Re: New filter does not move message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 27 Oct 2004, @ @ at 02:33:58 +0100, when MFPA wrote: Hi On Tuesday, 26 October, 2004, at 3:13:52 PM, Michael Geyer wrote: That's one of the effects of a missing cancel button in NFS - if I'm allowed to throw in this thought :-) I have never been able to find a cancel button in OLD filter system. If there is an interest to know this, an esoteric move (in both FS) replacing the function of the missing cancel button is pushing ESC button. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :happypiglet: [Earth LOG: 56 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBf4Dv9q62QPd3XuIRAtCKAJ4wBSM0JEMVqysYvGmHgCI8M8E5awCgmF+k iHYmosa0REOT8rjWLL9BzVk= =D42z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hello Mica, If there is an interest to know this, an esoteric move (in both FS) replacing the function of the missing cancel button is pushing ESC button. ESC does _not_ cancel every addition, deletion or change done since opening the Sorting Office. Not at all. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hello Miguel! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 8:51 AM, you wrote: MM ... replacing the function of the missing cancel button is MM pushing ESC button. M ESC does _not_ cancel every addition, deletion or change done since M opening the Sorting Office. Not at all. I have just put a note to the Bugtracker Report on this issue, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3557 Please support? With a note of your own? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hello Mary, Please support? With a note of your own? I am sure Rit guys are well aware of this need, what probably happens is that it may not be as easy to implement as we may think. See my Oct. 16th mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on TBBeta. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hello Allie, On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:02:48 -0500 GMT (26/10/2004, 20:02 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: FWIW, I reviewed all my filters and found I had a filter named New Rule that had no conditions and no actions. I have since deleted it, so maybe that was the source of the problem. AM I'm not sure how such a filter would work, if it would match messages AM even though no matching parameters/criteria were defined. I had one such filter inadvertedly created during my testing of this new TB version. Header matches or something like that, don't remember the exact details. Made subsequent filters not catch, and many mails ended up in the Inbox. It happens. Filters by the name of New Rule are usually a dead giveaway BTW. -- Cheers, Thomas. Amuse yourself for endless hours by hooking a camcorder to your TV and then pointing it at the screen. Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hello Miguel! On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 10:04 AM, you wrote: MB Please support? With a note of your own? M I am sure Rit guys are well aware of this need, what probably M happens is that it may not be as easy to implement as we may think. M See my Oct. 16th mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on M TBBeta. Okay. I get your point. Sending a cup of coffee your way, as I slept late and the fresh pot is still hot, here. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.0.2.1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hello Mary, Okay. I get your point. Sending a cup of coffee your way, as I slept late and the fresh pot is still hot, here. :) Delicious coffee, as usual :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 27 Oct 2004, @ @ at 15:51:59 +0200, when MAU wrote: Hello Mica, If there is an interest to know this, an esoteric move (in both FS) replacing the function of the missing cancel button is pushing ESC button. ESC does _not_ cancel every addition, deletion or change done since opening the Sorting Office. Not at all. True. I missed to add that it _doesn't_ work always. (-: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :happypiglet: [Earth LOG: 56 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBf8ZR9q62QPd3XuIRAq9nAJwO3YpAJXzOYjx2EFzCzvAFx8WT3gCgihZD QREz2NDjRhRA1dT4DafaP/8= =uOVD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Folks, the filter does NOT move the message as it is intended to. Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? 'Cos no one seemed to have noticed when TB was beta tested! Or no one chose to do anything about it after beta test. Join the 'my filters don't work' club! -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.21.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hello Perry, Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? I'm not sure if this may be the problem but why don't you try changing: Sender contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] to Header_field From: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi MAU, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 5:14:08 AM, you wrote: M I'm not sure if this may be the problem but why don't you try changing: M Sender contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] M to M Header_field From: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it was filtered, but the message isn't moved. Thanks for your suggestion. Here's the way the filter looks now. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [E65F6592.01C4BB04.04189CD4.4FFCA226] Name: Yahoo!\20Groups\20Notification Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cp_nelson\5CIntermittent\20contact\5CNELA IsActive Ignore endFilter -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi admin, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 4:43:37 AM, you wrote: aacu Join the 'my filters don't work' club! ... like the man who had been tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. When asked how he was feeling, the victim said that if it weren't for the honor of the thing, he would just as soon have walked. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Mon 25-Oct-04 10:01pm -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? Can't confirm. I copied and pasted your filter and only changed the target folder to one of my subfolders. Next, I sent myself a message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The test mail was moved properly to my target folder. Are you sure that your folder exists? Try this. Right click on a message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and select Test Filters. Check Incoming mail, uncheck everything else and click OK. What does the dialog say? -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
ON Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:34:35 PM, you wrote: PN Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it PN was filtered, but the message isn't moved. Hi Perry, Could you try adding to the filter the set flag action or something similar. You should have both the Move to folder as the set flag action. This is just to make sure you are looking at the correct mail to be filtered. If the flag is not set and the mail is not moved have a look at your inbox to see if an other mail had its flag set. If the flag gets set and the mail is not moved the only thing I can think of is that the folder doesn't exist. Let us know :-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I've had a good day when I don't fall out of the cart. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Gerard, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 7:14:49 AM, you wrote: G Could you try adding to the filter the set flag action or something G similar. You should have both the Move to folder as the set flag G action. An excellent idea!! I'm so enthusiastic because I had thought of it too previously. ;-) I have a color group called Mark Temporarily that has a red background and yellow text. So I added that action to the filter, leaving the move to folder action as well of course, and the filter reports that the message was filtered, but the message is neither moved nor turned red/yellow. Strange. G If the flag gets set and the mail is not moved the only thing I can G think of is that the folder doesn't exist. Well, the flag (i.e. color group) isn't set and the mail isn't moved, and believe it or not the folder DOES exist. I selected it from the list of folders when I created the filter. So I'm still stumped. However, thanks for pondering my problem. Feel free to suggest anything else that comes to mind. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Bill, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 7:12:56 AM, you wrote: BM Can't confirm. I copied and pasted your filter and only changed the BM target folder to one of my subfolders. Next, I sent myself a message BM from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The test mail was moved properly to my BM target folder. Thanks for experimenting with it. The only difference I notice in our setups that you are using the Pro version of The Bat! (I am using the Home version) and the BayesIT! plugin that I am NOT using. We are both using XP Pro with SP2. BM Are you sure that your folder exists? Yes, I selected it from the list of folders when I created the filter. BM Try this. Right click on a message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and BM select Test Filters. Check Incoming mail, uncheck everything BM else and click OK. BM What does the dialog say? It says, Processed by: New Rule. Actions performed: What does that tell us? Does the fact that nothing follows the Actions performed: portion indicate that no actions were performed, which is consistent with what I am seeing? If you perform you own test on your copy of my filter, do you get the same message that I get or something else? -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Perry and list, On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 07:55:03 GMT -0400 (which was 13:55 where I live) Perry Nelson wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of New filter does not move message: [Test filters] It says, Processed by: New Rule. Actions performed: What does that tell us? Does the fact that nothing follows the Actions performed: portion indicate that no actions were performed, which is consistent with what I am seeing? If you perform you own test on your copy of my filter, do you get the same message that I get or something else? Have a look at your filters - the account filters as well as the common filters as those are processed before any account filter. The test displays tells, there is a filter named New rule by which your message was processed. Action performed: without any more indicator means there is no action associated to this filter. May be that filter is a remaining result of some experimenting. If this New rule is not marked as continue processing that behavior would perfectly fit with the results you get. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.2.1, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Michael, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 8:08:51 AM, you wrote: MG Action performed: without any more indicator means there is no MG action associated to this filter. May be that filter is a remaining MG result of some experimenting. Thanks for your input. As I read the flow chart view of the filters there ARE actions specified on the Actions tab, and from reading the filter itself (see below), it appears that actions are specified. MG If this New rule is not marked as continue processing that MG behavior would perfectly fit with the results you get. I have checked continue processing despite the fact that this filter is the last in my list of filters. I don't have any common filters. The results are the same. Here's the latest version of the filter. TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [E65F6592.01C4BB04.04189CD4.4FFCA226] Name: Yahoo!\20Groups\20Notification Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cp_nelson\5CIntermittent\20contact\5CNELA IsContinue IsActive Ignore endFilter Do you (or anyone else) know what the Ignore condition is on this filter? I've checked in the edit dialog for this filter and don't see where that is specified. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 5:34:35 AM [GMT -0500], Perry Nelson wrote: Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it was filtered, but the message isn't moved. .. but filtered by what? Are you sure it's being filtered by the correct filter and that another filter isn't getting at it first? I'd try putting the problem filter at the top of the filter list and try again. -- -= Allie =- . Political panjandrums prologize pedantic paronomasia. __ IMAP [ Client: The Bat! v3.0.1.33 | Server: MDaemon Pro ] OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Allie, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 8:26:23 AM, you wrote: AM I'd try putting the problem filter at the top of the filter list and AM try again. Eureka! That did it. The message is now moved. However, that poses a question. Must all new filters be moved to the top of the list? FWIW, I reviewed all my filters and found I had a filter named New Rule that had no conditions and no actions. I have since deleted it, so maybe that was the source of the problem. Thanks for your input. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 7:39:25 AM [GMT -0500], Perry Nelson wrote: Eureka! That did it. The message is now moved. :) Ok. I'm not surprised since the filter was so simple and really aught to work, provided the intended message actually gets to the filter. However, that poses a question. Must all new filters be moved to the top of the list? Not really. The key to controlling your filtering is to understand that each message is passed along the chain of filters starting from the one at the top of the filter list and working downwards. As soon as the message matches a filter, that matching filter takes the message, does it's thing with the message, and the message is *discarded from any further filtering* unless the matching filter has the 'continue processing with other filters' switch enabled. So if your filter isn't working, and you're sure it's correctly constructed, you have to wonder if some other filter has caught your message. Some other filter further up the filter list. So your new filter doesn't have to be at the top of the list if you know that the messages it's supposed to filter will not be caught by another filter. FWIW, I reviewed all my filters and found I had a filter named New Rule that had no conditions and no actions. I have since deleted it, so maybe that was the source of the problem. I'm not sure how such a filter would work, if it would match messages even though no matching parameters/criteria were defined. Thanks for your input. You're welcome. :) -- -= Allie =- . If at first you don't succeed, work for Microsoft. __ IMAP [ Client: The Bat! v3.0.1.33 | Server: MDaemon Pro ] OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 5:34:35 AM, (Internet Time - @482) you wrote: Hello Perry, PN Done. However, the outcome is the same. The dialog reports that it PN was filtered, but the message isn't moved. PN Thanks for your suggestion. Here's the way the filter looks now. PN TB! Message Filter PN beginFilter PN UID: [E65F6592.01C4BB04.04189CD4.4FFCA226] PN Name: Yahoo!\20Groups\20Notification PN Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PN MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cp_nelson\5CIntermittent\20contact\5CNELA PN IsActive PN Ignore PN endFilter PN I think I had this same problem with the filter only doing one message. What I believe I did was to Highlight all the messages and run the filter again. I am not for sure, but I think it worked. But you are correct. I have seen that many times when I try to re-filter a folder. Seems like it never works for me when I do it manually, but when just doing normal operations, the filter works fine. Hope this helps... -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Individually, ants are stupid. Together, they're brilliANT. pgpilD58GEJAb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Perry and list, On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 08:28:17 GMT -0400 (which was 14:28 where I live) Perry Nelson wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of New filter does not move message: Thanks for your input. You're welcome :-) As I read the flow chart view of the filters there ARE actions specified on the Actions tab, and from reading the filter itself (see below), it appears that actions are specified. Mmmm - lookout for a filter with the name New rule. My guess is _that_ one is the offending one, not the actual one which is named Name: Yahoo!\20Groups\20Notification (Yahoo! Groups Notification) I have checked continue processing despite the fact that this filter is the last in my list of filters. In the filter New rule or your Yahoo! Groups Notification filter? Remember: My guess is: there is a filter New rule which prevents the Yahoo filter from catching yout message. I don't have any common filters. That rules out that possible cause for failing. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.2.1, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.845 beta, and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
ON Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 1:43:57 PM, you wrote: PN Hi Gerard, PN Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 7:14:49 AM, you wrote: G Could you try adding to the filter the set flag action or something G similar. You should have both the Move to folder as the set flag G action. PN An excellent idea!! I'm so enthusiastic because I had thought of it PN too previously. ;-) Well thank you :-) PN Well, the flag (i.e. color group) isn't set and the mail isn't moved, PN and believe it or not the folder DOES exist. I selected it from the PN list of folders when I created the filter. So I'm still stumped. Hi Perry, I see that you already found the cause of the problem, but just to finish this up, since the color group was not set you must then assume that the filter was not triggered. This can because by the criteria not being fulfilled or in your case the filter is never applied. At least we all learned something ;-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I don't enjoy playing video golf because there is nothing to throw. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Michael, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 9:15:20 AM, you wrote: MG My guess is: there is a filter New rule which prevents the MG Yahoo filter from catching your message. Right you are, Michael! I'm sure you've seen by now that I discovered that rule and have since deleted it ... and now my life is once again total bliss. Well at least as far as The Bat! is concerned, that is. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Allie, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 9:02:48 AM, you wrote: AM So your new filter doesn't have to be at the top of the list if you AM know that the messages it's supposed to filter will not be caught by AM another filter. I'm convinced my problem was caused by the New Rule filter mentioned below. Here's why. When I deleted that filter with its default settings, a couple of other filters that were below it and were not working DID work when I refiltered the Inbox. FWIW, I reviewed all my filters and found I had a filter named New Rule that had no conditions and no actions. I have since deleted it, so maybe that was the source of the problem. AM I'm not sure how such a filter would work, if it would match messages AM even though no matching parameters/criteria were defined. Intuitively, one would expect that if there were no parameters specified in a filter then nothing would match it, however that does not appear to be the case. As I'm sure you realize, the New Rule filter is simply the default setup when you start creating a new filter and then move off it without making any changes. It doesn't, by default, have continue processing checked. Perhaps the programmers might code against user error by having The Bat! issue a warning when the user accidentally exits a new filter without making any changes, such as specifying conditions. Or they might be able to code things so that such a rule would not process ANY message, sort of like the medical admonition to do no harm. I should have had a clue that the filter that was acting on this message was NOT the filter I had defined since that one was titled, Yahoo! Groups Notification and Bill McCarthy's suggestion to test it yielded the result that the messages were processed by New Rule. But I didn't. We live and learn I suppose. Thanks to everyone who contributed ideas in helping me resolve this issue. -- Regards, Perry If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style. -- Quinton Crisp Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Gerard, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 9:27:46 AM, you wrote: G At least we all learned something ;-) Indeed. One of my favorite taglines is the best thing about a mistake is the joy it brings to others. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Perry and list, On Tuesday, October 26, 2004 at 09:35:39 GMT -0400 (which was 15:35 where I live) Perry Nelson wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of New filter does not move message: Right you are, Michael! I'm sure you've seen by now that I discovered that rule and have since deleted it ... That's one of the effects of a missing cancel button in NFS - if I'm allowed to throw in this thought :-) and now my life is once again total bliss. Well at least as far as The Bat! is concerned, that is. Glad to see you could get help here! -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.0.2.1, Useless Macro Collection 1.8.888 rc1, and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tue 26-Oct-04 6:55am -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: It says, Processed by: New Rule. Actions performed: What does that tell us? Does the fact that nothing follows the Actions performed: portion indicate that no actions were performed, which is consistent with what I am seeing? If you perform you own test on your copy of my filter, do you get the same message that I get or something else? What that tells us is that your filter is not being triggered at all. Instead, another filter called New Rule is being triggered - which performs no action - and no additional filters are being triggered. In my test, the window specifies that my test filter is triggered and the move to folder action is performed - which it indeed is. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Bill, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:04:06 PM, you wrote: BM What that tells us is that your filter is not being triggered at BM all. Instead, another filter called New Rule is being triggered - BM which performs no action - and no additional filters are being BM triggered. This process has been instructive to me, thanks to you and the others. As I'm sure you have already seen, I did discover the New Role filter and deleted it. Once that was done, my filter (and a couple of others) performed as expected. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tue 26-Oct-04 11:13am -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: As I'm sure you have already seen, I did discover the New Role filter and deleted it. Once that was done, my filter (and a couple of others) performed as expected. I have now read the thread and am confused by your comment in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have checked continue processing despite the fact that this filter is the last in my list of filters. I don't have any common filters. The results are the same. Whether or not you checked continue processing, the fact that your New Rule filter is the last filter AND it performs no action means that your filters should not perform any differently whether New Rule is present or not. It appears to make no sense that deleting solved any problem. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi Bill, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 12:50:27 PM, you wrote: BM I have now read the thread and am confused by your comment in BM mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: PN I have checked continue processing despite the fact that this PN filter is the last in my list of filters. I don't have any common PN filters. The results are the same. BM Whether or not you checked continue processing, the fact that your BM New Rule filter is the last filter AND it performs no action means BM that your filters should not perform any differently whether New BM Rule is present or not. It appears to make no sense that deleting BM solved any problem. Let me see if I can clarify because I think the two filters are being confused (no doubt because of my sloppy writing in the message you cite). The filter I created and asked for help with was Yahoo! Groups Notification (YGN, for short). There was another filter however, New Rule (NR, for short), that I didn't discover until later. YGN was the last filter in the list, and NR was farther up the list where I couldn't see it until I started from the top and scanned downward. In the passage you quote from me I was referring to the fact that I had checked continue processing in YGN, not in NR. At Allie's suggestion I moved YGN to the top of the list and when I did that, it moved my message as it should have. That caused me to look for another filter in my list that might have been operating on the message before it got to my YGN filter, which incidentally your suggestion to test the filter should have also alerted me to do. I found NR and after I deleted it (NR) other filters, not yet mentioned but which were also below NR, moved a couple of messages that were still in my Inbox. Does that clear up the sequence? -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
On Tue 26-Oct-04 3:42pm -0400, Perry Nelson wrote: Does that clear up the sequence? Yes :-) I'm glad your filters are now working as expected. -- Best regards, Bill The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Pro - BayesIt! 0.7.3 - XP Pro SP2 - POP3 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New filter does not move message
Hi On Tuesday, 26 October, 2004, at 3:13:52 PM, Michael Geyer wrote: That's one of the effects of a missing cancel button in NFS - if I'm allowed to throw in this thought :-) I have never been able to find a cancel button in OLD filter system. -- Best regards, MFPAmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New filter does not move message
Hi Folks, Over the weekend I upgraded my system to the latest version of The Bat! Tonight I created a new filter, that I've copied and pasted below, with the simple intent to move such messages in the future to a folder under one of my accounts. However, when I refilter the Inbox, the dialog indicates that one message was filtered, but the filter does NOT move the message as it is intended to. Can any of you offer a suggestion as to why this filter doesn't work? TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [E65F6592.01C4BB04.04189CD4.4FFCA226] Name: Yahoo!\20Groups\20Notification Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cp_nelson\5CIntermittent\20contact\5CNELA IsActive Ignore endFilter -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
