Re[6]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-17 Thread Roel

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Hello tracer,

t I leave this to someone else to comment on as I havent got the time to
t visit your system (g).
well, as I'm behind 3 proxies  2 firewalls you may need some time...

Roel no, only dos finds the drives...
Roel even worse: if there's no dos in my boot-sector, the bios won't even
Roel recognise the disk... (and that goes for nt as well... I'm forced to
Roel running 95/98 systems...)

t As said, describe motherboard/processor/bios and what linux you used as
t this makes absolutely no sense.
Motherboard: not really sure
 it's an Intel  it supports the pentium 75,90,100  120
 not sure about the chipset...
Processor: intel pentium 75
Linux: SuSe 6.2, sco-unix: 5.03, Beos 4.0
   - They all screw up... only msdos survives...

Roel since it's a rather old motherboard, I'm forced to use 'extended
Roel chs'... lba-mode finds about 500 mb of a 3.1GB disk...
t sounds like this is the reason..
well, the problem occurs before there should be the need for an os:
it happens at system-check... (the bios rejects the drive on startup,
the os doesn't have a clue there is even one...)

t Once you fiddle with the bios, almost any os gets a problem unless you
t use special tools to get at the other part of the drive
I can't even get an error from the os... as the os sits on the
hard-disk that has vanished from the system-check...

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Re[7]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-17 Thread tracer

Wednesday, November 17, 1999

Hello Roel,

Wednesday, Wednesday, November 17, 1999, you wrote:

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Roel Hello tracer,


Roel no, only dos finds the drives...
Roel even worse: if there's no dos in my boot-sector, the bios won't even
Roel recognise the disk... (and that goes for nt as well... I'm forced to
Roel running 95/98 systems...)

t As said, describe motherboard/processor/bios and what linux you used as
t this makes absolutely no sense.
Roel Motherboard: not really sure
Roel  it's an Intel  it supports the pentium 75,90,100  120
As far as I know P60/66/75 and 90 were on one kind of chipset. 100 had
a different board and then 120/133 up had another chipset again. Its a
bit history but I think as sockets where different size unlikely they
all could fit on your board
I have had an Intel p60 in the far past  and never had problems but my
drives were small.
Ok, I have asked a few friends as well if they have any ideas.
I mean if you can run dos it should be possible to get Linux on it (!)

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Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-17 Thread Steve Lamb

Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 10:34:26 PM, tracer wrote:
Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba.  Better use of the hardware.
 But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over
 a network

Samba.  Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network.  :P

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Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-17 Thread Soth

 Tuesday, November 16, 1999, 10:34:26 PM, tracer wrote:
Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba.  Better use of the hardware.
 But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over
 a network

 Samba.  Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network.  :P

Samba.  Sure, build a firewall to keep your intranet secure, and then
run Samba.  Tomorrow, folks, we build submarines with screen doors.

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Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-17 Thread Roel

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SL Samba.  Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network.  :P
Seems like hell :-)




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Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-17 Thread Steve Lamb

Wednesday, November 17, 1999, 6:39:29 AM, Roel wrote:
SL Samba.  Just like connecting Windows to Windows over a network.  :P
 Seems like hell :-)

Better than trying to find a free NFS for Windows.

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Re[7]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-17 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi Soth,

...
S I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add
S sub-folders to the sorting filters?  Their use would be primarily for
S grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to
S lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters.

Not a bad idea. But I give much higher priority to the proposal
to have an import/export facility for filters, which uses a
plain text file format.

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Re[3]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-16 Thread tracer

Tuesday, November 16, 1999

Hello Roel,

Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote:

Roel  \\\|///
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Roel (- O o -)
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Roel Hello tracer,

Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine?  :)
t use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over  or hang the old
t hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you
t need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail
t if you donot do that
Roel use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...)
ok... understood...  never used it that way, I like mail to sit on my
pc!!

Roel here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is
Roel keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders  providing an
Roel internet gateway...
Roel since no program actually runs on it (except a firewall and the
Roel occasional defrag  scandisk) it runs fine... (although I have to
Roel reboot it every 3 days for some unknown reason)
sounds like my kids could loose their p75 (g)

Roel This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the
Roel other 2 pc's :-) )  manage it from every place...

ok, will try that but that means having to network that lot and thats
work in the house...

t One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on
t my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds...
t C only has the MS and OS stuff.
Roel same setup here :-) I just love to see a whole system get up  running
Roel in 15 minutes :-)
100% agreed. Thats one of the services I offer them here, cloned copy
of their proper running system so if they mess it up (g) they can be
back in 15 minutes as it was when they liked it.
Better for me as its hard work recovering stuff, dificult to charge
for and customer unhappy as system isnt the same.
All they have to do is keep added software and make backups of data.
Their system is on a cd as ghost image (well, a few at present...)




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Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-16 Thread tracer

Wednesday, November 17, 1999

Hello Steve,

Wednesday, Wednesday, November 17, 1999, you wrote:

Steve Monday, November 15, 1999, 6:19:33 PM, Roel wrote:
 use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...)

Steve Uhm, sure.  I'll just share my mail folders over the internet.  ;)

 here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is
 keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders  providing an
 internet gateway...

Steve If that is it, run Linux and Samba.  Better use of the hardware.
But not everybody knows how to connect linux and windows together over
a network


 This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the
 other 2 pc's :-) )  manage it from every place...

Steve *cough*  No comment.




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Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-16 Thread Roel

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Hello Steve,

SL Uhm, sure.  I'll just share my mail folders over the internet.  ;)
no, that doesn't happen as I'm working with 2 network-cards here
(cable-modems, you gotta love 'em)
all I have to do to prevent this, is turn off the bindings for 'file 
printer sharing'  'client for microsoft networks' on the network-card
connected to my cable-modem et voila: you can't login anymore :-)

 here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is
 keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders  providing an
 internet gateway...

SL If that is it, run Linux and Samba.  Better use of the hardware.
tried it, linux couldn't find my hard-disks :-( - and as we all know
it's rather difficult to run without one ;)

No really, this was my original idea, but some weird problem (not
solely linux, also sco-unix and beos can't find it...)
therefore, I'm condemned to running windows...

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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-15 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

  Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, I wasn't assuming anything. I was just asking a specific question.

 In your question was the assumption of there being the possibility of
 putting things on the same drive.

I am aware that it was possible to copy to a different drive. I was
just asking about my particular situation where both machines in my
home have F: drives where apps are installed.

 BTW, things become a little complicated when your home directory is
 not in the default location.

 What home directory.  Come now, Ali, we both know that Windows doesn't
 have home directories.  That's a Unixism.

In The Bat!, open the account properties, and select File and
Directories. There you'll see the home directory to which I'm
referring.

 Well, if you are moving to another drive then it's not worth it. If
 you're moving to the same drive so that the paths remain the same then
 it's less trouble to move it than, redoing all the settings.

 I still isn't worth it since ancillary information may be located
 differently on each machine.

If the ancillary information aren't located differently and both
installations will be identical as may occur if you wish to do a clean
reinstall on your system, or if you are transferring to the same
partition on the other machine, then backing up the registry key saves
you the trouble of reconfiguring and re-registering. What's this
aversion with backing up a registry key and restoring it on another
machine which will use the same configuration? This is entirely
possible and far from unusual.

I'm simply delineating the possible benefit of transferring the
registry settings. I do acknowledge that it's possible to do a
transfer without carrying over registry keys and that transferring the
registry keys would be pointless if you are copying to a different
drive or plan to use a different configuration.

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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-15 Thread Steve Lamb

Monday, November 15, 1999, 9:02:56 AM, Ali wrote:
 In The Bat!, open the account properties, and select File and
 Directories. There you'll see the home directory to which I'm
 referring.

Funny, why do you think I said TB! should use relative paths, not
absolute.  I forced it to be relative and it works just fine.

 What's this aversion with backing up a registry key and restoring it on
 another machine which will use the same configuration? This is entirely
 possible and far from unusual.

Because in my experience no machine of mine at home or work has ever used
the same configuration.  They always vary in some form or another.

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Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-15 Thread Jast

Morning Steve Lamb,

 2: Even if you do know you don't feel like typing it all out (no tab
 completion) or going through the registry editor.

 A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you
 only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and
 you only have to enter the password

 Exactly.  Install a Unix variant, get rid of that pesky registry.

 If only I could... I agree the registry concept is thoroughly fucked
 up. Only global settings should be stored in a global database, why
 do all the Windows programmers not seem to follow this simple concept?
 It really only makes reinstalling Windows a heck of a hassle. Excuse
 my venting.


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OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-15 Thread Steve Lamb

Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote:
  A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you
  only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and
  you only have to enter the password

How am I going to access that message on the new machine?  :)

 Exactly.  Install a Unix variant, get rid of that pesky registry.

  If only I could... I agree the registry concept is thoroughly fucked
  up. Only global settings should be stored in a global database, why
  do all the Windows programmers not seem to follow this simple concept?
  It really only makes reinstalling Windows a heck of a hassle. Excuse
  my venting.

Because Windows is still considered a single-user environment and people
don't move from one machine to the other.  This is quickly becoming not the
case as computers become more pervasive.  To think, Unix got it right 20-30
years ago yet there are still people who don't get it when others say that
Microsoft has seriously stifled innovation.  :)

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Re[4]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-15 Thread Soth





Re[5]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-15 Thread Roel

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could you resend your last two messages: they showed up with nothing
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Re[6]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-15 Thread Soth

This is my second attempt... I'll skip the first message -- the topic
has been beaten to death. ;-)

But, here's the second topic... my brilliant idea. ;-)

Subj: Idea for sorting office

I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add
sub-folders to the sorting filters?  Their use would be primarily for
grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to
lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters.  The big
question, IMHO, would be how would these affect the order in which the
filters are processed?  I think, tho', that this won't pose too big a
problem if we assume that in any folder (including the root folder for
that set of filters), we can intermix folders and filters (instead of
all filters first or all filters last):
1. Filter A
2. Folder B
3. Filter C

then the processing would be: filter A, all the filters in folder B,
filter C.

Anyhow, what do you think?

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Re[7]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-15 Thread Roel

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Hello Soth,

S But, here's the second topic... my brilliant idea. ;-)
S Subj: Idea for sorting office

S I was wondering what you all thought about the ability to add
S sub-folders to the sorting filters?  Their use would be primarily for
S grouping related filters together... of course, this would tend to
S lending the ability to disable and enable groups of filters.
well, they kinda exist: just use 'alternatives'...
  drawback: only usefull if the exact same action can be
  performed... 

S The big question, IMHO, would be how would these affect the order
S snip ...
S Anyhow, what do you think?
well, i like the idea  i do think many people (including myself)
would be happy with it...
It sure would make filter-organizing much easier...


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Re: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-15 Thread tracer

Tuesday, November 16, 1999

Hello Steve,

Tuesday, Tuesday, November 16, 1999, you wrote:

Steve Monday, November 15, 1999, 12:23:46 PM, Jast wrote:
  A reason to keep the message you got it with... in which case you
  only have to select it and the key gets inserted automatically and
  you only have to enter the password

Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine?  :)
use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over  or hang the old
hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you
need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail
if you donot do that

One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on
my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds...
C only has the MS and OS stuff.


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Re[2]: OT: Windows Registry (Was: Moving from one PC to another)

1999-11-15 Thread Roel

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Hello tracer,

Steve How am I going to access that message on the new machine?  :)
t use GHOST, you can clone the whole hard disk over  or hang the old
t hard disk on the new machine and copy the bat and whatever else you
t need to the new drive. I mean how are you going to keep any old mail
t if you donot do that
use network-folders (just share your mail-folder over the network...)

here, i've got an old p75 with 16mb running w98v2 and all it does is
keep backups of files, keeping my message-folders  providing an
internet gateway...
since no program actually runs on it (except a firewall and the
occasional defrag  scandisk) it runs fine... (although I have to
reboot it every 3 days for some unknown reason)

This way, i can access my mail all across my home-network (well, the
other 2 pc's :-) )  manage it from every place...

t One of the reasons anyway I have the bat with other internet stuff on
t my E-Drive and if C dies/gets corrupted, who minds...
t C only has the MS and OS stuff.
same setup here :-) I just love to see a whole system get up  running
in 15 minutes :-)

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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 1:26:01 AM (-5 GMT), Werner scribbled:

 Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take?

 Move the contents of the program directory and all subdirectories to
 the new PC. That's all.

He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it  in his
new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function
properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory
to a drive of the same name as on the old machine.

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Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Werner Hintze

On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 12:08:42 PM Ali Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it  in his
 new machines registry.

I Don't believe this ;-))

I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my
notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without
synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly...

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Re[3]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Philippe Gouillou

Bonjour,

Sunday, November 14, 1999, 1:16:16 PM (in UTC +0100), Werner Hintze wrote:

  
  WH On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 12:08:42 PM Ali Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it  in his
 new machines registry.

WH I Don't believe this ;-))

WH I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my
WH notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without
WH synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly...

Well : I have exactly the same need at the same date (monday).

The solution I've choosen :

#1 Install  completely  The  Bat!  on  the  new  machine (from the
   downloaded file : to be sure all the registry keys will be ok)
   
#2  Copy of the entire directory and subdirectories of The Bat! on
the new directory created by the installation

I suppose everything will be ok then

Any comments or advices ?

  A bientôt,

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Re[4]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Andreas Rumpenhorst

Hello Philippe,  Hamburg/GER, Sunday, November 14, 1999

in your mail dated Sunday, November 14, 1999, 13:49,
you whispered something about "Moving from one PC to another":

PG I suppose everything will be ok then

To be SURE, everything will be okay you can create two batch files, to save
your TB-registry-settings and to restore them on the new computer. They
look as follows:

SAVESETTINGS.BAT:
 @remThis batch file saves The Bat! settings from the registry
 @remto file TBSave.reg

 regedit /e TBSave.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT

 
RESTORESETTINGS.BAT:
 @remThis batch file restores The Bat! settings from previously saved
 @remfile TBSave.reg to the registry

 regedit TBSave.reg


Good luck!

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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 7:16:16 AM (-5 GMT), Werner scribbled:

 He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it  in his
 new machines registry.

 I Don't believe this ;-))

 I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my
 notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without
 synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly...

I don't think that proves your point.

If I were to move my The Bat! directory to another partition and
simply update my shortcuts, The Bat! will function properly then? If
this is true then you would be correct.

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Re[5]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Philippe Gouillou

Bonjour,

Sunday, November 14, 1999, 2:03:51 PM (in UTC +0100), Andreas Rumpenhorst wrote:



AR Good luck!

Thank you : I'll use this also !



  A bientôt,

Philippe

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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Steve Lamb

Sunday, November 14, 1999, 3:08:42 AM, Ali wrote:
 He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it  in his
 new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function
 properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory
 to a drive of the same name as on the old machine.

The registry doesn't need to be copied over.  In fact, the program doesn't
need to be copied over.  If TB! could only use relative paths then it wouldn't
mess up on a lot of things it currently breaks on.  :/

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Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Soth

 Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take?

 Move the contents of the program directory and all subdirectories to
 the new PC. That's all.

 He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it  in his
 new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function
 properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory
 to a drive of the same name as on the old machine.

One approach that I've taken _countless_ times and which doesn't involve
touching the registry (but which _does_ preserve all the account
settings...) is:
1. Reinstall TB! wherever you want it.
2. When it automatically starts running, kill it.
3. Copy all of the ./mail/* stuff over to your new installation
4. Start TB! and then start re-creating your accounts... just specify
   the folder (if your account name is different than your folder
   name... if not, you can leave it on default...)

This approach does lose things such as your editor preferences, whether
or not you have the ticker going, etc... (ie/ the preferences that are
global rather than account-specific) but templates, macros, servers,
filters, etc. are all saved.

What does exporting the registry help save?

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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 8:22:47 AM (-5 GMT), Steve scribbled:

 He needs to export the registry key for The Bat! and import it  in his
 new machines registry. In order for the registry keys to function
 properly, he should also make sure that he copies The Bat! directory
 to a drive of the same name as on the old machine.

 The registry doesn't need to be copied over.

So, if I wish to move my TB! installation which now resides on F:\The
Bat!, I can copy the directory and it's contents to drive F: on my
other machine, create a shortcut to thebat.exe and go?

I thought that I would have to do one of two things:

Install The Bat! on the other machines drive F: and then synchronize
both directories

or

Simply copy the directories from the original machines drive F: to the
recipient machines drive F: and then copy the registry keys over as
well.

 In fact, the program doesn't need to be copied over. If TB! could
 only use relative paths then it wouldn't mess up on a lot of things
 it currently breaks on. :/

Exactly. But it doesn't use relative paths and this creates some
constraints that one has to work within to prevent problems with the
migration.

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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Ali Martin

Hi all,

On Sunday, November 14, 1999, 9:07:32 AM (-5 GMT), Soth scribbled:

snip
 One approach that I've taken _countless_ times and which doesn't involve
 touching the registry (but which _does_ preserve all the account
 settings...) is:
 1. Reinstall TB! wherever you want it.
 2. When it automatically starts running, kill it.
 3. Copy all of the ./mail/* stuff over to your new installation
 4. Start TB! and then start re-creating your accounts... just specify
the folder (if your account name is different than your folder
name... if not, you can leave it on default...)

 This approach does lose things such as your editor preferences, whether
 or not you have the ticker going, etc... (ie/ the preferences that are
 global rather than account-specific) but templates, macros, servers,
 filters, etc. are all saved.

 What does exporting the registry help save?

It prevents your having to recreate all your accounts reselecting your
editor and other user preferences and options.

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Re[3]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Jast

Morning Werner Hintze,

 I Don't believe this ;-))
 
 I use The Bat at home on my big computer and when I'm away on my
 notebook. I synchronize the directories for The Bat, without
 synchronizing the registry too. And it works perfectly..

 This is not the problem. Only less important settings are saved in
 the registry (eg: last used account, window sizes, but also what
 accounts you have) - generally, all the settings that make ! keeps the
 look you want.

 I think there is no reason why this should be kept in the central
 registry and not a file in !-directory.


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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread tracer

Monday, November 15, 1999

Hello Chuck,

Sunday, Sunday, November 14, 1999, you wrote:

Chuck Okay, I know this has been covered in the past (so my apologies for
Chuck asking about "old business"), but it's not been a concern for me
Chuck until now ...

Chuck As of Monday, I'll have a new PC, and I'll be using that for my
Chuck e-mail ... I want to install The Bat! on the new PC and transfer all
Chuck settings and existing mail over to the new PC before I scrap the old
Chuck one.

Chuck What is the most painless (yet complete) way for me to accomplish
Chuck this without losing settings, and with the least hassle.  Ideally,
Chuck when I'm done with the transfer, I'd like everything in place
Chuck (settings, tree structure, mail, etc.) just as it is on the current
Chuck system.

Chuck Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take?
ZIP/RAR or if you have acess to person installing stuff, hang the old
drive on the new system and copy the bat to the new one.
A reinstall of the bat over the copied stuff may help but its not
really required except to tell windows you use the bAT.
This ease of portability is one of the reasons I use it.
REMEMBER: you setup becomes unregistered so you better dig up your
registration codes before doing all this.

Chuck TIA,

Chuck Chuck
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Re: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread Chuck Mattsen

Sunday, November 14, 1999, 8:15:05 AM, Ali Martin wrote:

 What does exporting the registry help save?

AM It prevents your having to recreate all your accounts
AM reselecting your editor and other user preferences and options.

Thanks to all who've so far offered their advice on this ... I guess
we'll have to see what happens.

For those who've advised exporting/importing the registry items
associated with The Bat!, is that the key under HKEY_CURRENT_USER |
RIT, or something else? ... I took a quick look at that one, and it
certainly seems to contain a ton of into.

Again, TIA

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Re[2]: Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-14 Thread tracer

Monday, November 15, 1999

Hello Steve,

Sunday, Sunday, November 14, 1999, you wrote:

Steve Sunday, November 14, 1999, 6:12:09 AM, Ali wrote:
 So, if I wish to move my TB! installation which now resides on F:\The
 Bat!, I can copy the directory and it's contents to drive F: on my
 other machine, create a shortcut to thebat.exe and go?

Steve You're assuming that both machines have the same drives.  At home TB!
Steve resides in d:\home\morpheus\bat\.  At work it resides on
Steve c:\home\morpheus\bat\.

Steve What is kept in the registry is just window and editor preferences.
Steve Personally I feel nothing should be stored in the registry.  After fighting
Steve with it after using Unix's rc files I have *NO* clue why they made that utter
Steve crap thing.

 In fact, the program doesn't need to be copied over. If TB! could
 only use relative paths then it wouldn't mess up on a lot of things
 it currently breaks on. :/

 Exactly. But it doesn't use relative paths and this creates some
 constraints that one has to work within to prevent problems with the
 migration.

Steve Moving the registry doesn't solve those problems.  Personally, moving the
Steve registry isn't worth the trouble, IMHO.
The only real practical reason to move the registry is if you donot
know what the registration key is
To recreate 5 mailboxes or whatever which after recreation picks up
all the old settings anyway or at least not make me feel I missed
anything, only takes a few minutes.
As far as I can see most PC's work a lot better by using programs NOT
messing around in the registry and if anything goes wrong, no pain
either to get a program to run with a reinstalled windows.
Its one of the things  which for me is a major factor if I want to use
a program or not.




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Moving from one PC to another

1999-11-13 Thread Chuck Mattsen

Okay, I know this has been covered in the past (so my apologies for
asking about "old business"), but it's not been a concern for me
until now ...

As of Monday, I'll have a new PC, and I'll be using that for my
e-mail ... I want to install The Bat! on the new PC and transfer all
settings and existing mail over to the new PC before I scrap the old
one.

What is the most painless (yet complete) way for me to accomplish
this without losing settings, and with the least hassle.  Ideally,
when I'm done with the transfer, I'd like everything in place
(settings, tree structure, mail, etc.) just as it is on the current
system.

Is this easily do-able and, if so, what steps do I need to take?

TIA,

Chuck
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