Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
mlsstl;551514 Wrote: > I think it is a very legitmate question for a buyer to have some idea if > this device is going to work for him. There are a number of people who, > for various reasons, would love to have a Touch directly play their > music from a USB drive without the need for an external server. > IMHO, most people will be better of with a separate server on a computer, Sheevaplug, Vortexbox appliance or similar. For some people the built-in server in the Touch will work, but it might also not work depending on your size of library, file format, network, customization requirements, performance requirements other similar things. I wouldn't want to guarantee that the built-in server will work for anything else than occasional USB sticks from friends. Sure, it might work with a USB drive with your main library, but it depends too much on your requirements and the environment so there is no way to guarantee it. The situation might of course be different in the future if the server is further optimized. But at the moment I think the best recommendation if you want to be sure to get a trouble free reliable setup, is to use a separate server. Consider it to be a positive side effect if the built-in server works in your environment for your main library. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - first impressions and questions
liffy99;551454 Wrote: > I can only agree with the disappointing readability of the Touch screen. > I for one find the album art a gimmick and would far prefer to do away > with that for a larger font I can read from 4m plus away. And why do I > need to see three song titles at once ? My SB3 was perfectly adequate > showing one at a time and I just scrolled. > > > . . Have you tried the different now playing screens? Just touch anywhere in the middle of the now playing screen and it toggles between 5 different screens, one of which has no artwork and one which is the VU meters. Are you refering to the playlist screen? You are right that there is no way to get rid of the iconic artwork in that view. It would help a little. If you made it just one line and made the font big enough so it covered the full vertical distance you would only have say three characters on the screen at once. True it would be more visible but the scrolling would be horrendous! The font size VS how many characters you can display on the screen at once is an interesting exercise in trade offs. Anything in the user interface can be modified by changing the lua code which can be installed with the patch installer so its not cast in concrete. But most people have been focusing on the now playing screen. If you consider the playlist screen to be of high importance and can get enough people to agree that its a high priority I'm sure someone will eventually come up with some modifications, but its going to be tough to satify everybody since there will be many different "ideal" points on the font size VS number of characters scale. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78066 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Album art missing in album lists
I had this with TinySC on the Touch. It was fine with Squeezebox Server but not TinySC. It seemed to affect an handful of albums that I had downloaded from Itunes. The way I fixed it was to have a jpeg copy of the artwork named cover.jpg in each of the album folders. I use MP3Tag (it's free) which allows you to extract artwork from the tags. -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79203 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
Tony T;551378 Wrote: > Or at the very least move to python scripts. > (Is all of SBS and TinySC really in Perl?) The server (squeezeboxServer) is written in perl, the player part (SqueezePlay) uses lua as its user interface language. In both cases major parts are written in C linked into the particular interpreter. In the player the audio samples exist entirely in C code with the lua code handling the UI parts (what is in a menu, what a button looks like, what to do when a button is pushed). The actual drawing on the frame buffer is also done by C code. The server is written in perl to be transportable to many different plattforms. It uses many perl modules that have complex C implementations but they use "standard" ones that have already been ported to many different platforms. I have not spent too much time in the guts of the server so I can't give precise details, primarily because I hate perl. I too would prefer python. Lua was chosen for the player I presume because the basic implementation of the server is quite small and it interfaces well to underlying C code. There is a large amount of custom C code in the player. With the player they were aiming at specific hardware implementations so did not need to maintain portability to a large number of platforms so large amounts of custom C code was not as big a deal as it would be for the server. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB playback comlaints unfair
MadCityGeoff;551294 Wrote: > My Toshiba external USB drive hibernates after 15 minutes or so. I > wonder if that has anything to do with the playback problems I'm having > with the internal server--ALAC files getting cut off, FLAC files > rebuffering, etc. I looked for a sleep setting on the Touch and didn't > find anything. Is it possible to turn off the sleep function on my > Toshiba drive? There are a couple of issues, its a little difficult to figure out which is which. Lets tackle the sleep issue first. IF the drive just spins down but keeps its connection to the USB port alive there is no problem. You can test this by seeing of the server is still alive. Don't use it for awhile and see if its spun down. If yes don't try and play any music, go to the home menu and select USB, there should then be a selection for SqueezeboxServer. Select that and it will tell you if the server is running or not. If it is, drive sleeping is not the problem. If the server IS stopped, then you have to worry about the sleep setting of the drive. If the server is still running you have other issues. There is a known bug with ALAC files so that is probably whats happening with the them. The developers are working on it. I think I heard there is a fix, there are threads on this already, do a search ALAC and you should find it. Are the flac files 24/96 files? Some people are having problems with 24/96 flac files that use high compression settings. The high compression takes more horsepower and can cause problems. Are the flac files that are causing problems 24/96? Ifr yes this is probably the problem and can be fixed by re-encoding them to a low compression level. If the flac files are 16/44.1 files then it very unusual and we need to do some investigation to find out whats happening. Let us know as much information as you can about the files and library. Sample rate, bit depth, compression level. How big your library is. Do you have artwork with these files? Is it a separate file or embedded in the file. Have waited for the scan to complete before trying to play music? Both initial scan and "quick" scan whenever attaching the drive. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79199 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Decrease Minimal Brightness of Touch
There is a minimum brightness setting under: settings->brightness->minimal brightness This setting determines how dark the screen gets when its dark in the room. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79243 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a quick restart of Touch?
dbinder101;551558 Wrote: > Besides unplugging and re-plugging, is there a way to restart the Touch? > I don't see any button to do that. On the back, immediately above the power jack is a Reset button. Press it briefly to reboot the Touch. To do a factory reset hold it down for 15 seconds or more until you see a message about restoring factory settings. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Is there a quick restart of Touch?
Besides unplugging and re-plugging, is there a way to restart the Touch? I don't see any button to do that. -- dbinder101 dbinder101's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using as a standalone FLAC player from portable HDD...
Tony thanks again for getting back to me. On that list the 250gb Seagate FreeAgent Go is listed as working fine so I might just get one of those. I've had a look at that hdd you linked to but I'm actually in the UK and didn't find any online stores that stock them. That see-through enclosure looks so cool. As for which Flac compression I'm not sure as my brother does all my flac on his PC and will have to check with him. You can tell I'm a noob lol! I also have a collection of MP3s and a lot of Music from the iTunes store but I know those won't work as they're protected. Will post back with results. Thanks again for being so kind and helping me out. Cheers -- Dead Cell Dead Cell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Computer audiophile review
This subject was already discussed here : http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79141 -- krzys krzys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79259 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Computer audiophile review
This was an intelligent and appreciative review. Good to see someone getting the point who was not necessarily a SB fan coming into the review. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79259 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using as a standalone FLAC player from portable HDD...
Dead Cell;551535 Wrote: > Hey Tony thanks man for the quick reply, so the good news is that I can > use this player for playing FLAC using an USB drive :D > > My portable Go drive is USB powered so when I use it on my netbook, PC > it works just fine and is USB powered. > > If that drive don't work then it's not a big problem I can buy a 2.5 > inch enclosure and buy another internal 2.5 inch HDD and that way I can > use a power plug to power the HDD as the enclosures usually come with a > power plug. > > So you say FLAC plays nicely like this? > > Cheers Tony and I will also take a look at that list now. There have been reports that a large music collection can cause problems, but there is no consensus of what is 'Large' -- I have 8,000 Flac files. The only minor annoyance I find is that selecting a Random Mix of songs will pause and re-buffer for about 10 seconds, but only on the 1st song. No problems after that. Are you FLAC's compressed with the default '5' setting? Higher compression or 96 Khz 24 bit FLAC files been reported to cause problems. -- Tony T Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using as a standalone FLAC player from portable HDD...
Hey Tony thanks man for the quick reply, so the good news is that I can use this player for playing FLAC using an USB drive :D My portable Go drive is USB powered so when I use it on my netbook, PC it works just fine and is USB powered. If that drive don't work then it's not a big problem I can buy a 2.5 inch enclosure and buy another internal 2.5 inch HDD and that way I can use a power plug to power the HDD as the enclosures usually come with a power plug. So you say FLAC plays nicely like this? Cheers Tony and I will also take a look at that list now. -- Dead Cell Dead Cell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using as a standalone FLAC player from portable HDD...
Can the Seagate Go Portable be powered by an ac/dc adaptor or powered USB Hub? If not, there is a good chance that the Touch will not be able to power the USB. I have a 2.5" USB that is powered by an ac/dc adaptor and I'm able to play my FLAC's without any major problems. Take a look at: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_-_USB_Compatibility to see if your USB is listed -- Tony T Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Using as a standalone FLAC player from portable HDD...
Guys I'm new here and have done some reading regarding this but I'm still confused. Basically I have a Sony 2400ES AVR connected to a pair of floor standing Mordaunt Short 916i and an Eltax sub. I am in need of a device which I can connect to the AVR via Coaxial, Optical or HDMI and be able to play FLAC files from my Seagate Go Portable HDD. I understand that the Squeezebox Touch allows for SD cards but does it also allow for an USB 2.5 inch Seagate Go Portable hard drive to be connected via it's USB port and will it play the FLAC files from it? I'm not interested in streaming music from my PC but the Internet radio seems useful and I'm also guessing that I can just connect an Ethernet cable and have access to online radio without needing my PC? I'm desperately in need of a device which can play FLAC files without streaming from PC or having to have my TV on in order to be able to do so. Is the Squeezebox Touch what I need or is there a better alternative out there? I also plan on buying a decent separate stereop amplifier in the near future. If someone can help me out and point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful. Cheers and thanks in advance. -- Dead Cell Dead Cell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Computer audiophile review
I came across this: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Logitech-Squeezebox-Touch-Review -- Fahzz Living Room: Duet, Adcom GFA 545II, Adcom GFP 555II, Polk SDA 2B Dining Room: Paradigm Atom Monitor v.5 Bedroom: SB3, Pioneer VSX 5700S,Pinnacle PN 5+, M&K VX-7 Subwoofer Router: Linksys WRT54G Server: Acer Aspire Laptop, Windows XP Home Fahzz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79259 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - first impressions and questions
Get an ipod touch and iPeng. Better than the logitech controller. Nice little slideshow of what iPeng is. http://penguinlovesmusic.de/?show=slide&page_id=41 -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78066 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - first impressions and questions
liffy99;551454 Wrote: > Is there a remote device that can handle the display info in your hand > (like the Sonos) ? I've heard mention of Itouch / Ipeng etc but haven't > a clue how this might work. I use the Duet remote to control the Touch. It works fine. I actually sold my Duet receiver and kept the controller. (The Duet controller also works fine with my SB3 in a second system and the Radio in the kitchen.) I'm in the same boat with you and a lot of others. I consider the Touch's screen and touch capability pretty much superfluous. It is rare that I look at the Touch (it is behind my listening position) and rare that I control any aspect of the Touch's operation with its screen. That doesn't bother me too much as one gets "extras" one never uses with many products these days, especially technology ones. The only time I get annoyed is when the extras interfere with the fundamental operation. That's not been a problem for me as I use the Touch with an external server and it performs its player obligations extremely well. (I would not be so happy if I used a USB drive directly) -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78066 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
m1abrams;551222 Wrote: > ugh one thread please. The tipping point is when it starts failing for > you. Why do you need a generic range number? I think it is a very legitmate question for a buyer to have some idea if this device is going to work for him. There are a number of people who, for various reasons, would love to have a Touch directly play their music from a USB drive without the need for an external server. Nothing on the web site gives these people any indication that results may be iffy or require a special, ritualistic setup procedure to have any chance of succeeding. My two cents is that if Logitech is going to continue marketing the Touch as capable of playing directly from USB devices, they've got a long way to go in making it a consumer friendly device. In the meantime, it is only common decency that potential buyers get some indication of the current limitations. Given Logitech's history in the area of honest marketing, I'm not too optimistic they'll change anything. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and STAX earspeaker
Anyone with STAX headphones using Squeezebox Touch as your source? What is your experience so far? -- Häagen-Dazs Häagen-Dazs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79257 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Remotes for Touch
If you have a Palm WebOS smartphone (Pre or Pixi family), the new Squeeze Control app works exceedingly well, at least with Squeezebox Server 7.5 and files streaming from a NAS. Not sure if it will work with files served off a local USB drive. -- sleepysurf main system: touch > benchmark dac-1 > conrad-johnson ct-5 preamp and premier 350 amp > ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. member of 'the tampa bay listening society' (http://www.thetbls.com/) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79220 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Remotes for Touch
Maybe somebody can point out the real pro's for iPeng on iPhone/iTouch? Related to Squeezebox functionality...I understand it is also a phone, gaming device, etc. etc. I have a Logitech Harmony One as universal remote. Works fine with the Touch as long as you can see its screen and read it out. All commands are available and easily combined with your amplifier/stereo receiver (e.g. volume command) However, for playing plain Squeezebox music in the lazy chair (just too far away from the Touch to read out) I use a Squeezebox Controller as remote. this gives me all I need to pick my music and view artwork. -- Sakkerju Squeezebox Server-7.5.0 SSODS *** Squeezebox "Radio" - "Touch" - "Controller" *** WD TV Live Media Player Synology DS209+II - DSM 2.3-1141 - WD Caviar WD20EARS 2TB (RAID1) *** Linksys WRT320N 1Gb Denon PMA1500ae (analog)*** Kef iQ7 S.E *** Denon DVD DBP1610 (blu-ray) *** Sakkerju's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37149 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79220 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Viewing the Touch from across the room...
Getting there, I think . . .. I installed Custom Clock / Helper on the server and have picked the options up on the Touch so that I now have a number of different Custom Clock configurations under Custom Clock Settings. I then tried to replace the setting for 'Now Playing' with one of the VU meter options - so that when I now play a track I get a pair of meters along with Artist / track etc. Great. However when I've tried to select a different option (eg replace the VU Meters with another config option under the Screen Settings, for example "Now Playing GW" and return to playing a track, the VU meters still remain. I've turned the Touch off and on again but the VU meters are still there. Am I missing a step somewhere ? Thanks -- liffy99 liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78825 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Lazy Search not appearing on Touch
Touch arrived earlier this week & put it on the test bench (kitchen receiver). Updated my PC from SC 7.4 to SBS 7.5. Just finding my way around now & figuring out what's new/missing. I can't get any Lazy Search menu to appear on the Touch, but it is appearing fine on my old SB3 in the lounge. Any ideas? I tried deactivating the plugin, applying/restarting, then reactivating it, but no difference in behaviour - when pressing "Search" button on the remote, it just brings up a plain screen entitled "Search". The "Pressing SEARCH on the Remote Control" setting I have is "Accesses the lazy search music menu". (oh btw, while I'm here & trying to be economical with topic count, didn't ReplayGain used to be configurable somewhere? has that facility been removed or am I missing something?) Thanks in advance... Richard Info: -- SBS Version: 7.5.0 - r30464 @ Thu Apr 1 05:51:56 PDT 2010 SBT Firmware: 7.5.0-r8673 Lazy Search Music plugin version 3.5.6 -- RichardP RichardP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12324 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79253 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help for an aspiring audiophile
Excellent!! Just spent the last 2 hours trying to order one from the UK Logitech site with the 15% discount, but it refused with 'payment authorisation failed'. Called the support line but they were no help, telling me that it must be fault at my card end WITHOUT asking me any questions. Nothing wrong with my card mate, I just used it to buy the Western Digital My Passport 320gb. So now I've ordered the USB drive to use with the Touch, but no Touch!! Still got to make my mind up: Audioengine A5 Audioengine A2 Alesis M1 Active 520 Alesis M1 Active 320 H... help? -- NeonFrog NeonFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - first impressions and questions
You want the Touch II that I asked for a year ago - where the display/touch screen is in your hand, but everything else is in a seperate unit connected to your audio system. Recharging via that unit or a standalone docking station... or just use iPeng! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78066 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - first impressions and questions
liffy99;551454 Wrote: > > Oh, and please Logitech, can I have my analogue sound level meters back > . . . . The level meters were never correct anyway... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78066 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - first impressions and questions
I can only agree with the disappointing readability of the Touch screen. I for one find the album art a gimmick and would far prefer to do away with that for a larger font I can read from 4m plus away. And why do I need to see three song titles at once ? My SB3 was perfectly adequate showing one at a time and I just scrolled. I think Logitech have got this seriously wrong - the Touch would be fantastic as an in car item (where the proximity and touch elements of the screen would be perfect) but for remote operation it's next to hopeless. What is the point of a 5cm picture of album art that you can barely see from a listening position ? So are there any cures ? Would / could Logitech release a software update that did away with (or provided an option to replace) the 3 song titles / small font thing and tried to emulate the SB3 ? Is there a remote device that can handle the display info in your hand (like the Sonos) ? I've heard mention of Itouch / Ipeng etc but haven't a clue how this might work. Oh, and please Logitech, can I have my analogue sound level meters back . . . . -- liffy99 liffy99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78066 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
floater;551397 Wrote: > Missing the point completely. Is it not the opposite scenario that is of > relevance? > > Troll. First rule of holes: when in one stop digging. > > I'll not waste any more effort on you. Bye. 0/10 - there's only 1 Troll here... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Decrease Minimal Brightness of Touch
massman;551405 Wrote: > Hi there, > > Just a quick question regarding the Touch. I like to sleep a in > complete and deep dark room. The problem I got is that, for me, the > Minimal Brightness Level of the Touch is not enough. Is there any way > to decrease it a bit more? > > Thanks for your help ! > > -- > Massman You can set the screen to 'OFF While Playing' in the screensavers -- Tony T Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79243 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Decrease Minimal Brightness of Touch
Hi there, Just a quick question regarding the Touch. I like to sleep a in complete and deep dark room. The problem I got is that, for me, the Minimal Brightness Level of the Touch is not enough. Is there any way to decrease it a bit more? Thanks for your help ! -- Massman -- massman massman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79243 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Incorrect album artwork displayed
Hi, I had problems with the Touch, on a Windows Home Server. I run 3 Classics and a Duet and of course the Touch. I had never had a problem with Duet, artwork wise. But with the Touch, (probably more noticeable with the larger screen) I was getting random artwork, which was especially noticeable when playing "Various Artists" albums. The one's in particular were the "Now That's What I Call Music! # CD1 or CD2". I found out that if you truncated the title to "Now # CD1 or CD2" the correct artwork was displayed. I then tried taking out all of the punctuation in the title "Now Thats What I Call Music # CD1 or CD2. The correct artwork was displayed. I then tried "Now that's What I Call Music # CD1 or CD2" and that worked fine. The upshot is that it appears the exclamation mark in the title, somehow affects the way the artwork is shown. All of my files have embedded artwork shown as "Folder.jpg". By removing the exclamation mark the correct artwork was displayed. I checked my other files and found random files showed up with random artwork. On each occasion there was punctuation in the title. By trial and error, I eventually got the Touch to show the right artwork. I am not saying this is the definitive answer, but it worked for me. I am running the latest release of Squeezebox Server. -- sachadog sachadog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10564 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79202 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
m1abrams;551399 Wrote: > Big difference between the iPod and the Touch. > > The iPod does not scan and generate the database! iTunes does on your > PC. My many years old Archos mp3 player does just that: scans the database on disconnection from the PC. The only way I have ever added tracks to it has been by cutting & pasting. No database on the PC at all. And it just works & has never crashed. Now, my touch with a directly connected drive has been somewhat different! Which has the most hardware resources I wonder... In any case, the Touch crashes AFTER the database is created too (using USB), so that is a red herring anyway. -- floater floater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
Big difference between the iPod and the Touch. The iPod does not scan and generate the database! iTunes does on your PC. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
Phil Leigh;551382 Wrote: > Yeah, right. I really feel like walking down the street with a Touch + > disk drive + large battery pack in my pocket so I can plug some > headphones in... > > Missing the point completely. Is it not the opposite scenario that is of relevance? Troll. First rule of holes: when in one stop digging. I'll not waste any more effort on you. Bye. -- floater floater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help for an aspiring audiophile
garym;551380 Wrote: > You could also leave the TOUCH connected to the internal tinySbS with > UBS drive but control it from your netbook with SQUEEZEPLAY running on > your netbook (with the touch selected as the Player within > squeezeplay). Download it here toward bottom of page: > > http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 > > Note that you can also use this squeezeplay to turn your netbook into a > virtual squeezeplayer as well (even playing music FROM your touch/usb > drive). You just need to select the squeezeplay as the player rather > than the touch. bottom line, squeezeplay can mimic both a player and > the controller. Very true. ;) I presumed the OP wanted full SBS UI control of Touch. If the OP only requires basic play back control of Touch then Netbook + SqueezePlay would certainly do the trick. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
floater;551346 Wrote: > Hahahahahaah > > iPod plays music, indexed by tags. > > Touch plays music indexed by tags. > > iPod plays said music from directly connected hard drive. > > Touch plays said music from directly connected hard drive. > > iPod has no audible output of its own, but you can connect headphones. > > Touch has no audible output of its own, but you can connect > headphones. > > iPod runs on an internal battery, but could use an external power > supply. > > Touch runs on external power suuply, but could be rigged up to > batteries if desired: I believe one forum member uses one in his car. > > > > No, nothing in common whatsoever!!! Thanks for the biggest laugh of the > day so far. Yeah, right. I really feel like walking down the street with a Touch + disk drive + large battery pack in my pocket so I can plug some headphones in... As a retail product they have nothing in common. Technology is irrelevant. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
andynormancx;551349 Wrote: > Now that isn't really true is it ? > > They both run the same family of processors and they both have to run > software that categorizes music by artist, album, genre etc > > You know what I meant... Go to any retail web site - find iThings under "Portable Music Players" and find SB devices (if you CAN find them) under Wi-fi Music Players or Network Players or Media Streamers. They are chalk and cheese. So they have a similar CPU? - so does my Dishwasher! The only functional similarity is that both they have software that organises music on a hard disk into a library... I could change "nothing" to "very little". -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help for an aspiring audiophile
toby10;551376 Wrote: > There is no computer UI control of the Touch when using Touch's inbuilt > server + USB source material. > Touch's touch screens and IR remote are fully functional regardless of > what Touch is connected to (TinySBS on Touch, full SBS on computer, > MySB.com online). > > If you had Touch connected to full SBS on a computer (giving you UI > control), simply switch Touch to it's own internal server from the > Touch itself. > > Active monitors (or any self powered, self amplified speakers) will > work great with Touch. :) You could also leave the TOUCH connected to the internal tinySbS with UBS drive but control it from your netbook with SQUEEZEPLAY running on your netbook (with the touch selected as the Player within squeezeplay). Download it here toward bottom of page: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 Note that you can also use this squeezeplay to turn your netbook into a virtual squeezeplayer as well (even playing music FROM your touch/usb drive). You just need to select the squeezeplay as the player rather than the touch. bottom line, squeezeplay can mimic both a player and the controller. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
floater;551352 Wrote: > Maybe Logitech should hire a C++ programmer... Or at the very least move to python scripts. (Is all of SBS and TinySC really in Perl?) -- Tony T Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help for an aspiring audiophile
NeonFrog;551363 Wrote: > Hey John, > > You seem just the guy I'd like to get some information from. I'm > looking at buying a Touch/external hard drive/active speakers to use as > my main music system. The Touch will be in a bedroom approx 13' x 16', > so I could use the onscreen functions and remote, but I wanted to be > able to control it via wireless netbook. From what I'm understanding, > to do that I'd install the Squeezebox Server to the netbook which is > cool, but can I still use the onscreen touch functions if I wish? I > wouldn't want to lose that as I take the netbook out with me, and then > my partner wouldn't be able to use the Touch. Is that right? > > Also, I take it the Touch will connect to Active Monitors no problem? > > Cheers John, hope you can help. There is no computer UI control of the Touch when using Touch's inbuilt server + USB source material. Touch's touch screens and IR remote are fully functional regardless of what Touch is connected to (TinySBS on Touch, full SBS on computer, MySB.com online). If you had Touch connected to full SBS on a computer (giving you UI control), simply switch Touch to it's own internal server from the Touch itself. Active monitors (or any self powered, self amplified speakers) will work great with Touch. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help for an aspiring audiophile
tppproductions;551292 Wrote: > > 1. I purchased a Pioneer 919-AHk home theater receiver last year and > have Energy Take Classic 5.1 surround speaker setup. I am considering > getting the Squeezebox Touch so that I can enjoy my music library and > my Rhapsody subscription through my entertainment system. Anything audio is very subjective, but I think you will find the Touch's DAC far superior to a $400 class AVR/receiver. It is very simple to compare the Touch vs AVR DAC's. Simply attach both analog and digital outs from Touch to two separate input devices on your AVR. Now simply switch between these two inputs with your AVR's remote, see which you prefer. This is an overly simplistic ABX comparison, but I'd bet you will easily hear a difference. Let your ears decide which you find more pleasing. As suggested, your AVR is doing double DAC conversions using it's DAC. Touch's DAC (analog outs) will eliminate this double conversion. IMO, Touch's excellent DAC plus eliminating the double DAC conversion will be quite revealing to your ears. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB playback comlaints unfair
jcowling;551252 Wrote: > Ditto on the Vortexbox. Took an old PC that was not being used, > attached my Plextor external DVD/CD burner and a Mybook external HD > and, viola, a Vortexbox at an out of pocket cost of zero. Works great. I've been thinking, if I ever do go to a dedicated server (instead of TinySC), I might just get a refurbished Mac Mini and run it as a headless unit (I can access it with my laptop via screen sharing). I won't have to deal with different operating systems, and I can find other uses for the Mini. -- Tony T Tony SBTouch ♪ SBRadio ♬ Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79199 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help for an aspiring audiophile
JohnSwenson;551302 Wrote: > > > You are going to have to choose how you want to control the Touch. > Where its going to be located relative to where you are sitting is a > significant factor. If the Touch is going to be right next to your > listening position you can use the Touch screen itself. If its further > away you can use the included remote control, but be warned the screen > is not that large and it is difficult to read from across the room. > There are apps for many portable devices (iPhone, iPod Touch, android > phones, windows mobile phones, PDAs etc) that can control a Touch using > the local screen in your hand. A lot of people like these very much. > > > The server running on your computer also serves up a web page (the > WebUI) that can control the system from any browser on anything you > have. (phones, laptops, watch, anything with a browser) > > John S. Hey John, You seem just the guy I'd like to get some information from. I'm looking at buying a Touch/external hard drive/active speakers to use as my main music system. The Touch will be in a bedroom approx 13' x 16', so I could use the onscreen functions and remote, but I wanted to be able to control it via wireless netbook. From what I'm understanding, to do that I'd install the Squeezebox Server to the netbook which is cool, but can I still use the onscreen touch functions if I wish? I wouldn't want to lose that as I take the netbook out with me, and then my partner wouldn't be able to use the Touch. Is that right? Also, I take it the Touch will connect to Active Monitors no problem? Cheers John, hope you can help. -- NeonFrog NeonFrog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to lock audio output at 100% (I think)
firedog;551344 Wrote: > > I somehow don't get it. How do I install the patch installer? > You need a Squeezebox Server installed on a computer at the moment. On the Touch, now connect to the SBS and select Settings/Advanced/Applet Installer, uncheck the "Recommended applets only" checkbox and select to install "Patch Installer". firedog;551344 Wrote: > > And where do I find the actual audio 100% patch so that the patch > installer can install it? > On the Touch, goto Settings/Advanced/Patch Installer and then select to install "Volume Fixed at 100%" patch. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77837 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
andynormancx;551349 Wrote: > > The iPod (Classic) has a very much slower CPU than the Touch, but one > can only assume its software is somewhat more efficient than than a > bunch of Perl scripts ;) > Maybe Logitech should hire a C++ programmer... -- floater floater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
Phil Leigh;551339 Wrote: > > 2) The Touch and an ithing have nothing in common. Now that isn't really true is it ? They both run the same family of processors and they both have to run software that categorizes music by artist, album, genre etc The iPod (Classic) has a very much slower CPU than the Touch, but one can only assume its software is somewhat more efficient than than a bunch of Perl scripts ;) Though that said the iPod has the advantage that it gets to build it's database offline as part of the iTunes sync process. There is a device out there however that also uses an ARM CPU slower than the Touch, builds its database online and manages to operate faster than even SBS running on a powerful PC. Even better, it was a device designed in the previous century... ...the device, the empeg in car mp3 player, a marvel of efficient code and hardware. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
Phil Leigh;551339 Wrote: > 1) The Touch is not a "high-spec portable mp3 player" - it is a (very) > high quality Network Music Player. It has no audible output of its own > and does not run on batteries. > > 2) The Touch and an ithing have nothing in common. Hahahahahaah iPod plays music, indexed by tags. Touch plays music indexed by tags. iPod plays said music from directly connected hard drive. Touch plays said music from directly connected hard drive. iPod has no audible output of its own, but you can connect headphones. Touch has no audible output of its own, but you can connect headphones. iPod runs on an internal battery, but could use an external power supply. Touch runs on external power suuply, but could be rigged up to batteries if desired: I believe one forum member uses one in his car. No, nothing in common whatsoever!!! Thanks for the biggest laugh of the day so far. -- floater floater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to lock audio output at 100% (I think)
Hi, I somehow don't get it. How do I install the patch installer? And where do I find the actual audio 100% patch so that the patch installer can install it? Thanks, Danny -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Duet through Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-150 amp, MF V DAC3, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77837 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
floater;551332 Wrote: > So we have what is in essence a high spec. mp3 player that can't > function as well as a portable mp3 player... It would seem SBS is not > very efficient & the legacy of having it run on a PC has caught out > Logitech with their hardware specification for the Touch. > > > If an iPod behaved like this would people be happy?? An iPod Classic > with 160GB drive claims to be able to store up to 40,000 songs. Has > anyone got near this & does it still work? I'd expect a domestic > equivalent (e.g. Touch) to work better, if anything! 1) The Touch is not a "high-spec portable mp3 player" - it is a (very) high quality Network Music Player. It has no audible output of its own and does not run on batteries. 2) The Touch and an ithing have nothing in common. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How large a music collection is "too large" for TinySC?
So we have what is in essence a high spec. mp3 player that can't function as well as a portable mp3 player... It would seem SBS is not very efficient & the legacy of having it run on a PC has caught out Logitech with their hardware specification for the Touch. If an iPod behaved like this would people be happy?? An iPod Classic with 160GB drive claims to be able to store up to 40,000 songs. Has anyone got near this & does it still work? I'd expect a domestic equivalent (e.g. Touch) to work better, if anything! -- floater floater's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79212 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
