Re: Test Cases categories

2011-12-08 Thread Gema Gomez
On 08/12/11 15:06, Alex Lourie wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Proceeding with the work we started for test case rewriting, there's an
 issue I'd like to discuss here - categorising the test cases. How would
 we like it to be? What categories would you think should be created? How
 do we decided the relation of a test case to a specific category? Can
 any given test be part of more than one categories?
 
 Please share your thoughts,
 Thanks.
 
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The categorization we have at the moment is:

- Applications
- System
- Hardware
- Install
- Upgrade
- CasesMods (not sure what this even means)

There are many ways to categorize test cases:

- by functionality under test (like we are sort of doing, but not quite)

- by test type
* positive/negative
* smoke: target the system horizontally and superficially / regression:
target vertical slices of the system, in depth
* Unit testing (target an api method, or a very small
functionality)/Integration testing (target the integration of two or
more subsystems)/System testing (target the system as a whole)
* Functional (target functionality, the system behaves as it should and
fails gracefully in error situations) / Non-Functional (performance or
benchmarking, security testing, fuzzy testing, load or stress testing,
compatibility testing, MTBF testing, etc)

- by test running frequency: this test case should run
daily/weekly/fortnightly/once per milestone


And many other ways. I am deliberately introducing a lot of jargon here,
for those less familiar with the QA speech, please have a look at the
glossary or ask when in doubt, if we want to truly improve the test
cases we are writing we need to start thinking about all these things:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Glossary

Thanks,
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Re: Test Cases categories

2011-12-08 Thread Alex Lourie
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Gema Gomez
gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.comwrote:

 On 08/12/11 15:06, Alex Lourie wrote:
  Hi all
 
  Proceeding with the work we started for test case rewriting, there's an
  issue I'd like to discuss here - categorising the test cases. How would
  we like it to be? What categories would you think should be created? How
  do we decided the relation of a test case to a specific category? Can
  any given test be part of more than one categories?
 
  Please share your thoughts,
  Thanks.
 
  --
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 The categorization we have at the moment is:

 - Applications
 - System
 - Hardware
 - Install
 - Upgrade
 - CasesMods (not sure what this even means)

 There are many ways to categorize test cases:

 - by functionality under test (like we are sort of doing, but not quite)

 - by test type
* positive/negative
* smoke: target the system horizontally and superficially /
 regression:
 target vertical slices of the system, in depth
* Unit testing (target an api method, or a very small
 functionality)/Integration testing (target the integration of two or
 more subsystems)/System testing (target the system as a whole)
* Functional (target functionality, the system behaves as it should
 and
 fails gracefully in error situations) / Non-Functional (performance or
 benchmarking, security testing, fuzzy testing, load or stress testing,
 compatibility testing, MTBF testing, etc)

 - by test running frequency: this test case should run
 daily/weekly/fortnightly/once per milestone


 And many other ways. I am deliberately introducing a lot of jargon here,
 for those less familiar with the QA speech, please have a look at the
 glossary or ask when in doubt, if we want to truly improve the test
 cases we are writing we need to start thinking about all these things:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Glossary

 Thanks,
 Gema


Hi Gema
That's OK, we can handle the jargon.

I think that in our case, categories should represent our way of work. So
for community team, current categories are probably fine, but for QA
engineering they may not be well suited (you may want an additional
manual/automatic note). I don't think we should stumble on this issue for
too long, so I'd recommend to go with the following scheme, and update it
if we feel necessary. So it would go as this:

* *Applications* (for application related tests, such as testing editors,
browsers, etc).
* *System* (for testing system built ins, such as, maybe, services scripts,
global/local settings, default system configurations, etc)
* *Hardware* (for testing hardware components)
* *Install* (for test cases performed during the installation process)
* *Upgrade* (for test cases performed during the upgrade process)
** CasesMods (I have no idea what it is right now, so if anyone does please
let us know).*


I am going to use this selection on the Test Cases Rewriting document, and
if anything changes we'll update accordingly.

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Re: Test Cases Spreadsheet

2011-12-08 Thread Alex Lourie
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Alex Lourie djay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Gema Gomez 
 gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote:


 Thanks Alex, let's aim at re-writing as many as we can and after they
 are reviewed we can put them back on the wiki substituting the old ones,
 so that new test cases can be used for Alpha 2 testing.


 I second that. I recommend prioritising here, so I believe it is better to
 begin with ISO test cases, then continue to application test cases.
 Moreover, we should probably prioritise the ISO cases as well, so we
 concentrate on more important ones first.



OK, so thinking about this further, I came up with the following:

1. As I previously recommended,  work on ISO tracker test cases first, deal
with everything else later.
2. Select few representing flavours from the list on [1]
3. Rewrite mandatory test cases.
4. When 3. above is done, rewrite the run-once test cases.
5. When 4. above is done, rewrite optional test cases.
6. Repeat 3-5 for other flavours until all test cases for ISO testing are
rewritten.
7. Approve all tests. ( I recommend at least one peer review per test, just
to be on a safe side).

Feedback on this would be extremely helpful, especially I'd like to have
the consensus on the first bunch of flavours to rewrite (I guess, main
Ubuntu i386 Desktop/server, Kubuntu and Xubuntu should get there). I'd set
a first bunch to 5-7, so we see how it goes.

Thanks

[1] http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/milestones/205/builds

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Re: ISO manifest inconsistent with installed packages

2011-12-06 Thread Brendan Donegan
It won't be consistent, because you'll make some choices during 
installation that will affect which packages are actually installed. Not 
everything on the CD ends up in the installation of Ubuntu.


On 06/12/11 00:45, Aaron wrote:
I am looking at how consistent the ISO manifest is with the actually 
installed packages in Precise.  The basic steps I did are:


1. Download ISO from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ 
(download with date stamp for today)  I did a install (not live cd) in 
VirtualBox.


2. Download the manifest for the ISO (for i386 below is the path) 
(download with date stamp for today)


wget 
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.manifest


3.  Create installed package list:

dpkg -l  dpkgl.txt

4. Strip out the Name and Version columns to separate file:

awk '{print $2 , $3}' dpkgl.txt  dpkg-name-version.txt

Diff the manifest and the current installed packages (with only the 
name/version columns):


diff --ignore-space-change precise-desktop-i386.manifest 
dpkg-name-version.txt  diff2.txt


All output from my process attached.  But here is the diff2.txt (below 
and attached)


It seems like the manifest is not reflecting 100% what is installed, 
unless I am missing something?


Thoughts?

First file is the 'precise-desktop-i386.manifest' and the second file 
is the 'dpkg-name-version.txt' (which is the currently installed 
packages via dpkg).


0a1,5

 
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend 


 Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err:
 Name Version

22d26
 apt-clone0.2.1
30d33
 archdetect-deb1.88ubuntu1
58d60
 btrfs-tools0.19+20100601-3ubuntu3
64d65
 casper1.292
67d67
 cifs-utils2:5.1-1ubuntu1
86d85
 cryptsetup2:1.1.3-4ubuntu3
106a106
 dkms 2.2.0.2-1ubuntu4
108d107
 dmraid1.0.0.rc16-4.1ubuntu4
117d115
 dpkg-repack1.36
122d119
 ecryptfs-utils93-0ubuntu2
136a134
 fakeroot 1.18.1-1
143d140
 firefox-locale-de9.0~b4+build1-0ubuntu2
145,147d141
 firefox-locale-es9.0~b4+build1-0ubuntu2
 firefox-locale-pt9.0~b4+build1-0ubuntu2
 firefox-locale-zh-hans9.0~b4+build1-0ubuntu2
205d198
 gir1.2-timezonemap-1.00.2.1
253d245
 gparted0.8.1-1ubuntu4
300a293
 hunspell-en-ca 1:3.3.0-2ubuntu3
302a296
 hyphen-en-us 2.7.1-4ubuntu1
337d330
 jfsutils1.1.15-1ubuntu1
343d335
 keyutils1.5.2-2
345,346d336
 language-pack-de1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-de-base1:11.10+20111006
349,352d338
 language-pack-es1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-es-base1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-de1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-de-base1:11.10+20111006
355,368d340
 language-pack-gnome-es1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-es-base1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-pt1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-pt-base1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-xh1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-xh-base1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-zh-hans1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-gnome-zh-hans-base1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-pt1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-pt-base1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-xh1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-xh-base1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-zh-hans1:11.10+20111006
 language-pack-zh-hans-base1:11.10+20111006
466,467d437
 libdebconfclient00.157ubuntu1
 libdebian-installer40.79ubuntu1
475d444
 libdmraid1.0.0.rc161.0.0.rc16-4.1ubuntu4
486d454
 libecryptfs093-0ubuntu2
592d559
 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a1:2.24.2-1
712d678
 libnss3-1d3.12.9+ckbi-1.82-0ubuntu6
789d754
 libreadline55.2-11
798a764
 libreoffice-help-en-gb 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu1
800a767,769
 libreoffice-l10n-common 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu1
 libreoffice-l10n-en-gb 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu1
 libreoffice-l10n-en-za 1:3.4.4-0ubuntu1
864d832
 libtimezonemap10.2.1
969d936
 localechooser-data2.39ubuntu1
980d946
 lupin-casper0.50
1004a971,973
 myspell-en-au 2.1-5.3
 myspell-en-gb 1:3.3.0-2ubuntu3
 myspell-en-za 1:3.3.0-2ubuntu3
1005a975,976
 mythes-en-au 2.1-5.3
 mythes-en-us 1:3.3.0-2ubuntu3
1030a1002
 openoffice.org-common 1:3.3.0-7ubuntu5
1038a1011
 patch 2.6.1-2
1081d1053
 python-argparse1.2.1-1
1132d1103
 python-pyicu1.3-1
1157d1127
 python-xklavier0.4-2
1171d1140
 rdate1:1.2-4build1
1174d1142
 reiserfsprogs1:3.6.21-1build1
1228a1197,1199
 thunderbird-locale-en 1:9.0~b3+build1-0ubuntu2
 thunderbird-locale-en-gb 1:9.0~b3+build1-0ubuntu2
 thunderbird-locale-en-us 1:9.0~b3+build1-0ubuntu2
1248,1252d1218
 ubiquity2.9.5
 ubiquity-casper1.292
 ubiquity-frontend-gtk2.9.5
 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu52
 ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork2.9.5
1276d1241
 unionfs-fuse0.24-2.1
1308d1272
 user-setup1.39ubuntu2
1315a1280,1282
 virtualbox-guest-dkms 4.1.6-dfsg-2
 virtualbox-guest-utils 4.1.6-dfsg-2
 virtualbox-guest-x11 4.1.6-dfsg-2
1316a1284
 wbritish 7.1-1
1344d1311
 xfsprogs3.1.5+nmu1






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Re: ISO manifest inconsistent with installed packages

2011-12-06 Thread Gema Gomez
Aaron, did you choose to update during install and install third party
software? Any of those two?

Gema

On 06/12/11 08:32, Brendan Donegan wrote:
 It won't be consistent, because you'll make some choices during
 installation that will affect which packages are actually installed. Not
 everything on the CD ends up in the installation of Ubuntu.
 
 On 06/12/11 00:45, Aaron wrote:
 I am looking at how consistent the ISO manifest is with the actually
 installed packages in Precise.  The basic steps I did are:

 1. Download ISO from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
 (download with date stamp for today)  I did a install (not live cd) in
 VirtualBox.

 2. Download the manifest for the ISO (for i386 below is the path)
 (download with date stamp for today)

 wget
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.manifest

 3.  Create installed package list:

 dpkg -l  dpkgl.txt

 4. Strip out the Name and Version columns to separate file:

 awk '{print $2 , $3}' dpkgl.txt  dpkg-name-version.txt

 Diff the manifest and the current installed packages (with only the
 name/version columns):

 diff --ignore-space-change precise-desktop-i386.manifest
 dpkg-name-version.txt  diff2.txt

 All output from my process attached.  But here is the diff2.txt (below
 and attached)

 It seems like the manifest is not reflecting 100% what is installed,
 unless I am missing something?

 Thoughts?

 First file is the 'precise-desktop-i386.manifest' and the second file
 is the 'dpkg-name-version.txt' (which is the currently installed
 packages via dpkg).

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Re: QA tasks available

2011-12-06 Thread Brendan Donegan

On 05/12/11 16:24, Gema Gomez wrote:

Dear QA Team,

as promised, here it is a list of tasks that need to be done and we are
in the process of doing that you could own if you have the time:

- ISO testing tasks
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-builds-smoke-testing):

   1) Compile a list of applications that are installed by default by the
ISO installers (one for Desktop, one for Server) and propose two or
three basic test cases that could be run post install giving us basic
confidence that the ISO is good for further testing (i.e. compile a list
of post-install smoke tests that we could run with Jenkins).
- This task is not about generating code, but about thinking of what
packages of the ones installed are important and worth testing in a
daily test suite. We could split it in different tasks for different
people if we generate first a list of apps that we can use for the
generation of test cases.
I'd like to start by encouraging some debate here. As a developer of 
Ubuntu, there are certain tools that are critical such as Python itself. 
However to what extent is it worthwhile testing that Python works for 
example? I guess it can't do any harm.


One thing I would like to see tested is apt - the ability to install 
packages is critical.


Personally I think the most important thing is to test as many different 
configurations as possible (which we may already be doing), such as 
encrypted home and selecting (or not) to install non-free 
software/updates while installing.

   2) We need to fix the existing test cases in the tracker and convert
them to a better, more understandable format. Basically we need to
convert them to unambiguous and meaningful test cases. Some of them are
redundant, some of them are too long to be just one test case, some
others do not make sense anymore. This is a tidy up task that needs to
be done.
Is this to be done before putting them into Litmus? I can gladly help 
either way.


- Metrics
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-metrics):
   3) I have some tasks here that could use some help. We need to look at
the codebase of Ubuntu main and see how to instrument the code so that
we can start generating code coverage metrics. This is about compiling
the Ubuntu code with gcov and generating binaries that can be used
(still to be seen how to install them) for this end.
- This task requires code in-depth knowledge and familiarity on how
things are built and can be changed to build in a different way. We
should decide where to start instrumenting and why.
The software-center developers have a very good implementation of code 
coverage reports, so it's worth looking at that package (in the 'tests' 
directory) at least for how to do this with a Python application. This 
is the task I'd be most interested in helping with.


   4) Look into how to do test escape analysis with launchpad. TEA is an
analysis that will tell us, after Precise, if we missed some problems
that were found by someone after we did our testing and that should help
us understand whether we should be adding new test cases in those
missed areas or not.
Are we tagging bugs that 'we' found (I'm assuming the 'we' here means 
the routine testing such as smoke testing and ISO testing rather than 
regular use by end-users) in some way?


   5) Gather test cases from defects. This is about making a list of
defects that have been fixed for Oneiric and that have a set of steps to
reproduce the problem that needs to be gathered and written into a
proper test case.

Does someone already have this list? Release managers for example?


- Test Case Management System
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-test-case-management-tool)
6) Still not available, but when it is, review and give feedback
about litmus and its usability. Also help decide how to configure it to
make it more suitable for the Ubuntu community testing.

Just let us know when it's ready ;)



- QA Backlog tasks
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-backlog)
   7) Review and change the wiki to reflect the new approach to QA.


Please, bear in mind that since we don't have the test case management
tool up and running yet, we need to keep our test cases in text files or
open office documents (prefereably spreadsheets) for now. As soon as we
have chosen a tool to handle them, we will be using that.

I have added a template at the bottom of the test cases page, feel free
to use it for your newly generated test cases:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

You can also modify it to contain a link to the old test case whenever
you are improving an existing test case.


Let us know which tasks you are interested in and I will be mapping
tasks in the blueprints to people, so that we keep track of what
everyone's doing and do not duplicate work. I have numbered the tasks to
make it easier to discuss about them.

You don't need to take an entire task if you feel you 

Re: ISO manifest inconsistent with installed packages

2011-12-06 Thread Aaron
Well I'm happy to report that the installed applications from the LiveCD do
indeed match the application manifest!

Sorry about that.

A

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Aaron aa...@browncoat.us wrote:

 I did not select to install any updates or third party applications, but
 I'm going to check this again on a LiveCD and see how the differences look.

 Thanks for your time!

 Aaron


 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Lallement 
 jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On 12/06/2011 01:45 AM, Aaron wrote:

 I am looking at how consistent the ISO manifest is with the actually
 installed packages in Precise.  The basic steps I did are:

 1. Download ISO from 
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/**daily-live/current/http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
 (download with date stamp for today)  I did a install (not live cd) in
 VirtualBox.

 2. Download the manifest for the ISO (for i386 below is the path)
 (download with date stamp for today)

 wget
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/**daily-live/current/precise-**
 desktop-i386.manifesthttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.manifest

  Just to clear a confusion here, the manifest on cdimage.u.c lists the
 contents of the live filesystem, not the installed filesystem.

 Content of the live filesystem and a freshly installed system are
 different because, some packages on the Live CD are only useful to the Live
 CD and the installer, only the language (and langpacks) the user selects is
 installed, additional software can be installed (in your case virtualbox
 packages, but also flashplugin, codecs, updates, additional langpacks not
 on the CD, i386 packages due to multiarch support if you're installing on
 amd64 and need i386 libs, ...)


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Re: ISO manifest inconsistent with installed packages

2011-12-06 Thread Gema Gomez
On 06/12/11 19:21, Aaron wrote:
 Well I'm happy to report that the installed applications from the LiveCD
 do indeed match the application manifest!
 
 Sorry about that.

Nothing to be sorry about! I didn't know that either, so assumed that
the manifest was the right place to look.

So we should probably look at the packages that are installed on an
imaged installed by default, in the default language (i.e. English)
without Internet connection.

Good work, thanks for looking into this!
Gema


 
 A
 
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Aaron aa...@browncoat.us
 mailto:aa...@browncoat.us wrote:
 
 I did not select to install any updates or third party applications,
 but I'm going to check this again on a LiveCD and see how the
 differences look.
 
 Thanks for your time!
 
 Aaron
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Jean-Baptiste Lallement
 jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com mailto:jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
 On 12/06/2011 01:45 AM, Aaron wrote:
 
 I am looking at how consistent the ISO manifest is with the
 actually
 installed packages in Precise.  The basic steps I did are:
 
 1. Download ISO from
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/__daily-live/current/
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
 (download with date stamp for today)  I did a install (not
 live cd) in
 VirtualBox.
 
 2. Download the manifest for the ISO (for i386 below is the
 path)
 (download with date stamp for today)
 
 wget
 
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/__daily-live/current/precise-__desktop-i386.manifest
 
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/precise-desktop-i386.manifest
 
 Just to clear a confusion here, the manifest on cdimage.u.c
 lists the contents of the live filesystem, not the installed
 filesystem.
 
 Content of the live filesystem and a freshly installed system
 are different because, some packages on the Live CD are only
 useful to the Live CD and the installer, only the language (and
 langpacks) the user selects is installed, additional software
 can be installed (in your case virtualbox packages, but also
 flashplugin, codecs, updates, additional langpacks not on the
 CD, i386 packages due to multiarch support if you're installing
 on amd64 and need i386 libs, ...)
 
 
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Re: QA tasks available

2011-12-06 Thread Gema Gomez
After reading through all the emails I have put together a little table
that shows who is interested in what, so far only task 1 has been started.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TasksPrecise

Thanks,
Gema

On 06/12/11 09:29, Brendan Donegan wrote:
 On 05/12/11 16:24, Gema Gomez wrote:
 Dear QA Team,

 as promised, here it is a list of tasks that need to be done and we are
 in the process of doing that you could own if you have the time:

 - ISO testing tasks
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-builds-smoke-testing):


1) Compile a list of applications that are installed by default by the
 ISO installers (one for Desktop, one for Server) and propose two or
 three basic test cases that could be run post install giving us basic
 confidence that the ISO is good for further testing (i.e. compile a list
 of post-install smoke tests that we could run with Jenkins).
 - This task is not about generating code, but about thinking of what
 packages of the ones installed are important and worth testing in a
 daily test suite. We could split it in different tasks for different
 people if we generate first a list of apps that we can use for the
 generation of test cases.
 I'd like to start by encouraging some debate here. As a developer of
 Ubuntu, there are certain tools that are critical such as Python itself.
 However to what extent is it worthwhile testing that Python works for
 example? I guess it can't do any harm.
 
 One thing I would like to see tested is apt - the ability to install
 packages is critical.
 
 Personally I think the most important thing is to test as many different
 configurations as possible (which we may already be doing), such as
 encrypted home and selecting (or not) to install non-free
 software/updates while installing.
2) We need to fix the existing test cases in the tracker and convert
 them to a better, more understandable format. Basically we need to
 convert them to unambiguous and meaningful test cases. Some of them are
 redundant, some of them are too long to be just one test case, some
 others do not make sense anymore. This is a tidy up task that needs to
 be done.
 Is this to be done before putting them into Litmus? I can gladly help
 either way.

 - Metrics
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-metrics):
3) I have some tasks here that could use some help. We need to look at
 the codebase of Ubuntu main and see how to instrument the code so that
 we can start generating code coverage metrics. This is about compiling
 the Ubuntu code with gcov and generating binaries that can be used
 (still to be seen how to install them) for this end.
 - This task requires code in-depth knowledge and familiarity on how
 things are built and can be changed to build in a different way. We
 should decide where to start instrumenting and why.
 The software-center developers have a very good implementation of code
 coverage reports, so it's worth looking at that package (in the 'tests'
 directory) at least for how to do this with a Python application. This
 is the task I'd be most interested in helping with.

4) Look into how to do test escape analysis with launchpad. TEA is an
 analysis that will tell us, after Precise, if we missed some problems
 that were found by someone after we did our testing and that should help
 us understand whether we should be adding new test cases in those
 missed areas or not.
 Are we tagging bugs that 'we' found (I'm assuming the 'we' here means
 the routine testing such as smoke testing and ISO testing rather than
 regular use by end-users) in some way?

5) Gather test cases from defects. This is about making a list of
 defects that have been fixed for Oneiric and that have a set of steps to
 reproduce the problem that needs to be gathered and written into a
 proper test case.
 Does someone already have this list? Release managers for example?

 - Test Case Management System
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-test-case-management-tool)

 6) Still not available, but when it is, review and give feedback
 about litmus and its usability. Also help decide how to configure it to
 make it more suitable for the Ubuntu community testing.
 Just let us know when it's ready ;)


 - QA Backlog tasks
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-backlog)
7) Review and change the wiki to reflect the new approach to QA.


 Please, bear in mind that since we don't have the test case management
 tool up and running yet, we need to keep our test cases in text files or
 open office documents (prefereably spreadsheets) for now. As soon as we
 have chosen a tool to handle them, we will be using that.

 I have added a template at the bottom of the test cases page, feel free
 to use it for your newly generated test cases:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

 You can also modify it to contain a link to the old test case whenever
 you are improving an existing test case.


 

Re: QA tasks available

2011-12-06 Thread J
I'd be interested in helping with the test case cleanup and smoke test
brainstorming (tasks 1 and 2).

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Re: QA tasks available

2011-12-06 Thread Brian Murray
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 04:24:19PM +, Gema Gomez wrote:
 Dear QA Team,
 
 as promised, here it is a list of tasks that need to be done and we are
 in the process of doing that you could own if you have the time:
 
 - ISO testing tasks
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-builds-smoke-testing):
 
   1) Compile a list of applications that are installed by default by the
 ISO installers (one for Desktop, one for Server) and propose two or
 three basic test cases that could be run post install giving us basic
 confidence that the ISO is good for further testing (i.e. compile a list
 of post-install smoke tests that we could run with Jenkins).
   - This task is not about generating code, but about thinking of what
 packages of the ones installed are important and worth testing in a
 daily test suite. We could split it in different tasks for different
 people if we generate first a list of apps that we can use for the
 generation of test cases.
   2) We need to fix the existing test cases in the tracker and convert
 them to a better, more understandable format. Basically we need to
 convert them to unambiguous and meaningful test cases. Some of them are
 redundant, some of them are too long to be just one test case, some
 others do not make sense anymore. This is a tidy up task that needs to
 be done.
 
 - Metrics
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-metrics):
   3) I have some tasks here that could use some help. We need to look at
 the codebase of Ubuntu main and see how to instrument the code so that
 we can start generating code coverage metrics. This is about compiling
 the Ubuntu code with gcov and generating binaries that can be used
 (still to be seen how to install them) for this end.
   - This task requires code in-depth knowledge and familiarity on how
 things are built and can be changed to build in a different way. We
 should decide where to start instrumenting and why.
 
   4) Look into how to do test escape analysis with launchpad. TEA is an
 analysis that will tell us, after Precise, if we missed some problems
 that were found by someone after we did our testing and that should help
 us understand whether we should be adding new test cases in those
 missed areas or not.
 
   5) Gather test cases from defects. This is about making a list of
 defects that have been fixed for Oneiric and that have a set of steps to
 reproduce the problem that needs to be gathered and written into a
 proper test case.

Here are some Launchpad searches that should help:

Bugs with an oneiric task that are Fix Released and have been tagged
'testcase'.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+bugs?field.searchtext=orderby=-importancefield.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASEDassignee_option=anyfield.assignee=field.bug_reporter=field.bug_supervisor=field.bug_commenter=field.subscriber=field.component-empty-marker=1field.tag=testcasefield.tags_combinator=ANYfield.status_upstream-empty-marker=1field.has_cve.used=field.omit_dupes.used=field.omit_dupes=onfield.affects_me.used=field.has_no_package.used=field.has_patch.used=field.has_branches.used=field.has_branches=onfield.has_no_branches.used=field.has_no_branches=onfield.has_blueprints.used=field.has_blueprints=onfield.has_no_blueprints.used=field.has_no_blueprints=onsearch=Search

Bugs about Ubuntu that are Fix Released and tagged 'testcase' and
'oneiric'.  This one is timing out and causing an OOPs although it
would be easy to get a list of the same bugs using the Launchpad API.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=orderby=-importancefield.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASEDassignee_option=anyfield.assignee=field.bug_reporter=field.bug_supervisor=field.bug_commenter=field.subscriber=field.component-empty-marker=1field.tag=oneiric+testcasefield.tags_combinator=ALLfield.status_upstream-empty-marker=1field.has_cve.used=field.omit_dupes.used=field.omit_dupes=onfield.affects_me.used=field.has_no_package.used=field.has_patch.used=field.has_branches.used=field.has_branches=onfield.has_no_branches.used=field.has_no_branches=onfield.has_blueprints.used=field.has_blueprints=onfield.has_no_blueprints.used=field.has_no_blueprints=onsearch=Search

My bug bot automatically tags bugs with the words TEST CASE in the
description 'testcase' and has been doing so for some time now.

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QA tasks available

2011-12-05 Thread Gema Gomez
Dear QA Team,

as promised, here it is a list of tasks that need to be done and we are
in the process of doing that you could own if you have the time:

- ISO testing tasks
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-builds-smoke-testing):

  1) Compile a list of applications that are installed by default by the
ISO installers (one for Desktop, one for Server) and propose two or
three basic test cases that could be run post install giving us basic
confidence that the ISO is good for further testing (i.e. compile a list
of post-install smoke tests that we could run with Jenkins).
- This task is not about generating code, but about thinking of what
packages of the ones installed are important and worth testing in a
daily test suite. We could split it in different tasks for different
people if we generate first a list of apps that we can use for the
generation of test cases.
  2) We need to fix the existing test cases in the tracker and convert
them to a better, more understandable format. Basically we need to
convert them to unambiguous and meaningful test cases. Some of them are
redundant, some of them are too long to be just one test case, some
others do not make sense anymore. This is a tidy up task that needs to
be done.

- Metrics
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-metrics):
  3) I have some tasks here that could use some help. We need to look at
the codebase of Ubuntu main and see how to instrument the code so that
we can start generating code coverage metrics. This is about compiling
the Ubuntu code with gcov and generating binaries that can be used
(still to be seen how to install them) for this end.
- This task requires code in-depth knowledge and familiarity on how
things are built and can be changed to build in a different way. We
should decide where to start instrumenting and why.

  4) Look into how to do test escape analysis with launchpad. TEA is an
analysis that will tell us, after Precise, if we missed some problems
that were found by someone after we did our testing and that should help
us understand whether we should be adding new test cases in those
missed areas or not.

  5) Gather test cases from defects. This is about making a list of
defects that have been fixed for Oneiric and that have a set of steps to
reproduce the problem that needs to be gathered and written into a
proper test case.

- Test Case Management System
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-test-case-management-tool)
   6) Still not available, but when it is, review and give feedback
about litmus and its usability. Also help decide how to configure it to
make it more suitable for the Ubuntu community testing.


- QA Backlog tasks
(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-backlog)
  7) Review and change the wiki to reflect the new approach to QA.


Please, bear in mind that since we don't have the test case management
tool up and running yet, we need to keep our test cases in text files or
open office documents (prefereably spreadsheets) for now. As soon as we
have chosen a tool to handle them, we will be using that.

I have added a template at the bottom of the test cases page, feel free
to use it for your newly generated test cases:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

You can also modify it to contain a link to the old test case whenever
you are improving an existing test case.


Let us know which tasks you are interested in and I will be mapping
tasks in the blueprints to people, so that we keep track of what
everyone's doing and do not duplicate work. I have numbered the tasks to
make it easier to discuss about them.

You don't need to take an entire task if you feel you can only work on
two or three test cases, you just say so and we will make sure nobody
else is working on the same ones as you.

Looking forward to your answers!
Gema


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Re: QA tasks available

2011-12-05 Thread Aaron
I'd be interested in starting on ISO Testing and task 1.  I think it would
give me some good initial exposure to the overall picture--installed
applications, some testing priority and making some ISO smoke test--test
cases.  If that sounds okay?

Is there a notification for when packages with changes are submitted to the
code base? Or some other process for knowing what packages have been added
and changed? Has there been any initial discussions on testing priority?
I'm sure I can come up with an initial list and we can start from there if
not.

I'd be interested in having a clear picture of what has changed between
builds/releases and help determine what should be included in the smoke
testing, etc.

Getting a list of the packages isn't hard so I was thinking about how to
determine testing priority and making the test cases, etc.

Unless someone is already on it or if you'd like me to look at something
else instead...

Thanks!

Aaron

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Gema Gomez
gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.comwrote:

 Dear QA Team,

 as promised, here it is a list of tasks that need to be done and we are
 in the process of doing that you could own if you have the time:

 - ISO testing tasks
 (
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-builds-smoke-testing
 ):

  1) Compile a list of applications that are installed by default by the
 ISO installers (one for Desktop, one for Server) and propose two or
 three basic test cases that could be run post install giving us basic
 confidence that the ISO is good for further testing (i.e. compile a list
 of post-install smoke tests that we could run with Jenkins).
- This task is not about generating code, but about thinking of what
 packages of the ones installed are important and worth testing in a
 daily test suite. We could split it in different tasks for different
 people if we generate first a list of apps that we can use for the
 generation of test cases.
  2) We need to fix the existing test cases in the tracker and convert
 them to a better, more understandable format. Basically we need to
 convert them to unambiguous and meaningful test cases. Some of them are
 redundant, some of them are too long to be just one test case, some
 others do not make sense anymore. This is a tidy up task that needs to
 be done.

 - Metrics
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-metrics):
  3) I have some tasks here that could use some help. We need to look at
 the codebase of Ubuntu main and see how to instrument the code so that
 we can start generating code coverage metrics. This is about compiling
 the Ubuntu code with gcov and generating binaries that can be used
 (still to be seen how to install them) for this end.
- This task requires code in-depth knowledge and familiarity on how
 things are built and can be changed to build in a different way. We
 should decide where to start instrumenting and why.

  4) Look into how to do test escape analysis with launchpad. TEA is an
 analysis that will tell us, after Precise, if we missed some problems
 that were found by someone after we did our testing and that should help
 us understand whether we should be adding new test cases in those
 missed areas or not.

  5) Gather test cases from defects. This is about making a list of
 defects that have been fixed for Oneiric and that have a set of steps to
 reproduce the problem that needs to be gathered and written into a
 proper test case.

 - Test Case Management System
 (
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-test-case-management-tool
 )
   6) Still not available, but when it is, review and give feedback
 about litmus and its usability. Also help decide how to configure it to
 make it more suitable for the Ubuntu community testing.


 - QA Backlog tasks
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-backlog)
  7) Review and change the wiki to reflect the new approach to QA.


 Please, bear in mind that since we don't have the test case management
 tool up and running yet, we need to keep our test cases in text files or
 open office documents (prefereably spreadsheets) for now. As soon as we
 have chosen a tool to handle them, we will be using that.

 I have added a template at the bottom of the test cases page, feel free
 to use it for your newly generated test cases:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

 You can also modify it to contain a link to the old test case whenever
 you are improving an existing test case.


 Let us know which tasks you are interested in and I will be mapping
 tasks in the blueprints to people, so that we keep track of what
 everyone's doing and do not duplicate work. I have numbered the tasks to
 make it easier to discuss about them.

 You don't need to take an entire task if you feel you can only work on
 two or three test cases, you just say so and we will make sure nobody
 else is working on the same ones as you.

 Looking forward to your answers!
 Gema


 --
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Re: QA tasks available

2011-12-05 Thread Alex Lourie
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Gema Gomez
gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.comwrote:

 Dear QA Team,

 as promised, here it is a list of tasks that need to be done and we are
 in the process of doing that you could own if you have the time:

 - ISO testing tasks
 (
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-builds-smoke-testing
 ):

  1) Compile a list of applications that are installed by default by the
 ISO installers (one for Desktop, one for Server) and propose two or
 three basic test cases that could be run post install giving us basic
 confidence that the ISO is good for further testing (i.e. compile a list
 of post-install smoke tests that we could run with Jenkins).
- This task is not about generating code, but about thinking of what
 packages of the ones installed are important and worth testing in a
 daily test suite. We could split it in different tasks for different
 people if we generate first a list of apps that we can use for the
 generation of test cases.
  2) We need to fix the existing test cases in the tracker and convert
 them to a better, more understandable format. Basically we need to
 convert them to unambiguous and meaningful test cases. Some of them are
 redundant, some of them are too long to be just one test case, some
 others do not make sense anymore. This is a tidy up task that needs to
 be done.

 - Metrics
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-metrics):
  3) I have some tasks here that could use some help. We need to look at
 the codebase of Ubuntu main and see how to instrument the code so that
 we can start generating code coverage metrics. This is about compiling
 the Ubuntu code with gcov and generating binaries that can be used
 (still to be seen how to install them) for this end.
- This task requires code in-depth knowledge and familiarity on how
 things are built and can be changed to build in a different way. We
 should decide where to start instrumenting and why.

  4) Look into how to do test escape analysis with launchpad. TEA is an
 analysis that will tell us, after Precise, if we missed some problems
 that were found by someone after we did our testing and that should help
 us understand whether we should be adding new test cases in those
 missed areas or not.

  5) Gather test cases from defects. This is about making a list of
 defects that have been fixed for Oneiric and that have a set of steps to
 reproduce the problem that needs to be gathered and written into a
 proper test case.

 - Test Case Management System
 (
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-test-case-management-tool
 )
   6) Still not available, but when it is, review and give feedback
 about litmus and its usability. Also help decide how to configure it to
 make it more suitable for the Ubuntu community testing.


 - QA Backlog tasks
 (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-qa-backlog)
  7) Review and change the wiki to reflect the new approach to QA.


 Please, bear in mind that since we don't have the test case management
 tool up and running yet, we need to keep our test cases in text files or
 open office documents (prefereably spreadsheets) for now. As soon as we
 have chosen a tool to handle them, we will be using that.

 I have added a template at the bottom of the test cases page, feel free
 to use it for your newly generated test cases:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

 You can also modify it to contain a link to the old test case whenever
 you are improving an existing test case.


 Let us know which tasks you are interested in and I will be mapping
 tasks in the blueprints to people, so that we keep track of what
 everyone's doing and do not duplicate work. I have numbered the tasks to
 make it easier to discuss about them.

 You don't need to take an entire task if you feel you can only work on
 two or three test cases, you just say so and we will make sure nobody
 else is working on the same ones as you.

 Looking forward to your answers!
 Gema


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Hi Gema, all

I'll be interested in :

1. I'd like to participate in the discussions.
2. I really think it's important. Making concise and clear test cases would
help us tremendously to convert some of them to automatic tests and also,
maybe, bring new people.

4. I would be interested in helping here as well.

5. I may be interested, although I possible lack the knowledge. I have to
see how it evolves first.

6,7 - definitely interested in helping here.


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Precise Alpha 1 Testing Report

2011-12-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement

Hi all,

Please find enclosed the testing report for Precise Alpha 1. You can 
also read it online at:


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/PreciseAlpha1TestReport

A Big Thank You to hggdh, lbsolost, shiva-narayanaswamy, stgraber, 
bladernr, GrueMaster, charlie-tca, brendand, kidsodateless, PatrickDK, 
gilir, jamespage, oskar-kirmis, ruvolof, starslights, NightSilent, 
irenebonta, PaoloRotolo, GridCube, Tiranno, alessiogrossosgarrillo, 
ivoks, Fo5150, new.life, Letozaf_, per-inge- hallin, primes2h, NESSuno, 
irihapeti, totopalma, jmarsden and xdatap1 for testing the ISOs.


The images would not be able to go out today without your efforts!

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Title: QATeam/ReleaseReports/PreciseAlpha1TestReport - Ubuntu Wiki








Precise Alpha 1 Testing report - Dec 02, 2011
  Contents
Precise Alpha 1 Testing report - Dec 02, 2011
Summary
Test Coverage
Failures summary
Bugs Details
Details of Fixed Issues
Critical
High
Medium
Undecided
Details of Opened Issues
High
Medium
Undecided
Summary of Test Failures
Lubuntu Desktop i386 - Install (manual partitioning)
Ubuntu Desktop i386 - Install (OEM setup)
Ubuntu Server i386 - Install (default)
Upgrade Ubuntu i386 - Upgrade
Xubuntu Desktop i386 - Install (auto-resize)
Test Coverage Details by image


Summary
The
 pass rate is much higher than Oneiric Alpha 1, with 97.80% for Precise 
A1 against 89.22% for Oneiric Alpha 1, and 18 bugs found in this 
milestone against 39 for the same milestone in Oneiric. But the number 
of critical and high importance defects are close (2 critical in both 
and 9 high in Precise against 12 in Oneiric) The number of contributions is in line with Oneiric Alpha 1. 
Test Coverage
33 contributors have provided 238 results and covered 227 testcases. Image Coverage   : 79.59% (39/49) 
  Coverage broken down by peoductProduct Coverage
  Pass
  Rate

  Edubuntu
  100.00%
  100.00%

  Kubuntu
  12.96%
  77.78%

  Lubuntu
  85.71%
  91.67%

  Netboot
  100.00%
  100.00%

  Ubuntu
  83.87%
  97.10%

  Ubuntu Core
  100.00%
  100.00%

  Ubuntu Server
  90.00%
  98.18%

  Upgrade
  100.00%
  80.00%

  Xubuntu
  88.89%
  95.65%

AMD64+Mac and PowerPC untested 
Failures summary
18 bugs have been reported affecting a total of 15 test cases. 
5 Tests failed. Pass Rate: 97.80% (222/227) 
 Bug Tasks Importance Critical : 2 (2 closed) High : 9 (2 closed) Medium   : 6 (2 closed) Undecided: 6 (1 closed) 
Bugs Details

Details of Fixed Issues

Critical
LP: #893842 policykit-1 (Ubuntu)Fix ReleasedMove "admin" group to "sudo" LP: #898482 update-manager (Ubuntu) Fix ReleasedLucid to Precise upgrade fails: release upgrader fails to start 
High
LP: #893842 language-selector (Ubuntu)  Fix ReleasedMove "admin" group to "sudo" LP: #893842 policykit-desktop-privileges (Ubuntu)   Fix ReleasedMove "admin" group to "sudo" 
Medium
LP: #893842 accountsservice (Ubuntu)Fix ReleasedMove "admin" group to "sudo" LP: #893842 jockey (Ubuntu) Fix ReleasedMove "admin" group to "sudo" 
Undecided
LP: #893842 userconfig (Ubuntu) Fix ReleasedMove "admin" group to "sudo" 
Details of Opened Issues

High
LP: #898551
 update-manager (Ubuntu) Confirmed   lucid desktop i386  - 
precise upgrade failed: Resolver failed to calculate the upgrade LP: #897714 ubiquity (Ubuntu)   New oem-config-remove-gtk crashed with SystemExit in _on_failure(): 1 LP: #894768
 linux (Ubuntu)  In Progress Installation randomly fails with: 
File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/install_misc.py", line 621, in 
copy_file  targetfh.write(buf) IOError: [Errno 22] Invalid argument   LP: #871785 ubiquity (Ubuntu)   New crash on ARM at the end of install LP: #766265 ubiquity (Ubuntu)   Confirmed   Ubiquity proceeds to use free space without warning LP: #897680
 ubiquity (Ubuntu)   In Progress Precise Desktop 64Bit: 
libc6 fails to install if "install 3rd party software" is selected LP: #838200 u-boot-linaro (Ubuntu)  Confirmed   No network support on Beagle XM 
Medium
LP: #892394 unity-greeter (Ubuntu)  Triaged Greeter logo needs to be updated for 12.04 LP: #897921 grub2 (Ubuntu)  New Corrupted grub screen in Precise alpha1 LP: #837470 pcmanfm (Ubuntu)Confirmed   ISO Persistent mode : Desktop doesn't show documents and folders LP: #898127
 linux (Ubuntu)  Confirmed   system hangs and errors at 
/build/buildd/linux-3.2.0/arch/x86/kernel/apic/ipi.c:113 
default_send_IPI_mask_logical+0xdc/0xf0() 
Undecided
LP: #897623
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu)   New Touchpad stops 
working on Samsung N310 shortly after first boot of Precise Alpha1 LP: #871553 xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu)Confirmed   Oneiric Lubuntu xfce4-power-manager displays a "broken" icon in lxpanel LP: #888669 software-center (Ubuntu)Confirmed   software-center crashed 

Re: Starting once more

2011-12-01 Thread Gema Gomez
Hi Javier,

thanks for your email. Nice to see other fellow Spanish collaborator in
the list (apart from the ones I already knew :)!

Regarding the blueprints, we normally put them together before UDS and
discuss them there. For those of you who weren't there, this is the
overall strategy we presented for the coming two years. It is only very
clear for the next six months and we will be defining together the
coming cycles as we get closer and see what we have achieved:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Strategy

As per the definition of test case, that is my mistake, I should have
pointed to the exact same public page in the wiki (I will change that in
the blueprint):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

As you can see the blueprints more or less match what is explained in
the strategy, some of them have tasks that we also need to do due to the
lab requiring updates, etc. that are not necessarily there.

This cycle is all about enabling the developers and engineering teams do
their job better. Next one will be about adding more test cases
(increasing the coverage) to our test suites.

As I said, I will try to put a list of tasks together for Monday, where
people can choose the ones they like from the ones we have available and
are doing in those blueprints. Things keep coming up and we keep adding
more things to the blueprints as we go along. One thing you could do is
express your interest in one blueprint or another and we can match tasks
with people's levels of expertise or get the people with less experience
to collaborate with the more experienced ones.

We can also look into the minimal CDs testing if you want, but at the
moment we are going to focus on getting right the ISOs we have
available, before expanding into new things.

More info to come soon,
Gema

On 01/12/11 07:45, Javier Domingo wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 First of all, I want to say that I have been reading all the mails you
 have regularly sent, and I want to say I'm glad that there are going to
 happen big changes.
 
 Refering to those changes, thought I have not been quite active this
 year, I am particularly interested on minimal CD installations. I think
 they are the best way to install OS for people that already knows they
 want it, and they don't want to install it and then update it [1]. In
 this way, I would like to see those Minimal CDs into the iso tracker. I
 don't know actually why they are not there.
 
 What involves the test-case definition blueprint, I am not allowed to
 see the canonical wiki (don't know if this is actually pretended). And
 it would be nice an explanation of what blueprints, etc. are. I actually
 pretend to do more than just testing, I have no idea of how are things
 organized, which teams there are, etc.
 
 Greetings,
 
 Javier Domingo
 
 
 [1] I would like to say that I random times experienced problems when
 installing from minimal CDs. Those times were when I used my spain's (my
 country) archive copy. I don't know if there might not be any
 difference, but after selecting the archive, it gets stuck randomly.I
 would like to have more facilities at install time to know what is
 happening (any debug info or sth). Would be perfect a debugging flag at
 boot time or something. 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Hello!!

2011-12-01 Thread Kristijan
Welcome Besi!

2011/12/1 Besmir Gogu besmirg...@gmail.com

 Hello Everyone,

 My name is Besi and I am from Albania. I joined a couple of weeks ago but
 failed to introduce myself.
 I am a computer science specialist working in the mobile telecom industry.
 I would like to get involved more with the Ubuntu projects as I believe
 that you are doing an amazing work here.
 I have chosen Ubuntu as a linux distro and I believe that I can learn so
 much more by getting involved.
 I do not have a lot of experience in Ubuntu itself although I believe that
 given the chance I can learn and do much.

 Thank You
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Re: Hello!!

2011-12-01 Thread Gema Gomez
Hi Besi,

welcome to the ubuntu QA team! Looking forward to collaborating with you :D

Gema

On 01/12/11 13:17, Besmir Gogu wrote:
 Hello Everyone,
 
 My name is Besi and I am from Albania. I joined a couple of weeks ago
 but failed to introduce myself.
 I am a computer science specialist working in the mobile telecom industry.
 I would like to get involved more with the Ubuntu projects as I believe
 that you are doing an amazing work here.
 I have chosen Ubuntu as a linux distro and I believe that I can learn so
 much more by getting involved.
 I do not have a lot of experience in Ubuntu itself although I believe
 that given the chance I can learn and do much.
 
 Thank You
 Besi
 
 


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Re: Hello!!

2011-12-01 Thread Brendan Donegan

On 01/12/11 13:17, Besmir Gogu wrote:

Hello Everyone,

My name is Besi and I am from Albania. I joined a couple of weeks ago 
but failed to introduce myself.

I am a computer science specialist working in the mobile telecom industry.
I would like to get involved more with the Ubuntu projects as I 
believe that you are doing an amazing work here.
I have chosen Ubuntu as a linux distro and I believe that I can learn 
so much more by getting involved.
I do not have a lot of experience in Ubuntu itself although I believe 
that given the chance I can learn and do much.


Thank You
Besi



Hi Besi,

Thanks for expressing interest in Ubuntu QA. Right now you can join the 
following communications channels for guidance:


* #ubuntu-bugs on Freenode IRC, for help on managing and raising bugs
* #ubuntu-testing on Freenode IRC, for help on participating in QA 
activities (ISO testing mainly)


The QA wiki is here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam
The Bug Squad (bug management community) is here - 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad


Currently, there is testing going on for the Precise Pangolin Alpha 1 
release - the test tracker is here : 
http://91.189.93.73/qatracker/milestones/205/builds and you can ask on 
#ubuntu-testing if you aren't sure how to use it.
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Re: Greatings!

2011-12-01 Thread Alex Lourie
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Amaro Maguni amaro.mag...@yahoo.com.brwrote:

 Hello, everone!

 My name is Amaro Maguni (nickname: Lamech De Seth), i live in Maputo -
 Mozambique (Africa).
 My e-mail address is amaro,mag...@hotmail.com (the one i signed in with
 in this list),
 but my account was hacked and i can't have access to it, that's way i am
 sendind this e-mail
 with this alternative e-mail address. Sorry for that
 I am a Linux (Ubuntu) user for two years now, and a Linux enthusiast since
 2002.
 I joined this list because i'd like to learn, participate and help the
 Ubuntu cummunity.

 Hope to get/give good things from/to you all and and a lote of hard work
 too.

 Regards

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following communications channels for guidance:

* #ubuntu-bugs on Freenode IRC, for help on managing and raising bugs
* #ubuntu-testing on Freenode IRC, for help on participating in QA
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Re: New ISO testing tracker for Precise Alpha 1

2011-12-01 Thread Stéphane Graber
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Thanks everyone for helping with Alpha-1 testing.

It seems like the new ISO tracker worked pretty well this week, I
tried to note, prioritize and when possible fix most of the issues
I've been told about during the week.

If you've been using the new ISO tracker (http://91.189.93.73) and
have suggestions on how to improve it, please let me know.

Also note that daily images are now being published on the ISO
tracker, so feel free to use it to report your daily testing results too!


We're now waiting for a code review before upgrading the main instance
of the ISO tracker (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com), hopefully this will all
be done by Christmas and we'll be enjoying all the new features
(turned off for alpha-1) when testing alpha-2.

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Bugs Meeting Today! Nov 30 2011 1800 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Pedro Villavicencio

Hello Folks,

Just a reminder that today we're having our first Bugs meeting since the 
QA team was divided last week. The meeting focus is: Bug Triaging, 
Mentoring of new members, ongoing activities discussions, etc.  If 
you're interested on Bug Triaging, bug Management, Bug Metrics, etc then 
you should attend to it. Remember Today at 1800 UTC at #ubuntu-meeting . 
The Agenda can be found at:


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meetings

Thanks and see you at the meeting.

Have a nice day,

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New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
Dear all,

we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC, right
before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.

Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we will
give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at the moment in
the QA Team.

Find the temporary agenda in the usual place:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and let's
discuss them.

See you there,
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Re: New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
On 30/11/11 15:11, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:02:36 + Gema Gomez
 gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC,
 right before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.
 
 Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we
 will give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at
 the moment in the QA Team.
 
 Find the temporary agenda in the usual place: 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
 
 Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and
 let's discuss them.
 
 See you there, Gema
 
 
 
 
 I do not like this new meeting thing. For me, as a derivative QA,
 it now costs me two hours for the QA meeting, since I am all of QA
 for Xubuntu. We don't have two people, nor do we really have a need
 for two people.
 

Thanks for bringing this up, Charlie. You are one of the few people
that were present in most meetings, and as you know, we didn't have a
lot of outside presence in them. This, and the changes that are
undergoing in QA, that require more focus, are the reasons why we are
changing the format of the meetings. Maybe, by bringing the right
attention to QA and the right attention to bugs, we can increase the
QA community and find someone that can help you as well.

We are going to document and publish everything that is discussed in
both meetings, so anyone could make use of the mailing lists to
discuss any concern if they are not able to attend one of the meetings
in person.

Historically, in Ubuntu, bug triaging and QA have been very
interconnected and often confused, by bringing that separation to it
we are increasing our chances of success in doing better testing and
better triaging, in my opinion. We'll help you with you time problem
if you cannot attend some of the meetings, and we will consider
compressing both meetings to 30 mins each if that is all the time that
is required, let's see how it goes and how much time is really
necessary for each once they are established in their new formats.

Thanks,
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Re: New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:29:35 +
Gema Gomez gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote:

 On 30/11/11 15:11, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
  On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:02:36 + Gema Gomez
  gema.gomez-sol...@canonical.com wrote:
  
  Dear all,
  
  we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC,
  right before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.
  
  Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we
  will give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at
  the moment in the QA Team.
  
  Find the temporary agenda in the usual place: 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
  
  Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and
  let's discuss them.
  
  See you there, Gema
  
  
  
  
  I do not like this new meeting thing. For me, as a derivative QA,
  it now costs me two hours for the QA meeting, since I am all of QA
  for Xubuntu. We don't have two people, nor do we really have a need
  for two people.
  
 
 Thanks for bringing this up, Charlie. You are one of the few people
 that were present in most meetings, and as you know, we didn't have a
 lot of outside presence in them. This, and the changes that are
 undergoing in QA, that require more focus, are the reasons why we are
 changing the format of the meetings. Maybe, by bringing the right
 attention to QA and the right attention to bugs, we can increase the
 QA community and find someone that can help you as well.
 
 We are going to document and publish everything that is discussed in
 both meetings, so anyone could make use of the mailing lists to
 discuss any concern if they are not able to attend one of the meetings
 in person.
 
 Historically, in Ubuntu, bug triaging and QA have been very
 interconnected and often confused, by bringing that separation to it
 we are increasing our chances of success in doing better testing and
 better triaging, in my opinion. We'll help you with you time problem
 if you cannot attend some of the meetings, and we will consider
 compressing both meetings to 30 mins each if that is all the time that
 is required, let's see how it goes and how much time is really
 necessary for each once they are established in their new formats.
 
 Thanks,
 Gema

Thank you. I don't the length of the meeting matters so much, if I
have to plan to be in #ubuntu-meeting at both 17:00 and 18:00 UTC. That
takes a big chunk out of day.

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Re: New QA Meeting, today at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
On 30/11/11 15:02, Gema Gomez wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 we will be having our new QA Team Meeting today at 17:00 UTC, right
 before the Bugs Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting.
 
 Today we will be discussing the new format of the meeting and we will
 give an update of all the blueprints we are working on at the moment in
 the QA Team.
 
 Find the temporary agenda in the usual place:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
 
 Any questions/concerns/ideas please bring them to the meeting and let's
 discuss them.
 
 See you there,
 Gema
 
 
 

The meeting happened at the agreed time. Big thanks to everyone that
attended.

There was conversation around how to get people collaborating with
automated testing, we will keep you all posted on the progress. For
those of you who are developers as well as testers, there will be plenty
of opportunity to contribute test code.

Meeting logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/QA/2030

Thanks,
Gema

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well, here's my hello as well

2011-11-30 Thread Aaron
I've been on the list for awhile but haven't been very active in the
community for a year or so.

I was on the HP Linux Imaging and Printing project for 5 years doing QA and
Technical Support.

I would like to now find a project or area of focus so that I can continue
to be active in the community.

If there is an area or team that would have me, I'd love to help with the
next release.

Here is my linkedin profile for more of my background:

http://www.linkedin.com/in/albrigha

Ideally I'm looking for a specific project to be assigned that I can help
with.

So please feel free to be in touch on how I can participate!

Thanks for your time!

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Re: Hello everyone

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
Hi,

welcome to the ubuntu QA team! We'll see if we can find some specific
tasks that will help you with your goals :)

Gema

On 30/11/11 22:11, Phill Whiteside wrote:
 Hi Peter,
 
 Welcome to QA.
 
  if you can, please do attend some / any / all weekly meetings, details
 are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetingsthat section also includes the
 minutes from meetings so you can keep up to speed on what is being
 discussed. Other than that, please feel free to ask any questions on the
 mailing list. 
 
 Regards,
 
 Phill.
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
 
 On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Kristijan kiki.tka...@gmail.com
 mailto:kiki.tka...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Welcome Peter.
 
 
 2011/11/30 krecikos87 kreciko...@gmail.com
 mailto:kreciko...@gmail.com
 
 Hello,
 
 I am Peter and I had joined Ubuntu QA community few days ago.
 
 I am a electronic engineer with 1 year experience in software
 testing.
 
 I have three reasons joining Ubuntu QA team:
 1. I would like to improve system to be sure that I am using really
 stable and easy going operating system.
 2. I would like to get experience in using Linux system.
 3. Increase my knowledge in software testing.
 
 Looking forward to participate,
 Best regards,
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Re: well, here's my hello as well

2011-11-30 Thread Gema Gomez
Hi Aaron,

welcome to QA!

It's very valuable for us the experience you show in your CV, I am sure
you'll find interesting the challenges we are facing when trying to make
the most of the testing we are doing. You could, not only contribute
yourself but also help others get up to speed with the QA concepts and
basics.

Since there is many of you guys who have expressed the will to help in
new things, I will put together a list of tasks that are in progress or
about to start that you all may find interesting and send it to the list
to see if there are any takers. I work mainly for the Ubuntu projects,
maybe the guys from other distros that are also in the list can do the
same, so that we have a good pool of things for new starters to have a
go at.

I am off for a long weekend starting tomorrow so I will probably send
ours on Monday or so.

Thanks,
Gema


On 01/12/11 01:19, Aaron wrote:
 I've been on the list for awhile but haven't been very active in the
 community for a year or so.
 
 I was on the HP Linux Imaging and Printing project for 5 years doing QA
 and Technical Support.
 
 I would like to now find a project or area of focus so that I can
 continue to be active in the community.
 
 If there is an area or team that would have me, I'd love to help with
 the next release.
 
 Here is my linkedin profile for more of my background:
 
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/albrigha
 
 Ideally I'm looking for a specific project to be assigned that I can
 help with.
 
 So please feel free to be in touch on how I can participate!
 
 Thanks for your time!
 
 Aaron
 
 


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Introducing myself

2011-11-29 Thread Peter Thor
Hi,
I joined the list in July this year but didn't introduce myself, so here
goes. 

My name is Peter Thor, I am a Mechanical Engineer with a strong interest
in all things related to computers and software. I was born and live in
Sweden.
 
I've been using Ubuntu on a daily basis for roughly five years and have
followed its growth with interest. I have a number of computers (clients
+ servers) serving different purposes and put my trust completely on
these machines regarding the data I produce and the programmes my family
use.

I want to be part of the QA-team to ensure that 
a) my machines are operational with next release (not without
surprise :) and b) to ensure that others can benefit from such a
thriving community and finally c) to give something back to the
community and to humanity in a greater perspecive.

I go by the nickname joru on freenode.

Looking forward to participate, best regards,
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Re: Introducing myself

2011-11-29 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Peter,

welcome to qa. We're quiet until the alpha1 gets ready to make it debut,
after that... we are kept busy right until release day!

Great to have another person on board for one of the unsung parts of ubuntu
development :)

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Peter Thor thor.pe...@bredband.net wrote:

 Hi,
 I joined the list in July this year but didn't introduce myself, so here
 goes.

 My name is Peter Thor, I am a Mechanical Engineer with a strong interest
 in all things related to computers and software. I was born and live in
 Sweden.

 I've been using Ubuntu on a daily basis for roughly five years and have
 followed its growth with interest. I have a number of computers (clients
 + servers) serving different purposes and put my trust completely on
 these machines regarding the data I produce and the programmes my family
 use.

 I want to be part of the QA-team to ensure that
 a) my machines are operational with next release (not without
 surprise :) and b) to ensure that others can benefit from such a
 thriving community and finally c) to give something back to the
 community and to humanity in a greater perspecive.

 I go by the nickname joru on freenode.

 Looking forward to participate, best regards,
 Peter




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Introductory email

2011-11-24 Thread Gema Gomez
Hi all,

I have just realized I sent yesterday's email without having introduced
myself to the ubuntu-qa team, my bad.

I am a QA Engineer and in August I joined the QA Platform Team at
Canonical. I love being part of this initiative to improve the quality
of Ubuntu and I am looking forward to collaborating with all of you.

Regarding my experience as QA Engineer, I worked for years at
Symbian/Nokia first as a Test Integration Engineer, later as a System
Test Engineer. Later I worked for VMware also as QA Automation Engineer.
My main aim at those companies has been test automation, which I am
passionate about (but only when it makes sense, automation is very
expensive!).

You can have a look at the QA Team strategy here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Strategy

During this cycle we are going to be making ISOs stable and reliable so
that further and more rewarding testing is possible during the whole
cycle. We are also piloting a tool called litmus, for test case
management, we'll let you know when it is ready to be used.

We'll also be putting together some metrics so that we can measure how
good is our automated testing going forward and so that we can add test
cases where they are needed the most. If you like testing and you are a
programmer, you may want to get in touch with us. If you have a bunch of
test cases you think are good and help you find plenty of defects each
cycle, you can send them to the list and we can discuss whether it is
worth automating them and how to proceed.

We have established a definition of test case that we should all use
from now on when writing test cases (either automated or manual):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

Any questions please send them here so that we can all learn from them.

Best Regards,
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QA Team Meeting and Bugs Meeting split from next week

2011-11-23 Thread Gema Gomez
Dear all,

in an attempt to get more involvement from the community in
*bug analysis and triaging* and *quality assurance and testing*, the
BugSquad and QA Platform Teams have decided to split the Wed 18:00 GMT
Ubuntu QA Team Meeting in two separate meetings with separate objectives.

Since we are going to be putting a lot of effort this cycle into
ensuring testing and bug triaging are done better and we are going to be
contributing in different ways to improving the quality of Ubuntu, we've
decided to schedule two meetings so that people interested in bug
triaging do not need to hear all about the testing and vice versa.

Having said that, we are aware that some contributors are interested in
the two areas, so we've scheduled the new QA Team meeting one hour
earlier than the Bug Squad meeting, so that if someone wishes so, they
can attend both without too much disruption.

Please, for further information keep an eye on:
* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings - Wed 17:00 GMT
  *Focus*: QA platform activities, calls for testing, community
feedback, etc.
  *Who should attend*: Anyone interested in contributing doing testing
for Ubuntu is welcome to attend and start sharing their views,
contributing. We'll make sure all the efforts count towards the quality
of the coming release.

* https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meetings - Wed 18:00 GMT
  *Focus*: Bug triaging, mentoring of new members, ongoing activities
discussion, etc.
  *Who should attend*: Anyone interested in bug triaging, bug
management, bug metrics and classification of bugs.

Next week we will be discussing the new agendas and agreeing on a new
format that makes sense. Pedro will be chairing the Bugs meeting and I
will be chairing the QA Team meeting, we hope we see you all there!

The Ubuntu Fridge Calendar, already has the schedule information of the
meetings from next week onwards: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/

Best Regards,
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Minimal CD

2011-11-12 Thread Javier Domingo
Hi,

I have been testing minimal CDs (I usually install with them), and I have
noticed that in the last ones I have tried (11.10), it gets blank (I
mean, with the background, but without any output), and stays like that for
a long time. Is there any way to know what is happening or something?

Greetings

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Re: monitor brightness can't be dimmed

2011-11-12 Thread Alex Lourie
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:41 PM, CESAR TABLAS cesartab...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yes, through the laptop buttons  and also through System Settings - Screen
 - Brightness. Both don't work.

 I will file the bug report as you mentioned. It'll be my first time,
 though.

 Thank you, Cesar Tablas

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 *Sent:* Friday, November 11, 2011 12:08:46 PM
 *Subject:* Re: monitor brightness can't be dimmed

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 I am running ubuntu 11.10 on a Gateway NV55C with integrated Intel HD
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 How do you try to dim the monitor? Are you using the buttons on the
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Let us know if you have trouble filing a proper bug report. Alternatively,
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Re: Introducing myself

2011-11-10 Thread Alex Lourie
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Daniels Pitkevics 
daniels.pitkev...@inbox.lv wrote:

 Good evening!

 I am Daniel, almost done with joining the Ubuntu team in testing software.
 I am young man from Latvia, studying Computer Science, so I am interested
 in these kind of things.
 Why I want to join this community? To improve my knowledge, to improve the
 quality of ubuntu and to help people who don't understand this OS to
 encourage them to try something new, like, Ubuntu.
 I am interested in Operating Systems, how are they created, how can I
 modify them, so GNU/Linux is the most open OS for this purpose, also I am
 interested in programming - web pages (PHP, MySQL) and real programming
 with C++. Just learning, but already know what is what.
 And interests not related with computing are sports, travelling and now
 for a while - looking for a job.
 Anyway, thank you for this chance, I hope I will be able to help Ubuntu.

 Best regards,
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Hey Daniel

Welcome to the Ubuntu QA! We hope you'll have a great time with us.

You can ask here any questions you have and we'll try to help you as much
as we can.

Meanwhile, you can look over the QA team activities [1], and start
participating in whatever you like the most!

Cheers!


[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities

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Re: Login freezes (Maverick, Natty Oneiric same things wrong)

2011-11-09 Thread Jonathan Rogers
Alexander Vinbæk Strand wrote:
 Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't work on my laptop. From version 10.10 or newer it
 hangs or freezes at login. The last ubuntu working is 10.04 LTS.
 Please fix it in 12.04 LTS. The new login theme is good. Now you must
 do so the OS is working for me. I have tried it on my girlfriend's
 computer also that is the same type. Doesn't work there either. Tried
 both wubi and normal install. Same thing both times.
 Anyone know what's wrong?
 We're running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now.
 Ubuntu is the best but we cant use the new versions on our pc's.
 Please find out what's wrong!
 Alexander Strand


No one will be able to offer much help without any details about the
situation. At the very least, you'll need to provide details about the
type of machine you tried 11.10 on. Did you run the LiveCD or upgrade
from a working Ubuntu installation?

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Introduction

2011-10-28 Thread janak dev
hi everyone,
Been using Ubuntu for quite some time. And now want contribute to it.
I am doing my B.Tech in Computer Science and Engineering from NIT-Bhopal
(India).
I am very much interested in open source work. And want to be a part of the
Ubuntu open source community.
hope to work with you guys and spread the message of open source.

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Re: Idea for a new test in laptop QA

2011-10-25 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
2011/10/18 Julien Cornuwel jul...@cornuwel.net:
 Hi,

 I recently reported bug #875686 and realised it isn't tested in the laptop QA.
 I really think it should be, as it is a very common situation to
 laptop users (closing the lid off their laptop).

Hi Julien.

As a default action, closing the lid should suspend the system.
So I think (but can be wrong) that your issue is due to a suspend problem.

In this situation, it's not necessary to add a new testcase because
it's covered by the suspend/resume one.

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Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing Report

2011-10-18 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
Hi all,

Below you find enclosed the laptop testing report for Oneiric Beta 2:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/ReleaseReports/OneiricBeta2LaptopTestReport

Thanks to marknigh,  m_yanagisawa, rio, irenebonta, Samsagax,
gjditchfield,  yotux, CarlaSella, brunogirin, saqman2060, lapor.

Nice work folks!


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Join Ubuntu Oneiric Final Laptop Testing

2011-10-18 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
Hi all!

Oneiric has been released now. As usual we ask everyone on the QA team to
participate in the laptop testing, confirming positive/negative results and
checking for regressions from previous milestones.

The procedures for testing your laptop and reporting results are
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures

You can start downloading the image at
http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/

Test results will be tracked on
http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register
if you are new to this.

Please let us know if you have any questions, we will coordinate
testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode.

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Ubuntu Friendly session in the Ubuntu Open Week

2011-10-13 Thread Ara Pulido
Hey!

Just in case you didn't know, Daniel Manrique is giving a session about
Ubuntu Friendly in the Ubuntu Open Week next week on Tuesday:

   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/

So, if you want to know more about Ubuntu Friendly [1] and how to
participate in the programme testing your system, make sure to make it
to his session!

Cheers,
Ara.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly

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Rebuild of Oneiric Desktop, DVD, ARM and Wubi in progress and need testing

2011-10-12 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Hi everyone,

Thanks to your help 2 very nasty bugs have been discovered at the last
minute (bug 322830 and another one in casper). Fortunately unstoppable
Ubuntu developers, cjwatson, stgraber and infinity squashed them with no
mercy.

As a consequence, we are currently rebuilding desktop, dvds, arm and
wubi images for all flavors. Which also means that these images will
need to be re-tested.

We are counting on all of you to help with testing these images today
and make Oneiric one great release.

Join #ubuntu-testing on freenode to be informed on what needs testing
and what other are testing.

Thanks all for making (K|X|Edu|L|Myth|..)Ubuntu better every day.

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Fwd: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 48, Issue 3

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Hi everyone!

The release of Oneiric is due this week and candidate images are ready
for testing on the ISO tracker. As usual we'll be asking everyone on the
QA team to participate in the image testing to ensure we have good test
coverage.

The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures

Sync the images and post your test results on the tracker at
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if
you are new to this.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go
there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.

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Fwd: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installer issues with PPC Ocelot

2011-10-07 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi QA,

for my limited knowledge, this seems like a problem in the build engine as
it is affecting both lubuntu  ubuntu. I had previously pointed the OP to
the bug affecting the 'mirror' problem.
Should this be filed against Ubiquity or the build system, or something
else? I'm certain that he would than happy to provide further information on
what the system is doing etc if asked.

@ Walter, as you can see, I've asked the QA team to issue guidance as to
where best to report the problem. Thanks for taking the time to report the
issue, I hope to have good news for you soon.

Regards,

Phill.

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From: Walter Lapchynski carsrcoffin...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:12 PM
Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installer issues with PPC Ocelot
To: lubuntu-desk...@lists.launchpad.net 
lubuntu-desk...@lists.launchpad.net


I was SO excited to see Lubuntu on Canonical with an Ocelot version. My 12
PowerBook G4 has been waiting forever for this.

Unfortunately, installation isn't going well. Desktop installer needed a
bunch of upgrades (including to pygobject which caused an error) and then
failed because of a supposedly fixed error in choose-mirror where mirror
is the default rather than ports.ubuntu.com.

This error IS fixed in x86 Ocelot but not in PPC. Standard Ubuntu PPC Ocelot
has the same issue, so this is not just Lubuntu.

I have tried to run Ubiquity without the network connection and yet still
the installer attempts to download packages.

I tried the alternate install CD and it boots fine, but when it comes to
detecting the cdrom, it fails. The BusyBox shell fails to reveal mention of
the cdrom anywhere: syslog, dmesg, /proc, /dev, etc. I tried to try again
many times over to no avail.

Interestingly, the latest Debian Squeeze PPC small CD, which I believe has
the same installer, has no problems detecting the cdrom.

So I don't know where to go next but I'm hoping that maybe the choose-mirror
fix can be applied to the PPC version or that perhaps there may be some
config file (like sources.list but for choose-mirror) I could manually edit.
Ideas?

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Re: Fwd: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installer issues with PPC Ocelot

2011-10-07 Thread Walter Lapchynski

Thanks again, Phil. I did add this to the one place I know of, bug 756719 in 
Launchpad. If it should go elsewhere or if more detail is required, let me know.


On Oct 7, 2011 11:57 AM, Phill Whiteside lt;phi...@ubuntu.comgt; wrote: 

Hi QA,
for my limited knowledge, this seems like a problem in the build engine as it 
is affecting both lubuntu amp; ubuntu. I had previously pointed the OP to the 
bug affecting the 'mirror' problem.nbsp;

Should this be filed against Ubiquity or the build system, or something else? 
I'm certain that he would than happy to provide further information on what the 
system is doing etc if asked.
@ Walter, as you can see, I've asked the QA team to issue guidance as to where 
best to report the problem. Thanks for taking the time to report the issue, I 
hope to have good news for you soon.

Regards,
Phill.
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From: Walter Lapchynski lt;carsrcoffin...@yahoo.comgt;

Date: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:12 PM
Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installer issues with PPC Ocelot
To: lubuntu-desk...@lists.launchpad.net 
lt;lubuntu-desk...@lists.launchpad.netgt;



I was SO excited to see Lubuntu on Canonical with an Ocelot version. My 12 
PowerBook G4 has been waiting forever for this.

Unfortunately, installation isn't going well. Desktop installer needed a bunch 
of upgrades (including to pygobject which caused an error) and then failed 
because of a supposedly fixed error in choose-mirror where mirror is the 
default rather than ports.ubuntu.com. 


This error IS fixed in x86 Ocelot but not in PPC. Standard Ubuntu PPC Ocelot 
has the same issue, so this is not just Lubuntu.

I have tried to run Ubiquity without the network connection and yet still the 
installer attempts to download packages.


I tried the alternate install CD and it boots fine, but when it comes to 
detecting the cdrom, it fails. The BusyBox shell fails to reveal mention of the 
cdrom anywhere: syslog, dmesg, /proc, /dev, etc. I tried to try again many 
times over to no avail.


Interestingly, the latest Debian Squeeze PPC small CD, which I believe has the 
same installer, has no problems detecting the cdrom.

So I don't know where to go next but I'm hoping that maybe the choose-mirror 
fix can be applied to the PPC version or that perhaps there may be some config 
file (likenbsp;sources.list but for choose-mirror) I could manually edit. 
Ideas?


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2011-10-05 Meeting

2011-10-06 Thread Max Brustkern

Hi,

Here are the minutes of our weekly QA Meeting at #ubuntu-meeting. They
can also be found online with the IRC logs at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/20111005

Most of the team was occupied with the approaching Oneiric release.
nuclearbob continues to work on qrt dependency specification standardization.
pedro volunteered to chair the next meeting.

Next meeting will be 2011-10-12 at 1700 UTC. pedro will be the next chair.

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Re: Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing

2011-09-27 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
2011/9/27 chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com:
 Wow!  WOW!  *W*O*W*

 When I came back to my elderly Toshiba laptop tonight, which is running
 patched-up-to-date Beta-2, it had suspended itself!  And, the most amazing
 thing, when I touched the power switch, it came back to life successfully -
 network, Google connection, and everything!

 Fantastic and great work to all the people who made this happen!

That's nice, but remember to report it on the tracker as beta2 result
and to comment the bug you previously open about that, so other people
with your laptop can benefit from it.

Ciao!





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Re: [Ubuntu-laptop-testing] Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing

2011-09-26 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
2011/9/24 Aakash Sharma aakash.y.sha...@gmail.com:
 i do have a laptop running 11.04 and i'm willing to test for 11.10 beta.
 however, is there a way to secure things so that if anything goes wrong, my
 data + settings for 11.04 remain the same?

You can test it using a live cd/usb disk.

Have a look here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD

Pics are a bit outdated but the guide is nice anyway.

Ciao!




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Re: [Ubuntu-laptop-testing] Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing

2011-09-26 Thread Glen Ditchfield
On September 25, 2011 22:12:54 ksh shrm wrote:
 Is the procedure similar as installing ubuntu and during installation,
 select advanced option for partition and creating a new one out of it?

Yes, it's pretty simple. If you sign up for ISO testing as well as laptop 
testing, there are even test cases for it:
http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopManual

 However, what's the process for undoing that partition change?
I haven't tried that yet. The next release to test always comes out before I 
get 
around to it...

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Re: Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing

2011-09-26 Thread chris hermansen
Wow!  WOW!  *W*O*W*

When I came back to my elderly Toshiba laptop tonight, which is running
patched-up-to-date Beta-2, it had suspended itself!  And, the most amazing
thing, when I touched the power switch, it came back to life successfully -
network, Google connection, and everything!

Fantastic and great work to all the people who made this happen!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Sergio Zanchetta prime...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Hi all!

 Oneiric Beta 2 is out now and we ask everyone on the QA team to
 participate in the laptop testing, confirming positive/negative results and
 checking for regressions from previous milestones.

 The procedures for testing your laptop and reporting results are
 explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures

 You can start downloading the image at
 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/

 Test results will be tracked on
 http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/

 You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register
 if you are new to this.

 Please let us know if you have any questions, we will coordinate
 testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode.

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Re: Re: [Ubuntu-laptop-testing] Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing

2011-09-25 Thread chris hermansen
Dani, the instructions on the testing page are pretty explicit NOT to use a
virtual machine.

What works for me is to have a spare hard drive for testing. At least on my
old Toshiba and Dell, it only takes five minutes to swap.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:42 AM, daniso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, as always said, this is a beta version and you shouldn't install it
 on your primary pc. i suggest that you install a virtual machine like
 vmware, virtualbox or what ever, and test ubuntu from their.

 Regards,
 Dani



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 Am 24.09.2011 15:47 schrieb Aakash Sharma aakash.y.sha...@gmail.com:
 i do have a laptop running 11.04 and i'm willing to test for 11.10 beta.
 however, is there a way to secure things so that if anything goes wrong, my
 data + settings for 11.04 remain the same?

 it's my primary laptop, so i can't afford to loose it for more than 2 days
 and i need a way to get things back to normal.

 i appreciate ubuntu n everyone working on it.

 ~aakash
 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Sergio Zanchetta prime...@ubuntu.comwrote:

 Hi all!

 Oneiric Beta 2 is out now and we ask everyone on the QA team to
 participate in the laptop testing, confirming positive/negative results
 and
 checking for regressions from previous milestones.

 The procedures for testing your laptop and reporting results are
 explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures

 You can start downloading the image at
 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/

 Test results will be tracked on
 http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/

 You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register
 if you are new to this.

 Please let us know if you have any questions, we will coordinate
 testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode.

 Thanks and happy testing!

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Re: [Ubuntu-laptop-testing] Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing

2011-09-25 Thread istimsak abdulbasir
I won't be able to swap my laptop's harddrive, I only have one. I will use
the liveCD amd64 to test. Then use the 32bit liveCD.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM, chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dani, the instructions on the testing page are pretty explicit NOT to use a
 virtual machine.

 What works for me is to have a spare hard drive for testing. At least on my
 old Toshiba and Dell, it only takes five minutes to swap.

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 Hello, as always said, this is a beta version and you shouldn't install it
 on your primary pc. i suggest that you install a virtual machine like
 vmware, virtualbox or what ever, and test ubuntu from their.

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 i do have a laptop running 11.04 and i'm willing to test for 11.10 beta.
 however, is there a way to secure things so that if anything goes wrong, my
 data + settings for 11.04 remain the same?

 it's my primary laptop, so i can't afford to loose it for more than 2 days
 and i need a way to get things back to normal.

 i appreciate ubuntu n everyone working on it.

 ~aakash
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Re: [Ubuntu-laptop-testing] Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing

2011-09-25 Thread Glen Ditchfield
 Am 24.09.2011 15:47 schrieb Aakash Sharma aakash.y.sha...@gmail.com:
 i do have a laptop running 11.04 and i'm willing to test for 11.10 beta.
 however, is there a way to secure things so that if anything goes wrong,
 my data + settings for 11.04 remain the same?
 
 it's my primary laptop, so i can't afford to loose it for more than 2
 days and i need a way to get things back to normal.

Do you have a few unused gigabytes of disk space? I used the installer to 
create 
a 5.6 GiB partition and installed a new system there for laptop testing. 

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Re: zsync

2011-09-19 Thread BOB Merhebi
Hello Phil,

Thanks for the reply  your suggestion. I already installed zsync  read
the man page (writing this mail offline). Just two question though:

1) how different is it from wget in regard of updating a previous download ?
2) (currently having 10.04  11.04 discs from a popular linux magazine),
how can I use this disc ?
3) do I use the file as an .ISO ? or should it be extracted ?

thanks for the help

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 Hi Bob,

 thanks for the interest you have shown in assisting. The good news is
 that there is a method to keep your images up to date without need to
 download a completely fresh iso each time. It is covered at 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage which also mentions the
 excellent ubuntu-qa-tools. 

 Regards,

 Phill.

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 mailto:bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm Bob  have been using Ubuntu for the past several years. Currently
 using 10.04 LTS  possibly waiting for 12.04 (LTS ?).

 As much as I'd like to be part of the laptop testing team, the
 issue of
 downloading the iso is an obstacle. MY connection speed 
 bandwidth is a
 DSL but is very limited; is there an alternative solution ?

 thanks

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Re: Slow DSL

2011-09-19 Thread BOB Merhebi
Hello  irlandes,
 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:56:43 -0500
 From: irlandes brucemcgov...@earthlink.net
 To: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Slow DSL
 Message-ID: 1316231803.1637.13.camel@myA860
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 I think you have been given a good solution to slow service, Bob. But,
 another option depending upon your exact problem is the command wget.

indeed i think its a good solution though i have to learn how to use it
first.

 wget -c url.iso

already asked about the difference in a previous email before i read this.

 lets you stop download and start again at your convenience.  You can
 download a few MB, and start again, even many days later, with no data
 lost, as long as the iso has not been changed.

the problem is not the main problem; rather its the bandwidth; i'd like
to save my bandwidth as it is limited

 It expects to find previous downloads in the directory where the
 terminal is setting, and if it is not there, will restart the download.

 It seems to me, by defective memory, that there are mirrored images of a
 small net iso which is designed to download other things desired. But, I
 can't remember if Ubuntu actually lets you select which packages to
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Re: zsync

2011-09-19 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Bob,

As far as I know, and I'm sure if I am wrong someone will correct me, zsync
is used to update the iso, so if you have a CD you would need to put it onto
the hard drive as an ISO and then zsync would simply update the parts of it
as the updates arrive, leaving you with a bang up to date ISO that you can
then use to create CD's / USB boots etc. The theory is that you do not need
to download the entire ISO again, it will simply just download ONLY the
files that have been changed (newer versions).

I've never used wget to try and update an ISO image, again I could be wrong,
but I do not think wget can perform that function.

Regards,

Phill.

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 **
 Hello Phil,

 Thanks for the reply  your suggestion. I already installed zsync  read
 the man page (writing this mail offline). Just two question though:

 1) how different is it from wget in regard of updating a previous download
 ?
 2) (currently having 10.04  11.04 discs from a popular linux magazine),
 how can I use this disc ?
 3) do I use the file as an .ISO ? or should it be extracted ?

 thanks for the help

 On 09/15/2011 11:11 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 Hi Bob,

  thanks for the interest you have shown in assisting. The good news is
 that there is a method to keep your images up to date without need to
 download a completely fresh iso each time. It is covered at
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage which also mentions the
 excellent ubuntu-qa-tools.

  Regards,

  Phill.

 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm Bob  have been using Ubuntu for the past several years. Currently
 using 10.04 LTS  possibly waiting for 12.04 (LTS ?).

 As much as I'd like to be part of the laptop testing team, the issue of
 downloading the iso is an obstacle. MY connection speed  bandwidth is a
 DSL but is very limited; is there an alternative solution ?

 thanks

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New member introduction

2011-09-17 Thread shariq murtaza
Hello,

  My name is  Shariq (tuxer) .I have beenusing Ubuntu since many years

  I want to be the part of testing team in a healthy and active manner

  thanks


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Download of latest Iso

2011-09-17 Thread shariq murtaza
hello
I just wanted to know how can i continuously be updated with the latest
release of iso
without downloading them all the time
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Re: Download of latest Iso

2011-09-17 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Shariq,

using zsync is the easiest way. It is covered at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage

Regards,

Phill.

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Hello Everyone[UbuntuTesters]

2011-09-17 Thread Gadiel Sanchez
Hello everyone on this community, im a young programmer student from Mexico, 
and im pretty excited about being involved with Ubuntu testers, helping with 
some personal issues or bugs that I found o my laptop, and hardware...


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Slow DSL

2011-09-16 Thread irlandes
I think you have been given a good solution to slow service, Bob. But,
another option depending upon your exact problem is the command wget.

wget -c url.iso

lets you stop download and start again at your convenience.  You can
download a few MB, and start again, even many days later, with no data
lost, as long as the iso has not been changed.

It expects to find previous downloads in the directory where the
terminal is setting, and if it is not there, will restart the download.

It seems to me, by defective memory, that there are mirrored images of a
small net iso which is designed to download other things desired. But, I
can't remember if Ubuntu actually lets you select which packages to
download, like debian does or not.

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 Hello,
 
 I'm Bob  have been using Ubuntu for the past several years. Currently
 using 10.04 LTS  possibly waiting for 12.04 (LTS ?).
 
 As much as I'd like to be part of the laptop testing team, the issue of
 downloading the iso is an obstacle. MY connection speed  bandwidth is a
 DSL but is very limited; is there an alternative solution ?
 
 thanks
 
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 Hi Bob,
 
 thanks for the interest you have shown in assisting. The good news is that
 there is a method to keep your images up to date without need to download a
 completely fresh iso each time. It is covered at
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage which also mentions the
 excellent ubuntu-qa-tools.
 
 Regards,
 
 Phill.
 
 On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I'm Bob  have been using Ubuntu for the past several years. Currently
  using 10.04 LTS  possibly waiting for 12.04 (LTS ?).
 
  As much as I'd like to be part of the laptop testing team, the issue of
  downloading the iso is an obstacle. MY connection speed  bandwidth is a
  DSL but is very limited; is there an alternative solution ?
 
  thanks
 
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Re: New Member: help

2011-09-15 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Bob,

thanks for the interest you have shown in assisting. The good news is that
there is a method to keep your images up to date without need to download a
completely fresh iso each time. It is covered at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage which also mentions the
excellent ubuntu-qa-tools.

Regards,

Phill.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM, BOB Merhebi bobmerh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm Bob  have been using Ubuntu for the past several years. Currently
 using 10.04 LTS  possibly waiting for 12.04 (LTS ?).

 As much as I'd like to be part of the laptop testing team, the issue of
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New Member: Adam Warren

2011-09-13 Thread Adam Warren
Hello all,
My name is Adam Warren and I just joined the testing team. I currently am
studying Chemistry/Biomedical Engineering at Butler University. I love
ubuntu, and use it on a daily basis, so I am really looking forward to being
apart of the testing team. I am no pro, though. I'm just starting to get my
feet wet but I'm a quick learner and can't wait to learn all about this
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Re: New Member: Adam Warren

2011-09-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Adam,

welcome to QA, I'm also new to finer parts of QA they are a very patient set
of people always available to answer 'n00b' questions from us :)

Regards,

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

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Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 Laptop Testing

2011-09-05 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
Hi all!

Oneiric Beta 1 is out now and we ask everyone on the QA team to
participate in the laptop testing.

The procedures for testing your laptop and reporting results are
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures

You can start downloading the image at
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ ,test results will
be tracked on http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register
if you are new to this.

Please let us know if you have any questions, we will coordinate
testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode.



Below you find enclosed a brief testing report for Oneiric Alphas and
for stable supported releases:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlphasLaptopTestReport

Thank you to dannew, irenebonta,  marknigh,  v-miheer,  whisperity,
mminoru-yanagisawa, Tankopunk, DrScott, pablojavier, stanraystan,
primes2h, paulmiles, moogman, vytautas-sadauskas, michaela-kunclova,
paolorotolo, lavrton, martin-o, palma-salvatore, keebaud,
fabiomarconi,  thmslld, goblinyara-gmail, nik90, mauro-feb16,
jowouters, cornuwel, pink-lace, samsagax,  jazz41408, noe,
gjditchfield, lousygarua, newlife, bruno0-1-2,  piferrari,
mazumder-aniket,  giuseppeterrasi, bjarkih1977, carla-sella, sineau,
aptidude, bychkov.v1, tbradley96, dedalu-dedalu, fruchtkeks, lpnet,
lepelerin2002, marcodubpi, ivan812, rodolfo-enq,  sh4d,  pal_,
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Re: Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 Laptop Testing

2011-09-05 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
2011/9/5 Sergio Zanchetta prime...@ubuntu.com:
 Hi all!

 Oneiric Beta 1 is out now and we ask everyone on the QA team to
 participate in the laptop testing.

 The procedures for testing your laptop and reporting results are
 explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures

 You can start downloading the image at
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-1/

The correct link for the i386 and amd64 Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 images  is:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/

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Release Team meeting - 2011/09/02 cancelled.

2011-09-02 Thread Kate Stewart
A very big THANK YOU all the developers, testers, and release team
members who helped get Beta 1 released today!!

We'll be canceling tomorrow's release team meeting, but fear not, a nice
summary of the bugs found during the beta testing will be mailed out
tomorrow to give you interesting new problems to figure out. ;)

Next meeting will be on Sept. 9, 2011.

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Re: À propos de moi / About myself

2011-09-01 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Mario Lemelin
mario.leme...@cgocable.ca wrote:
 My name is Mario Lemelin (lemelinm). I made the leap to Linux with

Hi Mario!

I'm glad to see your name pop up on this list. Welcome! :)

 distribution (I think). Since I participate in different forums and this
 year I decided to get involved in the process of creating a new version
 of Ubuntu.

I'm glad to hear that. (I'll interpret this as I want to help, where
can I start?, hope I'm not wrong)

Have you put thought into what aspects you'd like to work on? The QA
team does testing for new ISO releases (like we were doing this
week!), bug triaging, etc. There's plenty of areas where you can help
out, or you can read the wiki page [1] if you want to know more (and
you can just ask on the list).

A good idea is also to hang out on IRC in the #ubuntu-testing and/or
#ubuntu-quality channels (and maybe your LoCo team's channel, since
various teams organize events to work on bugs and all ;)

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam


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À propos de moi / About myself

2011-08-31 Thread Mario Lemelin
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Bonjour à vous tous,

Mon nom est Mario Lemelin (lemelinm).  J'ai fait le saut vers Linux avec
Ubuntu 9.04.  Je n'ai jamais été à l'aise avec les systèmes d'opération
propriétaire (Microsoft, Apple, IBM) et les ordinateurs construit avec
des pièces propriétaires et une version d'OS patentée pour optimiser
leur ordinateurs (Compaq, HP, IBM).  Ceux qui ont connu DrDOS se
rappelle sa force comparé avec MsDOS.  Et nous savons qui a gagné cette
guerre, le moins bon.

La philosophie de base de Linux (merci encore Linus Torvalds!) est tout
à fait dans mon style de vie de tous les jours.  Ancien professeur de
mathématique à l'université puis de physique, mathématique et
informatique au collégial, ceci explique peut-être pourquoi.  Par mes
lectures (web, revues), j'en suis venu à la conclusion qu'Ubuntu était
la meilleur distribution (selon moi).  Depuis, je participe à différents
forums et cette année, j'ai décidé de m'impliquer dans le processus de
création d'une nouvelle mouture de Ubuntu.

Merci à tous ceux qui permettent à ce beau projet Linux qui offre une
alternative contre le non-libre et ses tentacules!

English

Hello everyone,

My name is Mario Lemelin (lemelinm). I made the leap to Linux with
Ubuntu 9.04. I've never been comfortable with the owner operating
systems (Microsoft, Apple, IBM) and computers built with proprietary
parts and patented version of OS to optimize their computers (Compaq,
HP, IBM) . Those who knew DRDOS remembers its strength compared to
MSDOS. And we know who won that war, the worse.

The basic philosophy of Linux (Linus Torvalds thank you again!) is very
much in my lifestyle everyday. Former professor of mathematics at the
University and in physics, mathematics and computing at the college
level (17-18 years old), this may explain why. By my reading (web
journals), I came to the conclusion that Ubuntu was the best
distribution (I think). Since I participate in different forums and this
year I decided to get involved in the process of creating a new version
of Ubuntu.

Thank you to all those who enable this exciting project which offers a
Linux alternative against the non-free and its tentacles!


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Near and Far
Hiddenly
To each other linked are,
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 I currently have alpha 3 running, will it upgrade automatically to the
 beta 1 version?  Or would it be better to reinstall using the beta 1
 iso?

 On Monday, August 29, 2011, Jean-Baptiste Lallement
 jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Hi everyone!
 
  Oneiric Beta 1 is due this week and as usual we'll be asking everyone on
 the QA team to participate in the image testing to ensure we have good test
 coverage.
 
  The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are explained
 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures
 
  You can start syncing your ISOs. First images have been posted to the ISO
 tracker and more images will be posted once they finished building.
 
  Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
 
  You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if
 you are new to this.
 
  Please let us know if you have any questions.
 
  We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go
 there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.
 
  Thank you very much for your help and happy testing!
 
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Re: Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 ISO Testing

2011-08-30 Thread Ronald McCollam
It depends on what you want to test.  If you run update-manager, it will 
automatically update you to the Beta 1 packages once they are out.  You 
can report bugs against Beta 1 packages just like you could pre-beta.


However, in order to do ISO testing, we need everyone to download and 
test the actual Beta 1 CD images.  The focus of this testing is on the 
install and live CD aspects of the distibution more than on the 
individual packages.


Both are quite useful, but Jean-Baptiste was definitely trying to get 
people to download the ISOs and test them specifically. :)


 - rm

On 08/29/2011 10:32 AM, Michael Harden wrote:

I currently have alpha 3 running, will it upgrade automatically to the
beta 1 version?  Or would it be better to reinstall using the beta 1
iso?

On Monday, August 29, 2011, Jean-Baptiste Lallement
jean-bapti...@ubuntu.com  wrote:

Hi everyone!

Oneiric Beta 1 is due this week and as usual we'll be asking everyone on the QA 
team to participate in the image testing to ensure we have good test coverage.

The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are explained on 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures

You can start syncing your ISOs. First images have been posted to the ISO 
tracker and more images will be posted once they finished building.

Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if you are 
new to this.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go there 
often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.

Thank you very much for your help and happy testing!

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intro about myself

2011-08-30 Thread Vyas Rajiv Karthik

Hi all,   I am Vyas,a newbie for the QA team. I got interested with the 
ubuntu when i was building the network of ubuntu servers as a part of my 
course. So, that made me interested in getting involved with the ubuntu team. 
As a part of my course I usually do penetration testing so, i thought that i 
can even share my knowledge and can help to improve ubuntu along with others. 
I'm excited to work with people around the world who are gurus in their own 
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Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 1 ISO Testing

2011-08-29 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement

Hi everyone!

Oneiric Beta 1 is due this week and as usual we'll be asking everyone on 
the QA team to participate in the image testing to ensure we have good 
test coverage.


The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are 
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures


You can start syncing your ISOs. First images have been posted to the 
ISO tracker and more images will be posted once they finished building.


Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if 
you are new to this.


Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go 
there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.


Thank you very much for your help and happy testing!

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A question

2011-08-12 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, QA,

A couple of people have stated that Lubuntu is not 'really' on the ISO
testing area, one simple example would be http://qa.ubuntu.com/ which does
not even list xubuntu?

I am struggling to send people who would like to get involved in QA when
they return to me to say the site does not work.

If there are any wiki edits that you need to live and active pages I would
be more than happy to get them there. (I also have a gang of people who
would love this in their resumee).


Regards,

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Re: A question

2011-08-12 Thread Jeff Lane
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 15:11, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi, QA,
 A couple of people have stated that Lubuntu is not 'really' on the ISO
 testing area, one simple example would be http://qa.ubuntu.com/ which does
 not even list xubuntu?

That's because, I believe, that Lubuntu is not an official port,
unlike Xubuntu and Kubuntu.  I could be wrong there, but that's my
understanding of it.

As for Xubuntu, I don't understand what you mean.
http://qa.ubuntu.com doesn't list anything because it's a blog ;-)
However, the ISO section at http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/iso-testing/
clearly shows Xubuntu in the explanation.  Perhaps you actually want
to show them http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com , the actual ISO tracker. Though
keep in mind that that's only active at Milestones and Release.  The
ISO tracker provides info and test cases for Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu,
Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu-Server and a few others.

 I am struggling to send people who would like to get involved in QA when
 they return to me to say the site does not work.

What does not work?  Is the site too difficult to understand?  Are
the explanations at http://qa.ubuntu.com not clear enough, or
difficult to find?  That's a pretty generic statement and if there is
a problem that's turning away potential QA volunteers, it would be
nice to know exactly what's broken so the team can work on fixing it.

 If there are any wiki edits that you need to live and active pages I would
 be more than happy to get them there. (I also have a gang of people who
 would love this in their resumee).

We'd love to have them!  If they have problems, the first thing to do
is join the ubuntu-qa list and ask questions there.  It's not USENET,
no one's going to start cussing and screaming at teh n00bs.  Or hop on
Freenode IRC and join #ubuntu-quality, though for newbie questions, I
prefer e-mail as IRC is not always a guarantee depending on your time
zone.

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Re: A question

2011-08-12 Thread James Gifford

Jeff,

Lubuntu is an official port, starting this cycle. More on that here[1].

Cheers,
James Gifford
http://jamesrgifford.com

[1] http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-track-official-status-ubuntu-flavour
[1] 
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-made-official-ubuntu-derivative/

On 08/12/2011 03:27 PM, Jeff Lane wrote:

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 15:11, Phill Whitesidephi...@ubuntu.com  wrote:

Hi, QA,
A couple of people have stated that Lubuntu is not 'really' on the ISO
testing area, one simple example would be http://qa.ubuntu.com/ which does
not even list xubuntu?


That's because, I believe, that Lubuntu is not an official port,
unlike Xubuntu and Kubuntu.  I could be wrong there, but that's my
understanding of it.

As for Xubuntu, I don't understand what you mean.
http://qa.ubuntu.com doesn't list anything because it's a blog ;-)
However, the ISO section at http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/iso-testing/
clearly shows Xubuntu in the explanation.  Perhaps you actually want
to show them http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com , the actual ISO tracker. Though
keep in mind that that's only active at Milestones and Release.  The
ISO tracker provides info and test cases for Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu,
Edubuntu, Mythbuntu, Ubuntu-Server and a few others.


I am struggling to send people who would like to get involved in QA when
they return to me to say the site does not work.


What does not work?  Is the site too difficult to understand?  Are
the explanations at http://qa.ubuntu.com not clear enough, or
difficult to find?  That's a pretty generic statement and if there is
a problem that's turning away potential QA volunteers, it would be
nice to know exactly what's broken so the team can work on fixing it.


If there are any wiki edits that you need to live and active pages I would
be more than happy to get them there. (I also have a gang of people who
would love this in their resumee).


We'd love to have them!  If they have problems, the first thing to do
is join the ubuntu-qa list and ask questions there.  It's not USENET,
no one's going to start cussing and screaming at teh n00bs.  Or hop on
Freenode IRC and join #ubuntu-quality, though for newbie questions, I
prefer e-mail as IRC is not always a guarantee depending on your time
zone.

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Re: A question

2011-08-12 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:11:02 +0100
Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi, QA,
 
 A couple of people have stated that Lubuntu is not 'really' on the ISO
 testing area, one simple example would be http://qa.ubuntu.com/ which does
 not even list xubuntu?


That site is the QA blog for Ubuntu. Xubuntu is actually a separate
distribution and should not be part of the Ubuntu blog.

 I am struggling to send people who would like to get involved in QA when
 they return to me to say the site does not work.
 
 If there are any wiki edits that you need to live and active pages I would
 be more than happy to get them there. (I also have a gang of people who
 would love this in their resumee).
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Phill.

I would suggest starting at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing or even
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam instead of the blog. To get involved in
QA, one should get involved in either Bugsquad or Testing. Those are
the two areas of QA for volunteers to get involved.

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Re: A question

2011-08-12 Thread Michael Haney
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote:
 Jeff,

 Lubuntu is an official port, starting this cycle. More on that here[1].


I was wondering when Lubuntu would finally earn official status from
Canonical. I've been using it for a while in VirtualBox. Its rather
stable and runs very fast. After using it for a while, I prefer LXDE
over XFCE now.

When will the derivative be listed on the official website ubuntu.com?

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Re: A question

2011-08-12 Thread Jeff Lane
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 15:30, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote:
 Jeff,

 Lubuntu is an official port, starting this cycle. More on that here[1].

 Cheers,
 James Gifford
 http://jamesrgifford.com

 [1] http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-track-official-status-ubuntu-flavour
 [1]
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-made-official-ubuntu-derivative/

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Let me Introduce.

2011-08-10 Thread Jiří Podvolecký
Good Morning,

   My name is Jiří (George) Podvolecký. I'm 30 years old. I born at 3rd
decade of March ( 25th day ) in zodiac of ram. I ended my study in
branche of Elektronical Computer Systems at high school (ISŠE Lipník
n/B.). I'm christian nail catholicizm and saint father ( I fumble it is
Benedict XVI. in my memmory for now.) I'm bebtized and confirmee too.
I'm acolyte ( Or altar boy if you prefer ). I styl live with my mam and
my sister. I have a one brother. He ended study by university
graduateship in computer branche.
  I am interested god and computers ( Not in one - It is satanism ). I
have no girl but I'm interested in seeking some. I use Ubuntu from Hardy
Heron. I want start participate ubuntu testing and growing ubuntu
commnity.

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Re: Let me Introduce.

2011-08-10 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi George,

welcome to the ubuntu family. I am sure that our ethos in Ubuntu will sit
happily with your own beliefs, similar beliefs - just phrased differently.

All people who can help make ubuntu better are welcome, I have no doubt that
in as diverse things as translation to checking ISO images your help will be
welcomed.

Regards,

Phill.

2011/8/10 Jiří Podvolecký jiri.podvole...@volny.cz

 Good Morning,

   My name is Jiří (George) Podvolecký. I'm 30 years old. I born at 3rd
 decade of March ( 25th day ) in zodiac of ram. I ended my study in
 branche of Elektronical Computer Systems at high school (ISŠE Lipník
 n/B.). I'm christian nail catholicizm and saint father ( I fumble it is
 Benedict XVI. in my memmory for now.) I'm bebtized and confirmee too.
 I'm acolyte ( Or altar boy if you prefer ). I styl live with my mam and
 my sister. I have a one brother. He ended study by university
 graduateship in computer branche.
  I am interested god and computers ( Not in one - It is satanism ). I
 have no girl but I'm interested in seeking some. I use Ubuntu from Hardy
 Heron. I want start participate ubuntu testing and growing ubuntu
 commnity.

   In city Hranice 10.august 2011.


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You're invited to join Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha 3 ISO Testing

2011-08-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement

Hi everyone!

Oneiric Alpha 3 is due this week and candidate images start appearing on 
the tracker.


For this milestone a new product is available for testing: Lubuntu

The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are 
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures


Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if 
you are new to this.


Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go 
there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.


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Re: point releases

2011-07-31 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 23:19:11 +0100
Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 sorry for a fairly n00b question, as some of you will aware lubuntu is to be
 built using the Canonical build system as we reach full adoption. I have had
 a chat with our head of dev and this build process cannot be applied
 retrospectively, which is not a problem as we have the build scripts.
 
 However one item has sprung to my mind as we get to make a point release for
 the 10.04 system. Back then, we were using 0.5.x of PCManFM (as were
 xubuntu), we also had tried to get pyneighborhood to work for shares (smb /
 windows, etc). but to no real joy. PCManFM 0.9.x has resolved all those
 issues.

Actually, Xubuntu has always Thunar, not PCManFM

 
 From a QA point of view, would a point release be allowed to jump from 0.5.x
 to 0.9.x which would require a couple of extra libraries. pyneighborhood
 would then be obsolete, but I am loathe to remove it as someone may be using
 it. I know that those builds do no really fall under the full rules, but I'd
 appreciate your views on the matter.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Phill.


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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 45, Issue 7

2011-07-27 Thread Marco Bassetto
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1. Join my network on LinkedIn (Nicolas Hennion via LinkedIn)
2. email (Rahul Spynet)


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 Nicolas Hennion requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:

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 I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

 Accept invitation from Nicolas Hennion
 http://www.linkedin.com/e/-wo7mir-gql1jitl-1j/90kTHGi29uCT-5uX-eBzziJLQxJ2-0uzDZMgueuk/blk/I159859709_25/1BpC5vrmRLoRZcjkkZt5YCpnlOt3RApnhMpmdzgmhxrSNBszYRcBYVc3sVdjwVdj59bSVmjl5Cq4AVbPoOcPgOdjARdzcLrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/

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 DID YOU KNOW you can showcase your professional knowledge on LinkedIn to
 receive job/consulting offers and enhance your professional reputation?
 Posting replies to questions on LinkedIn Answers puts you in front of the
 world's professional community.
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email

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Mail of Amaro MAguni, wanting to join the team

2011-07-21 Thread Amaro Hugo Jose Maguni

Hi there! 

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nVIDIA/ATI graphic cards and proprietary video drivers on Oneiric

2011-07-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Do you have a *nVIDIA* or *ATI graphics card? Do you want to help ensure
users have a smooth experience if they choose to use the proprietary
drivers?

We are looking for committed volunteers to test nVidia or ATI.
The goal of this testing is to catch regressions early in the cycle, and
fix bugs before they reach a major audience.

If you want to be part of the team you will need:

 1. A computer with an nVIDIA (GeForce 6 or newer) or ATI (R600 or
newer) graphics card
 2. A spare partition on that system
  * If you don't have a spare partition you can easily create one.
 3. One hour of your time per week
 4. An Internet connection

If you want to take part in this adventure, go to:
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Testing/ProprietaryDrivers/Oneiric/VideoDrivers
and follow the detailed instructions.

Thanks for helping making Ubuntu even better!

P.S. This project is to test the proprietary drivers. If you're
interested in testing the free drivers, we don't need installation
testing but help is always welcome. Check how at the Ubuntu X team page [1].

[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat

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Join Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha 2 ISO Testing

2011-07-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Hi everyone!

Oneiric Alpha 2 is due this week and candidate images will start
appearing hopefully tomorrow.

As usual we'll be asking everyone on the QA team to participate in the
image testing to ensure we have good test coverage.

The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures

Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if
you are new to this.

Rather than going deep and in order to make sure that there is no big
issue left behind, we'll start by running a testcase for each image
(/Install/DesktopWhole or /Install/AlternateWhole depending on the
image) and ensure that each image have at least been tested once, then
we will run the other test cases.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go
there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.

Thank you very much for your help and happy testing!

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Oneiric Ocelot Alpha2 ISO testing

2011-07-01 Thread Charlie Kravetz
Alpha2 testing is fast approaching. Unfortunately, the accessibility
portion of Oneiric is not ready for testing at this time. We have some
parts working, but much of what is used in Ubiquity is being changed.
Please do not add the accessible installation as a test for alpha2.

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Workaround field for bugs

2011-06-28 Thread Paolo Sammicheli

Hi everybody,

Unfortunately I missed the last IRC Meeting but I've seen on the log that Brian 
Murray 
informed you about his research (thanks again Brian!).

For those who don't know what I'm talking about, this is the relevant links:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugsKnownWorkAround
https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/54652

So, at moment around 10.000 bugs have information about workaround but the 
point is that 
the information is not properly exposed.

One example is the bug #753971 ( http://pad.lv/753971 )

Workarounds for this bug would be:

- Log in on Classic Mode since only Unity is affected
- Downgrade unity to 3.8.10-0ubuntu2
sudo apt-get install unity=3.8.10-0ubuntu2 unity-common=3.8.10-0ubuntu2

But the information is spread on the comments, although this is a well known 
bug in 
Natty in which many well known developers have ran into (and as far I 
understand this 
case isn't included in Brian research because there's no workaround keyword on 
the 
description).

So, my opinion is still that we need to improve the workaround exposition 
improving 
launchpad itself, but I don't know where to move the next step.

Suggestions?

Ciao!
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Re: Workaround field for bugs

2011-06-28 Thread Brian Murray
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 05:47:33PM +0200, Paolo Sammicheli wrote:
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 Unfortunately I missed the last IRC Meeting but I've seen on the log that 
 Brian Murray 
 informed you about his research (thanks again Brian!).
 
 For those who don't know what I'm talking about, this is the relevant links:
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugsKnownWorkAround
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/54652
 
 So, at moment around 10.000 bugs have information about workaround but the 
 point is that 
 the information is not properly exposed.
 
 One example is the bug #753971 ( http://pad.lv/753971 )
 
 Workarounds for this bug would be:
 
 - Log in on Classic Mode since only Unity is affected
 - Downgrade unity to 3.8.10-0ubuntu2
 sudo apt-get install unity=3.8.10-0ubuntu2 unity-common=3.8.10-0ubuntu2
 
 But the information is spread on the comments, although this is a well known 
 bug in 
 Natty in which many well known developers have ran into (and as far I 
 understand this 
 case isn't included in Brian research because there's no workaround keyword 
 on the 
 description).
 
 So, my opinion is still that we need to improve the workaround exposition 
 improving 
 launchpad itself, but I don't know where to move the next step.
 
 Suggestions?

I'd suggest creating an official bug tag for workaround and using the
tag to search for bug reports with workarounds as it is not easy to
search bug descriptions.  We could then take the list of bugs with
variations of the word 'workaround' in the bug description and tag them
with the workaround tag.  Some of this could be done automatically but
the majority would need to be done manually.  Then going forward we
could update the description with the workaround and also tag the bug
reports.

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Re: Call For Testing: Natty Firefox users (or willing to install Natty in a VM)

2011-06-20 Thread Micah Gersten
On 06/17/2011 05:59 PM, Micah Gersten wrote:

 We need Natty users to test our latest Firefox Upgrade!

 *Background:*
 Firefox 4 will not receive any more point releases, but rather Firefox
 5 is the security update for Firefox 4.0.1. Upstream Mozilla has
 changed their release process and are using a rapid release schedule. 
 We will be following this new release schedule to continue to deliver
 a secure browsing experience to our users.

 Since Natty has Firefox 4, it will start this process immediately.
 Lucid and Maverick which are on 3.6.x will be transitioning to the new
 rapid release cycle once 3.6.x has reached end of life.

 Before releasing these updates to the public, we need testing of the
 following packages:

 * firefox
 * xul-ext-webfav
 * xul-ext-mozvoikko
 * xul-ext-bindwood
 * gecko-mediaplayer
 * moonlight-plugin-core

 We have published all these packages in a PPA [1], and, for your
 convenience, have copied these updates to natty-proposed.  You can
 either enable the Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA (instructions to follow)
 or natty-proposed.  Please keep in mind, that natty-proposed might get
 you a lot of other extra packages as well.

 We need people running Natty in bare metal or a virtual machine. If
 you are willing to help, here's what you can do:

 Add the Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA to your software sources:
 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa
 or
 enable natty-proposed

 Then, you can either run update-manager or:
 sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

 Since there are very few packages, we are tracking this transition in
 bug 798484 [2].  I have added verification-needed-* tags for each of
 the packages that need testing.  If you find a bug, please file a new
 bug with all the details, then, comment with the bug # and the
 affected package name in the tracking bug [2].  If you see the
 verification-needed-* tag for a specific package, feel free to comment
 if you have tested the package and it works.  If you see a
 verification-done-* tag for a specific package, there is no need to
 comment that it works, but more testing is always appreciated.If
 you see a verification-failed-* tag for a specific package, please
 check if your bug has already been filed, if not, please file one with
 all the details and comment in the tracking bug with the bug # and the
 package name.

 Feel free to subscribe to this bug [2] to follow the progress, but be
 forewarned that you will probably get a lot of E-Mail from it.

 Please note, packages need to be tested to migrate to natty-security
 and natty-updates.

 Thanks to everyone in advance,
 Micah

 [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
 https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/798484

 P.S.  The current final Firefox 5 build and moon are currently
 finishing building on armel and will be copied to natty-proposed over
 the weekend.  The other architectures' packages are available in the
 Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA.
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 Ubuntu Security Team

I want to apologize for leaving out this piece of information.  If
you're testing in natty-proposed everything is fine.  If you're testing
from the Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA, anything that requires a language
pack will fail.  This is due to us switching to in source Firefox
language packs.  natty-proposed contains updated system language packs
which pull in the appropriate language pack from the firefox source.

Thank you,
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Call For Testing: Natty Firefox users (or willing to install Natty in a VM)

2011-06-20 Thread Micah Gersten
We need Natty users to test our latest Firefox Upgrade!

*Background:*
Firefox 4 will not receive any more point releases, but rather Firefox 5
is the security update for Firefox 4.0.1. Upstream Mozilla has changed
their release process and are using a rapid release schedule.  We will
be following this new release schedule to continue to deliver a secure
browsing experience to our users.

Since Natty has Firefox 4, it will start this process immediately. Lucid
and Maverick which are on 3.6.x will be transitioning to the new rapid
release cycle once 3.6.x has reached end of life.

Before releasing these updates to the public, we need testing of the
following packages:

* firefox
* xul-ext-webfav
* xul-ext-mozvoikko
* xul-ext-bindwood
* gecko-mediaplayer
* moonlight-plugin-core

We have published all these packages in a PPA [1], and, for your
convenience, have copied these updates to natty-proposed.  You can
either enable the Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA (instructions to follow)
or natty-proposed.  Please keep in mind, that natty-proposed might get
you a lot of other extra packages as well.

We need people running Natty in bare metal or a virtual machine. If you
are willing to help, here's what you can do:

Add the Ubuntu Mozilla Security PPA to your software sources:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa
or
enable natty-proposed

Then, you can either run update-manager or:
sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Since there are very few packages, we are tracking this transition in
bug 798484 [2].  I have added verification-needed-* tags for each of the
packages that need testing.  If you find a bug, please file a new bug
with all the details, then, comment with the bug # and the affected
package name in the tracking bug [2].  If you see the
verification-needed-* tag for a specific package, feel free to comment
if you have tested the package and it works.  If you see a
verification-done-* tag for a specific package, there is no need to
comment that it works, but more testing is always appreciated.If you
see a verification-failed-* tag for a specific package, please check if
your bug has already been filed, if not, please file one with all the
details and comment in the tracking bug with the bug # and the package name.

Feel free to subscribe to this bug [2] to follow the progress, but be
forewarned that you will probably get a lot of E-Mail from it.

Please note, packages need to be tested to migrate to natty-security and
natty-updates.

Thanks to everyone in advance,
Micah

[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/798484

P.S.  The current final Firefox 5 build and moon are currently finishing
building on armel and will be copied to natty-proposed over the
weekend.  The other architectures' packages are available in the Ubuntu
Mozilla Security PPA.

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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 44, Issue 6

2011-06-07 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement

Hi Jason,

On 06/07/2011 04:45 AM, Jason Odoom wrote:

Jean-Babtise,

  So the observations from the tests are marked on the Wiki? I tested in
VM and don't know where to place my information.
This wiki page is a summary of the results found during Alpha 1 testing 
which is over.


Alpha 1 testing was last week, and Alpha 2 will start on July 5th for a 
release scheduled on July 7th 
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule)


If you're testing an Oneiric milestone (Alphas, Betas or RC ...), you'll 
find the testing procedure and how to report the results at 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures . The results are 
reported on Launchpad and linked to the tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/


If you're testing the daily builds (daily images are available from 
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/) then file a report on launchpad for any 
issue you may find.


If you have any question or need support in testing, you can join 
#ubuntu-testing on freenode.


Thanks for your help in testing Ubuntu


With all due respect,



Jason Odoom
https://launchpad.net/~jasonodoom https://launchpad.net/%7Ejasonodoom
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JasonOdoom

Sent from Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop.





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Re: Join Ubuntu Oneiric Alpha 1 Laptop Testing

2011-06-07 Thread njin
Il giorno lun, 06/06/2011 alle 12.45 +0200, Sergio Zanchetta ha scritto:
 Hi everybody!
 
 Oneiric Alpha 1 is out and ready to be tested in your laptop.
 
 If you want to be sure your graphic/audio card, touchpad or whatever
 work when Oneiric will be released on October 13th join us in the
 Laptop Testing Project.
 You can discover every early bug to allow developers enough time to
 fix those bugs in time for the Official Release.
 
 The procedures for testing images and reporting results are explained
 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Procedures
 
 Test results will be tracked on http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/
 
 Bugs have to be reported in the Ubuntu bug tracker (see
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs)
 
 If you are new to this please register on the tracker, one account per
 laptop you own.
 Remember that you don’t have to if you already tested a laptop last
 cycle or have an account for ISO testing.
 
 Please let us know if you have any questions, in #ubuntu-testing IRC
 channel on the Freenode network.
 
 Good testing!
 
 
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