Re[6]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello tracer, t I leave this to someone else to comment on as I havent got the time to t visit your system (g). well, as I'm behind 3 proxies 2 firewalls you may need some time... Roel no, only dos finds the drives... Roel even worse: if there's no dos in my boot-sector, the bios won't even Roel recognise the disk... (and that goes for nt as well... I'm forced to Roel running 95/98 systems...) t As said, describe motherboard/processor/bios and what linux you used as t this makes absolutely no sense. Motherboard: not really sure it's an Intel it supports the pentium 75,90,100 120 not sure about the chipset... Processor: intel pentium 75 Linux: SuSe 6.2, sco-unix: 5.03, Beos 4.0 - They all screw up... only msdos survives... Roel since it's a rather old motherboard, I'm forced to use 'extended Roel chs'... lba-mode finds about 500 mb of a 3.1GB disk... t sounds like this is the reason.. well, the problem occurs before there should be the need for an os: it happens at system-check... (the bios rejects the drive on startup, the os doesn't have a clue there is even one...) t Once you fiddle with the bios, almost any os gets a problem unless you t use special tools to get at the other part of the drive I can't even get an error from the os... as the os sits on the hard-disk that has vanished from the system-check... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My wife ran away with my best friend. I sure miss him. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[7]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Wednesday, November 17, 1999 Hello Roel, Wednesday, Wednesday, November 17, 1999, you wrote: Roel \\\|/// Roel / ~ _ \ Roel (- O o -) Roel --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Roel Hello tracer, Roel no, only dos finds the drives... Roel even worse: if there's no dos in my boot-sector, the bios won't even Roel recognise the disk... (and that goes for nt as well... I'm forced to Roel running 95/98 systems...) t As said, describe motherboard/processor/bios and what linux you used as t this makes absolutely no sense. Roel Motherboard: not really sure Roel it's an Intel it supports the pentium 75,90,100 120 As far as I know P60/66/75 and 90 were on one kind of chipset. 100 had a different board and then 120/133 up had another chipset again. Its a bit history but I think as sockets where different size unlikely they all could fit on your board I have had an Intel p60 in the far past and never had problems but my drives were small. Ok, I have asked a few friends as well if they have any ideas. I mean if you can run dos it should be possible to get Linux on it (!) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 10:34:26 PM, tracer wrote: Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over a network Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 10:34:26 PM, tracer wrote: Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over a network Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P Samba. Sure, build a firewall to keep your intranet secure, and then run Samba. Tomorrow, folks, we build submarines with screen doors. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P Seems like hell :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with a large hammer .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Wednesday, November 17, 1999, 6:39:29 AM, Roel wrote: SL Samba. Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network. :P Seems like hell :-) Better than trying to find a free NFS for Windows. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[7]: Moving from one PC to another
Hi Soth, ... S I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add S sub-folders to the sorting filters? Their use would be primarily for S grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to S lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters. Not a bad idea. But I give much higher priority to the proposal to have an import/export facility for filters, which uses a plain text file format. Regards, Wolfgang Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists Using The Bat! 1.36 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B in Darmstadt, Germany, on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB SDRAM, half SCSI system ;-) http://people.frankfurt.netsurf.de/wky/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Roel, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Roel \\\|/// Roel / ~ _ \ Roel (- O o -) Roel --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Roel Hello tracer, Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) t use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old t hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you t need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail t if you donot do that Roel use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...) ok... understood... never used it that way, I like mail to sit on my pc!! Roel here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is Roel keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an Roel internet gateway... Roel since no program actually runs on it (except a firewall and the Roel occasional defrag scandisk) it runs fine... (although I have to Roel reboot it every 3 days for some unknown reason) sounds like my kids could loose their p75 (g) Roel This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the Roel other 2 pc's :-) ) manage it from every place... ok, will try that but that means having to network that lot and thats work in the house... t One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on t my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... t C only has the MS and OS stuff. Roel same setup here :-) I just love to see a whole system get up running Roel in 15 minutes :-) 100% agreed. Thats one of the services I offer them here, cloned copy of their proper running system so if they mess it up (g) they can be back in 15 minutes as it was when they liked it. Better for me as its hard work recovering stuff, dificult to charge for and customer unhappy as system isnt the same. All they have to do is keep added software and make backups of data. Their system is on a cd as ghost image (well, a few at present...) Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Wednesday, November 17, 1999 Hello Steve, Wednesday, Wednesday, November 17, 1999, you wrote: Steve Monday, November 15, 1999, 6:19:33 PM, Roel wrote: use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...) Steve Uhm, sure. I'll just share my mail folders over the internet. ;) here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an internet gateway... Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over a network This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the other 2 pc's :-) ) manage it from every place... Steve *cough* No comment. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Steve, SL Uhm, sure. I'll just share my mail folders over the internet. ;) no, that doesn't happen as I'm working with 2 network-cards here (cable-modems, you gotta love 'em) all I have to do to prevent this, is turn off the bindings for 'file printer sharing' 'client for microsoft networks' on the network-card connected to my cable-modem et voila: you can't login anymore :-) here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an internet gateway... SL If that is it, run Linux and Samba. Better use of the hardware. tried it, linux couldn't find my hard-disks :-( - and as we all know it's rather difficult to run without one ;) No really, this was my original idea, but some weird problem (not solely linux, also sco-unix and beos can't find it...) therefore, I'm condemned to running windows... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you save the world too often, it begins to expect it. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Hi all, Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I wasn't assuming anything. I was just asking a specific question. In your question was the assumption of there being the possibility of putting things on the same drive. I am aware that it was possible to copy to a different drive. I was just asking about my particular situation where both machines in my home have F: drives where apps are installed. BTW, things become a little complicated when your home directory is not in the default location. What home directory. Come now, Ali, we both know that Windows doesn't have home directories. That's a Unixism. In The Bat!, open the account properties, and select File and Directories. There you'll see the home directory to which I'm referring. Well, if you are moving to another drive then it's not worth it. If you're moving to the same drive so that the paths remain the same then it's less trouble to move it than, redoing all the settings. I still isn't worth it since ancillary information may be located differently on each machine. If the ancillary information aren't located differently and both installations will be identical as may occur if you wish to do a clean reinstall on your system, or if you are transferring to the same partition on the other machine, then backing up the registry key saves you the trouble of reconfiguring and re-registering. What's this aversion with backing up a registry key and restoring it on another machine which will use the same configuration? This is entirely possible and far from unusual. I'm simply delineating the possible benefit of transferring the registry settings. I do acknowledge that it's possible to do a transfer without carrying over registry keys and that transferring the registry keys would be pointless if you are copying to a different drive or plan to use a different configuration. -- Regards, -=Ali=- "One martini is alright, two is too many, three is not enough." - James Thurber, American humorist (1894-1961) ** Using The Bat! v1.37 Beta/3 [-] Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) **
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Monday, November 15, 1999, 9:02:56 AM, Ali wrote: In The Bat!, open the account properties, and select File and Directories. There you'll see the home directory to which I'm referring. Funny, why do you think I said TB! should use relative paths, not absolute. I forced it to be relative and it works just fine. What's this aversion with backing up a registry key and restoring it on another machine which will use the same configuration? This is entirely possible and far from unusual. Because in my experience no machine of mine at home or work has ever used the same configuration. They always vary in some form or another. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another
Morning Steve Lamb, 2: Even if you do know you don't feel like typing it all out (no tab completion) or going through the registry editor. A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password Exactly. Install a Unix variant, get rid of that pesky registry. If only I could... I agree the registry concept is thoroughly fucked up. Only global settings should be stored in a global database, why do all the Windows programmers not seem to follow this simple concept? It really only makes reinstalling Windows a heck of a hassle. Excuse my venting. -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build :with The Bat! 1.36
OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote: A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) Exactly. Install a Unix variant, get rid of that pesky registry. If only I could... I agree the registry concept is thoroughly fucked up. Only global settings should be stored in a global database, why do all the Windows programmers not seem to follow this simple concept? It really only makes reinstalling Windows a heck of a hassle. Excuse my venting. Because Windows is still considered a single-user environment and people don't move from one machine to the other. This is quickly becoming not the case as computers become more pervasive. To think, Unix got it right 20-30 years ago yet there are still people who don't get it when others say that Microsoft has seriously stifled innovation. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+-
Re[4]: Moving from one PC to another
Re[5]: Moving from one PC to another
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Soth, could you resend your last two messages: they showed up with nothing in them... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Captain, I sense a million minds staring at my cleavage." .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re[6]: Moving from one PC to another
This is my second attempt... I'll skip the first message -- the topic has been beaten to death. ;-) But, here's the second topic... my brilliant idea. ;-) Subj: Idea for sorting office I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add sub-folders to the sorting filters? Their use would be primarily for grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters. The big question, IMHO, would be how would these affect the order in which the filters are processed? I think, tho', that this won't pose too big a problem if we assume that in any folder (including the root folder for that set of filters), we can intermix folders and filters (instead of all filters first or all filters last): 1. Filter A 2. Folder B 3. Filter C then the processing would be: filter A, all the filters in folder B, filter C. Anyhow, what do you think? - M.
Re[7]: Moving from one PC to another
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Soth, S But, here's the second topic... my brilliant idea. ;-) S Subj: Idea for sorting office S I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add S sub-folders to the sorting filters? Their use would be primarily for S grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to S lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters. well, they kinda exist: just use 'alternatives'... drawback: only usefull if the exact same action can be performed... S The big question, IMHO, would be how would these affect the order S snip ... S Anyhow, what do you think? well, i like the idea i do think many people (including myself) would be happy with it... It sure would make filter-organizing much easier... -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daddy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: COMPLETE mean? .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!)
Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
Tuesday, November 16, 1999 Hello Steve, Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote: Steve Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote: A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and you only have to enter the password Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail if you donot do that One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... C only has the MS and OS stuff. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/3 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY
Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello tracer, Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine? :) t use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over or hang the old t hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you t need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail t if you donot do that use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...) here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders providing an internet gateway... since no program actually runs on it (except a firewall and the occasional defrag scandisk) it runs fine... (although I have to reboot it every 3 days for some unknown reason) This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the other 2 pc's :-) ) manage it from every place... t One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on t my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds... t C only has the MS and OS stuff. same setup here :-) I just love to see a whole system get up running in 15 minutes :-) -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stay Alert. Stay Awake. Stay Alive. .oooO ( ) Oooo. --\ (( ) \_)) / (_/ Visit the official site of Enigma at http://www.enigma3.com (it's really worth it!) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Hi all, On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 1:26:01 AM (-5 GMT), Werner scribbled: Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take? Move the contents of the program directory and all subdirectories to the new PC. That's all. He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it in his new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory to a drive of the same name as on the old machine. -- Regards, -=Ali=- Oxymoron: Random Order. *---* Running The Bat! v1.37 Beta/1 in Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another
On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 12:08:42 PM Ali Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it in his new machines registry. I Don't believe this ;-)) I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly... Werner Hintze -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Moving from one PC to another
Bonjour, Sunday, November 14, 1999, 1:16:16 PM (in UTC +0100), Werner Hintze wrote: WH On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 12:08:42 PM Ali Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it in his new machines registry. WH I Don't believe this ;-)) WH I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my WH notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without WH synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly... Well : I have exactly the same need at the same date (monday). The solution I've choosen : #1 Install completely The Bat! on the new machine (from the downloaded file : to be sure all the registry keys will be ok) #2 Copy of the entire directory and subdirectories of The Bat! on the new directory created by the installation I suppose everything will be ok then Any comments or advices ? A bientôt, Philippe Le bourreau l'etrangla avec un cordon de soie qui se rompit ; il fallut y revenir a deux fois. Le Cardinal regarda le bourreau sans daigner prononcer un mot. (Sthendhal) -- Philippe Gouillou - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.st-kilda.com - http://www.softeye.com http://www.douance.org - http://www.evopsy.org -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[4]: Moving from one PC to another
Hello Philippe, Hamburg/GER, Sunday, November 14, 1999 in your mail dated Sunday, November 14, 1999, 13:49, you whispered something about "Moving from one PC to another": PG I suppose everything will be ok then To be SURE, everything will be okay you can create two batch files, to save your TB-registry-settings and to restore them on the new computer. They look as follows: SAVESETTINGS.BAT: @remThis batch file saves The Bat! settings from the registry @remto file TBSave.reg regedit /e TBSave.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT RESTORESETTINGS.BAT: @remThis batch file restores The Bat! settings from previously saved @remfile TBSave.reg to the registry regedit TBSave.reg Good luck! -- Best regards, Andreas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/2 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with an AMD K6-III 400, 128MB SDRAM PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Hi all, On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 7:16:16 AM (-5 GMT), Werner scribbled: He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it in his new machines registry. I Don't believe this ;-)) I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly... I don't think that proves your point. If I were to move my The Bat! directory to another partition and simply update my shortcuts, The Bat! will function properly then? If this is true then you would be correct. -- Regards, -=Ali=- I know it all. I just can't remember it all at once. *---* Running The Bat! v1.37 Beta/1 in Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[5]: Moving from one PC to another
Bonjour, Sunday, November 14, 1999, 2:03:51 PM (in UTC +0100), Andreas Rumpenhorst wrote: AR Good luck! Thank you : I'll use this also ! A bientôt, Philippe Un Pape est mort. Un autre Pape est appele a regner. Araignee ? Quel drole de nom pour un Pape ! Pourquoi pas Libellule, Papillon... (Prevert) -- Philippe Gouillou - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.st-kilda.com - http://www.softeye.com http://www.douance.org - http://www.evopsy.org -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Sunday, November 14, 1999, 3:08:42 AM, Ali wrote: He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it in his new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory to a drive of the same name as on the old machine. The registry doesn't need to be copied over. In fact, the program doesn't need to be copied over. If TB! could only use relative paths then it wouldn't mess up on a lot of things it currently breaks on. :/ -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another
Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take? Move the contents of the program directory and all subdirectories to the new PC. That's all. He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it in his new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory to a drive of the same name as on the old machine. One approach that I've taken _countless_ times and which doesn't involve touching the registry (but which _does_ preserve all the account settings...) is: 1. Reinstall TB! wherever you want it. 2. When it automatically starts running, kill it. 3. Copy all of the ./mail/* stuff over to your new installation 4. Start TB! and then start re-creating your accounts... just specify the folder (if your account name is different than your folder name... if not, you can leave it on default...) This approach does lose things such as your editor preferences, whether or not you have the ticker going, etc... (ie/ the preferences that are global rather than account-specific) but templates, macros, servers, filters, etc. are all saved. What does exporting the registry help save? -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Hi all, On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 8:22:47 AM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled: He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it in his new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory to a drive of the same name as on the old machine. The registry doesn't need to be copied over. So, if I wish to move my TB! installation which now resides on F:\The Bat!, I can copy the directory and it's contents to drive F: on my other machine, create a shortcut to thebat.exe and go? I thought that I would have to do one of two things: Install The Bat! on the other machines drive F: and then synchronize both directories or Simply copy the directories from the original machines drive F: to the recipient machines drive F: and then copy the registry keys over as well. In fact, the program doesn't need to be copied over. If TB! could only use relative paths then it wouldn't mess up on a lot of things it currently breaks on. :/ Exactly. But it doesn't use relative paths and this creates some constraints that one has to work within to prevent problems with the migration. -- Regards, -=Ali=- Oxymoron: Real Magic. *---* Running The Bat! v1.37 Beta/1 in Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Hi all, On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 9:07:32 AM (-5 GMT), Soth scribbled: snip One approach that I've taken _countless_ times and which doesn't involve touching the registry (but which _does_ preserve all the account settings...) is: 1. Reinstall TB! wherever you want it. 2. When it automatically starts running, kill it. 3. Copy all of the ./mail/* stuff over to your new installation 4. Start TB! and then start re-creating your accounts... just specify the folder (if your account name is different than your folder name... if not, you can leave it on default...) This approach does lose things such as your editor preferences, whether or not you have the ticker going, etc... (ie/ the preferences that are global rather than account-specific) but templates, macros, servers, filters, etc. are all saved. What does exporting the registry help save? It prevents your having to recreate all your accounts reselecting your editor and other user preferences and options. -- Regards, -=Ali=- C:\DOS C:\DOS\RUN RUN\DOS\RUN *---* Running The Bat! v1.37 Beta/1 in Windows NT 4.0 (Service Pack 6) *---* -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[3]: Moving from one PC to another
Morning Werner Hintze, I Don't believe this ;-)) I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly.. This is not the problem. Only less important settings are saved in the registry (eg: last used account, window sizes, but also what accounts you have) - generally, all the settings that make ! keeps the look you want. I think there is no reason why this should be kept in the central registry and not a file in !-directory. -- +--Jast |on Windows 98 4.10 Build :with The Bat! 1.36 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Monday, November 15, 1999 Hello Chuck, Sunday, Sunday, November 14, 1999, you wrote: Chuck Okay, I know this has been covered in the past (so my apologies for Chuck asking about "old business"), but it's not been a concern for me Chuck until now ... Chuck As of Monday, I'll have a new PC, and I'll be using that for my Chuck e-mail ... I want to install The Bat! on the new PC and transfer all Chuck settings and existing mail over to the new PC before I scrap the old Chuck one. Chuck What is the most painless (yet complete) way for me to accomplish Chuck this without losing settings, and with the least hassle. Ideally, Chuck when I'm done with the transfer, I'd like everything in place Chuck (settings, tree structure, mail, etc.) just as it is on the current Chuck system. Chuck Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take? ZIP/RAR or if you have acess to person installing stuff, hang the old drive on the new system and copy the bat to the new one. A reinstall of the bat over the copied stuff may help but its not really required except to tell windows you use the bAT. This ease of portability is one of the reasons I use it. REMEMBER: you setup becomes unregistered so you better dig up your registration codes before doing all this. Chuck TIA, Chuck Chuck Chuck =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Chuck Mattsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chuck http://www.mindspring.com/~mattsen Chuck http://www.handtech.com/tcweb/ChuckMattsen Chuck =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Random Thought/Quote for This Post: Chuck A man is only as good as what he loves. Chuck Using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/1 Chuck under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/2 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re: Moving from one PC to another
Sunday, November 14, 1999, 8:15:05 AM, Ali Martin wrote: What does exporting the registry help save? AM It prevents your having to recreate all your accounts AM reselecting your editor and other user preferences and options. Thanks to all who've so far offered their advice on this ... I guess we'll have to see what happens. For those who've advised exporting/importing the registry items associated with The Bat!, is that the key under HKEY_CURRENT_USER | RIT, or something else? ... I took a quick look at that one, and it certainly seems to contain a ton of into. Again, TIA Chuck =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindspring.com/~mattsen http://www.handtech.com/tcweb/ChuckMattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for This Post: Take it as it comes. Using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/2 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another
Monday, November 15, 1999 Hello Steve, Sunday, Sunday, November 14, 1999, you wrote: Steve Sunday, November 14, 1999, 6:12:09 AM, Ali wrote: So, if I wish to move my TB! installation which now resides on F:\The Bat!, I can copy the directory and it's contents to drive F: on my other machine, create a shortcut to thebat.exe and go? Steve You're assuming that both machines have the same drives. At home TB! Steve resides in d:\home\morpheus\bat\. At work it resides on Steve c:\home\morpheus\bat\. Steve What is kept in the registry is just window and editor preferences. Steve Personally I feel nothing should be stored in the registry. After fighting Steve with it after using Unix's rc files I have *NO* clue why they made that utter Steve crap thing. In fact, the program doesn't need to be copied over. If TB! could only use relative paths then it wouldn't mess up on a lot of things it currently breaks on. :/ Exactly. But it doesn't use relative paths and this creates some constraints that one has to work within to prevent problems with the migration. Steve Moving the registry doesn't solve those problems. Personally, moving the Steve registry isn't worth the trouble, IMHO. The only real practical reason to move the registry is if you donot know what the registration key is To recreate 5 mailboxes or whatever which after recreation picks up all the old settings anyway or at least not make me feel I missed anything, only takes a few minutes. As far as I can see most PC's work a lot better by using programs NOT messing around in the registry and if anything goes wrong, no pain either to get a program to run with a reinstalled windows. Its one of the things which for me is a major factor if I want to use a program or not. Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.37 Beta/2 mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTE: 1 MAILRUN PER DAY ONLY -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
Moving from one PC to another
Okay, I know this has been covered in the past (so my apologies for asking about "old business"), but it's not been a concern for me until now ... As of Monday, I'll have a new PC, and I'll be using that for my e-mail ... I want to install The Bat! on the new PC and transfer all settings and existing mail over to the new PC before I scrap the old one. What is the most painless (yet complete) way for me to accomplish this without losing settings, and with the least hassle. Ideally, when I'm done with the transfer, I'd like everything in place (settings, tree structure, mail, etc.) just as it is on the current system. Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take? TIA, Chuck =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Mattsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mindspring.com/~mattsen http://www.handtech.com/tcweb/ChuckMattsen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Random Thought/Quote for This Post: A man is only as good as what he loves. Using The Bat! 1.37 Beta/1 under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --