza dati alla Regione Veneto
Il 09 maggio 2011 15:04, G Zamboni gd.zamb...@tiscali.it ha scritto: Il 09/05/2011 13:58, Paolo Pozzan ha scritto: . Vedi messaggio precedente: http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.odt http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.pdf http://www.gaia-gis.it/rousseau-v5.xhtml Se non ho visto questi link scusatemi, ma cercando nel thread mi era parso che non ci fosse nulla. Che ti abbia scritto personalmente? Ops! Vero... la webmail mi ha fregato. Scusate! ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] filtrare dati da osm
è possibile ricavare dal database osm, i valori lat/long di una feature e inserirli in un foglio excel o csv? ad esempio la lista di tutti i benzinai in un determinato bbox con le relative coordinate. -- My website: http://ilgrillo.weebly.com/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] filtrare dati da osm
2011/5/9 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: è possibile ricavare dal database osm, i valori lat/long di una feature e inserirli in un foglio excel o csv? ad esempio la lista di tutti i benzinai in un determinato bbox con le relative coordinate. si. però non è consentito (uso del db solo ai fini di mappatura). Potresti usare la XAPI (quella di mapquest sembra di funzionare bene), prendere tutti gli oggetti che ti interessano e poi trasformare l'xml in un csv o simile per importarlo in Opencalc. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] filtrare dati da osm
Il 09 maggio 2011 19:25, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2011/5/9 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com: è possibile ricavare dal database osm, i valori lat/long di una feature e inserirli in un foglio excel o csv? ad esempio la lista di tutti i benzinai in un determinato bbox con le relative coordinate. si. però non è consentito (uso del db solo ai fini di mappatura). Potresti usare la XAPI (quella di mapquest sembra di funzionare bene), prendere tutti gli oggetti che ti interessano e poi trasformare l'xml in un csv o simile per importarlo in Opencalc. oppure caricare tutto in postgresql/postgis o spatialite e poi farti le query ed esportare direttamente in csv ciao, Martin -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] tile osmarenderer non aggiornato o errato
Il 05/09/2011 02:09 PM, Simone Saviolo scrisse: Il gruppo di tile, AFAIK, è sempre lo stesso: una tile di livello 12 e tutte le sottotile (quindi 4 a livello 13, sedici a livello 14 e così via). Per esperienza alcuni renderer sono molto lenti (PA94 era uno di quelli), ma ormai inizia ad essere un po' troppo. Potresti provare a fare una modifica minima in quell'area e vedere se questo sblocca in qualche modo la situazione. Dopo quello, mi sa che l'unica è contattare il signor Osmarender. Ho tolto i tag strani che avevo aggiunto per cercare di gestire il rendering di una corsia ciclabile ed ora tutto viene visualizzato correttamente. A parte la corsia ciclabile. Ma di questo scrivero' in altro thread. grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-co] #ayuda mejorando el mapa de #tulua
La troncal 40 (desfasada en la foto) se levantó con GPS, el tramo tiene entre 3 y 10 vectores. Lo mismo ocurre con la Cra. 40: la traza GPS la coloca unos 50 metros SE de como está ahora en el mapa; sin embargo el DWG cuadra con la fotografía... El 7 de mayo de 2011 21:56, Ricardo R harrie...@hotmail.com escribió: Una combinacion de la capa SHP de OSM y una foto aerea de Tulua con una camara normal desde avion http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4234521/tulua.jpeg ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-co] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] interesting UAV..
Para aguar bocas, objeto soñado para el mapeo en crisis y monitoreo ambiental. -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris chrisgnicho...@att.net Date: 2011/5/9 Subject: [CrisisMappers] interesting UAV.. To: CrisisMappers crisismapp...@googlegroups.com anyone got a donor to give a few of these to OCHA, UNHCR, WFP, etc..? http://www.gatewing.com/ Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-co] Mapeando con un Globo
Hola Hace un tiempo soñabamos con mapear con un globo, ahora veo que hasta hay manual para hacerlo http://grassrootsmapping.org/guide/ http://grassrootsmapping.org/guide/Quien se le mide? echemos a volar nuestro globo para tomar nuestras propias imágenes aéreas! salu2 -- Por favor, no me envíe documentos con extensiones .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, .mdb, mdbx OpenOffice es libre: se puede copiar, modificar y redistribuir libremente. Gratis y totalmente legal. http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Proposal for a West Midlands Transport Hackday
There are plans to hold a West Midlands Transport Hackday, possibly in Warwick, in September. Details are at: http://www.madwdata.org.uk/forum#/discussion/7/kicking-off-transport-hack-west-midlands it would be good to have some technical input from and about OSM. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-es] Presentación introducción OSM (José Luis Domingo López)
Para la mapping party de Baeza creamos una Wiki específica que sigue en red, http://mapeandobaeza.wikispaces.com/JOSM Ya entonces se nos planteó la necesidad de hacer unas guías de usuario con prisas... Creamos una manual elemental que le llamamos JOSM de la A a la Z con funcionalidades concretas, muy cortas y que pueden realizarse con un máximo de 7-8 golpes de ratón como esta, http://mapeandobaeza.wikispaces.com/file/view/1_Descargar+datos+de+OSM.pdf No son gran cosa, ni espectaculares, pero las fui haciendo según iba dando trompicones en cada escalón...como imagino le pasará a más de uno. Son cosas realmente fáciles pero yo no las sabía. -Mensaje original- De: talk-es-requ...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-es-requ...@openstreetmap.org] Enviado el: lunes, 09 de mayo de 2011 13:00 Para: talk-es@openstreetmap.org Asunto: Resumen de Talk-es, Vol 52, Envío 25 Envíe los mensajes para la lista Talk-es a talk-es@openstreetmap.org Para subscribirse o anular su subscripción a través de la WEB http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es O por correo electrónico, enviando un mensaje con el texto help en el asunto (subject) o en el cuerpo a: talk-es-requ...@openstreetmap.org Puede contactar con el responsable de la lista escribiendo a: talk-es-ow...@openstreetmap.org Si responde a algún contenido de este mensaje, por favor, edite la linea del asunto (subject) para que el texto sea mas especifico que: Re: Contents of Talk-es digest Además, por favor, incluya en la respuesta sólo aquellas partes del mensaje a las que está respondiendo. Asuntos del día: 1. Re: Presentación introducción OSM (José Luis Domingo López) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 18:56:13 +0200 From: José Luis Domingo López openstreetm...@24x7linux.com To: talk-es@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-es] Presentación introducción OSM Message-ID: 20110508165613.gc6...@smtp.24x7linux.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 El domingo día 08 de mayo de 2011, a las 12:48:48 +0200, Jimena escribió: Igual es muy cutre, pero siempre está la posibilidad de ponerlo como todos estos formato y dar la posibilidad de descargarlo, no? A parte de si al final se decide montar en cualquier otro formato, que me parece bien también, claro. En cualquier caso lo importante es ir rellenando y haciendo más vídeos, creo yo. Con todo lo poco que me gusta el flash para algunas cosas, a lo mejor esta presentación / guíaburros se presta a crear un vídeo interactivo en flash, o incluso sin ser interactivo. En lugar de un documento con vídeos, un vídeo con inserciones de texto, que por la naturaleza del vídeo, serían breves y concisas. Sé que esto se aparta aún más del purismo que todos incluso yo defendemos para según qué cosas. Pero sería más vendible a cualquier usuario un vídeo de Youtube que en 10 minutos o menos le ha permitido editar con éxito en OSM, que una sosa entrada en la wiki. Ahora bien, de herramientas de edición de vídeos y conversión a flash / youtube para una buena calidad / resolución / definición, ni idea. Un saludo. -- José Luis Domingo López Linux Registered User #189436 Linux Kubuntu 11.04 (Linux 2.6.38-8-generic-pae) próxima parte A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/attachments/20110508/18f54 078/attachment-0001.pgp -- ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es Fin de Resumen de Talk-es, Vol 52, Envío 25 *** ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-at] Server Probleme?
On 07.05.2011 10:31, Andreas Labres wrote: On 06.05.11 15:50, Soldier Boy wrote: Weiß jemand warum seit ~2-3 Tagen keine Tiles mehr gerendert werden? Zumindestens ins meiner Gegend (Hernstein;Bez. Baden) wurden keine Tiles mehr neu gerendert. http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openstreetmap.org/msg14748.html Something wrong: no... But the server is completely overloaded yes. Apps which scape masses of tiles for offline usage is becoming a big problem. ... Am Wochenende wurde wohl der Server aufgebohrt, um mit der erhöhten Last besser zurecht zu kommen: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-May/058217.html Es sollte sich also die Wartezeit auf neue Tiles wieder bessern. Norbert ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-ca] Winnipeg Transit data published PDDL
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Winnipeg Transit has published their gtfs data as PDDLv1.0. The zip file includes a LICENSE file with the PDDL dedication. http://gtfs.winnipegtransit.com/google_transit.zip Nice! Has anyone looked at importing this? I was thinking of using GTFS/OSM Sync (http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ ) to bring the data in for Winnipeg. Tyler ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Winnipeg Transit data published PDDL
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Tyler Gunn ty...@egunn.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Winnipeg Transit has published their gtfs data as PDDLv1.0. The zip file includes a LICENSE file with the PDDL dedication. http://gtfs.winnipegtransit.com/google_transit.zip Nice! Has anyone looked at importing this? I was thinking of using GTFS/OSM Sync (http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ ) to bring the data in for Winnipeg. Well, it should be somebody local, willing to proceed slowly and check the process at each step. Sound like anybody you know? ;-) ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Winnipeg Transit data published PDDL
On 2011-05-09, at 3:56 PM, Tyler Gunn wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Winnipeg Transit has published their gtfs data as PDDLv1.0. The zip file includes a LICENSE file with the PDDL dedication. http://gtfs.winnipegtransit.com/google_transit.zip Nice! Has anyone looked at importing this? I was thinking of using GTFS/OSM Sync (http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ ) to bring the data in for Winnipeg. Tyler Hi Tyler, I work for Winnipeg Transit and am the current maintainer of the GTFS export. While I can't speak to the quality of any of the GTFS importers, GO_Sync looks pretty comprehensive, and our GTFS feed should contain all of the data they mention. If you or somebody else does end up trying some of the importers and either have questions about or run into any issues with the data, I can try to resolve them. We also have an internal inventory of amenities like benches and shelters provided at each stop, but we don't export that yet via either our API or GTFS feed (though I'm open to suggestions on what formats to use for this data if it would be useful to export it). - Doug ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-cz] ceniaortofotomapa
Chtěl jsem se zeptat, zda Vám navazují na sebe dlaždice v ceniaortofotomapě ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] ceniaortofotomapa
U mě stejný problém On May 9, 2011 6:42pm, Zdeněk Pražák zpra...@seznam.cz wrote: Chtěl jsem se zeptat, zda Vám navazují na sebe dlaždice v ceniaortofotomapě ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] POIs contributeurs OSM
Bonjour, Merci de vos réponses. 2011/5/6 Nicolas Dumoulin nicolas_openstreetmap@dumoulin63.net: Après tout dépend quel est le but de ton analyse. Est-ce bien la localisation de l'utilisateur qui est le plus pertinent ? (pas toujours à jour) Je comprends bien que la divulgation de ces informations puisse être perçue comme atteinte à la vie privée. Alors, plutôt que la localisation précise des géométries contributeurs, je pourrais me rabattre sur l'information agrégée sur les mailles de OSMQA (polygones carrés de ~1km de côté). L'analyse n'en serait pas moins mauvaise. Mais bon, là encore je crois que ce n'est pas possible, à moins peut être de s'adresser directement à la Fondation. Je crois que je vais juste laisser tomber l'idée. F. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rue sur 2 communes _ cas d'école?
Yannick VOYEAUD a écrit , Le 09/05/2011 00:34: Je dirais un des rares cas d'école où le code postal a son importance ET est différent de la couverture INSEE des communes Une solution idéale serait 1) 1 commune = 1 code INSEE ET 1 code postal Hum, hum : - Autour de Superbagnères, 32 communes de montagne partagent le code postal 31110. - Toulouse est une commune à 6 codes postaux 31000, 31100, 31200, 31300, 31400, 31500. - Escalquens 31750, et La Salvetat 31880 font tâche en ayant un et un seul code postal rien que pour elles ; je pense qu'il n'y en a pas d'autre sur la haute-garonne (31) - Et que dire de Andorre : 31999 ? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rue sur 2 communes _ cas d'école?
Un grand merci à tous, j'y vois plus clair après avoir lu vos réflexions ; je vais faire deux relations et mettre le nom de la commune dans chaque relation. Hélène User:HelenePETIT ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rue sur 2 communes _ cas d'école?
Vincent de Chateau-Thierry a écrit , Le 07/05/2011 13:43: ...Je penche pour tagguer la relation, ça évite une certaine... redondance :-) :) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Arrêts de car Transisère
Le 05/05/2011 19:25, allegre.guilla...@free.fr a écrit : Salut, Suite à une rencontre ayant eu lieu il y a un an, je viens d'obtenir l'accord de Transisère (les lignes de car gérées par le Conseil Général de l'Isère) pour importer la totalité de leurs arrêts de cars. Ci-joint un échantillon des données fournies (tableur). Je leur ai demandé d'ajouter en plus une colonne avec leur identifiant interne, de façon à pouvoir éventuellement synchroniser ces données plus tard. Attention : Sur l'agglomération grenobloise et sans doute d'autres coins de l'Isère, ces arrêts sont communs avec d'autres lignes (Semitag sur Grenoble), et les arrêts Semitag existent déjà. Cela implique donc un travail non négligeable de prétraitement avec une petite heuristique (distance et nom ?) pour éviter les doublons. Est-ce que quelqu'un a envie de prendre en charge cet import ? Question subsidiaire : l'accord de Michel Girard (ci-dessous), je comptais le mettre sur le wiki. Une page préférentielle ? As-tu d'autres informations sur cette décision ? Par qui a-t-elle été validée ? Est-ce qu'une délibération est passée pour ça ? (Les délibérations sont publiques et publiées.) Ces données ont-elle été publiées ou vous ont-elles été donnée de la main à la main ? Je te pose ces questions car je veux comprendre comment fonctionne et raisonne l'acteur public concerné et voir si ça a valeur d'exemple et si c'est reproductible. Ce qui est intéressant c'est que ces données ainsi ouvertes le sont, sous les deux licences concernées, pour tous autres usages et pas seulement pour OSM car la loi de 1978 interdit la discrimination des réutilisateurs -- mais peut-être que le CG 38 ne le sait pas. Par ailleurs, c'est un exemple de plus qui semble confirmer qu'il n'est pas nécessaire de passer une délibération pour ouvrir des données car cela peut être considéré comme une mesure technique. Charles Nepote. Le jeu. 05 mai 2011 à 17:40 +0200, Girard Michel a ecrit : Je vous certifie au nom du Conseil général de l'Isère, que nous autorisons la Communauté OpenStreetMap (OSM) à intégrer à sa base de données géographiques sous les deux licences libres utilisées : - la licence Creative Commons CC-BY-SA - la licence Open Database License (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_License) les données suivantes, dont nous sommes propriétaires : arrêts de car du réseau Transisère, composés des coordonnées géographiques et des noms des arrêts. J'ai bien pris note que nos données seront sourcées Conseil général de l'Isère - 2011. [cid:image001.jpg@01CC0B4B.9657A200] Pour tous vos déplacements, ayez le déclic ! www.itinisere.frhttp://www.itinisere.fr/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rue sur 2 communes _ cas d'école?
Le 09/05/2011 09:47, hpmt a écrit : Bonjour, Hum, hum : - Autour de Superbagnères, 32 communes de montagne partagent le code postal 31110. C'est le cas général - Toulouse est une commune à 6 codes postaux 31000, 31100, 31200, 31300, 31400, 31500. C'est le cas général des grandes villes - Escalquens 31750, et La Salvetat 31880 font tâche en ayant un et un seul code postal rien que pour elles ; je pense qu'il n'y en a pas d'autre sur la haute-garonne (31) Voir plus bas ce sont les impératifs de la poste qui génèrent l'attribution des cp - Et que dire de Andorre : 31999 ? Andorre a un statut à part. La France n'est que partiellement souveraine, tout comme l'Espagne, sur cette principauté. Tu n'as pas compris ou interprété ce que j'ai voulu dire! Toutes les grandes villes ont plusieurs codes postaux. Il est très rare qu'une commune soit desservie par un autre code postal que celui de majorité de son territoire (qui implique un lieu de départ du courrier en distribution différent de celui habituel pour la dite commune) En l'espèce nous avons un morceau du coté d'une rue qui est dans une commune et qui est distribué par les facteurs d'une autre. Les communes ayant un code postal à leur seul usage ont une explication pratique pour les services de la poste liés à la géographie d'accès, à la population, à différents autres paramètres. C'est bien pour cela que je considère le cp comme une surface supra-administrative mouvante au gré de l'organisation de la poste. C'est bien pour cela que je suggère que ce soit l'adresse qui soit affublée du code postal. Si pas de soucis la commune se voit affublée du code postal Si des particularités ce sont les particularités qui doivent avoir le cp 'anormal'. On ne devrait pas chercher à faire coller impérativement une surface non légale à des exceptions qui bien que pouvant être fréquentes sur l'ensemble de la France n'en restent pas moins des cas isolés non représentatifs de la généralité. Il ne faut pas faire coller un modèle général à une exception ni faire d'un modèle exceptionnel un cas général. Dans les deux cas on ne s'y retrouvera pas. Il convient plutôt de décrire les exceptions afin de prévenir l'utilisateur. Amitiés -- Yannick VOYEAUD Nul n'a droit au superflu tant que chacun n'a pas son nécessaire (Camille JOUFFRAY 1841-1924, maire de Vienne) http://www.voyeaud.org Créateur CimGenWeb: http://www.francegenweb.org/cimgenweb/ Journées du Logiciel Libre: http://jdll.org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Arrêts de car Transisère
Je réponds avec le peu d'information que j'ai. Le lun. 09 mai 2011 à 13:24 +0200, Charles Nepote a ecrit : Question subsidiaire : l'accord de Michel Girard (ci-dessous), je comptais le mettre sur le wiki. Une page préférentielle ? As-tu d'autres informations sur cette décision ? Par qui a-t-elle été validée ? Est-ce qu'une délibération est passée pour ça ? (Les délibérations sont publiques et publiées.) Je ne suis sûr de rien, mais je ne pense pas qu'il y ait eu une délibération, ni une décision d'élu. Effectivement, ça _semble_ uniquement une décision technique. Michel Girard est chef de projet Transisère à la Direction des Transports du CG 38. Cf organigramme ici : http://www.isere.fr/uploads/Document/6d/WEB_CHEMIN_477_128022.pdf Ces données ont-elle été publiées ou vous ont-elles été donnée de la main à la main ? De la main à la main. Par ailleurs, c'est un exemple de plus qui semble confirmer qu'il n'est pas nécessaire de passer une délibération pour ouvrir des données car cela peut être considéré comme une mesure technique. J'imagine que différents services vont avoir des appréciations différentes de ce qui peut passer sans délibération, en fonction aussi de l'importance des données publiées. -- ° /\Guillaume AllègreMembre de l'April /~~\/\ allegre.guilla...@free.fr Promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre / /~~\tél. 04.76.63.26.99 http://www.april.org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagguer le radar civil de Kastell Ruffel ?
man_made=radar et tower:type=radar existent tous les 2, même s'il y a peu d’occurrences: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/tags/man_made=radar#wiki http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/tags/tower%3Atype=radar#wiki Penses à référencer ta photo par un tag image, c'est pratique :) Sinon, c'est bien un radar de l'aviation civile, même si l'article Wikipédia fait doucement rigoler avec sa mention 2 seulement en France. Plus d'infos sur celui-ci, qui est assez récent: http://www.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/IMG/pdf/av_091202_dsna_let026.pdf http://www.betocib.net/images/fiches/Weizmamm-Saint-Goazec.pdf http://www.peri.fr/projets.cfm/fuseaction/showreference/reference_ID/1075/referencecategory_ID/19.cfm Par contre la hauteur renseignée à 25 m me semble incertaine, sur les sites ils parlent d'une base en béton de 28.5 m pour une hauteur totale de 40m. Vincent Le 8 mai 2011 21:58, Gregoire Surrel ewala...@gmail.com a écrit : Salut Je pense que c'est bien un radar pour avions, comme en témoigne Wikipédia : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roudouallec#Lieux_et_monuments Ensuite, pour taguer ça... manmade=radar ? J'ai gagné (quoi) ? Bonne soirée ! 2011/5/8 Club Informatique Inter Communes / C2IC cont...@c2ic.net Bonsoir, De retour d'une virée OSM dans les terras incognita de l'Ouest du Centre Bretagne je suis tombé sur un radar civil ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=48.1451mlon=-3.7264zoom=14layers=M). J'ai taggué cet ovni en man_made tower mais je ne suis pas convaincu ... Une idée ? Pour ceux qui veulent voir la photo ( http://lionel.rauch.free.fr/blog/index.php?post/Quel-est-donc-cette-chose ) Merci d'avance ! Lionel / 1piedsurTerre ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Connaitre l'auteur d'une modification
Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment savoir l'auteur d'une modification. Ça fait presqu'un an que je n'avais pas contribué à ajouter des données. Auparavant, il était possible de connaitre l'auteur d'une modification en utilisant Potlach, en sléectionnant l'objet et en appuyant sur h. Maintenant ça ne fonctionne plus (je pense car la version de Potlach a changé). Mon problème concerne cette zone http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.99705lon=2.73228zoom=17layers=M À mon avis ça sort tout droit du cadastre ce qui est très bien. Le problème c'est que j'ai été faire un tour par là ce weekend et que tous les chemins indiqué road n'existe pas sur le terrain. En tout cas je n'ai rien vu de comparable. J'aurai donc voulu contacter le créateur de ces roads pour essayer de comprendre avant d'ajouter par dessus mes propres données. Merci d'avance pour votre aide. Olivier ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Connaitre l'auteur d'une modification
Bonjour, Utilisez le layer switcher (en haut à droite) de la carte principale, activez le calque Données, et parcourez l'historique des modifications après avoir cliquez sur l'element souhaité. Cordialement Le 9 mai 2011 15:02, Olivier Delaune olivier.dela...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Bonjour, je voudrais savoir comment savoir l'auteur d'une modification. Ça fait presqu'un an que je n'avais pas contribué à ajouter des données. Auparavant, il était possible de connaitre l'auteur d'une modification en utilisant Potlach, en sléectionnant l'objet et en appuyant sur h. Maintenant ça ne fonctionne plus (je pense car la version de Potlach a changé). Mon problème concerne cette zone http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.99705lon=2.73228zoom=17layers=M À mon avis ça sort tout droit du cadastre ce qui est très bien. Le problème c'est que j'ai été faire un tour par là ce weekend et que tous les chemins indiqué road n'existe pas sur le terrain. En tout cas je n'ai rien vu de comparable. J'aurai donc voulu contacter le créateur de ces roads pour essayer de comprendre avant d'ajouter par dessus mes propres données. Merci d'avance pour votre aide. Olivier ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rue sur 2 communes _ cas d'école?
Encore un cas particulier dans ma commune, 2 codes postaux... 94100 Saint-Maur des Fossés et 94210 La Varenne St Hilaire, mais une seule commune (St Maur, INSEE 94068). Je ne connais d'ailleurs pas la limite géographique exacte du bureau distributeur 94210. -- Christian ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: Lorraine Veloroutes Voies Vertes
Bonjour, Voici un article annonçant la nouvelle édition du Guide des Voies Vertes et Véloroutes de France édité par l'AF3V. Si ça tente quelqu'un d'y laisser un commentaire pour y glisser ce que l'on pourrait faire avec OSM? http://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/news/voies-vertes-veloroutes-france-12519.php4 Romain Le 4 mai 2011 11:33, Olivier s olivie...@live.fr a écrit : Je pense également que le site AF3V a intérêt à utiliser les données qui sont issues de la base de donnée OpenStreetMap et d'utiliser tous les outils que l'on peut avoir autour du projet OpenStreetMap pour entrer des données géographiques, pour faire des rendus, pour afficher des cartes sur Internet. J'ai fait également un exemple à partir de mon site pour montrer ce qu'il est possible d'afficher de la piste cyclable du bord du lac d'Annecy où il n'y a également pas de carte sur le site AF3V. http://gemedeplace.free.fr/Annecy.html Les données sont toutes issues d'OpenStreetMap et la carte superposable Mobilité est faite avec Maperitive. Je pense que l'AF3V peut gagner beaucoup en affichant des cartes issues des données d'OpenStreetMap et que OpenStreetMap peut gagner beaucoup de contributeurs connaisseurs des parcours en étant présente sur un site intéressant pour les voyageurs à vélo. Je pense donc qu'il faut insister auprès de l'AF3V et leur montrer qu'on cherche plutôt à améliorer leurs cartes. A+ Olivier S -- Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 18:37:24 +0200 From: ger...@buscyclistes.org To: talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: Lorraine Veloroutes Voies Vertes Je pense que l'AF3V aurait tout à gagner à utiliser dès aujourd'hui les voies déjà renseignées dans OSM, car nombre de voies vertes n'ont aucune carte en ligne sur le site AF3V. S'ils utilisaient un lien tel que http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.305lon=-0.074zoom=9layers=Mrelation=31297pour montrer par où passe la véloroute Loire à Vélo (par exemple), ça serait tout de même plus attirant pour l'internaute qu'un message Aucune carte disponible pour l'instant! ! En effet, inciter plus de gens à découvrir des voies vertes, aboutit forcément à ce que plus de citoyens-électeurs ne soient sensibles au développement d'autres voies vertes (toujours la question de leur financement par les élus...). J'ai déjà eu le problème d'arriver à attraper une verte en l'absence d'une carte précise me disant où elle passe, c'est pas évident. Une carte OSM rend bien service pour cela. Après, que l'AF3V contribue aussi à enrichier OSM, pourquoi pas? Mais ont ils des données géo référencées suffisament précises pour cela? Et libres? S'ils ont (par exemple), des cartes IGN avec un itinéraire de voie verte repassé manuellement au feutre fluo, c'est probablement pas transposable dans OSM... ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagguer le radar civil de Kastell Ruffel ?
Salut man_made=radar et tower:type=radar existent tous les 2, même s'il y a peu d?occurrences: Ok, modifié Penses à référencer ta photo par un tag image, c'est pratique :) Euh ??? Comment je fais ça ? Sinon, c'est bien un radar de l'aviation civile, même si l'article Wikipédia fait doucement rigoler avec sa mention 2 seulement en France. Oui ! :o) Par contre la hauteur renseignée à 25 m me semble incertaine, sur les sites ils parlent d'une base en béton de 28.5 m pour une hauteur totale de 40m. J'ai mis ça à vu de nez car 40m cela me paraît beaucoup et qu'une fois au pied de l'ovni on voit bien 4 étages plus la partie grillagée en haut et la grosse boule blanche ... Merci encore à tous ! Lionel p.s : y'a que ceux qui auront laissé un commentaire sur mon blog qui auront le droit à un panoramique imprimé ! :o) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: Lorraine Veloroutes Voies Vertes
Bonsoir, En attendant, j'ai lu dans le compte rendu de la dernière AG annuelles de l'AF3V (en mars) que son président a animé un atelier Comment tracer une carte Google maps de VVV pour le site AF3V . Et il propose même aux membres AF3V qui le désireraient, de leur envoyer une fiche donnant la méthode ... Le 9 mai 2011 16:20, Romain MEHUT romain.me...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Voici un article annonçant la nouvelle édition du Guide des Voies Vertes et Véloroutes de France édité par l'AF3V. Si ça tente quelqu'un d'y laisser un commentaire pour y glisser ce que l'on pourrait faire avec OSM? http://www.actu-environnement.com/ae/news/voies-vertes-veloroutes-france-12519.php4 Romain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rue sur 2 communes _ cas d'école?
Merci Philippe. ayant utilisé la solution name:left et name:right, je constate qu'on n'a plus aucun nom de rue (sur le rendu Mapnik). Comment concilier l'orthodoxie de l'encodage avec ces tags :left et :right, et la nécessité d'afficher les deux noms de rue ? Linusable Chemin 99403969Détails * highway: residential * name:left: Rue Richebé * name:right: Avenue Demerbe Le 08/05/11 23:28, Philippe Pary a écrit : Le dimanche 08 mai 2011 à 23:22 +0200, Linusable a écrit : La situation de rues partagées suivant le côté entre deux communes n'est pas rare dans ma région. J'ai galéré pour la rue Richebé (côté Quaregnon) et l'avenue Demerbe (côté Jemappes/Mons) ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.44865lon=3.87423zoom=16layers=M C'est ultra commun comme situation. En pratique, j'ai un peu bricolé en juxtaposant et en décalant 2 chemins de manière à avoir un rendu raisonnable à l'affichage. A y réfléchir après lecture des messages sur la liste, je n'ai pas l'impression que ma solution soit bien propre ! Il faut utiliser name:left et name:right Philippe ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rue sur 2 communes _ cas d'école?
Tu peux toujours ajouter name=Rue Richebé;Avenue Demerbe. C'est un peu dommage que les données sont dupliquées de cette façon. L'autre option c'est de convaincre les développeurs des 'style sheet' de mapnik de joindre les name:left;name:right. Polyglot 2011/5/9 Linusable linusableli...@yahoo.fr Merci Philippe. ayant utilisé la solution name:left et name:right, je constate qu'on n'a plus aucun nom de rue (sur le rendu Mapnik). Comment concilier l'orthodoxie de l'encodage avec ces tags :left et :right, et la nécessité d'afficher les deux noms de rue ? Linusable Chemin 99403969Détails * highway: residential * name:left: Rue Richebé * name:right: Avenue Demerbe Le 08/05/11 23:28, Philippe Pary a écrit : Le dimanche 08 mai 2011 à 23:22 +0200, Linusable a écrit : La situation de rues partagées suivant le côté entre deux communes n'est pas rare dans ma région. J'ai galéré pour la rue Richebé (côté Quaregnon) et l'avenue Demerbe (côté Jemappes/Mons) ici : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.44865lon=3.87423zoom=16layers=M C'est ultra commun comme situation. En pratique, j'ai un peu bricolé en juxtaposant et en décalant 2 chemins de manière à avoir un rendu raisonnable à l'affichage. A y réfléchir après lecture des messages sur la liste, je n'ai pas l'impression que ma solution soit bien propre ! Il faut utiliser name:left et name:right Philippe ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-ja] 日本のマッパー数統計
三浦です。 突然ですが、日本のマッパー数の統計を取りたいです。 以前、藤澤さんがカウントしていたと思いますが、いまでも統計やっていますか？ 震災前後で増えたり、日本に貢献した世界のメンバー数が知りたいなーとおもっ ています。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 日本のマッパー数統計
藤澤です。 アクティブな数はちょっと時間がかかりますが、アカウント数であれば、 わりとすぐにできますので、この後データ更新しておきます。 (2011年05月09日 15:54), Hiroshi Miura wrote: 三浦です。 突然ですが、日本のマッパー数の統計を取りたいです。 以前、藤澤さんがカウントしていたと思いますが、いまでも統計やっていますか？ 震災前後で増えたり、日本に貢献した世界のメンバー数が知りたいなーとおもっ ています。 -- @ 藤澤 公也 / Kimiya FUJISAWA @// @@ mailto:fujis...@techstrom.org @-O-O-@ work:fujis...@media.teu.ac.jp \ ^ / skype ID：techstrom.org http://www.techstrom.org/ ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 日本のマッパー数統計
Tomです。 こちらによると、 http://odbl.de/japan.html Contributors 1271人 になってますね。 2011年5月9日16:08 Kimiya FUJISAWA fujis...@techstrom.org: 藤澤です。 アクティブな数はちょっと時間がかかりますが、アカウント数であれば、 わりとすぐにできますので、この後データ更新しておきます。 (2011年05月09日 15:54), Hiroshi Miura wrote: 三浦です。 突然ですが、日本のマッパー数の統計を取りたいです。 以前、藤澤さんがカウントしていたと思いますが、いまでも統計やっていますか？ 震災前後で増えたり、日本に貢献した世界のメンバー数が知りたいなーとおもっ ています。 -- @ 藤澤 公也 / Kimiya FUJISAWA @// @@ mailto:fujis...@techstrom.org @-O-O-@ work:fujis...@media.teu.ac.jp \ ^ / skype ID：techstrom.org http://www.techstrom.org/ ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] 日本のマッパー数統計
東です。 ちなみに総アカウント数は40万直前です。 http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html 11/05/09 Tomomichi Hayakawa tom.hayak...@gmail.com: Tomです。 こちらによると、 http://odbl.de/japan.html Contributors 1271人 になってますね。 2011年5月9日16:08 Kimiya FUJISAWA fujis...@techstrom.org: 藤澤です。 アクティブな数はちょっと時間がかかりますが、アカウント数であれば、 わりとすぐにできますので、この後データ更新しておきます。 (2011年05月09日 15:54), Hiroshi Miura wrote: 三浦です。 突然ですが、日本のマッパー数の統計を取りたいです。 以前、藤澤さんがカウントしていたと思いますが、いまでも統計やっていますか？ 震災前後で増えたり、日本に貢献した世界のメンバー数が知りたいなーとおもっ ています。 -- @ 藤澤 公也 / Kimiya FUJISAWA @// @@ mailto:fujis...@techstrom.org @-O-O-@ work:fujis...@media.teu.ac.jp \ ^ / skype ID：techstrom.org http://www.techstrom.org/ ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[Talk-GB] OS grid positions
I have been encouraging a friend to use OSM. He has just mailed in puzzlement after trying to find an OS grid reference (presumably looking at mapnik). I saw http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/2056/using-the-ordnance-survey-national-grid-with-openstreetmap but just converting a single grid reference to a good approximation to (lat,long) isn't *that* difficult, surely? My Garmin does it a less than a ms or so with very low computing power. Or am I being naive? ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
On 09/05/11 12:00, TimSC wrote: The OS national grid has been around for a long time and has been adjusted and tweaked as measurement accuracy has improved. The official transform from the national grid (OSGB36) to GPS lat lon (WGS84) is known as OSTN02. OSTN02 uses a large look up table to account for the strange shape of OSGB36. There are of course various mathematical approximations of OSTN02 which are easier to use. I am not sure which transformation Garmin uses but it seems to be accurate enough. When was the OSTN02 table published? Only my understanding has always been that OS claim some sort of intellectual property rights over the data in that table and hence people have generally used algorithmic approximations to avoid licensing issues. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
I have PHP code to do this, it was based on the JEEPS C library. It's available http://www.free-map.org.uk/svn/freemap/lib/latlong.php Also available is Jcoord, JScoord and PHPcoord from Jonathan Stott (www.jstott.me.uk/jcoord). Note this is GPL, not LGPL, and therefore can only be used in GPL compatible software though he does dual-licence under a commercial licence. Nick -TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk Date: 09/05/2011 12:02PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions ael, The OS national grid has been around for a long time and has been adjusted and tweaked as measurement accuracy has improved. The official transform from the national grid (OSGB36) to GPS lat lon (WGS84) is known as OSTN02. OSTN02 uses a large look up table to account for the strange shape of OSGB36. There are of course various mathematical approximations of OSTN02 which are easier to use. I am not sure which transformation Garmin uses but it seems to be accurate enough. Various software libraries exist to do the conversion. I have played with the perl library Geo::Coordinates::OSTN02 and ported it to python, if you are interested. Regards, TimSC On 09/05/11 11:44, ael wrote: I have been encouraging a friend to use OSM. He has just mailed in puzzlement after trying to find an OS grid reference (presumably looking at mapnik). I saw http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/2056/using-the-ordnance-survey-national-grid-with-openstreetmap but just converting a single grid reference to a good approximation to (lat,long) isn't *that* difficult, surely? My Garmin does it a less than a ms or so with very low computing power. Or am I being naive? ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
On Mon, 9 May 2011, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I have PHP code to do this, it was based on the JEEPS C library. It's available http://www.free-map.org.uk/svn/freemap/lib/latlong.php I've code here: http://derickrethans.nl/files/dump/convert.php.txt do what you want with it :-) This is an approximation however. cheers, Derick -- http://derickrethans.nl | http://xdebug.org Like Xdebug? Consider a donation: http://xdebug.org/donate.php twitter: @derickr and @xdebug ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
Actually just realised this is a dodgy svn version with bugs, it's not my current production version. It won't work because some of the associative array fields are called 'long' not 'lon'. I'll try and update this later. Nick -Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk Date: 09/05/2011 12:26PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions I have PHP code to do this, it was based on the JEEPS C library. It's available http://www.free-map.org.uk/svn/freemap/lib/latlong.php Also available is Jcoord, JScoord and PHPcoord from Jonathan Stott (www.jstott.me.uk/jcoord). Note this is GPL, not LGPL, and therefore can only be used in GPL compatible software though he does dual-licence under a commercial licence. Nick -TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: - To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org From: TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk Date: 09/05/2011 12:02PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions ael, The OS national grid has been around for a long time and has been adjusted and tweaked as measurement accuracy has improved. The official transform from the national grid (OSGB36) to GPS lat lon (WGS84) is known as OSTN02. OSTN02 uses a large look up table to account for the strange shape of OSGB36. There are of course various mathematical approximations of OSTN02 which are easier to use. I am not sure which transformation Garmin uses but it seems to be accurate enough. Various software libraries exist to do the conversion. I have played with the perl library Geo::Coordinates::OSTN02 and ported it to python, if you are interested. Regards, TimSC On 09/05/11 11:44, ael wrote: I have been encouraging a friend to use OSM. He has just mailed in puzzlement after trying to find an OS grid reference (presumably looking at mapnik). I saw http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/2056/using-the-ordnance-survey-national-grid-with-openstreetmap but just converting a single grid reference to a good approximation to (lat,long) isn't *that* difficult, surely? My Garmin does it a less than a ms or so with very low computing power. Or am I being naive? ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb =___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
Tom Hughes wrote: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/2056/using-the-ordnance-survey-national-grid-with-openstreetmap Making search work is a whole different issue and I would certainly consider reasonable patches to do that - there are complicated issues of OS intellectual property (which I'm not sure Richard's answer on that thread accurately addresses) which would need to be considered depending on what algorithm was used. Good grief. Are people seriously suggesting that the Ordnance Survey owns the grid reference system to the extent that others cannot convert between grid refs and other formats, or draw a grid over their own maps? That sounds like legal paranoia to me (and normally, I think I'm more cautious than most about such issues). Regards, Phil. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
On 09/05/11 13:17, Phil Endecott wrote: Good grief. Are people seriously suggesting that the Ordnance Survey owns the grid reference system to the extent that others cannot convert between grid refs and other formats, or draw a grid over their own maps? That sounds like legal paranoia to me (and normally, I think I'm more cautious than most about such issues). See my other posting - the issue is that the best version of the mapping to OSGB relies on a large data table. It is not just an algorithmic conversion. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
On Mon, 9 May 2011, Tom Hughes wrote: On 09/05/11 13:17, Phil Endecott wrote: Good grief. Are people seriously suggesting that the Ordnance Survey owns the grid reference system to the extent that others cannot convert between grid refs and other formats, or draw a grid over their own maps? That sounds like legal paranoia to me (and normally, I think I'm more cautious than most about such issues). See my other posting - the issue is that the best version of the mapping to OSGB relies on a large data table. It is not just an algorithmic conversion. You can apparently use this data for free is long as there are copyright notices. Not something to use for OSM of course, but it's here: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/gps/osnetfreeservices/furtherinfo/questdeveloper.html cheers, Derick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] OS grid positions
When I last looked some time ago, the OS recommended using Grid In-quest http://www.qgsl.com/?product=gridinquest Which they say can be downloaded free, and with no restrictions on use. They also claimed that the calculations should be accurate to ~ 10cm. It can convert OSGB36 - ETRS89 - which is essentially WGS84 adjusted to remove movements of the European Tectonic Plate - which should be less than 50cm difference. Most OSBG - WGS84 web algorithms I've seen seem to suggest that the calculation should be good to around 3-7m ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 30-04-2011
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media. http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/30-04-2011 There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the red rectangles), I don't see any at the moment, so you may want to update if you had issues with the last set. If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from the factory. I had to reformat it to let me create a 2GB file. I got a report that the 2GB version doesn't fit on a 2GB card. I reduced the amount of space that each version uses by 5%. Hopefully that will let things fit better and allow for more space for stuff like track logs. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
