Re: [ubuntu-marketing] marketing ubuntu in Nigeria
The most effective way to reach out to people is to include other users of Free SOftware and work together in a community model. That way you can gain synergies from each other and eventually commercial backing will come around. The Ubuntu community gets a lot of help from Canonical as marketing material (CDs, packs for events/conferences), but no direct comercial founding is available AFAIK. It seems that you are organizing the Local Community which is a good first step: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NigeriaTeam There seems to be a LUG of some sort. Would be worth to check out this: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ng_linux/ I would recommend getting up your LoCo team infrastructure by following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto General question about LoCo teams can be directed to the LoCo team contact list: loco-conta...@lists.ubuntu.com A resource with some Ubuntu Material can be found here: http://spread.ubuntu.ec Good luck with your work in Nigeria! best regards, Ruben R. https://launchpad.net/~huayra On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Adewunmi Adebolatan aaadewu...@yahoo.com wrote: Nigeria is an emerging Market with a lot of potentials. I have started to market the Operating System here in Nigeria. I will be needing some financial assistance to enable me reach a wider audience. Is there any help I can get here? Adebolatan Adewunmi; B.sc,CCNP,MCP www.opensourcenet.com.ng -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] SpreadUbuntu/MarketingTeam Meeting - Saturday 29th of July - 21:00 UTC in #ubuntu-marketing @ freeNode
Hello everyone, The first coming Saturday 29th of July at 21UTC we plan to hold a meeting in #ubuntu-marketing to talk and adjust our work around the SpreadUbuntu Project. Our focus this time will be in the DIY (Do-It-Yourself) repository with marketing and artwork material for the whole Ubuntu community. Any other SU related questions will be adressed as well. We, the Spread Ubuntu team, have been working hard to consolidate all the previous work done by others and try to find a path for the future of the project. If you love Ubuntu and would like to help us build a site to spread it please join us: * Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/~spreadubuntu * UbuntuWiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu We need *a lot of help* in understanding bzr and launchpad in general, so if you are good at this you may give us a hand too :-) The project status is as follows: * Previous DIY and SU projects in launchpad are assigned to us (the SU team) now * We have a playground webserver by Houbsi to work with drupal and we have some mockups for the site and logo as well * We have started using LaunchPad (LP) to track down task, blueprints ang getting to know bzr * blueprint and the bazaar branch for the drupal template * Launchpad will have the elements (using bzr as our DVCS) so we can track different versions and keep high quality versions of the material without killing the sites bandwidth or storage space * The DIY site will have the latest copy of the elements as well as a database pointing to the original elements stored in LP (so they can be retrieved if the user wants) * LP will be used for Material translation, change requests, questions answers and material storage (through bazaar and probably a PPA) * The Leonov project will be used as a start for our SUgui (a SU desktop client for designers/users) and we will implement plug-ins for it so elements can be edited from within the app (+/- 1 years from now) See you this saturday in #ubuntu-marketing @ FreeNode Best regards, Rubén Romero https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] SpreadUbuntu/MarketingTeam Meeting - Saturday 19th of July - 21:00 UTC in #ubuntu-marketing @ freeNode
The meeting is the first coming Saturday 19th not the 29th. See you all. R. On 7/17/08, Rubén Hubuntu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, The first coming Saturday 29th of July at 21UTC we plan to hold a meeting in #ubuntu-marketing to talk and adjust our work around the SpreadUbuntu Project. Our focus this time will be in the DIY (Do-It-Yourself) repository with marketing and artwork material for the whole Ubuntu community. Any other SU related questions will be adressed as well. We, the Spread Ubuntu team, have been working hard to consolidate all the previous work done by others and try to find a path for the future of the project. If you love Ubuntu and would like to help us build a site to spread it please join us: * Launchpad - https://launchpad.net/~spreadubuntu * UbuntuWiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu We need *a lot of help* in understanding bzr and launchpad in general, so if you are good at this you may give us a hand too :-) The project status is as follows: * Previous DIY and SU projects in launchpad are assigned to us (the SU team) now * We have a playground webserver by Houbsi to work with drupal and we have some mockups for the site and logo as well * We have started using LaunchPad (LP) to track down task, blueprints ang getting to know bzr * blueprint and the bazaar branch for the drupal template * Launchpad will have the elements (using bzr as our DVCS) so we can track different versions and keep high quality versions of the material without killing the sites bandwidth or storage space * The DIY site will have the latest copy of the elements as well as a database pointing to the original elements stored in LP (so they can be retrieved if the user wants) * LP will be used for Material translation, change requests, questions answers and material storage (through bazaar and probably a PPA) * The Leonov project will be used as a start for our SUgui (a SU desktop client for designers/users) and we will implement plug-ins for it so elements can be edited from within the app (+/- 1 years from now) See you this saturday in #ubuntu-marketing @ FreeNode Best regards, Rubén Romero https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] RedRap and Ubuntu
I'm reading the guardian weekly and I'm thrilled to see the Ubuntu desktop side by side with the RepRap machine in the article's picture. It would be fun to see a note about it on UWN or something. R. -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] the road ahead !!
John, with all your respect: I'm tired of reading you nagging! Sorry but it's the truth. Do something or keep your nagging for yourself! Now for everyone in this list: Start acting beyond writing to this mailing list and saying the same old things. If you have something to propose about the direction we should take as a group start writing the agenda for the next meeting and add it there. R On 6/11/08, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:10:01 +0100 Vid.A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone !! I would love to see Ubuntu (read GNU/Linux) on oh-so-many-electronic-appliances around me but can we please focus on the road ahead and the team's yet-to-be-decided direction ! Pretty please !! We had our chance to deal with that at the meeting and we didn't. I did not join this team to chase my tail; I joined this team to do marketing and that is what I intend to do. I have no desire to sit here doing nothing but tail-chasing for another month or longer. I will leave that to others. - -- Peace! John -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIT8TksTN+hz1Fu7URAtOhAKDXwlJxHLf9pbYAgxe6my8tl9zUDQCgj7N+ /zKvwE5Z5r+Bnirl7ZvYF2M= =+j+m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Marketing material needs a home
Hi Tord Fantastisk arbeid! On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Tord Jansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm new to this list since about 12 hours so let me just give a quick introduction and then cut straight to the chase. My name is Tord Jansson, I'm 33 years old and live in a mid-sized Swedish town called Norrköping. CTO for a small software company by day, dedicated Ubuntu advocate by night (or mostly evenings, mornings and weekends to be precise). Two months ago I started a personal crusade to market Ubuntu in my local town and build up a strong local user base. I acknowledge this will take time and persistence and I hope to see some tangible results 2-3 years down the line with a local and very active Ubuntu-club. My first step was to create some adverts and posters to put on public noticeboards around town. So far I have made 5 different adverts/posters and of the first one I have now put up more than 200 copies in mostly building entrances. I expect to at least double that before the end of the summer. The rest of the posters are being saved for future activities. The posters are currently in Swedish only, but I have put them all in a zip-archive reachable from this URL if you want to take a look: http://www.savefile.com/files/1600643 They have all been made in Scribus and the source code for all except number five is reachable from this page: http://www.savefile.com/projects/808633832 Sorry about the advertisement and crap you will have to step through... Anyway, my reasons for posting this to your mailing-list are the following: 1. I believe these adverts can be useful to many more than myself once they have been translated to English. Decent marketing material for Ubuntu seems with a few exceptions to be hard to find. There is a lot of decent marketing material for Ubuntu around but it is hard to find and there is no single place where to find it. This Team is working on fixing that! 2. I will need help to translate these to English. I can make a fully understandable translation myself but the text will need to be polished afterwards so it reaches the right professional marketing level. Any volunteers? I do not have the time to do this (and it seems some people is working on that already), but I'm sending it to the Norwegian LoCo list so we can translate it and use it in Norway. Det er trøss alt lettere å oversette fra svensk til norsk ;-) Vi får se hva som skjer... 3. I need a good place to store these adverts and any future material I make. Preferably it should be a shared place where marketing material from various sources is gathered, scrutinized by a community, categorized and provided for easy download. I believe that is one of the goals with the Ubuntu-marketing team, so what are the plans and has work been started on a site like that? Is there any interim solution that is recommended? This is where you hit the spot. We are working in a project called SpreadUbuntu: See this for more information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu For the moment we can use the wiki to compile available material. 4. I want feedback on my work (although this might be hard to give until I have translated the texts). Tell me whether you agree or disagree on the way I market Ubuntu. Is it too confrontational? too careful? too much text? too little information? focusing on the wrong things? I want my adverts to reflect the spirit of the Ubuntu community while at the same time being catchy and fun. Most of all they should just do the job of informing people of Ubuntu in a honest and interesting way. All feedback is welcome. Som sagt, veldig bra og kreativt! 5. I'll be happy to discuss grass-root marketing tactics and pool resources with anyone doing the same in their local community. I understand a lot of that will happen here, right? It does already. What we lack is a propper guide to make it easy for others to get started. If your feel like sharing your experiences, please do. We could also work on that in our wiki; (if you should need help with that, just send an e-mail and I will give you a hand getting started with the wiki). Anyway, keep up the good work everyone. Ubuntu is a great distribution and I'm personally convinced that it just needs some more public exposure and mindshare to really take off. +1 Regards, Tord Jansson Norrköping, Sweden Best regards, Rubén - Hubuntu https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] SpreadUbuntu
Hi there, Imagine this: * A site you can go to where your flyers are already done and translated and all you need is to download it, add your LoCo contact info and print them. * A counter of Ubuntu downloads for all users to see and feel the pride! * A simple way of uploading the posters you just made (aren't they great?) and want to share with the rest of us * An easy way to find other people from where you live using or working with Ubuntu and exchange ideas, cooperate on projects or just take a cofee break with * A site to find those beatiful Ubuntu buttons and banners for your site * A one-site-stop for new (and old ;) users who want to share the Ubuntu love with others * Get access to every single Ubuntu related site and resource in a graciously organized way (Fridge, UWN, FullCircle) * A lot more... SpreadUbuntu is just a good idea! (tm) So... I have drafted a few (very few) thoughts about what we need for SU to get started and going. We should do a lot of thinking before acting here, but let's not stop acting for that. I set up a page on the wiki to analyze what is needed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu Keep in mind that it is just a draft and it needs *lots* of working. But if you have ideas on how we can get that projects up, a framework for making it successful, ideas of what should be there, experience with compilating material or anything you believe is related please feel free to add your comments on this thread, the wiki or join our IRC and we'll consider them and make them part of our plan! The old site (with many of the same good ideas) is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu Give us a hand building the future of the Ubuntu Marketing experience for the whole Ubuntu community! Best regards, Rubén - Hubuntu https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] SpreadUbuntu
The link is under the main project page. The site is not up yet AFAIK the link shows ubuntu.com R On 6/10/08, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very cool!!! A link or something annoouncing this on the wiki, perhaps??? BTW, I looked at the site yesterday and I'm pretty sure it's drupal, so if we can get admin access to it, I can do some pretty neat stuff with it, inclusing a wiki, blogs. and RSS feeds. Rubén Hubuntu wrote: Hi there, Imagine this: * A site you can go to where your flyers are already done and translated and all you need is to download it, add your LoCo contact info and print them. * A counter of Ubuntu downloads for all users to see and feel the pride! * A simple way of uploading the posters you just made (aren't they great?) and want to share with the rest of us * An easy way to find other people from where you live using or working with Ubuntu and exchange ideas, cooperate on projects or just take a cofee break with * A site to find those beatiful Ubuntu buttons and banners for your site * A one-site-stop for new (and old ;) users who want to share the Ubuntu love with others * Get access to every single Ubuntu related site and resource in a graciously organized way (Fridge, UWN, FullCircle) * A lot more... SpreadUbuntu is just a good idea! (tm) So... I have drafted a few (very few) thoughts about what we need for SU to get started and going. We should do a lot of thinking before acting here, but let's not stop acting for that. I set up a page on the wiki to analyze what is needed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu Keep in mind that it is just a draft and it needs *lots* of working. But if you have ideas on how we can get that projects up, a framework for making it successful, ideas of what should be there, experience with compilating material or anything you believe is related please feel free to add your comments on this thread, the wiki or join our IRC and we'll consider them and make them part of our plan! The old site (with many of the same good ideas) is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu Give us a hand building the future of the Ubuntu Marketing experience for the whole Ubuntu community! Best regards, Rubén - Hubuntu https://launchpad.net/~huayra https://launchpad.net/%7Ehuayra -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction,
True, keep religion out of the analogy equation. FLOSS and specially the ubuntu community is far from being a totalitarian, Top-down movement. In this community we have outlined a specific code of conduct for person with responsabilities within the group. Summarized: * lead by example * do the dirty job * include everyone * be considerate * the CoC applies to you møre Our progress is as much and only as much as the activity level we generate ourselves. The more activity the more new (and old) people participates. Let's get working! R On 6/9/08, Pierre Vorhagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to add some important details to my previously explained point. We now have the heart but we need our brain? Since when do community projects need to determine a specific brain? The brain is all the brains, that come to consensus on the mailing list. When I talk about the necessity of a core group, I have the feeling that we do not exactly talk of the same thing... If I get this right, you want to elect and name specific people? Open Source projects do not work that way, it sets itself naturally... This makes me think about a Google TechTalk I watched some time ago... In healthy projects, certain members will naturally fall into the role of watching that we keep on walking in the same direction, and that things move on... Furthermore, I am rather surprised when I read your lack of trust in this way of functioning... In open source communities, direction is set by all the people, following their degree of involvement, the time they already participate and the respect the community has for the person. It is not a chosen elite, even if it is usually the same people that end up writing the general will down on paper... With all due respect, I find the questioning of the fundamental way that thousands of FOSS projects function not necessary. Yes, there _needs_ to be a strong central group, but surely not an elected one... we discussed a lot on IRC, we are waiting for Onno to report it on the Wiki (no stress of course, didn't want to say that at all ;-) and let members that were not on IRC comment it, to see how we go along. Then we will move on. That is also why we are using email. IRC is good, all direct talk systems are good and sometimes necessary, but only the mailing list lets us set up a real communitary project in my opinion. And as far as I'm concerned, I don't think that the Church functions like FOSS projects at all... Greetings, Pierre Vorhagen, pep. John Botscharow a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Onno Benschop wrote: So it would be wrong to suggest that I have little or no experience with Windows - far from it. Well, I was basing my comments on what you said. Obviously that interpretation was wrong and I apologize. Don't get me wrong, I'm not insulted in any way by your comment, just that when I make a point about something, it's with a long background in this industry with the experience of being a both a radio broadcaster and producer, an IT help-desk operator and team leader, a software developer, an IT trainer and a web-developer. I started playing with databases in the dBase II era and wrote sales management systems back in the days of the Summer Edition of Clipper (for those with a sense of nostalgia :) My own experience goes back to 1983 when I went to work for a large civic organization in Chicago as the administrative assistant for a program that coordinated corporate volunteers and material donations to small grass roots organizations. I have used computers ever since. The point that I was trying to make is that my experience and yours are very different and that gives us a very different perspective on things. And I think my experience is closer to that of the people we need to target than yours or many others in the Ubuntu community. A very small percentage of Windows users have the level of technical expertise that you do. And that is something that, IMHO, is something that the discussions on this list seem to not take into account in any substantive manner. (That was a tad longer than I intended, but being concise has never been a strong point - I'm working on it.) I got you beat by a mile on that LOL The other point I'd like to make is that I have to disagree with your perception of progress. I've seen many meetings that descend into rabble without any decisions being made, no common ground being reached and little or no progress having been made - our 2 and a half hour marathon session achieved lots more than I dared hope for. It did achieve a lot, no argument there, but, IMHO, it did not achieve enough. I am beginning to think that our basic difference is that I feel a sense of urgency about this team that you do not. I want us to go forth and market - as you so neatly put it - but we cannot until this team has both direction and structure. - heart
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction,
Hi John, and everyone in the list... Answering between the lines. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:52 PM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be talking to LoCos like the UK LoCo about what needs to be done to get Ubuntu onto Becta's list of recommended software for schools in the UK. I'd be writing articles for various educational trade joutnals in the US touting the benefits of Edubuntu. I'd be on the phone to several very large online home schooling communities here in the US that provide curricula to home schoolers about Edubuntu. And talking to the LoCos that are located near those communities about putting together a demo for those homeschool sites. There is nothing stopping anyone from starting or doing whatever they believe is important. Around here things work that way: Get down to the wiki, e-mail other people doing the same. Organize the available resources in a per-mini-project basis. Get your work done! But I do not have that authority, No one person on this team does. And no one person on this team can do that kind of marketing campaign alone. It takes a team. A team with leadership. A team wjere everyone has a role and understands that role. Any team, whether it is a team of volunteers or a team of athletes, cannot function effectively without leadership. To think that we can do effective marketing without leadership and structure is. to repeat myself, quite naive and will result in this team accomplishing nothing but lots of conversation. True, to a certain extend. I believe people with a leading role in this community understand the need of action and dialogue combined. This, as I mentioned earlier, is best described in the: Leadership Code of Conduct: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/leadership-conduct I apologize if this offends anyone, but like I said, this situation is very frustrating. The potential of what we could do as a team - an organized team - is staggering. And, personally, I am itching to get it going. We can literally rock the world with this! :=) John, I truly believe you are a wonderful resource to this community and your insight, experience and depth in marketing generally combined with other peoples experiences as well is undoubtly part of what we need as a team, but not everything. Bare with us, please. We are all used to a methodology and workflow and try equally to adapt to everyone else's. But in the end we all scratch the itch that matters most to ourselves, the idea of this team is to see which of those itches are common and can be syncronized. That's all, we just need management... But management must be understood within the boundaries of the community and its members. I feel inspiration rather than frustration in this ubuntu-marketing evolution cycle. I believe we should stay focused and rather be positive in every single way we can, and point out constructively tyhings that are not progressing. But again... I have read this list for a long time and never saw the need to act, as I never saw real traction in the project (no offence anyone). I believe that this cycle in the projects history is going to change that. Let's make that become a reality and work out the technicalities one by one. - -- Peace! John Cheers! Rubén - Hubuntu https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Guide for release party
Forgot the Reply-all thing... -- Forwarded message -- From: Rubén Hubuntu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Guide for release party To: Simon Schneebeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Simon Schneebeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It was nice to talk to all at the IRC chat today. Being about to fall asleep makes me leave before the chat ends. According to what has been discussed and with notes I've taken earlier, I've started a very first draft (still very early alpha stage) of a guide for release party organisers. Probably it would be best to set up a wiki-page for that. Unlukily I have no idea on how to do this. I hope that there is anyone who can help with this and a lot of community members who can help completing this with your own ideas and experiences. Input is most welcome. Regards Simon It looks good. I can give you a hand with the wiki, but you need to help me with a different layout of the document (point to point) to make it more accesible and easier to understand (and, nonetheless, put in the wiki ;) So.. Remind to self: While I am at it: I have compiled some marketing material in Spanish which I need to organize Organizing an InstallFest: http://installfest.info/FLISOL2008/InstallfestOrganizacion A guide to create a localserver to aid installation of FLOSS in events: http://installfest.info/FLISOL2008/ServidorLocal An ubuntu centric guide for this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EcuadorTeam/ConferenceAppearances/FLISOL/ServidorLocal A set of presentations in Spanish: http://flisol.info/FLISOL2008/Presentaciones And more presentations here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EcuadorTeam/MaterialPOP/Presentaciones Sorry for this, but in that way the resources are visible to more people and easier to organize by others than just Simon and me ;) Cheers, R, https://launchpad.net/~huayra https://launchpad.net/%7Ehuayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] There is a lot to be done...
Instead we'd be discussing concrete actionable projects that need to be done to help people like you and the LoCos do a better job of marketing Ubuntu0 Ok. Let's start then! Please read carefully every link I have added. The way I see it we need to establish a starting point: Make[0] SpreadUbuntu[1] a reality[2] for all[3] the[4] right[5] reasons[6]. The community is crying for this or something similar to happen and has for a long[7] time[8]. If you ask me this is true for almost every single Team and LoCo [9] I have ever had anything to do with[10]. Just today I was discussing with people here in Oslo about spreading (as in marketing/selling) ubuntu and the lack of a material and guide resource and/or of proper managed campaigns makes it difficult to get started and get more people joining us in the marketing effort. In Ecuador, the same. Lack of existence of such a central marketing place with localized (as in translated) material gives people a hard time selling ubuntu to the mass public. You can, of course, go happy haunting and find a lot of material, but managing those resources in an organized manner (as in using something different than google and more like a easy access site) would make everybody's life easier and marketing (and hence accelerating the adoption of) Ubuntu and helping the global community a task easier to work with for all of us. So please, consider the REAL issues at stake here and before you answer DO something, anything. Show what you want with ACTION! Actions speak louder than words. I rather see a 5-minutes mock up and effort than more talking in circles about the same old thing: We do not agree on everything and we never will, but we can still cooperate with each other. Let's get started... Next time I write to this list I will have something. Will you? Best regards, Rubén. https://launchpad.net/~huayra [0] And yes, get inspired by the best people in FLOSS at it: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/ and creative voices between our community: http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/2674 [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/SpreadUbuntu [2] http://www.spreadubuntu.com [3] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2008-May/002211.html [4] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2008-May/002228.html [5] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2008-May/002245.html [6] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/category/17 [7] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatMarketingMeans [8] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingPlan [9] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-marketing/2008-June/003147.html [10] https://edge.launchpad.net/~huayra/+participation -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction, please]
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rubén Hubuntu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:43:14 +0200 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] [Fwd: FCN submission - your reaction, please] To: John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe the best selling point we will ever have is freedom. It's price is right, it's ethical and a technologically superior software methodology. We use ubuntu because we care about freedom! R On 6/8/08, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, I sent this from the wrong address. - Original Message Subject: FCN submission - your reaction, please Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:49:18 -0500 From: John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-marketing ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com What follows is an article - rough draft which I just wrote as a possible submission to FCM as a My Opinion piece. Since it was inspired by the marketing team meeting earlier this evening my time), I'd appreciate your opinion and comments before I submit it. Excuse any typos as I have not yet proofed it. My eyes are too tired. Time for my drops and an hour or two in a dark room. I'll cgeck back later to see if anyone comments and to see what else is going on here. - -- Peace! John - - ARTICLE TEXT --- I am writing this post because of my experiences today at my first meeting of the Ubuntu marketing team using IRC chat. One of the topics near the end of the meeting was a brief discussion of various communication technologies the team currently uses, the same technologies used by the rest of the Ubuntu community and its various sub-communities. I want to address the issue of communication from the perspective of someone who is new to Ubuntu and Linux, but not to open source software, which U have been using for almost 20 yearsm first Mozilla and then OpenOffice as well as others. I am also going to address this issue from the perspective of someone who is not a developer, just a nornal computer user - like the vast majority of people who use Windows. I also want to address this issue from the perspective of someone who has a visual disability and who wants to be an active member of the Ubuntu community, and especially the marketing team. Up until a couple of years ago, I was an online marketing consultant and writer, something I did for about fifteen years, so I think I speak with a certain amount of expertise and experience. I am also a writerm abd have been one online for almost twenty years, first writing marketing articles and more recently articles on religion and politics. I also have avery strong academic background in the social sciences, which gives me a certain level of credibility when talking about group dynamics and scoial behavior. My comments about communications within the Ubuntu community need to be understood against the background of fixing Bug #1, in other words, taking away some of Microsoft's overwhelming share of the operating system market. I joined the marketing team bvecause I an committed to doing that. To give my commitment to that bug fix some credibility, even though I have only been a member of the Ubuntu community for a little over a month, and a member of the marketing team for almost exactly a month, I have become an Ubuntero. Now, it seems to me that Ubuntu, like the other Linux communities that I have had some experience with, is comprised in a very large part of software developers of varying degrees of experience and expertise. And the primary focus of the community is in improving the product - the Ubuntu operating system. That is probably the way it should be, to a certain extent. But, no matter how good a product is, and I personally believe that Ubuntu is far superior to anything Microsoft has ever turned out, if people are intimidated by the community of users, then the average person will NOT be receptive to that product. And, to be honest with you, I have found my first month of being a member of this community very intimidating and very frustrating. To actively participate in this community, I have had to join a number of mailing lists. As someone who used Windows for 20 years and all the issues that come with using email on Windows machines, I learned to be very gun-shy about email, even with PGP signatures, although that does help. I stopped publishing my newsletter using email five years ago and switched to RSS. And I set up a number of forums for people to discuss issues within my site communities. Those are STILL the technologies I use today on my site and I love them. The people in the Windows universe who will be most receptive to switching to Ubuntu will be people like me - those who hate and fear the security vulnerabilties of Windows. But then they come here and discover that the things they learned to be most wary of, like email, are the most widely used technologies here. Arguing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Countdown Script
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:40 AM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Corey Burger wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:55 PM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think I saw something about this on a different list, can't remember wjocj pne. maybe the loco-contacts, but you might want to check and see if someone already filed a bug report and add to that report. I saw something about that filled under marketing at the brainstorm site: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8722/ Cheers, R. https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Next MarketingTeam Meeting - June 7th 2008 - 21 UTC
Good! I've updated the main wiki page for the team to show the new date and linked to a proposed agenda page. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam If anyone has something to add, please feel free to do it there. E-mail me directly if you have problems with wiki page editing and I'll do it for you. Everyone coming to the meeting should have a reading of it beforehand. Let's put a limit on entering propositions to Friday June 6th 23:59 UTC so everyone should be able to take a pick of the final proposed agenda on Saturday before the meeting. If you have ever had an interest in this team, THIS MEETING is the place you really want to be at! Put some time off this weekend and join us! R. https://launchpad.net/~huayra So as it looks, we'll have the chance to chat together this saturday, June 7 at 21h UTC. Regards Simon -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Next MarketingTeam Meeting - June 7th 2008 - 21
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:34 AM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/03/2008 04:57:21 PM, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rub=E9n_Hubuntu?= wrote: I want to apologize to Ruben for calling him Simon in my reply to his post about the agenda and to ask Ruben to please fix the alignment problem with the sub-items on the agenda. Thanks, Ruben. It's ok John. I had to make a slight change, but overall it reflects your points (I think :-) For those of you who do not know, I have some degenerative vission problems and when my eyes get tired, as they are right now, they tend to play tricks on me, which is why I make typos. Time for some eyedrops and rest. Hope you have a good rest. I have to go to sleep myself... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIReMt3oYFui6B2koRAoqdAKCo5RptbFtbKj4+AOP0xT588393JACgpgem RHhL+DV4JuYZT+GRT0YUJxg= =UvYo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Best regards, Rubén. https://launchpad.net/~huayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Fwd: Next MarketingTeam Meeting - June 7th 2008 - 21
-- Forwarded message -- From: Rubén Hubuntu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Next MarketingTeam Meeting - June 7th 2008 - 21 To: Onno Benschop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, running out the door, but has this been booked in ubuntu-meeting because then we'll get the services of mootbot which will log action points and log the meeting to a meeting file. Please, can somebody book us and add us to the fridge as well? After confirmation I will add it to the Issue 93 of UWN. Also, from the messages I'm unsure where the meeting will be held, ubuntu-meeting, or ubuntu-marketing? Personally I think it should be in ubuntu-meeting and leave the ubuntu-marketing room for day-to-day live support. +1 for #ubuntu-meeting @ irc.freenode.net All community teams (not LoCos though) use it and it works pretty well. Thanks in advance! Cheers, R. https://launchpad.net/~huayra https://launchpad.net/%7Ehuayra -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed (Mike
Yeah, let's use that poll, in that way we just see who can when... I have to say that it's not a good sign to not even be able to set up a time. The easiest thing (and what every other team in the community normally does) is just to define a date an hour and those that can come, will, and those who can't, won't. If our decision process is going to be as effective as this meeting planning, we do have a problem. ' Let's just say 20:00 UTC at Saturday the 7th and be done with it. I will come to the meeting no matter when it happens... But let's just get done with this... It's really annoying to use so much time in such a simple task R. On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Simon Schneebeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, This here may help you choose a date and time that suits best. http://doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=csunnbdekfr7c345 Regards Simon --- Simon Schneebeli 078 619 31 18 --- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed
The idea with wikis is to do collaborative work in an incremental phase. I see your point, but after hanging around for a while I found out that the best way to make impact within your community activities is to use the wiki as a cooperative tool. And yes, it means an effort in learning the syntax (and yes, I know it is nightmarish, but you will be happy you did :) So everybody needs to get involved in the general maintenance of the wiki page, and certainly a core group is going to raise to adress this issue. But let us just get a meeting arranged and we take it from there, will you all folks? Next week, say wednesday/thursday? This thread is about finding a passing date for the meeting, let us keep this in foucs. Else we are just going around in circles... R. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:48 AM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vid, The problem with your suggestion is that it assumes everyone is comfortable using the Wiki. I took a look at the meeting page, and as someone who is just learning how to use wiki code, I am reluctant to touch that page for fear of messing it up. We all seem to know how to use email :-) A suggestion: Perhaps someone on the team who actually monitors this list amd who knows wiki code could volunteer to update the team wiki pages on, say, a daily basis. Anyone want to take that on? Having an up-to-date wiki page would do much to help keep the team organized. Peace! John On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 03:02 +0100, VidA wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:23 PM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to hear from everyone re: their time zone so that we can get Folks, do add your preferences on the meetings wikipage[1], which has a schedule for prefered individual timings. After the meeting date is fixed, please mail this list with a CC to the fridge list and it will be put on the Fridge. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Meetings -- Vid || http://www.svaksha.com || -- Peace! John You do have choice on what operating system you use: http://www.ubuntu.com/ I am an Ubuntu user! My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow -- Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics Life -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed
+1 for a weekend +1 for an action agenda under the meeting +1 for a meeting, as in face to face, in the next UDS (end of the year) if we start working actively as a team R. On 5/30/08, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100% attendance at anything involving a group this size is unfeasible, really. But I know of other online groups, both inside and outside of the Ubuntu community, who hold annual meetings online. Some even do it offline in neat places like Beijing or the Riviera :-) If someone is unable to attend, they could publicly - like on this list or on the wiki - assign their voting rights to someone they know and trust - a proxy. The proxy would then have their own vote as well as the vote of the person who gave them their vote. It would be hoped that the person casting the proxy vote would vote how the absent person would have voted had they been able to attend. Again, let me reiterate what I said earlier, we need to make this an action meeting - lots of decision making - and get the discussion out of the way here before the meeting or this meeting will go on way too long and nothing will get accomplished. John B On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 18:15 +0100, VidA wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:45 PM, John Vilsack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Due to the international nature of the group, I also think a meeting is somewhat unfeasible for 100% attendance. agreed. I am about 90% done with a rough draft of a proposal to the council which covers the three main topics (focus on materials and collaboration, core-marketers, Canonical liasion) which I will post once I have something readable but certainly before the meeting. It will be nice to read that before the meeting so folks with more ideas can discuss it in the meeting. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:32 PM, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for what day of the week, I suggest either Sat. or Sun. since that +1 for a weekend. UTC 1500-1800 for weekends works well for me. Regarding the wiki, its OK to make mistakes (we all do, dont we?) and mess it up. We can always do a revert. So feel free to use it :) -- Peace! John You do have choice on what operating system you use: http://www.ubuntu.com/ I am an Ubuntu user! My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow -- Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics Life -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Organizational meeting proposed
UTC +2 Another human :) R On 5/29/08, John Botscharow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We need to hear from everyone re: their time zone so that we can get this meeting set up. I, for one, and I don't think I am alone here, that having this meeting to answer the questions on the agenda should be our first order of nusiness and should be done ASAP. Until we do this, folks, we are just spinning our wheels. I.ve only seen maybe a dozen responses statring time zones out of almost, allegedly, 400 registered users. Now I know we won't get responses from THAt many, but only half, amybe, of the people who have posted here in the last couple of weeks have responded. PLEASE respond with your time zone ASAP so this meeting can happen and we can get this team doing what it supposed to do - MARKETING!!! On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 06:48 +0800, Onno Benschop wrote: On 29/05/08 02:40, John Vilsack wrote: How do you feel about putting about proposing this to the Community Council? Is leadership what this group needs above all else? I agree that this needs to happen, but until we have figured out how we're going to do what we're talking about and how we plan to manage it, it might be a little premature. Allow me to make a proposal that works towards your suggestion. I'm in UTC+8, if all here who wish to participate could note their local time-zone, then we could all meet on IRC and have a discussion about this. I'm not sure if we'd need to book ubuntu-meeting, but I'm sure we can if that is required. I note that the normal meeting time is the fourth Tuesday of the month, but I think that we may need to at least initially increase the frequency and consistency of that meeting. I propose that we discuss some or all of the following: * role of ubuntu-marketing within Ubuntu * interaction between ubuntu-marketing and Canonical * aims for ubuntu-marketing * plan on how to achieve the aims * documentation * team leader I agree with comments made that in a group such as ours a consensus leader is required. Until such time, I am happy to chair that initial IRC meeting with the understanding that I am not equating that interim step with becoming the team leader. -- Onno Benschop Connected via Optus B3 at S31°54'06 - E115°50'39 (Yokine, WA) -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |?..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peace! John You do have choice on what operating system you use: http://www.ubuntu.com/ I am an Ubuntu user! My profile: https://launchpad.net/~jbotscharow My wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBotscharow -- Read my blog: http://hbotscharow.com John Botscharow: Reflections on Religion, Politics Life -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] Ubuntu presentations for hardy Release parties/FLISOL
Hello everyone! We are planning to update our presentation of ubuntu and its community in Ecuador. For now i am collecting what i find interesting in a presentation page. I think it is about time we have exdclusive presentations for the Server and Edubuntu (one each) geared towards highly likely adopters og the software. Now I have been looking for this, but have not been able to find much stuff in a comprehensive way. The new release highlights lots of new features (virtualization, better support for ebox, SELinux integrated, better AD integration) and many of which are on the server besides the other maravellous things we already have there. People is begging for it and the release of hardy should be that last push towards the creation/organization of these resources. Now, for the Latinamerican community, we need to translate and/or create this resources on time for use under the FLISOL so we can have these ready (translated and with the respective LoCo info) by the time the event happens (just over 2 weeks - Así que pongamonos las pilas ya!) So I propose a starting point for the general effort here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Presentations/WIP And for the FLISOL Presentations: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EcuadorTeam/MaterialPOP/Presentaciones or http://flisol.info/FLISOL2008/Presentaciones Let's get Hardy out the doors and presented as the best release to date! Thanks in advance, Rubén - Hubuntu https://launchpad.net/~hubuntu -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Introducing a community based PC vendor.
honestly Ubuntu is different because of 2 things: 1. It's community (Who ROCKS!) 2. Its aim on been viable (which means also commercially) Buntfu has both and although I may not use it, I think it is a great way to contribute to the ubuntu enviroment. Keep up your work! R. https://launchpad.net/~hubuntu On 3/13/08, Catharina Bethlehem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ronnie, I think it is a great idea and wish you all the best with it. I know how you feel; we also get sometimes negative feedback on making money from Ubuntu. But most people see it as a positive thing that pre-installed Ubuntu systems are available at the market. And as long as you go by the rules, you should not be bothered about some negative feedback. You can't make everyone happy :-) Well I thumbed up your site on Stumble Upon, so go for it.. Catharina http://www.mingos.nl [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Buntfu is a Siswati expression, a word that encompasses a lot of meanings. There is love in there, there is trust, and there are feelings. Buntfu is a word that describes being human – how you relate to your neighbor, how you relate to the person sitting next to you, how you feel for that person. We felt this name should be everyones approach when setting up a computer running GNU/Linux and selling it here. As a buyer if this idea is followed by a seller you should feel confident that you will be getting their very best work. Buntfu.com is a community based computer vendor. Our definition of that means: 1. Anyone can list their inventory of GNU/Linux based computers on our auction style store. 2. Everyones system listed is preconfigured with a complete GNU/Linux desktop or server OS. 3. Placing and fulfilling custom order systems can be achieved using the wanted area of our site. 4. Together we can provide support for and find help through our community based support forums. 5. Our advertising, popularity and success depends on all of us, our support and the systems we offer. Buntfu will always be free of charge. You do not pay any site fees or closing cost fees to buy or sell your GNU/Linux based computer. You can use and share information on our forums with or without registering to Buntfu. Our preferred GNU/Linux distribution is Ubuntu and its family, primarily for ease of use, most free support, large community, OS recognition and frequent updates. http://www.buntfu.com This email is only meant to be informative to those interested in such a service... There will not be anymore email sent about this site in a promotional manner. -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] I forgot...
Hello again... I would like to introduce myself. My name is Rubén and I have participated actively in the community since october 2005, first through the forums, later with the Norwegian team (mainly assisting with InstallFests) and last year I started the Ubuntu Ecuador LoCo Team. I have been using GNU/Linux since 1998 and ubuntu since march 2005 (Hoary beta or something along the lines with Gnoppix). I joined the marketing team in 2006 and have not really been that loud in my participation here, but rather working with CD, stickers and general Ubuntu distribution in the cold. As part of the Spanish documentation team my aim is to get the UWN (Called NSU in Spanish: http://doc.ubuntu-es.org/NSU ) up and running so that it can be an instrument for all the Spanish speaking LoCo teams (we are almost 20) in order to inform and get traction within their local communities on what Ubuntu is and its development from week to week, so that people see what's happening and get involved. I have already got lots of help from people here in the team, and I'm looking forward to hopefully be a resource for some of you too. Best regards, Rubén - Hubuntu https://launchpad.net/~hubuntu -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
