Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers
On 03/10/2007, Matthew Daubney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Harrison wrote: I have a number of mates who install home automation stuff (web control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.) Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the home control servers because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully! For my home servers, I use some Via ITX stuff from www.linitx.com M. Ok lads and ladies, I've been giving this some thought now. I can't afford a new server machine, and probably shouldn't be running this monster 24/7. Digging around, in my price range is a Linksys NSLU2 (about £60..) which can be reflashed with Debian. I reckon that this would be enough (with a SATA to USB case for one of the drives) to do what I need the server to do... would this be a better solution? I had a look on ebay at laptops but most of them seem to be a con and not have HDD's/Power Supplies, both of which are relativley expensive. I'm open to any idea's on better solutions too! HBS [http://www.hbs.uk.com/] is the place I got my cheap laptop from. I'm not sure if they have a nationwide contract with local services but they do with Lincoln City Council. Might be worth asking your local Council for a contact. Philip -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release
yes i have seen this one.will the stable release be at the same time as gutsy comes out, oct 10? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:39:25 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release On Wednesday 03 October 2007 13:37:29 STONE COLD wrote: hi, Just wanted to know if anyone can tell me when a stable version based on gutsy will be released? ive looked everywhere and cant see it! cheers Well, the public beta's just been released http://www.mythbuntu.org/node/67 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release
On 04/10/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes i have seen this one.will the stable release be at the same time as gutsy comes out, oct 10? Gutsy's coming out on the 18th, not the 10th. Try looking around the Mythbuntu site to see their release schedule. I'm sure that mythbuntu's stable release won't be out *before* gutsy. :-) Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
On 03/10/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats right...i want to watch them on a dvd player which doesnt play the avi format! ill try devede! I think that's a second problem. The main one, as Popey said is that your drive doesn't support the media format on the disk you inserted. Try a different blank DVD, or one from another manufacturer. Then post any error messages you get again, or look for the Wrong medium type error again. Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help
On 03/10/2007, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 16:00 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 03/10/2007, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] So just edit your sources.list and make sure the entry for feisty-backports is enabled then you can just do a dist-upgrade and you'll get it. You can also do this through the Software Sources application on the System Administration menu, if you don't like the command-line. Not usually on a server :) I am only guessing that it's a server based on the subject line ;) Yep. I was aware of that. Maybe I should have said it was off-topic or just for reference. The reason I posted is that I see lots of reviews of Ubuntu that say you have to use the command-line to do anything. So whenever there's a GUI equivalent, I like to point it out. Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
ok ill try that! Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:02:41 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems. On 03/10/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats right...i want to watch them on a dvd player which doesnt play the avi format! ill try devede! I think that's a second problem. The main one, as Popey said is that your drive doesn't support the media format on the disk you inserted. Try a different blank DVD, or one from another manufacturer. Then post any error messages you get again, or look for the Wrong medium type error again. Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
I think that's a second problem. The main one, as Popey said is that your drive doesn't support the media format on the disk you inserted. Be that as it may, in order to read the video it will be necessary to convert the .avi file into .iso file. If in doubt look it up on Google. DeVeDe is very slow and may not be the only way to get what is needed Try a different blank DVD, or one from another manufacturer. Then post any error messages you get again, or look for the Wrong medium type error again. That's a good idea but watch out for the over complications and red herrings. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
devede is indeed slow..know of anything faster that will convert to iso? I will try a different media... when using the cd/dvd creator default program i get an error message along the lines of unexpected handle. well handle something anyway! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:30:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.I think that's a second problem.The main one, as Popey said is that your drive doesn't support the media format on the disk you inserted. Be that as it may, in order to read the video it will be necessary to convert the .avi file into .iso file. If in doubt look it up on Google. DeVeDe is very slow and may not be the only way to get what is needed Try a different blank DVD, or one from another manufacturer. Then post any error messages you get again, or look for the Wrong medium type error again. That's a good idea but watch out for the over complications and red herrings. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 12:37 +, STONE COLD wrote: hi, Just wanted to know if anyone can tell me when a stable version based on gutsy will be released? ive looked everywhere and cant see it! cheers Hi, We are currently looking to release 'final' Monday 22nd October. There is a dedicated mailing list[0] for ubuntu-mythtv related discussion or a Mythbuntu forum[1]. As it's currently in 'Beta', it shouldn't change too much - just potential bug fixes. Feel free to try it and report any bugs. [0] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-mythtv [1] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301 Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
DeVeDe is indeed very slow. I use it quite a lot, but I have come to the point where I am writing my own simple script to do the same job. I can't say yet that it will be any faster... video transcoding involves a great amount of processing. However I do have this feeling that DeVeDe takes a lot longer than it should. I can share the script when I have it working. Apologies for the top-post :-) Matthew. On 04/10/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: devede is indeed slow..know of anything faster that will convert to iso? I will try a different media... when using the cd/dvd creator default program i get an error message along the lines of unexpected handle. well handle something anyway! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:30:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems. I think that's a second problem.The main one, as Popey said is that your drive doesn't support the media format on the disk you inserted. Be that as it may, in order to read the video it will be necessary to convert the .avi file into .iso file. If in doubt look it up on Google. DeVeDe is very slow and may not be the only way to get what is neededTry a different blank DVD, or one from another manufacturer. Then post any error messages you get again, or look for the Wrong medium type error again. That's a good idea but watch out for the over complications and red herrings. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
yes please do share the script...also how to use it would be nice! Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:32:37 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems. DeVeDe is indeed very slow. I use it quite a lot, but I have come to the point where I am writing my own simple script to do the same job. I can't say yet that it will be any faster... video transcoding involves a great amount of processing. However I do have this feeling that DeVeDe takes a lot longer than it should. I can share the script when I have it working. Apologies for the top-post :-) Matthew. On 04/10/2007, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: devede is indeed slow..know of anything faster that will convert to iso? I will try a different media... when using the cd/dvd creator default program i get an error message along the lines of unexpected handle. well handle something anyway! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:30:14 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems. I think that's a second problem.The main one, as Popey said is that your drive doesn't support the media format on the disk you inserted. Be that as it may, in order to read the video it will be necessary to convert the .avi file into .iso file. If in doubt look it up on Google. DeVeDe is very slow and may not be the only way to get what is neededTry a different blank DVD, or one from another manufacturer. Then post any error messages you get again, or look for the Wrong medium type error again. That's a good idea but watch out for the over complications and red herrings. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release
can i ask, will my remote which came with my case , thermaltake mozart sx, work with mythbuntu? how can i find out if it will? Can mythbuntu like WinMC be used as a media centre and a stand alone desktop pc? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:46:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 12:37 +, STONE COLD wrote: hi,Just wanted to know if anyone can tell me when a stable version based on gutsy will be released?ive looked everywhere and cant see it! cheers Hi, We are currently looking to release 'final' Monday 22nd October. There is a dedicated mailing list[0] for ubuntu-mythtv related discussion or a Mythbuntu forum[1]. As it's currently in 'Beta', it shouldn't change too much - just potential bug fixes. Feel free to try it and report any bugs. [0] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-mythtv [1] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301 Kind Regards, Dave Walker-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 10:05 +, STONE COLD wrote: can i ask, will my remote which came with my case , thermaltake mozart sx, work with mythbuntu? how can i find out if it will? Can mythbuntu like WinMC be used as a media centre and a stand alone desktop pc? Hey, Can you try and avoid 'top-posting'? Google suggests your remote will work; but I can't personally confirm as I don't have the 'Mozart' - feel free to buy me one, then i can test for you. :) Mythbuntu Control Centre can add a standard Ubuntu desktop as an option. Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Testing a machine with a Live CD
On 03/10/2007, David Morley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03/10/2007, Stephen Drake wrote: On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 15:55 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: Hi all, What programs do people run on a new machine that's booted off the Live CD to check that everything is working/supported? Hwyl, Neil. I tend to go through the example content, trying out each of the files with their respective default programs, OpenOffice.org, Movie Player (Totem) etc. I also open Firefox to test network connection and name resolution. Maybe glxgears too, if there's a graphics card + free driver. There have been a few pages about testing in the wiki for a while now. One aimed specifically at laptops, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting and another at ISO testing for alpha milestone releases, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO Recently there seems to have been an re-organisation in the wiki to promote more testing. Until I looked a few minutes ago, I didn't even know there was a testing team https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing Steve Try the following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/UbuntuDesktop You would have thought, with the subject I picked, that I would have considered looking at the Testing pages on the wiki... Ho hum! Maybe that's why they call it the lazyweb. :-) Thanks for the suggestions both. Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release
sorry i forgot bout the topposting! thank you for answering my q! cool From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:13:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 10:05 +, STONE COLD wrote: can i ask, will my remote which came with my case , thermaltake mozart sx, work with mythbuntu? how can i find out if it will?Can mythbuntu like WinMC be used as a media centre and a stand alone desktop pc? Hey, Can you try and avoid 'top-posting'? Google suggests your remote will work; but I can't personally confirm as I don't have the 'Mozart' - feel free to buy me one, then i can test for you. :) Mythbuntu Control Centre can add a standard Ubuntu desktop as an option. Kind Regards, Dave Walker-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
no of course i dont take it personally. i know your intention is to help! I set devede last night...it converted to the MPEG format! i thought i converted it to iso. In any case it converted a 900mb avi file to a 4.4gb mpeg file. Go figure! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:17:07 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems. yes please do share the script...also how to use it would be nice! Please do not take what I am going to write as in any way getting at you personally but, I have been here from the time the list started and I have always been led to believe that the best way to get help is first try to help yourself. Google is always a good place to start and work on from there. It's either that or have patience, set up DeVeDe and go to bed. It will be done by morning. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
yes please do share the script...also how to use it would be nice! Please do not take what I am going to write as in any way getting at you personally but, I have been here from the time the list started and I have always been led to believe that the best way to get help is first try to help yourself. Google is always a good place to start and work on from there. It's either that or have patience, set up DeVeDe and go to bed. It will be done by morning. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.
On 10/4/07, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no of course i dont take it personally. i know your intention is to help! I set devede last night...it converted to the MPEG format! i thought i converted it to iso. It does make an ISO if you tell it to. It has 3 options... create a video file, create some directories to put on a DVD, or make an ISO, which just means it is packed into a single file that can be burnt to a DVD easily. In any case it converted a 900mb avi file to a 4.4gb mpeg file. Go figure! Yes, it has to convert the file to a format suitable for a DVD player. These files do tend to be quite large. As for the script, I am testing it now, and it's *very very* simple, don't worry :) Matthew. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small TFT monitors....
** Tony Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-03 02:03]: Paul Tansom wrote: [...] If you're wanting to have a play and/or are willing to take a risk (I've not checked the status recently) I seem to remember that the Linux BIOS project was able to run from a serial console. I keep thinking of trying it myself, but haven't had the time or spare motherboard to experiment with yet. Hello, Paul. Nice idea, but I'm too scared :-) I really can't afford to stuff up the BIOS on these servers! Ditto, and my production servers are just a pair of Celeron 533 boxes! - just my business and the family to support, so perfectly adequate for the job :) Since sending the email I've taken another look at their site and there seems to be a very small number of tested motherboards, and they seem to be from manufacturers like Tyan where you do wonder what the benefit would be (bar ideological) since I believe this would already be supported on many Tyan boards! [...] Any ideas how easy it is to do this using USB to USB? The traditional serial console is likely to be replaced in the not to distant future. I know it can be done, at least at one end, so probably at both. I've not investigated the sort of USB cable required though - either just one with the correct connections at each end, or a USB data transfer cable (as used for laplink and the like). I'm the wrong person to ask about that, because I can't even get my USB to RS232 adapter working under Linux: I only use it under Windows XP... I've not tried at all yet, although again, since my post, I've taken a look around and been quite interested in some USB to multiple serial ports cables that I've seen. That would do me for now given the age of my existing hardware - although since they do support USB as well I guess USB to USB would be the longer term solution :) I used an 'old' laptop with an RS232 port for this job previously, but I replaced it when its LCD display died. Having RS232 wasn't at the top of my list for a new laptop: Got an HP Pavilion dv5000 and a USB to RS232 adapter instead! Yes that's been on my todo list for a while, just never high enough to actually do it. It is undoubtedly (in theory, ignoring unexpected gotchas) fairly simple to do, but equally I've always found another way around things (or been lucky enough to always have a spare monitor and keyboard handy). ** end quote [Tony Travis] -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Ladies and Gentlemen, I noticed these preview shots of Windows Home Server. http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/whs_screens_01.asp I'm sure most of you will agree that Ubuntu is probably pretty well placed to operate as a serious competitor to this product and wondered if anyone has any ideas about this? Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release
On Thursday 04 October 2007 11:28, STONE COLD wrote: sorry i forgot bout the topposting! thank you for answering my q! cool From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:13:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 10:05 +, STONE COLD wrote: can i ask, will my remote which came with my case , thermaltake mozart sx, work with mythbuntu? how can i find out if it will?Can mythbuntu like WinMC be used as a media centre and a stand alone desktop pc? Hey, Can you try and avoid 'top-posting'? Google suggests your remote will work; but I can't personally confirm as I don't have the 'Mozart' - feel free to buy me one, then i can test for you. :) Mythbuntu Control Centre can add a standard Ubuntu desktop as an option. Kind Regards, Dave Walker LOL, genius ;-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Diskless Workstations
Hi-de-hi Campers With all the postings relating to home servers and small screens got me thinking. Is there such a thing as a diskless workstation that looks for all intents and purposes like a laptop, ie combined screen, keyboard and mouse pad, but without HDD battery and other associated mobile type stuff? I've only ever found / seen those that look like a standard desktop installation, ie all seperate, but not combined. Yes I realise I can get a second hand lappie and do this but I've never seen one from new - or maybe just haven't got the Google search criteria right Cheers E -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diskless Workstations
Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi-de-hi Campers With all the postings relating to home servers and small screens got me thinking. Is there such a thing as a diskless workstation that looks for all intents and purposes like a laptop, ie combined screen, keyboard and mouse pad, but without HDD battery and other associated mobile type stuff? I've only ever found / seen those that look like a standard desktop installation, ie all seperate, but not combined. Yes I realise I can get a second hand lappie and do this but I've never seen one from new - or maybe just haven't got the Google search criteria right Cheers E If you just want a keyboard, trackball and monitor that you will wire into a pc, HP do make rackmount units but they are not cheap. If you are on about a dumb terminal type thing Igel and Wyse make boxs for this sort of purpose Cheers Robin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
This would be a great idea. It would really boost the profile of Ubuntu and it's accessibility functionality. I think this would be well worth the work. On 04/10/2007, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi y'all Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the leading technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / international charities. SNIP This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy projects we should be doing. I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then estimate actual costs. Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few days. * a supply of the then current distributions * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats SNIP There is _some_ documentation already written [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm sure that team knows requirements better than most. I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at this event? Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential fund-raising to cover the costs associated. Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi y'all Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the leading technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / international charities. What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. However, having now sat down and actually worked out what's going to be involved, it has got rather scary. Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration * a supply of the then current distributions * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats * find a copious supply of hot beverages * increase my knowledge of Ubuntu from the surface scratchings I have to a damn good gouge. Now, there's plenty of time until July, and exhibitors registration doesn't need to be completed until 31/01/08, but I'll be honest and say it seems rather daunting. I've got ideas how to deal with most of the above points, but wondered if this'd be a good project for the Loco team? Thoughts and comments gratefully received. E -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diskless Workstations
Did a quick google search and churned up http://www.devonit.com/terminals/terminals_models_features.php NTA 6027L NTA 8027L models both have intergrated 17inch lcd panels quote from linux devices : Devon IT Inc. has embedded an optimized version of Red Hat Linux in a line of low-cost thin-client terminals ranging from the entry-level Ntavo NTA 6010A priced at $149, to the $599 NTA 6015L that boasts an integrated 15-inch, 1024x668 TFT LCD screen. full article : http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT5307375514.html - Kris Findlay aka azmodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Abertay Linux Society / TayLUG - -- Umbrella Corporation :- They are the fear within all of that there is a company. The Corporation controlling everything that is Umbrella. A combination of Microsoft and the US Military. At some level there is a board of directors who meet once a month and decide all of our fates. -- Jeremy Bolt - Producer - Resident Evil : Apocalypse -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi y'all Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the leading technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / international charities. SNIP This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy projects we should be doing. I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then estimate actual costs. Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few days. * a supply of the then current distributions * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats SNIP There is _some_ documentation already written [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm sure that team knows requirements better than most. I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at this event? Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential fund-raising to cover the costs associated. Kind Regards, Dave Walker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi y'all Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the leading technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / international charities. What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. That is a *really* good idea. Have you contacted the Ubuntu-Accessibility team? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Team HTH John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel I think the most interesting thing is that Windows Home Server is designed for people who aren't uber techie. It's aimed at the knowledgeable enthusiast market. That's kinda what I meant I saw Ubuntu as a potential replacement for (perhaps with a bit of configuration etc). Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 04 October 2007 17:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server Hi David, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 16:41 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Is this a joke? If by joke you mean yet another version of windows which has a subtly different set of tools installed than other versions already available, then yes, it's a belter that Jimmy Tarbuck would be proud of! Ubuntu with webmin (if you want to be more serious) on it or running gnome with some utilities would be a hell of a lot better than this. Shame webmin is no longer maintained in debian or (hence) ubuntu. There is of course the Ubuntu server project which (AIUI) uses ebox for it's admin core which could certainly do _some_ of what this does. Setting up a home server on Ubuntu isn't actually that hard. We have RAID for redundancy built in, LVM for disk space extension, SMB and NFS for sharing, backup software, mail servers and webservers, and remote access tools too. It just needs all tying together really in once neat package which is pretty much what Microsoft have done with Home Server. This is a very basic server, something you should be able to run on an old box not running a new machine. Heh. Yeah. I have a server at home. Well technically I have two. One runs ipcop and that's my DHCP, DNS, (transparent) proxy, and all round gateway to the web. The other is running Ubuntu as a file server, ssh server (to let me get into the house via ssh when I am not at home) and backup server. It also holds my local copy of the Ubuntu repos so that all my machines update from that. Both are old Dell desktops of this spec:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo cpu MHz : 398.801 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 190972 kB Sweet! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
On 04/10/2007, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would be a great idea. It would really boost the profile of Ubuntu and it's accessibility functionality. I think this would be well worth the work. On 04/10/2007, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi y'all Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the leading technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / international charities. SNIP This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy projects we should be doing. I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then estimate actual costs. Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few days. * a supply of the then current distributions * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats SNIP There is _some_ documentation already written [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm sure that team knows requirements better than most. I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at this event? Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential fund-raising to cover the costs associated. Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry everyone, that was a top-post for Britain :) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hey Ian, * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm happy to do that * a supply of the then current distributions Happy to do that too * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats I'm happy to help make this leaflet * find a copious supply of hot beverages Kettle + teabags, I have a teapot :-) Basically, count me in. Regards, -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
If there is anything I can do as well, I happy for any number of my machines to be used but I am in Perth. Regards, Daniel _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Douglas Sent: 04 October 2007 18:53 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal This would be a great idea. It would really boost the profile of Ubuntu and it's accessibility functionality. I think this would be well worth the work. On 04/10/2007, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi y'all Before I ask for Popey's help to put this onto his Ideas Pool, I thought I'd run it by the list and see what your feed back was. Every year the Queen Alexandra College for the Blind in Birmingham runs an exhibition called Sight Village, which is the leading technology showcase for the bisually impaired and associated support groups throughout Europe - these groups being both Government bodies and local / national / international charities. SNIP This sounds like a wonderful idea, this is exactly the kind of advocacy projects we should be doing. I would suggest we first look at exactly what needs to be produced, then estimate actual costs. Putting cost aside for the stand for the moment, I need to: * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I'm sure a few machines shouldn't be too difficult to obtain for a few days. * a supply of the then current distributions * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats SNIP There is _some_ documentation already written [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc]. I'm sure we could work with ubuntu-accessibility to produce the necessary documentation, as i'm sure that team knows requirements better than most. I wouldn't imagine producing braille format and auto dictation (via Audio-CD) would be too difficult. It's certainly something I can see being mutually beneficial to the ubuntu-accessibility team aswell. Do you happen to know how much it costs to register, to have a stand, at this event? Once we have a compiled list of costs, we can look into potential fund-raising to cover the costs associated. Kind Regards, Dave Walker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Windows is boring and to easy, plus if there was an easy install for Ubuntu on a samba server then more would adopt it (which is in 7.10), but I think people will get scared off by the commandline versions as they wont understand that it can be administered remotely. Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel I think the most interesting thing is that Windows Home Server is designed for people who aren't uber techie. It's aimed at the knowledgeable enthusiast market. That's kinda what I meant I saw Ubuntu as a potential replacement for (perhaps with a bit of configuration etc). Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. Hey there folks, Are the assistive technologies in Ubuntu any good? I seem to remember a post a few months ago where there was a discussion regarding the issues a partially sighted user was having with Ubuntu. I'll try and dig it up. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Ah but most people who work in IT only use Windows Servers and Desktops so I'm guessing it'd be a natural extension of that for them to buy into a Windows Home Server for their backups, DVDs etc ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Ah but most people who work in IT only use Windows Servers and Desktops so I'm guessing it'd be a natural extension of that for them to buy into a Windows Home Server for their backups, DVDs etc ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
I'm about to start playing with an old Qube. I'm not sure how many of the people on this lists would have heard of them - but I'll post a review once I'm done. They're old linux technology - but a similar software based approach for ubuntu server is, I think, what we all want :) On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:28:34 +0100, Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But most knowledgeable enthusiasts would rather have a linux box something to be proud of!! Windows is boring and to easy, plus if there was an easy install for Ubuntu on a samba server then more would adopt it (which is in 7.10), but I think people will get scared off by the commandline versions as they wont understand that it can be administered remotely. Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server By joke I meant more along the lines of what a brilliant idea, a home server that backs up pcs and stores files on the network, wait actually is that not basically what nas does and doesn't need a full pc, or for us more technically minded what we can do with an old cardboard box, some motherboard your uncle was chucking out and some half decent sized hard drives? Lol. I must apologies about webmin, I had not realize, I am looking at ebox now. Regards, Daniel I think the most interesting thing is that Windows Home Server is designed for people who aren't uber techie. It's aimed at the knowledgeable enthusiast market. That's kinda what I meant I saw Ubuntu as a potential replacement for (perhaps with a bit of configuration etc). Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Regards, Daniel Well I suppose it depends on where you work I guess. I work for a reasonably large (130 staff or so looking after mabey 5000 desktops and a couple of hundred servers) IT department which has (unfortunately) standardised on Windows. I reckon less than 5% of them would use Linux in any form :-( In fact I think the only Linux servers that are used, are ones I look after! I've had to stop talking about it at service meetings etc though as people's eyes glaze over. At least I have you guys as an outlet though ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. -- Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Hi Daniel, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 19:50 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Do you work on the Planet Tux perchance? :) Back here on planet Earth I find it surprising how many people know about Linux, and even more surprising how many people know about and even use Ubuntu. However in all the customers I have been to over the last say 2 years I still encounter plenty of Microsofties in the IT industry. I guess everyone has different experience, but to suggest that everyone who works in IT would be happy with a Linux box at home is possibly pushing it a bit :) The home server is indeed a nice idea. I know of plenty of people who have issues that could be made easier with one of them. People don't backup, don't have remote access to their machines, don't store files centrally. This kind of thing would be perfect for them. Of course those of us who work in IT can roll our own systems and put them in to peoples homes and offices, but there's nothing quite like a boxed solution to these things is there? Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:09 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. Pretty much already done:- https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-easy-business-server https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ebox :) The plan is for Ubuntu to release a server product which achieves many of the goals for a small office / home office product, with an easy to use admin tool. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Haha well talk away, my clients love talking about linux, they don't understand this whole opensource/free thing, think its mental even though I have explained about support etc. Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 04 October 2007 19:57 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server I work in IT in predominately windows environments and I don't know anyone who would not be delighted to use linux servers at home. Regards, Daniel Well I suppose it depends on where you work I guess. I work for a reasonably large (130 staff or so looking after mabey 5000 desktops and a couple of hundred servers) IT department which has (unfortunately) standardised on Windows. I reckon less than 5% of them would use Linux in any form :-( In fact I think the only Linux servers that are used, are ones I look after! I've had to stop talking about it at service meetings etc though as people's eyes glaze over. At least I have you guys as an outlet though ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. Sounds great to me, count me in. * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I don't think that's a problem. I suspect that you could get one or more in fact. * a supply of the then current distributions That would be Hardy Heron - 8.04 which would be an LTS release. By then there would be media available. * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats Ooo, like that idea. We also have a screencast that has subtitles :) * increase my knowledge of Ubuntu from the surface scratchings I have to a damn good gouge. I'm sure we can help with that too! Winner. Now, there's plenty of time until July, and exhibitors registration doesn't need to be completed until 31/01/08, but I'll be honest and say it seems rather daunting. I'd say it's pretty damned easy for us to achieve if we work together actually. I've got ideas how to deal with most of the above points, but wondered if this'd be a good project for the Loco team? Definitely. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Not really as both are web based utilites I mean just a stripped out Ubuntu with just samba and backup configuration tool any maybe a little more. I think ebox and easy business server are brilliant for me and you but not for joe public, who wants something easy to use, and linux gives them something to be proud of. Back to my comment about everyone, obviously not everyone but noone has a bad word to say about linux and would try it don't meet many folk who like Microsoft, just the people who are doing a job not actually into computers its cool to use linux!! And its cool to be a geek!! Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 04 October 2007 20:20 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:09 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. Pretty much already done:- https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-easy-business-serv er https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ebox :) The plan is for Ubuntu to release a server product which achieves many of the goals for a small office / home office product, with an easy to use admin tool. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Guys I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Alan can you contact me off list to talk through the web stuff please? Chris R - I know the post you refer to and I referred him onto the Orca mailling list which he now participates on. I am aware of the Ubuntu Accessability mailling list but haven't done anything there as yet as they're up to their knees in sorting out the Gibbon at the moment. Chris D - yep accessability is firing on all cylinders at the moment including the speech recognition which was the main downfall of Linux until this Summer's Google Summer of Code. For interested parties, it's only available through Gnome for the short to medium term. DaveW - haven't got the costs yet, but they should be out in the next month or so. I know there's a couple of sound engineering types on the list, would you be able to offer any help on the audio recording side if things started to rock and roll? E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 04 October 2007 20:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 18:14 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: What I was thinking of doing was running a stand there for the three days - starting Tues 15/07/08 I think - demonstrating Ubuntu together with it's Assistive Technologies in use. Sounds great to me, count me in. * get a loan of at least one laptop / desktop for the duration I don't think that's a problem. I suspect that you could get one or more in fact. * a supply of the then current distributions That would be Hardy Heron - 8.04 which would be an LTS release. By then there would be media available. * an installation guide to Ubuntu with Assistive Technologies activated, in printed, braille and audio formats Ooo, like that idea. We also have a screencast that has subtitles :) * increase my knowledge of Ubuntu from the surface scratchings I have to a damn good gouge. I'm sure we can help with that too! Winner. Now, there's plenty of time until July, and exhibitors registration doesn't need to be completed until 31/01/08, but I'll be honest and say it seems rather daunting. I'd say it's pretty damned easy for us to achieve if we work together actually. I've got ideas how to deal with most of the above points, but wondered if this'd be a good project for the Loco team? Definitely. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
This is not an actual proposal but, while those unfortunate people with handicaps are being considered, what about all those lovely videos being promoted to the hard of hearing? Just a thought. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get cash for exhibiting etc? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Could you not sell off ubuntu merchandise? Make t-shirts, cds with support by us(we would need a system for it) but if we sold cds for say £50 and gave 3 months support(enough time for them to setup their machine, install printers etc) then that money could be reinvested into advertising and events like this! Regards, daniel Original message From: Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4 Oct 2007 1:17pm -07:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get cash for exhibiting etc? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Ian, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:34 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Alan can you contact me off list to talk through the web stuff please? Incoming! :) Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Hi Chris, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 21:17 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: I'll take this as a positive acceptance of the idea - thanks for all the offers of support up to and including the tea pot Matthew! Cool :-D This sounds like a very admirable project. Has anyone got any ideas about how this could be funded? How does the loco usually get cash for exhibiting etc? Now there's a can of worms. So far Ubuntu-UK as a group hasn't had to fund anything. Individuals have paid for things in the past, but we as a group have not yet had to handle money. Other LoCos (notably France and Germany) have sought donations and have used that money to fund their activities - running stands at shows, making t-shirts, leaflets and CDs. They have done this very successfully it would seem, and are keen to get other LoCos doing similar things, or joining them with what they do. This is currently under heavy discussion on the LoCo mailing list, and will likely be discussed further at various levels within Ubuntu infrastructure. Pnce we know what the costs involved are we can figure out what to do. Getting my crystal ball out, I have a hunch that some people will donate time, laptops, lifts, funds and yes, even coffee and biscuits to get something like this going, so I'd say for now we don't necessarily need to worry too much about how we (as in the LoCo team) fund it. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Home Server
Alan Pope wrote: Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:09 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:03 +0100, Daniel Lamb wrote: Could Ubuntu not develop a more user friendly home server ie just with samba and maybe amanada or bacula for backups? Not all the extras. What I think would be great is if the server just sits there, being serverish, but you have a graphical manager for almost everything (HTTP, FTP, SAMBA, DHCP, netboot etc), but this isn't run on the server. It's run on a client, and this administrator communicates with the server, sending simple commands, perhaps hell commands over SSH. Comments? If people like it, I'll make an LP blueprint. Pretty much already done:- https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-easy-business-server https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ebox :) The plan is for Ubuntu to release a server product which achieves many of the goals for a small office / home office product, with an easy to use admin tool. Cheers, Al. The Ubuntu Easy Business Server sounds good. One of my servers (mail server running on VMWare on Ubuntu Server) is running SME Server (www.smeserver.org / www.contribs.org) which when I first started using it did everything I needed it to (mail server with webmail/imap mail, Samba file sharing to Windows machines / XBOX, printer sharing, proxy server to share internet access). I've found two things that really get on my nerves - one it's based on CentOS which although isn't a major thing, I really can't get on well with YUM (or anything based on RPM), and secondly it generally needs a reboot every time it has an update (it updates itself in the background but won't reboot itself and sometimes this causes big problems with the web interface etc). Now this Ubuntu server sounds like the sort of thing I'd certainly want to migrate to. I've spoken to a couple of people before who have expressed an interest in a PC which could be used to store media etc, one guy at work for instance wanted a box which he could put under the stairs, connect up a 250GB external USB hard drive and be able to access it from his laptop and store pictures, music and video on it and maybe password protect bits of it, where as someone like my dad would like to have a machine which he can store his business e-mails/documents on and access them on his laptop when he's away (over the internet). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Project Proposal
Whilst my linux experience is limited to setup, configuration and use i would like to be of use in any other way. I have 2 spare 1.2ghz laptops which you would be more than welcome to use if needed. regards Rhys -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Theory Test CDs in Ubuntu
Hi, Does any1 have any experience of running the theory test and hazard perception cds in ubuntu. I can get the theory test cd working fine via wine...but i cant get the hazard perception to work. i checked and the videos in the hazard perception cd are in mpg format which play fine in vlc. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Theory Test CDs in Ubuntu
Does any1 have any experience of running the theory test and hazard perception cds in ubuntu. I can get the theory test cd working fine via wine...but i cant get the hazard perception to work. i checked and the videos in the hazard perception cd are in mpg format which play fine in vlc. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Just a thought, try Avidemux you may get a surprise. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Tag Lines?
* “Ubuntu: upgrade your computer twice a year, for free, forever”
* “Ubuntu: makes your computer work properly”
* “Ubuntu: it's your choice, dammit!”
* “Ubuntu: hippies make good software”
* “Ubuntu: commies make good software”
We're probably gonna have to advertise negatively against Windows,
because most people don't know what an operating system is—they don't
realise they have a choice:
* “Ubuntu: makes Windows look really, really rubbish”
* “Ubuntu: Don't you just *love* Windows? Yay Microsoft!”
* “Ubuntu: Windows is hopeless”
* “Ubuntu: we actually improve it ever”
* “Ubuntu: *not* made by Microsoft”
* “Ubuntu: better than Windows, like how Firefox was better than IE”
I think comparing Ubuntu to Firefox might be a good tactic (as long as
Mozilla don't complain too hard). Or we could just plagiarise Mastercard:
* “Upgrading Windows: £100; Upgrading Mac OS X: £89; Upgrading to
Ubuntu: priceless”
* “Windows: £100; OS X: £89; freedom: priceless (oh, and it's free too)”
Or Magnatune:
* “Ubuntu: we are not evil”
Ooh! How about:
* “Ubuntu: a free man's Mac”
—then we'll get all the Mac zealots saying Ubuntu isn't comparable to OS
X because it doesn't {foo} and then everyone will like Ubuntu because of
their utter disdain for precious zealots. (Besides, Apple are always
making jibes at Microsoft, so they're fair game.)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Theory Test CDs in Ubuntu
Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 20:57 +, STONE COLD wrote: I can get the theory test cd working fine via wine...but i cant get the hazard perception to work. i checked and the videos in the hazard perception cd are in mpg format which play fine in vlc. What else is on it? If you run this command:- find /media/cdrom ~/cdcontents.txt (with the cdrom in the drive) You'll get a file called cdcontents.txt in your home directory which contains a list of all files on the disk. If we see that we can take a guess at maybe how to get it running. I would recommend you open that text file and _DONT_ email it to the list if it's really big. Just paste it into our pastebin:- http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/ And then reply to this mail with the link you get (there will be a number on the end). Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
