Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
On 8/26/04 11:58 PM, Jay Madren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know you can select multiple entries, but it's not a easy, quick way to select a lot of entries. In my example, to select all versions except the 2.5 ones, you have to individually select the 18 non-2.5 choices from the version popup. I don't know of anyone who wants to sit there and do that. Agreed. So what's needed is a feature like the one on bugzilla (which is really just a feature of popups/dropdowns in web forms), where you can shift-click to select a whole range of choices. If that's not easy to do, then maybe a checkbox or button to invert the selection, e.g., select the 2.5 choices, then select invert which would invert or reverse the checkmarks on all entries in that field. Let me think about that - how to best implement it. I'm leaning towards something like option-click the popup and everything's selected - then choose the items you want to remove from the popup. Another feature which would also help alleviate this tedious multiple-selection problem would be the ability to save search criteria. So then I could just call up a saved search, maybe modify it a little, and run it. Of course, this is a worthy feature on its own, no matter if you fix the multiple selection problem or not. Nice suggestion! I'll add it to the feature list... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
little homepage: a glimpse into libNetServices.
Hi Folks, I am now in the process of making final documentation and code patches so I can release libNetServices. I made this new little homepage to show some pictures and talk a little about my new NCon stack, which stands for Network Console stack, it's like a distributed console where remote apps can send their log outputs. It's very handy when debugging three stacks running on different machines across a network for example... all your logs, there... if anyone is curious, just point your browser too: http://homepage.mac.com/soapdog/rev/libNetServices.html this will change... many things to add, like a full manual... Cheers andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Altuit releases MagicCarpet (finally!)
Hey all, just thought I'd let you know we just released our latest product- MagicCarpet. It runs on both MacOSX and WinXP. I am using it since RMS... it rocks Now, when I look at CVS, it makes me sad :D Thanks for the app! andre -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
1. It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug. This is essential to me, I cannot use revzilla until this is done. Also the ability to mark the bug reopened/verified/or fix. If Revzilla can fix the bug for me even better:-) Tuviah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032
Try this: Make a button 128 pixels square. Give it a big icon (I used 803). Then: set the margins of btn 1 to 40 set the topmargin of btn 1 to 60 set the textcolor of btn 1 to blue set the textstyle of btn 1 to bold set the textsize of btn 1 to 20 On my Mac, I get a blue label over the picture (not behind it) and the icon is vertically centered (well, close. Play with the numbers.) Seems that we need vertical alignment (verticalalignment, valignment property) options (bottom, top, centered) which get applied regardless of the image. This is the easiest way. We would also need to make horizontalalignment, halignment do alignment does now. Best, Tuviah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Link to an Educational Stack
on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 Mark Greenberg wrote: I also have stacks written in HyperStudio if anyone is interested in those. Of course!! There are teachers in this list that will be very interested. Could you include links to HyperStudio players for Windows and Mac? The New York Times featured me and this teaching approach in the Circuit section last Thursday (front page). That's me in the picture. This is the direction for this article. You need to make an account with the NYT to read the article. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/19/technology/circuits/19teac.html The article mentioned that you had created dozens of games: a role-playing card game called Magic: The Gathering that requires students to dress historical figures with qualities that best fit their names, a multimedia quiz on comma placement or the multiplication of polynomials, fill in blank speech balloons from Calvin and Hobbes comic strips and Jeopardy-like games to train students for the Academic Decathlon, a student contest. Will you upload these games too? ;-) Internet access in the classroom has become a mixed blessing. In the lab, i asked for a master switch to turn off the internet access. Chat has become a big time sink in the classroom! Keep up your good work, Mark! :-) al PS: By the way, Did someone else notice the way that this message become merged with next mail in the digest? This has happen before. Where is the problem? The New York Times featured me and this teaching approach in the Circuit section last Thursday (front page). That's me in the picture.From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 26 21:11:50 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail1.atl.registeredsite.com = Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032 + 819
Hi RunRev team, could you please give a (short, i know you are always in a hurry ;-) hint on how we should understand your comments on these 2 entries? ## start 819 # --- Additional Comment #1 From Tuviah Snyder 2004-03-28 20:42 --- OK anyone have any problem with me changing this for 2.2? This one suggests that this might go into 2.2, which hasn't... Only thing I can see this breaking is people who already obscure text using an image. end 819 ## 1032# 2003-12-05: To be able to position the label-text of buttons directly on top of their icons. This way we wouldn't need so many workaround to make this happen ;-) Thank you... Klaus Major -- Posted by RevZilla 1.1 --- Additional Comment #1 From Mark 2004-03-21 04:19 --- Something like changing the textHeight of a button? --- Additional Comment #2 From Klaus Major 2004-03-21 06:20 --- ##Something like changing the textHeight of a button? I have no idea... But as long this will position the label on top of the icon, its OK ;-) Regards Klaus Major --- Additional Comment #3 From Kevin Miller 2004-04-29 18:53 --- This is now included in the shipping version 2.2. Thanks for the request. This is either not true or absolutely well hidden :-) If you really mean struggling with the margins is the solution then i cannot take your answer too serious... Anyway, all i want is a clear answer :-) Thanks in advance. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:03:56 -0500, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/26/04 8:21 PM, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please fix it so that the update function which loads the pop-up buttons always works. I can't use Revzilla anymore to post a bug because it will say Retreving data from Bugzilla but never load it into the pop-up buttons. Version 1.1.2 This is probably because you haven't logged into *Bugzilla* in a while. Unfortunately, the cookies expire and I don't know how to log into Bugzilla from RevZilla, so if you don't have working popup menus, go to Options and click Login to Bugzilla and log in using your web browser. The next time you run RevZilla (assuming it hasn't been weeks), the popups should refresh. Ken, I just tried this and it didn't work for me straight away: I mean I logged on to Bugzilla, searched for something to check it was all working, quit MSIE, quit Revolution, reloaded Revolution, reloaded the Revzilla plugin; and there were still no items in the 'Post a Bug' tab's pop-up buttons. It was only after I checked that Revzilla 'knows' me by searching for my own bugs that the 'Post a Bug' tab came back. Just so you know. Windows XP Home Edition BTW. On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:42:02 -0700, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug. 2. Would also be useful if we could resize the main window. Sometimes I find myself using the horizontal slider way too much. I strongly agree with these. I find the way of adding comments in Bugzilla itself strangely hard to do, and anyway I'd **far** rather use Revzilla! Graham --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032
--- tuviah snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try this: Make a button 128 pixels square. Give it a big icon (I used 803). Then: set the margins of btn 1 to 40 set the topmargin of btn 1 to 60 set the textcolor of btn 1 to blue set the textstyle of btn 1 to bold set the textsize of btn 1 to 20 On my Mac, I get a blue label over the picture (not behind it) and the icon is vertically centered (well, close. Play with the numbers.) Seems that we need vertical alignment (verticalalignment, valignment property) options (bottom, top, centered) which get applied regardless of the image. This is the easiest way. We would also need to make horizontalalignment, halignment do alignment does now. Best, Tuviah This sounds really useful for fields as well ; especially for those who are using them as cells for substitute table controls. I suggest as default values for buttons : - vAlign is bottom - hAlign is center And as default values for fields : - vAlign is top - hAlign is left That way things are as they have always been. Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032
Not true. By default, the text for buttons is centered unless an icon is present, in which case the text is immediately below the icon, and they are sort of centered together in the button. This default would call for an additional alignment option. You would not really need a new option for horizontal alignment, would you? Isn't that working already? A vertical alignment option would be sufficient, perhaps with options like top, bottom, center, belowIcon, and aboveIcon -- where belowIcon (the default) and aboveIcon would be equivalent to center when no icon is present? On Aug 27, 2004, at 9:07 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: I suggest as default values for buttons : - vAlign is bottom - hAlign is center And as default values for fields : - vAlign is top - hAlign is left ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Reading UTF-8 files?
Does anyone know if there's a way to read UTF-8 files? The docs suggest not (only UTF-16). If not, then my app won't be able to read iPhoto albums with high-byte characters in the album title, such as umlauts, ö. Ugh... Does anyone know if this is expected to be fixed in 2.5? Thanks, -- Frank Web Photos Pro: Software for Photo Bloggers and Other Photo Power Users See us on the web at http://www.webphotospro.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032
--- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. By default, the text for buttons is centered unless an icon is present, in which case the text is immediately below the icon, and they are sort of centered together in the button. This default would call for an additional alignment option. You would not really need a new option for horizontal alignment, would you? Isn't that working already? A vertical alignment option would be sufficient, perhaps with options like top, bottom, center, belowIcon, and aboveIcon -- where belowIcon (the default) and aboveIcon would be equivalent to center when no icon is present? You're right : horizontal alignment is already working properly, and I was merely echoing Tuviah's idea of adding vertical alignment and some synonyms for the current (horizontal) textAlign property. And you do have a couple of neat proposals for the vertical text alignment ; though for clarity, I'd replace center with middle for this property. Will you bugzilla these and let us know the number so we can vote for it ? Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032 + 819
This is either not true or absolutely well hidden :-) If you really mean struggling with the margins is the solution then i cannot take your answer too serious... The drawing order was changed so that you can draw text on top of icons. The other issue (not struggling with margins) is a design issue and needs to be discussed and resolved before being implemented. Best, Tuviah ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032
And you do have a couple of neat proposals for the vertical text alignment ; though for clarity, I'd replace center with middle for this property. Will you bugzilla these and let us know the number so we can vote for it ? Jan Schenkel. middle I have --never-- seen middle used as a centering term in modern software products. It would be confusing to me to have to use center for some things, and middle for others in Transcript. Could it not be done in an even simpler way? For example, by default text is centered at the bottom of a button when an icon is present. Could their not be a property that is either true of false for text over an icon? Like... set the textOverlay of btn 1 to true -- Text ON TOP OF the icon set the textOverlay of btn 1 to false -- Text at bottom of the button In either case, the text would be horizontally centered. If more control is desired beyond overlaying the button text, then yes the previous suggestions regarding allignment would provide a more versitile solution. Sometimes, simplicity is best though IMHO. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you do have a couple of neat proposals for the vertical text alignment ; though for clarity, I'd replace center with middle for this property. Will you bugzilla these and let us know the number so we can vote for it ? Jan Schenkel. middle I have --never-- seen middle used as a centering term in modern software products. It would be confusing to me to have to use center for some things, and middle for others in Transcript. [snip] Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Roger, In HTML tables, you can use the following vertical alignments : top, middle, bottom -- I guess this makes it easier to distinguish between vertical and horizontal alignments (left, center, right). That being said, I like simplicity too, but you have to admit it would be neat to set the vertical alignment of a button to control where the icon and text end up. If for some reason, you want the icon and the text to be right-aligned, with the text above the icon, it would be as simple as : - hALign = right - vAlign = aboveIcon Hope this clarifies my view, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032 - 2081
The new bug number is 2081, I stuck with center as the suggested item, and added obscure vertical alignment as an equivalent to center, only with the icon over top of the text. On Aug 27, 2004, at 10:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you do have a couple of neat proposals for the vertical text alignment ; though for clarity, I'd replace center with middle for this property. Will you bugzilla these and let us know the number so we can vote for it ? Jan Schenkel. middle I have --never-- seen middle used as a centering term in modern software products. It would be confusing to me to have to use center for some things, and middle for others in Transcript. Could it not be done in an even simpler way? For example, by default text is centered at the bottom of a button when an icon is present. Could their not be a property that is either true of false for text over an icon? Like... set the textOverlay of btn 1 to true -- Text ON TOP OF the icon set the textOverlay of btn 1 to false -- Text at bottom of the button In either case, the text would be horizontally centered. If more control is desired beyond overlaying the button text, then yes the previous suggestions regarding allignment would provide a more versitile solution. Sometimes, simplicity is best though IMHO. Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: anyone here would use simple httpd or ftpd code?
On Friday, August 27, 2004, at 01:07 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote: Being able to accept uploads (through ftp or http) would be the most welcome feature for me. robert I know little or next to nothing about this topic. I know how to use Fetch. OK, so I'm a dumbBo, big deal. I'm also in need of trying to send a randomly named 1kb text file to an anonymous FTP upload folder from a commercially sold standalone app. I want to use this same anonymous FTP upload folder to have a product fulfillment app running from my place of business batch process these files, remove them from the upload folder, and send out reciprocal unlock keys for feature upgrades. My biggest problem was finding a server that still uses or makes available these anonymous FTP upload folders. Turns out you can host your own remote servers at ServerBeach.com with 2000 gig transfer rate per month. So now I'm off to learn all about that. This was my answer to having my commercial apps e-mail me with the user's own e-mail client. I believe that Rev already has native functions to handle these anonymous folder FTP uploads. This was the only way I could figure out how to get a text file from anywhere in the world to a single location that I could use another app to make use of through automation. I imagine that there is a CGI method using the post function but I would need that FTP folder for other needs anyway so I just decided to use that FTP approach. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bugzilla nr. 1032 + 819
Hi Tuviah, This is either not true or absolutely well hidden :-) If you really mean struggling with the margins is the solution then i cannot take your answer too serious... The drawing order was changed so that you can draw text on top of icons. The other issue (not struggling with margins) is a design issue and needs to be discussed and resolved before being implemented. Well this is a clear answer, although not exactly to my question ;-) Now if my analysis is correct this means: 1. This feature is not included in v. 2.2 2. Dealing with the margins is not what Mr. Miller meant Thank you :-) Best, Tuviah Best from germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] Kartolina Photo -Total rewrite
I have rewritten my app Kartolina Photo and have included many new features. This beta is Mac OS X only - other versions will follow. I am looking for feedback on all the tiny little bugs I have surely left in it ;-) plus any problems people might have understanding the interface or functionality. * Send feedback to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This app will: make custom cards using your photo or image add text to your photo or image import images from the web and then manipulate that image add arrows and text field for explaining parts of images (weather, space, satellite, etc.) The new app features: multiple fields album manager for favorite folders of images web images scale to 300% crop save and a few other things. Download the beta at: http://ezpzapps.com/kartolina/Kartolina_Photo_3_b4.1.sit ( Information about the old version is at: http://EZPZapps.com/kartolina ) Thanks Oh! Did I mention the European Rev Conference to be held in November??? http://TechieTours.com/Rev sims ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.5b2 engines
Is there anywhere I can go to download additional engines for 2.5b2? I want to try building standalones for multiple platforms, but I keep getting download errors when Rev tries to download the additional engines. So can they be downloaded manually somewhere? Thanks, Chris Sheffield Software Developer Read Naturally --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
On 8/27/04 6:36 AM, Graham Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, I just tried this and it didn't work for me straight away: I mean I logged on to Bugzilla, searched for something to check it was all working, quit MSIE, quit Revolution, reloaded Revolution, reloaded the Revzilla plugin; and there were still no items in the 'Post a Bug' tab's pop-up buttons. It was only after I checked that Revzilla 'knows' me by searching for my own bugs that the 'Post a Bug' tab came back. Just so you know. Windows XP Home Edition BTW. Thanks, Graham. I'll check it out and see how I can make this easier/more reliable. 1. It would be cool if we could add comments to an existing bug. 2. Would also be useful if we could resize the main window. Sometimes I find myself using the horizontal slider way too much. I strongly agree with these. I find the way of adding comments in Bugzilla itself strangely hard to do, and anyway I'd **far** rather use Revzilla! I'll add your votes, thanks! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing records from the database
Revolution allows you to build printable areas as large or as small as you like, so you'd just have to design a card so that it wasn't too large for your paper. (This may have to be done by trial and error a couple of times, but then it will work properly from that point on.) Hi Ken, I need to print statements. I understand I need to set up a card as a template and then put in the info via SQL(from my PostgreSQL db) each statement for a different customer. How would be the best way to do that, that I should have them all in one print ? The amount of statement amount varies . Thanks, Hershel Hope that helps, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: need advise on grid like control...
It's a reference to a possible library of duplicatable functions that would doc individual fields into columns and rows and size them properly based on border sizes for each row or column. It should also set line hight and font types and sizes. It should probably be done as an array or set of arrays and stored using a pull-parser in MTML. :-) There should also be global attributes for column formatting. All this should be like a spreadsheet layout processor. It should even handle the naming conventions for each field with names like r1c1, r2c1, r1c2, etc... It should even handle math attributes for running calculations from one field, ranges of fields into another field or fields. In other words it should be a stack that acts like a storable spreadsheet. Having object control over individual field objects could lead to extremely powerful acting spreadsheets. Now there's a bit of work for the person that has nothing better to do. Got that. Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5b2 engines
On 8/27/04 11:09 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: Is there anywhere I can go to download additional engines for 2.5b2? I want to try building standalones for multiple platforms, but I keep getting download errors when Rev tries to download the additional engines. So can they be downloaded manually somewhere? Yup: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/engines/2.5B2/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: 2.5b2 engines
Thanks, Jacque. Couldn't find it. :-) Chris Sheffield Software Developer Read Naturally -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 12:23 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: 2.5b2 engines On 8/27/04 11:09 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: Is there anywhere I can go to download additional engines for 2.5b2? I want to try building standalones for multiple platforms, but I keep getting download errors when Rev tries to download the additional engines. So can they be downloaded manually somewhere? Yup: http://www.runrev.com/downloads/engines/2.5B2/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.744 / Virus Database: 496 - Release Date: 8/24/2004 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sockets
Hi, I am looking for a sample runtime revolution stack that has the following elements 1. Address Text Box 2. Port Text Box 3. Command Text Box 4. Send Button 5. Response Text Box eg Address = 192.168.100.63, Port = 4563 Command = MYOBContacts - Send - Receive a long list of MYOBContacts. I already have this working with REALbasic and our graphic designer desires to use Runtime Revolution for the gui. Any pointers? Thanks Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Launch with non-file argument(s)
Any way to launch an app with an argument which is *not* a filename, and not block? I can get this to work with the shell function, except that it is blocking (the stack stalls until the other app quits), which is not acceptable. I tried to get this to work with the launch statement, except that it complains that the document does not exist. I need this to work cross-platform (I could, of course, have separate cases for different platforms -- that doesn't bother me if it works; It looks like start might be used under Windows? What about OS X and *NIX?). ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch with non-file argument(s)
On 8/27/04 3:36 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any way to launch an app with an argument which is *not* a filename, and not block? I can get this to work with the shell function, except that it is blocking (the stack stalls until the other app quits), which is not acceptable. Did you try open process for neither? I believe these are non-blocking... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
I have a stack that I have made that provides a library for working with sockets in Revolution, as well as a front end for the library. I'll upload it to revOnline tonight, and you can see if it does what you need. Scott Slaugh On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 06:27:29 +1000, Keith Hutchison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am looking for a sample runtime revolution stack that has the following elements 1. Address Text Box 2. Port Text Box 3. Command Text Box 4. Send Button 5. Response Text Box eg Address = 192.168.100.63, Port = 4563 Command = MYOBContacts - Send - Receive a long list of MYOBContacts. I already have this working with REALbasic and our graphic designer desires to use Runtime Revolution for the gui. Any pointers? Thanks Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Hi Scott, I have a stack that I have made that provides a library for working with sockets in Revolution, as well as a front end for the library. I'll upload it to revOnline tonight, and you can see if it does what you need. Thanks Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch with non-file argument(s)
How can I pass parameters with that? On Aug 27, 2004, at 5:07 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On 8/27/04 3:36 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any way to launch an app with an argument which is *not* a filename, and not block? I can get this to work with the shell function, except that it is blocking (the stack stalls until the other app quits), which is not acceptable. Did you try open process for neither? I believe these are non-blocking... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrows nudge or not?
My guess is that this is an IDE feature. How do you give your users a pointer tool that lets them select objects in a standalone anyway? (Every day I learn something new about this amazing tool.) On Aug 26, 2004, at 3:26 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: Should the arrows nudge controls when they are selected with the pointer tool in standalones as they do in the IDE? Is this an IDE feature or something in the engine? -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolutionary Author of Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.revolutionpros.com for more info Available at Runtime Revolution Store (http://www.runrev.com/RevPress) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
One thing that I've wanted to see in RevZilla is visual feedback on the button on the various pages that will take you to BugZilla's page on that bug. Right now, if I click it, nothing happens. I then wait a few seconds for my web browser to come up before I know for sure that it was actually clicked. It would be wonderful if the button had a hilited state so that I could see when I hold the mouse down on it. The other feature I would like to see added is support for Firefox in Windows. Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrows nudge or not?
On Aug 27, 2004, at 5:28 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: My guess is that this is an IDE feature. How do you give your users a pointer tool that lets them select objects in a standalone anyway? (Every day I learn something new about this amazing tool.) Dan, the surprising part is that pretty much ALL the tools can be provided to the end-user - take a look at choose tool. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dial
There could be a lot of reasons the dial command isn't supported in Revolution. I have not tried to use the alternative approaches, but what looks potentially promising for what you want to do is the write to file command with modem as the file identifier. This is documented and may do what you want. On Aug 25, 2004, at 1:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, With Hypercard, it was very very simple to dial a phone number ( dial 05 02 00 00 00 for ex with modem ). Only you click with one hand on a button to dial and with other hand you take your téléphone to your ear. Why it is impossible to dial with Revolution ? (I am under OS X) I try : close driver /dev/cu.modem open driver /dev/cu.modem write ATDTPhoneNumberCR to driver /dev/cu.modem read from driver /dev/cu.modem until eof (write ATHcr to driver /dev/cu.modem read from driver /dev/cu.modem until eof) With Revolution you must think when you must click on the button to dial, when you must lift the receiver, when you must hang up, etc And most often, the application crash. Could you help me, or not ? I am not an informatician. Thanks Edouard ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolutionary Author of Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.revolutionpros.com for more info Available at Runtime Revolution Store (http://www.runrev.com/RevPress) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dial
write to driver, maybe? On Aug 27, 2004, at 5:33 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: There could be a lot of reasons the dial command isn't supported in Revolution. I have not tried to use the alternative approaches, but what looks potentially promising for what you want to do is the write to file command with modem as the file identifier. This is documented and may do what you want. On Aug 25, 2004, at 1:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, With Hypercard, it was very very simple to dial a phone number ( dial 05 02 00 00 00 for ex with modem ). Only you click with one hand on a button to dial and with other hand you take your téléphone to your ear. Why it is impossible to dial with Revolution ? (I am under OS X) I try : close driver /dev/cu.modem open driver /dev/cu.modem write ATDTPhoneNumberCR to driver /dev/cu.modem read from driver /dev/cu.modem until eof (write ATHcr to driver /dev/cu.modem read from driver /dev/cu.modem until eof) With Revolution you must think when you must click on the button to dial, when you must lift the receiver, when you must hang up, etc And most often, the application crash. Could you help me, or not ? I am not an informatician. Thanks Edouard ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolutionary Author of Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.revolutionpros.com for more info Available at Runtime Revolution Store (http://www.runrev.com/RevPress) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Does the following code look correct? set TheResult to open socket 127.0.0.1:4563 with message MYOBContacts set the contents of ResultField to TheResult Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Arrows nudge or not?
On Aug 27, 2004, at 2:28 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: My guess is that this is an IDE feature. How do you give your users a pointer tool that lets them select objects in a standalone anyway? (Every day I learn something new about this amazing tool.) On Aug 26, 2004, at 3:26 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: Should the arrows nudge controls when they are selected with the pointer tool in standalones as they do in the IDE? Is this an IDE feature or something in the engine? Thanks for your reply. I was hoping that I was missing something. Guess I will need to program that in myself. I have a page layout teacher tool that has a tool bar. You click on the arrow tool and it chooses the pointer tool. From there your users are in that mode. -- Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
On Aug 27, 2004, at 5:35 PM, Keith Hutchison wrote: Does the following code look correct? set TheResult to open socket 127.0.0.1:4563 with message MYOBContacts set the contents of ResultField to TheResult No. There is a lot wrong with it, to be blunt. ;-) The first line would probably look like - open socket to 127.0.0.1:4563 with message MYOBContacts But - MYOBContacts would be a handler in your scripts which the socket connection is going to make a callback to. It is the definition of a callback you are making there, not the message sent to the socket. That happens with a write command. The second line looks like it would be creating a custom property... it probably wants to look something like - put theResult into field ResultField However, TheResult would currently not be holding anything very useful. You will need to Read from the socket before and place the result of that into a variable. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
... set TheResult to open socket 127.0.0.1:4563 with message MYOBContacts set the contents of ResultField to TheResult ... blocking: on mouseUp open Socket 127.0.0.1:4563 write MYOBContacts to socket 127.0.0.1:4563 close socket 127.0.0.1:4563 end mouseUp nonblocking: on mouseUp Open Socket 127.0.0.1:4563 with message socketOpen end mouseUp on socketOpen theIP write MYOBContacts to socket theIP with message messageWritten end socketOpen on messageWritten theIP close socket theIP end messageWritten complicated I know :) Bjoernke ()()()()()()()()()() Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.1.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Hi Troy No. There is a lot wrong with it, to be blunt. ;-) Excellent!! ( Had to start somewhere :-) ) The first line would probably look like - open socket to 127.0.0.1:4563 with message MYOBContacts But - MYOBContacts would be a handler in your scripts which the socket connection is going to make a callback to. It is the definition of a callback you are making there, not the message sent to the socket. Is defining the call back like defining the name space for the socket? In realbasic I would do something like this where kjtlTCPCommander is a socket subclass which handles all the read and write functions. TCPCommander = new kjtlTCPCommander TCPCommander.Address = Address TCPCommander.Port = Port if TCPCommander.Run( Command, Message ) then AdviseResult( 0, Verbose, Message ) else AdviseResult( 1, Verbose, Message ) end if That happens with a write command. How do you access the socket object? Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Link to an Educational Stack
--- Alejandro Tejada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 Mark Greenberg wrote: The New York Times featured me and this teaching approach in the Circuit section last Thursday (front page). That's me in the picture. This is the direction for this article. make an account with the NYT. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/19/technology/circuits/19teac.html The article mentioned that you had created dozens of games: a role-playing card game called Magic: The Gathering that requires students to dress historical figures with qualities that best fit their names, a multimedia quiz on comma placement or the multiplication of polynomials, fill in blank speech balloons from Calvin and Hobbes comic strips and Jeopardy-like games to train students for the Academic Decathlon, a student contest. sounds like an active sense of play inplay. Andre Garzia (with a Z) wrote: code and comedy are very similar, how many times you looked at a source and laughed... this speaks to Richard Gaskin's thoughts on using RunRev in brand new ways. maybe humor is a crucial though intangiable element in educational apps for kids. Erik Hansen = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Hi Björnke Here is the code I have based on your example. I have breakpoints on each event, however only the first event, mouseup stops in the debugger. on mouseUp open socket 192.168.100.63:4563 with message socketOpen end mouseUp on socketOpen theIP write Hello to socket theIP with message messageWritten end socketOpen on messageWritten theIP close socket theIP end messageWritten I know the port is open since I can send a command from a linux command line extract... ns2: # PortCommandLiner.mwrb -a 192.168.100.63 -p 4563 -c Hello -v World Any further ideas? Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dial
Oh, and then there's the easy way to do it: http://www.fjrhome.net/PhoneDialer.rev On Aug 27, 2004, at 5:37 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: write to driver, maybe? On Aug 27, 2004, at 5:33 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: There could be a lot of reasons the dial command isn't supported in Revolution. I have not tried to use the alternative approaches, but what looks potentially promising for what you want to do is the write to file command with modem as the file identifier. This is documented and may do what you want. On Aug 25, 2004, at 1:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, With Hypercard, it was very very simple to dial a phone number ( dial 05 02 00 00 00 for ex with modem ). Only you click with one hand on a button to dial and with other hand you take your téléphone to your ear. Why it is impossible to dial with Revolution ? (I am under OS X) I try : close driver /dev/cu.modem open driver /dev/cu.modem write ATDTPhoneNumberCR to driver /dev/cu.modem read from driver /dev/cu.modem until eof (write ATHcr to driver /dev/cu.modem read from driver /dev/cu.modem until eof) With Revolution you must think when you must click on the button to dial, when you must lift the receiver, when you must hang up, etc And most often, the application crash. Could you help me, or not ? I am not an informatician. Thanks Edouard ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolutionary Author of Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.revolutionpros.com for more info Available at Runtime Revolution Store (http://www.runrev.com/RevPress) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
On Aug 27, 2004, at 6:27 PM, Keith Hutchison wrote: Any further ideas? Well, are you expecting to read something from the socket, or just write to it? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.5 Release Candidate 1
Hi Folks, Release candidate is now up for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. A few things to note: You won't be able to access any of the external web browser links in this yet, as they point to the updated web site which is currently password protected as it gets finished. The new site will go live when we launch. The content for the Learning Center is still not finished. This is something we can update online without having to release another version of the product. It will be up over the next couple of days. The installation process now detects if the correct video codec has been installed. The keys needed to unlock this release have not changed since beta 2. Note that the store and key generation systems will be taken up and down throughout the weekend as we upgrade them in final preparation for release. Please do not email support if you are unable to get a key from the system because it is down - support does not have access to the system when it is down either. Apologies in advance for any inconvenience, this disruption is unavoidable and will create a better system for all. We're aware of an issue in the Documentation freezing for a minute or so when accessing it with Web Notes turned on at the same time as downloading a video from Rev Online. We'll probably patch this in a minor rebuild before we ship. The Sample Stacks that used to be shipped with the product will be included on the updated site as an optional download, this is so that the new Sample Projects, which are carefully designed and commented for learning, are the ones that new users are pointed to. We will also be including the new Externals SDK on the updated web site when it goes live. At this time we are no longer able to respond to minor glitches or annoyances reported. This is because we must change as little as possible in any rebuild to ensure we don't introduce any new issues. Please do not give these URLs out. Classic is still to follow. http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5RC1/linux.tgz http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5RC1/revolution-2.5-rc1.i386 .rpm http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5RC1/revsetup.exe http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5RC1/revolution.zip http://www.runrev.com/downloads/distributions/2.5RC1/revolutionosx.dmg Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Documentation in 2.5
I have been working a good bit with 2.5b2 and have found very few major issues with it, and certainly none that haven't been reported. But I'd like to be contrary for a moment here (yeah, I know...big shock, right?) and ask why documentation was fixed for 2.5 when as far as I was concerned it was never broken in 2.2. In fact, it is all but unusable for the kinds of things I use the online docs for in 2.5. This is not to say docs in 2.2 are perfect. But for the most part, they at least work well. In the online docs for 2.5, I am constantly ending up with that curmudgeonly dialog box that says nothing matched my search criteria. This happens whether I've actually finished entering my search criteria or not, and it happens most maddeningly when it can't find something I know is there. Case in point: the choose command. In 2.2, I go into the Transcript Dictionary and I tell it to search for choose and it instantly comes up with the right command. I ask it to find choose toolname thinking that this might be the syntax. Boom. Finds it. Same for choose tool. Try those same things in 2.5b2. The search for choose brings up a longish list, none of which is any command, let alone the choose command. (I think it might be looking for TOPICS with the word choose but I'm guessing; the UI provides zero feedback about what is going on.) I click on Dictionary with the word choose in the search field and I get a bunch of commands that have the word choose in their description. The choose command is one of them. Try choose tool or choose toolname. Result: nothing found. I've had this experience over and over and over again. I'm sure there must be some fabulous new features in the new docs or RR wouldn't have taken time to update them, but can we PLEASE just have them work at least as well as they did in 2.2? I'm one of those strange birds who actually reads such things. If I can find them. ~~ Dan Shafer, Revolutionary Author of Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.revolutionpros.com for more info Available at Runtime Revolution Store (http://www.runrev.com/RevPress) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Hi Troy Read and write. Concept is send in a command via tcpip to a server, process the results on the Runtime Revolution built client. Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
ok try this modification, there seems to be a problem with the open socket command... maybe the socket is already open? the result will contain the error information. on mouseUp open socket 192.168.100.63:4563 with message socketOpen if the result then put the result end mouseUp if indeed the socket is already open, then you can close all sockets by using the command resetall I just tested it, and indeed it does not close the socket. Strange, I have no idea why that could be? anyway to read from the socket you need to know either the length of the returned data, or the delimiter at the end of the data (ie. return) then you can read from your socket read from socket 192.168.100.63:4563 until return or read from socket 192.168.100.63:4563 for 20 chars why don't you join the chat, we can help you live there :) type this into the message box: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.1.rev; On Aug 28 2004, at 00:27, Keith Hutchison wrote: Hi Björnke Here is the code I have based on your example. I have breakpoints on each event, however only the first event, mouseup stops in the debugger. on mouseUp open socket 192.168.100.63:4563 with message socketOpen end mouseUp on socketOpen theIP write Hello to socket theIP with message messageWritten end socketOpen on messageWritten theIP close socket theIP end messageWritten I know the port is open since I can send a command from a linux command line extract... ns2: # PortCommandLiner.mwrb -a 192.168.100.63 -p 4563 -c Hello -v World Any further ideas? ()()()()()()()()()() Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.1.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
Before I log this to Bugzilla, I just want to check and see if anyone else sees this with the RC1 build - double-click on the Revolution Player and it will get to a point where it says Preparing... and then it freezes (I'm on OS X 10.3.4). If I force quit, there's a file left behind called Revolution Launcher. Anyone else see this? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
On Aug 27, 2004, at 6:47 PM, Keith Hutchison wrote: Read and write. Concept is send in a command via tcpip to a server, process the results on the Runtime Revolution built client. Well then, in your description you are - opening the socket once open, writing to the socket once written, closing the socket You probably want to have something like - on messageWritten theIP read from socket theIP until linefeed with message storeData end messageWritten -- on storeData theIP, theMessage Put theMessage into field resultField end storeData Generally, you will keep going back and reading, until some condition tells your software to stop that. So the storeData handler may well make a new call to read from socket... again, etc. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Documentation in 2.5 - still doesn't show correct document - gives xmlerr
Am I missing something here? When I open the documentation and click on dictionary, I get a list of terms at the left. However, when I select an item (highlight OR double-click on) from this list (regardless of item chosen), what gets displayed at the right is STILL xmlerr, bad document id xmlerr, bad At this point, I'd be glad to get as far as Dan describes. What am I doing wrong? M On Aug 27, 2004, at 6:45 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: In the online docs for 2.5, I am constantly ending up with that curmudgeonly dialog box that says nothing matched my search criteria. This happens whether I've actually finished entering my search criteria or not, and it happens most maddeningly when it can't find something I know is there. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documentation in 2.5
On Aug 27, 2004, at 6:45 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: But I'd like to be contrary for a moment here (yeah, I know...big shock, right?) and ask why documentation was fixed for 2.5 when as far as I was concerned it was never broken in 2.2. In fact, it is all but unusable for the kinds of things I use the online docs for in 2.5. Well, there was a lot of demand for an updated approach to the docs, though the content was considered excellent. A single-window design was high on the request list. As you can see, the docs have a lot of new features built-in, and take advantage of a lot of the new features that Revolution offers... XML, etc. It seems all this updating comes with a price-tag though... performance doesn't begin to compare, and the search functionality seems less accurate than before... which was far from the best feature to begin with. All in all, it seems that we've traded one set of inefficiencies for a different set of inefficiencies. I'm not going to let it stop me from using 2.5, since at least the docs no longer freeze Rev, but I'm sincerely hoping that the decision is made to use the XML as only an authoring-time tool, but have the doc's data be based on stacks and cards rather than raw XML, which they currently seem to be. Using the native database qualities of Revolution should bring us back the speed and search functionality we enjoyed previously, while still wrapped in the sexy new package. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documentation in 2.5 - still doesn't show correct document - gives xmlerr
Well, I get the doc to appear when I click on it, but things are worse in the new RC1. Now when I do a Search for choose, I get a huge list of dictionary entries, each of which apparently includes the word choose in its text, but the list is not in any discernible order. Makes it completely useless. (BTW, the choose command itself appears near the bottom of this randomly ordered list.) I don't see ANY value in a search that looks for text inside descriptions of these commands. In the dictionary, the search out by default look only for the key words themselves in the name of the item, no? Or am I missing something here about how other people use these things? Now, if I click on Topics then a full-text search probably has real value. But not in the Dictionary. Dan On Aug 27, 2004, at 4:09 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Am I missing something here? When I open the documentation and click on dictionary, I get a list of terms at the left. However, when I select an item (highlight OR double-click on) from this list (regardless of item chosen), what gets displayed at the right is STILL xmlerr, bad document id xmlerr, bad At this point, I'd be glad to get as far as Dan describes. What am I doing wrong? M On Aug 27, 2004, at 6:45 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: In the online docs for 2.5, I am constantly ending up with that curmudgeonly dialog box that says nothing matched my search criteria. This happens whether I've actually finished entering my search criteria or not, and it happens most maddeningly when it can't find something I know is there. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
Heck, I didn't even get a Revolution Player in my OS X download. :-( Dan On Aug 27, 2004, at 4:00 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Before I log this to Bugzilla, I just want to check and see if anyone else sees this with the RC1 build - double-click on the Revolution Player and it will get to a point where it says Preparing... and then it freezes (I'm on OS X 10.3.4). If I force quit, there's a file left behind called Revolution Launcher. Anyone else see this? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dial
Which generates nice tones but of course doesn't connect to the phone. Dan On Aug 27, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: Oh, and then there's the easy way to do it: http://www.fjrhome.net/PhoneDialer.rev ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
It almost seems like we got different downloads, Dan. There IS a player in my download but the docs definitely still don't work. Dox work for you but there is no player. What gives? And, yes Ken the player hangs for me, too. Just out of curiosity, am I the only person who still gets xmlerr as a response when selecting an item in the dox? M On Aug 27, 2004, at 7:30 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Heck, I didn't even get a Revolution Player in my OS X download. :-( Dan On Aug 27, 2004, at 4:00 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Before I log this to Bugzilla, I just want to check and see if anyone else sees this with the RC1 build - double-click on the Revolution Player and it will get to a point where it says Preparing... and then it freezes (I'm on OS X 10.3.4). If I force quit, there's a file left behind called Revolution Launcher. Anyone else see this? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documentation in 2.5 - still doesn't show correct document - gives xmlerr
Am I the only person who continues to get xmlerr document when trying to select an item in the dox?? Am redownloading now to be sure I didn't just get a corrupt download... M On Aug 27, 2004, at 7:29 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Well, I get the doc to appear when I click on it, but things are worse in the new RC1. Now when I do a Search for choose, I get a huge list of dictionary entries, each of which apparently includes the word choose in its text, but the list is not in any discernible order. Makes it completely useless. On Aug 27, 2004, at 4:09 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Am I missing something here? When I open the documentation and click on dictionary, I get a list of terms at the left. However, when I select an item (highlight OR double-click on) from this list (regardless of item chosen), what gets displayed at the right is STILL xmlerr, bad document id xmlerr, bad At this point, I'd be glad to get as far as Dan describes. What am I doing wrong? M ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documentation in 2.5 - still doesn't show correct document - gives xmlerr
On 8/27/04 6:38 PM, Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only person who continues to get xmlerr document when trying to select an item in the dox?? Am redownloading now to be sure I didn't just get a corrupt download... Sorry, Marian... I don't get it. What OS are you on? (I'm on OS X 10.3.4) Perhaps that has something to do with it... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
2.5 RC 1
Hi, The changes to and speeding up of the docs in the the 2.5RC1 -- excellent -- !!! Overall security of password protected stacks -- much improved -- Congrats. WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze? From: Ken Ray Subject: Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze? Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:39:33 -0700 On 8/27/04 7:26 PM, Wouter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True the player hangs when inside the Rev folder. If one drags a stack on the app icon after the clock cursor has changed to pointer it will open in the player though the home stack won't hide. But the player works like a charm when outside the rev folder and started with a stack. This just shouldn't be... how many people are going to see another app in the Rev folder and 2x-click it to see what it does? Answer: Lots. And they shouldn't be greeted with a hanging application. It should at least say something like Move this out of the Rev folder before launching, although for the life of me I can't understand why it doesn't work in the Rev folder but does outside of it. Correct. But Rev is not really *hanging*. You still can drag stacks on the player icon and they will be loaded. Only minor change in script will resolve this in the final candidate I am sure. That's why they should still accept bugzilla reports or read the list thoroughly. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 RC 1
On Aug 27, 2004, at 8:43 PM, Wouter wrote: Overall security of password protected stacks -- much improved -- Oh? In what way? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documentation in 2.5 - xmlerr resolved
I am on OS X 10.3.5. I think I have solved the mystery. The problem appears to be having the Rev folder inside another folder with special characters (opt-f, opt-;) in the folder's name. The second download worked once but then I quit Rev and moved the Rev app folder into another named Rev 2.5 RC1 This generated the xmlerr. However, when Rev is out on the desktop OR if the folder it is in is named Rev 2.5 RC1 Folder, then the dox work. They consistently do NOT work if Rev is inside a folder named Rev 2.5 RC1 Can anyone confirm this? If so, I will bugzilla it, if only so that users can be warned not to use special characters in path leading to the Rev app. M On Aug 27, 2004, at 8:40 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On 8/27/04 6:38 PM, Marian Petrides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only person who continues to get xmlerr document when trying to select an item in the dox?? Am redownloading now to be sure I didn't just get a corrupt download... Sorry, Marian... I don't get it. What OS are you on? (I'm on OS X 10.3.4) Perhaps that has something to do with it... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
This version of Rev seems to be quite sensitive to placement inside folders. See the solution I just posted to why the dox were not displaying for me. I had moved Rev app folder into a folder named Rev 2.5 RC1 and Rev apparently didn't like the fact that it was nested inside a folder with special characters in the name (opt-f, opt-;) M On Aug 27, 2004, at 8:38 PM, Ken Ray wrote: It should at least say something like Move this out of the Rev folder before launching, although for the life of me I can't understand why it doesn't work in the Rev folder but does outside of it. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Keith, Not sure if you've already answered this, but I've a couple of comments for you. If the server is a webserver, then you can use libURL to access it w/out having to mess around with opening and closing sockets. Just use: put URL http://www.myserver.com/fred.mydocformat; into fld 1 and check out the post URL command as well. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1
At 20:16 27/08/2004 -0400, yoy wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 At this time we are no longer able to respond to minor glitches or annoyances reported. This is because we must change as little as possible in any rebuild to ensure we don't introduce any new issues. C'mon! That's an outright POS comment. Establish a known bugged FC??? No, in fact that's outright common sense. Introducing changes to software carries a risk of unintended consequences - even with the best automated testing methods around, you can't afford to risk making unnecessary changes at the last minute. If you find a major problem, you must fix it; if you find a serious or moderate problem, you have to make judgement - that's why software development managers gets paid big bucks; but if you find a minor annoyance you must not fix it. As the release date gets closer, you have to throttle down on introducing changes to minor bugs and annoyances. I don't know a software company that doesn't use some form of this throttling technique as it gets to final release of large products. You can do it differently for smaller products, where the predictability of unintended consequences is orders of magnitude smaller - but not for medium or large products, and I think Rev must be big enough to qualify for that category. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documentation in 2.5
On Aug 27, 2004, at 6:45 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Try those same things in 2.5b2. The search for choose brings up a longish list, none of which is any command, let alone the choose command. Now that I finally have gotten the dox to work, I have to agree with Dan--the search feature has been rendered less than useless (useless doesn't help, less than useless makes more work). An even more telling case-in-point. Try searching for xml. You'd think this would be unique enough to provide a limited number of hits, all of which have SOME relevance. Nope. The list it generates is 59 screens (page downs) long and includes such irrelevant items as RevSpeak (which does not have xml anywhere in the text of the entry.) I'm one of those strange birds who actually reads such things. If I can find them. Me too. Looks like I'm going to have to keep a copy of Rev 2.1.2 running alongside of 2.5, so I can search the dictionary while working. Bummer. :-( M ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1
Alex is right. What's more Kevin didn't say RunRev was going to disregard minor glitches, just that fixes may have to wait until a later release. Frankly, I'd rather deal with the devil I know (minor glitches) than with one I don't (unrecognized bugs introduced in the process of last minute tweaks to fix minor annoyances). On Aug 27, 2004, at 9:28 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: At 20:16 27/08/2004 -0400, yoy wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 At this time we are no longer able to respond to minor glitches or annoyances reported. This is because we must change as little as possible in any rebuild to ensure we don't introduce any new issues. C'mon! That's an outright POS comment. Establish a known bugged FC??? No, in fact that's outright common sense. Introducing changes to software carries a risk of unintended consequences - even with the best automated testing methods around, you can't afford to risk making unnecessary changes at the last minute. If you find a major problem, you must fix it; if you find a serious or moderate problem, you have to make judgement - that's why software development managers gets paid big bucks; but if you find a minor annoyance you must not fix it. As the release date gets closer, you have to throttle down on introducing changes to minor bugs and annoyances. I don't know a software company that doesn't use some form of this throttling technique as it gets to final release of large products. You can do it differently for smaller products, where the predictability of unintended consequences is orders of magnitude smaller - but not for medium or large products, and I think Rev must be big enough to qualify for that category. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Documentation in 2.5
In the interest of providing positive as well as negative feedback, I really like the new object button in the dox. Interestingly, search seems to work reasonably well in both the objects and FAQ section (but it doesn't work worth a flip in the dictionary). M ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
Scott, I use Firefox as my default browser, but to get RevZilla to work I just used IE to login to Bugzilla and set the cookie one time. Ever since then (several months ago), I've never had to go back to IE. Clicking on the links in RevZilla takes me to Bugzilla in Firefox just fine. Jay Madren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Slaugh Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 17:31 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next? One thing that I've wanted to see in RevZilla is visual feedback on the button on the various pages that will take you to BugZilla's page on that bug. Right now, if I click it, nothing happens. I then wait a few seconds for my web browser to come up before I know for sure that it was actually clicked. It would be wonderful if the button had a hilited state so that I could see when I hold the mouse down on it. The other feature I would like to see added is support for Firefox in Windows. Scott Slaugh ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Hi Troy Thanks for your help. Got it working. Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Hi Björnke Thanks for your online support. Got it working, Thanks Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
I've uploaded my networking library to revOnline. It is under the user xslaugh. I have also uploaded a front end stack, which demonstrates the use of the library. This front end contains some help, and the library has some comments in the script. This library currently uses datagram sockets to communicate, since they worked better for the job I originally designed this stack for. Beware that data sent is not verified. I do plan to add a version that does not use datagrams to communicate at some point in the future. Any comments on this are welcome! Scott Slaugh On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:17:43 -0500, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, Not sure if you've already answered this, but I've a couple of comments for you. If the server is a webserver, then you can use libURL to access it w/out having to mess around with opening and closing sockets. Just use: put URL http://www.myserver.com/fred.mydocformat; into fld 1 and check out the post URL command as well. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Modifying the guts of TCP/IP in Mac OS X
This may be way more than Revolution was intended for, but I haven't found much that can't be done with it: I've got a client (an ISP), who has determined that for their fiber-optic network, they need to adjust the computer's MUT_SIZE (maximum transmission unit size) setting within the TCP/IP protocol. This needs to be done in Mac OS X. They are presently doing this in Windows by adjusting certain registry values (the TCP_RECEIVE_WINDOW_SIZE TCP/IP registry) This is more a Mac OS X question than anything - - - is type of TCP/IP modification even something that can be adjusted in Mac OS? ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:Sockets [resolved]
The example I ended up with is http://balance-infosystems.com/applications/tcpcommander/TCPCommanderStack002.rev I successfully got a list of myob contacts from an middleware application server written in REALbasic to access a MYOB datafile via ADODB via an MS access database! Convoluted I know :-) , but the end result is a list of MYOB contacts from a win32 resource being displayed on a MacOSX machine, and a happy graphic designer who doesn't have to grapple with REALbasic... Many thanks to all who responded. Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The store...
The Runtime Revolution Online Store is currently offline pending the release of Revolution 2.5 - please check back soon. ? When will the store be back on line? Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Any Revolution folks in Northern Virginia?
Any Revolution developers in Northern Virginia? I'm finding that I'm just getting swamped with work and I think I'd like to start outsourcing some Revolution development to others in the area. Since this work involves telecommuncations devices in a lab environment, it really requires someone local to the Reston, Herdon or neaby. It's work that is on-going, but not something that is full-time. Perhaps 4-7 hours a week. It involves a lot of HTTP-header and TCP/IP work, so if you're interested, you'll definitely want to have experience with Etherpeek and network-sniffing software. Some of the telecommunications hardware, I can give you to have in your home. Other things require time in the lab environment. So, I can probably write more about this, once I find out if anyone is interested. Please email me off the list if you are. - Rob Gould ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The store...
On Aug 27, 2004, at 10:56 PM, Keith Hutchison wrote: The Runtime Revolution Online Store is currently offline pending the release of Revolution 2.5 - please check back soon. ? When will the store be back on line? Likely Monday. They are revamping over the weekend in preparation for the 2.5 release. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 [bug# 1962 still broken]
This was bugzilla'd as RunRev instructed me to enter it there. The Bug number was 1962 I have downloaded and installed 2.5 Release Candidate 1. My Rev preferences has the correct http proxy info, yet Rev Online still fails from behind our corporate firewall. Why doesn't it prompt for firewall authentication like all other internet applications? I hope the final release won't be like this. http://www.runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1962 Summary: Can not access Rev-Online from behind firewall Product: Revolution Version: 2.5 B1 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Revolution Online AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QAContact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roger Eller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
Hi Scott Thanks The example I ended up with is http://balance-infosystems.com/applications/tcpcommander/TCPCommanderStack002.rev I successfully got a list of myob contacts from an middleware application server written in REALbasic to access a MYOB datafile via ADODB via an MS access database! Convoluted I know :-) , but the end result is a list of MYOB contacts from a win32 resource being displayed on a MacOSX machine, and a happy graphic designer who doesn't have to grapple with REALbasic... Many thanks to all who responded. Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS Access - REALbasic http://balance-infosytems.com http://realopen.org ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Modifying the guts of TCP/IP in Mac OS X
hi- Here's how to modify the MTU under OSX. There's a lot of under-the-hood stuff involved, but this article will step you through it if you *really* need it. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107474 There's also a GUI utility call RMAC that automates this for you, but the documentation is all in Japanese. http://homepage.mac.com/johanneson/.cv/johanneson/Public/Tweaker.tgz-link.tgz The pointers above are from http://www.dslreports.com/faq/allthingsmac/7+Networking#3743 -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
On Aug 27, 2004, at 5:26 PM, Wouter wrote: The player object is produced once Rev is started up once. True. Odd but true. The launcher object is produced once the player is launched. True the player hangs when inside the Rev folder. If one drags a stack on the app icon after the clock cursor has changed to pointer it will open in the player though the home stack won't hide. But the player works like a charm when outside the rev folder and started with a stack. Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The store...
Heather and I chatted about this today. It's obviously a top priority but they're really revamping and improving it, making for lots of checking, testing and debugging. Dan On Aug 27, 2004, at 8:06 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: On Aug 27, 2004, at 10:56 PM, Keith Hutchison wrote: The Runtime Revolution Online Store is currently offline pending the release of Revolution 2.5 - please check back soon. ? When will the store be back on line? Likely Monday. They are revamping over the weekend in preparation for the 2.5 release. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
On 8/27/04 8:54 PM, Jay Madren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Firefox as my default browser, but to get RevZilla to work I just used IE to login to Bugzilla and set the cookie one time. Ever since then (several months ago), I've never had to go back to IE. Clicking on the links in RevZilla takes me to Bugzilla in Firefox just fine. True. And I've added Firefox support for OS X, but right now I'm working on a way to avoid the whole cookie issue and just allow you to provide an email address and password to log in automatically. If this works, it won't mattter what browser you're using... if it doesn't, I'll add Firefox support for Windows. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevZilla - What Should Be Done Next?
On 8/27/04 4:30 PM, Scott Slaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that I've wanted to see in RevZilla is visual feedback on the button on the various pages that will take you to BugZilla's page on that bug. Right now, if I click it, nothing happens. I then wait a few seconds for my web browser to come up before I know for sure that it was actually clicked. It would be wonderful if the button had a hilited state so that I could see when I hold the mouse down on it. No problem... I'll add some kind of indicator. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Launch with non-file argument(s)
On 8/27/04 4:17 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I pass parameters with that? Uh, I don't think you can... (oops, sorry). Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Printing records from the database
On 8/27/04 11:22 AM, Hershel Fisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revolution allows you to build printable areas as large or as small as you like, so you'd just have to design a card so that it wasn't too large for your paper. (This may have to be done by trial and error a couple of times, but then it will work properly from that point on.) Hi Ken, I need to print statements. I understand I need to set up a card as a template and then put in the info via SQL(from my PostgreSQL db) each statement for a different customer. How would be the best way to do that, that I should have them all in one print ? The amount of statement amount varies . Well, you could set up a field on the stack that is multi-column, and put the statement information into the field using tabs to separate the columns of data. If the data was longer than would fit on a single card (one that was sized appropriately, say 8x10), you'd have to calculate where to separate the data and put it on another printing card and then print them to the printer. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.5 Release Candidate 1 - Player Freeze?
On 8/27/04 6:00 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Before I log this to Bugzilla, I just want to check and see if anyone else sees this with the RC1 build - double-click on the Revolution Player and it will get to a point where it says Preparing... and then it freezes (I'm on OS X 10.3.4). If I force quit, there's a file left behind called Revolution Launcher. Anyone else see this? I've just entered bug #2086. I think removing the word Preparing won't cause too many glitches this late in the game, and would be enough to prevent users from thinking the app has hung. My other suggestion -- to ask for a stack to open -- could be postponed till a later version. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
