[tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Smith
Hi all.

Can you guys and gilrs who do methods and stats let me know what text
books you find best for these courses?

Also, is there a good resource for conducting a 1 credit lab that
would focus on SPSS techniques?

It would be great to get your recomendations.

--Mike

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[tips] citing surveymonkey

2010-04-14 Thread Annette Taylor
Have any of you had occasion to cite surveymonkey in APA style? Did you just 
call it that in the methods section without a citation?

If so, how did you do that?

Annette

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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Bernhardt
This is a tough question that we've been discussing for the past year or more.

It depends so much on your goals for your RM courses, what kind of preparation 
you expect your students to have, and where you are trying to take them. 

There are a lot of good books out there, but there is huge variety. Some books 
are 'just the concepts' with little in the way of analytical approaches. Others 
are extremely detailed and filled with relatively rare techniques. Others are 
integrated such that you can use the same book to teach both stats and methods.

Paul Bernhardt
Dept of Psychology
Frostburg State University
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On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

 Hi all.
 
 Can you guys and gilrs who do methods and stats let me know what text
 books you find best for these courses?
 
 Also, is there a good resource for conducting a 1 credit lab that
 would focus on SPSS techniques?
 
 It would be great to get your recomendations.
 
 --Mike
 
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Re: RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Deborah S Briihl
I will second the use of the Cozby text. We have used it here for a 
number of editions. It is easy to read with short chapters.


Annette Taylor wrote:


We do just methods and just stats and not the two together. I don't 
know if that makes a difference for you.

I use Chris Cozby's book and have ever since the first or second 
edition. I like it a lot. It's to the point and not confusing to lower 
division (freshmen/sophomores) and I'm comfortable with it after all 
these years.

Annette

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Subject: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

Hi all.

Can you guys and gilrs who do methods and stats let me know what text
books you find best for these courses?

Also, is there a good resource for conducting a 1 credit lab that
would focus on SPSS techniques?

It would be great to get your recomendations.

--Mike

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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Blaine Peden

http://www.spss.com/academic/

This SPSS website has resources for both students and instructors. There are 
tutorials (short videos) and links to data sets as well as user sites. It is 
a very nice collection.


Blaine Peden 




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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread roig-reardon


To teach SPSS in Stats lab, I have been using SPSS for Windows Step by Step 
and I've been generally satisfied with it. However, given all of the resources 
available on the web, I am thinking of not using a book for this portion of the 
course. 



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Re: [tips] citing surveymonkey

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Bernhardt
Citing Survey Monkey, I think, depends on its use. 

If you used Survey Monkey to collect the data, then I think you cite it 
generally based on its main page (at least, that's how I'm doing it in an 
article I'm currently writing which uses data collected using Survey Monkey). 
If you used it as a source for some description about how to use online methods 
to collect data or known problems or benefits of using online methods to 
collect data, then I think you cite the specific page that describes that 
information, just like citing any other web page that has citable information 
on it. 

In both cases a URL will be included and the company is the author so those 
techniques as described in the APA Manual should do the trick. 

Paul Bernhardt
Dept of Psychology
Frostburg State University
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On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:47 PM, DeVolder Carol L wrote:

  
 
 Hi Annette,
 I had a student cite Survey Monkey by including the URL and the date 
 retrieved (he cited some statistics they present on their website) and use 
 the URL in his reference list. I have no clue whether that’s correct, but it 
 seemed sufficient to me.
 Carol
  
  
  
 
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 Professor of Psychology 
 Chair, Department of Psychology 
 St. Ambrose University 
 Davenport, Iowa  52803
 phone: 563-333-6482 
 e-mail: devoldercar...@sau.edu
  
 From: Annette Taylor [mailto:tay...@sandiego.edu] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:52 AM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: [tips] citing surveymonkey
  
  
  
 Have any of you had occasion to cite surveymonkey in APA style? Did you just 
 call it that in the methods section without a citation?
  
 If so, how did you do that?
  
 Annette
  
 Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
 Professor, Psychological Sciences
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 San Diego, CA 92110
  
  
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RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Marc Carter

I know it's not possible in many places, but in a perfect world all psych 
undergrads would do a year-long, 6-hour-a-week Analysis and Design course.

To quote Winer (et al. -- the 3rd, 1991 posthumous edition with Brown  
Michels):

Science is concerned with understanding variability in nature, statistics is 
concerned with making decisions about nature in the presence of variability, 
and experimental design is concerned with reducing and controlling variability 
in ways which [sic] make statistical theory applicable to decisions made about 
nature.

That quote has always made a big impact on how I teach design and analysis.  
Even when I taught stand-alone stats classes, I always included method.  The 
one makes so much more sense in the context of the other.

m

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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Jim Clark
Hi

I've never understood the methods first rationale, and argued strongly about 20 
years ago for stats first, which we have had since.  My reasoning:

1. difficult to teach some methods concepts without stats (e.g., reliability), 
and it helps for others (e.g., computing Ms for two randomly divided samples to 
show that, on average, equality results from random assignment; smaller error 
term for within-s than between-s comparisons, ...)

2. having stats allows one to reinforce it during methods; analyzing results of 
some demo for randomization or counterbalancing; computing Ms, SDs, and split 
half rs for measurement; ...

Given methods first, seems to me that one must end up teaching stats or else 
not do a very deep intro to concepts.

Take care
Jim


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 Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com 14-Apr-10 1:18:28 PM 
Thank you for all of the advice :-)

H.

Well it would be a separate methods course and a separate stats course
with a 1 hour lab component.
The students would be majors but this would be a first stats and first
methods course (and I suppose maybe their only one for undergrad)

Methods would come first (if y'all thinks that makes a difference
about how to teach it).

I've never heard of the Cozby text. Which text is it?

--Mike

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RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Marc Carter

When I was in college, that's how they did it: methods first, then stats.

That's when I learned that you never collect data unless you know how you're 
going to analyze it.  It was the most frustrating experience of my undergrad 
career.  (Okay, maybe not, but it was close.)  Having to generate an experiment 
and not know anything about analysis?

If you have to separate them, doing stats first makes much more sense.  The 
statistical concepts map nicely onto design concepts; the reverse seems more 
difficult (to me -- and to Jim Clark!).

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 Instructive Material

 Hi

 I've never understood the methods first rationale, and argued
 strongly about 20 years ago for stats first, which we have
 had since.  My reasoning:

 1. difficult to teach some methods concepts without stats
 (e.g., reliability), and it helps for others (e.g., computing
 Ms for two randomly divided samples to show that, on average,
 equality results from random assignment; smaller error term
 for within-s than between-s comparisons, ...)

 2. having stats allows one to reinforce it during methods;
 analyzing results of some demo for randomization or
 counterbalancing; computing Ms, SDs, and split half rs for
 measurement; ...

 Given methods first, seems to me that one must end up
 teaching stats or else not do a very deep intro to concepts.

 Take care
 Jim


 James M. Clark
 Professor of Psychology
 204-786-9757
 204-774-4134 Fax
 j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca

  Michael Smith tipsl...@gmail.com 14-Apr-10 1:18:28 PM 
 Thank you for all of the advice :-)

 H.

 Well it would be a separate methods course and a separate
 stats course with a 1 hour lab component.
 The students would be majors but this would be a first stats
 and first methods course (and I suppose maybe their only one
 for undergrad)

 Methods would come first (if y'all thinks that makes a
 difference about how to teach it).

 I've never heard of the Cozby text. Which text is it?

 --Mike

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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Smith
Jim Clark: I've never understood the methods first rationale, and
argued strongly about 20 years ago for stats first, which we have had
since

Yes...I'm not sure how to go about it. It would seem that, ideally,
they would be taught together as I think Marc Carter was arguing.

Maybe I can completely redesign the separate courses to be something
like Analysis and Design I and II, and teach methods and stats
together as they co-occur.

For now I'm stuck with Methods then Stats.

If stats and methods are so intimately tied, one wonders why they were
separated into individual courses in the first placeperhaps,
methods was supposed to be the non-computational aspect, and stats
where one does the number crunching (maybe made more sense back in the
days of the slide rule?).

It's going to be difficult to not have a lecture-only approach. How
can I get some interaction and experiential understanding of the
methods without doing any stats?


Is the Cozby text Paul C. Cozby's Methods in Behavioral Research?

--Mike

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RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Frantz, Sue
When I had it in college, there were two 4-credit courses: Research Design and 
Analysis I and II.  Talk about a method and the stats that go with it.  Move on 
to the next method and the stats that go with it. And so on. I liked that set 
up a lot. 

Sue


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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Ken Steele


We had a similar sequence at ASU.  The first class focused on 
non-experimental/correlational research and the second class 
focused on experimental research designs and analysis. Both 
classes had a pre-req introductory stat class that was taught in 
the math department.  Success in Research Methods I was pre-req 
for entry into Research Methods II.


Unfortunately, this meant that there was a 3-course sequence that 
introduced semester-size delays in graduation if you didn't pass 
all courses in the first attempt.  We later had to combine the 
two research courses into a single 4-hour course, preceded by the 
stat course in the math department.


The two-semester stat+methods courses allowed students to get a 
solid connection between research questions and stat analyses 
along the lines suggested in the Winer quote that Marc provided.


Ken

Frantz, Sue wrote:

When I had it in college, there were two 4-credit courses:
Research Design and Analysis I and II.  Talk about a method
and the stats that go with it.  Move on to the next method and
the stats that go with it. And so on. I liked that set up a
lot.

Sue


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RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood


Marc Carter opined:
I know it's not possible in many places, but in a perfect world all psych 
undergrads would do a year-long, 6-hour-a-week Analysis and Design course.

To quote Winer (et al. -- the 3rd, 1991 posthumous edition with Brown  
Michels):

Science is concerned with understanding variability in nature, statistics is 
concerned with making decisions about nature in the presence of variability, 
and experimental design is concerned with reducing and controlling variability 
in ways which [sic] make statistical theory applicable to decisions made about 
nature.

That quote has always made a big impact on how I teach design and analysis.  
Even when I taught stand-alone stats classes, I always included method.  The 
one makes so much more sense in the context of the other.

I respond for two reasons. 
First, I agree with what Marc said about the ...in a perfect world all psych 
undergrads would do a year-long, 6-hour-a-week Analysis and Design course.  
But, alas, most of us do not live in such a world.  I have taught both in the 
separate course format, and would much rather have the option to do exactly 
what marc suggests, but find it nearly impossible.  I also lament that many 
really good psych majors do not become psych majors until they find toward the 
end of their second semester of their sophomore year, that the business program 
or the administration of justice program is not what they really want, and that 
complicates matters.

Second, I just have to say that I had the great pleasure of having Ben Winer as 
my stats professor as a graduate student using the first edition, and yes, he 
is as good a professor as I have ever had.  I also had Don Brown and he was 
also a remarkable professor.  There are times when I realize that I was 
fortunate enough to be able to study at Purdue when there were so many great 
researchers and teachers.  

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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood
A couple of folks have commented on using SPSS in their statistics courses, and 
that causes me to ask what is the rationale for using SPSS in undergraduate 
statistics when the vast majority of our students will never again use SPSS 
unless they are employed in a research situation at a university or an agency 
that does a great deal of number crunching as part of their research? 

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   To teach SPSS in Stats lab, I have been using SPSS
   for Windows Step by Step and I've been generally
   satisfied with it. However, given all of the
   resources available on the web, I am thinking of not
   using a book for this portion of the course.



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Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread David Hogberg
Bob: Your classmate, Phil Hostetler, PhD from Purdue ca. 1964, referred to
him as Ben sub J hat Winer
 and had nothing but good things to say about his teaching prowess.,   Just
fyi.d

PS: Hope all's going well.   d

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Dr. Bob Wildblood drb...@rcn.com wrote:



 Marc Carter opined:
 I know it's not possible in many places, but in a perfect world all psych
 undergrads would do a year-long, 6-hour-a-week Analysis and Design course.
 
 To quote Winer (et al. -- the 3rd, 1991 posthumous edition with Brown 
 Michels):
 
 Science is concerned with understanding variability in nature, statistics
 is concerned with making decisions about nature in the presence of
 variability, and experimental design is concerned with reducing and
 controlling variability in ways which [sic] make statistical theory
 applicable to decisions made about nature.
 
 That quote has always made a big impact on how I teach design and
 analysis.  Even when I taught stand-alone stats classes, I always included
 method.  The one makes so much more sense in the context of the other.

 I respond for two reasons.
 First, I agree with what Marc said about the ...in a perfect world all
 psych undergrads would do a year-long, 6-hour-a-week Analysis and Design
 course.  But, alas, most of us do not live in such a world.  I have taught
 both in the separate course format, and would much rather have the option to
 do exactly what marc suggests, but find it nearly impossible.  I also lament
 that many really good psych majors do not become psych majors until they
 find toward the end of their second semester of their sophomore year, that
 the business program or the administration of justice program is not what
 they really want, and that complicates matters.

 Second, I just have to say that I had the great pleasure of having Ben
 Winer as my stats professor as a graduate student using the first edition,
 and yes, he is as good a professor as I have ever had.  I also had Don Brown
 and he was also a remarkable professor.  There are times when I realize that
 I was fortunate enough to be able to study at Purdue when there were so many
 great researchers and teachers.

 .
 Robert W. Wildblood, PhD
 Riverside Counseling Center and
 Adjunct Psychology Faculty @
 Germanna Community College
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RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Jim Clark
Hi

Sorry ... no slight was intended ... I just referred to you as representing a 
group and did not mean to imply that it ONLY worked for you.

Take care
Jim

James M. Clark
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 Frantz, Sue sfra...@highline.edu 14-Apr-10 6:59:59 PM 
It obviously worked for Sue, so can be done.

Okay.  Ouch.  

Put another way, it's been 20 years, and this is still the course sequence my 
alma mater uses. (Having taught methods without stats, I found I was teaching 
some basic stats anyway.) For the interested, you're welcome to contact the 
faculty and see what evidence they have, if any, for its effectiveness: 
http://www.iup.edu/psychology/faculty/default.aspx. 



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[tips] Can you say chiropractic is bunk?

2010-04-14 Thread sblack
In Britain, I mean. As a result of a decision recently handed 
down, it's again ok to say it is. But you'd better have $300,000 
and at least two years to defend yourself against libel, just in 
case.

The judgement is seen as a victory for free speech and critical 
comment in science, sort-of. But hold on. The British 
Chiropractic Association may take it to the Supreme Court.

The offending statement by science journalist Simon Singh?
Dr Singh suggested there was a lack of evidence for the claims 
some chiropractors made on treating certain childhood 
conditions such as colic and asthma.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8598472.stm
Also
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100401/full/news.2010.167.ht
ml or http://tinyurl.com/yh8csot

Stephen


Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.  
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University   
e-mail:  sblack at ubishops.ca
2600 College St.
Sherbrooke QC  J1M 1Z7
Canada
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[tips] Be glad you have a job

2010-04-14 Thread michael sylvester
Tired of complaints from faculty,university officials addressing a faculty 
meeting made these remarks.

Michael omnicentric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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[tips] TIPSTER OF THE WEEK

2010-04-14 Thread michael sylvester
 TIPSTERS WHO WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE  TO FILE

THEIR INCOME TAX.

Michael omnicsntric Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida

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