How to create reports from The Bat! address book.

[Jean-Baptiste Lavedrine]

Hi,

Most of the time, address book are used to store useful
information. I would like to create some reports from all this
informations. Does anyone know if it is possible to link the ADB file
to a reporting tool (ie; Access)?

Jean-Baptiste


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Re: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Shahar]

Keith,
Highlight the account and press the Folder field on the bottom of the
accounts list.
You'll be asked to confirm the action and you'll have an alphabetical
order of your folders in this account.


Thank you for writing


On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 11:24:21, Keith wrote about:
Folder Alphabetical Order


 Hello TBUDL,

   Is  there anyway to make the folder list be in alphabetical order? I
 converted a Pegasus mailbox to TB and now everything is random order.


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Re: How to create reports from The Bat! address book.

[Shahar]

Jean-Baptiste,
Export and Import. I export to CSV file and Import it to M$ Access or
save it as an XLS file.


Thank you for writing


On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 11:23:41, Jean-Baptiste wrote about:
How to create reports from The Bat! address book.


 Hi,

 Most of the time, address book are used to store useful
 information. I would like to create some reports from all this
 informations. Does anyone know if it is possible to link the ADB file
 to a reporting tool (ie; Access)?

 Jean-Baptiste


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Re: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Maurice Snellen]

On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 01:24:21 [GMT -0800] (which was 10:24
where I live) Keith wrote:

K   Is  there anyway to make the folder list be in alphabetical order? I
K converted a Pegasus mailbox to TB and now everything is random order.

Click on the 'Name' column header on top of the folder list. After
confirming that this is what you want, your folders will be sorted
alphabetically.

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Re: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Keith,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:24:21 -0800GMT (25-1-02, 10:24 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

K   Is  there anyway to make the folder list be in alphabetical order? I
K converted a Pegasus mailbox to TB and now everything is random order.

Click on 'name' above the folder list and you'll get the warning that
the order of folders is about to be changed.

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Re[2]: How to create reports from The Bat! address book.

[Jean-Baptiste Lavedrine]

Shahar,

That's a way to do but I would like to avoid such transfer to keep
everything in sync. In fact, I'm wandering if the ADB file is not
built in a well known format.

Thanks,

Jean-Baptiste
--- Original message text -
S Jean-Baptiste,
S Export and Import. I export to CSV file and Import it to M$ Access or
S save it as an XLS file.


S Thank you for writing


S On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 11:23:41, Jean-Baptiste wrote about:
S How to create reports from The Bat! address book.


 Hi,

 Most of the time, address book are used to store useful
 information. I would like to create some reports from all this
 informations. Does anyone know if it is possible to link the ADB file
 to a reporting tool (ie; Access)?

 Jean-Baptiste



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Re: Editor and 30 day trial

[Roelof Otten]

Hello David,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:42:03 +GMT (25-1-02, 10:42 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

DC Another simple question ... when the 30 day trial is up what happens?
DC Am I locked out, does everything stay the same, can I export all my
DC mail somewhere else ... if I'm happy I'll buy a couple of copies, but
DC if not I'd like to know that I can still access recent e-mail stored
DC in The Bat!

You can still access your mail after the 30 days, as far as I
understood it, TB continues functioning.
You can export your mail though. You'd prefer to read your old mails
with your current mua, I suppose. TB can export to unix mailbox and to
.msg files. The latter is the same format as OE's .eml even though the
extensions differ, since most mua's can import from OE you'll have no
problems from there.

BTW You started a new thread by replying to a message from this list.
Since TB is a client that supports threading and most read this list
threaded by references (press Alt1 in the main window to see what
I mean), your message will be thought part of a different thread and
will be easily skipped by people not interested in the MAPI handling
of TB (in this case)
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Folder Order

[David Conroy]

Hi

And if I want my folders alphabetical, but still retain inbox, sentbox
and outbox at the top, is there a solution?

Cheers for now,

David 

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Friday, January 25, 2002, 9:49:21 AM, Roelof wrote:

RO Click on 'name' above the folder list and you'll get the warning that
RO the order of folders is about to be changed.


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Re: Folder Order

[Raj]

David,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, at 10:27:26 [GMT +] (which was 3:57 PM where I live) you
wrote:

DC And if I want my folders alphabetical, but still retain inbox, sentbox
DC and outbox at the top, is there a solution?

Sort it first and then Alt-drag the folders to where you want them.


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Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers

[Marcus Ohlström]

Hello,

I'm currently using The Bat! 1.53d at home and would like to use it at work 
on my laptop as well. Mostly I bring my laptop with me when I'm leaving the 
office, but not always. When I do, I will use the laptop to read my mails, 
but when I don't I will of course use my desktop at home.

Now comes the tricky part. When I bring my laptop home I would like to 
synchronize the mailboxes from the different computers so that they look 
exactly the same. A mail sent from my laptop should show up in my sent 
folder on both computers and of course a mail sent from my stationary 
should show up in the sent folder of my laptop as well.

If you have used Outlook on a laptop you know what I mean, when you come 
back to the office and plug the network cable in the local mailbox is 
synchronized with the server's mailboxes.

Is it possible to use The Bat! this way? I suppose I can run The Bat! in 
server mode at my stationary and as a client on my laptop, but will I still 
be able to send mail from the laptop when I'm not connected to my 
stationary? And will the mailboxes automatically synchronize when the two 
Bats get in contact with each other?

(I'm sorry for all my words, english isn't my native language and it's 
pretty annoying trying to explain what I mean in a language I don't speak 
or write fluent)

Regards,
Marcus Ohlström


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Re: Folder Order

[Roelof Otten]

Hello David,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:27:26 +GMT (25-1-02, 11:27 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

DC And if I want my folders alphabetical, but still retain inbox, sentbox
DC and outbox at the top, is there a solution?

Sure. Sort them and afterwards drag what's necessary back on top. You
can drag folders by dragging them with the mouse while pressing Alt

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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

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Hi syv,

On 25 January 2002 at 20:45:25 -0800 (which was 04:45 where I live)
syv wrote to Melissa Reese and made these points:

 So, how can I do the outdents?

 1. xxx

xx

1.  Autoformat off
2.  Smart tabs on.
3.  Auto indent on.
3.  Start typing your paragraph and as soon as the first line wraps to
the next line, hit home tab end and carry on typing. The
second and subsequent lines are self tabbed.

You can't auto-format these paragraphs, but you can reformat them.
Lines two and below you can simply mark with the mouse and press
Alt-L. The indent is preserved.

If you insert text in line one, it's a bit more tricky. Insert your
text. Hit end space home tab end Ctrl-Shift-Right del.
Then mark lines two and below and reformat.

If you shorten line one, hit end Ctrl-Shift-Right del end
space home tab. Then mark lines two and below and reformat.

It sounds complicated but actually isn't.

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WAS: wrapping mistery

[Luc]

Hi list,

Well, i finally figured out how the wrap stuff works lol.
Tnx to all advice.

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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

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Hi folks,

On 25 January 2002 at 11:12:48 + Marck D Pearlstone wrote to syv
on TBUDL and made these points:

... and included more typos and mistakes than he likes to leave
uncorrected:

 1.  Autoformat off
 2.  Smart tabs on.
 3.  Auto indent on.
 3.  Start typing your paragraph and as soon as the first line wraps to
  ^ 4
 the next line, hit home tab end and carry on typing. The
 second and subsequent lines are self tabbed.

 You can't auto-format these paragraphs, but you can reformat them.
 Lines two and below you can simply mark with the mouse and press
 Alt-L. The indent is preserved.

 If you insert text in line one, it's a bit more tricky. Insert your
 text. Hit end space home tab end Ctrl-Shift-Right del.
space ^
 Then mark lines two and below and reformat.

 If you shorten line one, hit end Ctrl-Shift-Right del end
space ^
 space home tab. Then mark lines two and below and reformat.

 It sounds complicated but actually isn't.

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Re: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers

[Alastair Scott]

On 25 January 2002 at 11:02 am Marcus wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm currently using The Bat! 1.53d at home and would like to use it at work 
 on my laptop as well. Mostly I bring my laptop with me when I'm leaving the 
 office, but not always. When I do, I will use the laptop to read my mails, 
 but when I don't I will of course use my desktop at home.

 Now comes the tricky part. When I bring my laptop home I would like to 
 synchronize the mailboxes from the different computers so that they look 
 exactly the same. A mail sent from my laptop should show up in my sent 
 folder on both computers and of course a mail sent from my stationary 
 should show up in the sent folder of my laptop as well.

 If you have used Outlook on a laptop you know what I mean, when you come 
 back to the office and plug the network cable in the local mailbox is 
 synchronized with the server's mailboxes.

 Is it possible to use The Bat! this way? I suppose I can run The Bat! in 
 server mode at my stationary and as a client on my laptop, but will I still 
 be able to send mail from the laptop when I'm not connected to my 
 stationary? And will the mailboxes automatically synchronize when the two 
 Bats get in contact with each other?

 (I'm sorry for all my words, english isn't my native language and it's 
 pretty annoying trying to explain what I mean in a language I don't speak 
 or write fluent)

You explained it excellently :)

Unfortunately, not many people (myself included) seem to use the
client-server functionality; I would always use Workstation with TCP/IP
(Options | Network  Administration), so can't help directly.

That said, I use two [manual] methods to synchronise between two machines:

1. Exporting and importing Unix mbox files (Tools | Export Messages);

2. more rarely Synchronisation (Tools | Synchronisation).

The first, for less than about 20 or 30 messages a day, works quite
well.

Alastair



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Re: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers

[Marcus Ohlström]

At 14:34 2002-01-25, you wrote:

Unfortunately, not many people (myself included) seem to use the
client-server functionality; I would always use Workstation with TCP/IP
(Options | Network  Administration), so can't help directly.

That said, I use two [manual] methods to synchronise between two machines:

1. Exporting and importing Unix mbox files (Tools | Export Messages);

2. more rarely Synchronisation (Tools | Synchronisation).

The first, for less than about 20 or 30 messages a day, works quite
well.

I think exporting and importing would be a little bit annoying after a 
while, since it involves to many actions to do on a daily basis, especially 
if I want to synchronize more than one folder (which I do, I would like to 
synchronize all folders). Even more, as I remember the export and import 
tools, it does not remember the status of the messages (i.e. read/unread, 
answered and so forth). I do not have access to The Bat! right now which 
means I can't try it, but I'm pretty sure it works that way.

Tools-Synchronization seems more interesting. Have you used this? Does it 
preserve message status as described above? What happens if I have the same 
message on both computers, does they show up twice in each mailbox or is 
The Bat! smart enough to recognize identically messages?

The best would be if I could synchronize both instances of my mail database 
with one single action, i.e. if I don't have to do anything more than 
pointing out the two directories containing the databases and start the 
operation.

Regards,
Marcus Ohlström

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Re[2]: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers

[Raj]

Marcus,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, at 15:06:29 [GMT +0100] (which was 7:36 PM where I live) you
wrote:

MO he best would be if I could synchronize both instances of my mail database 
MO with one single action, i.e. if I don't have to do anything more than 
MO pointing out the two directories containing the databases and start the 
MO operation.

I am giving below a snipped content from a mail on this subject earlier.

Say you've been using the laptop for a while and wish to switch to using the
desktop. You wish to update the desktops TB! installation so that the templates
and mail folders will be like the laptops. You'd do the following:

a) On the desktop, start the synchronisation panel and run step 1. What this
does is create a snapshot of the settings and mail folder structure/content,
present in the desktop installation.

Copy the file generated during this process to a zip disk.


b) On the laptop installation, open the synchronisation panel and select step 2.
In this step the laptop installation is compared with that of the desktop using
the file on the zip disk. You'll therefore be prompted for this file.

It will generate another file. This one will contain all the restoration data to
update the desktop installation to be like the laptop installation. You'll be
asked to enter a file name of your choice for this restoration file etc.

When you're finished, save this new file to a zip disk and go back to the desktop.

c) On the desktop, run step 3 in the synchronisation panel.

It will ask you for the restoration file that you generated on the laptop in
step 2. It will now use the data in that file to update the desktop
installation.

You're done!!

TGIF, Have a great weekend!
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I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it.

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PGP Decrypt observation

[Geordon VanTassle]

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Hello list,

  I was decrypting an encrypted mail this morning, and I was getting
  frustrated as to why I didn't see the cleartext.

  Then, I went back to the folder that the cyphertext was sitting in
  and saw a bunch of copies of the clear-text mail right there.
  Apparently, The Bat! dumps a new message, in clear, to the
  location from which it was decrypted.  Interesting!  Is there
  somewhere in the HELP that this behavior is documented?

  Thanks

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Synchronisation

[Geoff Lane]

Using The Bat! v1.53d on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6

I have an issue with synchronisation that arises because of the way
that I manage mail on my computers. I have two accounts, one
that is live and into which all my messages initially go. The other
is called Archive and, as it's name suggests, I move messages from
the main account to here when I don't them cluttering up my main
folders. I have the same structure on both desktop and laptop.
However, the transport settings are different. I have the laptop set
to never delete mail from my ISP and my email server on my network set
to delete after two days. This lets my email server and laptop both
access all messages. Unfortunately, the syncronisation process means
that some archived messages reappear in my main folders, some messages
appear twice, and I'm tearing my hair out trying to get things to work
smoothly. Here's the scenario with respect to two messages and two
syncronisations:

1. Message 1 received in main folder on desktop.
2. Accounts synchronised. Message 1 is now in main folder on laptop.
3. At the client's I check mail on my laptop and download message
   number 2.
4. Meanwhile, my email server downloads the second message and TB,
   which is left running on my desktop machine, downloads it from
   there. We now have two copies of the message with different headers
   (because they went by different routes and arrived in TB at
   different times).
5. On return from my client, I don't need to resync because all
   messages are already on my desktop machine.
6. Sometime before my next client visit, I archive message 1 on the
   desktop.
7. Just before visiting my client, I resync. The resync process copies
   message 1 from the main account on the laptop back to the main
   account on the desktop. In addition, because message 2 has
   different headers, each computer ends up with two copies.

I suspect that I could cut the problem in half by only synchronising
one way -- I suspect that would mean to create a data file from the
laptop, use this to create a sync archive from the desktop, then
load the archive into the laptop. However, that doesn't get around the
huge volume of messages that will accummulate on the laptop and it
doesn't get around the duplicate message issue. I had thought of
deleting all messages from the laptop before synchronising. However, I
have fifty-four folders, so that'll be somewhat tedious.

Any ideas?

TIA,

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Re: PGP Decrypt observation

[Gerd Ewald]

Hello Geordon VanTassle !

  
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 08:48:16 -0600 GMT your local time,
which was 25.01.2002, 15:48 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

[...]

   Then, I went back to the folder that the cyphertext was sitting in
   and saw a bunch of copies of the clear-text mail right there.
   Apparently, The Bat! dumps a new message, in clear, to the
   location from which it was decrypted.  Interesting!  Is there
   somewhere in the HELP that this behavior is documented?

AFAIK this is the normal behaviour of TB. The subject of the decrypted
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Re: Synchronizing two TB! mailboxes on different computers

[Marcus Ohlström]

First of all, thanks to everyone who has answered my question. I'm 
impressed by the quick response!


At 15:14 2002-01-25, you wrote:

It is smart enough to recognize that, but not if you move a message
from one folder to another on one of the systems. It will exist on
both locations on the other system after synchronisation.

Does this mean that the synchronization tool is not capable of handling 
deleted messages? If I delete a message on one computer I would of course 
want it to be deleted on the other as well upon synchronization, not 
recreated on the first.

Regards,
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Re: WAS: wrapping mistery

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 25-1-2002 @ 12:57:47 GMT+0100 (which was 12:57
where I live) Luc wrote and spread these wise comments on WAS:
wrapping mistery:

L Well, i finally figured out how the wrap stuff works lol.
L Tnx to all advice.

Especially to Roelof ;-)

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Re[2]: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Joe Finocchiaro]

Friday, January 25, 2002, 3:49:21 AM, you wrote:

 Hello Keith,

 On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:24:21 -0800GMT (25-1-02, 10:24 +0100GMT, where
 I live), you wrote:

K   Is  there anyway to make the folder list be in alphabetical order? I
K converted a Pegasus mailbox to TB and now everything is random order.

 Click on 'name' above the folder list and you'll get the warning that
 the order of folders is about to be changed.

Roelof, are there two versions of The Bat?

Don't you mean to click on the Folder header just above the list of
folders?

I don't have any name field anywhere???

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Re: How to create reports from The Bat! address book.

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Jean-Baptiste!

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 11:12:24 AM you wrote:

 That's a way to do but I would like to avoid such transfer to keep
 everything in sync. In fact, I'm wandering if the ADB file is not
 built in a well known format.

LDIF/LDAP!?

If you cut or copy an entry into your clipboard and paste it into a
text editor you can see it.

I should think you could sync a database with TB!'s AB by creating a
small application (possible with Paradox, DBase, DB/2 and others) that
calls up the AB file(s), reads them in, checks for duplicates, deletes
them and writes back into an AB file.


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Re: (Succesful) Removing Microsoft Outlook from the system

[Chema Berian]

Hello Listers, 

On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, at 11:48:38 [GMT +0100] Gerard and Januk wrote:

Gerard Now I just need to remove OE from my system.

Januk In  Windows  98  it is fairly easy, I'm not sure if the system
Januk has changed for W2K.

To  remove OE (and Outlook) from NT, 2K and XP, follow instructions in
this link:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q263837

I've tried and works fine.

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Re: Synchronisation

[Serge Skorokhodov]

Hello Geoff,

Friday, January 25, 2002, 5:57:49 PM, you wrote:

skip

 I suspect that I could cut the problem in half by only
 synchronising one way -- I suspect that would mean to create a
 data file from the laptop, use this to create a sync archive
 from the desktop, then load the archive into the laptop.
 However, that doesn't get around the huge volume of messages
 that will accummulate on the laptop and it doesn't get around
 the duplicate message issue. I had thought of deleting all
 messages from the laptop before synchronising. However, I have
 fifty-four folders, so that'll be somewhat tedious.

First, why do you have 'Archive' on both laptop and desktop? Do
you really need it this way? If you keep your archive in desktop
only, it'll resolve half the problem, eh? :-)Just do not synch it
at all.

Second, set both active accounts to delete received messages from
the server. Personally, I do this way and it works. The worst
thing you may run into is that moving the message to another
folder on one machine duplicates it after synch:( Use filters for
moving 'numerous classes of messages' and then
 Folder-Kill_dups_in_all_folders.

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Re: Editor and 30 day trial

[prayan visser]

  
  
  ---Original Message---
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Friday, January 
  25, 2002 02:17:36 AM
  To: David Conroy
  Subject: Re: Editor and 
  30 day trial
  
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  Hello 
  folks, i can tell you that my evaluation version quit working after 30 
  days, in spite of the factthat i paid for it less than a year ago.
  Repeated visits to their website, leaving messages in what few places i 
  could, have resulted in one absolutely zip for response.
  I am locked out, and now use this gimmicky incredimail that was highly 
  touted by tucows.
  It is soo slow to delete and show next message.
  would like my bat back!
  Prayan. 







 
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Re: Editor and 30 day trial

[prayan visser]

  
  
  ---Original Message---
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Friday, January 
  25, 2002 02:17:36 AM
  To: David Conroy
  Subject: Re: Editor and 
  30 day trial
  
  Hello David,On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:42:03 +GMT (25-1-02, 
  10:42 +0100GMT, whereI live), you wrote:DC Another simple 
  question ... when the 30 day trial is up what happens?
  It comes up, asks for registration key, and disappears again!
  I paid money for this, but after an upgrade and linking exe to new 
  disk, an evaluation copy started.
  And never a word from rit, after a month of trying.
  Anybody out there at rit??
  prayan







 
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Language support / spell checking

[Gerard de Vries]

Hi Bat Users,

 I would like to know if more people write emails in different languages
 on a regular basis. I do and it is a pain to switch spell checking each
 time to the right language.

 I first did this by write language switches in personal templates and
 although this works the big disadvantage is that you can't use
 templates for any other functions anymore because the personal ones
 overrule other templates.

 Does anybody have a better solution?

 If not could I request a language selection in the address book, it
 should automagicly switch the used spell checking dictionary to the
 proper language when writing emails to this person.

 
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Re: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Joe,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:29:51 -0600GMT (25-1-02, 16:29 +0100GMT, where
I live), you wrote:

 Click on 'name' above the folder list and you'll get the warning that
 the order of folders is about to be changed.

JF Roelof, are there two versions of The Bat?

Quite a lot more, actually. ;-) 1.53d (we're both using that) 1.53t
1.54 Beta/31, etc.

JF Don't you mean to click on the Folder header just above the list of
JF folders?

Ah, I understand what you're pointing at. Well, for you I mean
'folder', but my TB says name.

JF I don't have any name field anywhere???

There are different language files. Currently I'm using one with the
Dutch language for testing purposes. When I switch from Dutch to
English (as I do, before I refer to anything on this list) the English
version is not quite the same as with the language pack that I was
using before. Might have something to do with tested pack being
adapted for the current beta series.

Nothing to worry about. ;-)
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Re: Editor and 30 day trial

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi prayan,

On 25 January 2002 at 20:01:28 -0800 (which was 04:01 where I live)
prayan visser wrote in msgid:3C50D898.04.01048@hehe

Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules
and  many  of  the  members here do not appreciate  it. Some even have
filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash.

You could have simply asked here. Anyone could have told you to

a) copy the registry entries for your old copy or
b) retrieve the original registration code from the email you got when
   you registered. You did keep it like it said to, didn't you?

Failing all of that and, if you forgot the password, RITlabs website
includes a re-registration service for lost passwords for a 3 dollar
fee.

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Re: Editor and 30 day trial

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello prayan!

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 5:01:28 AM you wrote:

 It comes up, asks for registration key, and disappears again!
 I paid money for this, but after an upgrade and linking exe to new disk, an
 evaluation copy started.
 And never a word from rit, after a month of trying.
 Anybody out there at rit??

Hmm, have you tried to enter your code again?

I hope anybody at RITLabs will help you ASAP, since IncrediMail seems
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Re: Language support / spell checking

[Roelof Otten]

Hello Gerard,

On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:11:47 +0100GMT (25-1-2002, 17:11 +0100GMT,
where I live), you wrote:

GdV  I would like to know if more people write emails in different languages
GdV  on a regular basis. I do and it is a pain to switch spell checking each
GdV  time to the right language.

I'm doing so and I'm using folder templates for that purpose. I'm
filtering Dutch and English messages into separate folders. Of course
I haven't found a way to check whether a message is in a certain
language, but knowing certain senders you know their language and you
can fit them in an address book group and use those groups as
filtering conditions.

GdV  If not could I request a language selection in the address book, it
GdV  should automagicly switch the used spell checking dictionary to the
GdV  proper language when writing emails to this person.

That would be a nice feature, but would you like such a feature to be
overruled by the %language= macro or would you like the macro to be
overruled by the proposed address book switch?
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Re: Synchronisation

[Geoff Lane]

Friday, January 25, 2002, 3:47:31 PM, Serge Skorokhodov wrote:

 First, why do you have 'Archive' on both laptop and desktop? Do
 you really need it this way? If you keep your archive in desktop
 only, it'll resolve half the problem, eh? :-)Just do not synch it
 at all.

 Second, set both active accounts to delete received messages from
 the server. Personally, I do this way and it works. The worst
 thing you may run into is that moving the message to another
 folder on one machine duplicates it after synch:( Use filters for
 moving 'numerous classes of messages' and then
  Folder-Kill_dups_in_all_folders.
---

Hi Serge, and thanks.

Strangely enough, the archive is not a problem. Once messages find
their way there, they stay put and, since I never move messages to
archive on the laptop, there is only one copy. Having the archive
makes things a little easier and it doesn't take too long to load.
When it does get onerous, I'll leave messages in the main account a
little longer and do as you say.

Unfortunately, both accounts deleting from the server is not an option
for two reasons. I check mail from my laptop to see whether anything
new has come in -- if my office email server deletes the message, I
can't get at it from the laptop. Also, I'm not the only user at chéz
nous. If my laptop deletes from the ISP, the others won't get their
mail!

FWIW, being able to block-delete all messages from an account would do
it. The problem is the old messages that come back from the laptop and
the duplicate messages that come via the other route. If I deleted all
messages from the laptop before syncing, there would be no extra
baggage to come back from the laptop.

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Re[2]: Upgrading to Secure Bat !

[myob]

Hello David,

Thursday, January 24, 2002, 9:40:47 PM, you wrote:


DE On 24 January 2002 at 21:55:05 +0100 (which was 20:55 where I live) Claude
DE Renaud emanated these words of wisdom

CR I own a private license of the bat! I would like to know if it exists an
CR upgrade possibility to the secure bat! program, and how much it costs ?

DE Have a look at http://www.ritlabs.com/securebat/

Looking quickly at that, I couldn't see the price.
Where/what is it, please?





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Re: Upgrading to Secure Bat !

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Hello myob,

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 17:48:50 +, myob [M] wrote
concerning 'Upgrading to Secure Bat !':
...
DE Have a look at http://www.ritlabs.com/securebat/

m Looking quickly at that, I couldn't see the price.
m Where/what is it, please?

Have a look at this page:
https://www.cifnet.com/cgi-bin/ritlabs/securebat.html

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Message progression

[Joseph N.]

When I try to progress from the first of a threaded series of messages
(in open status) to the next by clicking one of the next arrows,
what opens instead is the next thread.  Is there a way to keep the
messages threaded in the message list window, yet open one of the
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Re: Language support / spell checking

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Gerard!

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 5:11:47 PM you wrote:

  Does anybody have a better solution?

Quick Templates?

You can also define different accounts/folders for each language,
filter the messages into them and use account/folder templates.

I'd go for the QT's, make some basic ones for each language and each
purpose and insert them when needed. I've set up QT's for new
messages, replies and forwarding in English and German; they are
further defined as business and private. Whenever I don't have an AB
template and the account templates are not sufficient I mark all the
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Re: Upgrading to Secure Bat !

[David van Zuijlekom]

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Hello myob,

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 18:21:29 +, myob [M] wrote
concerning 'Upgrading to Secure Bat !':
...
m But $140 is way outside my price range :-(

But that's with the iKey1000 token included.

BTW: you full-quoted my message. That's hardly informative. You can
select the part of the message and press F4 and TB! only quotes the
select text! ;-)

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Re[2]: ABD display order

[Joseph N.]

JN I have created a new address book and imported a lot of contacts
JN from a separate program in vCard format.  They are all listed as
JN Title Firstname MI Lastname.  I would rather they were listed
JN as Lastname, Firstname MI, but there are too many to go through
JN the entire list. Any chance there's an EZ remedy?

 2.  What  you  could  do is to export the current AB to a csv
 format. Then using excel  open the .csv file. Move the name coloumns
 as required. Then re-import to to a new address book.

Thanks, but TB! still defaults to the same Display As format.  I'll
just live with it the way it is.

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Re[2]: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

[Joseph N.]

 Marck D Pearlstone wrote on Friday, January 25, 2002:

 1.  Autoformat off
 2.  Smart tabs on.

What are smart tabs?

JN


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Re: Messages on server

[Keith]

On 1/25/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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about Messages on server

 is it correct
 that each message remains on the server until two days passes OR it
 has been removed from trash?

Hello Joseph,

If  you  delete  a  message  to trash then it will be deleted from the
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Re: PGP Decrypt observation

[Carren Stuart]

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Hash: SHA1

On Saturday, 26 January 2002 at 3:48 a.m. Geordon wrote: 


GV I was decrypting an encrypted mail this morning, and I was getting
GV frustrated as to why I didn't see the cleartext.

GV Then, I went back to the folder that the cyphertext was sitting in
GV and saw a bunch of copies of the clear-text mail right there.
GV Apparently, The Bat! dumps a new message, in clear, to the
GV location from which it was decrypted. Interesting! Is there
GV somewhere in the HELP that this behavior is documented?


This is something that I have just recently discovered since
installing the PGP plugin. It seems to be a feature of the plugin and
is something that I *hate*! As far as I am concerned this feature
totally defeats the purpose of encryption. It is simply too easy to
forget to delete the unencrypted copy when you are finished with it.

Consequently, I have gone back to using PGP tray for decrypting
messages so that I can be absolutely certain I have not left any
confidential unencrypted messages sitting where anyone can access
them.

I have always used PGP tray for all my signing, encrypting, decrypting
and only installed the plugin out of curiosity. Needless to say, I far
prefer the security of doing it the *normal* way.


Carren


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Re: Selective Quoting

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Hello wee,

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 19:17:43 +, wee David [WD] wrote
concerning 'Selective Quoting':
...
wD Is it okay to reply to a message and start a new thread by using
wD [was original topic]

Yes no problem.

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Re[2]: Upgrading to Secure Bat !

[myob]

Hello David,

Friday, January 25, 2002, 6:39:49 PM, you wrote:

DvZ You can
DvZ select the part of the message and press F4 and TB! only quotes the
DvZ select text! ;-)

Thanks, David - what a lot I'm learning from this list :-)



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Re: Selective Quoting

[Nick Andriash]

Hello David van Zuijlekom,

On Friday, January 25 2002 at 12:28 PM PDT, you wrote:

 wD Is it okay to reply to a message and start a new thread by using
 wD [was original topic]
 
 Yes no problem.

Actually no, because although you have made mention of the original
subject with your change, those who thread by reference will still show
your message buried within the original subject thread, and if they were
not that interested in that particular subject, won't open the thread...
and thus miss your 'new' subject.

When changing the subject, it is always best to start with a new message
and hopefully create a new thread.


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Re: the Bat PGP DLL's

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Keith,

On Thursday, January 24 2002 at 06:13 PM PDT, you wrote:

  How do I properly install the PGP DLL for the bat? I have downloaded
 the files the the web site, but there are no instructions in the ZIP
 file or in the FAQ on where to install the DLL and how to use them.

Although Geordon has answered your question, you do bring up a good
point, and that is RITLabs should include a small ReadMe.txt file that
explains what to do/where to put it... type instructions within the
archive.


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Changing SUbject

[wee David]

Hi Nick.

 Actually no, because although you have made mention of the original
 subject with your change, those who thread by reference will still show
 your message buried within the original subject thread, and if they were
 not that interested in that particular subject, won't open the thread...
 and thus miss your 'new' subject.
 
 When changing the subject, it is always best to start with a new message
 and hopefully create a new thread.

Hopefully this is better than what I did before, and the threading
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Re: wrapping mystery

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Luc,

On Thursday, January 24 2002 at 01:15 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Maybe i'm slow but that means that 99% (yes, also on this list) of all those whose 
mail i
 receive haven't set a wrap (or a long one) and my window isn't as wide
 as those original messages.
 Only yours (of course !) comes out right.
 So, there's nothing i can do about it?

Luc, I've left the line lengths in the above quote exactly as received.
As you can see, they are quite broken and difficult to read/follow. TB
has basically a WYSIWYG Editor, so you must be seeing what I see when
you send the message. 

How many characters wide is your Message Editor window? When you type,
do you sometimes hit the 'return' key when you want to end a sentence?


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Re: Synchronisation

[Geoff Lane]

Friday, January 25, 2002, 6:04:09 PM, Serge Skorokhodov wrote:

 Well. Install Hamster on your laptop and let it collect the mail
 without deleting it. On laptop's TB! create an account that will
 collect the mail from the Hamster without deleting it.

 Create an account on your desktop TB! that will collect the mail
 from Hamster on your laptop and delete the mail. The name of
 account must be the same as the name of laptop Hamster bound
 account! Otherwise you won't be able to synchronize them! And
 never download the mail from ISP directly onto your desktop:)
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Hi Serge,

Thanks for the suggestion.

I could equally use VPOP3 for that purpose (that's the email server
that I use on my network). However, my clients tend to be 300 to 500
kilometers from my office, so I go for a few days at a time. If my
laptop's running the corporate mail server, our other users won't get
their mail until I get back from the client!

I've just had a thought -- what I want is to delete all email from the
main account on the laptop before synchronisation. So, if I set up
each folder with a short-ish keep for nn days setting and/or a small
message count, then purge all folders on the laptop before doing a
sync, that should do the trick!

Thanks again,

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Re: wrapping mystery

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Luc,

On Thursday, January 24 2002 at 01:15 PM PDT, you wrote:

 That's strange: i have TB! set to wrap at 70

That doesn't make any sense, because your opening remark:

It was foretold that on 25-1-2002 @ 00:49:48 GMT+ (which was 1:49
where

is 76 characters in length. Where exactly have you set that wrap setting?


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Re: Selective Quoting

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Alan,
On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 12:41:08 [GMT -0800], you wrote:

AP I remember reading that that is not okay.. When starting a new
AP topic, start a new thread. Some people will not be following a
AP certain thread, so any new topics in that thread could be missed by
AP people.

That depends. If a thread changes its topic, that change should be
reflected by adjusting the subject. But if a completely new topic arises
(in a new message, independent of any other message), this topic should
start a new thread.

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Re[2]: Synchronisation

[Serge Skorokhodov]

Hello Geoff,

Friday, January 25, 2002, 11:46:25 PM, you wrote:

 I've just had a thought -- what I want is to delete all email
 from the main account on the laptop before synchronisation. So,
 if I set up each folder with a short-ish keep for nn days
 setting and/or a small message count, then purge all folders on
 the laptop before doing a sync, that should do the trick!

It may be quicker just to delete accounts on laptop and then
restore them from the backup made on the desktop:)

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Re: Synchronisation

[Geoff Lane]

Friday, January 25, 2002, 9:24:44 PM, Serge Skorokhodov wrote:

 It may be quicker just to delete accounts on laptop and then
 restore them from the backup made on the desktop:)
---

Thanks,

I tried that, but that restores the folder settings -- and they're
different on the laptop and desktop. For example, they use different
servers and user accounts.

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Re: Selective Quoting

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Hello Nick,

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 12:42:52 -0800, Nick Andriash [NA]
wrote concerning 'Selective Quoting':
...
NA Actually no

Yes you're probably right. But I think it depends on how much the
subject is changed. If it's still related to the topic you can reply
to this thread, but if it's a complete different subject you better
start a new message or delete the references (the follow-up to
contents).

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Re: Language support / spell checking

[Miguel A. Urech]

Hi Gerard,

 Does anybody have a better solution?

I regularly write e-mail in both Spanish and English, about 50-50, so
it was pain for me until I found a way with Quick Templates.

I have created two QTs, one called BR for English and one SP for
Spanish.
  BR is just %LANGUAGE=BR
  SP is %LANGUAGE=SP
Both of them are shared so I can use them from all accounts.

Then, when I'm writing a message, no matter if it is new, a reply or
fwd, and whether I'm using an account, folder or AB template, if I see
I'm using the wrong language dictionary I can at any moment and place
type: BRCtrl+Space or SPCtrl+Space to switch to the proper
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Automatic redirection

[David Denton]

Hello TBUDL,

  Is it possible to filter and automatically redirect certain incoming
  messages mail to another address? How would I do this?

  Many thanks in advance for your help on this.

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Re: Automatic redirection

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello David,

On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 11:47:11 PM you wrote (at least in
part):

DD   Is it possible to filter and automatically redirect certain incoming
DD   messages mail to another address? How would I do this?

Create a new filter with matching criteria choose tab Action. Scroll
down and see: 'Redirect message to'. Now you can modify the template
used for this action and you should be done.

HTH Pit

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Re[2]: Automatic redirection

[David Denton]

Hello Peter,

Friday, January 25, 2002, 5:46:14 PM, you wrote:

PP Create a new filter with matching criteria choose tab Action. Scroll
PP down and see: 'Redirect message to'. Now you can modify the template
PP used for this action and you should be done.

That's solved quickly. I didn't realize that the Actions tab scrolled
down, revealing a host of other choices. Fantastic! Many thanks.

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Re[2]: wrapping mystery

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 25-1-2002 @ 13:01:58 GMT-0800 (which was 22:01
where I live) Nick Andriash wrote and spread these wise comments on
wrapping mystery:

NA Where exactly have you set that wrap setting?

Editor preferences: wrap text at...

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Re: wrapping mystery

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Luc,

On Thursday, January 24 2002 at 06:11 PM PDT, you wrote:

 RO But probably you've unchecked 'autowrap' in the editor
 RO preferences:
 RO  Options - Editor preferences - general tab
 
 It is checked

Luc, check your Reply Template and see if you have the %WRAPPED Macro
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Re[2]: wrapping mystery

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 25-1-2002 @ 12:58:54 GMT-0800 (which was 21:58
where I live) Nick Andriash wrote and spread these wise comments on
wrapping mystery:

NA How many characters wide is your Message Editor window? When you type,
NA do you sometimes hit the 'return' key when you want to end a sentence?

Sometimes i use 'return'. Is there a way to check in TB! how many
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Re: Usin TB as simple MAPI request handler

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Joseph,

On 25 January 2002 at 13:07:13 -0600 (which was 19:07 where I live)
Joseph N. wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2.  Smart tabs on.

 What are smart tabs?

Smart tabs are the way TB lets you use tab to align to columns:

For example,

  Column1  Column2   Column3
  Return gets me here  Tab to here   and to here

Smart is the way TB works out the column position from the spacing
in the previous row.

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Re[2]: wrapping mystery

[Luc]

It was foretold that on 25-1-2002 @ 14:59:57 GMT-0800 (which was 23:59
where I live) Nick Andriash wrote and spread these wise comments on
wrapping mystery:

NA Luc, check your Reply Template and see if you have the %WRAPPED Macro
NA included with your quoted material.

No Nick, but i have done it now, amthough i'm not sure if i used the
correct expression:
%WRAPPED=%Quotes ?

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Re: Selective Quoting

[Nick Andriash]

Hello David van Zuijlekom,

On Friday, January 25 2002 at 02:16 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Yes you're probably right. But I think it depends on how much the
 subject is changed. If it's still related to the topic you can reply
 to this thread, but if it's a complete different subject you better
 start a new message or delete the references (the follow-up to
 contents).

Yes, although that is true David, it just seems simpler to recommend
that Users start a new message when changing the subject.


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Re: wrapping mystery

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Nick,

On 25 January 2002 at 14:59:57 -0800 (which was 22:59 where I live)
Nick Andriash wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 RO But probably you've unchecked 'autowrap' in the editor
 RO preferences:
 RO  Options - Editor preferences - general tab

 It is checked

 Luc, check your Reply Template and see if you have the %WRAPPED Macro
 included with your quoted material.

... Not that it will help much - it only wraps a single paragraph.

There's a QT which will recursively wrap complete quotes, but it
requires the 1.54 beta and has no respect for bullet lists or
pre-formatted stuff, so I've stopped using it.

I think we digress and I can't figure out what might be up with Luc's
settings other than not using Alt-L when modifying a previously
formatted paragraph.

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Re: wrapping mystery

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Luc,

On 25 January 2002 at 00:09:44 +0100 (which was 23:09 where I live)
Luc wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

NA Luc, check your Reply Template and see if you have the %WRAPPED Macro
NA included with your quoted material.

 No Nick, but i have done it now, amthough i'm not sure if i used the
 correct expression:
 %WRAPPED=%Quotes ?

No - that was a bit of a bum steer. That will only wrap the first
paragraph.

I think your problem comes with re-editing. You might like to get used
to the Ctrl-Shift-F toggle. It turns auto-format on and off. Then TB
reflows text as you type (when it's on). For instance, go to the end
of a quoted para and press space to see it reflow.

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Re[2]: PGP Decrypt observation

[Carren Stuart]

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On Saturday, 26 January 2002 at 12:04 p.m. Marck wrote: 



MDP That's where TB's beautiful Read message filters come into play.

MDP Source  : Inbox
MDP Move to : (same)
MDP String  : \(PGP Decrypted\)
MDP Location: Subject
MDP Actions : Delete message
MDP Option  : RegEx

MDP Create one for every folder that you may use to decrypt messages
into
MDP and you'll never leave one lying around again.


Thanks Marck!

As usual TB! always has an answer to everything, and that was the last
thing I would have thought of doing!

Still, I think the plugin's action in this matter is far from ideal and
not at all in keeping with a security function. I am no expert but why
can't the unencrypted messages be read in a seperate viewer as they
are when using PGP tray or GnuPG? Surely it can't be too difficult for
the experts to get it to do that rather than to drop a copy in the
folder.

So far, I see no advantage in using the plugin over the tray commands.
Aside from the *weird* characters it drops into my mails and the above
security issue - the plugin to me is no quicker and no more convenient
that using the tray or hotkeys function. JMHO! :-)


Carren

PGP public key:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Key_Body=Please%20send%20key




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Re: Automatic redirection

[Ottar Grimstad]

Hello David,

25 Jan 2002, 11:59:36 pm, you wrote to TBUDL:

DD I didn't realize that the Actions tab scrolled down,

  Welcome to the club. I get the impression that most The Bat users
  have had selective blindness concerning this scrollbar. It is one of
  these interface issues that should be corrected.

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Re: PGP Decrypt observation

[Marck D Pearlstone]

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Hi Carren,

On 25 January 2002 at 09:18:56 +1300 (which was 20:18 where I live)
Carren Stuart wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This is something that I have just recently discovered since
 installing the PGP plugin. It seems to be a feature of the plugin and
 is something that I *hate*! As far as I am concerned this feature
 totally defeats the purpose of encryption. It is simply too easy to
 forget to delete the unencrypted copy when you are finished with it.

That's where TB's beautiful Read message filters come into play.

Source  : Inbox
Move to : (same)
String  : \(PGP Decrypted\)
Location: Subject
Actions : Delete message
Option  : RegEx

Create one for every folder that you may use to decrypt messages into
and you'll never leave one lying around again.

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Re: PGP Decrypt observation

[Geordon VanTassle]

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 On Friday, January 25, 2002 at 12:45:21 GMT +1300 (which was 5:45 PM where I live), 
this spake Carren Stuart on the subject of PGP Decrypt observation:




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CS On Saturday, 26 January 2002 at 12:04 p.m. Marck wrote:



MDP That's where TB's beautiful Read message filters come into play.

MDP Source  : Inbox
MDP Move to : (same)
MDP String  : \(PGP Decrypted\)
MDP Location: Subject
MDP Actions : Delete message
MDP Option  : RegEx

MDP Create one for every folder that you may use to decrypt messages
CS into
MDP and you'll never leave one lying around again.


CS Thanks Marck!

CS As usual TB! always has an answer to everything, and that was the last
CS thing I would have thought of doing!

CS Still, I think the plugin's action in this matter is far from ideal and
CS not at all in keeping with a security function. I am no expert but why
CS can't the unencrypted messages be read in a seperate viewer as they
CS are when using PGP tray or GnuPG? Surely it can't be too difficult for
CS the experts to get it to do that rather than to drop a copy in the
CS folder.

CS So far, I see no advantage in using the plugin over the tray commands.
CS Aside from the *weird* characters it drops into my mails and the above
CS security issue - the plugin to me is no quicker and no more convenient
CS that using the tray or hotkeys function. JMHO! :-)

If it were possible for the plugin to use the Secure viewer function
of PGP, that would be excellent.  I know that it worked with Outlook
ant Eudora that way, but this seems to be different.

Can we get some/any input from someone in the know about that?

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How to unpark multiple messages

[Carren Stuart]

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OK ... probably another really silly question but how do I unpark
multiple numbers of messages in one foul swoop?

Something similar to right clicking on a folder and selecting mark
all as read. There is nothing I can see to park or unpark all
messages in a folder.

Am I missing something again or is this something that can only be
done manually?


Carren


PGP public key:
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Re: How to unpark multiple messages

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Friday, January 25, 2002, 7:56:47 PM, Carren Stuart wrote:

 OK ... probably another really silly question but how do I unpark
 multiple numbers of messages in one foul swoop?

 Something similar to right clicking on a folder and selecting mark
 all as read. There is nothing I can see to park or unpark all
 messages in a folder.

 Am I missing something again or is this something that can only be
 done manually?

you can click the top of the park column and sort all the flagged
messages to the top. You can then block them and unpark them all with
the message pulldown unpark command.

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Re: Changing SUbject

[Nick Andriash]

Hello wee David,

On Friday, January 25 2002 at 12:50 PM PDT, you wrote:

 Hopefully this is better than what I did before, and the threading
 should work.

Threading will have worked in either case, only by starting with a new
message.. your new subject will receive the exposure you want. :o)


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Re[2]: How to unpark multiple messages

[Carren Stuart]

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On Saturday, 26 January 2002 at 3:26 p.m. Chris, Keith and Dwight
wrote:


DAC you can click the top of the park column and sort all the flagged
DAC messages to the top. You can then block them and unpark them all
DAC with the message pulldown unpark command.


Thanks guys! Knew there would be a way! I learn something new
everyday! :-)


Carren

PGP public key:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP_Key_Body=Please%20send%20key

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Re[2]: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Joe Finocchiaro]

Friday, January 25, 2002, 10:16:30 AM, you wrote:

[...]
JF I don't have any name field anywhere???

 There are different language files. Currently I'm using one with the
 Dutch language for testing purposes. When I switch from Dutch to
 English (as I do, before I refer to anything on this list) the English
 version is not quite the same as with the language pack that I was
 using before. Might have something to do with tested pack being
 adapted for the current beta series.

 Nothing to worry about. ;-)

Whew.

I guess I can stop looking for that name heading now, eh?

:)

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Re[2]: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Joe Finocchiaro]

Friday, January 25, 2002, 10:16:30 AM, you wrote:

[...]
JF I don't have any name field anywhere???

 There are different language files. Currently I'm using one with the
 Dutch language for testing purposes. When I switch from Dutch to
 English (as I do, before I refer to anything on this list) the English
 version is not quite the same as with the language pack that I was
 using before. Might have something to do with tested pack being
 adapted for the current beta series.

 Nothing to worry about. ;-)

Whew.

I guess I can stop looking for that name heading now, eh?

:)

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Re: Default template for new mail conctact?

[Raj]

Giamma,

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, at 00:46:12 [GMT +0100] (which was 5:16 AM where I live) you
wrote:

G I`m wondering: when I make a new address book entry, sometimes I
G   want define a message template that differs just a bit from the
G   default (i.e., cookies or a different nickname); actually i must
G   go to main window--preferences and copy the default template for
G   each tab, then modify...

At the AB level I guess not, Folder level yes.

What I have done to overcome this is to use Quick Templates (QT). I have created
QT's  for different parts of a message. Like Addressing, Sign, Cookies and about
the MUA  H/w config.

For  e.g  I have two clear ways to greet people - One is formal  informal. Then
depending  on  the AB entry I just call the reqd QT and ensure that the AB entry
is  correctly  formatted. To illustrate I use the %ABtoFirstname in greeting for
friends and then ensure that a friend called Robert who is known as Bob, I enter
Bob in the first name field.

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Re: Folder Alphabetical Order

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Friday, January 25, 2002, 9:45:18 PM, Joe Finocchiaro wrote:

 I guess I can stop looking for that name heading now, eh?
or change languages
 :)



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TB MFAQ

[Raj]

Fellow TB users,

I have been following this list for some time now and have realized that quite a
few  questions  are  asked  most  often.  This being the case I have created the
following page addressing the same.

http://www.mailmejobs.com/tbmaq.htm

While  there  is  nothing new as such, I have attempted to answer the most asked
questions and put them all together.

In case any of you advanced users feel this could be improved do let me know off
the list.

To the Moderators : Any way this link could be used in the intro message so that
beginners could have a look here ?

ps : PGP is one more topic where questions are often asked...But as I do not use
PGP and consequently do not follow threads with PGP in the subject.

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