Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion]

[Don Arburn via Texascavers]

Ha! Not sure how that happened! But the FIFTEENTH is the actual end, but 
there's no reason one can't just keep celebrating...


--Don

> On Sep 11, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Allan Cobb via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, TCR is now a week long event?
> 
>> On 9/11/2017 1:02 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote:
>> Paradise Canyons gates open after noon this October 12 to the 19th
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion]

[Allan Cobb via Texascavers]

So, TCR is now a week long event?


On 9/11/2017 1:02 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote:

Paradise Canyons gates open after noon this October 12 to the *19th*


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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers]

Ping me in October.  Major flux right now but cooking for my caver fam sounds 
like just the tonic. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> At the rate folks are volunteering, we may have to institute that old British 
> tradition of naval Press Gangs, Stef, we can walk through the campgrounds and 
> any loafers we can simply whack on the head, cuff and put into service. 
> 
> --TCR
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am hoping the Aggies will do their usual and help with serving the 
>> Saturday dinner?!
>> 
>> However, can they let me know a bit (more) in advance if they are intending 
>> to do this? We need to "train" you on the dishes and serving them a few 
>> hours before the meal, thanks!!
>> 
>> Stefan Creaser
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Stefan Creaser via Texascavers]

I'm up for that, by 4pm on the Saturday I'm usually in that sort of mood/mode...

Stefan

-Original Message-
From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Don 
Arburn via Texascavers
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 5:17 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

At the rate folks are volunteering, we may have to institute that old British 
tradition of naval Press Gangs, Stef, we can walk through the campgrounds and 
any loafers we can simply whack on the head, cuff and put into service.

--TCR

> On Aug 23, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
>
> I am hoping the Aggies will do their usual and help with serving the Saturday 
> dinner?!
>
> However, can they let me know a bit (more) in advance if they are intending 
> to do this? We need to "train" you on the dishes and serving them a few hours 
> before the meal, thanks!!
>
> Stefan Creaser

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Don Arburn via Texascavers]

At the rate folks are volunteering, we may have to institute that old British 
tradition of naval Press Gangs, Stef, we can walk through the campgrounds and 
any loafers we can simply whack on the head, cuff and put into service. 

--TCR

> On Aug 23, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am hoping the Aggies will do their usual and help with serving the Saturday 
> dinner?!
> 
> However, can they let me know a bit (more) in advance if they are intending 
> to do this? We need to "train" you on the dishes and serving them a few hours 
> before the meal, thanks!!
> 
> Stefan Creaser
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Stefan Creaser via Texascavers]

I am hoping the Aggies will do their usual and help with serving the Saturday 
dinner?!

However, can they let me know a bit (more) in advance if they are intending to 
do this? We need to "train" you on the dishes and serving them a few hours 
before the meal, thanks!!

Stefan Creaser
Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM
5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA.
Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012.
Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser


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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 5:01 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

I can help with TP Patrol on Saturday, and with serving the evening meal on 
Saturday (if that’s needed).

I can’t guarantee I’ll be there until late on Friday night, and I have to leave 
very early on Sunday morning.

Diana

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> On Aug 23, 2016, at 4:48 PM, TSA Cavers List  
> wrote:
>
> 51 Days Left!!
>
> Bring this up at your grotto meetings!!
>
> TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:
>
> •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!)
>
> •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.
>
> •Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes!
>
> •TP Patrol, an easy job of keeping tabs on the bathrooms and toilet paper.
>
> •Registration Nation: Kris, Lizette, Jake (need a couple more)
>
> •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!?
>
> •Ropes Popes, rope climbing organizers and belayers
>
> •Survey Squad, organizers
>
> •SpeleOlympic Wranglers, organizers
>
> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers
>
> •Recyclers are Stefan & Dale! (These guys are badass!)
>
> •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together.
>
> •Mud wrestler pit builders Galen (a couple more helpers & a referee)
>
> •Someone to make some awards!
>
> •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me
>
> PLEASE? Bring this up at your grotto meetings!! These are short term fairly 
> easy things, they aren't going to take up much time and EVERYONE will be 
> grateful.
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Diana Tomchick via Texascavers]

I can help with TP Patrol on Saturday, and with serving the evening meal on 
Saturday (if that’s needed).

I can’t guarantee I’ll be there until late on Friday night, and I have to leave 
very early on Sunday morning.

Diana

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Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214A
Dallas, TX 75390-8816
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> On Aug 23, 2016, at 4:48 PM, TSA Cavers List  
> wrote:
>
> 51 Days Left!!
>
> Bring this up at your grotto meetings!!
>
> TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:
>
> •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!)
>
> •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.
>
> •Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes!
>
> •TP Patrol, an easy job of keeping tabs on the bathrooms and toilet paper.
>
> •Registration Nation: Kris, Lizette, Jake (need a couple more)
>
> •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!?
>
> •Ropes Popes, rope climbing organizers and belayers
>
> •Survey Squad, organizers
>
> •SpeleOlympic Wranglers, organizers
>
> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers
>
> •Recyclers are Stefan & Dale! (These guys are badass!)
>
> •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together.
>
> •Mud wrestler pit builders Galen (a couple more helpers & a referee)
>
> •Someone to make some awards!
>
> •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me
>
> PLEASE? Bring this up at your grotto meetings!! These are short term fairly 
> easy things, they aren't going to take up much time and EVERYONE will be 
> grateful.
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Bill Bentley via Texascavers]

•TP Patrol, an easy job of keeping tabs on the bathrooms and toilet paper.

Put me down for this, it's a shitty job, but I am qualified and been spreading 
it around for years, so maybe time to clean it up!
LOL

Bill


On 8/23/2016 4:48 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote:

51 Days Left!!

Bring this up at your grotto meetings!!

TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:

•Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!)

•Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.

•Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes!

•TP Patrol, an easy job of keeping tabs on the bathrooms and toilet paper.

•Registration Nation: Kris, Lizette, Jake (need a couple more)

•Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!?

•Ropes Popes, rope climbing organizers and belayers

•Survey Squad, organizers

•SpeleOlympic Wranglers, organizers

•Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers

•Recyclers are Stefan & Dale! (These guys are badass!)

•Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together.

•Mud wrestler pit builders Galen (a couple more helpers & a referee)

•Someone to make some awards!

•Minion(s) enthusiast to help me

PLEASE? Bring this up at your grotto meetings!! These are short term fairly 
easy things, they aren't going to take up much time and EVERYONE will be 
grateful.
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Stefan Creaser via Texascavers]

I’d prefer sheep, so we can cook them if they don’t perform ;-)

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Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012.
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From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Don 
Arburn via Texascavers
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 4:57 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

I don't care, whoever!

Just step up!

On Aug 23, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:

On Aug 23, 2016, at 16:48, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:


51 Days Left!!

Bring this up at your grotto meetings!!

TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:

•Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!)

•Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.

•Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes!

••isn’t it time for Wolves to do the job???  Gender equality, please . . .




Katherine Arens
Office Phone: (512) 232-6363
ar...@austin.utexas.edu<mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu>
Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic Studies
FAX (512) 471-4025
2505 University Ave, C3300
Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
University of Texas at Austin
Office:  Burdine 320
Austin, TX  78712-1802

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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Don Arburn via Texascavers]

I don't care, whoever!

Just step up!

> On Aug 23, 2016, at 4:55 PM, Katherine Arens via Texascavers 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2016, at 16:48, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 51 Days Left!!
>> 
>> Bring this up at your grotto meetings!! 
>> 
>> TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:
>> 
>> •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!)
>> 
>> •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.
>> 
>> •Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes!
> 
> ••isn’t it time for Wolves to do the job???  Gender equality, please . . . 
> 
> 
> Katherine Arens
> Office Phone: (512) 232-6363
> ar...@austin.utexas.edu
> Dept. Phone:  (512) 471-4123
> Dept. of Germanic Studies
> FAX (512) 471-4025
> 2505 University Ave, C3300 
> Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
> University of Texas at Austin
> Office:  Burdine 320
> Austin, TX  78712-1802
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]

[Katherine Arens via Texascavers]

On Aug 23, 2016, at 16:48, Don Arburn via Texascavers 
mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote:

51 Days Left!!

Bring this up at your grotto meetings!!

TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers:

•Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!)

•Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me.

•Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes!

••isn’t it time for Wolves to do the job???  Gender equality, please . . .



Katherine Arens Office Phone: (512) 232-6363
ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept. Phone:  (512) 
471-4123
Dept. of Germanic Studies FAX (512) 471-4025
2505 University Ave, C3300  Bldg.Location:  Burdine 336
University of Texas at Austin Office:  Burdine 320
Austin, TX  78712-1802

  -. .-
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 ./'. '||\\.(\_/) .//||` .`\.
  ./'.|'.'\\|..)O O(..|//`.`|.`\.
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  ./'.||'. .  .  .`||.`\.
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'.|||'.||| {   } |||.`|||.`
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2016]

[Charles Loving via Texascavers]

Que Bueno. The Spring rains have really made the chigger population here in
Deer Corn active and there are monster ticks roaming the bushes once again.
Of course it hasn't rained very much like it has in the east. And my trips
to the west find that the Big Bend is still dry as a bone.

On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> It's official, Texas Cavers Reunion has its venue. The water is once again
> flowing over the lower retention dam into Paradise Canyon park, and
> hopefully will continue to do so through October 13 to October 16, 2016.
> The corn is tall there outside of Castroville on the flowing Medina River,
> actually the water is currently OVER the retaining walls in Paradise Canyon
> park. There is now a playground and a beautiful new restroom and shower
> facility.
>
> There is a theme for our doo-dah parade too. Several good ideas were put
> forth and in the end I required a secret vote from my consultants which
> ended in a three way tie requiring me to bring in my heavy hitter tie
> breaker:
> Magical Forest Creatures!
> The rains have made the woods and countryside very very happy and green
> and the magic is strong now. The gnomes, fairies, trolls and Hodags are
> proliferating and putting on their summer coats of algae and mosses and
> lichens. The unicorns, Pegasus and griffons were out grazing along the
> green riverfront under the sycamores and cypress today. I think I even saw
> a wampus cat frolicking with a zoat. Certainly Bigfoot lurks, and I swear I
> smelled a skunk-ape.
>
> More information to come, stay tuned
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2015]

[Michael Harris via Texascavers]

You said clowns twicenow I'm scared.



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 Original message 
From: Don Arburn via Texascavers 
Date: 07/22/2015 21:42 (GMT-06:00)
To: TSA Cavers List 
Subject: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2015]

Only 85 days left until the 2015 Texas Cavers Reunion at Paradise Canyon below 
Medina Lake!

The event begins when I open the park around noon on Thursday, October 15. 
Currently there is good water flow at Paradise Canyon and Red has made many 
improvements to it and it looks really nice. There should be more portapotties 
and ice to sell. Along with the usual activities of swimming, relaxing and 
socializing there will be vendors, CaveSim, rope climbing, mud wrestling, 
surveying, Speleolympics, door prizes, live music, parading, clowns, flirting, 
camping, wine tasting, giggling, slide shows, food, hot tubbing, hammocking, 
tubing, fishing, costumes, late nights, early meetings, memberships, 
fellowships, napping, cooking, smiling, beverages, clowns, books, stories, 
nudity, lies, Aggies, sashaying, laughing, stumbling, beer, hugs, handshakes, 
guffaws, breakfast tacos, kissing, well behaved dogs, stupid grins (ok, that's 
just me), pointing, registering, planning, discussing, reminiscing, sauna-ing, 
friends, photographing, Cavers, dishwashing and hopefully showering.

Like usual, well behaved pets & children are welcome, PLEASE be sure to pick up 
after them. Fighting dogs or people and thieves will be dealt with harshly, for 
our amusement, then banished.

Traditionally the south end of the campground is the quiet end and the dam nude 
end is a tad louder. Sadly, the rule still stands about percussion musical 
instruments at the hot tub end. The "Doo-Dah" parade has a Circus theme this 
year, and naturally there will be prizes for the favorite costume!

Bring your favorite camp chairs, hammocks, inner tubes, kayaks, bicycles, 
bedding, tents, refreshments, snacks, cold beverages, climbing gear and survey 
instruments. Don't forget, bring a good attitude and a smile! See you there!

--Ringmaster Don
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Fritz Holt]

Stefan, Jim,
Sounds like a plan. Organize the work group, plan a convenient date for all and 
let me know. 
Fritz
713-818-2496

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Stefan Creaser  wrote:

> I have trailer and tow vehicle; trailer can be available for TCR but the tow 
> vehicle will be otherwise occupied.
> 
> I'll help split wood too, as much as knackered shoulder will allow :-(
> 
> -Stefan
> 
> From: Jim Kennedy [cavercr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 26 August 2013 10:30
> To: Fritz Holt
> Cc: Oztotl; June Levy; Mandy holt; Jenny Holt; Cavers Texas
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]
> 
> I'll volunteer to go out and help split one day, but I have no means to haul.
> 
> Jim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:
> 
>> Don and others,
>> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
>> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which 
>> are cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired 
>> thickness to be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good 
>> wheeled gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come 
>> here during the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two 
>> or more work best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are 
>> available for those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I 
>> will furnish the beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule.
>> Fritz
>> 713-818-2496
>> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>>> natures.
>>> 
>>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon 
>>> is ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new 
>>> improved grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, 
>>> soaking, wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, 
>>> meetings, books, venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social 
>>> agenda). Cooking, cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned 
>>> jaw-jacking, what's better than that?
>>> 
>>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>>> 
>>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>>> 
>>> P.S.
>>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Fritz Holt]

Stefan, Jim,
Sounds like a plan. Organize the work group, plan a convenient date for all and 
let me know. 
Fritz
713-818-2496

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Stefan Creaser  wrote:

> I have trailer and tow vehicle; trailer can be available for TCR but the tow 
> vehicle will be otherwise occupied.
> 
> I'll help split wood too, as much as knackered shoulder will allow :-(
> 
> -Stefan
> 
> From: Jim Kennedy [cavercr...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 26 August 2013 10:30
> To: Fritz Holt
> Cc: Oztotl; June Levy; Mandy holt; Jenny Holt; Cavers Texas
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]
> 
> I'll volunteer to go out and help split one day, but I have no means to haul.
> 
> Jim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:
> 
>> Don and others,
>> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
>> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which 
>> are cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired 
>> thickness to be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good 
>> wheeled gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come 
>> here during the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two 
>> or more work best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are 
>> available for those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I 
>> will furnish the beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule.
>> Fritz
>> 713-818-2496
>> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>>> natures.
>>> 
>>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon 
>>> is ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new 
>>> improved grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, 
>>> soaking, wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, 
>>> meetings, books, venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social 
>>> agenda). Cooking, cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned 
>>> jaw-jacking, what's better than that?
>>> 
>>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>>> 
>>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>>> 
>>> P.S.
>>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>>> 
>>> Sent cellularly.
>>> -d...@oztotl.com
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Sheryl Rieck]

You should definitely go for that! Our wood is still in tree form and the only 
splitter we have is just hard work and a good aim. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:

> Don and others,
> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
> cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
> be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
> gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
> the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
> best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
> those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
> beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
> Fritz
> 713-818-2496
> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>> natures.
>> 
>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
>> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
>> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
>> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
>> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
>> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
>> better than that?
>> 
>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>> 
>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>> 
>> P.S.
>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Sheryl Rieck]

You should definitely go for that! Our wood is still in tree form and the only 
splitter we have is just hard work and a good aim. 

Sheryl

Sent from my iPhone. 

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:

> Don and others,
> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
> cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
> be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
> gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
> the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
> best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
> those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
> beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
> Fritz
> 713-818-2496
> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>> natures.
>> 
>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
>> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
>> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
>> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
>> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
>> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
>> better than that?
>> 
>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>> 
>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>> 
>> P.S.
>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -d...@oztotl.com
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RE: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Stefan Creaser]

I have trailer and tow vehicle; trailer can be available for TCR but the tow 
vehicle will be otherwise occupied.

I'll help split wood too, as much as knackered shoulder will allow :-(

-Stefan

From: Jim Kennedy [cavercr...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 August 2013 10:30
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: Oztotl; June Levy; Mandy holt; Jenny Holt; Cavers Texas
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

I'll volunteer to go out and help split one day, but I have no means to haul.

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:

> Don and others,
> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
> cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
> be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
> gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
> the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
> best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
> those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
> beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule.
> Fritz
> 713-818-2496
> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
>
>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>> natures.
>>
>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
>> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
>> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
>> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
>> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
>> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
>> better than that?
>>
>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>>
>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>>
>> P.S.
>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>>
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -d...@oztotl.com
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RE: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Stefan Creaser]

I have trailer and tow vehicle; trailer can be available for TCR but the tow 
vehicle will be otherwise occupied.

I'll help split wood too, as much as knackered shoulder will allow :-(

-Stefan

From: Jim Kennedy [cavercr...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 August 2013 10:30
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: Oztotl; June Levy; Mandy holt; Jenny Holt; Cavers Texas
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

I'll volunteer to go out and help split one day, but I have no means to haul.

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:

> Don and others,
> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
> cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
> be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
> gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
> the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
> best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
> those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
> beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule.
> Fritz
> 713-818-2496
> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
>
>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>> natures.
>>
>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
>> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
>> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
>> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
>> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
>> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
>> better than that?
>>
>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>>
>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>>
>> P.S.
>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>>
>> Sent cellularly.
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Jim Kennedy]

I'll volunteer to go out and help split one day, but I have no means to haul. 

Jim

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On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:

> Don and others,
> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
> cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
> be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
> gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
> the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
> best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
> those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
> beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
> Fritz
> 713-818-2496
> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>> natures.
>> 
>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
>> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
>> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
>> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
>> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
>> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
>> better than that?
>> 
>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>> 
>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>> 
>> P.S.
>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Jim Kennedy]

I'll volunteer to go out and help split one day, but I have no means to haul. 

Jim

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On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Fritz Holt  wrote:

> Don and others,
> My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
> Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
> cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
> be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled 
> gasoline log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during 
> the week or weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work 
> best on the splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for 
> those interested in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the 
> beer and soft drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
> Fritz
> 713-818-2496
> 12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
>> natures.
>> 
>> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
>> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
>> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
>> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
>> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
>> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's 
>> better than that?
>> 
>> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
>> 
>> Questions? Shoot me an email.
>> 
>> P.S.
>> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
>> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
>> 
>> Sent cellularly.
>> -d...@oztotl.com
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Fritz Holt]

Don and others,
My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled gasoline 
log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during the week or 
weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work best on the 
splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for those interested 
in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the beer and soft 
drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
Fritz
713-818-2496
12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620

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On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
> natures.
> 
> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's better 
> than that?
> 
> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
> 
> Questions? Shoot me an email.
> 
> P.S.
> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 36]

[Fritz Holt]

Don and others,
My home is five miles north of Dripping Springs or thirty miles from the 
Capitol Building. I have several hundred dry oak and cedar elm logs which are 
cut to fireplace size. They need only to be split to the desired thickness to 
be the best firewood that money can't buy. I have a very good wheeled gasoline 
log splitter. All that is needed are volunteers to come here during the week or 
weekend to split all that is needed or wanted. Two or more work best on the 
splitter. One or two full size pickup loads are available for those interested 
in a get together to do the splitting and I will furnish the beer and soft 
drinks. Call or text to schedule. 
Fritz
713-818-2496
12737 Silver Creek Rd., Dripping Springs, 78620

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On Aug 25, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Oztotl  wrote:

> Greetings Hodags, troglidites, cavemen, cave women, speleophiles of all 
> natures.
> 
> The 36th Annual Texas Caver's Reunion is around the bend. Paradise Canyon is 
> ours from Thursday, October 17th through the 20th. The park has new improved 
> grassy camping areas! Speleolympics, surveying, climbing, eating, soaking, 
> wrestling, ice, kegs, parading T-shirts, music, sauna, tub, meetings, books, 
> venders, costumes and prizes! BYOSA (bring your own social agenda). Cooking, 
> cabins, camping, water sports & good ol' fashioned jaw-jacking, what's better 
> than that?
> 
> Spread the word to your CAVER friends/support/family/pets.
> 
> Questions? Shoot me an email.
> 
> P.S.
> TCR needs firewood, if you can help please contact me.
> This is your shindig, if you want to help in any way, just ask!
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Lyndon Tiu]

Frank,

Nowhere does it say there is a limit to the # of people that you can
put in the cabin ... the more cavers you can put in one cabin, the
less $$$ per person ;)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney  wrote:
> Thanks for organizing this Don!
> Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
> Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
> accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
> Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
> have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
> amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
> Frank
>
>
> On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:
>
>> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
>> Reunion 2012!!
>>
>> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
>>
>> Paradise Canyon is the place.
>>
>> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
>> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
>> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
>> additional
>> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
>> a
>> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
>> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
>> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
>> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
>> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
>>
>> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Lyndon Tiu]

Frank,

Nowhere does it say there is a limit to the # of people that you can
put in the cabin ... the more cavers you can put in one cabin, the
less $$$ per person ;)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney  wrote:
> Thanks for organizing this Don!
> Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
> Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
> accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
> Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
> have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
> amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
> Frank
>
>
> On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:
>
>> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
>> Reunion 2012!!
>>
>> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
>>
>> Paradise Canyon is the place.
>>
>> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
>> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
>> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
>> additional
>> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
>> a
>> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
>> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
>> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
>> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
>> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
>>
>> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Lyndon Tiu]

Frank,

Nowhere does it say there is a limit to the # of people that you can
put in the cabin ... the more cavers you can put in one cabin, the
less $$$ per person ;)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney  wrote:
> Thanks for organizing this Don!
> Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
> Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
> accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
> Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
> have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
> amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
> Frank
>
>
> On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:
>
>> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
>> Reunion 2012!!
>>
>> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
>>
>> Paradise Canyon is the place.
>>
>> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
>> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
>> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
>> additional
>> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
>> a
>> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
>> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
>> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
>> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
>> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
>>
>> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Don Cooper]

Praise Bob!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney  wrote:
> Thanks for organizing this Don!
> Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
> Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
> accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
> Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
> have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
> amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
> Frank
>
>
> On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:
>
>> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
>> Reunion 2012!!
>>
>> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
>>
>> Paradise Canyon is the place.
>>
>> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
>> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
>> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
>> additional
>> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
>> a
>> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
>> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
>> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
>> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
>> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
>>
>> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Don Cooper]

Praise Bob!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney  wrote:
> Thanks for organizing this Don!
> Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
> Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
> accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
> Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
> have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
> amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
> Frank
>
>
> On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:
>
>> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
>> Reunion 2012!!
>>
>> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
>>
>> Paradise Canyon is the place.
>>
>> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
>> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
>> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
>> additional
>> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
>> a
>> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
>> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
>> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
>> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
>> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
>>
>> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Don Cooper]

Praise Bob!

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Frank Binney  wrote:
> Thanks for organizing this Don!
> Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
> Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
> accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
> Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
> have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
> amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
> Frank
>
>
> On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:
>
>> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
>> Reunion 2012!!
>>
>> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
>>
>> Paradise Canyon is the place.
>>
>> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
>> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
>> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
>> additional
>> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and 
>> a
>> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
>> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
>> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
>> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
>> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
>>
>> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
>>
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Frank Binney]

Thanks for organizing this Don!
Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
Frank


On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:

> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
> Reunion 2012!!
> 
> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
> 
> Paradise Canyon is the place.
> 
> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional
> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a
> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
> 
> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Frank Binney]

Thanks for organizing this Don!
Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
Frank


On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:

> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
> Reunion 2012!!
> 
> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
> 
> Paradise Canyon is the place.
> 
> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional
> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a
> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
> 
> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Frank Binney]

Thanks for organizing this Don!
Great news about the air-conditioned cabins being available at Paradise
Canyon, which might persuade my non-caving and non-camping girlfriend to
accompany me this year. However, I see the price for cabins on the Paradise
Canyon website is $155 a night with a two night minimum, plus tax, and you
have to bring your own sheets, pillows and towels. Back in the day, that
amount of money would have covered a month of caving in Mexico.
Frank


On 6/1/12 1:23 PM, "Arburn Don"  wrote:

> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers
> Reunion 2012!!
> 
> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
> 
> Paradise Canyon is the place.
> 
> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and
> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the
> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be additional
> bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and get A/C and a
> bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the Medina River.
> The park has improved many of the banks along the river and added more picnic
> tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our Speleolympics, Hot Tub,
> Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of course - The Parade!  This
> year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
> 
> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
> 
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[Amanda Scott]

Thanks Don!   Sounds awesome.  : )

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Arburn Don  wrote:

> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
> Reunion 2012!!
> 
> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
> 
> Paradise Canyon is the place.
> 
> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and 
> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the 
> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
> additional bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and 
> get A/C and a bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the 
> Medina River. The park has improved many of the banks along the river and 
> added more picnic tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our 
> Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of 
> course - The Parade!  This year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
> 
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> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Amanda Scott]

Thanks Don!   Sounds awesome.  : )

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Arburn Don  wrote:

> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
> Reunion 2012!!
> 
> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
> 
> Paradise Canyon is the place.
> 
> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and 
> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the 
> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
> additional bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and 
> get A/C and a bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the 
> Medina River. The park has improved many of the banks along the river and 
> added more picnic tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our 
> Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of 
> course - The Parade!  This year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
> 
> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2012]

[Amanda Scott]

Thanks Don!   Sounds awesome.  : )

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Arburn Don  wrote:

> O.K. Texas Cavers, this is it, the official announcement for Texas Cavers 
> Reunion 2012!!
> 
> October 18, 19, 20 & 21, 2012 is the date.
> 
> Paradise Canyon is the place.
> 
> For those who know, it's a great place in south Texas for car camping and 
> caver camaraderie. The park has grown in size since our last TCR there, the 
> camping extends all the way to the downstream bridge. There will be 
> additional bathrooms and cabin facilities for those who want to splurge and 
> get A/C and a bed. The rest of us will have very nice campsites down by the 
> Medina River. The park has improved many of the banks along the river and 
> added more picnic tables. Paradise Canyon is a wonderful place for our 
> Speleolympics, Hot Tub, Big Feed, Swimming, Awards, carousing, fun and of 
> course - The Parade!  This year's theme:  2012; Mayan Apocalypse!
> 
> Prices, Menu, Facebook and other specifics will be forthcoming.
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Stefan Creaser]

Yes. And don't let them get in the kitchen else they'll become dinner.

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On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:37 PM, "Linda Palit" 
mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb 
<a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
for the weekend.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom line 
is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part of 
registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in the 
police business and we will not be going around and checking for wristbands. 
Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. The bottom line 
is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone else paying for you.

I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and you 
can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!

See y'all there!
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Stefan Creaser]

Yes. And don't let them get in the kitchen else they'll become dinner.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:37 PM, "Linda Palit" 
mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb 
<a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
for the weekend.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom line 
is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part of 
registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in the 
police business and we will not be going around and checking for wristbands. 
Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. The bottom line 
is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone else paying for you.

I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and you 
can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!

See y'all there!
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Stefan Creaser]

Yes. And don't let them get in the kitchen else they'll become dinner.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:37 PM, "Linda Palit" 
mailto:linda.k.pa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb 
<a...@oztotl.com> wrote:
Howdy y'all,

It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
for the weekend.

Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of $80 
for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  If 
you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can work 
something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit cards.  
We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.

TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom line 
is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part of 
registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in the 
police business and we will not be going around and checking for wristbands. 
Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. The bottom line 
is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone else paying for you.

I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and you 
can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!

See y'all there!
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Allan B. Cobb]

Well behaved dogs are welcome. 

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Linda Palit  wrote:

> do I have to register the dogs?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> Howdy y'all,
> 
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
> for the weekend.
> 
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of 
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  
> If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can 
> work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit 
> cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
> 
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
> TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom 
> line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part 
> of registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in 
> the police business and we will not be going around and checking for 
> wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. 
> The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone 
> else paying for you.
> 
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and 
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
> 
> See y'all there!
> Allan
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Allan B. Cobb]

Well behaved dogs are welcome. 

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Linda Palit  wrote:

> do I have to register the dogs?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> Howdy y'all,
> 
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
> for the weekend.
> 
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of 
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  
> If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can 
> work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit 
> cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
> 
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
> TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom 
> line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part 
> of registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in 
> the police business and we will not be going around and checking for 
> wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. 
> The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone 
> else paying for you.
> 
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and 
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
> 
> See y'all there!
> Allan
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Allan B. Cobb]

Well behaved dogs are welcome. 

Sent with my fat thumbs on my iPhone

On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Linda Palit  wrote:

> do I have to register the dogs?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> Howdy y'all,
> 
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be good 
> for the weekend.
> 
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of 
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.  
> If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we can 
> work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not credit 
> cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
> 
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year, after 
> TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The bottom 
> line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An important part 
> of registration is the liability release to be on the property. TCR is not in 
> the police business and we will not be going around and checking for 
> wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who don't register. 
> The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there and everyone 
> else paying for you.
> 
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and 
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have 
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest 
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and 
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
> 
> See y'all there!
> Allan
> 
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Linda Palit]

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:

> Howdy y'all,
>
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
> good for the weekend.
>
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
>  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
> can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
> credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
>
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
> after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
> bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
> important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
> property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
> and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
> don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
> and everyone else paying for you.
>
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
>
> See y'all there!
> Allan
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Linda Palit]

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:

> Howdy y'all,
>
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
> good for the weekend.
>
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
>  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
> can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
> credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
>
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
> after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
> bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
> important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
> property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
> and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
> don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
> and everyone else paying for you.
>
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
>
> See y'all there!
> Allan
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion Registration

[Linda Palit]

do I have to register the dogs?


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:

> Howdy y'all,
>
> It is a little over a week until TCR!  It looks like the weather will be
> good for the weekend.
>
> Here is the breakdown for registration.  Adults $25, kids $15, and a cap of
> $80 for a family (adults and kids).  I do what I can to keep TCR affordable.
>  If you have a financial hardship, feel free to contact me off-list and we
> can work something out. Registration will accept cash and checks but not
> credit cards.  We encourage you to bring cash as it is easiest for us.
>
> TCR has expenses and that is what the registration covers.  Last year,
> after TCR there was a long discussion on the list about registering.  The
> bottom line is, if you come to TCR, you are expected to register.  An
> important part of registration is the liability release to be on the
> property. TCR is not in the police business and we will not be going around
> and checking for wristbands. Part of the registration fee is cover those who
> don't register. The bottom line is that if you don't register, you are there
> and everyone else paying for you.
>
> I hope everyone can come on out and enjoy the fun, festivities, and
> friendships.  TCR has lots of great door prizes and contest prizes.  We have
> some great contests lined up.  You can try your hand at the survey contest
> where you can win survey instruments!  Win at the rope climbing contest and
> you can get rope!  We'll have good prizes for the other contest too!
>
> See y'all there!
> Allan
>
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Ron Miller]

Someone still had to get the porta johns so we did not have 300+ folks 
defecating the land. Not entirely free.

Folks could have got in by just paying the parks per night camping fee of $15 
per car.
http://www.hiddenfallsadventurepark.com/camping.html



 Ron






From: J. LaRue Thomas 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 8:31:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Rather than assume nefarious cheapskate-ism, remember that when we held TCRs on 
private land (no "use fee") the main/only thing the registration fee paid for 
was the food. People who were not there for the Saturday dinner or did not want 
to eat the dinner didn't need to pay. (If this was not the policy this 
certainly 
was the misperception).

Reminding folks that "That was then and this is now and things are different" 
may very well take care of most of this issue. Jacqui 


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

[Gill Edigar]

It would be great if other Grottos or demented  groups would make
floats, etc and participate in the DooDah Parade next year.
--Ediger

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Fritz Holt
 wrote:
> I took quite a few pictures of this spectacle which I hope to post next
> Monday. It was great and took a lot of work (costumes) to produce.

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

[Fritz Holt]

I took quite a few pictures of this spectacle which I hope to post next Monday. 
It was great and took a lot of work (costumes) to produce.

Fritz


From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Denise P
Cc: TexasCavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

PIRATES of the Caribbean!

Strictly rated: ARR!


-WaV
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Denise P 
mailto:pepabe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread...

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot! 
Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year?

Cheers,
Denise

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2010

[Don Cooper]

PIRATES of the Caribbean!

Strictly rated: ARR!


-WaV

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Denise P  wrote:

>  And for my really meaningful contribution to this thread...
>
> Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but I thought the parade was a hoot!
> Strong men, mermaids, candy??? How will they top this next year?
>
> Cheers,
> Denise
>
>

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Dale Barnard]

The sound for the Syphons was great. I could hear all the instruments, 
lead singer, and backup singers. That's a lot to mix, and Rod had them 
sounding great.


Dale

On 10/20/2010 10:42 PM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
And thanks to Rod Goeke for all the AV support (he even came and 
chopped wood with Matt Zap at the pre TCR work day)


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[ellie . thoene]

And thanks to Rod Goeke for all the AV support (he even came and  
chopped wood with Matt Zap at the pre TCR work day)


On Oct 18, 2010, at 8:47 AM, "Allan Cobb"  wrote:


Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people.  
Thanks to all those who came out.


Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a  
while.


I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole  
point of TCR.


I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who  
manned registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal  
Syphons for a rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all  
the people who worked behind the scenes doing all the things that  
make TCR happen.  Thank you to everyone helped.


This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have  
to come to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.


See y'all next year,
Allan

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Jay Jorden]

On the TCR: A memorable event, as always. Put it in a swamp (we've been
there) and cavers will still find creative ways to have fun. Stefan and a
cast of dozens put on an excellent culinary show. Speleolympics-style
competition, mud wrestling, hot tubbing, tale-swapping and more -- provided
something for everyone. Many wonderful friends showed up to share the
weekend. The vendors delivered quite a few keepers, and the Si(y)phons led
us on a musical march through the big-hair days gone by to rock the house.

On the venue: It was what it was -- a big ol' dry ranch with lots of
dirt/gravel roads. We've seen worse. Allan did what he could. The weather
cooperated. Trees were a plus, the waterless scenery a minus. Oh, I know --
didn't offer an alternative, did I? We have some fine ones to the north --
but too far from the Center of the Caving Universe and its satellites. ...
Wouldn't want to start any jokes about the provinces.

On the dust: a bit of nay-saying here ... My left lung finally started
clearing out last night -- but still coughing it up. I suspect some former
asthmatics out there may have also experienced those familiar,
short-of-breath gasps -- accompanied by what feels like a stabbing backache.
The problem: too much dust of talcum-powder consistency was hanging in the
still air most of the time -- much of it resulting from how we were
outnumbered by the larger offroad crowd driving their Toyota FJs, ATVs, and
other knobby-tired 4x4 vehicles way too fast down the middle of these
unmanaged dirtbike trails.

On the dough: I have mixed emotions. The bottom line is just that for TCR:
it's a make-or-break every year. We can't have folks sneaking onto a
pay-per-visit site. So to prevent that, the options of banquet and
no-banquet could be revived: one price for TCR admission, another for TCR
plus the feed. I recall we did this in the past, with those opting for the
latter choice receiving a food and drink coupon. That said, those who
protest about the Saturday feed during registration should be shamed into
buying it -- it's a great thing!

Jay

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 7:57 PM,  wrote:

> What's a little dust between friends, anyway?  It all came off in the first
> shower.  (The truck is next.)
>
>  Roger
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Allan Cobb 
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:47 am
> Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
>
>  Howdy y'all,
>
> TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
> to all those who came out.
>
> Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
>
> I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
> TCR.
>
> I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
> registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
> rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
> behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to
> everyone helped.
>
> This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
> to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
>
> See y'all next year,
> Allan
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Fritz Holt]

OK, charge each individual entering the event a fee based on the cost for 
leasing the premises and the portapotties (even if they prefer to go in the 
woods). Charge separately for food and drink. I'm sure this is 
oversimplification as there are other costs involved that must be shared. Or, 
charge a fee for all costs except food and pay for that when you eat. The 
problem would be knowing how many would be partaking of the feast. I'm sure the 
board or organizers can come up with a satisfactory solution.

Geezer, and fortunate to be.


From: freddie poer [mailto:freddiepoe...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:16 PM
To: Carol Belski
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

So far, Carol Belski has been the only one on this list to make a suggestion 
that doesn't involve villianizing those that don't want to pay for the food and 
beer part of TCR. All other responses have basically been a police type 
response that isn't needed or probably wanted at events like TCR. Some people 
do want to attend TCR and cannot afford the full price, contrary to what some 
others might think. In the long ago past, when TCR was still called Texas Old 
Timers Reunion (the original name) people had an option to not have to pay for 
food they weren't going to eat. Some people don't want to stand in line for 
long periods of time, or do not drink the beer that is provided. There should 
be an option for those that want to attend but not partake of those activities. 
At events like these, you will always have a few who do not register for some 
reason. You may not like that, but it is a fact of any large event like TCR has 
become. I personally think there is a better approach than turning yourself 
into an impromptu cop, or harboring bad feelings about those that do not 
conduct themselves the same way you do. Where is your sense of caver comraderie 
or cohesion when you are ready to victimize fellow cavers who don't act the way 
you think they should? Maybe some of us should leave our better than thou 
attitudes behind when we attend these functions, and just let bygones be 
bygones.

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Carol Belski  wrote:

From: Carol Belski 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
To: "Gill Edigar" 
Cc: "Allan Cobb" , texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 2:31 PM
Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want to eat the 
provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per family).  I suspect 
this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius could figure 
it out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the costs.  .  just 
a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb 
> http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=a...@oztotl.com>>
>  wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>>
>> Allan
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Linda Palit]

Most people pay.

That is a good thing, since we pay for them whether they pay or not. 

It would take a lot of volunteers to have people pay at every station and a
lot of money would have to be carried around all the time. 

 

Nice to hear all the different ideas, but things work pretty well and most
people are pretty honest, or I like to believe that about cavers. 

Things evolve as access to land and sites evolves.  

And it is always such a treat to see so many people.

 

From: SS [mailto:back2scool...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:24 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

 

How do you know they just didn't wear their wrist band.  I didn't don mine
until suppertime..  I can imagine there are some who just forgot or just
plain did not put their wrist bands on at all.  

 

If this is a problem the most surefire way to safeguard against this in the
future would be to charge for dinner at the dinner table, charge for entry
into caver camp at the entry to the Caver Camp, Charge for beer at the beer
table (or sell a wrist band for beer at the beer table and no refills w/o a
wrist band.)  

 

This way you get the money for everyone for everything without insulting
anyone.  Event 101.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:52 PM
To: Ron Miller
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

 

But the biggest cost is *not* the *food*.

 

Logistically having two organisations collecting fees *is* a nightmare, and
the fee the park would charge is unlikely the be the same as TCR charges for
the same. I'm not in the least bit involved with the organisation of TCR
(other than the food) but I could easily assume that TCR pays a flat fee to
the landowner which is then amortised over the TCR attendees to keep the
cost *down*; by extension the fee to not eat the Saturday meal at TCR could
be higher than eating it!

 

Stefan

 

From: Ron Miller [mailto:rons...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:03 PM
To: Carol Belski; Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

 

I have heard some folks comment that they do not want to pay for food at the
event. Probably why they choose not to pay at all. I would say to let the
park office collect an entrance fee per family before you can enter. Then
have TCR collect an event fee in camp minus the facilities costs.

 

Ron

 

 

  _  

From: Carol Belski 
To: Gill Edigar 
Cc: Allan Cobb ; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want to eat
the provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per family).  I
suspect this would be a bo! okkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius
could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the
costs.  .  just a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>> 
>> Allan
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[J. LaRue Thomas]

Rather than assume nefarious cheapskate-ism, remember that when we held TCRs 
on private land (no "use fee") the main/only thing the registration fee paid 
for was the food. People who were not there for the Saturday dinner or did 
not want to eat the dinner didn't need to pay. (If this was not the policy 
this certainly was the misperception).


Reminding folks that "That was then and this is now and things are 
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[SS]

How do you know they just didn't wear their wrist band.  I didn't don mine
until suppertime..  I can imagine there are some who just forgot or just
plain did not put their wrist bands on at all.  

 

If this is a problem the most surefire way to safeguard against this in the
future would be to charge for dinner at the dinner table, charge for entry
into caver camp at the entry to the Caver Camp, Charge for beer at the beer
table (or sell a wrist band for beer at the beer table and no refills w/o a
wrist band.)  

 

This way you get the money for everyone for everything without insulting
anyone.  Event 101.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:52 PM
To: Ron Miller
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

 

But the biggest cost is *not* the *food*.

 

Logistically having two organisations collecting fees *is* a nightmare, and
the fee the park would charge is unlikely the be the same as TCR charges for
the same. I'm not in the least bit involved with the organisation of TCR
(other than the food) but I could easily assume that TCR pays a flat fee to
the landowner which is then amortised over the TCR attendees to keep the
cost *down*; by extension the fee to not eat the Saturday meal at TCR could
be higher than eating it!

 

Stefan

 

From: Ron Miller [mailto:rons...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:03 PM
To: Carol Belski; Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

 

I have heard some folks comment that they do not want to pay for food at the
event. Probably why they choose not to pay at all. I would say to let the
park office collect an entrance fee per family before you can enter. Then
have TCR collect an event fee in camp minus the facilities costs.

 

Ron

 

 

  _  

From: Carol Belski 
To: Gill Edigar 
Cc: Allan Cobb ; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want to eat
the provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per family).  I
suspect this would be a bo! okkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius
could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the
costs.  .  just a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>> 
>> Allan
> 
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[wa5pok]

What Carl said!

~F~


From: Carl Kunath 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:05 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010


Dusty?
What dust?
Never noticed a thing.
Too busy laughing with old friends and making new ones.
Had a great time!

Many thanks to Allan and all the other, mostly unsung, heroes who make this 
event possible!

===Carl Kunath






  - Original Message - 
  From: Allan Cobb 
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:47 AM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010


  Howdy y'all,

  TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks 
  to all those who came out.

  Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

  I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of 
  TCR.

  I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned 
  registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a 
  rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked 
  behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to 
  everyone helped.

  This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come 
  to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

  See y'all next year,
  Allan 


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[freddie poer]

So far, Carol Belski has been the only one on this list to make a suggestion 
that doesn't involve villianizing those that don't want to pay for the food and 
beer part of TCR. All other responses have basically been a police type 
response that isn't needed or probably wanted at events like TCR. Some people 
do want to attend TCR and cannot afford the full price, contrary to what some 
others might think. In the long ago past, when TCR was still called Texas Old 
Timers Reunion (the original name) people had an option to not have to pay for 
food they weren't going to eat. Some people don't want to stand in line for 
long periods of time, or do not drink the beer that is provided. There should 
be an option for those that want to attend but not partake of those activities. 
At events like these, you will always have a few who do not register for some 
reason. You may not like that, but it is a fact of any large event like TCR has 
become. I personally think
 there is a better approach than turning yourself into an impromptu cop, or 
harboring bad feelings about those that do not conduct themselves the same way 
you do. Where is your sense of caver comraderie or cohesion when you are ready 
to victimize fellow cavers who don't act the way you think they should? Maybe 
some of us should leave our better than thou attitudes behind when we attend 
these functions, and just let bygones be bygones. 

--- On Tue, 10/19/10, Carol Belski  wrote:


From: Carol Belski 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
To: "Gill Edigar" 
Cc: "Allan Cobb" , texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 2:31 PM


Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want to eat the 
provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per family).  I suspect 
this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius could figure 
it out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the costs.  .  just 
a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>> 
>> Allan
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Stefan Creaser]

But the biggest cost is *not* the *food*...

Logistically having two organisations collecting fees *is* a nightmare, and the 
fee the park would charge is unlikely the be the same as TCR charges for the 
same. I'm not in the least bit involved with the organisation of TCR (other 
than the food) but I could easily assume that TCR pays a flat fee to the 
landowner which is then amortised over the TCR attendees to keep the cost 
*down*; by extension the fee to not eat the Saturday meal at TCR could be 
higher than eating it!

Stefan

From: Ron Miller [mailto:rons...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:03 PM
To: Carol Belski; Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

I have heard some folks comment that they do not want to pay for food at the 
event. Probably why they choose not to pay at all. I would say to let the park 
office collect an entrance fee per family before you can enter. Then have TCR 
collect an event fee in camp minus the facilities costs.

Ron



From: Carol Belski 
To: Gill Edigar 
Cc: Allan Cobb ; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want to eat the 
provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per family).  I suspect 
this would be a bo! okkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius could figure 
it out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the costs.  .  just 
a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb 
> mailto:a...@oztotl.com>> wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>>
>> Allan
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Ron Miller]

I have heard some folks comment that they do not want to pay for food at the 
event. Probably why they choose not to pay at all. I would say to let the park 
office collect an entrance fee per family before you can enter. Then have TCR 
collect an event fee in camp minus the facilities costs.


 Ron






From: Carol Belski 
To: Gill Edigar 
Cc: Allan Cobb ; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:31:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want to eat the 
provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per family).  I suspect 
this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some logistics genius could figure 
it 
out, and TCR would reap a few more pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a 
thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
> 
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>> 
>> Allan
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Stefan Creaser]

An essential part of TCR is the "big feed" on Saturday night; it's an 
opportunity for *everyone* to come together and meet their friends, or even new 
people, without having to go search them out or attend the same activities they 
are.

WRT " ...those who can't/don't want to eat... " then join up with the cooks and 
cook what you can/want to eat that perhaps other people will too!

We, the cooks, *do* make an effort to provide healthy, allergy and lifestyle 
aware foods. For instance, 2 of the 3 salad recipes required fish sauce which 
is not (according to my veggie contacts) vegetarian, so we substituted. The 
*normal* substitute for fish sauce contains wheat but that's not acceptable to 
those who need gluten free, so we substituted that. Did you notice... don't 
think so! Etc. etc.

The food is not the biggest part of the cost of a TCR but it's the only bit for 
which a wristband is checked. It should not be what gates you buying a 
wristband or not, that part is just your conscience.

Cheers,
Stefan


-Original Message-
From: Fritz Holt [mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:22 PM
To: 'Carol Belski'; Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

It doesn't take a logistics genius to figure this out. Even I can do it.
It primarily takes all event paying individuals to be observant and report 
those who they know have failed to pay. It ain't squealing, it's fair play.
We pay, why shouldn't they?

Fritz

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From: Carol Belski [mailto:bels...@valornet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:32 PM
To: Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want
to eat the provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per
family).  I suspect this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some
logistics genius could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more
pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>>
>> Allan
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Fritz Holt]

It doesn't take a logistics genius to figure this out. Even I can do it. 
It primarily takes all event paying individuals to be observant and report 
those who they know have failed to pay. It ain't squealing, it's fair play.
We pay, why shouldn't they?

Fritz

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From: Carol Belski [mailto:bels...@valornet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:32 PM
To: Gill Edigar
Cc: Allan Cobb; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want  
to eat the provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per  
family).  I suspect this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some  
logistics genius could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more  
pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a thought.

Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:

> If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
> probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
> found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
> to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
> it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
> about um.
> --Ediger
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
>> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>>
>> Allan
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Carol Belski]

Maybe a different "registration fee" for those who can't/don't want  
to eat the provided fare:  charge a " camping only" fee (flat fee per  
family).  I suspect this would be a bookkeeping nightmare, but some  
logistics genius could figure it out, and TCR would reap a few more  
pennies to cover the costs.  .  just a thought.


Carol


On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Gill Edigar wrote:


If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:

The registration count was indeed 381 people.

Allan


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Stefan Creaser]

Every year I forget one, and I *knew* I was missing someone...

Thanks also to Jim Kennedy for doing the pork fried rice, and of course to his 
helpers!

Cheers,
Stefan

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:58 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Hi All,

I hope you enjoyed the food at this year's TCR**.

I would personally and publically like to thank my excellent team of cooks who 
had to put up with me on the day and for a few weeks beforehand :-)

Your cooks were:
Thai Mains - Laura Coe, James Brown
Salads - Kristina Hager, Alia Stokic, Leslie Bell, Wes Schumacher
Veg - Aimee Beveridge
Starters - Don Cooper
BBQ - Vico Jones, Terry Holsinger and myself.
Dessert - Jocie Hooper, Grace Borengasser, Matt Zappitello

Please thank them next time you see them!

I would also like to thank the people who came by during the day and helped us 
out by chopping up stuff, and as dinner time got closer and closer were 
co-opted into doing some cooking! There were too many to name here, but they 
were *all* appreciated

Thanks too to ASS who en-mass turned up to help serve (and chop stuff too!).

(Will the members of the latter two groups send me an email, please...)

Cheers,
Stefan

(** If not, please email me privately with suggestions)

From: Allan Cobb [a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: 18 October 2010 08:47
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[SGentry177]

Well said Fritz, we have the same problem at the Kentucky  Speleofest. 
There are two caving preserves in Kentucky that are supported  by caving 
events. 
For every person who goes out of their way not to pay takes  away money 
that could be used the up keep, maintenance, improvements  of the preserves. 
Campgrounds are getting harder to find, much less rent for  groups like us. 
And there is also the cost of event insurance that cuts into the  profits. The 
bottom line is those people are enjoying the benefits and have no  idea or 
care about what it takes to host an event and what the net profits are  used 
for.  I've been following the Texas cave scene for several years now.  The 
TSA and TCMA are both great organizations that work to protect the caves of  
Texas.  I know a few of you personally and are friends with some of you on  
Facebook and only know rest of you from the here. My hats off to all  the 
great work being done in Texas. 
 
Steve Gentry
NSS 25136RL FE

I GoodSearch for  American Cave Conservation Association. Raise money for 
your favorite charity or  school just by searching the Internet with 
GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com -  powered by Yahoo! 
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(http://www.goodsearch.com/?charityid=842245) 

Take nothing but pictures, kill nothing but time, leave  nothing but 
footprints
 

 
In a message dated 10/19/2010 12:32:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fh...@townandcountryins.com writes:

It is  difficult for me to believe that a Texas caver would purposefully 
cheat the  supporting members of our organizations out of $ 35. to be a part  
of the  best caving event of the year. I don't understand why every caver is 
not a  member of TSA and TCMA as the cost is nominal. Some have expressed 
their  reasons, all of which are lame. Cost is not an issue. If you can 
purchase  related equipment and gasoline to attend, you can afford the 
membership 
fees.  If you arrived after hours and "forgot" to register later, you can 
still send  a check to Linda Palit. If you did this on purpose, you do not 
belong in our  group. Go cheat someone else. I will save this post for next 
year and Gill and  I will remind everyone to watch for those without a wrist 
band and ask them  why they don't have one.

It was a great event and thanks again to all  who worked to make it 
possible.

Fritz



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From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On  Behalf Of 
Gill Edigar
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Allan  Cobb
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas  Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

If one had walked around the campground  as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist  bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't  registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any  registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the  future if you know
about um.
--Ediger

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at  2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> The registration  count was indeed 381 people.
>
>  Allan

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Fritz Holt]

Yes, my Ford Exploder and ATV get their bath tonight after work.

Fritz


From: cavera...@aol.com [mailto:cavera...@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:58 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

What's a little dust between friends, anyway?  It all came off in the first 
shower.  (The truck is next.)

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Allan Cobb 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:47 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks to 
all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty. That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned 
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a 
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked 
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen. Thank you to 
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come to 
TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan
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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Fritz Holt]

It is difficult for me to believe that a Texas caver would purposefully cheat 
the supporting members of our organizations out of $ 35. to be a part  of the 
best caving event of the year. I don't understand why every caver is not a 
member of TSA and TCMA as the cost is nominal. Some have expressed their 
reasons, all of which are lame. Cost is not an issue. If you can purchase 
related equipment and gasoline to attend, you can afford the membership fees. 
If you arrived after hours and "forgot" to register later, you can still send a 
check to Linda Palit. If you did this on purpose, you do not belong in our 
group. Go cheat someone else. I will save this post for next year and Gill and 
I will remind everyone to watch for those without a wrist band and ask them why 
they don't have one.

It was a great event and thanks again to all who worked to make it possible.

Fritz



-Original Message-
From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill 
Edigar
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Allan Cobb
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>
> Allan

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Stefan Creaser]

Hi All,

I hope you enjoyed the food at this year's TCR**.

I would personally and publically like to thank my excellent team of cooks who 
had to put up with me on the day and for a few weeks beforehand :-)

Your cooks were:
Thai Mains - Laura Coe, James Brown
Salads - Kristina Hager, Alia Stokic, Leslie Bell, Wes Schumacher
Veg - Aimee Beveridge
Starters - Don Cooper
BBQ - Vico Jones, Terry Holsinger and myself.
Dessert - Jocie Hooper, Grace Borengasser, Matt Zappitello

Please thank them next time you see them!

I would also like to thank the people who came by during the day and helped us 
out by chopping up stuff, and as dinner time got closer and closer were 
co-opted into doing some cooking! There were too many to name here, but they 
were *all* appreciated

Thanks too to ASS who en-mass turned up to help serve (and chop stuff too!).

(Will the members of the latter two groups send me an email, please...)

Cheers,
Stefan

(** If not, please email me privately with suggestions)

From: Allan Cobb [a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: 18 October 2010 08:47
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Fritz Holt]

The dust was minor compared to the camaraderie, visiting with friends, meeting 
new ones and the overall good time had by all.
Thanks Allan, Linda, Lyndon, Pete, Stefan and the many others who made it 
happen. Location is the least important part of this great event and I will 
never have a complaint except we should have it semi-annually.

Fritz


From: Carl Kunath [mailto:carl.kun...@suddenlink.net]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 9:05 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Dusty?
What dust?
Never noticed a thing.
Too busy laughing with old friends and making new ones.
Had a great time!

Many thanks to Allan and all the other, mostly unsung, heroes who make this 
event possible!

===Carl Kunath



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From: Allan Cobb
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[caverarch]

What's a little dust between friends, anyway?  It all came off in the first 
shower.  (The truck is next.)


Roger





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From: Allan Cobb 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 18, 2010 8:47 am
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010


Howdy y'all, 
 
TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks to 
all those who came out. 
 
Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while. 
 
I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of 
TCR. 
 
I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned 
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a 
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked 
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to 
everyone helped. 
 
This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come to 
TCR next year to see the next big surprise. 
 
See y'all next year, 
Allan  
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Gill Edigar]

If one had walked around the campground as supper was being served
probably another 50 or 60 or so without wrist bands would have been
found eating supper at their own camp. They hadn't registered. TCR had
to pay their use fee but didn't collect any registration fee to cover
it. Try to discourage anyone scamming TCR in the future if you know
about um.
--Ediger

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Allan Cobb  wrote:
> The registration count was indeed 381 people.
>
> Allan

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Stefan Creaser]

But I've done the vast majority of my caving in England and Europe and the 
biggest problem has been the rain...

Can't seem to recall dust being a problem, but been in awe of seeing 'dry' 
riverbeds that were 3m deep in water just a couple of days before ;-)

From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:07 PM
To: Allan Cobb
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

And I must add - if you've EVER been caving - you've probably camped in way 
dustier conditions!!

-WaV
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The registration count was indeed 381 people.


Allan

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Don Cooper]

And I must add - if you've EVER been caving - you've probably camped in way
dustier conditions!!

-WaV

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[Allan Cobb]

The registration count was indeed 381 people.

Allan

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Don Cooper]

I think I heard "381"

-WaV

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:16 PM, mark gee wrote:

> We want to know. How many showed up ?- not counting the unwanted guest from
> the party up the hill.
> Happy Caving!!
> --- On *Mon, 10/18/10, Carl Kunath * wrote:
>
>
> From: Carl Kunath 
>
> Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 9:05 AM
>
>
>  Dusty?
> What dust?
> Never noticed a thing.
> Too busy laughing with old friends and making new ones.
> Had a great time!
>
> Many thanks to Allan and all the other, mostly unsung, heroes who make this
> event possible!
>
> ===Carl Kunath
>
>  --
> --
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Allan 
> Cobb
> *To:* 
> texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 8:47 AM
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
>
> Howdy y'all,
>
> TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
> to all those who came out.
>
> Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
>
> I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
>
> TCR.
>
> I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
> registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
> rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
> behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
> everyone helped.
>
> This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
> to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
>
> See y'all next year,
> Allan
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[mark gee]

We want to know. How many showed up ?- not counting the unwanted guest from the 
party up the hill.
Happy Caving!!
--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Carl Kunath  wrote:


From: Carl Kunath 
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 9:05 AM





Dusty?
What dust?
Never noticed a thing.
Too busy laughing with old friends and making new ones.
Had a great time!
 
Many thanks to Allan and all the other, mostly unsung, heroes who make this 
event possible!
 
===Carl Kunath
 






- Original Message - 
From: Allan Cobb 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks 
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of 
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned 
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a 
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked 
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to 
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come 
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan 


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010 - Need YOUR Photos!

[Mark . Alman]

 
Great job, yet again, Allan!
 
 
Be sure to get those cards, letters, and PHOTOS sent in to Butch and me so we 
can memorialize this historic event.
 
 
Butch's email for the TSA website is:   bfra...@maverickgrotto.org 
 
 
My email for the full color (ooh, ahh!) inside cover montage in the next TEXAS 
CAVER  is:   texascav...@yahoo.com
 
 
Thanks to Allan, Ellie, Stefan and his Caver Cooking Crew, the Greater Houston 
Grotto and Lyndon for running Registration, Dave "Cave" for his killer 
margaritas, the UT and Aggie Grottos for the Mud Pitathon, and to Fritz Holt 
for allowing me the use of his ATV to do a LOT of sightseeing around the ranch 
and almost getting myself lost!
 
 
Counting down the days till the next get-together April 1st to 3rd at Fort 
Clark Springs!
 
 
Mark
 
 
 
 



From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Mon 10/18/2010 8:47 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010



Howdy y'all,

TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
to all those who came out.

Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.

I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
TCR.

I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
everyone helped.

This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.

See y'all next year,
Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Nico Escamilla]

Indeed, what dust?
I didnt notice either, albeit my car and my shoes did.
Thanks everyone who worked to make it happen you know who you are, also
thanks to all my old friends for their contribution to the great time I had
this weekend and the new ones too.

Im ready for next year, where's it going to be?
Nico

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Carl Kunath wrote:

>  Dusty?
> What dust?
> Never noticed a thing.
> Too busy laughing with old friends and making new ones.
> Had a great time!
>
> Many thanks to Allan and all the other, mostly unsung, heroes who make this
> event possible!
>
> ===Carl Kunath
>
>  --
> --
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Allan Cobb 
> *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Sent:* Monday, October 18, 2010 8:47 AM
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010
>
> Howdy y'all,
>
> TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
> to all those who came out.
>
> Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
>
> I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
>
> TCR.
>
> I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
> registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
> rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
> behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
> everyone helped.
>
> This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
> to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
>
> See y'all next year,
> Allan
>
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion "Dust Bowl" 2010

[Amanda Scott]

Allan and everyone that helped make TCR possible, Thank You!  We had a
blast!

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Allan Cobb  wrote:

> Howdy y'all,
>
> TCR is a great event because it is attended by really great people. Thanks
> to all those who came out.
>
> Yes, it was a little dusty.  That happens when it doesn't rain for a while.
>
> I did see lots and lots of people having fun and that is the whole point of
> TCR.
>
> I really want to thank the cooks for the great meal, the people who manned
> registration, Pete for the hot tub and sauna, the Terminal Syphons for a
> rockin' show, the vendors and organizations, and all the people who worked
> behind the scenes doing all the things that make TCR happen.  Thank you to
> everyone helped.
>
> This year we tried to find the dustiest spot we could, you'll have to come
> to TCR next year to see the next big surprise.
>
> See y'all next year,
> Allan
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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[germanyj]

 According to the foto, lower right corner, 1983


 


 

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Cc: a...@oztotl.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 3:57 pm
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When was that?  there's little grey in his bread..



Ted

Oct 19, 2009 10:53:54 AM, rons...@yahoo.com wrote:







Ed Alexander photo from James Jasek.

http://ron.mllr.googlepages.com/Alexander.html












From: Allan B. Cobb 
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 6:35:51 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

As has already been mentioned, there is bad news from TCR.

Early on Saturday morning, Ed Alexander was found unconscious in the water near 
the hot tub. He was pulled from the water and cavers started CPR.  911 was 
called.  Approximately 30 minutes later, Ed was transported by ambulance to a 
hospital in San Antonio. Later in the day on Saturday, Ed passed away.

I wish to express my deepest condolances to the family.  Please remember Ed and 
keep his family in your thoughts and prayers.

Allan Cobb 

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[tbsamsel]

When was that?  there's little grey in his bread..
TedOct 19, 2009 10:53:54 AM, rons...@yahoo.com wrote:


Ed Alexander photo from James Jasek.http://ron.mllr.googlepages.com/Alexander.html



From: Allan B. Cobb To: Texascavers@texascavers.comSent: Sun, October 18, 2009 6:35:51 PMSubject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers ReunionAs has already been mentioned, there is bad news from TCR.Early on Saturday morning, Ed Alexander was found unconscious in the water near the hot tub. He was pulled from the water and cavers started CPR.  911 was called.  Approximately 30 minutes later, Ed was transported by ambulance to a hospital in San Antonio. Later in the day on Saturday, Ed passed away.I wish to express my deepest condolances to the family.  Please remember Ed and keep his family in your thoughts and prayers.Allan Cobb -Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com

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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Ron Miller]

Ed Alexander photo from James Jasek.

http://ron.mllr.googlepages.com/Alexander.html







From: Allan B. Cobb 
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 6:35:51 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

As has already been mentioned, there is bad news from TCR.

Early on Saturday morning, Ed Alexander was found unconscious in the water near 
the hot tub. He was pulled from the water and cavers started CPR.  911 was 
called.  Approximately 30 minutes later, Ed was transported by ambulance to a 
hospital in San Antonio. Later in the day on Saturday, Ed passed away.

I wish to express my deepest condolances to the family.  Please remember Ed and 
keep his family in your thoughts and prayers.

Allan Cobb 

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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Sheryl Rieck]

   I would like to offer my condolences to Ed's family as well.  You
will be remembered in my prayers.  
   
   Sheryl Rieck, GHG
   



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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[caverarch]

It looks like we've got to party hardy to match the rain-soaked folks getting 
down at the TAG Fall Cave In last weekend:




  TAG Photos
  By: Scott Fee  (Birmingham, Alabama)


To heck with rain and the mud, when you are in the PCB aka Spelunkoligists 
Award 
Winning Camp, they even tarp the road and bring their own zip line! Did you 
miss 
seeing it during tag? 
Here are some photos to enjoy:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/caverscott/sets/72157622438704575/


Thanks to every volunteer who worked so hard so that about 1,100 of us could 
have a great weekend.
Thanks for the inspiration, Scott!




Roger Moore

GHG






 

RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008

[Butch Fralia]

Due to a health issue, I won't be able to make TCR this year.  I'd like to
encourage everyone to take lots of pictures and make them available for the
TSA website TCR 2008 photo spread.

Butch Fralia


-Original Message-
From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 11:45 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com; New Mexico E-Mailing List
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008

Howdy Y'all,

This time next week I hope all of you are at Paradise Canyon 
(http://paradisecanyon.com/) for the 31st Texas Cavers Reunion.  If you been

before, you know you will have a great time.  If you haven't been before, 
you really need to come and have fun with all of us.  The site is the same 
as last year.  The water is a little lower than last year but it is still 
flowing well.  The long range weather forecast looks like sunny and warm 
days with cool nights.  For more information and direction, visit the 
Paradise Canyon website, the TSA website 
(http://www.cavetexas.org/maps/tcr2007.html), or the TCR website 
(http://www.oztotl.com/tcr).

The cost for TCR is the same as last year, $25 for adults, $15 for children,

and $15 if you are an old time Texas caver!  We will have the hot tub and 
sauna as usual.  We are planning a great feed on Saturday night followed by 
various awards and wonderful door prizes (thanks Whole Earth Provision 
Company! and others).  The Bexar Grotto will have a spaghetti dinner on 
Friday night for a small donation and TCMA will have a breakfast on Saturday

morning for a small donation.  There will be a TSS meeting on Saturday 
morning.  On Sunday, there will be a general members meeting of the Texas 
Cave Management Association followed by a general members meeting of the 
TSA.

We have the park until 4 PM on Sunday so please help us out by picking up 
any trash when you leave.

See ya'll there...

Allan 


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Butch Fralia]

Can we come down on Thursday?

Butch


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From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:01 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

> The terms of our contract state that we need to be out of the park by 4 PM

> on Thursday.

Oops, that should read that we need to be out by 4 PM on Sunday! 


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Allan Cobb]

The terms of our contract state that we need to be out of the park by 4 PM 
on Thursday.


Oops, that should read that we need to be out by 4 PM on Sunday! 



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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Allan Cobb]

I'm working on it.  I urge people to take space limitations into account when 
considering bring an RV.  Also, I do not think electricity will be available.

Allan
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  From: Butch Fralia 
  To: 'Allan Cobb' ; 'TexasCavers' 
  Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion


  Did you ever find out what the status is for RV's?

   

  Butch

   

   

  From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com] 
  Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:58 AM
  To: TexasCavers; New Mexico E-Mailing List
  Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

   

  Howdy y'all,

   

  I hope everyone weathered Hurricane Ike.

   

  The 31st Texas Cavers Reunion is right around the corner!  The weekend of 
October 10-12, we will be gathering at Paradise Canyon 
(http://paradisecanyon.com/) on the Medina River for all the usual fun and 
games.  We hope that all cavers are planning to attend this year.  I have 
ordered great weather and the water is fine.

   

  For more information and directions, you can visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.

   

  See y'all there,

  Allan

RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Butch Fralia]

Did you ever find out what the status is for RV's?
 
Butch
 
 
From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:58 AM
To: TexasCavers; New Mexico E-Mailing List
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion
 
Howdy y'all,
 
I hope everyone weathered Hurricane Ike.
 
The 31st Texas Cavers Reunion is right around the corner!  The weekend of
October 10-12, we will be gathering at Paradise Canyon
(http://paradisecanyon.com/) on the Medina River for all the usual fun and
games.  We hope that all cavers are planning to attend this year.  I have
ordered great weather and the water is fine.
 
For more information and directions, you can visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.
 
See y'all there,
Allan

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Joe Ranzau]

"rolling parking lot" implies that you might actually move...  Doubtful.

Joe

j...@oztotl.com

Sent while mobile

On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:10 PM, "Kurt L. Menking"  wrote:

Just a comment concerning getting to TCR.  You might want to map out  
a route that avoids Loop 1604 from Bandera Rd (SH 16) to Culebra  
(471) if you’ll be in that area between 4-6pm on Friday.




There are several alternate routes that work much better than the  
1604 rolling parking lot at that time of day.




Kurt







From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Allan Cobb'; 'TexasCavers'; 'New Mexico E-Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion



Don’t forget there’s a map to Paradise Canyon on the TSA website to  
help plan your route.  It’s at:  http://cavetexas.org/maps/tcr2008.htm 
l.  Being a Google Map, you can zoom in and out, as well as drag the 
 map view around.  There’s also a TCR page at:  http://cavetexas.org/events/TCR/index.htm 
l though the one Allan maintains below is probably more up to date.




Butch Fralia





From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:58 AM
To: TexasCavers; New Mexico E-Mailing List
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion



Howdy y'all,



I hope everyone weathered Hurricane Ike.



The 31st Texas Cavers Reunion is right around the corner!  The  
weekend of October 10-12, we will be gathering at Paradise Canyon (http://paradisecanyon.com/ 
) on the Medina River for all the usual fun and games.  We hope that  
all cavers are planning to attend this year.  I have ordered great  
weather and the water is fine.




For more information and directions, you can visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.



See y'all there,

Allan

RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Kurt L. Menking]

Just a comment concerning getting to TCR.  You might want to map out a
route that avoids Loop 1604 from Bandera Rd (SH 16) to Culebra (471) if
you'll be in that area between 4-6pm on Friday.

 

There are several alternate routes that work much better than the 1604
rolling parking lot at that time of day.  

 

Kurt

 

 

 

From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:03 PM
To: 'Allan Cobb'; 'TexasCavers'; 'New Mexico E-Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

 

Don't forget there's a map to Paradise Canyon on the TSA website to help
plan your route.  It's at:  http://cavetexas.org/maps/tcr2008.html.
Being a Google Map, you can zoom in and out, as well as drag the map
view around.  There's also a TCR page at:
http://cavetexas.org/events/TCR/index.html though the one Allan
maintains below is probably more up to date.

 

Butch Fralia

 

 

From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:58 AM
To: TexasCavers; New Mexico E-Mailing List
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

 

Howdy y'all,

 

I hope everyone weathered Hurricane Ike.

 

The 31st Texas Cavers Reunion is right around the corner!  The weekend
of October 10-12, we will be gathering at Paradise Canyon
(http://paradisecanyon.com/) on the Medina River for all the usual fun
and games.  We hope that all cavers are planning to attend this year.  I
have ordered great weather and the water is fine.

 

For more information and directions, you can visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.

 

See y'all there,

Allan

RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion

[Butch Fralia]

Don't forget there's a map to Paradise Canyon on the TSA website to help
plan your route.  It's at:  http://cavetexas.org/maps/tcr2008.html.  Being a
Google Map, you can zoom in and out, as well as drag the map view around.
There's also a TCR page at:  http://cavetexas.org/events/TCR/index.html
though the one Allan maintains below is probably more up to date.
 
Butch Fralia
 
 
From: Allan Cobb [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:58 AM
To: TexasCavers; New Mexico E-Mailing List
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion
 
Howdy y'all,
 
I hope everyone weathered Hurricane Ike.
 
The 31st Texas Cavers Reunion is right around the corner!  The weekend of
October 10-12, we will be gathering at Paradise Canyon
(http://paradisecanyon.com/) on the Medina River for all the usual fun and
games.  We hope that all cavers are planning to attend this year.  I have
ordered great weather and the water is fine.
 
For more information and directions, you can visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.
 
See y'all there,
Allan

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

[ac]

I'm not sure what the RV situation will be as they have made some changes in 
the park.  I am meeting with the owner of the park and will see what I can find 
out.  We still have several details to work out.  I will post more information 
as it becomes available.

Allan
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  From: Ron Miller 
  To: a...@kihikihi.com ; Cave Texas 
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!


  I was informed by someone who called the campground that there would be a 
$50/night fee for those with RV's. There is no designated RV spaces from what I 
can remember and there is no electrical hookups. Can someone verify what the RV 
accommodation's is going to be? Inquiring minds want to know.


  Ron Miller




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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

[Ron Miller]

I was informed by someone who called the campground that there would be a 
$50/night fee for those with RV's. There is no designated RV spaces from what I 
can remember and there is no electrical hookups. Can someone verify what the RV 
accommodation's is going to be? Inquiring minds want to know.


Ron Miller

RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

[Fritz Holt]

All Texas rivers west of the Balcones Fault are fantastic (clear).
Fritz

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From: a...@kihikihi.com [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:37 AM
To: Cave Texas; Cave NM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

> Being a little earlier in October should give us slightly warming weather
> so we can all enjoy the Blanco River.

Doh!  That should read the Medina River.


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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

[Fritz Holt]

Allan/Linda,
Are we going to have a garage sale as we did last year to donate the proceeds 
to TCMA?
Fritz

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From: a...@kihikihi.com [mailto:a...@kihikihi.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:28 AM
To: Cave Texas; Cave NM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

Greetings y'all,

Summer is coming to a close and everyone is looking at what to do over Labor
Day Weekend.  As you starting thinking about your fall plans, make sure you
write down the date for the Texas Cavers Reunion.  TCR will take place on
the weekend of October 10-12 and will once again be at Paradise Canyon
(http://paradisecanyon.com/).  This is the second weekend of October rather
than the traditional third weekend of October.  We had a scheduling conflict
with the site and the date change was the best move.  Being a little earlier
in October should give us slightly warming weather so we can all enjoy the
Blanco River.  For directions, see either the Paradise Canyon website or
visit www.oztotl.com/tcr.

This year we are bringing back an old tradition that is being set up by Don
Broussard.

Tarp Sale!   Caving gear you no longer use.  Camping gear anyone could use.
Bring that wet suit which shrank too much to wear anymore.  That head lamp
you do not like. Slide projectors, flash bulbs, someone must want it!
A big blue tarp will lay on the ground.  Put a price tag including your name
on your item.If you see something you like, put your money and its price
tag in the box on the corner of the tarp.  Saturday before supper come by
the box and extract your tag and money.  This is not a supervised tarp; we
trust one another to be honest.

Money not collected Saturday will be saved until you arrise Sunday.  Find
Don Broussard for any questions.

Make your plans to be at TCR for all the fun!

See y'all there...

Allan


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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion!

[ac]

Being a little earlier in October should give us slightly warming weather 
so we can all enjoy the Blanco River.


Doh!  That should read the Medina River. 



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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008

[John Brooks]

Of course I mean TCR!

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On Jun 30, 2008, at 11:13 PM, "Stefan Creaser"  wrote:

John,

Well I hope you mean TCR! If you don't then please put your name forward
as a cook this year, we'd appreciate your input ;-)

Cheers,
Stefan
(Chief TCR mug^h^h^h cook)

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From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] 

Well...we all know which event will have better BBQ!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:22 PM, "Alex Sproul"  wrote:

Allan said:
October 10-12 is the correct date.  No, it is not the traditional third
weekend 
in October.  I decided to change the date.  Sometimes you just have to
be 
flexible.

Ack!  So that means the two bestest caving events of the year -- TCR and

the TAG Fall Cave-In -- will be head-to-head on the same weekend!



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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008

[Allan B. Cobb]

From: "Alex Sproul"

Ack!  So that means the two bestest caving events of the year -- TCR and
the TAG Fall Cave-In -- will be head-to-head on the same weekend!


Yes, they are on the same weekend.  When it came down to making a decision, 
I did actually think about this as a conflict.  I hate making people choose. 
But sometimes, what can you do?  I guess the choice is, you can come to TCR 
for best, or console yourself with the rest!  ;-)


Allan 



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RE: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008

[Stefan Creaser]

John,

Well I hope you mean TCR! If you don't then please put your name forward
as a cook this year, we'd appreciate your input ;-)

Cheers,
Stefan
(Chief TCR mug^h^h^h cook)

-Original Message-
From: John Brooks [mailto:jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net] 

Well...we all know which event will have better BBQ!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:22 PM, "Alex Sproul"  wrote:

Allan said:
October 10-12 is the correct date.  No, it is not the traditional third
weekend 
in October.  I decided to change the date.  Sometimes you just have to
be 
flexible.

Ack!  So that means the two bestest caving events of the year -- TCR and

the TAG Fall Cave-In -- will be head-to-head on the same weekend!



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Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion 2008

[John Brooks]

Well...we all know which event will have better BBQ!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:22 PM, "Alex Sproul"  wrote:

Allan said:
October 10-12 is the correct date.  No, it is not the traditional third weekend 
in October.  I decided to change the date.  Sometimes you just have to be 
flexible.

Ack!  So that means the two bestest caving events of the year -- TCR and 
the TAG Fall Cave-In -- will be head-to-head on the same weekend!

Que lastima!

While it's true that Austin and Atlanta are about 1,000 miles apart, there is 
clearly some cross-pollination between the two events.  I see Sherry and 
Emily Graham were at TCR last year, and though I missed the 2007 TAG, 
there are always a few Tejanos there.

The conflict means I'll have to make a choice, and the energy crisis being as 
it is, I'll have to pragmatically choose the closer event.  The same will be 
true 
for Becky Jones, a damn shame!

Do I correctly assume that Liebman is still showing up?  If he is, it's the 
only 
place.  He didn't even show at OTR last year, which he can spit at from his 
back porch.

Hopefully, Ediger can hop a ride down on a freight train.

Y'all have fun now, y''hear?

Alex



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