Re: [Ubuntu-be] An Intrepid Installparty near you ???
Le samedi 5 juillet 2008 11:53, Bart Broeckx a écrit : > (...) if somebody wants to translate it, please feel free to > do so. Thx Met hulp van Kramers' : * Salut les Ubuntero's Après le succès des Install Parties pour la sortie de Hardy en Hollande et en Belgique, il est temps de porter notre attention sur les prochaines Parties... La sortie de "Intrepid Ibex" est prévue le 30 octobre. Les "Parties" devraient donc se dérouler aux alentours de la mi-novembre. Comme il ne s'agira pas d'une version LTS, nous n'allons pas organiser une grande Release Party mais le but est que, aussi bien en Hollande qu'en Belgique, se déroulent des petites Install Parties locales. Par "petite Party" nous entendons une Party pour 25 à 100 personnes. Cette fois, ces Install Parties ne seraient pas organisées par les membres d'Ubuntu-be ou Ubuntu-nl mais par la communauté avec notre soutien. Nous nous voyons donc contraints à faire appel de nouveau à nos membres. Mais bon, avec des milliers d'Ubuntero's, il devrait théoriquement être possible d'organiser des Install Parties en quelques endroits. *Quel objectif voulons-nous atteindre?* L'idéal serait d'avoir une Release Party dans chaque province (bien entendu c'est peu probable mais c'est l'objectif à atteindre). Nous souhaitons également maximum 1 Party par province : au cas où plusieurs Parties viendraient à se préparer dans la même province, nous essaierions de les fusionner en 1 Party. *De quoi avons-nous besoin?* Une petite salle (gratuite) pour 25 à 100 personnes. C'est souvent disponible auprès d'écoles, de clubs informatiques ou autres associations, par exemple les LUGs locaux. Collaborer avec eux simplifiera la tâche. Vous connaissez près de chez vous un club informatique ou une association "Linux" qui dispose d'une petite salle ? Contactez-les, ils sont souvent disposés à collaborer. *Une connection internet* .. Ca me semble logique :-) *Des boissons* Des bacs de bière et de boissons fraîches, du café,... En libre service et payant. *Des orateurs* Ne nous semble pas nécessaire ou souhaitable en raison de la petite échelle des actions. A moins qu'une personne soit prête à donner des explications sur Ubuntu aux débutants et nouveaux venus. *Un stand installation* C'est la base de l'action : des gens aident à l'installation. *Un stand demo* Toujours chouette. A faire, certainement. *Site web* http://intrepid.releaseparty.be et http://intrepid.releaseparty.eu (pas encore actif) devraient être utilisés à cette fin. Sur ces sites nous rassemblerons toute l'information sur les évènements locaux. Les gens qui organisent une Party y auront droit à 1 page qu'ils pourront librement aranger et adapter. Des questions ? N'hésitez pas :-) Bart Broeckx * -- snulkid Steun de Walen die gaan maar fietsen ;-)) : http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/belgique/manifestation-a-velo-pour-le-2008-07-05-613544.shtml http://stopchb.be/Roulons-pour-le-pouvoir-d-achat-mais-a.html http://www.rtc.be/content/view/5513/166/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Meedoen met Ubuntu Belgiê
Waw! Wat een mooie voorstelling (samen met mijn gratis Nederlands oefening) ! De perfecte vrijwilliger :-) Welkom ! -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Memories
Dear list I would like to make some cleaning of my web space, and found 2 small series of pictures related to ubuntu-be : http://home.scarlet.be/reratz/pt-support-lg/ http://home.scarlet.be/reratz/dipro-lg/ Could someone in charge copy them if needed, then warn me when I can delete them ? Thkx -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Talenkwestie
Le jeudi 10 avril 2008 00:29, Amedee Van Gasse a écrit : > > mensen wel engels/frans/nederlands kunnen lezen en deze dat het > > niet kunnen is het een perfecte oefening. > > (...) Perfect and goedkoop! Maar... oefeningen die over Ubuntu gaan zijn even meer interessant ;-) > Je trouve que nous, au lieu dire des conneries au sujet de la > langue, améliorent en bas le ajouter et couper ce qui est superflu > dans ere se remettraient. Aussi, le changement de sujet pour que le > fil soit démoli, nous arrêterions mieux. Well, Amedee, I'm glad you did not begin with Russian, or I would have deleted your mail together with those Russian spams ;-)) Your French translator sucks, but I completely agree with your request. Allez, nog een gooie dag à turto, èdon! -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] reminder: language use
Hello Le lundi 25 février 2008 09:03, Thijs Braem a écrit : > I would agree on the fact that is's a bit weird and contrary to the > 'ubuntu spirit' that everything seems to be happening mostly in > dutch only. Well, till now, the fact is most of the activity seems to be happening in the Dutch-speaking area. And in this case, people were often kind enough to begin with a statement in English saying the message was about an event in Flanders, so they would go on in Dutch. I really don't know what the best solution is, but there should be a balance between efforts and optimal spread of information. So 3 things worth mentioning : * for non-geeks like me, ubuntu-be mailing-list and Fosdem are the only meeting points for Dutch- and French-speaking people concerned with FOSS. This is precious! But Fosdem being an international event, their use of English is no argument in our case. * this mailing-list is also an opportunity for readers to read French and Dutch messages. No kidding : you want to know what is said because you are interested, so you make the effort; that is why I choose the off-topic example of Regionet Limburg. I am too lazy/busy to go back to school, so ubuntu-be is now my Dutch teatcher ;-). The fact it is written also makes things easier by reducing the requested efforts : when I went to the Colony BBQ in Heverlee, people like Amedee, Christophe, Mark, Tille.. were kind enough to try to speak English and even French for me but you can't ask 30 people not to speak Dutch just because of 1 person. The balance again... I just have to improve my pathetic spoken Dutch and/or get more Walloons to join me, period. * better an information in Dutch or French than no information in English. Just 0.02 EUR from a hibernating reader (who does not read all messages, so sorry if I missed some points). Have a nice day -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Fosdem 2008
Good evening I don't know if Ubuntu is the most used Linux distro, if I should improve my Dutch (#) to read most of the messages here, if there will be a tram in Liege (#) or if God exists, but the fact is free software has got media attention tonight : I just saw images from Fosdem (with an interview of Christophe Vandeplas (##)) at RTBF evening news. A bit strange indeed : no mention of the words Linux, Ubuntu, or even... Fosdem! No mention of OLPC project when showing them (so most people probably understood it was just another "low cost laptop"). But at least, they insist on the "alternative to Windows", and Christophe mentioned Firefox and Gimp.. Enjoy your Fosdem! (#) Off-topic P.S. : Well, I *should* improve it, of course. Apart from the arguments given by Koen, it would also be easier for me to read this : http://www.humanhub.nl/Regionet_Limburg.pdf (http://www.humanhub.nl/Regionet_Limburg.html) If some people out Limburg could tell me in private what is happening now with this project, I would be very interested. (##) On-topic P.S.: ...but unfortunately, they did not interview Tille. To prevent another car pollution peak tomorrow in Brussels ? -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] GRP in Liege
(I kept most of Pierre's message for LiLiT commitee members in CC, so sorry for the long email but don't worry : after that, I'm starting to hibernate ;-) Le lundi 29 octobre 2007 13:28, Pierre Vorhagen a écrit : > > (...) the "Liege branch" of ubuntu-be has a problem... > Yes, the Liège branch has a problem I'd say... in so far that there > are not enough (are there any?) people actually *from* Liège > (...) snulkid (you consider yourself part of ubuntu-be? No > The problem is, I think, that there is nothing central... the LUG > is dying out, or at least not so very active I understood (on the > internet site it is still written that the next LMP is the 4th of > October... we wanted maybe to come again with Yorrit), there are > other organizations that are all more or less trying to do their > thing (like Bawet or N-Hitec (the engineers tend to install Linux > on their machines by themselves, without even knowing that Lilit or > ubuntu-be exist)) and then there is ubuntu-be, that is not really > very active, and probably rather non-existent... > > As the most active group is still LiLiT, maybe start off from > there. It is what we had in mind with Yorrit... getting more > students to LiLiT, based on Ubuntu of course. We were pretty > surprised to see that the average age was about 20 years more than > ours, considering that LiLiT is an official student "circle"... We > will come to the next LMP, don't know when, and I propose that we > discuss this then, with all Liège located ubuntu-be members and > LiLiT... Else, if a closer collaboration is not really wished or > possible, all ubuntu-be members can meet in a café somewhere in > Liège (the Shamrock on top off Rue St Gilles for example, that guy > is on Xubuntu and Ubuntu and also regretted that there isn't more > activity on Liège.). > I don't really care how we do this (if it is with LiLiT, fine for > me), but if we had some active people that actually are from Liège > and live there, it would still be possible to have an active > ubuntu-be branch. Pierre, I'm quite confused that an opinion about ubuntu-be leads to comments about LiLiT (and Bawet) but, to make things clear, here are a few points : * first a personal one : for "internal" reasons I will not comment, I'm currently leaving the LiLiT commitee, and will probably also stop most of my FLOSS-related activities (so, Mark, sorry but I won't attend your winter meeting..). I also won't attend this week LiLiT "Linux Meeting Party" but anybody is welcome, of course : http://www.lilit.be/index.php?page=contact#LMP * LiLiT website was just out of date. I just updated it. LiLiT is certainly not "dying out", at least compared to most other LUGs, and even if they currently lack people, Bawet is regurlarly organising LIPs, in alternance with LiLiT (who will maybe organise another one before end of 2007). Just have a look at our "old news" : http://www.lilit.be/index.php?page=archives activity reports : http://www.lilit.be/wiki/index.php?header=full&page=PvAgOr050420#Annexe1%3Arapportdactivit%E9s2004 http://www.lilit.be/wiki/index.php?header=full&page=PvAgOr060308#Annexe1%3Arapportdactivit%E9s2005 http://www.lilit.be/wiki/index.php?header=full&page=PvAgOr070308#Annexe1%3Arapportdactivit%E9s2006 and our (rather incomplete) photo galleries to get an idea of what we did. * about the canceled Ubuntu/N-Hitec Party : if someone is to be blamed on the LiLiT side, this is me because I should have re-contacted Laurent earlier (we met at LiLiT LIP on July 7th) and be more careful about the LIP : it surreptitiously moved from a "N-Hitec LIP with LiLiT support" to a "LiLiT-in-charge-of-it LIP". On October 18th, LiLiT had a meeting, where people said once again there were unavailable on a working day; our president also inform Laurent had set an appointment with him next Monday. This was just before Laurent canceled the event. So, you can blame N-Hitec, ubuntu-be local members, maybe the ULg bureaucracy, maybe me, but not LiLiT. * it has always been clear that LiLiT (or Bawet) is not going to give support to "engineers" or other professionals : we cannot do that (not even invoice something), given our statutes. N-Hitec can, I guess. * LiLiT is an ULg circle for historical reasons. Right now, among our 26 members, we have 2 ULg students and 3 ULg workers. We would be glad you "get us more students", even "based on Ubuntu of course" (we are "distro-neutral"). But first, LiLiT is not involved in (or part of) ubuntu-be and second, we made several attemps in the past years (October 25th would have been a new one) to target the students without any real success. We also had contacts with other circles (Fédé staf
[Ubuntu-be] GRP in Liege
Hello Some feedback about the Gutsy Install Party in Liege last Saturday : * Bawet had prepared a local ubuntu mirror and some scripts, to be able to manage a lot of installations with few volunteers. Leaving aside the pro/con compared to the use of a proxy, at least it works and they will re-use it, especially for LIPs where internet access is an issue. * very few visitors, 2 or 3 ubuntu installations. Those visitors seem to be Bawet related people. * nobody for a demo, so I didn't make the speech I had more or less prepared due to the lack of other volunteer. * 4 volunteers from Bawet, 4 "volunteers" (they had nothing to do) from LiLiT (including me), nobody from ubuntu-be. Conclusions : * obviously, the "Train Action" advertising was unefficient, maybe because you cannot get students on Saturday, as Laurent Sibilla said. * compared to what has been reported here about other GRP (congratulations to Hasselt people!!), the "Liege branch" of ubuntu-be has a problem... (or is it just my feeling? Anyway, I don't feel concerned anymore). Have a nice day -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Computers in schools
Le lundi 22 octobre 2007 10:36, snulkid a écrit : > http://old.rtbf.be/media/radio/alademande/prem_jeune_1500/prem_jeun >e_1500.mp3 In case someone is interested but does'nt want to waste time searching for most interesting parts, here is a timeline I just received : 00:00:00 Journal; sujet sur la délinquance 00:09:45 Cyber-classes 00:12:00 école du futur à Mons 00:18:10 nouvelles technologies et éducation 00:21:00 témoignage des 'anciens' de l'école du futur 00:25:00 présentation des intervenants 00:30:00 les NTICs en milieu populaire 00:31:50 mheu non, l'école du futur n'est pas huppée... 00:33:00 e-twining (échanges inter-classes) 00:36:00 universités virtuelles (l'ULB et les nouvelles technologies) 00:43:00 Microsoft 00:47:55 OLPC, initiative Microsoft? 00:50:00 Linux 00:54:00 Wikipedia 00:54:50 être acteur 00:56:00 OpenSource, pas fiable? 00:58:00 - pub, journal, groupe de jeunes musiciens 01:17:00 ceux qui sortent de l'école du futur sont-ils meilleurs? 01:20:00 Microsoft : 1 PC par élève 01:24:00 Linux : serveur + clients légers (question de maintenance) 01:26:00 difficile d'acheter un PC sans Windows pré-installé 01:27:40 "Monsieur n'a pas bien cherché..." ;-) 01:28:45 les gens achètent Windows pour l'Innovation, sa stabilité, sa sécurité ;-)) 01:29:35 OpenUniversity (cher) 01:33:00 Passeport TIC - cyber-écoles - Communauté Française 01:39:00 logiciel libre, une question d'éthique 01:43:00 cyber-tricherie 01:45:00 http://www.claroline.net 01:46:50 solidarité des bonnes idées, collaborations 01:51:00 utiliser des termes génériques et favoriser les outils portables. Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Computers in schools
Hi As promised to g-traxx yesterday at Liege Guillemins, here is a link I received : http://old.rtbf.be/media/radio/alademande/prem_jeune_1500/prem_jeune_1500.mp3 It's a (quite long) French-speaking radio talk about an experimental school with computer-intensive education. The most relevant part (short extracts) are comments of the Microsoft representative "opposed" to a well-known "old geek" ;-) called Alain Empain. But there is also a representative of the "Communauté Française" administration, in charge of education and computer-related actions. So it might be useful for ubuntu-be to get aware of it, to better target the teaching community. (by the way, I haven't seen it yet, but here is a speech onze Tille gave at RMLL2007 about the SELF project : http://2007.rmll.info/video509.html ) Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Formation Ubuntu
Le dimanche 21 octobre 2007 13:19, orbitalfunky a écrit : > l'actions a la gare des guillemins est toujours prévue car je me > prépare pour partir tout a l'heure ? Oui (je suis en train de découper des flyers A5). RV 17h à l'entrée de la passerelle côté rue Varin (côté Ville) -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Formation Ubuntu
> > I just drop a mail to Bawet asking for 150~200 copies I got a reply, we should at least have these. Thanks a lot to Bawet and to Christophe for the PDF. -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Formation Ubuntu
Le samedi 20 octobre 2007 16:17, vous avez écrit : > Here you can find different versions: > http://vandeplas.com/tmp/ubuntu/ Thanks for the work (even without corrections) ! Too late for me (I'm not in town and have no car), but I hope someone can print copies before tomorrow 17.00. I just drop a mail to Bawet asking for 150~200 copies, but not sure it will be possible. Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Formation Ubuntu
Le samedi 20 octobre 2007 10:52, snulkid a écrit : > After corrections (see below), I need someone to send me a PDF > ready for printing (...) > If I get this by mid-afternoon, I will go to print it. No reply. OK, I'll be tomorrow 17.00 at Liege station entrance. If someone comes with flyers to distribute before 17.45, great. Otherwise I'll have a drink and get back home. A + -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Formation Ubuntu
Le samedi 20 octobre 2007 10:52, snulkid a écrit : > 3. I sent an email to Bawet but anyway, I think (and take > responsability) they don't mind being mentioned on the flyer. I got a positive reply from Bawet coordinator. A room with beamer near the Install Party will be available for a Gutsy demo : volunteer welcome (otherwise I will have to do the demo, which is maybe not the best idea (see my nickname)) -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Formation Ubuntu
Hello About the flyer and Liege Guillemins action : 1. Flyer is here : http://home.scarlet.be/rratz/ubu/flyer-FR.xcf I don't use Gimp. When trying to print it, I get this ugly result : http://home.scarlet.be/rratz/ubu/flyer-FR-ugly.pdf After corrections (see below), I need someone to send me a PDF ready for printing (meaning A4 300 or 600dpi with 2 flyers side by side (to make A5 flyers, otherwise I guess text and flyer itself are too big : OK?)). If I get this by mid-afternoon, I will go to print it. Costs refund (not important) will be discussed later with Mark, but important questions are : * how many A4 printings (with 2 A5 flyers on it) ? * white paper or not ? (I often use "sun yellow") 2. Corrections to be done to text : * "faible utilisation" est ambigu. Je propose de remplacer : "et fameux pour sa faible utilisation des" par "et d'utilisation optimale des" * "multitude de logiciel" --> "multitude de logiciels" * "retouche d'images, aux" --> "retouches d'images aux" * je pense que "tester par soi-même" est plus correct que "tester de soi-même"; mais il y a surtout manque de clarté sur la possibilité d'installation assistée le 27/10 donc je propose de réécrire les 2 dernières lignes comme suit : Les faire installer sur votre ordinateur ? RV le 27/10 : voir www.bawet.org (ou "Rendez-vous" s'il y a la place) 3. I sent an email to Bawet but anyway, I think (and take responsability) they don't mind being mentioned on the flyer. Hope to hear from you -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Formation Ubuntu
Hello Laurent (and the others) Le vendredi 19 octobre 2007 16:17, Laurent Sibilla a écrit : > Next to a lot of issues we had to organize the Ubuntu Release Party > at ULg, I have to announce that this event is cancelled. (...) I will comment later this WE (and have another personal announce to make). No problem for me with this cancelation. But my urgent question is : what about the action at Liège Guillemins station on Sunday ? If there are flyers to be distributed, I can be there as planned. I guess it is too late for the Liege Dipro fair mentioned by Cédric but, if Liege ubunteros want to do something, I suggest they help (and invite people to go) at the Bawet "Gutsy Release Install Party" on Saturday 27th : http://www.bawet.org/article.php3?id_article=128 A + -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CDs Ubuntu en quantité suffisante ?
> Op donderdag 11-10-2007 om 00:03 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef olive: >> La pochette (carton) sera traduite en français. > > Which means it's only (really) useful in the French-speaking part of > Belgium, I guess...? Quoting ubuntu-fr forum : " La seule valeur ajoutée au CDs officiel est la pochette carton traduite en français et la référence à ubuntu-fr.org." Apart from the lack of ubuntu-be mention, is the CD cover worth the effort (and the price, compared to free CDs from Canonical) ? At LiLiT, we use to make covers with a folded A4 sheet, and you could also fold a sheet on the CD and inside the official cover, to make sure people can't miss these Dutch or French explanations. N-Hitec will make Lightscribe CDs for Liege Party. I'm curious to see what it looks like... My 0.02 EUR -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Gutsy Release Party at ULg Liege
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2007 18:43, Pierre Vorhagen a écrit : > Si tu souhaite l'emmener aux Guillemins je me joins en tout cas à > Cédric en te conseillant de bien le sécuriser... aussi faudra-t-il > penser alors à emmener une table, des chaises, une rallonge > peut-être et espérer qu'on ne nous vire pas de la gare, compte tenu > qu'on aura alors un vrai "stand"... Mmmm... I've been thinking about this. The station is open : http://www.euro-liege-tgv.be/ so it could be quite cold. Moreover, the only passing point is the gateway about the railways, and I suspect it would not be tolerated to take some place, interfering with travelers flow. So here is my suggestion : the person with the laptop would sit in the small station café, and we will inform all people we meet that they can get a free demo by joining him there. I know there is a small café in the temporary station but I have to check that it has tables and some place. If we kindly ask the café owner, I guess it will be possible to get some power for the laptop batteries. What do you think ? -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Gutsy Release Party at ULg Liege
> je suis disponible les autres dates aussi car je présente mes propres > conception open source dans liège aussi donc cela me ferai un petit > plus Great ! Do you mean available for the Install Party or as a speaker ? (or both? ;-) > 2007/10/10, orbitalfunky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> ok je veux bien venir le 21/10 et me rendre utille >> je peux présenter une installation d'ubuntu sans problème. I don't know if we will have a beamer and, given the present layout of the station, I'm not sure there is a place where it can fit. So it would rather be speaking with people while giving them the flyer. Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Gutsy Release Party at ULg Liege
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2007 04:24, orbitalfunky a écrit : > Bonsoir, je viendrai le 21/10 a la gare des guillemins, si je peux > me rendre utile Great! You've been added to the wiki page. The Gutsy Party should take place on Thrusday 25th : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseParty/Gutsy/Liege18-10-2007 (#) We still need volunteers : speakers (especially for the most technical session) and people able to smoothly install Ubuntu for the Install Party in the afternoon. Please let you know ! (#) question to the webmaster : is it possible to rename this page "Liege2007" ? Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Gutsy Release Party at ULg Liege J-11
Hi After a very long "couple of days" and some contacts, a draft page is online : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseParty/Gutsy/Liege18-10-2007 I have to leave now till this afternoon but as you will see, we now need volunteers, so Liege and Belgium ubunteros, stand up! Regards -- snulkid (LiLiT, Liege) -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] status update: fairs, release parties, posters, meeting
Le lundi 24 septembre 2007 20:57, vous avez écrit : > The date is fixed to the 18th October. Laurent, you wrote the opposite 2 weeks ago. Are you *sure* of this date (meaning : are you sure you will get rooms and authorisations ?). If answer is yes, then the next point would be to be allowed (if needed) to distribute plenty of flyers among the many students coming the festival ! By the way, here is the link : http://www.unifestival.org/ (maybe not reachable right now) Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2007 16:45, Pierre Vorhagen a écrit : > snulkid I joined the lilit mailing list a few days ago Great ! Laurent, several ULg people, and (present or former) ULg students (including Arlon FSUGAr members) are on this list. So I will post a call there and report any important information on the ubuntu-be wiki. > to go meet you at l'élysée on thursday 4th to (maybe) join LiLiT. You're welcome! > Contact me, I go back to Liège this evening, we can meet an evening > during the week if you want, I kot rue Louvrex (Saint Gilles side) I take note of it. But I would like to put a report online so that things are clear before making appointments. I also have to deal with some "stuff" for a couple of days. P.S. Among the new Fédé team, an administrator named André Vanderschelden comes from HEC too. Maybe you could get in touch with him to see if he is interested in free software promotion... See you soon -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Of Alexandre's (un)availability...
Le samedi 22 septembre 2007 00:08, Alexandre Ficelle a écrit : > this is a very special time in my life. Especially knowing that the > next step is most likely "populating" this new house, if you see > what I mean... Well, Alex, you know what they say :"release soon, release often!" (sorry, sorry, could not resist...) See what is awaiting you :-)) : http://home.scarlet.be/rratz/margaux-tux3.jpg -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2007 15:36, Pierre Vorhagen a écrit : > I am student in Liège and willing to help! Received loud and clear ;-) > Anyways, trying to reach the students is a good idea. Well, apart from the "trains station action", there is an event foreseen for that : the Ubuntu event on ULg campus (see Laurent Sibilla previous mails). LiLiT (Liege LUG) has been asked to be in charge of the LIP part : preparing it (room, servers, computers) is OK and we have members working on the ULg campus. But our members have a big problem being available for a working day event (even on Friday). So, Pierre, could you "hunt" for volunteers among your fellow students ? Since we don't know the date yet, may I create the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseParty/Gutsy/Liege2007 to write things down ? -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2007 12:17, François Cauwe a écrit : > Leuven contains more than 600 students. The idea would be to (1) > come with a projector, and project a presentation or a ubuntu > desktop on a wall or screen at the exit. The new Liège Guillemins underground is full of space and wonderful (sort of JFK airport TWA terminal...) but you'll have to wait 1 more year or 2 to get access to it ;-)) > Do you need a authorisation to redistribute flyers on the public > road? I think you have to write in on it "Niet op de openbare weg > gooien." (Don't throw on the public road). For the "Fête de l'internet 2005", our LUG wanted to get max. visibility by using a room or booth in the very center of Liege (place Cathédrale : see http://lilit.be/photos.php?gal=fete-internet). It turned out to be an administrative nightmare : you have to ask (and maybe to pay taxes) to the City council, with a 3 months delay(!), to be allowed to have a booth, to distribute flyers, to be clothed as a pinguin, to put advertising posters on a window facing the street, to put a network cable passing even a pedestrian street, etc. Finally, we made an agreement with the "Médiathèque" asbl and the TEC (to use their bus stop) because they already had the needed authorisations. So, as Cédric said and even if things cannot be worse than in Liege, be careful ! Greetings -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: Gutsy Release Parties]
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2007 00:13, Laurent Sibilla a écrit : > As lilit already know (I heard it yesterday), there is Unifestival > the same day. OK (I wasn't informed) > So we will change this date and communicate the new one asap. > > W-E it's not really a good idea... mainly because we want students > to come. > > Would it be easy for you to get volunteers if we do it on friday > night ? Yes, probably. We will make a call with the dates you will propose (26/10 ? 2/11? ...). But keep in mind that our contribution is just a part of the event, the availability of Ubuntu-be members for speeches and demos is more important IMHO. Have a nice day -- snulkid (LiLiT asbl) -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: Gutsy Release Parties]
Hello Le lundi 3 septembre 2007 16:03, Julien Willem a écrit : > Donc, le but, comme vous l'avez compris, est d'organiser un > événement international (France, Belgique, ..) > Comme indiqué sur le site http://www.ubuntu-party.org/, il est > prévu de faire ça le 3 et le 4 novembre (pour avoir les CD et avoir > le temps de se faire à Gutsy :-). (...) > pourquoi ne pas proposer à Ubuntu-nl une collaboration également ? > Pareil avec Ubuntu-de. On peut faire de cet évènement francophone > international un évènement international multilingue. > Au niveau francophone, nous avions pensé à Liège et Bruxelles. (...) > Je veux également insister sur le fait que Ubuntu-fr est prêt à > nous aider pour l'organisation. (...) Le jeudi 6 septembre 2007 17:22, Laurent Sibilla a écrit : > > It should be the day of the release, the 18th of October (I > > hope Gutsy to not be delayed :) ). > > > > 18/10/2007 is close, but with the beta and all the updates you'll > > have a good idea of the distro when it is released. > > I don't think there will be much changed if the official release > > is delayed. > > I think so :). Instead of the Ship-it we are willing to provide > printed CDs with Ubuntu, LiLit and N-HiTec logos First things first : are commitments already done for October 18th or are we going to follow Julien's suggestion ? I would like to know asap so that we can call for volunteers among LiLiT members. Note that November 3-4th is a WE : on one hand students will not be already on the campus and some will be back home, far from Liege. On the other hand, it will be easier to get rooms, volunteers (at least from our side) and the party could become a Saturday Night Ubunty party (in the hell of Liege downtown or... anyone connected with the Millenium ? ;-P) Laurent, it's up to you. Keep us informed. Regards -- snulkid (LiLiT, Liege) -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: Gutsy Release Parties]
Le Samedi 1 Septembre 2007 18:21, Laurent Sibilla a écrit : > the same time ? Or may be french speaker and dutsch speaker ? Indeed. I guess not all Dutch-speaking activists will come to Liège. > I had contacts with Alexandre Ficelle about this but last mails > didn't get answers... I saw Alex at "Retrouvailles" in Liège this afternoon, where LiLiT has a booth. He explained he was a bit disconnected because he had to deal with a home move. He will be soon back to prepare the party in Liege. Have a nice Sunday -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu in the "press"
Le mercredi 15 août 2007 12:50, Cedric Janssens a écrit : > http://www.lepodcasthightech.com/baladodiffusion/belgique/ Great ! And well geared to the general audience. Shouldn't the 9' interview (or at least a link) make its way to the french-speaking homepage of ubuntu-be ? -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu "back to Africa" avec le NamurLUG
Coup de chapeau à nos compères namurois :-) : http://www.namurlug.org/drupal/node/92 http://www.namurlug.org/drupal/node/97 -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Notre peuple vaincra ! ;-)
(english version below) Bonsoir Il y a une demi-heure, je tombe sur l'émission "Au quotidien" sur la Une, au cours de laquelle un téléspectateur pose une question à laquelle un mini-reportage tente de répondre. Surprise : la question du jour est : "Peut-on acheter un ordinateur sans MS Vista ?" Réponse : eh ben oui! Il suffit d'acheter chez un petit assembleur : après qqc images du lancement mondial de Vista par Balmer et Gates, reportage chez Lybrafox (http://www.lybrafox.be/ malheureusement noté erronément "LybrafoR sprl", et qui est le sponsor du NamurLUG http://www.namurlug.org/), où on apprend que le client choisit librement son OS. Puis zoom sur un écran de portable démarrant... Edubuntu :-) et montrant ensuite OpenOffice 2.2 et d'autres logiciels libres.. puis interview du propriétaire du portable, un certain... Nicolas Pettiaux, qui ne se fait pas prier pour dire que le problème est le manque de notoriété de la concurrence de Microsoft, qu'il existe pourtant des alternatives pour tous les usages familiaux et que tant des écoles bruxelloises que le ministère de la Justice utilisent déjà OOo. Cerise sur le gateau, retour chez Lybrafox pour entendre le vendeur expliquer que Vista se vend lentement, les gens préférant que d'autres "essuient les plâtres" vu les problèmes de non fonctionnement de certains périphériques ou logiciels Windows antérieurs (yek yek). Bon.. Ils n'ont pas parlé des prochaines activités de notre LUG, mais ne faisons pas la fine bouche ;-). Merci la RTBF ! --- Bonsoir Half an hour ago, I was looking at RTBF 1 daily program "Au quotidien", where a viewer asks a question to which they reply with a small report. To my surprise, today question was : "Can you buy a computer without MS Vista ?". Answer : oh yes you can! Just go for a small assembler shop : after a few seconds of Vista world launching by Balmer et Gates, TV report at Lybrafox (http://www.lybrafox.be/ sadly mispelled "LybrafoR sprl", which is by the way sponsoring NamurLUG http://www.namurlug.org/), where we are told that the customer freely chooses his OS. Then zoom on a notebook screen starting... Edubuntu :-) and then displaying OpenOffice 2.2 and other free software... Then an interview of the notebook owner, a certain Mr... Nicolas Pettiaux, who explains that the main problem is a lack of awareness of Microsoft competitors, that alternatives for all basic needs do exist and that schools in Brussels as well as the Ministery of Justice already use OOo. Last but not least, back to Lybrafox guy, who says that Vista hardly sells out, because people are unsure due to compatibility problems with some peripherals or Windows programs (yek yek). So... They just omit to mention next activities of our LUG, but that was great ;-) Thanks to RTBF ! A + / Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] CDs 6.06 LTS
Ce matin, au stand Linux du MiHuy, un visiteur nous a fait don d'un solde de CDs ubuntu 6.06 LTS dans leur bel emballage glacé : 17 x86 +18 64-bit + 18 ppc Si vous pouvez faire bon usage de ces CDs, n'hésitez pas à nous contacter à l'adresse [EMAIL PROTECTED] et nous arrangerons un RV pour vous en remettre selon vos besoins. Concernant les CDs ppc, il y a une grande foire Mac le 20 mai prochain à Sclessin (Liège) : http://www.ouftimacday.be/ Pensez-vous que ce soit une bonne idée d'y distribuer ces CDs ? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This morning at MiHuy Linux booth, a visitor gave us a set of ubuntu 6.06 LTS CDs in their pretty glossy pockets : 17 x86 +18 64-bit + 18 ppc. If you can make good use of them, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we will make an appointment to forward you CDs according to your needs. About the ppc CDs : there is a big Mac fair in Sclessin (Liège) next 20th May : http://www.ouftimacday.be/ Do you think that distributing such CDs there would be a good idea ? A + / Regards -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] wat is er nu zo uitzonderlijk aan Ubuntu?
Hello
Le Mercredi 25 Avril 2007 22:48, Jan Claeys a écrit :
> > W$-gebruiker al schrik gehad :-) dat het z'n schijf ging
> > overschrijven terwijl het in feite live start. (...)
> (...) een gelocaliseerde versie van de CDs voor België te maken.
> Wat "live" vs. "overschrijven" betreft: dat staat op de officiële CDs
> & op de site wel uitgelegd. Maar idd. een goed idee om dat
> misschien tijdens het booten ook nog eens duidelijk te maken ("/me
> noteert").
After he asks me about Linux and Linux distros, a (computer-literate)
collegue has tried ubuntu and was a bit lost about accessing his disks
(he wanted to open some files for testing purposes).
Maybe icons on the desktop "à la Knoppix", at least during the live
session, would be an improvement. When *first* clicking on them, a
popup dialog box could clearly inform about the "overwriting concern".
And if there is a reliable way to figure out which partition is C:,
D:,... (I guess there is), including such a mention in the icon name
would be quite useful for Average Joe.
Your opinion ?
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty - A little disappointed...
Le samedi 21 avril 2007 21:05, Stijn Verslycken a écrit : > I'm not the only one with an ATI graphics card of that > generation... It should simply work, at least in some basic mode, > like it did before Feisty and like it does with all other distro's > I've had on this machine so far. I would be honoured to be described as a "Stallman-like freedom extremist" but, apart from that, I totally agree with you. Ubuntu has decided to target Average Joe (and, by the way, that was a key point in Ploum's launching talk at Fosdem 2006 : to convert Windows users, not Linux users). So first it should... just work. Such critics would be irrelevant if, as you mentioned, other distros were not making a better job. Our LUG "Mandriva guru" proudly announced the release of Mandriva 2007 Spring, saying he was now "ready for our next LIP". So, Ubunteros, beware of competition! But to end up up in a more positive way, I have to say that almost all people I know agree on Ubuntu leadership in one field : its fantastic users community, which is you, ladies and gentlemen. Have a nice Sunday meeting the real or digital fawns ;-) -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22
Le jeudi 19 avril 2007 15:00, Cedric Janssens a écrit : > 2007/4/19, Philippe Piquer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On a sunday , public transportation is h how to say it :( > > Train to Liège and then ? There is a station in Spa (more or less 6 Km from La Reid park); if someone can pick you there... -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Feisty CDs requested
> Well... we have to manage the CD carefully > There are about twenty fairs / year > > As there is a release every six months, let's say 10 fairs CDs are not going to be as attractive in 3 months as they are now. So I would rather try using the "hot new product" argument to distribute/sell them now instead of risking to have unused CDs remaining in 6 months. My 0.02 EUR. > Can we envisage a kind of remuneration / cd ? > About 2 euros / CD. > > Is this forbidden by Canonical or not ? I'm rather confused with ubuntu-be politics regarding CDs (official? personalised ? pressed ? free or sold?) but just for information : I mentioned earlier that our LUG LiLiT asked to Canonical if we could sell their CDs to cover our booth costs. The answer was (sort of) "theoretically yes but we won't keep on delivering you CDs in this case." Maybe their politics has changed, or maybe a Locoteam gets a different treatment. I would be interested to know what answer you will get. Regards -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Meet the fawn! -- Ubuntu Gathering on April 22
Le Mardi 17 Avril 2007 15:53, Philippe Piquer a écrit : > This is a nice idea ... > let's eat ... heu meet some fawns ;) Well, if you want to eat, there is a locally famous restaurant in La Reid : http://www.spa-info.be/menobu/ I fear I cannot make it (due to some "deadlined" activities) but, Alexandre and Benoit, if you are greeting people in La Reid, maybe you could visit some (very close) magic places : * la Charmille http://www.opt.be/tourisme/description.php?RG=o&CLANGUE=fr&ID=563&T=V&ELTOID=30290 * les Fonds de Quarreux et le Ninglinspo http://www.aywaille.be/fr/aywaille/villages/fdQuarreux.htm * les roches Crahay http://www.belclimb.net/cragsearch.php?mode=crag&id=166 (http://www.bekinna.be/boucle14.php) * etc. and you are also not far from Theux (and Franchimont Castle), Spa or the Amblève Valley (Remouchamps, Aywaille). P.S. In October, we will be visiting the Antwerpen Zoo ;-) : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Call for testing!
Le Mercredi 4 Avril 2007 22:58, Alexandre Ficelle a écrit : > >>> Has someone a good French translation porposal for "OS friendly > >>> shop" ? What's the complete sentence/context (and its current translation) including this mention ? -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu translators ... info on ubuntu-be.org in default browser page?
Le Mardi 3 Avril 2007 23:53, Mark Van den Borre a écrit : > A message to those familiar with the translation process in ubuntu. I'm not familiar with it and have no time to spend on it but, as I told Mark, just drop me "ubuntu-be specific" English texts to be translated, or French texts to be checked for typos, to my email address and you will get an answer within a decent delay (max. 2 days). -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] your opinion please: Alexandre Laurent fo r bank account?
Hello > > Alexandre Laurent is now the candidate (...) I have no objections (and don't feel entitled to vote anyway) but could you show us what Alexandre looks like (some Fosdem pic ?) ? Le Lundi 19 Mars 2007 23:02, Laurent RICHARD a écrit : > Centea : nearly all independant => Better check elsewhere. My local independant bank switched from Centea to Recordbank (http://www.recordbank.be) a year ago. Now I have an almost free account with free access to all ING cash machines. I don't know Keytrade but do they offer access to widely spread cash machines without extra fees (or maybe that is not important) ? P.S. better a "militant flemish management" than a "typical Walloon management" for the sake of (y)our money... (just kidding) -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Custom CDs
Le Dimanche 18 Mars 2007 10:49, Snulkid a écrit : > people admit computer problems when they have been warmed Don't misunderstand me : I meant "warned" ;-P -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Custom CDs
Hi all My LUG LiLiT was yesterday in Awans (Liege suburbs) for an Install Party opening the local "Fête de l'Internet". So there are now a few more human beings running Ubuntu (or Mandriva 2007 ;-). Speaking with "not-so-computer-literate-people", it really appears that "zero effort" is a key to success for these people to migrate to GNU/Linux. Of course, "Ubuntu is great" ((TM) ploum) for this purpose, especially with the new live+install desktop CD; we tell them to come to Install Parties, and to come again if they have a problem. But it is not enough, especially if we want these people to spread the word (and the CD) to their friends. Some thoughts : * we cannot be sure they can get internet access when using or install the CD. Sometimes they just don't have internet at all (too expensive, already available at work, etc.), or it is "reserved" to their main computer (running Windows), or they have some "problematic" usb modem. * many people (especially Walloons, as you know ;-) cannot deal with a language other than their mother tongue. The fact that Ubuntu can be installed in dozens of different languages with the same CD is useless for them. We even got a complaint from someone who got the ubuntu CD and then was told that french packages were not included. * perception of what is a problem is very subjective. For example, I am very concerned that people could mess up their Windows with an install CD. But so far, we never get such complaints. The usual complaint is "it doesn't work" or "Explanations given on the internet are too complicated or did not work for me". My present feeling is : people admit computer problems when they have been warmed, but if they get lost without understandable reason, they will give up and go back to Windows. So opening a dialog box with a clear explanation could be more useful than giving (or, at least, only giving) a link to an howto page that 90% of these people won't use anyway.. * when opened under Windows, the desktop CD offers to install some free softwares for Windows. Great... but in English :-( So you guess it, this leads me to ask for customized CDs again. Maybe I am wrong and probably I/we can make bad choices, so : * I tried to find a way for a stupid newbie like me to make custom CDs. On https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6.06 I found a comment about UCK : http://uck.sourceforge.net/ https://launchpad.net/uck/ who looks dead simple according to : http://uck.sourceforge.net/screenshots There was an article laudating Ubuntu in February issue of Linux magazine US, where they mention Reconstructor : http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/ What do you think of these solutions ? * if ubuntu-be goes this way, I think custom CDs should be *tested* on computer-illiterate people because burning or pressing them in great quantities : what they don't understand, what they don't find, what is missing, etc. I think it is far more important than having the CD available for some deadline. Testing should include installing on Windows and empty computers as well. Question : is such testing already made for the standard ubuntu CDs ? * people should be welcomed and informed in their language. Even if they are not connected, they should find information about ubuntu-be, LUGs, and even friendly computer stores or cyberspaces. That was my Sunday 0.02 EUR Have a nice day in Kortrijk :-) -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] Fosdem 2007 meeting
First (ugly) draft is on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/Fosdem_2007-02-25/Report Please correct / complete -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Open standards presentation for the Apple C lub Antwerpen
Le Lundi 26 Février 2007 08:32, Amedee Van Gasse a écrit : > De beste stand was trouwens de infostand aan de ingang. :) Yes but they had Tille, so this is not fair competition ;-)) P.S. And what about your LPI exam, Amedee ? -- Snulkid (who will report on the wiki "Fosdem2007" page within the next 15h hopefully) -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ma santé et mes activités (Fosde m, Dipro, ...)
Le Mercredi 21 Février 2007 17:58, Benoît Plunus a écrit : > Bon rétablissement et à bientôt ;) Autant de ma part. Si tu as besoin d'élixir de Spa, de pèket ou autres médicaments traditionnels, n'hésite pas à demander ;-)) -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] FOSDEM on February 24/25
My 0.02 EUR, don't take my critics as flames Le Mercredi 14 Février 2007 23:25, Jan Claeys a écrit : > > I think we should keep in mind the audience here. > (...) 1. A good part of the Belgian audience are LUG members and many LUGs install Ubuntu at Install Parties. So the question is : what has Ubuntu and ubuntu-be to offer to LUGs ? Not much, I'm afraid : getting free CDs is no longer a key incentive (and no longer easy), and they get technical support from ubuntu-nl and -fr communities. But maybe you could launch among them the idea of a "Belgian personalized CD" ? 2. If the support points map is really effective and if you have stats about the way it has been working, this could be interesting for visitors, especially foreign ones. The map was a really new idea, wasn't it ? 3. The actions targeting "institutions" could be hightlighted : VLOD, Ubuntu cyberclass in Vivegnis, etc. Maybe also the press campaign sponsored by Linux-services.be and its results ? 4. Is there a reason for a service provider to choose Ubuntu? Why ubuntushop.be and not anotherdistroshop.be ? Show special advantages (if any) a service provider can get from Ubuntu/Canonical ? Maybe a flyer with Belgian "Ubuntu certified" service providers ? 5. If not speaking about DIPRO fairs, at least pictures to show real action has been done. -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: nu is het officieel: linux, dat is voor communisten!]
Le Mercredi 14 Février 2007 00:05, Peter Dedecker a écrit : > (...) Er zijn steunpunten in Vlaanderen, Brussel en Luik LOL ;-) We all know that Liege is the very center of the universe (*) but that is not fair for the other Walloon support points. (*) met Sint-Niklaas, natuurlijk! -- Snulkid - Liégeois, ne laissez pas défigurer votre centre-ville!! http://www.liege21e.levillage.org/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: [lilit-public] Visez Vista !]
An inter-LUGs contest for the quickest Ubuntu flawless install ? ;-)) - Message original - Objet:[lilit-public] Visez Vista ! Date: Ven 9 février 2007 12:36 (...) Je ne peux résister au plaisir de vous renvoyer à ce lien: http://www.lesoir.be/la_vie_du_net/en_pratique/2007/02/08/article_logiciels_le_nouveau_systeme.shtml ou comment se ménager des moments palpitants ... Bonne journée ! Yvette -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] Radio 1 interviewtomorrow morning about Ubuntu (dutch)
> Televisie journaal van zeven heeft gisteren avond ook eenzijdig > minutenlang over Vista gesproken: het woord "alternatief" (of het nu > om Mac of Linux gaat) is nog geen één keer uitgesproken geweest. Integendeel was het heel goed voor Linux om RTBF. Een Luikenaar heeft de audio hier geplaatst and sommige informatie gegeven : C'était mieux pour Linux au JT de la RTBF. Un Liégeois a mis les bandes audio en ligne et donné qqc précisions : - Lancement de Vista : http://www.epot.org/sounds/070130-jtsoir1-vista.ogg - Alternatives libres : http://www.epot.org/sounds/070130-jtsoir2-libres.ogg During the first interview, you can see only M$ mega-show but no Vista demo except the stack of windows (Aero GUI) inside Vista on the big show screen. Then they ask a not so kind question to Win Van Winghe, Business Group Manager - Windows Client - Microsoft BeLux. During the second interview, regarding "alternatives", Claude Aronis of the small company Alunys (http://www.alunys.com/) explains they serve their customers (including administration departments) using FOSS. Then you see flashy Linux screens (including OOo 2.0), leading to the question : why is Linux not widespread among end-users ? The answer is given by Pascal Francq, professor at ULB (http://beams.ulb.ac.be/beams/main.php?menu1=staff&detail=1) who says commercial practices from M$ look the market. It was g-r-e-a-t ! Thanks to Nicolas who made some worthy phone calls :-) Note : a big Windows Vista advertising is on http://www.tf1.fr/ -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] the linux marketing machine
> "Uw computer is niet bereid voor Vista ? > (...) Sorry, I will do better in English : " Our computer cannot run Vista ? Keep your computer (and your money), change your system ! Ubuntu (Linux), the best (and cheapest) way to the future " My favorite would be : " Our computer cannot run Vista ? Keep your computer and your money, change your system : Ubuntu, the best way to the future " -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] the linux marketing machine
> De Standaard. > Today 30/01/2007 > Page 3 > :-) Dus heb ik vandaag een Vlaamse krant gekocht :-) De advertenzie kan je niet missen : het staat rechts onder, waar je de bladzijde richt(?). Windows Vista staat op pagina's E1 en E6 (Economie & Financien schrift). Het artikel over hun "Wow"-advertensie campagne is niet zo mooi voor Microsoft : het ziet eruit dat Vista niet "hun belankrijgste produkt" is voor veel mensen. Spijtig staat "Linux" maar één keer in het artikel, op de volgende manier: "Het veelbesproken Linux, bijvoorbeeld, dat gebaseerd is op openbronsoftware, kampt nog altijd met een gebrek aan gebruiksvriendelijkheid, commerciële ondersteuning en compatibiliteit met randapparatuur." :-(( Ook op te merken : "De komende dagen en weken verplaatst Microsoft de actie naar de winkels (...)zoals MediaMarkt of Carrefour". Een beetje sabotage spelen ? ;-) "Van alle computers die vandaag gebruikt worden, is volgens het onderzoeksbureau Gartner amper 15 procent technisch in staat om Vista Home Premium -de interessantste versie voor thuisgebruikers- te draaien." Dus kon misschien een "tegen-campagne" zo klingen : "Uw computer is niet bereid voor Vista ? Eerder is Vista niet bereid voor uw computer : vervand van systeem, niet van computer ! Ubuntu Linux, de beste weg naar de toekomst." Groeten -- snulkid -- ubuntu-be mailing list ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
