Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico

2011-01-14 Thread Ricardo Stock

Se eu entendi o que vc quer, seria algo assim.

Usuário  logou, abre uma janela com informação.

voce pode fazer da seguinte forma. no profile do usuário colocar um script 
em perl/tk que abre uma janela. Não sei se é essa a solução, mas seria um 
ajuste técnico para nao dizer gambiarra. Mas acho que seria uma solução.


Segue um script, lembrando que voce deve ter o modulo tk instalado na 
maquina.


copie o codigo em algum lugar com o nome_ que_quiser.pl.
de permissão 755 no mesmo
para verificar se o modulo esta instaldo digite perl -c -w 
nome_que_quiser.pl

se a sintaxe for ok, basta falar como disse acima.

para instalar o modulo, como root, digite no shell
cpan
install Tk

se tiver duvidas, volte a postar.
ah, para pular linhas, use um \n

===codigo==
#!/usr/bin/perl

use warnings;
use strict;

use Tk;
my  $mw = MainWindow-new;
$mw-title(Mensagem ao Usuário);
$mw-Label(-text=Escreva aqui sua mensagem.\n . clique em Exit para 
sair)-pack;


$mw-Button(-text=Exit,
   -command= sub{exit})-pack(-side='bottom',
   -expand=1,
   -fill='x');

MainLoop;


===/codigo==

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Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico


Pessoal,


Boa tarde,


Estava querendo que um script/aplicação que foi inicializado no boot da 
estação,

fosse possível abrir um popup no ambiente gráfico do usuário que estivesse
logado na máquina.

Resumidamente é como seu eu logado no ambiente gráfico desse la um 
Crtl+Alt+F1

logasse com um usuário qualquer depois digitasse la:

$ xmessage oi

e essa tela apresentasse no ambiente gráfico

Já tentei definir a variável DISPLAY para:

DISPLAY=:0.0
DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0

Editei o /etc/gdm/gdm.schemas mudando o DisallowTCP para false

   schema
 keysecurity/DisallowTCP/key
 signatureb/signature
 defaultfalse/default
   /schema


E nada.

É possível realizar o que estou querendo ?

Ha estou usando o ubuntu 10.4


Desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.




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[Ubuntu-BR] Mias uma vez seguindo tutorial dá erro no Libreoffice.

2011-01-14 Thread Renato Alvim
enato@ubuntu:~$ sudo wget
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc2/deb/x86_64
--2011-01-14 20:54:48--
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc2/deb/x86_64
Resolvendo download.documentfoundation.org... 178.63.91.70
Conectando-se a download.documentfoundation.org|178.63.91.70|:80...
conectado.
A requisição HTTP foi enviada, aguardando resposta... 404 Not Found


2011-01-14 20:54:49 ERRO 404: Not Found.

Nada funciona!
Impressionante...



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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dell Optiplex 360

2011-01-14 Thread Zandre Bran
2011/1/14 Ávila . genin...@gmail.com:
 Por aqui muita agua, mas está tudo bem obrigado.

Ôlas Ávila; coloca água nisto. Somos todos navegantes :)

 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic
 root=UUID=9a0731d6-de74-40f0-8d90-acc0bc9e2264 ro reboot=b

 Então como faria esta mudança no .cfg???

Em /etc/default/grub na linha GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT deve
funcionar. Por favor, testa aí e dá um retorno.

 Abraços a todos.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico

2011-01-14 Thread Zandre Bran
2011/1/14 Juliano Freire Ribeiro jucafribe...@gmail.com:

Ôlas Juliano.

 O comando write deixa fazer isso. No terminal digite write user [tty] e
 dê enter. Aí é só escrever as mensagens. Pra saber quem está logado na
 máquina e em que tty use who ou w.

Por favor, você ou alguém poderia me dizer qual a finalidade de
exibir uma mensagem na mesma máquina logada em tempo real para outro
usuário da mesma máquina? Eu não estou conseguindo entender.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico

2011-01-14 Thread Ricardo Stock

se voce quiser melhorar mais ainda...

voce pode fazer uma conexão com um banco, e selecionar uma mensagem 
diferente a ser enviada, editar a mesma ou colocar sempre mensagens novas, 
ou mesmo selecionar por usuário uma determinada mensagem, ou seja as 
possibilidades são infinitas, vai da sua criatividade :-)



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To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico


Se eu entendi o que vc quer, seria algo assim.

Usuário  logou, abre uma janela com informação.

voce pode fazer da seguinte forma. no profile do usuário colocar um script
em perl/tk que abre uma janela. Não sei se é essa a solução, mas seria um
ajuste técnico para nao dizer gambiarra. Mas acho que seria uma solução.

Segue um script, lembrando que voce deve ter o modulo tk instalado na
maquina.

copie o codigo em algum lugar com o nome_ que_quiser.pl.
de permissão 755 no mesmo
para verificar se o modulo esta instaldo digite perl -c -w
nome_que_quiser.pl
se a sintaxe for ok, basta falar como disse acima.

para instalar o modulo, como root, digite no shell
cpan
install Tk

se tiver duvidas, volte a postar.
ah, para pular linhas, use um \n

===codigo==
#!/usr/bin/perl

use warnings;
use strict;

use Tk;
my  $mw = MainWindow-new;
$mw-title(Mensagem ao Usuário);
$mw-Label(-text=Escreva aqui sua mensagem.\n . clique em Exit para
sair)-pack;

$mw-Button(-text=Exit,
   -command= sub{exit})-pack(-side='bottom',
   -expand=1,
   -fill='x');

MainLoop;


===/codigo==

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From: Bruno Viana bruno_...@yahoo.com.br

To: ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico


Pessoal,


Boa tarde,


Estava querendo que um script/aplicação que foi inicializado no boot da
estação,
fosse possível abrir um popup no ambiente gráfico do usuário que estivesse
logado na máquina.

Resumidamente é como seu eu logado no ambiente gráfico desse la um
Crtl+Alt+F1
logasse com um usuário qualquer depois digitasse la:

$ xmessage oi

e essa tela apresentasse no ambiente gráfico

Já tentei definir a variável DISPLAY para:

DISPLAY=:0.0
DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0

Editei o /etc/gdm/gdm.schemas mudando o DisallowTCP para false

   schema
 keysecurity/DisallowTCP/key
 signatureb/signature
 defaultfalse/default
   /schema


E nada.

É possível realizar o que estou querendo ?

Ha estou usando o ubuntu 10.4


Desde já agradeço a atenção de todos.




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Mias uma vez seguindo tutorial dá erro no Libreoffice.

2011-01-14 Thread Zandre Bran
2011/1/14 Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.com:

Ôlas Renato.

 enato@ubuntu:~$ sudo wget
 http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc2/deb/x86_64
 --2011-01-14 20:54:48--
[...] A requisição HTTP foi enviada, aguardando resposta... 404 Not Found

Não compreendi porque está usando sudo para um wget? Enfim, veja aqui:

http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc3/deb/x86_64/

Aí é só pegar o nome do arquivo que quer e acrescentar na url, tipo:

http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc3/deb/x86_64/LibO_3.3.0rc3_Linux_x86-64_helppack-deb_pt-BR.tar.gz

Daí, fica fácil fazer a requisição pelo wget:

wget 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-rc3/deb/x86_64/LibO_3.3.0rc3_Linux_x86-64_helppack-deb_pt-BR.tar.gz

É isto?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico

2011-01-14 Thread Zandre Bran
2011/1/14 Ricardo Stock ricardost...@bol.com.br:

Ôlas Ricardo.

[...] voce pode fazer uma conexão com um banco, e selecionar uma mensagem
 diferente a ser enviada, editar a mesma ou colocar sempre mensagens novas 
 [...]

O GNU/Linux utiliza o exim4 para envio de mensagens do sistema
para o usuário. Então nada impede que possa-se usa-lo. também, para
enviar mensagens entre usuários. Outro muito usado também no GNU/Linux
é o postfix. Cabe um pequeno estudo aqui para envio de mensagens
internas entre usuários da rede ou da mesma máquina usando os famosos
exim4 ou postfix.

 [...]ou seja as
 possibilidades são infinitas, vai da sua criatividade :-)

Sim, perfeito. Mas neste caso então pelo que estou entendo não é
necessário reescrever a roda :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Exibir tela no ambiente gráfico

2011-01-14 Thread Juliano Freire Ribeiro
Ôlas Zandre.

Por algumas vezes eu estava logado em algum servidor no qual meu chefe ou
outro usuário também estava. Quando precisei, usei o write para enviar uma
mensagem simples, perguntar alguma coisa etc, tipo um chat local. Na época
foi o jeito mais simples que eu achei de me comunicar com alguém que está
utilizando a mesma máquina que eu remotamente (isso na falta de um msn ou
gtalk né, rs)

abraços

Em 14 de janeiro de 2011 21:22, Zandre Bran zandreb...@ubuntu.comescreveu:

 2011/1/14 Juliano Freire Ribeiro jucafribe...@gmail.com:

Ôlas Juliano.

  O comando write deixa fazer isso. No terminal digite write user [tty]
 e
  dê enter. Aí é só escrever as mensagens. Pra saber quem está logado na
  máquina e em que tty use who ou w.

 Por favor, você ou alguém poderia me dizer qual a finalidade de
 exibir uma mensagem na mesma máquina logada em tempo real para outro
 usuário da mesma máquina? Eu não estou conseguindo entender.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] off topic - obsolescência programada

2011-01-14 Thread Vinícius Oliveira Godoy
Acabei de comprar uma impressora nova pq simplesmente não encontrava 
tinta para a antiga que não deve ter mais de 6 ou 7 anos (Epson T33).

É um absurdo.
Mas também é uma questão complexa, já que esta nossa sanha consumista 
tem também como consequência geração de empregos, crescimento econômico, 
avanço tecnológico e até mesmo diminuição dos preços do que consumimos.
Ainda não vi todo o documentário, mas ele pode ser um exemplo disto 
mesmo. Parece ter sido feito com uma câmera digital que, por conta do 
consumismo e do desenvolvimento tecnológico, não custa mais de 1000 
dólares hoje em dia - lembram quanto custava uma câmera com recursos 
semelhantes e inferiores há 20 anos? :)
Um problema maior ainda é o de como incluir os 3/4 da população mundial 
que não tem acesso ao bens de consumo - obsolescidos ou não. E o fato 
desta inclusão (necessária) ser ecologicamente insustentável (aliás, 
seria ecologicamente insustentável até mesmo o consumo de carne por toda 
a população mundial - algo dramático!).
Será que o desenvolvimento tecnológico (gerado pelo consumo) não 
encontrará a resposta a essas questões?

Enfim... tenho mais dúvidas do que respostas para tais problemas.

Abs
Vinícius.

On 14-01-2011 18:32, nethell wrote:

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:56:11 -0300
Gisele Neulsgisele.ne...@gmail.com  wrote:

Pessoal
Hj recebi um link pra um documentário feito na Espanha sobre obsolescência
programada que tem um pouco a ver com a gente, porque trata de coisas como
nosso lixo eletrônico por exemplo. Compartilho com vocês porque achei super
interessante. Tem 52 min e está em espanhol.
Se aqui no Brasil há grupos estudando como consertar coisas que param de
funcionar por motivos estúpidos como a impressora deste documentário, eu
adoraria descobrir. Vale uma boa pauta. Sei des iniciativas de
metarreciclagem, que vai na mesma linha, mas isso é um pouquinho diferente.
Espero que gostem. Se o link quebrar, e só copiar tudo que está entre as
tags e colar no navegador.
http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos/20110109/comprar-tirar-comprar/983391.shtml
saludos
Gisele

Isto está presente em quase tudo que consumimos, eletro domésticos, móveis, 
roupas, utensilios, produtos de limpza, cosméticos, etc.
Aceitem ou não, a culpa é nossa. Consumimos muito e desmedidamente, por 
qualquer motivo.
Consertar isso só depende de uma consciência coletiva, mais nada. Comprar o 
necessário e sermos qualitativos ao escolher.
Enquanto agirmos como gafanhotos, seremos alvos dos pesticidas ;)




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dell Optiplex 360

2011-01-14 Thread Ávila .
Em 14 de janeiro de 2011 21:19, Zandre Bran zandreb...@ubuntu.comescreveu:

 2011/1/14 Ávila . genin...@gmail.com:
  Por aqui muita agua, mas está tudo bem obrigado.

 Ôlas Ávila; coloca água nisto. Somos todos navegantes :)

Hehehe


  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic
  root=UUID=9a0731d6-de74-40f0-8d90-acc0bc9e2264 ro reboot=b
 
  Então como faria esta mudança no .cfg???

 Em /etc/default/grub na linha GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT deve
 funcionar. Por favor, testa aí e dá um retorno.

Isso é com o Paulo Correia, pegou essa Paulo? Siga o mestre. xD
E reporte para nós o resultado.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF] Tragédia em Nova Friburgo - RJ

2011-01-14 Thread Bruno Barros
Estou passando pela mesma situação em Teresópolis e muitos amigos estão doando. 
Precisamos que a ajude chegue rápido, ou não tem sentido.
A ajuda presencial é a melhor !
sds,

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On 14/01/2011, at 18:49, nethell wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:55:47 -0200
 Leonardo Medeiros leona...@medeiros.inf.br wrote:
 
 Pessoal, repostando o que nosso colega Égio divulgou no Tchê Linux. Peço que
 leiam o artigo no final.
 Em 14 de janeiro de 2011 17:44, Elgio Schlemer  escreveu:
 Assunto off, por isto peço que resistam a tentação e não polemizem.
 Estávamos todos preocupados com o Fábio Berbert de Paula, mantenedor do Viva
 o Linux.
 O Fábio se hospedou na minha casa quando veio ao FISL este ano.
 Tentei ligar para ele diversas vezes e nada.
 NOTA: ele mora em nova friburgo.
 Hoje ele conseguiu contato dizendo que está bem e deixou um artigo não
 técnico no site:
 http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/Tragedia-em-Nova-Friburgo-RJ/
 
 Colaborar é fundamental, mas pesem a idoneidade de quem está se oferecendo 
 para receber doações. 
 A tragédia maior (que já presenciei e denunciei ao menos em duas ocasiões) é 
 ver essas doações passarem por uma triagem e serem desviadas sem qualquer 
 escrúpulo por pessoas (se é que podem ser consideradas como tal) incubidas da 
 separação, do transporte e, acreditem, da entrega. 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] off topic - obsolescência programada

2011-01-14 Thread Gisele Neuls
oi, Vinícius

A gente não vai resolver o problema da insustentabilidade de nosso modelo de
desenvolvimento apegados a ideia atual do que é desenvolvimento. A economia
movimentada com a obsolescência programada só é vantajosa porque não
contabiliza os passivos socioambientais. Será preciso uma outra forma de
compreender a economia e calcular o valor das coisas. A mudança para um
padrão de desenvolvimento que se atenha aos limites ecossistêmicos do
planeta não significa não consumir, mas repensar o consumo.

Ah, isso dá uma looonga conversa, mas não tenho certeza se esta lista é
espaço para isto. Não me deem corda que eu vou longe ;)

Nethel, adorei sua frase sobre gafanhotos e pesticidas, com sua permissão,
vou usar!

Gi


Em 14 de janeiro de 2011 22:07, Vinícius Oliveira Godoy
vogo...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Acabei de comprar uma impressora nova pq simplesmente não encontrava tinta
 para a antiga que não deve ter mais de 6 ou 7 anos (Epson T33).
 É um absurdo.
 Mas também é uma questão complexa, já que esta nossa sanha consumista tem
 também como consequência geração de empregos, crescimento econômico, avanço
 tecnológico e até mesmo diminuição dos preços do que consumimos.
 Ainda não vi todo o documentário, mas ele pode ser um exemplo disto mesmo.
 Parece ter sido feito com uma câmera digital que, por conta do consumismo e
 do desenvolvimento tecnológico, não custa mais de 1000 dólares hoje em dia -
 lembram quanto custava uma câmera com recursos semelhantes e inferiores há
 20 anos? :)
 Um problema maior ainda é o de como incluir os 3/4 da população mundial que
 não tem acesso ao bens de consumo - obsolescidos ou não. E o fato desta
 inclusão (necessária) ser ecologicamente insustentável (aliás, seria
 ecologicamente insustentável até mesmo o consumo de carne por toda a
 população mundial - algo dramático!).
 Será que o desenvolvimento tecnológico (gerado pelo consumo) não encontrará
 a resposta a essas questões?
 Enfim... tenho mais dúvidas do que respostas para tais problemas.

 Abs
 Vinícius.


 On 14-01-2011 18:32, nethell wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:56:11 -0300
 Gisele Neulsgisele.ne...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Pessoal
 Hj recebi um link pra um documentário feito na Espanha sobre
 obsolescência
 programada que tem um pouco a ver com a gente, porque trata de coisas
 como
 nosso lixo eletrônico por exemplo. Compartilho com vocês porque achei
 super
 interessante. Tem 52 min e está em espanhol.
 Se aqui no Brasil há grupos estudando como consertar coisas que param de
 funcionar por motivos estúpidos como a impressora deste documentário, eu
 adoraria descobrir. Vale uma boa pauta. Sei des iniciativas de
 metarreciclagem, que vai na mesma linha, mas isso é um pouquinho
 diferente.
 Espero que gostem. Se o link quebrar, e só copiar tudo que está entre as
 tags e colar no navegador.

 http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos/20110109/comprar-tirar-comprar/983391.shtml
 saludos
 Gisele

 Isto está presente em quase tudo que consumimos, eletro domésticos,
 móveis, roupas, utensilios, produtos de limpza, cosméticos, etc.
 Aceitem ou não, a culpa é nossa. Consumimos muito e desmedidamente, por
 qualquer motivo.
 Consertar isso só depende de uma consciência coletiva, mais nada. Comprar
 o necessário e sermos qualitativos ao escolher.
 Enquanto agirmos como gafanhotos, seremos alvos dos pesticidas ;)



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[Ubuntu-BR] off topic - efeitos no Beamer

2011-01-14 Thread T Branquinho

Grupo,

É possível fazer transições de slides através do beamer (Tex) conforme o video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fLQg5hFQQg
E gráficos sendo construídos no próprio slide conforme o video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W79OMarRy_Qfeature=related

Obs.: a transição por perspectiva é a melhor!

Caso seja possível e alguém tiver o código poderia compartilhar?

No mais agradeço

  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] audio do skype não funciona

2011-01-14 Thread Gisele Neuls
oi, pessoal

Vou encerrar esse tópico por aqui, não consegui consertar sozinha mesmo, mas
por enquanto dá pra viver com isso. Vou procurar o técnico que eu confio
quando for a Porto Alegre no final de fevereiro pra arrumar pra mim.

Valeu
Gisele


Em 13 de janeiro de 2011 17:35, Zandre Bran zandreb...@ubuntu.comescreveu:

 2011/1/11 Gisele Neuls gisele.ne...@gmail.com:

Ôlas Gisele.

  Feito, mas ainda com problemas.
  Agora eu ouço a voz da chamada de teste, mas não a minha própria depois.

 Então é problema no seu microfone. Já o testou em Sistema,
 Preferencias, Som... Aqui sempre tenho que mudar meu microfone no
 sistema para que funcione no skype.

  Gisele

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] off topic - obsolescência programada

2011-01-14 Thread Vinícius Oliveira Godoy

Sem dúvida, não é aqui o espaço pra essa discussão.
Só quis apontar o quanto esse problema é mais complexo do que às vezes 
pensamos e que não possui ainda soluções em âmbito global sustentáveis.

Minhas desculpas por ter desviado das questões da lista.

Vinícius.

On 14-01-2011 23:40, Gisele Neuls wrote:

oi, Vinícius

A gente não vai resolver o problema da insustentabilidade de nosso modelo de
desenvolvimento apegados a ideia atual do que é desenvolvimento. A economia
movimentada com a obsolescência programada só é vantajosa porque não
contabiliza os passivos socioambientais. Será preciso uma outra forma de
compreender a economia e calcular o valor das coisas. A mudança para um
padrão de desenvolvimento que se atenha aos limites ecossistêmicos do
planeta não significa não consumir, mas repensar o consumo.

Ah, isso dá uma looonga conversa, mas não tenho certeza se esta lista é
espaço para isto. Não me deem corda que eu vou longe ;)

Nethel, adorei sua frase sobre gafanhotos e pesticidas, com sua permissão,
vou usar!

Gi


Em 14 de janeiro de 2011 22:07, Vinícius Oliveira Godoy
vogo...@gmail.comescreveu:


Acabei de comprar uma impressora nova pq simplesmente não encontrava tinta
para a antiga que não deve ter mais de 6 ou 7 anos (Epson T33).
É um absurdo.
Mas também é uma questão complexa, já que esta nossa sanha consumista tem
também como consequência geração de empregos, crescimento econômico, avanço
tecnológico e até mesmo diminuição dos preços do que consumimos.
Ainda não vi todo o documentário, mas ele pode ser um exemplo disto mesmo.
Parece ter sido feito com uma câmera digital que, por conta do consumismo e
do desenvolvimento tecnológico, não custa mais de 1000 dólares hoje em dia -
lembram quanto custava uma câmera com recursos semelhantes e inferiores há
20 anos? :)
Um problema maior ainda é o de como incluir os 3/4 da população mundial que
não tem acesso ao bens de consumo - obsolescidos ou não. E o fato desta
inclusão (necessária) ser ecologicamente insustentável (aliás, seria
ecologicamente insustentável até mesmo o consumo de carne por toda a
população mundial - algo dramático!).
Será que o desenvolvimento tecnológico (gerado pelo consumo) não encontrará
a resposta a essas questões?
Enfim... tenho mais dúvidas do que respostas para tais problemas.

Abs
Vinícius.


On 14-01-2011 18:32, nethell wrote:


On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:56:11 -0300
Gisele Neulsgisele.ne...@gmail.com   wrote:


Pessoal
Hj recebi um link pra um documentário feito na Espanha sobre
obsolescência
programada que tem um pouco a ver com a gente, porque trata de coisas
como
nosso lixo eletrônico por exemplo. Compartilho com vocês porque achei
super
interessante. Tem 52 min e está em espanhol.
Se aqui no Brasil há grupos estudando como consertar coisas que param de
funcionar por motivos estúpidos como a impressora deste documentário, eu
adoraria descobrir. Vale uma boa pauta. Sei des iniciativas de
metarreciclagem, que vai na mesma linha, mas isso é um pouquinho
diferente.
Espero que gostem. Se o link quebrar, e só copiar tudo que está entre as
tags e colar no navegador.

http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos/20110109/comprar-tirar-comprar/983391.shtml
saludos
Gisele


Isto está presente em quase tudo que consumimos, eletro domésticos,
móveis, roupas, utensilios, produtos de limpza, cosméticos, etc.
Aceitem ou não, a culpa é nossa. Consumimos muito e desmedidamente, por
qualquer motivo.
Consertar isso só depende de uma consciência coletiva, mais nada. Comprar
o necessário e sermos qualitativos ao escolher.
Enquanto agirmos como gafanhotos, seremos alvos dos pesticidas ;)



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[Ubuntu-BR] Software de contabilidade profissional - tem?

2011-01-14 Thread Gisele Neuls
oi, pessoal

Estou em busca de um software de contabilidade open source pra apresentar a
minha contadoda, a quem estou tentando trazer para este lado da força. O
problema é que não sei bem como encontrar um bom e confiável.

Catei na web, li alguns artigos, mas fico confusa porque em um momento ou
outro quase todos falam de gerenciador financeiro pessoal e/ou manual em
inglês. Ok, eu posso ler um manual em inglês, mas ela não, e não sei se vou
conseguir traduzir termos próprios da área contábil...

O que busco é um profissional, pra contabilidade de empresa mesmo. Eu vi que
na central de programas tem uma meia dúzia deles, mas eles também falam em
finanças pessoais. Onde eu procuro infos sobre isso pra mostrar a minha
contadora e testarmos juntas?


Gisele

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Software de contabilidade profissional - tem?

2011-01-14 Thread Marcelo Silva
Olha apesar de muitas dicas e realmente existir muitos softwares free por 
ai, seja pra linux ou windows, conseguir um software que se adeque a rotina 
de uma Empresa, eu diria que é mosca branca, pois esses tipos de sofware 
engessam a empresa, pois ela acaba tendo que se adequar ao software e fica 
travada se precisar de algo específico.
Sei também que o custo pra se ter um software proprietário é muito caro, 
pois sou programador e sei bem o que estou falando.
Não fazendo propaganda, pois trabalho registrado e não teria tempo pra 
fazer, mas a dica seria você fazer parceria com um programador e desenvolver 
um software as suas necessidades... uma boa ferramenta que está se 
destacando no linux é o Lazarus, uma IDE para FreePascal, outra também é o 
Eclipse para Java, mas esse com certeza um programador Java vai sair bem 
caro.
O bom de uma parceria é se der algum problema no software, e isso dá mesmo, 
o programador seria responsavel por manter tudo funcionando, isso lhe 
pouparia muita dor de cabeça.


Estou falando isso porque você citou que é um software para Empresa... 
entende-se que não pode ficar arriscando em testes de softwares free.


Veja só, nada contra software free heim, pois sou usuário assiduo linux, e 
tenho vontade de disponibilizar programas free também (só nao tenho 
tempo)... mas para uma Empresa, que não pode ficar parando sem um suporte, 
achar um software free não será nada fácil. De inicio você pode até começar 
a usar um, mas logo vai sentir que está engessada... e neste caso nao há 
muito o que fazer.


Desenvolver um ERP não é nada facil... e é bem complexo a necessidade de 
cada empresa, mesmo que seja o mesmo segmento, por isso a necessidade de um 
suporte constante, por isso não vai achar um sofware ERP de grande porte 
free que funcione somente instalando via apt-get.


Mais uma vez, pessoal, não sou contra free e open source, a maioria (senao 
todos) dos softwares livres que existem na web é para uso pessoal ou empresa 
(bem) pequena como a amiga já notou.



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oi, pessoal

Estou em busca de um software de contabilidade open source pra apresentar a
minha contadoda, a quem estou tentando trazer para este lado da força. O
problema é que não sei bem como encontrar um bom e confiável.

Catei na web, li alguns artigos, mas fico confusa porque em um momento ou
outro quase todos falam de gerenciador financeiro pessoal e/ou manual em
inglês. Ok, eu posso ler um manual em inglês, mas ela não, e não sei se vou
conseguir traduzir termos próprios da área contábil...

O que busco é um profissional, pra contabilidade de empresa mesmo. Eu vi que
na central de programas tem uma meia dúzia deles, mas eles também falam em
finanças pessoais. Onde eu procuro infos sobre isso pra mostrar a minha
contadora e testarmos juntas?


Gisele

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] FOSDEM 2011

2011-01-14 Thread Jim Bauwens
I'm going to FOSDEM, but I'm not sure if I can help.
So should I my data to the wiki and write maybe?

As for a cool project:
I have a 7 inch display link screen, and since it has a usb port its very
easy to connect to embedded devices.
So if someone of you has a Sheeveplug, Pogoplug, Seagate freeagent dockstar
or something similar, we could create a little cool arm computer running
ubuntu :-)

Greeting,
Jim Bauwens

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be wrote:

 Hello all,

 FOSDEM 2011 is coming nearby again... (Sat/Sun February 5-6 2011).

 I have made a page for the Ubuntu presence at FOSDEM 2011 here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011

 If you will be there and want to help with the booth, please add your
 name + info there.

 I am also looking for things to show at the booth, so if you have an
 idea of how to show a cool feature about Ubuntu or one of the related
 projects (ARM, Quickly, Upstart, Unity, DesktopCouch, Ubuntu font, a
 particular remix useful for developers, ...?), please let us know!


 On another note: last 2 years on Saturday evening, we went to a
 restaurant to eat with other Ubuntu people from around the world.  Is
 there anybody on the list who is from Brussels or knows it well who
 wants to organize a dinner this year?  One issue: it is very difficult
 to know exactly how many people will be there beforehand (even with
 attendance list on the wiki).  If anybody wants to volunteer for this,
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread Jim Bauwens
I can't vote, even if I login, so maybe the access settings are wrong ;-)

Jim

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:29 AM, wouter Vandenneucker 
wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi guys,


 Previous poll showed that most of you guys like the v9. But because of the
 position of some content on some shirts we would have to pay €2.56 extra for
 each shirt.
 v6, v7 and v9 have either content on the front and the sleeve or on the
 front and the back. This results in 2 separate printings and thus 2 times
 setup costs.


 Therefor we have decided to leave v6 v7 and v9 out of the voting. We want
 to ask you to fill in *one last poll*. After this poll we will order 100
 shirts.

 They will be available for everyone. *Once you all have voted we will take
 pre-orders!*

 The shirts should be ready before FOSDEM, so we'll be ordering very soon.
 Don't miss out your chance to vote.
 *The poll will close the 17th of januari at 23.59h*

 You can vote for your favorite shirt at:
 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/514/which-shirt-do-you-prefer

 The proposal T-shirts can still be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts
 Or at: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection


 More info and the results of the last poll can also be found at:
 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread martijn cielen
same here. Anyway, my vote goes to v4

Martijn

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jim Bauwens jimbauw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't vote, even if I login, so maybe the access settings are wrong ;-)
 Jim

 On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:29 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
 wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,


 Previous poll showed that most of you guys like the v9. But because of the
 position of some content on some shirts we would have to pay €2.56 extra for
 each shirt.
 v6, v7 and v9 have either content on the front and the sleeve or on the
 front and the back. This results in 2 separate printings and thus 2 times
 setup costs.


 Therefor we have decided to leave v6 v7 and v9 out of the voting. We want
 to ask you to fill in one last poll. After this poll we will order 100
 shirts.

 They will be available for everyone. Once you all have voted we will take
 pre-orders!

 The shirts should be ready before FOSDEM, so we'll be ordering very soon.
 Don't miss out your chance to vote.
 The poll will close the 17th of januari at 23.59h

 You can vote for your favorite shirt at:
 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/514/which-shirt-do-you-prefer

 The proposal T-shirts can still be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts
 Or at: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection


 More info and the results of the last poll can also be found at:
 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

Hi guys,


You can use this link instead:

http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/519/which-shirt-do-you-prefer


 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:28:10 +0100
 From: mcie...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update
 
 same here. Anyway, my vote goes to v4
 
 Martijn
 
 On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jim Bauwens jimbauw...@gmail.com wrote:
  I can't vote, even if I login, so maybe the access settings are wrong ;-)
  Jim
 
  On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:29 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
  wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
 
  Previous poll showed that most of you guys like the v9. But because of the
  position of some content on some shirts we would have to pay €2.56 extra 
  for
  each shirt.
  v6, v7 and v9 have either content on the front and the sleeve or on the
  front and the back. This results in 2 separate printings and thus 2 times
  setup costs.
 
 
  Therefor we have decided to leave v6 v7 and v9 out of the voting. We want
  to ask you to fill in one last poll. After this poll we will order 100
  shirts.
 
  They will be available for everyone. Once you all have voted we will take
  pre-orders!
 
  The shirts should be ready before FOSDEM, so we'll be ordering very soon.
  Don't miss out your chance to vote.
  The poll will close the 17th of januari at 23.59h
 
  You can vote for your favorite shirt at:
  http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/514/which-shirt-do-you-prefer
 
  The proposal T-shirts can still be found at:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts
  Or at: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection
 
 
  More info and the results of the last poll can also be found at:
  http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection
 
  Kind regards,
 
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread Jim Bauwens
Alright, voted :-)

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM, wouter Vandenneucker 
wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hi guys,


 You can use this link instead:

 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/519/which-shirt-do-you-prefer


  Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:28:10 +0100
  From: mcie...@gmail.com
  To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
  Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

 
  same here. Anyway, my vote goes to v4
 
  Martijn
 
  On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jim Bauwens jimbauw...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   I can't vote, even if I login, so maybe the access settings are wrong
 ;-)
   Jim
  
   On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:29 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
   wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi guys,
  
  
   Previous poll showed that most of you guys like the v9. But because of
 the
   position of some content on some shirts we would have to pay €2.56
 extra for
   each shirt.
   v6, v7 and v9 have either content on the front and the sleeve or on
 the
   front and the back. This results in 2 separate printings and thus 2
 times
   setup costs.
  
  
   Therefor we have decided to leave v6 v7 and v9 out of the voting. We
 want
   to ask you to fill in one last poll. After this poll we will order 100
   shirts.
  
   They will be available for everyone. Once you all have voted we will
 take
   pre-orders!
  
   The shirts should be ready before FOSDEM, so we'll be ordering very
 soon.
   Don't miss out your chance to vote.
   The poll will close the 17th of januari at 23.59h
  
   You can vote for your favorite shirt at:
   http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/514/which-shirt-do-you-prefer
  
   The proposal T-shirts can still be found at:
  
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts
   Or at: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection
  
  
   More info and the results of the last poll can also be found at:
   http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection
  
   Kind regards,
  
  
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] FOSDEM 2011

2011-01-14 Thread Ward De Ridder
I'll be there!
I can be there on Saturday all day, and on Sunday I have to leave at 15:00.
I hope to find a couch (Friday and /or Saturday) so I can be there in time
to help build everything up.
If it was a couple of weeks later I'd have a lot of cool things (I bought
all the components for a led cube, a led banner, some additional lcd's to
add to a computer,... I only have to put them together and write the
software for both microcontroller and computer, the linux driver (for
communication between computer and microcontroller) is already made.)

Ward

2011/1/13 Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be

 Hello all,

 FOSDEM 2011 is coming nearby again... (Sat/Sun February 5-6 2011).

 I have made a page for the Ubuntu presence at FOSDEM 2011 here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fosdem/2011

 If you will be there and want to help with the booth, please add your
 name + info there.

 I am also looking for things to show at the booth, so if you have an
 idea of how to show a cool feature about Ubuntu or one of the related
 projects (ARM, Quickly, Upstart, Unity, DesktopCouch, Ubuntu font, a
 particular remix useful for developers, ...?), please let us know!


 On another note: last 2 years on Saturday evening, we went to a
 restaurant to eat with other Ubuntu people from around the world.  Is
 there anybody on the list who is from Brussels or knows it well who
 wants to organize a dinner this year?  One issue: it is very difficult
 to know exactly how many people will be there beforehand (even with
 attendance list on the wiki).  If anybody wants to volunteer for this,
 please raise your hand (and send a mail! ;) )


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[Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting 13/01/2011 – Report

2011-01-14 Thread jean7491-Events-Team

IRC meeting 13/01/2011 – Report
Present at the meeting (in random order) : JanC, massimo21, clamam, 
mongolito404, woutervddn, FrankVanDamme, Jean7491, mimor, Gh0sty, 
jimbauwens, El-Kodar

Welcome to FrankVanDamme and El-Kodar  !

1. Future events
 a. Dipro fair Leuven 16/01/2011
Team and preparation are OK, Frank is coordinating the booth.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Leuven_2011-01-16

 b. Dipro fair Hasselt 23/01/2011
Team and preparation are OK.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Hasselt_2011-01-23

 c. Dipro fair Ghent 30/01/2011
Preparation starts today. Team : mimor (as 1 st volunteer) will 
coordinate.  Call for volunteers : please add your names in the wiki page

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
JanC will provide CD's and stickers Powered by Ubuntu.

 d. Dipro fair Kortrijk 06/02/2011
Call for volunteers : please add your names in the wiki page
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Kortrijk_2011-02-06

 e. Fosdem 2011 (05-06/02): will be commented by JanC at the next meeting.

 f. Digital week 2011 (28/02-05/03/2011)
Remember, everyone can take an initiative in his environment, if 
possible in contact with other organizations.
Already scheduled on 03/03/2011: presentation (2 sessions) of Ubuntu in 
the public library - Ostend.

Other locations ?

2. Promotion
 a. t-shirts for Ubuntu-be - Update
woutervddn and gadeynebram are working on the topic. It appears that the 
model v9 (choosen by poll) is more expensive and has a difficult design 
(COF on the side). A last poll limited to less expensive designs will be 
organized by woutervddn. When final decision is taken, 100 t-shirts will 
be ordered and pre-orders will be possible. Suggestion of sizes : 5S, 
20M, 30L, 20XL, 10XXL and 15 girlieshirts. Goal is still that the 
t-shirts are available for the FOSDEM 2011.

Later, a second order with an improved design can be proposed.

 b. Ubuntu promotion material for fairs/events
  - A few stickers “Powered by Ubuntu” should be available in Events 
boxes and in booths/events.
  - Are there other stickers or other material available by Canonical 
or others ?
  - JanC has received a table cloth and a banner from Canonical and the 
conference pack he ordered.
  - An Ubuntu-calendar 2011 (box 12 sides in do it yoursef) exists in 
Spanish and French:

 http://spreadubuntu.org/es/material/unusual/calendario-ubuntu-ubuntu-calendar
 http://spreadubuntu.org/fr/material/unusual/calendrier-ubuntu-ubuntu-calendar
It should be easy to translate the calendar (svg-file). Colours could be 
modified (ink-friendly-printed at home). To be printed on 160 g. 
(eventually coloured) paper. woutervddn will try. Other volunteers ?
  - Flyers Ubuntu-be A6 (2009): our stock will be empty in june 2011. 
Are there ideas for a new design ?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=flyer+2009.resized.jpg
 c. Education – courses
A Linux-2 course starts in Ostend (deavondschool.be) on 25/01/2011, and 
one in Hageland too,around the same time.


3. Update Wiki : nothing to report

4. Update Website Belgian Team
 a. From mongolito404, no news regarding the map, but he fixed 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-belgium/+bug/684443 for the website. 
He remind everyone interested that a) he is available to mentor any work 
on the website, just ask. b) we can still open a ML for webeditors if we 
feel there is a need (He is starting to think there is actually a huge 
need for this, to encourage peopele to mail). Next meeting will start 
with Wiki and Website !
 b. woutervddn suggests to add on the web-site a link to Ubuntu-be 
Facebook page. Idem for identi.ca


5. Next IRC meeting on Thursday 20/01/2011 at 21.00 hr.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting 13/01/2011 – Report

2011-01-14 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

Hi guys,


I've spend the whole day trying to figur how inkscape and scribus work.

Well not the whole day, since I spent 2 whole hours re-reading the Ubuntu 
Branding Guidelines.
Anyways, learning scribus didn't really go as planned so I made a draft for a 
new flyer totally in inkscape.


You can find a pdf version here: 
http://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=DownloadFile=48d2c942939cb4246a20380647ab4dbd


Because our main audience are Windows users I tried to put in some application 
icons that exist both in Windows and Linux.
I had a hard time selecting and without a doubt I forgot a few important ones. 
Please let me know if you have a good app to add to the list.
Also I'm not sure about the space underneath the monitor. What do you guys 
think about it?


I'd love to here your comments about it.


Kind regards




Woutervddn

Fri, 14 Jan 2011 18:12:48 +0100, jean7...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting 13/01/2011 – Report
...
 2. Promotion
...
- Flyers Ubuntu-be A6 (2009): our stock will be empty in june 2011. 
 Are there ideas for a new design ?
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=flyer+2009.resized.jpg
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread Jan Claeys
wouter Vandenneucker schreef op vr 14-01-2011 om 00:29 [+0100]:
 The proposal T-shirts can still be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts

I have updated this page a bit to make it a bit clearer (I hope).


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread Jan Claeys
wouter Vandenneucker schreef op vr 14-01-2011 om 00:29 [+0100]:
 You can vote for your favorite shirt at:
 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/514/which-shirt-do-you-prefer

For some reason I can't vote here?


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

Yeah,
Apparently I can't 'reset' the old poll so I've made a new one, normally you 
should have gotten an email about that.

New poll is here: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/519/which-shirt-do-you-prefer

 From: ubu...@janc.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:45:38 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update
 
 wouter Vandenneucker schreef op vr 14-01-2011 om 00:29 [+0100]:
  You can vote for your favorite shirt at:
  http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/514/which-shirt-do-you-prefer
 
 For some reason I can't vote here?
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread wouter Vandenneucker

Thx for that ;-)

 From: ubu...@janc.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:42:55 +0100
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update
 
 wouter Vandenneucker schreef op vr 14-01-2011 om 00:29 [+0100]:
  The proposal T-shirts can still be found at:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts
 
 I have updated this page a bit to make it a bit clearer (I hope).
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting 13/01/2011 – Report

2011-01-14 Thread Jan Claeys
jean7491-Events-Team schreef op vr 14-01-2011 om 18:12 [+0100]:
- JanC has received a table cloth and a banner from Canonical [...]

Some info on this:
  * table cloth is cotton, orange and 1,5m × 3m
  * banner is canvas (fortified plastic), orange and 1,2m × ?m
(haven't unrolled it yet)

Sense from ubuntu-nl made a blog post including a couple of photos of
both items:

http://sensehofstede.nl/tafelkleed-en-spandoek-van-ubuntu-gearriveerd



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[Ubuntu-be] Call for participants Dipro-fair Ghent 31/01/2011

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Morraye
*
Gezocht:
Mensen die willen helpen op de Ubuntu stand tijdens de Dipro beurs in Gent
op 31 Jan 2011.
Indien het niet mogelijk is om de volledige dag aanwezig te zijn, zijn
enkele uren hulp ook altijd welkom.

Profiel:
Je hoeft geen Ubuntu/linux expert te zijn.
Als je kan getuigen over jouw ervaringen en uitleg geven over alternatieven
voor Windows programma's,
kan je al een verschil maken.
De meeste mensen die we op de beurs ten woord staan, hebben helemaal geen of
weinig van Ubuntu/Linux.

Leuk weetje:
Als medewerker van de stand hoef je geen toegangsgeld te betalen, maar kan
je tussendoor wel rond kijken en toffe deals vinden.

Hoe:
Voeg je naam toe aan deze Ubuntu-be Wiki pagina:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
OF
Laat het me weten via mail op ubu...@mimor.be

Gelieve in de twee gevallen te vermelden of je een volledige dag of enkele
uren zal helpen.
Dat is het enige dat je hoeft te doen.
Indien je items van de lijst kan verzorgen zoals demo laptop(s),
fototoestel, etc... mag je dit ook telkens aanvullen op de wiki pagina.

Hopelijk tot binnenkort.

Mvg,

Mike Morraye
*
*
*
*==*
*
*
*Wanted:*
People who want to help out at the Ubuntu booth during the Dipro-fair is in
Ghent on January 31, 2011.
If you're not able to attend the full day, some hours of help are
always welcome
as well.

*Profile:*
You don't have to be an Ubuntu/Linux expert.
If you can testify about your experiences and suggest to Windows-programs,
can already make a difference.
Most people we lend a word on the fair, have none or little of
Ubuntu/Linux/Computer
experience.

*Fun fact:*
As an exhibitor* you don't have to pay the entrance fee, but between helping
out, you can take our time to look around and find awesome deals.*

How:
Add your name to the ubuntu-wiki page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
OR
Let me know trough mail ubu...@mimor.be

Please in both of these cases, mention whether you'll be helping out a full
day or several hours.
That's all you need to do.
If you can provide items such as demolaptop(s), camera, etc. .. you may also
add it to the wiki page.

Hope to see you soon.

Yours truly,

Mike Morraye


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Call for participants Dipro-fair Ghent 31/01/2011

2011-01-14 Thread Mike Morraye
Marc,

Super!!!
Vul je de wiki-pagina aan?

Mvg,

Mike Morraye

Op 14 januari 2011 23:30 schreef Marc marcnag...@gmail.com het volgende:

 Ik doe mee voor zondag.
 Op 14 jan. 2011 23:26 schreef Mike Morraye mikemorr...@gmail.com het
 volgende:
  *

  Gezocht:
  Mensen die willen helpen op de Ubuntu stand tijdens de Dipro beurs in
 Gent
  op 31 Jan 2011.
  Indien het niet mogelijk is om de volledige dag aanwezig te zijn, zijn
  enkele uren hulp ook altijd welkom.
 
  Profiel:
  Je hoeft geen Ubuntu/linux expert te zijn.
  Als je kan getuigen over jouw ervaringen en uitleg geven over
 alternatieven
  voor Windows programma's,
  kan je al een verschil maken.
  De meeste mensen die we op de beurs ten woord staan, hebben helemaal geen
 of
  weinig van Ubuntu/Linux.
 
  Leuk weetje:
  Als medewerker van de stand hoef je geen toegangsgeld te betalen, maar
 kan
  je tussendoor wel rond kijken en toffe deals vinden.
 
  Hoe:
  Voeg je naam toe aan deze Ubuntu-be Wiki pagina:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
  OF
  Laat het me weten via mail op ubu...@mimor.be
 
  Gelieve in de twee gevallen te vermelden of je een volledige dag of
 enkele
  uren zal helpen.
  Dat is het enige dat je hoeft te doen.
  Indien je items van de lijst kan verzorgen zoals demo laptop(s),
  fototoestel, etc... mag je dit ook telkens aanvullen op de wiki pagina.
 
  Hopelijk tot binnenkort.
 
  Mvg,
 
  Mike Morraye
  *
  *
  *
  *==*
  *
  *
  *Wanted:*
  People who want to help out at the Ubuntu booth during the Dipro-fair is
 in
  Ghent on January 31, 2011.
  If you're not able to attend the full day, some hours of help are
  always welcome
  as well.
 
  *Profile:*
  You don't have to be an Ubuntu/Linux expert.
  If you can testify about your experiences and suggest to
 Windows-programs,
  can already make a difference.
  Most people we lend a word on the fair, have none or little of
  Ubuntu/Linux/Computer
  experience.
 
  *Fun fact:*
  As an exhibitor* you don't have to pay the entrance fee, but between
 helping
  out, you can take our time to look around and find awesome deals.*
 
  How:
  Add your name to the ubuntu-wiki page:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
  OR
  Let me know trough mail ubu...@mimor.be
 
  Please in both of these cases, mention whether you'll be helping out a
 full
  day or several hours.
  That's all you need to do.
  If you can provide items such as demolaptop(s), camera, etc. .. you may
 also
  add it to the wiki page.
 
  Hope to see you soon.
 
  Yours truly,
 
  Mike Morraye
 
  

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Call for participants Dipro-fair Ghent 31/01/2011

2011-01-14 Thread Marc
Ik zit nu op café. Morgen of zondag. ;) maar ik kom zeker!
Op 14 jan. 2011 23:50 schreef Mike Morraye mikemorr...@gmail.com het
volgende:
 Marc,

 Super!!!
 Vul je de wiki-pagina aan?

 Mvg,

 Mike Morraye

 Op 14 januari 2011 23:30 schreef Marc marcnag...@gmail.com het volgende:

 Ik doe mee voor zondag.
 Op 14 jan. 2011 23:26 schreef Mike Morraye mikemorr...@gmail.com het
 volgende:
  *

  Gezocht:
  Mensen die willen helpen op de Ubuntu stand tijdens de Dipro beurs in
 Gent
  op 31 Jan 2011.
  Indien het niet mogelijk is om de volledige dag aanwezig te zijn, zijn
  enkele uren hulp ook altijd welkom.
 
  Profiel:
  Je hoeft geen Ubuntu/linux expert te zijn.
  Als je kan getuigen over jouw ervaringen en uitleg geven over
 alternatieven
  voor Windows programma's,
  kan je al een verschil maken.
  De meeste mensen die we op de beurs ten woord staan, hebben helemaal
geen
 of
  weinig van Ubuntu/Linux.
 
  Leuk weetje:
  Als medewerker van de stand hoef je geen toegangsgeld te betalen, maar
 kan
  je tussendoor wel rond kijken en toffe deals vinden.
 
  Hoe:
  Voeg je naam toe aan deze Ubuntu-be Wiki pagina:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
  OF
  Laat het me weten via mail op ubu...@mimor.be
 
  Gelieve in de twee gevallen te vermelden of je een volledige dag of
 enkele
  uren zal helpen.
  Dat is het enige dat je hoeft te doen.
  Indien je items van de lijst kan verzorgen zoals demo laptop(s),
  fototoestel, etc... mag je dit ook telkens aanvullen op de wiki pagina.
 
  Hopelijk tot binnenkort.
 
  Mvg,
 
  Mike Morraye
  *
  *
  *
  *==*
  *
  *
  *Wanted:*
  People who want to help out at the Ubuntu booth during the Dipro-fair
is
 in
  Ghent on January 31, 2011.
  If you're not able to attend the full day, some hours of help are
  always welcome
  as well.
 
  *Profile:*
  You don't have to be an Ubuntu/Linux expert.
  If you can testify about your experiences and suggest to
 Windows-programs,
  can already make a difference.
  Most people we lend a word on the fair, have none or little of
  Ubuntu/Linux/Computer
  experience.
 
  *Fun fact:*
  As an exhibitor* you don't have to pay the entrance fee, but between
 helping
  out, you can take our time to look around and find awesome deals.*
 
  How:
  Add your name to the ubuntu-wiki page:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ComputerFairs/Ghent_2011-01-31
  OR
  Let me know trough mail ubu...@mimor.be
 
  Please in both of these cases, mention whether you'll be helping out a
 full
  day or several hours.
  That's all you need to do.
  If you can provide items such as demolaptop(s), camera, etc. .. you may
 also
  add it to the wiki page.
 
  Hope to see you soon.
 
  Yours truly,
 
  Mike Morraye
 
  

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[Bug 701765] Re: open_basedir breaks by restricting paths to files that should be allowed; Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0

2011-01-14 Thread imagine
Bug is fixed, however the bug ID in the changelog is wrong, so the
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[Bug 350936] Re: Should shut down domains on system shutdown

2011-01-14 Thread Lars Hansson
The same problem exist in 10.10 and John's posted workarounds are not working 
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[Bug 676208] Re: package backuppc 3.1.0-6ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: underprocess installerade post-installation-skript gav felkod 1

2011-01-14 Thread Angel Abad
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 445154 ***
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[Bug 562516] Re: package backuppc 3.1.0-6ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

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[Bug 484617] Re: package backuppc 3.1.0-6ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1

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[Bug 225398] Re: package backuppc 3.0.0-4ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: Unterprozess post-installation script gab den Fehlerwert 1 zur?ck

2011-01-14 Thread Angel Abad
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[Bug 702812] [NEW] Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2011-01-14 Thread Angel Abad
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: backuppc

Please merge new Debian revision:

 backuppc (3.2.0-3) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Shell characters are now properly escaped. Closes: #516626
   * Added in README.Debian instructions for IPv6 hosts. Closes: #594091
   * Removed /etc/backuppc/htgroup. Closes: #594692

Thanks!

** Affects: backuppc (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Confirmed

** Changed in: backuppc (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Angel Abad (angelabad)

** Changed in: backuppc (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 702812] Re: Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2011-01-14 Thread Angel Abad

** Patch added: debian  ubuntu debdiff
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/backuppc/+bug/702812/+attachment/1793613/+files/debian-ubuntu.debdiff

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[Bug 702812] Re: Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2011-01-14 Thread Angel Abad

** Patch added: ubuntu.old  ubuntu debdiff
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/backuppc/+bug/702812/+attachment/1793614/+files/ubuntu.debdiff

** Changed in: backuppc (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Confirmed

** Changed in: backuppc (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Angel Abad (angelabad) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 697197] Re: Empty password allows access to VNC in libvirt

2011-01-14 Thread Neil Wilson
CVE issued putting the onus squarely on qemu's shoulders.

** CVE added: http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-
bin/cvename.cgi?name=2011-0011

** Changed in: libvirt (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

** Changed in: qemu-kvm (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #668589
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668589

** Also affects: qemu-kvm via
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=668589
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 702812] Re: Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2011-01-14 Thread Bhavani Shankar
** Changed in: backuppc (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

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[Bug 634488] Re: new virtual machines do not boot

2011-01-14 Thread Sergey Svishchev
duplicate of bug 659532 (fix released)

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[Bug 702812] Re: Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2011-01-14 Thread Artur Rona
If you have forwarded changes to Debian, I really encourage to use
(Closes: #XX) in debian/changelog.

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[Bug 702641] Re: samba.schema missing

2011-01-14 Thread Thomas Schweikle
samba.schema is in samba-doc --- a package I did not install because:
why shall I have docs installed on a server?

I'd propose samba.schema to have it's own package making clear holding
sample configurations for ldap.

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[Bug 702641] Re: samba.schema missing

2011-01-14 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Its not realy a bug.

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[Bug 697592] Re: unable to create socket on eth0 (210) for ::ffff:192.168.1.4#123

2011-01-14 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Networking setup is quite simple: the machine in question does only have
one network interface:

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
  address 192.168.1.4
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  gateway 192.168.1.1

iface eth0 inet6 static
  address :::192.168.1.4
  netmask 96
  gateway :::192.168.1.1

ntp is bound to all interfaces, all ipv4, ipv6

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[Bug 702812]

2011-01-14 Thread Angel Abad
Sorry, but I dont understand why add Closes to launchpad uploads,
because it has no effect in launchpad.

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[Bug 479823] Re: euca2ools: euca-bundle-vol strips leading zero (0) from user id

2011-01-14 Thread Mitch Garnaat
Surprisingly, this never made it upstream.  I just committed a fix
upstream in r330.

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[Bug 702903] [NEW] package tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: Pakiet jest w złym stanie - powinien zostać przeinstalowany przed usunięciem.

2011-01-14 Thread Lepus
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: tftp-hpa

1) Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
2) apt-cache policy tftpd-hpa
tftpd-hpa:
  Zainstalowana: 5.0-11ubuntu2
  Kandydująca: 5.0-11ubuntu2.1
  Tabela wersji:
 5.0-11ubuntu2.1 0
500 http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Packages
 *** 5.0-11ubuntu2 0
500 http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
3) Update will be installed
4) Manager stopped while updating

ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
Package: tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-27.49-generic 2.6.32.26+drm33.12
Uname: Linux 2.6.32-27-generic i686
AptOrdering: tftpd-hpa: Purge
Architecture: i386
Date: Fri Jan 14 09:59:01 2011
ErrorMessage: Pakiet jest w złym stanie - powinien zostać przeinstalowany  
przed usunięciem.
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release i386 (20100429)
SourcePackage: tftp-hpa
Title: package tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: Pakiet jest w 
złym stanie - powinien zostać przeinstalowany  przed usunięciem.

** Affects: tftp-hpa (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: apport-package i386 lucid

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[Bug 702812] Re: Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)

2011-01-14 Thread Artur Rona
Update managers can link (Closes:) to their pages on BTS and also it's
an information that this thing has been forwarded to Debian and waiting
to approve by maintainer. Conclusion: adding (Closes:) to
debian/changelog in our archive facilitates to maintain remaining delta.

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[Bug 701765] Re: open_basedir breaks by restricting paths to files that should be allowed; Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0

2011-01-14 Thread Andrea Azzini
I am not completely confident that the bug is indeed fixed.

The original problem is gone, but I think I see a similar issue in the
updated package. On my Hardy server, paths *without* a trailing slash
now seem to be blocked unexpectedly.

[Fri Jan 14 15:48:37 2011] [error] [client 193.205.80.47] PHP Warning:
Unknown: open_basedir restriction in effect.
File(/var/www/phpmyadmin/index.php) is not within the allowed path(s):
(/var/www/:/usr/share/php:/var/lib/php:/var/lib/docman_docs/:/var/lib/moodledata/:/tmp/)
in Unknown on line 0

On this box, /var/www/phpmyadmin is a symlink to /usr/share/phpmyadmin,
which should be allowed per entry number 2 in open_basedir
(/usr/share/php). I quote http://php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php: All
symbolic links are resolved and The restriction specified with
open_basedir is actually a prefix, not a directory name. As a side
note, it had always worked perfectly so far.

Can somebody else please test this case?

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[Bug 701765] Re: open_basedir breaks by restricting paths to files that should be allowed; Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0

2011-01-14 Thread James78
I removed the slashes and tested it out. It appears to work perfectly
fine for me like it should.

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[Bug 701765] Re: open_basedir breaks by restricting paths to files that should be allowed; Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0

2011-01-14 Thread James78
Andrea: Yes, /var/www/phpmyadmin is a symlink to /usr/share/phpmyadmin,
but please note that you're missing 2 more crucial paths.
/etc/phpmyadmin/:/var/lib/phpmyadmin/ are also part of phpmyadmin and
require to be allowed in open_basedir. May not be related to your issue,
but it's the case nonetheless. :)

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[Bug 701765] Re: open_basedir breaks by restricting paths to files that should be allowed; Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0

2011-01-14 Thread James78
Oh, to also make a note, when I said earlier that I removed the slashes
and tested it out.. my entry was like /home/user/public_html/, and I
removed the slash at the end and it still worked. So when I said it
appears to work perfectly fine for me, my test wasn't exactly the same
as Andrea's and therefore this may still be a bug and issue. ;)

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[Bug 701765] Re: open_basedir breaks by restricting paths to files that should be allowed; Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0

2011-01-14 Thread Andrea Azzini
Uhm. The open_basedir has /var/lib/php which is a valid prefix for
/var/lib/phpmyadmin/, and it has always (for two years until wednesday
when this bug appeared) worked with this open_basedir string.

To further clarify:

[...]:/usr/share/phpmyadmin/:/var/lib/phpmyadmin/:[...] works
[...]:/usr/share/phpmyadmin:/var/lib/phpmyadmin:[...] works
[...]:/usr/share/php:/var/lib/php:[...] does not work

which seems to mean that it is now treating paths without a trailing
slash as directory names instead of prefixes, which is what the
specification says.

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[Bug 702903] Re: package tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: Pakiet jest w złym stanie - powinien zostać przeinstalowany przed usunięciem.

2011-01-14 Thread Peter Matulis
I cannot reproduce this.

I translated the error message to this:

The package is in poor condition - it should be reinstalled before
removal

How I knew the original was in Polish is beyond me.

$ sudo aptitude install tftpd-hpa=5.0-11ubuntu2

$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  tftpd-hpa 
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 46.9kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Writing extended state information... Done
Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main tftpd-hpa 
5.0-11ubuntu2.1 [46.9kB]
Fetched 46.9kB in 0s (106kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 27344 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2 (using 
.../tftpd-hpa_5.0-11ubuntu2.1_amd64.deb) ...
tftpd-hpa stop/waiting
Unpacking replacement tftpd-hpa ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
Setting up tftpd-hpa (5.0-11ubuntu2.1) ...
tftpd user (tftp) already exists, doing nothing.

tftpd-hpa directory (/var/lib/tftpboot) already exists, doing nothing.
tftpd-hpa start/running, process 11999

Reading package lists... Done 
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done

Current status: 0 updates [-1].

$ dpkg -l tftpd-hpa
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version   
Description
+++-=-=-==
ii  tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2.1   HPA's 
tftp server

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[Bug 665667] Re: couldn't launch an AMI bundled and uploaded using euca2ools

2011-01-14 Thread Scott Moser
** Also affects: euca2ools (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 701765] Re: open_basedir breaks by restricting paths to files that should be allowed; Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/phpmyadmin/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0

2011-01-14 Thread James78
Andrea: Yes, you are correct, that should work. I wasn't debating that.
If you installed phpmyadmin from the repositories, phpmyadmin calls php
files from /etc/phpmyadmin and /var/lib/phpmyadmin also, as well as
/usr/share/phpmyadmin. phpmyadmin will work without adding those 2
directories into open_basedir, but it breaks some functionality of
phpmyadmin (notice some warning messages at the bottom of the phpmyadmin
index page?). You can check those 2 directories to verify there's php
files inside of them. :)

I also added the note that my test wasn't exactly like yours (and
therefore your issue could still be a bug) because I wasn't using mine
as a prefix (as your issue stated you were doing), even though I removed
the trailing slashes. ;)

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[Bug 702626] Re: euca2ools published images do not run on ec2

2011-01-14 Thread Scott Moser
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 665667 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/665667

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 665667
   couldn't launch an AMI bundled and uploaded using euca2ools
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[Bug 665667] Re: couldn't launch an AMI bundled and uploaded using euca2ools

2011-01-14 Thread Scott Moser
** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Scott Moser (smoser)

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[Bug 702404] Re: cannot change scores in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf/local

2011-01-14 Thread Antonio J. de Oliveira
The bug title should read:

cannot change scores in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf

sorry for the inconvenience...

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[Bug 665667] Re: couldn't launch an AMI bundled and uploaded using euca2ools

2011-01-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package euca2ools - 1.3.1-0ubuntu5

---
euca2ools (1.3.1-0ubuntu5) natty; urgency=low

  * fix odd length string error in euca-bundle-image (LP: #509562)
which was lost in upgrade to 1.3.1
  * cherry pick 2 upstream commits regarding user id handling. one
fixing user ids beginning with zero (regressed from LP: #479823)
one more easily removing '-' chars.
  * cherry pick upstream fix for a bundling bug which caused ec2 instances
to go straight to terminated (LP: #665667)
 -- Scott Moser smo...@ubuntu.com   Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:38:55 -0500

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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[Bug 526464] Re: intermittent authentication: check_ntlm_password: Authentication for user [someuser] - [someuser] FAILED with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

2011-01-14 Thread Robbie Williamson
This also looks suspicious too (dmesg.log):
[14076616.248406] audit(1294765455.905:2753): type=1503 
operation=inode_permission requested_mask=w:: denied_mask=w:: 
name=/var/run/samba/winbindd_privileged/pipe pid=23931 
profile=/usr/sbin/cupsd namespace=default

I wonder if AppArmor profile for samba is causing problems for you.

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[Bug 672986] Re: euca-bundle-vol/ec2-bundle-vol should copy filesystem uuid

2011-01-14 Thread Scott Moser
To test packages, please:
   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:smoser/bundle-fix-sru-test
   sudo apt-get update
   sudo apt-get upgrade


** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Maverick)
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[Bug 667793] Re: euca-bundle-vol/ec2-bundle-vol should copy filesystem label

2011-01-14 Thread Scott Moser
** Also affects: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: euca2ools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: euca2ools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: euca2ools (Ubuntu Maverick)
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[Bug 526464] Re: intermittent authentication: check_ntlm_password: Authentication for user [someuser] - [someuser] FAILED with error NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

2011-01-14 Thread Marc Deslauriers
That is an AppArmor message from the AppArmor cups profile, not a samba
one.

I doubt it's related, but you could try and temporarily disable the
AppArmor cups profile to make sure.

Instructions for doing so are here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor

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[Bug 282876] Re: drbd doesn't start on boot

2011-01-14 Thread Numérigraphe
For your information, a similar bug was introduced in the Lucid cycle and then 
fixed again in Maverick.
In Lucid thhe default-start and default-sop are empty.

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[Bug 282876] Re: drbd doesn't start on boot

2011-01-14 Thread Numérigraphe
Dear SRU team, please would you care to push the fix to Lucid? Being an
LTS, I think it's worth it.

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[Bug 632696] Re: libvirt won't start a VM with serial or console when apparmor is enabled

2011-01-14 Thread Cody A.W. Somerville
I've ran into this issue twice now today. I can be creating VMs just
fine and then go to create another one and it fails with this error.
Rebooting fixed the issue the first time and I was able to create VMs
again like normal but then for seemingly no reason I started getting the
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[Bug 604872] Re: qemu-system-arm segfaults emulating versatile machine after running debootstrap --second-stage inside vm

2011-01-14 Thread Aurelien Jarno
** Changed in: qemu
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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[Bug 667793] Re: euca-bundle-vol/ec2-bundle-vol should copy filesystem label

2011-01-14 Thread Casey B
Using Lucid, updated packages at 
https://launchpad.net/~smoser/+archive/bundle-fix-sru-test
work for me.

rebundled a few different images successfully

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[Bug 646858] Re: upstart unable to correctly track dovecot daemon when managesieve plugin is enabled

2011-01-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Closed the upstart tasks, as this was a problem with dovecot not
upstart.

** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu Maverick)
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[Bug 684398] Re: mysqld crashes on certain ALTER TABLE queries (MySQL Bug #31145)

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Subscribed sponsors, looks fine for SRU. Thanks!

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[Bug 458637] Re: Windows Live Sign-In assistant prevents samba from accessing Windows 7 shares

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
** Tags added: verification-done
** Tags removed: verification-needed

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[Bug 282876] Re: drbd doesn't start on boot

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
It was fixed way before, in jaunty. It's supposed to be fixed in lucid.

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[Bug 672986] Re: euca-bundle-vol/ec2-bundle-vol should copy filesystem uuid

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Accepted ec2-ami-tools into lucid-proposed, the package will build now
and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Tags added: verification-needed

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Maverick)
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[Bug 672986] Please test proposed package

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Accepted ec2-ami-tools into maverick-proposed, the package will build
now and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here.
See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how
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[Bug 667793] Re: euca-bundle-vol/ec2-bundle-vol should copy filesystem label

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Accepted ec2-ami-tools into lucid-proposed, the package will build now
and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Tags added: verification-needed

** Changed in: ec2-ami-tools (Ubuntu Maverick)
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[Bug 667793] Please test proposed package

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Accepted ec2-ami-tools into maverick-proposed, the package will build
now and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here.
See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how
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[Bug 661024] Re: [SRU] etckeeper fail to work when installed during installation

2011-01-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Accepted etckeeper into maverick-proposed, the package will build now
and be available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Changed in: etckeeper (Ubuntu Maverick)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed

** Tags added: verification-needed

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[Bug 687635] Re: No easy way to make Samba shares permanent

2011-01-14 Thread Chris Wilson
** Also affects: mountall (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: samba (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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[Bug 687635] Re: No easy way to make Samba shares permanent

2011-01-14 Thread Chris Wilson
I think a solution to this would be for there to be a permanent entry
created in the fstab that would remember the network share each time it
was connected. This should happen automatically so that the user does
not need to worry about it.

That said, this is not a trivial feature to implement, so I am
invalidating it as a paper cut.

** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
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** Also affects: ayatana-design
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   Status: New

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[Bug 674701] Re: NTP client packets always have bad checksum

2011-01-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for ntp (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60
days.]

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[Bug 674417] Re: unable to get logs either in daemon nor foreground

2011-01-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for tftp-hpa (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60
days.]

** Changed in: tftp-hpa (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 538587] Re: munin fails to work after reboot (/var/run/munin missing)

2011-01-14 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: munin
   Status: New = Fix Released

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Re: DHCP côté client

2011-01-14 Thread Clement Fouque

On 14/01/2011 09:10, Séb Buch wrote:

En l'occurence, la très grande majorité (toutes?) des box font office
de routeur et font tourner un serveur DHCP auquel les PC (ou autres)
peuvent se raccorder pour profiter d'un réseau domestique et/ou
d'internet (la box est surtout une passerelle).


Une box, ca n'est rien d'autre qu'un routeur et un modem adsl repackager 
dans une jolie boiboite :)
On peut les faire tourner aussi bien en mode passerelle avec ton propre 
routeur derrière comme en mode routeur.



Si tu utilises network-manager (utilitaire de connexion réseau par
défaut), cela ne changera rien: il considérera que c'est à lui de gérer
l'interface eth0 et, par défaut, utilisera une connexion automatique via
DHCP.
En ce qui me concerne, mon /etc/network/interface ne contient pas
cette ligne, alors je que suis pourtant connecté par le réseau filaire
via l'interface eth0. (j'utilise network-manager)


C'est marrant, j'ai fait exactement l'inverse.
Je trouve que c'est plus simple pour un pc fixe...

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Re: DHCP côté client

2011-01-14 Thread spir

On 01/14/2011 09:10 AM, Séb Buch wrote:

On 01/13/2011 07:50 PM, spir wrote:

[massicot]
Je n'ai pas de réseau à moi, juste connecté à internet via une box tout
ce qu'il de plus standard (livebox) sur le réseau téléphonique. Alors,
qui (quel serveur) est sensé répondre à le demande de dhcp émise au
démarrage par mon PC?
Si la réponse est évidemment personne, alors la question devient:
pourquoi le système fait-il cette demande? Il ne la faisait pas avec les
versions précédentes d'Ubuntu (ça a commencé avec la 10.04 je pense) et
que mon matériel n'a pas changé (sauf le clavier, mais je crois qu'on
peut l'innocenter ;-)


Monsieur Jourdain, à partir du moment où tu est derrière une box, tu
es un réseau! :)
En fait, même sans la box, si tu as une connexion internet, tu es
fatalement en réseau...


Je sais bien que je suis en réseau, faut pas me prendre pour encore plus 
con que je suis ;-)
Je disais juste que je n'ai pas un réseau (disons local) à moi. Libre à 
toi de considérer que, techniquement, un unique PC derrière une box est 
un réseau (disons minimal) (puisque, si j'ai bien pigé, on peut 
connecter plusieurs PCs à la box qui seront alors à même de causer entre 
eux, via son intermédiaire) mais tu comprends bien, je pense, que 
l'utilisateur ne voit pas les choses de cette façon --du moins, tant que 
la box ne lui sert qu'à connecter son unique PC à internet.

Excuse la formulation circonvolutive!


En l'occurence, la très grande majorité (toutes?) des box font office
de routeur et font tourner un serveur DHCP auquel les PC (ou autres)
peuvent se raccorder pour profiter d'un réseau domestique et/ou
d'internet (la box est surtout une passerelle).
La livebox ne dérogeant pas à la règle, elle fournit un serveur DHCP que
ton PC interroge pour obtenir les paramètres réseau. À noter que sauf si
tu as changé des paramètres de ta livebox (=stopper le serveur DHCP), tu
t'es toujours connecté au réseau de cette façon (quelle que soit la
version d'Ubuntu)!


D'accord, je commence à comprendre un peu mieux. Donc, c'est la box (son 
côté routeur, sans doute? pas le côté modem ethernet) qui est sensé 
fournir les données de paramétrage réseau à mon ordi. Correct?
Et si oui, est-ce que lesdites données concernent internet, le mini 
réseau local, ou les deux? Si les deux, est-ce que la box est sensée 
fournir 2 paquets de données ou est-ce que ce sont les mêmes qui servent 
aux 2 réseaux?
Je n'ai pas changé les paramètres des la box. Et je peut assurer que la 
phase DHCP visible au démarrage du PC (voir ci-dessous) est apparue 
tout-à-coup l'an dernier; alors que la box faisait son boulot depuis un 
bon moment sur le même ordi, qui n'a pas changé d'un poil au niveau 
matériel.



[massicot]
J'ai bien cette ligne dans /etc/network/interfaces. Pourquoi est-elle
soudain apparue, mystère?
Alors, comme la demande de dhcp échoue systématiquement, je ne devrais
pas pouvoir me connecter à internet sans paramétrer la connexion, c'est
ça. Mais lorsque j'ai installé la box la connexion a fonctionné illico
sans aucun paramétrage de ma part (alors qu'avant avec un modem 56k je
faisais tout à la main). Et depuis que ces tentatives dhcp rien n'a
changé de ce côté. Donc, il y a certainement un paramétrage automatik
qui fait très bien son boulot. Yo?


Oui, le paramétrage automatique, c'est *justement* le DHCP:
la ligne iface eth0 inet auto signifie que l'interface nommé eth0
(1ère interface éthernet) doit utiliser le protocole DHCP pour se
connecter au réseau.


D'accord, mais je parlais d'un autre paramétrage automatique, autre que 
le dhcp, puisque celui semble échouer. Par exemple un set de valeurs par 
défauts qui marcheraient le plus souvent (il y a un tas de trucs qui 
marchent comme, tu le sais aussi bien que moi).

Quant à l'échec, voir ci-dessous.


Il y a fort à parier que cette est apparue soudainement au moment de
la configuration du réseau... lors de l'installation!
Pourrais-tu donner le log qui te permets de dire que la requête DHCP
échoue? (Avoir des soucis avec internet ne signifie pas nécessairement
avoir des soucis avec le réseau... et vice versa)
Que dit par exemple la commande sudo dhclient? (commande système pour
se (re)demander les paramètres de connexion au serveur DHCP)


Ce qui me permet de dire cela, c'est un feedback à l'écran, au 
démarrage. Il s'affiche d'abord:

--
CLIENT MAC ADDR: 00... (et plein d'autres chiffres hexa)
GUID: F... (juste des 'F' avec quelques separateurs '-')
DHCP...(pas de ': ' pour DHCP, mais ici des vrais '.')
--
Pendant environ 30 secondes, la ligne de points qui suit DHCP s'étiiire, 
puis:

--
PXE (qq autres lettres) no boot filename received
exiting PXE-ROM
--
J'en conclus, peut-être à tort (mais je me pardonne dans ce cas, car le 
feedback n'est pas des plus clairs), que la demande DHCP échoue. Et 
j'imagine que, peut-être, auparavant, je ne voyais pas cette phase au 
démarrage si elle réussissait alors, 

Re: DHCP côté client

2011-01-14 Thread Olivier PAVILLA


Le 14/01/2011 12:13, spir a écrit :
[cut]
 
 Ce qui me permet de dire cela, c'est un feedback à l'écran, au
 démarrage. Il s'affiche d'abord:
 --
 CLIENT MAC ADDR: 00... (et plein d'autres chiffres hexa)
 GUID: F... (juste des 'F' avec quelques separateurs '-')
 DHCP...(pas de ': ' pour DHCP, mais ici des vrais '.')
 --
 Pendant environ 30 secondes, la ligne de points qui suit DHCP s'étiiire,
 puis:
 --
 PXE (qq autres lettres) no boot filename received
 exiting PXE-ROM
 --
[cut]
 
 Listening on LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
 Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
 Sending on   Socket/fallback
 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
 DHCPOFFER of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
 DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.3 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
 DHCPACK of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
 bound to 192.168.1.3 -- renewal in 6 seconds.

Magnifique! Toutes les infos qui faut pour aider à résoudre votre problème.
Avez vous souvenir d'avoir modifier l'ordre de boot de votre machine.
Sur les bécanes de particulier, le boot pxe, c'est en général le dernier
choix.

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Re: autofs au boot - upstart

2011-01-14 Thread lirtyx

re,

J'ai regardé http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/autofs
Je suis sur ubuntu 10.10

Le montage fonctionne :
sudo mount -t nfs4 192.168.1.120:/partage /mnt
puis
ls -lR /mnt
déroule bien tous les fichiers du partage sur le client

auto.mater :
+auto.master
/misc   /etc/auto.misc

auto.misc :
partage -fstype=nfs4,rw,bg,hard,intr192.168.1.120:/partage

après : sudo start autofs
ls -lR /misc/partage
- nickel
après redémarrage - rien sauf si je relance manuellement autofs avec
sudo start autofs

Cela doit être lié au nouveau init d'ubuntu upstart qui ne lance pas
autosfs
/etc/init/autofs.conf  mentionne
start on (filesystem
and net-device-up IFACE!=lo)
stop on runlevel[!2345]
- J'en comprends que cela lance le service si il y a un interface
réseau au moins en plus du loopback.

De plus
sudo update-rc.d autofs defaults
donne :
update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/autofs missing LSB information
update-rc.d: see http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
 Adding system startup for /etc/init.d/autofs ...
   /etc/rc0.d/K20autofs - ../init.d/autofs
   /etc/rc1.d/K20autofs - ../init.d/autofs
   /etc/rc6.d/K20autofs - ../init.d/autofs
   /etc/rc2.d/S20autofs - ../init.d/autofs
   /etc/rc3.d/S20autofs - ../init.d/autofs
   /etc/rc4.d/S20autofs - ../init.d/autofs
   /etc/rc5.d/S20autofs - ../init.d/autofs

Sgrogneugneu, je ne comprends pas...

Cdt

david96 wrote:

Le 14/01/2011 11:28, lirtyx a écrit :

Bonjour la liste,

J'ai un autofs configuré.
Après un sudo start autofs  tout est ok.
les automontages sont font bien.

Mais après redémarrage... Rien...(sauf si on refait sudo start autofs)
Malgré un sudo update-rc-d autofs default  ...

Merci de tout aide/lien.


Bonjour,

As-tu regardé la doc : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/autofs
Et si oui, faudrait voir si ce que tu as mis dans les fichiers 
(auto.master, auto.type) est correct :)






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Re: DHCP côté client

2011-01-14 Thread Clement Fouque

On 14/01/2011 12:13, spir wrote:

Ce qui me permet de dire cela, c'est un feedback à l'écran, au
démarrage. Il s'affiche d'abord:
--
CLIENT MAC ADDR: 00... (et plein d'autres chiffres hexa)
GUID: F... (juste des 'F' avec quelques separateurs '-')
DHCP... (pas de ': ' pour DHCP, mais ici des vrais '.')
--
Pendant environ 30 secondes, la ligne de points qui suit DHCP s'étiiire,
puis:
--
PXE (qq autres lettres) no boot filename received
exiting PXE-ROM
--
J'en conclus, peut-être à tort (mais je me pardonne dans ce cas, car le
feedback n'est pas des plus clairs), que la demande DHCP échoue. Et
j'imagine que, peut-être, auparavant, je ne voyais pas cette phase au
démarrage si elle réussissait alors, et que donc mon ordi recevait ses
données DHCP, ce quasi-instantanément (pas de raison que ça dure des
heures, j'imagine, surtout si le serveur est local). Ca vous paraît un
scénario plausible?


Hum, je suis pas sûr, mais il me semble que PXE-ROM c'est pour des 
histoires de boot en réseau comme le dit Olivier...



En ce qui concerne dhclient, voici le résultat de la commande:

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.3 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
bound to 192.168.1.3 -- renewal in 6 seconds.

J'aimerais bien pouvoir interpréter cela: ça signfierait que je sais
quelle genre de données sont sensées être présentes dans tel ou tel cas
(avec ou sans demande DHCP, en cas d'échec ou de réussite, usage ou non
de network manager, et j'en passe...).


De ce que je vois, le DHCP fonctionne sans aucun problème, donc ca ne 
viens pas de la box.


Pour en savoir un peu plus sur le DHCP :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol

En gros, ce qu'il y'a à retenir c'est
* DHCPOFFER : un serveur dhcp a été trouvé sur le réseau.
* boundto  : Une adresse IP a été attribuée à la machine.


J'imagine que rien ne changera donc non plus si je supprime cette ligne.
(Mais je préfère demander au kazou.)


Et ca donne quoi une demande faîte au kazoo.
( Désolé, fallait que je la fasse -_-' )


Je préférerais laisser ou rétablir la méthode la plus ordinaire. Pour
info au cas où, j'ai installé la 10.10 il ya qq jours, et ça n'a rien
changé sur ce plan-là. (Mais ça a viré un autre bug, en l'occurrence que
le démarrage s'arrêtait en login console.)


En fait les deux se valent hormis le fait que la connexion réseau sera 
établie avant que l'interface graphique ne soit lancée.


A+

Clément

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Re: autofs au boot

2011-01-14 Thread Avell Diroll

On 01/14/2011 11:28 AM, lirtyx wrote:

J'ai un autofs configuré.
Après un sudo start autofs  tout est ok.
les automontages sont font bien.


En général, on privilégie la commande suivante pour faire ce genre de chose:
sudo service autofs start
voir
sudo service autofs restart


Mais après redémarrage... Rien...(sauf si on refait sudo start autofs)
Malgré un sudo update-rc-d autofs default  ...


autofs est configuré *à l'installation du paquet* pour être lancé au 
démarrage par upstart, et non par sysinit, il était donc inutile de 
lancer la commande sudo update-rc-d autofs default et en toute 
probabilité, c'est cette manip qui est la cause du problème.


Bonne continuation

Ju

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Re: DHCP côté client

2011-01-14 Thread olivier van de vijvere
Après client mac address, tu as un espèce de slash qui tourne pendant un
certain temps ? Parce que ces messages me font bien penser à des options à
désactiver dans le bios...

Le 14 janvier 2011 13:53, Clement Fouque clement.fou...@free.fr a écrit :

 On 14/01/2011 12:13, spir wrote:

 Ce qui me permet de dire cela, c'est un feedback à l'écran, au
 démarrage. Il s'affiche d'abord:
 --
 CLIENT MAC ADDR: 00... (et plein d'autres chiffres hexa)
 GUID: F... (juste des 'F' avec quelques separateurs '-')
 DHCP... (pas de ': ' pour DHCP, mais ici des vrais '.')
 --
 Pendant environ 30 secondes, la ligne de points qui suit DHCP s'étiiire,
 puis:
 --
 PXE (qq autres lettres) no boot filename received
 exiting PXE-ROM
 --
 J'en conclus, peut-être à tort (mais je me pardonne dans ce cas, car le
 feedback n'est pas des plus clairs), que la demande DHCP échoue. Et
 j'imagine que, peut-être, auparavant, je ne voyais pas cette phase au
 démarrage si elle réussissait alors, et que donc mon ordi recevait ses
 données DHCP, ce quasi-instantanément (pas de raison que ça dure des
 heures, j'imagine, surtout si le serveur est local). Ca vous paraît un
 scénario plausible?


 Hum, je suis pas sûr, mais il me semble que PXE-ROM c'est pour des
 histoires de boot en réseau comme le dit Olivier...


  En ce qui concerne dhclient, voici le résultat de la commande:

 Listening on LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
 Sending on LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
 Sending on Socket/fallback
 DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
 DHCPOFFER of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
 DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.3 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
 DHCPACK of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
 bound to 192.168.1.3 -- renewal in 6 seconds.

 J'aimerais bien pouvoir interpréter cela: ça signfierait que je sais
 quelle genre de données sont sensées être présentes dans tel ou tel cas
 (avec ou sans demande DHCP, en cas d'échec ou de réussite, usage ou non
 de network manager, et j'en passe...).


 De ce que je vois, le DHCP fonctionne sans aucun problème, donc ca ne viens
 pas de la box.

 Pour en savoir un peu plus sur le DHCP :
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Host_Configuration_Protocol

 En gros, ce qu'il y'a à retenir c'est
 * DHCPOFFER : un serveur dhcp a été trouvé sur le réseau.
 * boundto  : Une adresse IP a été attribuée à la machine.


  J'imagine que rien ne changera donc non plus si je supprime cette ligne.
 (Mais je préfère demander au kazou.)


 Et ca donne quoi une demande faîte au kazoo.
 ( Désolé, fallait que je la fasse -_-' )


  Je préférerais laisser ou rétablir la méthode la plus ordinaire. Pour
 info au cas où, j'ai installé la 10.10 il ya qq jours, et ça n'a rien
 changé sur ce plan-là. (Mais ça a viré un autre bug, en l'occurrence que
 le démarrage s'arrêtait en login console.)


 En fait les deux se valent hormis le fait que la connexion réseau sera
 établie avant que l'interface graphique ne soit lancée.

 A+

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Re: DHCP côté client

2011-01-14 Thread toto chambio

Le 14/01/2011 12:13, spir a écrit :


Listening on LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:19:db:fd:57:29
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.3 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK of 192.168.1.3 from 192.168.1.1
bound to 192.168.1.3 -- renewal in 6 seconds.

Moi ce qui me pose probleme, c'est ce renewal in 6 seconds. Ca veut 
dire qu'au bout de 6 secondes, ton ordi doit refaire un échange de 
messages avec la box pour savoir si son adresse ip est toujours valide.
J'ai une box de chez Orange au boulot, mais je n'ai pas vu dans la 
config de dhcp un moyen de régler la durée de lease (le temps ou ton 
ordi peut considérer son adresse comme valide), ni même de voir à 
combien elle était fixée... Qui plus est, il existe plusieurs marques et 
modèles de box chez oranges, qui ne se configurent pas nécessairement de 
la même manière...
Si d'autres gens de la liste confirment que 6 secondes c'est trop cout, 
j'essaierais de négocier avec Orange un changement de la box. Mais bonne 
chance pour trouver un interlocuteur au bout du fil qui soit capable de 
comprendre...


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Logiciel Traducteur avec des balises inutiles à la lecture...

2011-01-14 Thread Lami René

Bonjour,

J'utilise « Translatoid » et « Traducteur GNOME 0.99 » pour la 
traduction de texte en anglais vers le français, mais mes traductions 
ressemblent à ceci :


Texte d'origine :
=
lspgpot
 Section: User Commands (1)
NAME
 lspgpot - extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and list 
them in GnuPG ownertrust format.

SYNOPSIS
lspgpot
DESCRIPTION
lspgpot extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and list them 
in GnuPG ownertrust format.

AUTHOR
 Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Please report bugs 
to bug-gn...@gnu.org.

 This manpage was written by Francois Wendling frwendl...@free.fr.
 Generated by kio_man, KDE version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)
=

Texte traduit :
=
span title=lspgpot onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpotbr /spanspan 
title=Section: User Commands (1) 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Commandes de 
l'utilisateur (1): Sectionbr/spanspan title=NAME 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'NOMbr /spanspan 
title=lspgpot - extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and 
list them in GnuPG ownertrust format. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpot - extrait les 
valeurs de trousseaux de clés PGP ownertrust et les liste en format 
ownertrust GnuPG.br/spanspan title=SYNOPSIS 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'SYNOPSISbr/spanspan 
title=lspgpot onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpotbr/spanspan 
title=DESCRIPTION onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'DESCRIPTIONbr/spanspan 
title=lspgpot extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and list 
them in GnuPG ownertrust format. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpot extrait les 
valeurs de trousseaux de clés PGP ownertrust et les liste en format 
ownertrust GnuPG.br/spanspan title=AUTHOR 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'AUTEURbr /spanspan 
title=Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Please report 
bugs to bug-gn...@gnu.org. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Copyright (C) 2002 Free 
Software Foundation, Inc S'il vous plaît de signaler les bugs à 
bug-gn...@gnu.org.br /spanspan title=This manpage was written by 
Francois Wendling frwendl...@free.fr. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Cette page de manuel a 
été écrit par François Wendling frwendl...@free.fr./span/span
span title=Generated by kio_man, KDE version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Généré par kio_man, la 
version KDE 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)/span/span

=

Les deux Traducteurs ajoutent des balises inutiles à la lecture, comment 
éviter l'ajout de ces balises dans la traduction ?


Merci d'avance pour toute aide !

L'ami René

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Logiciel Traducteur avec des balises inutiles à la lecture (complément d'information)...

2011-01-14 Thread Lami René

Bonjour,

J'utilise « Translatoid » et « Traducteur GNOME 0.99 » pour la 
traduction de texte en anglais vers le français, mais mes traductions 
ressemblent à ceci :


=
Translatoid :
=
Texte d'origine :
=
GNOME frontend to online translator engines

With this program you can translate text, web pages and request suggestions
using online translation engines. Currently supported translators are 
Google,

Yahoo, Open-Tran and FreeTranslation. Features include tabbed consulting,
=

Texte traduit :
=
[[[interface GNOME pour les moteurs de traduction en ligne\n\n,GNOME 
frontend to online translator engines,,],[Avec ce programme vous 
pouvez traduire du texte, pages web et de suggestions demande\n,With 
this program you can translate text, web pages and request 
suggestions,,],[en utilisant les moteurs de traduction en ligne. 
,using online translation engines.,,],[Actuellement traducteurs 
sont pris en charge Google,\n,Currently supported translators are 
Google,,,],[Yahoo, Open-Tran et FreeTranslation. ,Yahoo, 
Open-Tran and FreeTranslation.,,],[Les caractéristiques 
comprennent consultation par onglets,\n,Features include tabbed 
consulting,,,],[automatiquement copier et coller depuis / vers le 
presse-papiers, extensible de manière très facile\n,automatically copy 
and paste from/to clipboard, expandible in a very easy way,,],[par 
écrit modules traducteur, facile à utiliser et à configurer,\n,by 
writing translator modules, easy to use and to 
configure,,,],[localisées (anglais, italien), une bonne 
intégration avec d'écran gratuits\n,localized (currently English, 
Italian), good integration with free desktop,,],[environnements 
(principalement dans GNOME).\n\n,environments (mostly in 
GNOME).,,],[Canonical fournit NE critiques Pas les Mises à jour 
versez FreeSpeak. ,Canonical ne fournit pas les mises à jour critiques 
pour freespeak.,,],[Des Mises à jours may être de fournies par la 
Communauté Ubuntu.,Des mises à jours peuvent être fournies par la 
communauté Ubuntu.,,]],,en,,[[Interface 
GNOME,[4],1,,1000,0,2,0],[pour,[5],1,,261,2,3,0],[les 
moteurs,[6],1,,192,3,5,0],[de traduction en 
ligne,[7],1,,986,5,9,0],[\n\n0,0,0,0],[Avec ce 
programme,[22],1,,152,0,3,1],[vous,[23],1,,133,3,4,1],[pouvez 
traduire du 
texte,[24],1,,324,4,8,1],[,,[25],,,699,8,9,1],[pages,[26],1,,554,9,10,1],[web,[27],1,,522,10,11,1],[et 
de,[28],1,,184,11,13,1],[suggestions,[29],1,,536,13,14,1],[demande,[30],1,,1000,14,15,1],[\n0,0,0,0],[en 
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bonne intégration avec,[1069],1,,367,7,11,1],[d'écran 

Re: Logiciel Traducteur avec des balises inutiles à la lecture...

2011-01-14 Thread david96

Le 14/01/2011 19:17, Lami René a écrit :

Bonjour,

J'utilise « Translatoid » et « Traducteur GNOME 0.99 » pour la 
traduction de texte en anglais vers le français, mais mes traductions 
ressemblent à ceci :


Texte d'origine :
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lspgpot
 Section: User Commands (1)
NAME
 lspgpot - extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and list 
them in GnuPG ownertrust format.

SYNOPSIS
lspgpot
DESCRIPTION
lspgpot extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and list them 
in GnuPG ownertrust format.

AUTHOR
 Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Please report bugs 
to bug-gn...@gnu.org.

 This manpage was written by Francois Wendling frwendl...@free.fr.
 Generated by kio_man, KDE version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)
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Texte traduit :
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span title=lspgpot 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpotbr 
/spanspan title=Section: User Commands (1) 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Commandes de 
l'utilisateur (1): Sectionbr/spanspan title=NAME 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'NOMbr /spanspan 
title=lspgpot - extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and 
list them in GnuPG ownertrust format. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpot - extrait les 
valeurs de trousseaux de clés PGP ownertrust et les liste en format 
ownertrust GnuPG.br/spanspan title=SYNOPSIS 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'SYNOPSISbr/spanspan title=lspgpot 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpotbr/spanspan 
title=DESCRIPTION onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'DESCRIPTIONbr/spanspan 
title=lspgpot extracts the ownertrust values from PGP keyrings and 
list them in GnuPG ownertrust format. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'lspgpot extrait les 
valeurs de trousseaux de clés PGP ownertrust et les liste en format 
ownertrust GnuPG.br/spanspan title=AUTHOR 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'AUTEURbr /spanspan 
title=Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Please report 
bugs to bug-gn...@gnu.org. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Copyright (C) 2002 Free 
Software Foundation, Inc S'il vous plaît de signaler les bugs à 
bug-gn...@gnu.org.br /spanspan title=This manpage was written 
by Francois Wendling frwendl...@free.fr. 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Cette page de manuel a 
été écrit par François Wendling frwendl...@free.fr./span/span
span title=Generated by kio_man, KDE version 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) 
onmouseover=this.style.backgroundColor='#ebeff9' 
onmouseout=this.style.backgroundColor='#fff'Généré par kio_man, la 
version KDE 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1)/span/span
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Les deux Traducteurs ajoutent des balises inutiles à la lecture, 
comment éviter l'ajout de ces balises dans la traduction ?


Merci d'avance pour toute aide !

L'ami René


Bonsoir,

Apparemment il crée des balises HTML, que tu peux lire avec ton 
navigateur, exemple de ton exemple : http://www.concepteursite.com/test.html


C'est du HML4 (plutôt ancien), charset UTF-8.--

Amicalement.

David Prudhon
Chef de projet Internet de www.emploitheque.org (Emploi fonction publique)


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