Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Album Art went poof!

2011-01-27 Thread TimFranke

For me it is the same behavior that dbinder101 described!
Any hints are highly appreciated.

Best regards,
Tim


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Server not streaming to SB Touch

2011-01-27 Thread Mnyb

The enter ip as remote library work around also helps if you have
problems with firewalls not letting port 3483 be open.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TinySBS, show 'Track) Artist - Title'?

2011-01-27 Thread 808htfan

That is wierd, my other preferences WERE maintained.  I did not do a
factory reset.  You know, I might have accidentally done a reset while
the server was still scanning the HDD for new/changed files.  Might
that have caused it to rewrite some files, server.prefs?

Too bad about TinySBS not using DISC...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TinySBS, show 'Track) Artist - Title'?

2011-01-27 Thread JJZolx

I wouldn't have thought it would be reset with a firmware upgrade.  Your
other preferences were maintained, weren't they?  Things like the screen
wallpaper, SSH still enabled, etc.  Or did you also do a factory reset?

Yes, I also noticed DISC isn't supported in TinySC titleformats for
some reason.  Maybe it's broken or else disabled to save a couple of
bytes.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] TinySBS, show 'Track) Artist - Title'?

2011-01-27 Thread 808htfan

Ok, had things working and displayed as I wanted but with the upgrade to
7.5.3 things were set back to default.  I guess that's to be expected?

New question:  In TinySBS I tried the line DISC.TRACKNUM) TITLE -
ARTIST, but doesn't work out.  It shows as TRACKNUM) TITLE - ARTIST,
even on albums with disc numbers (DISCNUMBER tag in Mp3tag).  Funny,
'cause in full SBS it works just fine.  Anyone have any idea why?

Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Registered Logitech product, got 20% off Touch!

2011-01-27 Thread Rick58

You're welcome!  and I am really enjoying my Touch, which seems like a
great product, esp. for $240. I have been listening more in the past
week than for several months. That's a good sign ...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Server not streaming to SB Touch

2011-01-27 Thread glaesi

hi there slimquest,

i was having the exact same problem as you are describing.
i had a SB Classic v3 before which worked like a charm with my Synology
DS-209+ (using the Syno-Pkg of SBS v7.5.1).

two days ago i replaced my SB Classic with a SB Touch.

the WLAN connection and internet radio was up and running within 2
minutes after unpacking and plugging in the device - but it just
wouldn't see and connect to my NAS.

also the SB Touch requested a firmware upgrade from 7.5.1 to 7.5.3.

that's were the problems really started.
because my SBS version on the NAS still was 7.5.1 and there's no newer
version available as a Syno-Pkg.

so i had to uninstall the SBS 7.5.1 and installed&configured SSODS
v4.9.1 with SBS 7.5.3 to level the SB Touch version.

but the SB touch still wouldn't see and connect to my NAS.

after browsing around in the SB Touch menus i found the 'remote
library' section and tried to add my NAS by putting in the IP.
the NAS' name was instantly resolved and then i was asked the
username/password thing, which i never saw before with the SB Classic.

after a bit of trying&thinking, i finally used the credentials which i
configured in SBS running on my NAS.
the credentials/password protection of SBS are under:
http://:9000
settings (-> new browser window opens) > advanced tab > security.

i guess (but haven't tested yet), if i hadn't chosen a password
protection on the SBS, the SB Touch would have found the library right
away.

just wondering if one could create additional custom accounts on the
SBS.

but then again, i'm just happy to have my music library back. :-))

hope this works for you too.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Nordost Sort cones

2011-01-27 Thread Mnyb

SuperQ;606022 Wrote: 
> Sounds great, they're made of evaporated unicorn pee.
> 
> This stuff is snake oil.

No this is their snake oil ,( or unicorn pee in spray form )

http://www.nordost.com/ECO-3-P67.asp


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Nordost Sort cones

2011-01-27 Thread SuperQ

Sounds great, they're made of evaporated unicorn pee.

This stuff is snake oil.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Nordost Sort cones

2011-01-27 Thread magiccarpetride

I am getting a bit intrigued by the Nordost Sort cones
(http://www.nordost.com/Sort-Kone-P73.asp), especially after
auditioning them at the local store. I can see trying these cones under
my DAC, under my pre amp and under my power amp.

But under Touch? How would I even do that? Touch has very odd bottom
shape, and there doesn't seem to be a way of supporting it properly
from the bottom.

Has anyone tried these kinds of isolation/energy dissipation devices on
the Touch? Any feedback/reviews? How did you go about installing these
cones/blocks?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] mixed genres in one compilation album

2011-01-27 Thread garym

perhaps related to this setting:

SbS > Setings > My Music Tab

Check your setting for "Filter genres at the album & track level"


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-27 Thread magiccarpetride

chill;605976 Wrote: 
> Perhaps you, with your years of professional programming experience,
> would like to point me in the right direction in understanding how that
> mod can have an effect.

I don't explain them, I just enjoy them.

chill;605976 Wrote: 
> Now that's a clever attempt to make a valid point, but we all know that
> in the audiophile world it is never this way around.

Never? I've just recently tried a pair of Belkin Pure AV interconnects,
which could easily be measured as introducing a substantial change into
my audio chain (they are just so different in design philosophy and
build than my old interconnects). And while many people have reported
hearing amazing differences and improvements, I, for the life of me,
cannot hear even the slightest difference. Swapping back and forth, and
even trying some other interconnects I've borrowed from friends (some of
which are even ten times more expensive than the original
interconnects), the differences were completely lost on me. Everything
basically continued sounding absolutely the same to me.

So the difference in measuring does not always translate into perceived
differences.

Same thing happened to me many times over with different components.
Even when it comes to various power amps, some bargain priced, others
super expensive, I often times couldn't hear even the slightest
difference in sound.

However, every now and then, I introduce a change into my audio system
and then I get blown away by the unbelievable improvements. Such as
with this Soundcheck mods case.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-27 Thread Gazjam

Good Post Alex.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch As Pre-amp

2011-01-27 Thread magiccarpetride

mraub1;605443 Wrote: 
> I'm new to digital audio, so pardon if this question sounds asinine.
> 
> I'm assembling a 2-channel music system. A pair of Magnepan 1.7's are
> on order and I've purchased an Emotiva XPA-2 (500 w/ch @ 4 ohms--the
> Maggies are massively power hungry). By all accounts on this board and
> others, the Touch's DAC is decent enough that most people can't
> distinguish its output from a much more expensive dedicated DAC.
> 
> Since the Touch has a volume control I can't I need any additional gear
> for a decent hifi system. What I can't determine is whether the analog
> Touch outputs will drive the amp hard enough for use with very
> inefficient speakers like the Magnepan's. The book that came with the
> touch had no specification of the maximum voltage the Touch can output
> from the analog jacks.
> 
> Is driving the XPA-2 with the Touch's analog outputs going to work?
> Emotiva also sells a relatively inexpensive digital pre-amp, but I
> can't see buying if I don't need it.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.

I wouldn't advise you to use Touch as an attenuator. It is much more
important to ensure that the digital volume level on the Touch stays
absolutely fixed at 100% (apply Soundcheck's mod, which you can find on
another thread in this forum).

I'm using Touch as a digital source to drive a pair of Magnepan
speakers, and only if I disable the digital attenuation on the Touch do
I get that much sought after high-end sound quality that is at the same
time decidedly no 'hi fi' like. In other words, neutrality, truth in
music presentation, production instead of re-production, and a complete
absence of editorializing during the playback.

But for that, you'll have to go with a highly refined DAC. The one
inside the Touch is definitely not up to the task.

In all seriousness, plan on doing all this because your Maggies deserve
it. As you probably know already, Maggies don't lie, and they will
mercilessly reveal sub-standard components in your chain. As it stands
today, fully modded Touch (via Soundcheck's mods) is a formidable
digital transport that can stand shoulder to shoulder with many high
end digital transports. This incredible digital transport needs to be
paired with a high quality DAC.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-27 Thread chill

magiccarpetride;605943 Wrote: 
> For example, we have recently had one member here calling bullshit on
> Soundcheck's mods because he claims that he is a computer programmer
> and that, from the standpoint of the source code, there couldn't
> possibly be any differences.
> 
> That's what I call deductive reasoning. A person refuses to look into
> empirical evidence, and is pre-emptivelly taking a stance. Good for
> him.
> 

Hey, I resemble that remark! But one of us has misunderstood. 

Maybe it was you:
My 'deductive reasoning' was being applied only to the volume
maximising mod.  I can understand the argument that superfluous
processor load in the touch could conceivably have an impact on some
parts of the music reproduction process, but this mod in particular has
no possibility of doing that.  The amount of computation is the same,
the result is the same, but rather than using the computed result the
mod uses a hard coded value.  Perhaps you, with your years of
professional programming experience, would like to point me in the
right direction in understanding how that mod can have an effect.

Maybe it was me:
I had assumed that you'd accepted that this particular mod could not
possibly affect the sound waves hitting your eardrums, and we were
simply arguing about your right to interpret those sound waves
differently.

magiccarpetride;605943 Wrote: 
> Like for example, if I listen to two different configurations and I
> can't hear any differences between the two, while at the same time you
> present me with measuring results that plainly and convincingly
> demonstrate huge differences between these two configurations, I will
> remain completely unimpressed. Why? Because, to me, it means absolutely
> nothing. If I can't hear it, I'm not buying it, period.

Now that's a clever attempt to make a valid point, but we all know that
in the audiophile world it is never this way around.

Anyway, I think this point has been done to death now.  Surely the next
instalment is Phil's results.  Phil - put away your microphone and your
room correction software and finish up your post on the tests.  You see
what happens when you create a vacuum!


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[SlimDevices: Touch] mixed genres in one compilation album

2011-01-27 Thread ri.widhalm

Hi,

I have an issue with my compilations on my squeezebox touch with usb
hard drive.

My compilations have mixed genres (classic, rock, ...). If I browse
under "My Music" -> "Genres" -> "Classic" my compilations containing at
least one track with genre classic appear, but when I select them it
shows "empty" instead of tracks.

Only albums where the genre is the same for each track are displayd as
expected.

Has anyone experienced that. Am I tagging my files wrong.

PS: my music is ripped with MediaMonkey 3.2.4, all FLACs

Thank you in advance for your help

Richard


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Album Art went poof!

2011-01-27 Thread MDDLMN

I'm having the same problem. Up until last week the album art worked
flawlessly. I have a folder.jpg in every folder and it worked just
fine. I'm using the Touch currently with an USB flash drive.
I then bough a new CD and copied the ripped mp3s onto the Touch, this
was when I first noticed missing artwork because the new album didn't
show any (though folder.jpgs were present). After moving a couple of
more albums from and to the flash disk and thus rescanning the stick a
couple of times now all the artwork is missing! Even those albums that
worked flawlessly before. Can anyone help me here?
Usually if no covers are present it shows a kind of CD icon, doesn't
it. In  my case it only shows blank space, though. Both in the albums
list as well as in the now playing screen.

I using the TinySB server with an 8GB USB drive. Firmware version is
7.5.3 r9283. It updated recently, might this be the source of my
troubles? All files are either ripped or downloaded from amazon, no
iTunes involved.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-27 Thread magiccarpetride

Phil Leigh;605620 Wrote: 
> As far as I can see, nobody has yet presented any "measurements"...
> therefore nobody has yet attempted to interpret them...

That's an excellent point. Thanks for bringing it up. This gives me
(hopefully) an opportunity to revise my statements: in the absence of
measurements, people rely on deductive reasoning, more so than on
empirical evidence. And that's precisely my beef.

For example, we have recently had one member here calling bullshit on
Soundcheck's mods because he claims that he is a computer programmer
and that, from the standpoint of the source code, there couldn't
possibly be any differences.

That's what I call deductive reasoning. A person refuses to look into
empirical evidence, and is pre-emptivelly taking a stance. Good for
him.

I, on the other hand, prefer to rely on empirical evidence, as it gets
presented to my senses. That's all. And please, don't misconstrue this
as me insisting that everyone must follow my lead. All I'm saying is,
here's my set of preferences, please respect them, and I will in turn
respect your set of preferences.

Phil Leigh;605620 Wrote: 
> I'm not clear how you can predict with such confidence that the
> measuring results will be "shoddy", given that nobody has yet presented
> any results...
> 
> Obviously you have already decided that the results will be out of line
> with your subjective listening experiences. You should have more
> self-esteem... 
> :-)

I'm not predicting that they will be shoddy, I'm just predicting that,
correct and impeccable as they may be, they'll be largely irrelevant to
me.

Like for example, if I listen to two different configurations and I
can't hear any differences between the two, while at the same time you
present me with measuring results that plainly and convincingly
demonstrate huge differences between these two configurations, I will
remain completely unimpressed. Why? Because, to me, it means absolutely
nothing. If I can't hear it, I'm not buying it, period.

And vice versa, of course.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread rayman1701


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I do occasionally, mine is set up right next to my listening spot and
sometimes it's just easier to use the touchscreen to scroll faster or
to type in a search.  I use the IR so that I don't have to do a lot of
reaching or twisting, since I don't have an iTouch/iPhone.  I did think
that I'd use the touchscreen a little more when I first got it, but for
most things I like the IR remote.  And since it's my first Squeeze
product, it has totally changed my music listening and I think it's the
best component I've purchased in a long, long time.  Makes mega CD
changers, seem as clunky changing Edison cylinders.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Play other songs?

2011-01-27 Thread jstraw

I see a configuration interface for this on SBS but I haven't been able
to find it as a feature on my devices. What is it? How do I access it?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Registered Logitech product, got 20% off Touch!

2011-01-27 Thread pot_pie

Thanks for this tip. Finally picked up a Squeezebox Touch and moved my
v3 into the bedroom.

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[SlimDevices: Touch] Adding Stations and Internet Radio Menus

2011-01-27 Thread Audiofile

Previously, I was able to save radio stations at the touch screen to my
favorites list on Mysqueezebox.com.  While the favorites are still
there, and so is the menu item, there is no longer an "Internet Radio"
menu option on the touch screeen from which to do this any longer. 
There is an Internet Radio option on the Squeezebox Touch and favorites
go to a new list there.  Must I be relegated to adding stations to the
old favorites list by doing so on the computer (which I have not yet
attempted.) Any one else have this problem?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread guidof


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85129

Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My screen is _always_ off (per soundcheck's mods), except when I need to
do a factory reset to update SBServer.

I control my SBTouch from my iPad. It's big enough that one can
actually see things like album art!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Miksis


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Never.  And I never expected to.  I've always thought of the Touch as an
SB3 with a nice color screen and a useless touch feature.  As others
have said, it really depends where it's located and what it's connected
to.

Actually, the only time I use the touchscreen is to accept firmware
updates.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Mnyb


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


It has much more powerfull cpu than radio and a very good dac and
digital out.

The 24bit 96kHz capacity is also nice :) not many streaming device from
anyone ? has this especially at this price ?
So sound vise it's well worth the money .

I think that's the more powerfull CPU is mostly for running it's local
squeezboxserver if you  attach a harddrive to it .

That must contribute some.

Radios price point is  low considering that it's probably the same
screen and a little more cpu than the controller and it is cheaper than
the controller.
But pricing is also tied to what kind of custommer you expect for a
product.
Radio is not the cheapest product in it's market niche so it can not be
more expensive than it is.

So it is radio that is cheap, it competes where there is many products
and people expect them to be cheap.

A Touch buyer is maybe not as price sensitive as Radio buyer.

And manufacturing cost are very cheap today (made in china), probably
not as significant for the end price as many believes it's peanuts
basically.
All other cost associated around developing marketing and selling and
distribute the product is probably a lot more than bom (bill of
manufacturing ) price from the factory when you order pallet loads off
them.

Setting a price is most down to guess how usefull the byer thinks it is
for that price.
If you have a product that customer find very usefull and good and
worth having you can charge more , again not much to do with parts
costs.

I seriusly wonder if it cost more or less than 10% off it's price to
manufacture it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Applet reinstall after upgrade -- normal?

2011-01-27 Thread mbg

bluegaspode;605863 Wrote: 
> It's normal.
> 
> After a firmware upgrade every Applet could break your Touch.
> They want you to see that it works again after the upgrade.
> 
> Then you can reinstall all Applets with a single click ... and if it's
> broke you know who to blame :)

Makes sense -- thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Applet reinstall after upgrade -- normal?

2011-01-27 Thread bluegaspode

It's normal.

After a firmware upgrade every Applet could break your Touch.
They want you to see that it works again after the upgrade.

Then you can reinstall all Applets with a single click ... and if it's
broke you know who to blame :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread trouty00


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Mnyb;605856 Wrote: 
> I use it occasionally at least daily .
> 
> But why do you think it's expensive ? the old vfd screens are expensive
> ,not this . I don't think it's such a big deal on it's price .

just think compared to SBR with the extras the radio has its pricey 

I'm not an audiophile so if there are other major internal dac
differences then its justified

Mnyb;605856 Wrote: 
> 
> I consider it well worth having, even if you only ever use for the
> setup and diagnostics and then for screensaver .
initial setup easy enough on radio and would be easy with IR.
screensaver i agree with you but you dont need a touch screen for a
screensaver.

Mnyb;605856 Wrote: 
> Not from a controller like the reciever (that's a brain f*rt imho) 

agreed, setting up receiver with controller was a pain in the ar$e but
with IR would be easy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread trouty00


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


The reasoning I started this poll was to judge response and tbh see if
there is a market for a player without the expense of a touch screen, I
have no idea what they cost but im guessing significant based on the
cost difference between radio and touch and with the radio having a
built in good quality speaker. I bought it thinking I would use the
touchscreen all the time because it was cool but sitting on the sofa
with my tab is much cooler!

I also wanted to find out if I was on my own in this situation. I kind
of regret putting the 'occasionally' option in. I do use it
occasionally i guess myself but posted never as i only use it for
configuration once in a blue moon which would be very easy to do with
ir remote. If the people voting here are occasionally using it for
config and they could do these tasks with IR then we have a heavy lean
to people not using the touch screen. Now I dont for one minute expect
logitech to start producing a non-touch touch (i'm sure you understand
me...) becasue of the costs involved in r&d and confusion in the
product set.

Its also good to understand the use-cases for when people solely use
the touch screen IE bathroom or car. I think its perfect for the
bathroom (weather permitting) coupled with ceiling speakers and also
for the kitchen although i do like the shortcut buttons on the radio
allowing me to choose a favourite quickly and easily.

I would certainly miss those shortcut buttons on the touch if i had it
in my kitchen although i know there is a gestures section in the beta
mode so maybe you could program your own gestures as shortcuts. ie just
swype a number.

and you will see from my sig that my bathroom is crying out for a
touch, but just got no way to mount it nicely!!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Mnyb


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I use it occasionally at least daily .

But why do you think it's expensive ? the old vfd screens are expensive
,not this . I don't think it's such a big deal on it's price .

A normal LCD screen vs a touch screen ? how much would it differ ?

I consider it well worth having, even if you only ever use for the
setup and diagnostics and then for screensaver .

Imho a squeezebox should be possible to setup from itself or a nice
web-gui.

Not from a controller like the reciever (that's a brain f*rt imho)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Searching for advice of usb use

2011-01-27 Thread hpk

Just got my Squeezebox Touch today, and connected a LaCie 640GB USB
powered disc with 60'000 MP3 files. It took about 4h to read all in,
but now it's als fluent as on the Squeezebox Receiver ...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread iPhone


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I have several Touch Squeezeboxes. For me it really depends which Touch
I am talking about. One Touch is mounted in the wall as a Controller
and source for the kitchen ceiling speakers. This Touch gets touched
often. When the Touch is in the SUV, it is the only interface as well
as at the Beach or Cabin. I often use a Touch as a Controller. The
other Touch units just get used when I happen to be up and next to them
as I have iPeng on both the better half's iPhone and mine. And as I
said, I often use a Touch to control other Squeezeboxes in the house as
they do make a great localized Controller also.

The display is getting a bunch of face time on most of the units so the
display might as well have the dual purpose as a touch input device, not
just a display IMO.

So what is the reasoning for the poll? Were you thinking from your use
that the Touch just really only needs an LCD screen for a display
without touch?

As for IR remotes, I couldn't tell you the last time I used an actual
Squeezebox remote. I used the Harmony 1000 about two weeks ago to start
a player in that room. I have more then 10 Squeezebox remotes in a
drawer that haven't been touched in well over a year.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread mbg


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


Background: I haven't had the Touch for long. I have two Classics, one
Boom, and two Touches.

I almost exclusively use the touch screen on the Touch. Mainly because
it's way easier for Search, and most other things, IMO.

I can't say I thoroughly like touch screens, but on the Touch it seems
like the best way of interacting with it.

The only thing I use the remote for is to turn it off if my hands are a
bit dirty :)

Actually, I wish there was an easier way to quickly turn it off from
the touch UI. Right now, I am holding down the Back button to go Home,
and then turning it off with the on/off button. If there was some kind
of gesture to turn it off from anywhere, that'd be nice!


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Applet reinstall after upgrade -- normal?

2011-01-27 Thread mbg

I haven't had the Touch very long (have had Classic and Boom for awhile,
though), but it seems like whenever a Squeezebox software update comes
along, I have to re-install one of my apps else it doesn't work after
the upgrade.

The app in question is the Custom Clock applet.

Does anyone know if this is normal, or whether it's app-specific?

Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Blazer


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I use my Touch as an "in house" portable music device. I stream music to
it from my desktop PC via the Squeezebox server application. I may have
the Touch setting right beside that desktop PC using some Grado
headphones, or on the front/back porch. 

When I want to listen to my music in my "2 channel" sound room, I keep
a pair of 15 foot interconnect cables connected to a pre-amp input. I
just use those cables and keep the Touch beside me at my listening
position.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread pnharrison


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


cjfreitag;605823 Wrote: 
> I don't even like powering off using the touch screen as it means
> working back across several menus. 

Have you tried a single swipe from left to right;  brings up Home with
the Power button at the top.  So you can power off with two movements.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread pnharrison


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I do use the screen occasionally, but I agree it's less than I expected
when I first bought the Touch.
That said, if I didn't have the touch inteface, I would really miss it
for those times that I'm standing next to my receiver.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread ralphpnj


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I use a combination of Touch screen, Touch remote and Moose. I like
Moose since it is by far the fastest way to locate any given item in my
very large music library. The Touch screen and remote are useful when
the Moose window on my computer is covered by something else, like
Firefox, as is the currently the case.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Searching for advice of usb use

2011-01-27 Thread iPhone

If one isn't expecting to much and realizes that TinySC is not SBS
running on a PC, then TinySC can be a means to listen to local tunes. I
use TinySC in my SUV and at the cabin every weekend.

I have used both large drives (2TB) and small drives 320 to 500 GB with
99 percent being FLAC so we are talking about 16,000 to 125K in total
tracks without issue. Album Artwork can be an issue also. Make sure
that the artwork is all under 600x600 and no huge file sizes. TinySC
also seems to do better with -5 compression (besides one really doesn't
gain anything by using -8 in the first place).

BUT, there are some things to know and realize. TinySC is NOT SBS. It
has limited resources and is of course slower then SBS running on a PC.
If you know what you are doing and do it straight forward and wait for
each command to be completed, TinySC is completely usable. If one is
the type that changes their mind halfway through something and inputs
command after command, one will have issues with the built-in server.

The type, model, and brand of USB drive can be important also as some
drives just don't work. I have had great success with the USB Powered
Toshiba USB drives. Older external powered USB drives that don't have a
bunch of features tend to work well. Drives that act like an Optical
drive when plugged into a PC just don't work. Avoid drives that spin
down or sleep after each access.

One very important thing to do is not to fill the drive up completely
with music. After the drive is formated, only use about 85 percent of
the formated total for music for there needs to be free space on the
drive for TinySC to use. Granted TinySC doesn't need all that space but
the drive will perform better if its not filled to the brim with music.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem connecting LaCie HDD to Touch

2011-01-27 Thread hpk

Got my Squeezebox Touch today, and could connect it to the Bus Powered
LaCie 640GB Drive. As I had the drive since last week, I already
formatted it and loaded it with 250GB of music. 

Building the database took about 4h but now, Touch's internal server
works like a charm


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Ocean56


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I'm always getting up to look AT the screen & see what's playingand
I use it exclusively to control it.  I have used the remote a little
bit.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Why is my Touch constantly rebuffering??

2011-01-27 Thread Ocean56

Bumping this post...are there other things I should check?  SHOULD I
uninstall SB Server if not using it at present on my PC?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Searching for advice of usb use

2011-01-27 Thread dasmueller

I am still in the process of ripping and converting to FLAC. I use a 1TB
Toshiba Canvio. At the present I have 380 GB and 17500 files on the
drive. I did a complete rescan yesterday as I added files. The complete
rescan once I got it started took approx 1.5 hrs which is not a big deal
because its something you only need to do when adding files or
correcting tags. I think speed is fine. The album art is a tad slow to
show up when searching but not a killer.

Be fussy about your tags, develop a system and stick to it. Have your
files backed up to a 2nd drive.  The operating system on my PC crashed
a few weeeks back and I almost lost 65 GB of files.

Good luck !


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Any IR control solutions for Touch

2011-01-27 Thread cjfreitag

Is there any way I can connect an IR emitter to the Touch to send simple
on/off commands to my receiver?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread cjfreitag


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


In general I only use the touch screen to power on or off. Since I have
to be physically there to turn my receiver on (no IRBlaster), it's
easy. I might even select a Favorite to play. Anything more than that,
it's iPad/iPeng.

I don't even like powering off using the touch screen as it means
working back across several menus. I guess I should just leave the
remote next to it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread maggior


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I used the touch screen exclusively until I got an iPod Touch and loaded
iPeng.  Like Soulkeeper, I had my touch set up next to my listening
chair hooked up to a headphone rig.  It turns out that the iPeng/SB3
setup by my listening chair works out better.  

My Touch is now in my family room where the SB3 used to be.  If I'm on
the couch, I'll use iPeng.  If I'm up, I'll use the touch's touch
interface.  

I find that the touch interface is a little awkward because of the
angle and the fact that I'm standing over it.  Ipeng isn't awkward at
all since it is in your hand.


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Rich
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Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod
Touch.  SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and
SqueezeSlave.  
Current library stats: 33,696 songs, 2,720 albums, 499 artists.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Searching for advice of usb use

2011-01-27 Thread PatLogan

Hi tank,
Thx for your contribution, I have much more but I'm not sure there
would be some big difference from 86 to 220 go.
Any other testimonies?
Cheers


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Ikabob


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I never use the touch screen. I use ipeng exclusively. I couldn't enjoy
the Squeeze functions without ipeng. No one in my household even knows
that the Touch has an active touch screen . I keep that a secret.  I
don't want to get it all smudged up. I love the Squeezes. 

I would like to get a protective shield for the screen but I cannot
find the exact size and cutting one is not precise for me.


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Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil
Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). 
Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; 
Services:Rhapsody; Sky.com; JazzRadio.com services;
Ipeng remote controller.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Searching for advice of usb use

2011-01-27 Thread tank121

Pat

I've been running the Touch from release date with an Iomega 500gb 2.5"
HD ( powered by USB) with 2,600 tracks (flac)(currently about 86gb) with
no real issues.

Occasionaly you may need to stop and start the inbuilt server software
more than once when you've disconnected the drive.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread pippin


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


I actually use it a lot. It's the only Squeezebox where I actually use
something else than iPeng for music selection.
But that's probably mainly due to the fact that it's my bathroom
Squeezebox and I usually don't want to play around with an iThingy in
the bathroom and I'm usually close enough to the Touch to not want to
use an IR remote.

I mainly play Pandora stations there or I join into music I listen on
other SBs, so the overall amount of music selection is limited but most
of the volume control, play/pause/power/skip stuff is done actually on
the Touch.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread chill


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85129

Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My Touch replaced an SB3 that was in my hifi cabinet. I placed it
outside the cabinet just to give the touchscreen a fair chance of
making itself useful, and in fact I find it very useful - it's the one
'interface' that is always in the same place and accessible.  If the
phone rings, I can quickly pause the music without having to locate an
IR remote, iPhone, laptop etc. I tend to agree that the visuals are a
bit small to be useful when I'm sat the other side of the room, but
then the iPad or laptop fill that need anyway.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread firedog


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My listening position is next to my kit, so I use the touch screen
exclusively.

I find the Touch's screen is too small to be useful from most normal
listening distances anyway(10ft-3m); so if I couldn't sit close to the
Touch I'd probably use an iPod Touch/iPad as the interface.


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Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to
Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF V DAC3, MF X-150 amp, Devore Gibbon Super 8
Speakers; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with
M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which
I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread Soulkeeper


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Question: How Much do you use the touch screen?

- Never - IR, Android/I-device or Web Gui.
- I only use Touch Screen
- Occasionally.
- Half the time I use the touch screen.
- More touch screen than anything else?


My Touch is currently sitting beside my computer keyboard, connected to
headphones, so I went for the last option. 

The flexibility of multiple controller interfaces (touch screen + IR
remote + SB Controller + Android phone SqueezeCommander + SBS web
interface + synchronize/choose player from another SB), is a large part
of the reason why I like the Touch.


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-that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even
death may die.-
touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or
higher/win7(32b)/avira free

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-01-27 Thread soundcheck

I'm pretty active since years on Audio Asylum and DIY-Audio.

Just a side note - the way I see certain things:

Audio Asylum is used by some manufactures as a marketing platform --
same over here, different people though. (perhaps those manufacturers
havn't even realized that ;) ) 

Just by being present over here and supporting people with "honest"
professional advise, will do marketing for them. As long as this
complies to the forum rules there's nothing wrong about it.
If it is Logitech staff or those iApp developers/company owners to name
two parties with commercial interests I recognize over here doesn't
matter. 

I do think that this forum is a Logitech company driven forum, not a
private one -- right!?!? At least Logitech can do and claim whatever
they want over here.

So, at least some of you guys don't be so naive to think you'd be on
save ground over here. You're not.

Back to Audio Asylum and the measurements

1.
For years I've been facing similar discussions as well as CICS who
developed CPLAY/CMP on an XP platform.
Especially the manufacturers ( with estimated accumulated 200 years of
audio experience) were heavily opposing what was evident to those who
were running those special PC installations.

Manufacturer refrain: "We measured it with 20k+ equipment. It's nothing
there. Nonsense."
(Even if they would have experienced the audible changes, you bet they
wouldn't have told us) 

How in the world was I supposed to get around such an argument at that
time!?!?  Impossible.

Nowadays pretty much all of them are running Amarra and Pure Music on
their MACs. 
The funny thing, those apps are doing nothing else then that what my
mods or Cics stuff were doing at that earlier time. Nowadays certain
mods are applied the Touch. 

The best thing of all: Ayre even developed their own OSX SW player!

Go to RMAF or CES. Count how many DAC manufacturers are using those
apps. Ask them why they need it? iTunes is supposed to be
bit-transparent!

To wrap it up. 

If NON of those manufacturers gets the PC induced problems solved or
measured it's not a competitive disadvantage to run those apps. 
As soon as the first DAC supplier gets the problem solved the
competition will have a serious problem to explain why they have to use
Amarra or similar. 

2.

Some words about SPDIF. There have been endless discussions about SPDIF
and its quality potential, implementation, cable length asf. Try to look
it up. 
It doesn't matter where you look -- e.g. Lavry or Empirical Audio or
whoever -- non of them can give a consistent answer what to do with the
SPDIF associated problems. 
Try to figure out a simple question about what cable length to use.
Those vary from couple of inches to a couple of meters. Lavry and/or
Nugent for sure have measured it and both of them are highly regarded
audio specialists. Both of them come up with an opposite
recommendation.
I could go on and on with examples of people fail to measure and to
nail down those SPDIF associated problems. It's obviously not that
easy.



Wrap Up:

Measurements are very valuable. No question about it.  Measurements do
show directions. Doing it right must be considered a (very costly) art
on its own. Measurements do fail to give an explanation for everything
out there, that's a fact. 


I highly recommend to read this 'this'
(http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=insights&content_id=11&pagestring=Do+Measurements+Matter)
article about what highly regarded audio manufacturers think about
measurements and the necessity of listening tests as the final
confirmation.

Enjoy.

Cheers


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Poll - Do you actually use the touch screen?

2011-01-27 Thread trouty00

I was just wondering how many people actually use the touchscreen on
there touch? I have a couple and to be honest never actually touch the
screen as its always controlled from ipeng/squeezecommander/Web Gui/ IR
remote.

I was wondering If I am alone here or a number of us are paying for
probably an expensive touch screen we dont use. 

I just think that the unit is pretty expensive compared to the radio
which i think is a bargain device.


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