Re: [OSM-talk-be] Missing Maxspeed in Brussels
Yeah i know this, but i wanted to specially highlight big highways without maxspeed to see what's missing ... but yes ito can surely help :) Regards, eMerzh ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Open Data in Wallonie - Request of Minister Ph. Henry - OSM Meeting in Namur in September ?
Hi ! If you wish not to attend the meeting with Philippe Henry and his representatives, maybe you would be interested giving your opinion on his proposals at an OSM Meeting ? Personnaly, I will be more confident if I could tell things that have been discussed amongst contributors before. I am going to close the pool to decide the meeting next monday : http://framadate.org/wg4dptwpfgerzs1v . You'll see: Namur is a pretty city and, like in Brussels, we have electricity and wifi ! Julien Fastré Le 30/07/12 17:07, Chris Browet a écrit : Yep, same as Sander, I'm from Brussel, and I'm not sure there should be more people than the 3 people initially involved attending the meeting. Note for the record that the PICC is viewable in Merkaartor, in Lambert 72. - Chris - On 30 July 2012 15:29, Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com mailto:sander...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested in more data, but I'm not from Wallonia, and I agree with point 2, there shouldn't be too many people there. So that means I certainly shouldn't be there. Cheers, Sander 2012/7/30 eMerzh merz...@gmail.com mailto:merz...@gmail.com Hi... back from vacations :D I've added my disponibilities in the framadate :) No one else interrested ? maybe the vacations does not help here :/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to celebrate Team GB successes in the current Olympics: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ 1. I think a certain Attribution clause is missing[1] 2. I think they are merely pointing to the OSM main tileserver (tile.openstreetmap.org) - this doesn't seem in keeping with the OSM Tile Usage Policy[2] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy First reaction: Make sure everything near those markers is mapped well! (check for license bot damage?) I also sent them a friendly tweet. What are the chances that anyone will see it? :) For what it's worth, there *is* attribution in the code that sets up OpenLayers: osm_mapnik:{baselayer:true,attribution:\u0026copy;\u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/\u0022\u003ECCBYSA\u003C\/a\u003E 2010\n \u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/www.openstreetmap.org\/\u0022\u003EOpenStreetMap.org\u003C\/a\u003E contributors, [...] Something just seems to be preventing it from displaying. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage
On 03/08/12 07:45, Toby Murray wrote: For what it's worth, there *is* attribution in the code that sets up OpenLayers: osm_mapnik:{baselayer:true,attribution:\u0026copy;\u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/\u0022\u003ECCBYSA\u003C\/a\u003E 2010\n \u003Ca href=\u0022http:\/\/www.openstreetmap.org\/\u0022\u003EOpenStreetMap.org\u003C\/a\u003E contributors, [...] Something just seems to be preventing it from displaying. They probably haven't added the attribution control to the map. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine
Am 03.08.2012 02:19, schrieb Eugene Sandulenko: Moreover, having unpredictable mix in 'name' will degrade quality of any navigational maps or geocoding. While I cannot say anything regarding your other points, and, to be clear, I don't oppose you in general, I would like to disagree with this argument: Having an unpredictable mix in name will not degrade quality of anything, as long as you provide the languaged tags, too. We have the discussion about that currently in another thread - and I think, this edit war is an additional argument on not using lang=* as a separate tag but to use redundant name tags: To fix navigational maps and geocoding, use all useful localized variants: independent of what's in name, use name:ru, name:crimea (or whatever language code crimean has, I'm not sure, sorry), name:en. Navigational maps and geocoding software that does not use these tags, too, is broken - and it should be possible to fix it. regards Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Final results lost mappers task force
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: From an original 1014 contributors in the first group a total of 495 agreed, resulting in a nearly 50% success rate. Of the 2nd group of 959, 362 agreed, giving a success rate of 38%. There was naturally some acceptances in both groups that weren't directly attributable to our efforts, but the residual acceptance rate before we started was very near zero and continued to be so after April the 1st up to a final effort just before the bot ran. Out of curiosity, do you have any figures for what percentage of contacted mappers chose to decline? (Obviously some proportion of those that took no action probably did so intentionally, knowing the consequences - but we won't know which). Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage
Hello Rob, Fair point for 1. For 2, though, I don't think there's a blanket ban on using the tileserver from a web front end unless it gets very heavily used - I think apps are more of a problem. Nick -Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: - To: talk@openstreetmap.org From: Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com Date: 03/08/2012 02:00AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to celebrate Team GB successes in the current Olympics: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ 1. I think a certain Attribution clause is missing[1] 2. I think they are merely pointing to the OSM main tileserver (tile.openstreetmap.org) - this doesn't seem in keeping with the OSM Tile Usage Policy[2] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy Be Seeing You - Rob. If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Final results lost mappers task force
Non rigorous answer: less than a dozen I believe. You naturally have to differentiate between genuine non-responders which didn't respond because they didn't know (spam filter, invalid e-mail address, e-mail account no longer in use and so on) and decliners that didn't accept the CTs for tactical or other reasons. As far as possible we avoided wasting time going after the later group and they are not included in my numbers (a couple slipped through the cracks but in general they didn't change their position). Simon Am 03.08.2012 10:26, schrieb Steve Bennett: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: From an original 1014 contributors in the first group a total of 495 agreed, resulting in a nearly 50% success rate. Of the 2nd group of 959, 362 agreed, giving a success rate of 38%. There was naturally some acceptances in both groups that weren't directly attributable to our efforts, but the residual acceptance rate before we started was very near zero and continued to be so after April the 1st up to a final effort just before the bot ran. Out of curiosity, do you have any figures for what percentage of contacted mappers chose to decline? (Obviously some proportion of those that took no action probably did so intentionally, knowing the consequences - but we won't know which). Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenBuildingModels repository
Hi all, a first prototype of the OpenBuildingModels platform is finally online. OpenBuildingModels aims to be a free-to-use online repository for architectural 3D building models. These models can be referenced in OpenStreetMap and are also displayed in the OSM-3D globe. However, the models can just as well be freely used for any other purpose (ODbL license). Try it out yourself at http://openbuildingmodels.uni-hd.de! More information can be found in the Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenBuildingModels Please note that the platform is still in Beta stage. Any kind of feedback is welcome! Best regards, Matthias Uden (Chair of GIScience, University of Heidelberg, Germany) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenBuildingModels repository
Hi all, a first prototype of the OpenBuildingModels platform is finally online. OpenBuildingModels aims to be a free-to-use online repository for architectural 3D building models. These models can be referenced in OpenStreetMap and are also displayed in the OSM-3D globe. However, the models can just as well be freely used for any other purpose (ODbL license). Try it out yourself at http://openbuildingmodels.uni-hd.de More information can be found in the Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenBuildingModels Please note that the platform is still in Beta stage. Any kind of feedback is welcome! Best regards, Matthias Uden (bvbmatze) (Chair of GIScience, University of Heidelberg, Germany) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenBuildingModels repository
Ups, sorry!! I did not mean to answer to this topic but start a new one... Forget about this reply. M. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenBuildingModels repository
Hello Matthias, what a surprise: I didn't expect an actual working beta for a building model repository. You know from previous discussions that I believe such a site is very much needed. So instead of repeating that, I'll skip straight to the criticism. ;) On 03.08.2012 11:19, Matthias wrote: a first prototype of the OpenBuildingModels platform is finally online. OpenBuildingModels aims to be a free-to-use online repository for architectural 3D building models. These models can be referenced in OpenStreetMap and are also displayed in the OSM-3D globe. I'm a bit worried that this might be too strongly tied to the Heidelberg OSM-3D globe. In particular, I have the following concerns: * Is there, or will there be, an equivalent to the OSM planet files, i.e. a possibility to download the entire content of your repository (including metadata)? * The VRML format is an odd choice. Afaik it is not commonly used in the 3D OSM community. What are your reasons for choosing it? * Will yo make the source code for the website freely available, and do you plan to accept outside contributions? I hope you are willing to make this resource usable and trustworthy for other developers. We really don't need multiple competing 3D model repositories at this point. However, the models can just as well be freely used for any other purpose (ODbL license). That's a worrisome choice, too - it seems that the models stored in the repository will therefore become incompatible with OSM data if we ever choose to use the relicensing clause of the Contributor Terms to switch to a different license? In my opinion, it would be more future-proof to define legal terms for your repository that would always at least allow the models to be used under the same license as the one used by OSM at that point in time. An appropriate legal arrangement would have to be found, but I think that this would be an important effort. Tobias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine
On 3 August 2012 11:07, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Moreover, having unpredictable mix in 'name' will degrade quality of any navigational maps or geocoding. While I cannot say anything regarding your other points, and, to be clear, I don't oppose you in general, I would like to disagree with this argument: Having an unpredictable mix in name will not degrade quality of anything, as long as you provide the languaged tags, too. Of course. The thing is, that we (overall Ukrainian community) do care about having all three languages in toponyms (Russian, Ukrainan, English), while the edit war started by silently killing Ukrainian. Which brings another question: What does everyone think if we go through all Ukraine and copy name tag with Ukrainian in it into name:uk? This will be a huge semi-automated task. Any opinions? Eugene ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine
Am 03.08.2012 12:55, schrieb Eugene Sandulenko: On 3 August 2012 11:07, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: Moreover, having unpredictable mix in 'name' will degrade quality of any navigational maps or geocoding. While I cannot say anything regarding your other points, and, to be clear, I don't oppose you in general, I would like to disagree with this argument: Having an unpredictable mix in name will not degrade quality of anything, as long as you provide the languaged tags, too. Of course. The thing is, that we (overall Ukrainian community) do care about having all three languages in toponyms (Russian, Ukrainan, English), while the edit war started by silently killing Ukrainian. Which brings another question: What does everyone think if we go through all Ukraine and copy name tag with Ukrainian in it into name:uk? This will be a huge semi-automated task. Any opinions? If it's clear that with that ukrainian goes to name:uk, I'm pretty sure that will be a good choice - and that's what I proposed here. And: I'm sure if anybody deletes name:uk, without the values being wrong (e.g. because your semi automated edit wrongly copied a russian name from name to name:uk ;) ), that would be opposed by a strong majority all over the world. The generic name tag is more difficult and has to be solved otherwise; as I think Fred still mentioned, in the Palestine/Israel region there was the situation where in fact name was deleted completely and only the two conflicting name:he and name:ar (I think, while I'm not sure) had been kept. Thus: deleting name:uk containing correct values before is seen as clear vandalism, so go for it and use the localized variants at least. regards Peter ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenBuildingModels repository
Hi Tobias, thanks for your valuable feedback. I agree with your opinions regarding 3D model repositories, collaborative work etc. Tobias Knerr: I'm a bit worried that this might be too strongly tied to the Heidelberg OSM-3D globe. In particular, I have the following concerns: * Is there, or will there be, an equivalent to the OSM planet files, i.e. a possibility to download the entire content of your repository (including metadata)? At the moment it certainly is strongly linked to our OSM-3D approach. However, the idea is to make the models of course available to any other 3D viewer that wants to use them. So far the models can only be browsed via the website and downloaded manually in .zip format. So there is no Download All, let alone an API or Web Service for the repository data. This is definitely desirable and on the wishlist for future features. * The VRML format is an odd choice. Afaik it is not commonly used in the 3D OSM community. What are your reasons for choosing it? That's right. The reason for choosing VRML for the time being is the internal compatibility with our OSM-3D databases. This is to be changed in the future or at least an automatic conversion (with e.g. MeshLab) should be integrated, so that the user doesn't have to bother about the format. * Will yo make the source code for the website freely available, and do you plan to accept outside contributions? Due to security issues (uploads to our servers) this is currently not planned. However, in general I do agree and would like to make it OpenSource. I have to discuss this with colleagues first :-) However, the models can just as well be freely used for any other purpose (ODbL license). That's a worrisome choice, too - it seems that the models stored in the repository will therefore become incompatible with OSM data if we ever choose to use the relicensing clause of the Contributor Terms to switch to a different license? In my opinion, it would be more future-proof to define legal terms for your repository that would always at least allow the models to be used under the same license as the one used by OSM at that point in time. An appropriate legal arrangement would have to be found, but I think that this would be an important effort. OK, maybe I got something wrong here. I chose ODbL because I thought that it is the new OSM license?! Admittedly, I don't know much about the recent license change and might have confused something. But in general I get your point, that the license should always be the same as OSM. I don't know, though, how to formulate that properly in the licensing terms. If you know more about this, you could maybe suggest a concrete licensing text. So... it is basically a working platform, but still many open issues remain :-) Cheers, Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage
On 03/08/2012 03:36, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to celebrate Team GB successes in the current Olympics: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ 1. I think a certain Attribution clause is missing[1] 2. I think they are merely pointing to the OSM main tileserver (tile.openstreetmap.org) - this doesn't seem in keeping with the OSM Tile Usage Policy[2] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy First reaction: Make sure everything near those markers is mapped well! (check for license bot damage?) And check whether those postboxes are actually mapped in OSM. Though I'm not sure how accurate that Gold Post Boxes map is. The Bradley Wiggins postbox is listed as Markey Street, Chorley, but the map seems to be pointing to Adlington, a few miles away. And the one for Westminster Abbey is marked at Trafalgar Square. Craig ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI collection methods
A normal mapping trip for me is 1-2 hours and 200 photos. I use the camera in my phone (I got through too many compact digital cameras) which can nicely be used with one hand while cycling and a garmin GPS for the track log. A habit of taking a photo of the GPS' clock at the start of each trip/day is good so you can check they sync well in JOSM. On 2 August 2012 20:17, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: Thanks all for your responses. I decided to enable geotagging for my photos and use OsmTracker for tracking (1 sec interval). Then I load the gpx file and the photos into JOSM where I put the POIs into OSM. Yesterday I marked in a bit more than 200 POIs and today might bring in rougly the same amount. So far, so good. - Svavar Kjarrval On 31/07/12 07:42, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Svavar Kjarrval sva...@kjarrval.is wrote: Hi. I'm trying to collect POI information en masse in my home town by taking daily walks in different areas each day. I use the program OsmPad to collect housenumbers and it's good for that purpose but I have to stop for awhile when typing in additional information like a housename or construction year. Now I'm trying to collect information about POIs like shops and other amenities; I discovered that it would take an even greater time if I were to use the same method for them, nevermind that OsmPad was not designed for such a massive amount of information. It started to hit me that I needed a method which would enable me to quickly collect the information and continue with my walk, sorting out the information later, or handing it over for someone else to type in. I started to look into other programs and stumbled upon OSMTracker and noticed a photo feature and a voice recorder. Sadly, I cannot move the cursor around to configure the coordinates. Otherwise it would solve my problem because then I'd be able to take a picture of the entrance and know where on the building it was. When I'm fairly close to buildings, there's a danger of the GPS chip losing contact with satellites and the GPS coordinates to be less accurate. Also, it could be hard for someone else to review my data and know where exactly I'm pointing the camera. What methods do you use? Are there any programs for Android which could fit my needs? You don't have to get everything right down to the centimeter. I wouldn't worry too much about a little lost accuracy here and there. If you're using OsmTracker then I assume you are editing in JOSM after you get home where you can review your trace and correct for any obvious GPS drifting. I've used OsmTracker a fair amount, sometimes in a car, sometimes on foot. Note for car use: It geotags pictures at the time that you exit the camera and return to OsmTracker, not when the picture was actually taken. If you are traveling at 70 mph this can be a big difference :) The other good option is to use a standalone GPS device and a camera. Dedicated GPS devices tend to have better antennas than phones so you don't have to worry about losing accuracy as much. Then you can match the trace from the GPS device to your pictures based on timestamp in JOSM and do your editing there where you can also reference aerial imagery, assuming Bing has some in your area. Other Android apps are OsmAnd which lets you add POIs and upload them directly to OSM from your phone. But it only allows you to capture name and opening hours. There is also Vespucci which is pretty powerful but will also be slow to use on the go. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vespucci Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Changes in OSM Inspector: WTFE layer gone, new Redaction layer
Hi, quick update on the world-wide redaction layer: On 07/26/2012 11:35 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: RED is for stuff deleted by the bot. You will be able to click on individual items and see the tags of the deleted object with a big WARNING saying that you must not copy that to OSM. Please heed the warning. Deleted items shown in red will now have a little trash can icon (illustration: http://www.remote.org/frederik/tmp/osmitrash.png). If you click that, then the item will be removed from the database. The items will not be removed now, but instead moved onto a new layer (colour GREEN), so that you can see that there was something here but someone else thought it was unimportant so it was trashed. Also, if you trash a way, all its nodes will now go with it. Still to do: Ability to trash modified objects rather than just deleted ones. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 03/08/2012 03:36, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it's nice that the Royal Mail have chosen to use OSM for the backdrop to their site for Great Britain Golden Postbox listings to celebrate Team GB successes in the current Olympics: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ 1. I think a certain Attribution clause is missing[1] 2. I think they are merely pointing to the OSM main tileserver (tile.openstreetmap.org) - this doesn't seem in keeping with the OSM Tile Usage Policy[2] [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy First reaction: Make sure everything near those markers is mapped well! (check for license bot damage?) And check whether those postboxes are actually mapped in OSM. Though I'm not sure how accurate that Gold Post Boxes map is. The Bradley Wiggins postbox is listed as Markey Street, Chorley, but the map seems to be pointing to Adlington, a few miles away. And the one for Westminster Abbey is marked at Trafalgar Square. Attribution has been remedied, complete with a twitter apology. https://twitter.com/royalmailnews/status/231381561604440064 Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Royal Mail Incorrect OSM Usage
On 3 August 2012 02:00, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: ... 2. I think they are merely pointing to the OSM main tileserver (tile.openstreetmap.org) - this doesn't seem in keeping with the OSM Tile Usage Policy[2] [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy I'm the sysadmin who looks after the tile server (caching)... I am really pleased they are using OSM. I don't mind them using tile.osm.org at all. I'll keep an eye on resources and add more if required. / Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Re. OpenBuildingModels repository
Hi Tobias, * Will yo make the source code for the website freely available, and do you plan to accept outside contributions? Matthias mentioned in his answer that this is not planned yet, but in fact I like this idea very much and certainly we would love to welcome outside contributions. At the moment it is just a matter of how much we can do this without running into secrurity risks, because internal info of our server structure might be released. I need to check this first... We just haven't thought into this deeply enough how this can be realized practically without giving too much control to our servers to the wild. But if you or anybody else is interested in contributing one might do this also on a more bilateral base. I'm a bit worried that this might be too strongly tied to the Heidelberg OSM-3D globe. this is only true for the web based 3d visualization (and there is no other global 3D OSM service around). But of course anybody can download the data and use it however he likes. So this web based 3D visualization is just an option to see the uploaded data live together with the other OSM data. all the best alex http://giscience.uni-hd.de ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenBuildingModels repository
On 3 aug 2012, at 11:19, Matthias u...@uni-heidelberg.de wrote: Hi all, a first prototype of the OpenBuildingModels platform is finally online. OpenBuildingModels aims to be a free-to-use online repository for architectural 3D building models. These models can be referenced in OpenStreetMap and are also displayed in the OSM-3D globe. However, the models can just as well be freely used for any other purpose (ODbL license). Try it out yourself at http://openbuildingmodels.uni-hd.de Any plans on replacing the current Windows only model viewer with a HTML5/Canvas/insert buzzword here 3D viewer? More information can be found in the Wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenBuildingModels Please note that the platform is still in Beta stage. Any kind of feedback is welcome! Best regards, Matthias Uden (bvbmatze) (Chair of GIScience, University of Heidelberg, Germany) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed
Paul, are you still running it 3 times a day? It seems to be in a frozen state since at least 4 days. Fixed errors still show up. Any idea? Thanks, Simone On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Minor update: I am now running three times a day. Exact upload times depend on runtime which is largely a factor of dev server speed. Errors points are definitely going down. Many thanks for David Groom for both hosting the visualization and for often fixing errors before I can get to them, even though I know when my runs finish. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 11:55 PM To: 'osm-talk' Subject: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed I have resumed my daily generation of coastline files. These are generated with the coastcheck program[1] from my jxapi database starting at 5 AM pacific time. They take 3-4 hours to generate and upload, depending on my internet speed at the time. The completed files are uploaded to http://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/coastlines/ If opening these shapefiles in QGIS be sure to create a spatial index for tolerable performance. There is a visualization of errors at http://www.wightpaths.co.uk/coast/ Many of the errors appear to be short errors between ways that became disconnected. More complicated errors are often best fixed by deleting the bad coastline and retracing. [1]: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/coastcheck/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed
Whoops - looks like I had disabled the cron job. Files should start uploading at about 2-3 AM UTC. -Original Message- From: Simone Cortesi [mailto:sim...@cortesi.com] Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:34 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: osm-talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed Paul, are you still running it 3 times a day? It seems to be in a frozen state since at least 4 days. Fixed errors still show up. Any idea? Thanks, Simone On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Minor update: I am now running three times a day. Exact upload times depend on runtime which is largely a factor of dev server speed. Errors points are definitely going down. Many thanks for David Groom for both hosting the visualization and for often fixing errors before I can get to them, even though I know when my runs finish. From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 11:55 PM To: 'osm-talk' Subject: [OSM-talk] Coastline generation resumed I have resumed my daily generation of coastline files. These are generated with the coastcheck program[1] from my jxapi database starting at 5 AM pacific time. They take 3-4 hours to generate and upload, depending on my internet speed at the time. The completed files are uploaded to http://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/coastlines/ If opening these shapefiles in QGIS be sure to create a spatial index for tolerable performance. There is a visualization of errors at http://www.wightpaths.co.uk/coast/ Many of the errors appear to be short errors between ways that became disconnected. More complicated errors are often best fixed by deleting the bad coastline and retracing. [1]: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/coastcheck/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Private OpenStreet's Strategy
hi all all of you know that we host the private openstreetmap here under Indonesia Internet Exchange, and good news it, Australia, Canada, and several country try to implement this model, because that is not good a hoop between server must go to USA. China also agresif lobby a ISPs here that have big traffic to link direct between Indoensia - China. by pass the USA internet network. these benefit both us to access both server faster, without have to ping pong to USA backbone. yes, IIX just awared as the best backbone in the world..this is pure US$ 0 free community internet backbone development, smiliar with OSM model, but for infrastructure. now to access our private openstreetmap (osmosa.net), faster for several city, esp in java island. and now also the IIX foundr (Johar Alam) develop IIX to Sulawesi Island and another 8 area all over Indonesia from Sumatera to West Indonesia. our plan to implement as much as possible OSM integration in our openstreetmap server called osmosa.net i have several question. 1. need your feedback regarding several extension on OSM outside OSM.org, and is it good bring all to the local OSM (osmosa.net)... we implemented like tracking, routing etc.. 2. i found that the tile for local country growing, and yes, there are several access from outside country (so we decided to implement global tiles), and shocked the hard disk eaten a lot, we need more space.. but we still not find a business model.. we use our programming skill to get revenue from integrate with openstreet with our apps to buy infrastructure.. anyone have experience with this? HOT team? 3. we found regenerate the planet data to our server consume time, and we cant make the data in our osmosa as uptodate as osm, and need almost 2 week for 1 time planet regenerating, anyone can help? 4. integration with osm is new topic, how to get link with all of them? esp we know, developer using different tech, python, java, etc.. how to communicate with them? regards frans ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSRM
Does anybody know how to get in contact with the person who runs it? I've found some routing bugs that aren't OSM data bugs (I've double checked the area it's happening in more than once to make sure). It seems like his server never imported the road(s) properly because they haven't been edited in over 2 months. Thanks. --James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSRM
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:46 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Does anybody know how to get in contact with the person who runs it? I've found some routing bugs that aren't OSM data bugs (I've double checked the area it's happening in more than once to make sure). It seems like his server never imported the road(s) properly because they haven't been edited in over 2 months. Get on IRC and ping DennisL But right now his nick is set to DennisL_vacation so there may not be an immediate response :) If it is a software bug, there is also the issue tracker on github: https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSRM
He's on IRC as DennisL (although his handle is currently DennisL_Vacation). Or try github: https://github.com/DennisOSRM Martijn On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:46 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Does anybody know how to get in contact with the person who runs it? I've found some routing bugs that aren't OSM data bugs (I've double checked the area it's happening in more than once to make sure). It seems like his server never imported the road(s) properly because they haven't been edited in over 2 months. Thanks. --James ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vandalisme in openstreetmap?
Precies. Vaag kan ik me herinneren dat we er wel eens met AND over gesproken hebben en dat het een kwestie was van voldoende gedetailleerd zijn voor hun doeleinden, namelijk routering. Zonder referentie materiaal of controle ter plekke zou je dit ook nooit opmerken. Groet, Floris 2012/8/2 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: Dat is niet kapot gegaan tijdens de import, maar gewoon de kwaliteit van de brondata. On 08/02/2012 07:12 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Als dit een foutje is van tijdens de import. Kan daar dan geen correctieprogramma voor geschreven worden? Mvrgr Robert Elsenaar -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Edwin Wisse Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:27 AM To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vandalisme in openstreetmap? Blij te horen dat het alleen maar een probleem met geimporteerde data is. Ik ga maar eens een avond straten rechttrekken. Groeten, Edwin -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vandalisme in openstreetmap?
On 2012-08-03 10:37, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Precies. Vaag kan ik me herinneren dat we er wel eens met AND over gesproken hebben en dat het een kwestie was van voldoende gedetailleerd zijn voor hun doeleinden, namelijk routering. Zonder referentie materiaal of controle ter plekke zou je dit ook nooit opmerken. Is een valide argument. Het zou ook best eens leuk zijn om de kaart te zien als grafenkaart. Dus alleen de nodes op de knooppunten behouden en de rest verwijderen. Maarten 2012/8/2 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: Dat is niet kapot gegaan tijdens de import, maar gewoon de kwaliteit van de brondata. On 08/02/2012 07:12 PM, Robert Elsenaar wrote: Als dit een foutje is van tijdens de import. Kan daar dan geen correctieprogramma voor geschreven worden? Mvrgr Robert Elsenaar -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Edwin Wisse Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:27 AM To: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vandalisme in openstreetmap? Blij te horen dat het alleen maar een probleem met geimporteerde data is. Ik ga maar eens een avond straten rechttrekken. Groeten, Edwin -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[OSM-talk-nl] openkvk bedrijfsnamen / geolocaties bulkimporteren?
Dit weekend zal er weer een update van openkvk plaatsvinden. Al eerder hebben we veel adressen kunnen koppelen met de BAG. Daarmee zijn geolocaties eenvoudig te onttrekken. Zou er belangstelling zijn om automatisch een PoI import te doen met data uit openkvk, waar beschikbaar inclusief amenity? Stefan ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] openkvk bedrijfsnamen / geolocaties bulkimporteren?
Quoting Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Dit weekend zal er weer een update van openkvk plaatsvinden. Al eerder hebben we veel adressen kunnen koppelen met de BAG. Daarmee zijn geolocaties eenvoudig te onttrekken. Zou er belangstelling zijn om automatisch een PoI import te doen met data uit openkvk, waar beschikbaar inclusief amenity? Stefan ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl Automatisch importeren lijkt me sowieso niet wenselijk, onder meer vanwege het risico op duplicates. Wat je beter zou kunnen doen is OSM-files beschikbaar stellen met deze amenities, uitgesplitst naar 4-cijferig postcodegebied. Dan kunnen deze handmatig gemerged worden met de al aanwezige info. Dit gaat jouw wel lukken :) Hiervoor heb ik wel belangstelling. Ik denk dat het verstandig is om eerst de mapping van OpenKVK naar OSM apart te bespreken. Welk voorstel heb je hiervoor klaarliggen? Groeten, Frank ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] openkvk bedrijfsnamen / geolocaties bulkimporteren?
\ik geloof dat dit mijn eerste post op Talk-nl is dus even kijken of het goed gaat. Zoals je Stefan weet ben ik daar ook al eens mee bezig geweest. Als het automatisch kan dan graag. Ik ben liever lui dan moe maar vrees net als Frank dat dit lastig wordt. Ik heb ooit een concept gemaakt om mappers te helpen deze data in OSM te krijgen. Dat heeft me best veel moeite gekost (ben geen ICT-er) maar het idee spreekt me nog steeds aan. Zie hieronder voorbeeld van kaart met een aantal POI. Let niet er even niet op of alles juist is.. het gaat meer om het concept. http://home.xmsnet.nl/peewee/poi.html Klik op de POI en je ziet een paar opties. Is dat iets dan anderen op OSM-talk ms kunnen verbeteren? Als ik me goed herinner zou Stefan misschien nog eens een poging wagen zo'n dergelijk kaartje te maken. Misschien per catergorie POI omdat het anders wel erg vol wordt. Misschien ook een onderwerp voor tijdens een OSM borrel in Utrecht? Op 3 augustus 2012 14:56 schreef Frank Steggink stegg...@steggink.org het volgende: Quoting Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Dit weekend zal er weer een update van openkvk plaatsvinden. Al eerder hebben we veel adressen kunnen koppelen met de BAG. Daarmee zijn geolocaties eenvoudig te onttrekken. Zou er belangstelling zijn om automatisch een PoI import te doen met data uit openkvk, waar beschikbaar inclusief amenity? Stefan __**_ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-nlhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl Automatisch importeren lijkt me sowieso niet wenselijk, onder meer vanwege het risico op duplicates. Wat je beter zou kunnen doen is OSM-files beschikbaar stellen met deze amenities, uitgesplitst naar 4-cijferig postcodegebied. Dan kunnen deze handmatig gemerged worden met de al aanwezige info. Dit gaat jouw wel lukken :) Hiervoor heb ik wel belangstelling. Ik denk dat het verstandig is om eerst de mapping van OpenKVK naar OSM apart te bespreken. Welk voorstel heb je hiervoor klaarliggen? Groeten, Frank __**_ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-nlhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[OSM-talk-nl] De Redaction BOT is klaar: zijn de data nu ODBL of moet er nog meer gebeuren
Volgens de blog van Harry Wood (http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/07/26/automated-redactions-complete/) is de bot klaar en zijn alle data die niet onder ODBL vallen verwijderd. Betekent dat nu dat we over zijn op een nieuwe licentie? In dat geval dan zou ik wel verwachten dat de relevante web pagina’s en Copyright vermeldingen ofwel worden aangepast ofwel worden verwijderd, Hugo___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] openkvk bedrijfsnamen / geolocaties bulkimporteren?
Voor een dergelijke osm file heb ik ook meer dan belangstelling. Voor de mergel activiteiten zou eigenlijk een mooie functie in JOSM moeten zijn. Met vriendelijke groeten Robert Elsenaar Frank Steggink stegg...@steggink.org schreef: Quoting Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Dit weekend zal er weer een update van openkvk plaatsvinden. Al eerder hebben we veel adressen kunnen koppelen met de BAG. Daarmee zijn geolocaties eenvoudig te onttrekken. Zou er belangstelling zijn om automatisch een PoI import te doen met data uit openkvk, waar beschikbaar inclusief amenity? Stefan ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl Automatisch importeren lijkt me sowieso niet wenselijk, onder meer vanwege het risico op duplicates. Wat je beter zou kunnen doen is OSM-files beschikbaar stellen met deze amenities, uitgesplitst naar 4-cijferig postcodegebied. Dan kunnen deze handmatig gemerged worden met de al aanwezige info. Dit gaat jouw wel lukken :) Hiervoor heb ik wel belangstelling. Ik denk dat het verstandig is om eerst de mapping van OpenKVK naar OSM apart te bespreken. Welk voorstel heb je hiervoor klaarliggen? Groeten, Frank ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] De Redaction BOT is klaar: zijn de data nu ODBL of moet er nog meer gebeuren
Het staat er allemaal in: 'The data now in the live OpenStreetMap database is largely in a state where it can be declared ODbL licensed, however the license hasn’t changed yet. We will be posting a further update when this is imminent.' Henk weet misschien meer over de status. 2012/8/3 Hugo Holscher hugoholsc...@gmail.com Volgens de blog van Harry Wood (http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/07/26/automated-redactions-complete/) is de bot klaar en zijn alle data die niet onder ODBL vallen verwijderd. Betekent dat nu dat we over zijn op een nieuwe licentie? In dat geval dan zou ik wel verwachten dat de relevante web pagina’s en Copyright vermeldingen ofwel worden aangepast ofwel worden verwijderd, Hugo ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [talk-au] Brisbane bus stop density
You can see them pretty clearly on StreetView. Looks like each of those clusters is one real bus stop - not necessarily on both sides of the road. Steve On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I see a cluster of bus stops in an area that looks unusual. Would a Brisbane local have a look when they get a chance? Not an emergency, obviously. They've been there since 2009. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.403455lon=152.943559zoom=18layers=M ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Sydney GeoRabble OSM Talk
I'm scheduled to give an OSM themed talk at the Sydney GeoRabble. http://georabble.org/2012/08/02/first-speakers-announced-for-georabble-sydney-5/ Despite using OSM in the name, my talk will apply to generic *osm.org instances. I'm told there is free Pizza for those that attend. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[Talk-br] Vale do Aço no mapa
Oi pessoal, Recebi contato de Rodrigo e Ana, duas pessoas da região do Vale do Aço em Minas, sobre uma possível importação. Conversamos um pouco mais, e a Ana me informou que o mapa da região se alterou muito recentemente e por isso querem fazer importações. Investiguei um pouco, e, pelo que parece, a alterações aconteceram por causa da mudança de licença. Foi uma mudança considerável: Antes: http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=-19.482129lng=-42.545242zoom=13styleId=1opened_tab=0 Depois: http://osm.org/go/PBKa4xx-- Você conseguem imaginar uma maneira de tentar reverter esta alteração? Eu imagino (espero) que os mapeadores originais não ficaram sabendo da mudança de licença, e se este for o caso e se eles aceitarem a nova licença, podemos resgatar estes dados. Eu tentei buscar informações sobre estes editores, mas parece que as alterações antigas foram escondidas. Vitor George mapaslivres.org twitter.com/mapaslivres ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] OSM-basierte Verkehrskarte beim Bayerischern Rundfunk
Unter http://www.br.de/themen/aktuell/inhalt/verkehr/staukarte-hintergrundinfos100.html gibts auch noch ein paar Hintergrundinfos dazu. MfG Andreas ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Freitickets für Campus Party Europe zu gewinnen
Hallo, vielleicht will ja kurzfristig jemand hingehen und an OSM werkeln und darüber diskutieren: http://blog.wikimedia.de/2012/08/02/tickets-fur-die-campus-party-europe-zu-gewinnen/ Das ganze wird vom 21. bis 26. August auf dem Gelände des ehemaligen Berliner Flughafens Tempelhof stattfinden. Ich finde das Veranstaltungskonzept spannend um freie Software/Technik/Wissen voran zu bringen. Man wird allerdings auch gute Nerven für die 6 Tage a 24 Stunden brauchen. Grüße Tim ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: [Ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas)
He was one amazing guy, with lots of energy and enthusiasm. His experiments with GPS devices in spectacles cases were just out of the box. Sad. RIP. On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: I met Kenneth first when I came to attend the Freemap India workshops in 2008. It was with him that I realized what foss was about. He changed my life. On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan logic.li...@gmail.com wrote: Sad. RIP -- Forwarded message -- From: JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:25 PM Subject: [Ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas) To: ILUG-C il...@ae.iitm.ac.in, Bangalore Python Users Group - India bangpyp...@python.org, Mailing list for the PyCon India conference inpy...@python.org, ilug...@googlegroups.com Hi All, Just now I got a message that our dear KG (Kenneth Gonsalvas) passed away. He was admitted in hospital due to Asthma attack and passed away today morning. Cremation will be held at ooty on 4th Aug 2012. -- ** JAGANADH G http://jaganadhg.in *ILUGCBE* http://ilugcbe.org.in ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc -- Regards Srikanth.L http://j.mp/SrikanthL ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: [Ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalves)
RIP ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Kenneth Gonsalvas a short bio
Kenneth Gonsalvas (KG / lawgon) passed away on 3rd Aug 2012. He was leading light, mentor, evangelist and practitioner of Free and Open Source Software. He was a geek up to his last moments. His demise is a great loss to FOSS Community in India. May his soul rest in peace. A short bio of Kenneth Gonsalvas (Prepared by KG only) Although he has no formal training in the IT field, Kenneth Gonsalves has been programming since 1986, starting with Turbo Pascal, then moving to Perl and finally to Python in 2003. Since then he has focused on Python in general and the Django web frame work in particular. He is an open source enthusiast and has spoken and written on open source right from 1995 when he was first introduced to it. He has conducted over 50 seminars and workshops in python and Django. He was the founder president of the Indian Python Software Society and a member of the team that has organised the highly successful Indian python conferences from 2009 to 2011. He is now based in Ooty where he writes and consults on open source. He also conducts a job oriented course in python and django. His other main interest is golf and he holds an international certification as a golf referee and has refereed several national level golf tournaments. He writes a regular column called 'Foss is fun' for the LFY monthly. Most of his code contributions are here: http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/; He was a good mentor and friend to many of us. Some of his contributions, writing and rambling can be found [1]http://lawgon.livejournal.com/ [2] http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/ [3]http://search.cpan.org/~lawgon/ [4]http://www.linuxforu.com/author/kenneth-gonsalves/ [5]https://people.djangoproject.com/lawgon/ [6]http://in.linkedin.com/pub/kenneth-gonsalves/4/565/10b -- ** JAGANADH G http://jaganadhg.in *ILUGCBE* http://ilugcbe.org.in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: [Ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalves)
Very unexpected, His presence will always be remembered. RIP Lawgon - Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Sanjay Bhangar sanjaybhan...@gmail.com wrote: RIP ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Service usato per fare inversione
Il 03 agosto 2012 04:40, EdoardoT tona.edoa...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho provato anch'io a usare OSMR per provare degli incroci e subito sono incappato in una cosa strana... http://map.project-osrm.org/12L In pratica per uscire dall'incrocio imbocca la rampa sbagliata (quella per andare a sud anziche' a nord) costringendo l'auto a una curva a gomito semi-illegale... Mancano le relazioni di turn restriction[1], ed essendo la rampa sinistra un tutt'uno con il pezzo precedente, lui ti fa prendere quella (per lui è una svolta in meno) visto che è indifferente. Si dovrebbe: 1) separare la rampa dal resto della way al bivio 2) spezzare la primary nei nodi di incrocio 3) inserire le relazioni di obbligo di svolta a dx (rampa a dx) e sx (rampa a sx) 4) idem con le rampe di uscita dalla primary Come si fa ad indicare che non si può attraversare la mezzeria di una strada (doppia linea continua se ricordo bene) ? Sarebbe la soluzione almeno di questi due problemi c'é la relazione no_u_turn, ma non credo sia un gran che usata. Però nel caso in esame una cosa del genere va bene se NESSUNO è autorizzato a girare a DX dalla principale nella service e/o, viceversa, nessuno dalla service può girare a sx, ma solo a dx. In quel caso tanto vale mettere delle normali turn restriction (divieto di svolta a dx dalla service) e il routing va a posto. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions -- Maurizio Daniele - maurizio.daniele (a) gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Service usato per fare inversione
Come si fa a segnalare un bug allo sviluppatore ? Anche io ne ho trovato uno molto strano e vorrei farglielo presente. On 03/08/2012, Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com wrote: Il 03 agosto 2012 04:40, EdoardoT tona.edoa...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho provato anch'io a usare OSMR per provare degli incroci e subito sono incappato in una cosa strana... http://map.project-osrm.org/12L In pratica per uscire dall'incrocio imbocca la rampa sbagliata (quella per andare a sud anziche' a nord) costringendo l'auto a una curva a gomito semi-illegale... Mancano le relazioni di turn restriction[1], ed essendo la rampa sinistra un tutt'uno con il pezzo precedente, lui ti fa prendere quella (per lui è una svolta in meno) visto che è indifferente. Si dovrebbe: 1) separare la rampa dal resto della way al bivio 2) spezzare la primary nei nodi di incrocio 3) inserire le relazioni di obbligo di svolta a dx (rampa a dx) e sx (rampa a sx) 4) idem con le rampe di uscita dalla primary Come si fa ad indicare che non si può attraversare la mezzeria di una strada (doppia linea continua se ricordo bene) ? Sarebbe la soluzione almeno di questi due problemi c'é la relazione no_u_turn, ma non credo sia un gran che usata. Però nel caso in esame una cosa del genere va bene se NESSUNO è autorizzato a girare a DX dalla principale nella service e/o, viceversa, nessuno dalla service può girare a sx, ma solo a dx. In quel caso tanto vale mettere delle normali turn restriction (divieto di svolta a dx dalla service) e il routing va a posto. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions -- Maurizio Daniele - maurizio.daniele (a) gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Service usato per fare inversione
Il 08/03/2012 12:25 PM, Francesco Cherubini scrisse: Come si fa a segnalare un bug allo sviluppatore ? Anche io ne ho trovato uno molto strano e vorrei farglielo presente. https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM/issues ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: Conversione tra CRS diversi [risolto]
Ok risolto... era la stringa di proiezione. Per di più mi sono accorto solo adesso che avevo mandato una email con [risolto] a me stesso anziché a talk- it ... no comment vi prego.:-P Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: R: Re: Conversione tra CRS diversi [risolto]
Il 03/08/2012 15:24, stefano.fracc...@libero.it ha scritto: Ok risolto... era la stringa di proiezione. Per di più mi sono accorto solo adesso che avevo mandato una email con [risolto] a me stesso anziché a talk- it ... no comment vi prego.:-P Stefano Bravo toso! :) P. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Service usato per fare inversione
Ok, non ho mai messo la relazione turn restriction in questo tipo di svincolo ma in effetti e necessaria, faro' una revisione delle strade della zona :) Grazie! * * * Edoardo Tona* Il giorno 03 agosto 2012 02:31, Maurizio Daniele maurizio.dani...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 03 agosto 2012 04:40, EdoardoT tona.edoa...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho provato anch'io a usare OSMR per provare degli incroci e subito sono incappato in una cosa strana... http://map.project-osrm.org/12L In pratica per uscire dall'incrocio imbocca la rampa sbagliata (quella per andare a sud anziche' a nord) costringendo l'auto a una curva a gomito semi-illegale... Mancano le relazioni di turn restriction[1], ed essendo la rampa sinistra un tutt'uno con il pezzo precedente, lui ti fa prendere quella (per lui è una svolta in meno) visto che è indifferente. Si dovrebbe: 1) separare la rampa dal resto della way al bivio 2) spezzare la primary nei nodi di incrocio 3) inserire le relazioni di obbligo di svolta a dx (rampa a dx) e sx (rampa a sx) 4) idem con le rampe di uscita dalla primary Come si fa ad indicare che non si può attraversare la mezzeria di una strada (doppia linea continua se ricordo bene) ? Sarebbe la soluzione almeno di questi due problemi c'é la relazione no_u_turn, ma non credo sia un gran che usata. Però nel caso in esame una cosa del genere va bene se NESSUNO è autorizzato a girare a DX dalla principale nella service e/o, viceversa, nessuno dalla service può girare a sx, ma solo a dx. In quel caso tanto vale mettere delle normali turn restriction (divieto di svolta a dx dalla service) e il routing va a posto. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions -- Maurizio Daniele - maurizio.daniele (a) gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-dk] En succeshistorie
Super fedt lægger du den ind på wikien under eksempler på brugen af OSM data: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Eksempler_p%C3%A5_brug_af_OSM_data Hygge Jens Den 2. aug. 2012 18.34 skrev Esben Damgaard maill...@hvemder.dk: Hej mappere, Jeg vil lige fortælle en lille succeshistorie fra Odense. Da jeg for en del tid siden var med en bybus i Odense, lagde jeg mærke til at kortet de brugte på skærmene var identisk med det jeg har arbejdet så mange timer med: OpenStreetMap. Der var dog ingen kreditering, så jeg valgte at skrive en venlig mail med at jeg var glad for at de brugte OSM men at licensen kræver kreditering og hvordan det nemt kunne indsættes. Der gik lidt tid, men så fik jeg et svar. De vidste ikke at de brugte OSM, men havde kontaktet Thoreb (der laver det for dem) og de bekræftede at det var det og de ville få kreditering på ved næste opdatering. Vedhæftet har jeg et billede fra en bybus i Odense. Jeg er stolt. Hilsen Esben Damgaard ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] En succeshistorie
Sejt! Må jeg poste billedet andetsteds, fx på Facebook? - Peter Brodersen 2012/8/2 Esben Damgaard maill...@hvemder.dk: Hej mappere, Jeg vil lige fortælle en lille succeshistorie fra Odense. Da jeg for en del tid siden var med en bybus i Odense, lagde jeg mærke til at kortet de brugte på skærmene var identisk med det jeg har arbejdet så mange timer med: OpenStreetMap. Der var dog ingen kreditering, så jeg valgte at skrive en venlig mail med at jeg var glad for at de brugte OSM men at licensen kræver kreditering og hvordan det nemt kunne indsættes. Der gik lidt tid, men så fik jeg et svar. De vidste ikke at de brugte OSM, men havde kontaktet Thoreb (der laver det for dem) og de bekræftede at det var det og de ville få kreditering på ved næste opdatering. Vedhæftet har jeg et billede fra en bybus i Odense. Jeg er stolt. Hilsen Esben Damgaard ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] En succeshistorie
Det skal jeg nok prøve at huske. Den 03-08-2012 08:12, Jens Winbladh skrev: Super fedt lægger du den ind på wikien under eksempler på brugen af OSM data: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Eksempler_p%C3%A5_brug_af_OSM_data Hygge Jens Den 2. aug. 2012 18.34 skrev Esben Damgaard maill...@hvemder.dk mailto:maill...@hvemder.dk: Hej mappere, Jeg vil lige fortælle en lille succeshistorie fra Odense. Da jeg for en del tid siden var med en bybus i Odense, lagde jeg mærke til at kortet de brugte på skærmene var identisk med det jeg har arbejdet så mange timer med: OpenStreetMap. Der var dog ingen kreditering, så jeg valgte at skrive en venlig mail med at jeg var glad for at de brugte OSM men at licensen kræver kreditering og hvordan det nemt kunne indsættes. Der gik lidt tid, men så fik jeg et svar. De vidste ikke at de brugte OSM, men havde kontaktet Thoreb (der laver det for dem) og de bekræftede at det var det og de ville få kreditering på ved næste opdatering. Vedhæftet har jeg et billede fra en bybus i Odense. Jeg er stolt. Hilsen Esben Damgaard ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] En succeshistorie
Gør bare det. Jeg frigiver den som CC BY-SA. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.da Den 03-08-2012 16:05, Peter Brodersen skrev: Sejt! Må jeg poste billedet andetsteds, fx på Facebook? - Peter Brodersen 2012/8/2 Esben Damgaard maill...@hvemder.dk: Hej mappere, Jeg vil lige fortælle en lille succeshistorie fra Odense. Da jeg for en del tid siden var med en bybus i Odense, lagde jeg mærke til at kortet de brugte på skærmene var identisk med det jeg har arbejdet så mange timer med: OpenStreetMap. Der var dog ingen kreditering, så jeg valgte at skrive en venlig mail med at jeg var glad for at de brugte OSM men at licensen kræver kreditering og hvordan det nemt kunne indsættes. Der gik lidt tid, men så fik jeg et svar. De vidste ikke at de brugte OSM, men havde kontaktet Thoreb (der laver det for dem) og de bekræftede at det var det og de ville få kreditering på ved næste opdatering. Vedhæftet har jeg et billede fra en bybus i Odense. Jeg er stolt. Hilsen Esben Damgaard ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Worcestershire Public Rights of Way - OGL
Hi All, I am happy to confirm that I have received confirmation that the PRoW data held at [1] is available under the OGL licence. This data is the digitised Definitive Map, and is provided as a WMS map service. This can be viewed online (through [1] or [2]), alternatively it can be opened in QGIS, or similar. Direct imports into OSM are not advised as most of the paths are already mapped. This data should therefore be used as a cross-reference and for confirming path types. Worcestershire have got one of the better GIS services and initial contact with their GIS Programme Coordinator seemed positive. Note: This follows the earlier approval to use the Definitive Statements held by Worcestershire CC. Regards, Rob [1] http://data.gov.uk/dataset/public-rights-of-way/ [2] http://gis.worcestershire.gov.uk/WccGISOnline/maps.aspx ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes
Hi all, Good to see those who came to the social in Coleshill last night. As I mentioned, I've got the locations of all the postboxes and post offices in the UK (taken from this FOI requesthttp://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/postbox_data_in_central_collecti_2) in Scraperwiki here: https://scraperwiki.com/scrapers/uk_postboxes/ (Ignore what it says about the error, all the data is there). If you're not familiar with Scraperwiki, you can query the data and get it back in a variety of formats by clicking 'Explore with API'. It's basically SQL, so if you know what you're doing with SQL, then you should be good. If anyone wants any pointers, let me know. Will be interested to see what people do with it! Cheers Stuart ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes
What licence is the data under? Cheers Andy From: Stuart Harrison [mailto:pezho...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 August 2012 11:26 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes Hi all, Good to see those who came to the social in Coleshill last night. As I mentioned, I've got the locations of all the postboxes and post offices in the UK (taken from this FOI request http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/postbox_data_in_central_collecti_2 ) in Scraperwiki here: https://scraperwiki.com/scrapers/uk_postboxes/ (Ignore what it says about the error, all the data is there). If you're not familiar with Scraperwiki, you can query the data and get it back in a variety of formats by clicking 'Explore with API'. It's basically SQL, so if you know what you're doing with SQL, then you should be good. If anyone wants any pointers, let me know. Will be interested to see what people do with it! Cheers Stuart ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes
Looking at the FOI request: http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/119687/response/296922/attach/ 5/attachment.txt Ed From: Andy Robinson [mailto:ajrli...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 August 2012 11:37 To: 'Stuart Harrison'; talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes What licence is the data under? Cheers Andy From: Stuart Harrison [mailto:pezho...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 August 2012 11:26 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes Hi all, Good to see those who came to the social in Coleshill last night. As I mentioned, I've got the locations of all the postboxes and post offices in the UK (taken from this FOI request http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/postbox_data_in_central_colle cti_2 ) in Scraperwiki here: https://scraperwiki.com/scrapers/uk_postboxes/ (Ignore what it says about the error, all the data is there). If you're not familiar with Scraperwiki, you can query the data and get it back in a variety of formats by clicking 'Explore with API'. It's basically SQL, so if you know what you're doing with SQL, then you should be good. If anyone wants any pointers, let me know. Will be interested to see what people do with it! Cheers Stuart ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Worcestershire Public Rights of Way - OGL
Excellent, thanks a lot for that, very useful. Jonathan On 03/08/2012 11:09, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi All, I am happy to confirm that I have received confirmation that the PRoW data held at [1] is available under the OGL licence. This data is the digitised Definitive Map, and is provided as a WMS map service. This can be viewed online (through [1] or [2]), alternatively it can be opened in QGIS, or similar. Direct imports into OSM are not advised as most of the paths are already mapped. This data should therefore be used as a cross-reference and for confirming path types. Worcestershire have got one of the better GIS services and initial contact with their GIS Programme Coordinator seemed positive. Note: This follows the earlier approval to use the Definitive Statements held by Worcestershire CC. Regards, Rob [1] http://data.gov.uk/dataset/public-rights-of-way/ [2] http://gis.worcestershire.gov.uk/WccGISOnline/maps.aspx ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes
Hi Sorry to miss the social meet last night hoping to be at next one. I think it was at local gov camp recently someone mentioned that Royal Mail were documenting not only every post box but also the location of letterboxes on every house ... With scraperwiki could link that to what postoffices have disabled access http://pola.directenquiries.com/defaultPOL.aspx although it is questionable about how accurate it is as saying for example the Birmingham branch says it has wheelchair access doesn't account for the gradient outsides such as the main one in Birmingham. Birmingham Branch 1 Pinfold Street Birmingham B2 4AA It says parking within 50 meters but no mention of uphill gradient that you then have to go up to top of Pinfold Street and round down Hill Street negociating a steep hill to get the wheelchair accessible entrance in ironically named Hill Street (Pinfold Street has steep flight of steps into building) cheers, Alison On 3 Aug 2012, at 11:37, Andy Robinson wrote: What licence is the data under? Cheers Andy From: Stuart Harrison [mailto:pezho...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 August 2012 11:26 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Postboxes Hi all, Good to see those who came to the social in Coleshill last night. As I mentioned, I've got the locations of all the postboxes and post offices in the UK (taken from this FOI request) in Scraperwiki here: https://scraperwiki.com/scrapers/uk_postboxes/ (Ignore what it says about the error, all the data is there). If you're not familiar with Scraperwiki, you can query the data and get it back in a variety of formats by clicking 'Explore with API'. It's basically SQL, so if you know what you're doing with SQL, then you should be good. If anyone wants any pointers, let me know. Will be interested to see what people do with it! Cheers Stuart ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-se] trängselskatt
Markus Lindholm skrev 2012-08-02 09:33: Varför inte börja med att kolla hur det är taggat i Stockholm? För konceptet är väl identiskt? Andra städer att titta på är Oslo och London. ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] Köpa en riktig GPS
Den stora fördelen med en liten smidig separat GPS-modul är att man kan placera den på ett bra ställe där förutsättningen för god mottagning finns. Bra ställen som funkar för mig är: Till fots: I hatten På kepsen Under mössan Cykling: På cykelhjälmen På axelremmen till en ryggsäck. Bil: Längst fram inne i bilen alldeles under vindrutan. I ryggsäcken, bröstfickan, jackfickan eller byxfickan fungerar det ej något vidare på pga. att signalerna är blir (från vissa satelliter) skuggade av egna kroppen... Själv använder jag en Globalsat blåtands GPS med SIRF III chip. Har med programmet sirfdemo[1] stängt av funktionen track smoothing för ännu bättre repeterbarhet mer sann och mindre filtrerad data. Mvh [1] http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25575 Obs använd på egen risk! -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Pontus Freyhult [mailto:pontus_osm_tal...@soua.net] Skickat: den 2 augusti 2012 09:29 Till: Björn Lindahl Kopia: Talk-se@openstreetmap.org Ämne: Re: [Talk-se] Köpa en riktig GPS Hej, Även om det verkar vara en bra idé att köpa en handhållen gps på sikt känner jag inte för att lägga ut de pengarna i dagsläget. Att köra en gps-logger med blåtand kopplad till mobilen känns mest attraktivt just nu i och med att det går att använda den istället för inbyggda enligt tipset på app av Stefan Henrikson. Det känns faktiskt som att vinsten med att köra helt handburen gps blir ganska liten jämfört med att köra separat gps via bt till Smartphone som har bra kartappar. Telefonen jag har (SGS3) har dessutom riktigt bra batteritid så det är lugnt att använda inbyggda gps:en på den i tid och otid också om man vill det. [..] Om jag ska passa på att vara lite motvalls så är min personliga erfarenhet inte att dedikerade GPSer fungerar bättre än sådana som är integrerade i telefoner. Jag har visserligen inte själv ägt någon av premium-modellerna, men de gånger jag haft kontakt med sådana har jag inte upplevt att jag fått bättre fixar eller spårloggar (däremot har det ibland funnits andra detaljer jag uppskattat och blivit imponerad av). Blåtandsdosor har jag inte haft någon kontakt med, men i allmänhet tror jag att förutom de riktigt dåliga mottagare (som säkert finns, bara det att jag inte känner till någon) tror jag det är alldeles för många och komplexa faktorer som avgör hur bra fixar man får, så jag betecknar det i allt väsentligt som slump nuförtiden. Vad jag däremot vet är att jag tycker två spårloggar är bättre än en. Om du inte har köpt en dosa än så föreslår jag att du ser till att den du skaffar kan logga till internt minne (men gärna kan tömmas och hanteras av din telefon), så att du kan få ut två spårloggar från samma tur. /Pontus ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[Talk-lv] veel osm statistika
http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com shis tas ir sameeraa interesanti (augshaa ir kategorijas un bultinjas pie grafikiem maina laika periodu). interesanti, ka shis domaa, ka latvijaa ir 7 daliibnieki tikai ;) -- Rich ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
[Talk-lv] latvija neietilpst vienaa garmin kartee
apsveicu - latvijas dati nupat ir kljuvushi pietiekami lieli, lai vairs neietilptu vienaa garmina kartes regjionaa ;) -- Rich ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-lv] latvija neietilpst vienaa garmin kartee
Man tas jau bija kādu laiku, splitoju divos reģionos. Var jau gadīties, ka tas ir dēļ iekļauto objektu skaita. 2012/8/3 Rich ric...@nakts.net apsveicu - latvijas dati nupat ir kljuvushi pietiekami lieli, lai vairs neietilptu vienaa garmina kartes regjionaa ;) -- Rich __**_ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-lvhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv -- Jānis ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
[Talk-ca] CFB Borden and Meaford
While browsing the map I noticed that the CFBs Borden and Meaford show up on the standard Mapnik mak in very low zoom levels (z=6). http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.28lon=-80.06zoom=6layers=M The reason appears to be that they're tagged as place=city. According to the wiki this tag should be used [f]or the largest urban settlement or settlements within the territory, normally including the national, state and provincial capitals. Defined by charter or official designation in some territories and as a matter of judgement others. Should normally have a population of at least 100,000 people and be larger than nearby place=towns. I suspect that both places don't qualify for this. Can someone with local knowledge please suggest the appropriate tag for these two places? Harald. -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x199DC50F ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CFB Borden and Meaford
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: While browsing the map I noticed that the CFBs Borden and Meaford show up on the standard Mapnik mak in very low zoom levels (z=6). http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.28lon=-80.06zoom=6layers=M The reason appears to be that they're tagged as place=city. That sounds wrong. landuse=military name=Canadian Forces Base Borden or similar would be correct and should provide no surprises for data consumers. :-) adding those to a perimeter, even if it is an imperfect perimeter, would be a good start. I see that both of those have military areas already. I've deleted the errant city nodes and I'll send a note to the mapper who created them. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] SOTM US Portland - Call for participation
Do you have a story or project to share at State Of The Map US, Portland Oct 13-14? Now is the time to submit your abstract! ... See you all in Portland! One assumes you mean the new Portland Oregon not old Portland Maine. (Is it too much to expect OSM'ers of all people to realize there are more than one Portland USA? I've rather given up on normals and non-geo-geek geeks, but mappers ...) -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-cz] import budov
Postup - rozdělit podle katastrů, velké katastry klidně ještě na pár částí a ty pak postupně ručně importovat je určitě lepší, než hromadný import. Když budou data někde k dispozici + stránka na wiki, za pár měsíců uživatelé naimportují své okolí a pak se ukáže, co zbývá a uvidí se, co s tím zbytkem. JD Dne 2. srpna 2012 20:14 Michal Pustějovský michal.pustejov...@seznam.cz napsal(a): Dne 2.8.2012 13:19, jzvc napsal(a): Ja vam tady do toho lehce vstoupim - moje predstava, jak by to mohlo docela pekne fungovat = upravit soucasny tracer plugin, a to tak, ze nebude trasovat z bitmapy, ale veme vektor/body. = zdroj zi zobrazim jako podklad, a pokud klipnu do budovy, tak ji to bafne a vlozi do aktivniho layeru. Melo by to samo mit funkci merge = pokud chci slucovat, melo by jit nastavit zda poloha bude stavajici nebo ze zdroje + to drapne vsechny stavajici tagy + to samo prida IDcko ze zdroje a omarkuje pokud je poloha z OSM (aby se to v pripade zmeny ve zdroji nemenilo). Tohle by melo fungovat tak, ze klipnu (vyberu) dva objekty stejnyho typu a on je automaticky podle danych pravidel slouci. Zjistovani rozdilu = vemu objekty danyho typu v danym boxu a podivam se, zda mam v OSM vsechny objekty danyho typu s danym ID. Ty co tam nejsou vyrenderuju jako rozdil. Dale u tech co tam jsou overim, zda maji stejne souradnice (a pripadne dalsi parametry) jako ve zdroji (pokud ne = rozdil), pripadne zda sou oznaceny (= v RUIAN je blbost). Pokud to bude v podobe podkladu (trebas vrstva toho WMS generovanyho z RUIAN), tak se da velmi snadno a rychle najit kde co chybi. Melo by to mit nejakou moznost zpetne prohlasit ze v RUIAN je blbost, a takovej objekt by se neresil, dokud nebude v RUIAN zmenen (pripadne by to mohla byt dalsi vrstva). Ad adresni body - me osobne se nelibi, protoze jak uz sem psal vejs, pokud ma budova definovany vchody, da se navigovat ke vchodu i z jiny ulice nez te, kde ma adresu. Pokud je tam bod, tak kazda navigace povede do ulice, kam ta adresa patri. Dovedu si to predstavit prave pro oznaceni mist, kde z nejakyho duvodu budova neni, neni tam digitalini km, ... protoze tam budovy neni moc jak vykreslit. V takovym pripade bych si asi doved predstavit, ze (v ramci upraveneho pluginu) vyberu trebas nejaky box a prohlasim ze do nej chci vlozit vsechny adresni body ze zdroje. S matchovanim to asi bude vselijaky, neb sem svyho casu podobny veci delal, uspesnost asi nepreleze 80 - 85%. Ale opet, lze renederovat nejaky rozdil, a postupne se to da dokupy. Hlavne musi byt nekde videt co kde chybi. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz Dobrý nápad, jenže pokud budu chtít zmapovat budovy v celém městě/vesnici, kde zatím vůbec žádné nejsou, bude to stále ještě hodně pracné. Nebylo by pro tyto případy lepší provést tento import podobně jako import UIR-ZSJ? Pomocí skriptu by se vytvořil .osm soubor obsahující budovy z RÚIAN z daného katastru. Otevřel by se v JOSM jako nová vrstva. Tato vrstva by se porovnala s jinými zdroji a nesrovnalosti by se ručně opravily. Soubor by se uložil a dalším skriptem (který by doplnil source=ruian apod.) poslal do databáze OSM. O programování toho ale moc nevím, takže možná navrhuju něco, co není prakticky proveditelné. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz -- -- Ing. Jan Dudík ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] import budov
Ooops, myšleno sedmikoeficientová (prostě těch 7 toWGS čísel), občas se mi to plete. *** ja myslim ze zaklade uvedenho textu je zrejme, ze chyba 20 metru nemuze nastat. To je pak chyba nekde jinde. h. hanoj Druhy transformací podle přesnosti (WGS84/ERTS89-S-JTSK) 2D: *100-110 metrů na severozápad - základní sedmiprvková transformace bez transformačního klíče; nepoužívá se * 1 metr - základní navíc s parametry transformačního klíče towgs; viz níže globální transformační klíč pro ČR/SR * 0,1 metr - pomocí gridu (ČR); zvláštní článek ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] import budov
Postup - rozdělit podle katastrů, velké katastry klidně ještě na pár částí a ty pak postupně ručně importovat je určitě lepší, než hromadný import. *** napred rucne a pak import - zda se mi to jako komplikace pro cloveka pracujiciho s importem navic. Uz tak dost je to slozite a nevidim tam prinos toho jednotlivce. Uz z koordinace UIR-ADR je zrejme ze samotna domluva je slozita: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Adres_%C4%8CR Když budou data někde k dispozici + stránka na wiki, za pár měsíců uživatelé naimportují své okolí a pak se ukáže, co zbývá a uvidí se, co s tím zbytkem. *** kolik si z tech 13 000 k.u. beres? ;) Uzivatelske zpracovani UIR-ADR bylo po okresech a dosud neni kompletni... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Adres_%C4%8CR ha hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] import budov
Ahoj, ja jsem pro co nejvetsi automatizaci. Predstavoval bych si to jako plugin do JOSM, ktery pro zadanou oblast zobrazi tri typy zmen: 1) trivialni zmeny - v ruian je neco navic nebo zmena u objektu z importu 2) podezrele zmeny - v ruian je zmena u objektu, ktery nekdo manualne upravil 3) potvrzene zmeny - ruian a osm se rozchazeji, ale nekdo uz oznacil osm verzi jako spravnejsi. Aplikace by mela mit moznost oznacit objekt z ruian jako neexistujici - pripadne mi to jako mensi zlo, nez mit v osm node, ktery by pouze rikal, ze tahle budova uz nestoji a v ruianu je to spatne. Az by se to trosku vyzkouselo, tak by trivialni zmeny mohl delat bot sam. Akorat bych tam nechal moznost oznacit oblast, o kterou se stara primo nektery uzivatel. Tim by se zajistilo, ze do dobre zmapovanych a kontrolovanych oblasti ruian nezavlece nejakou chybu, ktere by si nikdo nevsimnul. -- jirka 2012/8/3 hanoj eha...@gmail.com: Postup - rozdělit podle katastrů, velké katastry klidně ještě na pár částí a ty pak postupně ručně importovat je určitě lepší, než hromadný import. *** napred rucne a pak import - zda se mi to jako komplikace pro cloveka pracujiciho s importem navic. Uz tak dost je to slozite a nevidim tam prinos toho jednotlivce. Uz z koordinace UIR-ADR je zrejme ze samotna domluva je slozita: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Adres_%C4%8CR Když budou data někde k dispozici + stránka na wiki, za pár měsíců uživatelé naimportují své okolí a pak se ukáže, co zbývá a uvidí se, co s tím zbytkem. *** kolik si z tech 13 000 k.u. beres? ;) Uzivatelske zpracovani UIR-ADR bylo po okresech a dosud neni kompletni... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Adres_%C4%8CR ha hanoj ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Happy birthday OSM party ?
Salut Christian, Pour répondre à l'hypothèse pas trop nombreux, on pourrait inscrire nos noms quelque part ? Je ferai un effort pour être présent cette fois-ci, où que ça se passe (la dernière fois le boulot m'a retenu). Teuxe - Mail original - De: Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr À: Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé: Vendredi 3 Août 2012 00:56:13 Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Happy birthday OSM party ? Si on n'est pas trop nombreux, ça vous dirait un barbecue dans mon jardin ? Accès facile: RER A Le Parc de Saint-Maur Ca changerai du plan bière + diner dans un bar parisien -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] CHRCH data logger longue autonomie
Dans les appareils à piles, je recommande l'utilisation des piles rechargeables nimh 2700. Avec ça et un etrex, vous devriez tenir longtemps. J'ai un GPSMAP 62S et je tiens 10 à quinze heures selon la température. S'il fait froid, pensez à prendre des piles lithium -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/CHRCH-data-logger-longue-autonomie-tp5719383p5719480.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Happy birthday OSM party ?
je plussoie fortement ! Le 3 août 2012 00:56, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Si on n'est pas trop nombreux, ça vous dirait un barbecue dans mon jardin ? Accès facile: RER A Le Parc de Saint-Maur Ca changerai du plan bière + diner dans un bar parisien -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* http://twitter.com/overflorian http://www.nouslesgeeks.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Happy birthday OSM party ?
Pas de problème, mais comme indiqué, ça mérite un petit sondage. Et une liste de chose que l'on peut apporter afin de partager un peu les frais ! A+ Marc Le 3 août 2012 00:56, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Si on n'est pas trop nombreux, ça vous dirait un barbecue dans mon jardin ? Accès facile: RER A Le Parc de Saint-Maur Ca changerai du plan bière + diner dans un bar parisien -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie
merci, j'ai jeté un coup d'oeil à ce modèle mais il ne convient pas. J'ai vraiment besoin de pouvoir uploader mon trajet directement depuis un cyber café. Je ne pré-suppose pas la configuration de l'ordinateur et la seule solution universelle est la clé usb ... Et si je veux que ça soit rapide à uploader et à partager, le fichier gpx est l'idéal. Le 2 août 2012 19:37, f.dos.san...@free.fr a écrit : Le m241 fonctionnant a pile ca peut etre un bon choix. Sous linux j'utilise mtkbabel qui s'occupe des datalogger a base de chipset mtk. J'ai un iBlue747+, 24h d'autonomie mais c'est une batterie, peut etre qu'avec un chargeur solaire usb ... Le soucis pour un cyber cafe c'est que ce n'est pas une simple cle usb. - Mail d'origine - De: Cedric Viou cedricdumezv...@gmail.com À: Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:47:49 +0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] CHRCH data logger longue autonomie Bonjour, J'utilise un m-241: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Holux_M-241 Seul bémol pour le moment, je suis pas arrivé à faire fonctionner BT747 sur ma machine (linux) pour exporter les traces. Ça vient peut être de moi et je n'ai pas cherché bien longtemps... Je lance l'appli Windows fournie dans une machine virtuelle. 65$ en ce moment. Correspond à tes critères (sauf peut être le étanche à la pluie ;) ) Bon voyage! Cedric Le 02/08/2012 15:35, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : Salut, Je pars en vacances en Amérique du sud et aimerai en profiter pour mapper le coin ^^. étant donné que je vais faire de le randonnée pendant plusieurs jours, je pense que la seule solution -question d'autonomie- est d'*acheter un petit data logger* pour synchroniser par la suite les photos que je prendrais. J'ai regardé tous les treads qui parlent du sujet sur la ML (notamment http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2011-June/033374.html), le comparatif sur le wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Reviews, le forum de GPS passion http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=127 et maintenant je suis complètement perdu ! Voici mon cahier des charges : - autonomie très élevée : au moins 10 heures, 20h ou plus serait l'idéal - alimentation obligatoirement avec piles (je passerai plusieurs jours sans prise électrique) - enregistrement de la date et l'heure pour synchroniser les photos - export au format GPX (existe-t-il des modèles où il n'y a qu'à copier-coller un .gpx ? Je veux le faire dans des cyber-cafés de l'autre coté du Monde donc il faut que ça soit aussi universel qu'une clé usb !) - robuste et étanche à la pluie - une précision de 10m suffirait - une mémoire adaptée pour tracer suffisamment de points (plusieurs dizaines de milliers) - budget grand max 200€, 100€ = mieux Et éventuellement en bonus : - un écran qui donne la position GPS (petit écran monochrome : l'autonomie est prioritaire) - possibilité de régler la fréquence d'enregistrement (un relevé seulement toutes les 30 sec me permettrait d'économiser de l'énergie) - pas de câble à trimbaler pour faire la synchro : si les données sont sur une carte SD, c'est top Voici les modèles sur lesquels je suis tombé mais aucun ne me satisfait pleinement : - http://www.gadgetselectroniques.com/Recepteur-GPS-DataLogger-cbGabaGsa.asp - http://www.opticienonline.com/bushnell-backtrack-d-tour.html?gclid=CIqg_5_UyLECFSsntAodbxsAOw - http://www.semsons.com/amaggpsdalos.html - http://www.semsons.com/wiwpeashdalo.html - sur les conseils http://www.starway.org/blogs/Photographie/2008/10/un-phototrackr-a-la-ceinture/ d'un photographe : http://www.semsons.com/giphli.html Help ! Merci d'avance pour vos conseils -- *Florian Lainez* http://twitter.com/overflorian http://www.nouslesgeeks.fr http://www.nouslesgeeks.fr/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- *Florian Lainez* http://twitter.com/overflorian http://www.nouslesgeeks.fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie
Le 2 août 2012 18:00, THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr a écrit : je pense que c est au cas ou tu aies besoin de transferer tes traces dans un cybercafe ou tu n as pas les droits ou le temps pour installer GPSbabel. Tout à fait. Et je ne veux pas les retravailler plus tard : je veux les partager directement. Le 3 août 2012 09:55, partir-en-vtt ad...@partir-en-vtt.com a écrit : Dans les appareils à piles, je recommande l'utilisation des piles rechargeables nimh 2700. Avec ça et un etrex, vous devriez tenir longtemps. S'il fait froid, pensez à prendre des piles lithium bien noté, je vais me pencher vers le lithium, merci du conseil. Du coup le choix du GPS est bien plus ardu que prévu. Je me laisserai bien tenter par le Garmin eTrex 20, vu qu'il a une bonne autonomie apparemment. Mais je regarde encore les data-loggers. Que pensez-vous de ces modèles ? - GiSTEQ PhotoTrackr Lite http://www.semsons.com/giphli.html - Wintec WPL-1000LX Easy Showily http://www.semsons.com/wiwpeashdalo.html Sinon je regarde aussi ces modèles ... http://www.clubic.com/comparer-prix/gps/tracker,1536-245130/ Bref, je me sens pas vraiment plus avancé qu'au début :( merci de votre aide Le 3 août 2012 11:05, Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr a écrit : merci, j'ai jeté un coup d'oeil à ce modèle mais il ne convient pas. J'ai vraiment besoin de pouvoir uploader mon trajet directement depuis un cyber café. Je ne pré-suppose pas la configuration de l'ordinateur et la seule solution universelle est la clé usb ... Et si je veux que ça soit rapide à uploader et à partager, le fichier gpx est l'idéal. Le 2 août 2012 19:37, f.dos.san...@free.fr a écrit : Le m241 fonctionnant a pile ca peut etre un bon choix. Sous linux j'utilise mtkbabel qui s'occupe des datalogger a base de chipset mtk. J'ai un iBlue747+, 24h d'autonomie mais c'est une batterie, peut etre qu'avec un chargeur solaire usb ... Le soucis pour un cyber cafe c'est que ce n'est pas une simple cle usb. - Mail d'origine - De: Cedric Viou cedricdumezv...@gmail.com À: Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:47:49 +0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] CHRCH data logger longue autonomie Bonjour, J'utilise un m-241: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Holux_M-241 Seul bémol pour le moment, je suis pas arrivé à faire fonctionner BT747 sur ma machine (linux) pour exporter les traces. Ça vient peut être de moi et je n'ai pas cherché bien longtemps... Je lance l'appli Windows fournie dans une machine virtuelle. 65$ en ce moment. Correspond à tes critères (sauf peut être le étanche à la pluie ;) ) Bon voyage! Cedric Le 02/08/2012 15:35, Florian LAINEZ a écrit : Salut, Je pars en vacances en Amérique du sud et aimerai en profiter pour mapper le coin ^^. étant donné que je vais faire de le randonnée pendant plusieurs jours, je pense que la seule solution -question d'autonomie- est d'*acheter un petit data logger* pour synchroniser par la suite les photos que je prendrais. J'ai regardé tous les treads qui parlent du sujet sur la ML (notamment http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-fr/2011-June/033374.html), le comparatif sur le wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Reviews, le forum de GPS passion http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=127 et maintenant je suis complètement perdu ! Voici mon cahier des charges : - autonomie très élevée : au moins 10 heures, 20h ou plus serait l'idéal - alimentation obligatoirement avec piles (je passerai plusieurs jours sans prise électrique) - enregistrement de la date et l'heure pour synchroniser les photos - export au format GPX (existe-t-il des modèles où il n'y a qu'à copier-coller un .gpx ? Je veux le faire dans des cyber-cafés de l'autre coté du Monde donc il faut que ça soit aussi universel qu'une clé usb !) - robuste et étanche à la pluie - une précision de 10m suffirait - une mémoire adaptée pour tracer suffisamment de points (plusieurs dizaines de milliers) - budget grand max 200€, 100€ = mieux Et éventuellement en bonus : - un écran qui donne la position GPS (petit écran monochrome : l'autonomie est prioritaire) - possibilité de régler la fréquence d'enregistrement (un relevé seulement toutes les 30 sec me permettrait d'économiser de l'énergie) - pas de câble à trimbaler pour faire la synchro : si les données sont sur une carte SD, c'est top Voici les modèles sur lesquels je suis tombé mais aucun ne me satisfait pleinement : - http://www.gadgetselectroniques.com/Recepteur-GPS-DataLogger-cbGabaGsa.asp - http://www.opticienonline.com/bushnell-backtrack-d-tour.html?gclid=CIqg_5_UyLECFSsntAodbxsAOw - http://www.semsons.com/amaggpsdalos.html - http://www.semsons.com/wiwpeashdalo.html - sur les conseils http://www.starway.org/blogs/Photographie/2008/10/un-phototrackr-a-la-ceinture/ d'un photographe :
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie
Je ne crois pas avoir vu celui là dans les potentiels : http://global.mobileaction.com/product/product_i-gotU_GT-600.jsp Il a l'air d'avoir tous les criteres mais je n'ai vu si il sauvait les fichiers en GPX ou en format propio. Je te laisse fouiller si jamais tu l'avais pas dans ta liste Eric ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie
De : Florian LAINEZ winner...@free.fr Question bete, est ce que tu as pense a regarder ici ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Reviews Julien ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie
Il semble avoir besoin d'un soft specifique pour le download : https://launchpad.net/igotu2gpx/ - Mail d'origine - De: Eric eric...@sfr.fr À: Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:27:09 +0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie Je ne crois pas avoir vu celui là dans les potentiels : http://global.mobileaction.com/product/product_i-gotU_GT-600.jsp Il a l'air d'avoir tous les criteres mais je n'ai vu si il sauvait les fichiers en GPX ou en format propio. Je te laisse fouiller si jamais tu l'avais pas dans ta liste Eric ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
Bonjour, Normalement il faut étiquetter le highway limité avec la clef maxspeed http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maxspeed du moins la ou il y a pas de limitation par défaut. Cordialement. 2012/8/3 Victor Grousset tux...@gmail.com: Je n'ai pas trouvé sur le wiki, en anglais ou en français la manière de tagguer ces panneaux, je pense que je devrait leur mettre la valeur numérique de la limite par défaut, par exemple 50 en ville. Qu'en pensez vous? tuxayo ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
On peut aussi mapper les panneaux au bord de la route, ici on voit comment mapper le panneau de début de limitation de vitesse mais pas celui de fin. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Road_signs_in_France Le 3 août 2012 18:05, Tetsuo Shima tets...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Normalement il faut étiquetter le highway limité avec la clef maxspeed http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maxspeed du moins la ou il y a pas de limitation par défaut. Cordialement. 2012/8/3 Victor Grousset tux...@gmail.com: Je n'ai pas trouvé sur le wiki, en anglais ou en français la manière de tagguer ces panneaux, je pense que je devrait leur mettre la valeur numérique de la limite par défaut, par exemple 50 en ville. Qu'en pensez vous? tuxayo ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
Ce ne sont pas les panneaux qu'il faut mapper en tant que tel, mais les portions de route où la limitation s'applique (comme on indique le nom des rues sur les ways et pas là où il y a des plaques). Donc couper le way en début et fin de limitation et mettre un tag maxspeed sur la portion de way où la vitesse est limitée. La partie après un panneau de fin de limitation se retrouve en limite par défaut qu'il n'est pas indispensable de tagguer si cela correspond à la valeur par défaut pour le type de highway en question: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed#France et que l'on retrouve dans cette relation defaults: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/934933 Pour ma part le seul cas où je met un maxspeed sur un noeud c'est pour les ralentisseurs ponctuels. Voir aussi: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maxspeed -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
Mon ami Victor et moi cherchons à mapper les panneaux, en plus de la route. 2012/8/3 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr Ce ne sont pas les panneaux qu'il faut mapper en tant que tel, mais les portions de route où la limitation s'applique (comme on indique le nom des rues sur les ways et pas là où il y a des plaques). Donc couper le way en début et fin de limitation et mettre un tag maxspeed sur la portion de way où la vitesse est limitée. La partie après un panneau de fin de limitation se retrouve en limite par défaut qu'il n'est pas indispensable de tagguer si cela correspond à la valeur par défaut pour le type de highway en question: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Maxspeed#France et que l'on retrouve dans cette relation defaults: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/934933 Pour ma part le seul cas où je met un maxspeed sur un noeud c'est pour les ralentisseurs ponctuels. Voir aussi: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maxspeed -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Rép : Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
Début du message réexpédié : De : Francois-Xavier Lamure Tardieu xapit...@yahoo.fr Date : 3 août 2012 19:25:43 HAEC À : tux...@gmail.com, talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Objet : Rép : [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer? Tu peux regarder cette page : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_the_United_Kingdom. Sinon je mets à coté de la voie les panneaux de signalisation en plus de des attributs directement sur la voie, est-ce utile ? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
Le 3 août 2012 18:25, Victor Grousset tux...@gmail.com a écrit : On peut aussi mapper les panneaux au bord de la route, ici on voit comment mapper le panneau de début de limitation de vitesse mais pas celui de fin. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Road_signs_in_France À moins d'avoir raté un passage, la page du wiki à laquelle tu fais référence explique comment reporter *sur un way* la limite de vitesse, mais ne propose pas de tag pour le panneau lui-même, et en toute logique elle ne propose donc pas non plus de tag pour le panneau de fin de limitation. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
C'est plutot par ici pour le panneau en eux meme http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_sign 2012/8/3 Matthias Dietrich eiger@gmail.com: Le 3 août 2012 18:25, Victor Grousset tux...@gmail.com a écrit : On peut aussi mapper les panneaux au bord de la route, ici on voit comment mapper le panneau de début de limitation de vitesse mais pas celui de fin. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Road_signs_in_France À moins d'avoir raté un passage, la page du wiki à laquelle tu fais référence explique comment reporter *sur un way* la limite de vitesse, mais ne propose pas de tag pour le panneau lui-même, et en toute logique elle ne propose donc pas non plus de tag pour le panneau de fin de limitation. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie
oui, ou alors il y a le GT-800 (que je possède), qui peut être utilisé avec ce programme non officiel, u-gotme : http://u-gotme.deepocean.net/ Il a plein de choses compatibles avec le cahier des charges de Florent ... et d'autres qui ne le sont clairement pas. Mais je l'aime bien ;-) Le 3 août 2012 17:22, f.dos.san...@free.fr a écrit : Il semble avoir besoin d'un soft specifique pour le download : https://launchpad.net/igotu2gpx/ - Mail d'origine - De: Eric eric...@sfr.fr À: Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:27:09 +0200 (CEST) Objet: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Re : Re: CHRCH data logger longue autonomie Je ne crois pas avoir vu celui là dans les potentiels : http://global.mobileaction.com/product/product_i-gotU_GT-600.jsp Il a l'air d'avoir tous les criteres mais je n'ai vu si il sauvait les fichiers en GPX ou en format propio. Je te laisse fouiller si jamais tu l'avais pas dans ta liste Eric ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- ab_fab http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ab_fab Il n'y a pas de pas perdus ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Panneaux de fin de limitation de vitesse: Comment les tagguer?
En effet, je me suis trompé de lien; voila celui qui parle des panneaux: Sinon je viens de trouver cette page qui que pour une fin de limite il faudrait tagger sur le panneaumaxspeed=default http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Speed_limit Mais je vois dans tag info que en france c'est utilisé seulement 4 fois (dont deux fois par Eric Gillet) http://taginfo.openstreetmap.fr/keys/maxspeed#values Le 3 août 2012 20:08, Tetsuo Shima tets...@gmail.com a écrit : C'est plutot par ici pour le panneau en eux meme http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_sign 2012/8/3 Matthias Dietrich eiger@gmail.com: Le 3 août 2012 18:25, Victor Grousset tux...@gmail.com a écrit : On peut aussi mapper les panneaux au bord de la route, ici on voit comment mapper le panneau de début de limitation de vitesse mais pas celui de fin. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Road_signs_in_France À moins d'avoir raté un passage, la page du wiki à laquelle tu fais référence explique comment reporter *sur un way* la limite de vitesse, mais ne propose pas de tag pour le panneau lui-même, et en toute logique elle ne propose donc pas non plus de tag pour le panneau de fin de limitation. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Réf.: Re: Happy birthday OSM party ?
Grand jardin ? -- Le ven. 3 août 2012 10:01 HAEC, Marc SIBERT a écrit : Pas de problème, mais comme indiqué, ça mérite un petit sondage. Et une liste de chose que l'on peut apporter afin de partager un peu les frais ! A+ Marc Le 3 août 2012 00:56, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Si on n'est pas trop nombreux, ça vous dirait un barbecue dans mon jardin ? Accès facile: RER A Le Parc de Saint-Maur Ca changerai du plan bière + diner dans un bar parisien -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-ja] 月間OSMJサマリー 2012/7月号(Vol.3)
主に日本でのOSMに関わるあらゆる動きをひと月分まとめてお知らせします。 ― 【コミュニティ】 ― ◆7/5 ビルの高さの測り方(3Dマッピング用) https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=vpid=sitessrcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxoYXlhc2hpeXV1fGd4OmQzN2E1YTBjNTIwNTJmZg http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006511.html ◆7/5 トータルステーションによる位置情報の取得について http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006512.html ◆7/7 みんなで作る日田・中津被害状況マップ https://hitanakatsu2012.crowdmap.com/main ◆7/8 Keep Right 日本語化のよびかけ https://translations.launchpad.net/keepright/trunk/+pots/keepright/ja/+translate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_Right http://keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=14lat=35.68051lon=139.76404 ◆7/10 ライセンス改訂(非互換データ削除)の開始予告 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006539.html ◆7/10 第3回OpenStreetMap勉強会 in JUSO http://juso-coworking.com/news/event/1899.html ◆7/11 簡易POI登録サイトYAPIS http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006548.html ◆7/13 みんなで作る竹田災害支援マップ https://taketa2012.crowdmap.com/ ◆7/14 OpenStreetMapインドアマッピング勉強会 in 西麻布 http://atnd.org/event/mapconcierge201207 ◆7/14 OpenStreetMap ワークショップ in 名古屋 #2 http://atnd.org/events/30538 ◆7/14 オープンソースカンファレンス2012 SendaiにOSM出展します! http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006554.html ◆7/14 ライセンス切り替え進捗マップ http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006562.html ◆7/22 横浜関内マッピングパーティー (ビル高さ計測マッピング) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Yokohama_mapping_party_20120722 ◆7/22 リマッピング用タスクマネージャ http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006587.html ◆7/25 Yahoo/Alps道路データのインポートについて http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006601.html ◆7/25 OpenSeaMap in Japan日本の灯台データ整備にご協力を! http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006602.html ◆7/26 オルソ画像サーバ停止 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ja/2012-July/006603.html ◆7/27 OpenStreetMap セミナー(プラットフォーム研究会セミナー) http://www.facebook.com/events/262734297175063/ ◆7/28 OpenStreetMap ワークショップ in 名古屋 #3 http://atnd.org/events/30915 ― 【調査・研究】 ― ― 【OSMF/OSMFJからのお知らせ】 ― ◆7/26 自動改訂が完了しました http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/07/26/%E8%87%AA%E5%8B%95%E6%94%B9%E8%A8%82%E3%81%8C%E5%AE%8C%E4%BA%86%E3%81%97%E3%81%BE%E3%81%97%E3%81%9F/?lang=ja ◆7/29 オープンデータのライセンス:ODbLの背景と内容 - 勉強会開催のお知らせ http://www.osmf.jp/news/odbl_study ― 【イベント案内】 ― ◆8/3(金)・4(土)オープンソースカンファレンス2012 Kansai@Kyoto OSMより参加予定 http://www.ospn.jp/osc2012-kyoto/ ◆8/11(土) OSM北陸勉強会 福井での開催となります http://atnd.org/events/31239 ◆8/11(土) 日本Androidの会 浜松支部 第16回ミーティング 午後にOSMの紹介、ハンズオンが予定されています http://atnd.org/events/31129 ― 【報道・ブログ・その他】 ― ◆7/2 OpenStreetMap ワークショップ in 名古屋 #1 CENTRAL MIXER http://ounziw.com/2012/07/02/openstreetmap-central-mixer/ ◆7/2 OpenStreetMap用Androidクライアント http://d.ma-aya.to/?date=20120702 ◆OpenStreetMapをパワフルに使いこなす- Yahoo! Open Local Platform http://olp.yahoo.co.jp/map2 ◆7/4 FOSS4Gとお隣さん http://www.slideshare.net/sayno/foss4gopenstreetmap ◆7/7 「information=guidepost」タグ日本語ページ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Tag:information%3Dguidepost ◆7/12 オープンストリートマップの活動とわが国における整備状況 http://www.slideshare.net/mapconcierge/20120712-openstreetmap ◆7/23 Titanium mobileでgoogle mapの代わりにopen mapを使えますか? http://qa.atmarkit.co.jp/q/2295 ◆7/23 OpenStreetMapワークショップ in 名古屋 の資料 http://tomg3x.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/openstreetmap%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%83%E3%83%97-in-%E5%90%8D%E5%8F%A4%E5%B1%8B-%E3%81%AE%E8%B3%87%E6%96%99/ ◆7/23 OpenStreetMapキャンパスマップコンテスト http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:CampusMap_Contest_2012 ◆7/25 OpenStreetMapの品質チェックサイトを探してみた https://tomg3x.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/openstreetmap%E3%81%AE%E5%93%81%E8%B3%AA%E3%83%81%E3%82%A7%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B5%E3%82%A4%E3%83%88%E3%82%92%E6%8E%A2%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6%E3%81%BF%E3%81%9F/ ◆7/26 OpenStreetMap http://ajiblog.sblo.jp/article/57237897.html ◆7/27 OpenStreetMap http://jmsnews.blog38.fc2.com/blog-entry-34.html ◆7/27 OpenStreetMapセミナー 名古屋(あいちベンチャーハウス)まとめ http://jmsnews.blog38.fc2.com/blog-category-9.html ◆7/28 OpenStreetMapワークショップ in 名古屋#3 OpenStreetMapセミナーの資料 http://tomg3x.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/openstreetmap%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%83%E3%83%97-in-%E5%90%8D%E5%8F%A4%E5%B1%8B3-openstreetmap%E3%82%BB%E3%83%9F%E3%83%8A%E3%83%BC%E3%81%AE%E8%B3%87%E6%96%99/ ― 日本でのOSMに関わるニュースなどを募集しています。 osmj.news(at)osmf.jp までお知らせください。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[Talk-GB] Worcestershire Public Rights of Way - OGL
Hi All, I am happy to confirm that I have received confirmation that the PRoW data held at [1] is available under the OGL licence. This data is the digitised Definitive Map, and is provided as a WMS map service. This can be viewed online (through [1] or [2]), alternatively it can be opened in QGIS, or similar. Direct imports into OSM are not advised as most of the paths are already mapped. This data should therefore be used as a cross-reference and for confirming path types. Worcestershire have got one of the better GIS services and initial contact with their GIS Programme Coordinator seemed positive. Note: This follows the earlier approval to use the Definitive Statements held by Worcestershire CC. Regards, Rob [1] http://data.gov.uk/dataset/public-rights-of-way/ [2] http://gis.worcestershire.gov.uk/WccGISOnline/maps.aspx ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Use of place=town
Is it me, or have people been a bit over-enthusiastic with the use of place=town in parts of north London? I'd have thought town should be more restricted to definite centres, with place=suburb quite sufficient for the rest? Market towns used to have a rule that they only got a charter if they were 6 miles from the nearest existing town, and that sort of spacing (or close to it) would have a fair degree of logic. A selective cull may be in order. Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Use of place=town
Sorry; meant to include a permalink: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.58lon=-0.122zoom=11layers=M On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: Is it me, or have people been a bit over-enthusiastic with the use of place=town in parts of north London? I'd have thought town should be more restricted to definite centres, with place=suburb quite sufficient for the rest? Market towns used to have a rule that they only got a charter if they were 6 miles from the nearest existing town, and that sort of spacing (or close to it) would have a fair degree of logic. A selective cull may be in order. Richard ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-us] Tags for Emergency Interstate
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_route#Emergency_detour_routes Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detour#Permanent_detours ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] SOTM US Portland - Call for participation
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: That's pretty pedantic, when most people assume Oregon by default given that it's the largest city on the planet with that name. Damn straight it's pedantic. And parochial. They're both proud traditions here in old New England. I accept that remembering that Portland might be ambiguous to some ignorable percentage of the population that will be disappointed and embarrassed at being fooled once again when it's of course not our Portland that some wonderful event is coming to is just too much to expect from the cool kids spinning off other events in hometown of OSCON. But I think it's fair to expect it of self-appointed geo-encyclopedists. But I was a bit harsh to complain on it to Martijn, who being a recent transplant may reasonably have assumed the big Portland USA was named for Portland UK. Sorry Martijn. (Good luck with the Springfields as even the Simpsons can't keep them straight.) -- Bill @n1vux bill.n1...@gmail.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] SOTM US Portland - Call for participation
Martijn van Exel wrote: Thanks for clarifying that, Bill. Yes, it is Portland, Ore. After a year in the US, I know where most of the 50 states are, but I am still learning about the various Portlands, Springfields, Manchesters etc. Please bear with me as I assimilate. For me, it's Springfield, Illinois, as I am an Arizonan by birth, Illinoisan at heart, and Texan by residence. But most importantly an Illinoisan. And Manchester is the home of my favorite football club, the Red Devils. ;) And at least you have an excuse for not knowing where the states are. My brother, who has lived in the US for his entire life, doesn't even know where Nebraska is. I don't know how he passed 7th grade. Alexander ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us