Re: Lost message
ON Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 7:14:16 AM, you wrote: SP> Couple of months ago, I came across an article that propounded about a SP> web service that allowed for a reliable way to confirm mail delivery. SP> I don't know what kind of technology is involved or what modus SP> operandi the service uses - anyone heard or know about such SP> service(s)? Hi Sudip, It probably uses the same "technology" as spammers. You send an HTML mail with a 1 bit picture located on your own server ( In the BAt you can recognize this because TB! shows a square with a red cross in HTML mode). The moment some "blond"user opens his email in Outlook the picture is requested from the website. This confirms that the email is opened for reading (which creates the confirmation) and thereby that the email address is active (very handy if your are a spammer). An other reason to like TB! ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is my position, and as always, I refuse to be compromised on matters of principle. - Noah S. "Soggy" Sweat, Jr, 1952 "Whiskey Speech" - Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
Hi Peter, On Thursday, October 10, 2002 08:49 your local time, which was Wednesday, October 9, 2002 at 23:49 my local time, Peter Palmreuther [PP] wrote; PP> A lot of that stuff visible in 'Account' / 'Properties'. PP> For example: POP3-server, SMTP-server, Name, E-Mail-Address, mail PP> check options, etc... Account templates are stored in a different file PP> (IIRC), so they should be preserved. Ok. That gives me some of the info I need. As you've probably read, I'm having to go through this with my sister (not really computer literate) over the phone, so wanted to be prepared to make it as painless a process as possible. At least the template are preserved!!! Thanks, Chris. -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton & AVG. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FastMail + TB
ON Thursday, October 10, 2002, 3:23:19 AM, you wrote: CSR> Hello Miles, CSR> Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 11:59:54 AM, you wrote: MJ>> Is anyone using FastMail? How do you like it? CSR> Very good e-mail service. I highly recommend it. Hi Craig, The thing that worries me is that the are trying to hide who they are. This is from one of the recommendations: ,--- [ ]--- | I don't know who you are...or where you are...or what motivates | you...but, you need to know how appreciative "we" all are for all your | work and dedication `- Isn't it strange that someone who use the service would write this? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Grossman's Law - Complex problems have simple, easy-to-understand, wrong answers. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
Hello Chris, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 at 10:28:12 PM you [CW] wrote (at least in part): CW> When you renamed the 'account.cfg' file, what else did you lose other CW> than the password? A lot of that stuff visible in 'Account' / 'Properties'. For example: POP3-server, SMTP-server, Name, E-Mail-Address, mail check options, etc... Account templates are stored in a different file (IIRC), so they should be preserved. Simply give it a try: take one of your accounts, rename (do NOT delete!) the 'ACCOUNT.CFG' and start The Bat!. See the differences, close The Bat!, re-rename 'ACCOUNT.CFG' and all settings are back. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v1.62/Beta4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1) Let's Further BLUR th' distinction between FANTASY and REALITY!!! Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Inbox: The Bat! won't read messages.tbb
Hello Roelof and Batmans, On Thursday, October 10, 2002 Roelof wrote: > Might be because you ran a filter that deleted all messages in the > inbox or deleted them yourself by accident. Parked messages are > ignored when you or your filters start deleting. Yes, may be But i don't remember anything like this 8-0 AAG>> But messages.tbb do contains much MORE messages... > Deleted messages stay in the messages.tbb until you compress it, > they're only marked deleted in the messages.tbi. So let's hope that > you don't compress your inbox on exit, because that would mean you'd > lose them as soon as you exit TB. (Under normal circumstances it's a > very sensible option to have activated, since your messagebase gets > real big when you never compress.) > You could try to undelete them. There are two ways to handle this. done. 3 messages got more. > Well actually I've got two more pieces of advice and since your asking > for it. ;-) > I read your replies to the messages of Alexander and Miguel and > because of those I decided to reply to your original message and not > to your reply to one of them. Your habit of top posting (or bottom [skipped, sorry] > Please don't take this advice as a personal attack, but accept it as a > well meant advice that could be profitable to you and your > correspondents. Dear Roelof, thank You for Your coolest reply! I do agree with You, that reply must be readable, and FIDO do make a culture of e-mail communications, that was lost in Inet :(( AAG>> 3AHO3A > What's that, a radio call sign? The matter is that it's not only English alphabet, it's also Russian alphabet, so somebody, who knows Russian may read Russian word "splinter" :)) Just a nick, no more :) AAG>> 2:5012/18.2 > Oh, a point under Dmitry Vodennikov? Yes, so what ? :))) You may write to me :))) > What I said about quoting styles was learned on fidonet during the > days modems were a lot slower than nowadays. Oh yes, i remember that time... bla-bla-bla ... And Of course You know that cool song of Michael Jackson about FIDO time, isn't it ? :) Regards, Your sincerely registered 3AHO3A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|2:5012/18.2> Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No receipt of registration number
Hello Susan, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 12:52:29 PM, you wrote: SW> Has anyone else experienced this situation? Suggestions would be welcome... I had to contact my dealer in Ukraine by email a few times to get my registration key. He claimed the server had automatically sent my key the very day they received the payment. But... it was not a month or more later that their emailed key actually arrived. I wrote them back to check on it, but they could not provide any explanation so far. So perhaps you can just contact your DEALER by email (if you have it available) and inquire about it. -- Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=Robert & Beata Golovniov | Lviv, Ukraine=- ~ PGP public key: 0x633F6D07 (link 1 - embedded, link 2 - attached) Fingerprint: 1A1C 29F1 2A0C 4C4E 0BDA C8EE 5A1D 9F03 633F 6D07 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=PGP%20Key&Body=Please%20send%20key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=GPG%20Key&Body=Please%20send%20key ~ Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, Gerard! Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 6:08:22 PM, you wrote: DGRS> Mark as how? With the "This message has been certified virus free by DGRS> blah, blah, blah etc."? One the freeware AVG does not do this as only DGRS> Why would you want that garbage at the end of incoming or outgoing DGRS> mail anyway. In most cases the receiver (either you or those to whom DGRS> you send an e-mail to) don't really care what the sender's system did. Would make an excellent trojan horse too. "Well, his message said it was checked for viruses!!!". IMO, it's just more useless stuff to impress the easily impressed. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply quote
Hello Adam, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:33:30 -0230 GMT (10/10/02, 01:03 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: TF>> Are you sure this was not "-- " (dash-dash-space-enter)? A> Yup, I'm sure. I suppose I can't tell if there were a space in the A> open. Could you detect a ghost space by itself? Yes, you could: mark the line with the mouse. A>>> After that, most of the text was not quoted. TF>> What do you mean by "most"? Was some of the text below still quoted? A> Nope. Always just 2 paragraphs. A> You're sharp aren't you Thomas? :-) I'm not quite sure whether you're pulling my legs... ;-) Anyway, I have no explanation or answer to your question, sorry. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. "The company made me a scapegoat, just like my three previous employers." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filters are sooooo complicated
Hi, Richard! Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:28:02 AM, you wrote: RW> Hello Thomas, RW> Ah, all my questions being gradually answered apart from why messages RW> originally went to the inbox without a CC and now don't but I will RW> amend my rules so that outgoing messages go straight to the relevant RW> folders. Thank you. If it's not a mailing list, then it doesn't really make sense, unless you have (had) some kind of configuration problem where TB! thought that the inbox folder was the Sent Mail folder. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 23:31 your local time, (Thursday, 04:16 my local time), you [DW] wrote: >> You can get AVG plug-in directly from Grisoft: >> http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe DW> Thanks, it is up and I hope running now! Nice but 'hope' is not good enough. You better make sure :) You can actually test this my doing the following: create a new text document with notepad and paste this line of text: X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H* Save the file as Eicar.txt and mail it to yourself as an attachment. AVG plug-in should catch it. For the test purpose, temporarily turn off "Check outgoing mail for virus" option from TB! menu 'Options --> Virus protection', otherwise TB! might not even allow you to send it. -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/"\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ The trouble with political jokes is they get elected ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: You've new messages in SOME folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ~John, @9-Oct-2002, 13:45 -0700 (21:45 UK time) ~John & Marjorie~ [jM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: jM> Is there a way to set a filter to mark the unimportant messages jM> as "Read" and the important ones UnRead ? ... >> Fernando, ... jM> - - - End of Joseph N.'s message - - - You're using the "top posting" reply format, one that I find awful (but I'm feeling more like Canute by the day on that score). It is called "top posting" because you let the quotes appear at the bottom and type your reply at the top. I have many reasons to prefer the "in-line quoting" method: o It is easier to follow points raised and counterpoints made when they are interspersed. With top posting you have to go from top to bottom to top again to review the context and work out what the post is about. o Following on from that, as you go through the quotes interspersing your replies and clipping the "fluff", you actually ensure that all points raised and questions asked are covered and that the quoted material is suitably trimmed. o The message format becomes a lot more conversational and thus more legible. o Rather than growing exponentially with each reply in a thread, the message size is kept reasonable and to the point. o When you top post, you deprive anyone who is replying the ability to join in with the conversation and reply to both you and the original message writer. The original message has been taken "out of the frame" and is no longer in context. o Responses have immediate context rather than being a bolt out of the blue at the top of a message making you scroll down to re-read the original. When cut marks are used for signature this task is made even harder because the quotes appear in light grey italics for users of the TB Rich Text Viewer. I know there are some instances where top-posting is necessary - particularly in dealing with a technical support department where an issue may be passed around from person to person and the entire message chain needs to be kept live. I actually have a special template I use for such occasions. At all other times, I will still champion the cause of conversational email! :-). You were partially rescued on two counts - 1) The message you quoted contained a cut mark and that resulted in the signatures being trimmed (but that's all) 2) Your own cut mark was badly formed so the quoted message did not appear in grey, italic "signature" mode. Read the help and the FAQ about properly forming a cut mark. Please modify your reply template for use with this list. This is not just a note to the addressee, but to anyone else intending to reply to posts on this list. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9pOBOOeQkq5KdzaARAhztAJ0eozxa8UexcsKtoDTHYrPVStfh0wCg2saA 0QOhfwOAkCYhsH5cdQFUhdM= =DO39 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FastMail + TB
Hello Miles, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 11:59:54 AM, you wrote: MJ> Is anyone using FastMail? How do you like it? Very good e-mail service. I highly recommend it. MJ> Is it possible to configure it so that I can write and receive MJ> messages from within TB? Yes, I'm doing so right now. You can use TB's POP3 capabilities with any account Fastmail offers POP3 service (you are limited to IMAP on some of their service accounts). You can also with the help of the program "stunnel", use SSL connections for POP3 and SMTP with Fastmail's servers. -- Best regards, Craigmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters are sooooo complicated
Hello Gerard, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 at09:42:44[GMT +0200](which was 08:42 where I live) you wrote: RW>> Then some messages started not showing up in the Inbox or the other RW>> reader and I'm now told, obviously correctly, that I have to put a RW>> rule in the Outbox redirecting my mail to the Inbox so that it can RW>> be redircted to the relevant folder. Is that correct? G> Sort of but it is not the most logical route. G> After you press the sent button a copy of the msg will be placed in the G> Sent folder "UNLESS" you have an Outgoing Mail filter that moves this G> msg some were else. Remember you can also COPY the msg leaving a copy in G> the sent folder and one in the new location. Ahh! G> I would recommend using the Outgoing Mail filter to place the msg G> directly into the appropriate folder. that's the way I've already planned to do it. G> G> When I am working with filters I usually also set a colour in the same G> filter together with the action I am trying to create. This makes it G> easy to check wether a certain filter was triggered and used ;-) G> Another good tip, thanks. -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Filters are sooooo complicated
Hello myob, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 at14:54:54[GMT +0100](which was 14:54 where I live) you wrote: MO>> Could it be your ISP automatically adding a BCC to you on every mail you MO>> send? Ask them! m> IIRC, Richard, that's what CIX/Ameol does. Yes it does but I was still getting mail in my TB inbox having sent it from TB, that's what puzzles me, and I had no rule to put it there (I think!!) -- Best regards, Richard Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Lost message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:40:16 PM RE: "Lost message" Greetings Sudip, On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 1:14:16 AM, you wrote: SP> Couple of months ago, I came across an article that propounded about a SP> web service that allowed for a reliable way to confirm mail delivery. SP> I don't know what kind of technology is involved or what modus SP> operandi the service uses - anyone heard or know about such SP> service(s)? In order to accomplish that they would have to be somehow notified of 1] the e-mail 2] the sender and 3] the receiver. If your e-mail is sent through them then I would bet they can monitor 1] content 2] the number of e-mails sent by you and 3] recipient information. Should this web site's technology be true I, personally, would stear WAY clear of such monitoring and allowing person(s) unknown to integrate their technology into my daily e-mail activities. If what I send is so important that I need to know the recipient received it then it is sent US Postal registered, receipt request, UPS or Fedex should I need track such receipt. MHO. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. A Life? Cool! Where can I download one of those from? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaTAQGGmTEg4iItaEQKbggCgrg4y6fe8P7wp9nPJgzlwMnru9U8AoKrP J8P2iF8AEyRpeGB0AGlHzC+L =FYqI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: NOD32
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 7:22:10 PM RE: "NOD32" Greetings Marck, On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 5:13:17 AM, you wrote: MDP> Why would you need that? AVG will catch trojans. Geez Marck. I use AVG Pro AND Trojan Defence Suite here. What one may miss the other may catch besides the fact that AVG does not monitor ports, backtrace on trojan port scans and a slew of other tools that TDS does. And all this behind a Linksys Router AND Sygate Personal Firewall Pro. My home network of 8 systems is well protected, hasn't been brought down since my Fidonet days and has flagged, monitored and otherwise halted in it's tracks any trojan or virus payload. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. The Queue Principle: The longer you wait in line, the greater the likelihood that you are standing in the wrong line. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaS7rmGmTEg4iItaEQLBbQCfe04w/l3VCAo920FipvbOGgIwlXwAoIQX HBQryQTOQbQA57IIRAiq6tlD =Y+sf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:53:41 PM RE: "what are bat*.tmp files?" Greetings Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 6:30:52 PM, you wrote: DW> Do I gather it doesn't actually mark either outgoing or incoming DW> email? Mark as how? With the "This message has been certified virus free by blah, blah, blah etc."? One the freeware AVG does not do this as only the Pro version does and two, The_Bat! plugin supports this feature in neither the freeware nor Pro versions. Why would you want that garbage at the end of incoming or outgoing mail anyway. In most cases the receiver (either you or those to whom you send an e-mail to) don't really care what the sender's system did. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. If at first you don't succeed, call it version 1.0. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaS0tmGmTEg4iItaEQJtogCg4Q5BlzU/NkVprnBwj+CRd/j7MvIAn1Ac aSI6eHtO7s/hpmy7dNzu4pFo =FVvK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: FastMail + TB
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 11:59 AM, you wrote: MJ> Is anyone using FastMail? How do you like it? MJ> Is it possible to configure it so that I can write and receive messages from MJ> within TB? use fastmail.fm as your POP server and your normal SMTP ( ISP ? ) server. I use Mercury for my SMTP server, so I just use localhost as my SMTP server. It works better than Yahoo or Hotmail. they have free guest accounts ( I have one) and they also have better PAY services. -- Paul Using The Bat! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:38:53 PM RE: "what are bat*.tmp files?" Greetings Avram, On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 1:48:33 PM, you wrote: Acc> Thanks, again. Your explanation this time, was much more clear. Given my Acc> setup, is there any reason (in terms of catching viruses from incoming messages) Acc> why it would be advantageous for me to move to AV software, such as AVG, or some Acc> of the others mentioned on this list that have plug-ins for The Bat? Any Acc> reason to just let well enough alone? Any AV software that is worth it's salt SHOULD, with resident scanner abilities ON, alert when you try and open an e-mail attachment that is infected. As reported within this thread, the plus side of having an e-mail plugin is to quarantine and bring the exact message to your attention. I have seen Norton AV, resident shield only, alert and disappear leaving one to weed through AV logs only to find that the infected file is specified but not the e-mail message that carried the payload. In most cases, as a network engineer of some 28+ years, I want the file AND the message flagged so I can gather all pertinent information as to the sender, ISP, what SMTP server allowed the file to pass and as much routing info as can be gleamed from the RFC-822 header info. Anyway ... I ramble. In the end to each their own. Whatever YOU feel secure doing is what plan of action you need follow. Opinions are like buttholes. Everybody has one BUT, covering your own is your most critical mission. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaSybmGmTEg4iItaEQJ4RACfSYQLo9Cg37Z2UCrCVo7NiYzcWqgAn1z2 U9+Va4orSb91t+JeF6IXuHEN =7BzW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Sudip, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 6:24:12 AM, you wrote: > Hi Doug, > On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 05:51 your local time, (10:36 my local > time), you [DW] wrote: DW>> Which of those is the AVG plugin though? Found the Nod32 one, DW>> which I also need. > You can get AVG plug-in directly from Grisoft: > http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe Thanks, it is up and I hope running now! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Gerard, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 11:02:15 PM, you wrote: > Just uncheck the Resident Shield boxes (and then click on Save > Parameters as New Default) and leave the control center (icon > on your taskbar) running. You need not have the Resident Shield > operational for the plugin to do it's job. > I know many that have two or three AV's installed with the primary AV > performing resident scan operation and the other two to either utilize > a plugin feature or have a back up AV program to check to see if the > primary missed something. That makes sense and is probably what I shall do. Do I gather it doesn't actually mark either outgoing or incoming email? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering old messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:17:02 PM RE: "Recovering old messages" Greetings Venu, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 9:50:08 AM, you wrote: V> Hello tbudl, V> While moving from Win2K to Win XP, I did not perform the elementary V> backup.Just moved the whole directory over to another partition. Is V> there any way I can recover my old messages? Without the backup you will need install The_Bat! on XP to get the proper registry pointers and keys and then move the entire The_Bat!\Mail directory over to the install then start The_Bat! and create the mail accounts utilizing the EXACT name you used in the Win2k installation (i.e. the folder names under your Mail directory). At this point you should see after you type in the account name that, as you toggle through the account information screens, that The_Bat! recognizes all the other information and message base files. What you are doing is actually recreating the accounts so all your mail and folders will appear when you finish the account creation (recreation). I hope that I have explained this properly enough to get you on your way back to your old messages. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. Windows is NOT a virus. Viruses DO something. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaSsmmGmTEg4iItaEQLBUwCg8YfBQNOTU7D9s5Xk1sMgXkRaCiYAn3/T hQ8HwNCy/dh7y5bRG7H+eXoS =b/s9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crashes through HTML mail?
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 11:22:35 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: > One of the newsletters I receive is the New York Times one. At > first I signed up to receive the HTML format which most of the > times seemed to work. I get Today's Headlines, Movie Update, Circuits, and Election Countdown. I don't have any trouble with any of them. I have no problem scrolling thru the message, or opening links. The only odd thing I have noticed is that in the INTERNATIONAL section, which in my set up is second, after the NATIONAL, the third of the three links is a larger font size, as are all following links. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.60i on Windows XP version 5,1 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:54:36 PM RE: "what are bat*.tmp files?" Greetings Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:47:10 PM, you wrote: DW> Hi, DW> Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:14:59 PM, you wrote: DW>>> >> It's not easy to find. You have to scroll down through the Updates >> listing or simply go here: >> http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=222c74fe60752605c3145686492d8df6 DW> Ok, it's installed, thanks very much for the help. What bits of AVG itself do I have to keep running DW> to make it operational? I don't think I want to run AVG's Resident DW> Shield alongside Trend's Real-Time monitor, for instance. But I do DW> want it to update. DW> Doug Just uncheck the Resident Shield boxes (and then click on Save Parameters as New Default) and leave the control center (icon on your taskbar) running. You need not have the Resident Shield operational for the plugin to do it's job. I know many that have two or three AV's installed with the primary AV performing resident scan operation and the other two to either utilize a plugin feature or have a back up AV program to check to see if the primary missed something. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaSnWWGmTEg4iItaEQKzXQCfaCk7ToQs1+GkIGqlRxsSQd0o0wUAn2/M fJuAXypLnNY+sXHLH6emeCqk =V2KG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
Hi Databug (sorry, don't know your real name), On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 21:15 your local time, which was 13:15 my local time, Databug Databug [D] wrote; D>>> It the password for the account within the Bat. She password protected D>>> it to keep it private. MW>> IIRC (and someone will set me straight if not) the file ACCOUNT.CFG in MW>> the mail folder contains the password info. If you rename that or move MW>> it somewhere else then the account will again become unprotected. D> Cheers Excellent that worked :). When you renamed the 'account.cfg' file, what else did you lose other than the password? Did you have to set the whole account up again? The reason I ask is because my sister has done the same thing. She's in the UK and I'm in the USA and I wanted a heads up on what we'll need to go through. Thanks, Chris. -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton & AVG. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I get rid of an account
Hello Peter, On the 09/10/2002, you babbled on about "How can I get rid of an account" PP> On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:16:01 +0100 PP> Databug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> If it's from TB, just click on tha account name, then on the Account >>> menu, then click on Delete. If you mean from the email provider, you >>> will have to check with them. >> >> No can`t do that because its password protected and its this password >> I need. PP> [...] >> It the password for the account within the Bat. She password protected >> it to keep it private. PP> Close The Bat!, rename the accounts folder and start The Bat!. See PP> what happens. PP> If The Bat! refuses to work normally close it again, PP> - execute'regedit.exe', PP> - search for PP> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\ PP> - Save this tree to a .reg file. PP> - Go to PP> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\User Depots PP> - Look around in that key for an entry having the accounts name as PP> value. PP> - remember the number in this entrys name PP> - delete exactly this one entry PP> - delete the 'Dir' entry PP> - bring all other entries to correct and progressional numbering PP> - update the value of 'count' (or similar, have no windows ready at the PP> moment) PP> - close registry editor PP> - start The Bat! PP> Attention: all this is written down form memory only, names may very PP> _slightly_. If there are key/value names _really_ different from what's PP> written here yu might be at wrong position in regitry. Thank you also however renaming the account.cfg did what I needed and was the least complicated way of doing things :). That`s all for now -- __ _ _ __ _ _ __ __ _ _ _ //\/ _ /\/_ __/\/ _ /\/ __ /\/ // /\/ ___/\_ _/ // / / _ / /\/ /\_\/ _ / / __ / / // / / /¸-¸\/_ // /_//_/ / /_/ / /_//_/ // // // /__ \\/\_\\_\/ \_\/ \_\\_\/\\/\\/\\/___ .this Email has been brought to you by the Databug ©. Other EMail:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nr:- 87314826 IRC Nicks:- databug, MadMango Homepage:- http://www.arkofnoah.co.uk I have opinions of my own - strong opinions - but I don't always agree with them. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: How can I get rid of an account
Hello Mark, On the 09/10/2002, you babbled on about "How can I get rid of an account" MW> Databug- MW> Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 10:16:01 AM, you wrote: D>> It the password for the account within the Bat. She password protected D>> it to keep it private. MW> IIRC (and someone will set me straight if not) the file ACCOUNT.CFG in MW> the mail folder contains the password info. If you rename that or move MW> it somewhere else then the account will again become unprotected. MW> -Mark Wieder Cheers Excellent that worked :). That`s all for now -- __ _ _ __ _ _ __ __ _ _ _ //\/ _ /\/_ __/\/ _ /\/ __ /\/ // /\/ ___/\_ _/ // / / _ / /\/ /\_\/ _ / / __ / / // / / /¸-¸\/_ // /_//_/ / /_/ / /_//_/ // // // /__ \\/\_\\_\/ \_\/ \_\\_\/\\/\\/\\/___ .this Email has been brought to you by the Databug ©. Other EMail:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nr:- 87314826 IRC Nicks:- databug, MadMango Homepage:- http://www.arkofnoah.co.uk Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crashes through HTML mail?
Hello Markus! On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 at 7:11:50 PM you wrote: > Try to keep track of GDI resources. The HTML parser might use them all > up. I don't know what tools are out there to check GDI usage on Win98, > though. Thanks, the part about GDI I knew. what I try to find out is, what exactly in these mails triggers TB!'s parser to use them all up in an instant. BTW, it's Win95 with me. Upon re-reading I think I may sound a bit saucy. It wasn't meant to be ... it was a long day, I've headaches, and are coming to the decision that relationships between man and woman aren't worth the trouble. sorry! -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Schmuck ist die teuerste Möglichkeit, von der Schönheit einer Frau abzulenken. (D.A. Wien) Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
Hi Mark On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 12:09 our local time, Mark Wieder [MW] wrote; MW> IIRC (and someone will set me straight if not) the file ACCOUNT.CFG in MW> the mail folder contains the password info. If you rename that or move MW> it somewhere else then the account will again become unprotected. What information is held within the 'account.cfg' file? Chris. -- E-Mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created Using The Bat! V1.61 and Virus Checked by Norton & AVG. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: How can I get rid of an account
Databug- Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 10:16:01 AM, you wrote: D> It the password for the account within the Bat. She password protected D> it to keep it private. IIRC (and someone will set me straight if not) the file ACCOUNT.CFG in the mail folder contains the password info. If you rename that or move it somewhere else then the account will again become unprotected. -Mark Wieder Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: You've new messages in SOME folders
On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, ~John & Marjorie~ wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: M> Is there a way to set a filter to mark the unimportant messages as M> "Read" and the important ones UnRead ? John & Marjorie, There's no way to filter on "importance," except for the following methods: A. If it is true that messages from certain *individuals* are generally more important than messages from other senders, then you could filter by address book or address book group. The filter can mark certain messages as read and others as unread, but you would probably also want to use folders or custom color groups as part of the mix in order to know where to find the unread messages. (Another way to go is to have all identified messages go into a certain folder, and enable the tickler for that folder.) B. You can also filter on priority, recipient address (in case you use several), or any other indicator of importance. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: You've new messages in SOME folders
Joseph, Is there a way to set a filter to mark the unimportant messages as "Read" and the important ones UnRead ? -- Best Regards, The Morse Family, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Joseph N. wrote on Wednesday, October 9, 2002 - - - > Fernando, > There is not a way to enable to flying bat for only some folders and > not others, but here's an alternative way you could go: You could > disable the flying bat altogether, and then enable the mail tickler > for only those folders which are important enough for you to know > about right away. Post another message if this approach interests you > but you do not know how to do it. - - - End of Joseph N.'s message - - - Fight the spread of Viruses, Spam, and HTML E-Mail! "AVG" Anti-Virus http://www.grisoft.com "The Bat" E-Mail Client http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Recovering old messages
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:20:08 +0530 Venu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While moving from Win2K to Win XP, I did not perform the elementary > backup.Just moved the whole directory over to another partition. Is > there any way I can recover my old messages? Copy back your saved directory, start The Bat! and create accounts with their old names. The Bat! will recognize the old folders then and all settings saved in account folders will be preserved. One exception: if your user name for mail server (POP3 for sure, SMTP-auth I don't know exactly) was something with '@' in it, like your complete e-mail address, only the user part will be preserved. You'll have to change this back manually, for whatever reasons The Bat! does not preserve the whole string, but only up to the first '@' in username when 'recovering' accounts this way. -- HTH Pit Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:16:01 +0100 Databug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If it's from TB, just click on tha account name, then on the Account >> menu, then click on Delete. If you mean from the email provider, you >> will have to check with them. > > No can`t do that because its password protected and its this password > I need. [...] > It the password for the account within the Bat. She password protected > it to keep it private. Close The Bat!, rename the accounts folder and start The Bat!. See what happens. If The Bat! refuses to work normally close it again, - execute'regedit.exe', - search for HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\ - Save this tree to a .reg file. - Go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\User Depots - Look around in that key for an entry having the accounts name as value. - remember the number in this entrys name - delete exactly this one entry - delete the 'Dir' entry - bring all other entries to correct and progressional numbering - update the value of 'count' (or similar, have no windows ready at the moment) - close registry editor - start The Bat! Attention: all this is written down form memory only, names may very _slightly_. If there are key/value names _really_ different from what's written here yu might be at wrong position in regitry. -- HTH Pit Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: You've new messages in SOME folders
Fernando, There is not a way to enable to flying bat for only some folders and not others, but here's an alternative way you could go: You could disable the flying bat altogether, and then enable the mail tickler for only those folders which are important enough for you to know about right away. Post another message if this approach interests you but you do not know how to do it. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
You've new messages in SOME folders
Hi, I've just changed from Eudora to The Bat! and there are a lot of things that I don't know if they can be done and if so, how. For example, one of the reasons for me to use The Bat! is that little and beautiful icon in the traybar, so I can minimize the mailer without closing it and without using space in my taskbar. And better yet, I see a flying bat when I have unread mail. Ok, but... Suppouse I know that I have some emails waiting for reply, but I'll reply to them tomorrow because I don't have spare time enough today. So I left them unread (so I can see where they are within my 200+ folders) but... what a shame! The bat is flying all the day! The question: is there a way to specify that you want to know when new mail arrives to SOME folders? For example, I don't want to bother if NYtimes email arrives to my system, so when I receive one of these I don't want the bat to fly... but if the email is from my boss, I do. Sorry for my English... I hope you'll understand the situation. The question is: is it possible to do this today? If so, how? If not, would it be possible to add it to the wishlist? Best regards from Spain, Fernando Nájera Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Export filters?
On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, Joseph N. wrote: -Original Message- JN>On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, syv wrote in JN> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: s>> The purpose is to move some of the filters to the mail s>> server JN> syv, JN> Well, not sure what type of mail server you have, but the syntax for JN> the filters is very probably different. If that's the case, then no, JN> there is no effective way for you to export them. There never was an intention of importing the rules on the mail server, but to create new rules based on TB. Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply quote
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:53:48 AM, you wrote: TF> Hello Adam, TF> On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 17:39:39 -0230 GMT (09/10/02, 03:09 +0700 GMT), TF> Adam wrote: A>> I started a Reply, but only part of the message was quoted. I've never A>> seen that happen before. In this message, the respondent had a A>> separator like ---. TF> Are you sure this was not "-- " (dash-dash-space-enter)? Yup, I'm sure. I suppose I can't tell if there were a space in the open. Could you detect a ghost space by itself? TF> That is the TF> signature delimiter, and TB, like any good mailer, is not supposed to TF> quote what is below this line. A>> After that, most of the text was not quoted. TF> What do you mean by "most"? Was some of the text below still quoted? Nope. Always just 2 paragraphs. You're sharp aren't you Thomas? :-) -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Export filters?
Hello syv, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 2:14:59 PM, you wrote: s> On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, Joseph N. wrote: s> The purpose is to move some of the filters to the mail s> server [mostly to filter spam] and to make sure I do not s> miss some. Hard to imagine a mail server running the Bat. Try adding a standard signature delimiter to your reply template. That way TB strips the list footer automatically when replying to your messages. -- Best regards, Adam Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:14:59 PM, you wrote: DW>> > It's not easy to find. You have to scroll down through the Updates > listing or simply go here: > http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=222c74fe60752605c3145686492d8df6 Ok, it's installed, thanks very much for the help. What bits of AVG itself do I have to keep running to make it operational? I don't think I want to run AVG's Resident Shield alongside Trend's Real-Time monitor, for instance. But I do want it to update. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Export filters?
On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, syv wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: s> The purpose is to move some of the filters to the mail s> server syv, Well, not sure what type of mail server you have, but the syntax for the filters is very probably different. If that's the case, then no, there is no effective way for you to export them. -- JN Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: How can I get rid of an account
Hello Deborah, On the 09/10/2002, you babbled on about "How can I get rid of an account" DW> On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 10:22:03 AM, Databug wrote: D>> My daughter has set up an account but forgotten the password. How can D>> I delete this account? Is it possible at all? DW> Do you mean delete it from TB or from the email provider? DW> If it's from TB, just click on tha account name, then on the Account DW> menu, then click on Delete. If you mean from the email provider, you DW> will have to check with them. No can`t do that because its password protected and its this password I need. DW> She may be able to get the password by checking with the email DW> provider btw. It the password for the account within the Bat. She password protected it to keep it private. That`s all for now -- __ _ _ __ _ _ __ __ _ _ _ //\/ _ /\/_ __/\/ _ /\/ __ /\/ // /\/ ___/\_ _/ // / / _ / /\/ /\_\/ _ / / __ / / // / / /¸-¸\/_ // /_//_/ / /_/ / /_//_/ // // // /__ \\/\_\\_\/ \_\/ \_\\_\/\\/\\/\\/___ .this Email has been brought to you by the Databug ©. Other EMail:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nr:- 87314826 IRC Nicks:- databug, MadMango Homepage:- http://www.arkofnoah.co.uk Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Crashes through HTML mail?
Hi, Dierk Haasis wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : > Anybody else encountering such behaviour. Try to keep track of GDI resources. The HTML parser might use them all up. I don't know what tools are out there to check GDI usage on Win98, though. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.62/Beta5 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Export filters?
On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, Joseph N. wrote: The purpose is to move some of the filters to the mail server [mostly to filter spam] and to make sure I do not miss some. -Original Message- JN>On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, syv wrote in JN> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: s>> Is there a way to export the filters? JN> syv, JN> I'm not sure what is your ultimate intended use, so there may be other JN> ways to accomplish your objectives, but each filter can be copied and JN> then pasted into a text file. The lines from the text file can then be JN> copied and pasted into a new installation or account of TB! Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Crashes through HTML mail?
Hello TBUDL Members! One of the newsletters I receive is the New York Times one. At first I signed up to receive the HTML format which most of the times seemed to work. Nonetheless sometimes when I try to scroll the NYT newsletter it invariably brings down the system. I get an error message Win 3.1x style telling me of a problem, regardless of the Ignore button only the Close one works - and mostly not very good (the response time is way down). Afterwards I get an AV from Win95 for TB!. clicking that all kinds of open programmes come down due to system resources lack - all go with Win3.x and then Win95 error messages. One of the programmes is the Windows Explorer. With luck I can then start Windows/the machine anew, sometimes I have to revert to a reset. Today the crash wasn't that hard, I could at least close Opera (no, usually not open when that happens) and restart without reset. This only happens with the newsletter from NYT trying to be scrolled. It doesn't matter how many tasks are open, how fresh the system is for the day or which programmes run. The mouse is a Logitech Trackball Marble FX. No, I don't have one of the offending newsletters left, I deleted them first thing after restart. And I changed to plain text today. Oh, I also saw with (all) NYT newsletters a funny graphical glitch: Part of the newsletter layout (a dropdown list) appears statically in the message list above the message. Anybody else encountering such behaviour. -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.61 on Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Love deeply and passionately. You might get hurt but it's the only way to live life. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
FastMail + TB
Is anyone using FastMail? How do you like it? Is it possible to configure it so that I can write and receive messages from within TB? Best regards, Miles Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Export filters?
ON Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 4:42:22 PM, you wrote: s> Is there a way to export the filters? Hi syv, You can copy (ctrl-c) and Paste (Ctr-V) them. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The sex was so good that even the neighbors had a cigarette. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Export filters?
Hallo syv, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 07:42:22 -0700GMT (9-10-02, 16:42 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: s> Is there a way to export the filters? Only the manual way: Ctrl-C Ctrl-V into a text-file and to copy the whole sorting office, the account.srx file. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Export filters?
On Wednesday, October 09, 2002, syv wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: s> Is there a way to export the filters? syv, I'm not sure what is your ultimate intended use, so there may be other ways to accomplish your objectives, but each filter can be copied and then pasted into a text file. The lines from the text file can then be copied and pasted into a new installation or account of TB! -- JN Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Export filters?
Hi, Is there a way to export the filters? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Filters are sooooo complicated
Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 8:22:54 AM, you wrote: MO> On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 08:25, Richard Wakeford wrote: >> Until yesterday all my sent mail came back to the Inbox without a CC >> or rule. MO> Could it be your ISP automatically adding a BCC to you on every mail you MO> send? Ask them! IIRC, Richard, that's what CIX/Ameol does. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- Best regards, myobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Recovering old messages
Hello tbudl, While moving from Win2K to Win XP, I did not perform the elementary backup.Just moved the whole directory over to another partition. Is there any way I can recover my old messages? -- Best regards, Venu mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: glyphs
Hi Deborah, On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 5:18:23 PM, you wrote: L>> A reboot isn't necesarry, just an exit and start up again. My guess L>> would be that something's wrong with the files you dl'd. Here's where DW> I'm glad it's working for Jan, but it isn't working for me :-( I have an XP machine with two profiles, both running The Bat!. For one user the glyph stuff worked, for the other it didn't. So I compared the settings and found out the following: To use the icons in glyphs.bmp, you need to set the option "High color images" (options/preferences -general). After a restart of TB! all the new cool icons will show up! -- marco | [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB!1.62/Beta1|Windows 2000 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:11:24 AM RE: "what are bat*.tmp files?" Greetings Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 3:01:25 AM, you wrote: >> You can get AVG plug-in directly from Grisoft: >> http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe DW> Thanks. I thought I'd searched their site! It's not easy to find. You have to scroll down through the Updates listing or simply go here: http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=222c74fe60752605c3145686492d8df6 Hope this helps. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaQdqvrDU+56b7pcEQJfBQCgmkW+sYl+D+b8AkuAMzLhtBlabvIAoPfs kIKACZdTuwvCqw7q/7/qEcTo =0+JX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Special Characters Filter
TheBat, I have filters set to send everything to the trash that has 'Special Characters' like ÃÀ¤Á My filter is set so that if any of those characters are used anywhere in the message it should send it to the trash. However my question is, why does some of them still slip through? I will get this message because my filter for this group is ahead of the special character filter. -- Best Regards, The Morse Family, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fight the spread of Viruses, Spam, and HTML E-Mail! "AVG" Anti-Virus http://www.grisoft.com "The Bat" E-Mail Client http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! does not check periodically for new e-mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi &Ngr;&iacgr;&kgr;&ogr;&sfgr;, @9-Oct-2002, 13:49 +0300 (11:49 UK time) &Ngr;&iacgr;&kgr;&ogr;&sfgr; &Ggr;&egr;&ohgr;&rgr;&ggr;&iacgr;&ogr;&ugr; [] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I'm not using Zone Alarm. Two other known causes are attached to this behaviour: 1. The user is using or has used a cracked TB. 2. If the user is known to be registered and the version of The Bat! isn't modified, try switching off html auto-view. The user should also configure The Bat! to display messages as a plain-text, not html. There are some suspects that the html viewer can affect auto-view. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9pA6EOeQkq5KdzaARAh3CAKCHbmeuNiv4WcF+tq3MWr1cuYlZ7QCgt7JZ LMhGS3vonGo30/rXZoq2S1M= =6rUw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
No receipt of registration number
Hello, Everyone... Halfway through the evaluation period for "The Bat" I mailed my registration information and check to the address provided in the program under "Help". There has been no reply, and the snail mail one way would have taken no more than three days - max. Two weeks later, after not receiving any reply, I emailed the company to inquire about the lack of a reply. No answer to that email message either. At this point it has been over three weeks; the evalation period has ended, and I'm back using another email program. Has anyone else experienced this situation? Suggestions would be welcome... Thank you. Susan Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! does not check periodically for new e-mail
Hello Marcus, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 12:35:42 PM, you wrote: >> What could be the problem? I'm using Norton Antivirus and E-mail >> protection is activated, could that be a problem? MO> Probably not but Zone Alarm is known to generate error as the one you I'm not using Zone Alarm. -- Best regards, &Ngr;&iacgr;&kgr;&ogr;&sfgr;mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Lost message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Richard, @9-Oct-2002, 07:33 Richard Wakeford [RW] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP>> Then the only explanation is a difference in configuration ... ... RW> No, addresses fine and messages normal text. It's my RW> misunderstanding of the rules and their hierarchy :-( Filter rules for Outgoing messages are only used *after* they are sent. They cannot affect what happens to them before or during transmission. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.62/Beta5 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0-nr2 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9pAclOeQkq5KdzaARAnCAAJ9kX5VXrmsrZqrXznpi9fMs4540rwCgnV/2 V0EcknwVZfWZ2KsgwI09MDc= =KWfQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: How can I get rid of an account
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 10:22:03 AM, Databug wrote: D> My daughter has set up an account but forgotten the password. How can D> I delete this account? Is it possible at all? Do you mean delete it from TB or from the email provider? If it's from TB, just click on tha account name, then on the Account menu, then click on Delete. If you mean from the email provider, you will have to check with them. She may be able to get the password by checking with the email provider btw. -- Deborah Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! does not check periodically for new e-mail
On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 10:29, &Ngr;&iacgr;&kgr;&ogr;&sfgr; &Ggr;&egr;&ohgr;&rgr;&ggr;&iacgr;&ogr;&ugr; wrote: > I'm using The Bat! 1.60m > I can't remember when this started... The Bat! checks for new e-mail > only when at startup. I have set periodical checking (10 minutes > interval) on every account. But nothing happens. > What could be the problem? I'm using Norton Antivirus and E-mail > protection is activated, could that be a problem? Probably not but Zone Alarm is known to generate error as the one you describe. Are you using ZA? If so, try disabling it. If that does not work, try uninstall ZA. Let us know what happens. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlstr&phgr;m Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How can I get rid of an account
Hello all, My daughter has set up an account but forgotten the password. How can I delete this account? Is it possible at all? That`s all for now -- __ _ _ __ _ _ __ __ _ _ _ //\/ _ /\/_ __/\/ _ /\/ __ /\/ // /\/ ___/\_ _/ // / / _ / /\/ /\_\/ _ / / __ / / // / / /¸-¸\/_ // /_//_/ / /_/ / /_//_/ // // // /__ \\/\_\\_\/ \_\/ \_\\_\/\\/\\/\\/___ .this Email has been brought to you by the Databug ©. Other EMail:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ Nr:- 87314826 IRC Nicks:- databug, MadMango Homepage:- http://www.arkofnoah.co.uk There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: glyphs
On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 4:36:11 PM, Markus Gloede wrote: MG> Check under Options/Preferences/General, there is one option "use high MG> color images", perhaps that makes a difference. Ah-HAH! It *works* :- I didn't even have to re-start TB :-) -- Deborah very relieved that nothing is wrong after all :-) Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: glyphs
On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 4:30:43 PM, Gerard wrote: G> Hi Deborah, G>They must be in the same directory as thebat.exe. Yep, they are. G>-Go to explorer and The Bat directory. G>-Make sure you can see thebat.exe and glyphs.bmp. G>-Now double click thebat.exe OK, I did that. G>If you now see the glymps, you must have an other copy of the bat G>somewhere. Still can't see them :-( G>If not try reinstalling the bat because something is wrong :( :-((( -- Deborah Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: <<< button?
Hello there, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 11:15:55 AM, Daniel Jagszent wrote: DJ> "<<" removes the addresses of the *current* tab (e.g. the To tab) and DJ> "<<<" removes the addresses of all tabs (To, CC, BCC) Ah, thank you, that makes sense... -- Best regards, Alexander Cicovic Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat! does not check periodically for new e-mail
Hello TBUDL, I'm using The Bat! 1.60m I can't remember when this started... The Bat! checks for new e-mail only when at startup. I have set periodical checking (10 minutes interval) on every account. But nothing happens. What could be the problem? I'm using Norton Antivirus and E-mail protection is activated, could that be a problem? TIA, Nikos Georgiou Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: <<< button?
Hello Thomas, Hello Alexander, AC>> when pressing "redirect", "create message for" etc under the AC>> Actions tab in the sorting office, a dialog where you choose the AC>> addresses appear. I am unable to understand the <<< button's AC>> function. > I don't see a difference between << and <<< either. "<<" removes the addresses of the *current* tab (e.g. the To tab) and "<<<" removes the addresses of all tabs (To, CC, BCC) -- HTH Daniel Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filters are sooooo complicated
ON Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 8:19:34 AM, you wrote: RW> Hello Marck, RW> Then some messages started not showing up in the Inbox or the other RW> reader and I'm now told, obviously correctly, that I have to put a RW> rule in the Outbox redirecting my mail to the Inbox so that it can RW> be redircted to the relevant folder. Is that correct? Sort of but it is not the most logical route. After you press the sent button a copy of the msg will be placed in the Sent folder "UNLESS" you have an Outgoing Mail filter that moves this msg some were else. Remember you can also COPY the msg leaving a copy in the sent folder and one in the new location. Now you could move it to the Inbox but this will not trigger the Incoming mail filter because this is NOT incoming mail. You would have to do a manual refilter. I would recommend using the Outgoing Mail filter to place the msg directly into the appropriate folder. When I am working with filters I usually also set a colour in the same filter together with the action I am trying to create. This makes it easy to check wether a certain filter was triggered and used ;-) RW> I think I'm slowly getting there :-) Slowly but surly and we will all help ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= More than any time in history mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness, the other to total extinction. Let us pray that we have the wisdom to choose correctly. - Woody Allen Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
