Re: [talk-ph] Philippine multilingual place names (English/native language)

[ianlopez]

In a lot of cases, I'm going with the "what locals call it" plus "official 
name" rule of thumb when using the name=* tag, aside from the numerous name:xx 
tags used in mapping the Philippines. Aside from Eugene's examples, another 
specific case would be Taal, Batangas where the street names in its poblacion 
area are appended with "Calle" instead of "Street".
 

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  From: Eugene Alvin Villar 
 To: Jherome Miguel  
Cc: talk-ph 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Philippine multilingual place names (English/native 
language)
   
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Jherome Miguel  wrote:


It already looks important to have place names under the name= tag be bilingual 
or multilingual, not just in English, especially when taking regard speakers of 
native languages (Tagalog, Cebuano, Hiligaynon, Kapampangan, Ilocano, etc.), 
and use of native. I am proposing a scheme where the name under the place tag 
would have English as first name, and second name in the Tagalog (usually 
formal), and the third name in the native language (on places other than those 
in Tagalog speaking areas)


[Oops. Sent too early.]
So in essence, you want to propose something like what is done in Belgium?
I don't agree. I want the name=* to use just a single name, defaulting to 
English as much as possible (since English is an official language of the 
Philippines) and avoiding Tagalog/Filipino because that is a sensitive issue 
outside of native Tagalog-speaking areas.
The only time we will use non-native English names is when the native form is 
overwhelmingly used even in English texts such as in English news articles, 
English books, and English academic papers. For example, in practically every 
English news article about the Marcos burial issue, every news outlet used the 
name "Libingan ng mga Bayani" instead of "Cemetery of Heroes" or "Heroes' 
Cemetery". So name=Libingan ng mga Bayani is used. This goes for other places 
such as "Liwasang Bonifacio" (not "Bonifacio Park" or "Bonifacio Square" or 
"Bonifacio Plaza"), "Malacañang sa Sugbo" (not "Malacañang in Cebu"), "Paseo de 
Roxas" (not "Roxas Path"), "Zamboanga del Norte" (not "Northern Zamboanga"), 
etc.
~Eugene



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[talk-ph] Retagging Plantersbank/China Bank Savings branches (planned mechanical edit)

[ianlopez]

A few days ago, a proposal to rename Plantersbank branches to China Bank 
Savings branches was floated [1]. A subsequent announcement was later posted in 
this mailing list [2].
Affected areas: Places with a former Plantersbank branch. Based on an Overpass 
turbo query, there are 26 branches in OpenStreetMap [3] plus 12 branches that 
were renamed prior to January 2, 2017 [4].
Planned tagging schema for China Bank Savings (formerly Plantersbank) 
branches:amenity=bankname=China Bank Savingsoperator=China Bank Savings, 
Inc.old_name=Plantersbank
Optional tagsatm=yesbranch= [name of branch] (if previously added)address 
tagsopening_hours= [time the branch is open] (if previously added)
How will I edit: I got an OSM data extract of Plantersbank and selected China 
Bank Savings branches in many parts of the country via overpass turbo. I intend 
to create 8 changesets for this edit:* one for Mindanao (Davao and General 
Santos cities)* one for Visayas (Cebu)* one for Palawan* one for Southern Luzon 
(Laguna, Quezon, Batangas and Cavite)* one for Metro Manila and Rizal* three 
for Northern and Central Luzon (Bulacan and Pampanga; Pangasinan and La Union; 
Isabela)
I also intend to add, change (is_in:*=* to addr:*=*) and remove some tags in 
the process (type=*, osm_id=*, designation=* among others)
Planned edit date: January 11, 2017
Other details: The account ianlopez1115_mech [5] will be used for the first 
time, and the said account shall be subsequently used for other mechanical 
edits. Documentation for such edits will be posted in the this mailing list and 
OpenStreetMap Wiki [6]. Feel free to make comments/suggestions concerning my 
planned mechanical edits in this thread and other channels, such as the slack 
group [7] and the OSM Philippines Community Facebook group [8].

[1] 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2016-December/006031.html; 
read post-merger announcement at http://www.cbs.com.ph/news.php?mod=79[2] 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2016-December/006033.html[3] 
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/kYg
[4] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/kYe [5] 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ianlopez1115_mech[6] 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/Ianlopez1115#Plantersbank.2FChina_Bank_Savings_tagging_change_.28January_2017.29[7]
 https://osmph.slack.com/[8] https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmph/



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[talk-ph] Overdue Post-Mechanical Edit report (BDO)

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In early July 2015, I made 32 changesets [1] that are part of the BDO 
Mechanical Edits.

What I did:
1. Inform the mappers in the affected areas using this mailing list while 
simultaneously making a plan on how to manage the edits and publicizing them 
for comments and suggestions
2. Document my mechanical edits in the OSM Wiki
3. Make mechanical edits
4. Make a Post-Mechanical Edit report

What I've noticed:
1. During the mechanical editing process, I forgot to add the operator tag on 
BDO branches in Pangasinan on the first changeset [2]. Thus, another changeset 
was created to rectify it [3].
2. I also deleted some building polygons in Valenzuela City since they were 
duplicates of an existing building polygon [4] and that one BDO branch in Las 
Piñas was not included in the changeset for BDO branches in Southern Parañaque, 
Las Piñas and Muntinlupa [5]. The issue was then fixed in changeset 32537180 
[6].
3. I made a progress report midway through the mechanical edit, announcing its 
temporary suspension and resumption time and date [7]. The mechanical edits 
resumed at 4 PM (Philippine Standard Time) and ended at 4:44 PM on the said 
date.
4. Duplicate elements were also deleted in the changesets for the Visayas [8][9]
5. Similar to rebranded Allied Bank/PNB branches, there are cases that BDO 
branches have been relocated or closed. 
6. The mechanical editing process encountered some difficulties, as mentioned 
in the mechanical edits update [7]. Other than that, the editing process went 
smoothly as planned.

What can you do after the recent mechanical edit:
1. Do on-the-ground surveys to confirm if the BDO branches that I modified 
still exist, as branch relocations happen, as in the cases of the rebranded 
Allied Bank/PNB branches.
2. If you noticed that my mechanical edits do not correspond to the 
on-the-ground situation, do the following:
2.1 Message me to revert my mechanical edit for a certain branch or area.
2.2 Make the corresponding edits. Example: if a BDO branch is closed or 
relocated, mark it as such.

To be done in future mechanical edits:
1. Notify users in affected areas at least 3 days before the planned mechanical 
edits through other means such as OSM inbox and the slack group since not 
everyone is a part of this mailing list.
2. Create a dedicated mechanical edits account, which was done on December 31, 
2016 [10]


[1] see 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits/Ianlopez1115#BDO_(June-July_2015)
 
[2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32324927
[3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32324983
[4] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32326511
[5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32330957
[6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32537180
[7] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2015-July/005712.html
[8] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32537353
[9] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32537408
[10] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ianlopez1115_mech
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Re: [talk-ph] Retagging all Plantersbank branches to China Bank Savings branches

[ianlopez]

Now that the plan was mentioned, I'll be making further announcements on or 
before January 3, 2017. In addition, a post-Mechanical Update report concerning 
BDO branches in 2015[1] will be published on the same day. The mechanical edit 
will be done no sooner than on January 10, 2017 under a dedicated account to be 
created prior to the said date.
[1] this report will be similar to the post-Mechanical Update report concerning 
former Allied Bank branches that became PNB branches after their merger in 2013

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  From: Jherome Miguel 
 To: talk-ph  
 Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Retagging all Plantersbank branches to China Bank 
Savings branches
   
Follow-up:
Here are also Overpass API queries:1. Overpass API query for Plantersbank 
branches named "Plantersbank"2. Overpass API query for Plantersbank branches 
named "Planters Bank"
The latter is, however, has most instances, excluding instances named "United 
Coconut Planters Bank", that which I will look upon for all instances to be 
renamed "UCPB", per current branding, that is evident in signage.
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Jherome Miguel  wrote:

Last day, I sent a message to ianlopez1115 regarding a proposal to retag all 
remaining Plantersbank branches to China Bank Savings branches, making 
"Plantersbank" the old_name=* tag. As mentioned in an announcement by 
Chinabank, Plantersbank started its merger with China Bank Savings (CBS), a 
Chinabank subsidiary. I already made some retagging of Plantersbank branches in 
Metro Manila (in this changeset and the following one), but for most edits, 
they will to be done as mechanical edits by ianlopez1115, using a dedicated 
account.
While I started the first edits in JOSM, using Overpass API queries, I will not 
do every edit here. Ianlopez1115 will handle the rest of the retagging edits, 
but it will be discussed here on talk-ph first, and documented on this page on 
the OpenStreetMap Wiki. before the edits will be done, as that will be an 
automated edit. Stay tuned for updates regarding my proposal I sent to 
ianlopez1115 about retagging all Plantersbank branches to China Bank Savings 
branches, if he agreed.

Have a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. Happy mapping!
,---TagaSanPedroAko


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[talk-ph] BDO Mechanical Edits update (quick progess report, some edits partially rescheduled rescheduled to July 10)

[ianlopez]

I've managed to make 17 changesets covering north and central Luzon and the 
western half of Metro Manila [1] on July 1. In one changeset, I deleted some 
building polygons in Valenzuela City since they were duplicates of an existing 
building polygon[2].

Due to what happened to changeset 32324927[3] (in which I forgot to add the 
operator tag in that changeset, fixed in changeset 32324983[4]), I postponed 
making further mechanical edits and made a manual review of the data intended 
for uploading. I also found out that I accidentally excluded the Las Piñas – 
Evia Daang Hari branch from the changeset for the Southern Parañaque, Las Piñas 
and Muntinlupa area[5]. It will still be part of the mechanical edits, but it 
shall be placed under the changeset for Cavite.

The mechanical edits, which covers the eastern half of Metro Manila, the rest 
of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao, will resume on July 10 between 11 AM and 1 PM. 
The mechanical edits will end before 4 PM on the same day (PHT).


[1] a list of changesets can be found at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/Ianlopez1115#BDO_.28June-July_2015.29
 , just scroll down to the changesets section.
[2] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32326511
[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32324927
[4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32324983
[5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32330957

 
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Re: [talk-ph] Renaming BDO branches (planned mechanical edit)

[ianlopez]

I use overpass turbo to retrieve the BDO branches data but I manually review 
them and make edits through JOSM. So, it's more or less a semi-automatic method 
of editing.



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  From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 To: ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Renaming BDO branches (planned mechanical edit)
   
Dear Ian,

Looks sensible to me.  Are you doing this using an automated method
(i.e. script) or  manually reviewing all ~400 BDOs?



On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:08 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Last March 21, malenki made an edit on various Philippine banks [1]. In that
 changeset, he attempted to standardize tagging for BDO branches by renaming
 them to “Banco de Oro, among other changes. I intend to rename banks tagged
 as name=“Banco de Oro” (using the tag name=BDO), since they are branded as
 such [2], in which malenki agrees[3]. Not only that, this is an attempt to
 make the name tag for BDO branches consistent. Thus, the need for a
 mechanical edit to make the needed changes.

 Affected areas: Places with a BDO branch. Based on an Overpass turbo query,
 there are 410 branches in OpenStreetMap[4].

 Planned tagging schema for BDO branches:
 amenity=bank
 name=BDO
 operator=BDO Unibank
 alt_name=Banco de Oro

 Optional tags
 atm=yes
 branch= [name of branch] (if previously added)
 address tags
 opening_hours= [time the branch is open] (if previously added)

 How will I edit: I got an OSM data extract of BDO branches in many parts of
 the country via overpass turbo. I intend to create 31 changesets for this
 edit:
 * two for Mindanao (Zamboanga Peninsula, Basilan, Sulu, Taw-Tawi, Northern
 Mindanao, Lanao del Sur and CARAGA; Davao Region, SOCCSKSARGEN and
 Maguindanao)
 * two for Visayas (Boracay, Panay and Negros; Cebu, Bohol, Samar and Leyte)
 * one for Palawan
 * four for Southern Luzon (Bicol; Laguna and Quezon; Batangas; Cavite)
 * fourteen for Metro Manila and Rizal (Parañaque [south of NAIA], Las Piñas
 and Muntinlupa; Parañaque [west of NAIA] and Pasay; Makati; Fort Bonifacio
 area, Taguig and Pasig [south of Pasig River/Napindan Channel]; Pasig [north
 of Pasig River/Napindan Channel]; Cainta, Taytay and Angono; Marikina and
 Antipolo; Mandaluyong and San Juan; Quezon City [District 4; Districts 2, 5
 and 6; Districts 1 and 3]; Manila [north of Pasig River; south of Pasig
 River and Santa Ana]; Caloocan, Malabon, Navotas and Valenzuela)
 * eight for Northern and Central Luzon (Bulacan; Pampanga; Bataan and
 Zambales; Nueva Ecija and Tarlac; Pangasinan; La Union and Benguet; Isabela
 and Cagayan; Ilocos Provinces and Abra)

 I also intend to add, change (short_name=BDO to name=BDO; name=Bdo to
 name=BDO) and remove some tags in the process (type=*, osm_id=*,
 designation=* among others)

 Planned edit date: June 26, 2015

 Feel free to make comments/suggestions concerning my planned mechanical
 edits in this thread.

 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29637953
 [2] per a changeset comment in [1], he states that You are quite welcome to
 do so., referring to the plan to rename the elements tagged as Banco de
 Oro to BDO
 [3] see https://www.bdo.com.ph/about-bdo/business-operation  (alternate copy
 at
 https://web.archive.org/web/20150501072847/https://www.bdo.com.ph/about-bdo/business-operation
 )
 [4] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/9Yp

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[talk-ph] Imagery update (April 2015)

[ianlopez]

Today, I noticed that the Los Baños, Laguna area has new imagery (taken on 
January 8, 2014). Unfortunately, many parts of Laguna (San Pedro, Nuvali, 
Canlubang, San Pablo, Santa Cruz, Nagcarlan), southern Metro Manila (from NAIA 
downwards), central and eastern Cavite and parts of western Quezon (Candelaria, 
Sariaya, Lucena) are no longer covered by Bing aerial images. 
I wonder if there is a way to request for new Bing aerial imagery, especially 
for areas that recently lost coverage.

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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Undo Changeset

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fixed it (see http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/25561264 )   
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  From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
 Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:12 PM
 Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Undo Changeset
   
Got this message from a user.  I tried reverting using the JOSM
reverter plugin but I can't seem to fix it.  Please take a look.

-- Forwarded message --
From: k0n m-457296-177...@messages.openstreetmap.org
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:23:47 +
Subject: [OpenStreetMap] Undo Changeset
To: esamb...@yahoo.com

Hi maning,

k0n has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject Undo
Changeset:

==
Hi,

Can you undo Changeset: 25539454. I made a mistake here I deleted the
river flow. I was trying to edit it.

Thanks
==


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Re: [talk-ph] Can't connect to OSM over the past few days

[ianlopez]

I was able to connect to the API, wiki and the main page using normal methods 
since yesterday. Got connection timeouts (on Firefox) and API connection errors 
in JOSM from Wednesday to Saturday.



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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 11:27 AM SGT Mark Cupitt wrote:

Ian, I have noticed lately that it has been very slow from Dumaguete, I
know PLDT was having issues with their international links a couple of
weeks ago (It was announced on their recorded hold message when you wait
for a Cust Service Rep)

I am not sure if they still have issues, but I can access OSM, but it is
not as quick as it used to be.

Cheers
Mark



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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:30 AM, RK rk.ara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ian,

 What error messages are you getting?

 Sent from my Android phone
 On Apr 28, 2014 10:11 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Works here.  Using PLDT.

 On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:28 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  I noticed that I can't connect to the OpenStreetMap main page, the OSM
 wiki
  and the API. Internet service provider is PLDT. Have other users
  encountereded similar problems over the past few days?
 
  Postscript: I was able to access OSM and make edits using a proxy.
 
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[talk-ph] Can't connect to OSM over the past few days

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I noticed that I can't connect to the OpenStreetMap main page, the OSM wiki and 
the API. Internet service provider is PLDT. Have other users encountereded 
similar problems over the past few days?

Postscript: I was able to access OSM and make edits using a proxy.  


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[talk-ph] PNB/Allied Bank Mechanical Edits update

[ianlopez]

Since I wanted other members of the community to give their comments concerning 
the planned mechanical edit [1], I've decided to move it to Wednesday, October 
30. Also, three changesets will be created in Metro Manila instead of one as 
originally planned (one for Manila, one for CAMANAVA, Quezon City, San Juan and 
Marikina, one for Mandaluyong, Pasig, Pasay, Makati, Taguig, Pateros, 
Muntinlupa, Parañaque and Las Piñas). The edits will be done between 12 PM and 
6 PM.


I'm aware that some branches will be closed because of the branch relocations 
connected to the merger. It is up to the users in the area to check if the 
affected branches are closed or relocated and edit the map to reflect such 
changes.



[1] see 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2013-October/004672.html


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[talk-ph] Allied Bank branches are now PNB branches (planned mechanical edit)

[ianlopez]

A few days ago, I noticed that an Allied Bank branch nearest to my place is now 
a PNB branch. I believe that the changes are part of a plan to integrate 
operations between PNB and Allied Bank after the merger[1].Thus, the need for a 
mechanical edit to make the needed changes.


Affected areas: Places with a (former) Allied Bank branch. Based on an Overpass 
turbo query, there are 123 branches in OpenStreetMap[2] (one branch in 
Tagbilaran, Bohol is now mapped as a PNB branch). 


Planned tagging schema for PNB (formerly Allied Bank) branches:
amenity=bank
name=PNB
operator=Philippine National Bank
old_name=Allied Bank


Optional tags
atm=yes
branch= [name of branch]

How will I edit: I got an OSM data extract of Allied Bank branches in many 
parts of the country via overpass turbo. I intend to create five changesets for 
this edit (one for Visayas and Palawan, one for Mindanao, one for Metro Manila, 
two for Luzon). I also intend to add, change (is_in:*=* to addr:*=*) and remove 
some tags in the process (cmt=*, desc=*, designation=*, sym=* among others)

Planned edit date: October 27, 2013

Feel free to make comments/suggestions concerning my planned mechanical edits 
in this thread.


[1] see merger announcement at 
http://www.pnb.com.ph/images/stories/docs/merger_advisory.pdf (alternate copy 
at 
http://web.archive.org/web/20130730202749/http://pnb.com.ph/images/stories/docs/merger_advisory.pdf
 )
[2] http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1jB


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Re: [talk-ph] New imagery from Bing 2013-09

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Areas with updated aerial images:
* Angeles/Clark, Pampanga
* Tarlac City
* Urdaneta, Pangasinan
* Balanga City, Bataan
* Baguio City

Areas now covered by aerial images:
* Atimonan, Quezon
* Polillo Island
* extreme western Masbate

 
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 From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com
To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com 
Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] New imagery from Bing 2013-09
 


About a week ago, the cloud cover on bing in Antipolo and Taytay was finally 
gone (after years of waiting). busy retracing :-) 

(images were estimated taken 2012)




On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com 
wrote:

http://www.bing.com/blogs/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2013/09/06/bing-maps-publishes-13-million-square-kilometers-of-imagery.aspx

Check your areas, report them here.

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Re: [talk-ph] Mapbox Satellite has highres fro PH

[ianlopez]

Some observations regarding Mapbox Satellite highres images:

Partial list of areas covered

1. Quezon: Patnanungan and other nearby islands, Tagkawayan, 
Tiaong, Lucena, Mauban, Tayabas, Atimonan, western and eastern portions of 
Alabat Island, Cabalete Island

2. Camarines Norte: Paracale

3. Camarines Sur: Naga, Caramoan

4. Albay: Legaspi

5. Sorsogon: Donsol

6. Laguna: other areas covered by Bing imagery + Santa Maria, Mabitac, 
Famy, Sinilioan
7. Batangas: Lipa, parts of Laiya, Nasugbu, Mabini, Calaca, Talisay

8. Metro Manila: 100% covered
9. Bataan: 100% covered
10. Antique: Seminara, Sibay, SIbato and Caluya islands
11. Marinduque: Mogpog, Buenavista

12. Aurora: parts of Baler, Dipaculao, Casiguran

13. Oriental Mindoro: Puerto Galer, Calapan, Victoria, Bulalacao

 
Other notes:

* Some areas (Camarines Norte, Camarines Sur, Albay, Cavite, Batangas, 
Quezon, Bataan) are in black and white (a la OrbView-3)
* Jomalig and Balesin islands (Quezon), Boracay (Aklan), Carabao Island 
(Romblon), Balesin are not covered

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 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:42 AM
Subject: [talk-ph] Mapbox Satellite has highres fro PH
 

Check and browse here: http://www.mapbox.com/tour/#section-satellite
I'm not sure how extensive or is it better than Bing in some areas.

Right now, the satellite tiles are available to paid mapbox users, but
OSM users can use the tiles for tracing:

http://support.mapbox.com/discussions/general-questions/9924-using-satellite-images-for-osm-tracing

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[talk-ph] Proposal: Revamping the Metro Manila Road Network relations

[ianlopez]

I posted a proposalto revamp the route relations for selected roads in Metro 
Manilaat 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Metro_Manila/Major_Roads#Tagging_Relations_.28proposed.29.
 Comments and suggestions are more than welcome.

 
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Re: [talk-ph] Tagging Subdivisions

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Recently, I'm inclined towards place=neighbourhood (even though is mot yet 
rendered in OSM Mapnik [yet]).

 
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From: Ervin Malicdem schad...@gmail.com
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: [talk-ph] Tagging Subdivisions

Hi all,

I was checking out openstreetbugs and saw Ian Lopez' comment regarding tagging 
subdivisions to place=locality

Last year, I got an info from Rally De Leon to tag it as place=neighbourhood
http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/j7tUCi4HuC1Vtfc5jXvy#i4HuC1Vtfc5jXvy

Which one should we follow?

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[talk-ph] Planned import: 7-Eleven Branch data (Follow-up)

[ianlopez]

I've decided not to continue the importing process, since the branch data did 
not contain lat/lon coordinates or useable address data.

 
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[talk-ph] dyan888 edits

[ianlopez]

User dyan888 made a lot of edits in the Quezon City area. Unfortunately, s/he 
deleted housenumber information and other POI's in this changeset [1], removed 
a U-turn slot in this changeset [2] and adding info that is already on the map 
[3]. As of now, I'm in the delicate process of undeleting/fixing the affected 
elements (and sending him/her a message regarding his/her edits once I'm done 
with the cleanup).


[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14345871
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14208739
[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1468 - s/he was adding 
nodes for certain establishments that are already represented by polygons 
(example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2059522096/history for 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/99453804/history)


Postscript: I noticed that as s/he tried to change a POI from restaurant to 
bakery, s/he deleted the restaurant POI [4] and added a bakery POI[5].


[4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2076493745/history
[5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2076513726/history

 
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Re: [talk-ph] mapping the EDSA bus bays

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A bus stop is usually identified by a pole, a shelter, a bus bay and/or a 
yellow zigzag line on the street. Fortunately, a bus bay fits the definition 
of a bus stop. It can be tagged as

highway=bus_stop
ref=A (if it is a bus stop for A buses) or ref=B (if it is a bus stop for B 
buses) or ref=C (if it is a bus stop for A and B buses).

More info: The widely used approach is to place bus stop nodes off to one side 
of the highway way, so not with node being part of the way. This easily 
captures the important 
information about which side of the road the bus stop is on. [2] Also, A bus 
stop should be defined for each discrete location where buses 
stop. If there are two places where buses stop on either side of the 
road then two bus stops should be defined. [2]

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop#Definition
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop#Tagging_advice


 
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 From: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:58 PM
Subject: [talk-ph] mapping the EDSA bus bays
 
anyone mapping the new edsa bus bays with labels for bus A and B? will update 
along my route but better if we can complete asap

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[talk-ph] Nine dash line on the map

[ianlopez]

Noticed the persistence of the other side[1], which created the so-called 
nine dash line[2]. He/she made similar edits a few weeks ago, which basically 
deleted our national border[3] (which twain somewhat restored[4]).


I think that we should take this case to the Data working group, since what 
he/she/they are doing is an act tantamount to vandalism.


[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14269095
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-dotted_line

[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14024326

[4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14158931

 
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[talk-ph] Planned import: 7-Eleven Branch data

[ianlopez]

I'm planning to import location data of 7-Eleven branches nationwide in the 
coming weeks. 
Based on a file that I found on the Internet Archive Wayback machine, 
the location master containing the name of its branches and location ID's (and 
other unrelated data)[0] is (presumably) 
licensed under CC BY 3.0 PH. However, I'm not sure of its current 
status. It would be best if we send an email to Philippines Seven 
Corporation regarding this matter.


If imported, a typical 7-Eleven branch will have the following tags:

name=7-Eleven
shop=convenience
opening_hours=24/7
branch=(name of branch in the location master)
ref=(location ID of branch)
source=(to be discussed)

[0] http://web.archive.org/web/20100612175639/http://van.7-eleven.com.ph/
 
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Re: [talk-ph] New bing imagery Batch 9

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(most of) Corregidor and southern Bataan are now covered (though the 
mountainous portions are covered with clouds): 
http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#14.381933,120.592117,14

 
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 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] New bing imagery Batch 9
 
Impasugong, Bukidnon:
http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#8.37384,124.964547,14


On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Found one over Bulacan and Nueva Ecija:

 http://maning.github.com/Imagery_Coverage_Map/#15.40172,121.007194,11

 Perhaps in other areas too, so please check.
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[talk-ph] Powerline edits

[ianlopez]

It seems that yffar has been editing a lot of power lines and 
electricity-related elements[1]. However, he deleted some data[2] and replaced 
it [3]. I'm now at the tedious process of reviving deleted power lines and 
appropriately modifying data created by the said user.


[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/yffar/edits
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31406102/history (see version 7)
[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/148900882/history (see version 18)
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Powerline edits

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Already sent a message to him regarding the power line edits.

 
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 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com 
Cc: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2012 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Powerline edits
 

Dear ian,
Please send a message to yffar as well.
Maning Sambale
On Sep 9, 2012 3:41 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote:

It seems that yffar has been editing a lot of power lines and 
electricity-related elements[1]. However, he deleted some data[2] and replaced 
it [3]. I'm now at the tedious process of reviving deleted power lines and 
appropriately modifying data created by the said user.



[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/yffar/edits
[2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31406102/history (see version 7)
[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/148900882/history (see version 18)
 
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Re: [talk-ph] V.A. Rufino in Makati to become two-way on September 1, 2012

[ianlopez]

highway=secondary
name=V. A. Rufino
oneway=no
parking:lane:both=no_parking [1]

[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane


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 From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
To: OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:36 AM
Subject: [talk-ph] V.A. Rufino in Makati to become two-way on September 1, 2012
 
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=160789627391878

Posting this for mental note.

BTW, there's actually no established workflow for handling this kind
of information in OSM. Any suggestions?

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Re: [talk-ph] Possible Scarborough Shoal edit war?

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I think it's time for us to talk to the established Chinese and Taiwanese 
mappers first and solve this issue. If not, then we should approach the Data 
Working Group.
 

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 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Possible Scarborough Shoal edit war?
 
New edits on Philippine boundaries by chinese mappers(?).  Not sure
whether the characters are indeed chinese.

Google translate output below:
username: Chinese people
changeset comment: Delete the wrong line of Figure

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[talk-ph] Planned mechanical edits - Part 2

[ianlopez]

See 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Ianlopez1115#Central_Luzon_rice_field_tag_fix_.28June_2012.29
 downwards for some of my planned edits. Again, feel free to comment and 
provide suggestions to refine my mechanical edits

 
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Re: [talk-ph] Proposal to delete the imagery coverage outlines from the OSM database

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For as long as the imagery coverage map exists, I see no reason to oppose the 
removal of imagery outlines.

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 From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
To: OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: [talk-ph] Proposal to delete the imagery coverage outlines from the 
OSM database
 
Hi guys,

I propose to delete the imagery coverage outlines that are currently
in the OSM database (most are tagged with the special
outline=imagery tag). Since we already have an imagery coverage
map[1], I think that there's no longer any need to retain these
outlines in the database, especially since they clutter up editing,
are inadvertently joined to streets and roads by users, and they don't
correspond to anything real on the ground and therefore do not really
belong in the database in the first place..

If there's new imagery, we just trace the outlines and then I can take
them and merge them into the coverage map.

What do you think?

[1] http://forge.codedgraphic.com/osm/imagery_coverage/

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Re: [talk-ph] More Bing satellite imagery all over the Philippines!

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There's also new imagery for portions of Calamba (Laguna), Santo Tomas and 
Tanauan (Batangas) [see 
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=14.141729227023987lon=121.14195632934573zoom=14
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 From: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
To: talk-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] More Bing satellite imagery all over the Philippines!
 

add Vigan, Ilocos Sur to that list at long last...will edit it later 
will also map dipolog and dapitan in zamnorte


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

## Edited subject; was More Bing satellite imagery in Mindanao! ##

It's official, 2012 will be the busiest year for OpenStreetMap Philippines 
ever!

Here's more new imagery in Luzon and Visayas:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149165288 - Palawan: Busuanga,
Coron, Culion
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149165286 - Palawan: Busuanga, Coron
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149165283 - Masbate, Panay,
Negros, Cebu (Bantayan Island is covered), Bohol
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149165281 - Quezon, Oriental
Mindoro (including Lucena City)
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149165280 - Antique: Semirara Islands
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149165287 - Masbate


By the end of 2012, I'm predicting that the OSM data for the
Philippines will double and that the OSM-PH Garmin map will have 6 or
7 tiles. :)



On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh my! There's a LOT of new imagery in Mindanao.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157752 - Bukidnon and North 
 Cotabato
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157751 - Maguindanao to Sarangani
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157747 - Sarangani
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157746 - Zamboanga Sibugay
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157745 - Zamboanga del Sur
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157741 - Camiguin to Bukidnon
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157739 - Zamboanga del Norte
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149157736 - Zamboanga del
 Norte, del Sur, Sibugay

 It seems Microsoft went on a satellite imagery shopping spree! :D

 There's also new imagery covering General Santos City all the way to
 Davao del Sur. I haven't traced the outline yet.



 On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi guys,

 While I was fixing a riverbank in Cotabato City, I ran into some new
 Bing satellite imagery! And there are 3 separate sets of them!

 1. Here's the outline around Cotabato City:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149145097

 2. Here's the outline along the western coast of Central Mindanao:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149145096

 3. Here's the outline covering eastern Misamis Occidental and western
 Lanao del Norte: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/149145093

 I haven't checked out the exact age of the imagery but how new? Well,
 the imagery in Cotabato City shows the construction site of the Sultan
 Haji Hassanal Bolkiah Masjid, which is the Philippines' largest
 mosque. Google Maps' satellite imagery of Cotabato is older.
 http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=7.202384981217136lon=124.16533061457808zoom=20

 I'll try to look for more new imagery. :-)



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Re: [talk-ph] status of re-mapping Zambales

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Before anyone tries to remap the area, please check first who added the name/s 
first. If an agreer adds the name, add it. If not, remove it and let a local 
or nearby mapper or someone who recently traveled to the area re-add the names.

 
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 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: [talk-ph] status of re-mapping Zambales
 
Dear everyone,

Just an FYI that I am remapping sections of Zambales [0].  Most of the
V1 edits were made by a non-agreer.  I tried several times to contact
this user (hellodeck), but I got no response so I consider his/her
contributions fair game and can be removed and then remapped.

So far I was able to finish several towns and also made further
improvements [1, Zambales section].  The initial towns were easy to
remap because most roads are V1 edits without names.  I'm now moving
my way to Olongapo and Subic Freeport Zone.  This part will be harder
to remap since some roads have names added by other users.  These
names will be removed because the original ways were tainted.

I am sending this appeal to everyone if in case you added road names,
please remap that section by removing the original nodes/ways and then
add new nodes/ways including the road names.  I will get back to this
section of Zambales in a few weeks and start re-mapping, I apologize
in advance to those who have edited this area in case you find your
contributions removed and replaced by new data.

[0] 
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfelon=120.23582lat=14.95268zoom=11overlays=overview,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/remapping#Areas
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Re: [talk-ph] mapper in CDO?

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http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/etana - his/her latest edit was 6 months ago 
(presumably from the Cagayan de Oro area)

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/map00walker - his/her latest edit was last 
Saturday (presumably based in Germany, made a few recent edits in the Cagayn de 
Oro area)

 
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To: waypointsdo...@yahoogroups.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:25 AM
Subject: [talk-ph] mapper in CDO?
 

Do we have a mapper here in Cagayan De Oro City? I'm here for a coverage and 
might need some help navigating. Thanks!

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Re: [talk-ph] (no subject)

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Already changed it. A family member accidentally opened a suspicious email at 
6-ish AM.

My apologies if any member of the mailing list was affected by my malicious 
posting.

 
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From: Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] (no subject)

Which of course is spam ... Ian, you might want to change your Yahoo password. 

Jim

ianlopez wrote, On Saturday, 05 November, 2011 06:28 AM:
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[talk-ph] (partial) Overhaul of OSM Wiki pages

[ianlopez]

Maybe it's time to make some changes in various wiki pages under WikiProject 
Philippines. For example, adding templates to mapping party pages (proposed 
template at 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ianlopez1115/Templates/PHMappingParties 
) or (re)organizing mapping status pages.

 

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Re: [talk-ph] mega-micro-detail or even coverage?

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The best initial unit for the proposed tiers would be provincial or legislative 
boundaries for rural areas and city/municipal or even barangay boundaries for 
urban areas.

 
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From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
To: ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com
Cc: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] mega-micro-detail or even coverage?

Eugene also defined level's of detail here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Geodata_detail_levels

I'm interested in visualizing this kind of metric.  What would be the
best initial unit? A municipal boundary? a square grid? etc?

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 4:47 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm also guilty of that.
 Admissions aside, I think that we should have a tier/level for a more even
 coverage
 Tier/Level 1: Major highways, large rivers
 Tier/Level 2: Minor highways, enclosed waterways (lakes, lagoons)
 Tier/Level 3: Buildings, landuse, small rivers and streams
 Tier/Level 4: POI's (amenities and shops)
 Tier/Level 5: Picnic tables, individual trees, wastebaskets, lamp posts

 Example: If one mapper in a certain area maps at least 60-70% of elements
 needed in Tier/Level1, he can go on to mapping 60-70% of elements needed in
 Tier/Level 2, and so on. It doesn't mean that  everyone has to follow it,
 but at least we have some guide/idea on what to map first.

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 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:15 PM
 Subject: [talk-ph] mega-micro-detail or even coverage?

 Hi,

 A very interesting talk by Harry Wood last SOTM2011 (I was on the
 other room presenting State of the PH during that time).  Blog and
 link to videos and slides here:
 http://www.harrywood.co.uk/blog/2011/10/10/sotm-talk/

 The main message is that while some areas are getting enormous level
 of detail the coverage seems to be very uneven (slides 43 onwards).  I
 think this is happening in some areas in the Philippine map.
 Some mappers are doing micro-detail mapping (I'm guilty myself) while
 in other places, data is barely updated if updated at all.
 Micro-detail mapping is good but it is very difficult for new mapper s
 to contribute to these areas leaving the impression that is is already
 complete.

 Should we go for detail or even coverage?  Where do we draw the line?

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Re: [talk-ph] fishfarm and ricefield in the name tag

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Maybe we should introduce farm:crops=* or farm:animals=* [Based on/modified 
from the landuse=farm talk page]

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From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: [talk-ph] fishfarm and ricefield in the name tag
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 3:20 PM

http://osm.org/go/4zOi@TNM-

I don't think adding the ricefield/fishfarm in the name tag is
necessary, perhaps in another tag?

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[talk-ph] malabon and bulacan no longer flooded

[ianlopez]

Changeset ID: 1522984
Cause of flooding: unclosed polygons
Time spent editing: approximately 3 hours
Time spent uploading the changeset: less than 13 minutes

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Re: [talk-ph] Planned skillshare event in San Pablo City

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Not-so-good news: No one came. 
Good news: I made an analysis on how to host and conduct an OpenStreetMap 
meetup. Will post it in my blog within this week.

I'll schedule another meetup [tentative date: September 10]. Not sure if it 
will be held in the same location as the August 8 meetup.

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--- On Mon, 8/8/11, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Planned skillshare event in San Pablo City
To: ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, August 8, 2011, 7:34 PM

Kumusta? Natuloy ba? Who joined the skillshare?

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:42 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote:










After a few days of deep thought, I've decided to organize an OSM Skillshare 
Event in San Pablo
 City. It will happen on July 23, 2011. I've thought of two possible locations 
for the event: SM City San Pablo and Figaro Coffee in Ultimart.

This is my first time to host an OpenStreetMap-related event. I also need 
pointers and best practices in organizing a skillshare event.



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Re: [talk-ph] Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge

[ianlopez]

According to an ad placed on the Philippine Star (Saturday, Feb 12, 2011, Pages 
E2 - E-3), the road connecting the Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge is supposedly the 
northern/eastern limit of Acqua Private Residences. Plus, Coronado Street is 
supposed to be extended until it approaches the bridge.[1] According to the ad, 
it is located across Rockwell (at the other side of the Pasig River)

[1] http://ianlopez1115.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/estrella-pantaleon.jpg ; 
compare with http://osm.org/go/4zhHSBK5Q--

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--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Wayne Manuel wrote:
According to the news, the Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge is now open. 
Could anyone check how it connects to Pantaleon? It's still under construction 
on OpenStreetMap.

New bridge connecting Makati, 
Mandaluyong opened02/13/2011 | 11:38 AM 


The travel from Makati to Mandaluyong and vice versa will now become faster 
with the opening of a new bridge connecting the two Metro Manila cities over 
the weekend.


The 676-lineal meter Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge is part of the government's 
effort to de-congest traffic in Metro Manila, the Department of Public Works 
and Highways (DPWH) said in a statement.

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/212896/new-bridge-connecting-makati-mandaluyong-opened

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Re: [talk-ph] calamba-sta cruz famy junction road?

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I am primarily responsible for renaming a stretch of road between Calamba and 
Pila as the Calamba - Santa Cruz - Famy Junction Road. I based it on online 
documents from the Department of Budget and Management and/or the Department of 
Public Works and Highways[1]. I support the motion that the stretch of road 
from Famy to Victoria be renamed as the Manila East Road. However, I'm not in 
favor in temporarily renaming the remaining stretch (Pila - Calamba) as the 
National Highway, pending the confirmation from local and/or national 
authorities confirming/verifying the name of that road - for now.

However, there is an item on page 15 (same document mentioned by Rally), 
describing a portion of the soon-to-be renamed road (on OSM) as the 
Calamba-Los Baños-Bay Diversion Road [2]

[1] http://www.dbm.gov.ph/Details2010/DPWH/DPWH.pdf
[2] it is also mentioned in a tweet from MERALCO re: Maintenance - 
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6g53u3

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--- On Tue, 2/8/11, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] calamba-sta cruz famy junction road?
To: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
Cc: talk-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 7:41 PM

On Item No. 9 (page 3) of Senate Bill 740 (as proposed by Manuel Villar) dated 
June 30, 2004
it describes MANILA EAST ROAD as 
(Cainta-Taytay-Angono-Binangonan-Morong-Cardona-Famy-Victoria Road)

http://www.senate.gov.ph/lisdata/19301337!.pdf


If Villar's researchers (for this senate bill) were correct, then it is safe to 
say that M.E.R. includes Ortigas Ave Extension (as I originally suspected, 
basing on a construction signboard by DPWH I saw last year), and it extends up 
to Victoria, Laguna. The rest of the road back to the City of Calamba can 
temporarily be known as National Highway (until after we know the official name)





On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 5:33 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com 
wrote:

this always bugs me whenever i pass by calamba going home from calamba 
crossing, the road's tagged as calamba-sta cruz famy junction road(famy is 
quite far away)
if you ask locals and see addresses printed on business establishments 
signages, it just says

national highway...even locals in Paete call it National Highway and Manila 
East Road doesn't ring a bell (though it's really MER)
this is from calamba to Pila...in Pila it's changed to Manila East Road...not 
sure where MER ends

but can I change it to National Highway? After Crossing, it's tagged as such to 
Cabuyao, Binan and San Pedro.How about tagging it as Provincial Highway though 
it's really a national road?



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Re: [talk-ph] editing admin boundaries of Marikina

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The tags on the relations are okay, but there are some stray/unused relations 
lying around in the area. Other than those issues (and the Tanong-Dela Pena 
boundaries), I can proudly say that the boundary relations for the Marikina 
barangays are complete.

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--- On Fri, 10/15/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] editing admin boundaries of Marikina
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 4:16 PM

I finally updated the barangay boundaries of Markina to cover all the
other barangay.  To all boundary relation experts, please have a look.
 I'm not very sure if I properly tagged the relations.  The Tanong and
De la Pena bnds have some conflicts.  I will verify the actual
boundaries with the LGU.



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[talk-ph] OpenStreetMap mentioned in the Philippine Star's Lifestyle section

[ianlopez]

Quote: MyTravelPhilippines Offline is 100 percent Internet-free. I chucked the 
whole dataset of OSM or OpenStreetMap for the Philippines into the 
database. 

Source: 
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=619712publicationSubCategoryId=79

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Re: [talk-ph] Cavite Mapping Party - September 11, 2010

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Will promote it on my blog. (BTW, someone has to promote it on Skyccraper City)

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--- On Sat, 9/4/10, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote:

From: Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com
Subject: [talk-ph] Cavite Mapping Party - September 11, 2010
To: OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 1:49 PM

 So a week to go, I know there's a planning page, but I get the feeling nothing 
is going on if its not posted in some feed, blog, or mailing listing recently :)

So what do we need to be ready for the mapping party?

Any ideas for a final location?

Regards,

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[talk-ph] LR-7 speaks up

[ianlopez]

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/LR-7/diary/11232

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 24, Issue 4

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The nearest mapper in the Davao-Samal Island area is Marloue/Murlwe. You can 
contact him via email (see the cc list).

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--- On Sun, 7/4/10, Frank Woolf fr...@frankwoolf.com wrote:

From: Frank Woolf fr...@frankwoolf.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 24, Issue 4
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 7:47 PM

I have been concentrating on Samal Island in the Davao Gulf just offshore from 
Davao City and have done a few farm roads around Davao on the mainland.  Samal 
Island only had a few roads on the map but I have been able to add most of the 
existing roads.  Most is dirt track roads - even the main highways so I do most 
by driving my old Land Cruiser and using the tracks from the GPS.

I do have a problem that maybe somebody can help me with.  Access to Samal 
Island with a vehicle is via vehicular ferry. I have tried may ways to define 
the ferry route but no matter what I do the GPS will not navigate if I select a 
destination that includes crossing from the mainland to the island or visa 
versa.  Can anyone suggest what to do?

I have been in Hong Kong for a few weeks but hope to get back to Davao in a 
week or two and continue with the map.


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 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 To: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?
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 I can load it in my public dropbox.
 
 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 Once we are done with the large islands, the next step is to do the smaller
 islands. Ian Haylock has helpfully provided the PGS coastlines[1] for the
 Philippines last year[2] which he edited to combine ways. PGS itself was
 automatically generated by a software by analyzing the Landsat imagery.
 Unfortunately, Ian's file was hosted on a free file server and has now
 expired but I think several people on the mailing list managed to download
 it.
 
 I tried opening the file last year in Merkaartor but my old laptop couldn't
 handle the data. Now that I have a 4GB-RAM laptop, loading the data into
 Merkaartor is very manageable. Using the PGS coastlines is much, much easier
 than tracing Landsat by hand. I tried this with Homonhon Island and editing
 is way faster than actually uploading it[3]. Hehehe. What I did was to
 delete the SRTM-derived coastline[4] and replace it with the PGS
 coastline[5].
 
 I think uploading the PGS coastlines is better for the smaller islands. I'll
 see what we can do to have the PGS coastlines (55MB) uploaded somewhere.
 
 [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Prototype_Global_Shoreline
 [2] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-June/001071.html
 [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5129873
 [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4327906
 [5] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/65592780
 
 Eugene
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 UPDATE. Only two islands from the top ten need some coasty coastline love.
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections
 
 Anyone working on Negros and Mainland Mindanao?
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22

[ianlopez]

I've suggested other areas that are close enough but not too far from the 
Ortigas area

1. EDSA-Pioneer-Boni Avenue intersection: 
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57255lon=121.0472layers=0BTF 
There are new developments in the area, specifically in the Pioneer side 
(Robinsons Cybergate, Light Residences, Pioneer Woodlands)
2. Area between Boni-Pionner intersection and Kapitolyo: 
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57297lon=121.05339layers=0BTF
The streets are complete, but it lacks POI's, buildings and landuse.

Maybe one of us should hand out OSM fliers to passers-by [if they're 
interested] ( 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSM-PH_Flyer_2010-03-19.pdf )


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--- On Sat, 5/15/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
Subject: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in
 Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22
To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Saturday, May 15, 2010, 10:22 AM

Hi guys,

I really don't think we could push through with the Corregidor Mapping Party. 
Planning was mostly nonexistent and I don't think many people are willing to 
spend a large
 amount of money for the ferry trip and the possible overnight stay in the 
hotel on Corregidor. Let's postpone that island for a while.


In the meantime, I suggest we tackle parts of Metro Manila that are still 
incomplete:

1. Mandaluyong-Shaw area: 
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.58246lon=121.04721layers=B0TF

This area of Mandaluyong is still missing a lot of streets because they are 
covered by clouds in the Yahoo satellite imagery.

2. Ortigas CBD: 
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.58448lon=121.05964layers=B0TF

In contrast to the Makati CBD, Ortigas is still pretty blank in its building 
coverage.

3. Metrowalk-Ortigas Home Depot: 
http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.58647lon=121.06578layers=B0TF

Yahoo's satellite imagery in this area predates the large retail construction 
here so it would be nice if we can map this new development.


One nice thing about this is that these three areas are near each other and 
since this is Ortigas, meeting up would be easier.


And after the on-the-field surveying, let's meet up after and have that newbies 
tutorial session that Carlos suggested.

What do you guys think? :-)

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Re: [talk-ph] paete handicraft stores and art galleries

[ianlopez]

I've been to Paete approximately same time last year (but not in that area). 
Sure, you can add those things on the map. For roads that aren't submerged at 
the time of your trip, here are my suggested tags:

Foot only - highway=footway; foot=yes
Foot and bicycle (with and without side car) - highway=cycleway
Foot, bicycle and motorcycle (without side car) - highway=pedestrian
Foot, bicycle, and motorcycle (with side car) - highway=living_street
Passable by car - highway=residential

For access restrictions, go to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

I also made a few tweaks in the area, per my observations in the area (Paete 
Poblacion)

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--- On Wed, 4/7/10, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote:
snip and clarify(?)
Wawa park was submerged by Pepeng last year 'til around december...and
so were areas beyond the highway (Manila East Road...even parts of the
highway between Paete and Pakil was submerged) as well as other
communities around the lake for months. there's a children's
playground, basketball court, monuments and other structures. Can I
add that? it's like a 1.6 lane road? A car and tricycle can pass on the
narrow concrete road, streets of Paete are like that so I will add the
navigable roads only.
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Re: [talk-ph] First case of removing tainted data

[ianlopez]

Just to verify - should I add note=illegal data import on first changeset, 
then delete on the next? (This is like playing minesweeper - if you delete the 
data that wasn't part of the tainted changesets, game over)


--- On Tue, 4/6/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: First case of removing tainted data
To: ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com
Cc: Anthony G. Balico anthony.bal...@gmail.com, Eugene Alvin Villar 
sea...@gmail.com, OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 8:04 PM

If you are going to proceed, I recommend following these steps, so
that revertion would be minimized:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Maning/copyright_detection_notes#Removing_.22tainted.22_data

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:42 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm planning to remove some tainted data in the area that was mentioned by 
 Anthony a couple of emails back. ( 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.94963lon=120.08165zoom=15layers=B000FTFT
  ) However, I need your explicit approval before I can do this. (Not only 
 that, I have to deal with those edits from Olongapo to Iba, Balanga and in 
 Western Cavite).

 @Anthony: Have you uploaded the traces in the area? (And make sure that those 
 traces are yours. By the way, the Mindanao Avenue tunnel is going to open in 
 45-70 days time, and when it opens, switch it to highway=construction to 
 highway=primary ASAP)





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Re: [talk-ph] u-turn slots

[ianlopez]

(optional)name=U-Turn
highway=*_link (since Quezon Avenue is a primary road, primary_link)
maxspeed=40
lanes=(1 or 2)
don't forget the corresponding oneway direction

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--- On Wed, 4/7/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] u-turn slots
To: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com, osm-ph 
talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 10:50 AM

To add a new way:
1. Click the way you want to edit (i.e Quezon Ave.)
2. Shift-Click to add a point.
3. Double-click the point to add a new way then connect to the other
Quezon ave way.
4. Add proper tags.

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:36 AM, tutubi
tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote:
 hi maning,

 I'm trying to learn how to add u-turn slots in Potlatch but I just
 keep on dragging the ways. i want to add a few on Quezon avenue around
 araneta. I will also add turn restrictions there as the junction is
 just pass-through and use of u-turn slots required. same is true for
 Mindanao Avenue and Congressional, all in QC

 another one that needs a turn restriction is the no left turn from
 Pioneer street to Madison st in Mandaluyong

I don't know how to add turn restriction relations in Potlatch.


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Re: [talk-ph] Can any body help MTBBCD ?

[ianlopez]

So, did any of you guys contacted him? I'll try to message him later.

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--- On Mon, 4/5/10, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Totor totor_...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Can any body help MTBBCD ?
To: Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com, maning sambale 
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 8:20 AM

MTBBCD is using Potatch. The deleted roads are probably the cause of the red 
lines.
Thanks,

Totor

--- On Sun, 4/4/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Can any body help MTBBCD ?
 To: Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
 Cc: totor_...@yahoo.com, talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: Sunday, April 4, 2010, 2:01 PM
 In potlatch,
 
 click 'U' to show deleted ways, and optionally undelete
 them.
 
 
 On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
 wrote:
  Totor,
 
  Let me do it, how? Refer me to him/her since I'm using
 JOSM. I recently
  uploaded CDO-Davao GPX traces via JOSM.
 
  Best,
 
  murlwe
 
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 From: Totor [totor_...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: 4/4/2010 7:53:53 AM
 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Can any body help MTBBCD ?
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 Can anybody please help user MTBBCD.
 He/she is using JOSM and has troubles with a red
 line.
 I'm not using JOSM, and do not understand
 Tagalog...
 (and unfortunately Google translations are not that
 good)
 Please correct my answer if needed:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MTBBCD/diary/10177
 
 I think it would be better to reply in Tagalog.
 
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[talk-ph] Is this a bad sign for OSM-PH? (or just a very disgruntled user)

[ianlopez]

www.openstreetmap.org/user/MTBBCD/diary/10177

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Re: [talk-ph] Is this a bad sign for OSM-PH? (or just a very disgruntled user)

[ianlopez]

probably an editing dispute

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--- On Sat, 4/3/10, Bart Bartolome linuxbast...@paglalakbay.com wrote:

From: Bart Bartolome linuxbast...@paglalakbay.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Is this a bad sign for OSM-PH? (or just a very 
disgruntled user)
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 9:24 AM

that was strange?

what was that about?

On Saturday, 03 April, 2010 08:19 AM, ianlopez wrote:
 www.openstreetmap.org/user/MTBBCD/diary/10177

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Re: [talk-ph] Anyone doing turn restriction relations?

[ianlopez]

I added some turn restrictions between McKinley and 5th Avenue last January ( 
http://osm.org/go/4z...@rd ) , and some in my home city (M. Paulino area) and 
in Lucena 

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--- On Thu, 3/18/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: [talk-ph] Anyone doing turn restriction relations?
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 3:45 PM

OSM has a schema outlined for creating turn restrictions:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction

I corrected and added a few here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4159107

no_left_tern restrictions are implemented along the Ayala-Gil Puyat
intersection.  Please add more for major roads.

Disclosure: osm-ph gps garmin maps understand turn restrictions and
thus better routing.
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Re: [talk-ph] Kalayaan Group of Islands boundary

[ianlopez]

Thee is a chance that a possible edit war *could* happen, but it would be best 
if the editors from the other countries add the claims of their home countries 
(within the Spratlys). The downside to it is that it can be confusing due to 
overlapping claims. At least it's better than a possible revert-remove other 
claims-add own claims edit war.

BTW, I was planning to extend the boundary to the Scarborough Shoal (which is 
considered as part of Philippine territory due to geographical proximity, 
clamied by China due to its historical importance) and Island of Palmas area 
(not part of Philippine territory per a decision of the Permanent Court of 
Arbitration in 1928), but I think that that's too much (for now). And it's more 
clear that Sabah and the Palmas area are no longer parts of Philippine 
territory (in my opinion).

PS: I could add a boundary (with admin_level=6) around the islands in the 
Spratlys that are controlled by the Philippines, since Kalayaan is al 
municipality in Palawan.

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--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
Subject: [talk-ph] Kalayaan Group of Islands boundary
To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 11:41 PM

Ian has started adding the US-Spain-UK border treaty limits around the 
Sabah-Spratly Islands area: http://osm.org/go/4lauR

Do you think this would invite edit wars from other OSMers in countries that 
also claim some or all of the Spratlys?


In addition (warning: geeky), the border treaty limits were stated via 
geographic coordinates but in an unspecified geographic datum. Do you think 
these are applicable to the WGS84 datum we are using?



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Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers

[ianlopez]

Health centers should be tagged, either as a public building or as a doctor's 
clinic. Boticas owned/operated by barangay can be tagged as a pharmacy. 
Barangay police outposts can be tagged either as a public building or as a 
police station.

(Just a question: Is it OK to add Comelec/PNP Gun Ban checkpoints? We could be 
accused of encouraging some people to evade checkpoints and allow some of them 
to pack some heat and add more bodies to the count - see 
http://mashable.com/2009/12/31/drunken-drivers-evade-the-cops-with-twitter/ and 
http://mashable.com/2010/02/03/los-twitteros/ )

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--- On Mon, 3/15/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:05 PM

I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each barangay in
Marikina has a separate health center, botika (pharmacy) and police
precincts, usually located within the barangay hall complex but
separate from other barangay amenities. Nice.
Question: What tag for barangay health centers?  Which is not really a
hospital or doctor/s.

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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: some errata on OSM

[ianlopez]

The tunnel should be tagged as highway=construction; construction=primary.

Regarding Granada, it is either a two-way road or a one way road heading 
northboun). I've passed through Doña Hemady, and it is a one way road heading 
northbound.

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--- On Mon, 3/8/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: some errata on OSM
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 9:55 AM

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From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: some errata on OSM
To: tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com


tutubi,

I'll try to explain a few things re: editing in potlatch.  I'm also
forwarding this to the list so that others can chime in.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:38 AM, tutubi
tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote:

 granada st (or is it gilmore) in new manila is a one-way street (my
 unit wanted me to drive ahead but it's a familiar route to me). I
 usually turn right to N Domingo then right to Hemady all the way to E.
 Rodriguez, then left to Morato, left to Roces (the end of Roces from
 Panay Avenue and Quezon Blvd is now a two-way street, a quite recent
 change)
If the road is already a oneway, there should be a tag oneway=yes.  To
change the way direction, select the road and click the little arrow
on the left corner.  The arrow direction should be the same as the
oneway direction.

 going home on baler st, directed me to turn left to Roosevelt, it
 should be right for i live
 near Munoz (probably a routing issue).

Not sure how to edit this, I'm not familiar in that area.

 Kingston St in Novaliches with intersecting Quirino Highway should
 be Kingspoint St
Simply correct the name tag.

 Quirino highway, to get to Mindanao Avenue should turn right, U-turn
 due to the construction
 of the underpass and the NLEX connection due to be finished soon

 the road going to Manila Memorial Holy Cross is named E. Dela Cruz, to
 be updated, and the routing there wanted me to take a sidetreet to
 Katupunan (don't know where that street is).

If this doesn't exist, delete it.  Or perhaps this is a footway and
not passable by car?  I suggest you hunt this street to verify. :)

 I'll try to correct these things later when I have time as well as
 learn how to do them myself. I need to learn how to tag a road as
 one-way and also road as alley.
For roads use primarily for foot traffic, you can tag it as
highway=footway or highway=pedestrian

PS. Reports like this is very useful in improving the data. Salamat!


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[talk-ph] Is this spam? (boracay)

[ianlopez]

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Boracay%20Residences/edits

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[talk-ph] Adding content on the OSM Philippines Blog

[ianlopez]

I think that the OpenStreetMap Philippines blog needs more content, and it 
needs to be tweaked. The about text on the right side of displays the default 
text (the Lorem ipsum one), while the about page is still in default.

What the OSM.PH blog needs is content. Especially HOWTOs that aren't covered 
(yet) by the OSM Wiki. I recently added a rough guide on which sites can be 
placed on key:website or website=* here ( 
http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/limits-on-key-website/ ), and I'm 
planning to write a guide on getting (useful) data from phone booths and how to 
add it on OSM.

For those who may not know the site, it is at http://openstreetmap.org.ph/blog/

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Re: [talk-ph] Request for revertion. (Was: Fwd: Bacolod)

[ianlopez]

I'll be reverting/removing some edits in a while. I'll try not to be a carabao 
in an antique shop (meaning I'll try not to screw up other edits)


--- On Sat, 2/27/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Request for revertion. (Was: Fwd: Bacolod)
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 2:55 PM

I suggest we wait for the sysadmins for a while.

They have revert scripts:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Revert_scripts

We can do this as well, but with great power comes great
responsibility. :))  Which I am (personally) reluctant to take on at
the moment.


On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:48 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Maybe we should edit Bacolod ASAP and delete/revert edits attributed to him. 
 Be careful when reverting, as previously encoded information may be 
 accidentally removed.




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[talk-ph] New mapping hotspot

[ianlopez]

Saw some edits in BASECO area ( http://osm.org/go/4zhQIEZzd- ), by ppaar (a new 
user -  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ppaar ). Mapping looks impressive - 
needs a bit more landuse tags. Can someone invite him/her to the mailing list?

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Re: [talk-ph] changes of road types

[ianlopez]

Maybe we should describe unclassified roads in the Philippine context as roads 
within verified and/or urban areas that are of mixed use (commercial, retail, 
industrial, residential, farmland), while the residential roads can be 
described as a road in either urban or rural areas that are within areas that 
are classified as mostly residential. The road tag can be used for roads that 
have no actual road types, as proposed/planned.

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--- On Fri, 1/22/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] changes of raod types
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 7:49 PM

Hi,

With the advent of more sat images outside Metro Manila I would like
to re-visit this discussion regarding road classes in rural areas.
As Eugene discussed below, rural roads are different.  I think we
should use the track and tracktype tags for most rural roads.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype

As for highway=unclassified, I don't see this of much use in the
Philippines.  Unclassified is a legal UK road type and not some road
we don't know the proper class.

Unclassified
No administrative classification. Unclassified roads typically form
the lowest form of the interconnecting grid network.
Note: This is not a marker for roads where we still need to choose a
highway tag (see highway=road for roads that require classification).


For people tracing from sat images but are unsure of the actual road
type please use highway=road

For comments.

cheers,
maning

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suggest that the tags for 
 highway=trunk,primary,secondary,tertiary,unclassified be considered as a 
 function of traffic patterns and not of DOTC designation nor physical 
 appearance or condition.

 These values should also be considered relative to local traffic patterns. 
 This means that levels will be different in an urban and rural setting: a 
 trunk in Metro Manila does not have to be equivalent in function to a trunk 
 in Nueva Vizcaya.

 Here are some descriptive interpretations I might suggest (subject to 
 discussion):

 trunk (rural) : long-distance route to traverse across provinces
 primary (rural) : mid-distance route to travel between towns in a province
 secondary (rural) : major streets within rural towns
 tertiary (rural) : major streets within areas of rural towns
 unclassified,residential (rural) : other roads in rural towns

 trunk (urban) : long-distance route across the metropolis
 primary (urban) : major road within a metropolitan city
 secondary (urban) : mid-level road within a metropolitan city
 tertiary (urban) : minor road in a metropolitan city
 unclassified,residential (urban) : other roads in metropolitan cities


 I'll admit that I have no fixed idea as to how to tag roads such that 
 relative functional importance within Metro Manila (Cebu, Davao) is 
 consistent when you get outside Metro Manila (Cebu, Davao).

 The problem is that in urban areas, the road density is so high such that we 
 need to differentiate the roads a lot, whereas in rural areas, the density is 
 low.

 For Metro Manila, EDSA and *parts* of C-5 are definitely trunk. Commonwealth, 
 Quirino (QC) and McArthur Highway are arguably trunk. Quezon Avenue-Espana, 
 Aurora-Marcos Highway, Ortigas-Ortigas Ext., Quirino (Manila), and Roxas Blvd 
 are not so clear.

 What do you guys think?


 On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:22 AM, anthony.bal...@neraphil.com.ph wrote:

 Pardon my ignorance, but how do you classify road types?

 In the case of Mindanao Ave compared to Quirino Highway, apparently the 
 former is a wider road so i reclassified the.


 Anthony




 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: 08/03/2009 10:06 AM
 Subject: [talk-ph] changes of raod types
 


 I'm not objecting but I'm somehow curious about recent
 reclassifications of several major roads lately:

 1.  Portions of Commonwealth from trunk to primary:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.66209lon=121.06976zoom=15layers=B000FTF

 2. Mindanao Ave from primary to trunk:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.67085lon=121.03234zoom=15layers=B000FTF

 3.  Some parts of Quirino are either primary or trunk:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.69974lon=121.03273zoom=15layers=B000FTF

 4.  MacArthur Hiway from primary to trunk:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.6755lon=120.982zoom=15layers=B000FTF

 If we follow this trend, then I think Roxas Blvd should also be trunk as 
 well:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.53551lon=121.00028zoom=15layers=B000FTF

 Which means Metro Manila roads will be a whole lot 

Re: [talk-ph] correct tag for subdivisions

[ianlopez]

If it's large enough, like Corinthian Gardens, place=hamlet. When it's very 
small to medium-sized, landuse=residential.

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From: Jing Iya jing_...@yahoo.com
Subject: [talk-ph] correct tag for subdivisions
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 9:30 AM

Hi Guys,

What is the correct tag for a subdivision, is it hamlet or village?

Some contributors are using hamlet, while the others are using village.

To be searchable in a Garmin map via POI or City, what are the other tags that 
needs to be added? (e.g. is_in:city etc.)

Sorry for the trouble guys.

Regards,

Jing





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Re: [talk-ph] make the philippines routable

[ianlopez]

Yes, we can join forces. But I'm not familiar with some routes in and around 
the Philippines. We can use keep right (http://keepright.ipax.at/) and OSM 
Inspector (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/) to check for data inconsistencies, 
like duplicate nodes in a way, unconnected ways (or ways that are supposed to 
be connected but aren't connected or improperly connected), etcetera. That way, 
we can achieve our goal: to connect Philippine cities with each other and to 
improve OpenStreetMap's coverage and routability in the Philippines.

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--- On Mon, 12/21/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] make the philippines routable
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 10:38 PM

May I also add, this idea was partly inspired by Eugene's suggestion
to use yournavigation to check for osm routing errors, a while back.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:35 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ianlopez posted an idea of making 25 cities in the Philippine connect
 similar to TIGER fixup/2250 cities.  His post here:
 http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/osm-25-cities-pilipinas/

 A couple of weeks ago, I started testing the routabality of several
 towns in Luzon and fix a few routes already.
 My spreadsheet is here:
 http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Au2WZQ1DwK_xdHdMT0tUUzh5a0lnUkljM1hJTENiRlEhl=en

 This is a very nice 2010 project.  I hope other's can pitch in.

 @ ian, can we join forces? :)
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