date:20180124

Hello,

is it possible to send an action message like tm-edit-tiddler with a button 
from within a Modal, closing the modal dialogue at the same time?

Simon

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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release

SImon,

Sorry, It all made sense when I posted the above comment, but now I am not 
so sure.

Perhaps I was suggesting a list of toggles for global settings or features, 
all on one page, rather than needing to go looking for them. 

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 3:51:21 PM UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> @TonyM,
>  
>
>> I will just add here,
>>
>> If you have a large list that you step through to select something, it is 
>> helpful for browsing and select one at a time=, especially at setup 
>> To accommodate those who may swish to toggle between one or more in the 
>> list, simply provide the ability to *make a simple button* to select a 
>> named (or numbered item) from the list.
>> Now any user can build the tools to use it however they wish rather than 
>> dictate. Its like providing API's
>>
>> You mean selecting widths directly?
>
> Simon 
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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release

@TonyM,
 

> I will just add here,
>
> If you have a large list that you step through to select something, it is 
> helpful for browsing and select one at a time=, especially at setup 
> To accommodate those who may swish to toggle between one or more in the 
> list, simply provide the ability to *make a simple button* to select a 
> named (or numbered item) from the list.
> Now any user can build the tools to use it however they wish rather than 
> dictate. Its like providing API's
>
> You mean selecting widths directly?

Simon 

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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release


>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> I'd very much like to hear some opinions about press for sidebar, tap to 
>> edit, close save and cancel, you were referring to that if I got you right, 
>> but is it the visual aspect that concerns you or the functional?
>
>
> To clarify, *what I really like about it*, is you integrate into the 
> immediate presentation the means to alter the presentation without leaving 
> the presentation. That is a long sentence, but its accurate. And I think 
> largely novel in TW. So its not just about grids, which we had two recent 
> good variants on already, its *interactive flex*. In other words the 
> FUNCTIONS ARE VISUALLY activated. The toggle approach is spot-on. 
>
> Its exciting. It makes me want to make stuff.
>
> And I can see a new user being able to cope with making stuff without 
> having to learn masses first.
>
> Something like that.
>
> FWIW, in implementation of this I'd likely use Danielo's "Double Tap/Click 
> to Edit."
>

I know about that plugin - you need to know that press / tap / drag / ... 
recognition is right there inside muuri - you just write some lines of code 
and you have it. this comes natural to use somehow.

Look at the press/hold to open the sidebar. That's a very pleasant way to 
open and close it. Try it on a mobile device, too

For the tapping / clicking I know that it's to discuss. 

>
> Josiah
>
>
thanks for your input 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Compare macro values

Mark, et al..

Unfortunately this does not seem to be working for me, even when I 
eliminate system tiddlers in the variables
for example;

\define showmenu(menutype:"dropdown")
<$vars
menutypeset="$menutype$" 
dropdowntype="dropdown"

inlinetype="inline"

> <$list 
filter="[titleprefixsufix]" 
variable=null> Do this when menutypeset = dropdown
\end




On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 3:19:06 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Try the following, keeping in mind the variable/macro equivalency.
>
> The first 2 give identical results, but one looks for equality and other 
> for non-equality.
>
> -- Mark
>
> 
>
> <$vars var1="stuff" var2="stuff2">
>
> <$list filter="[titleprefixsuffix]" emptyMessage="NOT 
> EQUAL">
> EQUAL
> 
>
> <$list filter="[title] [title] 
> -[titleprefixsuffix] +[limit[1]]" emptyMessage="EQUAL">
> NOT EQUAL
> 
>
> <$list filter="[title[I AM ALWAYS TRUE]]">
> TRUE
> 
>
> 
>
> On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 6:50:38 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am looking for the correct filter syntax to compare the macro values 
>> <> and <>
>>
>> If both are the same or if they are not
>>
>> eg;
>>
>> <$list filter="filter syntax" variable=name>
>>  <> and <> are the same
>> 
>>
>> <$list filter="filter syntax2" variable=name>
>>  <> and <> are not the same
>> 
>>
>> Further I would like a filter that is always true that reads well
>>
>> <$list filter="filter syntax3" variable=name>
>> Allways true with Filter Syntax3
>> 
>>
>> In this case different Filter Syntax's will be used, for different 
>> results.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

Hi Mal,

I imported my pictures at first too. And they are really small (in MB).

But I when the wiki is finished I will have maybe 500 pictures or more or 
less- I don't know yet. Because I cannot say how much I will have & how 
much the size increases with that, I prefer going on the safe side and load 
them up with a service, for getting an URL.

I don't like that- really not.

But it's the safe side for the size.

Surya

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[tw] Re: How to mark overdue ToDos in ToDoNow / Outlook addon?

Hi Thomas,

the "late" marker is now shown :-)

Thanks a lot!!

Surya

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[tw] Re: Where to edit format of deadline-date in view in ToDoNow?

Hello Thomas,

everything is great now :-)

I am moving all my tasks now to ToDoNow.

I tested a big TW5-wiki (15MB) on my tablet- where I will work with my 
ToDo-Lists when the lists are finished.
And I had almost no problem with it.
So I am not anymore worried so much about the size.

And, as I said, I managed it now to show me a ToDo-List which is almost 
perfectly designed for me :-)

Maybe I will come back one time to you for asking some design wishes 
(making some things a bit smaller, changing the colour of some icons and 
placing the title after the deadline, datepicker, editor & details).
But for now it is not so important. Now I have to edit all my tasks and 
build new ones and so on.


Also the "late" marker is now shown :-)

I give you ten kisses for answering :-)
Surya

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[tw] Re: At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

2018-01-24 Thread Mal

Surya,

I look after some medical tiddlywikis with quite a few embedded images and 
I get reports of poor performance if they get over about 35-40 MB, so I 
then shrink the images and performance improves.

This wiki is synchronized using Dropbox across various devices including an 
iPad and an iPhone.  However, any editing is done on a desktop or laptop.

Regards,

Mal



On Thursday, 25 January 2018 07:21:32 UTC+10, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Another procedure (may not work on newer machines):
>>
>> 1. Hold down Home button until task list appeared
>>
>
>  That didn't work.
>
> - *3. Go to Applications*
>> - *4. Tap on “Running Application”*
>
> I think you meant "Active" (the other possibilities in "Apps" are called 
> in my phone "Downloaded", "On SD-Card", "All" and "Deactivated").
>
> In "Active" I got:
> System: 651 MB RAM
> Apps: 495 MB RAM
> Free: 591 MB RAM
>
> Surya
>

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[tw] Re: How to setup "Line height" in Edit area?

2018-01-24 Thread Birthe C

Create a stylesheet and set font-size and line-height for 
.tc-edit-texteditor

Birthe

Den torsdag den 25. januar 2018 kl. 03.09.43 UTC+1 skrev ericl:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> When I setup the font size in Firefox, the "Line height" is still fixed 
> in the Edit area of TiddlyWiki!
> How can I change the "Line height" in Edit area?
>
>
> Best regards
>
>

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[tw] (info) Eve winding down

2018-01-24 Thread Ste Wilson

The eve programming project which sparked some interest here a while ago is 
winding down. Here's the demo https://btheado.github.io/tweve

Full post here on the wind down: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!topic/eve-talk/YFguOGkNrBo

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[tw] Re: Title prefix matching a macro to apply tag

2018-01-24 Thread magasine

Maybe something like the Startup Actions plugin (
http://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/StartupActions/), which when displaying 
the modal tiddler, did it after marking it with a tag corresponding to the 
macro return << now YYY0MM0DD >>

Em quinta-feira, 25 de janeiro de 2018 00:12:40 UTC-2, TonyM escreveu:
>
> I am still trying to understand what you need.
>
> Why tag them if a list using prefix can always generate the same list?.
>
> A single button with a list inside it can be used with actions to set a 
> tag on every tiddler appearing in the list. 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw] Title prefix matching a macro to apply tag

I am still trying to understand what you need.

Why tag them if a list using prefix can always generate the same list?.

A single button with a list inside it can be used with actions to set a tag on 
every tiddler appearing in the list. 

Regards
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[tw] How to setup "Line height" in Edit area?

2018-01-24 Thread ericl

Hello everyone,

When I setup the font size in Firefox, the "Line height" is still fixed in 
the Edit area of TiddlyWiki!
How can I change the "Line height" in Edit area?


Best regards

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[tw] How to mark overdue ToDos in ToDoNow / Outlook addon?

2018-01-24 Thread Thomas Elmiger

I hope you installed moments.js plugin too? 
https://tid.li/tw5/tdn.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fkixam%2Fmoment

All the best 
Thomas 

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[tw] How to mark overdue ToDos in ToDoNow / Outlook addon?

2018-01-24 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Hi Surya

Me again ;–) 

When I use your first example in a new tiddler and set my "Buy christmas 
presents" task to yesterday then I get a red "late" mark over the stop watch. 
Is that not what you want? 

Late greetings 
Thomas

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[tw] Where to edit format of deadline-date in view in ToDoNow?

2018-01-24 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Hi Surya


Translations, date and time format

1. Clone one of the following language tiddlers, set a new ending for the 
title, e.g. …/de-foo (do not change the rest of the title):

[...]
$:/plugins/telmiger/lib/languages/de-DE

So name your version e.g.
$:/plugins/telmiger/lib/languages/de-Surya

In this tiddler change this line: 

date-deadline-tmpl: 0DD.0MM.

to the format you want. 

Then choose your own «language» on the configuration tab of the plugin: de-Surya

Please ask again if this is not clear enough!

Beste Grüsse 
Thomas

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Re: [tw] Re: wikify field value when displaying using view widget

Jeremy,

A suggestion, 

Such advice should be in the ViewWidget tiddler on tiddlywiki.com as I have 
visited this many times in my learning process to discover it useless for 
what I wanted to do, alternatively the formats could be extended to support 
those commonly desired by users.

Regards
Tony  

On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 4:51:53 AM UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi PassingBy
>
> That works! Thank you Mark. But just for understanding, why does the view 
> widget with "plainwikified" format not work?  
>
>
> The common use cases for the view widget are fairly specialised: 
> displaying fields in plain text, and formatting dates. The various encoding 
> and wikified formats are primarily for use in TiddlyWiki’s internal 
> templates.
>
> The “plainwikified” format actually wikifies the argument and then 
> extracts the plain text of the result. So, plainwikified “jeremy” is 
> “jeremy” but plainwikified “jeremy” is still just “jeremy”. That’s 
> almost certainly not what you wanted.
>
> If you want to wikify a field then you should use transclusion, either 
> with the double curly braces shortcut format or with the <$transclude> 
> widget.
>
> If you want to display a field as plain text then you can use the view 
> widget or the text widget. The following are equivalent:
>
> <$text text={{!!myfield}}/>
>
> <$view field="myfield"/>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
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>
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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release

I will just add here,

If you have a large list that you step through to select something, it is 
helpful for browsing and select one at a time=, especially at setup 
To accommodate those who may swish to toggle between one or more in the 
list, simply provide the ability to *make a simple button* to select a 
named (or numbered item) from the list.
Now any user can build the tools to use it however they wish rather than 
dictate. Its like providing API's

This matches the TiddlyWiki Philosophy elsewhere.

Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Create a tiddler with pre defined fields

Passingby,

I agree with Marks approach but think it could be enhanced by using a 
fields existence to define a tiddler as a contact eg full-name

Then in a tiddler tagged to appear in the view template, if the full-name 
field exists has[full-name] then it is a contact and you can provide tools 
for managing contacts.

Once the first field is created one or more create fields can be 
displayed/creation buttons provided etc... (if they do not exist)

If you design it correctly you can click on any tiddler link and make it a 
contact, or use <> to state it explicitly, or have the 
details for contacts display automatically when opening such tiddlers. 

This advice is only general in nature


Regards
Tony

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[tw] Re: Create a tiddler with pre defined fields



On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 4:06:23 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think my way would be to make a macro and use it instead of links. 
> Something like
>
> <>
>
> If "jane" exists, it displays a link. If "jane" doesn't exist, it displays 
> a button labeled "jane". Click on the button to create the new "jane" 
> tiddler. I haven't thought through the details, but I'm pretty sure all 
> this is possible. I'm sure a macro that displays both a link and a button 
> is possible, if nothing else.
>
> Some others may have creative suggestions as well.
>
> Good luck,
>
> -- Mark
>

That is a good idea Mark. Ill try it out. Thanks again!  

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[tw] Re: Create a tiddler with pre defined fields

I think my way would be to make a macro and use it instead of links. 
Something like

<>

If "jane" exists, it displays a link. If "jane" doesn't exist, it displays 
a button labeled "jane". Click on the button to create the new "jane" 
tiddler. I haven't thought through the details, but I'm pretty sure all 
this is possible. I'm sure a macro that displays both a link and a button 
is possible, if nothing else.

Some others may have creative suggestions as well.

Good luck,

-- Mark

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-8, passingby wrote:
>
> So in my TW I have tiddler in which I mention people's names, either in 
> content or in a field. There are separate tiddlers containing information 
> about these people. For example a tiddler's name john would have his 
> contact information, some background information and how I know him 
> personally etc. Usually I create a contact tiddler with all the various 
> fields pre-defined and I just fill in some of them. For example, address, 
> reference, email, phone etc. But sometimes while writing down an event I 
> would mention some new names like [[jane]]. Now what I want is that when I 
> click on [[jane]] from an event tiddler it should create a new contact 
> tiddler with pre defined blank fields. What would be the best way to do it?
>
> I thought on this line: 
> Have an edit tiddler template which checks if a tiddler is tagged as 
> contact. If it is then shows up a button which contains actions which 
> create the relevant fields if not already existing. So then when I click on 
> undefined tiddler [[jane]]. Missing tiddler jane comes up. Go into edit 
> mode to create the tiddler. Tag it as 'contact'. As soon as i add the tag 
> contact the button shows up which I click to add all the relevant fields in 
> one go.
>
> I have this template tiddler:
>
> \define my-actions()
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="address"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="phone"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="email"/>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="reference"/>
>
>
> \end
>
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tag[contact]]">
>
>
> <$button actions=<>>
> Click to add contact fields
> 
> 
>
>
> So this system works, but can this be made better? Can I somehow do away 
> with the button and trigger the "tm-add-field" message automatically as 
> soon as the tiddler is tagged contact? or even better create a new contact 
> tiddler with pre defined fields right from the tiddler link in the other 
> tiddler mentioning the person's name?
>
>
>

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[tw] Create a tiddler with pre defined fields

So in my TW I have tiddler in which I mention people's names, either in 
content or in a field. There are separate tiddlers containing information 
about these people. For example a tiddler's name john would have his 
contact information, some background information and how I know him 
personally etc. Usually I create a contact tiddler with all the various 
fields pre-defined and I just fill in some of them. For example, address, 
reference, email, phone etc. But sometimes while writing down an event I 
would mention some new names like [[jane]]. Now what I want is that when I 
click on [[jane]] from an event tiddler it should create a new contact 
tiddler with pre defined blank fields. What would be the best way to do it?

I thought on this line: 
Have an edit tiddler template which checks if a tiddler is tagged as 
contact. If it is then shows up a button which contains actions which 
create the relevant fields if not already existing. So then when I click on 
undefined tiddler [[jane]]. Missing tiddler jane comes up. Go into edit 
mode to create the tiddler. Tag it as 'contact'. As soon as i add the tag 
contact the button shows up which I click to add all the relevant fields in 
one go.

I have this template tiddler:

\define my-actions()
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="address"/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="phone"/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="email"/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-field" $param="reference"/>


\end


<$list filter="[is[current]tag[contact]]">


<$button actions=<>>
Click to add contact fields




So this system works, but can this be made better? Can I somehow do away 
with the button and trigger the "tm-add-field" message automatically as 
soon as the tiddler is tagged contact? or even better create a new contact 
tiddler with pre defined fields right from the tiddler link in the other 
tiddler mentioning the person's name?


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Re: [tw] How to load a JS library module which requires another plugin library module with non-relative title?

2018-01-24 Thread TheDiveO

Ah, I see. So I probably just need to set up a context object and give it a 
require() that fixes the one specific absolute module name and thain chains 
to the $tw.modules.execute(). And then I run the video.js plugin sources 
through $tw.utils.evalSandboxed(). If that's more or less all then a 
generalization would be overkill, as there's really not much to generalize 
then.

Thank you very much for pointing me to the interesting places and 
clarifying things, so I can now try some code. Before, I wasn't sure that I 
could change require() functionality at all, or if so, how.

Best regards,
TheDiveO

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[tw] Re: At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

Hi Mark,

Another procedure (may not work on newer machines):
>
> 1. Hold down Home button until task list appeared
>

 That didn't work.

- *3. Go to Applications*
> - *4. Tap on “Running Application”*

I think you meant "Active" (the other possibilities in "Apps" are called in 
my phone "Downloaded", "On SD-Card", "All" and "Deactivated").

In "Active" I got:
System: 651 MB RAM
Apps: 495 MB RAM
Free: 591 MB RAM

Surya

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[tw] Re: At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

Edited from the net:

   1. 
*Pull down your control screen *
   2. *Tap on “Settings”*
   3. *Go to Applications*
   4. *Tap on “Running Application”*
   5. *At the bottom (or sometimes top) it will show amount used and amount 
   remaining. Add together for approx total*

Another procedure (may not work on newer machines):

1. Hold down Home button until task list appeared

2. In lower right hand corner there is a "pie-shaped" icon

3. Click on icon to see resource use

4. Click on "Ram" to see ram usage including total Ram available

And finally ...

Check your sales receipt ;-)

I looked it up.Yours should have 2.2 G RAM (40% more than mine and more 
than my netbook).

-- Mark

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> Hi Mark,
>
> How much RAM ?
>>
>
> Where can I find out that? 
>

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[tw] Re: How to load a JS library module which requires another plugin library module with non-relative title?

2018-01-24 Thread BJ

maybe you could use the 'prefix' field in the tiddlywiki.files and redefine 
'require' there..

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 9:08:59 PM UTC+1, TheDiveO wrote:
>
> My goal is to support so-called Video.js player plugins in my TwTube 
> plugin. Placing the video.js player itself into a TiddlyWiki library module 
> such as $:/plugin/TheDiveO/twtube/video.js works as expected. 
>
> Now, video.js plugins, say foo.js, attach themselves to the video.js 
> player by means of getting the referece to it via require("video.js"). And 
> that is causing me problems: because the required module name is not 
> relative, this would reference a (user) tiddler video.js. However, it 
> should be the plugin tiddler instead, somewhere inside $:/plugins/...
>
> Of course, I can edit the plugin source to fix the require()...
>
> But: is there another way ot hack to get the require working as needed? 
> One bad idea that occured to me is simply adding an alias to 
> $tw.modules.titles... Any better ideas?
>
> Best regards,
> TheDiveO
>

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Re: [tw] How to load a JS library module which requires another plugin library module with non-relative title?

Hi TheDiveO

> thank you very much for your answer. Being able to have a utility function 
> that allows to load a JS module with a caller-supplied require() context or 
> similar looks appealing. This would keep "aliasing" or dedicated module name 
> resolution local to such modules that need it. And it would be cleaner than 
> mucking around with $tw.modules.

Most of the logic is already encapsulated in $tw.utils.evalSandboxed(). Let’s 
see whether the technique works for you before we try to generalise it further.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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Re: [tw] How to load a JS library module which requires another plugin library module with non-relative title?

2018-01-24 Thread TheDiveO

Hi Jeremy,

thank you very much for your answer. Being able to have a utility function 
that allows to load a JS module with a caller-supplied require() context or 
similar looks appealing. This would keep "aliasing" or dedicated module 
name resolution local to such modules that need it. And it would be cleaner 
than mucking around with $tw.modules.

Best regards,
TheDiveO

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[tw] Re: At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

Hi Mark,

How much RAM ?
>

Where can I find out that? 

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Re: [tw] How to load a JS library module which requires another plugin library module with non-relative title?

Hi TheDiveO

> But: is there another way ot hack to get the require working as needed? One 
> bad idea that occured to me is simply adding an alias to 
> $tw.modules.titles... Any better ideas?

The core Jasmine plugin has the same problem and solves it with a fairly hefty 
hack: it executes the plugin modules with a special context that includes a 
custom override of the require() function:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/jasmine/jasmine-plugin.js
 


Perhaps you can do something similar?

We could also consider pulling the guts of the technique into a generic 
$tw.utils function.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[tw] How to load a JS library module which requires another plugin library module with non-relative title?

2018-01-24 Thread TheDiveO

My goal is to support so-called Video.js player plugins in my TwTube 
plugin. Placing the video.js player itself into a TiddlyWiki library module 
such as $:/plugin/TheDiveO/twtube/video.js works as expected. 

Now, video.js plugins, say foo.js, attach themselves to the video.js player 
by means of getting the referece to it via require("video.js"). And that is 
causing me problems: because the required module name is not relative, this 
would reference a (user) tiddler video.js. However, it should be the plugin 
tiddler instead, somewhere inside $:/plugins/...

Of course, I can edit the plugin source to fix the require()...

But: is there another way ot hack to get the require working as needed? One 
bad idea that occured to me is simply adding an alias to 
$tw.modules.titles... Any better ideas?

Best regards,
TheDiveO

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[tw] Re: At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

How much RAM ?

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On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 11:34:12 AM UTC-8, Surya wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> my results:
>
> I downloaded this 4,5MB tiddlywiki.com and tested it on my smartphone. I 
> tested
>
>- how smooth & fast does it scroll
>- how fast does it open listed tiddlers from sidebar
>- tiping in search field: how good is the tiping & how fast are search 
>results displayed
>- and making a new tiddler: how good is the tiping in there
>
> Everything worked fine :-)
>
> Then I imported some big plugins- it increased up to 5,9MB. Same testing 
> >>fine.
> Then I imported 2 pictures from me- it increased up to 15,1MB. Same 
> testing >>fine, except, that the tiping is a little little bit not so 
> smooth. But no problem at all.
>
>
> Tested on my smartphone Sony Xperia Z1 compact, Android 5.1.1- ohhh, not 
> like I said about Android 6 ;-)
>
> Surya
>

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[tw] Re: At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

Hi,

my results:

I downloaded this 4,5MB tiddlywiki.com and tested it on my smartphone. I 
tested

   - how smooth & fast does it scroll
   - how fast does it open listed tiddlers from sidebar
   - tiping in search field: how good is the tiping & how fast are search 
   results displayed
   - and making a new tiddler: how good is the tiping in there

Everything worked fine :-)

Then I imported some big plugins- it increased up to 5,9MB. Same testing 
>>fine.
Then I imported 2 pictures from me- it increased up to 15,1MB. Same testing 
>>fine, except, that the tiping is a little little bit not so smooth. But 
no problem at all.


Tested on my smartphone Sony Xperia Z1 compact, Android 5.1.1- ohhh, not 
like I said about Android 6 ;-)

Surya

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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release

>
> BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> I'd very much like to hear some opinions about press for sidebar, tap to 
> edit, close save and cancel, you were referring to that if I got you right, 
> but is it the visual aspect that concerns you or the functional?

To clarify, *what I really like about it*, is you integrate into the 
immediate presentation the means to alter the presentation without leaving 
the presentation. That is a long sentence, but its accurate. And I think 
largely novel in TW. So its not just about grids, which we had two recent 
good variants on already, its *interactive flex*. In other words the 
FUNCTIONS ARE VISUALLY activated. The toggle approach is spot-on. 

Its exciting. It makes me want to make stuff.

And I can see a new user being able to cope with making stuff without 
having to learn masses first.

Something like that.

FWIW, in implementation of this I'd likely use Danielo's "Double Tap/Click 
to Edit."

Josiah

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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release

Caro BTC,

There is no concrete example of (2) in TT, but it would be interesting if 
there were. My point was that there are cases where more than six toggle 
states work. Ones where the user can cycle though many options--ONCE in a 
while--when they need  persistent change. Example usage for different CSS 
styling sets is one.

On (3)  I think users will find its confusing. FWIW I was one of the 
pushers that led to these multiple "save" methods. FWIW I was only really 
interested in adding SAVE & CLOSE (i.e. "save & remove from stream" on 
saving rather than the default "finish edit, leave in stream"). Thomas then 
came up with a bunch of variants. I always found TW stable so that save and 
close was a plenty already to add. I can't see the attraction of the other 
variants. As far as Toggle states on that go I don't (a) see the point (b) 
think it does not works visually--because the different steps do different 
things.

The mess of my stray draft footnote was a sitting duck. No comment. :-)

Allora
Buona notte, J.

P.S. That footnote undid me.

On Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:36:31 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi @TiddlyTweeter
>  
>
>> This is a long way round of saying ...
>>
>> 1 - keep the toggle states of DAILY use low (6 or less)
>>
>> 2 - one off changes like global CSS  you do in a blue moon can be large 
>> (15 or more)
>>
>
>  Can you give me a concrete example in TiddlyTouch you're referring to?
>
>>
>> 3 - Toggles that don't just change appearance but change function (like 
>> variations on saving), IMO should be avoided because the visual feedback is 
>> confusing.
>>
>
> Do you mean the colors with visual feedback or the general 
> changing/disappearing? 
>
>>
>> My two cents
>> Josiah
>>
>> Regarding NUMBERS of toggle states ... It differs between purposes.  For 
>> instance, if yu hcce 1
>>
>> This one got eaten up by a one-armed bandit
>
>
> I'd very much like to hear some opinions about press for sidebar, tap to 
> edit, close save and cancel, you were referring to that if I got you right, 
> but is it the visual aspect that concerns you or the functional?
>
> Thanks for your opinions,
>
> best wishes,
> Simon 
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Re: [tw] Re: wikify field value when displaying using view widget

Thank you for the explanation Jeremy.

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Re: [tw] Re: wikify field value when displaying using view widget

Hi PassingBy

> That works! Thank you Mark. But just for understanding, why does the view 
> widget with "plainwikified" format not work?  

The common use cases for the view widget are fairly specialised: displaying 
fields in plain text, and formatting dates. The various encoding and wikified 
formats are primarily for use in TiddlyWiki’s internal templates.

The “plainwikified” format actually wikifies the argument and then extracts the 
plain text of the result. So, plainwikified “jeremy” is “jeremy” but 
plainwikified “jeremy” is still just “jeremy”. That’s almost certainly 
not what you wanted.

If you want to wikify a field then you should use transclusion, either with the 
double curly braces shortcut format or with the <$transclude> widget.

If you want to display a field as plain text then you can use the view widget 
or the text widget. The following are equivalent:

<$text text={{!!myfield}}/>

<$view field="myfield"/>

Best wishes

Jeremy.




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Re: [tw] Getting a field value from a transcluded field name

Hi Steve

> How do I reference a field that is defined through transclusion? In the code 
> below, I'm trying to get the value of the field <> into a variable 
> <>
> 
> <$list filter="[tag!nsort]" >
> <$set name="slidenumber" filter="[all[current]field]">
> ...
> doesn't work.

Try

<$list filter="[tag!nsort]">
<$set name="slidenumber" tiddler=<> field="slidetag">
...

The trick is a new feature of the set widget (since 5.1.14) that allows a 
variable to be set directly from a tiddler field (or index).

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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> Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks, //steve.
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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release

Hi @TiddlyTweeter
 

> This is a long way round of saying ...
>
> 1 - keep the toggle states of DAILY use low (6 or less)
>
> 2 - one off changes like global CSS  you do in a blue moon can be large 
> (15 or more)
>

 Can you give me a concrete example in TiddlyTouch you're referring to?

>
> 3 - Toggles that don't just change appearance but change function (like 
> variations on saving), IMO should be avoided because the visual feedback is 
> confusing.
>

Do you mean the colors with visual feedback or the general 
changing/disappearing? 

>
> My two cents
> Josiah
>
> Regarding NUMBERS of toggle states ... It differs between purposes.  For 
> instance, if yu hcce 1
>
> This one got eaten up by a one-armed bandit


I'd very much like to hear some opinions about press for sidebar, tap to 
edit, close save and cancel, you were referring to that if I got you right, 
but is it the visual aspect that concerns you or the functional?

Thanks for your opinions,

best wishes,
Simon 

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[tw] Getting a field value from a transcluded field name

2018-01-24 Thread Steven Schneider

Hi folks,

I've written a macro that identifies and presents tiddlers as slides in a 
slideshow with this: 

<>

My macro sets variable slidetag as follows:
<$set name=slidetag value="""$slidetag$""">


Tiddlers to be included in the slideshow are tagged with the name of the 
show (example: "welcome-to-class") and have a field of the same name 
(example: welcome-to-class) with value = 1 (or 2, etc.)

I want to dynamically set the bgcolor of the tiddlers based on slidenumber.

How do I reference a field that is defined through transclusion? In the 
code below, I'm trying to get the value of the field <> into a 
variable <>

<$list filter="[tag!nsort]" >
<$set name="slidenumber" filter="[all[current]field]">
...
doesn't work.

Suggestions?

Thanks, //steve.


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[tw] Re: wikify field value when displaying using view widget



On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 10:08:37 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think the answer is that you want to transclude, not view, the field, 
> like:
>
> <$transclude field="people"/>
>
> or
>
> {{!!people}}
>
> Good luck,
> -- Mark
>

That works! Thank you Mark. But just for understanding, why does the view 
widget with "plainwikified" format not work?  

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[tw] Re: wikify field value when displaying using view widget

I think the answer is that you want to transclude, not view, the field, 
like:

<$transclude field="people"/>

or

{{!!people}}

Good luck,
-- Mark

On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 8:30:23 AM UTC-8, passingby wrote:
>
> Friends,
>
> I have a template for displaying tiddler's fields in its view mode. The 
> field is named 'people'. and its value contains names of people like lets 
> say john. The template displays the value of the field using this:
>
> <$view field="people" format="plainwikified" mode="block"/>
>
>
>
> What I want is to display the field value as a tiddler link, so that I can 
> click on it to go to the tiddler with that person's name. When entering the 
> field value I enter the value in double square brackets like this: 
> [[john]]. I expect that now when the field value is displayed it should be 
> displayed as a link but it does not.
>
> When I the above mentioned format the display is : 
>
> john (with square brackets stripped away and no tiddler link)
>
> When I choose 
> <$view field="people" format="htmlwikified" mode="block"/> 
>
> it shows up as : 
>
>  >Taminder Singh
>
> which proves that tiddlywiki is definitely seeing the field value as a 
> missing tiddler link.
>
> With 
> <$view field="people" format="htmlencodedplainwikified" mode="block"/>
>
> is displayes as:
>
> john (again, square brackets stripped but no tiddler link) 
>
> So whats the way to display a text as wikified as tiddler link? I expected 
> plainwikified to work.
>

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[tw] Re: [TiddlyTouch] 0.1.0 beta Release

Ciao BuringTreeC

I'm giving opinions ... points of contrast. Please reject me as needed.

The general TOGGLE approach in TiddlyTouch is BRILLIANT. Much of which in 
another approach you'd need to do leaving the interface and go config 
Tiddler to do. 

IMO, configuring an interface WITHIN  the basic interface you are 
thumbs-up. It easy for users to learn staying in the level presented and 
never having to see some weirdly different config console.

That said, there are issues with Toggles. IMO they work best when they do 
something at ONE  level  ... like change width. 

I am NOT convinced a toggle should be used for the various edit states. The 
reason is that results are NOT at the same level. In one option the thing 
will dissapear (save & close), in another you won't really know what its 
done (save and continue) and another (save but keep in stream) is bland.

To try make my point clearer ... for instance, if TiddlyTouch had 15+ 
different visual CSS layouts I  think it WOULD work to toggle through them 
one by one. Why? Because you only gonna DO IT ONCE on setup. Its not 
everyday and zillions of morphs would be fine.

The other settings that are USED DAILY I think you need a limit. I was very 
happy to see you added width setting toggle to each tiddler. I think you 
are right to set the max at 6 for that.

This is a long way round of saying ...

1 - keep the toggle states of DAILY use low (6 or less)

2 - one off changes like global CSS  you do in a blue moon can be large (15 
or more)

3 - Toggles that don't just change appearance but change function (like 
variations on saving), IMO should be avoided because the visual feedback is 
confusing.

My two cents
Josiah

Regarding NUMBERS of toggle states ... It differs between purposes.  For 
instance, if yu hcce 1

On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:32:51 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello @all,
>
> I'd like to ask a question 'cause now I'm working on this:
>
> I've added 3times click/tap on tiddler - open to edit or save when editing,
> 4 times click/tap on tiddler - close tiddler or cancel when editing
>
> now what about 5 and 6 times? ;)
>
>
> for example:
>
> 5times in editing: cancel and close, save and close
> 5times normal - good ideas?
>
> the question is if there's something that makes sense so that it's worth 
> adding actions with more clicks/taps
>
> any ideas?
>
> best wishes,
> BurningTreeC
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Please send me links to your themes, adaptations, plugins, macros, etc

Hi Dave,

that's fine, thanks for that!

Surya

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[tw] wikify field value when displaying using view widget

Friends,

I have a template for displaying tiddler's fields in its view mode. The
field is named 'people'. and its value contains names of people like lets
say john. The template displays the value of the field using this:

<$view field="people" format="plainwikified" mode="block"/>

What I want is to display the field value as a tiddler link, so that I can
click on it to go to the tiddler with that person's name. When entering the
field value I enter the value in double square brackets like this:
[[john]]. I expect that now when the field value is displayed it should be
displayed as a link but it does not.

When I the above mentioned format the display is :

john (with square brackets stripped away and no tiddler link)

When I choose
<$view field="people" format="htmlwikified" mode="block"/>

it shows up as :

Taminder
Singh

With
<$view field="people" format="htmlencodedplainwikified" mode="block"/>

is displayes as:

john (again, square brackets stripped but no tiddler link)

So whats the way to display a text as wikified as tiddler link? I expected
plainwikified to work.

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[tw] Re: Please send me links to your themes, adaptations, plugins, macros, etc

Ciao HC Haase & David Gifford

I wrote an "Issue" note on Github about this: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3102

I'm sure its been done before. But I think its about time we properly 
leveraged plugins. They give so much utility to TW its a disaster it can be 
so difficult to find them.

Best wishes
Josiah 

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Re: [tw] Re: Please send me links to your themes, adaptations, plugins, macros, etc

2018-01-24 Thread David Gifford

Hi Surya, my list of links is only for TW5. I wrote TiddlyVault (
http://tiddlyvault.tiddlyspot.com/) years ago to do roughly the same for TW
classic. I do not update the vault. Blessings.

David Gifford
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> Hi Dave,
>
> is everything listed there only for TW5 or for TW5 AND TWClassic?
>
> I had a look at it- I think, that site could be really helpful!!
> Thanks for that!!
>
> Surya
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