Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-29 Thread Pascal Hibon

The SB Touch is a good match for audiophiles as well. Just use a good
external DAC and it can compete with the high end systems at a
significant lower cost. 
The user experience of the Squeezebox system is one of the best out
there. Once you used it there is no good alternative available.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-29 Thread steveinaz

I don't think so. These units are more geared for the audiophile wanting
a component style piece in their system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-28 Thread erland

steveinaz;673252 Wrote: 
> Marantz, NAD, Cambridge Audio, and Bryston all offer network players
> now--so let the chips fall where they may. I almost bought the
> Cambridge, but decided to "test the waters" at a lower cost, via
> Touch.
> 
> I'm running thru a Benchmark DAC/PRE and very satisified with the
> results so far. Santa is bringing a CI Audio power supply as well.
> 
Does any of them:
1. Also offer a player which is cheap and small with built-in speaker
which is suitable for placement in kitchen/bedroom ?
2. Is it realistic to believe that any new player they produce two
years in the future will be compatible and usable in the same system as
the one they produce today ?

Since I want a solution that works in the whole house, it's always
questions like these which makes me believe the current competitors
applicable for my setup are Logitech, Sonos and possibly Apple.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-28 Thread garym

steveinaz;673252 Wrote: 
> Marantz, NAD, Cambridge Audio, and Bryston all offer network players
> now--so let the chips fall where they may. I almost bought the
> Cambridge, but decided to "test the waters" at a lower cost, via
> Touch.
> 
> I'm running thru a Benchmark DAC/PRE and very satisified with the
> results so far. Santa is bringing a CI Audio power supply as well.

not familiar with all those other players, but the problems with some
other players (e.g., Linn in the past) have been that these usually
DLNA/UpNP devices and getting gapless playback or synched playback
across multiple players is either impossible or challenging (special
workarounds).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-28 Thread steveinaz

Marantz, NAD, Cambridge Audio, and Bryston all offer network players
now--so let the chips fall where they may. I almost bought the
Cambridge, but decided to "test the waters" at a lower cost, via
Touch.

I'm running thru a Benchmark DAC/PRE and very satisified with the
results so far. Santa is bringing a CI Audio power supply as well.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-28 Thread garym

jon michaels;673211 Wrote: 
> Just wondering if anyone from Logitech has chimed in on this thread?
> 
> It seems people are expressing concern with the future of the product
> line, and I'm sure we all hope that Logitech is committed to it's
> continuation, it might be reassuring if someone from Logitech could
> dispell our concerns. 
> 
> Absent that I'd have to assume there could be a reason - one we might
> not be happy to hear, or possibly just changes of some sort they're not
> ready to announce - they're not willing to?
> 
> We all love our Squeezeboxi (Squeezeboxen?) and want to see them around
> for a long time, especially with the increased pressure the PC audio
> market will put on the Squeeze platform.

as far as I know no one from logitech has EVER posted here to give us
any info, good or bad. there are a few software developers that post
here now and again, but not about new product development or lack
thereof.  So hearing nothing is not a signal of anything.  (p.s. in
fact, this is not even an official logitech forumthe logitech SB
forums are elsewhere, they just left this old slimdevices forum open
for users to talk with other users ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-28 Thread jon michaels

Just wondering if anyone from Logitech has chimed in on this thread?

It seems people are expressing concern with the future of the product
line, and I'm sure we all hope that Logitech is committed to it's
continuation, it might be reassuring if someone from Logitech could
dispell our concerns. 

Absent that I'd have to assume there could be a reason - one we might
not be happy to hear, or possibly just changes of some sort they're not
ready to announce - they're not willing to?

We all love our Squeezeboxi (Squeezeboxen?) and want to see them around
for a long time, especially with the increased pressure the PC audio
market will put on the Squeeze platform.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-27 Thread castalla

Fooled by the scrolly thingy!  Oops.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-27 Thread Kuben72

The touch is out of stock in Denmark too. But only on Logitechs own
website. The Radio however is in stock.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-27 Thread garym

aubuti;672996 Wrote: 
> It is now. In stock and discounted from $300 to $275 at the Logitech
> site. Are you sure you did the horizontal scroll thingy to show all
> listed products (including TP SE)? Also available at other US online
> retailers.

by the way, this is a really bad website design. I even know about the
horizontal scroll and often forget about it when on that page. Imagine
how many sales are missed because of awkward web formatting!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-27 Thread aubuti

castalla;672926 Wrote: 
> Not listed - USA
It is now. In stock and discounted from $300 to $275 at the Logitech
site. Are you sure you did the horizontal scroll thingy to show all
listed products (including TP SE)? Also available at other US online
retailers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-27 Thread toby10

Touch listed as in stock at numerous online stores in the US.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-27 Thread erland

castalla;672926 Wrote: 
> 
> Not listed - USA
> 
As far as I can see the Touch is both listed and in stock on the US
Logitech store, are you looking at somewhere else than on logitech.com
?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-27 Thread Mnyb

Fellow Swedes can find them at numerous online stores but logitech
themselfs are out of them.

http://www.pricerunner.se/pl/317-2561410/Radio/Logitech-Squeezebox-Touch-priser?ref=redirect&q=squeezebox%20touch&search=squeezebox%20touch&other_hits=346:squeezebox%20touch;;;&sort=4

So depending on pow it migth be time to get one extra (I have done
that)
Or simply be cool and wait for the next batch .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread castalla

Out of stock - Spain

Not listed - USA

???


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread erland

STEVESPUR;672906 Wrote: 
> Very interestingly since I started off this discussion 6 days ago, the
> Dixons Group stores have cleared out all their stock and Logitech (in
> the UK at least) have also run out of stock, whilst on-line stores
> (inc. Amazon) seem to have stock supply situations that come and go on
> a daily basis.
> 
> Does this suggest that the Touch manufacturing has ceased? - all the
> above stock scenarios are just the same as when the Duet + Boom were
> about to be discontinued.
> 
Looks a bit suspicions, there have been similar things happening
previously but then it has often only happened in one or two countries
but now it seems to be more wide spread. This all makes me think that I
really made the right decision when I purchased an extra Touch earlier
this week from my local store.

I guess there is a chance Logitech is about to release something new
that replaces it but there is also a chance they have decided to focus
on the cheaper Radio since that's likely a lot easier to sell to the
mass market compared to the Touch.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread STEVESPUR

Very interestingly since I started off this discussion 6 days ago, the
Dixons Group stores have cleared out all their stock and Logitech (in
the UK at least) have also run out of stock, whilst on-line stores
(inc. Amazon) seem to have stock supply situations that come and go on
a daily basis.

Does this suggest that the Touch manufacturing has ceased? - all the
above stock scenarios are just the same as when the Duet + Boom were
about to be discontinued.

SteveSpur


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread Mnyb

MeSue;672839 Wrote: 
> I would like a Touch with 'Microban' (http://www.microban.com/)®
> coating. Everything else seems to have it these days. :p

You think it keeps the bugs out of it :p


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread MeSue

I would like a Touch with 'Microban' (http://www.microban.com/)®
coating. Everything else seems to have it these days. :p


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread Mnyb

ordered yet another one from dustin.se at a good price 2200 sek compared
to the 3490 sek logitech fleeced me for thr first one.

There is a supply of Touch out there, but Logitech Sweden are out of
them .

Oh the two i have is of the lowly  ..89 variant, I'll keep slumming
with thoose.
The third one is very likely an 89 too.

How I'm ever to get the ink black background and 3d soundstage with
palpable midrange quality with my 40 year old fake hirez files from
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread bonze

mbg;672824 Wrote: 
> It actually a worse deal because they don't have to use as much ink to
> print a 1 vs 0maybe I should wait for 98 then?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread mbg

bonze;672739 Wrote: 
> Well I'm holding out for 930-91 that some are selling ;)

It actually a worse deal because they don't have to use as much ink to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread toby10

bonze;672739 Wrote: 
> Well I'm holding out for 930-91 that some are selling ;)

Well now, the 91 is a whole different story!  The rubber pad on the 91
Touch's base has been cryogenically treated for superior audio quality.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread bonze

Well I'm holding out for 930-91 that some are selling ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread toby10

Even then I don't think they have it quite right.  I'll bet 90 is simply
North America, not just Canada, as many US based retailers carry that
model.  Or maybe even just point of entry listing.  
UK showing that model is likely a typo or someone misread the P/N
listing or they may well share stock if/when needed, who knows.

Important thing is there is no hardware differences and you are getting
one sooner than later!   Enjoy.   :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-26 Thread gbcambridge

For those of you still enthralled by the discussion of the differences
between these models, the word from Logitech is as follows:


As we understand that you would like to know what is the differences 
between the Logitech Squeezebox Touch's part numbers. We will be more
than happy to help you with this concern. 

Part number 930-89 Squeezebox Touch EMEA

Part number 930-90 Squeezebox Touch CANADA

Still does not explain why Amazon UK are offering the 930-90 (at
some date in the future), but given PC world current price of approx.
£150 I think now is the time to buy one (any one!).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread garym

Cut-Throat;672397 Wrote: 
> From an 'Audiophile' perspective, I disagree that the touch DAC is very
> good. I am using SET amps and Horns, as do my friends. We found that
> the Touch DAC was not in a league to be listened to seriously. On a
> highly resolving Audio System the internal DAC of the touch was really
> quite awful. The biggest single improvement for the SBT is getting a
> Quality DAC. This alone let me get rid of my Expensive Tube CD player.

Agree on the best improvement to a TOUCH is a quality DAC. By very good
DAC in the touch, I mean very good for a device that cost me $209.  I
don't mean "very good" across all price points. I mean very good as
part of a music player that costs < $300.  I certainly think my
Benchmark DAC I or my TRANSPORTER DAC are both in a different (better)
league. As I would hope given they cost $1,000 to $1,500 more.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread Cut-Throat

garym;672395 Wrote: 
> 
> p.s. take the discussions about improvements with soundcheck mods and
> powersupplies, and better ethernet cables, etc. with a grain of salt.
> Be particularly leery of the "oh my god, the heavens have opened up and
> I've never heard the music sound this good before." The touch DAC is
> very good, but there are certainly better DACs than the TOUCH.

I always take the Audiophile comments with a grain of salt. With that
said, I own 3 SBTs and have A/Bd the Soundcheck mods and I hear an
improvement, so they are staying in my main rig. The improvement that I
hear is like a 'veil lifted from the music'. Can't say I heard much of a
difference with the power supply.

>From an 'Audiophile' perspective, I disagree that the touch DAC is very
good. I am using SET amps and Horns, as do my friends. We found that the
Touch DAC was not in a league to be listened to seriously. On a highly
resolving Audio System the internal DAC of the touch was really quite
awful. The biggest single improvement for the SBT is getting a Quality
DAC. This alone let me get rid of my Expensive Tube CD player.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread garym

Cut-Throat;672392 Wrote: 
> Yes, I have heard about the Transporter. But I would like many products
> to choose from. A lot of competition in this area will breed better
> products and maybe some features that I have not thought of yet.
> 
> I believe I heard that some folks were getting better results with
> their SB Touch units, after they used a separate power supply, quality
> DAC, SOundchecks Mods. So I think that there is room for improvement
> over the transporter.

There's (almost) always room for improvement in products. All my
current stuff is better that what I had in 1969.  ;-)   And of course
my bank account has improved since then too In my case, I would not
swap my Transporter for any of the much more expensive Linn networked
music players.

p.s. take the discussions about improvements with soundcheck mods and
powersupplies, and better ethernet cables, etc. with a grain of salt.
Be particularly leery of the "oh my god, the heavens have opened up and
I've never heard the music sound this good before." The touch DAC is
very good, but there are certainly better DACs than the TOUCH.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread Cut-Throat

garym;672391 Wrote: 
> Except for the internal DAC, you've described the TRANSPORTER.  And I'll
> say that I used to use the Benchmark DAC I, but moved it elsewhere as I
> like the internal DAC in the transporter as much or better.

Yes, I have heard about the Transporter. But I would like many products
to choose from. A lot of competition in this area will breed better
products and maybe some features that I have not thought of yet.

I believe I heard that some folks were getting better results with
their SB Touch units, after they used a separate power supply, quality
DAC, SOundchecks Mods. So I think that there is room for improvement
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread garym

Cut-Throat;672390 Wrote: 
> I am looking forward to the day when a lot of Audio Companies start
> making a SBT like Device with only the high-end Audiophile in mind. At
> a competitive price. (Not an Oxymoron entirely, I am thinking around
> $1-$2 Grand) 
> 
> Features like the following.
> 
> 1.) Sound quality is the First Priority.
> 2.) Separate quality Power supply.
> 3.) Software that doesn't need the Soundcheck toolbox mods.
> 4.) Hardware that doesn't need Boulder Cable Mods
> 5.) Multiple Digital and Optical outputs.
> 6.) No Internal DAC
> 
> I'll buy one and keep the SBTs for my 'Secondary Systems' and
> traveling.

Except for the internal DAC, you've described the TRANSPORTER.  And
I'll say that I used to use the Benchmark DAC I, but moved it elsewhere
as I like the internal DAC in the transporter as much or better.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread Cut-Throat

I am looking forward to the day when a lot of Audio Companies start
making a SBT like Device with only the high-end Audiophile in mind. At
a competitive price. (Not an Oxymoron entirely, I am thinking around
$1-$2 Grand) 

Features like the following.

1.) Sound quality is the First Priority.
2.) Separate quality Power supply.
3.) Software that doesn't need the Soundcheck toolbox mods.
4.) Hardware that doesn't need Boulder Cable Mods
5.) Multiple Digital and Optical outputs.
6.) No Internal DAC

I'll buy one and keep the SBTs for my 'Secondary Systems' and
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread garym

toby10;672359 Wrote: 
> Wait if you want, but I'm telling you there is nothing new about Touch
> model # 930-90, this exact model # has been sold in the US for a
> while and from numerous different vendors.  ;)

+1, you'll be waiting for nothing. there are NO differences related to
these model numbers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread Mnyb

Chuckle , now all audiophiles must have the Canuck version :)

Seriusly they probaly spent thier smallish dev budget , if it is
different it may be a random change in components by the manufacturerer
in china  ( such things happens, often without the knowledge of the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread toby10

gbcambridge;672342 Wrote: 
> ... All I can say right now is that there is some confusion and
> still a lack of hard information. I expect  930-90 to be available
> in the UK but when seems to be open. Hence I doubt that internally it
> will the same as previous models in spite of advice to the contrary. My
> purchase is on hold until I can get seem definitive information

Wait if you want, but I'm telling you there is nothing new about Touch
model # 930-90, this exact model # has been sold in the US for a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-24 Thread gbcambridge

tusken;671934 Wrote: 
> as stated in the earlier post - there is no difference in features ,and
> certainly no upgrade to the original/standard touch model. I doubt you
> will find a review of the "new" model number as there is nothing
> different and hence no need for a fresh review.
> 
> by the way - where did you see the touch for sale at richer sounds? -
> and for how much? its not on their website. Im looking at getting a
> second
> 
> im not the first person on this thread to say that ,so this should tell
> you something!

Hi,
well further to this exciting topic, I note that Amazon in the UK  at
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Squeezebox-Touch-Network-player/dp/B002LARRDA/ref=pd_ys_qtk_wl_img?ie=UTF8&coliid=IIJJH01IXNP8F&colid=2SM1BUK7T1CG5&pf_rd_p=217325491&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_t=1501&pf_rd_i=home&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0RAHWEMMW9Y7AAV7DHCK
are offering a model  930-90.
Sadly so far, it is only available for a wish-list inclusion and they
claim to have in stock just one of the earlier model number. So, it
appears that it will be for sale in the UK, if Amazon UK is to be
believed. This seems to be contrary to what i was told recently, that
this model number was exclusively for Canada (according to Logitech
UK). All I can say right now is that there is some confusion and still
a lack of hard information. I expect  930-90 to be available in the
UK but when seems to be open. Hence I doubt that internally it will the
same as previous models in spite of advice to the contrary. My purchase
is on hold until I can get seem definitive information


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-23 Thread fphredd

You need one of these...

http://www.cdrecordingsoftware.com/p1173431566/MF-Digital-Ripstation-DP6-7602-2-Drive/product_info.html

made my life a lot easier...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-23 Thread steveinaz

Nah, the worst part about going "computer" with music is the ripping of
all the CD's. After that, it's gravy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-23 Thread erland

Squeezemenicely;672028 Wrote: 
> Why all this doom and gloom?
> 
Some people have pretty much said Squeezebox is doomed since Logitech
took over back in 2006, but they are still sold and I can even purchase
them in all my local home electronics stores in north Sweden, something
that definitely wasn't possible at all back in 2006.

Both Touch and Radio are both the best Squeezeboxes I've ever owned, so
even though I sometimes also worry myself, it's still a bit strange to
worry about the best streaming device available on the market...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-23 Thread ghostrider

gbcambridge;671937 Wrote: 
> Hi Toby,
> I have "Googled" until I am blue in the face.  I get loads of
> "personal" reviews.. like "I am really pleased... etc., etc."   What I
> am looking for is a more objective functional evaluation. So far I have
> not found anything. Perhaps someone in this forum can enlighten me on
> this?

http://www.stereophile.com/content/logitech-squeezebox-touch-network-music-player


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread Percival Sweetwater

Touch at Richer Sounds:
http://www.richersounds.com/showclearanceproduct/LOGI-SQUEEZEBX-TOUCH/Logitech+Squeezebox+Touch.html


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread castalla

I continually advise others hanging on to their flaky Recivas
(especially with BBC listen again) to cut teir losses and buy a
Logitech radio or Touch.

The Touch is the best streaming device bar none.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread Squeezemenicely

Why all this doom and gloom?
I think the Squeezeboxes have a bright future. Logitech is still taking
care of the software and the Touch is definitely a great product. As
many people are beginning to transition from physical to digital media
and services like Spotify growing, the market is just about to get
interesting for Logitech.
Yes they do not really promote them and and since they discontinued the
Boom, there is no stereo device with speakers - but I hope they will
bring out some new stuff soon.
It would be crazy giving up now, the niche market has only just begun
to grow.
Logitech are there to make money, so why should they leave the cake to
others?

I believe that (when the server software runs without probs) the Touch
is the best little streaming device on the market. I am not giving up
hope and have my fingers crossed...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread toby10

gbcambridge;671937 Wrote: 
> Hi Toby,
> I have "Googled" until I am blue in the face.  I get loads of
> "personal" reviews.. like "I am really pleased... etc., etc."   What I
> am looking for is a more objective functional evaluation. So far I have
> not found anything. Perhaps someone in this forum can enlighten me on
> this?

Not sure this is what you are looking for but

The Touch's DAC is quite good, especially at this price point. In fact
many compare the Touch's DAC to standalone DAC's costing three times
what the Touch costs. There is also an interesting and recent
comparison of digital audio devices in the Sept 2011 issue of Hi-Fi
Choice Magazine (Great Britain). In a blind listening test the Touch
won out over other devices in the test, the other devices costing from
1.5 times as much to almost 6 times as much. Pricing from the article
is in British pounds.

SqueezeBox Touch at £239
Cambridge Audio Sonata NP30 at £400
Marantz NA7004 at £600
Rotel RDG-1520 at £795
Yamaha NP-S2000 at £1,400 
Cyrus StreamX at £1,400


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread toby10

gbcambridge;671937 Wrote: 
> Hi Toby,
> I have "Googled" until I am blue in the face.  I get loads of
> "personal" reviews.. like "I am really pleased... etc., etc."   What I
> am looking for is a more objective functional evaluation. So far I have
> not found anything. Perhaps someone in this forum can enlighten me on
> this?

Not really sure what you are asking for here.  :(

All I can suggest is:
1.  Try Amazon US reviews (if you can), there are some very critical
comments in some of them
2.  Read this Touch thread, there are many critical comments about
certain aspects and functions


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread JJZolx

The future of the Squeezebox is nil. Why would anyone be touchy about
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread gbcambridge

Hi Toby,
I have "Googled" until I am blue in the face.  I get loads of
"personal" reviews.. like "I am really pleased... etc., etc."   What I
am looking for is a more objective functional evaluation. So far I have
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread tusken

as stated in the earlier post - there is no difference in features ,and
certainly no upgrade to the original/standard touch model. I doubt you
will find a review of the "new" model number as there is nothing
different and hence no need for a fresh review.

by the way - where did you see the touch for sale at richer sounds? -
and for how much? its not on their website. Im looking at getting a
second

im not the first person on this thread to say that ,so this should tell
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread toby10

Just google Logitech 930-90, I get tons of hits including Amazon and
OverStock.com.  My Touch is 930-40, it's the same player as
930-90, just different production runs.  
Any/all reviews of the Touch will suffice, it's the same thing,
disregard the model # and just enjoy the music.  ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread gbcambridge

toby10;671927 Wrote: 
> The 930-90 model # has been for sale for a while, nothing new.  It
> is just a later production run of the stock Touch.  
> If you are waiting for that model # thinking you are going to be
> getting anything not offered in the 930-89 model, you will be
> waiting for nothing and quite disappointed.  ;)

Hi,

Is there anywhere that you can suggest I look for a proper review of
the features of the new Touch model 930-90?  If there really are no
improvements I can just buy the earlier model tomorrow. Naively I was
assuming the technology had moved on from model 930-89, hence the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread toby10

gbcambridge;671924 Wrote: 
> Hi,
> I note that Amazon (UK) are shipping the Logitech Touch model number
> 930-89 for around £190 However, they are also listing the next
> model, the 930-90 but with an unknown delivery date. This explains
> why there are so many expensive Touch devices on eBay from the US as
> these new devices have been on sale over there for a while.
> 
> I have no idea when the new device (930-90) will be on sale here
> but I would caution anyone about to buy a Touch.. the prices should get
> even lower as the release date for the new model approaches.

The 930-90 model # has been for sale for a while, nothing new.  It
is just a later production run of the stock Touch.  
If you are waiting for that model # thinking you are going to be
getting anything not offered in the 930-89 model, you will be
waiting for nothing and quite disappointed.  ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-22 Thread gbcambridge

Hi,
I note that Amazon (UK) are shipping the Logitech Touch model number
930-89 for around £190 However, they are also listing the next
model, the 930-90 but with an unknown delivery date. This explains
why there are so many expensive Touch devices on eBay from the US as
these new devices have been on sale over there for a while.

I have no idea when the new device (930-90) will be on sale here
but I would caution anyone about to buy a Touch.. the prices should get
even lower as the release date for the new model approaches.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-21 Thread garym

Mnyb;671902 Wrote: 
> He , you just inspired me to get another Touch :)
> 
> I've got a reciever and one SB3 stored already

;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-21 Thread Mnyb

garym;671866 Wrote: 
> Couldn't agree more on the music backups. that's my most critical issue.
> I personally have some extra TOUCH units, just because I'm particulary
> fond of the synch ability, etc.  So I'd prefer to replace a dead unit
> (transporter or touch) with another SB player if I could, even if no
> longer supported by logitech. (and the $209 I paid for my last new
> TOUCH is much less than I spent on CDs last month.)  Of course all this
> is in the short to medium term. I'm sure 10 or 20 years from now, it
> will all be something different(but the need to have my digital
> files will be important no matter what system I might migrate to in the
> future).

He , you just inspired me to get another Touch :)

I've got a reciever and one SB3 stored already


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-21 Thread garym

mlsstl;671863 Wrote: 
> Second, nothing Logitech does or doesn't do will affect my music
> collection. There are many other players available that will stream
> music from my hard drive. (It's far more important that I maintain
> backups than keep an extra Squeezebox around.) 

Couldn't agree more on the music backups. that's my most critical
issue.  I personally have some extra TOUCH units, just because I'm
particulary fond of the synch ability, etc.  So I'd prefer to replace a
dead unit (transporter or touch) with another SB player if I could, even
if no longer supported by logitech. (and the $209 I paid for my last new
TOUCH is much less than I spent on CDs last month.)  Of course all this
is in the short to medium term. I'm sure 10 or 20 years from now, it
will all be something different(but the need to have my digital
files will be important no matter what system I might migrate to in the
future).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-21 Thread mlsstl

I've been a Squeezebox user for almost 10 years, dating back to the
original SliMP3. I currently have a Touch, a SB3, a Radio and a
Controller. 

While I really like them and think they are a great music source, if
Logitech discontinued them tomorrow, I'd certainly give them a moment
of silence out of respect, but then life would go on. 

First, most of the units in the field are going to keep working for a
long time. Used ones will continue to be in circulation if you feel
strongly about adding another unit or replacing one. (Look at all the
old tube amps and even Victrolas still in circulation after 50 to 100
years!) 

Second, nothing Logitech does or doesn't do will affect my music
collection. There are many other players available that will stream
music from my hard drive. (It's far more important that I maintain
backups than keep an extra Squeezebox around.) 

So, yes, they have a fine product and I'd like to see them keep making
it, but it's not the end of the world if they do the corporate thing
and move in a different direction.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touchy about the future?

2011-11-21 Thread garym

There's no way of actually knowing the answer. Logitech has never really
done serious marketing o f SB players in actual stores in the us. So
lack of this is not really a sign of anything. 

This said, I actually bought two spare touch units as back up just in
case I need them (no longer made or replacement not as good as touch).
My SB players and sbs or Lms can work for decades even if Logitech goes
out of business tomorrow.


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Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver
Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD &
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