Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 8:30:55 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 encryption standard in order to increase security. Ritlabs - grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this week. Looks like those features have now been added in TB 6.1.4; see What's New dated 12/20/2013, which notes, in part: - New features TLS 1.1 SSL 3.0 [...] Improvements Faster message retrieval over POP3 with large volumes of messages kept on the [...] Fixes TLS connections with some servers didn't work. - Apart from my send problem, solved by MFPA, I shall be particularly interested in faster message retrieval. I've found TB's relatively slow pick-up frustrating, compared to the rapidity of some other programs. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 8:30:55 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: Hi, on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:01:31 +GMT (18.12.2013, 01:01 +0100GMT here), Robert Bull wrote: RB Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 RB access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything RB worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. RB ... Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 encryption standard in order to increase security. Ritlabs - grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this week. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Sunday, December 22, 2013, 8:16:20 PM, Robert Bull wrote: On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 8:30:55 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: Sorry, don't know how I sent a blank reply, fumble fingers I suppose. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.4 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Thursday, December 19, 2013, 12:54:39 AM, MFPA wrote: The following SMTP settings work for one of my @yahoo.uk accounts:- SMTP Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk Connection: Secure to regular port STARTTLS Port: 587 Authentication: Perform SMTP Authorisation (RFC 2554) same user/password as for mail retreival This seems to work for me, too. Many thanks! :) One test msg got lost in the electronic ether, but other test msgs were sent and rec'd correctly. I no longer get the error messages on attempted send. Thanks again, -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi, on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 00:01:31 +GMT (18.12.2013, 01:01 +0100GMT here), Robert Bull wrote: RB Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 RB access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything RB worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. RB ... Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 encryption standard in order to increase security. Ritlabs - grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this week. -- Cheers Peter Cannot open file c:\Programme\The Bat!\Cookies\tbcookies.txt Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi, on Wed, 18 Dec 2013 09:30:55 +0100GMT I wrote: PM ... PM Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have PM decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 PM encryption standard in order to increase security. Ritlabs - PM grinding their teeth - have agreed to implement it in the upcoming PM release version of The Bat! which is supposed to be available this PM week. I overlooked that it is already released: ,- [ mid:1392884492.20131218005...@ritlabs.com ] | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_6-1-0-2.msi | http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_6-1-0-2.msi `- -- Cheers Peter Originality is the art of concealing your sources. Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 9:36:01 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have PM decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 PM I overlooked that it is already released: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_6-1-0-2.msi Thanks for the pointer! But... it's not only a paid upgrade for me (I did), but it suffers from the same problem :(( So, either RITlabs didn't fix the problem in this version, or, much more likely, Yahoo! UK caused some *other* obstacle to progress. I received an automated acknowledgement of a submission for help to Yahoo Customer Care 48 hours ago, but so far, no actual help. Maybe I'll have to contact RITlabs direct. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 9:36:01 AM, Peter Meyns wrote: PM Some providers, like German Telekom and obviously Yahoo UK, have PM decided to use the old (you can also call it obsolete) SSL 3.0 PM I overlooked that it is already released: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_6-1-0-2.msi Thanks for the pointer! But... it's not only a paid upgrade for me (I did), but it suffers from the same problem :(( So, either RITlabs didn't fix the problem in this version, or, much more likely, Yahoo! UK caused some *other* obstacle to progress. I received an automated acknowledgement of a submission for help to Yahoo Customer Care 48 hours ago, but so far, no actual help. Maybe I'll have to contact RITlabs direct. 18 December 2013 My UK ISP has not made any changes (as yet), but my fear is they may do I am curious as to whether any logging in TB! could be turned on to illicit help from those far more technically skilled than I. Either at Ritlabs, here, or at my ISP, should the occasion arise. So, is there any pertinent logging we can use to help fix these sort of problems? -- Chris Wilson Using The Bat! v5.8.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 -- Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
On Wednesday, December 18, 2013, 3:28:28 PM, Chris Wilson wrote: So, is there any pertinent logging we can use to help fix these sort of problems? Logging to some extent is automatic - press Shift+Control+A and you get something like ( some lines wrapped): 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Connecting to SMTP server smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk on port 465 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Initiating TLS handshake 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Certificate S/N: 07AAB97C578AA62B8A9BBFB148D0FE88, algorithm: RSA (2048 bits), issued from 5/30/2012 to 6/4/2014 12:00:00 PM, for 25 host(s): smtp.mail.yahoo.com, *.smtp.mail.yahoo.com, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.ar, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.au, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.br, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.cn, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.hk, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.my, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.ph, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.sg, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.tw, smtp.mail.yahoo.com.vn, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.id, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.in, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.kr, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.th, smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk, smtp.mail.yahoo.ca, smtp.mail.yahoo.cn, smtp.mail.yahoo.de, smtp.mail.yahoo.es, smtp.mail.yahoo.fr, smtp.mail.yahoo.it, smtp.y7mail.com, smtp.correo.yahoo.es. 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Owner: US, CA, Sunnyvale, Yahoo! Inc., Yahoo Mail, smtp.mail.yahoo.com. 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Issuer: US, DigiCert Inc, www.digicert.com, DigiCert High Assurance CA-3. 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - Root: US, DigiCert Inc, www.digicert.com, DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - TLS handshake complete 18/12/2013, 14:27:10: SEND - connected to SMTP server 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - WARNING: there were no compatible authentication mechanisms detected 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - sending message to [ test e-mail address ] !18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: 5.7.1 Authentication required 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent 18/12/2013, 14:27:23: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details But I suspect you may mean much more detailed diagnostic logging. -- Regards, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.1.0.2 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi On Wednesday 18 December 2013 at 3:50:23 PM, in mid:1397819209.20131218155...@theluminousvoid.plus.com, Robert Bull wrote: But I suspect you may mean much more detailed diagnostic logging. Account | Properties | Transport | Protocol Logging? -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Success isn't how far you got, but the distance you travelled from where you started Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Hi On Wednesday 18 December 2013 at 12:01:31 AM, in mid:14718825.20131218000...@theluminousvoid.plus.com, Robert Bull wrote: Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. Since then I've been able to *receive* mail, but not to send it. [snipped] Any ideas, please? I don't know if my TB! version makes a difference. I'll ignore POP settings as you said whatever you use works for you. The following SMTP settings work for one of my @yahoo.uk accounts:- SMTP Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk Connection: Secure to regular port STARTTLS Port: 587 Authentication: Perform SMTP Authorisation (RFC 2554) same user/password as for mail retreival -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Yahoo UK SMTP problem
Two of my e-mail addresses are with Yahoo! UK, which allows POP3 access. Until recently YUK has used plain transport and everything worked fine, but recently they changed to requiring SSL. Since then I've been able to *receive* mail, but not to send it. When I try to send I get this error: - Server reports error. The response is: 5.7.1 Authentication required - As far as I can see, I have the correct settings. YUK's Help file at http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=contenty=PROD_MAIL_MLlocale=en_GBid=SLN4724 gives: - Want to access Yahoo Mail from an email program like Outlook or Mac Mail? Here's the settings you'll need. Incoming Mail (POP) Server - Requires SSL (Secure Socket Layer) Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com Port: 995 Requires SSL: Yes Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server - Requires TLS (Transport Layer Security) Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com Port: 465 or 587 Requires SSL: Yes Requires authentication: Yes If your POP client doesn't offer TLS, you'll still be able to use SSL. Login info - Requires authentication Email address: Your full email address (n...@domain.com.) Password: Your account's password. - I substitute .co.uk for .com, but everything has worked OK until SSL. The settings I have, text-scraped from TB's screen, are: Transport SMTP Server smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk SMTP Connection Secure on dedicated port (TLS) SMTP Port 465 Incoming mail protocol Incoming mail serverpop.mail.yahoo.co.uk Connection to incoming mail server Secure on dedicated port (TLS) Incoming mail server port 995 Connection timeout 6000 sec Detail screenshots are at http://imgur.com/RfLCMJ5 , http://imgur.com/noH0ZAq , http://imgur.com/SNqRWlq These look OK to me. I couldn't get Ultrafunk Popcorn to work either, but the small, free, portable nPOP worked OK. So it isn't a problem with my PC. I read far more messages than I send, and probably haven't sent any for a while: it's possible this problem has only occurred since upgrading from TB 5.8.8 (I think) to v6. However, I can't be certain of that. My other accounts are Regular, so I can't cross-check with them. Any ideas, please? -- Thanks in anticipation, Robert Bull mailto:theb...@theluminousvoid.plus.com Using The Bat! v6.0.10 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current version is 5.2.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
Hello Luca, If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... You can't check or uncheck it directly with the mouse as one would expect, it does not work. But you can do it from context menu if you right click. However it doesn't seem to make any difference whether it is checked or not. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.6.7 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.aminus3.com Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
Robin Anson: On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 at 21:08:24 +0200,Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... Where is this option to be found? Account/properties. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 at 17:51:28 +0200,Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... Where is this option to be found? Account/properties. Hmm, you must be running v5. If you share your version number in your question it helps people resolve your problems. Since I'm running v4, I cannot help you -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
MFPA: On Sunday 29 July 2012 at 9:04:53 AM, in mid:7br918hr1eegouge1a8hkpv4mbd7gha...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
Hi On Monday 30 July 2012 at 8:08:24 PM, in mid:homd18l2c3ghf44bkjo3arcekge4664...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, That must have been introduced later than v4.0.38. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@rocketmail.com It is easy to propose impossible remedies. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 at 21:08:24 +0200,Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. If you select use SMTP servers on-the-go, then configure, you get a shared checkbox, not working, for each server. Maybe in some next build... Where is this option to be found? -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.2.44.2 Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1 Popfile v1.1.1 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. Is there a way to make an SMTP server available to all accounts at once? Tnx. (Sorry for my other message reposted... Gmane authorization problems.) -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at linuxfan.it Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP servers On-The-Go: how to share an SMTP server
Hi On Sunday 29 July 2012 at 9:04:53 AM, in mid:7br918hr1eegouge1a8hkpv4mbd7gha...@4ax.com, Luca wrote: I'm trying to share an SMTP server between more than one account, but the shared flag is not active. My TB! version has no shared flag in the account|transport settings, active or otherwise. But the two choices that spring to mind are:- 1. Write the same settings in each account that you want to share them. 2. Set the SMTP server in your TB! accounts to localhost and use a local SMTP server program on your own computer to relay to whatever SMTP servers you wish (or to send directly). Is there a way to make an SMTP server available to all accounts at once? See 2. above. I do that for several accounts at home; I don't have a need for a laptop, so do not use it on the go. Tnx. (Sorry for my other message reposted... Gmane authorization problems.) Oops. I already commented on that... -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@rocketmail.com An idealist is a person who helps other people to be prosperous Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
Hallo Scott, On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:11:02 +1030GMT (20-11-2008, 7:41 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SS It will not work with SSL SMTP settings with my ISP Internode or Gmail. Do as you're told by both servers and enable authentication This works for me with gmail. smtp server: smtp.gmail.com connection: secure to dedicated port (TLS) port 465 Authentication - Perform SMTP authentication Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval Ad from what I saw at Internode's, the same setting should work there, except for the smtp server, that should be: securemail.internode.on.net -- Groetjes, Roelof I love my country; it's my government that scares me. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpGpD3PC8m7I.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
Hello. I have tried doing it exactly as it has said and you have discribed. t refuses to work, both with Internode and Gmail. I am using Gmail for your domain. Thanks -- Scott Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
On Thursday, November 20, 2008, Scott Sims scripted: I have tried doing it exactly as it has said and you have discribed. t refuses to work, both with Internode and Gmail. I am using Gmail for your domain. Greetings Scott, 07:20, Thursday, November 20, 2008 I had exactly the same experience with Gmail. I tried all combinations of STARTTLS and TLS, port 465 and 587. It simply refused to send mail. Very frustrating. Some weeks later, however, I tried again and it worked the first time. My guess is that once it gets set wrong, something (in The Bat or Gmail?) doesn't get reset. Try deleting the account and starting with a new one. The settings Roelof recommends really do work. -- Gary -- Random Tagline -- Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently. Mail Handler : ^o^ Flying with The_Bat! 3.99.29 ^o^ The OS : Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
The problem is, it is The Bat. I cannot get Internode to work either. If I can get both services to work fine with Thunderbird on the same computer, why do they not work with The Bat? I have tried them both months ago and had the same problem. It is something wrong with The Bat. Thanks -- Scott 2008/11/20 Gary Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday, November 20, 2008, Scott Sims scripted: I have tried doing it exactly as it has said and you have discribed. t refuses to work, both with Internode and Gmail. I am using Gmail for your domain. Greetings Scott, 07:20, Thursday, November 20, 2008 I had exactly the same experience with Gmail. I tried all combinations of STARTTLS and TLS, port 465 and 587. It simply refused to send mail. Very frustrating. Some weeks later, however, I tried again and it worked the first time. My guess is that once it gets set wrong, something (in The Bat or Gmail?) doesn't get reset. Try deleting the account and starting with a new one. The settings Roelof recommends really do work. -- Gary -- Random Tagline -- Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more intelligently. Mail Handler : ^o^ Flying with The_Bat! 3.99.29 ^o^ The OS : Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
Hallo Scott, On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:32:45 +1030GMT (20-11-2008, 14:02 +0100, where I live), you wrote: SS I have tried them both months ago and had the same problem. It is SS something wrong with The Bat. It isn't very likely that it is TB, after all I can connect just fine with TB and gamil, I don't know what version of TB you're using, but gmail and TB have been compatible since the beginning of gmail. When you're able to manage a proper download with another mail client and not with TB then you're probably enabling some option that you shouldn't. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr: 019 User error - Not our fault. Is Not! Is Not! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpyAzlsboJgg.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
Hello, No, I am enabling options just as you instructed and all guides list from Internode and Gmail. It is something wrong with The Bat! Regards -- Scott Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
Hello Scott, It is something wrong with The Bat! Maybe with *your* configuration of The Bat!, but not with The Bat itself. I also have a gmail account and I can send and receive with TB without any problems. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
All I can say is that various virus infections and other nuisance things make my PC working in an odd mode I have a gmail account and following the data supplied had it running with the bat when installed the first time. Problem is, at the moment it doesn't work As mentioned, make sure you don't loose emails and following the instructions try a clean install I probably will do the same as soon as I have a virus removed which made itself a home in my PC. Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
Hi On Thursday 20 November 2008 at 4:37:10 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], MAU wrote: I also have a gmail account and I can send and receive with TB without any problems. I also have a (little-used) gmail account. I can usually send and receive just fine but today I find I can not send, just receive. This happens sometimes and I usually find it is ok a couple of days (or hours) later. The setting that nearly always works for me is STARTLS to port 587, Perform SMTP authentication, Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval. -- Best regards, MFPA Editing is a rewording activity Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.36.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
Hi On Friday 21 November 2008 at 1:44:05 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], I wrote: but today I find I can not send, just receive. This happens sometimes and I usually find it is ok a couple of days (or hours) later. And sure enough, after waiting a short while without altering any settings, gmail accepted my connection and relayed my test message (to a non-gmail account, delivered 2 minutes later) -- Best regards, MFPA Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else Using The Bat! v4.0.32.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.36.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SSL SMTP Problems
Hello. The Bat! is driving me nuts. It will not work with SSL SMTP settings with my ISP Internode or Gmail. Internode Secure SMTP gives me this error when trying to send email through The Bat: !20/11/2008, 16:52:30: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - relaying blocked, read new mail, add 121.91.90.150 to forwarding or enable smtp authentication in y 20/11/2008, 16:52:30: SEND - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent 20/11/2008, 16:52:30: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details Settings for Internode are: Secure SMTP: securemail.internode.on.net - Port: 465 Gmail SMTP gives this error: !20/11/2008, 17:08:52: SEND - Server reports error. The response is: 5.5.1 http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 q18sm1080400pog.25 20/11/2008, 17:08:53: SEND - connection finished - 0 message(s) sent 20/11/2008, 17:08:53: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details Using settings: smtp.gmail.com (use authentication) Use Authentication: Yes Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL) Port: 465 or 587 I've tried to activate the link Gmail gives me, but it still does not work! Very frustrating. Standard non-SSL mail.internode.on.net works fine. Problem is, I need SSL access so I can use with other ISP's. Thanks in advance, Scott Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
On Thursday, November 20, 2008, 7:41:02, Scott Sims wrote: !20/11/2008, 16:52:30: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - relaying blocked, read new mail, add 121.91.90.150 to forwarding or enable smtp authentication in y Settings for Internode are: Secure SMTP: securemail.internode.on.net - Port: 465 Do as the error message says - enable SMTP authentication. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The world is more complicated than most of our theories make it out to be. -- Berkeley's First Law Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SSL SMTP Problems
How do I enable that? I have enabled it, in the sub settings. Perform SMTP Auth RFC 2554 Including my username/password. Tried so many different settings and The Bat refuses to work. Tried Thunderbird and it worked find with Internode and Gmail. Still refuses to work! Thanks 2008/11/20 Jernej Simončič [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, November 20, 2008, 7:41:02, Scott Sims wrote: !20/11/2008, 16:52:30: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - relaying blocked, read new mail, add 121.91.90.150 to forwarding or enable smtp authentication in y Settings for Internode are: Secure SMTP: securemail.internode.on.net - Port: 465 Do as the error message says - enable SMTP authentication. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ The world is more complicated than most of our theories make it out to be. -- Berkeley's First Law Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Problems logging onto SMTP-server
...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net wrote on 13/07/2008 at 03:17:34 +1100 subject [TBUDL] Problems logging onto SMTP-server : Bonus Question: Do one actually need the Plug-In if AVG itself is fully Enabled to look after your mail sending/receiving? _I_ do not need it. (actually using Kaspersky AV 8, but it is the same principle). In addition, the on-acces-monitor of the AV-Tool will detect some malicious file anyway as soon it is written to the disc. Besides of that, scanning for malware insides of archives is an quite ineffective thing. One can actually hide very easily every malware for every On-demand scanner with the tools present on almost every PC (e.g. 7-Zip or WinRar). -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 4.0.26.4 - Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.7.0 Extended Macro Plugin 1.1.9.0 - Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [TBUDL] Problems logging onto SMTP-server
Well, here I am again - replying to my own message: Is anyone having trouble with TB hanging on logging onto the SMTP-server? (Not TB per se but the *task* in CC.) I had the problem with TB 3.99.29 - the problem continues with 4.00.24. The SMTP-server TB connects to is installed on the very PC that TB is on - that installation has not been tampered with for over a year now - the problem with TB has been there for some few months. TB says: Logging on to the server - if I am lucky, TB will not get stuck with that task. But quite so often the task is just forever waiting (for days if you're not restarting TB). TB has apparently NO Time Out protection that aborts and possibly retries from start. When it gets stuck it just says Logging on to the server - and that's it. Any clues? Thanks! I have investigated a bit more - and have found the reason to the problem - unfortunately, I haven't found a fix...or ...I have a fix, but it is no way a nice one...anyway: (I will be referring to TB: TheBat - email client MEP: Mail Express Professional - SMTP-server CC: TB's Connection Centre) NOTE: TB and MEP are resident on the same machine - hence, the times should be corresponding very well UNLESS one of the applications has its time completely freaked up. Which we cannot assume, really... Failing (stuck) message 1: At time 12:43:21 the message had been stuck for 04:05:00. So TB attempted access at 08:38:21. Failing (stuck) message 2: At time 12:42:40 the message had been stuck for 04:00:00. So TB attempted access at 08:42:40. Time elapse is courtesy of TB's own CC. Let's look up the Received from email client log from MEP: 20080712 08:38:23 0 New request from 192.168.0.95 20080712 08:38:23 0 New request from 192.168.0.1 20080712 08:38:23 0 [LocalUser1][Use CRAM-MD5 Authentication. 20080712 08:38:23 0 Authenticated - LocalUser1 20080712 08:38:23 0 [LocalUser2][Use CRAM-MD5 Authentication. 20080712 08:38:23 0 Authenticated - LocalUser2 20080712 08:38:23 0 [LocalUser2]Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20080712 08:38:23 0 [LocalUser2]RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20080712 08:38:23 0 [LocalUser2]RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20080712 08:38:23 0 [LocalUser2]Email Received. [Message-ID: _ [EMAIL PROTECTED]] 20080712 08:38:23 0 Connection is close. 20080712 08:38:42 0 Connection is close. 20080712 08:42:41 0 New request from 192.168.0.95 20080712 08:42:41 0 [LocalUser1][Use CRAM-MD5 Authentication. 20080712 08:42:41 0 Authenticated - LocalUser1 20080712 08:43:00 0 Connection is close. 20080712 08:43:19 0 Connection is close. Apparently, something is happening between the mail client and the server. Then I looked up TB's own log (account.log) - and found something very interesting at the times 08:38:21 and 08:42:40: !12.07.2008, 08:38:21: ANTIVIRUS - The anti-virus has reported _ an error, the object cannot be checked _ for viruses !12.07.2008, 08:42:40: ANTIVIRUS - The anti-virus has reported _ an error, the object cannot be checked _ for viruses The Anti Virus that is running on the machine is AVG 8.0.138 (updated on a daily basis). And it strucks me...the problem started happening after AVG was installed. So... It is already fair to say the email server is innocent - the installation hasn't been tampered with for a long time - and it is running properly. However, one can also conclude the problem to be in between TB and AVG. I was actually surprised AVG was working on outgoing messages as I have disabled this capability. Wondering if there was something I had been doing wrongly I checked the programs settings - and yes, it was disabled. Or was it? From the AVG Overview hovering E-Mail it says Active. All well. But: Looking at the Description of selected component it says E-mail Scanner scans incoming and outgoing e-mail and E-mail Scanner is active. One has to wonder if that line scans incoming and outgoing e-mail is descriptive or if it is showing some Status for the component, as well. Clicking on the component brings up the dialog box for said component. From there it is revealed that, yes, Scan outgoing messages is unchecked (disabled). So why is AVG interfering? It is configured to IGNORE checking outgoing mail, yet it seemingly does check these messages (and fail on some occasions creating stuck messages with TB). !12.07.2008, 08:38:21: ANTIVIRUS - The anti-virus has reported _ an error, the object cannot be checked _ for viruses !12.07.2008, 08:42:40: ANTIVIRUS - The anti-virus has reported _ an error, the object cannot be checked _ for viruses Apparently, TB indeed receives a response from AVG or else TB wouldn't put
Re: [TBUDL] Problems logging onto SMTP-server
Well, here I am again - replying to my own message: And another reply-to-myself... It is already fair to say the email server is innocent - the installation hasn't been tampered with for a long time - and it is running properly. However, one can also conclude the problem to be in between TB and AVG. I was actually surprised AVG was working on outgoing messages as I have disabled this capability. Wondering if there was something I had been doing wrongly I checked the programs settings - and yes, it was disabled. Or was it? From the AVG Overview hovering E-Mail it says Active. All well. But: Looking at the Description of selected component it says E-mail Scanner scans incoming and outgoing e-mail and E-mail Scanner is active. One has to wonder if that line scans incoming and outgoing e-mail is descriptive or if it is showing some Status for the component, as well. Clicking on the component brings up the dialog box for said component. From there it is revealed that, yes, Scan outgoing messages is unchecked (disabled). So why is AVG interfering? It is configured to IGNORE checking outgoing mail, yet it seemingly does check these messages (and fail on some occasions creating stuck messages with TB). I just found out: Disabling Scan outgoing messages from AVG itself won't matter. Something else might have been set for the AVG for The Bat! Virus checking Plug-In, you see... If Check outgoing mail for viruses is checked (Enabled) in TB's Preferences (- Protection - Anti-virus), well, then it is ON; Enabled and utterly Active. I have finally (I hope) got this one Disabled! Actually: It seems that users would stay pretty safe if Disabling Check incoming mail for viruses PROVIDED the following is ENABLED: Check attachments for viruses before opening them from The Bat! Check attachments before the user saves them to the disk To me it seems that Disabling Check Incoming is safe by the very fact that one can't really do any access to an attached file unless the two Check attachments have been running. I see one potentional risk here as far as Virus checkers go: If you do a scan of your computer, your Anti Virus program might try to look into your mailboxes (.TBB). If an attachment hasn't been put into Quarantine, but still exist in full code inside the mailbox, your Anti Virus program might want to Quarantine it itself. And it might try quarantining the ... ppps! ... entire mailbox! Hence, make sure your Virus checker is told to IGNORE the folders/directories where your mailboxes reside when it is Scanning your computer. Use at your own risk - as for opening attachments, rule #...1 applies: Do not open ANY attachment you receive UNLESS it is expected (or makes sense in your communication with the Sender) or !!!at least!!! comes from a secure, known and trusted Sender. But back to TB: My opinion that TB should protect itself from malfunction Plug- ins apply - TB got to have a Time Out Protection - I would like to escalate my suggestion to be valid for both incoming and out- going message - in fact ANYTHING that is passed thru a Plug-In where TB is supposed to resume control after the Plug-In has finished its task. I have also found some suspecious and very similar behaviour with Incoming mail. The behaviour is that the problem is also there for Incoming mail - and bugs TB big time. Anyone having problems with TB hanging while downloading mail while AVG for The Bat! is used as a Plug-In? Bonus Question: Do one actually need the Plug-In if AVG itself is fully Enabled to look after your mail sending/receiving? -- ...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problems logging onto SMTP-server
Hello! Is anyone having trouble with TB hanging on logging onto the SMTP-server? (Not TB per se but the *task* in CC.) I had the problem with TB 3.99.29 - the problem continues with 4.00.24. The SMTP-server TB connects to is installed on the very PC that TB is on - that installation has not been tampered with for over a year now - the problem with TB has been there for some few months. TB says: Logging on to the server - if I am lucky, TB will not get stuck with that task. But quite so often the task is just forever waiting (for days if you're not restarting TB). TB has apparently NO Time Out protection that aborts and possibly retries from start. When it gets stuck it just says Logging on to the server - and that's it. Any clues? Thanks! -- ...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problems logging onto SMTP-server
Hello ...listen2reason..., On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:44:57 +0200 GMT (12/07/2008, 06:44 +0700 GMT), ...listen2reason... - Musaic.Net wrote: lMN Is anyone having trouble with TB hanging on logging onto the lMN SMTP-server? (Not TB per se but the *task* in CC.) I had the lMN problem with TB 3.99.29 - the problem continues with 4.00.24. Not over here. Such problems can occur when the connection to the server is very bad - but you say your server SMTP server is on the same machine. lMN The SMTP-server TB connects to is installed on the very PC lMN that TB is on - that installation has not been tampered with lMN for over a year now - the problem with TB has been there for lMN some few months. I would hunt for the reason why TB! cannot connect. lMN TB says: Logging on to the server - if I am lucky, TB will lMN not get stuck with that task. But quite so often the task is lMN just forever waiting (for days if you're not restarting TB). lMN TB has apparently NO Time Out protection that aborts and lMN possibly retries from start. When it gets stuck it just says lMN Logging on to the server - and that's it. You're right, when TB! cannot connect for whatever reason, it should timeout. Check this setting: Account / Transport / Server Timeout It is seet to 60 seconds here. I sometime get the message Some messages were not sent - check log for details, and the reason is cannot connect to server. So it seems to work. -- Cheers, Thomas. FLATULANCE: Emergency vehicle that picks you up when you've been run over by a steam roller http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.26 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP Switching
Since my long term request for a global confuiguration system for TB is obviously never going to happen... Does anyone know of an alternative to XRay thatwill alolow swiching between SMTP serves that require authentication. XRay doesn't support authenticated SMTP servers which makes it a bit of a dead duck for that purpose now, IMHO -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.99.3 with K9 on Windows XP 5.1 tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Switching
Hello Marten and TBUDL, Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 6:03:05 AM, you wrote: Since my long term request for a global confuiguration system for TB is obviously never going to happen... Can't help you with your request, but I'm with you on the global SMTP config. It's not the end of the world if it doesn't happen, but it would be sweet, for sure. -- Regards, Neal Using TheBat! v3.99.6 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Hello, all. On 5/8/07, Luc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good afternoon Roelof, It was foretold that on 8/5/2007 @ 16:59:22 GMT+0200 (which was 11:59:22 where I live) Roelof Otten would write: snipped a bit RO My smtp setting for gmail are: Mine are: SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com Grr... tired of futzing with this. I recreated the imap account with the exact same settings, and outgoing email works on the newly created account. Not sure what's going on... Now, to copy over my template settings Thanks for the suggestions and help, -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Hallo WL, On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:28:54 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 2:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS. W The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I W have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific W settings selected. Try 'use same settings as mail retrieval' W [18:49:11] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W [18:49:11] S: 530 authentication required - for help go to W http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html Did you follow that link? W -- W WL Your cutsign is missing the trailing space. -- Groetjes, Roelof If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you! http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp09XVVN7G2D.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo WL, On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:28:54 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 2:28 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS. W The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I W have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific W settings selected. Try 'use same settings as mail retrieval' In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's SMTP server. Regardless of what username and password is used, the log indicates the smtp authentication is not happening. I expected to see something like C: AUTH LOGIN before the MAIL FROM: line, or even C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AUTH=blahblah but I don't see anything like that. W [18:49:11] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W [18:49:11] S: 530 authentication required - for help go to W http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html Did you follow that link? Yes. It says to enable smtp authentication. Hopefully, the cut sign will be intact -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Hallo WL, On Tue, 8 May 2007 06:54:20 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 13:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP W blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's W SMTP server. Often they're only blocking port 25. I see that you're using gmail and they're using a different port. You could try to reach them. BTW Can you send mail via your regular mail account at your ISP? -- Groetjes, Roelof Where there's smoke, there's toast. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpkBvlErbqd2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 8 May 2007 06:54:20 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 13:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: W In this case, the credentials have to be different. The ISP W blocks outgoing smtp traffic unless it goes through the ISP's W SMTP server. Often they're only blocking port 25. I see that you're using gmail and they're using a different port. You could try to reach them. Same problem: gmail says I need to be authorized first. Here's the log using gmail's smtp server. [07:43:34] C: Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 465 [07:43:34] S: 220 mx.google.com ESMTP f24sm14853661pyh [07:43:36] C: EHLO WL [07:43:36] S: 250-mx.google.com at your service, [65.42.208.133] [07:43:36] S: 250-SIZE 28311552 [07:43:36] S: 250-8BITMIME [07:43:36] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN [07:43:36] S: 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES [07:43:36] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=305 [07:43:36] S: 530 5.5.1 Authentication Required f24sm14853661pyh [07:43:36] C: RSET [07:43:36] S: 250 2.1.0 Flushed f24sm14853661pyh [07:43:36] C: QUIT Again, no AUTH. BTW Can you send mail via your regular mail account at your ISP? Oddly enough, I can. Here's the smtp log from that: [07:49:56] C: Connected to smtp.att.yahoo.com, port 465 [07:49:56] S: 220 smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ESMTP [07:49:58] C: EHLO WL [07:49:58] S: 250-smtp113.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [07:49:58] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE [07:49:58] S: 250-PIPELINING [07:49:58] S: 250 8BITMIME [07:49:58] C: AUTH PLAIN [07:49:58] S: 334 ok, go on [07:49:59] S: 235 ok, go ahead (#2.0.0) yay, auth... I went through and double checked the settings but I still can't send email out. The only difference that may matter is the non-sending account is really IMAP, and the second account is POP. Having said that, I'm not sure how why or how it would make a difference... -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Sorry, just a random sig test... On 5/8/07, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippaged] Sig yes? It's weird... I thought it worked before... and emails sent to myself seem to have the trailing space... -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Hallo WL, On Tue, 8 May 2007 08:10:32 -0500GMT (8-5-2007, 15:10 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Often they're only blocking port 25. I see that you're using gmail and they're using a different port. You could try to reach them. W Same problem: gmail says I need to be authorized first. Here's W the log using gmail's smtp server. W [07:43:34] C: Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 465 W [07:43:34] S: 220 mx.google.com ESMTP f24sm14853661pyh W [07:43:36] C: EHLO WL W [07:43:36] S: 250-mx.google.com at your service, [65.42.208.133] W [07:43:36] S: 250-SIZE 28311552 W [07:43:36] S: 250-8BITMIME W [07:43:36] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN W [07:43:36] S: 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES W [07:43:36] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=305 W [07:43:36] S: 530 5.5.1 Authentication Required f24sm14853661pyh Yes, that's definitely different from my gmail account (for testing purposes only) That shows: [16:17:40] C: Connected to smtp.gmail.com, port 465 [16:17:40] S: 220 mx.google.com ESMTP z40sm791870ugc [16:17:40] C: EHLO BASILISK [16:17:40] S: 250-mx.google.com at your service, [217.122.181.180] [16:17:40] S: 250-SIZE 28311552 [16:17:40] S: 250-8BITMIME [16:17:40] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN [16:17:40] S: 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES [16:17:40] C: AUTH PLAIN [16:17:40] S: 334 [16:17:40] C: Some gobbledygook [16:17:41] S: 235 2.7.0 Accepted [16:17:41] C: MAIL FROM:myaddress SIZE=475 [16:17:41] S: 250 2.1.0 OK [16:17:41] C: RCPT TO:myaddress [16:17:41] S: 250 2.1.5 OK [16:17:41] C: DATA [16:17:41] S: 354 Go ahead My smtp setting for gmail are: SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com Connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS) Port: 465 Authentication:'Perform SMTP Authentication' and 'Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval' selected and nothing else. -- Groetjes, Roelof If the water is clean, you see the bottom, if dirty, you see yourself. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.3 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpCCjkxrswwO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: smtp auth: what am I missing?
Good afternoon Roelof, It was foretold that on 8/5/2007 @ 16:59:22 GMT+0200 (which was 11:59:22 where I live) Roelof Otten would write: snipped a bit RO My smtp setting for gmail are: RO SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com RO Connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS) RO Port: 465 RO Authentication:'Perform SMTP Authentication' and 'Same user/password RO as for Mail Retrieval' selected and nothing else. Mine are: SMTP Server: smtp.gmail.com Connection: Secure to regular port (STARTTLS) Port: 587 Authentication:'Perform SMTP Authentication' and 'use specific settings' Might seem strange but initially i had problems sending mail and fiddled with the settings... after 3 days, out of the blue, gmail decided to go along with it and works fine now. Seems gmail needs some time to think about it HTH -- Best regards, Luc http://www.dzinelabs.com --- Powered by The Bat! version 3.99.3 with Windows XP (build 2600), version 5.1 Service Pack 2 and using the best browser: Opera. A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
smtp auth: what am I missing?
Hello, all. With TB! 3.99.3, I seem to be unable to use smtp authentication. I'm getting a ``must first authenticate message'' from the server. I must be missing something... In the account properties, I have the smtp server using TLS. The port is set to 465. In the authentication button, I have Perform SMTP Authentication checked, with the specific settings selected. I've tried tests with and without the ``Require secure authentication'' selected but the results seem the same. The protocol logs say: [18:49:11] C: Connected to smtp.att.yahoo.com, port 465 [18:49:11] S: 220 smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ESMTP [18:49:11] C: EHLO X [18:49:11] S: 250-smtp104.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [18:49:11] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE [18:49:11] S: 250-PIPELINING [18:49:11] S: 250 8BITMIME [18:49:11] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [18:49:11] S: 530 authentication required - for help go to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/sbc/dsl/mail/pop/pop-11.html [18:49:11] C: RSET [18:49:11] C: QUIT It doesn't even seem to be performing the AUTH step. Suggestions? -- WL Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP Log
A detailed SMTP log (not the account log) can be turned on and off in TB! I know, because I turned it on some months ago. Now I cannot remember how to turn it off. Would some kind soul give me a clue? Thanks... -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Log
Hello all, Monday, March 19, 2007, Dave Goodman wrote: A detailed SMTP log (not the account log) can be turned on and off in TB! I know, because I turned it on some months ago. Now I cannot remember how to turn it off. Would some kind soul give me a clue? Thanks... go to Account properties, open Transport section and You will see Protocol logging section there. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.98.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.0.0.3 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP Log
Hello Marek, go to Account properties, open Transport section and You will see Protocol logging section there. Thank you, Marek. Apparently I'm not bright enough to expand the tree under Transport, so I never noticed it there. Appreciate the pointer. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.8.0.7 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Another SMTP test
Any delay? Check new smtp log. -- Dave Goodman The Bat! 3.95.6 AntispamSniper 1.7.0.8 Windows 2000 Service Pack 4 Current version is 3.95.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Need Help on SMTP Server settings for Earthlink.net
I hope some one on this list is on earthlink.net. They are changing their SMTP server to smtpauth.earthlink.net. I can't get it to work; and earthlink does not support The Bat!. I can't get it to work in Moilla eihter. Can someone help? -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Need Help on SMTP Server settings for Earthlink.net
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] everyone else, on 11-Jun-2006 at 09:49 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I hope some one on this list is on earthlink.net. They are changing their SMTP server to smtpauth.earthlink.net. I can't get it to work; and earthlink does not support The Bat!. I can't get it to work in Moilla eihter. I'm not using earthlink :) but smtpauth.something sure sounds like they require authentication before you can use their SMTP server to relay messages. Check Account / Properties / Transport. There's a button Authentication. Check the tickbox use SMTP authentication Enter the username and password for your earthlink account below (or simply use same user/password as for Mail Retrieval if its the same) That should do it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de) If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kickboxing. Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Need Help on SMTP Server settings for Earthlink.net
Sunday, June 11, 2006, Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] everyone else, on 11-Jun-2006 at 09:49 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I hope some one on this list is on earthlink.net. They are changing their SMTP server to smtpauth.earthlink.net. I can't get it to work; and earthlink does not support The Bat!. I can't get it to work in Moilla eihter. I'm not using earthlink :) but smtpauth.something sure sounds like they require authentication before you can use their SMTP server to relay messages. Check Account / Properties / Transport. There's a button Authentication. Check the tickbox use SMTP authentication Enter the username and password for your earthlink account below (or simply use same user/password as for Mail Retrieval if its the same) That should do it. I did that; but it doesn't work. As I was writing this, I thought I would give it another try -- with one change. Instead of using same user/password, I checked use specific settings. That change made it work -- even though the specific settings is the same as same user. Weird. -- Thanks in advance Using The Bat! 2.12.04 Under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.80.06 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP3 and SMTP settings per Lycos for use with TB
Is anyone using Lycos's POP3 option to retrieve mail from Lycos using TB? I am using the presets according to Lycos which are incoming server: pop.mail.lycos.com, outgoing server: smtp.mail.lycos.com, user name: my address @lycos.com and my lycos password and have never been able to connect in order to retrieve my Lycos email. Has anyone ever tried this before? Thanks for your help!!! Kindest Regards, Tim Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: POP3 and SMTP settings per Lycos for use with TB
Hi On Sunday 9 April 2006 at 8:16:33 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Hamm wrote: Is anyone using Lycos's POP3 option to retrieve mail from Lycos using TB? Any success retrieving with another mail client? and have never been able to connect in order to retrieve my Lycos email. Asking the obvious but presumably Lycos has to be told to allow POP access in a similar way to Yahoo or Gmail? Sometimes, people fall into the trap of changing the settings but not saving the changes. Could it be something to do with connection or authentication settings in TB!? Does Lycos use the standard ports 25 and 110? -- Best regards, MFPA If you save the world too often, it begins to expect it Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: POP3 and SMTP settings per Lycos for use with TB)
Hallo Tim, On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:16:33 -0700GMT (9-4-2006, 9:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TH Kindest Regards, TH Tim moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Tim. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof And whatever you do, DON'T CRITICIZE THE MODERATORS! pgpFjiyLoGg6W.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Force the use of SMTP?
Hello Nick, Monday, March 6, 2006, 4:34:07 PM, you wrote: I've been on the list for quite a number of years and your advice on all matters (mine and others) have always be very helpful. I try, but I've been known to bark up the wrong tree on occasion! grin I personally think TB! is a perfect fit for small offices that can't justify a full blown Exchange server. Just have to get rid of some of the kinks. Just another suggestion. One thing you could look at is Mercury Mail http://www.pmail.com/whatsnew/m32401.htm. It's free, very robust, and stable. I've been running it for a number of years as have others on the lists. I will say however, that it isn't completely intuitive but if you were to jump on the TBOT list we'd all be happy to help you configure it securely and correctly. This would give you a real mail server. However, I will say that this may not be what you are after and might be more headache than it's worth. We can discuss it on TBOT though. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Moderators do it for the ugly thrill of it. Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: Force the use of SMTP?)
Hello Nick, Monday, March 6, 2006, 4:34:07 PM, you wrote: Nick Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Sorry, I musta missed this in previous messages. moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Nick. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. ... and, no, we can't add the cut mark to the list footer on the server because when there are 2 cut marks in a message, only the last is used. So that would penalize those that *do* correctly use a cut mark To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Studies show that cats blink when struck with a hammer. Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Force the use of SMTP?
Hi All, Recently I set up an account for a friend's small office and ran into an interesting problem. TB! sits on three different computers with one acting as a server. Basically the other computers' accounts are set up to point to the Messages.tbb and Messages.tbi on the server for each of their respective accounts. He has 3 different accounts, i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would seem that whenever one account e-mails another it doesn't use SMTP and then POP3 to send and receive the message, but rather puts the message directly into the other account. The to: and from: addresses are right, but a copy of the RFC 822 headers looks like this: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:42:17 -0500 From: x [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.10.03) Business Reply-To: x [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: x X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test 1441 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm no expert in deciphering the 822s, but in this case it doesn't seem to have most of the information I see in normal 822s (i.e. received from). Is TB! being smart and realizing that it's really not going anywhere so it just puts it into the appropriate local account? Any help or suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Force the use of SMTP?
Hello Nick, Monday, March 6, 2006, 2:34:22 PM, you wrote: Is TB! being smart and realizing that it's really not going anywhere so it just puts it into the appropriate local account? Correct.. From the TB Help File - Network and Administration - The Bat! Networking Course: Local Delivery Technology is provided by The Bat! when the appropriate option is turned on. To activate it, open the Network Administration dialog box on the server, and tick the Allow Local Delivery checkbox. This option allows several machines to work in a local network exchanging messages without using n SMTP/POP server at all. This feature provides a very efficient solution for building corporate mail-exchange networks without using Internet Mail Transfer Protocols. When the Allow Local Delivery option is on, outgoing messages addressed to local users are delivered directly into the appropriate message bases instead of having to send them to an SMTP server. -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org As I said before, I never repeat myself. Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Force the use of SMTP?
Hello Leif, Monday, March 6, 2006, 4:46:35 PM, you wrote: LG Hello Nick, LG Monday, March 6, 2006, 2:34:22 PM, you wrote: Is TB! being smart and realizing that it's really not going anywhere so it just puts it into the appropriate local account? LG Correct.. From the TB Help File - Network and Administration - The LG Bat! Networking Course: Thanks for your quick reply. In this case, the network isn't set up in any of TB!'s server modes. All 3 are in stand alone mode with each of the clients sharing the messages.tbb and message.tbi for each account on the server, so I don't have access to the Allow Local Delivery option. Are there any other possibilities that you might be able to think of? Again, thanks for your help. -- Best regards, Nick Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Force the use of SMTP?
Hello Nick, Monday, March 6, 2006, 3:16:12 PM, you wrote: Thanks for your quick reply. In this case, the network isn't set up in any of TB!'s server modes. All 3 are in stand alone mode with each of the clients sharing the messages.tbb and message.tbi for each account on the server, so I don't have access to the Allow Local Delivery option. In that case, I'll just attribute it to Bat Magic (tm). grin If each machine connects directly to the internet to send and receive e-mail but saves it to a network shared drive, then I don't know how TB knows that it's really not going outside of the local system. This is what I hear you saying. Tell me if I got it wrong. 1. There are three machines with TB installed on them. (Clients x,y,z) 2. There is a fourth machine which is acting as a file server. (Server) 3. The server has a shared folder containing the messages.tbb and .tbi files for the three accounts (x,y,z). 4. Each client has an account set up under TB for whichever mailfile it uses. i.e. Client A uses a.tbb and a.tbi on the server. Client B uses b.tbb and b.tbi on the server etc. (I used b.tbb just as shorthand, I know they're still called messages.tbb etc and are just in different folders). 5. Each client can send and receive SMTP / POP traffic directly to the internet without using the server and the mail is then stored in the respective mail file on the server. SHRUG You got me how each TB standalone installation would know which accounts are local and therefore not use the internet. What SMTP server are the clients using? What POP server? Are there any other possibilities that you might be able to think of? Not really. I mean, if you had a local SMTP and POP server on the same network that the clients were configured to use, you should still see that box as a hop in the headers. i.e. Received from clientA (IP) on SMTP server address blah, blah. Now, if each client had all three accounts set up under each and there was an outgoing filter to move the message to one of the other accounts, then maybe I could see this happening. Another idea is that if all three accounts are set up under each client, then maybe TB is smart enough to realize the accounts are local and does a local delivery. I don't recall that happening when I had multiple e-mail accounts under one TB installation, but that was a long time ago too. Again, thanks for your help. No problem, but I don't know that I've really helped with anything. grin -- TBUDL/BETA/DEV/TECH Lists Moderator / PGP 0x6C0AB16B __ Geocaching:http://gps.PCWize.com ( ) ( ___)(_ _)( ___) TBUDP Wiki Site: http://www.PCWize.com/thebat/tbudp )(__ )__) _)(_ )__) Roguemoticons Smileys:http://PCWize.com/thebat ()()()(__)PHP Tutorials and snippets:http://www.DevTek.org Studies show that studies cause cancer in laboratory animals. Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Force the use of SMTP?
Hello Leif, Monday, March 6, 2006, 6:09:36 PM, you wrote: LG Hello Nick, Again, thanks for your help. LG No problem, but I don't know that I've really helped with anything. LG grin Again, thanks for your help and suggestions. It seems on first look that all your assumptions are correct. At this point I have to run out, but I would really appreciate discussing this you (and/or the rest of the group) in greater detail tomorrow. I've been on the list for quite a number of years and your advice on all matters (mine and others) have always be very helpful. I personally think TB! is a perfect fit for small offices that can't justify a full blown Exchange server. Just have to get rid of some of the kinks. Nick Current version is 3.71.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Can't Authenticate SMTP
If I use OE on a new ISP dialup number, I can set the properties for My Server Requires Authentication ... and I can send email. When I try this with TB! I get an error back from the server that whatever_domain I am sending TO: is not a gateway ... in other words they do not see me as authenticated and thus are blocking port 25 relay's. I have tried every combo of settings covering SMTP in account properties. I put in my email address and account password and still get the following variations on a failure theme. First the TB packet capture then the OE! __TB___ 220 mail.wherever.net (IMail 8.21 2617-12) NT-ESMTP Server X1 EHLO 958.popsite.net 250-mail.wherever.net says hello 250-SIZE 0 250-8BITMIME 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH LOGIN 250-AUTH=LOGIN 250-EXPN 250 STARTTLS MAIL FROM:my_account SIZE=554 250 ok RCPT TO:my_gmx.net 550 not local host gmx.net, not a gateway RSET 250 ok its reset RSET 250 ok its reset QUIT 221 Goodbye ___ And Here's one from OE I just now sent to the gmx account 220 mail.wherever.net (IMail 8.21 3037-19) NT-ESMTP Server X1 EHLO localhost 250-mail.wherever.net says hello 250-SIZE 0 250-8BITMIME 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-AUTH LOGIN 250-AUTH=LOGIN 250-EXPN 250 STARTTLS AUTH LOGIN 334 Stuff 334 More stuff 235 authenticated MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok RCPT TO: my_gmx_account.net 250 ok its for my_gmx_account.net DATA 354 ok, send it; end with CRLF.CRLF Message-ID: 000501c6220a$6c126500$01 . and it sends the rest out. __ -- Regards, Robert D. Current beta is 3.70.03 quot;Qigongquot; | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/ -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: _ The Bat! Version: 3.70.02 Qigong(Beta) Windows ME FireFox Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Authenticate SMTP
Hallo Robert, On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:08:19 -0500GMT (26-1-2006, 1:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RD If I use OE on a new ISP dialup number, I can set the properties for RD My Server Requires Authentication ... and I can send email. RD When I try this with TB! I get an error back from the server that RD whatever_domain I am sending TO: is not a gateway ... in other words RD they do not see me as authenticated and thus are blocking port 25 RD relay's. RD __TB___ RD 250-AUTH LOGIN RD 250-AUTH=LOGIN RD 250-EXPN RD 250 STARTTLS RD MAIL FROM:my_account SIZE=554 RD __OE_ RD 250-AUTH LOGIN RD 250-AUTH=LOGIN RD 250-EXPN RD 250 STARTTLS RD AUTH LOGIN RD 334 Stuff RD 334 More stuff RD 235 authenticated RD MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As far as I can see, you still haven't set TB to authenticate to the server. I'll show you how TB's smtp log looks like with authentication: [00:30:47] S: 250-otten.tv [00:30:47] S: 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 [00:30:47] S: 250 AUTH=LOGIN [00:30:47] C: AUTH CRAM-MD5 [00:30:47] S: 334 blablabla [00:30:47] C: more blabla [00:30:47] S: 235 OK authenticated [00:30:47] C: MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically this means that TB is skipping the authentication process at your place. Just to make sure that you've configured that correctly: Account - Properties - Transport Here you see two buttons with 'Authentication' The one on the top belongs to your smtp server. Press this one. The topmost option says: Perform SMTP authentication (RFC2554) check this option It has a sub-option: Same user/password setting as for mail retrieval That should be selected too. The rest should not be selected. As you're using the same version as I do, you should get similar results. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vacate (I came, I saw, I left) The Bat! 3.70.03 Qigong (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpNGFNfcfkX7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can't Authenticate SMTP
Recently, Roelof Otten opined : As you're using the same version as I do, you should get similar results. OK solved wince when I took a look at what you said about checking box for authenticate same as pop mail inbound, I decided to check the box for Specific Settings. I manually typed in the first part before the @ then typed in a password with THAT email prefix, not what I use for inbound ... there is a reason for this actually, I am using two different domains, one for each, until the ISP switches over to fiber-optics Anyway, NOW it works OK, back to regular work. Thanks for the lessons everyone. -- Regards, Robert D. :flag-us-ky: Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP problem solved
Hello The, On Wednesday, May 4, 2005 at 3:25:01 AM The [TBs] wrote: TBs I did not change anything, the problem went away... Glad to hear, glad for you. TBs So Peter (Palmreuther): it is not as obvious as you thought... Above cited sentence tells me: it is. Obviously the server had a problem in recognizing the recipients domain name as (syntactically) correct, and this issue was fixed by the servers admin (or healed itself if the cause was a lookup to a database and something modified the database accordingly). It *is* obvious something on either server side or in the recipients address was wrong. TBs I am happy, that you also learnt something from this case :))) If TBs nothing else, than this: if you don't have anything to say, TBs please be quiet. *erm* OK. Guess you're the right one to distinguish if I've anything to say or not. Thanks for your advice, you might have prevented me from ending in a dead-end street because of me saying things albeit I haven't to say any ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) I don't care who does the electing as long as I get to do the nominating Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SMTP problem solved
Hello Peter and Alexander, TBs I am happy, that you also learnt something from this case :))) TBs If nothing else, than this: if you don't have anything to say, TBs please be quiet. Peter: PP *erm* OK. Guess you're the right one to distinguish if I've PP anything to say or not. Thanks for your advice, you might have PP prevented me from ending in a dead-end street because of me saying PP things albeit I haven't to say any ... Alexander: ASKWith comments like this, I'd say you have to start with yourself. I reflected the _tone_ of Peter's email. Read it again: Well, if server is OK and address is OK and server moans about address, either one must be not OK. Quite obvious, isn't it? Quite obvious, isn't it? Do you feel the tone? I reflected to this _tone_... Not your first sentence. -- Vili Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP problem solved
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 4 May 2005, @ @ at 12:41:19 +0200, when Vili wrote: I reflected the _tone_ of Peter's email. Read it again: Well, if server is OK and address is OK and server moans about address, either one must be not OK. Quite obvious, isn't it? Quite obvious, isn't it? Do you feel the tone? I reflected to this _tone_... Not your first sentence. Ah there, days of hypersensitivity ride again. No please, please no. [By the voice of Eddie Murphy.] I can stand a hammer breaking my leg but cannot stand a whining. It really ruins and tortures me. Please stop it. Vili, beware of nice tone delivering bad information. (-; Peter delivered a *good* one, stimulating you to think straightly. I really do not see any...tone in it, being very special. It indeed is quite obvious and that's it. - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 245 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OSs: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1, and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... ~~~ For PM please use my full address as it is *exactly* given in my From|Reply To field(s). ~~~ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCeL4J9q62QPd3XuIRAiAOAJ9JL3wcEiZGZdBl0EHVMWbOnWEI7ACdFzD/ cdIP5n3CGJ5GE7ZI5XPGNvk= =CBXf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP problem
Hallo Vili, On Tue, 3 May 2005 02:30:57 +0200GMT (3-5-2005, 2:30 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TBS SMTP server is ok, the recipient email is ok, I get back this message: TBS 500 invalid domain name When you're sure about those two, my guess would be that you're using the wrong from address. -- Groetjes, Roelof This is just one humble opinion, collect the whole series The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpS0BWAelGWp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP problem
Hello Vili, On Tuesday, May 3, 2005 at 2:30:57 AM Vili [V] wrote: V SMTP server is ok, the recipient email is ok, I get back this message: V 500 invalid domain name V What can be the problem? Well, if server is OK and address is OK and server moans about address, either one must be not OK. Quite obvious, isn't it? -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) You can't underestimate the power of fear. - Tricia Nixon Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SMTP problem
Hello Roelof, TBS SMTP server is ok, the recipient email is ok, I get back this message: TBS 500 invalid domain name RO When you're sure about those two, my guess would be that you're using RO the wrong from address. ??? What does it exactly mean? This address I am sending from is valid. Is not it possible, that some error on the SMTP server cause this error message? Vili Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP problem
Hallo Vili, On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:21:24 +0200GMT (3-5-2005, 14:21 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TBS SMTP server is ok, the recipient email is ok, I get back this message: TBS 500 invalid domain name TBS ??? What does it exactly mean? This address I am sending from is TBS valid. Here are the smtp reply codes: RFC 821 August 1982 Simple Mail Transfer Protocol 4.2.1. REPLY CODES BY FUNCTION GROUPS 500 Syntax error, command unrecognized [This may include errors such as command line too long] 501 Syntax error in parameters or arguments 502 Command not implemented 503 Bad sequence of commands 504 Command parameter not implemented You're getting a 500, that's a syntax error, appended with the remark 'invalid domain name', so my guess is that you're forgetting something or you've got a dot in the name without quote marks around it. Something like this: R.Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] is incorrect while this: R.Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] is okay, something like that could cause such a reply as you got. When you really want an intelligent answer from this list, you've got to come with more data, like the exact From: header (and completenesss' sake an exact From: header too) and the smtp-server you're using. Just to be complete, here are the rest of the reply codes from rfc821. 211 System status, or system help reply 214 Help message [Information on how to use the receiver or the meaning of a particular non-standard command; this reply is useful only to the human user] 220 domain Service ready 221 domain Service closing transmission channel 421 domain Service not available, closing transmission channel [This may be a reply to any command if the service knows it must shut down] 250 Requested mail action okay, completed 251 User not local; will forward to forward-path 450 Requested mail action not taken: mailbox unavailable [E.g., mailbox busy] 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable [E.g., mailbox not found, no access] 451 Requested action aborted: error in processing 551 User not local; please try forward-path 452 Requested action not taken: insufficient system storage 552 Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation 553 Requested action not taken: mailbox name not allowed [E.g., mailbox syntax incorrect] 354 Start mail input; end with CRLF.CRLF 554 Transaction failed TBS Is not it possible, that some error on the SMTP server cause this TBS error message? Yeah sure, but in that case you'd never be able to send a message. -- Groetjes, Roelof Real SysOps hate authors of bad Shareware programs begging for money. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp6sbp0g1j1x.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: SMTP problem)
Hallo Vili, On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:21:24 +0200GMT (3-5-2005, 14:21 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TBS Is not it possible, that some error on the SMTP server cause this TBS error message? TBS Vili TBS TBS Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Vili. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof FIDO: Fading Into Discreet Obsolescence The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpgKlEC8ylBm.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP problem
ON Tuesday, May 3, 2005, 1:50:18 PM, you wrote: PP Well, if server is OK and address is OK and server moans about PP address, either one must be not OK. Quite obvious, isn't it? There might be a temporary outage. I have seen a few lately. What is also possible is that your e-mail is rejected on other grounds by the recipient and given this error to not make you any wiser. Some server need you to be on the white list before you can send e-mail. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The correlation between thinking well and making successful shots is not 100 percent. But the correlation between thinking badly and unsuccessful shots is much higher. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP problem solved
Hello guys, First, thank you for all of you for your time and for your thorough answers. I did not change anything, the problem went away... As it happened with Gerard sometimes... So Peter (Palmreuther): it is not as obvious as you thought... I am happy, that you also learnt something from this case :))) If nothing else, than this: if you don't have anything to say, please be quiet. -- Vili Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP problem solved
Hello Vili everyone else, on 04-Mai-2005 at 03:25 you (The Bat! support) wrote: If nothing else, than this: if you don't have anything to say, please be quiet With comments like this, I'd say you have to start with yourself. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Freedom is not an essential and basic condition for the growth of science; the care and diligence of government authorities are the most important conditions for this development. -- Vasili N. Tatishchev Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP problem
SMTP server is ok, the recipient email is ok, I get back this message: 500 invalid domain name What can be the problem? Vili Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TLS-SMTP not working over WLAN.
I installed wirless router in my home, and now TB Connection Center window hangs while sending emails using TLS-SMTP. Everything else is working fine and so as other programs on my laptop that use internet. There should not be any relation but still wondering why its happening ... Any ideas? -- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
Hello Roelof, I've temporarily switched back to Wanadoo provider so as to be able to send message to the list directly from the Bat Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 12:49:05 PM, you wrote: Could you give some more info on your setup? Are you on a LAN? Are you using a proxy-server to share your internet connection? Are scanning outgoing mail with your virus scanner? Have you got a fixed IP address from your ISP (or your LAN)? What firewall (if any) re you using? My workstation (Main computer) is connected to internet via a Linksys modem router WAG54G through a hub. I also use Norton Internet Security 2005 which means that outgoing mails are scanned by Norton Antivirus 2005. But I tried to de activate both the firewall and antivirus and had the same problem. I don't have a fixed IP I'm curious to see what is the name given by the HELO command under the Bat in such a configuration. -- Cordialement, Jean Claude Gaertnermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works
Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 9:20:40 PM, (Internet Time - @181) you wrote: Hello David, DP Just had a quick play with the new pop3+smtp enabled in gmail and TB! DP I enabled TLS connections for pop3 and smtp + smtp authentication and it DP appears to be working just fine - neat ! DP When IMAP comes along it will be even better. DP davidp. Can you let us know how you got it to working? I have some gmail accounts and would like The Bat! to be able to access those accounts. Thanks in advance... -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 Depending on the kindness of strangers. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works
Hæ! Thursday, November 11, 2004, 13:56, Michael Acklin wrote: Can you let us know how you got it to working? I have some gmail accounts and would like The Bat! to be able to access those accounts. Thanks in advance... Read the FAQ on Gmail's site. It says the POP functionality is in a test phase and will be available to the users in phases. Obviously David is already one of the lucky ones... ;) I have not yet this feature in my Gmail account. -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.6 Professional PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works
Thursday, November 11, 2004, 7:39:22 AM, (Internet Time - @610) you wrote: Hello Clive and Thorvald, I have not yet this feature in my Gmail account. CT I noticed this morning that I had access to new features and I've set CT it up. When you get access, there are clear instructions on how to CT configure your email client. Gmail is using SSL/TLS and TB will CT support these protocols just fine. Thanks for the information. I will be watching for it. I knew they were advertising New Features a couple of weeks ago, but missed the part about the Pop3 mail. Again, thank you both for the reply. -- Best regards, Michael :texasflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Daily Bible Verses at http://freeop.blogspot.com/ Registered Linux User #367776 zsx6y7,l. op0 yhg4e3 Hey! Off the keyboard, cat!! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works
On Thursday, 11 November 2004, at 06:56:47 [GMT -0600] you wrote: MA Can you let us know how you got it to working? I have some gmail MA accounts and would like The Bat! to be able to access those accounts. MA Thanks in advance... seems that not all accounts can play yet. firstly you need to turn it on in preferences in gmail. I had a quick squiz at the nice web pages where they explain how to configure a dozen email clients (but not TB!) and it looked like it was all TLS and SMTP AUTH so I turned it all on and voila it worked. Not having folders on gmail is interesting when you use TB!, as all my email is one folder. I can see some uses for having IMAP support and SMTP support is quite useful as well. Otherwise I'll leave my email up on their servers as the search is so quick. cheers, davidp. -- David Pascoe, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Western Australia Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works
Hi David, On Thursday, November 11, 2004 11:20 your local time, which was 03:20 my local time, David Pascoe [DP] wrote; DP When IMAP comes along it will be even better. Has anyone read anywhere about plans for IMAP support then, as I can't see anything. -- Regards, Chris Created using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 IMAP OS of Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: gmail now has pop+smtp, TB! just works
Has anyone read anywhere about plans for IMAP support then, as I can't see anything. Here's what they're saying: Gmail doesn't currently support IMAP access. As part of our ongoing commitment to give our users easy access to their email, we have introduced POP access. We look forward to announcing more features as they become available. -- Regards Clive Taylor Using TB 3.0.2.4 Rush Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
Hello, I'm currently evaluating The Bat and in the meantime I'm also evaluating a new ADSL provider (Cegetel). Let me explain : I have Wanadoo ADSL provider on phone line 1 and Cegetel on phone line 2 On phone line 1 via smtp.wanadoo.fr, I can send Email via smtp protocol with no problem On phone line 2 via smtp.cegetel.net, I am not able to send any message at all. The log report the following : !10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - localhost: Helo command rejected: Invalid name 10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent 10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details If I switch to Outlook Express, with the same parameters I can send Email via smtp.cegetel.net. In fact I'm sending this message via Outlook Express and Cegetel. Is this a bug in the current Bat version ? I have tried the current release version and the latest beta 3.02 beta 6 I would appreciate any pointer Best regards from France Jean Claude Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
Hello Jean, Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 9:29:09 AM, you wrote: !10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - localhost: Helo command rejected: Invalid name Does this server require authentication? If yes... do you maybe filter spam with a local proxy? If so, maybe you have accidentally set the authentication info for mail retrieval (from the local proxy) for the SMTP server, as well? Just a guess... -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
ON Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 9:29:09 AM, you wrote: JCG !10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - JCG localhost: Helo command rejected: Invalid name JCG 10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - connection finished - 0 messages sent JCG 10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - Some messages were not sent - check the log JCG for details Hi Jean, What has happend is that your email setting are based on sending email using the Wanadoserver. This works fine if you are on the Wanado network. To prevent spammers using email servers on other networks a lot of email servers only allow connection to the email server if you are actually on their network and do not allow you to use any other email address then the one of the network. When you switch networks. ea calling on line 2, you cannot use the wanada mailserver, but you have to use the Cegetel sever and apparently you also have to use the Cegetel email address. Also make sure that you change settings in both email accounts in TB! To prevent all this hassle, you can use your own SMTP server and you will never have to worry about what settings are used by any ISP ever again :-) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- He was the sort of player who does the first two holes in one under bogey and then takes an eleven at the third. The least Ding upsets him on the links. He missed short putts because of the uproar of the butterflies in the adjoining meadows.==P.G Wodehouse - ORDEAL BY GOLF == Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
Hello Gerard, Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 10:42:23 AM, you wrote: To prevent all this hassle, you can use your own SMTP server and you will never have to worry about what settings are used by any ISP ever again :-) If you're on a dialup connection with a dynamic IP adress your message will most likely be filtered as spam somewhere by a DNSBL filter... :-/ -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
On Wednesday, November 10, 2004 at 4:45:37 AM [GMT -0500], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: If you're on a dialup connection with a dynamic IP adress your message will most likely be filtered as spam somewhere by a DNSBL filter... This was only a very transient problem for me. However, I can't tell the last time this has happened. I usually get replies to my messages. I'm using a dynamic IP DSL subscription. -- -= Allie =- . Oxymoron: Definite possibility __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
Does this server require authentication? Hello Alexander, No, authentification is not required nor supported by he way. This drives me nuts I don't understand -- Best regards JC Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
What has happend is that your email setting are based on sending email using the Wanadoserver. This works fine if you are on the Wanado network. Hello Gérard, Thanks for the answer but maybe I was not so clear, when I use CEGETEL ADSL I have, of course, selected smtp.cegetel.net in account properties to send Emails and cegetel Email address was in use too. In case you use improper smtp server, the message you receive is something like relaying denied or not authorized To prevent all this hassle, you can use your own SMTP server and you will never have to worry about what settings are used by any ISP ever again :-) I would like to try this solution in the meantime, could you give me any pointer please Thanks in advance --- Jean Claude Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
On Wednesday, November 10, 2004 at 3:29:09 AM [GMT -0500], Jean Claude Gaertner wrote: localhost: Helo command rejected: Invalid name Interesting. It would be nice to see what exactly is being rejected. The Helo name TB! usually sends is either your machine IP or machine name. I'm not sure why your ISP is rejecting this. Take a look at this page: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/03/msg12871.html When I send a message to my local server, the Helo name sent is localhost. TB! is on the same machine as the server. Wed 2004-11-10 05:31:41: -- EHLO localhost When sending from my laptop on the network: Wed 2004-11-10 06:27:07: -- EHLO LAPTOP-HOME The machine name is sent. So, it's very likely that TB! sends your machine name and your ISP is having a problem with that. It should be interesting to see what OE sends. I don't have it installed though to check. I just sent a message with OE and the Helo is: Wed 2004-11-10 06:32:25: -- EHLO laptophome I have no idea why the Helo command is rejected. -- -= Allie =- . Give instruction to a wise man and he will be yet wiser. __ Using The Bat! v3.0.2.5 for IMAP mail IMAP Server: MDaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Cut mark (was: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net)
Hallo Jean, On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 11:58:59 +0100GMT (10-11-2004, 11:58 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JCG Thanks in advance JCG --- JCGJean Claude moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Jean. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof The Innocent, the Eager, and the Doomed. The Bat! 3.0.2.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpuKBOl0DjAw.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
Hallo Jean, On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:29:09 +0100GMT (10-11-2004, 9:29 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JCG !10/11/2004, 08:38:24: SEND - Message has not been sent. Server reply - JCG localhost: Helo command rejected: Invalid name Your ISP is refusing the HELO argument you're using. I've been doing some testing just now and found that TB sends the machine name unless you're using an smtp proxy on your own machine. Apparently OE is using the machine name, it looks like your pc is called 'main', since that's what OE uses when communicating to the server. Could you give some more info on your setup? Are you on a LAN? Are you using a proxy-server to share your internet connection? Are scanning outgoing mail with your virus scanner? Have you got a fixed IP address from your ISP (or your LAN)? What firewall (if any) re you using? JCG Is this a bug in the current Bat version ? No, it's your ISP's mail server arbitrarily refusing your helo argument -- Groetjes, Roelof Postscript: The only thing of interest in some letters. The Bat! 3.0.2.6 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpRs0qxdYglI.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: cannot send Email via smtp with Cegetel.net
Hello Jean, Wednesday, November 10, 2004, 12:05:55 PM, you wrote: Does this server require authentication? No, authentification is not required nor supported by he way. OK. I have no idea whats wrong and why your connection is being rejected. The provider is only allowing the usage of his SMTP service if you're connected thru his network, correct? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
