Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 09-01-2001 at 03:06, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: Hello Karin others on TBUDL following this thread, it [would] do me any good to compress if TB! is nearly always open? (I even use it for certain word processing tasks), and don't tend to eliminate messages except manually or via spam filters KS Most probably: yes. Because everything goes to your inbox KS first and will be filtered or manually moved to seperate KS folders (unless you keep everything in your inbox). Whoa! When are folders compressed? When TB! is closed or when the folder is left for another? De[pends on your folder settings. Re where my mail goes: Lists and regular things are filtered to their own folders, occasional things stay in the inbox unless copied or moved to specific issue oriented folders. So all my recent inboxes are kept free of unread messages and any spam getting through is killed there. That means that mail generally moves out of your inbox. If you've never compressed that, there's a helluva lot of diskspace to gain. I'd better repeat: When are folders compressed? When TB! is closed or when the folder is left for another? On two occasions: - When you exit (*if* you have defined the filder to do so; check under Folder -- Properties to reassure yourself), or - when you manually demand a compression (by selecting folder -- purge and compress). Or does compression have novel meaning here (like deleting deleted messages)? That's hardly novel. That's the standard use for compression in databases - which is basically what mail boxes are. - K - -- When I get my hands on some money, I'll kiss it's green skin And I'll ask it's dirty face: "where the hell have you been?" - Swans: Failure -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 09-01-2001 at 04:36, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: In the Moldavian version of the word compress, no compression occurs. What does happen is that "deleted" messages ARE deleted (w/o the quotes. AIFAIK, this is equivalent to the American English word PURGE (purging "deleted" messages, in this case, so that they become simply truly deleted messages. So if compressing is really purging, then what is purging? Read my explanation about databases and their indices: Think of your actual mail-in-a-folder as residing in a database. What you see when you look at a folder is just the *index* (the list of headers). When a message is deleted, it disapperas from the index - but it still resides in the database, as the option "browse deleted messages" proves. In order to get really rid of deleted messages, you need to compress - which is basically rebuilding the database using the index as the criterium. (And yes, compressing and purging is the same in TB, as has been explaioned before.) - K - -- Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise. - Lewis Carroll: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: NO Ticker as default folder setting
On 09-01-2001 at 18:02, Mark Aston kindly wrote: does you know which file TB! stores cookie lines? In account.cfg . - K - -- Has anyone yet said publicly how nice it is to write on rubber with a ballpoint pen? - Nicholson Baker: The Size of Thoughts -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
On 14-01-2001 at 00:10, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote: The information for each The Bat! mail account is apparently stored in a file called ACCOUNT.CFG (stored at drive:\TheBat\Main\Mailbox\), Coorect. Is there a formal description of how this file is made up ? No, unfortunately not. If yes, I could modify my "OnConnect" program to fill in the details of my current ISP and change the SMTP server setting depending on what ISP I'm connected to. This would basically solve my problem altogether. Ah, perhaps what you could do is work with a batch file... Create an account.cfg for all your accounts, store them in a safe place (perhaps drive:\TheBat\Main\extra\), and then have a batch file copy the appriopriate .cfg into your \Main\Mailbox program, so that TB has the correct information for that dial-up available. Then, wehn you connect to another provider, your batch file will copy *that* account's information to the proper place. - K - -- A virus is only doing its job. It's trying to live its life. The fact that it's destroying you by doing so is not its fault. - David Cronenberg in an interview -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: import from Calypso?
On 14-01-2001 at 13:59, Martin Posch kindly wrote: There is for instance one feature of Calypso/Eudora(also Pegasus): I can copy one directory (with calypso one file) form my notebook to my DesktopPc and have my complete Mail-Program-Setup copied. With TheBat! I always had to fiddle with registry-Entries. Nope, you can just copy the new directory and make your laptop version of TB recognise it by pressing Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L (which is the command for: search for unlisted folders). - K - -- Maybe us NOT feeling so good about ourselves is what took us so far; made us the only culture in the world where life is not a toss up between horror and boredom. - Julie Burchill: Sex and Sensibility -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Account configuration file
On 14-01-2001 at 19:01, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote: On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:19:18 +0100, you wrote: [me suggesting batch files connected to dial-up entries, and therein copying the appropriate account.cfg to its proper place] I thought about that, too. But what would happen if you wanted to change something in your account setup? What is stored in those files? Column settings? Filter rules? If you changed these, it could be a real mess to recreate your backup .cfg files :-( The make-multiple-files-and-just-copy-right-one solution had occured to me. but you stated it right on the nose why I'm not feeling very comfortable in doing it that way. If the file _ONLY_ has account details, it wouldn't be a problem. But it appears also templates are stored in it. Create several users and a Grouyp user. Then, in the future, log in to TB using the Group User account. Templates and filters created from the Group User account will appear in *all* account.cgf files. Done ;-) - K - -- If God had not given freedom of speech to the snake, then none of us would be here today. Perhaps the followers of God should remember this when they criticize the followers of the snake for speaking their minds, and vice versa. - Zenon Panoussis -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Last reply quotation
On 15-01-2001 at 14:01, Michal Kozusznik kindly wrote: Can TB! include last sender sentences to the replying mail only? I mean situation when I want not quotation from previous senders? No, but TB comes close: Select the text that you want to reply to and press F4. Only the selection will be there, as a quote, and the rest of the mail won't be included. - K - -- She's selfish and cruel as only the weak can be - because cruelty is all she has to keep her safe. - Kathryn Harrison: The Kiss -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hai, newmember..and small template
On 15-01-2001 at 20:10, solid snake kindly wrote: I don't know how to change WIndows Time, It's can't changed Go to Start -- Settings -- Control Panel -- Regional settings Select the "Time" tab and tell it to use HH:mm:ss . Done. - K - -- What if the Christ and the Messiah come, and they're two different guys? Would they debate on television? Would they lead their faithful off two different rewards, separate, restricted heavens? - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: splitting TBUDL
On 16-01-2001 at 17:56, Ming-Li kindly wrote: [on spliiting lists] I don't know about you, but I'll be in trouble. Where should I post? Is this too advanced (tech-oriented) or not? Should TBUDL no longer discuss anything about RegEx? Or Windows registry? Exactly what I thought, too. And there is a risk that people will crosspost, thereby creating double postings for those who are on both lists. (Then again, I'm sure that a techie will come up with a nice filter that automatically kills those dupes ;-)) I hope that threads will simply be *moved* from the one list to the other; upgraded, as it were. For the rest, I understand the need for a split in a techie a newbie list, if only for volume size (and I'll subscribe to both) - K - -- I cry with the intention of getting my mother in trouble, cry harder and longer, learning the power of vengeance. - Kathryn Harrison: The Kiss -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: I just want the filters to work
On 29-01-2001 at 17:29, Pasquale J. Festa Sr. kindly wrote: I don't care if the mail is a 5th reply of a fifth reply if it has [EMAIL PROTECTED] or any variations to send that mail to the bat folder on retrieval or the Opera folder for anything in the header that says opera.com or its variations. Easy. Go to Sorting Office (under Account in the main window), select Incoming Mail, select New, give the filter a name, use Source Folder: Inbox, Move Messages to [your Bat folder], and then put in: Strings:Location Presence [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sender Yes and make sure that you tick the "Rule is active" box. Done. - K - -- Many bastards succeed. But I, I've learned nothing. I can't even elegantly bleed. - Swans: Failure -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help! where have all my menus gone?
On 30-01-2001 at 15:13, Wolfgang Kynast kindly wrote: i need som assistance from Swedes in the group, where could the key be on the Swedish keyboard which on an american keyboard gives a slash sign? KS The / key is above the 7: press Shift-7. I'm afraid this won't work because you have to press ctrl-shift-alt and the key we are looking for simultanously :-) No, not on *Swedish* keyboards, which is what Kirsten asked about. (I have a Swedish keyboard right next to me. I know.) - K - -- I've often thought that there should be beauty contests for the insides of bodies. - David Cronenberg: Dead Ringers -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: What newsreader do you use?
On 02-02-2001 at 18:07, John kindly wrote: Since the Bat! does not read news for the moment (I understand this function will be added in a near future), which newsreader do you either use or recommend? Many people here use Agent, or its free derivate Free Agent. - K - -- When women hold off from marrying men, we call it independence. When men hold off from marrying women, we call it fear of commitment. - Warren Farrell, American psychologist -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TB! 1.49 Registration turnaround time?
On 04-02-2001 at 18:54, Mark Knipfer kindly wrote: Does anyone know the turn around time on receiving TheBat! registration information? Usually it takes no more than two working days. - K - -- ... she had come to realise that Authority, even when it refrained from violence, could be as disturbing a specter as anything she had seen. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Documenation woes
On 16-02-2001 at 23:32, Nick Andriash kindly wrote: On February 16, 2001, at 2:15:16 PM, Lyle Scully Wrote: LS I am the CTO for a medium sized ISP here in the US, and 90% of my LS clients are businesses that don't have time to sit and fiddle with a LS program to figure it out. Yes, I tend to agree with you about the lack of documentation. However, if you are the SysAdmin for your Company, I don't think that Lyle is talking about his collegues. He's talking about the ISP customers - and fortunately, ISPs do not have access to their clients' workstations ;-) - K - -- Gay men are men first, and men are pigs. If straight men could get laid as easily and frequently as gay men, they would. - Columnist Dan Savage, Out magazine, January 2001 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Importing Outlook Contacts
On 17-02-2001 at 01:18, Mike Yetto kindly wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, at 15:54:44 [GMT +0100], Jannik Lindquist wrote: JL You are quite right, but I thought that it would be easier to export JL from OL to OE and then to TB - than to export to a CSV-format and JL fiddle with fields :-) When I exported from PMMail to TB! I created an entry in the PMMail address book with the name of the field as the data in the field. After exporting to a CSV-format I moved this entry to the top of the file. TB!'s import function then suggested the correct mapping for each corresponding field. When I installed TB! on a friend's computer, I exported their Outlook address books as a comma-delimited file and imported that into TB's address book. It went beautifully. - K - -- She's selfish and cruel as only the weak can be - because cruelty is all she has to keep her safe. - Kathryn Harrison: The Kiss -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Moderators: Point of Order
On 17-02-2001 at 01:41, Mike Yetto kindly wrote: many people do reply to the last message they read rather than creating a new thread Fortunately, it is not many people who do so. and my question concerns the proper way to handle this. Should the moderators immediately start a new thread before it gets buried in something many of us may already be skipping? Is this even possible? I'd suggest that whoever answers to such a message, takes the effort to turn their reply into a new message, thereby achieving the goal: the ensuing thread will be pulled out of the old, existing one, and will be clearly visible to all. While I do realise that in this way we suddenly might see two new threads emerge, or perhaps even three, when more people answer and create new threads, I don't think it's fair for us to sit and wait until the moderators do something. Does anyone have something else for the moderators to think about this weekend? What about sex, life and the meaning of the universe? ;-) - K - -- This is the land of opportunity, gentlemen. You have the opportunity to turn yourself in. - General Devereaux in The Siege -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Moderators: Point of Order
On 17-02-2001 at 03:01, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote: Mike Yetto wrote and made these points: [how to deal with new postings that are actually sent as a reply to an existing thread - one needs to start a new tread on one's reply] but you have to change both the Subject and the Follow-up information. The Follow-up information? I only know this as a newsgroup header... [checks her TBDUL / TBTECH mail headers] Ahhh! This is where you can break the chain of references, and create a new, fresh reply indeed, as in: bereft of ancestors. Chut. I thought I knew most of what TB had to offer - but I am *still* learning. - K - -- Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as Scientology. - ex-member Thunderclouds motorcycle club -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: (No Subject)
On 19-02-2001 at 20:20, áÎÄÒÅÊ òÑÂËÏ× kindly wrote: ÍÏÖÎÏ ÌÉ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÙ×ÁÔØ THE BAT ÎÁ macentosh? Nope, not for the Mac. - K - -- At last official count nearly 500 gay and lesbian couples had been united in civil unions this summer in Vermont. There were flowers, champagne, brides and brides, grooms and grooms. The sky did not fall. The earth did not split in two. Happy families and happy friends watched happy people pledge their love. - Columnist Anna Quindlen, Newsweek, Sept. 11 2000. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: 3x SMTP in one account?
On 20-02-2001 at 00:19, Wim Speekenbrink kindly wrote: I have 3 ISP's and therefore 3 different SMTP servers. I only use 1 e-mail adress (= 1 pop3 server). Is it really necessary to create 3 accounts If you get mail at the other accounts (and can't put a .forward on them): yes. However, there is an excellent work-around that Januk has described previously. You can find it on the TBUDL archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg16048.html And if you need help, I might be able to provide that to you. or is it possible to have 3 SMTP servers within 1 account? Nope. - K - -- The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. - Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A backing-up story
On 24-02-2001 at 12:54, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: 24 Feb 2001 14:11:13 +1000, K graced us with these comments: K Well during that time I sorted out a K neat backup method that I still use in favor of the TB! Backup K Function, here's what I do: --procedure snipped-- K It works for me, I like it. My problem with it is the lack of automation and this is why I don't use TB!'s backup facility. I don't think of backing up but it just happens. My active accounts and registry key are backed up every morning at 4am and my archive account backed up weekly by using the system scheduler, WinRAR and two batch files. RAR archives are created and placed on a 250MB zip disk. I fully agree. I use a similar procedure (incremental backups via a batch file that is calling arj, in combination with a scheduler that starts the whole thing at 7 a.m.), but I have added one important step: encrypting the backup. I might be a tad paranoid - the "Church" of Scientology is after me, and in such cases one can't be too cautious - but I really believe that all private communications should be stored encrypted. I also use a PGP-disk as my mail repository. - K - -- Did you ever read poor old George Orwell's 1984? Yes, yes, that's wonderful. That would be - could be the palest imagined shadow of what a world would be like under the rule of the secret use of Scientology with no remedy in existence. - Scientology's founder L. Ron Hubbard, PDC tape 20 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
On 24-02-2001 at 07:47, Thomas kindly wrote: I always have a couple hundred to a couple of throusand messages in the inbox. It's for those senders that do not warrant their own folder. That's a *lot* for an inbox. When the traffic with these senders increases, I will create a folder, because it annoys me that incoming and outgoing messages are in seperate folders, this being the major reason. You could consider to create chronological folders for this. That's what I do: apart from separate folders for some people, I store my mail per year amd within that, per month. When the month is done I move my sent mail to that folder too. - K - -- The charm of self-inflicted insults comes in knowing how far to dig the knife and, with a surgeon's precision, how to avoid the rawest nerves. It is as harmless a sport as tickling oneself. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: A backing-up story
On 24-02-2001 at 17:29, Alexander Levenetz kindly wrote: encrypting the backup. How do you do that exactly? Here's my batch file for incremental backups encryption: @echo off set path=c:\utils\backup;e:\backups\h-drive set tz=met-1dst c:\utils\arj\arj32 a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink I'll break up the last two lines: c:\utils\arj\arj32 That's where my arj32.exe resides; a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt The switches for arj.exe: a = archive -r= use recursive directories -hm0 = to manage huge file lists -i2 = provides a combined percentage and bar progress display -h# = append current date/time string -jm = select high size reduction -b1 = backup changed files and reset archive bits -x[x] = exclude the files named in [x] e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* Bsckup target and backup source This results in files in the format H-010223.arj (for 23 Feb 2001). In the last line, this file is encrypted (conventional encryption), using the key stored in the backup directory: c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink -e = encrypt file -w = wipe original That's it. It's executed in well under five minutes, using a P600. - K - -- If babies are innocent, it is not for lack of will to harm, but for lack of strength. - St Augustine of Hippo, Confessions -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Ouch! Where Are My Messages?
On 24-02-2001 at 17:33, Keith Russell kindly wrote: If needs be, you can check your whole account for a specific mail. I have just under 90.000 messages stored, and TB goes through them *real* fast. How do you search a whole account? Last time I checked, I couldn't manage to do that. Clearly, I missed something. In the first screen that comes up when you search, there's a small list: Look in: O Folder O Include subfolders O Curent account O All accounts - K - -- Being an artist is not a profession. It is a dilemma. - Performer and artist Ulay -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso
On 24-02-2001 at 21:06, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote: On Saturday, February 24, 2001 at 7:46:57 PM Jannik wrote: (BTW, you really ought to have a look at Agent as well!) As a mailer? I am always recommending it as a newsreader. In this area it is very good. As mailer? No internal PGP support, no subfolders ... Actually, there *is* a plugin for Agent to accomodate for PGP. I have even posted about it... scratches head For the life of me, I can't find that message. - K - -- Capricorns don't believe in astrology. - Daniel Richler: Kicking Tomorrow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Agent PGP (was: The Bat compared to Becky and Calypso)
On 24-02-2001 at 21:59, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote: On Saturday, February 24, 2001 at 9:50:16 PM Dierk wrote: Actually, there *is* a plugin for Agent to accomodate for PGP. I have even posted about it... scratches head Do you mean CryptEdit? that's a kind of front end for the 5.5.x versions not needed anymore since 6.0.2, Nope, is was a real plugin and apparently took care of everything, just like TB's does. I went to www.forteinc.com to see if they perhaps list plug-ins, but they don't. checks Google for Agent and plug-ins Found it! Actually, there are several plug-ins for integarted use of PGP from within Agent. For the full list of Agent plug-ins, check http://www.skuz.net/madhat/agent/util.html - K - -- I am an optimist, but about nothing. - Painter Francis Bacon -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Kill Dupes
On 07-03-2001 at 15:02, John kindly wrote: I know there are dupes as some messages may have been imported more than once. So I used "Kill Dupes". To my surprise identical messages (Text, Sender, Recipient are identical except Received dates which are different)remained in the folder. Kill Dupes uses *only* message ID to find duplicates. Are you sure that you haven't received multiple copies? Alternatively: Can you post the headers of two of these identical messages here, such as left untouched by the Kill Dupes command? - K - -- Success can eliminate as many options as failure. - Tom Robbins -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mass Mailing Feature / in Filters? (Hard One)
On 08-03-2001 at 08:07, Thomas Speer kindly wrote: Is there any chance to do the folowing: I'd like to forward a mail I got to a Group of People. But all schould get a personalized mail saying: #Start of mail Hello "%TOFNAME" this Mail I got from . should be important for you too... *forwarded mail* %Quotes *end of forwardet mail* "sig" #End of Mail --- So my thougt was creating a filter (trigered by Shortcut) that is sending out the replys to the People! This works as long as I am not trying to Personalize those mails which I would like to! Januk came up with something last January that might be helpful: = Original message text === From: Januk Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dierk Haasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001, Subject: Mass mailing using template Hello Dierk, On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 at 22:45:50 GMT +0100 (which was 1:45 PM where I live) witnesses say Dierk Haasis typed: Yip, when I tried it I - luckily - made it this way. So I could see that the mass mailing option still needs some work-over. To be specific: I want those messages not only with the QT but the actual AB templates (for personality). I'm not sure I follow what you mean. You are *completely* defining the message to be sent to any given individual in the QT. How could TB alter that message to include aspects of your AB templates? Having said that, you can make it more variable by using some creative QT handles and using the %ABxxxPPP macros. For example, define a couple of QT's for greetings called "greet-business", "greet-personal" and "greet-". Now in your AB, use some unused field and fill in "business " or "personal " or nothing depending on which of the three templates you want to use. Now in your Mass Mailing QT, use %ABtoXXX to access that field. I'm going to assume you use the MEMO field. The end result looks like: %QINCLUDE="greet-%ABtoMEMO" Change the "greet-" part to reflect the different parts of your message (eg. Signature, Quote-style, etc.) You can also use regular expressions to get some flexibility too. For example, I have the following greeting macro so that I get "Hi ..." if you're in my address book, and "Hello ..." if you're not. example %SETPATTREGEXP="(?(?=Hi\s;;)Hi\s;;(.*)|(.*);;)"%REGEXPMATCH="Hi %ABtoFIRSTNAME;;Hello %TOFNAME"%SUBPATT="2", /example And you have to either enter text in the editor (try your computer by opening a mass mailing with 1500 addressees in the editor!) or make individual QT beforehand for every mailing that is different; the last method obviously intended. Yep. The only way to make things slightly better is to define the main message part of the template in an external file and use the %INCLUDE macro to insert it into the QT. So now you don't have to edit the *whole* template every time. You only have to edit the variable part. Depending on the complexity of your template, this may be worthwhile. = End original message text === - K - -- When I turned thirty, I broke off diplomatic relations with the Pepsi generation. Any hip young people want to communicate with me, they have to go through the Swiss. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Search AB
On 07-03-2001 at 00:17, syv kindly wrote: I have a dozen of phone books and groups. When I search for somebody, TB places it in the Search Result. But I don't know which AB and which group it belongs to. Open Address boek, search, and then right click on the name and select properties. You'll see all the groups that the person belongs to. - K - -- Capricorns don't believe in astrology. - Daniel Richler: Kicking Tomorrow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - NoCanvasHandle
On 09-03-2001 at 18:27, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: MG Anybody know how to pinpoint the culprit under NT 4? Is there a MG GDI resource monitor just like for win 9x? Use the NT Taskmanager. Go to View - Select Objects and choose 'GDI handles'. Huh? I can't find a "Select Objects" item in the task manager View menu. (I'm running NT4 SP6.) - K - -- As you go on living with someone, you slowly lose the power to make them happy, while your capacity to hurt them remains undiminished. - Julian Barnes: Talking it Over -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - NoCanvasHandle
On 09-03-2001 at 22:13, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:34:47 +0100, Karin thoughtfully wrote the following: KS Huh? I can't find a "Select Objects" item in the task manager View KS menu. Sorry. That should be 'select columns'. Though this is what I see in Win2k, I think WinNT should support this. Ah, that one. Thanks! - K - -- Zwei Dinge sind unendlich: Die Dummheit und das All Nur die Liebe und das Wetter hren nimmer, nimmer auf - Einstrzende Neubauten: Was ist ist -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Kill Dupes
On 11-03-2001 at 19:54, jlaikan kindly wrote: So I used "Kill Dupes". To my surprise identical messages (Text, Sender, Recipient are identical except Received dates which are different)remained in the folder. KS Kill Dupes uses *only* message ID to find duplicates. Are KS you sure that you haven't received multiple copies? KS Alternatively: Can you post the headers of two of these KS identical messages here, such as left untouched by the Kill KS Dupes command? I thought my problems with dupes are definitely solved, unfortunately not. I copied messages imported from Eudora Light3.0 twice into a folder, thinking that Kill Dupes would remove duplicates. I found out that none of these messages displayed their mailer or message ID (even if Mailer and Message ID are checked in View/Message Header/Message ID). Ah, but that is one of Eudora's really big shortcomings (which I unfortunately only found out about *after* I had moved to The Bat; had I known before, I would have migrated much earlier): until version 4.x, Eudora didn't create message-IDs for outgoing mail. Which in turn means that there is nothing for TB to check when you order it to kill dupes, because TB looks at message-IDs. Kill Dupes did not remove the duplicates (ALL messages are duplicated)which start like this(RCF-822 headers being checked):- To: "Maximum Output Software" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "L.S.K. Lai kan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FILEBACK PC ALERT See? No message-ID - K - -- If New Age had been holding the wheel that steered the twentieth century, we would have nothing black, nothing sexy, nothing sleazy. - Julie Burchill: Sex and Sensibility -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Kill Dupes
On 11-03-2001 at 20:29, jlaikan kindly wrote: Please ignore my previous message. I am posting it again because I became aware that I didn't give complete Headers. Sorry for that. The answer is nevertheless the same. Look at the headers: there are no message-IDs. - K - -- When I turned thirty, I broke off diplomatic relations with the Pepsi generation. Any hip young people want to communicate with me, they have to go through the Swiss. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: automatic backups
On 12-03-2001 at 19:55, Tony Owens kindly wrote: I'd like TB! to automatically backup all my mail accounts periodically or, if this isn't possible, to periodically remind me to backup manually. From two earlier postings of mine: === fwd 1 === I use .. incremental backups via a batch file that is calling arj, in combination with a scheduler that starts the whole thing at 7 a.m., but I have added one important step: encrypting the backup. I might be a tad paranoid - the "Church" of Scientology is after me, and in such cases one can't be too cautious - but I really believe that all private communications should be stored encrypted. I also use a PGP-disk as my mail repository. === fwd 2 === Here's my batch file for incremental backups encryption: @echo off set path=c:\utils\backup;e:\backups\h-drive set tz=met-1dst c:\utils\arj\arj32 a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink I'll break up the last two lines: c:\utils\arj\arj32 That's where my arj32.exe resides; a -r -hm0 -i2 -h# -jm -b1 -x!c:\utils\backup\h-exclude.txt The switches for arj.exe: a = archive -r= use recursive directories -hm0 = to manage huge file lists -i2 = provides a combined percentage and bar progress display -h# = append current date/time string -jm = select high size reduction -b1 = backup changed files and reset archive bits -x[x] = exclude the files named in [x] e:\backups\h-drive\h- h:\*.* Backup target and backup source This results in files in the format H-010223.arj (for 23 Feb 2001). In the last line, this file is encrypted (conventional encryption), using the key stored in the backup directory: c:\utils\backup\pgp23 -e -w e:\backups\h-drive\h-*.arj Karin Spaink -e = encrypt file -w = wipe original That's it. It's executed in well under five minutes, using a P600. === end fwd === - K - -- Biographies rely on butch criteria: a life is plotted according to the markers of death, marriage, professional appointment, murder and military campaigns. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?
On 15-03-2001 at 00:38, Mike Yetto kindly wrote: I think that more than just you and I would like to see filters that pertain to all folders and can target the mail to the current folder. By that I mean the message can start in any folder, be acted on, and remain where it is. Seconded. Just like I would love to be able to change standard templates in one go for all folders, instead of needing to go through each and every folder seperately. Tip for the developers: Agent has a nice solution for newsgroup properties. You have "general properties" and properties that pertain specific groups. It would for instance be nice to be able *all* standard forwarding templates in one go. - K - -- I am an optimist. but about nothing. - Painter Francis Bacon -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there a way to make a Read Messages filter work with all folders?
On 15-03-2001 at 02:09, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:55:22 +0100, Karin contributed: KS Just like I would love to be able to change KS standard templates in one go for all folders, instead of KS needing to go through each and every folder seperately. Two things which may help you in this regard. If you delete the templates from a folder, close the folder properties and reopen them, you'll see the default templates there. These are the templates found in the account properties. If you change the default template properties, this will be reflected in all folders using the default templates. True, but then I'd lose all folder specific settings... Quick templates and the %Qinclude="qt handle macro can help a lot as well. Construct your template as a quick template and then where ever you wish to use the template you use the %Qinclude macro. That's a nice work-around, thanks! - K - -- Many bastards succeed. But I, I've learned nothing. I can't even elegantly bleed. - Swans: Failure -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID macro?
I want to include the message-ID of the original when I forward a message. However, OMSGID doesn't work, while according to the help file this macro "inserts the original messages Message ID (taken from the message headers)". Any ideas? - K - -- If babies are innocent, it is not for lack of will to harm, but for lack of strength. - St Augustine of Hippo, Confessions -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Message-ID macro?
On 15-03-2001 at 12:37, Thomas kindly wrote: Hi Karin, KS OMSGID Do you mean %OMSGID (percent instead of ampersand)? rubs her eyes, slaps herself severly Arggh. I shouldn't be doing this when I'm just out of bed. Thanks! - K - -- Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as Scientology. - ex-member Thunderclouds motorcycle club -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: From Outlook 2000 to TheBat! and then...
On 28-03-2001 at 14:34, Fabio Colonnello kindly wrote: My last question: what if I want to go back to another mail program !? Is it possibile to export mail archive from theBat! ? I take some tries but I was unable to export my mails Go to the main window, select Tools, Export Messages, and select either .msg format or Unix format. The Unix format can be read by most programs. (As for your other question: I can't help you there.) - K - -- Maybe Ellen Cherry Charles didn't look like a million dollars, but nobody could deny that she looked like the *tax* on a million dollars. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Address book hassle
For friends, I have set up a small network (two computers, both running WinNT) using TheBat. The program resides on computer A. All users have their own accounts, plus they have access to the company's main account. There is also an admin account, from which you can access all other accounts. The address book resides in d:\thebat\admin . The hassle is that they keep "losing" the address book. When they want to enter a handle, TB sometimes can't find the address book and looks either in the program directory (c:\internet\thebat\) or in one of the user directories (d:\thebat\user). In order to find the standard, common address book they need to go to Tools - Address book - File - Open Address book and navigate to d:\thebat\admin and click on the AB, and then TB remembers for some time. Is there any way to make TB remember once and for all? - K - -- People say when they cuddle they're like spoons, but we're a drawerful of knives and forks. - Daniel Richler: Kicking Tomorrow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Address book hassle
On 28-03-2001 at 20:52, Ming-Li kindly wrote: On Wednesday, March 28, 2001 at 20:19:23 +0200 Karin Spaink wrote: For friends, I have set up a small network (two computers, both running WinNT) using TheBat. The program resides on computer A. All users have their own accounts, plus they have access to the company's main account. There is also an admin account, from which you can access all other accounts. The address book resides in d:\thebat\admin . The hassle is that they keep "losing" the address book. I believe you're using one of the newest version (older versions store the information in the registry), The use TB 1.51. so AFAIK the only place TB stores the location and name of the ABs in use in "AddrBook.INI" under the main directory of the message base (or the "working directory" as TB calls it). Please check all network HDs to see if there're other copies of the same .ini elsewhere. There's only one AddrBook.ini and it listed the correct place. How do they normally use the computers? Do you log-in (into Windows, not TB) with different accounts? If so, I suspect there're some discrepancies as to where the "working directory" is at. The location is stored in the registry under the key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat! Since every Windows account has its own "HKEY_CURRENT_USER" tree, they might not share the same value for the "Working Directory" entry. And there are two computers, each with its own user accounts. Right. Indeed most users had a wrong key there, which I have dutifully corrected. The problem seems to be fixed now. Thanks! But this means that although AddrBook.ini is supposed to tell the program where to look for the address book, actually the registry entry takes precedence... - K - -- England and America are two countries separated by the same language. - George Bernard Shaw, Reader's Digest, November 1942 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder settings (was: Changing message replyto via filter)
On 30-03-2001 at 10:30, Lars Geiger kindly wrote: If you want to change the settings for all folders (at least for all of one account) I would suggest using the keyboard. That's a pretty fast way for doing such a general change. Mark the first folder and press ALTENTER, ALTU, ENTER, DOWNARROW. You can repeat this sequence until all your folder settings are corrected. Yammie! I never realised that. I had some quite folders to correct as well, and could never bring myself to go through the hassle. But this *is* a fast procedure. Thanks! - K - -- Our society desperately needs monsters to reclaim its own moral virginity. - Sylvre Lotringer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
On 30-03-2001 at 20:13, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: Karin wrote: [memos] KS I wish it were. I never use the preview window; I read mail KS using the folder view and then hop from message to message. KS For me, that means that memo's are inaccesible: I can write KS one but you can't save it. Try the following: Open a view folder window and then hit Ctrl+Shift+I. This should open the memo view window. The 'save' and 'clear' toolbar buttons should be blanked out so trying to create a memo for the currently selected message would be futile. Now select another message in the message list. You should now see the memo window toolbar buttons become active and you can now create the memo via the view folder window. Blimey, you're right - although it is a bit buggy. I might actualy start using memos from now on. Thanks, Allie. [me quoting Marck's old rant] KS The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window. More responsive? Would you explain what you mean here? Erm, that was form an old message from Marck. You'd better ask him ;-) - K - -- Capricorns don't believe in astrology. - Daniel Richler: Kicking Tomorrow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
On 31-03-2001 at 14:49, Jan Rifkinson kindly wrote: Hello Karin, Karin I might actualy start using memos from now on. The only use I've found for memos is to use them as an alphabetical list of tech notes. May I ask what you are thinking about using the memo function for? To jot down notes for the reply. (Often I read mail and don't reply immediately. Sometimes I thus forget a few points that I wanted to make.) - K - -- Problems are only opportunities in work clothes. - Henry Kaiser -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: encrypted mail saving !?
On 03-04-2001 at 08:05, Armin Schweitzer kindly wrote: But I just saw that the files that stores the mail are not encrypted. Is there a way to keep them encrypted? No. The only way to keep them encrypted is to use an encrption program, such as PGP-disk. It's because we're having our user home directories on a central server. I use passwords for my email-accounts. But as far as the files contain the messages in plain-text it's not worth much. I'm using TB under NT4 SP6a and Win2k SP1 and the Mail-directory is stored on a Sparc-Workstation using Samba. Under WinNT you can set up private directories for users that other users cannot access. Perhaps that's the way to go about it... - K - -- I actually don't think I'm the first ever transsexual member of parliament in the world. Margaret Thatcher beat me to it by a number of years. - New Zealand MP Georgina Beyer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Auto Forwarding Filter / Template; Is It Possible?
On 06-04-2001 at 21:34, Paddy L kindly wrote: Looking at: Account Sorting Office Filters Actions, there is no forwarding option. What am I missing? Go to Sorting Office, selct Incoming mail, and create the appropriate filter. Then, under the Action tab, scroll down until you see Send Auto-reply and Forward to The icon next to it will light up and you can put in all that you want: hardcoded recipients, standard text, macros and what have you. Then go to the Options tab, and click "send generated messages - immediately". There! - K - -- Capricorns don't believe in astrology. - Daniel Richler: Kicking Tomorrow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connection to host broken ....
On 10-04-2001 at 05:17, Jody Watts kindly wrote: I keep getting a message: !4/9/2001, 22:08:27: FETCH - Connection to host broken (last commands sent were: "RETR 2", "RETR 3") This started about a week ago. When it happens, most of the mail from the server is downloaded, but NONE is deleted and the next time it checks mail, it will download the same messages, fails again and so the cycle continues. Have you tried to delete that one particular mail using the despatcher? In your main TB window, go to Account and select "Dispatch mail on server". TB will start reading all your mail on the server and will show you a list of them; from that window, you can proceed to delete (or download) mail. Delete the one mail that's creating havoc, press "Execute", close the despatcher and try to fetch mail in the standard way. - K - -- There is no conspiracy. Nobody is in charge. It's a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a master plan. - The Cube, 1997 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Why so many undeleted bat-tmp files in the temp-directory?
On 12-04-2001 at 16:54, Jonathan Wayne kindly wrote: Unless you tell me that this reply looked OK, I'm going to abandon replying to any more messages with this email client - Lotus Notes - which I hate immensely but have to use at work! Completely inflexible. I'd dump Lotus Notes immediately. What it apparently does, is re-create both the headers and the body of the message that you are replying to, and present them in a kind of ascii-box. |+- || Dierk Haasis | || [EMAIL PROTECTED] | || | || Sent by: | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || om| || | || | || | || Thursday April 12, 2001 10:40 | || AM| || Please respond to TBUDL | || | |+- ... and that's just the *header*. - K - -- Zwei Dinge sind unendlich: Die Dummheit und das All Nur die Liebe und das Wetter hren nimmer, nimmer auf - Einstrzende Neubauten: Was ist ist -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Purging, was:: TB temp files mystery -- an experiment
On 12-04-2001 at 21:55, Dwight A Corrin kindly wrote: Thursday, April 12, 2001, 11:50:11 AM, Ming-Li wrote: I even did a little house cleaning job that I usually do in the weekend: killing dupes in all folders, purging and compressing all folders. Showing my ignorance, I would like to ask: What is purging? It sounds destructive and I have been loathe to test to find out. When you delete a message from a folder, it is not really removed: it is only taken out of the folder's index file (*.tbi). When you purge, it is really deleted. But you also need to compress from time and time: remove old entries (messages) from the messge database (*.tbb). It will reduce the size of your folders and increse operations somewhat. Especially the outbox, inbox and thrash folders will open much quicker after a purge compress. - K - -- "You've got a gift." "It's not a gift. It's just a brain." - The Cube, 1997 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
On 13-04-2001 at 15:54, Pete P kindly wrote: What happened was that I lost sixty messages that were NOT duplicates, all from same person. From his later messages I have discovered that all his messages have the same message-ID!! (..) That is a serious error on his part. Message-IDs are *meant* to be unique. It would have been nice if TB! had told me *what* were the messages it was about to kill... showing the basic "from" and "subject" info for instance. Would be a nice option, indeed. Have you tried to browse that particular folder for deleted messages? You might be able to salvage them that way... Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... It is the only reliable way. But there is no way that TB can foresee that somebody will, agains all RFCs, start using the same message-ID over and over again... - K - -- Biographies rely on butch criteria: a life is plotted according to the markers of death, marriage, professional appointment, murder and military campaigns. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Receiving blank messages- help???
On 13-04-2001 at 16:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] kindly wrote: I have a strange problem that maybe an easy hit for many of the subscribers of this group. That is for some reason I am occasionally receiving blank messages in my inbox- that is to say no headers, from, to, or even text in the message! (not even rfc-822 headers) There's a virus around that does exactly that, but it usually has an attachment. Do you get attachments in these empty mails? (Usually, the subject is "Hahaha".) I get at least four a day. - K - -- At last official count nearly 500 gay and lesbian couples had been united in civil unions this summer in Vermont. There were flowers, champagne, brides and brides, grooms and grooms. The sky did not fall. The earth did not split in two. Happy families and happy friends watched happy people pledge their love. - Columnist Anna Quindlen, Newsweek, Sept. 11 2000. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Killing dupes
On 13-04-2001 at 17:51, Pete P kindly wrote: Hello Karin, KS Have you tried to browse that particular folder for deleted KS messages? You might be able to salvage them that way... Well, I've got most of them back with the list-moderator's help so this is not as disasterous (is that a real word?!) as it first seemed. "disastrous" is the correct word ;-) Now it seems to me that the message-ID isn't a very reliable way to determine which messages are duplicates... KS It is the only reliable way. But there is no way that TB can KS foresee that somebody will, agains all RFCs, start using the KS same message-ID over and over again... Which leads me to a question: how *is* it possible to have same message-ID on several messages?! I'm dumbstruck! Somebody on this list - I think it was sev - set all his mail to have the same message-ID too, until he was warned of the consequences. Sev, can you explain how you did it? - K - -- Laughter is the shortest distance between two people. - Victor Borge -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
On 13-04-2001 at 14:49, Michal Kozusznik kindly wrote: Friday, April 13, 2001, 1:36:17 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TB is designed to be user specific. *Either* use a single windows login and multiple TB users *Or* use multiple Windows logins *and* multiple TB installations. You can probably use a single executable set but will need different mailbase root folders for each user/account. Yep. You're right. I'm doing as you wrote. Hmm. Is it enough to install TB! into the same directory from different windows account (is it the reason of register settings?) You'll need to install TB as Windows administrator. Then, *within* TB, go to Options -- Network Administration -- Groups, and group names: Name1, Name2 etc and give them User rights. Make sure to create one Admin account and give it administrator rights. Assign the appropriate accounts to each name, close TB and restart. TB will ask you for a user name. If you enter that, you'll only see the accounts assigned to that user. - K - -- I do not fear computers. I fear lack of them. - Isaac Asimov -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
On 14-04-2001 at 20:50, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:46:08 +0800, Thomas graced us with these comments: T The moderators are doing too good a job - would mutiny be an option? And how would you go about doing that? Mail *bombing* us??? vbg Collect the e-mail addresses of all frequent posters and start a competing list on my mailserver? devilish grin - K - -- Our society desperately needs monsters to reclaim its own moral virginity. - Sylvre Lotringer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder
On 14-04-2001 at 22:51, Marck D. Pearlstone kindly wrote: Hi Karin, T The moderators are doing too good a job - would mutiny be an option? And how would you go about doing that? Mail *bombing* us??? vbg KS Collect the e-mail addresses of all frequent posters and KS start a competing list on my mailserver? devilish grin Mummy, mummy! Nasty lady took my ball away! Waaah! The lady just published an article on castration, so that figures another devilish grin - K - -- What if the Christ and the Messiah come, and they're two different guys? Would they debate on television? Would they lead their faithful off two different rewards, separate, restricted heavens? - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder - OT
On 15-04-2001 at 01:36, Douglas Hinds kindly wrote: Hello Karin others on this TB! list following this thread, T The moderators are doing too good a job - would mutiny be an option? ACM And how would you go about doing that? Mail *bombing* us??? vbg KS Collect the e-mail addresses of all frequent posters and KS start a competing list on my mailserver? devilish grin It wouldn't be a competing list, as anyone could subscribe to any, all or none. We were discussing how to go about a mutiny, weren't we? Yopu hardly subscribe to a ship that you want to sink ;-) This fundamental issue is: Why do it? Gouglas, we were joking. Seriously. Do you have the necessary expert participation lined up? Me? Yes. I run a number of lists, one of them with almost 600 members. - K - -- If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. - EM Forster: Two Cheers for Democracy -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Change reply-to for a folder - OT
On 15-04-2001 at 05:38, Thomas kindly wrote: moi: Douglas: KS Gouglas, we were joking. Seriously. "Gouglas"? Oh well. What's that stuff you're smoking? Ordinary tobacco. I already privately apologised to Douglas. Do you have the necessary expert participation lined up? Yes, in a police line-up. They have all been caught using *very* *very* dangerous folder templates. Ouch. That is *very* incriminating. KS Me? Yes. I run a number of lists, one of them with almost KS 600 members. Wait until your article about human castration gets published It was. Both in a newspaper and on that particular list ;-) - K - -- Seduction operates somewhere between courtship and rape. - Jenny Newman, Seduction -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Administrator and more
On 16-04-2001 at 23:48, Michal Kozusznik kindly wrote: Saturday, April 14, 2001, 5:12:12 PM, Karin Spaink wrote: You'll need to install TB as Windows administrator. Then, *within* TB, go to Options -- Network Administration -- Groups, and group names: Name1, Name2 etc and give them User rights. Make sure to create one Admin account and give it administrator rights. OK. I'll try. But what account is an Administrator one under W98 ??? I'm not that familioar with Win98; I use NT. But probably your own suggestion would work: Is it this one, without any registering (ESC on user name requester)??? - K - -- Nell discovered that a smoothly functioning system was much harder to puzzle out than one that was broken. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
On 18-04-2001 at 17:50, Olivier Mascia kindly wrote: I'm still with my problem of 'no MailTicker' anymore... NA Have you also tried a Scandisk followed by a Defrag? I hardly see how it could be related to the problem, so I'll take it for humour. Thanks, no I didn't, but I've turned off the microwave oven :-) Try switching off your coffee pot? Alledgedly, TB 2.0 will take care of all your caffeine needs. On a more serious note: you could try to temporarily increase your screen resolution and check whether your ticker has wandered off the screen. You wouldn't be the first victim of an eloped ticker - K - -- You will find me if you want me in the garden unless it's pouring down with rain - Einstrzende Neubauten: The Garden -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: No MailTicker anymore...
On 18-04-2001 at 21:15, Nick Andriash kindly wrote: On April 18, 2001, at 8:50:44 AM, Olivier Mascia wrote: NA Have you also tried a Scandisk followed by a Defrag? I hardly see how it could be related to the problem, so I'll take it for humour. Thanks, no I didn't, but I've turned off the microwave oven :-) A little patronising there Olivier... and not much appreciated. The "if all else fails" suggestion to run Scandisk/Defrag was not meant as humour, But Olivier's reply was. Nick, we've seen plenty of jokes about TB 2.0 being able to make coffee. Actually, I relish the possiblity of it also being able to take care of my microwave ;-) - K - -- When I turned thirty, I broke off diplomatic relations with the Pepsi generation. Any hip young people want to communicate with me, they have to go through the Swiss. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: message vanished
On 19-04-2001 at 01:42, Susanne kindly wrote: I just accidently deleted a message I wanted to keep. I found it in the trash folder and moved it back to the folder I deleted it from, but now it seems to be totally gone. It never appeared in the folder I moved it to and isn't in the trash folder anymore, either. (..) Any ideas how to get it back? If you inadvertedly lost a message in any folder, focus on that folder and go to the main menu -- Folder -- Browse deleted messages. You will then see all moved and deleted messages. (*) From that message list, you can move them to a new destination. (**) * At this level, TB doesn't distinguish between "moved" and "deleted". Both are deleted from the folder's index. ** You cannot move a deleted message from the deleted list back to its original folder: you need to take an intermediate step, e.g. move it to your inbox and reallocate it from there. You can try doing this either from your inbox (since that is where the message must have arrived at first) or from the trash folder (since that is where it was moved from). Another, more elaborate solution is to search through your account for the message. But I realise that you can only do so if you remember part of its header or its content... - K - -- ... she had come to realise that Authority, even when it refrained from violence, could be as disturbing a specter as anything she had seen. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 19-04-2001 at 13:53, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 06:01:38 +0200, Sir wrote these words of wisdom: SJ Where can I find Lucida Console and Lucida Sans Typ? As far as I know these fonts are free but I don't know where to find them so I uploaded them for you. You can get them here: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=FTJRGLRI9210689 When I try to follow the "dowload this file to your computer" link, I get an error message: "This link expired or no longer exists." - K - -- She's selfish and cruel as only the weak can be - because cruelty is all she has to keep her safe. - Kathryn Harrison: The Kiss -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On 21-04-2001 at 18:09, azrael kindly wrote: azreal experiences cursor problems] I don't think it's the mouse drive affecting the cursor. The Bat is the only software showing this behavior. Were I to attempt to place my cursor after the last letter of most words the cursor jumps 1 character left.(but not always?) I suspect some cursor control is not set correctly although it could be mouse driver + Bat settings. Are you referring to your text getting indented more with each new paragraph? I suspect it is the "smart tabs" option or the "auto-indent" option set in the Editor Preferences (under Options). If you have any of these switched on, you might just have found the solution. - K - -- If I had to choose between betraying my country and betraying my friend, I hope I should have the guts to betray my country. - EM Forster: Two Cheers for Democracy -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Auto-wraping of quoted text on reply ?
On 22-04-2001 at 16:14, Alexander Levenetz kindly wrote: Hello Allie, The %Wrapped macro is still very useful because it may be used to wrap introductions, cookies and other single paragraphs. Maybe a stupid question but why would I want to include cookies in an email?? If you think of the cookies that websites place on your computer, you're right: that's useless. But the term 'cookies' also refers to random signatures, such as mine. (*This* definition of cookies is, I believe, derived from Chinese fortune cookies.) I have a file in which I store quites that I like, and those are selected randomly and then added to my signature. They are generated by putting %cookie in my templates. - K - -- As you go on living with someone, you slowly lose the power to make them happy, while your capacity to hurt them remains undiminished. - Julian Barnes: Talking it Over -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
On 28-04-2001 at 20:02, PFord kindly wrote: So, I was thinking that I might switch to using Agent for both newsgroups and mailing lists, keeping The Bat! for non-mailing list use, but that would be a kludgy workaround. I'd rather find a way to get my newsgroups messages into The Bat! Easy, but it takes some time. Go to a folder in Agent, select all messages (using ctrl-A), go to File - Save Messages As, and select Unix Message File and give the file a name. Then, in TB, create a new folder, and import them as Unix Mailboxes. Done! - K - -- There is no conspiracy. Nobody is in charge. It's a headless blunder operating under the illusion of a master plan. - The Cube, 1997 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Sorting Office/Filters
On 02-05-2001 at 18:59, Frederick Fisher Jr. kindly wrote: I was a bit wrong in my last message...I don't have to hit re-filter to get a message to show up in the correct color group. It seems that as soon as a message is marked read that it will show up correctly... I'm afraid that your problem is that whith unread messages, the colour simply doesn't show. Try making a coloured message unread and watch the colour change to black, instead of to fat colour :-( - K - -- When I get my hands on some money, I'll kiss it's green skin And I'll ask it's dirty face: where the hell have you been? - Swans: Failure -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Step-by-step for moving TB
On 03-05-2001 at 06:40, Jan Rifkinson kindly wrote: Hi Jason, Jason I bought the new computer from Dell and Jason everything was pre-installed, Having gone thru the same process myself on a new Dell I strongly suggest you have tech support point you to the Dell document that lists describes all the loaded programs/products that startup automatically, then dump more than half of those that you won't need. This cleans up the machine considerably, speeds it up reduces a lot of lockups/crashes, etc. Plus: be *very* sure to make good backups. If something crashes and you need to reinstall, the Dell recovery CD will simply create a clean system. Oops. All data gone. - K - -- His apparent self-possession was really the fragile stasis of an ancient vase and if he had let himself be moved, or show feeling, he would have broken into a thousand pieces. - Alan Judd: The Devil's Own Work -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The wish list (was: Auto-expand messages lists ?)
On 03-05-2001 at 10:39, Thomas kindly wrote: Olivier Mascia wrote: OM Where could I : a) read the current wish list, Must be a trade secret. We only remember what is in there, because people usually announce this here. There used to be a wish list at konstantine-online.de or so, I don't know whether it still exists. It's still there: http://www.konstantin-online.de/bat/ - K - -- Conformity or rebellion? Neither one. Both ways are simple-minded - they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Message flags
On 05-05-2001 at 16:43, Silviu Cojocaru kindly wrote: What are message flags good for ? To designate the meaning *you* attach to them. Some people use flags to mark urgent mails, others use them to yet-to- be-replied to mails, etc. - K - -- Inessential insanities get one in trouble with oneself. Essential insanities get one in trouble with others. It's always preferable to be in trouble with others. In fact, it may be essential. - Tom Robbins: Still Life With Woodpecker -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Cursor under the wrong message
On 05-05-2001 at 17:07, Sir Jinx! kindly wrote: Although I sort my messages by creation time, in ascending order, when I jump to a new folder [TBUDL or any other], the cursor almost always falls in the middle of the message list! What i the cause of this annoying behavior? I witnessed the same behaviour in a few - not all - folders. As it turns out, the reason is that those folders, in folder view, were arranged by subject; and since TB does remember where its cursor was last located, it will return to that place. Solution: switch to sorting by creation/received time in folder view. - K - -- Horror film characters are forever watching horror movies, either in theatres or on television at home, and not a few horror plots turn on the horrifying consequences of looking at horror. - Carol Clover: Men, women and chainsaws -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: unopened message icon
On 06-05-2001 at 16:37, Dwight A Corrin kindly wrote: What is the difference between an unopened message with a yellow envelope icon and one with a red one? The red one is a high-priority message. - K - -- What if the Christ and the Messiah come, and they're two different guys? Would they debate on television? Would they lead their faithful off two different rewards, separate, restricted heavens? - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
*.tmp files problem
Ever since I moved to v1.52 - yesterday evening - zero bytes *.tmp files have started to accumulate in my c:\temp directory. By now, I have 25 of them; some of them survived shutting down TB overnight and can't be deleted (I assume I'd need to shut down my computer before I can do that). Annoying. - K - -- [Religion] is not merely the opium of the masses, it is the cyanide. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: *.tmp files problem
On 06-05-2001 at 17:57, Ron Secord kindly wrote: Hi Karin, KS Ever since I moved to v1.52 - yesterday evening - zero bytes KS *.tmp files have started to accumulate in my c:\temp KS directory. There was a big debate about this back around Beta 10 or 11 and it seemed at the time that just about everyone was affected by the .tmp files. I know. At the tiime, I didn't have them. Now, since yesterday and since switching to 1.52 (not beta) I suddenly have them. - K - -- Conformity or rebellion? Neither one. Both ways are simple-minded - they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Edit received messages
On 06-05-2001 at 18:13, Anne-Sophie Hombert kindly wrote: Up to now, I've been using the following: export the message(s) to *.mbx format, edit it(them) and then reimport in TB! It works fine but I was just wondering if there was a faster way to do this? Move the message to the Outbox, edit and move back. The drawback is that message-ID and date will change. An alternative to your apporoach is to export only that *one* message (in .msg format), edit it and reimport. - K - -- I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
The Bat! 1.52 - bug report
[Actually, this is a copy of a bug report I submitted for TB 1.48. It still persists.] I'm using The Bat! Version 1.52 Serial Number F6B77929 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 The bug description: When deleting a few mails simultaneously in an open thread in Folder View, the body part of the screen turns blank. If you then move to any message, bodies are shown again but the buttons in the folder view are greyed and unusable. Steps to reproduce the bug: Set your Folder view to Thread by reference, ordered by subject. Open a tread and delete all (or a few) messages within that thread. The cursor in the message list will jump to the higher message and the lower part of the folder view, where the body of a message is supposed to be shown, goes blank. At the same time all buttons are greyed out and unusable. If you then click on a message in Folder view, the body window gets restored but the buttons remain 'dead'. The only way to fully restore all functions is to close and reopen the folder. - K - -- Conformity or rebellion? Neither one. Both ways are simple-minded - they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. - Neil Stephenson: The Diamond Age -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Changing message replyto via filter
On 29-03-2001 at 22:09, Dwight A Corrin kindly wrote: Thursday, March 29, 2001, 1:28:54 PM, you wrote: :-) All we have in TB to parallel this is the Memo. Ctrl-Shift-I. This is good. I wish it were. I never use the preview window; I read mail using the folder view and then hop from message to message. For me, that means that memo's are inaccesible: I can write one but you can't save it. As Marck put it, some time ago [Sept. 27 2000; [Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... once the message is *open*, and there is an associated memo, the memo-autoview window will display it. This is so whether the message is open via the preview window or via folder view. *However*, if I wish to edit a memo or add one to a message, I can only do so if the message is open via the preview window. rant It bugs me that I can do more to messages when they are open via the preview window than when open in folder view. After-all, it's supposed to be just a preview window. From the way it functions, it really aught to be called the main message view window because the message is clearly *opened* when being viewed via the preview window. I can edit memo's only when messages are open via the preview window. The address auto-view is more responsive with the preview window. This goes against what is intuitively expected in the context of what a preview window is supposed to represent metaphorically. /rant - K - -- Maybe Ellen Cherry Charles didn't look like a million dollars, but nobody could deny that she looked like the *tax* on a million dollars. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Keeping messages on the server
On 21-04-2001 at 22:30, Santiago Cimadevilla kindly wrote: I have, then, set The Bat! to 'leave messages on server' and 'keep messages for 1 day'. However, I think I'm doing something wrong here, because the messages are apparently not getting deleted. I made a manual check of the contents of the server, and I see several messages that are 2 days old or more. TB has an oddity about counting days on server. Not only doesn't it count today's messeages (as indeed it shouldn't), it also will only delete a whole day's mail in one go when it is that date's turn. You should rather think of the X days as the amount of days in between today and the oldest not-yet deleted mails. I have set my TB to leave messages on server for two days; thus, I'll not only find all of today's messages on the server (April 22th), but also April 21, April 20 (as is to be expected), but *also* April 19 because that day's cycle has not yet fully passed - but it will, at 00:00 tonight. - K - -- The feeling you had when you first played these old computer games as a ten year old down in the basement during the summer, back in the days that you knew it all and while your friends were hanging around at the pool you'd be saving the galaxy! - Menso on HfH, 1999-10-16 Oh, eh, thanks for saving the galaxy, by the way. You did a great job, Menso.- Marcel on HfH, 1999-10-16 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP advice
On 22-04-2001 at 00:36, Shauna Scott kindly wrote: So, as you can see, instead of doing the work I should be doing, I've downloaded and installed PGP 6.5.8ckt build 05. The next trick is to get it to work with The Bat. If I look under Tools-OpenPGP-Choose OpenPGP Version, the only choices available are Internal and PGP Command Line, neither of which appears to be what I want. Is there something else I have to do to make PGP 6.0.x/6.5.x Plugin available? You have downloaded the TB PGP plugin, I assume? It is available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/download.html You need to unzip the files, and put batpgp60.dll and/or batpgp65.dll in your TB program directory. If you now check Tools -- PGP -- Choose Version, you can tick the PGP 6.0/6.5 option. - K - -- Another complication is that the subconscious mind is always changin'. Like an encyclopaedia that keeps puttin' out a whole new edition every day. - Haruki Murakami: The Hard-Boiled Wonderland -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Wrapping cookies
On 21-04-2001 at 23:22, Sir Jinx! kindly wrote: A Curtis Martin said: ACM The %Wrapped macro is still very useful because it may be used ACM to wrap introductions, cookies and other single paragraphs. Wrapping cookies? This sounds very interesting! How can it be done? %WRAPPED='%COOKIE=C:\directory\TheBat\cookies.txt' Can it be done only with %COOKIES, or can it be done with cookies from text file? See above ;-) Can 'center formating' also be specified? Wrap only wraps long lines, it doesn't justify or center. - K - -- Problems are only opportunities in work clothes. - Henry Kaiser -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Folder question
On 21-04-2001 at 23:12, azrael kindly wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 4:21:18 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: KS Are you referring to your text getting indented more with each new KS paragraph? I suspect it is the smart tabs option or the KS auto-indent option set in the Editor Preferences (under Options). If KS you have any of these switched on, you might just have found the KS solution. Thank you; it was checked. hope to hear confirmation of an improvement. Your last messages have been indent-free indeed ;-) - K - -- Maybe Ellen Cherry Charles didn't look like a million dollars, but nobody could deny that she looked like the *tax* on a million dollars. - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Different fonts for different use
On 22-04-2001 at 02:25, azrael kindly wrote: On Saturday, April 21, 2001, at 8:13:43 PM, Karin Spaink thoughtfully wrote: Try this one: http://www.ibackup.com/L/QMLF?U=alliemC=ALNCQAFO0673121 I just created it. KS Yet, I get the same error message: even after a forced KS reload of the page. Weird. I have the two font zipped file from Allie's link. Norton 2001 was updated just yesterday on this machine and I'd be happy to attach and send you the file. That's very kind, but meanwhile Allie sent me the file himself. As it turns out, the download link would terminate itself after five people had actually downloaded the file. (That gives a whole new meaning to the term killfile ;-)) - K - -- Our society desperately needs monsters to reclaim its own moral virginity. - Sylvère Lotringer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Expanding Threads
On 22-04-2001 at 13:17, Chema Berian kindly wrote: Is there a way to expand completely a thread?? Press + on the numeric pad of your keybord, and the whole thread will open. some threads become ugly in size. If you are reading another thread/folder and a new message in a ugly thread comes, I must expand the thread manually one message each time. You might like the crtl-] combination: once you're in folder view, that keystroke will bring you to the next unread message. Hence, no need to manually find it. - K - -- You know why God is a man? Because if God was a woman she would have made sperm taste like chocolate. - Carrie Snow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Importing Eudora Mail
On 16-05-2001 at 17:12, Gerry Doyon kindly wrote: Hello Marck, GD Can he send me just the Eudora folder files for me to be able to GD import it in to TB!? MDP Since TB wants to point to Eudora, not just the folders, maybe this MDP won't work. That will need an e-Eudora user to answer in more detail. Here's an ex-Eudora user. I imported all my old mail (circa 75.000 messages) into my TB folders. All you need to do is ask your friend to send you the *.mbx file and import it as Unix mailbox. The only problem I have had was with old Eudora mails. Since Eudora didin't put the message-id's into the sent messages, you must *not* kill the duplicates in TB folders that contain old mail sent via Eudora. Ah, and on occasion dates wouold not import correctly. - K - -- I actually don't think I'm the first ever transsexual member of parliament in the world. Margaret Thatcher beat me to it by a number of years. - New Zealand MP Georgina Beyer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Hard reset needed - TB crashes 1.52f
On 18-05-2001 at 01:02, Mark G. kindly wrote: I had the Bat v1.52f (business user licence) lock up my system completely three times today. My system is a Dell WinNT 4.0 Server SP6a running IIS 4.0 fully patched and Cold Fusion App. server 4.51. The lock up required a hard reset - CTRL-ALT-DEL (the three finger salute) didn't work and the mouse was frozen. (..) Anyone else had problems like this? Nope, not this. But TB 1.52 has crashed a few times upon closing down (access violation bla-di-bla), which is a novelty. - K - -- Capricorns don't believe in astrology. - Daniel Richler: Kicking Tomorrow -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: When Did This Start?
On 21-05-2001 at 21:41, Nick Andriash kindly wrote: All of a sudden I now see that TB! amends any line starting with from by putting a in front of it. I've never noticed that before, and so now I have to use the dash-escape feature of both PGP and GPG to dash-escape that line. This is what I mean: From here on in... This line should have in front of it now. It doesn't ;-) me tries From here on in... Nope, I can type it fine without TB's editor kicking in and putting quote characters in from^Hnt. - K - -- Our society desperately needs monsters to reclaim its own moral virginity. - Sylvère Lotringer -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: When Did This Start?
On 21-05-2001 at 22:03, Jason Ellis kindly wrote: Hello Karin, me tries From here on in... Nope, I can type it fine without TB's editor kicking in and putting quote characters in from^Hnt. But actually, it is doing it. When I tested, the editor did not kick in - it never actually showed up in my editor screen. But once I sent the message, *then* it had it (and in fact so does yours). Nope, not in mine. Neither in my Outbox, my Sent box *nor* on TB as I received it. I checked. And double-checked. This is weird. Couldf it be that TB 1.51 *sees* it differently? [I use TB 1.52] - K - -- I lost my temper but I found it and nailed it down real hard so it won't get lost anymore. - Kari Jacobi on TBUDL, Dec 11 2000 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:
On 24-05-2001 at 08:47, Ottar Grimstad kindly wrote: In Norway Microsoft in their wisdom (not) and disrespect for standards, prefaces answers with SV: instead of Re: in their mail products. This messes up the threading in a Norwegian mailing list I participate in. Have you tried arranging threads by reference? If you do, changing the subject won't matter and messages will still thread properly. (See View -- Sort by -- Reference) - K - -- The person you want to kill? Oops. I knew TheBat! v2 will be able to make coffee, but shouldn't there be a limit to what an email client can do? - Thomas, on TheBat!'s users mailing list -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: X-MDaemon-Deliver-To
On 25-05-2001 at 14:04, John Phillips kindly wrote: Doe this mean that our good friends in Indonesia are using MDaemon to resend the mail handle the mailing list? You'd think so: Received: from mailin9.bigpond.com by dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.1.R) - K - -- Hier gibt es keine harmlosen Worte alle viel zu gross - Einstürzende Neubauten: Die Interimsliebenden -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: mailto: magic
On 27-05-2001 at 15:29, Maurice Snellen kindly wrote: I saw some mails on how to automatically get text into the body of the message using the mailto: URL; is it also possible to add custom headers to a message this way? Yes: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=X%20Ybody=Z will create a mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: X Y and in the body: Z Don't use spaces, use %20 instead. - K - -- Assumption is the mother of all fuckups. - Menso Heus, 28-03-2001 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: mailto: magic
On 27-05-2001 at 16:09, Charlie (ceejay) kindly wrote: Hi Karin, KS mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=X%20Ybody=Z KS will create a mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] KS with the subject: X Y KS and in the body: Z KS Don't use spaces, use %20 instead. Not good advice Karin, read: http://www.vortex-webdesign.com/help/faq.htm#mailtosubject If the W3 validator doesn't complain, I feel free to use it. I think you're being over-cautious. - K - -- You've got a gift. It's not a gift. It's just a brain. - The Cube, 1997 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: hot button suggestion
On 28-05-2001 at 09:36, Dwight A Corrin kindly wrote: On Monday, May 28, 2001, 2:13:38 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote: What about automatic purge+compress at shut down? I haven't found it. Look under Folder - Properties. - K - -- I do not fear computers. I fear lack of them. - Isaac Asimov -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: mailto: magic
On 29-05-2001 at 00:29, Maurice Snellen kindly wrote: Sunday, May 27, 2001, 3:51:43 PM, Karin wrote: I saw some mails on how to automatically get text into the body of the message using the mailto: URL; is it also possible to add custom headers to a message this way? KS mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=X%20Ybody=Z OK, I was already aware of the 'subject' trick. Before this goes further astray into a discussion on whether or not to use this method for mailto: links at all, I'd like to point out that this will probably need to be used in a website where I have no access to cgi whatsoever so the whole issue of using forms is out of the question The mailto trick works in html as well. You can see it in action on one of my pages, http://www.spaink.net/subscribe.html . What I want to get back to, is my original question because what I'm trying to do, is to add headers such as X-www-page: main menu and X-www-page: my cv so that I can tell from the headers of the message wich page it was that someone clicked the mailto-link on. You cannot add headers to *somebody else's* mail. All you can do is add a small abbreviation in the subject or body of the mail that you prepare in the html code, such as a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=BlahBody=pagename;here/a where you change the page name as you deem appropriate. - K - -- When I get my hands on some money, I'll kiss it's green skin And I'll ask it's dirty face: where the hell have you been? - Swans: Failure -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: (No Subject)
On 30-05-2001 at 02:01, Brian Clark kindly wrote: @ 6:11:59 PM on 5/29/2001, Peter Palmreuther wrote: --(snip)-- PP %QUOTE=SIMPLY NOTHING PP *G* ... who would have thought THIS? *grin* I know, same here. Personally, I wouldn't do it that way though. If I *HAD* to do it, I'd use letters and punctuation. Also, (No Subject) doesn't give us any indication of what the topic might be. The appropriate thing to do in this case would have been to simply leave the subject blank. I beg to differ. Because the moment there would be a follow-up - as we see right now - the blank subject line wouldn't cover the content of the tread any more, while now it does. No, really, all in all the original poster dis a fine job. - K - -- What if the Christ and the Messiah come, and they're two different guys? Would they debate on television? Would they lead their faithful off two different rewards, separate, restricted heavens? - Tom Robbins: Skinny Legs and All -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Is there any handy list with the description of thebat's icons (e.g. half red envelope, staple, etc.) ?
On 30-03-2000 at 17:28, Sergey kindly wrote: Subj ? Red envelope means: urgent. If yoiu want to set priority for a message, click on the little green icon in the status bar of your message (at the bottom of the message that you're creating). Btw, your computer clock is 14 months behind The date says: 3 March 2000. - K - -- If God had not given freedom of speech to the snake, then none of us would be here today. Perhaps the followers of God should remember this when they criticize the followers of the snake for speaking their minds, and vice versa. - Zenon Panoussis -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Headers in 1.53bis
This may have been discussed here - I'm not reading the list too well, due to the fact that I'm in the midst of writing a book - so I apologise if I repeat somebody. With version 1.53bis, I have quite a hassle if I want to change a subject or addressee that I typed in. When I go back into the field, it simply will *not* allow editing: you can't move the cursor to the begining of the field, nor higlight a word or an address. The only way to re-allow editing is by pressing the down icon at the right, showing the list of previous addressees or Subjects, and *then* I can edit. Very annoying... - K - -- Not many people have taught me something. - Zenon, praising Karin -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Headers in 1.53bis
On 16-06-2001 at 21:51, Peter Palmreuther kindly wrote: Hello Karin, KS With version 1.53bis, I have quite a hassle if I want to KS change a subject or addressee that I typed in. When I go KS back into the field, it simply will *not* allow editing: you KS can't move the cursor to the begining of the field, nor KS higlight a word or an address. As you may can see, I've changed the username part in the To-Address and I've done it without any hassle. Clicked into the field, changed it, got it. What about when you write a new mail? Something similar? Same thing. Whether it's new mail or old, forwarded or original, I invariably have this problem. And it's independant of the folder that I am in, which rules out templates and AB-entries. One silly question: are you sure you clicked THE FIELD and not it's description on the left? Yes, quite sure ;-) - K - -- [She was] a beautiful neurotic who clung to her beauty as if it were a chance piece of debris keeping her afloat on a violent sea. - Mary Gaitskill: Two Girls, Fat and Thin -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Headers in 1.53bis
On 16-06-2001 at 21:51, Dierk Haasis kindly wrote: Not confirmed. Do you by any chance use the newer bis version (from Thursday)? I use the June 14 version. - K - -- I let Jesus in to my heart. Now I've locked him in there and won't let him out until you accept my list of demands... - Loz, on alt.suicide.holiday, May 8 2001 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Headers in 1.53bis
On 16-06-2001 at 22:10, Rainer Bauer kindly wrote: Karin, KS With version 1.53bis, I have quite a hassle if I want to KS change a subject or addressee that I typed in. When I go KS back into the field, it simply will *not* allow editing: you KS can't move the cursor to the begining of the field, nor KS higlight a word or an address. Have you tried to move the cursor (left/right key) after you activated the filed. I have the same behaviour here. But after the cursor movement, the normal editing commands work again. The hassle is that I cannot get my cursor there. When I click the field, it remains grey and the cursor remains in the body, no matter how often I click. And then suddenly - often only after pressing the little arrow-down icon on the far right and escaping - it finally works, and once it has worked in one field, it works again in *all* fields. *puzzled* - K - -- Horror film characters are forever watching horror movies, either in theatres or on television at home, and not a few horror plots turn on the horrifying consequences of looking at horror. - Carol Clover: Men, women and chainsaws -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Headers in 1.53bis
On 16-06-2001 at 23:04, Peter Palmreuther kindly wrote: Hello Karin, KS The hassle is that I cannot get my cursor there. When I KS click the field, it remains grey and the cursor remains in KS the body, no matter how often I click. And then suddenly - KS often only after pressing the little arrow-down icon on the KS far right and escaping - it finally works, and once it has KS worked in one field, it works again in *all* fields. *hmmm* sounds like a OS related problem. Perhaps, but the problem only introduced itself with the new version of TB. I'd be prone to consider that to be the culprit. Can you specify your OS as exact as possible so other with similar specifications can try to reproduce? WinNT sp 6a, 600 Mhz, 128Mb memory. - K - -- I hope there is a god. If there is, when I die, I'm going to try to kill him. - Aaron on alt.suicide.holiday, May 20 2001 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: What I am waiting for from TheBat! ... Soft Returns in the Editor
On 17-06-2001 at 02:44, A Curtis Martin kindly wrote: I use TB!'s editor with Forte' Agent, and also use it for some other editing tasks. Huh? How do you do this? Not by coping text from Agent to TB, replying to it and then copying it back, I presume? If you have figured out another way, please let me now. Although I throroughly disliked TB's editor to begin with, I now find myself yearning for it while replying to Usenet posting. I keep wanting to do Alt-L. Actually, I often give the keystroke and then remember with disappointment that it doesn't work in Agent... - K - -- Nothing is sacred about feeling miserable. - Doug W on alt.suicide.holiday, May 11 2001 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Unnerving sigs
This has been bothering me for quite some time: I have taken the time and effort to build quite a large collection of quotes that I like and love, and most of the short ones have by now found their way into my cookie file, and are thus randomly appended under my mail. Randomly? Really? All too often I wonder. All too often I giggle because the - randomly appended - sig matches the subject matter all too closely, sometimes even too the point that I'd rather manually select another sig in order to escape possible accusations that I was adding insult to injury / was giving a bland summary / etc. I *do* understand that I select my sigs myself, and that thus they will reflect upon me. But I do wonder about coincidence. How often does it happen that somebody mails you out of the blue about suicide, you respond, and TB happens to select a sig that relates to suicide? In my case, that happens two out of three times. Really, it is unnerving. I have a collection of 100+ cookies and TB selects an appropriate one more often than is called for. I'm starting to suspect some kind of NSA paradigm at the heart of TB, or telepathy, or whatever. Anyway, I *am* unnerved. And of course, *this* time TB chose an innocent one just to disprove me. I am freaking out. - K - -- Biographies rely on butch criteria: a life is plotted according to the markers of death, marriage, professional appointment, murder and military campaigns. - Alain de Botton: Kiss Tell -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
