Re[2]: The Bat 4.0
Hello, Thursday, September 2, 2004, 12:53:21 PM, Mary Bull wrote: MB I trust that support will be there for me, if I need it Ritlabs support? I emailed them several times and got no respond. I can't even be sure it exists. :D -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! v3 pricing and availability info
Hello, Tuesday, August 31, 2004, 3:32:29 PM, Jurgen Haug wrote: Tschuldigung aber das musste man raus - FICKEN! JH apart from the last word I can agree to that I don't exactly understand the last sentence, but, I guess, he is right! :D -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.00 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Windows Commander
Hello, Tuesday, March 12, 2002, 8:32:10 AM, sergey uvarov wrote: Sorry It's only available for beta tester. but apparently windows commander 5.00 arrive to unpack winrar3 without anys prob su Not. It says: Unknown format. su So, for WC 5.0 You have to install/downolad RAR v.3. I understand, that it's pretty late to answer, but I was busy and just read your letter. Right after new format appeared on TB! ftp site I realized that WC didn't unpack TB! archive any more (but command line unrar did). I complained to Christian Ghisler and see what I got next day: CG Windows Commander doesn't support beta versions of RAR. CG But you can get a replacement unrar.dll from the following CG address: CG ftp://www.rarsoft.com/rar/UnRARDLL.exe CG CG Run the installer, then place the unrar.dll in the Wincmd directory. CG If you had opened a RAR file in Windows Commander, you will CG need to close and re-open it first. CG CG Please note that older versions of this DLL had bugs, so make CG sure to get the latest from the above URL! CG CG The external unpacker is ONLY called for encrypted or multi- CG volume archives, because it's not reliably possible to determine CG the RAR version. CG CG Best regards CG CG Christian Ghisler This solution worked out perfectly, so if you didn't resolve this problem yet - follow it. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[4]: Virus protection with Kaspersky Antivirus plugin
Hello, Tuesday, February 5, 2002, 2:46:34 PM, Eric Malausséna wrote: EM But, if you ask AVP for scanning mails, when one is infected, AVP will EM prevent you from deleting it... No, it doesn't allow you to receive infected letter (by locking temporary file *before* it being imported to mailbase). And you *can* delete infected attachment, if it's stored separately (just *delete*, not *move to trash basket* :)). -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[4]: Input focus problem involving Simple MAPI-created messages
Hello, Tuesday, January 29, 2002, 9:33:46 AM, Anton I. Danilov wrote: AID By the way, notice that David has NT4, whereas I and Alastair use XP. AID Seems like an os-dependent bug. Let say OS bug. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: Virus protection with Kaspersky Antivirus plugin
Hello, Tuesday, January 29, 2002, 11:28:26 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: MM Nobody want to discuss :-) I'm just afraid of putting virus on my computer by purpose. And my AV Monitor wouldn't allow me to do it (I don't want to disable it). We can discuss sending couple of *pretty harmless* viruses to my address, but let do it out of list and *don't* send them to address below. Just e-mail to this address and I'll give you target (box I don't check from office). -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/30 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com BugTraq: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re: Shortcut (Alt-F12)
Hello, 14 Jan 2002, 4:20:22 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote: EC -b- Main Menu|Option|Language (in the shortcut table) shows all EC Language possible/installed on TB!. EC Looking at the (real)Menu|Option I can't find the Language item. Do you have intpack installed? -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/24 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: The Bat! - bug report
Hello, 8 Jan 2002, 2:15:40 PM, Per Goetterup wrote: PG ... $Known$ ... It's not a bug. And it has been discussed very deeply before. PG I've not seen this discussion, having jumped into the BETA forum fairly PG recently. Sorry for reporting in vain... PG I found a few references in the archives but no clear answer as to how to get PG rid of this 'common $Known$ folder'... Anyone know? I just forwarded to your address 42 recent messages about this subject. I wanted to send them as attachments, but... :( Sorry. I think, you can't easily get rid of it, but it's absolutely harmless, so just relax and wait for official release (or couple of Betas). We live with several really harmful things haven't fixed yet. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/24 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Cosmetic bug: Line wrap
Hello, 5 Jan 2002, 4:56:02 AM, Martin Schoch wrote: MS Well, it's a cosmetic bug - but when the editor window is smaler MS than the line size set in the configuration then the wrap isn't done MS at the end of the window. Is it a bug? I like it *this* way (scrolling versus wrapping). Did it work different before? -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/22 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Different bugs in Beta/24
Hello, 5 Jan 2002, 1:12:24 PM, Konstantin Volenbovsky wrote: 1) I composed a letter and pressed exit: TB proposed me to save this message as draft, I pressed yes - but the status became ready to send(without indicator hour-glass) Can't confirm. KV 4) Bugs of Smart Pad! KV a)Press Smart Pad - right click - Save as - KV cancel. KV TB:Cannot focus a disabled or invisible window Confirmed (but nothing harmful :)). KV b)Open Smart Pad!, then Message editor. When in message editor window KV - press TB in taskbar. It opens Smart Pad, instead of main TB window. Shows both on my machine, and focus is on main window, as it should be. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Opening attachments of unknown type
Hello, 6 Jan 2002, 2:54:54 PM, Alastair Scott wrote: AS (i) opening attachments of an unknown type prompts to save it (maybe AS as designed, but slightly surprising!) AS (ii) Another Z-order problem; the window which states that TB! doesn't AS know what application is associated with the attachment file type AS appears behind the save window but in front of the main TB! window. AS Presumably it should be in front of the save window? AS Steps to reproduce the bug: AS Select a message with an attachment of unknown type and press AS Ctrl-Enter. It says No application is associated with the specified file for this operation. You need to save the file and then open it. Open with... and Open as plain text (or just View) in context menu would be helpful. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hello, 7 Jan 2002, 7:38:28 AM, Paul A. Thiessen wrote: PAT Type a long (wrapped) paragraph in the editor, in stream mode when PAT auto-format and auto-wrap are on. Double-click on (to select) the first word PAT of any but the first line of the paragraph. Now, if you hit 'del' or PAT 'backspace', the word is deleted, but the cursor moves to the beginning of PAT the previous word, instead of staying at the position of the deleted word, PAT which is confusing. Even worse, if instead of 'del' you just start typing, PAT e.g. to overwrite the selected word, the new typing also starts before the PAT word prior to the selection, so your word order gets messed up. Can't reproduce. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/25 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: common folder(s) question ...
Hello, 3 Jan 2002, 8:52:36 PM, Jody Watts wrote: JW Can someone explain a reason/use for common folders? It *very* useful, if you want to share some mail with other people in a LAN and you don't want to share entire account. You just create common folder on a network (shared) drive. You could do it before, but you had to create fake account or play with permissions on a Network. Also I copied to common folders letters I didn't want to delete from cancelled account and was able to delete this account. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/22 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Connection Center (was: 1.54 Beta/22)
Hello, 4 Jan 2002, 8:29:09 AM, Jonas Koopmann wrote: Please descirbe this a bit more. JK Very difficult. I don't know how to reproduce it. But sometimes, when TB JK tries to connect to 3 or 4 pop3 servers at the same time and when there JK are problems with your internet connection at the same time, the cancel JK button does not work. You have to click and click and click and wait... Confirmed on 98SE. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/22 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: msg size not displayed correctly
Hello, 3 Jan 2002, 1:39:25 PM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM I realized in beta21 that the file size in the preview isn't displayed PM correctly if it is a large file. In my case 155.738 bytes were given as PM 1.557 (see attached screenshot). I'd very much like to see the /real/ PM file size, even if it exceeds four digits... ;-) Do you have letter 155K size? I mean - without attachments. 8-) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/22 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: msg size not displayed correctly
Hello, 3 Jan 2002, 2:20:42 PM, Peter Meyns wrote: BG Do you have letter 155K size? I mean - without attachments. 8-) PM ?? Oops, I'm sorry, I don't know. Where? What? I really have no idea PM what you're referring to... :-) PM ... In my case 155.738 bytes ... Isn't it 155K? I was referring to your question. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/22 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Window Focus Problem Still Present in Beta 20
Hello, 1 Jan 2002, 8:12:58 AM, Marek Mikus wrote: DAC It still won't show common folders, so it's no use to me. MM close TB, create empty file named account.cfg in MAIL directory and MM open TB. It *does* work! Thanks a lot! And it has some interesting features, applying on common folders, after all. I didn't check them all, but at least it remember folders and account settings after restart. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/21 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Beta/21?
Hello, 29 Dec 2001, 11:27:42 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH 1. Files on FTP are not necessarily for download. DH 2. ... at least not for everybody. DH 3. Just because we know the specific server address does not make it DH public. DH 4. RITLabs announced some time back that only on list announced betas DH are for public use. DH 5. Has it occurred to you that some developers of RITLabs may not be DH at the same premises as others? DH 6. Perhaps they have two or three different circles of beta testers - DH internal, closed and public? Come on, it's /pub/the_bat/beta/tb154b21.rar! :) And it's 644 - RW for owner, R for group, R for public. If someone wants to put into *such* place file for close circle, he can make it at least 640. Of course, people expect the file in *this* place, with *these* name and permissions to doesn't be a garbage. And, after all, it *does not* looks garbage at all. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/21 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/20 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[6]: Beta20 - Bugs
Hello, 27 Dec 2001, 3:21:35 AM, Alexander Leschinsky wrote: AL Run with Standard window size - it can eliminate part of problems AL (such as phantom-window) You didn't understand me. I do exactly like you say: BG Run - Normal window in link preferences (you probably meant this). -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Beta20 - Bugs
Hello, 26 Dec 2001, 7:27:46 PM, Ethan J. Mings wrote: EJM [3] The navigator in the top right hand of the program is gone. ( I EJM never really understood why we needed that in the first place) It works now and I like it. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Cosmetic bug - icons under Windows XP
Hello, 26 Dec 2001, 7:56:28 AM, Konstantin Volenbovsky wrote: KV There are two variants of menu navigator icon under XP: KV 1) It isn't shown at all, but when clicking on the place where it KV should, it opens. KV 2)It is shown in the usual Windows style. KV TB beta 19 on Windows NT 5.1 The problem with XP: it's buggy itself. MS doesn't care about fixing bugs up to release. So you can really deal with any version of Windows (and any kind of *commercial* software - Delphi is included :)) approximately in year after first release. Before this period you would just try to break a wall near the place, where should (and will) be a door. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Cosmetic bug - icons under Windows XP
Hello, 27 Dec 2001, 12:12:51 PM, Konstantin Volenbovsky wrote: KV The discussion is not about MS bugs - it is offtopic discussion. The KV issue is that The Bat must be XP optimized. My point is: you can't optimize application for something which is *not ready* yet. Try to optimize something for TB! now... and *reoptimize* for next Beta. It doesn't make any sense - to optimize something for XP *now*. After all, XP *must* work at least with NT(2000) applications the same way as NT(2000). And MS is probably going to fix it. KV Because it is 10% of the OSes now and growing rapidly. If people want problem - they'll get it. But in this case they can't complain - they made choice. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Current bugs
Hello, 26 Dec 2001, 11:53:16 AM, Boris Golberg wrote: BG Hello, BG 23 Dec 2001, 9:53:50 PM, Thomas F wrote: TF Thanks, this confirms that the frames are not being closed but keep TF taking up memory. They are just not visible, as they are behind the TF main TB window. This clarifies where this little bug is hiding, I TF would think. BG You can't see them, so you can't close them. We got another memory BG leak.:( Am I wrong? It's definitely a memory leak. I just was closing TB! and could see pictures preview windows, closing one by one. :( -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Hahaha! this one killed me :)
Hello, 25 Dec 2001, 4:30:28 AM, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: SC Seems a system reboot fixed the problem. So far as I understand, Help itself is maintained by OS. Application just calls it with some parameters and then has nothing to do with it. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: F2
Hello, 24 Dec 2001, 9:50:56 AM, Peter Hampf wrote: PH collapse all accounts. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #3. PH Goto account #2, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2. PH Goto account #3, press F2 - TB will get mail from account #2!! PH Reproducable at will here. Can't confirm. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Ctrl-] doesn't work if focus is in header (main window view)
Hello, 26 Dec 2001, 11:45:21 AM, Boris Golberg wrote: BG Ctrl-] or Ctrl-Alt-Right doesn't work if focus is in header panel BG (main window view). Works fine in separate window view. There is the same story with focusing on in-window picture view. :( -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - HTML bug report - META CHARSET HEADER
Hello, 25 Dec 2001, 4:33:05 AM, SyP wrote: S The bug description: S The Bat! disregards the charset information entered in the HTML's S HEAD section. S Steps to reproduce the bug: S See the attached example. It contains the following in the header: S meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 S The Bat!'s RTV still shows the HTML in ISO-8859-1. Confirmed. And IE shows attached HTML correctly. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: looking for best method of filtering spam on the server with TB
Hello, 26 Dec 2001, 1:28:55 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: JR As I understand it, selective downloading has 2 drawbacks: JR (1) once a msg is deleted @ this level its gone JR permanently (so an incorrect filter could delete a valid JR msg) But you can Ignore them instead of Kill. If you have Account - Properties - Mail management - Leave messages on server - Keep messages on server for ... days set up, you can within this period do Account - Dispatch mail on server - All messages and download message you need (if you don't realize you need it - you probably don't need it :)). And if you set up Account - Properties - Mail management - Mail dispatcher - Invoke automatically at each mail check you can check (and change) result of your Selective downloads filters *before* they actually do something. JR (2) it slows down your download as TB! first has to select JR the appropriate msgs on the server before dl/ing the rest. But downloading spam slows it down mach more. :) JR (3) Putting all SPAM in a common folder allows you to dbl JR check before final deletion. The goal of filtering spam - is *do not* spend time to look at it. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - bug report
Hello, 26 Dec 2001, 3:52:52 AM, Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote: KK Save as doesn't work at all. Works from Main window, from separate window view and from edit message window. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello, 21 Dec 2001, 8:58:48 PM, Maurice Snellen wrote: MS 1) It would be interesting to have new folders inherit their column MS settings from the parent folder below which they are created. Now I am surprised we don't have it yet. :) This is a pretty standard feature. And this is a standard in OOP. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
Hello, 22 Dec 2001, 6:27:09 AM, Allie C Martin wrote: ACM I've never threaded by sender, but are you saying that in former ACM versions, threads containing new messages would be moved to the top of ACM the message list, leading to easy retrievability? Yes, we are. It was *very* convenient. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[4]: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
Hello, 22 Dec 2001, 6:46:48 PM, Alexander Leschinsky wrote: AL JFYI: It was bugfix for beta 15 AL -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= AL [*] Oldest messages are used as thread roots for threading by AL subject/from/to AL -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= AL 2Jerry - OK, now I saw your technique and I grok it (but it can't work AL after beta 15 - and it is NOT a bug, but fix of old glitch with AL additional side-effect) This side-effect looks more like a bug. And implementing it by purpose of fixing another bug doesn't making it ok. Let call it mistake or however you want to call it, but it's *no good*. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
Hello, 22 Dec 2001, 9:18:28 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: The way it's being done is illogical. Here is the way a 5-message thread is being sorted with V1.54 beta 19: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:19:55 EST Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:07:38 EST Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:34:08 EST Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:34:49 -0500 Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:49:29 EST DAC what do you do with this? DAC first message 1800 DAC reply 1,1 1820 reply 1,2 1830 DAC reply 1,1,1 1831 reply 1,2,1 1835 DAC reply 1,1,1,1 1840 reply 1,2,1,1 1840 DAC reply 1,2,1,2 1840 reply 1,3 1840 You are talking about treading by references (or standard). We was talking about treading by from (or another nonstandard). Different threading have different logic and should be treated differently. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Sorting when threading by Sender is activated
Hello, 22 Dec 2001, 6:07:52 AM, Ethan J. Mings wrote: EJM Golden rule, leave the user no worst off after the change than before. EJM PS. If I sound frustrated, I just can believe after 19 betas, we are EJM still trying to find a solution for a non issue. Please fix for the EJM next beta! They just don't think it's a bug! May be they don't use nonstandard threading?! :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Reply button still does not work
Hello, 22 Dec 2001, 11:25:51 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: DH Some of us experince(d) the problem that TB! completely freezes when DH one tries to reply to a message via the reply button. The Edit window DH comes up but doesn't get filled, after that TB! blocks everything. DH Luckily you can kill the task and Windows is quite alright. You can DH even open up TB! again and work with the new instance. Can't remember myself having this problem. But I expect things like this from Windows. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Reply button still does not work
Hello, 22 Dec 2001, 2:05:22 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC My wish would be that if I blocked text in a message, then hit the DAC reply button I would get the same result as I get with F4. Agree. And thank you, I've learned very useful hint from you. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/19 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Start minimized and new messages in Inbox bugs (was 1.54 Beta/17)
Hello, 20 Dec 2001, 3:45:29 AM, Peter Gannushkin wrote: PG 2. Every now and then TB doesn't show new mail in Inbox. I need to PG click on the folder to make Inbox show it. Does it happen *only* than you start TB! minimized? -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/18 or Mayhem is Delayed :-)
Hello, 20 Dec 2001, 2:51:59 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: ST We've decided to delay the release of the new version and continue ST this Beta series. I am impressed. It's a *right* decision. It could be (!) even bad for sales, but it's *right*. ST I think we will make a voting system for Beta ST testers at our Beta Tester's site for testing readiness for release, I ST guess this would help to avoid many boos :-) I don't believe democracy at all, but it's popular... At least *don't* do it anonymous. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/18 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Bug? (more an annoyance)
Hello, 19 Dec 2001, 11:19:49 PM, Jody Watts wrote: JW When I am typing a message (in beta 17), and I use a word not in the JW spelling dictionary it gets a red squiggly line under it. If I then JW right click on the word and choose IGNORE ALL, the lines don't JW disappear. Confirmed. :( Doesn't work in Beta/14 as well. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
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Hello All, Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 After all, why is it not a beta/17? :) -- Best regards, Boris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Can anybody made some additional tests
Hello, 20 Dec 2001, 12:03:44 AM, Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA Hello Alexander, JA An archeological dig discovered that on Thursday, December 20, 2001 at JA 10:11 GMT +0500, Alexander Leschinsky [AL] typed the following: AL Click Options, Preferences, System, Browse. AL The focus is no longer on The Bat! Minimise by right clicking on The AL Bat! icon in system tray and selecting minimise. The Preferences AL dialog and directory tree window then appear. JA Confirmed. See footers for system details. JA The Preferences dialogue and the folder selection dialogue both get JA pushed behind the TB main window. The focus is on the folder JA selection dialogue, it is just pushed to the back. Press Alt-F4 twice JA to regain control of TB (ie, use the Windows shortcut to close both JA dialogues). If you make the TB window very small and move it to the JA side, what I'm describing can be seen very easily. Just tested it from home on Windows 98 4.10. A Russian. Closed all switcheble tasks and followed instructions. Result exactly like Januk described. Just two additional notes: If you have TB! icon in a task bar instead of system tray you are not able to minimize TB! main window by right-clicking on it - menu just not appears. You can return to TB! by pressing ESC twice. :) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/17 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: beta/16
Hello, 16 Dec 2001, 2:32:42 PM, Günther Eisele wrote: GE TB! extracts the attachment from a mail. Gives it to the plugin. AV GE removes the virus. Attachment is imported back to TB!. Mail is clean. The GE virus scanners I know either check the data 'stream' coming from a pop3 GE server (but are not able to manipulate it), or they scan file 'on access' GE (in this case, the messages.tbb). I can't imagine that it's possible to GE let a virus scanner directly remove a virus from an attachment in the GE messages.tbb, because the file is normally locked through TB! and/or the GE removing would destroy the structure of the messages.tbb. I believe, TB! puts message into temporary file first and AV can catch it there. My AVP did it, but I didn't try to clean this file, just deleted - nothing was destroyed, I didn't get infected message and that's it. And if you store attachments separately AV definitely can check it and even clean it up with no problem. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: %macros in cookie lines?
Hello, 15 Dec 2001, 4:27:13 PM, Januk Aggarwal wrote: M WHAAAT?? Pardon my exclamation, but I don't really look forward to M having 439 files for my taglines @_@ JA ... JA Having said that, there are some advantages of this work-around. JA ... But it's still extremely *not* a good idea - to have few hundreds small files just for making your mail nicer. It's a *big* performance overhead (not only for TB!, but for haul you system), because FAT is not optimized to work with *large* amount of files. And each file would occupy at least 512 bytes (2-4K in average, and sometimes more). This is not a major problem - space is cheap, but... -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: When is new Beta coming?
Hello, 14 Dec 2001, 11:34:09 AM, Krzysztof Kudlacik wrote: I don't care about common folders yet: it's under construction KK If common folders are available in beta 15, then they should'nt be KK under construction. Quite opposite =] I can't find it right now, but I remember somebody (probably Alexander or Stefan) wrote in this list, that *real* Global Office will not be implemented in version 1.54. Am I wrong? -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Address book won't update
Hello Rudy, 12 Dec 2001, 2:10:24 PM, you wrote: RW Just thought I'd let everyone know that it WASN'T The Bat! But there are still at least two bugs in AB, as I reported before: you can't add record with the same primary address and have some troubles with adding record from *.vcf file. :( -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[3]: Slow message finder
Hello Marc, Where are you keeping attachments? I mean Account - Properties - Files Directories - Keep attachment files. I am keeping it in a separate directory, you are probably in a message body, and probably it makes difference. -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: wishes about Mail Ticker
Hello Syafril, 7 Dec 2001, 10:27:39 AM, you wrote: SH after I click one of SH this message then all new ticker message will view on message list SH (have you activate message list view ?). I probably haven't. What is this? 8-) -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/15 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The Bat! - bug report - Mebu navigator
Hello MaXxX, 6 Dec 2001, 1:05:02 PM, you wrote: M Not a big difference really... You right. But just information: you get F-s under 98 and 0-s - under NT (I have 98 at home and NT in office). -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Latest Beta: 1.54 beta/15 Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com