Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 55, Issue 1
hi manning, the inclusion of the health facilities here in davao is approximately 90% complete. i mapped those facilities and still will include that in my future areas that i will visit. im with the local government of davao and i did inform doh ro xi about the uses of gps but fell on deaf ears... and also with the local tourism office. sam From: talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: talk-ph Digest, Vol 55, Issue 1 Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to talk-ph@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ph-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of talk-ph digest... Today's Topics: 1. Possible collaboration with OSM and DOH to locate health facilities (maning sambale) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 19:02:36 +0800 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org, Steeve Ebener steeve.ebe...@gaia-geosystems.org, Mark Anthonie Bello markhaven...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Possible collaboration with OSM and DOH to locate health facilities Message-ID: CAPzumuG5HojMkuqHQw+53d8zPA0FPoCBsDup1VWjOTUwX=y...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear everyone, I had a meeting with Department of Health (DOH) IMS division on the possibility of collaborating with the OSM-PH community. No clear plans yet on the collaboration but I would like to put forward the discussions in this list. = Overview = Basically, DOH intends to improve their database for the location of health facilities in the country. They will use the data on several information management of the Department. At the moment, they have several database developed in various projects. Each db uses a different system but one thing they lack is a uniform geographic identifier. An example of the db is available in the Unified Health Management Information System portal [0]. This online portal lists ~21,000 health facilities all over the country. At the moment they were able to geocode ~4,000 locations [2] (~20%). = What they need from OSM = A couple of ideas that were discussed are: - Verify the location of the 4,000 geocoded facilities in the existing OSM data. Right now, there isn't any clear evaluation on the accuracy of the locations (a process of Q/A is now being developed). Some facilities are actually in Sulu Sea! Check out the southern part of Negros island [2]. - Fill in the gaps. the IMS division have limited funds to individually verify and take GPS readings of each facility. OSM data can possibly fill in the gaps. Using the Overpass turbo [3], I was able to check that we have ~1,100 amenity=hospital ways and nodes. Note that some maybe duplicates and I have not included other health facilities like barangay health centers (tagged as amenity=clinic clinic=public [4]). - Ask the community to map more health facilities. The only additional tag they want included is the Health Facility Code (an alphanumeric code similar to NSCB's PSGC [5]). This code will allow them to link the OSM geometry into their health facility db. - Train DOH staff to edit OSM. - Build some easy to use tools to collect data in the field. = Pending issues = As with most government data, they are available only on a non-commercial use. Specifically, the DOH generated locations. For the other information in the online db, they are OK with public access without restrictions. This will be in conflict with OSM's ODbL. A workaround discussed was to separate the DOH db with OSM's data points. No public db will be distributed that integrates both data sources. Is this in compliance with the ODbL? If not, what are other ways in which we can use OSM data in relation to DOH's plans. Everything I've listed are open to discussions. I included here two people from DOH to keep them aware of the discussions. (@ Steeve and Mark, please subscribe to our mailinglist [6] to keep track of the discussions) Regardless of what DOH intends to do, I encourage everyone to include health facilities in your own list of things to map. Thanks! --- [0] http://uhmis1.doh.gov.ph/UnifiedHMIS/ [1] http://uhmis1.doh.gov.ph/doh_facility/rfacilitieslist.php?cmd=resetall [2] http://maps.doh.gov.ph/facilities.html [3] http://overpass-turbo.eu/ [4] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001872.html [5] http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/default.asp [6] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning
[talk-ph] Cebu health facilities
Hello I am new to this group. I am currently personlly surveying health facilities in the Cebu, Mandaue and Consolacion area of Cebu Province for my own needs. I am a newbie at adding points to the database. I have come across some of the following different types of places both public and private: 1. Doctor offices 2. Dental offices 3. Optometrists 4. Private clinics with and without emergency facilities 5. Public clinics with and without emergency facilities 6. Hospitals 7. Treatment centers 8. Birthing Centers 9. Diagnostic test centers 10. Health care training facilities and schools I am sure this is not an exhaustive list. What I need to know is how should each be identified on the map. What codes should I use to enter each one. I have only been using the simplest methods so far but I think it is important to differentiate to help the user find what they need. I would like to discuss this with someone very knowledgeable in this area before starting to enter the data. Please contact me here. Marion Singleton aka Bossfish___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Turn restrictions map
i could really use this. my favorite things to add are these restrictions to correct routing errors and oh, my nuvi was lost and now found after 6 months of just lying there good thing i'm not impulsive. im just playing with my cherry mobile flare and various adroid gps apps :) --- I explore, therefore I blog! http://www.backpackingphilippines.com On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, It's not enough to have a pretty looking map. The underlying data is also important especially for routing. So to help increase the quality of the data, there's a new map created by an OSM user in Germany. This map shows all of the turn restrictions (ex., no left turns, no U-turns) data in OSM: http://map.comlu.com/?zoom=17lat=14.55459lon=121.02085layer=Mapquest%20Open This is not the first such map, but this is certainly more responsive and informative than the other turn restriction map I've seen before. It also shows if there are errors in the turn restrictions. And you can also use it to see if there are any missing ones. Happy mapping! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk-be] Cartographie Wallonie
Hi, For several years, people and myself have asked without reply C/artographie/ Wallonie http://www.google.be/url?sa=trct=jq=cartographie+walloniesource=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CDIQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcartographie.wallonie.be%2Fei=7OwLUdOgEIOt0QXRm4CIAgusg=AFQjCNHsqIR2rsLmaZ9P2wi3G5NbLXIMpg to confirm that they open our servers to be used for OSM, especially PICC data of paramount importance (1). Feesnone/FeesAccessConstraintsnone/AccessConstraints in their WMS server. I once read that one person finally got an answer: they are not against such usage but they have no time to make and publish an official decision. Am I remembering right that last year this subject was raised on this list and that it was said that a decision could be made by the end of 2012? Is there any news about that? Cheers, André. (1) the PICC data has defects (e.g. missing 50m of way length) and it's some way to improve it to copy it to OSM with corrections. PICC data seems to be vector format behind the tiles. Could it be translated to OSM format to be used as material to make updates? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Re : Cartographie Wallonie
Hi, We must have new contacts with spw this month. I was planning to send them an email... Tomorrow! Julien Fastre Envoyé depuis mon téléphone A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi, For several years, people and myself have asked without reply C/artographie/ Wallonie http://www.google.be/url?sa=trct=jq=cartographie+walloniesource=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CDIQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcartographie.wallonie.be%2Fei=7OwLUdOgEIOt0QXRm4CIAgusg=AFQjCNHsqIR2rsLmaZ9P2wi3G5NbLXIMpg to confirm that they open our servers to be used for OSM, especially PICC data of paramount importance (1). Feesnone/FeesAccessConstraintsnone/AccessConstraints in their WMS server. I once read that one person finally got an answer: they are not against such usage but they have no time to make and publish an official decision. Am I remembering right that last year this subject was raised on this list and that it was said that a decision could be made by the end of 2012? Is there any news about that? Cheers, André. (1) the PICC data has defects (e.g. missing 50m of way length) and it's some way to improve it to copy it to OSM with corrections. PICC data seems to be vector format behind the tiles. Could it be translated to OSM format to be used as material to make updates? ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file
I went to the openstreetmap.org site, and the largest jpg I can export is around 2000x2000 I was wondering whether there exists a software where I can give it the .osm file(downloaded from a service like cloudmade), and then create very big files like 8000x8000 in size? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file
Have a look at Bigmap: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bigmap It allows to collect tiles and make a large image of them. 2013/2/1 Tanveer Singh tanveer1...@gmail.com I went to the openstreetmap.org site, and the largest jpg I can export is around 2000x2000 I was wondering whether there exists a software where I can give it the .osm file(downloaded from a service like cloudmade), and then create very big files like 8000x8000 in size? -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Which renderer for high quality, printed cycle map?
2013/1/31 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Hi all, We'd like to produce a high quality bike map, to be printed. I'm looking at the various renderers and wondering if anyone has a recommendation? I don't have a recommendation for particular renderer, but if you'd like to get inspiration for the actual style, we (Prague by bike bicycle advocacy group) have created a mapnik based style for online cycle map [1]. It shows different surface type (e.g. squared texture for cobblestones), cycle route relations are displayed with varying line style depending on the surface quality (solid vs. dashed) and lighter colour for primary highways and darker for tertiary highways or separated cycleways. The map legend [2] is in Czech only but Google translate deals with it ok. The style itself is available on Github [3] Vaclav [1] http://mapa.prahounakole.cz [2] http://prahounakole.cz/kudy-po-praze/mapa/legenda/ [3] https://github.com/auto-mat/rendering-PNK-ZM/tree/master/Devel/mapnik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Which renderer for high quality, printed cycle map?
On 01/02/2013 14:56, Václav Řehák wrote: We (Prague by bike bicycle advocacy group) have created a mapnik based style for online cycle map [1]. It shows different surface type (e.g. squared texture for cobblestones) [..] http://mapa.prahounakole.cz Nice and useful use of texturing - I like it a lot, especially as a roller-skater : no other map style I know makes the dreaded cobblestones so discreetly obvious. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données
Bonjour, Je suis étudiante en master 2 SIG et Télédétection et j'aimerais contribuer à OSM dans ma région au nord du Cameroun en faisant ressortir de cela un projet de fin d'étude. Concernant les sources de données je me pose des questions et j'aimerais avoir plus d'infos: - l'utilisation des images Bing disponibles dans OSM ont un atout pédagogique, j'aimerais donc savoir si ces images ont étés géoréférenceés ou orthorectifiées? -Concernant les GPS, j'ai un Garmin etrex 10, la ville que j'aimerais cartographier ne possède pas trop d'immeuble et quand il y'en a c'est maximum 3 niveaux. quel type de précision je pourrais avoir dans ce cas? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données
On 01/02/2013 15:55, Abba Asmaou wrote: - l'utilisation des images Bing disponibles dans OSM ont un atout pédagogique, j'aimerais donc savoir si ces images ont étés géoréférenceés ou orthorectifiées? Oui, mais pas formidablement bien - suffisamment bien pour l'écrasante majorité des usages OSM, mais ne pas les prendre pour argent comptant en particulier dans les zones escarpées. -Concernant les GPS, j'ai un Garmin etrex 10, la ville que j'aimerais cartographier ne possède pas trop d'immeuble et quand il y'en a c'est maximum 3 niveaux. quel type de précision je pourrais avoir dans ce cas? Le meilleur moyen de le savoir est de tester en utilisant un point de référence réputé précis - un repère géodésique par exemple. Apparemment le Cameroun est en train de se doter d'un nouveau réseau géodésique - mais j'ignore son statut. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données
De : Abba Asmaou asmamou@gmail.com Hi Abba, I think that your message should be sent to French mailing list ( talk...@openstreetmap.org ) The subscription page is here : http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr Cheers Julien___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Dear OSM Contributors As you may have noticed we have removed all links displaying the Google geocoding service from the wiki. These changes are a consequence of a legal issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, USA. There are likely to be further related edits and changes both on the wiki and the help site. Please do not add such removed links back or undo any such edits. If you find use of the term geocode on our wiki or help site please replace it with a generic term (for example search), or report it to my e-mail address. Both the use of the term geocode and the use of the Google API are merely incidental to us. Doing without them does not in any way impact the core goals or operation of OSM. Please address any questions on the matter to me by e-mail and not to the list. Thank you Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Well, geocoding and search are different things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocoding I don't think use of the English language is merely incidental to what we are doing here. Can you explain why we suddenly can't use words from the English language any more? And no, I don't think this is something for private emails. Jochen On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:22:24PM +0100, Simon Poole wrote: Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 16:22:24 +0100 From: Simon Poole si...@osmfoundation.org To: openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue Dear OSM Contributors As you may have noticed we have removed all links displaying the Google geocoding service from the wiki. These changes are a consequence of a legal issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, USA. There are likely to be further related edits and changes both on the wiki and the help site. Please do not add such removed links back or undo any such edits. If you find use of the term geocode on our wiki or help site please replace it with a generic term (for example search), or report it to my e-mail address. Both the use of the term geocode and the use of the Google API are merely incidental to us. Doing without them does not in any way impact the core goals or operation of OSM. Please address any questions on the matter to me by e-mail and not to the list. Thank you Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 01.02.13 16:48, Jochen Topf wrote: I don't think use of the English language is merely incidental to what we are doing here. Can you explain why we suddenly can't use words from the English language any more? ... And no, I don't think this is something for private emails. 100% agreed. Simon, please be more elaborative on what's going on here. Without knowing US trademark policies by heart, but to geocode is a generic term that cannot be used as a trademark. One can of course use this term with regard to, e.g., the process of transferring a postal address into geographic coordinates. /al ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 01/02/2013 16:22, Simon Poole wrote: the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. If you find use of the term geocode on our wiki or help site please replace it with a generic term (for example search) Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of the English language ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of the English language ? Because we have bigger battles to fight. Let Google piss their money away on defending the term geocode. If OSM has $1m to spend, which it doesn't, I'd rather it spent it on making the site easier to use and attracting more mappers, rather than throwing lawyers at a trademark troll. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Recent-edits-in-the-wiki-Trademark-issue-tp5747591p5747607.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Plugging google geocode trademark issue and several variations of it in three different search engines didn't give any meaningful results. So unless you can explain to us why a foundation in the UK with servers in the UK should be bothered by a trademark conflict between two other parties on the other side of the Atlantic I'm going to ignore the request not to use the word geocode. On 02/01/2013 05:06 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: On 01.02.13 16:48, Jochen Topf wrote: I don't think use of the English language is merely incidental to what we are doing here. Can you explain why we suddenly can't use words from the English language any more? ... And no, I don't think this is something for private emails. 100% agreed. Simon, please be more elaborative on what's going on here. Without knowing US trademark policies by heart, but to geocode is a generic term that cannot be used as a trademark. One can of course use this term with regard to, e.g., the process of transferring a postal address into geographic coordinates. -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Should we distinguish between the service and the usage of the name geocode? It seems that the term geocode was first used in the fourtheen century and comes from old french. Google trademark? See http://www.memidex.com/geocode Pierre De : Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 1 février 2013 11h14 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of the English language ? Because we have bigger battles to fight. Let Google piss their money away on defending the term geocode. If OSM has $1m to spend, which it doesn't, I'd rather it spent it on making the site easier to use and attracting more mappers, rather than throwing lawyers at a trademark troll. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Recent-edits-in-the-wiki-Trademark-issue-tp5747591p5747607.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 01/02/2013 16:26, Pierre Béland wrote: It seems that the term geocode was first used in the fourtheen century and comes from old french. Google trademark? See http://www.memidex.com/geocode I think you'll find that's the word 'code', not 'geocode'. -- Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
If you search for geocode in the EU trademark database[1], then you'll find that the trademark was refused last year, with no possibility for appeal. [1]http://oami.europa.eu/CTMOnline/RequestManager/en_SearchBasic -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 08:14:23AM -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of the English language ? Because we have bigger battles to fight. Let Google piss their money away on defending the term geocode. If OSM has $1m to spend, which it doesn't, I'd rather it spent it on making the site easier to use and attracting more mappers, rather than throwing lawyers at a trademark troll. There is no way to get rid of bullies but to stand up to them. That was right in kindergarden and it is right in the real world. Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
@andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO http://weait.com/content/trade-mark Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be able to do so very simply. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Now, I'm going mapping. :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Huh? What's really touchy is the osmf being secretive about something. If you got a letter from some lawyer, then the only way you might get all the volunteers in this project to comply is telling them what is happening. Original Message Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:43:42 +0100 From: Simon Poole si...@poole.ch To: carti...@xs4all.nl Cartinus The location of both servers and organisation is irrelevant (as you should know after something like 20 years of case law wrt providing services over the Internet), relevant is that it could be construed that the term was used by us (in a wide sense of the word) in the US and that the trademark holder objects to such usage. Richard Fairhurst has said the rest. Please do not post this answer to the list, the issue is extremely touchy. Simon Am 01.02.2013 17:16, schrieb Cartinus: Plugging google geocode trademark issue and several variations of it in three different search engines didn't give any meaningful results. So unless you can explain to us why a foundation in the UK with servers in the UK should be bothered by a trademark conflict between two other parties on the other side of the Atlantic I'm going to ignore the request not to use the word geocode. On 02/01/2013 05:06 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: On 01.02.13 16:48, Jochen Topf wrote: I don't think use of the English language is merely incidental to what we are doing here. Can you explain why we suddenly can't use words from the English language any more? ... And no, I don't think this is something for private emails. 100% agreed. Simon, please be more elaborative on what's going on here. Without knowing US trademark policies by heart, but to geocode is a generic term that cannot be used as a trademark. One can of course use this term with regard to, e.g., the process of transferring a postal address into geographic coordinates. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 01/02/2013 16:52, Cartinus wrote: Huh? What's really touchy is the osmf being secretive about something. If you got a letter from some lawyer, then the only way you might get all the volunteers in this project to comply is telling them what is happening. Original Message Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:43:42 +0100 From: Simon Poole si...@poole.ch To: carti...@xs4all.nl Cartinus The location of both servers and organisation is irrelevant (as you should know after something like 20 years of case law wrt providing services over the Internet), relevant is that it could be construed that the term was used by us (in a wide sense of the word) in the US and that the trademark holder objects to such usage. Richard Fairhurst has said the rest. Please do not post this answer to the list, the issue is extremely touchy. Simon Am 01.02.2013 17:16, schrieb Cartinus: Plugging google geocode trademark issue and several variations of it in three different search engines didn't give any meaningful results. So unless you can explain to us why a foundation in the UK with servers in the UK should be bothered by a trademark conflict between two other parties on the other side of the Atlantic I'm going to ignore the request not to use the word geocode. On 02/01/2013 05:06 PM, Andreas Labres wrote: On 01.02.13 16:48, Jochen Topf wrote: I don't think use of the English language is merely incidental to what we are doing here. Can you explain why we suddenly can't use words from the English language any more? ... And no, I don't think this is something for private emails. 100% agreed. Simon, please be more elaborative on what's going on here. Without knowing US trademark policies by heart, but to geocode is a generic term that cannot be used as a trademark. One can of course use this term with regard to, e.g., the process of transferring a postal address into geographic coordinates. My opinion? All this is irrelevant and OSM is fine to continue using geocode. IANAL but I do work in a sector concerned with intellectual property and EU law; based on extensive prior art and extensive genericised usage of the word geocode any trademark of the word or phrase geo code or geocode is without merit and unenforceable. OSM's usage is itself a great example. The USPTO has issued TMs and patents in the past that have been subsequently revoked or dismissed... And a US TM registration doesn't apply in Europe, OHIM has to issue a US TM reg. It's something we're actively involved with at work at the moment (contesting a registration and disputing a request for registration in other categories on a mark which we already have registered). Checking the USPTO's TESS system just now, one registration is GEOCODE GLOBAL which is a service mark; one registration by Winfield Solutions is in the published for opposition stage so it's not been granted yet. It's for Turf Seed (Plant growth micronutrients) so doesn't and cannot apply to any usage in a geospatial context. GEOCODE GLOBAL's service mark's current registration is: Goods and ServicesIC 042. US 100 101. G S: brokerage services for use in generating geographic information displays, namely, brokerage in the field of geographical information related to maps and cartography. FIRST USE: 20020503. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20020503 Its original registration GS classification was IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G S: Computer software for computing and identifying an exact location and time by creating a numeric geospatial coordinate measurement representation used in the field of geospatial analysis. FIRST USE: 19990726. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 2726 That they've not contested concurrent usage of the word geocode in other contexts for over a decade establishes precedent that any future attempts are likely unenforceable due to them not adequately protecting the registration. Even if they wanted to pick a fight, it would quite possibly be laughed out of court. In any matter, the plaintiff would have to come to the UK and contest the matter in an English court though! Where we would very politely show them the door, after they'd paid costs of course. ;-) tl;dr: OSMF is fine! Just carry on as before. Any letters from lawyers are just scaremongering, although I'd like to see them if any exist. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/02/13 17:49, Richard Weait wrote: @andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO http://weait.com/content/trade-mark Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be able to do so very simply. Oh, come on: Get up, stand up... and I shot the sheriff come to my mind. I always hear money. Is that really all that counts. Let us fight and win and not behave like the octopuses want us to. This would be much better publicity than we can get by connecting our social community with main stream social media. Colliar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEAREIAAYFAlEL+EoACgkQalWTFLzqsCuRsQCfbqBiqDNk3LB8412/D2YjA7m4 4CsAmwVoYlF8N3fjQYqg2S1GYXmSsjCY =8bV/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file
If any of the available tile set styles are suitable, simply download the tiles, at the desired zoom level, for your area of interest, stitch together with a tool such as gdalmerge, outputting to a jpg, and print. Best, On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.frwrote: Have a look at Bigmap: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bigmap It allows to collect tiles and make a large image of them. 2013/2/1 Tanveer Singh tanveer1...@gmail.com I went to the openstreetmap.org site, and the largest jpg I can export is around 2000x2000 I was wondering whether there exists a software where I can give it the .osm file(downloaded from a service like cloudmade), and then create very big files like 8000x8000 in size? -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John Novak 585-OLD-TOPOS (585-653-8676) http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnanovak/ OSM ID:oldtopos OSM Heat Map: http://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?oldtopos OSM Edit Stats:http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?oldtopos ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 01/02/13 17:49, Richard Weait wrote: @andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO http://weait.com/content/trade-mark Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be able to do so very simply. Oh, come on: Get up, stand up... and I shot the sheriff come to my mind. I always hear money. Is that really all that counts. Let us fight and win and not behave like the octopuses want us to. +1 This would be much better publicity than we can get by connecting our social community with main stream social media. +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file If any of the available tile set styles are suitable, simply download the tiles, at the desired zoom level, for your area of interest, stitch together with a tool such as gdalmerge, outputting to a jpg, and print. This is also possible with the GUI program Viking (http://sourceforge.net/projects/viking). Once you have downloaded map tiles for the area, use the File-Generate Image File option. ATM This is restricted to 5000x5000, although in the next version the limits are substantially increased**. HTH. ** Disclaimer - this is because I (re)wrote it. Be Seeing You - Rob. If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Hi. Regardless of that trademark business, I've checked Simon's edits and they mostly consist of removing links to google maps, which contain empty geocode parameter and them (and many other redundant parameters that editors didn't bother to omit). Some of the edits are quite funny, for example, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Essex_Waydiff=prevoldid=861689 (removed a link to display kml with google maps). I cannot understand why links to google maps have become prohibited in our wiki, but there are probably one or two meaningful edits and lots of what can be called vandalism. For example, cleaning Copyright Easter Eggs pages from links to mentioned easter eggs. So, I vote for 1) reverting all those edits; 2) explaining in detail what is prohibited (what words, which links etc.) and what is not; 3) editing wiki more thoroughly, so every edit could be understood. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Team - The OSMF BoD is doing the job for which its members were elected. Thank goodness. There's a trademark. We've been served notice (I believe). The board has made a decision. The chairman of the board (probably a (tm) term...) has communicated this decision. Fine, disagree, but please disagree with a plan for how to fund your alternate plan, describing in detail the source of new funds or what other OSMF activities should be de-funded to support this plan. Yes, it sounds silly to trademark geocode, yes, it's a US-only thing, but these issues are solved in courts, with real money for real lawyers, not well-reasoned arguments on email threads supported by personal moral and ethical constructs and not law. Personally, I'm glad the OSMF BoD is taking care of this so I don't have to. As Mr. W said, I'd rather be mapping... - Jeff On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.comwrote: On 01/02/13 17:49, Richard Weait wrote: @andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO http://weait.com/content/trade-mark Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be able to do so very simply. Oh, come on: Get up, stand up... and I shot the sheriff come to my mind. I always hear money. Is that really all that counts. Let us fight and win and not behave like the octopuses want us to. +1 This would be much better publicity than we can get by connecting our social community with main stream social media. +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Jeff Meyer Global World History Atlas www.gwhat.org j...@gwhat.org 206-676-2347 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer osm: Historical OSMhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historical_OSM / my OSM user page http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer t: @GWHAThistory https://twitter.com/GWHAThistory f: GWHAThistory https://www.facebook.com/GWHAThistory ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
2013/2/1 Simon Poole si...@osmfoundation.org: issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, USA. There are likely to be further related edits and changes both on the wiki and the help site. Please do not add such removed links back or undo any such edits. If you find use of the term “geocode” on our wiki or help site please replace it with a generic term (for example search), or report it to my e-mail address. What about replacing it with the German term geokode ? I fully support what been written by colliar and joto. What comes next? Corporation inc. registering a trademark for mapping party, mapper or crowd-sourced? cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 01/02/2013 18:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/2/1 Simon Poole si...@osmfoundation.org: issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, USA. There are likely to be further related edits and changes both on the wiki and the help site. Please do not add such removed links back or undo any such edits. If you find use of the term “geocode” on our wiki or help site please replace it with a generic term (for example search), or report it to my e-mail address. What about replacing it with the German term geokode ? I fully support what been written by colliar and joto. What comes next? Corporation inc. registering a trademark for mapping party, mapper or crowd-sourced? cheers, Martin IMHO if they are arguing solely upon basis of the word then Geocode's lawyer's argument is specious. To that end, they're just trademark trolling in a retcon attempt to show defence of a trade mark they shouldn't arguably have been granted in the first place. On what grounds do they issue the CD against OSMF? Has it been detailed anywhere? I'm very curious about the contents of the issued CD if one exists and I'd very much like to see the notice. (Happy to discuss by email with relevant people off-list). ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Am 01.02.2013 19:06, schrieb Jeff Meyer: Yes, it sounds silly to trademark geocode, yes, it's a US-only thing, but these issues are solved in courts, with real money for real lawyers, not well-reasoned arguments on email threads supported by personal moral and ethical constructs and not law. I fully agree - this is not about argument or logic but about laws. Unfortunately also about US laws where things easily get really, really expensive. Those large cooperations tend settle these things for millions simply because legal action is unpredictable in it's outcome and even more expensive. Yes, I would like the story to end with David winning against Goliath. But I there's quite some risk that this could end up more like Achilles' story... Personally, I'm glad the OSMF BoD is taking care of this so I don't have to. As Mr. W said, I'd rather be mapping... Yes, let's use our manpower for mapping, not for fighting possibly invalid trademarks. Michael ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 02/01/2013 07:06 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: We've been served notice (I believe). O really, we've been officially served? Then that should not be a secret is it? Please put whatever communication the OSMF received in a place we can see. So we know what is actually forbidden. Stop treating the volunteers as mushrooms. As Ilya just pointed out, the edits to the wiki look really weird. With the tiny bit of information we have been given, it actually looks as if Simon removed too much. -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Because of the time constraints the removal of the google links is quite rough, however most (as in all except a handful) of the links were either old, outdated, or/and unused, as for example essentially all links to old errors in Google maps based on TeleAtlas data, which should have been deleted years ago. Naturally you can add back sanitized links, however I would in general question why we would want to use google data in our own documentation in the first place (that is naturally a different discussion). As for the rest Jeff Meyer has summarized it nicely. Simon Am 01.02.2013 18:57, schrieb Ilya Zverev: Hi. Regardless of that trademark business, I've checked Simon's edits and they mostly consist of removing links to google maps, which contain empty geocode parameter and them (and many other redundant parameters that editors didn't bother to omit). Some of the edits are quite funny, for example, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Essex_Waydiff=prevoldid=861689 (removed a link to display kml with google maps). I cannot understand why links to google maps have become prohibited in our wiki, but there are probably one or two meaningful edits and lots of what can be called vandalism. For example, cleaning Copyright Easter Eggs pages from links to mentioned easter eggs. So, I vote for 1) reverting all those edits; 2) explaining in detail what is prohibited (what words, which links etc.) and what is not; 3) editing wiki more thoroughly, so every edit could be understood. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
It's here : https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/19wLhnezowHBio9zGaJkNaCbDX-gmWNHUSdx1kdQJYY0/edit - Mail original - From: Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl To: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: 01/02/2013 19:32:44 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue O really, we've been officially served? Then that should not be a secret is it? Please put whatever communication the OSMF received in a place we can see. So we know what is actually forbidden. Stop treating the volunteers as mushrooms. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Hi. Since no one has explained, I'd quote a part from OSMF Board Meeting Minutes: OSMF received C+D letter from someone who trademarked the word “Geocode(TM)” and asks us to remove all references to this from our web site where it is connected in some way with Google services. Simon is in contact with a lawyer about this. We might actually remove the few occurrences because they are not essential to us. So, you can still use geocode as a word. But you cannot, as it seems, use it in relation with Google services. That is, no geocode using google and such. That's why some links to Google Maps were removed. I don't know about Nominatim, especially MapQuest's Nominatim, but to be on a safe side, better use search. And if you don't mention any services, you can use that word freely, as in now having parsed coordinates, do the reverse geocoding to aquire their human-readable locations. After all, the wikipedia page for Geocoding doesn't mention any trademarks (although it has Google Maps as its first reference). IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
f.dos.san...@free.fr wrote: It's here : https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/19wLhnezowHBio9zGaJkNaCbDX-gmWNHUSdx1kdQJYY0/edit - Mail original - From: Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl To: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: 01/02/2013 19:32:44 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue O really, we've been officially served? Then that should not be a secret is it? Please put whatever communication the OSMF received in a place we can see. So we know what is actually forbidden. Stop treating the volunteers as mushrooms. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk You did not give a link to the actual cease-and-desist letter, as requested; you only gave a link to minutes stating that such a letter had been received. So, ordinary rank-and-file mappers still haven't been told the details of what is forbidden. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Christopher Woods (IWD) wrote: My opinion? All this is irrelevant and OSM is fine to continue using geocode. IANAL but I do work in a sector concerned with intellectual property and EU law; based on extensive prior art and extensive genericised usage of the word geocode any trademark of the word or phrase geo code or geocode is without merit and unenforceable. OSM's usage is itself a great example. Since the trademark has been refused in Europe the only response required is a referral to the European listing for trade mark '1131057'. I don't see that there is any need to be involve in any other discussion? Certainly there is nothing that needs money spending on it ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 1 February 2013 19:06, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: The OSMF BoD is doing the job for which its members were elected. Thank goodness. There's a trademark. We've been served notice (I believe). The board has made a decision. The chairman of the board (probably a (tm) term...) has communicated this decision. Fine, disagree, but please disagree with a plan for how to fund your alternate plan, describing in detail the source of new funds or what other OSMF activities should be de-funded to support this plan. I agree with what you're saying although I can't help thinking that if the OSMF can't take the risk of having some things in the wiki, the solution, for everyone's benefit, is to move the wiki to a server that's not paid for by the OSMF. I'm positive finding such a server wouldn't be difficult (in fact the home page says it is hosted at UCL ByteMark -- so if the OSMF is neither hosting nor writing the content, should it accept the C+D? The admins *are* OSMF members, but they're not OSMF). The OSMF has at some point started assuming responsibility for what is being published in the database and now on the wiki. In the case of the database it makes sense for someone to give some level of warranty that the data in it in fact is legally usable, although the consequences of this step have had a terrible effect on the map and the community so far. Yes, it sounds silly to trademark geocode, yes, it's a US-only thing, but these issues are solved in courts, with real money for real lawyers, not well-reasoned arguments on email threads supported by personal moral and ethical constructs and not law. You know, anything someone will say, who is not the judge, is just a well reasoned argument (or not that well reasoned) and the law will have a final word. Doesn't mean that someone pointing out that the law makes it unlikely for the owner of the GEOCODE trademark to sue a company in UK, or for it to be costly to resolve, shouldn't be listened to. Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
If there were no BoD, but OSM were still a true crowd driven organization, there would not have been a place to address this notice Put up a tree and you are sure to catch wind ! Geert Van: Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org] Verzonden: vrijdag 1 februari 2013 19:07 Aan: Manfred A. Reiter CC: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue Team - The OSMF BoD is doing the job for which its members were elected. Thank goodness. There's a trademark. We've been served notice (I believe). The board has made a decision. The chairman of the board (probably a (tm) term...) has communicated this decision. Fine, disagree, but please disagree with a plan for how to fund your alternate plan, describing in detail the source of new funds or what other OSMF activities should be de-funded to support this plan. Yes, it sounds silly to trademark geocode, yes, it's a US-only thing, but these issues are solved in courts, with real money for real lawyers, not well-reasoned arguments on email threads supported by personal moral and ethical constructs and not law. Personally, I'm glad the OSMF BoD is taking care of this so I don't have to. As Mr. W said, I'd rather be mapping... - Jeff On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/02/13 17:49, Richard Weait wrote: @andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO http://weait.com/content/trade-mark Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be able to do so very simply. Oh, come on: Get up, stand up... and I shot the sheriff come to my mind. I always hear money. Is that really all that counts. Let us fight and win and not behave like the octopuses want us to. +1 This would be much better publicity than we can get by connecting our social community with main stream social media. +1 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Jeff Meyer Global World History Atlas www.gwhat.org j...@gwhat.org 206-676-2347 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer osm: Historical OSM http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historical_OSM / my OSM user page http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jeffmeyer t: @GWHAThistory https://twitter.com/GWHAThistory f: GWHAThistory https://www.facebook.com/GWHAThistory ~WRD000.jpg___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
On 02/01/2013 08:54 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 1 February 2013 19:06, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org mailto:j...@gwhat.org wrote: Fine, disagree, but please disagree with a plan for how to fund your alternate plan, describing in detail the source of new funds or what other OSMF activities should be de-funded to support this plan. I agree with what you're saying although I can't help thinking that if the OSMF can't take the risk of having some things in the wiki, the solution, for everyone's benefit, is to move the wiki to a server that's not paid for by the OSMF. I'm positive finding such a server wouldn't be difficult (in fact the home page says it is hosted at UCL ByteMark -- so if the OSMF is neither hosting nor writing the content, should it accept the C+D? The admins *are* OSMF members, but they're not OSMF). Bad idea because a link to the OSMF can still be established. But it reminds me of an obvious response - let's streisand them ! I have no relationship to the OSMF in any way and I volunteer to mirror the wiki with the infringing words - read-only since I have limited processing power on my host. Does anyone have an archive of the latest infringing version ? Let's produce a mirroring kit and spread it far and wide ! The verb 'to geocode' is generic English language word and I'll stand by that even if a US court decides otherwise. Silly fight ? Yes - I have absolutely no skill whatsoever in choosing my battles ! Good thing I'm not a US citizen. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
You mentioned cleaning up the Wiki and the Help QA site. What about mailing list archives? Will the OSMF then start deleting emails if they contain Google Maps links? On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Because of the time constraints the removal of the google links is quite rough, however most (as in all except a handful) of the links were either old, outdated, or/and unused, as for example essentially all links to old errors in Google maps based on TeleAtlas data, which should have been deleted years ago. Naturally you can add back sanitized links, however I would in general question why we would want to use google data in our own documentation in the first place (that is naturally a different discussion). As for the rest Jeff Meyer has summarized it nicely. Simon Am 01.02.2013 18:57, schrieb Ilya Zverev: Hi. Regardless of that trademark business, I've checked Simon's edits and they mostly consist of removing links to google maps, which contain empty geocode parameter and them (and many other redundant parameters that editors didn't bother to omit). Some of the edits are quite funny, for example, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Essex_Waydiff=prevoldid=861689(removed a link to display kml with google maps). I cannot understand why links to google maps have become prohibited in our wiki, but there are probably one or two meaningful edits and lots of what can be called vandalism. For example, cleaning Copyright Easter Eggs pages from links to mentioned easter eggs. So, I vote for 1) reverting all those edits; 2) explaining in detail what is prohibited (what words, which links etc.) and what is not; 3) editing wiki more thoroughly, so every edit could be understood. IZ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: What about mailing list archives? Will the OSMF then start deleting emails if they contain Google Maps links? I'd quite like the OSMF to start deleting e-mails that don't quote the previous message properly. ;) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Recent-edits-in-the-wiki-Trademark-issue-tp5747591p5747682.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] HOT Activations for humanitarian relief
Everybody remembers how the OSM community made the news in jan. 2010 with mapping for the Haiti Earthquake. Since then, the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) has continued collaboration with various humanitarian NGO's and UN agencies to support humanitarian organizations for various disasters and humanitarian relief. The recent military conflicts in Democratic Republic of Congo, Mali and Syria have created a very complex humanitarian situation. There are presently hundred of thousand of people displaced and new people are displaced regularly. It is also very dificult for NGO's to circulate on the territory. The logistic to respond to these humanitarian needs necessitates good base maps that are generally not available in these countries. Then, the OSM community is very sollicited to collaborate to map rapidly these areas since the commercial mappers neglect these areas. The HOT team recently activated humanitarian mapping support for these three countries at the request of the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs for Mali (UNOCHA) and humanitarian organizations. With this very particular situation, we thought of asking other OSM contributors to collaborate to mapping these countries. You can see the articles published on the HOT Blog to describe these activations. - http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2012-12-12_hot_pre_activation_south_and_north_kivu_democratic_republic_of_congo - http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-01-28_syria_activation - http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-02-01_Mali_Activation The OSM Tasking Manager facilitates the coordination of the various remote mappers. We invite the OSM community in general to help the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team respond rapidly to this situation. Below are links to Task Manager jobs for these three countries. - http://tasks.hotosm.org/#all/Congo - http://tasks.hotosm.org/#all/Mali - http://tasks.hotosm.org/#all/syria Other then base mapping of various areas, we are asked to geolocate various Basic Services Utilities (ie. Health facilities, Schools, Water points). This information is crucial for humanitarian organizations and we are looking for volunteers with local knowledge of these countries to help us on this topic. These mapping activities are lead by HOT members described below and coordination is generally done via the HOT distribution list http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot . - Democratic Republic of Congo : Pierre Béland with Claire Halleux has HOT contact in DR Congo - Mali : Pierre Béland and Frédéric Bonifas - Syria : Joseph Reeves - Support to these teams by Nicolas and Kate Chapman Please join us! Pierre Béland Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] HOT Activations for humanitarian relief
CORRECTION The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) offices for each country is involved and not only for Mali. Cut and paste is dangerous! Pierre ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-br] Turn restrictions, como fazer?
Quer fazer algo assim? http://osrm.at/2fu Em sexta-feira, 1 de fevereiro de 2013, Tymon Douglas escreveu: Estava editando um trevo em Pelotas, esse aqui: http://osm.org/go/M4zbh5W2v-- Percebi que ele está roteando pelo meio da estrada ao invés de ser pelos acessos da rótula, caso alguem queira entrar na Avenida Eliseu Maciel ( ao sul ) Rota que ele está gerando: http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=ptloc=-31.763650,-52.414230loc=-31.766700,-52.418800z=17center=-31.764890,-52.416716alt=0df=0re=0 Rota correta: http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=ptloc=-31.763650,-52.414230loc=-31.762690,-52.418050loc=-31.766700,-52.418800z=18center=-31.763759,-52.417542alt=0df=0re=0 Alguma idéia de como resolver isso? -- -- Rodrigo de Avila Analista de Desenvolvimento rodr...@avila.net.br • www.avila.net.br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Turn restrictions, como fazer?
O jeito mais fácil que conheço é utilizar o plugin de turn restrictions do JOSM para criar as restrições. Criar a restrição manualmente dá MUITO trabalho. Para instalar o plugin basta ir em Preferências, na parte de plugins, baixar a lista de plugins e marcá-lo para instalação. Veja os seguintes links: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:Relation:restriction https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM_Relations_and_Turn_Based_Restrictions 2013/2/1 Tymon Douglas tymondoug...@gmail.com Estava editando um trevo em Pelotas, esse aqui: http://osm.org/go/M4zbh5W2v-- Percebi que ele está roteando pelo meio da estrada ao invés de ser pelos acessos da rótula, caso alguem queira entrar na Avenida Eliseu Maciel ( ao sul ) Rota que ele está gerando: http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=ptloc=-31.763650,-52.414230loc=-31.766700,-52.418800z=17center=-31.764890,-52.416716alt=0df=0re=0 Rota correta: http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=ptloc=-31.763650,-52.414230loc=-31.762690,-52.418050loc=-31.766700,-52.418800z=18center=-31.763759,-52.417542alt=0df=0re=0 Alguma idéia de como resolver isso? ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Turn restrictions, como fazer?
Alguem poderia dar uma conferida no trevo que eu linkei no primeiro post para ver se está correto? Em 1 de fevereiro de 2013 13:12, Tymon Douglas tymondoug...@gmail.comescreveu: Exatamente, vou dar uma olhada no plugin do JOSM Em 1 de fevereiro de 2013 13:07, Rodrigo Avila rodr...@avila.net.brescreveu: Quer fazer algo assim? http://osrm.at/2fu Em sexta-feira, 1 de fevereiro de 2013, Tymon Douglas escreveu: Estava editando um trevo em Pelotas, esse aqui: http://osm.org/go/M4zbh5W2v-- Percebi que ele está roteando pelo meio da estrada ao invés de ser pelos acessos da rótula, caso alguem queira entrar na Avenida Eliseu Maciel ( ao sul ) Rota que ele está gerando: http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=ptloc=-31.763650,-52.414230loc=-31.766700,-52.418800z=17center=-31.764890,-52.416716alt=0df=0re=0 Rota correta: http://map.project-osrm.org/?hl=ptloc=-31.763650,-52.414230loc=-31.762690,-52.418050loc=-31.766700,-52.418800z=18center=-31.763759,-52.417542alt=0df=0re=0 Alguma idéia de como resolver isso? -- -- Rodrigo de Avila Analista de Desenvolvimento rodr...@avila.net.br • www.avila.net.br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Turn restrictions, como fazer?
2013/2/1 Tymon Douglas tymondoug...@gmail.com: Alguem poderia dar uma conferida no trevo que eu linkei no primeiro post para ver se está correto? Faltam alguns caminhos com sentido obrigatório (ou com restrições de retorno ou direção, dependendo de como criar as regras): http://i.imgur.com/r359uaA.png ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] doppelte Straßennamen in einer Gemeinde
On 01.02.2013 08:55, Peter Wendorff wrote: Also hier (Ostwestfalen-Lippe) weiß ich von mindestens einem Fall, in dem der Weg andersrum vor einigen Jahren gegangen wurde. Nachdem da die Häuser lange nach Baudatum durchnummeriert worden sind, haben sie dann doch Straßennamen und darin jeweils Nummern eingeführt, weil gerade Feuerwehr und Rettungsdienste immer mal wieder Schwierigkeiten hatten, ein Haus zu finden, das ja irgendwo im Ort liegen kann. Ich weiß allerdings nicht mehr, welches Kaff das genau war. in meinem Heimatdorf (OWL) war die Entwicklung so: Ursprüngliche Adresse Oldinghausen 7, nur Ortsname und Nummer (diese AFAICT nach Größe der Höfe vergeben, nach Alter/Baujahr kann ich aber auch nicht ausschließen) Irgendwann wollte dann wohl vermutlich die Post zwingend einen Straßennamen in der Adresse, also wurde aus Oldinghausen 7 Oldinghausen; Dorfstraße 7 Und im Rahmen der Eingemeindung in den 1970ern wurde daraus dann Enger; Oldinghauser Straße 30 wobei die Namensgleichheit von Dorf und Straße nur zufällig ist, an dieser liegen nur drei Grundstücke mit den eher willkürlichen Nummern 25, 30 und 35, der Rest des ursprünglichen Dorfes verteilt sich auf mindestens 5 andere Straßen ... Irgendwann in den 90ern wurde dann sogar noch ein Feldweg von Pödinghauser Straße in Pödinghauser Landweg umbenannt um Verwechslungen mit einer weiteren Pödinghauser Straße in der Nachbargemeinde auszuschließen. Beide zweigen mit ca. 2km Abstand von derselben Landesstraße ab und die zum Nachbardorf gehörende Straße ist die einzige für LKW freigegebene Strecke von der Landesstraße zu den Betrieben in unserem Dorf. Ich vermute mal das die Ursache für die Umbenennung war das mindestens ein LKW-Fahrer Wegbeschreibungen der Art raus aus $Stadt über die $Landesstraße und dann über die Pödinghauser Straße von hinten an $betrieb in $dorf ranfahren falsch interpretiert hat ohne sich zu wundern warum man ihn über einen grade3 track jagen will ... sowas gabs ja auch schon in vor-Navi Zeiten ... -- hartmut ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Edits von Nodekiller
On 18/01/13 19:00, fly wrote: On 13/01/13 16:48, malenki wrote: Zwar finde ich die Edits an sich nicht so prickelnd, aber nodekiller ist in meinen Augen ziemlich behutsam vorgegangen. Wohl der einzige Grund warum nicht sofort zurückgesetzt wurde. Ich habe mal eine PM an Nodekiller geschrieben, um Anwort auf meine Fragen zu bekommen. Leider habe ich noch keine Antwort erhalten. Immer noch keine Antwort. Auf talk@osm wird gerade über z19+ diskutiert. Ich habe weiterhin Probleme mit den Edits. Entweder ist das ein Account fürs Vereinfachen, dann sollte sowas vorher angekündigt und abgesprochen werden oder ein Newbie hat einfach mal angefangen zu löschen anstatt ersteinmal neue Sachen einzutragen. Beides finde ich nicht akzeptabel. Werde jetzt doch mal auch auf talk@osm posten und mache mich bereit zumindest die Zentralen Azoren zu revertieren. Habe leider keine Erfahrungen wie das mit anderen Tools außer JOSM + Reverter Plugin funktioniert und das Plugin ist im Moment etwas buggy. Kann mir jemand was anderes Empfehlen ? Grüße fly ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] doppelte Straßennamen in einer Gemeinde
Am 31.01.2013 21:32, schrieb Martin Trautmann: Dieses Problem findet sich in sehr vielen Gemeinden. Ich fand aber zum ersten Mal für BW die ausdrückliche Vorschrift, dass das nicht sein dürfe. Ich glaube, für Bayern gibt's das auch, kenne dafür aber noch keine Verordnung. Thüringen hat die selbe Vorschrift: http://landesrecht.thueringen.de/jportal/portal/t/1n0k/page/bsthueprod.psml?pid=Dokumentanzeigeshowdoccase=1js_peid=Trefferlistedocumentnumber=2numberofresults=176fromdoctodoc=yesdoc.id=jlr-KomOTH2003V6P5#focuspoint Das führte dazu, dass in Jena in einem Viertel durch nacheinanderfolgende Eingemeindungen zweimal die Straßen umbenannt wurden. Andererseits hat es die Auswirkung, dass einzelne Straßen nur geringfügig angepasst werden (Ilmenau: Ilmenauer Allee, Ilmenauer Fußweg, Ilmenauer Straße, Ilmenauer Weg) Natürlich alle wild verstreut, so dass sich schon so mancher verlaufen hat. Schönen Gruß Martin Schönes Wochenende, Andreas -- Andreas Neumann http://stadtplan-ilmenau.de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Edits von Nodekiller
Hallo, On 01.02.2013 17:27, fly wrote: Werde jetzt doch mal auch auf talk@osm posten und mache mich bereit zumindest die Zentralen Azoren zu revertieren. Ich kann das auch uebernehmen, aber ich moechte gern einen stichhaltigen Grund dafuer haben. Dass Nodekiller die Aktion nicht vorher diskutiert hat, ist nicht in Ordnung und hat ihm eine Verwarnung eingebracht und die eindringliche Bitte, sowas in Zukunft zu unterlassen. Wenn die Edits in den zentralen Azoren wirklich die Daten verschlechtert haben, dann koennen wir sie auch revertieren. Aber wir sollten nicht aus Prinzip revertieren (so nach dem Motto: Der hat aus dem 500-Node-Way 100 geloescht, das MUSS ja eine Verschlechterung bedeuten). Denn in dem Fall ist die Gefahr gross, dass man durch den Revert zahlreiche unnoetige Nodes wieder einfuehrt. Also - Revertieren aus Qualitaetsgruenden ist ok, Revertieren aus Prinzip ist eine Ausnahme, zu der wir nur bei besonders dreisten Faellen greifen. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Osmand e limitazioni di download
ma scusate non basta caricarle wia pc scaricandole da la e si risolve il problema Messaggio originale Da: tiziano.dang...@gmail.com Data: 31/01/2013 9.56 A: openstreetmap list - italianotalk-it@openstreetmap.org Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] Osmand e limitazioni di download Io uso la versione di sviluppo che si può scaricare qui: http://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/ C'è anche un file OsmAnd-default.apk, potrebbe essere la versione base senza limitazioni, mentre io uso OsmAnd-development.apk. ciao! 2013/1/31 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com Osmand per provarlo. Tuttavia la versione gratuita disponibile sul Play Store dice che posso fare al massimo 10 download. Cosa significa questo? Posso scaricare 10 volte i dati, e poi basta? Posso avere contemporaneamente 10 dataset e non di più? Osmand è un programma open source rilasciato sotto licenza GPLv3, quindi le limitazioni che hanno imposto sono facilmente aggirabili con poco sforzo come altri ti hanno indicato, ed è perfettamente legale farlo. Ciò non toglie che comprare la versione a pagamento aiuta il progetto (stiamo parlando di 6 euro), in sostanza è una via comoda per fare una donazione agli sviluppatori (che mi pare stiano facendo un ottimo lavoro). Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Errori in OSM
In Errori in OSM, sto correggendo *Nomi non conformi. *In pratica ho salvato il file GPX, come TXT. E poi selezionando le coordinate es: 42.609067 lon=12.5852438 (V.le Regina Margherita) le ho importate in JOSM , copia incolla in Salta la posizione e ingrandimento zero Accanto ad ogni correzione effettuata, metto ok. Forse il sistema è un po empirico, ma con il mio PC non posso visualizzare aree molto grandi, osm dice che l'area da caricare e troppo grande. *Se ci fossero delle imperfezioni nelle correzionimartellare prego:-) . *Buona giornata, Mario. ** ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Utilizzo del Suolo - Suggerimenti e critiche per le regole di conversione
2013/2/1 Giovanni Caudullo giovanni.caudu...@gmail.com: Che i prati vengano arati e riseminati non vuol dire che si cambi destinazione d'uso. comunque landuse non è la destinazione d'uso, è l'uso effettivo, quale nella realtà può essere tutt'altro che la destinazione d'uso. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Errori in OSM
Il 01 febbraio 2013 11:51, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: con il mio PC non posso visualizzare aree molto grandi, osm dice che l'area da caricare e troppo grande. lo dice prima di tutto per proteggere il server da richieste troppo impegnative, poi è molto probabile che non riusciresti a visualizzarli puoi installare e attivare il plugin Remote Control in JOSM, come ti ha suggerito Martin, perché ci sono diversi servizi che lo supportano direttamente così non devi passare dal copia e incolla, oppure trasformi il tuo elenco in una pagina web con i link, come ho fatto io: http://www.forsi.it/osm/spellcheck/highway/user/ ho appena aggiornato i dati e hai un Marttiri con 2 t da correggere ci sono altri servizi che indicano alcuni dei *possibili* errori di ortografia, attento ai falsi positivi, nel dubbio controlla il wiki o chiedi qui in lista: http://www.forsi.it/osm/spellcheck/tagsingolari.html http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagginglon=13.62012lat=43.44814zoom=5 http://keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=6lat=42.1938lon=12.35121layers=B0Tch=0%2C220show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
Domandina amletica: ma voi quando taggate un ristorante oltre ovviamente ad amenity=restaurant aggiungete anche name=Ristorante Da Pierino o semplicemente name=Da Pierino perché ristorante é un' informazione ridondante visto che c'é già nel tag amenity? E inoltre ho visto anche taggare in aggiunta con description:it=Trattoria (oppure Osteria) che ne dite? Grazie -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/amenity-restaurant-tp5747592.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
Il giorno 01 febbraio 2013 16:34, demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it ha scritto: Domandina amletica: ma voi quando taggate un ristorante oltre ovviamente ad amenity=restaurant aggiungete anche name=Ristorante Da Pierino o semplicemente name=Da Pierino perché ristorante é un' informazione ridondante visto che c'é già nel tag amenity? Non è ridondante. amenity=restaurant non mi dice se è un ristorante o un ristorante pizzeria o una bisteccheria. E inoltre ho visto anche taggare in aggiunta con description:it=Trattoria (oppure Osteria) che ne dite? Avevamo concordato un po' di tempo fa l'uso di restaurant:type:it=* Vedi qui il taginfo italiano: http://taginfo.hanskalabs.net/keys/restaurant%3Atype%3Ait#values Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
Chiarissimo e velocissimo: GRAZIE! ciao --enrico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/amenity-restaurant-tp5747592p5747600.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
...anzi ti chiedo ancora : ma se metto ad es. restaurant:type:it=Osteria nel tag name metterò anche Osteria Delle Streghe o semplicemente Delle Streghe? Grazie ancora. -enrico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/amenity-restaurant-tp5747592p5747602.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
2013/2/1 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it ...anzi ti chiedo ancora : ma se metto ad es. restaurant:type:it=Osteria nel tag name metterò anche Osteria Delle Streghe o semplicemente Delle Streghe? Metti name=Osteria delle Streghe restaurant:type:it=osteria Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
Ok, chiarissimissimo ! Grazie, ciao --enrico -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/amenity-restaurant-tp5747592p5747605.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
Il 01/02/2013 17:03, Simone Saviolo ha scritto: 2013/2/1 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it mailto:e.rossin...@alice.it ...anzi ti chiedo ancora : ma se metto ad es. restaurant:type:it=Osteria nel tag name metterò anche Osteria Delle Streghe o semplicemente Delle Streghe? Metti name=Osteria delle Streghe restaurant:type:it=osteria Ciao, Simone Tra l'altro secondo me i ristoranti e le pizzerie hanno nella stragrande maggioranza il riferimento nella ragione sociale Ristorante da Mario Pizzeria da Mario -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Utente
Salve a tutti, ho notato oggi le modifiche dell'utente fair, il quale sta spostando i nomi delle città da name=città_pinco_pallino a name:it=città_pinco_pallino Secondo voi è un comportamento corretto? Se ricordo bene, eravamo d'accordo che il nome comune andava sempre messo in name, al massimo poteva essere replicato in name:it. Saluti! -- Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Errori in OSM
Il 01/02/2013 14:32, Daniele Forsi ha scritto: Il 01 febbraio 2013 11:51, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: con il mio PC non posso visualizzare aree molto grandi, osm dice che l'area da caricare e troppo grande. lo dice prima di tutto per proteggere il server da richieste troppo impegnative, poi è molto probabile che non riusciresti a visualizzarli puoi installare e attivare il plugin Remote Control in JOSM, come ti ha suggerito Martin, perché ci sono diversi servizi che lo supportano direttamente così non devi passare dal copia e incolla, oppure trasformi il tuo elenco in una pagina web con i link, come ho fatto io: http://www.forsi.it/osm/spellcheck/highway/user/ Mooolto interessante. ho appena aggiornato i dati e hai un Marttiri con 2 t da correggere Grazie, ora correggo. ci sono altri servizi che indicano alcuni dei *possibili* errori di ortografia, attento ai falsi positivi, nel dubbio controlla il wiki o chiedi qui in lista: http://www.forsi.it/osm/spellcheck/tagsingolari.html http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagginglon=13.62012lat=43.44814zoom=5 http://keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=6lat=42.1938lon=12.35121layers=B0Tch=0%2C220show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 E ci facciamo una bella carrellata, thanks:-) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] amenity=restaurant
Il 01/02/2013 17:37, Gianluca Boero ha scritto: Il 01/02/2013 17:03, Simone Saviolo ha scritto: 2013/2/1 demon.box e.rossin...@alice.it mailto:e.rossin...@alice.it ...anzi ti chiedo ancora : ma se metto ad es. restaurant:type:it=Osteria nel tag name metterò anche Osteria Delle Streghe o semplicemente Delle Streghe? Metti name=Osteria delle Streghe restaurant:type:it=osteria Ciao, Simone Tra l'altro secondo me i ristoranti e le pizzerie hanno nella stragrande maggioranza il riferimento nella ragione sociale Ristorante da Mario Pizzeria da Mario OT/...fame.:-) /OT ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Utente
Il 30/01/2013 08:46, Enrico Piccinelli ha scritto: Salve a tutti, ho notato oggi le modifiche dell'utente fair, il quale sta spostando i nomi delle città da name=città_pinco_pallino a name:it=città_pinco_pallino Secondo voi è un comportamento corretto? Se ricordo bene, eravamo d'accordo che il nome comune andava sempre messo in name, al massimo poteva essere replicato in name:it. Hai ragione ho provveduto, non sto spostando i nomi, ma solo correggendo. Per il nome italiano lasciamo name e basta e per quelli in altre lingue mettiamo name:fr...eccok:-) Saluti! -- Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Utente
2013/2/1 Mario Pichetti mario.piche...@gmail.com: Hai ragione ho provveduto, non sto spostando i nomi, ma solo correggendo. Per il nome italiano lasciamo name e basta e per quelli in altre lingue mettiamo name:fr...eccok :-) non è un problema o errore di duplicare il nome italiano in name:it, sopratutto in zone multilingue è utile. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Utente
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/2/1 Mario Pichetti mario.piche...@gmail.com: Hai ragione ho provveduto, non sto spostando i nomi, ma solo correggendo. Per il nome italiano lasciamo name e basta e per quelli in altre lingue mettiamo name:fr...eccok :-) non è un problema o errore di duplicare il nome italiano in name:it, sopratutto in zone multilingue è utile. +1 Scusate per l'oggetto della mail un pò generico, mi è partito l'invio. ciao, Martin Saluti! -- Enrico Piccinelli picc...@tiscali.it___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Errori in OSM
Ciao, potresti zoomare fino a 10 metri sopra l'errore in JOSM, il server non dovrebbe farti storie per scaricare quella parte. Leonardo Il 01/02/2013 18:35, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: Il 01/02/2013 14:32, Daniele Forsi ha scritto: Il 01 febbraio 2013 11:51, Mario Pichetti ha scritto: con il mio PC non posso visualizzare aree molto grandi, osm dice che l'area da caricare e troppo grande. lo dice prima di tutto per proteggere il server da richieste troppo impegnative, poi è molto probabile che non riusciresti a visualizzarli puoi installare e attivare il plugin Remote Control in JOSM, come ti ha suggerito Martin, perché ci sono diversi servizi che lo supportano direttamente così non devi passare dal copia e incolla, oppure trasformi il tuo elenco in una pagina web con i link, come ho fatto io: http://www.forsi.it/osm/spellcheck/highway/user/ Mooolto interessante. ho appena aggiornato i dati e hai un Marttiri con 2 t da correggere Grazie, ora correggo. ci sono altri servizi che indicano alcuni dei *possibili* errori di ortografia, attento ai falsi positivi, nel dubbio controlla il wiki o chiedi qui in lista: http://www.forsi.it/osm/spellcheck/tagsingolari.html http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagginglon=13.62012lat=43.44814zoom=5 http://keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=6lat=42.1938lon=12.35121layers=B0Tch=0%2C220show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 E ci facciamo una bella carrellata, thanks:-) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Guida PostGIS
http://blog.openstreetmap.it/utenti/ un utente ha fatto un commento qua (non capisco perchè l'ho lasciata aperta, vabbè :D) e ha fatto una domanda su postgis chiedendo se ci fosse una guida semplice per usare osm in locale. Chi ha la risposta pronta? Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-lt] Išorinė informacija, IKI
Sveiki Gavome iš IKI jų parduotuvių tinklo *pastoviai atsinaujinančią* informaciją: http://www.iki.lt/classes/shops_data_xml/ Mano galva, tai puikus pavyzdys, kaip ir kiti šaltiniai galėtų teikti duomenis. Savo ruožtu mums belieka padaryti mappinimą xml elementų/savybių su osm žymomis ir tada jau galima daryti sinchronizaciją. P.S. Jei yra norinčių, galite naudoti šį šaltinį tiesiogiai. Per savaitgalį aš jį sukelsiu į http://z.samogitian.com/patrulis/isoriniai.php -- Tomas ___ Talk-lt mailing list Talk-lt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lt
Re: [Talk-lt] Išorinė informacija, IKI
O jei dar tame resurse nebūtų pražuvusios visos š raidės... :-) Ne visos, tik kai kurios :-) Sutariau, kad bus ir atgalinis ryšys - pranešime apie pastebėtas klaidas, tai manau su laiku bus tvarka. -- Tomas ___ Talk-lt mailing list Talk-lt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lt
Re: [Talk-dk] Ny OpenStreetMap editor iD er frigivet (tidlig alpha versione
1. feb. 2013 08.10 skrev Soren Johannessen soren.johannes...@gmail.com: Hurtigt review - indtil videre synes jeg ikke at den vil erstatte Potlatch 2 som begynderværktøjet som den ser ud nu. Der arbejdes videre på flere tiltag på iD og de modtager gerne inputs. Der hvor jeg ser en force er som brug på tablets, så du kan indsamle POIs og andre mindre ting, da iD kører på JavaScript og SVG og dermed kan bruges på iPads. Tak for tippet! Det ser ellers rimeligt lovende ud. Hvis der er andre der vil prøve det, så er her nogle caveats: - det er tydeligvis ikke testet i Firefox så vil nok anbefale man prøver Chrome/-ium - der er nogle eksperimenter i UI'en hvor af nogle er vellykkede og andre knap så meget :) - og så mangler der selvfølgelig en del ting Men det er en længe ventet udvikling, med Flash på vej i graven skulle der jo ske noget på et eller andet tidspunkt. Ole ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Ny OpenStreetMap editor iD er frigivet (tidlig alpha versione
1. feb. 2013 11.13 skrev Ole Laursen o...@hardworking.dk: Tak for tippet! Det ser ellers rimeligt lovende ud. Hm, jeg synes ikke kommentarer som i http://mapbox.com/osmdev/2012/11/20/getting-serious-about-svg/ Needless to say, Firefox is not the main target for iD testing because of a buggy and incomplete implementation of SVG relative to WebKit. er super opløftende dog. Ole ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Naturstyrelsens data - nogen der har set dem?
Hej Søren,- Her er lidt info om de primitive overnatningspladser: I forbindelse med en en ajourføring af bogen Overnatning i det fri i 2012 blev data (med stort besvær) overført fra NST UdiNaturen til Foreningen Frie Fugle. Jeg har derfor stillet tre spørgsmål til konsulent i Friluftsrådet Casper Lindemann, som er med i Erfa-gruppen, og hans svar har jeg sat i gåseøjne: 1. Er der i forbindelse med den nye bog om primitive overnatningspladser lavet særaftaler med Foreningen Frie Fugle, således at det nu er deres data? - Nej, der er ikke en aftale om at Foreningen Frie Fugle ejer data. Data tilhører Friluftsrådets ERFA-gruppe for primitive overnatningspladser også kaldet gruppen for OIDF. Foreningen Frie Fugle opdatere databasen over pladsholdere og det modtager de penge for, men data tilhører ERFA-gruppen. 2. Er bogens data blevet ajourført af Foreningen? - Ja, Foreningen Frie Fugle opdaterer løbende databasen over pladsholdere. Nye pladser og udgåede pladser indtastes løbende i databasen og offentliggøres på www.teltpladser.dk 3. Er en evt. ajourføring sendt tilbage til UdiNaturen? - Nej. Foreningen Frie Fugle opdatere i øjeblikket ikke på udinaturen.dk. Det skyldes at deres database ikke kan tale sammen med vores. Lidt teknisk at forklare i mail. Men ERFA-gruppen arbejder på en aftale med Naturstyrelsen som forhåbentlig kan løse problemet. Mon ikke du kan lave en aftale med Casper og Friluftsrådets ERFA-gruppe. Det ville være godt, hvis I kunne finde en form, der også indeholdt nogle tags med info om faciliteter, kontakttelf. etc. / sba-dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Soren Johannessen [mailto:soren.johannes...@gmail.com] Sendt: 29. januar 2013 19:43 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: [Talk-dk] Naturstyrelsens data - nogen der har set dem? Hej alle sammen Jeg læser i dag på Geodatastyrelsens hjemmeside følgende Hundeskovs-finderen er det første konkrete resultat af, at miljøminister Ida Auken sidste år besluttede at frigive Naturstyrelsens data om friluftsliv. http://www.gst.dk/Nyheder/Nyheder_ny/hundeapp.htm Måske der er noget jeg har overset men jeg har ikke kunne se nogen steder af fx data til shelters, primitive camping places og andet der har med friluftslivet at gøre ligger fremme. Da der har været flere personer gennem tiderne her på Talk-Dk-OSM som har efterlyst den slags data til at gøre OSM bedre, så vil jeg lige høre om nogen af jer er bekendt med det og har fundet disse ovennævnte data? og givet fald hvilken slags licens er det så under. Mvh Søren Johannessen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk - Ingen virus fundet i denne meddelelse. Kontrolleret af AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virusdatabase: 2639/6061 - Udgivelsesdato: 27-01-2013 ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-es] Normalización de Carreteras en Canarias
motorroad=yes se usaba en las antiguas vías rápidas El día 1 de febrero de 2013 08:49, Javier Sánchez javiers...@gmail.com escribió: El 1 de febrero de 2013 06:44, Ricardo Sanz ricardosanz1...@gmail.com escribió: propongo aprobar esta tabla ya Hola Por mi bien. Sólo cambiaría la etiqueta de las de tercer nivel || span style=background-color:#F0C000;color:black'''X'''/span por || span style=background-color:#F0C000;color:black'''nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;'''/span Queda más parecido a como se ve en la realidad. Y una pregunta, ¿qué pasó con el motorroad=no que se usaba antes junto a highway=trunck? Saludos. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] [catastro] Previo de CAT2OSM2: Madrid en 5 minutos (!)
El 28 de enero de 2013 09:51, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez escribió: Hola, me gustaría saber si tenéis planeado alguna manera (si es factible) de trocear los resultados en zonas. Por ejemplo, mi municipio (Orihuela) tiene una gran cantidad de núcleos rurales fuera del núcleo urbano, muy susceptibles de ser tratados por separado, aunque imagino que lo mismo podría aplicarse a grandes núcleos con muchos barrios Los resultados ya se dan por masas y polígonos urbanos. Si miras los ficheros de ejecución completa hay unos directorios con los resultados separados. ¡Genial! Ya lo he podido comprobar, esto va a facilitar mucho las cosas, aunque imagino que en poblaciones grandes saldrán miles de masas. ¡Qué ganas de que nos dejen empezar, jeje! Por cierto, probando con la última versión del GitHub, he podido constatar que en los resultados, como ya habéis comentado anteriormente en el hilo, hay muchísimas parcelas/edificios que se superponen, en muchos casos de manera idéntica (si no hay huecos ni cosas raras), una vía (landuse) contiene los datos catastrales y el nodo del portal y la otra vía (building) contiene el edificio. No sé si habéis llegado a un consenso respecto a esto, pero yo al menos en estos casos de coincidencia exacta dejaría sólo una vía con las etiquetas del landuse y del building. Un saludo. Y de nuevo felicidades por vuestro trabajo. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] [catastro] Previo de CAT2OSM2: Madrid en 5 minutos (!)
Si, por lo general en estos casos se comrpueba si el polígono del building es idéntico al de la parcela o si su diferencia es prácticamente 0. En las poblaciones que hemos probado los casos se detectaban bastante bien pero dado que en Catastro muchas cosas las dibujan mal, puede ser que en los casos que estás encontrando Cat2Osm2 no haya deducido que se podían unir. ¿Puedes enviarnos una imagen o el archivo para ver por qué puede ser? Saludos y gracias! El 1 de febrero de 2013 10:18, Benjamín Valero Espinosa benjaval...@gmail.com escribió: El 28 de enero de 2013 09:51, Cruz Enrique Borges Hernandez escribió: Hola, me gustaría saber si tenéis planeado alguna manera (si es factible) de trocear los resultados en zonas. Por ejemplo, mi municipio (Orihuela) tiene una gran cantidad de núcleos rurales fuera del núcleo urbano, muy susceptibles de ser tratados por separado, aunque imagino que lo mismo podría aplicarse a grandes núcleos con muchos barrios Los resultados ya se dan por masas y polígonos urbanos. Si miras los ficheros de ejecución completa hay unos directorios con los resultados separados. ¡Genial! Ya lo he podido comprobar, esto va a facilitar mucho las cosas, aunque imagino que en poblaciones grandes saldrán miles de masas. ¡Qué ganas de que nos dejen empezar, jeje! Por cierto, probando con la última versión del GitHub, he podido constatar que en los resultados, como ya habéis comentado anteriormente en el hilo, hay muchísimas parcelas/edificios que se superponen, en muchos casos de manera idéntica (si no hay huecos ni cosas raras), una vía (landuse) contiene los datos catastrales y el nodo del portal y la otra vía (building) contiene el edificio. No sé si habéis llegado a un consenso respecto a esto, pero yo al menos en estos casos de coincidencia exacta dejaría sólo una vía con las etiquetas del landuse y del building. Un saludo. Y de nuevo felicidades por vuestro trabajo. ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Ander Pijoan Lamas Research Assistant, Deustotech Computer Science Engineer University of Deusto E-mail: ander.pij...@deusto.es Phone: +34 664471228 in: http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=162888312 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] [catastro] Previo de CAT2OSM2: Madrid en 5 minutos (!)
Por cierto, probando con la última versión del GitHub, he podido constatar que en los resultados, como ya habéis comentado anteriormente en el hilo, hay muchísimas parcelas/edificios que se superponen, en muchos casos de manera idéntica (si no hay huecos ni cosas raras), una vía (landuse) contiene los datos catastrales y el nodo del portal y la otra vía (building) contiene el edificio. No sé si habéis llegado a un consenso respecto a esto, pero yo al menos en estos casos de coincidencia exacta dejaría sólo una vía con las etiquetas del landuse y del building. Se supone que eso ya debería de estar arreglado :S ¿Nos puedes pasar el config y los shapefiles para probar? -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] [catastro] Previo de CAT2OSM2: Madrid en 5 minutos (!)
El 1 de febrero de 2013 10:29, Cruz Enrique Borges escribió: Por cierto, probando con la última versión del GitHub, he podido constatar que en los resultados, como ya habéis comentado anteriormente en el hilo, hay muchísimas parcelas/edificios que se superponen, en muchos casos de manera idéntica (si no hay huecos ni cosas raras), una vía (landuse) contiene los datos catastrales y el nodo del portal y la otra vía (building) contiene el edificio. No sé si habéis llegado a un consenso respecto a esto, pero yo al menos en estos casos de coincidencia exacta dejaría sólo una vía con las etiquetas del landuse y del building. Se supone que eso ya debería de estar arreglado :S ¿Nos puedes pasar el config y los shapefiles para probar? En cuanto pueda os los enviaré. ¿Me podéis confirmar si el JAR en GitHub corresponde a la última versión de Cat2Osm2? En caso contrario, ¿dónde está esta última versión? ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-es] Duda sobre etiquetación
Hola Lista: Estoy agregando una información de unos comercios dentro de una calle en la Ciudad de México. Simplemente se me complica mucho. ¿Podrían decirme donde puedo encontrar cómo etiquetar lo siguiente? 1.- El número de portal de las propiedades. Por ejemplo: Un propiedad en calle Clavería, número 161, 2 niveles de construcción. 2.- En el caso de que en una propiedad, por ejemplo, una casa hayan destinados una parte a comercio, restaurante, etc. ¿Tendría que dibujar todo el polígono indicando la dirección y otros polígonos interiores con los distintos usos de suelo o basta con poner un nodo encima de cada comercio? Es decir, ¿se vale poner un nodo encima de un polígono? Seguramente esto está muy masticado por ustedes, aún así espero que pueda ayudarme. Cordialmente Ulises ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Duda sobre etiquetación
Hola Ulises, 2013/2/1 Ulises Ibarra ulisesmartiniba...@gmail.com 1.- El número de portal de las propiedades. Por ejemplo: Un propiedad en calle Clavería, número 161, 2 niveles de construcción Para el número de la calle: addr:housenumber=161 más detalles en: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Key:addr Para los niveles de construcción: building:levels=2 más detalles en: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels 2.- En el caso de que en una propiedad, por ejemplo, una casa hayan destinados una parte a comercio, restaurante, etc. ¿Tendría que dibujar todo el polígono indicando la dirección y otros polígonos interiores con los distintos usos de suelo o basta con poner un nodo encima de cada comercio? Es decir, ¿se vale poner un nodo encima de un polígono? Si quieres puedes entretenerte a hacer el mapeo del interior: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IndoorOSM (cosa que nunca he hecho y parece compleja), pero si no se trata de una gran superfície quizás lo más fácil es, en mi opinión, crear un nodo para cada comercio encima del polígono. Quizás alguién puede aconsejarte otra cosa. Un saludo! -- *KONFRARE ALBERT* La Konfraria de la Vila del Pingüí de La Palma WEB:http://www.konfraria.org TWITTER: http://twitter.com/La_Konfraria FACEBOOK: http://ca-es.facebook.com/people/Konfraria-Vila-Del-Pingui/11918952076 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Duda sobre etiquetación
Si quieres puedes entretenerte a hacer el mapeo del interior: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IndoorOSM (cosa que nunca he hecho y parece compleja), pero si no se trata de una gran superfície quizás lo más fácil es, en mi opinión, crear un nodo para cada comercio encima del polígono. Quizás alguién puede aconsejarte otra cosa. Un saludo! Sobre esto Ander y yo hemos tenido alguna discusión. Quizá puedan ayudarnos. La discusión es cual de las siguientes opciones es lo que se debería de hacer: a) El nodo con el uso debe de ir en el way del edificio (en donde está la entrada de la tienda o lo que sea) con un entrance=yes y los datos del comercio. (pero no su número y demás pues lo hereda del edificio en el que está). b) El nodo está flotando en el área del edificio y contiene toda la información de localización (calle, número, y demás) además de los datos del uso. Obviamente con IndoorOSM la cosa no tiene discusión porque las tiendas pasan a ser subparcelas como los cultivos de catastro :P A ver si nos sacáis de dudas. -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.bor...@deusto.es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Duda sobre etiquetación
2.- En el caso de que en una propiedad, por ejemplo, una casa hayan destinados una parte a comercio, restaurante, etc. ¿Tendría que dibujar todo el polígono indicando la dirección y otros polígonos interiores con los distintos usos de suelo o basta con poner un nodo encima de cada comercio? Es decir, ¿se vale poner un nodo encima de un polígono? Es lo más sencillo si no quieres ponerte a dibujar los distintos localaes del edificio :) -- Atentamente, Suárez ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Duda sobre etiquetación
/Hola Enrique: * Si quieres puedes entretenerte a hacer el mapeo del interior:** http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IndoorOSM (cosa que nunca he hecho y** parece compleja), pero si no se trata de una gran superfície quizás lo más** fácil es, en mi opinión, crear un nodo para cada comercio encima del** polígono.** Quizás alguién puede aconsejarte otra cosa.** ** Un saludo!* Sobre esto Ander y yo hemos tenido alguna discusión. Quizá puedan ayudarnos. La discusión es cual de las siguientes opciones es lo que se debería de hacer: a) El nodo con el uso debe de ir en el way del edificio (en donde está la entrada de la tienda o lo que sea) con un entrance=yes y los datos del comercio. (pero no su número y demás pues lo hereda del edificio en el que está). b) El nodo está flotando en el área del edificio y contiene toda la información de localización (calle, número, y demás) además de los datos del uso. Obviamente con IndoorOSM la cosa no tiene discusión porque las tiendas pasan a ser subparcelas como los cultivos de catastro :P A ver si nos sacáis de dudas. /Es la opción a). Los comercios está en la fachada del edificio y cada uno tiene su entrada. /Te agradezco /Ulises -- Cruz Enrique Borges Hernández Email: cruz.borges en deusto.es http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es DeustoTech Energy Telefono: 944139000 ext.2052 Avda. Universidades, 24 48007 Bilbao, Spain ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-at] Naturdenkmäler
On 01.02.13 06:45, Andreas Labres wrote: Es gibt Naturdenkmäler Übrigens ist das eben nicht immer nur ein Baum. Z.B. können das zwei Bäume sein: http://www.wien.gv.at/umweltgut/public/identifyNaturdenkmal.aspx?id=ND_P.4292mid=9b30b56e-953c-4c7c-9cf1-726663ccftype=vienna:UMWELT.ND_Pg=f777e218-2ff6-402e-bd80-330bf4a1b8d9cid=21e7176d-d200-469d-888d-f3bfcce99e94 Naturdenkmal Nr. 422 sind * eine Platane (Baum Nr. 1028, diese hier http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1582655375) * und eine Schwarzföhre (noch nicht in OSM eingetragen) Und der Baumkataster umfasst nur Bäume auf öffentlichem Grund (während Naturdenkmäler auch auf Privatgrund stehen). Übrigens, Frage an alle, wie wollen wir Naturdenkmäler taggen? natural=monument ref:naturdenkmal=# ref:wien:naturdenkmal=# ref:natural_monument=# ? /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Naturdenkmäler
On 01.02.13 09:30, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: Nop hat sowas mal gemacht Klar, daher kommt ja auch der signifikant Begriff und Frederiks Frage (Welche Bäume scheinen in Nops Wander-/Reitkarte auf?). denotation=natural_monument ist dafür üblich, obwohl ich den Key idiotisch finde, weil damit unterschiedliche Arten von Informationen vermantscht werden. Naja, der ganze denotation Key kommt von der Nopschen Baumsignifikantdiskussion und ja, er ist idiotisch. Besser wäre jeweils sachbezogen: - das ist eine Landmarke (wobei wir da wieder bei der Seekartendiskussion sind, weil für die wieder nur vom Meer aus sichtbare Dinge Landmarken sind) - das ist ein Naturdenkmal Und Nop kann sich dann aussuchen, was davon er darstellt. Besser wär sowas wie natural_monument=yes oder protection=natural_monument o.ä. Ich finde natural=monument noch immer bestechend. ;) Und die ref-Nummer müßte eben auch getaggt werden (Wiener Naturdenkmäler sind durchnummeriert). /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Naturdenkmäler
On 01.02.2013 09:06, Andreas Labres wrote: Übrigens, Frage an alle, wie wollen wir Naturdenkmäler taggen? natural=monument natural=* (ver)brauchen wir schon für natural=tree/cave_entrance/etc. natural=* ist ein physisches Tag, während der Umstand, dass etwas ein Naturdenkmal ist, eher eine immaterielle Eigenschaft ist (wenn man vom Naturdenkmal-Taferl absieht, und gerade dieses ist nicht natürlich). ref:naturdenkmal=# ref:wien:naturdenkmal=# ref:natural_monument=# Da es Naturdenkmäler wahrscheinlich nicht nur im deutschen Sprachraum gibt, bin ich für einen englischsprachigen Key. Die Frage ist halt, ob ref am Anfang stehen soll, wenn es bei cave:ref und tree:ref am Ende steht. Bei der Gelegenheit können wir uns auch gleich was für Kulturdenkmäler überlegen. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Wochenendaktion: OSMBUGS
Hi, mir ist aufgefallen, dass auf osmbugs.org eigentlich kaum Bugs gefixt werden. Ich dachte mir, lasst uns doch dieses Wochenende versuchen, da ordentlich aufzuräumen! Wer ist dabei? LG, Markus ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wochenendaktion: OSMBUGS
Servus! On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 18:03 +0100, Markus Straub wrote: mir ist aufgefallen, dass auf osmbugs.org eigentlich kaum Bugs gefixt werden. Ich dachte mir, lasst uns doch dieses Wochenende versuchen, da ordentlich aufzuräumen! Die OSBs im Raum Innsbruck habe ich einigermaßen im Blick (und verwende sie zwischendurch selbst als Notizzettel, wenn ich nur mit dem Handy unterwegs bin (OsmAnd)). Die davon kann/will ich gerade nicht lösen (will jetzt keine Wanderung irgendwo im Wald unternehmen) und manche lasse ich stehen, weil ich sie nett/lustig finde, beispielsweise: http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?lat=47.25816lon=11.38771zoom=17layers=B0T http://www.mapdust.com/ liefert mitunter auch wertvolle Informationen (neben viel nutzloser Fehlermeldungen). Darüber habe ich heute zwei Richtungen von Einbahnen richtiggestellt. Liebe Grüße aus Tirol Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] map für turn restrictions QA
gerade in #osm vorbegehuscht: http://mapcomlu.com/ eine karte, die (schadhafte) turn restrictions sehr hübsch visualisiert. -- Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Stefan Tauner ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Updated CD:NGI Aerial Imagery Now Available
On 31 January 2013 19:35, Gerhardus Geldenhuis gerhardus.geldenh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Is there an easy way of seeing the age of the CD:NGI image in JOSM? Show tile info only shows the tile name and zoom level. Not currently. I'm working on adding an overlay (transparent layer) which will show the year the imagery was captured in. I only have the year the imagery was captured in. Roughly the imagery is as follows: * Western Cape: 2009/2010 * Northern Cape (Northern Section): 2008/2009 * Northern Cape (rest): 2010/2011 * Eastern Cape: 2011/2012 * KZN: 2008/2009 * Free State (west): 2008 * Free State (east): 2010/2011 * Gauteng: 2011/2012 * North West: 2009/2010 * Limpopo: 2011/2012 * Mpumalanga: 2011/2012 Medupi power station was captured in Q1 2012. / Grant ___ Talk-ZA mailing list Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
Re: [Talk-lv] Maršrutēšana
Līdzīga problēma ir maps.cloudmade.com Maršrutu tas māk uzzīmēt, bet ja grib ar velo izbraukt caur highway=path tad nekā... G On 01/31/2013 09:24 PM, Rich wrote: On 2013-01-31 20:38, Edgars Piruška wrote: Kādu tur pareizi būtu jāliek? Tajā klasifikācijā var saputroties. nu, jaasaprot, kas tas ir... ja vienkaarshi mezha celjsh, tad, visticamaak, highway=track... bet, diemzheel, tas shobriid defaultaa nerouteejas :D sekojam liidzi https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM/issues/576 ___ Talk-lv mailing list Talk-lv@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lv
Re: [Talk-ca] Sidewalks
My personal preference is to enable the JOSM sidewalk style and then use the sidewalk:right sidewalk:left, sidewalk:both, or sidewalk:none tags on the actual street. The footpaths are just about useless (as in the example above) as they are not related to the street in anyway. So the routing engine couldn't say turn left onto Maple Street. It could only say turn left. If the tags are on the actual street and not separately mapped, it is much easier for a routing engine. http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles/Sidewalks Cheers, ingalls On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I don't map sidewalks like that but I respect local mappers' work and would not change this, as it isn't really wrong. I don't think there's a strong consensus to map sidewalks merely as attributes of the adjoining road, and there are a lot of problems with that approach, too. E.g. how to mapp accessibility features like curb cuts or the need to chop ways into tiny segments in cases where sidewalks appear and disappear. Cheers, Harald. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: I came across this when I was working on Map Roulette connectivity corrections – http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.98773840069771lon=-81.24551922082901zoom=18 I thought it was not advised to digitize sidewalks along urban streets – Are there any other opinions on this? -- Bernie Connors, P.Eng bernie.conn...@unb.ca New Maryland, NB ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Activations humanitaires, Groupe HOT
Tout le monde se souvient de la façon dont la communauté OSM a fait la une en janvier 2010 lors du tremblement de terre en Haïti. Depuis lors, le groupe humanitaire Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) a poursuivi sa collaboration avec diverses ONG humanitaires et agences de l'ONU pour soutenir les organisations humanitaires lors de diverses catastrophes dans le but de faciliter l'aide humanitaire. Les récents conflits militaires en République démocratique du Congo, au Mali et en Syrie ont créé une situation humanitairetrès complexe. Des centaines de milliers de personnes sont actuellement déplacées et de nouvelles personnes sont déplacées régulièrement. Il est également très dificile pour les ONG de circuler sur le territoire. La logistique pour répondre à ces besoins humanitaires nécessite de bonnes cartes de base qui ne sont généralement pas disponibles dans ces pays. La communauté OSM est très sollicitée pour collaborer à cartographier rapidement ces régions tandis que les services de cartes commerciaux négligent ces pays. L'équipe de HOT a récemment activé des actions de cartographie pour supporter l'organisation des actions humanitaires pour ces trois pays, ce à la demande de l'Office des Nations Unies pour la coordination des affaires humanitaires (UNOCHA) et des organisations humanitaires dans ces trois pays. Compte-tenu decette situation très particulière et de la tâche à accomplir, nous sollicitons l'aide d'autres contributeurs OSM pour cartographier ces pays en fonction des besoins des organisations humanitaires. Vous pouvez voir les articles publiés sur le Blog HOT pour décrire ces activations. - http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2012-12-13_hot_activation_sud_et_nord_kivu_r%C3%A9publique_d%C3%A9mocratique_du_congo - Http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-01-28_syria_activation - http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2013-02-01_activation_pour_le_mali Le Gestionnaire de tâches OSM facilite la coordination de la cartographie à distance (Crowdmapping) par les différents contributeurs. Nous invitons la communauté OSM en général à venir aider l'équipe HOT à répondre rapidement à cette situation humanitaire urgente. Voici des liens vers les sections du Gestionnaire de tâches pour ces trois pays. - http://tasks.hotosm.org/#all/Congo - http://tasks.hotosm.org/#all/Mali - http://tasks.hotosm.org/#all/syria En plus de la cartographie de base, nous sommes invités à géolocaliser divers services de base (ie. établissements de santé, écoles et. points d'eau). Cette information est cruciale pour les organisations humanitaires et nous recherchons des bénévoles ayant la connaissance locale de ces pays pour nous aider à ce sujet. Ces activités de cartographie coordonnées par les membres de HOT décrits ci-dessous et par l'intermédiaire de la liste de distribution http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot HOT . - République démocratique du Congo: Pierre Béland avec Claire Halleux à titre de contact HOT en RD Congo - Mali: Pierre Béland et Frédéric Bonifas - Syrie: Joseph Reeves - Le soutien à ces équipes par Nicolas et Kate Chapman S'il vous plaît rejoignez-nous! Pierre Béland Groupe humanitaire HOT___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
