Re: Criteria for App Mobilization
I agree with everything that Steve said below. A few more things: 1) Network connectivity: Applications should be network connection aware, allowing the user to be connection agnostic. I.e. internet/network based apps should function as well as possible regardless of whether or not there is a connection to their backend data, performing automatic synchronization when network connection is available. This may mean some amount of caching and prefetch to anticipate non-connected states. For example, an e-mail app allows someone to work perfectly well offline-composing, reading and managing mail-and then automatically synching once a connection to the server is available. Users should NEVER have to press some button that says Sync Now, Go Offline or Go Online. 2) Storage space awareness: Because many of the devices we are targeting are going to have limited storage space, all applications that store data on the device should be aware of this limitation and be prepared to handle the inevitable. I recognize that this criteria juxtaposes #1, which requires networked apps to prefetch and cache, and assumes limitless local persistent storage. 3) System CPU and Memory resources: Many of our target devices will also have limited CPU and Memory resources, and much of the software that is currently installed by default (e.g. the System Monitor) are currently VERY resource intensive. Applications that know they need lots of CPU and/or memory (e.g. video playback) should sniff out the current playing field and warn the user if CPU/memory usage is already so high that performance may be hampered. Ideally, we wouldn't have this hardware restraint, or OS would do this for apps, but I don't think we're to that point yet. 4) Power: Mobilized applications should recognize that battery life is a major goal for these platforms, and that they have a responsibility to play nicely. At a minimum, calls that prevent the system from sleeping, or the screen from blanking should be used judiciously. Applications should also handle the backup and sleep/exit events generated by OSSO/D-bus to prevent their own data loss. Those applications that are beginning a process that may need some time to complete (e.g. file download) should calculate whether there is enough power to complete the operation. All applications should handle the battery-low event to allow the user to take appropriate action (e.g. notify your chat buddy that you might disappear). 5) Screen: While it is true that all dialogs must fit on 800x480 resolution, they should also not be so small that they cannot be read on devices with native 1024x600 resolutions. More criteria: * Applications load + save data automatically - user doesn't have to remember to save data * Filesystem is hidden from the user. Users should never need to know a filename, they should only interact with data + metadata (thumbnails for the image viewer, song/artist name for music, from/to/ subject headers in email, etc). - This means no traditional open/save dialogs - Attach file dialogs need to present a friendly list of objects to attach (thumbnails or metadata) - If the user has to be presented a list of files, the list must only include relevant files. Things like /usr and .xyz files must always be excluded. * # of configuration options is minimized. Applications should come preconfigured with intelligent defaults. Options should only be included if they're easily understood by the computer-phobic or if they're likely to be useful to a large minority of users. * # Featureset should be minimized. Applications like Claws have dozens of menu items, most of which aren't useful to our target market. * # of dialogs is minimized * All screens and dialogs must fit onscreen (800x480) * All screens and dialogs must render properly (no overlapping widgets, no text spilling out of buttons, no text offscreen, no popup menus that aren't wide enough to read the content of the menu, etc). * Dialogs must be positioned centered and fully onscreen. The user should never have to move a dialog to see its contents * Applications with multiple screens (such as a tabbed browser) must present an easy + obvious way to navigate between screens. * Applications run as a singleton (can't have multiple copies of the app running) * Instant feedback - Any interaction with the UI results in visual/ audio feedback within 200ms, which is the upper limit of what's necessary for the appearance of 'instant'. For a tactile device like a MID, it's important that widgets act like physical objects. Delayed reactions remind the user that they're on a computer. * Applications shouldn't require a mouse cursor for functionality. This means hovering + tooltips are out. * Applications shouldn't require right-clicking for any significant functionality - right-clicking is awkward if the user is holding the device in one hand and using their other
Re: Criteria for App Mobilization
That's great. Can you add them to the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/UserApplicationCriteria That way they won't get lost in email list archives. Kyle On Oct 26, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Robison, Clayne B wrote: I agree with everything that Steve said below. A few more things: 1) Network connectivity: Applications should be network connection aware, allowing the user to be connection agnostic. I.e. internet/network based apps should function as well as possible regardless of whether or not there is a connection to their backend data, performing automatic synchronization when network connection is available. This may mean some amount of caching and prefetch to anticipate non-connected states. For example, an e-mail app allows someone to work perfectly well offline—composing, reading and managing mail—and then automatically synching once a connection to the server is available. Users should NEVER have to press some button that says “Sync Now”, “Go Offline” or “Go Online.” 2) Storage space awareness: Because many of the devices we are targeting are going to have limited storage space, all applications that store data on the device should be aware of this limitation and be prepared to handle the inevitable. I recognize that this criteria juxtaposes #1, which requires networked apps to prefetch and cache, and assumes limitless local persistent storage. 3) System CPU and Memory resources: Many of our target devices will also have limited CPU and Memory resources, and much of the software that is currently installed by default (e.g. the System Monitor) are currently VERY resource intensive. Applications that know they need lots of CPU and/or memory (e.g. video playback) should sniff out the current playing field and warn the user if CPU/ memory usage is already so high that performance may be hampered. Ideally, we wouldn’t have this hardware restraint, or OS would do this for apps, but I don’t think we’re to that point yet. 4) Power: Mobilized applications should recognize that battery life is a major goal for these platforms, and that they have a responsibility to play nicely. At a minimum, calls that prevent the system from sleeping, or the screen from blanking should be used judiciously. Applications should also handle the backup and sleep/ exit events generated by OSSO/D-bus to prevent their own data loss. Those applications that are beginning a process that may need some time to complete (e.g. file download) should calculate whether there is enough power to complete the operation. All applications should handle the battery-low event to allow the user to take appropriate action (e.g. notify your chat buddy that you might disappear). 5) Screen: While it is true that all dialogs must fit on 800x480 resolution, they should also not be so small that they cannot be read on devices with native 1024x600 resolutions. More criteria: * Applications load + save data automatically - user doesn't have to remember to save data * Filesystem is hidden from the user. Users should never need to know a filename, they should only interact with data + metadata (thumbnails for the image viewer, song/artist name for music, from/ to/ subject headers in email, etc). - This means no traditional open/save dialogs - Attach file dialogs need to present a friendly list of objects to attach (thumbnails or metadata) - If the user has to be presented a list of files, the list must only include relevant files. Things like /usr and .xyz files must always be excluded. * # of configuration options is minimized. Applications should come preconfigured with intelligent defaults. Options should only be included if they're easily understood by the computer-phobic or if they're likely to be useful to a large minority of users. * # Featureset should be minimized. Applications like Claws have dozens of menu items, most of which aren't useful to our target market. * # of dialogs is minimized * All screens and dialogs must fit onscreen (800x480) * All screens and dialogs must render properly (no overlapping widgets, no text spilling out of buttons, no text offscreen, no popup menus that aren't wide enough to read the content of the menu, etc). * Dialogs must be positioned centered and fully onscreen. The user should never have to move a dialog to see its contents * Applications with multiple screens (such as a tabbed browser) must present an easy + obvious way to navigate between screens. * Applications run as a singleton (can't have multiple copies of the app running) * Instant feedback - Any interaction with the UI results in visual/ audio feedback within 200ms, which is the upper limit of what's necessary for the appearance of 'instant'. For a tactile device like a MID, it's important that widgets act like physical objects.
Re: [ubuntu-in] Gutsy problems on Athlon
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nan budh Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:54 PM To: Ubuntu India Local Community Subject: [ubuntu-in] Gutsy problems on Athlon Guys please help me. suggest me what to do. i installed gutsy on athon 64 2800+. its freezing/ crashing/ becoming totally unresponsive at least half of the times i start it up. Often it happen when there is are two programs running like firefox and pidgeon or synaptic. Second problem is that the desktop menu bar gets discoloured in rectangular patches. colours ranges from gray to bright blue. at times the patch 'bleeds' down to the open firefox window. I am not sure but i have a feeling that if i do clean install from alternative Cd maybe it will get resolved. any thoughts welcome. nanbudh ps: during installtion i forgot to make one of my disk partitions as the home directory. please tell me how can i do it now. Please tell us more about the model of your machine. What motherboard?? Or brand name etc. What graphics drivers are you using? I hope I've understood your partition question correctly. I think you already have a partition and you want to change your home directory to point to that partition. If that's the case then check out this post. http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ Manu -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 05:39 +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: [...] Ubuntu bangalore forum is up.. you can post, discuss about ubuntu here: [...] I was trying to ignore all this frenetic activity, but would you care to explain what exactly you are trying to achieve here? In my opinion, the ubuntu-in community is already quite small, and any work is done only by a few people. Why do you think that fragmenting it further is a good idea? Maybe your energies would be better put into adding content to existing sites, and doing more on this list? Regards, Gora -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
On 10/26/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 05:39 +0530, Bhavani Shankar R wrote: [...] Ubuntu bangalore forum is up.. you can post, discuss about ubuntu here: [...] I was trying to ignore all this frenetic activity, but would you care to explain what exactly you are trying to achieve here? In my opinion, the ubuntu-in community is already quite small, and any work is done only by a few people. Why do you think that fragmenting it further is a good idea? Maybe your energies would be better put into adding content to existing sites, and doing more on this list? Bang on the spot. Gora. I second you. This way we will end up having 2 communities without achieving any good. Bhavani, not need to get dejected. What I suggest is that. you be active in ubuntu-in mailing list and keep on lookout for people from Bangalore. Then you can sometime meet locally and announce it on ubuntu-in list. This way if I am in Bangalore at that time I can also drop in. Otherwise I will never come to know. Hope you got the point. -- ALLAH HAFIZ --- Mir Nazim --- mobile: +91-9906478306 --- website: http://www.xensoftlabs.com blog: http://mirnazim.wordpress.com --- Yahoo, Gmail/GTalk, Skype, AOL : mirnazim -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] anyone from ahemdabad can you handle me a gutsy cd
I live in ahmedabad and am on a limited bandwidth i want a gutsy alternated cd to update my fiesty is anyone willing to handle me one -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Hello.. Then why does AP need a loco team? Its because if we break up into smaller teams and start working people here locally can reach us faster if they have any problems and we can promote ubuntu faster locally.. I know that the Indian team is undergoing a rejuvenation and I have already offered my help to them.. And Ours is a big diverse country.. and a single team cant synchronise and supervise every part of India... The events happening the promotions and so on.. So I hope you understood my POV.. +1 Gora I m always on the look out and thats the thing precisely i m doing.. Also My aim is to take ubuntu to bangalore it.in (Biggest it exibition in the country..) Bhavani Shankar. On 10/26/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 12:14 +0530, Mir Nazim wrote: [...] Bhavani, not need to get dejected. Yes, of course there is no reason to be unhappy. There is plenty of work to be done in ubuntu-in, and I am sure that the people there would be glad of your help. What I suggest is that. you be active in ubuntu-in mailing list and keep on lookout for people from Bangalore. Then you can sometime meet locally and announce it on ubuntu-in list. This way if I am in Bangalore at that time I can also drop in. Otherwise I will never come to know. [...] Also, volunteer to help on the website. Maybe the people working on the parallel site could use an additional hand. Regards, Gora -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
It will encourage the development of Kannada like phonetic keyboard layout(baraha type) as well as Kannada OCR for Ubuntu by users of . Kannada people. -75yrsold On 10/26/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 12:14 +0530, Mir Nazim wrote: [...] Bhavani, not need to get dejected. Yes, of course there is no reason to be unhappy. There is plenty of work to be done in ubuntu-in, and I am sure that the people there would be glad of your help. What I suggest is that. you be active in ubuntu-in mailing list and keep on lookout for people from Bangalore. Then you can sometime meet locally and announce it on ubuntu-in list. This way if I am in Bangalore at that time I can also drop in. Otherwise I will never come to know. [...] Also, volunteer to help on the website. Maybe the people working on the parallel site could use an additional hand. Regards, Gora -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Exactly.. To bring in full fledged Kannada localisation for ubuntu users.. Thats also one of the main aims of the team... Sirigannadam gelge... Kannada Belagali, Bhavani Shankar...:) On 10/26/07, 74yrs old [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will encourage the development of Kannada like phonetic keyboard layout(baraha type) as well as Kannada OCR for Ubuntu by users of . Kannada people. -75yrsold On 10/26/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 12:14 +0530, Mir Nazim wrote: [...] Bhavani, not need to get dejected. Yes, of course there is no reason to be unhappy. There is plenty of work to be done in ubuntu-in, and I am sure that the people there would be glad of your help. What I suggest is that. you be active in ubuntu-in mailing list and keep on lookout for people from Bangalore. Then you can sometime meet locally and announce it on ubuntu-in list. This way if I am in Bangalore at that time I can also drop in. Otherwise I will never come to know. [...] Also, volunteer to help on the website. Maybe the people working on the parallel site could use an additional hand. Regards, Gora -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
On 10/26/07, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello.. Then why does AP need a loco team? Its because if we break up into smaller teams and start working people here locally can reach us faster if they have any problems and we can promote ubuntu faster locally.. I know that the Indian team is undergoing a rejuvenation and I have already offered my help to them.. And Ours is a big diverse country.. and a single team cant synchronise and supervise every part of India... The events happening the promotions and so on.. So I hope you understood my POV.. +1 Gora I m always on the look out and thats the thing precisely i m doing.. Also My aim is to take ubuntu to bangalore it.in (Biggest it exibition in the country..) Bhavani Shankar. I don't think that this is enough reason to start a fragment already small community. What I suggest is that you can create a project specific mailing list and interested people can join it. but we should not fragment the community.. -- ALLAH HAFIZ --- Mir Nazim --- mobile: +91-9906478306 --- website: http://www.xensoftlabs.com blog: http://mirnazim.wordpress.com --- Yahoo, Gmail/GTalk, Skype, AOL : mirnazim -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] [Non Tech] Some Thoughts in General
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Taking note of things happening in the past few weeks, I would like to put some thoughts I have though I want to forbid myself from replying to any particular post/thread. [1] Recently the mailing list of the Ubuntu India Loco Team is being frequently informed about starting up of new groups and teams. [2] The necessity for taking up indic related works for Ubuntu is felt and stressed by a lot of people. [3] Often discussion happens on contribution in terms of documents to the existing document base of our wiki [4] Rejuvenation (or how ever you call it) of the Ubuntu India Web Site. But a few things have been felt concerning to the team which we feel there is a need to sort it out and make some things clear. If any one wants to concentrate on specific regions of the Ubuntu project and feel that the Loco team is not actively concentrating on it, then.. [1] Raise the issue with concrete steps on what you think need to be done. Just rants on things not being done will lead to /dev/null [2] Instead of going for new teams, start projects under the Loco team itself. You can make use of the wiki and mailing list (by using a special [tag] to indicate related mails). Thus if you feel language foo doesn't have enough focus and work on it, then start a ubuntu-in-foo *project* under ubuntu-in loco team instead of starting a ubuntu-foo team itself. This is because [1] You cause the loco team not to be aware of anything happening in the foo teams. [2] People might get confused of the many foo teams which might exist in parallel to the lubuntu-in oco team [3] This is nearly breaking the loco team into parts which work in their own ways. Also this will lead to formation of 100s of foo thinks as and when some one think they need to. Please refrain from formation of ubuntu-foo teams which can otherwise comfortably operate inside the loco team. When one part of the Loco team is trying to spread the awareness about it, there are other groups which are proving to be distractive to the process. Please understand Loco team is nothing about leadership, authority or fame. It is more about unity and contribution. If you are anyways not satisfied with the performance of current responsibility holders, then publicly seek to take up the responsibility in this mailing list and the matter will be looked up asap. Hope this makes people understand what our concerns are and do not again make us repeat the same points in future. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [web] http://technofreak.in [blog] blog.technofreak.in [photos] photos.technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile] BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIdVfk4vYYS/wECYRAmycAKCFfeL1V8GpjZADf1HFJX3pG2lU3wCfWS6X L8+MPKEgHgygYso3HM4HgpE= =sdR5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Are you and bhavi trolling this list as a team or are you both the same guy with 2 different email ids trolling the list? You fork a team when you have enough people contributing to the same project. Making a separate team and hoping people willshow-up is dumb. Also you will not earn brownie points in launchpad or in the ubuntu community for creating a zillion teams an calling your self the head of a zillion teams which no one is a part of. Waite now i just feel sad for you. On 10/26/07, 74yrs old [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To develop Kannada, Bangalore forum is a must. For example OCR for all Indian languages except KANNADA and TELUGU are available for free download. KannadaOCR was not available for download or neglected why? Because Kannada well as Telugu is very complex scripts which requires special attention for development/contribution by local Programmers as well as Developers who are well versed in Kannada. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
hello... I too have some responsibility.. And I m not here to create a zillion team as I m looking forward to develop a full fledged localisation in kannada and develop a kannada support for sarika The first open source translator and it can be done by dev who are well versed in kannada.. I am just trying to bring all the kannada devs together into a team... and you cant control a whole big country with ubuntu events going on in the country... Ok answer this simple question: Why do we need a cm in every state when the centre and president is ruling the whole country? Hope you got my point.. well do you want some points? https://edge.launchpad.net/~bhavi Bhavani Shankar. On 10/26/07, gaurav chaturvedi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you and bhavi trolling this list as a team or are you both the same guy with 2 different email ids trolling the list? You fork a team when you have enough people contributing to the same project. Making a separate team and hoping people willshow-up is dumb. Also you will not earn brownie points in launchpad or in the ubuntu community for creating a zillion teams an calling your self the head of a zillion teams which no one is a part of. Waite now i just feel sad for you. On 10/26/07, 74yrs old [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To develop Kannada, Bangalore forum is a must. For example OCR for all Indian languages except KANNADA and TELUGU are available for free download. KannadaOCR was not available for download or neglected why? Because Kannada well as Telugu is very complex scripts which requires special attention for development/contribution by local Programmers as well as Developers who are well versed in Kannada. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Bhavani brother it seems you have less focus and more misdirected hormones. Its good that you intend to do open source development and very good ,no i say very very very good that you wish to work on kannada specific work. But bhai sahib tell me this: Why don't you simply create a detailed proposal of your main idea of the software and mail it to the list. If there are people interested you put the project up on sourceforge and do the work. Why are you putting up new jokes everyday? Maybe its because diwali in near and this is your style of burstng cracker :-) i din wanna use the tone i used in this mail but... kya kahen kucch kaha nahi jaye par chup bhi to rahaa nahi jaye. no hard feelings nanbudh - Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Click here.-- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Hello, Thats why he is trying to reach locally!!! The point he is trying to make really good. Locally he can penetrate to more people and obviously everybody will come to know about the indian community and will get invloved. Since we got tonnes of to do, you need more people, what bhavani did is the right thing in that directions. Advantage is no body will stop just looking at the local community, they will get aware of the much bigger community, and definately they want to join it for sure. Regards, shashi On 10/26/07, Ramnarayan. K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI Well GNU /Linux is full of forks and the diversity has done a very good job of making gnu/linux better than it would have had it been a single OS. So sure i think its a good idea to fork and have a bangaloru forum if its viable. Since you say Kannada is your focus so why not make it a karnataka forum. Am not clear about a few things though - is your focus Kannada localisation on Ubuntu only or would it be kannada localisation for Linux in general. If its the former then your view is pretty narrow. If its the latter then maybe its better you put your energies in getting recruits to your forum from the many Bangaluru LUGS who no doubt will have a larger kannadiga presence. Either ways if you are asking for kannadiga;s and /or those interested in only kannada localization to be members (as can be impied from your and Mr 74 year old' mails) then maybe the spirit of Ubuntu is already lost. There are tonnes of people - some on this list ((Gora is one of them i know for sure) and some others who have been working on localization without concern for a particular language. I wonder what would happen if these folks decided it was worth working on just their langauge - and what happens if the same attitude permeates to open source in general - quite simply the entire movement would just die. GNU/LInux works on collaborations and allowing space , among others. So you have the space to go ahead with your kannada localization but the collaborations don't seem to be happening. In this entire thread just one +ive response. What most folks are saying is hey friend - our ubuntu india community is already small and we have tonnes of stuff to do and its possible to do it only if we work together so why not join into whats happening instead of blazing a new trail if you want to be a leader , please be, we will follow but show us your work inputs and your credentials. At the end of the day even if you do / or don't get the support from this list you are free to fork. Both you and the list will be sadder for it. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
people seem to freaking out with top posting and frankly its irritating so folks kindly stop top posting. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
HI Well GNU /Linux is full of forks and the diversity has done a very good job of making gnu/linux better than it would have had it been a single OS. So sure i think its a good idea to fork and have a bangaloru forum if its viable. Since you say Kannada is your focus so why not make it a karnataka forum. Am not clear about a few things though - is your focus Kannada localisation on Ubuntu only or would it be kannada localisation for Linux in general. If its the former then your view is pretty narrow. If its the latter then maybe its better you put your energies in getting recruits to your forum from the many Bangaluru LUGS who no doubt will have a larger kannadiga presence. Either ways if you are asking for kannadiga;s and /or those interested in only kannada localization to be members (as can be impied from your and Mr 74 year old' mails) then maybe the spirit of Ubuntu is already lost. There are tonnes of people - some on this list ((Gora is one of them i know for sure) and some others who have been working on localization without concern for a particular language. I wonder what would happen if these folks decided it was worth working on just their langauge - and what happens if the same attitude permeates to open source in general - quite simply the entire movement would just die. GNU/LInux works on collaborations and allowing space , among others. So you have the space to go ahead with your kannada localization but the collaborations don't seem to be happening. In this entire thread just one +ive response. What most folks are saying is hey friend - our ubuntu india community is already small and we have tonnes of stuff to do and its possible to do it only if we work together so why not join into whats happening instead of blazing a new trail if you want to be a leader , please be, we will follow but show us your work inputs and your credentials. At the end of the day even if you do / or don't get the support from this list you are free to fork. Both you and the list will be sadder for it. ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Because Kannada well as Telugu is very complex scripts which requires special attention for development/contribution by local Programmers as well as Developers who are well versed in Kannada. Thats the main reason for me starting this team.. Bhavani Shankar. On 10/26/07, Bhavani Shankar R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I can do it for linux on a broader sense... But support is what saddening me... My credentials are already proven directly on the bigger platform. Bhavani Shankar. On 10/26/07, shashi hv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh come on, What bhavani wanted to do really makes sense! You should go local if you want to increase your coverage area Say for ex, you see an ad of say a soap is shown on zee tv for ex, but if they want to capture the local market they have to go local to like sun tv kind of. No one will clearly watch the zee tv all the time. It always helps if you are local. Even i have to say, even i could not kept quite Regards, shashi On 10/26/07, nan budh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bhavani brother it seems you have less focus and more misdirected hormones. Its good that you intend to do open source development and very good ,no i say very very very good that you wish to work on kannada specific work. But bhai sahib tell me this: Why don't you simply create a detailed proposal of your main idea of the software and mail it to the list. If there are people interested you put the project up on sourceforge and do the work. Why are you putting up new jokes everyday? Maybe its because diwali in near and this is your style of burstng cracker :-) i din wanna use the tone i used in this mail but... kya kahen kucch kaha nahi jaye par chup bhi to rahaa nahi jaye. no hard feelings nanbudh Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Click here. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Suggestion for new laptop
Hi Am looking for a laptop max Rs 15000 -/ the critical consideration being it should have a newsish and fast processor am willing to have a small hd, small screen 12 - 14 inch ram 512 MB , basic CD / Writer DVD combo any suggestions and links to any sites thanks ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] hello there every body this is paresh
On 10/25/07, Roshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Roshan wrote: /Ubuntu-in tane aa list anne samaj ma swagat kare che, Paresh! / (Correction: samaaj (instead of samaj) karu (instead of kare and chu (instead of che) ) (English: Ubuntu-in welcomes Paresh to the mailing list and the community) kare che is right, since community is plural. And we usually use tamne as a mark of respect, rather than tane. Welcome to the community paresh. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] hello there every body this is paresh
Welcome to Club :-) -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Suggestion for new laptop
Hi list, IMO 15k is too low for a laptop, even we can't get a nice Desktop in that budget. The best thing you can try look your a second hand laptop, maybe that would fit into your budget. if you are keen to bye new one , then you have to increase your bugdet by Atleast 10k more -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] anyone from ahemdabad can you handle me a gutsy cd
I have it with me now, but i am located at Jaipur So the downside it you have to pay a little, not much just the media costs+shipping(postal costs). If interested then contact me Off the list. Thanks -- Regards, Gaurish Sharma This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Let a non-Bangalore, non-Kannada person give his opinion on this. From what all I gather, this Bangalore Team idea is not bad, but don't fork it! By forking it, I mean: -- getting a new IRC channel -- using the ubuntuforums.org forum, while the Ubuntu India forums also exist. You could have requested us to make a sub-category with as many forums for you, we would have been glad! -- using the ubuntu wiki for promotion as a separate LoCo team. I suggest use the Ubuntu India resources please. We have a wiki and a forum and an IRC channel as well. -- you can very well use tags (you are using Ubuntu Bangalore Team) in the mailing list so as to differentiate your mail. No need for a separate mailing list as well. You have a noble mission my friend! But using the right tools will help you in the long run as well. We want to help you in any way we can. If you get our point, this helps the Ubuntu India community as a whole beautifully and supports your goal as well. And this also reminds me of the Ubuntu India site upgrade, i will holler on that point as well (separate mail :) ) Thanks Pratul -- In a world without fences boundaries, who needs Gates and Windows? personal website - http://techjugaad.com/techbakwaas -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Ubuntu Bangalore Team] The Bangalore team is up and rocking..!
Ok got it.. Its my mistake.. Thanks pratul I ll shift the wiki to a Ubuntu india wiki page and request for a subforum..will contact voiran soon... to change it to a subforum mate... Thanks Bhavani Shankar. On 10/27/07, Lut4rp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let a non-Bangalore, non-Kannada person give his opinion on this. From what all I gather, this Bangalore Team idea is not bad, but don't fork it! By forking it, I mean: -- getting a new IRC channel -- using the ubuntuforums.org forum, while the Ubuntu India forums also exist. You could have requested us to make a sub-category with as many forums for you, we would have been glad! -- using the ubuntu wiki for promotion as a separate LoCo team. I suggest use the Ubuntu India resources please. We have a wiki and a forum and an IRC channel as well. -- you can very well use tags (you are using Ubuntu Bangalore Team) in the mailing list so as to differentiate your mail. No need for a separate mailing list as well. You have a noble mission my friend! But using the right tools will help you in the long run as well. We want to help you in any way we can. If you get our point, this helps the Ubuntu India community as a whole beautifully and supports your goal as well. And this also reminds me of the Ubuntu India site upgrade, i will holler on that point as well (separate mail :) ) Thanks Pratul -- In a world without fences boundaries, who needs Gates and Windows? personal website - http://techjugaad.com/techbakwaas -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] [Non Tech] Some Thoughts in General
On 10/26/07, Parthan S R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Taking note of things happening in the past few weeks, I would like to put some thoughts I have though I want to forbid myself from replying to any particular post/thread. [1] Recently the mailing list of the Ubuntu India Loco Team is being frequently informed about starting up of new groups and teams. [2] The necessity for taking up indic related works for Ubuntu is felt and stressed by a lot of people. [3] Often discussion happens on contribution in terms of documents to the existing document base of our wiki [4] Rejuvenation (or how ever you call it) of the Ubuntu India Web Site. But a few things have been felt concerning to the team which we feel there is a need to sort it out and make some things clear. If any one wants to concentrate on specific regions of the Ubuntu project and feel that the Loco team is not actively concentrating on it, then.. [1] Raise the issue with concrete steps on what you think need to be done. Just rants on things not being done will lead to /dev/null [2] Instead of going for new teams, start projects under the Loco team itself. You can make use of the wiki and mailing list (by using a special [tag] to indicate related mails). Thus if you feel language foo doesn't have enough focus and work on it, then start a ubuntu-in-foo *project* under ubuntu-in loco team instead of starting a ubuntu-foo team itself. This is because [1] You cause the loco team not to be aware of anything happening in the foo teams. [2] People might get confused of the many foo teams which might exist in parallel to the lubuntu-in oco team [3] This is nearly breaking the loco team into parts which work in their own ways. Also this will lead to formation of 100s of foo thinks as and when some one think they need to. Please refrain from formation of ubuntu-foo teams which can otherwise comfortably operate inside the loco team. When one part of the Loco team is trying to spread the awareness about it, there are other groups which are proving to be distractive to the process. Please understand Loco team is nothing about leadership, authority or fame. It is more about unity and contribution. If you are anyways not satisfied with the performance of current responsibility holders, then publicly seek to take up the responsibility in this mailing list and the matter will be looked up asap. Hope this makes people understand what our concerns are and do not again make us repeat the same points in future. - -- With Regards, Parthan aka Technofreak [web] http://technofreak.in [blog] blog.technofreak.in [photos] photos.technofreak.in [irc] teKnofreak @ irc.freenode.net (#linux-india) [mobile] BLR +919845446647 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org Bang on, Parthan. Perfect reply and this should put end to all things taht deserve /dev/null Plus there is a feature in mailman called Topics. we can use that for different projects under India LoCO team. STRESSED We must not go to smaller fragmented teams. /STRESSED -- -- ALLAH HAFIZ --- Mir Nazim --- mobile: +91-9906478306 --- website: http://www.xensoftlabs.com blog: http://mirnazim.wordpress.com --- Yahoo, Gmail/GTalk, Skype, AOL : mirnazim -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?
Unfortunatly they own 99% of the phone lines so *nobody* has a choice. I am looking forward to WIMAX to get away from them. -- Matthew G Larsen Try living in the Kingston Communications area then mate. There, you really don't have a choice! One ISP who can charge whatever they like Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Mark Steele wrote: Matthew Larsen wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a No - Linux is my OS of choice now.* * And linux is currently at 13.11%, compared to Windows at 61.31% John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What mail client do people use.
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 15:07 +0100, Kirrus wrote: - Jim Kissel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Morley wrote: I used to hate using Evolution but since I last used it to the release in Gutsy things have improved greatly. The whole experience is a pleasure. So I just wondered what everyone else uses? Thunderbird under ubuntu Zimbra's Open Source webmail via Firefox (on ubuntu). My work home email are merged, and the webmail runs on our secure internal server... -- Blog: www.kirrus.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 I use evolution out of habit, does all i need. For the record, i'm busy screaming at M$ (in my head) for their failed attempt at an email client. This Vista windows mail... all i do it add and IMAP account and suddenly everything disappears! This is only a freshly installed windoze!!! I love Linux! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?
Hi, On 24/10/2007, Rhys Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [previous post regarded TalkTalk] Millions steer well clear in my opinion takes months longer to activate the connection and especially if you have a netgear router. Also there are multiple problems with dns servers which can be resolved by setting them yourself. Quite worrying. The reason I am attracted to TalkTalk is the inclusive free international calls, which would save me a lot of money. But obviously if their service is that bad, then it's not worth it - does anyone know if their service has improved since they abandoned the free broadband offer? They appear to give an estimate of when it will be possible to activate the connection, is that likely to be unrealiable, do you think? -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a No - Linux is my OS of choice now.* ** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover *** BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The options have changed a bit now: Yes - I need new spots @18.26% No - I'm happy with Tiger @ 5.61% No - Linux is my OS of choice @ 11.62% No - I'm a Windows user @ 64.49% -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
On 10/26/07, Mark Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Larsen wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a No - Linux is my OS of choice now.* * __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Awesome. I actually emailed them via the contact us page when I noticed Matthew's original post (yes, I'm that sad). Looks like some other people probably emailed them as well, to get them to change it this quickly :-) Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
On 10/26/07, Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: awesome. I wonder if thats a result of the e-mail I sent them? You beat me to it then :) I voted, just. Amazingly Linux is not as far behind as I would have expected. The BBC are probably tired of us Linux users by now... :P Matthew. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Martyn wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The options have changed a bit now: Yes - I need new spots @18.26% No - I'm happy with Tiger @ 5.61% No - Linux is my OS of choice @ 11.62% No - I'm a Windows user @ 64.49% I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next 3000. Expecially as the Windows Mac users were given a head start. The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added - and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very casual observation). Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer? :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Andy, On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 14:09 +0100, andylockran wrote: Martyn wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The options have changed a bit now: Yes - I need new spots @18.26% No - I'm happy with Tiger @ 5.61% No - Linux is my OS of choice @ 11.62% No - I'm a Windows user @ 64.49% I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next 3000. Expecially as the Windows Mac users were given a head start. The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added - and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very casual observation). Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer? What will the BBC do next? First a fake winner on Blue Peter, then trying to fix the votes about the naming of a cat, dodgy footage of the queen and now this! Quite frankly, I'm appalled:-) Regards Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] BECTA warns schools off M$ deal
Interesting referral to OFT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7063716.stm Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Quoting Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a No - Linux is my OS of choice now.* ** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover *** BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now What you say? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video: Zombies in Plain English
- Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a bit of Friday fun: http://www.commoncraft.com/zombies Enjoy :D Is this SFW (audio)? -- Blog: www.kirrus.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Video: Zombies in Plain English
Just a bit of Friday fun: http://www.commoncraft.com/zombies Enjoy :D -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Quoting Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage up!? Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea. Has it been posted on /. yet? Personally I think they got the poll wrong, I think it should have said something like... Yes - Steve Jobs is God and I buy anything he tells me to No - I've got an older pre-G4 867 PPC Mac No - Linux is my OS of choice No - I'm a Microsoft Fanboi/I haven't seen the penguin shaped light yet I wonder what the older PPC Mac users will do. I ended using my iMac G3 as an LTSP client. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
- Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/10/2007, andylockran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martyn wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The options have changed a bit now: Yes - I need new spots @18.26% No - I'm happy with Tiger @ 5.61% No - Linux is my OS of choice @ 11.62% No - I'm a Windows user @ 64.49% I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next 3000. Expecially as the Windows Mac users were given a head start. The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added - and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very casual observation). Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer? So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage up!? Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea. Andy's already beaten you to it ;) http://digg.com/linux_unix/BBC_put_up_poll_without_Linux_option_let_s_show_them -- Blog: www.kirrus.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
On 26/10/2007, andylockran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martyn wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The options have changed a bit now: Yes - I need new spots @18.26% No - I'm happy with Tiger @ 5.61% No - Linux is my OS of choice @ 11.62% No - I'm a Windows user @ 64.49% I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next 3000. Expecially as the Windows Mac users were given a head start. The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added - and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very casual observation). Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer? So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage up!? Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kittens in ubuntu pose
Dave Morley wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 15:37 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: Quoting Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They were probably 6 weeks then, they are 20 weeks old now I think, one has died now though, was just looking through old phones and kind of saw a little resemblance, if anyone wants to play with it please do. Regards, Daniel Aww poor thing. Did you keep the other two? The top one looks a lot like my kitten Guybrush*. Rob * Bonus points if you can work out where the name is from. :-) Monkey Island That's easy :) Ahh it's easy if you've played it. My kitten had to go to the vets at about 6 weeks old, the vet and the nurses wondered where the name had come from. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
On Friday 26 October 2007 13:21, Chris Rowson wrote: Looks like they've changed the options, we've got a No - Linux is my OS of choice now.* ** WARNING - lolcats/topic crossover *** BBC r belong to de Linux peoplz now aagh.. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Think their polls work on ip addresses? Or think you could sit there and continually click linux? Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirrus Sent: 26 October 2007 15:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices - Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/10/2007, andylockran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martyn wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm Options: Will you be buying Leopard? Yes - I need new spots! No - Tiger for me! I'm a Windows user! Vote! -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The options have changed a bit now: Yes - I need new spots @18.26% No - I'm happy with Tiger @ 5.61% No - Linux is my OS of choice @ 11.62% No - I'm a Windows user @ 64.49% I find it strange that the percentages seem to change so little after another 3000 votes.. I wouldn't have thought that there was such a clear relationship between the first 2000 voters on the site, and the next 3000. Expecially as the Windows Mac users were given a head start. The linux figure popped up at ~11% when I first noticed it was added - and no figures have changed by more than 1% since (according to my very casual observation). Are the BBC fixing the figures to justify the iPlayer? So maybe a combined effort is needed to push the Linux percentage up!? Have we all blogged about it? has it been dugg? Just an idea. Andy's already beaten you to it ;) http://digg.com/linux_unix/BBC_put_up_poll_without_Linux_option_let_s_show_t hem -- Blog: www.kirrus.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Rob Beard wrote: Personally I think they got the poll wrong, I think it should have said something like... Yes - Steve Jobs is God and I buy anything he tells me to No - I've got an older pre-G4 867 PPC Mac No - Linux is my OS of choice No - I'm a Microsoft Fanboi/I haven't seen the penguin shaped light yet I wonder what the older PPC Mac users will do. I ended using my iMac G3 as an LTSP client. Rob I have a g3 iMac I use as a jukebox, running OS X 10.3. Been meaning to Ubuntize it, and get Amarok to perform the musical duties. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video: Zombies in Plain English
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 14:08 +0100, Kirrus wrote: - Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a bit of Friday fun: http://www.commoncraft.com/zombies Enjoy :D Is this SFW (audio)? Yes, SFW. It has audio, but no swearing or orgasmic moaning... :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:32 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Think their polls work on ip addresses? Or think you could sit there and continually click linux? Daniel You can vote more than once - I accidentally voted 3 times when i was resfreshing the page to see how the results had changed -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video: Zombies in Plain English
- Philip Newborough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this SFW (audio)? Yes, SFW. It has audio, but no swearing or orgasmic moaning... :) LOL how dumb do I feel. Here was me thinking that SFW was some kind of new audio codec or something. Doh! My only excuse is that I don't have to worry about these issues :D Don't worry about it... just feel lucky you don't ;) I should have said it in full really, sorry! (for those who haven't followed, SFW == Safe For Work) -- Blog: www.kirrus.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mono display in cshell konsole window etc..
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:04:51 +0100 Julie Hodgkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I change shell from bash to csh konsole window text is just white on black, ie no colour text. ls doesn't use colour by default (so that you don't get weird looking colour codes on terminals that don't understand them). There is some logic in the bash start up files to decide if your terminal understands colour and alias 'ls' to 'ls --color=always' if it does. This might not be happening with csh. Do you get colour output if you run 'ls --color=always'? I'm not sure what would be wrong with the history navigation using the up/down keys. The man page for csh says these should be set up automatically. The output from 'bindkey' might shed some light: is up bound to up-history? Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com If at first you do succeed, try not to look astonished. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PC Freezing on updates with Gutsy
OK, so I have re-downloaded the iso - and the MD5sum checks out fine. I reinstalled it OK and everything looked fine - UNTIL i enabled the proprietry NVIDIA drivers for my 7200GS. I then got the same problems - exactly. Once I disabled them again evertyhing worked perfectly. I even tried using envy to install them ( www.ablertomilone.com) and the problem returned. A friend has suggested it might be an Open GL conflict somewhere along the lines, but I am at a loss on how to proceed now. Any help would be awesome :) Colin. Colin Wylie wrote: Kirrus wrote: Hi - "Colin Wylie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, snip to the PC - the installer froze up at about 82% on the configuring apt snip system freezing and locking up again. Finally (after a few google searches) I found a list of repositories, and tried via apt-get - whcih worked. But as I don't know the names of all packages and dependencies I want - this aint too good :( So - has anyone else encountered this - or does it sound like I may have a hardware fault? It's driving me nuts. I really want to ditch Windows for good, but only if it's gonna work! It sounds like you *may* have a dodgy install cd... can you check the md5sums for your disc/*.iso file against what it should be? There's a good how-to here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM (What the sum should look like can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes) Regards, Kirrus I'll give that a blast - but I did verify my CD from the boot menu - and it said it was OK. Badger. avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000782-3, 19/10/2007 Tested on: 19/10/2007 16:36:22 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000782-3, 19/10/2007 Tested on: 19/10/2007 16:40:22 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 25/10/2007Tested on: 26/10/2007 16:40:35avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices - promoting the message?
A few thoughts here: - The BBC aren't dumb. If people are constantly re-voting for the same option, they'll notice, and if Linux people are doing that more than the rest, they'll probably start looking askance at ANY figures that show Linux adoption. - While it's not unknown for broadcasters to show fixed results, it seems unlikely in this case, and to a certain extent it's not about what the punters see, but what the internal BBC execs will see... so please vote if you haven't. - I've posted a quick link to the poll on another Linux-related list that hasn't already mentioned it. If you are a member of your local Lug list (and if not, why not?) and they haven't started talking about it, feel free to spread the link :-) M. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Alec Wright wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:32 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Think their polls work on ip addresses? Or think you could sit there and continually click linux? Daniel You can vote more than once - I accidentally voted 3 times when i was resfreshing the page to see how the results had changed Whoopsie, my F5 key got stuck ;) Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Interesting BBC Poll Choices
Alec Wright wrote: On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 15:32 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Think their polls work on ip addresses? Or think you could sit there and continually click linux? Daniel You can vote more than once - I accidentally voted 3 times when i was resfreshing the page to see how the results had changed I gave it 5 refreshes for good measure ;) avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 25/10/2007Tested on: 26/10/2007 16:56:02avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Downgrading Ubuntu
Dave Walker wrote: [...] Downgrading Ubuntu is widely agreed that it's not a good idea. However, if Gutsy's really not working out backup at least /etc /home; then if it isn't successful at least you can perform a fresh install of Feisty (my recommended first choice). Hello, Dave. Upsetting users by taking the systems down and re-installing them from scratch isn't a good idea either. I guess it depends on the situation you're in... I forgot to mention to Ian about editing /etc/sources.list (of course). Best wishes, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PC Freezing on updates with Gutsy
Ah - I should have said that I had tried that - to no avail :( Matthew Wild wrote: On 10/26/07, Colin Wylie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so I have re-downloaded the iso - and the MD5sum checks out fine. I reinstalled it OK and everything looked fine - UNTIL i enabled the proprietry NVIDIA drivers for my 7200GS. I then got the same problems - exactly. Once I disabled them again evertyhing worked perfectly. I even tried using envy to install them ( www.ablertomilone.com) and the problem returned. A friend has suggested it might be an Open GL conflict somewhere along the lines, but I am at a loss on how to proceed now. Hmm, could you try disabling "wobbly windows"/Compiz? System-Preferences-Appearance... On the "Visual Effects" tab, select "None". If it doesn't make any difference, log out, hit Ctrl + Alt + Backpace, and log back in again. Just to make sure. Matthew. --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 25/10/2007 Tested on: 26/10/2007 18:44:56 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 25/10/2007Tested on: 26/10/2007 19:01:06avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PC Freezing on updates with Gutsy
On 10/26/07, Colin Wylie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, so I have re-downloaded the iso - and the MD5sum checks out fine. I reinstalled it OK and everything looked fine - UNTIL i enabled the proprietry NVIDIA drivers for my 7200GS. I then got the same problems - exactly. Once I disabled them again evertyhing worked perfectly. I even tried using envy to install them ( www.ablertomilone.com) and the problem returned. A friend has suggested it might be an Open GL conflict somewhere along the lines, but I am at a loss on how to proceed now. Hmm, could you try disabling wobbly windows/Compiz? System-Preferences-Appearance... On the Visual Effects tab, select None. If it doesn't make any difference, log out, hit Ctrl + Alt + Backpace, and log back in again. Just to make sure. Matthew. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?
Matthew Larsen wrote: [...] Well your a very lucky dog because BT is absolutely appauling with me, and has been since 2001. They are slow, expensive, force you to have a phone line, unreliable, traffic filter when they feel like and enforce their stupid rules on you (ie they always have to send mail to your BT account: Even if you NEVER use it because they spam you on it). They are not interested in getting off their backsides to help you as a user. Ever. They lie. They cheat. I hate them and unfortunatly the government will not do anything to sort them out. I believe they are crippling this country with their incompetence. Unfortunatly they own 99% of the phone lines so *nobody* has a choice. I am looking forward to WIMAX to get away from them. Hello, Matthew. Seems I'm very lucky too: No complaints about BT, and we have two lines into our house just for good measure ;-) Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] /home partition
On 26/10/2007, Farran Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool, thanks. Looks like the best option. is there some kind of website where I can upload and privately store the necessary files instead of burning them to disc? I don't have a burner... I'm not going to risk upgrading, had too many problems in the past. I'll just wait until I've built my new pc [image: ;)]... Don't know of any websites that will do it for free, but you could look at rsync.net or Amazon's S3 (google finds it, I don't know a direct URL). I haven't used either yet, but I'm considering doing so. Maybe Google offers a free solution... Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PC Freezing on updates with Gutsy
Hi, Can you submit a new bug ticket on launchpad.net, and then post a bug number here :) -- Blog: www.kirrus.co.uk RPGs: Captain Senaris Vlenn, CO, USS Sarek Lt Aieron Peters, XO DS5 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?
Matt Honestly, I don't think your utopia will happen anywhere outside of large metropolises - with the advent of local loop unbundling and WLR 3. It's now more cost effective as a Telco to get BT to install your line and then badge it as your own as the infrastructure cost in getting service out to your subsrivers is, well, phenomonal. This is why BT as was has been broken up into seperate trading units and n'er the twain shall meet without undue punishment. Of course, if you're lucky enough to live in a cabled area, you can jump onto that bandwagon and enjoy those delights. E PS This may be slightly biased as I'm employed by a BT subsidary. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Travis Sent: 26 October 2007 18:33 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP? Matthew Larsen wrote: [...] Well your a very lucky dog because BT is absolutely appauling with me, and has been since 2001. They are slow, expensive, force you to have a phone line, unreliable, traffic filter when they feel like and enforce their stupid rules on you (ie they always have to send mail to your BT account: Even if you NEVER use it because they spam you on it). They are not interested in getting off their backsides to help you as a user. Ever. They lie. They cheat. I hate them and unfortunatly the government will not do anything to sort them out. I believe they are crippling this country with their incompetence. Unfortunatly they own 99% of the phone lines so *nobody* has a choice. I am looking forward to WIMAX to get away from them. Hello, Matthew. Seems I'm very lucky too: No complaints about BT, and we have two lines into our house just for good measure ;-) Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Downgrading Ubuntu
Tony / Dave Thanks for the responses. Doesn't look as though it's a Ubuntu problem, but a Gnome one. So I'm going to hang fire on the downgrade for a fortnight or so, and use the work arounds provided and see what happens. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Travis Sent: 26 October 2007 18:38 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Downgrading Ubuntu Dave Walker wrote: [...] Downgrading Ubuntu is widely agreed that it's not a good idea. However, if Gutsy's really not working out backup at least /etc /home; then if it isn't successful at least you can perform a fresh install of Feisty (my recommended first choice). Hello, Dave. Upsetting users by taking the systems down and re-installing them from scratch isn't a good idea either. I guess it depends on the situation you're in... I forgot to mention to Ian about editing /etc/sources.list (of course). Best wishes, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] PC Freezing on updates with Gutsy
Kirrus wrote: Hi, Can you submit a new bug ticket on launchpad.net, and then post a bug number here :) Submitted - #157564 Colin. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 25/10/2007 Tested on: 26/10/2007 22:20:04 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Testing was Downgrading Ubuntu
One of the critisisums that have been raised against the ATSPI users is lack of testing in certain scenarios. Most of the testers use the latest Live CDs, but it appears very few test the upgrade paths. So, I was wondering what would be required to fulfill this particular area. That of upgrade tester. As I only have one machine at present, the only way I can see to do this is to have two totally seperate installations - one for day-to-day work, and the other for testing - is this practical, would this work, and can GRUB deal with it? Secondly, you'd be wanting to test the upgrade from the latest updated stable version, so after you've done the testing installation for the first time, can you make an image of it to make re-installation a quick and painless thing? And update the image to take account of future stable updates. Thoughts and suggestions please E -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Memory problems with Gutsy and OpenOffice
Hello, A first post by someone who has been lurking for some time, picking up useful bits of information. I used Synaptic to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, and now find that OpenOffice Calc slows right down and can freeze my computer after a few minutes of use. Using System Monitor shows that memory usage climbs to about 95% (of 512 Mb) whereupon things grind to halt with the hard drive running continuously. I had previously noticed that System Monitor reported the swap size as 7.8 Mb, whereas I thought I had a swap partition of something like 512 Mb, but I never bothered much about this as there did not seem to be any problems when I was using Feisty - I thought that maybe it was being reported wrongly. However, GParted showed that the swap partition was only indeed about 8 Mb, and so I increased it to about 512 Mb. However, the swap size still appears to be only 8 Mb after re-booting and using sudo swapoff -a sudo swapon /dev/sdb5 sudo swapon -s Any suggestions as to how I can get all the swap partition into use? Also, has anyone else had similar problems with OpenOffice and Gutsy? I have used Google to try to find out about this, but although there are some problems being reported, none of them seem to be related to mine. So far I have re-installed OpenOffice Calc without any improvement, but have still to try re-installing the whole OpenOffice suite. One other problem with the upgrade was that VMplayer no longer worked - I had to uninstall it and download the latest version from the VMware website to get it working again. Les. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu - The Next Generation
Trawling through my usual read of the technology pages I came across this article on the BBC Technology page, entitled Schools warned off Microsoft deal. You can read the details here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7063716.stm and I would also recommend that you read more about the history of the issue here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4558171.stm Now it seems to me, that with more and more overseas educational establishments going the open source route to great effect, that we should concentrate our efforts a little more closer to home. Ubuntu and and more pertinently its derivative Edubuntu, have now evolved to a stage where it is a more than viable alternative to the M$ option. More over, if linux open source is to continue to grow in the mainstream user groups, the we have to start cultivating the next generation of users, programmers and enthusiasts now. How many of us have children ( I have 12, 7 still at home) that use computers daily for various things from instant messaging to homework (in that order!) Its time that the snazzy looking desktop that Daddy (or Mom) is using gets promoted more amoungst our kids and their mates. After all its free and fast and looks good. The more that our kids go to school with Ubuntu (or Edubuntu) on their lips and open source as opposed to the usual, on their minds; will only help to convince the powers that be in education that perhaps, it would make more educational and economic sense to switch to open source for their educational ICT needs. The support network is already in place and I am sure would cost much less than the constant licensing fees payable to you know who. The is also a much more important aspect to kids using open source in schools and it is this. Ubuntu and most of the other desktop aspiring distros are still works in progress though Ubuntu, of them all is getting mighty close to what the user wants to see working out of the box Those young, intellingent (for the most part) and inquiring minds could only benefit from using an OS where sometimes a little thinking, reading and exploration is needed, as opposed to using one that is presented to them as a fait accompli (though in the case of hasta la vista even this is not true!). Also, given the innovative nature of children, there could be a lot to be gained from the insight of those who have not had the long history of using the provided system warts and all and have not developed the cynicism that a lot of us older heads have. So why not show off our spinning, working, super fast desktops to our kids more, give a few live cd's to our kids to give to their mates (or teachers), install edubuntu on our computers at home and show them how all of the wonderful stuff in there comes as standard and is free, to use, change (hopefully for the better) as they please. Out of the mouths of babes What say you brethren... n3m3sis - For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit Yahoo! For Good this month.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] VMWare on gutsy
Hi Kris, On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 11:29 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: Sorry about that, I was looking to install Virtual Box on my machine, but I need to know whether it supports usb devices *cough* ipod touch *cough*. The current version of free Virtual Box still doesn’t give a support for access your USB. But you can make a trick. Just use the ‘Shared Folder’ to mount your USB to your VirtualBox. So, you can access the USB from both your Ubuntu and your other OS in the VirtualBox at the same time. http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/10/27/access-your-usb-drive-from-virtual-box-in-ubuntu/ Taufan Lubis www.taufanlubis.wordpress.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What mail client do people use.
I use Evolution. I think it's fast, a lot of features and I got no spam at all. Taufan Lubis www.taufanlubis.wordpress.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP?
I'll second that, very good uptime and low latency with F2S. They also provide extra IPs if necessary. I used to have XBox Live and it ran much better with its own public address. I run a server as well which I can get a good 32KBytes/sec when downloading remotely, even with heavy P2P sessions I get very good throughput. They don't block any ports either. Their tech support is indeed helpful but since the Pipex deal I have noticed phone queuing times go up (say 2-10 mins in the middle of the day). I used to have the type of service that Skeg has, but upgraded it to the 8Mbps adaptive service a couple of years ago and the only thing that has caused my speed to suffer is the dodgy BT line I'm stuck with. On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 01:29 +0100, Skeg Fast wrote: I've been using Freedom2Surf ADSL for a couple of years. I signed up before they were bought by Pipex and started imposing bandwidth limits. I could 'upgrade' to an 8 meg connection but it would be bandwidth-limited during peak-time in the small print so I stick to my 2 meg connection. 120 gig/month up+down is a bit beyond reasonable for most ISPs :( Recently Tiscali took over (bad, bad!) but I haven't noticed any throttling/port blocking/other evilness. Uptime is great (incidentally, the reason I switched to Linux was because I got fed up of XP needing a reboot every week or so to keep my USB modem alive). F2S still exist as a separate entity and I'd recommend them. I've never had to call their tech support so I don't know how good it is. They have a nice web interface where you can check your bandwidth usage, update account details, add/remove @f2s.com email accounts with or without SpamAssassin, mess with (unlimited?) [EMAIL PROTECTED] emails. If you need it they even have a (small) website thingy with php and MySql. Best of all, you get a static IP and (when I signed up) they were geek friendly (they email you with the DNS and email server addys with your account details for example). I haven't visited for a while, but they have their own independent support forums at freedom2support.net which are (were?) frequented by techies that work for the company. So if you're thinking of switching then I'd look there first. Ian Pascoe wrote: Matt Honestly, I don't think your utopia will happen anywhere outside of large metropolises - with the advent of local loop unbundling and WLR 3. It's now more cost effective as a Telco to get BT to install your line and then badge it as your own as the infrastructure cost in getting service out to your subsrivers is, well, phenomonal. This is why BT as was has been broken up into seperate trading units and n'er the twain shall meet without undue punishment. Of course, if you're lucky enough to live in a cabled area, you can jump onto that bandwagon and enjoy those delights. E PS This may be slightly biased as I'm employed by a BT subsidary. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Travis Sent: 26 October 2007 18:33 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Best ISP? Matthew Larsen wrote: [...] Well your a very lucky dog because BT is absolutely appauling with me, and has been since 2001. They are slow, expensive, force you to have a phone line, unreliable, traffic filter when they feel like and enforce their stupid rules on you (ie they always have to send mail to your BT account: Even if you NEVER use it because they spam you on it). They are not interested in getting off their backsides to help you as a user. Ever. They lie. They cheat. I hate them and unfortunatly the government will not do anything to sort them out. I believe they are crippling this country with their incompetence. Unfortunatly they own 99% of the phone lines so *nobody* has a choice. I am looking forward to WIMAX to get away from them. Hello, Matthew. Seems I'm very lucky too: No complaints about BT, and we have two lines into our house just for good measure ;-) Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: problem with orca+magnifier under Gutsy
Hi: Alt+F4 means to close/kill the currently focused window. The magnifier really isn't a window that gets focus, so pressing Alt+F4 will kill the window that has focus (e.g., your e-mail application, like I just did when I couldn't remember what Alt+F4 did). Killing the magnifier is similar to killing speech: you need to exit Orca or tell Orca to stop magnifying the window. Will Labrador wrote: Hi, I saw wednsday a demo of the latest Ubuntu Gutsy distro. Some blind person in the room asked to demonstrate the Accessibility part, and the guy did it; but just like at home where my wife uses Feisty it was impossible to stop the magnifyer with ALT+F4 or so, so the demonstrator had to restart Gnome: is this a hidden feature ? or is this a bug ? and so, if yes, it would be very nice to fix this or to resolve this problem in a simple and intuitive way (why not using ALT+F4) to close magnification. Anyway the problem was still present while already present under Feisty, the previous Ubuntu. Labrad0r -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: problem with orca+magnifier under Gutsy
Hi: The problem is that sighted persons who sometimes totally ignore anything about magnifying+orca so when demonstrating it, they simply get into panic and they had to restart gnome brutally with ctrl+alt+backspace. The demographic this request is catering to is a small percentage of users: the ignorant demoer with good intentions. I'll admit we should try to make things nicer for them, though. I think I need to better understand how the user got into this situation. How did the person enable magnification? What button did they press or checkbox did they check or command did they run? Does you see the stop or exit button or something like that when the magnifier is active ? WellAlt+F4 is out of the question. That's for killing windows with focus. I suppose we could make up a new command, but we already have one -- Insert+Space to bring up the Orca Preferences dialog. If the user knows that, they already know a bit about Orca, though. The Orca main window typically appears by default and the user usually has to go out of their way to disable it. So, I guess I need to know more about what the user did to start Orca+magnifier and what, if any, windows appears on the desktop. Will -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: Lost the Reboot and Power Off button from the QUIT option
Last night I tried again and everything worked well. Oh well. I will go back to ubuntustudio-7.04 and then upgrade to 7.10 may be in 2-3 months. Thanks On 10/25/07, Luis de Bethencourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you paste in here the version of the Ubuntu Studio menu you are using? Luis On 10/25/07, Raja Krishnamoorthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed Ubuntu-Studio Gutsy on my Toshiba Tecra M4 tablet pc. I noticed that when I rotate the tablet using the Screen Resolution and select Rotate Right, the orientation is correct, but the stylus does not function well. The pointer does not track with the stylus. This was not an issue with Ubuntu-Studio 7.04. I installed wacom-tools and updated my xorg.conf files to enable tablet functionality. So when I went to reboot using System -- Quit, I seem to have lost my Reboot and Power Off options. All I see is logout, Hibernate, suspend and switch user. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Raja -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
qjackctl realtime question
hello i am trying to use qjackctl with the realtime option checked, so far with no luck. i get the following information in the messages window: 08:36:06.348 Patchbay deactivated. 08:36:06.358 Statistics reset. JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] 08:36:06.424 MIDI connection graph change. 08:36:06.611 MIDI connection change. 08:38:45.061 Startup script... 08:38:45.061 artsshell -q terminate JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] can't create mcop directory Link points to /tmp/ksocket-jason 08:38:45.547 Startup script terminated with exit status=256. 08:38:45.547 JACK is starting... 08:38:45.547 /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p512 -n3 -P -m -S 08:38:45.548 JACK was started with PID=5899 (0x170b). jackd 0.103.0 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details JACK compiled with System V SHM support. cannot use real-time scheduling (FIFO at priority 10) [for thread -1210570048, from thread -1210570048] (1: Operation not permitted) cannot create engine 08:38:45.651 JACK was stopped successfully. 08:38:45.651 Post-shutdown script... 08:38:45.651 killall jackd jackd: no process killed 08:38:45.858 Post-shutdown script terminated with exit status=256. 08:38:47.575 Could not connect to JACK server as client. Please check the messages window for more info. JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm] my set-up in qjackctl is: server path: /usr/bin/jack driver: alsa frames/period: 512 sample rate: 44100 periods/buffer/3 interface: (default) dither: none audio: playback only i am using kernel 2.6.22-14-rt on a lenovo t61 laptop with hda intel or AD198x Analog sound cards. qjackctl version 0.2.22 alsa-base version 1.0.14-1 i'm not really getting any x-runs with my settings, but i figured since i am running the realtime kernel i should also be able to use this with qjackctl. thanks in advance for any help! jason -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Ubuntu Studio-Feisty repos will close on 10/28/07
With Ubuntu Studio-Gutsy our packages have moved into the Ubuntu proper repos. We encourage everyone to use those packages. We will be shutting down the repo mostly due to maintenance/bandwidth costs. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10
Hi Darrin, Well, I downloaded the regular Ubuntu Gutsy live CD, installed it clean and tested it out - I don't think Compiz Fusion is terribly interesting, so I reinstalled from the Ubutu Studio CD (clean install again) and tested with just the laptop, then with the 22 widescreen attached. If I use the 'intel' driver, it works great on the laptop screen, but doesn't allow me to turn off the internal display when using the external monitor, this is the same situation I had in Feisty, so I switched to i810 and put in a shell script to set both modes, now the switch is transparent. Then I started tackling the wifi issue - The clean install works great, it's after I connect and apply the current updates that it breaks down, so this time while I was online, before applying any updates, I went out and got a program called WICD and installed it. After I applied the updates, I tested on reboots, etc and it's working fine. I was also able to install the screens and graphics package, and that works too, although I won't be doing much with it at this time, I'm hoping they come up with a new intel driver that solves the rest of the video issues with Intel chipsets. Looks like everything is good right now, thanks for your help, I'm just not familiar enough with all the Linux commands to be at the level I was at with Windows. I've printed out a few manuals and I keep them handy when I start crashing the system and X won't load. The good thing I've noticed about Gutsy is that it does seem to run cooler on my Dual Core laptop, it used to get pretty hot under Feisty. Anyway, thanks for your help, I'll save those commands in case I get stuck again. - Original Message From: Darrin Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:04:22 PM Subject: Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10 Oops, I forgot to include starting up dhcp into the commands. Got ahead of myself. Here it is again (also, this is assuming that your wireless interface is ath0; it could easily be something else, like ra0, or eth1. etc to see what your interface is, use iwconfig): $ sudo su $ ifconfig ath0 up $ dhclient ath0 $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey Also, in place of the second and third line, you could instead use: $ ifdown ath0 ifup ath0 This will bring down your wireless interface, bring it back up, and will start dhcp. If the Network Manager is not cutting it for you, try out Wifi Radar; it can be installed with Synaptic. http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/ Good luck! - Darrin On 10/24/07, Matt Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Darrin, Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try. My issue was that I could see the network, but was unable to connect beyond just to the local access point. I use the internet from wifi hotspots, so typically I connect to a webpage, log in, and then that grants me access to the outside world. I was getting the local login prompt, but after putting in my info, I never got the response back. I've seen the same problem reported on the forums, but I didn't see anyone post a clear fix or workaround. I did see one person suggest removing network manager and using a different tool - so I'm also going to get the details on that and give Gutsy one more try. Darrin Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you have mentioned wifi issues with Gutsy. When I upgraded to 7.10, when I added the Network Manager to my top panel, I noticed that it did not give me any wireless options, which means that I was not able to use the gui in order to connect to a wireless network. Not sure why this was the case since I am assuming that things generally only get better with upgrades, rather than digress. I was able to manually connect to wifi with the following: $ sudo su $ ifconfig ath0 up $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey However, now my Network Manager seems to be properly displaying my wifi networks and allows me to connect/disconnect to/from them as needed. The only thing that I changed was that I installed wifiradar, although I have not used it yet. Perhaps there was an update that was pushed out that solved the Network-Manager issue. For those of you who stated that you cannot connect to wifi, I wonder if you mean that your Network Manager is not working properly, or if you cannot manually connect to wifi using the commands that I listed above? - Darrin On 10/24/07, Pietro Bergamo wrote: Thank you for the hints. Best regards, Pietro Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or
Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10
Matt, I'm glad that it worked out for you. If you are interested, here is a great resource (one of many I'm sure) for Linux commands (this is associated with bash, but most of these commands will also work with other shells too): http://www.ss64.com/bash/ Cheers! - Darrin On 10/26/07, Matt Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Darrin, Well, I downloaded the regular Ubuntu Gutsy live CD, installed it clean and tested it out - I don't think Compiz Fusion is terribly interesting, so I reinstalled from the Ubutu Studio CD (clean install again) and tested with just the laptop, then with the 22 widescreen attached. If I use the 'intel' driver, it works great on the laptop screen, but doesn't allow me to turn off the internal display when using the external monitor, this is the same situation I had in Feisty, so I switched to i810 and put in a shell script to set both modes, now the switch is transparent. Then I started tackling the wifi issue - The clean install works great, it's after I connect and apply the current updates that it breaks down, so this time while I was online, before applying any updates, I went out and got a program called WICD and installed it. After I applied the updates, I tested on reboots, etc and it's working fine. I was also able to install the screens and graphics package, and that works too, although I won't be doing much with it at this time, I'm hoping they come up with a new intel driver that solves the rest of the video issues with Intel chipsets. Looks like everything is good right now, thanks for your help, I'm just not familiar enough with all the Linux commands to be at the level I was at with Windows. I've printed out a few manuals and I keep them handy when I start crashing the system and X won't load. The good thing I've noticed about Gutsy is that it does seem to run cooler on my Dual Core laptop, it used to get pretty hot under Feisty. Anyway, thanks for your help, I'll save those commands in case I get stuck again. - Original Message From: Darrin Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:04:22 PM Subject: Re: ubuntu studio and ubuntu 7.10 Oops, I forgot to include starting up dhcp into the commands. Got ahead of myself. Here it is again (also, this is assuming that your wireless interface is ath0; it could easily be something else, like ra0, or eth1. etc to see what your interface is, use iwconfig): $ sudo su $ ifconfig ath0 up $ dhclient ath0 $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey Also, in place of the second and third line, you could instead use: $ ifdown ath0 ifup ath0 This will bring down your wireless interface, bring it back up, and will start dhcp. If the Network Manager is not cutting it for you, try out Wifi Radar; it can be installed with Synaptic. http://wifi-radar.systemimager.org/ Good luck! - Darrin On 10/24/07, Matt Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Darrin, Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try. My issue was that I could see the network, but was unable to connect beyond just to the local access point. I use the internet from wifi hotspots, so typically I connect to a webpage, log in, and then that grants me access to the outside world. I was getting the local login prompt, but after putting in my info, I never got the response back. I've seen the same problem reported on the forums, but I didn't see anyone post a clear fix or workaround. I did see one person suggest removing network manager and using a different tool - so I'm also going to get the details on that and give Gutsy one more try. Darrin Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of you have mentioned wifi issues with Gutsy. When I upgraded to 7.10, when I added the Network Manager to my top panel, I noticed that it did not give me any wireless options, which means that I was not able to use the gui in order to connect to a wireless network. Not sure why this was the case since I am assuming that things generally only get better with upgrades, rather than digress. I was able to manually connect to wifi with the following: $ sudo su $ ifconfig ath0 up $ iwconfig ath0 essid yourRouterNameHere key routerWepKey However, now my Network Manager seems to be properly displaying my wifi networks and allows me to connect/disconnect to/from them as needed. The only thing that I changed was that I installed wifiradar, although I have not used it yet. Perhaps there was an update that was pushed out that solved the Network-Manager issue. For those of you who stated that you cannot connect to wifi, I wonder if you mean that your Network Manager is not working properly, or if you cannot manually connect to wifi using the commands that I listed above? - Darrin On 10/24/07, Pietro Bergamo wrote: Thank you for the
Re: qjackctl realtime question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: hello thanks very much for your answers! i tried to recommended solution: looks like your /etc/security/limits.conf is not set properly. An Upgrade to studio seems to fail to set this, the install from DVD does this OK. This file needs to have the following 3 lines at its end: @audio - rtprio 99 @audio - memlock 86 @audio - nice-10 but this didn't seem to make a difference. is there something else i need to do? what says: #uname -a ? and: #cat /etc/groups|grep audio ? If you got the rt-kernel running and if you are in group audio, everything should be at its best... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIoxU1Aecwva1SWMRAueQAJ4xKRp7B4TGMuNp1EUmkTUcsmR49wCbBUak TZWFJvUx8kAFMWKuZfwhy+8= =phBY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: qjackctl realtime question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Leonard schrieb: Hartmut Noack wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: looks like your /etc/security/limits.conf is not set properly. An Upgrade to studio seems to fail to set this, No. A upgrade handles it fine. There's a point in the upgrade where it will ask you if you want to replace the file. You gotta say no. ;) Great. Now I have to fix that...wonder what else is screwed up. Probably killed all the realtime settings as wellpbb!!! it is not really such a big deal to do these settings nowadays. Within 10 min or so you should be OK again ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHIo041Aecwva1SWMRAhRsAKCQRZ71tuCDDje8CQqzBgtd01zjJgCfbNrv JDLsoahZjTzFhXkIFg+XNqQ= =QeiG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Broadcom + DV6110us
é compativel sim, eu ja utilizei o driver nativo do windows no meu not Jose Lera escreveu: Não será que voce está tentando instalar os dois ao mesmo tempo. O ndiswrapper não é compativel com o driver bcm43xx. Esperimente colocar o driver bcm43xx na blacklist antes de carregar o ndiswrapper. Acho que pode ser isso que está acontecendo. []'s Lera Em 25/10/07, Peterson Danda [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Estou configurando Gutsy num HP DV6110US de um amigo meu mas estou tendo problemas com o wireless, uma broadcom 43. Já tentei subir o módulo tanto usando o bm43xx-fwcutter quanto o ndiswrapper e ambos me dão a mesma saída: tail -f /var/log/messages com bcm43xx Oct 25 10:13:25 relatividade kernel: [ 5498.842289] bcm43xx driver Oct 25 10:13:25 relatividade kernel: [ 5498.842832] PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device :02:00.0. dmesg com bcm43xx [ 5498.842842] PCI: Setting latency timer of device :02:00.0 to 64 [ 5499.261657] bcm43xx: Cannot register IRQ0 [ 5502.567690] Trying to free already-free IRQ 0 [ 5502.642948] bcm43xx: IRQ_READY timeout tail -f /var/log/messages com ndiswrapper Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.863387] ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Broadcom,10/12/2006, 4.100.15.5) loaded Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.864784] PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device :02:00.0. Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.867981] ndiswrapper (IoConnectInterrupt:566): request for irq 0 failed Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.867985] ndiswrapper: request for IRQ 0 failed Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.868145] ndiswrapper (mp_init:216): couldn't initialize device: C09A Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.868153] ndiswrapper (pnp_start_device:439): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C001) Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.868168] ndiswrapper (mp_halt:258): device d5d20500 is not initialized - not halting Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.868177] ndiswrapper: device eth%%d removed Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.868194] ndiswrapper: probe of :02:00.0 failed with error -22 Oct 25 11:19:04 relatividade kernel: [ 9434.868728] usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper dmesg com ndiswrapper [ 9434.800517] ndiswrapper version 1.47 loaded (smp=yes) [ 9434.863387] ndiswrapper: driver bcmwl5 (Broadcom,10/12/2006, 4.100.15.5) loaded [ 9434.864784] PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device :02:00.0. [ 9434.864823] PCI: Setting latency timer of device :02:00.0 to 64 [ 9434.867981] ndiswrapper (IoConnectInterrupt:566): request for irq 0 failed [ 9434.867985] ndiswrapper: request for IRQ 0 failed [ 9434.868145] ndiswrapper (mp_init:216): couldn't initialize device: C09A [ 9434.868153] ndiswrapper (pnp_start_device:439): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C001) [ 9434.868168] ndiswrapper (mp_halt:258): device d5d20500 is not initialized - not halting [ 9434.868177] ndiswrapper: device eth%d removed [ 9434.868194] ndiswrapper: probe of :02:00.0 failed with error -22 [ 9434.868728] usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper As strings de boot estão assim kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=089f45a0-7a8c-46d3-81cd-11c23b89226f ro quiet splash noapic noacpi nolapic acpi=off pci=assign-busses pci=irqpoll pnpbios=off pci=biosirq pci=routeirq Sabem como posso resolver essa? no 7.04 ele até funcionava... Como faço um downgrade no kernel? existe repositório com kernels antigos? -- Peterson Danda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Técnico Especialista em Computação - TEC/RS Projeto Casa Brasil http://www.casabrasil.gov.br ITI - Casa Civil - Presidência da República Cel: (53) 81143001 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: peterson.d Linux User N° 410330 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ATi fglrx 8.42.3
Marcus, Experimentei os mesmo problemas. Assim como também, pelo que percebi, boa parte dos usuários que testaram. Sobre a performance quanto ao firefox e ao compiz, isso parece ser do próprio driver, que ainda não está tão maduro em matéria de AiGLX. Já sobre os vídeos, parece ter relação com otimizações recentes do driver, que pediriam inclusive uma outra configuração no X. Ainda estou a averiguar isso, entretanto. Tais mudanças permitem, por exemplo, o correto funcionamento do gstreamer, que agora não mais exibe os filmes com imagem azulada, como antes. -Antonio On 10/24/07, Marcus VBP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rapaz, eu instalei o driver novo, ele funcionou. to com o compiz ativado e tudo, sem o xserver-xgl... os jogos do cedega funcionaram (antes, nenhum abria), apesar de que um deles ficou lento. Só que eu tenho notado uma certa lentidão, eu to achando o sistema mais lento pra responder graficamente... a rolagem do firefox tá devagar. quando eu faço algum uso do compiz, como rodar o cubo ou mover as janelas rapidamente, noto uma linha diagonal que quebra a imagem. é difícil de explicar. alguém mais teve este problema e/ou sabe como resolver? minha placa de vídeo: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Em 24/10/07, Khristian [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Não, o tutorial dessa página é para versões anteriores do driver. O novo não usa XGL e tem a extensão composite habilitada. E já é a segunda vez que eu digo a mesma coisa hoje. Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Eduardo Matias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ATi fglrx 8.42.3 To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Basicamente é o que está escrito nesta url : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Enable_.22restricted.22_Repository Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consegui fazê-lo funcionar, depois de muito penar. O problema era um pequeno conflito que os pacotes davam com a versão já instalada. Descrevo aqui o procedimento que utilizei: 1) Remover XGL sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl 2) Remover driver anterior (se presente) sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx 3) Deletar .debs de eventuais instalações antigas sudo rm -f /usr/src/fglrx-kernel*.deb 4) Colocar driver dos repositórios na lista negra sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common e alterar (por exemplo) DISABLED_MODULES= para DISABLED_MODULES=fglrx 5) Criar uma nova pasta e copiar o programa de instalação mkdir ~/ati cd ~/ati wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run 6) Instalar pacotes necessários sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic 7) Criar .debs ./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy 8) Instalar pacotes sudo dpkg -i *.deb (e, novamente) sudo apt-get -f install ou sudo dpkg -i *.deb 8) Compilar módulo do kernel sudo m-a prepare,update sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel sudo depmod 9) Editar /etc/X11/xorg.conf para: Section Device (...) Driverfglrx (...) EndSection e Section Extensions OptionComposite1 EndSection 10) Reiniciar o computador ou sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (e, então no modo texto) sudo rmmod fglrx sudo modprobe fglrx sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start 11) Para permitir o uso do compiz, edite /etc/xdg/compiz/compiz-manager e acrescente: WHITELIST=nvidia intel ati radeon i810 fglrx --- As mudanças no driver novo estão interessantes, mas ainda não ideais. O suporte a AiGLX ainda está um tanto precário, além de ainda existirem alguns bugs. Creio que os usuários de placas ATi só desfrutarão realmente de uma boa experiência no Linux quando existir um driver livre e maduro. Boa sorte aos que tentarem. -Antonio On 10/23/07, Antonio wrote: Como talvez muitos já saibam, a ATi lançou a tão esperada versão 8.42de seu driver proprietário. Dentre suas novidades está o suporte a AIGLX. Tentei instalar o driver novo, porém sem sucesso. Segui o procedimento de: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide Alguém obteve algum sucesso na instalação do driver e no uso de DRI? -Antonio -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy - problemas usplash e efeitos
Experimente: sudo nano /etc/usplash.conf (editar para 1024x768) sudo update-initramfs -u -k `uname -r` Funcionou comigo. -Antonio On 10/18/07, Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problemas no usplash que é carregado em uma resolução não indicada para o monitor (Samsung 540N usa 1024x768) e manda uma mensagem desagradável de aviso. Estranhamente apos o gdm tudo fica mormal e a mensagem some. Esse aviso aparece no boot e quando está semdo desligado. Como se altera a resolução do usplash? Problema com compiz: Desktop effects could not be enabled. Funcionava com Feisty. Chequei o xorg.conf e está como nos anteriores com a placa intel sendo detectada normalmente. Glxgears OK. O que poderia ser? obs: md5sum OK. []s. -- Não pratique pirataria nem pague por sistemas operacionais, use Ubuntu o sistema operacional completo, seguro e livre: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy - problemas usplash e efeitos
No Gutsy isso pode ser alterado em Sistema - Administração - Screen and Graphics [ainda não traduzido]. -Antonio On 10/25/07, Tiago Poiares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aproveitando o embalo, vocês sabem como eu mudo a resolução do GDM? o meu monitor suporta até 1600x1200 mas ele fica em 60Hz e por isso eu prefiro que ele fique em 1280x1024... No loading do sistema e no ubuntu logado ele mantem essa resolução mas no GDM ele fica em 1600x1200... é mais por uma questão de estetica... alguem saberia me dizer como eu posso alterar? On 10/24/07, MAYRON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eu fiz o apt-get do xserver-xgl no trabalho e lascou o o servidor X... mais deu pra recuperar... só pra constar :D Em 24/10/07, Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Agradeço sua atenção. No meu caso tive que instalar o xserver-xgl. Isso aconteceu com o PC desktop. Estranhamente, com o notebok, que também é tudo intel, não tive problema algum. Abraços João Carlos escreveu: Martins, eu recebi a mesma mensagem quando fui habilitar os efeitos de desktop na minha máquina, o qual foi resolvido logo após instalar o driver da minha nVidia. Espero ter ajudado ou pelo menos iluminado algum caminho.. Abraços 3D --~--~-~--~~~ JotaCê JC Suporte! http://www.jcsuporte.com --~--~-~--~~~ Tel.: (32) 9977-2017 ICQ.: 330.99.44 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~ Linux user # 430518 --~--~-~--~~~ Ubuntu user #17574 --~--~-~--~~~ Em 18/10/07, Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Problemas no usplash que é carregado em uma resolução não indicada para o monitor (Samsung 540N usa 1024x768) e manda uma mensagem desagradável de aviso. Estranhamente apos o gdm tudo fica mormal e a mensagem some. Esse aviso aparece no boot e quando está semdo desligado. Como se altera a resolução do usplash? Problema com compiz: Desktop effects could not be enabled. Funcionava com Feisty. Chequei o xorg.conf e está como nos anteriores com a placa intel sendo detectada normalmente. Glxgears OK. O que poderia ser? obs: md5sum OK. []s. -- Não pratique pirataria nem pague por sistemas operacionais, use Ubuntu o sistema operacional completo, seguro e livre: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- III EPSL: Além das Redes de Colaboração 07 a 10 de novembro de 2007 - CEFET-RN (Unidade Sede) http://rn.softwarelivre.org III Natal Java Day 17 de novembro - CEFET / RN (Unidade Sede) http://www.jeebrasil.com.br/nataljavaday -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- ||.._poiares..|| -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Gutsy - problemas usplash e efeitos
E eu achando q o gutsy ia vir com as traduções q faltavam no feisty. Ao q parece estão faltando ainda mais itens a serem traduzidos. Isso é bola fora... Antonio escreveu: No Gutsy isso pode ser alterado em Sistema - Administração - Screen and Graphics [ainda não traduzido]. -Antonio On 10/25/07, Tiago Poiares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aproveitando o embalo, vocês sabem como eu mudo a resolução do GDM? o meu monitor suporta até 1600x1200 mas ele fica em 60Hz e por isso eu prefiro que ele fique em 1280x1024... No loading do sistema e no ubuntu logado ele mantem essa resolução mas no GDM ele fica em 1600x1200... é mais por uma questão de estetica... alguem saberia me dizer como eu posso alterar? On 10/24/07, MAYRON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eu fiz o apt-get do xserver-xgl no trabalho e lascou o o servidor X... mais deu pra recuperar... só pra constar :D Em 24/10/07, Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Agradeço sua atenção. No meu caso tive que instalar o xserver-xgl. Isso aconteceu com o PC desktop. Estranhamente, com o notebok, que também é tudo intel, não tive problema algum. Abraços João Carlos escreveu: Martins, eu recebi a mesma mensagem quando fui habilitar os efeitos de desktop na minha máquina, o qual foi resolvido logo após instalar o driver da minha nVidia. Espero ter ajudado ou pelo menos iluminado algum caminho.. Abraços 3D --~--~-~--~~~ JotaCê JC Suporte! http://www.jcsuporte.com --~--~-~--~~~ Tel.: (32) 9977-2017 ICQ.: 330.99.44 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~ Linux user # 430518 --~--~-~--~~~ Ubuntu user #17574 --~--~-~--~~~ Em 18/10/07, Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Problemas no usplash que é carregado em uma resolução não indicada para o monitor (Samsung 540N usa 1024x768) e manda uma mensagem desagradável de aviso. Estranhamente apos o gdm tudo fica mormal e a mensagem some. Esse aviso aparece no boot e quando está semdo desligado. Como se altera a resolução do usplash? Problema com compiz: Desktop effects could not be enabled. Funcionava com Feisty. Chequei o xorg.conf e está como nos anteriores com a placa intel sendo detectada normalmente. Glxgears OK. O que poderia ser? obs: md5sum OK. []s. -- Não pratique pirataria nem pague por sistemas operacionais, use Ubuntu o sistema operacional completo, seguro e livre: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- III EPSL: Além das Redes de Colaboração 07 a 10 de novembro de 2007 - CEFET-RN (Unidade Sede) http://rn.softwarelivre.org III Natal Java Day 17 de novembro - CEFET / RN (Unidade Sede) http://www.jeebrasil.com.br/nataljavaday -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- ||.._poiares..|| -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] caminho do kernel para instalação do modem
eh isso ai senhoras, linux-headers instalados, pctel's instalados, builders instalados. modem detected...irc.freenode.net aqui vamos nós Em 24/10/07, :: Dirceu :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: aptoncd ? -- ___ Dirceu Luís Follmann MSN: dlfollmann [at] gmail . com http://daquidafronteira.wordpress.com http://juristantum.wordpress.com [...] Sirvam nossas façanhas de modelo a toda a Terra [...] Em 24/10/07, Luciano Cunha [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: tenho uma maquina sem acesso a internet como posso instalar o linux-headers?? Em 24/10/07, Saul Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: /usr/src/linux-headers-versão_q _vc_tá usando Em 23/10/07, Luciano Cunha [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: tentei instalalar o modem e depois de desocompactar foi pedido o caminho do kernel, qual caminho posso digitar considerando que estou instalando o 5.04, grato -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Webcam Microdia
Senhores, tenho uma webcam de marca (?) BAKPIX que pelo lsusb é reconhecida como microdia, já tentei usar o tal driver do médico frances, ele compila, sobre o modulo, mas a cam continua não funcionando, alguem ai tem o mesmo modelo ou já colocou pra funcionar no Ubuntu 7.10? -- Abracos vc = new Abracos(); --~--~-~--~~~ JotaCê JC Suporte! http://www.jcsuporte.com --~--~-~--~~~ Tel.: (32) 9977-2017 ICQ.: 330.99.44 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~ Linux user # 430518 --~--~-~--~~~ ubuntu ||| user #17574 --~--~-~--~~~ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Coisas que quase ninguém sabe sobre a Microsoft
Muito bonitinho... Bom, sem dúvida existem bons profissionais e boas idéias lá O detalhe chave é que o grupo de acionistas que controla a corporação só quer saber de encher o rabo de dinheiro, ponto final. Raphael Menezes escreveu: Cara, Muitas das ações da Microsoft são plausíveis, claro. Mas nela existe muita coisa ruim, muita falcatrua por volta disso tudo. Acho que é um assunto com muito pano pra manga, cujo estou cansado já de discutir. Sobre o codigo fonte exibido, deve ser parte do codigo e mesmo assim algumas partes não de tanta suma importância. Nos nao sabemos como todo essas ações sao feitas, tampouco sua total veracidade. Se eu fosse ficar aqui pra discutir sobre a malandragem da microsoft de monopólios, compra de empresas para falir e a idiotisse com o que vem fazendo com os sitemas operacionais, terminaria ano que vem. Abraços On 10/25/07, Duda Nogueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apesar dos pesares, ótimo post :) http://www.meiobit.com/artigo/coisas_que_quase_ningu_m_sabe_sobre_microsoft from Meio Bit - Notícias, Internet, Informática, Tecnologia http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fmeiobit.com%2Findex.xml by Dennes A Microsoft, já há muitos anos, é vista por muitos como a verdadeira encarnação do demo. O anti-cristo em pessoa (jurídica). Porém a grande maioria das pessoas que defendem esta visão apocaliptica não conhecem alguns detalhes a respeito do que a empresa oferece, do que ela faz e de seus produtos. Então a questão é: se você deseja falar bem ou mal, não interessa, mas faça isso sabendo o que está falando. Portanto, segue abaixo uma pequena lista. Se descobrir que desconhece a grande maioria dos fatos, é bom repensar um bom número de conceitos. Vamos ao estilo Você Sabia ?: *1) Que governos tem direito de acesso ao código fonte do Windows para garantir sua soberania nacional? * Veja em http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/default.mspx e http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/GSP.mspx *2) Que empresas particulares podem ter o direito de acesso ao código fonte do windows na forma de consulta para o desenvolvimento de drivers e outros recursos que necessitem de alta integração com o sistema, em alguns casos de forma paga, em outros de forma totalmente gratuita?* Veja em http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/Enterprise.mspxe http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/OEM.mspx e http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/SystemsIntegrator.mspx *3) Que o código fonte do kernel do Windows não apenas está disponível para uso em sala de aula, mas foi organizado de forma didática para a realização de experiências?* Veja em http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/WindowsAcademic.mspx *4) Que o Windows CE não é apenas um Windows para dispositivos móveis, mas possui uma ferramenta (Platform Builder) que permite que se monte um novo sistema operacional a partir da escolha de milhares de peças que formam o Windows CE, desta forma criando sistemas operacionais específicos para determinados hardwares (sistemas embarcados) sem o excesso de funcionalidades? Além disso o custo de licença da unidade do sistema operacional é adaptado a partir das partes escolhidas pelo desenvolvedor, podendo ficar um valor a partir de aproximadamente US$ 10,00 a unidade?* Veja em http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/embedded/aa731407.aspx e http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa448756.aspx *5) Que as urnas eletrônicas brasileiras foram criadas com base no Windows CE embarcado conforme a tecnologia citada no item 4?* http://www.unisys.com.br/news/imprensa/release99.htm A Unisys e a Diebold Procomp, fabricantes de urnas eletrônicas de São Paulo, tinham planos de exportar a tecnologia para os países vizinhos. Em vez de emprestar algumas poucas urnas para fazer propaganda, o governo Lula decidiu bancar as eleições alheias. Só para o Paraguai foram emprestadas 15.000 urnas para as eleições de 2005 e 2006. A empresa Vesta, de São Paulo, deixou de vender softwares de compras públicas on-line para a Bolívia porque Lula, em seu primeiro ano no poder, resolveu oferecer ao país, de graça, um programa com a mesma função. O governo federal não só reinventou a roda com o software livre à custa do contribuinte, como prejudicou a competição no mercado de tecnologia, diz Paula Santos, sócia da Vesta. É a política do software livre contra o livre mercado. http://veja.abril.uol.com.br/170506/p_068.html O governo brasileiro e os partidos políticos brasileiros, por exemplo, realizaram auditoria do código de 50 mil urnas eletrônicas baseadas no sistema operacional Windows CE Emilio Umeoka, Presidente da Microsoft Brasil http://www.camara-e.net/newsletter/2004/newsletter02marco04.html A desinformação me dá nojo, especialmente quando encontro, tendo como fonte uma universidade, um artigo como este :
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Coisas que quase ninguém sabe sobre a Microsoft
On 10/26/07, Duda Nogueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *15) Que as licenças de código fonte aberto da Microsoft permitem que você manipule o código fonte à vontade, gerando novos produtos de código fonte fechado e proprietário se assim desejar, ao contrário da licença GPL que foi aplicada, por exemplo, nos drivers do banco MySQL, obrigando a todos que usam MySQL a pagar pela licença ou abrir o fonte de suas aplicações na internet?* Tenho uma dúvida aqui. Isso é verdade? Se eu usar um driver (módulo, lib, etc) licenciado sob GPL preciso abrir minha aplicação inteira por causa disso? Sempre pensei que precisaria distribuir o código fonte das MODIFICAÇÕES que eu tenha feito no driver (módulo, lib, etc) e não da aplicação inteira. O que é o correto? -- Vinícius. personal site - http://vinicius.oitobits.net gaming blog - http://www.oitobits.net -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Root
Salve!!! Amigo não recomendo essa pratica, pois você perde muito da segurança que o linux lhe oferece... Abraço Att. Weslei Mendes Linux User #197149 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Liberdade, Igualdade e Fraternidade! Em 26-10-2007 10:05, Ricardo Duarte escreveu: Instalei meu ubuntu criando um usuário. Só eu uso meu linux. Tenho como fazer com que esse usuário seja tratado como root para que eu não tenha que ficar pondo a senha de root a todo momento? Atenciosamente, Ricardo Augusto -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com ACER 5100-3010
é uma cam usb, quanto a programa pra gravação de audio e vídeo não procurei nenhum ainda... se encontrar um que satisfaça da um toque... pro fotos tem o cheese, parece bom Em 25/10/07, Jonatas M. Victor[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Uhum, realmente o leitor de cartão funcionou direto mesmo, mas a webcam teria algum programa para gravação de video e audio além do amsn? Ela é reconhecida com uma webcam USB certo? On 10/25/07, Jorge Fernandes Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em 25/10/07, Jonatas M. Victor[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: a cam funciona com o amsn, se precisar configurar: abre o amsn, clica nas abas contapreferenciasoutroseditar opções de audio e vídeo. o cartão, é só colocar que o leitor acorda experimenta aí... Olá, e como fez para funcionar? Tem algum link com Tutorial para dar uma lida? On 10/25/07, Jorge Fernandes Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opa... tenho um acer 5100, e vi os mesmos probl.. na inicialização, o wireless não experimentei ainda, webcam funciona tranquilo, da sua lista... foi a única coisa que eu experimentei... no caso, agora mesmo. o modem tambem não experimentei.. e acabei de experimentar o cartão e ta fumegando legal... Em 25/10/07, Jonatas M. Victor[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Srs, Queria saber se alguem usa esse note com Ubuntu, estou usando e vi algumas incompatibilidades como uns erros de PCI ao boot e o wireless que eu vi que pelo modelo somente com o ndis para funcionar. Alguem já usou a webcam, modem e leitor de cartões desse modelo no Ubuntu? Obrigado. -- .:Abraços:. Jonatas M. Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 138431258 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSD User: BSD051240 Linux User: #278922 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Paz e Bem! Jorge Fernandes JUNIOR Curitiba - Pr -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- .:Abraços:. Jonatas M. Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 138431258 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSD User: BSD051240 Linux User: #278922 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Paz e Bem! Jorge Fernandes JUNIOR Curitiba - Pr -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- .:Abraços:. Jonatas M. Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 138431258 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BSD User: BSD051240 Linux User: #278922 -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Paz e Bem! Jorge Fernandes JUNIOR Curitiba - Pr -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Root
Rapidamente vc acostuma a digitar a senha, e tb nao eh toda hora q vc faz alterações no sistema Talvez a parte + chata eh qd vc quer alterar arquivos ou pastas q soh o root tem privilegio, onde normalmente usamos a linha d comando. Nesse caso instala o pacote *nautilus-gksu*, q t permite abrir uma pasta ou arquivo como root ao clicar com o botao direito nele, é bem prático Ricardo Duarte escreveu: Instalei meu ubuntu criando um usuário. Só eu uso meu linux. Tenho como fazer com que esse usuário seja tratado como root para que eu não tenha que ficar pondo a senha de root a todo momento? Atenciosamente, Ricardo Augusto -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Notebook Dell D531
Olha, pelo que sei do hardware do D531, ele pode ser um tanto problemático. Por três fatores (talvez dois, na verdade): Placa de rede wireless, som e placa de vídeo. A placa de rede, ao que sei, é da própria Dell. Não sei quanto ao chip, mas pela razão da aproximação da Dell com o Ubuntu, talvez esse problema tenha sido sanado. A coisa só pode ficar mais ou menos preta se envolver o nome Broadcom. A placa de som costumava ser muito ácida com o ALSA nas versões do Feisty, mas o Gutsy já conta com versões superiores. Assim, creio que tudo dará certo com ela. A placa de vídeo é ATI. A curto prazo, ter uma placa ATI pode ser um grande mico, visto que os drivers disponibilizados pela AMD são um verdadeiro fiasco. Entretanto, a AMD está lançando as especificações de suas placas ao público. A longo prazo isso poderá ser muito bom, visto que muito provavelmente resultará em drivers livres de grande qualidade. Por último, mas não listado, está o processador de 64 bits. Se você usá-lo com o Ubuntu 64 bits pode ser um problemão para algumas coisas básicas. Mas, fora isso, roda tranquilo. -Antonio On 10/26/07, Diogo Semann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pessoal, Estamos avaliando a compra de 3 Notebook Dell D531, mas estou em duvida com este modelo pois analisando os emails da lista verifiquei que o mesmo possui varios problemas de compatibilidade com o Ubuntu 7.04, alguem que possua este modelo e estaja utilizando o 7.10, poderia me informar como está a compatibilidade agora? -- Diogo Rodrigo Semann Linux User: 315917 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SKYPE: drsemann GTALK: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Webcam Microdia
Tente testar com o ekiga e acessa-la usando v4l2. As vezes já esta funcionando, mas a aplicação por ser apenas compativel com v4l nao consegue acessa-la. Em 26/10/07, João Carlos[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Senhores, tenho uma webcam de marca (?) BAKPIX que pelo lsusb é reconhecida como microdia, já tentei usar o tal driver do médico frances, ele compila, sobre o modulo, mas a cam continua não funcionando, alguem ai tem o mesmo modelo ou já colocou pra funcionar no Ubuntu 7.10? -- Abracos vc = new Abracos(); --~--~-~--~~~ JotaCê JC Suporte! http://www.jcsuporte.com --~--~-~--~~~ Tel.: (32) 9977-2017 ICQ.: 330.99.44 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~ Linux user # 430518 --~--~-~--~~~ ubuntu ||| user #17574 --~--~-~--~~~ -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Coisas que quase ninguém sabe sobre a Microsoft
poutz... por favor... nao caiam em discussao contra o meiobit... eles criam esses posts xiitas pra da ibope no site deles... uns tempos atrás, a fabiane lima criou postou um erro de dependencia no fedora, pq ela nao habilito o livna... acontece que ela sabia disso... porém, preferiu acabar com o fedora, o software livre tudo mais, por que? ibope =D e qto esse post ai... tem mta meia verdade... por exemplo, a microsft disponibiliza sim software pelo Academic Alliance... o q foi deturpado, é que as faculdades tem limite pra isso... e diga-se de passagem, um limite BEM baixo... a minha faculdade tem 10 mil alunos... a gnt recebeu 200 licenças do windows vista business... o projeto Aluno Monitor, é coisa da secretaria da educação do estado de Sao Paulo.. digo isso, pq fui por um ano e meio Aluno Monitor... e eh claro, a questao do código fonte todo mundo ja sabe... se nao me engano em alguns paises da europa ela foi OBRIGADA a abrir o fonte... e peloMorDeDeus! se a microsoft abrisse o código pra todos os fabricantes como a matéria ai fala, nao teriamos drivers de impressora tao ruins da hp... ou de inumeros outros fabricantes. no site parece tudo muito lindo, até o windows é lindo... mas na pratica, uma BSOD te mostra a verdadeira cara da MS Abs! Gabriel PS: Falto um [OFF] na frente... aqui é lista sobre o Ubuntu, e não sobre microsoft ou sensacionalismo Duda ;D On 10/25/07, Duda Nogueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apesar dos pesares, ótimo post :) http://www.meiobit.com/artigo/coisas_que_quase_ningu_m_sabe_sobre_microsoft from Meio Bit - Notícias, Internet, Informática, Tecnologia http://www.google.com/reader/view/feed/http%3A%2F%2Fmeiobit.com%2Findex.xml by Dennes A Microsoft, já há muitos anos, é vista por muitos como a verdadeira encarnação do demo. O anti-cristo em pessoa (jurídica). Porém a grande maioria das pessoas que defendem esta visão apocaliptica não conhecem alguns detalhes a respeito do que a empresa oferece, do que ela faz e de seus produtos. Então a questão é: se você deseja falar bem ou mal, não interessa, mas faça isso sabendo o que está falando. Portanto, segue abaixo uma pequena lista. Se descobrir que desconhece a grande maioria dos fatos, é bom repensar um bom número de conceitos. Vamos ao estilo Você Sabia ?: *1) Que governos tem direito de acesso ao código fonte do Windows para garantir sua soberania nacional? * Veja em http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/default.mspx e http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/GSP.mspx *2) Que empresas particulares podem ter o direito de acesso ao código fonte do windows na forma de consulta para o desenvolvimento de drivers e outros recursos que necessitem de alta integração com o sistema, em alguns casos de forma paga, em outros de forma totalmente gratuita?* Veja em http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/Enterprise.mspxe http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/OEM.mspx e http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/SystemsIntegrator.mspx *3) Que o código fonte do kernel do Windows não apenas está disponível para uso em sala de aula, mas foi organizado de forma didática para a realização de experiências?* Veja em http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sharedsource/Licensing/WindowsAcademic.mspx *4) Que o Windows CE não é apenas um Windows para dispositivos móveis, mas possui uma ferramenta (Platform Builder) que permite que se monte um novo sistema operacional a partir da escolha de milhares de peças que formam o Windows CE, desta forma criando sistemas operacionais específicos para determinados hardwares (sistemas embarcados) sem o excesso de funcionalidades? Além disso o custo de licença da unidade do sistema operacional é adaptado a partir das partes escolhidas pelo desenvolvedor, podendo ficar um valor a partir de aproximadamente US$ 10,00 a unidade?* Veja em http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/embedded/aa731407.aspx e http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa448756.aspx *5) Que as urnas eletrônicas brasileiras foram criadas com base no Windows CE embarcado conforme a tecnologia citada no item 4?* http://www.unisys.com.br/news/imprensa/release99.htm A Unisys e a Diebold Procomp, fabricantes de urnas eletrônicas de São Paulo, tinham planos de exportar a tecnologia para os países vizinhos. Em vez de emprestar algumas poucas urnas para fazer propaganda, o governo Lula decidiu bancar as eleições alheias. Só para o Paraguai foram emprestadas 15.000 urnas para as eleições de 2005 e 2006. A empresa Vesta, de São Paulo, deixou de vender softwares de compras públicas on-line para a Bolívia porque Lula, em seu primeiro ano no poder, resolveu oferecer ao país, de graça, um programa com a mesma função. O governo federal não só reinventou a roda com o software livre à custa do contribuinte, como prejudicou a competição no mercado de tecnologia, diz Paula Santos, sócia da Vesta. É a
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Root
A função do root não é apenas proteger o sistema do usuário, mas também de qualquer outra coisa, como vírus ou programas indesejados. Igualmente, o root também serve para proteger funções essenciais do seu computador, como a memória de programas mais sensíveis e dispositivos. Em suma, é pela falta disso (além de outras coisas, claro) que o Windows é o que é. Usar o root como usuário comum é mais que loucura. O tempo que você gasta digitando senhas é menos que o tempo que você poupará depois, eventualmente tendo que reinstalar o sistema e sanando problemas que poderão advir dessa prática. -Antonio On 10/26/07, Ricardo Duarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instalei meu ubuntu criando um usuário. Só eu uso meu linux. Tenho como fazer com que esse usuário seja tratado como root para que eu não tenha que ficar pondo a senha de root a todo momento? Atenciosamente, Ricardo Augusto -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Notebook Dell D531
Pessoal, Estamos avaliando a compra de 3 Notebook Dell D531, mas estou em duvida com este modelo pois analisando os emails da lista verifiquei que o mesmo possui varios problemas de compatibilidade com o Ubuntu 7.04, alguem que possua este modelo e estaja utilizando o 7.10, poderia me informar como está a compatibilidade agora? -- Diogo Rodrigo Semann Linux User: 315917 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SKYPE: drsemann GTALK: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Root
Instalei meu ubuntu criando um usuário. Só eu uso meu linux. Tenho como fazer com que esse usuário seja tratado como root para que eu não tenha que ficar pondo a senha de root a todo momento? Atenciosamente, Ricardo Augusto -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Coisas que quase ninguém sabe sobre a Microsoft
Bem resumido: Se a tua biblioteca for GPL, seu código precisa ser todo aberto. Se tua biblioteca for LGPL, não precisa... Um exemplo disso é o QT, que é GPL. Se você quiser desenvolver aplicação de código fonte fechado com ele, você precisa duma licença diferente p/ isso. Que é paga. []'s Danilo Danilo Cesar Lemes de Paula UFPR - Ciência da Computação http://www.danilocesar.com Vinícius de Figueiredo wrote: On 10/26/07, Duda Nogueira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *15) Que as licenças de código fonte aberto da Microsoft permitem que você manipule o código fonte à vontade, gerando novos produtos de código fonte fechado e proprietário se assim desejar, ao contrário da licença GPL que foi aplicada, por exemplo, nos drivers do banco MySQL, obrigando a todos que usam MySQL a pagar pela licença ou abrir o fonte de suas aplicações na internet?* Tenho uma dúvida aqui. Isso é verdade? Se eu usar um driver (módulo, lib, etc) licenciado sob GPL preciso abrir minha aplicação inteira por causa disso? Sempre pensei que precisaria distribuir o código fonte das MODIFICAÇÕES que eu tenha feito no driver (módulo, lib, etc) e não da aplicação inteira. O que é o correto? -- Interessado em aprender mais sobre o Ubuntu em português? http://wiki.ubuntu-br.org/ComeceAqui - ubuntu-br mailing list ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ATi fglrx 8.42.3
Exatamente! Parece que não importa a versão do driver, ATI sempre vai ser lixo no Linux. Espero que eles não parem e lancem mais versões do driver nos próximos meses. Você falou que outras pessoas reportaram estes problemas, mas eu pesquisei tanto na net e só vejo o povo elogiando... ¬¬ Aí fico num dilema: fico com este driver e encaro os novos problemas (baixo desempenho em algumas aplicações usando o compiz, jogos do cedega lentos, mesmo sendo em 2d, mplayer fica com o vídeo piscando, exceto quando exibido em tela cheia) ou volto pra versão antiga do driver, usando o xserver-xgl, não parecia ter problemas de desempenho em relação ao compiz, mas apresentava outros problemas (jogos do cedega nem chegam a abrir, alguns vídeos no VLC ficam com cores erradas e a imagem no mplayer fica muito deformada) A sim, você chegou a rodar o driver sem o compiz ativado? fica bem rápido, mas várias aplicações bugam. por exemplo, quando você arrasta o ponteiro na area de trabalho, a area de seleção não fica translucida como deveria. e várias aplicações ficam com áreas cinzas, ocultando botões e outras áreas da interface, como por exemplo o synaptics. Em 26/10/07, Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Marcus, Experimentei os mesmo problemas. Assim como também, pelo que percebi, boa parte dos usuários que testaram. Sobre a performance quanto ao firefox e ao compiz, isso parece ser do próprio driver, que ainda não está tão maduro em matéria de AiGLX. Já sobre os vídeos, parece ter relação com otimizações recentes do driver, que pediriam inclusive uma outra configuração no X. Ainda estou a averiguar isso, entretanto. Tais mudanças permitem, por exemplo, o correto funcionamento do gstreamer, que agora não mais exibe os filmes com imagem azulada, como antes. -Antonio On 10/24/07, Marcus VBP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rapaz, eu instalei o driver novo, ele funcionou. to com o compiz ativado e tudo, sem o xserver-xgl... os jogos do cedega funcionaram (antes, nenhum abria), apesar de que um deles ficou lento. Só que eu tenho notado uma certa lentidão, eu to achando o sistema mais lento pra responder graficamente... a rolagem do firefox tá devagar. quando eu faço algum uso do compiz, como rodar o cubo ou mover as janelas rapidamente, noto uma linha diagonal que quebra a imagem. é difícil de explicar. alguém mais teve este problema e/ou sabe como resolver? minha placa de vídeo: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series Em 24/10/07, Khristian [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Não, o tutorial dessa página é para versões anteriores do driver. O novo não usa XGL e tem a extensão composite habilitada. E já é a segunda vez que eu digo a mesma coisa hoje. Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Eduardo Matias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] ATi fglrx 8.42.3 To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Basicamente é o que está escrito nesta url : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Enable_.22restricted.22_Repository Antonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consegui fazê-lo funcionar, depois de muito penar. O problema era um pequeno conflito que os pacotes davam com a versão já instalada. Descrevo aqui o procedimento que utilizei: 1) Remover XGL sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl 2) Remover driver anterior (se presente) sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx 3) Deletar .debs de eventuais instalações antigas sudo rm -f /usr/src/fglrx-kernel*.deb 4) Colocar driver dos repositórios na lista negra sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common e alterar (por exemplo) DISABLED_MODULES= para DISABLED_MODULES=fglrx 5) Criar uma nova pasta e copiar o programa de instalação mkdir ~/ati cd ~/ati wget http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run 6) Instalar pacotes necessários sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic 7) Criar .debs ./ati-driver-installer-8.42.3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy 8) Instalar pacotes sudo dpkg -i *.deb (e, novamente) sudo apt-get -f install ou sudo dpkg -i *.deb 8) Compilar módulo do kernel sudo m-a prepare,update sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel sudo depmod 9) Editar /etc/X11/xorg.conf para: Section Device (...) Driverfglrx (...) EndSection e Section Extensions OptionComposite1 EndSection 10) Reiniciar o computador ou sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (e, então no modo texto) sudo rmmod fglrx sudo
