Synchronisation
I'd appreciate it if any of you experts can help me with The Bat!'s synchronisation feature. I'm pretty sure I understand the synchronisation process. It's rather inconvenient when the installations are 200 km apart, but I understand how to do it. I'm not sure what is actually included in the synchronisation. Most important is to synchronise my messages, but I'd also like to synchronise my templates and quick templates (I hate it when I use a template and find it does something I thought I'd fixed). My understanding is that templates and quick templates are in the "Account Properties" option. My worry is that the two computers I use store the mail in different places and use different SMTP servers and different check mail intervals -- can I synchronise the templates without affecting the other settings? (I suspect these are all under "Account Properties".) My second question is what happens with mail left on the server. Normally, TB! downloads mail not previously downloaded by that copy of TB!. If I synchronise, then download mail and have mail that was previously left on the server, will TB! recognise the mails that were downloaded to the copy it was synchonised to? -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronisation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim [T] wrote:' T> I'm not sure what is actually included in the synchronisation. T> Most important is to synchronise my messages, but I'd also like T> to synchronise my templates and quick templates (I hate it when I T> use a template and find it does something I thought I'd fixed). T> My understanding is that templates and quick templates are in the T> "Account Properties" option. My worry is that the two computers I T> use store the mail in different places and use different SMTP T> servers and different check mail intervals -- can I synchronise T> the templates without affecting the other settings? (I suspect T> these are all under "Account Properties".) You can't backup just the templates and the not the other account properties for synchronisation. I guess the reasoning here is that if you wish to synchronize two accounts then they are usually identical, i.e., use the same POP account and SMTP server etc. I see what you mean though. T> My second question is what happens with mail left on the server. T> Normally, TB! downloads mail not previously downloaded by that T> copy of TB!. Correct. T> If I synchronise, then download mail and have mail that was T> previously left on the server, will TB! recognise the mails that T> were downloaded to the copy it was synchonised to? Interesting question. I've never been in such a situation personally to see how that is handled. My guess though is that TB! installation being updated will still download the mail on the server. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.55 iD8DBQE9lD1CV8nrYCsHF+IRAvicAJ97wUv2vCZOZPL1idIPYyaxnkZJogCg8rZs X8XNtTfUnZ7GrJsirBCWZRk= =2F8y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems with very large folder
For reasons I won't go into, the 'Inbox' folder on one of my accounts currently has about 300,000 unread messages in it. Most of these messages I would like to get rid of, but there are some in there I would like to keep. The Bat seems to be having a lot of trouble doing anything with this folder - even just viewing it doesn't seem to work (the hard disc activity goes a bit crazy but nothing ever displays, even after I left it overnight). All of the messages I want to get rid of have the same subject, so it should be pretty simple, but nothing I try works. I managed to delete a few of them at the start by searching that folder for the specific subject, aborting the search after a few seconds, and then doing 'delete from base' on the results that were returned. But now the search feature just never returns any results and never stops, I just have to kill the program. Can anyone suggest a good course of action? -- Tim Fountain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.tfountain.co.uk/ Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with very large folder
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 13:15:12, Tim Fountain wrote: > The Bat seems to be having a lot of trouble doing anything with this > folder - even just viewing it doesn't seem to work (the hard disc > activity goes a bit crazy but nothing ever displays, even after I > left it overnight). > Can anyone suggest a good course of action? Try renaming the MESSAGES.TBI of wour Inbox folder while TB isn't running and then starting up the program again. It should then proceed to rebuild the index. HTH, Roman -- Roman Katzer, Aachen, Germany They laughed at Joan of Arc, but she went right ahead and built it. -- Gracie Allen Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Synchronisation
On Friday, 27 September 2002, Allie C Martin wrote: ACM> You can't backup just the templates and the not the other account ACM> properties for synchronisation. I knew you were going to say that. ACM> I guess the reasoning here is that if you wish to synchronize two ACM> accounts then they are usually identical, i.e., use the same POP ACM> account and SMTP server etc. POP accounts are identical, but SMTP depends on the ISP used to connect to the Internet (and so is different in this case). Path to the mailbase is also different because my computer has three separate hard disks, my mother's has only one. T>> My second question is what happens with mail left on the server. T>> Normally, TB! downloads mail not previously downloaded by that T>> copy of TB!. ACM> Correct. Correct, and what I normally want. T>> If I synchronise, then download mail and have mail that was T>> previously left on the server, will TB! recognise the mails that T>> were downloaded to the copy it was synchonised to? ACM> Interesting question. I've never been in such a situation ACM> personally to see how that is handled. My guess though is that ACM> TB! installation being updated will still download the mail on ACM> the server. I can handle that (Kill dupes in all folders). Not really "synchronisation" though. My particular situation is that I normally work on my own computer, but recently I've had to use my mother's computer. I've kept mailbases in synch with Backup and Restore, but last week my mother's computer had a major problem, and as a result I have important emails in each mailbase but not on the server. I see Synchronise as the solution, but if anyone has a better answer, I'm interested. -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems with very large folder
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, September 27, 2002, Tim Fountain wrote... > For reasons I won't go into, the 'Inbox' folder on one of my accounts > currently has about 300,000 unread messages in it. Most of these > messages I would like to get rid of, but there are some in there I > would like to keep. 300,000 UNREAD messages? wow... lol... I thought I got a lot of mail ;) You may wish to try running a purge of all folders to really delete the files that are deleted. This reduces the indexing load. If this doesn't help, move your messages.tbi file out of that folder. You'll be able to locate it under \\. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPZRlwyuD6BT4/R9zEQLsSACg7Uei64QBzj7VrwC7rHo6brJC1cwAn3V5 ob6GbxeJcHW7DoNycvi7xOQW =0Bvu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wish list item
Hello Batters, How many Emails does one receive where the subject line content is: 1. Less than clear 2. Does not fully relate to the message content 3. Is the 3rd or 4th reiteration of replies There was a facility in Outlook 2000 where the subject line could be amended. This was a useful, especially if one receives faxes from companies like Efax, where the subject line says "2 page(s) eFax from 02075874158" . it also allows you to make subject line content relevant to your purpose. Worthy of consideration for inclusion in the nexr release? -- Regards, Jim Lanyon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Lanyon [JL] wrote:' JL> Worthy of consideration for inclusion in the nexr release? I currently adjust message subjects by dragging the message to one of my Outboxes, opening the message there, changing the subject and then dragging it back to it's original folder. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9lGqOV8nrYCsHF+IRApV3AKDC2Co3wZRfDnMB/HNtrwrw4fiN0wCeOVqK O9Wy+jCa7cTtTT+cXWwbhWY= =m1fl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
Hello Jim, I added this to the list several months ago with the added wish that threads also be configurable i.e. dragging a message from one thread to another and having it inherit it's new thread's subject. I don't think anyone understood what I was talking about. On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, at 13:23:50 [GMT +0100] (which was 8:23:50 AM in NY, USA) Jim Lanyon wrote: > Hello Batters, > How many Emails does one receive where the subject line content is: > 1. Less than clear > 2. Does not fully relate to the message content > 3. Is the 3rd or 4th reiteration of replies > There was a facility in Outlook 2000 where the subject line could be amended. > This was a useful, especially if one receives faxes from companies like > Efax, where the subject line says "2 page(s) eFax from 02075874158" . it also > allows you to make subject line content relevant to your purpose. > Worthy of consideration for inclusion in the nexr release? -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.62/Beta1 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
ignore thread option
Hi, I know this has been brought up before but couldn't find a definitive answer in the archives...Marck/Allie...do you know if the powers that be are working on an "ignore thread" option for 2.0? -- Regards, Matt Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editor problem with delete & quoted text
Friday, September 27, 2002, 2:13:52 AM, Doug Weller wrote: DW> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:55:53 +0200 DW> Dierk Haasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thursday, September 26, 2002 at 5:24:44 PM you wrote: >> >> > As a safeguard it works rather well, so that you won't edit message >> > accidentally. >> >> And don't forget the Memo function. DW> Yes. But that wouldn't help me, for instance, when I get an email DW> with 5 recipes and only want to keep one. With A Nother email client DW> I'd just click on 'edit message', delete the unwanted bit, and save DW> it. I'd still know from the headers where it came from and when. I'd DW> forgotten temporarily the move to Outbox bit, which I've done, but DW> it is a bit cumbersome. I have to concur with everything Doug has said about this. I used to use LookOut before switching to TB and I really miss the ability to directly edit a received message. This comes in handy in a couple of instances, as Doug already pointed out. For example, I like to edit the first line on electronic invoices that I receive from the company where I host sites at, to indicate when and how I paid the invoice, then save it to my archive folder. Another example, if I am subscribed to a mailing list in digest format and want to save only one or two posts out of a long digest message, I could delete the other posts in the digest message and just save the ones I want to keep in my archive folder. Using the memo function works, but to me it is less intuitive and not always easy to see in the message list. Plus, not only is moving the message to the outbox and then editing it there before moving it back to an archive folder cumbersome, losing the header info is a non-starter. My hope is that RitLabs will re-consider and allow direct editing of received messages in a future version. Chris Montgomerymonty @ airtightweb.com -- Airtight Web Services http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Wish list item
Hi James, bye... mark. +- time/date: 19:06:32/27.09.2002 | web: www.shakwave.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | funny private forum @ forum.shakwave.de ++ 2600 Windows XP 1.61 - Original message was / included - Your address: James Senick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Your attachments: Your textsize: 1320 bytes Your time: Friday, September 27, 2002, 6:00:34 PM JS> Hello Jim, JS> I added this to the list several months ago with the added wish JS> that threads also be configurable i.e. dragging a message from JS> one thread to another and having it inherit it's new thread's JS> subject. I don't think anyone understood what I was talking JS> about. JS> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, at 13:23:50 [GMT +0100] (which was 8:23:50 JS> AM in NY, USA) Jim Lanyon wrote: >> Hello Batters, >> How many Emails does one receive where the subject line content is: >> 1. Less than clear >> 2. Does not fully relate to the message content >> 3. Is the 3rd or 4th reiteration of replies >> There was a facility in Outlook 2000 where the subject line could be amended. >> This was a useful, especially if one receives faxes from companies like >> Efax, where the subject line says "2 page(s) eFax from 02075874158" . it also >> allows you to make subject line content relevant to your purpose. >> Worthy of consideration for inclusion in the nexr release? - End of your original message - Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Wish list item
Hello shakwave, Friday, September 27, 2002, 10:06:34 AM, you wrote: s> Hi James, s> bye... mark. You can simply drag the Email into the outbox folder-Then double click on it and it will open to allow you to EDIT any portion of the message_ Subject line and or Body. Close and then drag back into your inbox Folder.. BOB s> +- time/date: 19:06:32/27.09.2002 s> | web: www.shakwave.de - [EMAIL PROTECTED] s> | funny private forum @ forum.shakwave.de s> ++ s> 2600 Windows XP 1.61 s> - Original message was / included - s> Your address: James Senick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> s> Your attachments: s> Your textsize: 1320 bytes s> Your time: Friday, September 27, 2002, 6:00:34 PM JS>> Hello Jim, JS>> I added this to the list several months ago with the added wish JS>> that threads also be configurable i.e. dragging a message from JS>> one thread to another and having it inherit it's new thread's JS>> subject. I don't think anyone understood what I was talking JS>> about. JS>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, at 13:23:50 [GMT +0100] (which was 8:23:50 JS>> AM in NY, USA) Jim Lanyon wrote: >>> Hello Batters, >>> How many Emails does one receive where the subject line content is: >>> 1. Less than clear >>> 2. Does not fully relate to the message content >>> 3. Is the 3rd or 4th reiteration of replies >>> There was a facility in Outlook 2000 where the subject line could be amended. >>> This was a useful, especially if one receives faxes from companies like >>> Efax, where the subject line says "2 page(s) eFax from 02075874158" . it also >>> allows you to make subject line content relevant to your purpose. >>> Worthy of consideration for inclusion in the nexr release? s> - End of your original message - s> s> Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: s> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html -- Best regards, brunsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Wish list item
Hello brunson, Friday, September 27, 2002, 6:18:27 PM, you wrote: s>> bye... mark. b> You can simply drag the Email into the outbox folder-Then double b> click on it and it will open to allow you to EDIT any portion of the b> message_ Subject line and or Body. Close and then drag back into your b> inbox Folder.. b> BOB Thanks, for the tip... Jim Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
Hello brunson, Yes, that's a nifty workaround but certainly not a solution...and Allie already suggested this. Nevertheless, you forgot to mention that during this process, you have to save the edited message which, unfortunately, adjusts the date. But hey, I could just adjust my clock settings every time I do this ... Seriously, if it is a useful feature (I feel so) there should be an added feature to cover it. Unfortunately, TB is built around too many workarounds as it is. On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, at 10:18:27 [GMT -0700] (which was 1:18:27 PM in NY, USA) brunson wrote: s>> bye... mark. > You can simply drag the Email into the outbox folder-Then double > click on it and it will open to allow you to EDIT any portion of the > message_ Subject line and or Body. Close and then drag back into your > inbox Folder.. > BOB -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.62/Beta1 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 512 MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
Another workaround is to build a forwarding template that includes the header information that you need/want and forward the message back to yourself with a new subject. I'm too lazy to do all that dragging & editting. And with a mail server running on your system, the forwarding wouldn't even touch the net. Cheers Yall \\' Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
ON Friday, September 27, 2002, 7:48:58 PM, you wrote: JS> Hello brunson, JS> Yes, that's a nifty workaround but certainly not a JS> solution...and Allie already suggested this. Nevertheless, you JS> forgot to mention that during this process, you have to save the JS> edited message which, unfortunately, adjusts the date. Hi James, It amazes me that someone who wants to edit an received email is worried about the time and date. As a last resort you could try export-edit-import. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Out the 10Base-T, through the router, down the T1, over the leased line, off the bridge, past the firewall...nothing but Net. -- sig of Tony Miller Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Wish list item
Hello Gerard, Friday, September 27, 2002, 2:24:03 PM, you wrote: G> ON Friday, September 27, 2002, 7:48:58 PM, you wrote: JS>> Hello brunson, G> It amazes me that someone who wants to edit an received email is G> worried about the time and date. G> As a last resort you could try export-edit-import. The problem is that a lot of people don't put a good subject on an email and i would love to be able to fix some of them so i can find things easier. -- Best regards, alistsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editor problem with delete & quoted text
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 11:47:03 AM, Chris Montgomery wrote: > I have to concur with everything Doug has said about this. I used to > use LookOut before switching to TB and I really miss the ability to > directly edit a received message. This comes in handy in a couple of > instances, as Doug already pointed out. For example, I like to edit > the first line on electronic invoices that I receive from the > company where I host sites at, to indicate when and how I paid the > invoice, then save it to my archive folder. Another example, if I am > subscribed to a mailing list in digest format and want to save only > one or two posts out of a long digest message, I could delete the > other posts in the digest message and just save the ones I want to > keep in my archive folder. I would like to jump in here and add my 2 cents here. I have been asking for this since I started with the bat, and recall that some think it is a bad thing to be able to edit, so no one can. The memo function is a work around at best. Another example is that I will get a list of phone messages Joe called Sam called Yolanda called etc. I would like to be able to edit the message, so that I can make notes Joe called - wants me to come for dinner Sam called - he can't make meeting tomorrow Yolanda called - got her answering machine That way, I can tell what I've accomplished, who I haven't even called back, and who wasn't reached just by looking at the original message. Dragging the message back and forth to the outbox every time I reach someone would be a colossal hassle, and the memo box doesn't keep the info in a way that it tracks. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 4:24:03 PM, Gerard wrote: > It amazes me that someone who wants to edit an received email is > worried about the time and date. Your amazement is no reason to deprive those who would use it, the ability to do it. If there was any reason which would make me consider going back to Eudora, it would be the ability to make notes in messages when I want to. (And keep as much archival type information as I wish or need to keep - such as which day's message it is in tact) -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problemes d'index !
Je tente en francais d'abors parceque je ne me sens pas capable d'expliquer tout ca tout de suite en anglais. J'utilise TB 1.61 sous Windows XP Pro. Mon PC a plante et reboote alors que TB etait en train de fermer tant et si bien qu'a la reouverture de TB, TB a mis plus de temps mais une fois ouvert j'avais perdu un tres grand nombre de messages. En fait j'ai perdu tout les messages qui se trouvaient dans les sous repertoires et ceux de certains comptes recemment crees. Les *.TBB sont tous la, intacts y compris dans les sous repertoires et les comptes recemment crees, les fichiers joints n'ont pas disparu. J'ai efface tous les *.TBI (90) mais ca n'a rien change au redemarrage de TB. J'ai reinstalle TB meme version, pas mieux. Quelqu'un a t'il une idee ? Merci ! Si un bon bilingue lit de message et peut m'aider a le traduire en anglais, ca m'arrangerait... ;-) ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
Hello Dwight, On 27 Sep 2002 16:40:11 (my local time 14:40:11), Dwight A Corrin wrote (in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > If there was any reason which would make me consider going back to > Eudora, it would be the ability to make notes in messages when I > want to. (And keep as much archival type information as I wish or > need to keep - such as which day's message it is in tact) Bat! allows you to make notes in the form of "memo". When a message is highlighted in the message list, select View / Memo Auto-view. I find the memo so useful, I made the memo visible in the message list, and assigned a fast key for memo auto view. -- Regards, Anthony A computer program will always do what you tell it to do, but rarely what you want to do. -- Murphy's Law on Computing Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
Hello Gerard, On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, at 23:24:03 [GMT +0200] (which was 5:24:03 PM in NY, USA) Gerard wrote: > Hi James, > It amazes me that someone who wants to edit an received email is > worried about the time and date. It amazes me why many don't understand the need for it. If I had to guess, I'd have to say that many who don't see the need to edit the subject lines either don't carry on discussions or they simply do not use email for anything vital. I receive a good deal of email much of which covers the same topics yet have various subject lines. More often than that, I get replies to messages from me about one topic but containing an entirely new topic. With input from many different sources at different times, date and time is essential to keep the original flow of the topic. Folders can only carry you so far. > As a last resort you could try export-edit-import. I have used this method in the past minus the import part as I was just archiving. But good call just the same. -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.62/Beta1 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Senick [JS] wrote:' JS> Yes, that's a nifty workaround but certainly not a JS> solution...and Allie already suggested this. Nevertheless, you JS> forgot to mention that during this process, you have to save the JS> edited message which, unfortunately, adjusts the date. You could create a manual filter that exports the message to a text file and create another filter that deletes the message and imports the altered message to the folder and marks it as read. You could keep a shortcut to the file to edit on your desktop. The effect at the end of all this is: You hit the shortcut to run the filter to export the message. You open the file on your desktop using the shortcut to it. Edit the subject as needed. You then go back to TB! and hit the shortcut to import the message, mark it as read and delete the original. This sounds so good that I think I'll go set this up now. :) - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9lOszV8nrYCsHF+IRAmLoAKCeS/h+jTB6FHiaAixnLWtvkjKLdACdGahu nRerUevkEA13dbiW4JpIhUo= =1DuN -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ignore thread option
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Matt Thoene [MT] wrote:' MT> I know this has been brought up before but couldn't find a MT> definitive answer in the archives...Marck/Allie...do you know if MT> the powers that be are working on an "ignore thread" option for MT> 2.0? Me? I don't know. :/ - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9lOtqV8nrYCsHF+IRAtqUAJ4yWFKMQFADqUmvVFM47HlJc0q8EwCeIxhu 1hQv6rXTPgxK3Sb5HmHIxY8= =xTJM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problemes d'index !
ROUGH TRANSLATION: -- I try in French of abors because I do not feel able to explain any English Ca immediately. I use TB 1.61 pennies Windows XP Pro. My PC has plant and reboote whereas TB was closing such an amount of and so that has TB reouverture, TB spent more time but once open I had lost a very great number of messages. In fact I lost all the messages which were in under repertoires and those of certain accounts recently crees. * the TBB all are the, intact ones including in under repertoires and them accounts recently crees, the joined files did not disappear. I have erase all them * TBI (90) but Ca does not have anything changes with the redemarrage TB I have reinstalle TB same version, not better. Does somebody have to you it a idee? Thank you! If a bilingual good reads message and can help me has to translate it into English, Ca would arrange me... (Translated by http://babelfish.altavista.com) I think you said this: Your TB crashed. Some of the emails are now gone. Are some of the folders gone? Look in HELP for "Common Problems". I'm missing some folders (and I didn't delete them). How do I get them back? With the account selected that is missing folders, simultaneously press the keys. This will force The Bat! to search for all folders and add them to the folder tree. Also see FOLDER|REFRESH. --- Je vous pense dit ceci: Votre TB s'est brisé. Certains des email sont maintenant allés. Est-ce que certaines des chemises sont allées? Regardez dans l'AIDE pour "des problèmes communs". Je manque quelques chemises (et moi ne les a pas supprimées). Comment est-ce que je les récupère? Le compte étant choisi qui manque des chemises, appuyez sur simultanément les touches de < Ctrl+Alt+Shift+L >. Ceci forcera la batte! pour rechercher toutes les chemises et les ajouter à l'arbre de chemise. Voir également le FOLDER|REFRESH. --Scott. In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Friday, September 27, 2002, 5:30:30 PM, you wrote: DD> Je tente en francais d'abors parceque je ne me sens DD> pas capable d'expliquer tout ca tout de suite en DD> anglais. DD> J'utilise TB 1.61 sous Windows XP Pro. DD> Mon PC a plante et reboote alors que TB etait en train DD> de fermer tant et si bien qu'a la reouverture de TB, DD> TB a mis plus de temps mais une fois ouvert j'avais DD> perdu un tres grand nombre de messages. DD> En fait j'ai perdu tout les messages qui se trouvaient DD> dans les sous repertoires et ceux de certains comptes DD> recemment crees. DD> Les *.TBB sont tous la, intacts y compris dans les DD> sous repertoires et les comptes recemment crees, les DD> fichiers joints n'ont pas disparu. DD> J'ai efface tous les *.TBI (90) mais ca n'a rien DD> change au redemarrage de TB. DD> J'ai reinstalle TB meme version, pas mieux. DD> Quelqu'un a t'il une idee ? DD> Merci ! DD> Si un bon bilingue lit de message et peut m'aider a le DD> traduire en anglais, ca m'arrangerait... DD> ;-) -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Allie Martin [AM] wrote:' AM> You hit the shortcut to run the filter to export the message. AM> You open the file on your desktop using the shortcut to it. Edit the AM> subject as needed. I've encapsulated these steps into one action, i.e., the filter shortcut. I hit ctrl-alt-y and the exported message appears in front of me, opened with my default text editor for editing. Here's the filter: BeginFilter Name: Export for editing Active: 1 Source: \\alliem\Inbox Target: \\alliem\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40'e' Actions: faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: C:\Software\TextPad\textpad.exe C:\tbmessedit\edit.txt ExtFile: C:\tbmessedit\edit.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49241 IsOfColour: SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter You'll need to edit the two lines 'ExtCmd' and 'ExtFile' to reflect what you need it to. ExtCmd is the external command that calls my external editor textpad. You could use NotePad instead. ExtFile is the path to the file TB! should export the message to. AM> You then go back to TB! and hit the shortcut to import the message, AM> mark it as read and delete the original. I used the TB! import command for this. Unfortunately an Account or account folder has to be defined when running this command. If you have to be editing messages in a single folder then you should be in business since you could set up the command to import the altered message to the same folder. Here's the filter to import the message. The filter is invoked using Ctrl-alt-I. BeginFilter Name: Import after editing Active: 1 Source: \\alliem\Inbox Target: \\alliem\Inbox CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40'e' Actions: faExternal,faoRunDetached,faoWaitCompletion,faoHotKey AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: NewTemplate: ExtCmd: c:\tbmessedit\import.bat ExtFile: ExtractDir: ColourGroup: AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49225 IsOfColour: SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter Again, you should alter ExtCmd to point to the bat file of your choice. The bat file is a text file containing the following single command: "C:\Software\The Bat!\thebat.exe" /IMPORTU="lists";UNIX;IN=C:\backup-cmds\edit.txt;READ lists - the target account name UNIX - denotes that the file being imported is of UNIX mailbox format. IN - denotes the location of the file to import. Read - sets the switch to mark the imported message as read. Hope this all helps. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9lPVhV8nrYCsHF+IRAnwqAKDsOLOwRJlHQ3S0SX1G81/rrvwIowCfZOmu E05179is3F80ahUXwREHGog= =FetM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
Hello Allie, On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, at 18:35:16 [GMT -0500] (which was 7:35:16 PM in NY, USA) Allie C Martin wrote: > This sounds so good that I think I'll go set this up now. :) And I'll save this message for when and if a "moving threads" option is ever available. If I had it, this is what I'd do: I'd use your shortcut and filter to edit the subject of the first message in this thread. Then after importing it back to my TBDUL folder, I'd drag the rest of the messages in this thread into a new one created by that exported/altered/imported message that started it all off. Except this time, the whole thread will be entitled "Editable Subject" instead of Wish List Item. Sure would be nice to just type over the subject though :) -- Best regards, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stamp-co.com The Bat! v.1.62/Beta1 Windows XP build 2600 AMD Athlon 1Ghz 1.0 Gb RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editor problem with delete & quoted text
Friday, 9/27/2002, 5:11 PM Hi Dwight, On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, at 16:37:50 [GMT -0500] (which was 2:37 PM where I live) you wrote about: 'Editor problem with delete & quoted text' DAC> The memo function is a work around at best. Another example is that I will DAC> get a list of phone messages When You say "memo function", are you referring to the actual memo in the header box or SmartBat (F6)? DAC> Sam called DAC> Yolanda called This is what I use SmartBat for. I have at this time three files plus the default pad which I can access by F6. One for recipes, QT's, macros, etc. Another for phone numbers, notes to myself or to my wife. A third one I use for draft type messages that I am working on, but don't want to take a chance on sending by accident. DAC> etc. I would like to be able to edit the message, so that I can make DAC> notes I don't edit incoming mail. I have to use the original for proof or verification at times. -- Your communication is greatly appreciated, Paul I am Neelix of Borg. Awful humor and bad comic relief are irrelevant. Powered by v1.62/Beta5 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Senick [JS] wrote:' JS> Sure would be nice to just type over the subject though :) 'It sure would be nice ..' never ends. :) It would sure be nice to change the subject of an entire thread, wouldn't it? :) IOW's, we have to meet the software half-way. I'm quite happy with the solution I've just mustered up. I've since created a common folder to which the imported message is saved. I then drag the altered message back to its original source folder. Of course this setup is for editing messages from different source folders across my accounts. However, if you have one folder from which you usually wish to edit these messages, it would be even less painless. - -- Allie C Martin \ TB! v1.62/Beta5 & WinXP Pro (SP1) List Moderator/ PGP Key - http://pub-key.ac-martin.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (Win32) - GPGshell v2.60 iD8DBQE9lPlhV8nrYCsHF+IRAn2RAKCjxSMUGGprcgr6KZKCIKwC2ljzMQCgvfsz wNBAZWqet4W8lwz158mSJpQ= =lMdr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
W> I'm too lazy to do all that dragging & editting. And with a mail W> server running on your system, the forwarding wouldn't even touch the W> net. and with local delivery enabled, you don't even need the local mail server -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ignore thread option
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Matt, @27-Sep-2002, 09:24 -0700 (17:24 UK time) Matt Thoene [MT] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MT> I know this has been brought up before but couldn't find a MT> definitive answer in the archives...Marck/Allie...do you know if MT> the powers that be are working on an "ignore thread" option for MT> 2.0? No idea about this one. The only "for certain" is that there's a new IMAP engine involved. The rest is open to the wish list and beta squad I'd say, once the new version sees the light of day. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQE9lQNlOeQkq5KdzaARAlMiAKCNs0eubkGY4ny/8dhi1zelT8/NtACgnsUf X8lpy8EesY9svLlQPZ061As= =G0Qz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish list item
On Friday, September 27, 2002, 5:44:31 PM, Anthony Xin Chen wrote: > Bat! allows you to make notes in the form of "memo". there are lots of work arounds. some are better than others. but the bottom line is that once the mail has been received, it belongs to the recipient, not the sender, and if s/he wants to make notes in the body of the text, or give it a more useful subject line, s/he should be able to edit it, not have to be trying to match up with a memo, or pasting things into smart bat. I'm on lots of lists where people use clients which don't thread by reference worth a damn, and I should be able to patch up threads if I need to as well. Those capabilities should exist, and one shouldn't need to be searching for work arounds, or being told that someone else thinks it's immoral to make those changes so it's a good thing you can't. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Editor problem with delete & quoted text
Hello Chris! On Friday, September 27, 2002 at 6:47:03 PM you wrote: > My hope is that RitLabs will re-consider and allow direct editing of > received messages in a future version. Can't say anything against your wish. But there is a good reason behind not being able to edit incoming mail: It is not yours. The text belongs to the sender - if you want it or not, there is an international law for it (Copyright). It's the same with hardcopies (letters you get through the post for instance), you can annotate them but not edit. Another reason is that e-mails can nowadays - at last - being used as evidence showing the flow of communication. If you edit the e-mail, perhaps even without changing the references (like date, sender, server way, well, all the included headers), e-mail as such ca no longer be used as valid evidence. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Die Trunkenheit vermehrt schön zwei schöne Dinge - Mut und Liebe. (Jean Paul) Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
