Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[jlaikan]

Hello Ming-Li,

Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, you wrote:

ML> On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 8:26:44 AM, jlaikan wrote:

>> Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been
>> st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the
>> impression of some advertising going on.

ML> I don't think your message was stupid

Personally,I would think twice before qualifying someone or his/her
messages as stupid if he/she can appreciate and has chosen a great program like the 
Bat!.


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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[jlaikan]

Hello Ming-Li,

Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, you wrote:

ML> On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 8:26:44 AM, jlaikan wrote:

>> Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been
>> st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the
>> impression of some advertising going on.

ML> I don't think your message was stupid

If someone can appreciate and chooses a program like the Bat!,we should
think twice before qualifying him/her or his/her questions as stupid.


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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

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>>> Double-click on the MT.

AL>> Nothing happens. Does this maybe have to do that there is no new
AL>> message in my inbox but only in other folders? Message age: nothing
AL>> set.

T> Oh? If there are any messages in the MT, these are new, and these
T> should be listed in the virutal folder that opens. Of course, I have
T> set my MT to "show automtically", so if there are not new messages,
T> mine won't show.

I'd like to add the description of a "quirk" or two I've observed with
the MT (and it annoys me no end).

You get no reaction when double clicking on the "n new messages"
section of the ticker. You get no response from the system-wide hot
key to open the MT VF when the ticker is short, the "n new messages"
section is visible, the first message details aren't entirely
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Hi TBUDL,


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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Thomas]

Hi Alexander,

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:17:35 +0100GMT (26/02/2001, 03:17 +0800GMT),
Alexander Levenetz wrote:

>> Double-click on the MT.

AL> Nothing happens. Does this maybe have to do that there is no new
AL> message in my inbox but only in other folders? Message age: nothing
AL> set.

Oh? If there are any messages in the MT, these are new, and these
should be listed in the virutal folder that opens. Of course, I have
set my MT to "show automtically", so if there are not new messages,
mine won't show.

If you have set your to "show always" (see Option / Mail Ticker in the
main menu), then it will also show with "0 messages new", and no
virtual folder will open. (It would be empty anyway.)

Therefore, try double-clicking on the MT when there are new messages.

>> A View folder window opens, which contains all
>> unread messages that are announced in the MT.

AL> Sounds like not every new message is announced in the MT??

Correct. In the folder options, you can choose not to show new
messages in the mail ticker. Most people will use the mail ticker for
personal messages (considered urgent), but disable it for folders into
which they receive newsletters or mailing list traffic.

AL> I have the feeling that something is not working correctly here on my
AL> system :-)

I think we'll have to check your settings a bit further. ;-)

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Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Dave,
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 14:37:15 -0500 you wrote:

LG>> the fact that there are new messages

> Actually the icon animation draws attention to the fact that
> there are UNREAD messages, which is not quite the same thing

Well, usually new messages are unread (unless any filter changed
that) :-) but you are right, it's a difference.

> The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did
> actually work in the way you suggest. One possibility would be
> for the icon to animate only if there are new messages since
> the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the developers will take
> notice

It's one of those features I like as it is but others surely have
different opinions. If the icon behaved the way you suggest it, I
could never be sure if there are no unread messages or if the bat
just accidentally had the focus some time ago.

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On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 8:17:35 PM you wrote:

> I have the feeling that something is not working correctly here on my
> system :-)

Thought I had changed the subject sometime today. OK, here we go
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Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[Mark Aston]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:37:15 -0500
Dave Braze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did actually work in the
> way you suggest. One possibility would be for the icon to animate only if
> there are new messages since the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the
> developers will take notice

I recently commented on this on TBOT, the way Becky does this is to
animate the tray icon until the program has been maximised, much more
useful IMHO


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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[jlaikan]

Hello Ming-Li & Lars

Sunday, February 25, 2001, 9:36:35 PM, Ming-Li wrote:


   (it flaps only when there's new
ML> mail), a clever design IMO.

That's something I just learned from you. Thanks for the info.



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Re[2]: New Browser window (shift double-click)

[Dave Braze]

Hello Ming-Li,

No apology necessary. I appreciate your trying to help. Because of your
contribution we've ruled out one possible source of the problem, and that's
a useful thing.


Best regards,
 Dave


Sunday, February 25, 2001, 2:21:42 PM, you wrote:


ML> On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 10:37:35 AM, Dave wrote:

>> Okay, I've figured out how to add the OpenNew action on Netscape
>> running under Win95b. Unfortunately it doesn't help at all with
>> the shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS
>> window. Here are the steps I took to get there.

ML> Sorry for giving you wrong information the last time. It turns out
ML> that the "HTML Document" type controls only a file with .htm or
ML> .html extension. It has nothing to do with clicking on a URL in TB
ML> (or any applications). I thought it's controlled by the "URL:
ML> HyperText Transfer Protocol" type, but I found, on my system, only
ML> one action is available for that type, which is "Open". No "OpenNew"
ML> is available. Yet shift-double-click works fine here. So now it's
ML> beyond me. Sorry, folks.


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Re[2]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[Dave Braze]

Hello Lars,



Sunday, February 25, 2001, 1:27:50 PM, you wrote:

LG> So you say that the flapping wings of the bat will attract
LG> attention? You see, that's exactly what they are made for. The
LG> flapping wings are supposed to draw the user's attention to the
LG> fact that there are new messages

Actually the icon animation draws attention to the fact that there are
UNREAD messages, which is not quite the same thing, especially if, like me,
you tend to not read all messages as soon as they come in.

The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did actually work in the
way you suggest. One possibility would be for the icon to animate only if
there are new messages since the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the
developers will take notice

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Re: New Browser window (shift double-click)

[Ming-Li]

On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 10:37:35 AM, Dave wrote:

> Okay, I've figured out how to add the OpenNew action on Netscape
> running under Win95b. Unfortunately it doesn't help at all with
> the shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS
> window. Here are the steps I took to get there.

Sorry for giving you wrong information the last time. It turns out
that the "HTML Document" type controls only a file with .htm or
.html extension. It has nothing to do with clicking on a URL in TB
(or any applications). I thought it's controlled by the "URL:
HyperText Transfer Protocol" type, but I found, on my system, only
one action is available for that type, which is "Open". No "OpenNew"
is available. Yet shift-double-click works fine here. So now it's
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello Thomas,


> Double-click on the MT.

Nothing happens. Does this maybe have to do that there is no new
message in my inbox but only in other folders? Message age: nothing
set.

> A View folder window opens, which contains all
> unread messages that are announced in the MT.

Sounds like not every new message is announced in the MT??

I have the feeling that something is not working correctly here on my
system :-)

Greetings,
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Re[4]: New Browser window (shift double-click)

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Hello Dave,

You wrote on 2/25/2001, 7:37 PM:

Dave> shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS
Dave> window. Here are the steps I took to get there.

Okay, just for the record, I followed the steps you outlined on my
Win2K system, with the same results. (Actually, I couldn't do
_exactly_ what you described, because of the minor differences of our
platform, but it doesn't matter much)

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Re[3]: New Browser window (shift double-click)

[Dave Braze]

Hello Dave,

Okay, I've figured out how to add the OpenNew action on Netscape running
under Win95b. Unfortunately it doesn't help at all with the
shift-double-click idiom (within TB) failing to open a new NS window. Here
are the steps I took to get there.

1. Open an explorer window, go to view>options>filetypes
2. Find in the list of registered file types, find "Netscape Hypertext
Document" and select it
3. Click the "Edit" button
4. Click the "New..." button
5. Name the action "OpenNew"
6. Specify the NS exe on your system for "application used to perform
action:"
7. tick "use DDE"
8. DDE message should say "[open("%1", 0x0)]" without the outermost quotes
9. Application should say "NSShell" without the quotes.
10. Topic should say "WWW_OpenURL" without the quotes.
11. done

Having done this, I now have an "OpenNew" option on the context menu
(right-click menu) for html documents in windows exploerer, and it works
like you'd expect, but my original problem still exists inside TB.
Shift-double-click on a hypertext url does not open a new browser window.

I guess I'd like to ask if there are any NS users out there for whom the
shift-double-click idiom DOES work? Will you step forward to help figure out
what the problem is? Thanks.

-Dave



Friday, February 23, 2001, 2:00:25 PM, you wrote:


DB> Maybe others, who are using NS under various versions of windows, can fill
DB> in the gaps. I'd like to know how this can be applied to Win95b.

DB> -Dave


DB> Friday, February 23, 2001, 1:23:40 PM, you wrote:


ML>> On Friday, February 23, 2001, 10:00:22 AM, SyP wrote:

Ming-Li If the default action is "open", change it to "opennew"
Ming-Li (click on it and click the "set default" button). See if
Ming-Li that helps.

>>> Ah-ha!

>>> I only have Open, Print and PrintTo actions! Would you please tell how
>>> the OpenNew action looks like in your system?

ML>> Sure, but I'm afraid it won't be of much use to you. I'm using
ML>> IE5.5, and no Netscape is installed (still waiting for Mozilla 1.0).
ML>> The OpenNew action information is obviously put in by IE
ML>> installation, and is IE specific. In case it's of any use, here it
ML>> is:

ML>> Application used to perform action:
ML>> "F:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"

ML>> Use DDE - checked

ML>> DDE message:
ML>> [ViewFolder("%l","%l",%S)]  <- including the square brackets

ML>> Application:
ML>> Folders

ML>> DDE Application not running:
ML>> (empty)

ML>> Topic:
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Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[Lars Geiger]

Hi jlaikan,
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 20:26:44 +0400 you wrote:

> What I said is that the logo's animation gives the impression
>of some advertising going on.Put 2 computers running the Bat!
>side by side (one with animation and the other without). Any
>visitor coming in will more probably notice the animated bat,
>look into the program get interested to it, try it and maybe buy
>it.

So you say that the flapping wings of the bat will attract
attention? You see, that's exactly what they are made for. The
flapping wings are supposed to draw the user's attention to the
fact that there are new messages. If you don't like this design,
you can turn it off, it's just that simple. And all the others
can use it as new mail notification.

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Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[Ming-Li]

On Sunday, February 25, 2001, 8:26:44 AM, jlaikan wrote:

> Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been
> st..id . What I said is that the logo's animation gives the
> impression of some advertising going on.

I don't think your message was stupid, but TB's icon animation
serves as a new message indicator (it flaps only when there's new
mail), a clever design IMO. It's not subtle advertising as you put
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Re: Re[2]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:15:10 +0100, you wrote:

>So You think, that Becky! developement should be stopped

I look forward to learn where I have said such nonsense :-)

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Re[4]: Flying bats, have some rest please.

[jlaikan]

Hello Marek,

Saturday, February 24, 2001, 11:07:12 PM, you wrote:

MM> Hello all,
MM> Saturday, February 24, 2001, jlaikan wrote:

>> In fact I was mistaken about the terms. I referred to those softwares
>> that are supported by advertising and not to freewares. Therefore if the
>> Bat! advertised for itself and is not a freeware, where would the
>> money come from? Well first, from those who have purchased the Bat! and
>> secondly from those who will purchase it on seeing the advert (the
>> flying bat).Subtle marketing or small puzzle from Stefan?


MM> please stop posting these st..id messages or move them to another
MM> list.
Without offense to you I don't see where my message has been st..id .
What I said is that the logo's animation gives the impression of some
advertising going on.Put 2 computers running the Bat! side by side
(one with animation and the other without).Any visitor coming in will
more probably notice the animated bat,look into the program  get interested
to it, try it and maybe buy it.There is nothing wrong with that since
the animation is not imposed to us. Subtle advertising, since no one
can really attack the animation, because bats DO fly! I myself only
said << Flying bats, have some rest please. >> Anyway this is a
personal opinion only.

MM> This is not mailing list for posting off topic messages.
If the rules of this list strictly allow discussing only the support aspects
of the Bat!, I will abide by them.



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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Thomas]

Hallo Ming-Li,

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 07:14:15 -0800 GMT (25/02/01, 23:14 +0800 GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:

ML> How did you do your backup--with TB's backup tool or not? TB's
ML> backup tool seems to facilitate only all-or-none restoration (I've
ML> never tried, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here). If
ML> you choose to restore mail folders, it would restore all mail
ML> folrders -- of course by overwriting existing ones.

You could export your Inbox first. Then let it overwrite. Import the
previously exported mails. Kill dupes.

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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Thomas]

Hallo Alexander,

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:24:47 +0100 GMT (25/02/01, 23:24 +0800 GMT),
Alexander Levenetz wrote:

AL> I must say that I don't quite understand what this virtual folder
AL> is about. What does it look like and what is the connection with the
AL> MT? Could someone maybe explain that to me? TIA

Double-click on the MT. A View folder window opens, which contains all
unread messages that are announced in the MT. This folder view is
"virtual", as there is no single folder containing all these messages:
they are across folders.

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Re: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso

[Ming-Li]

On Saturday, February 24, 2001, 2:33:46 PM, Jannik wrote:

>>I use full-width preview pane in TB, something not available in
>>Becky

> Have a look at version 2.00.03: View | Change Layout. In fact, for
> several versions already, you can have full-*screen* preview pane (and
> full-screen Tree-pane and full-screen List-pane): Ctrl + Alt + various
> arrows (depending on your pane-layout).

I believe that has been available since Becky 2 was in betas. But
it's not what I want. With TB's full-width preview pane, I still
have the 3-pane layout intact, with the message list and account
tree in view. With Becky, I'll lose the other two panes when I
maximize the preview pane.

When I'm reading through mailing list with many messages, I like
TB's folder view best--with message list on top and message body at
the bottom. The account tree is gone, so the message list can have
the full width of the window to accommodate more information. It's
not available in Becky.

In News, only XNews offer similar arrangment. Agent and Gravity
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Ming-Li]

On Saturday, February 24, 2001, 8:39:33 AM, Keith wrote:

> One more question: I do have a backup from a couple of months ago.
> Can anyone tell me if there is a way I can restore my Inbox from
> there without losing messages from the other folders? Will it
> overwrite existing messages, overwrite the entire folders, create
> duplicates, or what?

How did you do your backup--with TB's backup tool or not? TB's
backup tool seems to facilitate only all-or-none restoration (I've
never tried, so somebody please correct me if I'm wrong here). If
you choose to restore mail folders, it would restore all mail
folrders -- of course by overwriting existing ones.

If you did it manually (with an archive utility, backup utility, or
plain file copying), then you may just restore the Inbox directory.

If you used TB's backup tool, then you may copy all your mail
folders to another location with your file manager (when TB is
closed), and copy all other folders except the Inbox back after the
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

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Hello Thomas,


> I use the virtual folder occasionally,

I must say that I don't quite understand what this virtual folder
is about. What does it look like and what is the connection with the
MT? Could someone maybe explain that to me? TIA

Greetings,
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:55:49 +0800, Thomas contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

ACM>> The ticker also allows you to view only particular new messages
ACM>> as well. If all messages are in the inbox, you'd have to wade
ACM>> through new messages you aren't interested in.

T> Not quite. When there are, say, 25 new messages, it takes some time
T> until a particular message comes around again.

What I meant was that you can select which folders new messages to
display. I have my ticker configured to display new messages that
arrive in only some and not all folders. You can further restrict the
messages displayed by using the message age criteria.

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Re: Lurking & learning.

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 06:27:26 [GMT -0500], Ronald J Clark wrote:

RJC>  My sole purpose for this post is just to thank the moderators and
RJC>  many list members who have provided me with so much usable
RJC>  information, as to make many of my questions unnecessary to post. I
RJC>  look forward to the day that I am competent enough using TheBat! to
RJC>  contribute and possibly help another list member. I have much to
RJC>  learn.


I sounds like you've already mastered the first step necessary to
enter the exciting world of online product support, you know how to
look for the answers.  As Nick and Allie pointed out, the next step is
to jump in with "Oo! Oo! I know that one..."  There are many here who
will tweak your advice should that ever become necessary.

As a note to other lurkers, you aren't causing any undo strain on the
system by using answers to other peoples' questions, so go ahead and
take all the answers you want.  We'll make more.

Mike Yetto

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Re[2]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso

[IronHand]

Hello Jannik,

JL> Just remember this: When comparing Becky! and TB you are not comparing
JL> two programs at the same state of their development. The current
JL> version of Becky! is 2.00.03 and the current version of TB is 1.49. A
JL> lot of the goodies in the current version of Becky! will be present in
JL> v. 2.0 of TB as well. 

:-0 So You think, that Becky! developement should be stopped, so
The Bat! can release v2.0??? It's silly, I think, because the question
is which mailer is the best _now_, not which is beeing developed more
rapidly or longer.
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Thomas]

Hallo Allie,

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:57  -0500 GMT (25/02/01, 21:04 +0800 GMT),
A Curtis Martin wrote:

ACM> The ticker also allows you to view only particular new messages as
ACM> well. If all messages are in the inbox, you'd have to wade through new
ACM> messages you aren't interested in.

Not quite. When there are, say, 25 new messages, it takes some time
until a particular message comes around again. In fact, my main use
for the ticket is that I can see while sitting in front of the TV
whether new messages have come in - my PC is some 10 meters from the
sofa, and my eyes are not good enough to see the bat flapping it's
wings. Quite a waste of programming power, one would think, but hey,
at least it's not disabled. ;-)

I use the virtual folder occasionally, but only if there are only a
few new messages. I don't like to read new mail across folders; I read
all messages in one folder, then proceed to the next.

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Re: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso

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Hello John!

On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 2:29:44 PM you wrote:

> Sorry, too lazy to read that far 

Well, Jannik answered to my post stating exactly the same - there is a
new version in the works, but no one knows anything about it incl.
Mark Sidell and Jeffrey Kaplan, and they should know!


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Mail Ticker issue (was Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?)

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Marck!

On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 1:34:00 PM you wrote:


> WADR that's coincidental. What I wrote above is an accurate technical
> summary of what the ticker is and does, however you or I may wish to
> make use of that functionality.

That I did not question. :-) I just replied to your query about
telephone rates. And I think my way of using (or actually not using)
the MT answered that.

> True. It's a matter of quantity. I get around 300-500 messages daily.
> I would spend almost as long sorting them as reading them if they were
> all just dumped in my inbox.

I don't get that much - some mailing lists less ;-) - but I see your
point. that's why I filter and have other folders. Concurring with
Allie, I don't have to see every message in the MT.


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Re[4]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso

[John Phillips]

Hello

Sunday, February 25, 2001, 11:34:31 PM, someone claiming to be 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thank for very much for your reply, John - but did you read to the
> bottom of the post you are replying to ;-)


Sorry, too lazy to read that far 

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Organising e-mails

[John]

Hello All,

I am about to organise all my e-mails into folders.I know the way we
organise our messages is quite personal.However more experienced users probably
have some advise, notes of precautions or tips & tricks about that.
Thank you for sugestions
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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:34:00 +, Marck thoughtfully wrote the
following:

 «--snip--»
DH>> I am not much interested in the virtual folder. If I want to have
DH>> all my new mail in one folder I would just not filter them
DH>> automatically and leave the "Inbox" open (19 inch monitor). After
DH>> having read I can then filter manually.

MDP> True. It's a matter of quantity. I get around 300-500 messages
MDP> daily. I would spend almost as long sorting them as reading them
MDP> if they were all just dumped in my inbox.

The ticker also allows you to view only particular new messages as
well. If all messages are in the inbox, you'd have to wade through new
messages you aren't interested in.

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Digest subject lines

[Yuki Taga]

All:

Can we ask the readers of the digest to please be careful about
responding to digest articles without changing the subject line?  You know,
subjects like: Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859) just
don't tell me much.  Don't know about the rest of you.  ^_-

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Re: Lurking & learning.

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 04:23:51 -0800, Nick wrote these comments:

NA> There are many "New User" type questions posted on TBUDL that you
NA> may want to try answering. The best way to learn, is to try and
NA> teach someone, so by all means feel free to jump in, and don't be
NA> afraid of making a mistake. As mentioned, it's the best way to
NA> learn. ;o)

Indeed. Well said. ;=)

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Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:54:17 +0100, Alexander contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

 «--snip--»
AL> Are you sure? I would say: setting a mail-client there tells
AL> IE/Netscape which program is to be used when clicking on a link in
AL> the form of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on a web-site. If there is no
AL> reaction when clicking on a link inside the _mail-client_ then
AL> there is a problem with the setting of the default _browser_.
AL> AFAIU.

Hmmm. I think you're right on this and the fact that Jan fixed things
by reinstalling Netscape confirms this.

Thanks for clarifying. My bad!

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Re: Re[2]: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso

[Jannik Lindquist]

Hello John,

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:26:39 +1100, you wrote:

>Not sure if you are aware - there is finally a new version of Agent in
>the wings, as posted on the Agent ng by Forte. No announcement yet as
>to when available.

Thank for very much for your reply, John - but did you read to the
bottom of the post you are replying to ;-)

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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

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Hi Dierk,

On 25 February 2001 at  12:31:36 +0100 (which was 11:31 where I  live)
Dierk Haasis wrote and made these points:

>> ... It's just a virtual folder which is filled with pointers to all
>> new mail.

DH> That's they way you use it.

WADR that's coincidental. What I wrote above is an accurate technical
summary of what the ticker is and does, however you or I may wish to
make use of that functionality.

DH> I am not much interested in the virtual folder. If I want to have
DH> all my new mail in one folder I would just not filter them
DH> automatically and leave the "Inbox" open (19 inch monitor). After
DH> having read I can then filter manually.

True. It's a matter of quantity. I get around 300-500 messages daily.
I would spend almost as long sorting them as reading them if they were
all just dumped in my inbox.

DH> As Thomas pointed out some days ago in another context: Everybody
DH> has his own preferences and usage.

Quite right.

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Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders

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On February 25, 2001, at 1:48:19 AM, Jan Wrote:

J> Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty
J> getting mail from my Yahoo! account. Everything was working fine, but
J> yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download them to my
J> desktop. I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a reply. I
J> asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail accounts but they
J> said No. What gives? I am truly having a major, problem day and need to
J> fix this somehow.

Although this isn't a fix for your Yahoo problem, but may I suggest
setting up an account with OperaMail... www.operamail.com who offer free
POP3 access. Just subscribe to a Mailing List you are already subscribed
to via your Yahoo address, and notice the difference in speed between the
two Servers. That is how I started out when I was having a problem with my
@Home Servers. As of this moment, I have subscribed to *all* my Mailing
Lists under OperaMail, and am so happy I did.

The Account is super easy to set up via the Web Page, and when setting up
the Account here in TB!, simply use operamail.com for both your SMTP and
POP3 Server names. That is all there is to it, and you won't be sorry. It
may take a little effort to get everything moved over, but the effort will
be rewarded.


Nick


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Re: Lurking & learning.

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On February 25, 2001, at 3:27:26 AM, Ronald J Clark Wrote:

RJC> I look forward to the day that I am competent enough using TheBat! to
RJC> contribute and possibly help another list member. I have much to
RJC> learn.

There are many "New User" type questions posted on TBUDL that you may want
to try answering. The best way to learn, is to try and teach someone, so
by all means feel free to jump in, and don't be afraid of making a
mistake. As mentioned, it's the best way to learn. ;o)


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Browser Problems

[Jan]

Hello Thomas and Alexander,

Just to let you fellows know, I uninstalled Netscape, then
reinstalled, afterwhich TB became my default email program again and
everything seems like it's back to normal.  Links are working!

Now, if I could just recover those mail folders everything would be
"peachy keen"!

Thanks for your help, input and feedback.  I have a feeling I'm going
to be coming here alot so I can make my TB cook with gas.

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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

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Hello Marck!

On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 12:10:46 PM you wrote:

> What have telephone and internet rates got to do with the ticker? It's
> not an "on-line" facility you know. It's just a virtual folder which
> is filled with pointers to all new mail.

That's they way you use it. I have used it to not think of looking up
"What's new". What I mean is: Being connected always I can work - yes,
I do that - and when new messages come (let's assume every half hour
TB! checks for them) I just see them, can decide if I am interested,
look at them or go on working.

I am not much interested in the virtual folder. If I want to have all
my new mail in one folder I would just not filter them automatically
and leave the "Inbox" open (19 inch monitor). After having read I can
then filter manually.

As Thomas pointed out some days ago in another context: Everybody has
his own preferences and usage.


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Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859)

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Hello Dierk Haasis !


On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:03:26 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 25.02.2001, 09:03 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

[...]

> You don't have to change anything through their web interface. When
> GMX implemented SMTP authentication I checked this in TB! and never
> did anything on the web. And it worked. Then someone posted that you
> have to change the option at GMX, well, I did, and it works still.

FYI

Confirmed: I never had any problems with the gmx-account. I did exactly as
Dierk did.

[...]

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Lurking & learning.

[Ronald J Clark]

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Hello TB! Users & Moderators,

In a recent thread, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> made the
following comment:

"This list is a user discussion list. Many TB users lurk around here
 and help each others. :-) "

 This statement made me feel somewhat guilty insofar as I'm always
 lurking, but contributing nothing. What Thomas said is especially
 true in my case. I have received enormous help off list from another
 list member. Thanks Brian C.

 My sole purpose for this post is just to thank the moderators and
 many list members who have provided me with so much usable
 information, as to make many of my questions unnecessary to post. I
 look forward to the day that I am competent enough using TheBat! to
 contribute and possibly help another list member. I have much to
 learn.

 Thanks to all,

 Ron.

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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Dierk,

On 25 February 2001 at  09:19:24 +0100 (which was 08:19 where I  live)
Dierk Haasis wrote and made these points:

DH> Adding in a side note: I really like the feature and will use it
DH> some day, when it runs smoothly and telephone and Internet rates
DH> are better in Germany (last so called flat rate has just been
DH> cancelled).

What have telephone and internet rates got to do with the ticker? It's
not an "on-line" facility you know. It's just a virtual folder which
is filled with pointers to all new mail.

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Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello there,


> If you're double clicking and things are still not working, go into
> the Windows control panel and open the internet options. Go to the
> 'programs' tab and check if 'The Bat!' is selected under the
> 'e-mail' option. If not, select it and apply the change. That should
> do it.

Are you sure? I would say: setting a mail-client there tells
IE/Netscape which program is to be used when clicking on a link in the
form of mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on a web-site.
If there is no reaction when clicking on a link inside the
_mail-client_ then there is a problem with the setting of the default
_browser_. AFAIU.

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Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859)

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello everybody having troubles using GMX,


>> When I use GMX's SMTP server, I just set TB to POP before SMTP.

What you should do nowadays is under Properties - Transport
- SMTP-Server - Authentication, check "Perform SMTP Authentication"
and leave it to "Use settings of Mail retrieval". You don't need to
check "POP before SMTP". Then under your Pop-server you should have
your user-number rather than your GMX-Email-address and of course your
password. You do not need to change anything at the GMX web-interface.

And most important:

Be aware that your Email-address under Properties - General _MUST_ be
your GMX-Address!! If not, you will never be able to use the
GMX-SMTP-server. Also, make sure that any address set individually for
a folder must also be your GMX-address. This is just one reason why
*I* don't use the GMX-SMTP-server - I have multiple personalities ;-)

Greetings,
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Re: Browser Problems

[Thomas]

Hallo Jan,

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 02:33:15 -0800 GMT (25/02/2001, 18:33 +0800 GMT),
Jan wrote:

J> I'm using Netscape 4.75.  I do double click but nothing happens.
J> Email hyperlinks open up theBat to send messages, but nothing happens
J> when I need to go online.

Go to the FAQ file: www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and read
about Netscape and a program called nsproto. If you have further
questions, or if you get it working, let us kow.

J> Thomas, when you asked "what file type is associated with my browser
J> in Windows", I'm not clear on what you mean.  Do you mean theBat file
J> types?  Or some other file type?

No, I mean files type, as in ".html", ".shtml" and so on. Do you have
some background in computing or operating systems?

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Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:48:19 -0800, Jan contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

J> Earlier I sent a message asking for help but had not read the full
J> rules of posting here. I shouted in the Subject Line and now I
J> understand I ought to have written *help*. Please accept my
J> appologies. Now that I know better, I will repost in the proper
J> form.

That's OK Jan. Welcome to the list. :-)

J> Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up
J> window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have
J> said yes. Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are
J> gone. Is there any way to get them back?

Ouch!!

The only thing that could possibly save you is an application with an
undelete feature (anyone have any of these utilities to suggest?). It
will search your disk for deleted stuff and, just maybe, your deleted
folders have not yet been overwritten by other stuff.

J> Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not
J> engage my browser. This is why I reinstalled, thinking that
J> something wasn't configured properly. Now theBat will not open up
J> my browser and I have to "copy" and "paste". Over the long hall
J> this is going to be extremely annoying. What do I do?

Are you clicking or double clicking. With TB! you have to double click
on the links. If you're double clicking and things are still not
working, go into the Windows control panel and open the internet
options. Go to the 'programs' tab and check if 'The Bat!' is selected
under the 'e-mail' option. If not, select it and apply the change.
That should do it.

J> Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty
J> getting mail from my Yahoo! account. Everything was working fine,
J> but yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download
J> them to my desktop. I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not
J> received a reply. I asked my ISP if they started blocking external
J> mail accounts but they said No. What gives? I am truly having a
J> major, problem day and need to fix this somehow.

This problem could easily have nothing to do with your setup. These
free services tend to be problematic at times.

J> By the way, I am not all that clear on what happens after I send
J> this. Does it go to the main discussion group and someone answers
J> if and when they have seen this;

Each member is sent a copy of the message. If they read it and wish to
reply, they post their response which is again distributed to all
members.

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Browser Problems

[Jan]

Hello Thomas,

Thanks for responding.

I'm using Netscape 4.75.  I do double click but nothing happens.
Email hyperlinks open up theBat to send messages, but nothing happens
when I need to go online.

Thomas, when you asked "what file type is associated with my browser
in Windows", I'm not clear on what you mean.  Do you mean theBat file
types?  Or some other file type?

  

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Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello Jan,


> Are they still on the harddsik? If not, they are probably gone. It
> is always better to make regular updates, and especially when you
> reinstall the software.

The last two days or so we had a thread about backing up the TB!.
There were 2 or 3 very good ways to do so. I strongly recommend that
you take a look at the archives (Archives:
), subject was at least "A backing-up
story".

> What happens when you double-click? If the file type is associated
> with your browser in Windows, it should work. BTW, what browser is
> that?

Make sure that your browser is set as the default browser. This
problem seems to come up if one has installed several browsers whereas
none really is the default browser if it is not clearly set to be so.

> Haven't heard anything, but my free webmail providers (gmx and kimo)
> also are unreachable sometimes for a day or two. No reason to panic
> and reinstall software. It's the price you pay for "free" services.

Ack.

Greetings,
Alexander

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Re: Problems with Browser Configuration, POP Access, Mail Folders

[Thomas]

Hallo Jan,

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:48:19 -0800 GMT (25/02/2001, 17:48 +0800 GMT),
Jan wrote:

J>   Earlier I sent a message asking for help but had not read the full
J>   rules of posting here.  I shouted in the Subject Line and now I
J>   understand I ought to have written *help*.  Please accept my
J>   appologies. Now that I know better, I will repost in the proper
J>   form.

No prob. ;-)

J>   Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up
J>   window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have said
J>   yes.  Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are
J>   gone.  Is there any way to get them back?

Are they still on the harddsik? If not, they are probably gone. It is
always better to make regular updates, and especially when you
reinstall the software.

J>   Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not
J>   engage my browser.  This is why I reinstalled, thinking that
J>   something wasn't configured properly.  Now theBat will not open up
J>   my browser and I have to "copy" and "paste". Over the long hall this
J>   is going to be extremely annoying. What do I do?

What happens when you double-click? If the file type is associated
with your browser in Windows, it should work. BTW, what browser is
that?

J>   Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty getting
J>   mail from my Yahoo! account.  Everything was working fine, but
J>   yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download them to
J>   my desktop.  I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a
J>   reply.  I asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail
J>   accounts but they said No.  What gives?  I am truly having a major,
J>   problem day and need to fix this somehow.

Haven't heard anything, but my free webmail providers (gmx and kimo)
also are unreachable sometimes for a day or two. No reason to panic
and reinstall software. It's the price you pay for "free" services.

J>   By the way, I am not all that clear on what happens after I send
J>   this.  Does it go to the main discussion group and someone answers
J>   if and when they have seen this; or does it go straight to someone's
J>   desktop and they will respond as soon as possible.  I guess you can
J>   tell this is my first time here and I'm sorry if I am not following
J>   protocol, but I will learn as I go along.

This list is a user discussion list. Many TB users lurk around here
and help each others. :-)

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[Jan]

Hello TBUDL,

  I am using theBat Version 1.49 with Win95.

  Earlier I sent a message asking for help but had not read the full
  rules of posting here.  I shouted in the Subject Line and now I
  understand I ought to have written *help*.  Please accept my
  appologies. Now that I know better, I will repost in the proper
  form.

  Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up
  window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have said
  yes.  Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are
  gone.  Is there any way to get them back?

  Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not
  engage my browser.  This is why I reinstalled, thinking that
  something wasn't configured properly.  Now theBat will not open up
  my browser and I have to "copy" and "paste". Over the long hall this
  is going to be extremely annoying. What do I do?

  Lastly, these problems all started because I was having difficulty getting
  mail from my Yahoo! account.  Everything was working fine, but
  yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat would not download them to
  my desktop.  I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a
  reply.  I asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail
  accounts but they said No.  What gives?  I am truly having a major,
  problem day and need to fix this somehow.

  I could sure use some help right now - especially trying to
  re-capture my lost mail folders.

  By the way, I am not all that clear on what happens after I send
  this.  Does it go to the main discussion group and someone answers
  if and when they have seen this; or does it go straight to someone's
  desktop and they will respond as soon as possible.  I guess you can
  tell this is my first time here and I'm sorry if I am not following
  protocol, but I will learn as I go along.

  Thanks

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[janets83]

Hello TBUDL,

  Today I had to reinstall theBat and by accident when the pop-up
  window asked if I wanted to delete my mail folders, I must have said
  yes.  Sadly, I have not backed up any of these and now they are
  gone.  Is there any way to get them back.

  Also, when I click on the hyperlink in messages, theBat does not
  engage my browser.  This is why I reinstalled, thinking that
  something wasn't configured properly.  Now theBat will not open up
  my browser.  What do I do?

  Lastly, this all started because I was having difficulty getting
  mail from my Yahoo! account.  Everything was working fine, but
  yesterday for some unknown reason, theBat will not download them to
  my desktop.  I have asked Yahoo! for help but have not received a
  reply.  I asked my ISP if they started blocking external mail
  accounts but they said No.  What gives?

  I could sure use some help right now - especially trying to
  re-capture my lost mail folders.

  

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Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Thomas!

On Sunday, February 25, 2001 at 6:14:23 AM you wrote:

> How do you do that? Mine runs and runs and runs and runs... like an
> old VW.

If I'd knew ... I asked here two times - once last summer for an
office machine with an age old ATI graphics adapter under Windows 98,
a second time a few weeks ago for my own comp with a Matrox G400 DH -
and only got one answer telling me "Confirmed".

Well, what ever the prob is, look at the archives where I elaborated a
bit for technical details. Since I don't have an all-day-open line now
(and enter my password every time I fetch or send mail), for the
moment the MT is not that important to me.

Adding in a side note: I really like the feature and will use it some
day, when it runs smoothly and telephone and Internet rates are
better in Germany (last so called flat rate has just been cancelled).

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Re: Digest (02/24/2001 22:42) Special Issue (#2001-859)

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Thomas!

On Saturday, February 24, 2001 at 6:28:02 PM you wrote:

> When I use GMX's SMTP server, I just set TB to POP before SMTP. I
> never changed anything in the options on the GMX web interface. Works
> fine.

You don't have to change anything through their web interface. When
GMX implemented SMTP authentication I checked this in TB! and never
did anything on the web. And it worked. Then someone posted that you
have to change the option at GMX, well, I did, and it works still.

Conclusion: Doesn't actually matter what you check or uncheck on the
homepage of GMX.



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