Another one moving on...
Hello everyone, I decided to leave the Windows platform, and therefore I'll not be using TheBat any longer (and I want to add that TB indeed was one of the programs which were reason enough to stay with Windows that long). Thanks for all the good time, and see you on TBOT. :-) I will unsubscribe from the TB lists shortly after sending this message, I'll be reachable via PM in case someone wants to finally tell me that all my bugreports suck. ;-) Have a nice day! -- Greetings, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current beta is 3.99.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Again: lost folders in folder-list!
Zitat von Alto Speckhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If only you are affected [...] He is not. However, here it only happens with Virtual Folders - create them, close TheBat, open TheBat - poof, folder vanished into thin air. This is completly reproducable. (As always, this is seen using v3.0.1.33.) The first thing would be to update to the most recent version IMVHO. If you don't want to do that for whatever reason, its of little or no use to complain about bugs. -- Greetings / Grüsse Alexander Kunz Current beta is 3.96.04 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.95.08 - AV when hitting CTRL+R in a VF
Hello Tbbeta, TB has just crashed here when using the Reply function in a VF. Hasn't happened before, hasn't happened again. .- | The Bat! Works with Windows Vista3.95.8 caused exception C005 at address 00AE1020 (Base: 40) | | Registers: | EAX= EBX= ECX=0012FC0C EDX=0044B5B4 ESI=032CB040 | EDI=0012FE28 EBP=0012FBF8 ESP=0012FBD0 EIP=00AE1020 FLAGS=00210246 | CS=001B DS=0023 SS=0023 ES=0023 FS=003B GS= | FPU stack: | 403DCEE0E6D25CD8DEDE | 403DC85CF2C2EECAE8C2 D006BA1E6A38 4127BA1E6A46 | BA1E6A3C86287C10 6A2CBC68A0F802C0 SW=0020 CW=1272 `- -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) He attracted some attention when he found the fourth dimension, But he ain't got no rhythm. So no one's with him, The lonliest man in town. -- Billie Holiday Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Missing section IMAP Finetune in the helpfile
Hello everyone, I recently changed my email account to IMAP, and I found that TB has an extra option in the section Mail Management labelled IMAP finetune, but its not described in the helpfile. I'd like to know what these option do, is there a collected description of these items somewhere? And should I report the missing part of the helpfile in the BT? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The physicists have known sin: and it is a knowledge they cannot lose. -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Tab/ Deleted Begging
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, on 29-Dez-2006 at 22:57 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: Listen to the will of the people! Ignore at your own Risk!!! :)) The tabites are gaining strength! While I enjoy your funny comments, I do think that, in order to bring the idea further, it would be best to file an official wishlist item on the Ritlabs BT where people can add supporting notes. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I am not afraid of tomorrow, for I have seen yesterday, and I love today. -- William Allen White Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Usage of the BT editor
Hello everyone, I've searched the net and the mantisbt homepage but I couldn't find information about the possible commands for the bugtracker editor (maybe I've not been searching hard enough). I know that I can use #bugnumber to directly link to a different bug, but I found it out only by accident. It seems that people are running into this problem quite regularly, especially when referring to other bugs, and (trying) to post URLs (which get broken by the editor at command characters). Is there a *user* documentation somewhere, or could someone post the basics here? I found an (external) mantis-quickstart-generic.pdf but it does not cover the notes editor either. Thanks... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) In order to form an immaculate member of a flock of sheep one must, above all, be a sheep. -- Albert Einstein Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.95.06 MSIs
Hello Mark Partous everyone else, on 27-Dez-2006 at 17:19 you (Mark Partous) wrote: Installed pro intpack. I don't know if this was redundant or not... Yes it is. Yes it is. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I am compelled to fear that science will be used to promote the power of dominant groups rather than to make men happy. (Bertrand Russel) Current beta is 3.95.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Error during sort by...
Hello Daniel Magalski everyone else, on 27-Dez-2006 at 23:09 you (Daniel Magalski) wrote: I have problem with sorting by any column in folder which contains over 2k messages. I have noticed this problem since few months - before there was everything fine or just my folder was smaller ;) Sorry, I can't confirm. No problem here. I can click on any of the column headers and sort the messages just fine. The folder I used contains 2131 messages. Have you tried a folder maintenance? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Psychology lost first it's soul, then it's mind, and then it's consciousness, but it still has behavior of a kind. -- E. G. Boring Current beta is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Address book groups
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, on 25-Dez-2006 at 18:28 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: I am fairly new to The Bat. I think I see what was happening but not sure. Creating a new message seemed to work fine. Did something change with the way the macro works? Macros that work with address headers have always worked like that. They do not overwrite the existing contents of the header, but append to it. It is always the safest to first clear the existing header (e. g. with %TO= as Roelof explained), and then write a new one. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members. -- Groucho Marx Current beta is 3.95.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Address book groups
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, on 25-Dez-2006 at 20:16 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: Fair enough - I used that macro for new messages If you have an address book entry for the list, you don't need to set the TO header additionally. TB will do that anyway when you write a new message to the list address. and removed the macros from reply and forward. Thats ok. :-) Some members of the list (including me:-) prefer to append an on listname to the realname part of the recipient for public messages to the list, and thats where you need to first clear the original TO header and then set it anew. If you notice any problems with my emails please advise - off list if you wish as this thread has gone way off topic :)) Well, you have to take the public teasing if you make an error in public. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Rain by X-Dream from the 1998 compilation Tantrance 7 http://www.discogs.com/release/60423 Current beta is 3.95.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Address book groups
Hello Bob Riley everyone else, on 25-Dez-2006 at 00:10 you (Bob Riley) wrote: I am mystified as to what hide items if not explicitly selected, means. You can think of AB groups as being virtual folders, only for the address book. The AB entries are part of the general address book (and a single entry in the AB), and (maybe) part of one or more AB group(s), too (an AB entry can show up in multiple AB groups). When this option (hide items if not...) is checked, TB does not show entries that belong to an AB group in the general address book (e.g. the default Personal Address Book), but only when you explicitly select the AB group. When the option is NOT checked, TB will show the entries in the general address book, even if they are (also) part of an AB group. FWIW I have unchecked the option for all of my AB groups (it helps me to avoid duplicate entries in the AB with the usual confusion of multiple/wrong templates). That way, when I want a complete overview of all the addresses in my address books, I click on the general address book (Personal Address Book here). Merry christmas to you everyone else, too! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) One of life's mysteries is how a two pound box of candy can make a woman gain five pounds. Current beta is 3.95.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.95.02
Hello NetVicious everyone else, on 22-Dez-2006 at 17:36 you (NetVicious) wrote: I have accound in this server I know I'm configuring one email account for the server I select. I think the term server is misleading. I'd rather use a phrase like I already have an account with of the following email providers. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Why Aye Man by Mark Knopfler from the 2002 release The Ragpicker's Dream Current beta is 3.95.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! 3.95.1 and Voyager 3.86.03 don't work under Win98SE
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 21-Dez-2006 at 21:07 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: I agree they should fix IMAP and Unicode issues, but they should *not* drop support for Win98 - especially for Voyager. I don't know how many systems run Win98 right now worldwide, but I guess it's a lot. Voyager is meant to run on as many Windows machines as possible! So Win98 support is crucial. If you're going to use Voyager from a USB device on Win98 you'll need a driver for the USB device first. :-) TB is way more complex than it used to be. I've nagged about the performance of the newer versions compared to 3.0.x repeatedly. What does it look like on a machine that is 8+ years old, running Win98? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy! -- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859. Current beta is 3.86.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.10
Hello Maxim Masiutin everyone else, on 15-Dez-2006 at 20:11 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: but we had complains that the results of DnsQuery were not resolvable in the server's side. I beg your pardon but, who complained about that? And why did you listen to him/them/her? We're talking about HELO/EHLO and the communication of a simple SMTP *client* (The Bat!) with an SMTP server! I really can't see why and how the SMTP client should and could supply a resolvable name. Expecting that is nonsense, and a server that does a DNS query if the name is not resolvable anyway should be taken out of the hands of such an incapable administrator, I'm sorry... The other thing is that supplying a local ie. non-resolvable IP address doesn't change anything. If the IP or the name is non-resolvable doesn't make a difference, does it? But privacy-wise and security-wise it does make a difference whether the client's local IP address is revealed. So please, put the local name of the client back into the HELO/EHLO process and end this nonsense. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Every thought is a feat of association. -- Robert Frost Current beta is 3.86.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.10
Hello Maxim Masiutin everyone else, on 14-Dez-2006 at 13:10 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: | T 20061214 001304 4576160c EHLO Maria.ermapper-spain.com nslookup Maria.ermapper-spain.com gives can't find Maria.ermapper-spain.com: Non-existent domain Because this name is not globally-resolvable, The Bat! doesn't send it. ...as if the LAN IP that you're using now is resolvable anywhere. :-P Is there a reason to not use the local machine name? I think that disclosing the LAN IP without the need to do so might be considered a security issue by some people. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? -- Groucho Marx Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: When is mouse moved on toolbar in Editor or Finder, window dissappears
Hello Marek Mikus everyone else, on 13-Dez-2006 at 15:31 you (Marek Mikus) wrote: Open editor or Finder and move mouse on toolbar, after a while window dissappears. H, what is a while? I tried this but I wasn't able to reproduce the problem. Do you mean to move the mouse on the toolbar and let it stay there, or move it around all the time? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this. -- Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M Post-It Notepads. Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Google Earth others crashing (Re: The Bat! 3.86.09 BETA)
Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 10-Dez-2006 at 13:38 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: Maybe we should organize a message flurry on Google. Just because they're big doesn't make them right. Yes. And GE4 is still beta and it has bugs. (for example, my profiles are located in D:\Profiles but GE tries to create C:\Profiles instead every time I start it) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Naturally, if I were absolutely alone on this super-highway, if I saw no other cars speeding in either direction, then everything would be much clearer. -- Italo Calvino Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Calls to TheBat
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, on 08-Dez-2006 at 10:38 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: In version 3.86 I could easily send pictures from ACDSEE, ask for it to call the default email program and it would launch a new message in The Bat. This is no longer happening in the current Alpha version. It sometimes brings the bat to the front but no longer generates the message. I use this as an example - it no longer creates messages from windows or windows programs when sending to the default mail client This has already been discussed here, in the thread starting with msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and the resulting bug report is https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6082 It was reported as fixed in 3.86.06 in the notes of that report, but I still see the problematic behaviour here with .08 - since you're using .08 as well, you should probably add a note to the bug report. NP: Alpha by Vangelis (from the 1976 album Albedo 0.39) ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Missing Mailticker option in VFs
Hello everyone, I'm missing the option to show unread messages in VF's in the Mailticker. I have a VF that contains messages that are to me (in-reply-to contains my domain name). I'd like to see these messages in the Mailticker. Is there already a wish for this (I haven't found anything searching the wishlist for both Virtual and Ticker), and if not, would someone support it? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Portal by Essential Trip (from the 2003 compilation Peace Therapy) Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Cannot send smtp
Hello Wolffe everyone else, on 04-Dez-2006 at 23:52 you (Wolffe) wrote: Both 07 and 08 failed. Am back to 06 again. Below is a log extract for both a good and a failure, trimmed and cleaned for brevity: good connection: [17:38:20] C: EHLO CRICKET no connection: [17:42:53] C: EHLO localhost A lot of ISPs are blocking the connection if the sending SMTP client is sending a HELO of localhost, friend, 127.0.0.1, etc. because they are a typical identifier for botnet zombies. I just verified this. TB is sending EHLO localhost here as well. Thats definitely a very bad idea, it should use the machine name (or even better, the identifier for the HELO state should be configurable). I'm glad that my provider doesn't use HELO blocking yet. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6111 Good catch, Wolffe! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world. A pessimist fears that this is true. Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.86.07, Google Earth and IE7
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, on 03-Dez-2006 at 22:14 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: If you try to email from Google Earth you can either choose your default mail application or Gmail. In my case it is The Bat and choosing it will totally blow out Google Earth But gmail is not a local client with MAPI functionality, so TB crashing GE and gmail not crashing it is not a comparison. -- Rick PS the sig delimiter is missing its trailing space :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Love Theme by Vangelis (from the 1982 album Blade Runner) Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.86.07, Google Earth and IE7
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, on 03-Dez-2006 at 22:31 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: The issue was that The Bat crashes when invoked from Google Earth but other clients do not I am fully aware of the initial problem as reported by Ian. Whether or not Google Earth can load Gmail is not an issue here No one can load gmail. Its a web service, not a program. If GE invokes gmail, it has nothing to do with MAPI. You can not compare gmail and TB, thats all. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Tales of the Future by Vangelis (from the 1982 album Blade Runner) Current beta is 3.86.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.86.07, Google Earth and IE7
Hello Ian A. White everyone else, on 02-Dez-2006 at 23:25 you (Ian A. White) wrote: It seems there is an issue with The Bat!, Google Earth and IE7. The setting you're mentioning has nothing to do with IE7 only - its a system setting (with some IE specific things) that you can access thru IE. The same settings can be modified from the Control Panel / Internet Options applet. I've experienced similar things with Picasa, another program from Google. Since it happened in both Picasa and Google Earth I always thought it was a Google issue because I can use the email function of other programs without problems. I never thought it could be a TB issue... maybe it has to do with the MAPI functions of TB though. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Kids get ideas about UFO's where I learned about sex: the tabloids and the sleazy press. -- J. Allen Hynek Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: two Froms in my headers
Hello Richard Wakeford everyone else, on 27-Nov-2006 at 14:43 you (Richard Wakeford) wrote: I did a complete PC reinstall last week and have just done a reinstall of TB! to check but to no avail. If you restored all TB settings it sounds very likely that you restored the faulty setting with it. I'm sure someone here knows where (in the config files or the registry) that bit of configuration is stored so that you can try to replace it with a mint version. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.06 BETA
Hello Maxim Masiutin everyone else, on 21-Nov-2006 at 01:30 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: The Bat! 3.86.06 BETA I can't help it, I notice that the 3.86.x series are feeling slower again both when starting and when quitting the program. Loading the folder list on startup is slower, as well as the folder maintenance on exit... *m* -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Wow by The Infinity Project (from the 1996 compilation Blue Compilation) Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.07 ALPHA - VF Properties
Hello Peter Ouwehand everyone else, on 25-Nov-2006 at 23:15 you (Peter Ouwehand) wrote: The filter section of VF properties doesn't show items like one would expect. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6083 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Words That We Couldn't Say by The Seatbelts (from the 1999 album Blue (Cowboy Bebop TV series OST #3)) Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 24-Nov-2006 at 21:06 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: What should I use for C:\Documents and Settings\Peter\Local Settings? I'm sure there's something like %appdata. Open a CMD window and type set to see all variables that are defined on the system. Amongst them you'll find the %USERPROFILE% variable with would point to c:\documents and settings\peter in your example. You just have to append the \local settings part. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Neurobiology cannot be learned at the feet of a guru. -- E. O. Wilson Current beta is 3.86.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Delete all temp files after using Voyager
Hello Peter Hampf everyone else,
on 24-Nov-2006 at 23:40 you (Peter Hampf) wrote:
cd %temp%
cd ..
if not exist temp goto skip
{instructions to remove dir and files}
:skip
But even this isn't foolproof. What if there exists a FILE with the name
temp and not a directory? In that case if exist temp will also return
true.
If there's a file named temp you can't CD to it I'd assume... :-)
cd /d %temp%
cd ..
to avoid problems.
Good point.
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de)
...The first thing that must be asked about future man is whether he
will be alive, and will know how to keep alive, and not whether it is
a good thing that he should be alive. -- Charles Galton Darwin
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Horizontal scrollbar disappears in threaded view when threads are really deep and the thread is collapsed
Hello everyone, this is a rather old bug but I couldn't find it documented anywhere. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6074 --- cut --- When a really deep thread is completely expanded, a scrollbar appears and the message list scrolls sideways to follow the subject column. If you collapse the thread now at a very early message, the scrollbar disappears, but the message list is not reset to be left-aligned. The cursor keys scroll the message list sideways, but there's no way to do that with the mouse. The screenshots provide examples for the behaviour. In msglist-expanded-with-scrollbar.png everything is as it should be. In msglist-collapsed-no-scrollbar.png you can see that the scrollbar has disappeared, but that the messagelist is not correctly left-aligned (the subject column is cut off on the left side). --- cut --- -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Space Interceptors by Higher Intelligence Agency Pete Namlook (from the 1997 album S.H.A.D.O.) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problem decrypting PGP messages from AppleMail/GnuPG
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 14-Nov-2006 at 17:41 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: Is anyone with an AppleMail/GPG user as a contact able to verify this, or can anyone give me a clue what might be the reason for this odd behaviour (I'm not really sure if it is the content-type header that is causing this problem). Even though I got no confirmations I added a report to the TB. I think this shouldn't be happening, as my contact with the AppleMail/GnuPG combination has no problems with other contacts (that are not using TB...). https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6075 -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Space Interceptors by Higher Intelligence Agency Pete Namlook (from the 1997 album S.H.A.D.O.) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Horizontal scrollbar disappears in threaded view when threads are really deep and the thread is collapsed
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 18-Nov-2006 at 12:40 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: ASK If you collapse the thread now at a very early message, the ASK scrollbar disappears, but the message list is not reset to be ASK left-aligned. The cursor keys scroll the message list sideways, ASK but there's no way to do that with the mouse. Has been discussed before on tbbeta. Yes, I know this has been discussed, and IIRC Curtis was one of the members who reported it. But I think it never made it into the BT so I thought its about time. :-) On a thread starting with mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know how extensive this thread was as I haven't got it in my archive (only my own reply) I don't have the message either, I don't keep them very long in my messagebase... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Something unknown to our understanding is visiting the Earth. -- Mitron Zverev, Soviet scientist Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.86.04: Headers pane displaying 'extraneous' characters
Hello MAU everyone else, on 18-Nov-2006 at 14:05 you (MAU) wrote: Do you see the same problem if you open it in your TB? Yes. Must have to do with the charset=ks_c_5601-1987 in the original message (try to reply to it, my editor opens with a most w3ird font). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Listening Winds by Khetzal (from the 2005 album Corolle) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.86.04: Headers pane displaying 'extraneous' characters
Hello MAU everyone else, on 18-Nov-2006 at 14:55 you (MAU) wrote: (try to reply to it, my editor opens with a most w3ird font) You mean like in attached? Hmmm no, mine looks different. Might depend on the type of fonts that are installed on your system. The TO header contains some asian double byte characters here (at least thats what they look like to me). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) History records the names of royal bastards, but it cannot tell us the origin of wheat. -- Jean Henri Fabre Current ALPHA is 3.86.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Horizontal scrollbar disappears in threaded view when threads are really deep and the thread is collapsed
Hello MAU everyone else, on 18-Nov-2006 at 14:56 you (MAU) wrote: I don't have the message either, I don't keep them very long in my messagebase... I have the whole thread if your are interested, it's 6-7 messages in total. If you can reproduce the behaviour, a confirmation note on the BT report would be nice. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I must confess, I was born at a very early age. -- Groucho Marx Current ALPHA is 3.86.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Horizontal scrollbar disappears in threaded view when threads are really deep and the thread is collapsed
Hello MAU everyone else, on 18-Nov-2006 at 19:00 you (MAU) wrote: No, I can't confirm. I believe it is because I have Options/Preferences/Messages/Limit expansion of first column set to 1. Yes, I would think that the bug doesn't appear then. I don't want to fiddle with this right know, I have work to do. But I'll try later or tomorrow. No problem. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) When you collect the ten wisest men in the world and ask them to find the most stupid thing in existence, they will not be able to find anything stupider than astrology. -- David Gilbert Current ALPHA is 3.86.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Problem decrypting PGP messages from AppleMail/GnuPG
Hello everyone, I have a contact that uses AppleMail together with GnuPG to encrypt his messages to me. However, I can not decrypt his messages in a way that allows me to read them in TB afterwards. When I click on the decrypt button and enter my passphrase, TB opens a file requester instead with the Save attachments as... title. When I want to read the message I have to save it to disk and open it from there. Quite a nuisance when you're regularly exchanging mails... I'm using TB with GnuPG. This does not happen with another contact who is also using an Apple computer - but with Eudora and PGP9. The only noticable difference in these two messages I can is the content-type header. The one from the working message has LFs: Content-Type: multipart/encrypted; protocol=application/pgp-encrypted; boundary=PGP_Universal_150AA4B9_647C0F42_12D3212E_A10EC31D The one that is not working has no LFs: Content-Type: multipart/encrypted; protocol=application/pgp-encrypted; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-449897387 Is anyone with an AppleMail/GPG user as a contact able to verify this, or can anyone give me a clue what might be the reason for this odd behaviour (I'm not really sure if it is the content-type header that is causing this problem). Thanks... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Voladores by Alien Soap Opera (from the 2000 album Second Wave) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 09-Nov-2006 at 02:07 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: So Peter's wish could come true. One problem though. When you decide to download the last 300 messages, you could be picking up messages that have been downloaded previously. Indeed. If you do not download all the headers, you can't determine which messages where previously downloaded. What's the exact mechanism that TB uses to decide what messages have been downloade? Does it use the headers for that? I think so. The files account.m_d and account.m_r are used for that, aren't they? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: The Last Laugh by Mark Knopfler (from the 2000 album Sailing To Philadelphia) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Benedict Allen everyone else, on 08-Nov-2006 at 02:21 you (Benedict Allen) wrote: AK That functionality depends on the POP server, not all types of AK servers support the TOP msg n command. I thought that TOP msg n command would only give you one message header at a time... Yes. Shouldn't make a difference if a program automatically issues the commands one by one. With the STAT and LIST command you can determine how many messages are on the server, and then use TOP msg n to retrieve the headers of msg only (and not all of them!) and n lines of the body. Hmmm... but then again, if its not about only partially downloading some messages *headers* ... since you know how many messages are on the server, you could just as well only download a portion of them... without downloading all the headers, either... scratching forehead (I just don't know if the sorting is always the same, on my POP3 server msg 1 is always the oldest). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Science is a lot of guys in tweed suits cutting up frogs on foundation grants... -- Woody Allen Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Vili everyone else, on 08-Nov-2006 at 21:00 you (Vili) wrote: I told you that it is possible to download X message only. OK, you'll get a beer! ;-) Just think about the mail dispatcher. That does the same thing. Apply different stuff to different messages. That would be done here, too. But Peter's problem with the mail dispatcher is that it downloads all message headers prior to selecting a few to download and as Roelof pointed out, the message headers may be a major portion of the entire data that needs to be transferred. With TOP msg n you could retrieve just a selected number of the message headers - and the MD contains an option that makes use of that command (download n number of the message body with the headers) already. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The Atomic Bomb is a paper tiger...Terrible to look at, but not so strong as it seems. -- Mao Tse-Tung Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
Hello Matt Thoene everyone else, on 07-Nov-2006 at 19:53 you (Matt Thoene) wrote: I've tested this with other mail clients and they are able to recover if there is an interruption in the connection. Hmmm. What happens if you reduce the timeout? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Give me, Mother, luck at my birth, then throw me if you will on the rubbish heap. (Bulgarian Proverb) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Interrupted POP connection leaves Connection Centre unresponsive
Hello Matt Thoene everyone else, on 07-Nov-2006 at 20:37 you (Matt Thoene) wrote: I've tested this with other mail clients and they are able to recover if there is an interruption in the connection. Hmmm. What happens if you reduce the timeout? Not sure. I'll reduce them from the default 60 seconds to 30 now and see how this work. Thanks. I saw the BT entry that Peter post after replying to your message. I fear that changing the timeout will not make any difference after I read the notes (in the links to the similar BT entries). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If rational men cooperated and used their scientific knowledge to the full, they could now secure the economic welfare of all. -- Bertrand Russell Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Vili everyone else, on 06-Nov-2006 at 19:59 you (Vili) wrote: Using Telnet and POP protocol requests, it is possible to download the X newest (top X, I mean) messages. So, it IS possible to download the newest X messages indeed. That functionality depends on the POP server, not all types of servers support the TOP msg n command. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Wisdom is still a galaxy light-years away. -- Jack Henry Abbott Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Noob question
Hello Rick Grunwald everyone else, its in the list footer that is appended to every message. on 07-Nov-2006 at 21:00 you (Rick Grunwald) wrote: Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html That site contains the link you're looking for. What a wonderful world. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Rennie's Law of Public Transit: If you start walking, the bus comes when you are halfway between stops. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Wish: dl only so many new messages instead of all
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 05-Nov-2006 at 18:52 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: Do you think, this is a wish worthwhile filing to BT? Wouldn't this be possible with a selective download filter? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Beta site download page
Hello Stuart Hemming everyone else, on 02-Nov-2006 at 09:09 you (Stuart Hemming) wrote: You could type SlashSpaceSlashSlashReturn and this will give also cutmark working in TheBat! even if Autoformat is active, as there is no Space at the ending of the line. Now I didn't know about that one. I think its user when you sign a message with PGP using in-line encoding (instead of pgp/mime). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If you legally acquire music, you need to have the right to manage it on all other devices that you own (Steve Jobs, March 2002) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Beta site download page
Hello ...in addition to my previous message... on 02-Nov-2006 at 18:32 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: its user -r +d -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Every time you scientists make a major invention, we politicians have to invent a new institution to cope with it, and almost invariably these days, it must be an international institution. -- John F. Kennedy Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mail from Tom
Hello Roland Burger everyone else, on 31-Okt-2006 at 14:48 you (Roland Burger) wrote: I'm only getting many duplicates from the message of Tom with MID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in TBUDL and no other mails. After downloading this TheBat closes!!! No problem here. This message and all other messages download just fine. All what I tried - also dongrading - has been without success. AVG said that I have no viruses! As it previously has been said to you by me and others (I hope you do read the *sighing* in that sentence!): - delete the offending message from the server with the message dispatcher. - remove ALL plug-ins from The Bat In addition: - try to uninstall AVG (at least for testing). It may interfere with downloading mail in that it locks the temp files of TB. PLEASE, try this and give us *feedback* if it works or not! Its no use to ask the same question over and over again if we don't know whether you tried what has been suggested to you And since you downgraded, and nothing changed I also dare say that this is most likely NOT a beta issue but some sort of plugin/antivirus problem. I therefore CC this reply to TBUDL and kindly ask you to reply on TBUDL and not on TBBETA, so that other regular users can benefit from the result or are made aware of an unusual problem. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Those who are affected by music can be divided into two classes: those who hear the spiritual meaning, and those who hear the material sound. There are good and evil results in each case. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.86.03 Alpha
Hello Roland everyone else, on 28-Okt-2006 at 12:49 you (GMX) wrote: TheBat closes automatically though connection manager has not downloaded all mails. What can be the reason? In the previous thread about the same topic that you started a couple of days ago, some suggestions where made what you could do. Did you try these? Unfortunately, I found no feedback from you... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Zelman's Rule of Radio Reception: Your radio won't pick up the station that you want to hear the most. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Problems downloading messages
Hello Roland Burger everyone else, on 22-Okt-2006 at 09:54 you (Roland Burger) wrote: after moving back to Germany I tried to download all messages from the mailinglists. With MailWasher I see all messages, but after downloading with TheBat I get only a few of these messages because TheBat closes automatically. Why? What can I do? Maybe you should try the message dispatcher to find out which message makes TB choke (some virus or spam mail maybe). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Between the great things we cannot do, the danger is that we shall do nothing. -- Adolph Monod Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 19-Okt-2006 at 02:41 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: ASK Is this maybe a bug in the TB MSI installation, or a feature? I guess it could be either depending on which side of the issue you stand. Having the option to choose the installation behavior would be an elegant resolution. I agree with you. However, I tend to think it is a bug in the TB MSI, since I can see all other programs installed on my computer in the list when looking at it with the limited user account - except TB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Sie müssen sich Microsoft wie eine Bestie vorstellen, die alles verschlingt, was auf ihrem Weg liegt. (Matt Rosoff in 'Directions on Microsoft') Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Maxim Masiutin everyone else, on 11-Okt-2006 at 21:53 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tbb38603.rar It should fix the problems with OTFE of previous beta, and should work faster than before. The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right click a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in this version. I just searched the context menu two times before I found the item again, thought I'd need glasses, so: Why? I found the previous menu item much more descriptive than Follow. I don't follow a message when I view in a virtual folder, I'm already there. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) There is virtually nothing that has come from molecular biology that can be of any value to human living in the conventional sense of what is good, and quite tremendous possibilities of evil... -- Sir Frank Macfarlane Burnet Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello MAU everyone else, on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:04 you (MAU) wrote: The context menu item Locate Original (available when you right click a message in a virtual folder) has been renamed to Follow in this version. Not here, it still shows as 'Locate original'. See subject. You are using 3.86.02 according to your signature... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Artists never thrive in colonies. Ants do. What the budding artist needs is the priviledge of wrestling with his problems in solitude - and now and then a piece of red meat. -- Henry Miller Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:10 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: I guess it depends on the language pack you use. I see on my PC Locate Original and on my laptop and with Voyager I see Follow. All use version 3.86.03. Interesting. I'm using an english Windows XP and english TB. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The problems of language here are really serious. We wish to speak in some way about the structure of atoms... but we cannot speak about atoms in ordinary language. -- Werner Heisenberg Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Peter Meyns everyone else, on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:48 you (Peter Meyns) wrote: ASK Interesting. I'm using an english Windows XP and english TB. Here it is German Windows. XP on the PC and 2K on the notebook. I don't think that the OS language matters. I think it's RIT's language pack which comes along with every MSI of the Pro version. IIRQ I ran the new installation on the PC and just replaced thebat.exe on the laptop. So, installing the latest language pack here, would probably result in Locate Original. I'm not sure though, if this applies to Voyager too. I just checked... Control Panel / Add or Remove Programs shows TB installed as 3.85.03 which is the MSI of the latest stable release. I don't even have the int'l pack installed, always deselected it (the built-in english interface is enough for me). Whats really interesting #1 - I don't see the TB installation in the control panel when I open it with my normal (limited user) work account. Only when I log in as admin I can see TB in the list of installed programs. Whats really interesting #2 - I just started TB in the admin account (by simply clicking Start / E-Mail, the XP shortcut to the default mail program) and it loads version 3.0.2.10! I do have that version as thebat30210.exe in my program files folder, but how does XP find this version, especially since the installed MSI is 3.85.03? I'm puzzled! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Science is a world of most unlikely truths. And if we have found that it works, we have only to thank the imaginative courage of men who were willing to fly in the face of their five senses, from the day of Galileo, to the day of Einstein. -- Jacob Bronowski Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 18-Okt-2006 at 22:50 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: I get irritated when I have multiple users wanting their own desktop, etc. but share a single email account. Thats not a problem here. My admin account and my normal work account don't share the same mail data, in fact the admin account doesn't even have/use any mail account. I treat my user account as my personal account and keep the admin account free from any personalisation (other than those that help me do administrative tasks). I have not found a way to install TB so that it is available to selected, or all, users on a given machine. I think we should have an installation option to make it available to all users when desired as Opera, Irfanview and other good programs. Well, TB did install its shortcuts in the Start menu alright, but I was surprised to not find TB in the list of installed programs. I know the feature you're mentioning with regards to the start menu and desktop shortcuts etc., but I didn't know that items in the control panel/arp sections could be hidden from one user while being visible to others. Is this maybe a bug in the TB MSI installation, or a feature? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) One of life's mysteries is how a two pound box of candy can make a woman gain five pounds. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello MAU everyone else, on 18-Okt-2006 at 18:28 you (MAU) wrote: But see my sig now, and I still see 'Locate original'. As Peter Meyns pointed out, it may have to do with installed languages aka the int'l pack which is part of the professional version. Are you using these? I'm using TB without extra language files. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It's a dog eat dog world out there, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear. (Norm Peterson) Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Paul Van Noord everyone else, on 18-Okt-2006 at 22:38 you (Paul Van Noord) wrote: Locate is used here. Aw crap, my mistake. I must've started 3.0.2.10 in my admin account recently and set the associations to this old version accidentally. SORRY for the confusion, its all as it should be (locate original). Funny thing is, I didn't even notice the difference between the two versions... ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The meeting of two personalities is like the contact of two chemical substances: if there is any reaction, both are transformed. -Carl Jung Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Activation Limit Exceeded with Voyager
Hello Ian A. White everyone else, on 15-Okt-2006 at 23:04 you (Ian A. White) wrote: When was activation introduced? IIRC it was part of the Voyager installation right from the start, because Voyager doesn't write to the registry of the local machine (or at least it shouldn't:-) it cannot store its registration data there. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) At last they are beginning to take me seriously. This imposes a terrible burden on me. I must redouble my laughter. -- Lawrence Durrell Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Maxim Masiutin everyone else, on 13-Okt-2006 at 01:42 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: Screens redraws (ie. when opening/closing a separate message window) are *maybe* a little bit faster than before. Maybe the difference is not there and I'm hallucinating. Either way, its still so much slower than 3.0.2.10 used to be. :-( Do you mean that screen redraws in 3.0.2.10 are much faster than now, with the same Skins/Themes settings? Yes, thats what I mean. Vili made a video of the slow graphics rendering a while ago. Here its not so bad as seen in the video, but its still very very noticable. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, and those who don't. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Maxim Masiutin everyone else, on 11-Okt-2006 at 21:53 you (Maxim Masiutin) wrote: should work faster than before. Screens redraws (ie. when opening/closing a separate message window) are *maybe* a little bit faster than before. Maybe the difference is not there and I'm hallucinating. Either way, its still so much slower than 3.0.2.10 used to be. :-( -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Is it not that Her Majesty's government infored our people of what they know about U.F.O.'s? I think it is time our people were told the truth. -- Brinsley Le Poer Trench, Earl of Clancarty Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Gleason Pace everyone else, on 12-Okt-2006 at 18:38 you (Gleason Pace) wrote: Sometimes the extra code to make things work right means that a program must run slower than when things didn't work right. TB's Imap is looking very good these days. :yes: Well, even though I don't have an IMAP account its good to hear that TBs IMAP is getting somewhere. But, having said that, I don't see how a propper IMAP implementation affects the speed of rendering the graphics of a window opening/closing. Maybe it has a check like is there an IMAP account that needs to do something? per line drawn onto the screen? ;-) This slow gfx rendering adds a lot to the experience of TB to me (it used to feel quick and snappy back then), and the slowness that creeped into the code somewhere in the 3.5x series is the one issue that keeps annoying me, and I will keep moaning about until its fixed. (and if that may take forever, so be it - ha!;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Whenever I have to choose between two evils, I always like to try the one I haven't tried before. -- Mae West Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.86.03 ALPHA
Hello Gary everyone else, on 12-Okt-2006 at 20:26 you (Gary) wrote: D That is certainly odd... Sounds like a bug to me. It is a bug (or RL's decision). RL has known about it for a long time, since starting IMAP into TB!, yet nothing has been done to date to correct it. Curtis has mentioned it long ago in this forum, several times, as have I, and a few others using IMAP. And did you file a bug report on the bugtracker website? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they go flying by. Current ALPHA is 3.86.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug in template called by handle function?
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 08-Okt-2006 at 23:35 you (Mary Bull) wrote: As long as I haven't made any changes to the message body, I can change the recipient, and the template will change with it. So I assume you had already begun typing the actual message, and then changed the recipient. Well you are right, but I had only glanced down into the message body and seen that the greeting said Hello ssis, so I put my sister's name in there. Only then did I glance up and see in the To field only the one word ssis. As I told before, I did a back-space, tabbed down, the address went in, I just tried to reproduce this. Even when I move into the message editor and haven't made any changes (not a single keystroke) and then go back to the header pane to change the TO field, the new template is applied. Maybe you accidentally typed something (even if its only one letter + backspace to delete it again). You're correct. But both you and Paul are missing the issue that is meaningful to me, here. Oh, I understand the problem, but I see no way around it. Either the already existing message body (if any changes were made) is preserved, or the template is applied again, clearing the editor window. Maybe there should be some sort of notification window, something like: Warning - the TO address uses a different message template than the one that was initially applied. Do you want to discard any changes in the editor and apply the new template? YES/NO -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology: There's always one more bug. Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug in template called by handle function?
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 09-Okt-2006 at 19:41 you (Mary Bull) wrote: Alex, I thought I wrote clearly, but I guess I didn't: I *did* write in the message body. The greeting is part of the message body. I changed Hello siss, to Hello Sue! Ah. I have overlooked that detail. I see it now in the paragraph you wrote, but it was difficult for me to spot it. :-) I simply won't use the handle function any more. A great loss of convenience for me, of course. But, security over convenience every time, in my hierarchy of priorities. Maybe you should just change your way of handling things like this. As Paul said, simply start over again with a new message where you're sure you typed in the correct handle. Or add some subtle change in the signature, greetings, or somewhere else in the template that uses encryption, so that you have a visual confirmation that you're indeed sending the message encrypted. I thought some sort of over-ride for addresses with %ENCRYPTCOMPLETE in their templates over addresses without that macro might be possible to code. That would require to sorta classify the macros. I can't really say if this is a convenient way to handle this issue, since the personal preference of users may differ, and the last thing I need would be another configuration dialogue to classify the macros (just thinking the idea to the end). Maybe there should be some sort of notification window, something like: Warning - the TO address uses a different message template than the one that was initially applied. Do you want to discard any changes in the editor and apply the new template? YES/NO Oh, I would be very pleased, even to have that much protection! Maybe the other members of the list should chime in here so that eventually a reasonable wish can be formed out of this. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The crisis of today is the joke of tomorrow. -- H. G. Wells Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug in template called by handle function?
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 09-Okt-2006 at 20:12 you (Mary Bull) wrote: No, no. Again, you've missed my point. All I have to do is not use the To-field handle function. You do know what that is? Sure, I'm using it all the time. I just tried to show an alternative. shrug -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. - Bokonon Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB 3.85.03 - Backup
Hello Goncalo Farias everyone else, on 08-Okt-2006 at 21:20 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote: Something is AGAIN broken with the BACKUP procedure. The backup procedure may not be the real problem, like, something corrupts something on your machine, and this something causes the backup to fail. Which sounds quite miserable to reproduce... :-/ -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It may sound ridiculous, but to date better quantitative evidence of self-recognization exists for chimpanzees than for man. -- Gordon Gallup Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug in template called by handle function?
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 08-Okt-2006 at 16:42 you (Mary Bull) wrote: Can anyone confirm the behavior? As long as I haven't made any changes to the message body, I can change the recipient, and the template will change with it. So I assume you had already begun typing the actual message, and then changed the recipient. Just tested it with my girlfriend as a recipient, who has a personal address template, then changed the recipient to be you, and my standard english - personal template was applied. As soon as I typed something in the message body, the template won't change - this is correct IMHO, because you'd lose what you already wrote when the new template is applied. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It is the task of science to turn the impossible into the boring. -- Robert Ornstein Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB 3.85.03 - Backup
Hello Goncalo Farias everyone else, on 06-Okt-2006 at 20:47 you (Goncalo Farias) wrote: I'm using the latest version and the backup utility is defective again. I'm doing a full backup with external files being stored in messages. I'm getting the following message box: ... I just created a full backup with 3.86.02 and there were no problems. I store the attachments in the message body as well. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Stress is when you wake up screaming and then realize you haven't fallen asleep yet. Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Port for SMTP with TLS
Hello Krzysztof Trybowski everyone else, on 05-Okt-2006 at 02:22 you (Krzysztof Trybowski) wrote: I always thought that SMTP over TLS runs on port 465. This is what gmail uses and what TB! used to propose in settings. I thought gmail used 587. Currently it proposes port 4433. Why is that? Never heard of this. Where did you see it? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Profanity is the literary crutch of an inarticulate motherfucker. (Unknown) Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.86.02 BETA
Hello Ethan J. Mings everyone else, on 04-Okt-2006 at 19:16 you (Ethan J. Mings) wrote: When trying to send attachments, Outlook is opened instead of The Bat. Could it be that you're working with a normal user account here? I just stumbled over the fact that you can change the default email program in the Internet Settings with a normal user account, but the setting won't stick. I had to log in with my admin account and make the change that way. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The trouble with today's individuals is that they're getting harder and harder to tell apart. -- Carl Antczak Current beta is 3.86.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Threading Issues
Hello Steven P Vallière everyone else, on 27-Sep-2006 at 13:46 you (Steven P Vallière) wrote: threaded views a rarely correctly organized (except in groups like this one where everyone is using the same email program). Try to use threading by reference and subject (combined). Press ALT+5 in the messagelist to activate it, or by reference alone (ALT+1). Its not a cure-all, but usually better than threading by subject alone. Threading by reference fails when there are no references. Crappy webmailers like hotmail, aol and whatnot simply leave out these headers. Outlook 2003, when sending directly over an ISPs smtp server, even leaves out the message-id. You can't possibly thread these messages correctly. These mailers are RFC-ignorant, but as long as the RFC only says should and not must in the specs for references and in-reply-to headers (as well as the message-id), there's not much to do about it but re-thread the wrongly or un-threaded messages. I'd like to suggest/request an option for the threading model to either do whatever it is doing now (for those who like it) *OR* to have it skip over all known forms of the 're' prefixes. Perhaps even allowing the user to specify a regular expression for what constitutes the various types of 're' prefixes that are to be ignored when trying to match subject lines for threading. Add a supporting note to this wishlist item, please: http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5152 Also note that some of the threads contain messages from DIFFERENT THREADS! If threads contain different messages, its usually not because TB makes an error here, but because the users are too ignorant. When they want to write a new message, they choose the reply function instead (because they are too lazy to type in the list address, for example) and most of them are completely unaware of these references headers - they don't know that, even if they change the subject, the reference to the original message is still part of the reply. Notifying those people about their irritating behaviour is like being Don Quixote fighting the windmills. You can always re-thread messages (was implemented in some v3 of TB): drag drop a message onto a thread to re-thread it, shift-drag to un-thread it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The trouble with today's individuals is that they're getting harder and harder to tell apart. -- Carl Antczak Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Exchange The Bat!
Hello Paul Meathrel everyone else, on 24-Sep-2006 at 22:11 you (Paul Meathrel) wrote: I wasn't sure, and as I certainly didn't want to empty my exchange mailbox with thousands of messages in it, I checked keep messages on the server before I continued. Which was exactly why I always used IMAP. Understandable. Accessing Exchange via IMAP is so much better than with MAPI. I find that MAPI is not really useful if you have a large Exchange mailbox... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Puritanism - The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy. -- H. L. Mencken Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: possible Mailto-Subject Bug?
Hello Ethan J. Mings everyone else, on 24-Sep-2006 at 21:49 you (Ethan J. Mings) wrote: EC But what? And how can I get to the root of the problem? Any clue EC what to look for? Can you provide a few more details on what is going wrong? ??? Where have you been? Look at the start of this thread in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If a dog's prayers were answered, bones would rain from the sky. -- Turkish Proverb Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Exchange The Bat!
Hello Paul Meathrel everyone else, on 23-Sep-2006 at 17:50 you (Paul Meathrel) wrote: I want to add that, when you install TB and select the MAPI protocol, the next screen of the installer is a POP3 dialogue that asks for options like keeping messages on the server, etc. - very confusing! Yes, I noticed that too. That was one of the main reasons I always used IMAP to connect to our Exchange server rather than MAPI. I'm guessing from what you are saying Alexander that these options are not relevant and are ignored? I wasn't sure, and as I certainly didn't want to empty my exchange mailbox with thousands of messages in it, I checked keep messages on the server before I continued. This installer screen should be fixed/adapted really, its really a FUD creator, to say so. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again. Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Deadlock in Eval mode with IMAP
Hello, I just thought I'd it (connect TB with IMAP to a local Exchange server) another try. Installed TB in evaluation mode. Entered IMAP login data but made a typo in the account credentials (username). Forgot to start the IMAP service on the Exchange server. Stopped TB and went to the Exchange system manager and started the IMAP service. Restarted TB. The Evaluation message pops up, and is overlayed by the IMAP account login window! This login window apparently has the attribute always on top. You can't even move it. I can't see the buttons of the evaluation message. See attachment. So, I blindly clicked on something, and maybe I got the correct button, but still, I could not type anything into the IMAP account login window, all I get is the Windows error sound, and thats it. Three finger salute to the task manager, and kill the TB process. Theres *nothing* I can do now to start TB without this deadlock situation appearing. If this would've been my first try with TB, it would be the point where I uninstall the program and forget about it forever. -- Greetings / Grüsse Alexander Kunz Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Deadlock in Eval mode with IMAP
Zitat von Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: See attachment. Forgot to include it. Here it is now. -- Greetings / Grüsse Alexander Kunz tb-lockout.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Exchange The Bat!
Hello David Elliott everyone else, on 22-Sep-2006 at 14:23 you (David Elliott) wrote: A number of problems with trying to use The Bat! with exchange. I want to add that, when you install TB and select the MAPI protocol, the next screen of the installer is a POP3 dialogue that asks for options like keeping messages on the server, etc. - very confusing! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The Earth is just a silly ball. -- John Updike Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Enhance Open URL context menu entry to open wrappen URLs when marked
Hello NetVicious everyone else, on 17-Sep-2006 at 23:46 you (NetVicious) wrote: I just cursed at TB again for the inability to fix/open linewrapped URLs... Sometimes I detected the second or next lines of a linewrapped url runs correctly. It seems the problem it's only with the first line of linewrapped links. I don't understand what you mean, can you illustrate it with a long (wrapped) URL? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Conway's Law: In every organization there will always be one person who knows what is going on. This person must be fired. Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Enhance Open URL context menu entry to open wrappen URLs when marked
Hello everyone, can I please draw your attention to this old wishlist item: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3871 I just cursed at TB again for the inability to fix/open linewrapped URLs... AppleMail and Opera can handle this sorta broken URLs, and I think its about time for TB to catch up. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -- Albert Einstein Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Birthday reminder pops up at every start
Hello Bill McCarthy everyone else, on 10-Sep-2006 at 20:01 you (Bill McCarthy) wrote: BTW, if it only fires up (when its working) when we start TB, those of us who only don't shut down every day are not going to see reminders. As soon as the clock passed midnight I got a birthday reminder a while ago. TB was running and I was reading mails. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Gerrold's Pronouncement: The difference between a politician and a snail is that a snail leaves its slime behind. Current beta is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Question for Ritlabs: Connect with an Exchange Server using RPC over HTTP
Hello NetVicious everyone else, on 07-Sep-2006 at 22:12 you (NetVicious) wrote: A member of the Spanish Group of The Bat! users it's asking if TB! allows this type of connection [RPC over HTTP] Depends if the RPC-over-HTTP technique is open or proprietary MS stuff, I'd say... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me. - Sir Isaac Newton Current beta is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Post-release 3.85.03 released
Hello Richard Wakeford everyone else, on 08-Sep-2006 at 19:17 you (Richard Wakeford) wrote: Check for updates reports no updates available. Thats what Marek said, yes. ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I think science works the way a tightrope walker works; by not looking at it's feet. As soon as it looks at it's feet, it realizes it is operating in midair. -- Annie Dillard Current beta is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Editor/window when creating automatic reply
Hello Roger Phillips everyone else, on 28-Aug-2006 at 06:55 you (Roger Phillips) wrote: ASK when you select create automatic reply/message as a filter ASK action, the editor Window that is invoked has little or nothing to ASK do with the regular TB editors. Its not even resizable. ASK I'd like to see this window being opened with/as the default ASK editor that the user selected in his preferences (minus the ASK headers that are not applicable to a message/reply created by a ASK filter action). ASK Before filing a wishlist item I wish to discuss the idea here. :-) Sounds very sensible and logical. For now, I've created just a bug report for the non-resizable window. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6015 I will file a wishlist item for the editor support another day. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible. -- Albert Einstein Current beta is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No scrollbar on the change-log page/window Re: New release 3.85.02]
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 05-Sep-2006 at 17:42 you (Mary Bull) wrote: So, a wish: Could we have a scrollbar when there is a very long change-log for the new version being offered? Not just a scrollbar, but a resizable window, preferably. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Television? No good can come of this device. The word is half-Greek and half-Latin. -- C. P. Scott Current beta is 3.81.18 RC2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: No scrollbar on the change-log page/window Re: New release 3.85.02]
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 05-Sep-2006 at 18:09 you (Mary Bull) wrote: I couldn't get to the bottom for that button, either. The X was disabled. I didn't know about Enter for dealing with it--but my friendly Task Manager helped me out. :) Due to the buttons problem I filed this as a bug, rather than a wish. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6009 I chose to start the summary with non-resizable window:, maybe other reporters of similar issues can use that, too? I think it would help to identify all the reports dealing with this. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I'm a big fan of yours, Groucho. - If it gets any hotter in here I could use a big fan. -- Groucho Marx Current beta is 3.85.02 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Possible bug
Hello Roger Phillips everyone else, on 01-Sep-2006 at 10:57 you (Roger Phillips) wrote: http://xn--ovg.com/watermark ASK Isn't xn-- the introducer used for encoding international addresses? In Opera 8.54 the xn-- is replaced by a right-pointing solid arrow head. Does this tell you anything? Not really, but you can check the Wikipedia article about int'l domain names: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Domain_Names and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punycode - but the converter mentioned in the 2nd article http://www.motobit.com/util/punycode-decoder-encoder.asp reveals that xn--ovg.com has no unicode representation - and this probably is the reason why the browsers choke on the URL. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Amand's Law of Management: Everyone you need is always someplace else. Current beta is 3.81.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Possible bug
Hello Leif Gregory everyone else, on 31-Aug-2006 at 17:35 you (Leif Gregory) wrote: http://xn--ovg.com/watermark Isn't xn-- the introducer used for encoding international addresses? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception. (Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity) Current beta is 3.81.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Help file missing in 3.81.16
Hello Dwight A Corrin everyone else, on 29-Aug-2006 at 16:40 you (Dwight A Corrin) wrote: I get help with F1, but not with 'help:help topics' pull down Dito. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Marry me and I'll never look at another horse! -- Groucho Marx Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Editor/window when creating automatic reply
Hello everyone, when you select create automatic reply/message as a filter action, the editor Window that is invoked has little or nothing to do with the regular TB editors. Its not even resizable. I'd like to see this window being opened with/as the default editor that the user selected in his preferences (minus the headers that are not applicable to a message/reply created by a filter action). Before filing a wishlist item I wish to discuss the idea here. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Sometimes men come by the name of genius in the same way that an insect comes by the name of centipede - not because they have 100 feet, but because most men can't count beyond fourteen. -- George C. Lichtenberg Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB ignores recipient in List-Post header
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 26-Aug-2006 at 12:20 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: Is this a side effect of one of my macros or is this a common failure? Same here. Empty message, no recipient. The standard account template is applied. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Freedom is not an essential and basic condition for the growth of science; the care and diligence of government authorities are the most important conditions for this development. -- Vasili N. Tatishchev Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: simple mapi ignores the recipient
Hello Roelof Otten everyone else, on 26-Aug-2006 at 12:23 you (Roelof Otten) wrote: On the Ritlabs forum some guys complain that TB doesn't address their messages when called with simple mapi, though this used to work. As I haven't got any programs that use simple mapi to address messages (not that I'm aware of anyway) I cannot check this myself. Any takers? I don't know if its simple mapi, but FreePDF's email function doesn't work with TheBat here. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: Needing someone is like needing a parachute. If he isn't there the first time you need him, chances are you won't be needing him again. Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: view header fields area shrunk
Hello Joe everyone else, on 26-Aug-2006 at 15:13 you (Joe) wrote: I noticed that the scrollable header area has changed size and is now only one field high. When I send a message, or look at it in the view pain, I used to see the subject, from, To, CC and BCC in the header area. Now I just see one field and have to scroll to see the others. What happened? How do I get it back the way it used to be? I don't see that here. When you edit the headers, is the checkbox view this header in the scrollable part... selected? Anyway... its new to me that this setting also applies to the editor, I always thought its only the viewer part that is affected by the setting. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) A day without sunshine is like night. Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: view header fields area shrunk
Hello Joe everyone else, on 26-Aug-2006 at 16:10 you (Joe) wrote: When you edit the headers, is the checkbox view this header in the scrollable part... selected? Yes, I have all the Fields I want to see set to YES. Well, that explains why they're shown in the scrollable area, then! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Life is either a daring adventure or nothing. -- Helen Keller Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Voyager wish...
Hello Vili everyone else, on 24-Aug-2006 at 19:27 you (Vili) wrote: True... My mistake :((( voice of Nelson Muntz HA-HA /voice of Nelson Muntz SCNR!! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The frontiers are not East or West, North or South, but wherever a man confronts a fact. -- Henry David Thoreau Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta is now available
Hello vitalie vrabie everyone else, on 19-Aug-2006 at 17:16 you (vitalie vrabie) wrote: And for the poor souls that can't access the beta site ...and the check for updates function as well... :) I keep forgetting this, because I don't like built-in update (check) functions in general. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) NP: Cruel by Calexico (from the 2006 album Garden Ruin) Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Check for updates (was: The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta is now available)
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 19-Aug-2006 at 18:44 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: ...and the check for updates function as well... ASK I keep forgetting this, because I don't like built-in update (check) ASK functions in general. And why is that? I very much appreciate the function in TB, I use it after the beta has been announced here. Makes updating easier for me. The plain and simple update check in TB is a good solution, I know. Its some sort of historical reason maybe, to say so. I don't need any automatic updates, I don't want anything of that automatic stuff. You never know what it does. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I am going to record the facts for the information of God. He knows the facts, but he does not know this version of the facts. -- Leo Szilard Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Permanent delivery failure
Hello Mary Bull everyone else, on 19-Aug-2006 at 18:57 you (Mary Bull) wrote: Had anyone else experienced sending failures like this? Yes, as described in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBOT. The day I sent this message I couldn't post to either TBUDL or TBBETA at all. The error message you're getting looks very similar. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Just as important as having ideas is getting rid of them. -- Francis Crick Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta is now available
Hello everyone, on 18-Aug-2006 at 23:11 9Val wrote: The Bat! 3.81.15 Beta is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ And for the poor souls that can't access the beta site regularly for Mysterious reasons, the series: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb38115.rar ;-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) The development of Hydro-electric power in the desert of North America awaits only the introduction of water. -- Statement in Nuclear News Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: status of IMAP support?
Hello Vilius Šumskas everyone else, on 09-Aug-2006 at 00:42 you (Vilius Šumskas) wrote: Maybe some screenshots could help too? (see attachment) I think the problem is your math here. :-) Add inbox (total, in brackets) + sent + trash, and thats the number that TB shows in your account as total. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) Which would you rather have, a bursting planet or an earthquake here and there? -- John Joseph Lynch Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Un-install wizard doesn't completely remove files
Hello Peter Ouwehand everyone else, on 11-Aug-2006 at 03:23 you (Peter Ouwehand) wrote: well, NT4 (better than all sh*t before) stored user profiles in the WINNT directory, how stupid can M$ be to choose such a location... I think the year they did that was 1995 or something. Not exactly a problem back then. :-) ASK but all my configurations and messages are in %APPDATA%\The Bat. Are you working in a workstation/server environment? No, this is a single user machine. I practice what I preach. :-) ASK Maybe that confirmation message in the uninstall process should be ASK refined. I agree. Who files a wish? :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) I am compelled to fear that science will be used to promote the power of dominant groups rather than to make men happy. (Bertrand Russel) Current beta is 3.81.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
