Re: Line wrap in quote replies
Hi Allie, Historians believe that Friday, August 31, 2001 at 23:44 GMT -0500 was when, Allie C Martin [AM] typed the following: ACM I just reflowed the above text block with no problems. I YT included the ACM original for comparison. AM A question. Does the quoted text that you're trying to wrap have a AM different colour from your own text? I wonder if this has been fixed in one of the current betas. I remember having the same problem Yuki mentioned with Auto-format in quoted material, but I can not reproduce it now. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A With these words, this page is no longer blank but is complete. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fix in the Mix?????? (a different approach to same question)
Bat Cats: Problem: The Bat! doesn't allow filename of attached file to contain '\' symbol, if name is specified as clear text. The problem is, that this check isn't performed then filename specified as RFC's 2047 'encoded-word'. Is there a fix for this yet or does anyone have any info regarding same? -- Cheers and Best of Success, Miles mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Contemporary Thoughts: -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
failure notice ?? (was : sound choice?)
Hello all, on Fri, 31 Aug 2001, at 19:07:36 local time (GMT +0100), andrew wrote: R http://wso.williams.edu/~eudora/eudora-alert-sounds.html R sounds from Star Trek, Simpsons, Babylon 5 etc. etc. a rob thanks alot for the link :) Monty Python i love it! :) ah, so my reply made it to the list after all ... all i got after replying was an e-mail with the subject 'failure notice' ! looks like it comes from Marck Pearlstone ?? can somebody explain what happened ?? Hi. This is the qmail-send program at exhibition.plus.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 24211 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 18:02:13 - Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 18:02:13 - Received: (qmail 228 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 18:00:25 - Received: from unknown (HELO silverstones.com) (62.172.35.137) by warrior with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 18:00:25 - Received: from mail.free-online.net [212.159.10.3] by silverstones.com [127.0.0.1] with MultiPOP (MDaemon.v3.6.0a.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:59:49 +0100 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 21888 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 18:00:54 - Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 18:00:54 - Received: (qmail 27796 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2001 17:59:03 - Received: from unknown (HELO silverstones.com) (62.172.35.137) by warrior with SMTP; 31 Aug 2001 17:59:03 - Received: from list.cavendish.com [62.172.47.202] by silverstones.com [127.0.0.1] with DomainPOP (MDaemon.v3.6.0a.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:58:10 +0100 Received: from dutaint.com [203.130.233.8] by list.cavendish.com [62.172.47.202] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP5.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 18:55:33 +0100 Received: from cdindo.com (mail.cdindo.com) [202.158.36.130] by dutaint.com [203.130.233.4] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v5.0.0rc2.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:51:41 +0700 Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net by cdindo.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.8.R) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:47:12 +0700 Received: from [195.11.251.38] (helo=gemini.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15csMV-000Eko-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:45:47 + Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 19:50:08 +0200 From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53o) Personal Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Software Junkies Anonymous X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sound choice? In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk X-MDMailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDRemoteIP: 212.159.10.3 X-MDRcpt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MDRedirect: 1 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello all, on Fri, 31 Aug 2001, at 13:20:29 local time (GMT +0100), andrew wrote: a Is there a resource anywhere or could someone send in sounds they use? i use sounds from this site : http://wso.williams.edu/~eudora/eudora-alert-sounds.html sounds from Star Trek, Simpsons, Babylon 5 etc. etc. -- Rob using The Bat! 1.53o -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
Hello Rob, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:41:58 +0200 GMT (01/09/2001, 18:41 +0800 GMT), Rob wrote: R ah, so my reply made it to the list after all ... R all i got after replying was an e-mail with the subject 'failure notice' ! R looks like it comes from Marck Pearlstone ?? R can somebody explain what happened ?? The server on Marck's side (or his ISP, rather) has a problem. Each message sent to his address is rejected. Furthermore, instead of bouncing to the list admin (as would be correct), that server bounces to the original sender. So, if you post a message on the list, the list server will send to all members including Marck, Marck's ISP has a problem, the notification is being sent to you instead of dutaint. I have no way of contacting Marck on another email address or by phone. Syafril and Allie have received bounces themselves, so if they have another means of contacting Marck, they will will have done so in the meantime. Otherwise I assume the only way is to ask Allie to unsub Marck temporarily (he doesn't get the postings anyway) but send him regular test messages, so that he can be resubscribed as soon as his ISP has fixed their problem. R [EMAIL PROTECTED]: R This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) Clearly the problem is at free-online's server. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Everyone needs belief in something. I believe I'll have another beer. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:17:51PM +0800, Thomas F wrote: The server on Marck's side (or his ISP, rather) has a problem. Each message sent to his address is rejected. Furthermore, instead of bouncing to the list admin (as would be correct), that server bounces to the original sender. So, if you post a message on the list, the list server will send to all members including Marck, Marck's ISP has a problem, the notification is being sent to you instead of dutaint. ACK. I have no way of contacting Marck on another email address or by phone. Syafril and Allie have received bounces themselves, No. They're not. But, they're already receive your message to TBUDL :-) R [EMAIL PROTECTED]: R This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) Clearly the problem is at free-online's server. I don't think so. Free-online use qmail. qmail put delivered-to header only once, then if it get the same message (which has same delivered-to header), it would love to think that it is a loop problem. For some reasons, Marck's server (MDaemon) do some header rewriting, (i.e rewrite return-path header) which cause this problem. -flash -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Dierk, Friday, August 31, 2001, 3:19:34 PM, you wrote: And after a quick look into Becky I like the idea to edit the mail on the fly in an extern editor. DH AFAIR from different sources, the use of an external editor will be DH implemented with v2. As will surely other wish list items. did i read that becky can do auto mail on certain dates, ie. email a friend on birthday? That seems pretty handy - would it be easy/possible to set-up in TB? -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Line wrap in quote replies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Yuki, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 15:16:43 +0900, you thoughtfully wrote the following: ... YT No, it does not. However, I have noted inconsistencies in this YT behavior. In the past, I have seen a different color. Ok, then this is the problem. If the quotation isn't in the colour that you've configured TB! to show quoted material in, then this means that TB! doesn't recognize it as quoted material. It will then just wrap the text ignoring the quote prefixes which it doesn't recognize. ACM In the editor preferences, there's the setting 'quote name limit'. ACM I have mine set to ten characters. This will make any '' within ACM ten characters of the beginning of a line registers as a quote ACM prefix. It could be that you have this setting at zero. As a ACM result 'ACM' doesn't register as a quote prefix. Trying to wrap a ACM paragraph will therefore lead to the prefixes being wrapped as ACM well. YT I have my setting at 2, This is why you're having problems with quotations from my messages. The generated quote prefix, 'ACM', has 3 characters before the ''. Your setting is making TB! ignore ''s that occur more than 2 characters beyond the start of a line. YT and I changed it to avoid some other problem which I don't even YT recall right now. I'll change it back to 10 and see how that goes YT again. Thanks. It should now work with the setting at ten. The side effect here is that you may be typing a message and decide to use '' in the text and if your setting is really now at 10, this line use ' should now be looking like a quotation and TB! now treats 'use ' use ' as a quote prefix and automatically inserts them for you. To avoid this problem for the line you wish to include the '' sign, just indent it by a single character. like what I do here. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuQ06kACgkQV8nrYCsHF+IF9gCfWyo7Uu5nDBhSfwzzLIesD/2R osoAn06fyRg5g5YLtKfTLONNUUDngWy9 =IXGe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ?? (was : sound choice?)
Hello Rob, actually rob I've had a few of these recently and thought it was something i was doing wrong - I tried to unsubscribe from this email address and subscribe via another - which hasn't quite worked yet. Saturday, September 01, 2001, 11:41:58 AM, you wrote: R ah, so my reply made it to the list after all ... R all i got after replying was an e-mail with the subject 'failure notice' ! R looks like it comes from Marck Pearlstone ?? R can somebody explain what happened ?? R R Hi. This is the qmail-send program at exhibition.plus.net. R I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. R This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
On 01-09-2001 at 14:27, ::Andrew:: kindly wrote: did i read that becky can do auto mail on certain dates, ie. email a friend on birthday? That seems pretty handy - would it be easy/possible to set-up in TB? It's already implemented in TB. Go to your address book, pick a friend, go to the 'personal' tab and put in her/his birthday. TB will make a congrats mail at 00:00 of that day, or as soon as you open TB on that particular day. - K - -- True glory consists in doing what deserves to be written; in writing what deserves to be read; and in so living as to make the world happier and better for our living in it. - Pliny the Elder, Roman naturalist -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
Hello flash, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 19:00:36 +0700 GMT (01/09/2001, 20:00 +0800 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no way of contacting Marck on another email address or by phone. Syafril and Allie have received bounces themselves, fwn No. They're not. But, they're already receive your message to TBUDL :-) They posted on TBUDL before, so they will have received the same bounce every poster (including yourself just now) receives. ;-) Clearly the problem is at free-online's server. fwn I don't think so. Free-online use qmail. qmail put delivered-to fwn header only once, then if it get the same message (which has same fwn delivered-to header), it would love to think that it is a loop problem. That's why I thought it indeed is a loop problem. It isn't? fwn For some reasons, Marck's server (MDaemon) do some header rewriting, fwn (i.e rewrite return-path header) which cause this problem. Ah, I have no idea about MDaemon. So you probably know more than I. As I said, nothing we (the humble list users) can do. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Nachdem die Maenner 100m gekrault hatten, wickelten die Frauen ihre 200m Brust ab. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi flash, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 19:00:36 +0700, you wrote these words of wisdom: ... fwn For some reasons, Marck's server (MDaemon) do some header fwn rewriting, (i.e rewrite return-path header) which cause this fwn problem. Yes, he configured MDaemon to deliver list mail to his free e-mail address while he's away and this may be the problem. Hopefully he'll be able to use MDaemons remote config system to rectify it when he realises the problem. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuQ2OoACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LQXACglKW0r4OC1+9vum3VsQ0X3n0r nR7rAv6aJRwwy4Jc9XH8FEf6Litu =rKsF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 19:17:51 +0800, you wrote these words of wisdom: ... R [EMAIL PROTECTED]: R This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6) TF Clearly the problem is at free-online's server. Indeed, I got the bounced message once. The address above is his free on-line address. I'll try to contact him about this.. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuQ14cACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JZ/gCg58mJKYFXqF2amUt0t060JXbA WucAnjX3raHgB1AlNBqWlA4QNvbDyn72 =1YEb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 08:46:13PM +0800, Thomas F wrote: They posted on TBUDL before, so they will have received the same bounce every poster (including yourself just now) receives. ;-) No, I'm not. Seems that Marck already know the problem. Ah, I have no idea about MDaemon. So you probably know more than I. As I said, nothing we (the humble list users) can do. ;-) So am I. What I know for sure is that qmail has no header rewriting capability (unless one use ofmipd/new-inject, which is 'separate' package). Hei .. these days, only few people could recognize this kind of problem better then you :-) Regards, -flash -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Line wrap in quote replies
ACM like what I do here. Great tips Allie. Message is a keeper. Thanks. -- Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: The Bat on The Penguin
On Wednesday, August 29, 2001, Brian Clark wrote: ACM If it has, then I guess there has to be enough potential buyers ACM on the Linux side to make it worth their while? BC I wouldn't hold your breath :-) Judging by the release, err, of TB! BC version 2 and the fact that, probably, not many Linux users would BC purchase it, In whose opinion? I'm currently evaluating TB!, and though some of the inconsistencies I find between it and what I'm used to are still driving me crazy frown, so far I like it. Afaik, there's only ONE email program for Linux that can handle multiple accounts/identities, and that's Netscape. A lot of us are quite frustrated by the Netscape browser and will switch to Mozilla as soon as we feel it's going somewhere. At that time we'll need a great email client. BC I'd take a while guess and say that it probably won't BC happen. It's not that Linux users wouldn't think it's worthy, but I'm BC sure they'd scream for the source. Or, something. There are lots of commercial products available for Linux. You don't have to make a product open-source to make it work under Linux. And there will be lots more Linux users shortly, too, as Microsoft users discover the new license terms under which M$ is starting to sell new versions of the operating system. Things like you can only reinstall it three times without paying a fee (even if your machine has crashed or you're a reviewer who rebuilds systems five times a day), licenses that only last three years (with no upgrades, you either buy plans or your system just stops running). They made some announcements on this in the last few days. BC Many people have claimed that TB! runs great under WINE (I think) and BC Win4Lin. Lots of us (including me) won't run either WINE or any other emulator; we have security issues smile. Of course one thing we'll need is the ability to put a space after those two -- characters that preceed the sig; we like to keep up with RFCs and other conventions smile. It should look like -- followed by nothing but a line-end character. (It's not just a thing; the space is necessary so automatic reply systems, mailing list systems, etc., can figure out where the sig starts and deletes it. In fact if all MUAs and mailing list systems did it properly we wouldn't see those annoying trails of multiple sigs at the bottom of many posts.) Jeff (who's in his fifth day of TB! evaluation). -- Jeff Lasman [EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.nobaloney.net Services to and for Internet Professionals -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sound choice?
On Friday, August 31, 2001, andrew wrote: a This occurred to me one of my mails earlier today. Does anyone have a any good mail arrival sounds? I'd like to use a different sound for a different accounts/types of mail arriving. Is there a resource a anywhere or could someone send in sounds they use? I've borrowed the a AOL 'you've got mail' for the moment but could do with a couple of a others. I've got two You've got new mail, one male and one female, from an extremely old compuserve installation. I've also got what sounds like one ring of a U.S. telephone, which I use when I get voicemail via email. I have no idea how/where to post this for TB! users; I'm still in my first week of evaluating. Let me know if anyone wants them, and I'll post them wherever everyone wants smile. While I can send them individually, I'd rather not. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman [EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.nobaloney.net Services to and for Internet Professionals -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PGP 7.1 Source code release
Hello daveiw, Saturday, September 01, 2001, 12:35:44 AM, you wrote: dcn -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- dcn Hash: SHA1 dcn Hi all, dcn Does this release mean that we will soon see a Bat plugin dll? Also dcn could anyone please tell me whether my PGP disk (ckt version) CD-R's dcn would be readable with PGP disk 7.1? Many thanks in advance for any dcn replies. dcn Best regards, dcn Dave Wilson. dcn [EMAIL PROTECTED] dcn (E-mail me subject: 'public key' and I will send it to you) dcn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- dcn Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Build 06 dcn iQA/AwUBO5CP24uowXdtlnXzEQIYKwCgkwG0q5DPIflnV4Til4Z2eS47AR8AoOax dcn d2fxp7js2AU5AqCr74OprcoS dcn =StIc dcn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Just a clarification. The whole sourcecode was not released, just a subset. /me still wouldn't trust it. I don't see any reason why a plugin couldn't be built. -- Best regards, Ryan -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
hot keys
OK, call me crazy, but I would like to be able to use ctrl+shift+r for reply all and alt+r for reply to sender (rather than reply to list) Is there a way to change what keys do what? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: The Bat on The Penguin
Hello Jeff, 1. september 2001, 16:34:55, you wrote: J Of course one thing we'll need is the ability to put a space after J those two -- characters that preceed the sig; we like to keep up J with RFCs and other conventions smile. It should look like -- J followed by nothing but a line-end character. The ability is there. To get the -- , simply type two dashes and space, and *press Enter*. Although it may look, like the space isn't there, it is (try to select text with mouse - you'll see the space). -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10.1998. ] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: sound choice?
Hello Jeff, 1. september 2001, 16:44:36, you wrote: J I have no idea how/where to post this for TB! users; I'm still in my J first week of evaluating. Let me know if anyone wants them, and I'll J post them wherever everyone wants smile. Subscribe to TBOT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and either send them there, or (better) upload them to files area of TBOT. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10.1998. ] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[3]: The Bat on The Penguin
Hello Jeff, Saturday, September 01, 2001, 3:34:55 PM, you wrote: J And there will be lots more Linux users shortly, too, as Microsoft J users discover the new license terms under which M$ is starting to J sell new versions of the operating system. Things like you can only J reinstall it three times without paying a fee You don't need to pay a fee if you reinstall XP more than three times. This is from http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/piracy/productactivationfaq.asp How does Microsoft Product Activation work? Product Activation works by validating that the softwares product key, required as part of product installation, has not been used on more PCs than is allowed by the softwares license. Product key information, in the form of the product ID, is sent along with a hardware hash (a nonunique number generated from the PCs hardware configuration) to Microsofts activation system during activation. Activation is completed either directly via the Internet or by a telephone call to a customer service representative. Activations on the same PC using the same product key are unlimited. Product Activation discourages piracy by limiting the number of times a product key can be activated on different PCs. __ While I do think WPA is a mistake I can understand the position of MS on this. A company which is out to make a profit, and MS are, know that people buy one copy of their software and then install it on every machine they own and even lend the software to friends to install on their machines, while this is perfectly OK with the Linux OS it isn't with MS. -- Kevin Using TB!1.54 Beta/7 on Windows XP RC 1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi flash, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 20:03:31 +0700, you graced us with these comments: ... They posted on TBUDL before, so they will have received the same bounce every poster (including yourself just now) receives. ;-) fwn No, I'm not. Seems that Marck already know the problem. Yes, he does. He just confirmed this with me and it's fixed. He's very sorry about it and sends his apologies. :-) - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuRC7kACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JihACg5Lb7fmd+5adYQj4Cwo8crRX/ VUAAoPakDkmccbVW2iDA0rsjb66jd8UA =DzyD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[7]: SMTP server - setting up
On Friday, August 31, 2001, ::Andrew:: wrote: A you use use the ADR (www.mailutilities.com) to send mail. Which would A solve my problem. I have since found a free service which would do A this for me too (thanks to this thread). Since I hadn't heard of ADR, I just went to the website to check them out. The first problem I see could be quite important to you. You say you use a free ISP for your connection. You must check first to see if your provider blocks all outgoing email to port 25 that isn't sent through their own provider. Many do. Others (I believe Earthlink does this) automatically redirects all port 25 traffic through their own email servers no matter what server you're trying to connect. In other words, when using ADR (or any other program) that sends directly to the recipient's server as ADR does) the mail will still be sent through the ISPs server. If your provider does this (and chances are they do; there'd be no reason for them to put such restrictions as you mention on their own servers if they weren't locking other doors as well, since they're most likely not trying to thwart you, but rather spammers who would use their connections and packages such as ADR for sending unsolicited bulk email), then all email will still go out through their server, subject to their own restriction. There is a way around this, and I've been researching it. It would be a combination of a mail-server program (MTA) on your local machine that uses another port, and a smart-relay server that reads the same port and relays your mail on for you. All email must use port 25 to get to it's eventual destination, and a pair of servers such as this would solve the problem. The problem isn't the software. I currently market a Windows-based mail-server product to small businesses, some of which have the same problem you do (verizon here won't forward email if the return address doesn't match, and one other (I forget their name) even automatically replaces whatever is in your from field with what they have on file for you frown. I can easily distribute a version of the software that uses another port to transfer email. The problem is in pricing it and patrolling it. Obviously I couldn't afford to let spammers use it; I'd end up with my outgoing mail connections being blacklisted. I'd also have to price it so each user would pay his/her fair share for email that after all is going through connections I'm paying for. A But it might be worth using a A paid for service if the smtp server the mail appears to be from is my A domain (which could be anything if you see what I mean). Do your recipients actually look at the headers to see whose SMTP server you're using? Mine don't. Since my home-network is down today you can look at the headers to this post and see I sent it through a popsite server. Normally my server says nobaloney.net, but that may change; I own a lot of domains smile. But my return address is what people look at. The reason to pay for a service is so that you know it'll always be there (free services are failing every day; their business model just doesn't work in the long run wry grin), and so you know you'll get the service you deserve. If the service is free, you don't get much service smile. A see below my domain is andema.co.uk so ideally I'd like the smtp A server to appear to be smtp.andema.co.uk. If you ctrl+shift+k your A mail you'll see the header and should see if your domain is listed as A the smtp server in the header. Most people don't do it. If that becomes important to you, look at my two-step method above, and talk me into implementing it smile. Then the first Received: header (the lowest one) will show your andema.co.uk and the next Received: header will show mine. Since it's the first server that's yours, this would fill your need. First thing to do is check to see if you can send email out on port 25. You can do it using telnet from a command prompt. Find out the name of a known smtp server not on your network. Then: C:\ telnet smtp.servername.com 25 If you get a reply from the mail-server, you CAN send port 25 email using ADR or other packages. If you get an error message, or if the server that replies appears to be your ISPs server, then you can't. (Don't use smtp.nobaloney right now; the server is down frown.) A thanks for try anyway :) You're welcome smile. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman [EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.nobaloney.net Services to and for Internet Professionals -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Bat on The Penguin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jeff, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:34:55 -0700, you wrote these comments: ... J Of course one thing we'll need is the ability to put a space after J those two -- characters that preceed the sig; we like to keep up J with RFCs and other conventions smile. It should look like -- J followed by nothing but a line-end character. J (It's not just a thing; the space is necessary so automatic reply J systems, mailing list systems, etc., can figure out where the sig J starts and deletes it. In fact if all MUAs and mailing list systems did it J properly we wouldn't see those annoying trails of multiple sigs at the J bottom of many posts.) J Jeff (who's in his fifth day of TB! evaluation). I notice that your sig delimiter indeed doesn't have the space after the dashes. You need to adjust your message templates to include the space. You can check for the space by selecting the sig delimiter with the mouse. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuRD4YACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JyuQCfdUOjBiYfxs73hIRx5MROkaSD aOkAn2Ze3ZJmbc9cLTe92DvTcGcKNGhe =KU6q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Evaluation issues
While I'm enjoying my evaluation of The Bat! and like it a lot, I'm finding a few issues preventing me from enjoying it to it's fullest. Rather than suffer through them I thought I could list them here and get some help... 1) The message-editor doesn't work like any other I've used and it's taking some time to get used to it. a) For example, is it possible to automatically reflow after fixing a line. For example, suppose I've read the line above beginning with the 1, and decided I wanted to change message-editor to just editor and any other I've used to others. That causes the lines to reflow in other editors I've used, including Eudora and Netscape Mail. Do I need to edit it by hand to reflow it, or will it automatically reflow as it's sent? If I need to reflow it myself, is there something I can do to automate the process, or at least make it easier? b) The cursor doesn't move back to the left margin when it traverses a blank line, the way it does in most Windows text editors. Therefore, when I move down to the bottom to continue my message after seeing and fixing a line above, I must reposition the cursor. A side-effect of this appears to be that the -- sig delimeter is shortened to just --, as trailing blank spaces in lines appear to be truncated. c) The ability to cursor down past the end of a new email is a bit disconcerting, too. 2) I haven't figured out how to scroll through unread messages properly and efficiently. For example: a) When I first set up The Bat! I used 600 seconds as the time before messages would appear as read. I've since changed it to a significantly lower number, but I can only make the change at the highest level account and for posts already in my BatList folder, they don't seem to change to read at all. Is this property applied only when email is received? b) Other programs I use (Eudora and Netscape) have a button I can press which will automatically find (in Eudora's case) the next message, or (in Netscape's case) the next unread message. The Bat! doesn't seem to have either, and I've had to scroll through all the messages by hand. c) I haven't found a way to open up threads automaticallly by scrolling through them, and the folder list-window doesn't scroll automatically, so opening up all those + signs can take a long time. Am I missing something or somethings here? Or is this something I just need to get used to in order to use The Bat! ? I like the program, but I find that at the moment, reading list email with The Bat! takes significantly longer per message than reading list-mail with Netscape. Are there answers to my questions? Or do I just join the group writing to the wish-list smile? Thanks for any help. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman [EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.nobaloney.net Services to and for Internet Professionals -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 at 19:00:36 GMT +0700 (which was 9/1/2001 7:00 PM where you think I live) you told to the list : I don't think so. Free-online use qmail. qmail put delivered-to header only once, then if it get the same message (which has same delivered-to header), it would love to think that it is a loop problem. I agree, this is looping problem. Marck address on silverstones.com forward to free-online, while his MDaemon also collect free-online account through MultiPOP but set as Leave message on server. That's why the account in free-online excedeed his quota. For some reasons, Marck's server (MDaemon) do some header rewriting, (i.e rewrite return-path header) which cause this problem. Nope, while autoforward Mdaemon will keep return-path header intact. Next Monday, I can ask Marck to check his Mdaemon logs. I just change Marck membership to Digest, but I think better to set on Vacation Mode :-) -- Best regards, - Syafril - ..Opinion expressed are only mine * Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL : http://www.dutaint.co.id * Created : Saturday, September 01, 2001, 11:33:55 PM GMT +0700 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't unsubscribe
I tried to unsubcribe via the method provided in my original welcome e-mail and the link at the bottom of some member's signatures. I get the usual you are unsubscribed message back, but then this comes in: ++ Hi. This is the qmail-send program at excalibur.plus.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ++ At that point I continue to get TBUDL mail, but can't post a message...when I tried to post about continuing to get mail: ++ ... while talking to dip1.dutaint.com.: MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=787 550 mail from 24.93.35.63 refused by ORBL, see http://www.orbl.org ++ So I had to resubscribe to post this message! How I can I unsubscribe from the list successfully? Thanks, Gary -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Evaluation issues
Hello Jeff, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 10:05:52 -0700 GMT (02/09/2001, 01:05 +0800 GMT), Jeff wrote: J 1) The message-editor doesn't work like any other I've used and it's J taking some time to get used to it. True, but once you get used to it, you'll love it. J a) For example, is it possible to automatically reflow after fixing a J line. You can do it manually by placing the cursor into the paragraph with the arrow keys and hitting alt-L (for left jsutification), alt-R (right just) or alt-C (center). Alternatively, you can TB let it do automatically by using auto-format and/or auto-wrap under the Utilities menu in the editor. J b) The cursor doesn't move back to the left margin when it traverses a J blank line, the way it does in most Windows text editors. This is free caret interface, meaning that you can position the cursor anywhere you want and start writing. Try to do this in Word or Netscape. BTW, there are indeed Windows editors who use the same. I have been told that Word 2000 has accepted it, too. J A side-effect of this appears to be that the -- sig delimeter is J shortened to just --, as trailing blank spaces in lines appear to J be truncated. If you enter the sig delimiter, it will stay correct, unless you do something else in that very line. Only then will hte trailing space be deleted. J c) The ability to cursor down past the end of a new email is a bit J disconcerting, too. See above, free caret. J 2) I haven't figured out how to scroll through unread messages J properly and efficiently. For example: I scroll through the individual messages by just hitting the space bar repeatedly. When all text of one message has been shown, the next message (read or unread) opens automatically. J a) When I first set up The Bat! I used 600 seconds as the time J before messages would appear as read. [...] Is this property J applied only when email is received? AFAIK it is applied when you read new messages. J b) Other programs I use (Eudora and Netscape) have a button I can J press which will automatically find (in Eudora's case) the next J message, or (in Netscape's case) the next unread message. The Bat! J doesn't seem to have either, and I've had to scroll through all the J messages by hand. Use crtl-] to jump to the next unread message. Also take a look at Options / Preferences / Message List / When moving... J c) I haven't found a way to open up threads automaticallly by J scrolling through them, and the folder list-window doesn't scroll J automatically, so opening up all those + signs can take a long time. You can open all threads by hiting crtl-*. The folder list and the main message list are independent by design. J I like the program, but I find that at the moment, reading list email J with The Bat! takes significantly longer per message than reading J list-mail with Netscape. I hope these tips help you read your messages faster. ;-) J Are there answers to my questions? Or do I just join the group J writing to the wish-list smile? So far, everything you wish for is already there. g -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. That money talks, I'll not deny. I heard it once. It said, good-bye. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:49:55PM +0700, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: Nope, while autoforward Mdaemon will keep return-path header intact. Next Monday, I can ask Marck to check his Mdaemon logs. Well, not to mention the fact that return-path header has already changed by MDaemon. As I could remember, we have met this kind of problem, right? :-) Regards, -flash -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fix in the Mix?????? (a different approach to same question)
Hi Peter, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, at 19:54:32 +0200, you wrote: PP In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PP References: [EMAIL PROTECTED], PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why does Peter's message thread under the message with the subject Vulerability problem still exist? on my system? It has 2 references (??? There's only one message before this one in the thread, so where does the second reference come from?), one from the mail which Peter answered and one from the message it threads under on my system. Anyone having the same problem? Or does anyone know why this happened? -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
At 12:44 AM 9/2/2001 +0700, you wrote: Nope, while autoforward Mdaemon will keep return-path header intact. Next Monday, I can ask Marck to check his Mdaemon logs. Well, not to mention the fact that return-path header has already changed by MDaemon. As I could remember, we have met this kind of problem, right? :-) Yupe. At that time we have no Mdaemon logs, nor Qmail logs, and netzero involved. This case we will have Mdaemon logs, hope this will clarify more better. -- _syafril_ [ attachment or non text part has been remove by MDaemon ]
Re[2]: Fix in the Mix?????? (a different approach to same question)
Hello Peter, Historians believe that Saturday, September 01, 2001, 1:54:32 PM, was when, Peter typed the following: PP Hello Miles, PP On Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 12:26:15 PM you wrote: MA Bat Cats: MA Problem: MA The Bat! doesn't allow filename of attached file to contain '\' MA symbol, if name is specified as clear text. The problem is, that this MA check isn't performed then filename specified as RFC's 2047 MA 'encoded-word'. MA Is there a fix for this yet or does anyone have any info regarding MA same? PP AFAICS in latest Beta (1.54/7) this is fixed ... I was not able to reproduce PP it with given information from PP http://www.net-security.org/text/bugs/978700177,39196,.shtml PP Pit PP -- PP Regards PP Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PP (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 ) PP Whatever happened to Rodney Allen Rippy? Check your Jumbo Jack. So, where can 1.54/7 be accessed? -- Best regards, Milesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mental MeltDowns: Bloody hell, what was that ? The mayor of Hiroshima. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
advanced auto reply
I am one of those people who play an active role in trying to stop spammers. I filter all incoming messages not sent to me specifically into a spam folder. never fails. Each day I parse the email headers and report them to their ISP and email host. Suppose I wanted to forward, resend, or auto reply to the senders ISP rather than to the sender..?? For instance any spam coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED] would get forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with all header information. Sending all this back to the sender is easy.. How do I automatically send it to their Isp or email host..?? Would sure save me alot of time. Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fix in the Mix?????? (a different approach to same question)
Hello Lars, On Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 8:13:30 PM you wrote: LG Or does anyone know why this happened? I did in fact inserted both fitting message id's. MIles wrote two messages with at least the same problem, so I decided to alter (extend) the Follow-Up-To headers fields as it's an answer to both. Sorry if this confused you or somebody else. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 ) Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it binds the universe together. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:56:16AM +, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: At that time we have no Mdaemon logs, nor Qmail logs, and netzero involved. This case we will have Mdaemon logs, hope this will clarify more better. Indeed. But, hei .. I was never mention about namezero :-) That one didn't come to mine while talking about 'this' problem. I think, it's all about old version of MDaemon. Regards, Flash -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fix in the Mix?????? (a different approach to same question)
Hello Miles, On Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 8:29:14 PM you wrote: MA So, where can 1.54/7 be accessed? From http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/ But keep in mind: THIS IS A BETA! IT'S NOT INHERITED IT IS ABOLUTELY STABLE ON YOUR SYSTEM! DATA LOST OR DAMAGE MAY OCCOUR! As this list is not TBBETA please request further information regarding to BETA on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 ) Beware... The paranoids are watching you! (Principia Discordia) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi flash, On 01 September 2001 at 19:00:36 +0700 (which was 13:00 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: fwn it would love to think that it is a loop problem. It was a *real* loop problem :-( - see below. fwn For some reasons, Marck's server (MDaemon) do some header rewriting, fwn (i.e rewrite return-path header) which cause this problem. Correct. The fault was all mine ... now corrected. Apologies to all those affected - all should be back to normal now. For those interested in just how stupid an alleged professional can be (especially when doing things in too much of a rush), I've gone away for the weekend and set my local MDaemon server to forward all messages to my free-online account, which I can collect messages from while away. Guess who forgot to turn off the MultiPOP collector for the very same free-online account!!! Once again - sorry! :- - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/7-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7kNoGOeQkq5KdzaARAlcsAJ0YJq+ubAyfHKCwVmRePmuSLAvPhACeM3Vd vEN4WqtXZrxkQF+63vcaL5c= =aonS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: failure notice ??
Hello Marck, 1. september 2001, 14:52:21, you wrote: fwn For some reasons, Marck's server (MDaemon) do some header rewriting, fwn (i.e rewrite return-path header) which cause this problem. MDP Correct. The fault was all mine ... now corrected. Apologies to all MDP those affected - all should be back to normal now. Didn't bother me at all. Some of us are used to receiving error messages from individuals after writing to certain newsgroups (gimp-win :) -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.53d on Windows 98 4.10.1998. ] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
Hello Marck, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 13:52:21 +0100 GMT (01/09/2001, 20:52 +0800 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP Guess who forgot to turn off the MultiPOP collector for the very same MDP free-online account!!! LOLOLOLOL! :-D -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Auf Boot`s Hustenmedizin fur Kinder: Nach der Einnahme dieser Medizin nicht Auto fahren oder Maschinen bedienen. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advanced auto reply
Hello fusiontunes, On Sat, 01 Sep 2001 14:45:03 -0400 GMT (02/09/2001, 02:45 +0800 GMT), fusiontunes f fusiontunes wrote: fff Suppose I wanted to forward, resend, or auto reply to the senders fff ISP rather than to the sender..?? For instance any spam coming fff from [EMAIL PROTECTED] would get forwarded to fff [EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with all header information. Hmmm. Considering that the spam filter is the one that catches no false positives, you could use Forward To under the Actions tab. Come to think of it, you would need several filters: the first one catching all messages that contain @hotmail.com in the sender. Will be forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the next one for the next major ISP, and so on. With Regular Expressions, I am sure it would work with just two filters: one catching all those ISP's that need the spam report to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the other one catching all the rest, reporting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since you want to send the original headers, your method of forwarding should be sent to Mime. I don't know whether this works, I didn't try it. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advanced auto reply
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 03:45:03 +0800, you wrote these comments: ... TF Hmmm. Considering that the spam filter is the one that catches no TF false positives, you could use Forward To under the Actions tab. Come TF to think of it, you would need several filters: the first one catching TF all messages that contain @hotmail.com in the sender. Will be TF forwarded to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the next one for the next major ISP, TF and so on. TF With Regular Expressions, I am sure it would work with just two TF filters: one catching all those ISP's that need the spam report to TF [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the other one catching all the rest, TF reporting to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is likely to be a futile effort since spammers hardly ever use legitimate addresses that point to their true origin. - -- ©Allie C Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) PGP public key: http://pgpkey.ac-martin.com __ MUA: The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 [OS: Windows 2000 Service Pack 2] _ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Sealed for security. iEYEARECAAYFAjuRPVQACgkQV8nrYCsHF+LvqQCgtQzk93MRDAs0yA5bBKc6YkCc 178An2PD7C3ara+gR68La5/9ivdqYLo/ =DnnB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Header alteration (was: Fix in the Mix?)
Hello Lars, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 21:56:55 +0200 GMT (02/09/2001, 03:56 +0800 GMT), Lars Geiger wrote: LG Just out of curiosity: What software do you use to change the header LG lines in your messages? (This is slightly off-topic and perhaps not very LG interesting for others, so please answer in private e-mail.) This header you can change in TB. In the ditor window, go to View / Follow-up to and change the Reply-to header (I don't know why the field name is different from the header name). I use this sometimes to break a thread when the topic has changed a lot: I just delete all the entries there. Of course, you can also edit or add. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Rhubarb: A kind of celery gone bloodshot. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: advanced auto reply
Hello Allie, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 14:56:04 -0500 GMT (02/09/2001, 03:56 +0800 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: ACM This is likely to be a futile effort since spammers hardly ever use ACM legitimate addresses that point to their true origin. Mostly, but not always. Hotmail does reply: either you get a standard message that this is not a hotmail address, or they report that they closed the account. I did experience the latter. Also with other ISP's. I think the risk with the automation is that a friend might inform you that he has a hotmail account now - and you report him inwittingly. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS But it uses up a thousand times the memory. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
Hello Marck D Pearlstone, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 at 13:52:21 GMT +0100 (which was 9/2/2001 7:52 PM where you think I live) you told to the list : fwn For some reasons, Marck's server (MDaemon) do some header rewriting, fwn (i.e rewrite return-path header) which cause this problem. Correct. The fault was all mine ... now corrected. Apologies to all those affected - all should be back to normal now. Well.. I just change back your membership to Normal then. -- Best regards, - Syafril - ..Opinion expressed are only mine * Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL : http://www.dutaint.co.id * Created : Sunday, September 02, 2001, 3:06:25 AM GMT +0700 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Header alteration (was: Fix in the Mix?)
Hello Thomas, On Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 10:06:17 PM you wrote: TF This header you can change in TB. In the ditor window, go to View / TF Follow-up to and change the Reply-to header ACK :-) this is the only thing I've done. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/7 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Like many of the finer things in life, sex often comes with a side of fries. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't unsubscribe
Hello mailtemp, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 at 15:18:42 GMT -0500 (which was 9/2/2001 3:18 AM where you think I live) you told to the list : SH Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SH ^ SH see this As I said in the original post, I tried that link...same problem...wouldn't unsubscribe me (totally). Unsubscribed me to the point I could no longer post, but kept sending me subscriber mail. Any other thoughts? If you receive confirmation message from the list, please FORWARD (do not reply) it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not touch body text. -- Best regards, - Syafril - ..Opinion expressed are only mine * Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL : http://www.dutaint.co.id * Created : Sunday, September 02, 2001, 3:19:56 AM GMT +0700 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Can't unsubscribe
Hello Syafril, Saturday, September 01, 2001, 3:21:48 PM, you wrote: SH If you receive confirmation message from the list, please FORWARD (do SH not reply) it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not touch body text. I tried again, and got a reply with new instructions: +++ # [EMAIL PROTECTED] has requested that you be unsubscribed # from the tbudl mailing list. # To unsubscribe, reply to this message leaving the message body # intact, or send the following lines in e-mail to # [EMAIL PROTECTED]: // job appunsub tbudl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3B9147B0:7836.1:gohqy // eoj + I opted to send the lines in an e-mail, and got this reply: + appunsub tbudl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Invalid number of parameters. 3B9147B0:7836.1:gohqy Unknown command. + I will now try to FORWARD (even though the message states reply) and see what happens. But someone needs to look into the list unsubscribe scrits...something is seriously broken. Off for my fourth attempt at unsubscribing... Gary -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't unsubscribe
Hello mailtemp, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 at 15:57:23 GMT -0500 (which was 9/2/2001 3:57 AM where you think I live) you told to the list : SH If you receive confirmation message from the list, please FORWARD (do SH not reply) it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do not touch body text. I tried again, and got a reply with new instructions: +++ # [EMAIL PROTECTED] has requested that you be unsubscribed # from the tbudl mailing list. # To unsubscribe, reply to this message leaving the message body # intact, or send the following lines in e-mail to # [EMAIL PROTECTED]: // job appunsub tbudl [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3B9147B0:7836.1:gohqy // eoj + Uhmmm...I think I've add some word mention about Forwading alternative, will check again. I opted to send the lines in an e-mail, and got this reply: + appunsub tbudl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Invalid number of parameters. 3B9147B0:7836.1:gohqy ^^^ This making the command not recognize. Unknown command. + I will now try to FORWARD (even though the message states reply) and see what happens. But someone needs to look into the list unsubscribe scrits...something is seriously broken. The problem is, Listar not recognize TB! Quotestyle or quote. If you forward it, TB! will not add any quotestyle. Off for my fourth attempt at unsubscribing... Mail me offlist, if you still can not unsub afer forwading. Noted: the confirmation message only valid for 48-hours. -- Best regards, - Syafril - ..Opinion expressed are only mine * Name : Syafril Hermansyah |Company : Duta Integrasi Pratama Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Voice : (62) (21) 385-1600 FAXto : (62)(21)351-9241 key:000FAX |URL : http://www.dutaint.co.id * Created : Sunday, September 02, 2001, 3:53:06 AM GMT +0700 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Karin! On Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 2:37:30 PM you wrote: It's already implemented in TB. Go to your address book, pick a friend, go to the 'personal' tab and put in her/his birthday. TB will make a congrats mail at 00:00 of that day, or as soon as you open TB on that particular day. Hmm, I just remember the reminder, in which you have to click OK. Not completely automatic ... ;-) - -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.54 Beta/7 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Bureaucrats do not change the course of the ship of state. They merely adjust the compass. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBO5E+zPTo1oA8g8dLEQKyqgCgwR7xNzPdZ1dbAy5O7l3Fue0IGkIAnjWE lpAiGBZdNhT4sPzboQkjo0+l =nN1/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Severe* bug in IntPack
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.53o Serial Number 2B077B82 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 and would like to report a bug The bug description: Buttons in Delete folder form are changed (Cancelar is Yes and Aceptar is NO) Thats *very* incorrect. Steps to reproduce the bug: Switch to Spanish under language. Create a folder. (Crear Carpeta) Delete the folder. (Borrar carpeta) Press Cancelar Your folder has gone. I think it is a *severe* bug and must be fixed *immediately* You can accidentally delete an important folder Regards, -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator Subscriptions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53o on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 TB Tip of the Moment: You can use Space key to read messages without entering in the message text area. Once the end of a message is reached, a stroke of Space bar will take you to the next message. PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Address book
Saturday, September 01, 2001 3:19 PM GMT -0800 Hello Bat Users, Sorry if this is a duplicate message but I don't think the first one got through because it didn't show up on the list and I got that bounce back message from Marcks server. Hello Bat Users, Here is one that I have never seen on the list. I was looking around in The Bat's directories and opened thebat.abd address book file in a text editor just to see what it looked like. Still in this file are names and addresses that I deleted months ago. They don't show up when I open the address book but they *are* in the thebat.abd file. Had anyone else noticed this before? How would one purge this file of these deleted items without messing up the address book? Thanks, and hello everybody. I haven't posted in quite some time but have over 6000 messages in my Batlist folder. -- Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53d Under Windows 98se 4.10 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *Severe* bug in IntPack
Hello Chema, On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, at 23:38:00 [GMT +0200] (which was 01/09/2001 (D/M/Y) 23:38 where I live) you wrote: CB I think it is a *severe* bug and must be fixed *immediately* CB You can accidentally delete an important folder I reported this bug long ago, but it has not been corrected. I do not trust the Spanish version so I switched back to English. -- Best regards, Joan Josep mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Dierk Haasis On Sunday, September 02, 2001 you wrote: [Birthday reminder...] Hmm, I just remember the reminder, in which you have to click OK. Not completely automatic ... ;-) I'd like it automatic! And of course it would be nice to have a special Birthday template for that. PS. Is it already on the wishlist? regards, -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *Severe* bug in IntPack
Hello Listers, On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, at 00:48:40 [GMT +0200] (which was 0:48 where I live) Joan wrote: JJ I reported this bug long ago, but it has not been corrected. I JJ do not trust the Spanish version so I switched back to English. I reported it about 10-20 times -- Chema Berian mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Spanish GDUTB Moderator Subscriptions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.53o on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 TB Tip of the Moment: You can insert random taglines into your message to make your messaging look more alive to others - use %COOKIE macro in templates. PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday, September 01, 2001, at 05:10:26 PM PDT, Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: I'd like it automatic! And of course it would be nice to have a special Birthday template for that. sarcasm Yes - as long as your birthday wishes will be sent automatically by a machine, you may as well add the personal touch that a nicely put together template can add. ;-) /sarcasm No matter how much I like email (a lot!), when it comes to wishing someone a happy birthday or other such personal greeting, I still prefer sending - and receiving - a hand written note via snail mail. Even a phone call is nice. Not *everything* must be automatic - just because it *can* be. Some things, in my opinion, still mean more when done manually. Just my two cents. Melissa - -- PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Keys_8Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Personal Security 7.0.3 iQA/AwUBO5GENY1W11L7BPLpEQJs5QCg+VffzfEsNuUmv88PK6bOj2GIzJ4AoKI9 LphzyhKecM8i34d0z1FJ2A74 =fSvF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Bye Bye The Bat.... Say Hi to Becky!
Hello Melissa, Sunday, September 02, 2001, 1:59:16 AM, you wrote: MR No matter how much I like email (a lot!), when it comes to wishing MR someone a happy birthday or other such personal greeting, I still MR prefer sending - and receiving - a hand written note via snail mail. MR Even a phone call is nice. Not *everything* must be automatic - just MR because it *can* be. Some things, in my opinion, still mean more when MR done manually. I take your point here but consider, we all have a lot of contacts suppliers, friends, family, etc etc some of these groups friends/family we'd like to send personal mails to (i hope) but some like suppliers we'd like them to know we're thinking of them (get those brownie points) but may not always be able to remember/have the time to write hole emails. In this latter, being able to template a reply and 'top and tail' with a personal note would be good. I'm pretty sure also that if implemented correctly this feature could be very useful in other scenario's than birthdays. In which case templating might be more useful. Andrew -- Best regards, ::Andrew::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://at.omic.co.uk Using The Bat! 1.53d on Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Allie, On 01 September 2001 at 07:47:37 -0500 (which was 13:47 where I live) Allie C Martin wrote to TBUDL and made these points: ACM Yes, he configured MDaemon to deliver list mail to his free ACM e-mail address while he's away and this may be the problem. ACM Hopefully he'll be able to use MDaemons remote config system to ACM rectify it when he realises the problem. Sadly not. I had to wait until a friend could get to the house and change the settings. All should be fine now. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / TB! v1.54 Beta/7-14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7kOGeOeQkq5KdzaARAlrVAJ4480HdZQQ7MhR24MIswlKzxpvHewCfSP8E UIYRiKAiiMUX0uhw0AlKTCE= =TOsJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failure notice ??
Hi Syafril, Historians believe that Saturday, September 1, 2001 at 23:49 GMT +0700 was when, Syafril Hermansyah [SH] typed the following: SH [...] but I think better to set on Vacation Mode :-) What is Vacation Mode? Is it like the old Nomail option? -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBUDL Mission Statement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings Bat Listers, This is your monthly message from the moderation team to remind you of the primary purpose of this discussion list. To review the list rules, follow the link at the end of this message. .. TBUDL Mission statement .. Before posting a question to the list, please check The Bat! User's FAQ at: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html and the list archive at http://TBUDL.thebat.dutaint.com The TBUDL list has been set up for the purpose of discussing The Bat! and how to use it. It is a community of users ready and able to help new users get to grips with some of the capabilities of this flexible email client. More complex issues are discussed on the TBTECH list (see below for details). Simply send messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to send it to the whole list. To leave this list, send a message to the auto-responder at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. You *must* submit the unsub request from the email address at which you receive list traffic. You will not have left until you have responded to the confirmation message, sent to that address. If you wish to receive the list digest instead of individual mails, please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text.. DIGEST [EMAIL PROTECTED] (your_address) ..in the first line message BODY. Here's a quick link for it .. just double click here and send the message that is generated to begin receiving the list as a digest: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?[EMAIL PROTECTED]%20%28your_address%29 If you ever wish to change back to standard message mode, please send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text.. NORMAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] (your_address) ..in the first line message BODY. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?[EMAIL PROTECTED]%20%28your_address%29 .. It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to keep TBUDL messages in. If you do this, the next most useful thing to have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from your inbox into your TBUDL folder. Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for StringsLocationPresence Reply-to: TBUDLKludges Yes .. The TBUDL Rogues Gallery .. There is a TBUDL Rogues Gallery, letting you put a face to the name. The gallery can be viewed at http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/rogues.html Anyone else wishing to appear in the gallery, here's how: Send your picture by e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please provide it as a 120x144 jpeg image to reduce Marck's workload. For those of you who do not know how or do not have an image editing program to do this, send the image to Marck and he'll do it (if a bit reluctantly). Make sure you include your name and the e-mail address you want to use, as you want it to appear on the page. .. TBOT - The Bat off topic discussion list .. One of our members has created a list for those occasional off topic discussions of public interest. Please feel free to join this list, where many of our readership currently participate. Addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. TBTECH - The Bat technical discussion list .. The TBTECH list has been set up for the purpose of discussing The Bat! and related issues that are of a more technical nature than is catered for in the TBUDL list. Such topics as Regular Expression, RFC content and compliance, plug-in programming, Spell-checker semantics, 3rd party software, ISP policy, Internet protocols and anything else that would bore a beginner into leaving the TBUDL! Addresses: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Important disclaimer .. The moderators and list administrators are not affiliated with RIT Labs or the development of TB, although the developers are, themselves members of the list and will sometimes chip in. If you wish to contact the developers, please use The Bat! main menu Help .. Feedback options or, if
Re: advanced auto reply
Hello fusiontunes, Historians believe that Saturday, September 01, 2001 at 14:45 GMT -0400 was when, fusiontunes f fusiontunes [FFF] typed the following: FFF Suppose I wanted to forward, resend, or auto reply to the senders FFF ISP rather than to the sender..?? For instance any spam coming FFF from [EMAIL PROTECTED] would get forwarded to FFF [EMAIL PROTECTED] complete with all header information. In your template, use a regular expression to extract the domain name (ie @hotmail.com in this case). So the macro you'd want is: %TO='abuse%- %SETPATTREGEXP=@.*$%REGEXPMATCH=%OFROMADDR' When applied to your message, the following address would be added to the To list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course you can change the word abuse to whatever you like in the macro above. I don't know how you could choose automatically between [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A Ok, who is General Relativity, and what did he do with Sir Newton? -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *Severe* bug in IntPack
Hello Chema, On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 02:30:23 +0200 GMT (02/09/2001, 08:30 +0800 GMT), Chema Berian wrote: JJ I reported this bug long ago, but it has not been corrected. I JJ do not trust the Spanish version so I switched back to English. CB I reported it about 10-20 times This is not a (functional) bug but a translation error. It is extremely easy to fix, since Rit use this language compiler. May whoever is in charge of the Spanish interface translation, if he is on this list, kindly come forward. Otherwise, Chema, I suggest you contact Max directly, he supervises the language versions. He can tell you who does that Spanish translation and put you in touch with him. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. I intend to live forever - so far, so good. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.54 Beta/7 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
