Re: Newbie questions
Hallo BillG, On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:26:54 -0400 GMT (10/09/00, 12:26 +0800 GMT), BillG wrote: B 1) Is there no NewMail indicator? I see the animated icon and the B Ticker - but they are triggered by Unread mail, not NEW mail. OK, The Bat! assumes that any unread mail is "new". Therefore, "unread" and "new" messages are treated the same way. However, if you have found how to indicate by sound when a new mail has arrived, you can also create a filter catching all incoming messages and run an external program (Account/Sorting Office/Incoming Mail/New). As "filering string" in "rule" you choose a catch-all, for example "@" present in 'kludges' (TB's word for 'headers'). Then under the Action tab, you click on "Run external program" and have your coffee machine make a double espresso. ;-) B 2) Why can't I rearrange the order of my folders? Hold down the ALT key while dragging them. B 3) I can't find a "view source" function. I see that I can view the B RFC-822 headers - that is good. But I'd like to be able to view the B entire raw data of any message. Is that possible? Every other mail B reader that I've used has that ability. Email: headers + body = raw message. HTML: some picture thing. However, if you tick Options/External Image Viewer, any HTML attachment will open in you favourite browser in which you can view the source. B 4) the built-in html viewer doesn't seem to work very well? B I get weather reports and comics and such from infobeat.com. B They come in HTML form. TheBat can't seem to render the files. B Why? Netscape mail, Eudora, OE, all render those messages just fine. The viewer works perfectly, only in TB. If the images are sent with the message, they will be shown. However, often enough they are not, and the email client is required to conntact to the internet and "get" these images. NS, Eudora and OE do that, and we dont' like it: it's a security problem. We don't want TB to do this. B 5) Is the toolbar configurable? I can't see how to do it. AFAIK I think it's not configurable. But we do have a wish list. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
Hello Bill, On Saturday, September 09, 2000 at 00:26:54 GMT -0400 (which was 9:26 PM where I live) witnesses say BillG typed: 1) Is there no NewMail indicator? I see the animated icon and the Ticker - but they are triggered by Unread mail, not NEW mail. Nope. The closest you can get is to mark "old" unread messages with a different colour group, using the flag or park options. Then mark your old unread messages as read. There are many disadvantages to this strategies, but its the closest you can get right now. 2) Why can't I rearrange the order of my folders? They appear in the order that they were created, and I can't fugure out how to re-order them. Hold down the ALT key while dragging with the mouse. To make a folder a child folder of another folder, use ALT-CTRL and drag. 3) I can't find a "view source" function. I think you have to export the message and view it using your favourite text editor. 4) the built-in html viewer doesn't seem to work very well? TB renders HTML properly, it just will not go onto the net to search for graphics, etc. If the pictures are sent along with the message, then TB will display them correctly. There are several reasons, one of them being: Some spammers will send an HTML message with a reference to a small graphic with a unique name. When their server registers a hit on that file, they know that your address is active. I usually leave the HTML auto-view turned off. When I get a message where I want to see the formatted version, I just double click on the attachment icon to view it in my default browser. I wouldn't want RIT to spend any time working on the HTML rendering engine. However, I wonder how much work it is to make use of the IE engine? I know several programs that do this to incorporate browser capabilities. 5) Is the toolbar configurable? I can't see how to do it. Not yet. It is supposedly going to be in Version 2. But don't hold your breath waiting for *everything* that is rumoured to be in the works for V2. The lack of a NewMail indicator, and the HTML viewer problem might be show-stoppers (if I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong). -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
Hallo David, On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:16:22 -0700 GMT (10/09/00, 13:16 +0800 GMT), David Tod Sigafoos wrote: DTS TB does not do html email because they believe that email shouldn't be DTS able to do html. Guess I just confirmed what you say. DTS Of course they are rumored to do newsreader coming It's a rumour. I don't believe in it. However, it will not be part of the email program, that's for sure. DTS But that shouldn't stop you from using TB. It does seem to be the DTS best out there. Glad you said that. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi BillG, On 10 September 2000 at 00:26:54 GMT -0400 (which was 05:26 where I live) BillG wrote and made these points on the subject of "Newbie questions": B 1) Is there no NewMail indicator? I see the animated icon and the B Ticker - but they are triggered by Unread mail, not NEW mail. The ticker, when in use, has the option "Age limits". This allows you to configure it to only show *new* unread mesages. IMHO the other answers you have received are spot-on and I won't bother restating them. The only thing I will do is endorse the comment that TB does not use browser "GET" technology to retrieve non-included graphics because it is not right that it should. TB is an off-line reader. "GET" is an on-line function. QED. Any "get with the trend" type statement ridiculing the way TB does this are misleading and inaccurate. The *majority* of TB users would be unhappy if this methodology were to change for reasons of security, bandwidth and call costs when retrieving extra images. It is very easy to simply double-click the icon for the HTML to launch the system default browser for full HTML view - even easier than Thomas indicates ... there is no need to change any settings. Personally, I delete HTML attachments and keep the plain text. B That's it. I really DO like this tool. I LOVE the strong filtering B (it is at least as good as the Eudora filtering). The whole B template thing is VERY cool. Eudora can't even spell "template". :) You are certainly on the right track here. Once you marry Address Book templates with Quick Templates and the %QINCLUDE macro you suddenly enter a whole new realm of flexibility. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] COLE'S LAW: Thinly sliced cabbage TB! v1.46 Beta/5 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBObtFXTnkJKuSnc2gEQKRgACg3kKRbfL7BmdO+fE7G42UATkKW4wAoIvK ZDvhQat5BNV+xeWoEC5J7GFy =tFqx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Addressbook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I'm new to The Bat!, so I could be asking something really silly. I'm working on my address book. I've been using Netscape 4.7 and all the addresses are located in NS. I've been trying to import these into The Bat!, but for some reason that doesn't seem to work. So I decided to fill the address book by hand (right :( ). Now my next problem arises. There are people with more than one e-mail address, and I can't figure out how to enter multiple address for one person. I've been trying separating them with semi-columns, each address on a separate line, but whenever I create a new message for that person I can't choose between the addresses. Does anyone has the answer for me? Even importing the ns-addressbook might solve the problem, because that would save me a lot of time typing. - - -- Cheers, Marcel... pgpkey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest iQA/AwUBObtBYJtVOcettUE+EQLdqgCgkx1iVMitsmd1zAxxUDyFdmZeHKMAoJe5 3xz/qKPO1YY3k72ZB7zuhrqR =G4Fm - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest iQA/AwUBObtBd5tVOcettUE+EQIctQCdHOLZuotAak5vKqu0D0ZK0Wgql3sAn1E+ yLAGPTN4Ju2V3ipEHv3Yn5rc =Pg7y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Addressbook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I'm new to The Bat!, so I could be asking something really silly. I'm working on my address book. I've been using Netscape 4.7 and all the addresses are located in NS. I've been trying to import these into The Bat!, but for some reason that doesn't seem to work. So I decided to fill the address book by hand (right :( ). Now my next problem arises. There are people with more than one e-mail address, and I can't figure out how to enter multiple address for one person. I've been trying separating them with semi-columns, each address on a separate line, but whenever I create a new message for that person I can't choose between the addresses. Does anyone has the answer for me? Even importing the ns-addressbook might solve the problem, because that would save me a lot of time typing. - - -- Cheers, Marcel... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest iQA/AwUBObtB8ptVOcettUE+EQLjdwCgpyAbvyHdc+ZHtnGVCV+s87f27AEAoJrC Lh+LB58+r49OcvGwZskgHrRa =GORj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: UnInstall
Hi Curt, Saturday, September 09, 2000, 9:27:50 PM, you wrote: C Horrors. I recommended TheBat! to an associate for whom the program C was simply too overwhelming. So, she uninstalled it. It appears, C however, that the uninstall does not return file associates to their C previous state. For example, .msg attachments cry out for TheBat! C Any direct way out of this? I concluded that the simplest thing for C her to do was reinstall Outlook Express; that should, perhaps, reset C all of the associations. Open Windows Explorer, find a *.msg file, Shift then Right Click, select Open With, when the dialogue appears select C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe, also tick the box which says "Always open With". Repeat for *.eml -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Addressbook
Hi Marcel, Sunday, September 10, 2000, 10:10:03 AM, you wrote: M I'm new to The Bat!, so I could be asking something really silly. M I'm working on my address book. I've been using Netscape 4.7 and all M the addresses are located in NS. M I've been trying to import these into The Bat!, but for some reason M that doesn't seem to work. You should not need to do this by hand, export your address book from Netscape as an *.ldif file, The Bat! will import this without any editing required, you don't even have to select fields. Address Book, File|Import From|LDIF File -- Mark Aston mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gunfleet.com http://www.gunfleet.com/LinuxGuide Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 Under Windows NT 5 0 Service Pack 1 2195 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Addressbook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marcel, On 10 September 2000 at 11:10:03 GMT +0200 (which was 10:10 where I live) Marcel wrote and made these points on the subject of "Addressbook": M Now my next problem arises. There are people with more than one M e-mail address, and I can't figure out how to enter multiple M address for one person. This is probably a mercy in disguise. Although you can enter multiple email addresses in the address field using a separate line for each but I don't think this would achieve the result you may have expected. M I've been trying separating them with semi-columns, each address on M a separate line, but whenever I create a new message for that M person I can't choose between the addresses. No, and nor would you. TB only uses multiple addresses in the address book by addressing a message to *all* addresses listed, either directly of in BCC. It is more appropriate in the TB universe to have a separate AB entry for each address, i.e. Jeff (at home) ... etc, Jeff (at work) ... etc. When addressing a message type "Jeff" then use Ctrl-Plus to toggle your way through matching address book entries to retrieve the one you want in real time. HTH - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. TB! v1.46 Beta/5 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBObtnETnkJKuSnc2gEQLY7ACfTRFOHBneKJ8X9shEKTV8ridD1QEAoJSg ZdpVQYgM0B30vTgfcNQ9b1aZ =3/Dx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
On Saturday, September 09, 2000, 10:16:22 PM, David wrote: Just take it in and realize that some people like to stand in the way of a raging tide :-). It would be nice if it was switchable but until they realize that email does/will contain html and graphic pointers ... I don't see anyone standing in the way of any tide. :-) As far as html mail is concerned, there are three different issues. First is about viewing html mail, which TB has implemented. So this should be no issue. Oh, you may think TB hasn't "fully" implemented html mail viewing, judging by the fact that many graphics in html mail are not displayed. It's a matter of security and privacy concerns (have you read news reports about how spammer could use linked graphics to trace your online activities?). It's a developer's choice, and a fine choice it is, IMHO! (Graphics embedded in the mail are displayed just fine, as you should have known.) You may argue that TB should give users a choice to take the chance and go fetch linked graphics anyway. The counter arguments would be equally strong, however, if not stronger. For starters, enabling that choice could be a support nightmare for RIT, which has very limited human resources. Judging from the number of brave souls who continue to use Outlook despite all those security concerns, the potential of such nightmare is indeed very high. Second, as others have pointed out, launching your favorite browser to view the message is just one click away. HTML is an ever-evolving thing. Given the myriad of standards and proprietary-yet-popular extensions out there with which even dedicated (and much larger) browser developers (Opera software and such) have problems keeping up, TB's html viewing implementation has to stop somewhere. For me (and many Bat users, I believe), TB's current implementation is good enough. Lastly, there is the issue of html mail editing/sending. Should TB try to be a html editor? I don't think so. Again, this is a matter of resource management. It's no small feat trying to incorporate a html editor. Given the fact that there are many such programs out there, I see no reason for RIT trying to be another also-run. With the newest MAPI support in beta, you can easily send html mail from your browser or MAPI-enabled editor, and that should be enough. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
On Sunday, September 10, 2000, 1:24:55 AM, Marck wrote: B 1) Is there no NewMail indicator? I see the animated icon and B the Ticker - but they are triggered by Unread mail, not NEW B mail. The ticker, when in use, has the option "Age limits". This allows you to configure it to only show *new* unread mesages. Plus, if you filter mail from mailing lists into different folders, you may set via folder properties that unread messages in such folders are not shown in the ticker. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Addressbook
On Sunday, September 10, 2000, 3:48:44 AM, Marck wrote: No, and nor would you. TB only uses multiple addresses in the address book by addressing a message to *all* addresses listed, either directly of in BCC. It is more appropriate in the TB universe to have a separate AB entry for each address, i.e. Jeff (at home) ... etc, Jeff (at work) ... etc. This is a major pain. While it works, it clutters the address book. More importantly, it makes management more difficult, for information about a person (physical addres, phone no., etc.) isn't put in one place, and you'll have to maintain several set of templates for one person. :-( I know, it's not your fault and you're just trying to help. Just can't help not to whine a little. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Newbie questions
On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 22:16:22 -0700, David Tod Sigafoos wrote: David Hello BillG, David TB does not do html email because they believe that email shouldn't be David able to do html. Of course they are rumored to do newsreader coming David and have many do render html (except for the graphics) but pooh pooh David on what is becoming standard. I don't see any developer philosophy that "email shouldn't be able to do html." TheBat! renders html just fine. What it doesn't do is perform gets for embedded links within the html. For that reason I use TheBat! as my only email client. David Just take it in and realize that some people like to stand in the way David of a raging tide :-). It would be nice if it was switchable but until David they realize that email does/will contain html and graphic pointers David ... Raging tide? I've missed that. Those who are really concerned about security and privacy issues have turned to TheBat! for a level of protection from insidious email content. If you want/need this exposure, Microsoft and its Outlook family will be more than happy to help satisfy you. Outlook and other fully capable html-renderers will be happy to execute embedded code, honor Web bugs, and other wonderful concepts introduced by the leader in security-blind products. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 04:45:26 -0700, Ming-Li wrote: ML Oh, you may think TB hasn't "fully" implemented html mail viewing, ML judging by the fact that many graphics in html mail are not ML displayed. It's a matter of security and privacy concerns (have you ML read news reports about how spammer could use linked graphics to ML trace your online activities?). It's a developer's choice, and a ML fine choice it is, IMHO! (Graphics embedded in the mail are ML displayed just fine, as you should have known.) I have quite a few HTML messages here that were sent with the graphics included. They displayed beautifully. ML You may argue that TB should give users a choice to take the chance ML and go fetch linked graphics anyway. The counter arguments would be ML equally strong, however, if not stronger. For starters, enabling ML that choice could be a support nightmare for RIT, which has very ML limited human resources. Judging from the number of brave souls who ML continue to use Outlook despite all those security concerns, the ML potential of such nightmare is indeed very high. Second, as others ML have pointed out, launching your favorite browser to view the ML message is just one click away. Indeed. Well said. :-) ML HTML is an ever-evolving thing. Given the myriad of standards and ML proprietary-yet-popular extensions out there with which even ML dedicated (and much larger) browser developers (Opera software and ML such) have problems keeping up, TB's html viewing implementation has ML to stop somewhere. For me (and many Bat users, I believe), TB's ML current implementation is good enough. This is a very valid point. Netscape Mail and OE will fetch images via links in HTML messages via their browser partners rendering engines. Eudora, AFAIK, uses the rendering engine of IE (correct me if I'm wrong here). The problem with using IE as a rendering engine is that the user needs to have IE installed. ML Lastly, there is the issue of html mail editing/sending. Should TB ML try to be a html editor? I don't think so. Again, this is a matter ML of resource management. It's no small feat trying to incorporate a ML html editor. Given the fact that there are many such programs out ML there, I see no reason for RIT trying to be another also-run. With ML the newest MAPI support in beta, you can easily send html mail from ML your browser or MAPI-enabled editor, and that should be enough. The users accustomed to a monolithic approach may frown at this point though it's a very good one. By monolithic, I mean that the application, an e-mail client in this instance, is self contained and able to do most if not all things e-mail related. This is in contrast to the modular approach where specialised independent apps are used in conjunction with the e-mail client to produce a similar effect, though usually a more robust and user definable one. -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "If you're not confused, you're not paying attention. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
On Sunday, September 10, 2000, 5:27:20 AM, A. wrote: This is a very valid point. Netscape Mail and OE will fetch images via links in HTML messages via their browser partners rendering engines. Eudora, AFAIK, uses the rendering engine of IE (correct me if I'm wrong here). The problem with using IE as a rendering engine is that the user needs to have IE installed. Not only that, by doing so they also inherit IE's susceptibility to bugs and viruses. The users accustomed to a monolithic approach may frown at this point though it's a very good one. By monolithic, I mean that the application, an e-mail client in this instance, is self contained and able to do most if not all things e-mail related. This is in contrast to the modular approach where specialised independent apps are used in conjunction with the e-mail client to produce a similar effect, though usually a more robust and user definable one. I'm not really against the monolithic approach as you defined. It's fine with me should RIT decide to incorporate a html/richtext editor in TB, though I have very little use of it. Given the long list of improvement expected for v2 and the extremely limited resources, however, I sincerely think it's not wise for RIT to do so. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Addressbook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On September 10, 2000, at 5:17:17 AM, Ming-Li Wrote: This is a major pain. While it works, it clutters the address book. More importantly, it makes management more difficult, for information about a person (physical addres, phone no., etc.) isn't put in one place, and you'll have to maintain several set of templates for one person. :-( I also agree that having to create separate AB entries for individuals with more than one E-Mail address is a nuisance. It would be nice if RITLabs could emulate Eudora's method of handling the same issue. With Eudora, you address the message to the individual, and then simply right click the address in the To: field, where you are presented with a list of addresses associated with that one entry. Nick N.J. Andriash [ TB! v1.46 Beta 5 | PGP 6.5.8 | Win 98 v4.10 ] Vancouver, B.C. Canada | PGP Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop Security 6.5.8 Comment: Join PGP-Basics at http://www.egroups.com/group/PGP-Basics iQA/AwUBObuxZMUChHR7o/3OEQKpNgCgqoD6aL5Sii47AnBtVt5R6lM/hM0AoMuE mSpXQ/z2SpdoTM5MLK+oxgoq =+1RP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Newbie questions
Hello Ming-Li, Sunday, September 10, 2000, 4:45:26 AM, you wrote: snip WOW .. talk about bandwidth g Actually IF there is a worry about security etc it would be very simple to have a switch (option, user preference etc) for retrieve or don't retrieve. No be huha. Developers choice .. it is also a developers choice to use the registry to store info, it is also a developers choice to hard code the attachment location (full path including drive) in the mail. These are all developers choices and fine ones they are. As I mentioned it would be very easy to make this optional .. YES? -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Newbie questions
Hello Curt, snip I am glad that TB developers have been charged with saving me. Have you ever heard of choice? Preference of 'do you want to get or not'. But at least I got all the replies I thought would happen G. I always find it amazing how people get 'up' for this subject. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
On Sunday, September 10, 2000, 9:26:48 AM, David wrote: WOW .. talk about bandwidth g I don't think I mentioned anything about bandwidth, did I? Actually IF there is a worry about security etc it would be very simple to have a switch (option, user preference etc) for retrieve or don't retrieve. No be huha. I think I answered that in my last message (in the paragraph about support nightmare), and I hate to repeat myself. -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:29:53 -0700, David Tod Sigafoos wrote: DTS I am glad that TB developers have been charged with saving me. Have DTS you ever heard of choice? Preference of 'do you want to get or not'. Yes, we all know about choice. The problem, however, is that for you to get the choice, the two or more choices have to be made available and therefore implemented. If the developers chose to implement one way because they lack the resources to implement both or have simply made a development path decision, then I'm glad they have chosen the secure implementation. DTS But at least I got all the replies I thought would happen G. I DTS always find it amazing how people get 'up' for this subject. Yes, many on this list are passionate in their views surrounding this particular issue. :-) -- A. Curtis Martin.. Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA | PGP Key ID: 0xEE079937 PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey --- ** "Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. " Using TB! v1.46 Beta/5 «» Win2k Pro SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
I wrote: 1) Is there no NewMail indicator? The ticker "age limits" are a not-so-great attempt to accomplish what I need. Most readers will display something like a small envelope in the system tray when new mail has shown up at the pop server. That indicator disappears as soon as the reader is opened That is a very rudimentary function that TheBat doesn't have. I guess I'll have to get over it. 2) Why can't I rearrange the order of my folders? Hold Shift while moving. Got it. 3) I can't find a "view source" function. Again, I consider a "view-source" function a rudimentary feature that TB is missing. Exporting and viewing externally works, but the feature really should be built in. I'll get over this too. 4) the built-in html viewer doesn't seem to work very well? I get weather reports and comics and such from infobeat.com. They come in HTML form. TheBat can't seem to render the files. Why? Netscape mail, Eudora, OE, all render those messages just fine. Lot's of discussion on this! :-) I understand both sides of this controversy. I think the best solution is to give users the choice of retrieving if they choose. Eudora actually does this. It has an option of using Microsoft's viewer. That does introduce huge security problems, but the option is there. For now, I can easily open the html attachment in my browser. No big deal. 5) Is the toolbar configurable? I can't see how to do it. This is the least of my concerns, but it would be nice. Version 2 might include it? Hope so. When is version 2 gonna be out? Also, I would LOVE to have a Timed Queuing system, like Eudora. Eudora allows you to specify a time and date to automatically send out each queued message. That is an AWESOME feature. While Eudora does have some nice features, there are too many things about it that I don't like. Hey! Everybody! Thanks for all the help! This a cool mailing list! Bill (soon to ex-)newbie -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi BillG, On 10 September 2000 at 13:30:50 GMT -0400 (which was 18:30 where I live) BillG wrote and made these points on the subject of "Newbie questions": 3) I can't find a "view source" function. B Again, I consider a "view-source" function a rudimentary feature B that TB is missing. Exporting and viewing externally works, but the B feature really should be built in. I'll get over this too. Did you try Ctrl-Shift-K (view RFCheaders) as suggested? In what way does that not match "View Source" functionality (apart from not showing attachment's in the raw)? 5) Is the toolbar configurable? I can't see how to do it. B This is the least of my concerns, but it would be nice. Version 2 B might include it? Hope so. It is slated to do so in the interview which is published on Leif Gregory's www.pcwize.com web site. B When is version 2 gonna be out? Aha! The $64m question! B Also, I would LOVE to have a Timed Queuing system, like Eudora. B Eudora allows you to specify a time and date to automatically send B out each queued message. That is an AWESOME feature. I agree. B Hey! Everybody! Thanks for all the help! This a cool mailing list! Hey - thanks! B Bill (soon to ex-)newbie g - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY ] What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? TB! v1.46 Beta/5 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness! iQA/AwUBObvTgjnkJKuSnc2gEQJRoQCfRxyR3ixWtuAq9tbOfsA6fSMiYgwAnjdk TCSDup7mOrTFHrBY5OUzSYu9 =cv15 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
2 Q from a Bat-newbie
HI, 2 questions without answers in the FAQ: (or I wuz too silly to find them :) ) a) How do I convince my 'Bat_' to mirror _all_ messages in the IMAP folders in the IMAP server? (and to keep them up2date?) b) How do I switch off the [2] etc. numbering with replies? Greetings from Germany OG -- Oliver Gassner Literatur Online: http://www.carpe.com Voice: 07042 978272 -- Fax 07042 940656 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Security first, please
I like the Bat because it does NOT tie everything together as does M$. This adds a degree of security that is important to me. I am less vulnerable to the hoards of hackers who want to make yet another virus so they can boast to their friends how good they are. I don't really need to see my email in 16,000 ever-changing colors - plain ASCII text is just fine for delivering the message. In many years of reading email, I can't think of ONE instance where the fancy formatting has added to the 'information content'. People who want to have all this should use M$, not the Bat. Easy choice for me. Security first... ztrader -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Security first, please
Ciao ztrader, Sunday, September 10, 2000, 7:26:00 PM, you wrote: Agree to ALL, for beautiful images, there are attachments ! :-) z I like the Bat because it does NOT tie everything together as does M$. z This adds a degree of security that is important to me. I am less z vulnerable to the hoards of hackers who want to make yet another virus z so they can boast to their friends how good they are. -- Bye,Bye... TIME di Stefano Zamprogno Via A.Bonetto,6 31044 Montebelluna Treviso P.IVA: 02297230266 *Riparazioni di Orologeria* E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 3813299 WEB: http://www.zamprogno.com - http://www.zamprogno.it -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Addressbook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, Sunday, September 10, 2000, 11:53:22 AM, you wrote: MA You should not need to do this by hand, export your address book from MA Netscape as an *.ldif file, The Bat! will import this without any MA editing required, you don't even have to select fields. MA Address Book, File|Import From|LDIF File Thanx that did the trick. Totally forgot to look at the export options of NS. Thanx for the tip. - -- Cheers, Marcel... | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest | PGP Key ID: 0xADB5413E --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest iQA/AwUBObuXNptVOcettUE+EQKv4wCeJLC93SnmSbPV3MVYWhe5RwcP4jcAoLw9 75hmJxPf0T0IHeqgIoc47xOh =r6f/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Addressbook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, Sunday, September 10, 2000, 12:48:44 PM, you wrote: M I've been trying separating them with semi-columns, each address on M a separate line, but whenever I create a new message for that M person I can't choose between the addresses. MDP No, and nor would you. TB only uses multiple addresses in the address MDP book by addressing a message to *all* addresses listed, either MDP directly of in BCC. It is more appropriate in the TB universe to have MDP a separate AB entry for each address, i.e. Jeff (at home) ... etc, MDP Jeff (at work) ... etc. I was afraid I had to do that again :( I already used multiple entries for multiple addresses, but I had hoped to shorten the list now. Thanx for your reply. - -- Cheers, Marcel... | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest | PGP Key ID: 0xADB5413E --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: Public key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpkeyrequest iQA/AwUBObuW1ptVOcettUE+EQIPrgCgxUJ4/B7e0h0fjp8ci1suYIJ/vNYAnjmO wOTNUXPAcqn8dMM0cfX57smC =M+cW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Language support/dictionary
Hello TBUDL, Can anyone tell me how I can change my dictionary from US English to Australian English? I've the FAQ and "How DoI", but I can't find how to do this. Any help and assistance will be greatly appreciated. -- Best regards, David in Australia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NetscapeTB!folderdefault template
Hi Januk On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, 15:42:12 your local time (GMT -0700), you wrote to the list: JA Hello Paula, JA On Saturday, September 09, 2000 at 17:07:07 GMT -0400 (which was 2:07 PM JA where I live) witnesses say Paula Ford typed: The mailto thing has never bothered me, but then I don't click on mailto links much. On the rare occasions that I do, if the wrong template pops up, I simply cancel and pick a folder whose template I want the message to use. JA You know, this hasn't been a problem for me. What I did was put all JA folders that have folder templates into a dummy account. My main JA account has "This account is default for Mailto: URLs" selected. JA This way I never have the problem referenced here. Can you explain what your last paragraph means? I'm not getting the concept. -- TIA, Jack LaRosamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alabama, USA Message created 2:35:53 PM (GMT-6) on Sunday, September 10, 2000 = Using The Bat! ver. 1.45 (reg) under Windows 98 ver.4.10 build Service Pack A = -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Language support/dictionary
Hello David, On Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 10:19:04 GMT +1000 (which was 5:19 PM where I live) witnesses say David typed: Can anyone tell me how I can change my dictionary from US English to Australian English? Have you downloaded and installed the International Pack? You can get it from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html. You may need to install the British Dictionary. I can't remember if there is an Australian dictionary. Once you've installed that with the appropriate options, open a message editor (reply to a message or create a new message), and select "Spell Checker - Language" You'll see a drop down list of all the dictionaries you have installed. Select the one you want. This setting should be remembered each time you open the message editor. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NetscapeTB!folderdefault template
Hello Jack, On Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 14:40:38 GMT -0500 (which was 12:40 PM where I live) witnesses say Jack LaRosa typed: Hi Januk On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, 15:42:12 your local time (GMT -0700), you wrote to the list: JA You know, this hasn't been a problem for me. What I did was put all JA folders that have folder templates into a dummy account. My main JA account has "This account is default for Mailto: URLs" selected. JA This way I never have the problem referenced here. Can you explain what your last paragraph means? I'm not getting the concept. Ok, let's go through this from the beginning. 1. Create your main account, call it "Joe". - Give this account the appropriate settings so that you check and send mail through this account. Under the Properties tab, select "This account is default for Mailto: URLs". To make things easier, create two Quick Templates. One should be your default New message template, and the other should be your default Reply template. You can create a Forward Template if you want. Make sure these templates are shared for all accounts. Now under Account - Properties, make the New Message Template contain the line: %QInclude="New" Under Reply: %QInclude="Reply" 2. Create your Dummy account, call it "JoeD" - In this account, specify only your identity. Don't give it any SMTP or POP settings. Also make sure that you have "Ignore Check All command" selected. Now in your default new template, use: %QInclude="New" %Account="Joe" In your default reply Template: %QInclude="Reply" %Account="Joe" 3. The filters for account "Joe" can move messages anywhere, including into the folders of Account "JoeD" -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Was: Language support/dictionary - now date / time?
Hello Monday, September 11, 2000, 9:31:34 AM, you wrote: JA Hello David, JA On Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 10:19:04 GMT +1000 (which was 5:19 PM JA where I live) witnesses say David typed: ...neatly snipped to please the Moderators...g How do you get the local time "where you live" to display in replies? What macro is this? How about local date? (for those of us on the left hand side of the International Date Line?) -- Regards John Phillips Monday, 11 September 200011:03:45 (Eastern Australian Time) Bat! version 1.45 Windows 98 Build My mail reader can beat up your mail reader. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Language support/dictionary
Hello Januk, Monday, September 11, 2000, 9:31:34 AM, you wrote: JA Hello David, JA On Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 10:19:04 GMT +1000 (which was 5:19 PM JA where I live) witnesses say David typed: Can anyone tell me how I can change my dictionary from US English to Australian English? JA Have you downloaded and installed the International Pack? You can JA get it from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html. You may JA need to install the British Dictionary. I can't remember if there is JA an Australian dictionary. JA Once you've installed that with the appropriate options, open a JA message editor (reply to a message or create a new message), and JA select "Spell Checker - Language" You'll see a drop down list of all JA the dictionaries you have installed. Select the one you want. This JA setting should be remembered each time you open the message editor. Thanks!!! That really worked well. There is An Australian English available. -- Regards, David in Australia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Time Macro (Was: Re: Was: Language support/dictionary - now date / time?)
Hello John, On Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 11:07:23 GMT +1000 (which was 6:07 PM where I live) witnesses say John Phillips typed: How do you get the local time "where you live" to display in replies? What macro is this? This uses a regular expression. The one I have is based on one developed by Marck D. Pearlstone. Include the following into your reply template: %SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS" On %ODATE at %SUBPATT="3" GMT%SUBPATT="4" (which was %OTIME where I live) witnesses say %OFROMNAME typed: How about local date? The info comes from the Headers. So if the local date is in the headers, I'm sure you could probably extract it in your templates. Unfortunately, I am only familiar with the *very* basics of regexp. For this, you'd need someone better versed. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal See header for e-mail address Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/5 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Macro (Was: Re: Was: Language support/dictionary - now date / time?)
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:20:22 -0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, September 11, 2000, 7:20:22 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Hello John, On Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 11:07:23 GMT +1000 (which was 6:07 PM where I live) witnesses say John Phillips typed: How do you get the local time "where you live" to display in replies? What macro is this? This uses a regular expression. The one I have is based on one developed by Marck D. Pearlstone. Include the following into your reply template: %SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPBLINDMATCH="%HEADERS" On %ODATE at %SUBPATT="3" GMT%SUBPATT="4" (which was %OTIME where I live) witnesses say %OFROMNAME typed: How about local date? The info comes from the Headers. So if the local date is in the headers, I'm sure you could probably extract it in your templates. Unfortunately, I am only familiar with the *very* basics of regexp. For this, you'd need someone better versed. Hello %OFROMNAME, On%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)^Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS" GMT your local time, which was %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn (GMT+0700) my local time, %OFROMNAME wrote: %Cursor %QUOTES="%SETPATTREGEXP=""(?is)(-BEGIN PGP SIGNED.*?\n(Hash:.*?\n)?\s*)?(.*?)(^(- --|--\n|-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE)|\z)""%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=""%text""%SUBPATT=""3""" And another one.. Note that GMT+0700 is hardwired into it in my case. Not sure how many people on the list had a hand in creating this one, quite a few if I remember By the way it also includes the expression to remove the pgp banners added to some msgs... Best regards, tracer -- Using theBAT 1.46 Beta/3 with Windows NT mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using FireTalk: 321338 ICQ: on request Website: www.phuketcomputers.com Our special website hosting/mailservers are now operational -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Newbie questions
Hi David, On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:29:53 -0700GMT (11/09/2000, 00:29 +0800GMT), David Tod Sigafoos wrote: DTS I am glad that TB developers have been charged with saving me. Have DTS you ever heard of choice? Preference of 'do you want to get or not'. They have been charged with spending their time on the development of the program itself, HTML being an issue when they have nothing else to do. But you figured that. ;-) DTS But at least I got all the replies I thought would happen G. I DTS always find it amazing how people get 'up' for this subject. Yep, since the big mailers all do the HTML thing, we seem to get up to protect our little world. You did touch a sensitive point, as you have noticed. g -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 2 Q from a Bat-newbie
Hi Oliver, On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:35:18 +0200GMT (11/09/2000, 03:35 +0800GMT), Oliver Gassner wrote: OG a) OG How do I convince my 'Bat_' to mirror _all_ messages in the IMAP OG folders in the IMAP server? (and to keep them up2date?) Don't know anything about IMAP, sorry. OG b) OG How do I switch off the [2] etc. numbering with replies? Add the macro %Singlere to your reply template. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org