Re: thebat 1.60 and ssl/tls

2002-03-28 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Bob,

Seems the mail server you're trying to connect to uses only

Cipher: RC4-SHA

in it's SSL/TLS implementation. I don't know which Ciphers are
supported by The Bat!, but I'd guess, from your error message, this one
ain't :-/

A correct answer can only be given by RIT directly so maybe you want
to drop them a note directly ...

Pit
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Re: TB! mailaccounts (OT?)

2002-03-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Joseph!

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 5:57:02 AM you wrote:

 No clue what you're talking about.  What is Netcaptor?  What is
 Babylon?  Sounds very interesting

Netcaptor: A browser using IE's engine.

Babylon: A website to translate texts.

Another option would be to use Opera 6.xx which has some dictionary,
translation, search and encyclopedic sites built into it.


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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Melissa!

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 4:54:18 AM you wrote:

 I don't see many mailto:s starting with upper case Ms, so I'm not
 sure if this problem is just with TB!'s RTV or if mailto:s are only
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Re: TB! mailaccounts (OT?)

2002-03-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Luc!

On Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 7:21:25 PM you wrote:

  Tnx !!

Not to mention.

BTW, sorry I haven't replied to your question about settings - in the
moment I have to force myself from the computer. and yesterday I was
successful - due to some sunshine and even slightly tolerable
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Re: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread Stefan Tanurkov

Hello Databug, 

D Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...

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Re[2]: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread Bob Ershov

Hello Stefan,

Thursday, March 28, 2002, 1:54:34 PM, you wrote:

ST Hello Databug, 

D Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

ST Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...
where can i get changes for thebat beta ? or subcribe to beta mailling
list?

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Re: Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?

2002-03-28 Thread Sebastian


Well, this has to be a bug then - I am using XP.

Thanks for your input. :)

Sebastian.

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Subject: Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:51:25 +0100, Jernej Simonèiè [JS] wrote these
comments:
...
ACM I see what you mean. It does seem like a bug. You have to hit tab
ACM many times before it finally picks up another element and starts
ACM cycling through them.

JS I can't confirm this behavior here. Tabs work as expected.

It's definitely there for me. I wonder if this is OS related again?



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Who sends out the registration info?

2002-03-28 Thread Sebastian


Hey there. :)

I installed 1.6 and my registration info is gone. Unfortunately, I
cannot find my codes anywhere, but I DO remember my password. Now, on
the website there is a password recovery possible for 3 Dollars. Since
I know that, how can I get my registration info back? I emailed The
Bat people but they don't seem to reply at all - any help here?

Thank you very much,

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Re: Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?

2002-03-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Jernej,

On Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 13:51:25 +0100, Jernej Simoni [JS]
wrote concerning 'Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?':
...
 I can't confirm this behavior here. Tabs work as expected.

Same over here on Win2k/Sp2. No problem with the tabs in the search.

But then one question arises: I can tab to a next element but how can
I select one with the keyboard? I always use the mouse for that,
because I don't know how to do it with the keyboard.

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Re[3]: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread Marcus Ohlström


On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 12:03, you wrote:

 where can i get changes for thebat beta ? or subcribe to beta
 mailling list?

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Re: 'Send to' problem in WordPerfect

2002-03-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello David,

On Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 08:56:05 -0500, David Denton [DD]
wrote concerning ''Send to' problem in WordPerfect':
...
 Any ideas about this problem.

Did you install TB! as your default MAPI handler? See Options /
Preferences / Applications / Simple MAPI.

 If, as it seem, this is a bug, how should I report it?

You can send a bug report using Help / Feedback / Send bug report.

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Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification requested on list reply headers)

2002-03-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Dave,

On Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 17:39:28 -0500, Dave Goodman [DG]
wrote concerning 'Clarification requested on list reply headers':
...
 I've seen Marck's warnings about using folder templates, along with
 comments from several others. What I have not seen is an explanation
 why this is a Bad Idea.

 Would someone educate this newbie?  :)

This is a quote from Marck a few months ago (a very good explanation
why folder templates are dangerous):

===8Start of quote==
stock lecture
I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In
150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They
are for two specific lists which don't set the reply address properly.

There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that
can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates.
There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when
you use AB templates.

The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in
templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a
new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message
gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto
without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to
excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail.

BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct
%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any
pre-existing addresses are retained.

Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to
something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh or
I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for
me.

Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this
message yet again.

It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw.
The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make
sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended.

With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind.
Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are a bit trickier.
Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you
have to click to the right of the new message button and select the
list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is*
a favourite in the address book).
/stock lecture
===8==End of quote==

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Re: Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification requested on list reply headers)

2002-03-28 Thread Ray Vermey

BATTERS,

Geez people! Aren't we paying attention anymore ???
When i cross a green light i still keep looking around me if
any traffic is there.

When you write email check and maybe double check what you are doing
if your mails are sensitive. Heck, never use email for sensitive subjects i
might say ;-))

I've seen Marck's warnings about using folder templates, along with
comments from several others. What I have not seen is an
explanation why this is a Bad Idea.

Cheers

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Re[3]: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread reclutamiento


Where can I get changes for thebat beta ?
The 1.60a

And how do I do the updating to the 1.60?

or the 1.60a must be run independentely of 1.60?



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Re[2]: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread reclutamiento

Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...
-
Where can I get that 1.60c?

And how I install? Over the 1.60? or must be installed
indenpendentely.



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Re: Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification requested on list reply headers)

2002-03-28 Thread Geoff Lane

Thursday, March 28, 2002, 12:15:54 PM, David van Zuijlekom wrote:

 This is a quote from Marck a few months ago (a very good explanation
 why folder templates are dangerous):
---

I'm guilty of this. However, I have fifty-odd folders, most of which
I've set with custom properties and templates. Is there a quick way
that I can clear these templates and properties?

TIA,

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Re[2]: 'Send to' problem in WordPerfect

2002-03-28 Thread David Denton

Hello David,

Thursday, March 28, 2002, 6:40:57 AM, you wrote:

DvZ Did you install TB! as your default MAPI handler? See Options /
DvZ Preferences / Applications / Simple MAPI.

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but to no avail. I get the same
problem which forces me to End Task to shut TB! down. Unless anyone
else has suggestions, I think I will report it as a bug. The annoying
thing is that it worked well in v. 1.53.

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Re[3]: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread Databug

Hello reclutamiento,
On the 28/03/2002, you babbled on about Is this possible 

rsn Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...
rsn -
rsn Where can I get that 1.60c?

yes I`d like to know that too. on the  site there only seem to be
download links for 1,60 and I already have that.


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Re: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello reclutamiento!

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 2:00:49 PM you wrote:

 The 1.60a

You'll only need this small fix if you use CryptoAPI.

 And how do I do the updating to the 1.60?

You already are on 1.6 ... to update to a later version: for betas and
small fixes there usually is a packed EXE which can just be copied
over the old one (make a backup first or rename the old one).

For bigger updates there is a full installer that I recommend as it
also updates other files.

 or the 1.60a must be run independentely of 1.60?

You can but you don't have to.

The current fix, BTW, is 1.60c, which was announced yesterday on
TBBETA.

As this is TBUDL and I think the fixed EXE is on the Beta FTP I won't
post the URL here. It has to do with leakage. If nobody else posts it
here - I hope so - mail me privately.




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Re: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread Gene Gough



Yes but that is almost useless when you can't restrict it to the
nicknames only or at least cause it to search that field completely
prior to any others.   If it finds a real name that matches the first
few characters of the nickname before it finds the nickname then it
stops.  And YOU CAN'T MAKE IT CONTINUE.   What is really needed is
select buttons for all the current options plus nickname and the
ability to indicate order if more than one option is selected.

Current implementation fails if I attempt to find and auto complete
the nickname KEVIN  when there is an entry

Kevinry, Joejoek   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lewis, Kevinkevin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Since nicknames are alwasy unique the ability to search on nicknames
only gives you the best chance of selecting the correct entry.
Currently because of the implementation I have had to turn off all
auto complete and that can really be a pain.




Thursday, March 28, 2002, 5:54:34 AM, you wrote:

ST Hello Databug, 

D Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

ST Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...




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Re: Is this possible

2002-03-28 Thread Gene Gough



Sorry, I should have put the comments I was responding to in front in
this case.  Here they are:

D Is it possible to have auto cmplete for a nickname too. I used to be
D able to do this on the various Amiga EMailers and I kind of miss this.

ST Try 1.60c - it should search for nicknames too...

and my respons is below.

Thursday, March 28, 2002, 9:57:34 AM, you wrote:



GG Yes but that is almost useless when you can't restrict it to the
GG nicknames only or at least cause it to search that field completely
GG prior to any others.   If it finds a real name that matches the first
GG few characters of the nickname before it finds the nickname then it
GG stops.  And YOU CAN'T MAKE IT CONTINUE.   What is really needed is
GG select buttons for all the current options plus nickname and the
GG ability to indicate order if more than one option is selected.

GG Current implementation fails if I attempt to find and auto complete
GG the nickname KEVIN  when there is an entry

GG Kevinry, Joejoek   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GG Lewis, Kevinkevin  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

GG Since nicknames are alwasy unique the ability to search on nicknames
GG only gives you the best chance of selecting the correct entry.
GG Currently because of the implementation I have had to turn off all
GG auto complete and that can really be a pain.



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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hello Shahar.

At 9:21 AM on Thursday, March 28, 2002 you wrote the
following about [Ctrl-F4 and quoted text]:


Shahar Is it possible to highlight text AND reply to the
Shahar sender with Ctrl-F4

  I don't believe so. :-(

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Re: Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?

2002-03-28 Thread Sebastian


You should be able to use the SPACE bar.

Sebastian.

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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 12:33:32 PM
Subject: Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?

Hello Jernej,

On Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 13:51:25 +0100, Jernej Simoni [JS]
wrote concerning 'Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?':
...
 I can't confirm this behavior here. Tabs work as expected.

Same over here on Win2k/Sp2. No problem with the tabs in the search.

But then one question arises: I can tab to a next element but how can
I select one with the keyboard? I always use the mouse for that,
because I don't know how to do it with the keyboard.

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BUG! Forwarding closes BAT!

2002-03-28 Thread Sebastian


Hey there.

Whenever I try to FORWARD a mail to a certain recipient, and I just
type the first LETTER of his name, BAT IMMEDIATELY closes!!!

What is this? I am using 1.6, 1.53 NEVER made had that problem!

Please help me out here,

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Re: Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?

2002-03-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Sebastian,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 16:27:18 +0100, Sebastian [S] wrote
concerning 'Bug with Search Tool in 1.60?':
...
 But then one question arises: I can tab to a next element but how
 can I select one with the keyboard?

 You should be able to use the SPACE bar.

Nope that's not working over here.

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SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread Reed Byers

U, I'm sure this sort of thing gets asked a thousand times, and
I'm sorry for asking again, but...

Tonight, I will be replacing my current Win98 300-MHz machine with a
new WinXP 1.8GHz machine.  I'm currently running The Bat! 1.46c (yes,
its registered; no, I've never done an upgrade since registering).

I'd like to install the latest Bat! on the new WinXP box and somehow
transfer all of my folders, rules/filters, preferences, address books
etc. to it as painlessly as possible.

I'll have the hard drives from the old machine connected to the new
one long enough to do data transfers, but I don't plan to have both
machines running simultaneously.

Could some kind soul give me a step-by-step to do this?  How much is
possible without touching the registry?

Will it automatically register itself when I transfer the Email msg
containing my Bat! registration, or do I need to register manually? Do
I need to enter the registration code before moving all my folders
etc?

Also, what pitfalls should I be aware of?  I've been running ZoneAlarm
along with The Bat! on my Win98 machine without trouble, but I read
the new Bat! may be allergic to it?  Any help or advice would be
appreciated.  Thanks!

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Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Reed!

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 4:51:48 PM you wrote:

 Also, what pitfalls should I be aware of?  I've been running ZoneAlarm
 along with The Bat! on my Win98 machine without trouble, but I read
 the new Bat! may be allergic to it?  Any help or advice would be
 appreciated.  Thanks!

Not step-by-step, just some pitfalls.

1. I think TB!'s message base format was changed somewhere around 1.46
to 1.49. It may be a good idea to first make that upgrade to not loose
any messages.

2. Somewhere during the 1.5x series a good backup/restore was added
especially for such tasks as yours. So another point to make an upgrade
before changing machines.

If you'd use the current build you may have a lot less trouble as when
you start out with your older version. I am quite sure someone who has
already done all this will come in to help you some more. Especially
about what to do to get the new message base format before doing
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Re: BUG! Forwarding closes BAT!

2002-03-28 Thread Dierk Haasis

Hello Sebastian!

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 4:31:32 PM you wrote:

 Whenever I try to FORWARD a mail to a certain recipient, and I just
 type the first LETTER of his name, BAT IMMEDIATELY closes!!!

 What is this? I am using 1.6, 1.53 NEVER made had that problem!

Have you by any chance assigned a one stroke shortcut for closing TB!
(or any other programme, if it's system wide)?


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Re: 'Send to' problem in WordPerfect

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 9:14:50 AM, David Denton wrote:

 Odd, I get nothing at all when I 'send to mail recipient but The
 Bat! crashes when I 'send to The Bat!' from WP, but it works fine
 from within MS Explorer. As I was saying, send to The Bat! worked
 fine in v. 1.53 from within both WP and Explorer. Very mysterious.

I get an error message that mail system is not installed if I try to
send to mail, but no problem if send to TB! with wp9

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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 8:46:22 AM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

Shahar Is it possible to highlight text AND reply to the sender with
Shahar Ctrl-F4

   I don't believe so. :-(

If I understand your question, the answer is to highlite the text and
hit F4

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Re[2]: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread reclutamiento

I've been running ZoneAlarm
 along with The Bat! on my Win98 machine without trouble, but I read
 the new Bat! may be allergic to it?  Any help or advice would be
 appreciated.  Thanks!
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problem at all. In fact I do also run Mcafee simultaneously with no
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TB! 1.60c quitting on its own!

2002-03-28 Thread daveiw

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Hi all,

If  I  try typing an address in the 'to' field after 1 letter a used
address  is offered, but if I proceed to type a second letter the window
disappears and TB! closes! Is anyone else having this problem, and if so
is there any way around it?

Using TB! 1.60c (problem also existed in TB! 1.60)



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Location of Bat Betas

2002-03-28 Thread reclutamiento

http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/

But still I do not konw how to proceed, what to do and how to install.
Intalled over 1.60? or installed independentely?
No Idea what .rar means



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Re: TB! 1.60c quitting on its own!

2002-03-28 Thread reclutamiento

You seems to be using 1.60c.

Who do I installed ??

Is this the site for download
http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/

And what .rar means??

Answer is appreciated. Thanks in advanced



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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 10:35:02 AM, David van Zuijlekom wrote:

 If I understand your question, the answer is to highlite the text
 and hit F4

 Yes, but this doesn't work when you want to reply private to a member
 of a mailing list.

that actually depends on how the list is set up. I'm on some annoying
lists where the default is private reply, so it only works for that.

What is needed is a key stroke which allows one to highlite text, then
reply to all

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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 10:39:44 AM, Gene Gough wrote:

 Yes but you still don't have the ability to reply to all. That
 replies with the highlighted text quoted to the sender only.   We
 also need the ability to reply to all, etc.

I have been campaigning for some time for that, but it's been like
talking to the wall.


 Thursday, March 28, 2002, 11:22:58 AM, you wrote:

DAC If I understand your question, the answer is to highlite the text and
DAC hit F4




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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread David van Zuijlekom

Hello Dwight,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 11:26:26 -0600, Dwight A Corrin [DAC]
wrote concerning 'Ctrl-F4 and quoted text':
...
 What is needed is a key stroke which allows one to highlite text,
 then reply to all

Seconded!

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New official 1.60c

2002-03-28 Thread reclutamiento

OK. The 1.60c is official version. see this.

http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html

Thanks a lot for your support and understanding

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Re[3]: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread Dave Conroy


rsn I do run BAT 1.60 on a windows 2000 Pro with Zone Alarm and no
rsn problem at all. In fact I do also run Mcafee simultaneously with no
rsn problems wathsoever.

I am the same ... no problems with ZoneAlarm or Norton AV 2002.
 
With best wishes,

Dave 


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Importing messages - please help

2002-03-28 Thread Jon Lawrance

I'm trying to import my messages from Outlook but get the following error:

Cannot find MS Outlook components to perform import

Is this a known bug or is there something wrong with my system?

Thanks,

Jon


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Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread Shauna Scott

Hello All, 

On 28/03/2002, Michael Disabato wrote:


 Also,  after  a  while  (random time interval) TB can't connect to the
 mail server. Shutting down ZAP fixes that, as does restarting TB.

I had that problem with Zone Alarm Pro several months ago. I never did
find a solution and finally I gave up on Zone Alarm and switched to EZ
Firewall - since then, I've had no problems at all.

Best Regards
Shauna

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Shortcuts Editor and Expanding Threads

2002-03-28 Thread Satori

I recently upgraded to 1.60c. I have not been able to find an entry to
modify the shortcut to expand all the threads in a folder (the
'Ctrl-keypad*' key stroke). Although the laptop I use has a...
virtual... keypad, it is awkward to activate in order to use this
shortcut. I also thought there was a menu entry for the message list
pop up to expand all threads, though I can find no such thing.

Does anyone have an idea if this shortcut can be modified? Is there an
easier way to expand all the threads in the message list?

I appreciate your help.
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Re[4]: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread reclutamiento

Just in case.
I must said, that I do not used the BAT directly as mailer.
I do pass mails to the ADR (Advanced Direct Remailer) who is whom does
the work. The Bat only collects my emial but do sent email directly.

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Thursday, March 28, 2002, 11:18:05 AM, reclutamiento scribbled:

rsn I've been running ZoneAlarm
 along with The Bat! on my Win98 machine without trouble, but I read
 the new Bat! may be allergic to it?  Any help or advice would be
 appreciated.  Thanks!
rsn ---
rsn I do run BAT 1.60 on a windows 2000 Pro with Zone Alarm and no
rsn problem at all. In fact I do also run Mcafee simultaneously with no
rsn problems wathsoever.

I  have  noticed a large number of TCP Flag S alerts from TB, but that
was  solved  by adding my mail host to the trusted zone. However, that
is something I'm not to pleased I had to do.

Also,  after  a  while  (random time interval) TB can't connect to the
mail server. Shutting down ZAP fixes that, as does restarting TB.

Other than that, no problems.

Mike



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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Gene Gough



YES!




Thursday, March 28, 2002, 12:26:26 PM, you wrote:

DAC What is needed is a key stroke which allows one to highlite text, then
DAC reply to all




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Re: Shortcuts Editor and Expanding Threads

2002-03-28 Thread Gene Gough


Go to the shortcut editor and then click on warning.  That should
expand all the menus for you to look for the expand threads.



Thursday, March 28, 2002, 2:00:11 PM, you wrote:

S I recently upgraded to 1.60c. I have not been able to find an entry to
S modify the shortcut to expand all the threads in a folder (the
S 'Ctrl-keypad*' key stroke). Although the laptop I use has a...
S virtual... keypad, it is awkward to activate in order to use this
S shortcut. I also thought there was a menu entry for the message list
S pop up to expand all threads, though I can find no such thing.

S Does anyone have an idea if this shortcut can be modified? Is there an
S easier way to expand all the threads in the message list?

S I appreciate your help.
S Scott Franson
S [EMAIL PROTECTED]

S -
S Using The Bat! v1.60c on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
S Service Pack 2


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Re: BUG! Forwarding closes BAT!

2002-03-28 Thread Sebastian


No, no possibility there.

I can not even WRITE AN EMAIL with that account - it's my default
account. The problem only occurs with addresses that it automatically
wants to complete, for example when I type Jim -- it just dies.

What is this???

Sebastian.


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To: Sebastian - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 5:07:07 PM
Subject: BUG! Forwarding closes BAT!

Hello Sebastian!

On Thursday, March 28, 2002 at 4:31:32 PM you wrote:

 Whenever I try to FORWARD a mail to a certain recipient, and I just
 type the first LETTER of his name, BAT IMMEDIATELY closes!!!

 What is this? I am using 1.6, 1.53 NEVER made had that problem!

Have you by any chance assigned a one stroke shortcut for closing TB!
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Re: New official 1.60c

2002-03-28 Thread Jernej Simoni

Hello reclutamiento,
 
28. marec 2002, 18:41:34, you wrote:

rsn Thanks a lot for your support and understanding

*Please* don't start a new thread by replying to an old message.
Use the New message, otherwise your message appears in incorrect
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Re: Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification requested on list reply headers)

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello David,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 04:15:54 AM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification 
requested on list reply headers):

 I've seen Marck's warnings about using folder templates, along with
 comments from several others. What I have not seen is an explanation
 why this is a Bad Idea.

 Would someone educate this newbie?  :)

 This is a quote from Marck a few months ago (a very good explanation
 why folder templates are dangerous):

I still contend the problem is TB's because she forces either Folder Level
(presuming a Folder Template is in use) or Account Level Templates on
MailTo's. A MailTo: has specific instructions with reference to whom it is
addressed and in some cases what the Subject heading should be and what is
included within the Body. TB should do nothing but carry out the
instructions within that MailTo: and simply limit her influence to
providing the From: Address based on the Account used.

Folder Templates are supposed to be a feature of TB, and not something
that has the potential to cause embarrassment or even more serious
consequences. I agree with Marck that AB Level Templates has more to offer
a User, but nevertheless my suggestion is to either get rid of Folder
Templates completely, or resolve the problem by addressing the improper
handling of MailTo's.


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Re: Shortcuts Editor and Expanding Threads

2002-03-28 Thread Satori

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, The Florida Canvassing Commission 
divined that Gene Gough truly meant to say:

 Go to the shortcut editor and then click on warning.  That should
 expand all the menus for you to look for the expand threads.

I did as you suggested but I still could not find any entry to expand
threads.  Any other ideas?

Thanks,
Scott



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MS CryptoAPI settings in Options|S/MIME

2002-03-28 Thread Oleg Titov

Hello tbudl,
  as it was introdused in v1.60 the Microsoft CryptoAPI for S/MIME, I
  got a huge interest to use it, as I have 2 different types of secure
  tockens: iButton from Dallas Semiconductors (further reading from
  http://www.ibutton.com) and SchlumbergerSema's Cryptoflex 8K smart
  cards (http://www.cryptoflex.slb.com).

  CryptoAPI was the only way for me to use X.509 certificates stored
  on these secure tockens with TheBat.

  I went to Options|S/MIME, dialog box S/MIME Preferences opens,
  when I select Microsoft CryptoAPI. At this point an error box
  appears, this box is empty, in title it has S/MIME Properties, in
  the middle left red circle with white X in it.

  At the same time original S/MIME Preferences window goes
  background the main TheBat window, and changes in its appearance: I
  could see Cryptographic Sevice Provider with Default, and other
  two input fields for Encryptoion Algorithm and Signing Hash
  Algorithm, these fields are empty.

  If I press OK on alert dialog box, TheBat returns me to S/MIME
  Preferences with Internal Implementation selected.

  Some words about my steps to solve this issue:
  I have installes InternetExplorer5.5SP2 -- same behaviour
  I have installed IE6.0 -- same

  I have visited www.verisign.com's DigitalID enrollment page, I could
  see all my Cryptographic Service Providers (MS Base, MS enhanced,
  Dallas Semicond CSP, Schlumberger CSP, and 2 DSS providers). The
  Dallas CSP works fine, I could enroll. The Schlumberger CSP works
  fine, I could enroll too.

  I am not so familiar with CSP on Windows, so would very appreciate
  any suggestions which could lead me to successfull use of secure
  tockens with TheBat on Windows98.

  If you need any extra info from -- just let me know, as I am very
  interested to track down this issue.

  Regards,

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Re[2]: Reply freezes up Bat on some accounts

2002-03-28 Thread Lars Erik Bryld

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DH freezing (not always but sometimes) when used. since then I almost
DH only  use Ctrl+Enter. I have never read if the Reply-To button
DH was fixed. Seems not.

Just tried with 1.60c - same problem!

Back to 1.53t for me :o(

And  then  to  see  it's  so  uncommon a problem that I'm the only one
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Re: Reply freezes up Bat on some accounts

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 2:52:38 PM, Lars Erik Bryld wrote:

DH I  remember  that  the  Reply-To button was broken once leading
DH to freezing (not always but sometimes) when used. since then I
DH almost only  use Ctrl+Enter. I have never read if the
DH Reply-To button was fixed. Seems not.

 Just tried with 1.60c - same problem!

 Back to 1.53t for me :o(

I've never had that trouble. Admittedly, I try to always reply with
f4, but I often hit the reply button first, just out of habit, and
sometimes use it intentionally, if there are multiple parts I'll want
to quote, anyhow.

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Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread Luc

It was foretold that on 28-3-2002 @ 12:19:14 GMT-0600 (which was 19:19
where I live) Michael Disabato wrote and spread these wise comments on
SOS -- upgrading to new machine...:

MD I  have  noticed a large number of TCP Flag S alerts from TB, but that
MD was  solved  by adding my mail host to the trusted zone. However, that
MD is something I'm not to pleased I had to do.

MD Also,  after  a  while  (random time interval) TB can't connect to the
MD mail server. Shutting down ZAP fixes that, as does restarting TB.

MD Other than that, no problems.

 I had running ZAP with TB!1.53d without problems in the beginning but
 after a while i had the same connection problems. Rather then
 shutting ZAP down and restarting TB!, i installed Sygate Personal
 Firewall Pro. Works like a charm now !

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Re: Who sends out the registration info?

2002-03-28 Thread Peter Meyns

On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:33:42 +0100GMT (which was 28.03.02, 12:33 +0100GMT
where I live), Sebastian wrote this about Who sends out the registration info?:

S I installed 1.6 and my registration info is gone. Unfortunately, I
S cannot find my codes anywhere, but I DO remember my password. Now, on
S the website there is a password recovery possible for 3 Dollars. Since
S I know that, how can I get my registration info back? I emailed The
S Bat people but they don't seem to reply at all - any help here?

Hi Sebastian,

be patient. The guys at ritlabs are really busy at this time. I'm sure
your re-requesting of your registration mail will be answered sooner or
later. (You did re-request, didn't you?) In the meantime, have you tried
a search for a mail with the subject: TheBat! Registration in all of
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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Melissa Reese

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On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 12:17:06 PM PST, Nick Andriash wrote:

 Using the Fixed-Width Viewer I am having no problems with MailTo's,
 nor have I with any other Mailer I used that I can think of. There
 might be something in the RFC's that addresses your question, but
 I've never found need to look it up. ;o)

And yet...

I'm currently using TB!'s RTV, and *your* mailto, with it's upper case
M in Mailto:; is causing your mailto to not be active in my
viewer (no underline - not clickable). It's not a fixed-width vs.
proportional font issue, as I'm using a fixed width font in this RTV
anyway (Courier New). It's a difference in how TB!'s Fixed width
viewer and it's Rich Text Viewer handles mailto:s with either an
upper case or lower case M in mailto:;.

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Re: Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification requested on list reply headers)

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello William,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 12:26:53 PM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification 
requested on list reply headers):

NA  she

 She?

Absolutely! Something as refined yet temperamental as The Bat must be
given the appropriate gender. In any case, look at TB's Icon... Can't you
tell it' a Female Bat? ;o)


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Re[2]: Why folder templates are dangerous (was Re: Clarification requested on list reply headers)

2002-03-28 Thread William Moore

Hello Nick

Thank you for your email dated Thursday, March 28, 2002, 8:14:45 PM, in which you 
wrote:

NA  she

She?

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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Melissa,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 01:30:37 PM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV:

 It's a difference in how TB!'s Fixed width viewer and it's Rich Text
 Viewer handles mailto:s with either an upper case or lower case M in
 mailto:;.

Correct, and before I change my Mailto heading I want to be sure that the
problem isn't just faulty Mailto handling by TB, and in fact the RFC calls
for all lowercase letters. I'll start searching and see if I can locate
the applicable RFC. Finding the section that deals with Mailto's
specifically might well be another matter... ;o)


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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 3:38:15 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:

  before I change my Mailto heading I want to be sure that the
 problem isn't just faulty Mailto handling by TB, and in fact the RFC
 calls for all lowercase letters

Why? It if works lower everywhere, and is broken capped somewhere, why
not just change. Lots less trouble than muddling thru a pile of rfcs,
even if the pile is only a virtual one.

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Re: Shortcuts Editor and Expanding Threads

2002-03-28 Thread Gene Gough



Nope.  I didn't look for it but if it is available that is where is
should be.  Perhaps one of the more experienced users or even one of
the developers will know.




Thursday, March 28, 2002, 3:44:00 PM, you wrote:

 Go to the shortcut editor and then click on warning.  That should
 expand all the menus for you to look for the expand threads.

S I did as you suggested but I still could not find any entry to expand
S threads.  Any other ideas?




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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 3:38:15 PM, Nick Andriash wrote:

 It's a difference in how TB!'s Fixed width viewer and it's Rich
 Text Viewer handles mailto:s with either an upper case or lower
 case M in mailto:;.

 Correct

This problem also exists for http: links. In the editor, http: Http:
and HTTP all become hyperlinks when you get far enough along in typing
them, but only the ones which start lower case show up as links in the
RTV viewer.

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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Dwight,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 02:08:45 PM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV:

 Why? It if works lower everywhere, and is broken capped somewhere, why
 not just change. Lots less trouble than muddling thru a pile of rfcs,
 even if the pile is only a virtual one.

Two reasons actually. Seeing a new sentence beginning with a lower case
letter bothers me to no end, and if the fault lies with the RTV, then it
really should be resolved. No?

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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Dwight,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 02:55:14 PM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV:

 I agree with that. Even if upper case doesn't comply, it should work.
 But meanwhile, it just seemed reasonable to make the link work before
 TB! gets around to fixing the bugs.

Yes, I will most likely end up doing that, but not before contacting
RITLabs to inform them of the discrepancy.


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Re: Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Ben,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 02:50:22 PM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Mailto:s and TB!'s RTV:

 For resiliency, programs interpreting URI should treat upper case
 letters as equivalent to lower case in scheme names (e.g., allow HTTP
 as well as http).

Thanks Ben! :o)  You saved me a lot of work. I owe you.


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Re[2]: newsgroups

2002-03-28 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hi Allie,

 Not without the help of another application. Hamster is a freeware
 application that has news server support and will allow you to download
 newsgroup messages to TB! from it. For a link to Hamster, you can look
 here: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/hamster2.htm

I have downloaded Hamster, installed it, joined a couple of
newsgroups and downloaded some messages from them just fine. But I
don't see how I can now get those messages into TB!

Any hints?

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Re: Mailbag Assistant

2002-03-28 Thread Colin Turner

Hello Claude,

Tuesday, February 5, 2002, 8:43:59 PM, you wrote:

CR Bonjour tbudl,

CR   Does somebody could tell me where I will be able to find mailbag and
CR   other related mail software on the internet ?
  
Mailbag Assistant also has a Yahoo Groups mailing List:

   http://www.egroups.com/list/mailbag
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Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread Allie C Martin

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On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:05:44 +0100, Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote these
comments:
...
DH 1. I think TB!'s message base format was changed somewhere around
DH 1.46 to 1.49. It may be a good idea to first make that upgrade to
DH not loose any messages.

DH 2. Somewhere during the 1.5x series a good backup/restore was added
DH especially for such tasks as yours. So another point to make an
DH upgrade before changing machines.

I concur with these two points whole heartedly. I just migrated from
using a 400Mhz desktop running Win2k to a 1.3Ghz laptop running WinXP. I
had to do exactly what you wish to, though my running version of TB! was
more current.

I'd do the following:

a) Backup your current installation and then do an upgrade of your
current installation to the current one. Only if it's working well
should you proceed with the rest of the steps. Otherwise, restore your
old installation, and we can discuss how to transfer it to your new
system.

If you've successfully upgraded you can do the following:

a) Go to the Tools menu and select 'Backup'. Tick all the items there,
select 'Standard' backup and hit the 'browse' to indicate where you wish
the backup file to be placed and the name you wish to give it. Now run
the backup.

b) On the new machine, install TB! v1.60c. You may be asked if you wish
to restore a from a backup during this installation (new feature that I
haven't personally seen in action). If so, then give it the backup file
to work with and you're done.

If not, not to worry. Do what I had to do. :-) Just continue with the
installation, create an account as instructed (and which you'll delete
after restoring your installation). When you're finished with that part
go to the tools menu and select 'restore'. Add your backup file and tick
all the items at the bottom and go.

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Re[2]: Who sends out the registration info?

2002-03-28 Thread Roberto Machorro

Try creating (and using) a common folder for all your registrations
(use menu option: Folder + New Common Folder...).

That makes all things easier to find when re-installing programs (big
shareware believer/user/developer here ;).


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Thursday, March 28, 2002, 1:26:41 PM, you wrote:
PM On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:33:42 +0100GMT (which was 28.03.02, 12:33 +0100GMT
PM where I live), Sebastian wrote this about Who sends out the registration info?:

S I installed 1.6 and my registration info is gone. Unfortunately, I
S cannot find my codes anywhere, but I DO remember my password. Now, on
S the website there is a password recovery possible for 3 Dollars. Since
S I know that, how can I get my registration info back? I emailed The
S Bat people but they don't seem to reply at all - any help here?

PM Hi Sebastian,

PM be patient. The guys at ritlabs are really busy at this time. I'm sure
PM your re-requesting of your registration mail will be answered sooner or
PM later. (You did re-request, didn't you?) In the meantime, have you tried
PM a search for a mail with the subject: TheBat! Registration in all of
PM TB!'s folders?


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Re: SOS -- upgrading to new machine...

2002-03-28 Thread Allie C Martin

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In a message dated, Thu, 28 Mar 2002 13:18:05 -0400, Reclutamiento [R]
wrote:
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R I do run BAT 1.60 on a windows 2000 Pro with Zone Alarm and no
R problem at all. In fact I do also run Mcafee simultaneously with no
R problems wathsoever.

The mileage greatly varies with Win2k systems and ZoneAlarm. I don't
know what the situation is with WinXP. My only advice is that if you're
running ZoneAlarm with Win2k or XP and you're having connection problems
with TB! or non-specific internet connection problems cured by a reboot
or closing and restarting TB!, get rid of ZoneAlarm. It's the culprit.

I've seen so many Win2k users have problems with ZoneAlarm that I
wouldn't advise that it be used with Win2k. I wouldn't try it with XP
either.

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Re[2]: Edit shortcuts

2002-03-28 Thread Aku

Sorry maybe I missed something...
I have looked and expanded the tree of edit shortcuts several times
but cant find Queue in outbox
Could you tell me in what tree it is?

And what is Warnings ?
_


G You can, I did.  I set mine to F5 as it was in PMMAIL.




G Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 1:28:53 PM, you wrote:

A Why I cant edit shortcut for Queue in Outbox (Shift+F2)?



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Re: newsgroups

2002-03-28 Thread John Phillips



Hello Miguel
You wrote  On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, at 00:41:01 [GMT +0100] (10:41 Friday where I live):-

 I have downloaded Hamster, installed it, joined a couple of
 newsgroups and downloaded some messages from them just fine. But I
 don't see how I can now get those messages into TB!


You can't.  Bat! is not a newsreader.  Mail only.

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Re[2]: Mailbag Assistant

2002-03-28 Thread Colin Turner

Hello Colin,

Oops   -   I appear to have a problem with a filter causing a duplicate posting.
Apologies for the copies, I will attempt to trace the cause...

(hopefully it's not something simple to make me look REALLY dumb ;-})



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Re[2]: newsgroups

2002-03-28 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello John,

 You can't.  Bat! is not a newsreader.  Mail only.

I know, of course. But apparently Allie said it was possible with the
help of Hamster and I wanted to try it.

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Re: Who sends out the registration info?

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 6:46:48 PM, Roberto Machorro wrote:

 Try creating (and using) a common folder for all your registrations
 (use menu option: Folder + New Common Folder...).

I like your suggestion, but I don't like your reply template. Putting
the quoted message below the signature delimiter makes it very hard to
read in the rtv with the small light grey font. It also would make it
very difficult if one wanted to provide context more than one layer
away since it all gets cut off when replying.

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Re: Print in main window loses focus

2002-03-28 Thread Gene Gough



I knew I wasn't completely crazy.  That happened to me today and I
couldn't figure out what happened.  Had to close and re-open.




Thursday, March 28, 2002, 8:42:07 PM, Vincent wrote:

VDE Hi Co-Batties,

VDE as in every version since 1.3x the error persists:

VDE - Go to the pane which contains Subject
VDE - Press Ctrl+P for printing a message
VDE - Move Arrow up or down

VDE Result: The focus vanishes and cannot be reinitialized ... very
VDE annoying. Maybe in 1.60d ... ;-)))




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Re: newsgroups

2002-03-28 Thread Allie C Martin

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@ 02:34:59 +0100 [ Fri, 29 Mar 2002], Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote these
words of wisdom:
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 You can't.  Bat! is not a newsreader.  Mail only.

MAU I know, of course. But apparently Allie said it was possible with
MAU the help of Hamster and I wanted to try it.

Apparently there are server applications that can convert news messages
to e-mail format so that they may be downloaded to an e-mail client.
I've never done this before but someone had posted that this was
possible with Hamster.

There's another one that can do this but it's expensive payware. I can't
remember the name of it.

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Can't minimize TB 1.60

2002-03-28 Thread Geoff Lane

Using The Bat! v1.60 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6

One of my users is running TB! 1.60 on Win98 (original edition). I've
just upgraded her OS, installing IE6 and all critical updates to date.

Her copy of TB! launches from a shortcut in her Startup program group,
set to open TB! minimized, but TB! starts in what appears to be a
normal window. However, the minimize button doesn't work and you can't
minimize TB! as launched. If I right-click the Taskbar button,
Minimize is greyed out, leaving Exit and Restore available. If I
choose Restore, nothing appears to happen to the TB! window, but I can
now minimize it. FWIW, I don't get this problem if the Startup
shortcut is set to open TB! in a normal window (and, for now, that's
how I've left it set).

Has anyone else noticed this issue? If so, is there a fix?

FWIW, I'm not sure whether this problem started on upgrading to TB!
1.60 or on installing the OS updates. However, the problem did not
exist with 1.53d.

TIA,

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Threads Expanded

2002-03-28 Thread Ron Secord

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Hi TBUDL,

I have seen on other mailers an option where you can view threads
expanded and it will keep them expanded all the time, unless you
manually compress them. Is this possible in TB?

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Re: newsgroups

2002-03-28 Thread John Phillips



Hello Allie
You wrote  On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, at 21:35:21 [GMT -0500] (13:35 Friday where I live):-

 There's another one that can do this but it's expensive payware. I can't
 remember the name of it.

Becky has a news plug in, but it is a little messy.

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Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Dave in Phoenix

DAC If I understand your question, the answer is to highlite the text
and hit F4

I am still confused by this.  All I get is a blank reply screen when I
highlight text and use F4 using latest 1.60c Bat and WinXP.  This is the
only feature I really miss (being able to highlight and reply and have
only highlighted text as quoted text)  Ctrl-F4 doesn't do it either.

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Re: Shortcuts Editor and Expanding Threads

2002-03-28 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz

GG I didn't look for it but if it is available that is where is
GG should be.  Perhaps one of the more experienced users or even one of
GG the developers will know.

I asked them: Command that are not available through the menu (and this is
the case for Control-* and Control-+) can *not* be redefined.


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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Dave,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 09:39:59 PM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Ctrl-F4 and quoted text:

 I am still confused by this.  All I get is a blank reply screen when I
 highlight text and use F4 using latest 1.60c Bat and WinXP.  This is the
 only feature I really miss (being able to highlight and reply and have
 only highlighted text as quoted text)  Ctrl-F4 doesn't do it either.

Take a look under View/Edit Shortcuts... then tick the [] Warning box.
That will open up the tree. Now look for:

Main Menu/Message/Specials/Reply Quoting selected text.

What key combination do you show for that? On mine it's F4 and always has
been.


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Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Dave in Phoenix

 Main Menu/Message/Specials/Reply Quoting selected text. What key
 combination do you show for that? On mine it's F4 and always has been.
 Nick

Yep it shows F4...but all I get is a blank screen with my Signature when
I highlight with mouse and then F4. I pasted above from little review
window.

When I edited my reply template could I have deleted something needed
for F4 to work? I have it only showing my signature.

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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 11:39:59 PM, Dave in Phoenix wrote:

 I am still confused by this.  All I get is a blank reply screen when
 I highlight text and use F4 using latest 1.60c Bat and WinXP.

Problem must be in your reply template.

here is more than the pertinent part of mine:

 On %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn, %OFROMNAME wrote:
 %SINGLERE
 %WRAPPED=%QUOTES
 
 %Cursor
 
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Re: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Dave,

On Thursday, March 28, 2002, at 10:22:17 PM -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to Ctrl-F4 and quoted text:

 When I edited my reply template could I have deleted something needed
 for F4 to work? I have it only showing my signature.

That's the problem alright. You need to put in something like the
following, which is taken from my Reply Template:

Hello %OFROMFNAME,

On %ODOW, %ODATE, at %OTIMELONG -0700, you wrote
the following in regards to %OSUBJ:

%WRAPPED=%Quotes

%CURSOR

%PUT=C:\My Documents\My Signatures\Casual Signature.txt
%-
%SINGLERE



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Re[2]: Ctrl-F4 and quoted text

2002-03-28 Thread Dave in Phoenix

 On Thursday, March 28, 2002, 11:54:06 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote:
 Dwight Problem must be in your reply template.

OK.. that fixed it Thanks... the only thing I don't like is if you don't
highlight it quotes all the text.  I seldom use quoted text or just a
very small amount via highlighting since I think it is unneeded in most
cases.  What would be nice is a way to reply and no text is quoted
unless highlight some text and do F4.  I am just fussy but still like
Bat over all others I've tried!

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Re: Address book as stand alone?

2002-03-28 Thread E. Zann

Hi Peter,

PB Is there any way the address book can be opened
PB independantly of The Bat

Found it. The original version I tried long time ago still
can be found here:
ftp://ftp.midisa.pptus.rt.ru/pub/users/midisa/kartoteka/new.zip

Apparently, there was a newer version released since then:
http://www.midisa.com/eng/cgi-bin/soft/full.cgi?notebook but
unfortunately the download link is disabled due to monthly
traffic usage limitations... Maybe author could send it via
e-mail? Dunno.

Hope this helps,
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