composing richtext messages?

2002-07-18 Thread Bernd Gauweiler

I understand I can set the TB! message viewer to view richtext and HTML
messages, but I fail to find an option that allows me to compose and
send richtext (as opposed to plain text) messages.

Am I overlooking something?
Any known plans for a future release?

Since you asked: Richtext, because it allows for formatting (like HTML),
but doesn't allow for potentially dangerous active content (unlike
HTML).

TIA
Bernd
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Re: composing richtext messages?

2002-07-18 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Bernd,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:44:05 +0100 GMT (Jul 18, 12:29 my local time),
you [BG] wrote:

BG but I fail to find an option that allows me to compose and send
BG richtext (as opposed to plain text) messages.

That's because there aren't any. TB! is a plain text client.

BG Any known plans for a future release?

Rumor has it that it'll be incorporated in version 2. But I have a
sneaky feeling that majority of the people in this list, myself
included, will continue to use plain text.

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Re: Undeliverable mail to list

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Sudip,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:46:51 +0545 GMT (18/07/02, 08:01 +0700 GMT),
Sudip Pokhrel wrote:

JA I think somebody subbed to the list has a bad email
JA now, and it is bouncing... I got about 17 of them about 30 mins ago.

SP Having a same problem here. With me, the mailer deamon sends the same
SP two messages saying they could not be delivered. Interestingly,

I think every poster is getting such a message, including myself. I
usually write back to the postmaster, asking him to send bounces to
the return-path and not the From address. I copy the TBUDL moderators
in and ask them to take the member off the list until his postmaster
has figured out the RFC's. I think I'm going to write a QT for that...

As I said, the internet grows faster than people can be trained.
People with no clue become postmasters and set up their systems wrong.
Expect to see more of this. :-(

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Re: composing richtext messages?

2002-07-18 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Bernd,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 7:44:05 AM, you [BG] wrote:

BG Since you asked: Richtext, because it allows for formatting (like HTML),
BG but doesn't allow for potentially dangerous active content (unlike
BG HTML).

I have always felt that Richtext email should be more popular but
alas, for most people its either plain text or HTML.

Suggestion:  Perhaps the richtext viewer could auto underline words
like _this_ or auto-bold words like *this* ?  Just a thought.

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Re: Undeliverable mail to list

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 8:57:29 AM you [TF] wrote (at least in
part):

TF asking him to send bounces to the return-path and not the From
TF address.

In fact the final 'I can't deliver the mail' serv did sent it to
'Return-Path'. Have a look at the attached original messages. Look
into their source.
Some intermediate MTA added a second Return-Path above the original
one :-

TF People with no clue become postmasters and set up their systems wrong.

Nevertheless true :-(
What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV! ... *without
further comment*

TF Expect to see more of this. :-(

ACK. And no filter in the world will catch the result of their
criminal lack of knowledge :-/
I'd vote for a new X-Header in bounces:

X-I-am-a-stupid-postmaster-without-knowledge-about-what-I-am-doing: Yes

*Going to disemploy because it seems everybody can do my job.
 Not better but cheaper.*
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The bat is very slow to close

2002-07-18 Thread Pietro Migliaccio

Hello tbudl,

  especially when you send a mail and then close the program, perhaps
  the program check something on the server.

  

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Re: OT: IE hyperlink settings

2002-07-18 Thread Clive Taylor

18 July 2002, 01:05, you wrote:

ACM It would seem that we've been way too lenient with requests for help
ACM that has nothing to do with TB!.

Hear, hear! For those of us on a dialup connection (and paying for it
ourselves) this is an important issue. If I wanted to listen to a
large volume of irrelevant drivel I'd go and see my mother-in-law.

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Re[2]: composing richtext messages?

2002-07-18 Thread Bernd Gauweiler

BK Suggestion:  Perhaps the richtext viewer could auto underline words
BK like _this_ or auto-bold words like *this* ?  Just a thought.

I have no interest there; I usually disable all auto-formatting
promptly. My desire was to compose and send richtext messages, so that
richtext-aware recipients can receive messages with text coloring and
formatting without the risk of HTML active content.

After all, text formatting is not only used to produce fancy 50pt
font/pink background messages, but simply is very useful in discussions
like ours (or, more to the point, the ones I have with my colleagues at
work ;-)

To the vast majority of email users, competent or not, plain text
mailing looks exactly like what it is: plain. Outdated.

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Translation

2002-07-18 Thread Pietro Migliaccio

Hello tbudl,

  is it possible translate the program manually???

  I am italian and the lang pack of ritlabs is very bugged on my
  language, I found an utility to split the file but when I try to
  modify the file by a hex editor, then the bat doesn't start.
  

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Re: Group Templates

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Michael,

@18 July 2002, 21:36 -0400 (02:36 UK time)  Michael Rudnick [MR] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

MR ... If I start a new message from the main screen and enter the
MR group handle, the standard template stays

MR Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?

It sounds like a bug although when selecting addresses templates may
not be evoked until you move the cursor from the headers to the body
editor.

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DEAD HORSE (was Well off topics)

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Lynn,

@18 July 2002, 20:00 -0700 (04:00 UK time)  Lynn Turriff [LT] in
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MO Ehrr? What is a drive refresh?

LT Sorry .. just do view/refresh in the explorer on whatever drive
LT had the stuck folder in it .. *Sometimes* that works .

moderator
This topic was pronounced dead 18 hours before this posting.

Please take it off-list or to TBOT.

For anyone unfamiliar with Dead Horse policy, DEAD means DEAD. NO
REPLIES to the list, only off-list or on TBOT.

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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Hanspeter Schaffner

Hello Adam,

 Run REGEDIT on first machine.  Export the following registry key:
 HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!

 Since you have the same Windows OSs on each machine, that should be
 simple.  Make sure your second machine can access that exported file.
 Without openning TB, on the second machine, import that registry key.
 Now while you are still running Regedit, go to that registry section,
 and advance to Working Directory.  Enter here the path to the mail
 directory on the first machine. You could cut and paste from Windows
 Explorer or whatever.  Quit Regedit.  And I think you can run TB now.

Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not Enter
the path to the mail-directory in the account options?

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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Hanspeter Schaffner

Hello Avram,

 No, what I would like to do is to be able to insure that all mail
 gets downloaded on to one drive and is read on that drive.   I
 didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
 mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
 main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop.  This way, all mail
 is in one place and readily accessible.

I'm trying to realize exactly the same thing - only that noone else
but me is using both computers

I thought I would install the Mail directory on a virtual (encrypted)
BestCrypt drive on the desktop and specify the path to it also in the
TB installation on the laptop.

If I have to check for mail from elsewhere with my laptop I copy the
BestCrypt container containing the whole mail directory on the laptop
and mount it with the same drive letter as it has in the network. So
TB should not notice any difference - I hope. :-)

Shouldn't that work?

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Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi T'Buddlers,

Any of you (and there are many) getting bounce messages from the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - sorry, but it's not our fault. It's theirs!

If anyone affected could let them know, I would appreciate it. Let's
flood them with automated responses.

Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-).

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Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator
Active: 1
Source: \\Marck\Inbox
Target: \\Marck\Trash
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MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
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You'll like this - it includes the private email addresses of two of
the registration contacts for the Vizzavi domain! Maybe they'll make
sure the servers are reconfigured ;-).

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Re: Translation

2002-07-18 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Pietro,
 


Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 10:12:22 AM you wrote:

PM   I am italian and the lang pack of ritlabs is very bugged on my
PM   language, I found an utility to split the file but when I try to
PM   modify the file by a hex editor, then the bat doesn't start.
  
You should contact Ritlabs and get on the group of translators. You
will get access to a freeware-program you can use for the translation.


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Sometimes I hate TB

2002-07-18 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello all,

Yes, TB is a great piece of software and we all know it and love it.
But sometimes I do hate TB, ... when it insists on auto-completing my
subject. It's so frustrating!!!

Yes, I know there are workarounds. But I'd just like to disable
Subject auto-complete independently of address auto-complete.

Sorry for this message, I just wanted to vent (again) my frustration.
I feel much better after writing this message. :)

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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Allie C Martin

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HS Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not
HS Enter the path to the mail-directory in the account options?

If the accounts have already been created and you wish to move them to
another location, you do it the way you're proposing. However, if you
have a fresh installation with no accounts defined and you wish the
new installation to use the same working directory as another
installation, it's best to do so from the registry. In this way the
fresh installation will think that it always used this mail directory
and will simply use it.

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Re: Sometimes I hate TB

2002-07-18 Thread Marek Mikus

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Miguel A. Urech wrote:

 Yes, TB is a great piece of software and we all know it and love it.
 But sometimes I do hate TB, ... when it insists on auto-completing my
 subject. It's so frustrating!!!
 
 Yes, I know there are workarounds. But I'd just like to disable
 Subject auto-complete independently of address auto-complete.
 
 Sorry for this message, I just wanted to vent (again) my frustration.
 I feel much better after writing this message. :)
 
install 1.61 version, it has fixed problem with listbox on WinXP. 

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Re: Sometimes I hate TB

2002-07-18 Thread Miguel A. Urech

Hello Marek,

 install 1.61 version

Oh no, thanks. According to my criteria it hasn't reached the status
of stable yet. And, aside of that and AFAIK, it doesn't have the
option to disable subject auto-complete (independently of address
auto-complete).

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Re[2]: Off topic messages

2002-07-18 Thread Gert-Jan van Krevelen

Hello world,

P But, the feedback I'm getting is that many
P people are overwhelmed by the volume of the messages. (The situation is
P compounded by the fact that the archives are difficult to use
P efficiently.) So, many people give up before they discover the beauty
P of TB.

Well I did continue using The Bat! but I was completely overwhelmed by
the large number of emails I got from this this list. I'm familiar
with lists, and 50 mails a day was normal for me, but this list
simply is huge and I agree that a newsserver would be a very good
thing. And it has 1 huge advantage: google.com :)
Even a UBB bulletinboard is probably more new-user friendly, who, just
like me, simply sign up for some extra help and tips since the helpfile, faq,
and archive are not that great (not bad either, but not great).

Sorry for the offtopic stuff but I had to completely agree with this.

G :)
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Re[2]: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-18 Thread Deborah W

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 12:19:34 PM, Marcus Ohlström wrote:

MO Not necessarily. Right click on your address group, select Properties
MO and mark Hide items if not explicitly selected. If I'm not
MO misinterpreting your intentions this should do the trick.

ButI don't want *all* of them hiddenthere are some people in
the trekker ab who also appear in my personal ab, for a different
reason. With the hide items... option selected, they too are hidden
- unless I make two entries for them  link only one entry to the
trekker group, which leaves me with the original problem of the
template macros using info from the incomplete entry.

Or am I missing something blindingly obvious to everyone else?

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi,

@18 July 2002, 10:14 +0100  Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to TB User
Discussion list:

MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-).

Here's an update to the filter that includes the message headers for
their benefit (I already heard back from one of the directors).

BeginFilter
Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator
Active: 1
Source: \\Marck\Inbox
Target: \\Marck\Trash
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 5:14 AM, you wrote:


MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-).

MDP BeginFilter
MDP Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator
MDP Active: 1
MDP Source: \\Marck\Inbox
MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash
MDP CopyFolder: none
MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg
MDP ReplyTemplate:
MDP 
OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A
MDP EndFilter

this looks like a good filter to learn on !! How about explaining each
field for me ! If I could make a template from it ( to copy ;) using XXX
and YYY for existing names


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Re: personalised mass-mailing?

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Deborah,

@18 July 2002, 11:03 +0100  Deborah W [DW] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

DW With the hide items... option selected, they too are hidden -

DW ... Or am I missing something blindingly obvious to everyone else?

Yes - they're not hidden if explicitly selected (i.e., members of
non-hidden groups). You only need one entry that is a member of any
number of groups. Members of *only* the trekker group (and no others)
are hidden. Members of multiple groups (including trekkers) are only
hidden if *all* groups they belong to Hide ... their members.

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Filtering HTML emails

2002-07-18 Thread Iain Waddell

I'm trying to filter all emails containing HTML into a spam folder but
the rule I'm using doesn't work. It appears that if the email has a
Content-Type: text/html in the headers it works but if it has a
Content-Type: multipart/alternative in the headers and the
Content-Type: text/html is in the message body it doesn't work.

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Name: html is spam
Active: 1
Source: \\CIX\Inbox
Target: \\CIX\Spam
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 50html
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Re: Translation

2002-07-18 Thread Giampaolo Bellavite

Il 18/07/2002 alle 10.12, Pietro Migliaccio ha scritto:

 Hello tbudl,

   is it possible translate the program manually???

   I am italian and the lang pack of ritlabs is very bugged on my
   language, I found an utility to split the file but when I try to
   modify the file by a hex editor, then the bat doesn't start.
  
Hi Pietro, I've already contacted Ritlabs about this, but I've never
got an answer. If you'll have, I'll be very happy to help you for a
better translation.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 6:59:34 AM.

MDP Here's an update to the filter that includes the message headers
MDP for their benefit (I already heard back from one of the
MDP directors).

MDP BeginFilter
MDP Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator
MDP Active: 1
MDP Source: \\Marck\Inbox
MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash
MDP CopyFolder: none
MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply
MDP ReplyTemplate:
MDP 
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MDP EndFilter

Where in the Filter is the ReplyTemplate: field suppost to land? The
paste seemed to work (yes, I changed \\Marck\Inbox) and the filter
created a msg and put it in my out box, but it used my Account reply
template.  Not the reply template you have above...

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Paul,

@18 July 2002, 07:01 -0400 (12:01 UK time)  Paul Cartwright [PC] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D
Pearlstone:

MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-).

MDP BeginFilter
MDP Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator
MDP Active: 1
MDP Source: \\Marck\Inbox
MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash
MDP CopyFolder: none
MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg
MDP ReplyTemplate:
MDP 
OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A
MDP EndFilter

PC this looks like a good filter to learn on !! How about explaining each
PC field for me ! If I could make a template from it ( to copy ;) using XXX
PC and YYY for existing names

Sorry - I perhaps should have explained for the unfamiliar.

Just mark from (and including) BeginFilter to EndFilter, Ctrl-C to
copy the text, open the sorting office Incoming Mail filters, click
into the list and Ctrl-V. The new filter will appear with all fields
setup for you.

This filter will mark read and move to trash any bounce messages from
Vizzavi and generate a reply to the Vizzavi postmaster, CC'd to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with this in the message body:

___
Don't tell me.

I may be the originator but I'm NOT the sender.

Please configure your server to send NDRs to the right address and
STOP SENDING UCE TO THIS INNOCENT WEB TRAVELLER.

- 8---
%QUOTESTYLE=NONE
%HEADERS
%TEXT
¯¯¯
The Vizzavi people don't like it but... hey, neither do we :-).

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Re[2]: Color Groups in INBOX message list

2002-07-18 Thread Joyce Sala

Hello Januk,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 6:53:15 AM, you wrote:


JA If you haven't used the filters before, you can get to them through:
JA  |- Account
JA|- Sorting Office/Filters

JA You'll want to set up an incoming filter, so select the incoming
JA filters and press the New button at the bottom of the left panel
I  don't _have_ Incoming filters in that dialog box. I only have two
directories:  Read  and  Replied.  The funnier part is I _do_ remember
having  seen  the  Incoming and Outgoing folders a few days ago when I
was feeling my way around... Is there anyway I can resuscitate them?

JA You'll get a filter called New Rule.  Now I'll assume you can use
JA the help file and the FAQ (see list footers) to figure out the filter
JA strings and Alternatives tabs.  Feel free to ask more specific
JA questions on this list as well.
I've set a new rule on the Reading folder, to take from the Inbox, but
it still doesn't apply it.

JA For the colour groups, you will have to have already set one up.  If
JA you haven't already done that, then go to:
That was the first thing I did, when I got into TB...;))

JA Now back to your filter, under the Actions tab, the fourth option down
JA allows you to set the colour group that you want to assign to your
JA message.
Done.

JS Can anybody explain to me what I'm doing wrong, please?
BTW,  I had set different colors for different quotes, such as in this
case:  your   mine. And yet they come in the same colors, although it
differentiates the interlocutors with the  sign. Why?

JA I hope that helped and didn't just tell you what you already knew.
No,  you  didn't;  more  than that: you've recuperated someone who was
just ready to give up on TB! because of the umpteenth problem! ;)

I hope I told you now... Do you think you can help?

Thanks in advance,

Joyce



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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread St - Musaic.Net


  Be very careful when testing out those rules, people!

  If you set the rule to send immediately upon rule satisfaction,
  you might find yourself mailbombing the recipient each time you
  bugtest the rule - thus you are spamming someone's account! :/

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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Hanspeter,
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:15:01 +0200, you wrote:

 Hello Adam,
 
  Run REGEDIT on first machine.  Export the following registry key:
  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!
 
  Since you have the same Windows OSs on each machine, that should be
  simple.  Make sure your second machine can access that exported file.
  Without openning TB, on the second machine, import that registry key.
  Now while you are still running Regedit, go to that registry section,
  and advance to Working Directory.  Enter here the path to the mail
  directory on the first machine. You could cut and paste from Windows
  Explorer or whatever.  Quit Regedit.  And I think you can run TB now.
 
 Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not Enter
 the path to the mail-directory in the account options?


I think because if you just tried to move the files via the path in the
mail-directory settings, it moves the local files to the new location,
overwriting whatever is there (I guess).  And if you already have mail files
there, say good bye to them ;)  Where as if you just change the registry entry,
it updates it nice and easily, and stops TB! from moving files about.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Tim,
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:36:28 -0400, you wrote:

 MDP ReplyTemplate:
 MDP OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];richard
 MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20m
 MDP e.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\
 MDP 20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20ND
 MDP Rs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20T
 MDP HIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8-

 Where in the Filter is the ReplyTemplate: field suppost to land? The
 paste seemed to work (yes, I changed \\Marck\Inbox) and the filter
 created a msg and put it in my out box, but it used my Account reply
 template.  Not the reply template you have above...

The line wrapping broke it I think.  You may want to copy the whole thing into
notepad, and delete the line break on the above snippet.  The ReplyTemplate:
should all be on one line, but TB! line wrapped it to several.  That may be the
problem.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Marck,

on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:14:32 +0100GMT (18.07.02, 11:14 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

MDP If anyone affected could let them know, I would appreciate it. Let's
MDP flood them with automated responses.

MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-).

Nice idea. The filter works fine. I altered the reply text a little, so it
looks more personal. :-)

MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg
 
Forgot do delete? ;-)

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Jonathan,

My MUA believes 'Sylpheed version 0.7.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.9; )' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 7:53:50 AM.

JA The line wrapping broke it I think.

Yep, the single wrap did it...

,- [ This should be on one line... ]
| ReplyTemplate:
| 
|OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A
`-

JA You may want to copy the whole thing into notepad
Any text editor but notepad! (how about SmartBat? g)

Thanks!

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Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Jonathan,
 


Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 1:53:50 PM you wrote:

JA The line wrapping broke it I think.  You may want to copy the whole thing into
JA notepad, and delete the line break on the above snippet.  The ReplyTemplate:
JA should all be on one line, but TB! line wrapped it to several.  That may be the
JA problem.

I tried that, but my ReplyTemplate didn't work after that either. It
is empty.


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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hi St,

@18 July 2002, 13:41 +0200 (12:41 UK time)  St - Musaic.Net [SMN] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Tee Bee Yoodle:

SMN   Be very careful when testing out those rules, people!

SMN   If you set the rule to send immediately upon rule satisfaction,
SMN   you might find yourself mailbombing the recipient each time you
SMN   bugtest the rule - thus you are spamming someone's account! :/

Agreed - wholeheartedly. The Filter was designed to queue in outbox
rather than immediate send.

Also, as Jonathan pointed out, the message viewer linewraps the
ReplyTemplate: line incorrectly. Make sure that is all on one line
before copying/pasting.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Britt,

@18 July 2002, 14:12 +0200 (13:12 UK time)  Britt Malka [BM] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Jonathan Angliss:

BM I tried that, but my ReplyTemplate didn't work after that either.
BM It is empty.

Let's try this again in a more accurate form:

BeginFilter
Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator
Active: 1
Source: \\Marck\Inbox
Target: \\Marck\Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 8:24:34 AM.

MDP 
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MDP By removing the space after the ReplyTemplate: title TB won't be
MDP able to wrap the line.

Interesting, I thought that what you were seeing in the message editor
is what was sent..  Did something change, or did TB always wrap on
send like that?

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Re[2]: Undeliverable mail to list

2002-07-18 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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Thursday, July 18, 2002
8:34:54 AM
RE: Undeliverable mail to list
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings Peter,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 3:38:10 AM, you wrote:

Peter What? What the hell is a RFC?

Request For Comment.

See http://www.rfc-editor.org/ . This will give you little insight.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Tim,

@18 July 2002, 08:27 -0400 (13:27 UK time)  Tim Musson [TM] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D Pearlstone:

MDP By removing the space after the ReplyTemplate: title TB won't be
MDP able to wrap the line.

TM Interesting, I thought that what you were seeing in the message editor
TM is what was sent..  Did something change, or did TB always wrap on
TM send like that?

TB wraps *on view*. If you view source of the original message, you
will see the line without wrapping. If you remove the spaces, TB has
no point at which to wrap the line so it goes long.

TB has to wrap on view for received messages - think of that Calypso
user a couple of months back who used single line paragraphs. His
messages would have been impossible to read.

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Move message store and executables?

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Good morning all

I currently have TB installed in d:\The Bat! with my default 'MAIL'
dir under it.

I am looking to put TB executable files back in the default of
c:\Program Files\The Bat! and move the default MAIL folder to e:\Mail.

What is the best way to do this?

I know I can go into an account an change where it lives, but would
rather move it using the OS, and change the default. That way new
accounts come up in the e:\Mail dir.

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Re: Undeliverable mail to list

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi DG,

@18 July 2002, 08:38 -0400 (13:38 UK time)  DG Raftery Sr. [DRS] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Peter Palmreuther:

Peter What? What the hell is a RFC?

DRS Request For Comment.

DRS See http://www.rfc-editor.org/ . This will give you little insight.

See - humour doesn't cross borders so well, does it? Peter is an
expert in such things and was mocking the so-called system
administrators at Vizzavi. Hence the quotation marks around the
original question - he was saying that *they* were asking that
question - not him.

... But I'm sure you've helped someone here who was afraid to ask
after Peter's sarcastic jibe ;-) (with which I have no problem).

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Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-18 Thread Sergey Uvarov

Dear Tim,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 2:51:14 PM, you wrote:

Before doing something make backup!

TM I know I can go into an account an change where it lives, but would
TM rather move it using the OS, and change the default. That way new
TM accounts come up in the e:\Mail dir.
Simply move TB! directory wherever you want and mail too.
After this. Change registry keys in Current User/Software/RIT/Thebat!
Keys to change:
Working directory
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 8:49:52 AM.

MDP TB wraps *on view*. If you view source of the original message,
MDP you will see the line without wrapping.

MDP TB has to wrap on view for received messages

Feeling foolish for not thinking this AM...

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Re: Undeliverable mail to list

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 2:56:31 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

MDP he was saying that *they* were asking that question

Except the fact I did not meant Postmaster@Vizzavi with that quote (at
least it ain't really a quote, more a free expression of what some people in a
technical function already asked ... maybe not exactly this words, but
similar) everything else is correct :-)

@DG: I've already downloaded the RFC-archive months ago, because I was to
 lazy going every time online and search web based if I needed the
 references :-)))

Maybe I should have written

Q: What? []
A: Arrrggghh  

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Re[2]: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-18 Thread Luigi Rosa

Hello Sergey,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 3:03:37 PM, you wrote:

SU Simply move TB! directory wherever you want and mail too.
SU After this. Change registry keys in Current User/Software/RIT/Thebat!
SU Keys to change:
SU Working directory
SU EXE Path

I think that this should be made in to a FAQ, because could tourn out very
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Re[2]: The bat is very slow to close

2002-07-18 Thread Pietro Migliaccio

Estimado Sergey,

Con fecha giovedì 18 luglio 2002, 15.05.51, escribió:

SU Dear Pietro,

SU Thursday, July 18, 2002, 9:40:59 AM, you wrote:


PM Hello tbudl,

PM   especially when you send a mail and then close the program, perhaps
PM   the program check something on the server.
SU Try to remove compress on exit if you set it.
  
I just tried, but nothing.

I believe that this problem is connected with NTLM authentication
that have been introduced in 1.60 release, in fact the problem is
present when I send email, especially very big and I immediately
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Re[2]: Undeliverable mail to list

2002-07-18 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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Thursday, July 18, 2002
9:22:52 AM
RE: Undeliverable mail to list
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings Marck,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 8:56:31 AM, you wrote:

Marck See - humour doesn't cross borders so well, does it? Peter is an
Marck expert in such things and was mocking the so-called system
Marck administrators at Vizzavi. Hence the quotation marks around the
Marck original question - he was saying that *they* were asking that
Marck question - not him.

Honestly I was debating whether to reply to Peter's post because I have
followed many of Peter's postings and was wondering why he would submit
such a query. Guess I was one cup of java short in my interpretation of
his post.

Sorry.

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Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-18 Thread Markus Gloede

Hi,

Sergey Uvarov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

 Simply move TB! directory wherever you want and mail too.
 After this. Change registry keys in Current User/Software/RIT/Thebat!
 Keys to change:
 Working directory
 EXE Path

Are all other paths stored relatively to the working directory? Tim,
could you please post if Sergey's trick worked?

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Re: Color Groups in INBOX message list

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Joyce,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 2:49:40 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

JS I  don't _have_ Incoming filters in that dialog box. I only have two
JS directories:  Read  and  Replied.

[X] You're in a common folder when opening sorting office
[X] A common folder _never_ is Inbox, only a possible target for filtering
(a.o.) incoming mails to

BTW: have you checked filtered messages _really_ don't get the Color Group
applied? With a view in menu 'Message' / 'Color Group' when focus is on a
mail that should have been a color applied to? It might be you're just not
seeing 'pink' because your color group is set up pink only for 'read'
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Re: The bat is very slow to close

2002-07-18 Thread Sergey Uvarov

Dear Pietro,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 9:40:59 AM, you wrote:


PM Hello tbudl,

PM   especially when you send a mail and then close the program, perhaps
PM   the program check something on the server.
Try to remove compress on exit if you set it.
  





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Remark

2002-07-18 Thread Sergey Uvarov

If you have more, than one account maybe you have to check
...RIT/TheBat!//user depot branch in registry.

It seems, that you don't need to change EXE Path key.
It will be automatically updated at TB! launch.
You have to update all links/shortcuts to Thebat.EXE






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Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Ochrid

Hello Marck,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 1:37:00 PM, you wrote:


MDP Just mark from (and including) BeginFilter to EndFilter, Ctrl-C to
MDP copy the text, open the sorting office Incoming Mail filters, click
MDP into the list and Ctrl-V. The new filter will appear with all fields
MDP setup for you.

So sorry to have to ask, as everybody else seems to understand
without needing more explanation, but what do you mean by *click
into the list and Ctrl-V* ?

The only possibility see is: Filters, Incoming mail, *New*, and
then several fields to be filled in. Where on earth do I click
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Thursday, July 18, 2002, Ochrid wrote...

 The only possibility see is: Filters, Incoming mail, *New*, and then
 several fields to be filled in. Where on earth do I click and paste?

Select the incoming mail folder icon, and press the CTRL and V key on
your keyboard. That will paste the filter for you.

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Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Ochrid

Hello Jonathan,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 4:25:13 PM, you wrote:


JA Select the incoming mail folder icon, and press the CTRL and V key on
JA your keyboard. That will paste the filter for you.

An so it did.
I am speechless.
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Re[2]: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Marck,
 


Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 2:24:34 PM you wrote:

MDP Let's try this again in a more accurate form:

Great! This one worked!

MDP By removing the space after the ReplyTemplate: title TB won't be
MDP able to wrap the line.

So, now I've learned that too. I didn't even know before that you
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Re[2]: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-18 Thread Terry G. Munson

Hi Marck

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Marck wrote the following on the subject Message 
submitted to 'tbudl'

 Here's what you did wrong - and I'll make it public so that everyone
 can see that it doesn't work to say Well, I use folder templates all
 the time and they always work well for me.

 stock lecture

IS there a quick (easy) way to disable the folder templates?

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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:11:04 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:

 Hello Marck,

 Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 4:56:02 AM, you wrote :


MDP We just said that in a long thread discussing the plug-in thesis. The
MDP middle man approach slows down *all* mail while plug-ins are only
MDP called when there is an attachment worth looking at.

MDP Please read the recent thread exploring these issue in depth under the
MDP topic OT: Antivirus software review.

 Sorry, new to the list.



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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-18 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 4:07:44 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

 On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:11:04 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:

Whoops! I fell asleep at the keyboard (not a comment on my interest in
the messages) and managed to send an email when my fingers slid down
the keys! I knew I had sent something, but could not find it until it
appeared here!

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Fwd: Re: GET IT RIGHT

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

Hi Members!

Well, we've had a bit of a result. People power!!!

 Please do not send any more forwards, since we fully understand the
 issue. Instruct your list members to stop the mail flood since it
 will only slow us down.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 -- 
 Richard van den Berg
 
 Vizzavi Infrastructure Development
 Tel. +31 20 491 9147

So, since he asked nicely and since he is working on it, we can
deactivate the filters bouncing their bounce messages. Well, just turn
off the Send auto reply flag.

Thanks.

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Re: Move message store and executables?

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Markus,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1)' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 9:36:08 AM.

MG Tim, could you please post if Sergey's trick worked?

Will probably try this weekend... and yes I will post my results.

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Re: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Terry,

on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 07:43:54 -0700GMT (18.07.02, 16:43 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

TGM IS there a quick (easy) way to disable the folder templates?

Yes, there is. Open folder properties -- reply -- delete the content --
press enter. :-)

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 7:37 AM, you wrote:

PC this looks like a good filter to learn on !! How about explaining each
PC field for me ! If I could make a template from it ( to copy ;) using XXX
PC and YYY for existing names

MDP Sorry - I perhaps should have explained for the unfamiliar.

MDP Just mark from (and including) BeginFilter to EndFilter, Ctrl-C to
MDP copy the text, open the sorting office Incoming Mail filters, click
MDP into the list and Ctrl-V. The new filter will appear with all fields
MDP setup for you.

   well, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!!
it actually means.
MDP Active: 1
active, what are my choices ?

MDP Source: \\
ok, the folder where the mail is

MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash
that would be the folder to put it in

MDP CopyFolder: none
uh??

MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mainset, is that the TO: ?

MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
??

MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg
ok, mark it read, send a reply and ??

MDP ReplyTemplate:
this next line is an actual reply template all by itself?

MDP 
OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A
not sure here, the diff between mainset and this line.

MDP EndFilter


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Re: Message submitted to 'tbudl'

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Peter,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 5:06:39 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PM Yes, there is. Open folder properties -- reply -- delete the content --
PM press enter. :-)

And have a blank line in template and still the dialog opened *G*

Use 'OK' button instead of enter and you're really done :-)
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Marck,

on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:14:32 +0100GMT (18.07.02, 11:14 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-).

Phew, your filter came just in time. I had two of those messages each the
last two days. But I had five this afternoon alone. So it seems to be
increasing...

Well, let's see if they wake up. Or if we'll get bounces of our complaints
with no more space in mailbox. ;-) Holiday season after all...

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Paul,

on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:57:38 -0400GMT (18.07.02, 17:57 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

PC what the H!! it actually means.

I'll try to explain how I understand it - it may help my own understanding
too. :-)

MDP Active: 1
PC active, what are my choices ?

active or manually. I only know it from the GUI, where it can be set. But
I'm not too familiar with commandline anyway... ;-)

MDP Source: \\
PC ok, the folder where the mail is

MDP Target: \\Marck\Trash
PC that would be the folder to put it in

MDP CopyFolder: none
PC uh??

No folder to copy this message to. Or do you want to copy it somewhere?
Then you can set the folder path here.

MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PC mainset, is that the TO: ?

No, it's the first window you get, when you open the filter with the GUI.

MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
PC ??

A second option. Both strings must be present to trigger the filter.

MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg
PC ok, mark it read, send a reply and ??

The last one is create a new message. It is in here by mistake and should
be deleted.

MDP ReplyTemplate:
PC this next line is an actual reply template all by itself?

MDP 
OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A

Yes, it's the complete reply template. You can view it via GUI in the
actions tab.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Paul,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 11:57:38 AM.

PCwell, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!!
PC it actually means.

I can take a stab at this one.  However, I would suggest you create
the template the way Marck did.  Go into the Filter tool, and do it
there...  That said,

,- [  ]
| BeginFilter
| Name: Vizzavi Mail Administrator   - Filter name
| Active: 1  - On or off (1/0) at a guess
| Source: \\Marck\Inbox  - Source Folder
| Target: \\Marck\Trash  - Target Folder
| CopyFolder: none   - I read this as 'don't put a
|copy of the message in another folder.
| MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   - Search string to identify msg
| MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail  - Second Search str
| Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply- What to do Mark it Read,
|   Create Reply
| 
|ReplyTemplate:%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0AYou\20are\20writing\20to\20the\20wrong\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%HEADERS\0D\0A%TEXT\0D\0A\0D\0A
|   This one is the template used to create the reply
|   The odd stuff you see is mostly formatting (look for
|   /20 - I believe that translates to a 'space' char).
|   I think there is an RFC that defines things like /20,
|   but I don't know what it is - anyone else have a
|   source for info on the translations? Web documents use
|   the codes like /20 also - problems putting a space in
|   a URL, so they translate to /20...
| EndFilter  - End of Filter g
`-

Again, I would suggest creating in TB's filter tool, the copy/paste
into an editor (SmartBat).  I am guessing you can rip out any fields
that are not set.

,- [People on this list are much happier if you use a Cut Mark]
| This is a special sequence that starts on a new line and consists of
| two dashes (minus signs) and a space followed by another new line.
| 
| NewLinedashdashspaceNewLine
| 
| This cut mark is recognized by many eMail programs and is used as a
| cut off point for signatures. That way, when someone replies to one of
| your messages, your signature (anything below the cut mark) is
| removed. Likewise, when you reply to a message from someone that
| includes cut mark, The Bat! will remove anything below the cut mark
| from the text you quote.
`- [see FAQ @ www.silverstones.com/thebat/samples.html#newmess]

PC / Paul
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Paul,

@18 July 2002, 11:57 -0400 (16:57 UK time)  Paul Cartwright [PC] in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck D
Pearlstone:

PCwell, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!!
PC it actually means.

What it means? Not much because it amounts to an LDIF dump of a filter
block. It was produced by a copy/paste/trim operation and should be
used by the same process in reverse.

MDP Active: 1
PC active, what are my choices ?

Probably 1 or 0.

MDP CopyFolder: none
PC uh??

The folder to copy a message to?

MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PC mainset, is that the TO: ?

No, it's the primary matching rule. The first two digits indicate the
location and presence flags although I don't know how.

MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
PC ??

MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg
PC ok, mark it read, send a reply and ??

The Create new message flag - set in error.

MDP ReplyTemplate:
PC this next line is an actual reply template all by itself?

Yes - when the following line is not wrapped away from it.

MDP 
OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A
PC not sure here, the diff between mainset and this line.

The actual ReplyTemplate: contents, orphaned because of window wrap
and the space following the ':'.

As I said, understanding it is unnecessary because you need only ever
use it in copy / paste operations - in and out.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Paul,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 5:57:38 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):


PC well, what I MEANT was not how to copy and paste, but what the H!! it
PC actually means.

Albeit it _really_ does not matter I could try to explain what me (and for
sure several other people) figured out by 'reverse engineering'.
Why it doesn't matter? Simply because nobody should create or edit filters
in this format. It's just an 'easy to exchange existing filters' format,
for situation like this or similar :-)
The filter can be edited much easier and errors can be avoided by using
'Sorting Office' :-)

MDP Active: 1
PC active, what are my choices ?

[0|1] ... guess what '0' means :-)

MDP CopyFolder: none
PC uh??

There's an 'Action' available: 'Create a copy of message in another folder'

MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PC mainset, is that the TO: ?

It's the 'rules' on first tab sheet. The 'Main' filter strings, in opposite
to the one in 'Alternatives'. '00' in front of the string means:
- Location 'Sender'
- Presence 'Yes'

MDP MainSet: 20Mail System Error - Returned Mail
PC ??

An additional 'MainSet: ...' ... just another rules on the main page.
- Location 'Subject'
- Presence 'Yes'

MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faAutoReply,faNewMsg
PC ok, mark it read, send a reply and ??

... and create a new message. This was accidentally activated and should
_not_ be present in that filter.

MDP ReplyTemplate:
PC this next line is an actual reply template all by itself?

Correct. With every non-alphanumeric character 'encoded' for portability
reasons.

MDP 
OI!\20Postmaster!\0D\0A%CC\3D\[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED];[EMAIL PROTECTED]\22\0D\0ADon\27t\20tell\20me.\0D\0A\0D\0AI\20may\20be\20the\20originator\20but\20I\27m\20NOT\20the\20sender.\0D\0A\0D\0APlease\20configure\20your\20server\20to\20send\20NDRs\20to\20the\20right\20address\20and\0D\0ASTOP\20SENDING\20UCE\20TO\20THIS\20INNOCENT\20WEB\20TRAVELLER.\0D\0A\0D\0A8---\0D\0A%QUOTESTYLE\3D\22NONE\22\0D\0A%QUOTES\0D\0A
PC not sure here, the diff between mainset and this line.

MainSet are the rules, this one _is_ to 'ReplyTemplate' as you already
guessed. It simply was shown one line below, because TB! broke the line
while viewing at the space after 'ReplyTemplate:'.

At least at this position a signature delimiter would be _great_.
Quite more easy to realize than writing and/or editing TB!-filter in it's
textual representation :-)

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Re: composing richtext messages?

2002-07-18 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Bernd Gauweiler,

In Reference to your Posting on Thursday, July 18 2002 at 12:48 AM PDT,

 To the vast majority of email users, competent or not, plain text
 mailing looks exactly like what it is: plain. Outdated.

I agree as well... it would be nice to use bolded text, or underline, or
colour a certain word, or even change the point size of a word... all
without having to use HTML, which I abhor. It does seem strange that rich
text did catch on... and that we are forced to either stay with plain text
or go to the other extreme and use HTML.


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email on CD ROM - how?

2002-07-18 Thread ztrader

Is there a way to get TB to *easily* read archived email that is on a
CD ROM, without transferring the files off the CD? The CD would NOT
always be in the drive, and the contents of the CD might be quite
different for different archives. It would be nice if TB would not
crash or otherwise object, no matter what is on the CD.

Is there a way to do this easily? (I know I could import files to a
folder - I'm looking for an even easier way to just plug it in and
read 'em.)

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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Adam

Hello Mark,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 1:42:19 AM, you wrote:

MW Right. This is how mine is setup. One machine runs TB in TCP/IP server
MW mode and the others work in workstation mode with their mail storage
MW on the server machine.

There was nothing I read in The Bat Networking that referred to
sharing.  Ok, wait now, sorta, though hard to follow.  Well, I think
it just passes from server to client, and that is it.

The basic function it was providing, it said:

'The Bat! can work either as a stand-alone program or as a replacement
for a mail (POP/SMTP) server within a local network (e.g. Windows
Workgroup, Windows NT Domain or Novell Netware) at the same time as
providing the client part. There are three network modes in which The
Bat! can function: stand-alone (TCP/IP Workstation), server (TCP/IP or
Dial-Out Server )or client (Non-TCP/IP Workstation).'

And later I read this part:

'TCP/IP or Dial-out Server: the  server
mode

It is possible that client computers in a local network have no access
to the Internet or that there are some restrictions in force that
prevent these computers from using mail transfer protocols. In order
to provide users of such machines with E-Mail exchange facilities
within the Internet and/or the corporate network, there must be a mail
(POP/SMTP) server within the workgroup or domain.'

With no connection to the Internet, there is no connection, this made
no sense to have a connection when there was none.  The whole purpose
of this particular setup seems to be encapsulated above, and therefore
very hard to fathom why to use that.

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Re: Translation

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Giampaolo,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 13:33:40 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 18:33 +0700 GMT),
Giampaolo Bellavite wrote:

   is it possible translate the program manually???

GB Hi Pietro, I've already contacted Ritlabs about this, but I've never
GB got an answer. If you'll have, I'll be very happy to help you for a
GB better translation.

Write directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Tim,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 6:26:25 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

TM This one is the template used to create the reply The odd stuff you see
TM is mostly formatting (look for /20 - I believe that translates to a
TM 'space' char).

It does.

TM I think there is an RFC that defines things like /20,

No.
There's a RFC for e.g. URLs and how to format special characters like ' '
in them ... this one defines the characters have to be 'encoded' by using
'%' plus their hexadecimal representation. So in an URL a space character
with char code '32' it would have been '%20' because '32d' equals to '0x20'
... *ah* most of us do know this string '%20'?? Yeah :-) It's the same
you must use in a 'mailto:' link when you want a space in it :-)

Now there's only one question left: why does TB! not use '%xx', but '\xx'?
Because RIT decided to do so.
'\' is an escape sequence known from several sources, like C, Perl and
other programming languages.
Maybe the component RIT uses for parsing the text to the object that
represents a filter is already capable to interpret '\xx' as 'char with the
hex code 'xx' and '\\' as 'literal \' and therefore there was no need to
manually implement a '%xx' decoding routine :-) Would make most sense of
all ideas that came to my mind to me :-)

HTH Pit
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Peter,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.61) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 1:09:05 PM.

PP Now there's only one question left: why does TB! not use '%xx',
PP but '\xx'?

I would guess this is because macro's are delimited with %...

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Re: Filtering HTML emails

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Iain,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:25:27 +0100 GMT (18/07/02, 18:25 +0700 GMT),
Iain Waddell wrote:

IW Content-Type: text/html in the headers it works but if it has a
IW Content-Type: multipart/alternative in the headers and the
IW Content-Type: text/html is in the message body it doesn't work.

I have a suspicion here. If I see it correctly, you have set it to
Presence in Anywhere. Try Presence in Kludges and Presence in
Text and see whether the latter works then. I think not.

My suspicion is that the lower headers are not being checked.

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Multiple email addresses

2002-07-18 Thread Joseph N.

It still astonishes me how TB!'s AB has only one field for email
addresses.  Yes, I know that multiple addresses can be inserted into
that field, one per line, and selected with menu commands from a
recipient field, but because it's still only *one* field, multiple
addresses cannot be imported into it.  Most of my contacts have
multiple email addresses.  Is there any way to import hundreds of
contacts with multiple email addresses without having to manually
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Re: Filtering HTML emails

2002-07-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Thursday, July 18, 2002, Thomas F wrote...

IW Content-Type: text/html in the headers it works but if it has a
IW Content-Type: multipart/alternative in the headers and the
IW Content-Type: text/html is in the message body it doesn't work.

 I have a suspicion here. If I see it correctly, you have set it to
 Presence in Anywhere. Try Presence in Kludges and Presence in
 Text and see whether the latter works then. I think not.

 My suspicion is that the lower headers are not being checked.

If I remember correctly, when the content type is set to
multipart/alternative, it is attaching a file that is an HTML file.
But when the content type is set to text/html the HTML text is just
plain text as if you had sat their and written HTML tags in your
window. The problem when you try querying for text/html in the body is
that TB!s filters stop when they reach the multipart-boundaries, and
don't scan the attachment. Take this as an example:

===8-
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: com.snowball.mail
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HTML
HEAD
TITLEHi Jonathan/TITLE
===8-

This is the headers from an email where the HTML code appears to be
written straight into the message.  As the original post said, this
would have been caught by the filter as expected.

===8-
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0-1415967510-1026920267=:49617
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-MailScanner: Found to be clean
X-UIDL: KP-!!G-N!//k!!QJ'!
===8-

That is the header for another email, with a multipart/alternative
set. That sets a boundary further down in the email (after the main
body)... which is as follows:

===8-
- --0-1415967510-1026920267=:49617
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
===8-

Now we see the text/html header appearing again.  But this header
appears in the body.  The issue being, TB! stops filtering when it
hits the boundary line (or so I've heard).  So that would be the
reason some mails are sneaking through.

Hope that made sense.

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Re: Sometimes I hate TB

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Miguel,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 11:21:22 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 16:21 +0700 GMT),
Miguel A. Urech wrote:

MAU Yes, TB is a great piece of software and we all know it and love it.
MAU But sometimes I do hate TB, ... when it insists on auto-completing my
MAU subject. It's so frustrating!!!

Sometimes it's the little things

MAU Yes, I know there are workarounds. But I'd just like to disable
MAU Subject auto-complete independently of address auto-complete.

Make a wish. I am sure many will second it.

MAU Sorry for this message, I just wanted to vent (again) my frustration.
MAU I feel much better after writing this message. :)

phew... :-)

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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Avram_Sacks



Hi, Marck.  See my comments below.   They are in capital letters (this message
only) to distinguish them from the old text, but, I am *not* shouting.



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moderator
First things first. Avram. That was an excellent example of how *Nnot*
to write a reply on this list.

Top quoting - a nono.
Too much quoting - a nono.

PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGIES.  THE RULES MAKE SENSE.  THE REASON IT HAPPENED THIS
TIME IS THAT I AM ON A NUMBER OF LISTS AND THIS IS THE ONLY ONE FOR WHICH THIS
IS A HARD RULE, AND, UNTIL RECENTLY, HADN'T USED THE LIST SO MUCH.  ALSO, WHEN I
AM AT THE OFFICE, TOP QUOTING FOR INTERNAL MAIL IS THE NORM, SO I FORGET WHEN I
AM RESPONDING TO OUTSIDE MAIL.  AFTER THIS NOTE,  I WILL CUT AND PASTE AND
INSERT QUOTES (WHICH I WILL HAVE TO DO MANUALLY--SEE BELOW)
stock lecture
You're using the Outlook standard reply format, one that I find
awful (but I'm feeling more like Canute by the day on that score). It
is called top quoting and means that you let the quotes appear at
the bottom and type your reply at the top.

AT THE OFFICE, I AM ACTUALLY USING LOTUS NOTES.  UNLIKE THE BAT, LOTUS PUTS THE
OLD MESSAGE AT THE BOTTOM AND DOES NOT PUT QUOTES, CARRETS, OR ANY OTHER
IDENTIFYING MATERIAL IN FRONT OF THE LINES OF THE OLD MESSAGE.  THUS, IF ONE
RESPONDS BY INTERSPERSING COMMENTS, AS I AM NOW DOING, UNLESS ONE WERE TO GO
THROUGH THE TEDIOUS EXERCISE OF PLACING A QUOTE MARK BEFORE EACH LINE OR CUTTING
AND PASTING (AND STILL INSERTING QUOTATION MARKS), USING CAPITAL LETTERS, AS I
AM NOW DOING, IS THE ONLY WAY TO DISTINGUISH OLD MATERIAL FROM NEW MATERIAL.  OF
COURSE, THIS ONLY WORKS ONCE AND I KNOW THAT ORDINARILY, CAPS HAVE A GRATING
EFFECT ON A FAIR NUMBER OF PEOPLE.  I COULD ALSO USE A DIFFERENT COLOR PEN.  EG,
THIS SENTENCE IS WRITTEN IN BLUE.  HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF NON-LOTUS USERS CAN
SEE THE FORMATTING CHANGE. However, if this can be seen by all users, then this
is probably the most expedient way to respond without inserting quotes or using
caps.

I have many reasons to *not* prefer the top quoting method:

[SNIP]

I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOUR POINTS, BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVE
SUGGESTIONS, IT IS A PAIN TO HAVE TO INSERT QUOTE MARKS BEFORE EACH
LINE--ALTHOUGH I DO DO IT OFTEN ENOUGH

[SNIP]

Now - to business:

AS How does one go about setting up The Bat on a home network ...

 ... you can set up BAT that it downloads the mail, but it leaves on
 the server. ...  Another alternative is you keep the mail on the
 server for 1 or 2 days.

Correct.

 what if the laptop user downloads a second time before the desktop
 user has a chance to download?

Nothing. Each user will only download once.

BUT I ONLY WANT MAIL TO BE STORED ON ONE COMPUTER...THE DESKTOP.  HARD DRIVE
REAL ESTATE ON THE LAPTOP IS MORE PRECIOUS AND  I DONT WANT TO STORE MAIL ON IT.
There is a mechanism to
ensure this. Already received messages are ignored.

EVEN IF DOWNLOADED BY A DIFFERENT COMPUTER ON THE NETWORK?
 Set both systems
to keep on server for 2 days and it will all tick along very nicely
(unless one of the systems misses a mail fetch for more than two days)

WHICH IS LIKELY. ITS MORE LIKELY THAT THE DESKTOP WILL DOWNLOAD DAILY OR EVERY
TWO DAYS.  THE LAPTOP MAY GO FOR ANYWHERE FROM 1-10 DAYS BEFORE IT'S USED TO
READ MAIL.

 I didn't ask the question, but I would also like to insure that any
 mail that is composed and sent from the laptop is also stored on the
 main (desktop) drive, rather than on the laptop. This way, all mail
 is in one place and readily accessible.

BCC it back to yourself.

BUT AGAIN, I ONLY WANT MAIL IN ONE PLACE, ON THE DESKTOP

Alternatively to the leave on server scheme:

1) Configure TB in client / server mode. This is not a very well known
   or practiced configuration but is *is* in the help file.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO A NEOPHYTE (ME) WHAT THIS MEANS?  THANKS.

2) Configure TB to use a shared path on the network as the root for
   the MAIL folder and work on the same real files.

I BELIEVE SOMEONE ELSE SUGGESTED THIS AS WELL.  WHEN I GET AROUND TO DOING THIS
IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, I THINK IT LIKELY THAT I WILL 

Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Marck,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 10:14:32 +0100 GMT (18/07/02, 16:14 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP Any of you (and there are many) getting bounce messages from the
MDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] - sorry, but it's not our fault. It's theirs!

MDP If anyone affected could let them know, I would appreciate it. Let's
MDP flood them with automated responses.

MDP Here's a filter that may help to automate the process ;-).

I just sent them back another 35 (!) bounce messages. Sorry I copied
you in, I didn't mean to mailbomb you, I was just helpless. Next time,
I will send only to the addresses you mention.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Thomas,

on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:33:47 +0700GMT (18.07.02, 18:33 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

TF Hello Marck,

TF I just sent them back another 35 (!) bounce messages. Sorry I copied
TF you in, I didn't mean to mailbomb you, I was just helpless. Next time,
TF I will send only to the addresses you mention.

Sh.. happens... *ROFLMAO*

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Re: composing richtext messages?

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Nick,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:58:51 -0700 GMT (18/07/02, 23:58 +0700 GMT),
Nick Andriash wrote:

NA I agree as well... it would be nice to use bolded text, or underline, or
NA colour a certain word, or even change the point size of a word...

I disagree. Maybe that's because when I was at school (which is many
winters ago), we learned that a good writing style includes to make
yourself understood without all this. Even without parenthesis and all
those neat little rhethoric-deficiency helpers that are available in
plain text.

I have gone to use parenthesis and even the odd *astrisks* to enhance
meanings in emails (keyword: civilisation in decline), but not in
important letters.

The 3 R's are in jeopardy anyway - read some of the submissions in
the slush pile of www.darwinawards.com and weep about people's
inability to even write coherently. What if those submitters were
allowed to use rich text?

Please, don't do it to me. If you want to enhance a word in an email,
do it by writing a context that makes me understand why, not just by
yelling it at me. Make me understand you due to your use of words,
without need to express emphasis with size or colour.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Tim,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:26:25 -0400 GMT (18/07/02, 23:26 +0700 GMT),
Tim Musson wrote:

TM |   I think there is an RFC that defines things like /20,
TM |   but I don't know what it is - anyone else have a
TM |   source for info on the translations?

It is the hexadecimal value of the space character in ASCII.

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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Hanspeter,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:53:34 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 14:53 +0700 GMT),
Hanspeter Schaffner wrote:

HS If I have to check for mail from elsewhere with my laptop I copy the
HS BestCrypt container containing the whole mail directory on the laptop
HS and mount it with the same drive letter as it has in the network. So
HS TB should not notice any difference - I hope. :-)

HS Shouldn't that work?

Yes, it should. If you want to carry the thing around with you and
mount/dismount it every time.

I used the method of leaving mail on server for 2 days and BCC'ing
myself in on outgoing messages, when I had two computers which both
needed to be kept updated. Of course, in the office I was on the LAN
and at home at broadband/flatrate, so additional downloads didn't
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Re: AVG didn't catch

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Julian,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:24:31 +0100 GMT (18/07/02, 22:24 +0700 GMT),
Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

JBL Whoops! I fell asleep at the keyboard

You must be a programmer then. As such, you should know that sleep is
a poor substitue for cafeine.

JBL and managed to send an email when my fingers slid down the keys!
JBL I knew I had sent something, but could not find it until it
JBL appeared here!

Back to serious mode, what could you have done if you had found out
which message it was?

I am asking because I once heard that they chased and killed a virus
by sending an antidote virus after it, and it went to the recipients
of that virus, deleted the virus-containing message from Outlook, and
then the antidote used the same method as the virus to propagate
itself and finally caught up with it. Sounds like an urban legend to
me, but who knows what is possible these days...

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Re: Undeliverable mail to list

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Peter,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 09:38:10 +0200 GMT (18/07/02, 14:38 +0700 GMT),
Peter Palmreuther wrote:

PP What? What the hell is a RFC? I _do_ already use NAV!

Assuming your approval, I have copied this into my cookie file, giving
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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Allie,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 04:34:34 -0500 GMT (18/07/02, 16:34 +0700 GMT),
Allie C Martin wrote:

HS Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not
HS Enter the path to the mail-directory in the account options?

ACM If the accounts have already been created and you wish to move them to
ACM another location, you do it the way you're proposing.

I have started using the backup function in TB, rather than my manual
back-up. I figure from the lists that TB's back-up function now works
fine.

However, I have never done a Restore yet. I am led to believe that you
are asked which directory you want the accounts to be restored to.
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Re[2]: Sometimes I hate TB

2002-07-18 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi Miguel,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002, 10:48:43 AM, you [MAU] wrote:

MAU Hello Marek,

 install 1.61 version

MAU Oh no, thanks. According to my criteria it hasn't reached the status
MAU of stable yet. And, aside of that and AFAIK, it doesn't have the
MAU option to disable subject auto-complete (independently of address
MAU auto-complete).


PLEASE please please please please please please please please please
please please please please please please please  please please please
please ...

.. Disable Subject autocompleting!

Please.

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Re[2]: Cannot restore in newly installed version

2002-07-18 Thread Hanspeter Schaffner

Hello

 If the mail folder is not in the default location, you'llhave   to
make  the necessary changes in

 HKey_Current_User/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Users Depot

 Only when you're finished do you start TB! on the new system. When

Thanks alot! it worked fine. I wish I would have dared sooner to do it
this way - it would have saved me at least 2 workdays.

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Re[3]: Sometimes I hate TB

2002-07-18 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Ben,
 


Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 7:53:21 PM you wrote:

BK PLEASE please please please please please please please please please
BK please please please please please please please  please please please
BK please ...

BK .. Disable Subject autocompleting!

Options - Preferences - System.

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Re: Filtering HTML emails

2002-07-18 Thread Iain Waddell

 Now we see the text/html header appearing again.  But this header
 appears in the body.  The issue being, TB! stops filtering when it
 hits the boundary line (or so I've heard).  So that would be the
 reason some mails are sneaking through.
Ah, at least I understand why it's not working even if I don't like
it. Perhaps a future release will give filters the option of searching
through multipart headers.

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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Tim,

On Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 7:14:07 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

PP Now there's only one question left: why does TB! not use '%xx',
PP but '\xx'?

TM I would guess this is because macro's are delimited with %...

Quite another idea :-) A good one too :-) Albeit it would be quite easy to
'encode' the '%' from macro insert to '%25' too ;-)

Nevertheless ... a combination of both will be the reason ... or none of
them :-) Doesn't matter, it IS a method to represent 'special' characters,
based on their hex values :-)
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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Avram_Sacks



Allie C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

07/18/2002 04:34 AM

Hanspeter Schaffner [HS] wrote:

HS Why does one have to do this registry thing? Why could one not
HS Enter the path to the mail-directory in the account options?

If the accounts have already been created and you wish to move them to
another location, you do it the way you're proposing. However, if you
have a fresh installation with no accounts defined and you wish the
new installation to use the same working directory as another
installation, it's best to do so from the registry. In this way the
fresh installation will think that it always used this mail directory
and will simply use it.


Ok.  So what happens when one  inserts the registry key on to computer B?  Is
computer B using the directory on computer A or is there an exact duplicate of
the directory on computer B?
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Re: downloading e-mail on home network to computer A using computer B

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Avram,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:32:04 -0500 GMT (19/07/02, 00:32 +0700 GMT),
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Acc only) to distinguish them from the old text, but, I am *not* shouting.

Kindly resend your message in a readable form. Thank you.

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Re: Filtering HTML emails

2002-07-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Iain,

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:31:40 +0100 GMT (19/07/02, 00:31 +0700 GMT),
Iain Waddell wrote:

 Now we see the text/html header appearing again.  But this header
 appears in the body.  The issue being, TB! stops filtering when it
 hits the boundary line (or so I've heard).  So that would be the
 reason some mails are sneaking through.

Correct. This is true not only for filtering, but also for the Search
function.

IW Ah, at least I understand why it's not working even if I don't like
IW it. Perhaps a future release will give filters the option of searching
IW through multipart headers.

That would be good, because I see it as a bug.

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importing QT??

2002-07-18 Thread Luc

 Good evening list,
   
 I have an account which has being shut down. I created another one
 and want to use the QT's belonging to the old account. Is there a way
 to allocate them all at once to the new account or do i have to cut
 and paste them individual?
 
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Re: Bounce messages from postmaster@vizzavi.nl

2002-07-18 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Thomas,

My MUA believes 'The Bat! (v1.62/Beta1) Personal' was used
to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Thursday, July 18, 2002 at 1:40:32 PM.

TF It is the hexadecimal value of the space character in ASCII.

Good to know, that will make it easier to translate (ASCII tables are
easy to find).
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Re[4]: Sometimes I hate TB

2002-07-18 Thread Ochrid

Hello Britt,

Thursday, July 18, 2002, 7:56:56 PM, you wrote:

BM  Options - Preferences - System.

Not quite: I use TB 1.61 but your option only gives me the chance
to turn off auto-completing of addresses, not of subject headings
(even though it says it will).

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Re: importing QT??

2002-07-18 Thread Peter Meyns

Hi Luc,

on Thu, 18 Jul 2002 20:03:11 +0200GMT (18.07.02, 20:03 +0200GMT here),
you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :

L  I have an account which has being shut down. I created another one
L  and want to use the QT's belonging to the old account. Is there a way
L  to allocate them all at once to the new account or do i have to cut
L  and paste them individual?
 
Individually is my guess in this case. I'd like to read if there is another
way. *s*

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