Blend level scale query
Can anyone say whether the LC blend level 1/ Corresponds to any particular model of transparency and opacity? 2/ Can be described in units of some kind other than the LC 1-100? 3/ Might approximate a linear scale? (Although of course these things are very trick with perceptual stuff) 4/ Gives reliably similar results across different machines OSs? Thanks, Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Re: Audio Triggering + Mouse Event latency
On 16 Nov 2010, at 6:00 pm, Richmond wrote: Why does it remind me of voice recognition software? . . . and that has, to a large extent, died a death. Nah. Must be your accent ;-) I use Dictate for all my reports. Much faster and more accurate than my typing, and no more aches and pains. Now its the *thinking* that is the bottleneck. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Milgram and the Unabomber [OT]
As a forensic psychologist I have an interest in both Milgram's work and the Unabomber. My recollection is that Kaczynski was a volunteer subject at the Murray lab in Harvard, but not for Stan Milgram. They did other poorly controlled 'research' there, which certainly would not obtain ethical approval now. Milgram's stood out as being reported sufficiently well to be interpreted, and conducted more systematically. Although Milgram's work would also not now obtain ethical approval, it met the standards of the time. I may be wrong, but I think Milgram is in the clear on the Unabomber. A Mythoid rather than a Factoid? Regards David Glasgow On 21 Oct 2010, at 12:34, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Milgram's youngest and most vulnerable undergraduate research subjects was extremely damaged by Milgram's emotionally abusive experiments. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re:-Milgram the Unabomber [OT]
Jacqueline Landman Gay said: Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. Nah. Nice list. Nice people. :-) Mind you, there was that one guy Regards David Glasgow On 22 Oct 2010, at 13:32, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Uh oh. After reading this list for so long, you've probably got enough material for a book by now. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data from USB joystick
On 29 Sep 2010, at 6:00 pm, -=JB=- wrote: Exactly and that is why I did not mention it in my first response because it sounded to me like he wanted to write code that is going to allow his program to communicate with a USD device and not depend on anything but his program. You are correct in what you understood, that would be ideal - and I am sure would be valuable to many LiveCode users. However, I am desperate to know whether my idea will work or not, so, I can do some development testing work using USBOverdrive, and then worry about how to package it all up neatly (and cross platform) later, if it does work. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: data from USB joystick
On 28 Sep 2010, at 6:00 pm, -=JB=- wrote: On Mac I use USB Overdrive. http://www.usboverdrive.com/USBOverdrive/News.html -=JB=- Thanks for the suggestion. I downloaded this shareware, and it does the trick on Mac. You can set it up so a joystick generates rawkey messages. This won't be a solution for delivering a final product, but at least I will be able to do some development work. The only fly in the ointment is that even when disabled, USBOverdrive blocks scrolling on my Magic Mouse. It is bad enough that I travel England stroking other people's mice and shouting D,Oh! but now I do it on my own mouse. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 84, Issue 56
On 27 Sep 2010, at 2:12 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: [ they cannot be that other-worldly ] Oh but they are! (or at least, too alien for my abilities) And yes, the point is not to have any set up panel run separately from the LiveCard standalone. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
data from USB joystick
Hello folks, I really really want to make a Rev (Ooops) LiveCode app with a push pull interface like on a mixing slider, or 'dive' and 'pull up' on a plain old joystick. I have raised questions about this a few times on the list over a number of years, and got some helpful pointers. However, having followed these into the underpants of USB, I have discovered that is not a place I have the ability to work. So I give up. Is there anyone on this list who could create a cross platform extension or library thingy which would allow me to read the state(s) of an ordinary, off the shelf USB joystick? If so, what would the cost be? Best Wishes, David Glasgow i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Functionality AND good taste?
Hello folks, I am being encouraged by customers to update and improve a Rev built product I produced many years ago. I have a wish list for functionality changes, but I am slightly depressed at how ugly and old the original looks. I have decided to start again from scratch, so there are no limitations on what I can do, other than those imposed by Rev and my abilities (mostly the latter). I have no background in design, but would like to make the product look better and up to date. I know I can pretty much change the appearance of anything in Rev, but this is a serious product for technical use, so I am not thinking oval windows and faux glass skins. I also strongly subscribe to the view that less is more, so I don't want reflections and things swooshing about. Are there any books or online resources on making software look simple and good? Thanks Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: InstallGadget 2.0 Public Testing
On 7 Sep 2010, at 11:58 am, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Everyone If you are interested in being involved in testing InstallGadget 2.0 and it's Rev plugin please download from http://goulding.ws/installgadget/installgadget-2-0-public-testing/ and send comments off list to mo...@goulding.ws Cheers -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave I have been using InstallGadget 1.0 for a long time and it has been astonishingly well behaved, despite the significant OS changes since it was developed. InstallGadget 2.0 looks interesting. Being rather lazy, I quite like the idea of Windows installers on Mac, without the hassle of fiddling about with my Windows Machines - but I have no other reason to use Winebottler - which effectively would be a 55MB helper app! Took me just a few ticks to create a .DMG, which worked fine. How do they do that thing with the big arrow pointing to an alias of the app folder? I suppose I should have sent this off list, but I think that Installgadget deserves a bit of unsolicited praise. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
video screen capture red rings (was Re: OT: Rodeo and media)
On 26 Jul 2010, at 3:17 am, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: The red rings look like Mouseposé which I can get green rings or ripples to indicate clicks using iShowU video capture software from ShinyWhiteBox I have used a couple of other video capture products, including Snapz pro, which I just couldn't get on with. iShowU works best for me - I have no connection with the (Kiwi) developers other than being a satisfied customer. David G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Checking the location of a moving object
Hello folks. I am proposing to import data which will form a 'freehand' graphic containing about 5,000 data point loc pairs. I have made a marker to follow the curve using the move command, which works fine. However, I want the user to be able to select a threshold on the Y axis above and below which graphics change on screen. I therefore need to check the vertical position of the marker, so I did this: In the starting button: on mouseUp checkit move grc marker to the points of graphic PPG in 90 seconds end mouseUp and in the card script: on checkit put the loc of grc marker movingthe movingcontrols -- check threshold here if the movingcontrols is not empty then send checkit to me in 1 tick end checkit I get the first loc for grc marker reported in the message box, but that's it. Is a move completely blocking or am I doing something wrong? If I can't use move in this way, any suggestions? Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Checking the location of a moving object
On 19 Jul 2010, at 4:17 pm, Alex Tweedly wrote: From:a...@tweedly.net Date: 19 July 2010 1:04:05 pm GMT+01:00 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Checking the location of a moving object Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com No, it's not completely blocking. The problem is that the very first call to checkit is BEFORE the move starts, so the movingcontrols is empty, so the send doesn't happen. Should work (i.e. it does in my simple stack :-) if you change it to (the equivalent of) Of course! (Smacks forehead x 3 with palm.) Thank you very much Alex. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT Bulgaria
On 23 May 2010, at 6:00 pm, Richmond wrote: This IS Bulgaria; or, as an American friend once put it; I love Bulgaria, it allows me to experience the same sort of thrills my ancestors experienced in Texas in the middle of the 19th century. Have you seen that film Wild Wild West; a sort of steam-punk America through distorting glasses? The problem about Wild Wild East is that one is unable to remove the distorting glasses. This caused me to have another Bulgarian flashback. I was staying in Burgas in a block of flats (apartments) on about the 8th floor back in the days of communism, when I heard the distant but unmistakable whine of a dot matrix printer. I realised it came from a room on the same floor, so I balcony hopped round (I was young, fit and stupid) and peeped in the window. It was a room empty but for about 15 C64 machines all doing stuff, windows open, because of the heat. Almost anywhere else that would have been unremarkable, but I never saw any other digital equipment, in private hands, hospitals or University. It was like coming across a showroom full of sportscars, or a supermarket with a good range of products in it. Whatever it was going on, it had to be state business, which meant security. What was I thinking? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zombie Win icon
On 12 May 2010, at 10:22 pm, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I don't know the exact answer, but I've never encountered the problem because I always save standalones into a new folder, and I never replace older ones in a folder with newer builds. I just toss the entire old folder and use the new one. So maybe that's the quick solution. Alternately, if the thumbs.db file is the culprit, you could try just deleting that. That should force the OS to read the embedded icons in the app instead. OK. It seems that I couldn't find the Thumbs.db file because Vista doesn't have them! In Windows Vista Thumbs.db file has been replaced by a number of thumbcache_xxx.db files which are now located within a user's profile at \Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer The zombie icon symptom is normal behaviour for the system: ...when a graphic is viewed and an entry made for it in the database, it is maintained indefinitely by the operating system. If the file is deleted, the image will remain unless the file or the entire folder are deleted. Local Thumbs.db and the finder.dat files have irritated me in the past, and tripped up some of my scripts. However, suddenly they seem quite sensible compared with a giant, unmodifiable central database. So. In short. Don't do what I did, do what Jacqueline does. (Actually, a good general rule in matters Rev) David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Zombie Win icon
Hello folks, More Windows icon weirdness, I am afraid. I had a home made icon for a standalone very close to release. I used IcoFX as recommended on this list. I posted recently that my icon looked horrible and dithered on Windows, displaying a small icon even when a big one is required (all sizes are included in build, and Rev accepts the ico as valid when building). Sadly, I didn't get any suggestions on list, but someone else suggested that perhaps it was a problem with the source image I used to build the icon. So I commissioned a very different looking one from a professional illustrator, and looks great. (I am never going to mess around designing icons again) Now, I use Rev studio, so the procedure is: Build icon in Win (Vista) using IcoFX and my great new artwork Save Mac Win icons to memory stick Build standalone on Mac (referencing icons) Copy Win standalone to stick Launch standalone in Vista The mac standalone with new icon looks lovely On Vista, when viewed on the memory stick the new icon only appears at small sizes, with a generic blue screen icon used at larger sizes. AND if I drag the app to the Win hard drive, the icon changes to the horrible old dithered one I no longer use. So, it seems Vista allows a dead icon to rise from the grave and take over a standalone, irrespective of the icon that has been used in the Rev build. Can this be true? If so: 1/ What is the silver bullet needed to kill off my horrible first icon? (I know, silver bullet is vampires...) 2/ Why does my IcoFX icon only appear at small sizes when all sizes are built into the icon? Thanks for any advice David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zombie Win icon
On 12 May 2010, at 2:22 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I'm sorry, David, I don't know the answers to your questions; 1/ What is the silver bullet needed to kill off my horrible first icon? (I know, silver bullet is vampires...) 2/ Why does my IcoFX icon only appear at small sizes when all sizes are built into the icon? Hmm... The horrible old icon only appears in folders in which I have previously saved the standalone with the old icon. New folder = correct icon. Maybe icons their associations get saved in thumbs.db and aren't smart enough to update? However, I can't work out how to show the thumbs.db file on Vista :-/ any suggestions? I also found that IcoFX can change the icon associated with a .exe file. Setting the icon this way seems to make it behave a bit better that via the Rev build standalone options. Not quite ready to fork out $50 yet.surely there must be Windows folks out there who understand this stuff? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing data from HID compliant USB device
On 8 May 2010, at 2:38 pm, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Subject: Re: Accessing data from HID compliant USB device Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com This one has been churning around in my head for ages, and I finally bought a couple of joysticks to experiment with. I want to build a standalone that responds to joystick input. Nothing requiring huge amounts of data or processing, just detection of joystick position - onscreen response scaling or moving an image. I can understand the basic principles of HID, but can't get to grips with where the data goes in either Mac or Windows, and what would be involved in capturing it in Rev. I have found some developer articles which address this, but they relate to other languages (VB RB, I think). Does the joystick produce keyDown/Up or rawKeyDown/Up messages? If so, you could map out the numbers that each motion triggers and have your app react accordingly. There is a utility on my web site that detects keystrokes and displays the various codes for them. http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/KeyCoder.rev Cheers, Sarah Thanks Sarah, I wrote a wee stack to look at keystrokes (not as nice as yours), but it seems that HID compliant devices work in a much more complex way than simply generating characters. Except of course the keyboard/mouse family, which do nothing but generate characters. I even bought a repro-retro amiga joystick in the hope that it worked the old fashioned way, but it doesn't. I really want the mechanical element of pushing and pulling to be present, otherwise I would use a mouse or a keyboard. There are utilities out there which enable HID devices to be configured to generate keystrokes, so they can be used by folks with a disability to use whatever software they need to use, rather than the intended games. However, that would mean running a third party utility then running my stack. Not a nice option. There are some assistive devices that seem to generate keystrokes, but they are shockingly expensive. Makes you realise there is a real disability tax when it comes to using computers. I also had expected a few Revvers to have written standalone games that use joysticks, but maybe that domain is restricted to the die-hard X-planers and shoot em ups. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Accessing data from HID compliant USB device
Hello folks, This one has been churning around in my head for ages, and I finally bought a couple of joysticks to experiment with. I want to build a standalone that responds to joystick input. Nothing requiring huge amounts of data or processing, just detection of joystick position - onscreen response scaling or moving an image. I can understand the basic principles of HID, but can't get to grips with where the data goes in either Mac or Windows, and what would be involved in capturing it in Rev. I have found some developer articles which address this, but they relate to other languages (VB RB, I think). Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing data from HID compliant USB device
On 7 May 2010, at 3:23 pm, Craig Newman wrote: Wierd. third time this week I am recommending the Service USB gadget: http://bkohg.com/service_e.html Thanks Craig, Fischertechnik® brings back memories of painfully standing barefoot on bits my brother left lying around on the floor. However what I want is the other way round. I have joysticks, and just want to be able to access the HID pages receiving their data. I know they are recognised by the OSs, and know that the data is captured if it is not directed somewhere specific. I just don't understand where, or what means might be used to read it. My guess it is pretty low level stuff, but who knows? Maybe someone has already done something like this in Rev. David G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Plovdiv (OT)
On 2 May 2010, at 8:39 pm, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: About 3 hours ago my wife and I went for a walk in a park here in Plovdiv; from the hill in the centre of the park I could see 3 shopping malls under construction: Shopping malls in Plovdiv? I called in there about 25 years ago on the way to Burgas. Todor Zhivkov was the head man back then. I think it might have been there that a friend and I wandered through a shootout between police and some New Bulgarians. Strangely enough, it wasn't on the news that night. Also strangely, neither side shot at us, or even shouted anything at us. They kind of shot round us at each other. Shopping Malls? Nah. David G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dot POS files and Corpus Linguistics
On 28 Apr 2010, at 3:17 am, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I then found out that in the case of corpus files POS means 'parts of speech'. This is typical academia delighting in obscurantism. Now for more 'fun': Also bundled in the corpus are .psd files which, wait for it, are NOT Adobe Photoshop files. PSD: Probably Something Different ??? Richmond, I have no knowledge or advice that might help you. Further, wrangling your strange corpus is of no possible use or real interest to me. .but somehow I'm hooked. There is something of the Pratchett about your posts. Please continue instalments on your progress. Good Luck, David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Icon poor in Windows Vista
I have followed the various advice on the list, including using Icofx. My icon looks good on Mac, good on XP but oddly small and pixelated on Vista. It doesn't actuially look like any of the versions built into the icon.. Any ideas? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Specialfolderpath (26) and roaming
On 19 Apr 2010, at 1:30 pm, Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote: But it's inside your user folder. Pre-Vista, it points to the user data in application data, and Vista + it points to the user data in appdata/roaming. It's just a change in folder structure. Both places are the approved location for storing user-specific data. As far as I can make out, if a user is logged into a server, this directory is saved there, and will be accessible whatever machine is subsequently used to log in. I have to say I don't quite understand how that would work in practice, because presumably each machine could have a different variant of appdata/roaming.. No, it should save to the local drive. SpecialFolderPath points to the local system. Apart form not quite getting what is going on with the roaming thing, my questions are: 1/ Does Specialfolderpath (26) serve different purposes on other Win versions? No. Same thing. 2/ Does it matter that a standalone for a single user non networked computer is saving information in the /appdata/roaming directory? No. Both save to the local drive. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software Thanks for that! How nice to get a 'nothing to worry about' reply. David G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Specialfolderpath (26) and roaming
Hello folks, My platform specific saving data script now works fine thanks for the advice so far. However, I was thrown a bit because Specialfolderpath (26) on my Vista machine points to a folder /appdata/roaming As far as I can make out, if a user is logged into a server, this directory is saved there, and will be accessible whatever machine is subsequently used to log in. I have to say I don't quite understand how that would work in practice, because presumably each machine could have a different variant of appdata/roaming.. Apart form not quite getting what is going on with the roaming thing, my questions are: 1/ Does Specialfolderpath (26) serve different purposes on other Win versions? 2/ Does it matter that a standalone for a single user non networked computer is saving information in the /appdata/roaming directory? Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
iPhone thought police...
Here is El Reg's take on the new Jobsian iPhone developer rules: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/16/does_apple_code_translation_ban_everthing/ Made me smile, anyway. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: specialfolderpath(preferences) on windows
On 15 Apr 2010, at 5:23 am, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: No, it's not supported in Windows. Entering put specialFolderPath(Preferences) in the message box returns nothing in Windows. So your file would have gone into the root if you added a slash and your file name. On advice from folks in the forum, I use specialFolderPath(asup) on the Mac, and specialFolderPath(26) on Windows, and append a slash and my app name, to get the name of the folder to put my app preferences in. If the folder doesn't exist, I create it. Thanks, Paul, that makes sense, although I still can't find my wee file, and the standalone behaves as though it exists. Nothing in the root. Maybe this has exposed an unrelated bug in my scripting. Alternatively, maybe there is a hidden and undocumented Chamber of Secrets on Windows, containing my file and Douglas' missing left socks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
specialfolderpath(preferences) on windows
Hello folks, I wrote script to save a text file to specialFolderPath(Preferences) and then reference it on subsequent startups. I had planned to write an alternative bit of script for Windows using specialFolderPath(26), but hadn't quite got round to it. I am using Rev Studio on Mac, so I have to build check, build check etc. on Windows. I built to check something else on Windows, only to find that the specialFolderPath(Preferences) script seems to be working. (It's usually things I expect to work, not working, not the other way around, so this was an unusual experience). The file was saved, and found on subsequent startups. So is specialFolderPath(Preferences) cross platform? If so, where is it? I tried searching for my file but couldn't find it. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The RevTalk song
On 1 Apr 2010, at 6:00 pm, Scott McDonald wrote: What RunRev needs is a song. (The Java guys and gals have more than one, so why don't we?) I thought it was Marc Bolan's Children of the Revolution. Yeah Well you can bump and grind It is good for your mind Well you can twist and shout let it all hang out But you won't fool the children of the revolution No you won't fool the children of the revolution, no no no David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sweet Richmond....
From: Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com Date: 18 March 2010 6:16:41 am GMT To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Fit Content Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com On 17/03/2010 22:06, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Richard. The formattedWidth gives you an entry to this... Craig Newman Thanks. Who is Richard? I know the Sweet Lass of Richard Hill :-D ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 77, Issue 71
On 26 Feb 2010, at 11:24 pm, Richmond wrote: DON'T spend money on Mac Software; once you have the machine and the operating system pretty well everything else should be FREE. Except stuff we need to sell to earn a crust, right? ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Freezing solid
On 24 Feb 2010, at 6:00 pm, John Law wrote: How does one prevent the program locking up in the middle of a job? Never, ever, make any mistakes in your scripts :-D David Glasgow PS I can risk this facetiousness, because I know good and wise list members will give you sound and helpful advice ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows 'run as administrator' property of standalone
On 3 Feb 2010, at 6:00 pm, Bernard Devlin wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:59 AM, David Glasgow da...@dvglasgow.wanadoo.co.uk wrote: I was wondering whether setting this before distribution might reduce the occasional permissions problems which arise. I was also slightly worried that user levels can apparently be so readily overridden by an executable, and also that there may be unforeseen (by me) adverse consequences if I set this flag before distribution. Hi David On Vista always have to run Valentina Studio with run as administrator or I get errors. I would be surprised if you choosing to set such a flag on an executable would result in that information being carried over when the executable is copied to another system. Bernard Bernard, Just experimented, and you are dead right. The flag becomes unset. Unfortunately I can't work out what is going on, because I have XP and Vista, and the former doesn't report that property. Nevertheless, setting it on Vista, then creating an install on XP and installing back on Vista loses the flag somewhere along the way. Darn it. It just doesn't seem very professional when you ask people to start twiddling within Vistas under-garments. David G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Windows 'run as administrator' property of standalone.
Whilst trying to solve a problem of a customer, I noticed that on Vista, a standalone can have a 'run as administrator' property set, which presumably does what it says on the tin. My recollection is that Pre Vista this was a property which could be set on a shortcut, but not the standalone itself. I was wondering whether setting this before distribution might reduce the occasional permissions problems which arise. I was also slightly worried that user levels can apparently be so readily overridden by an executable, and also that there may be unforeseen (by me) adverse consequences if I set this flag before distribution. So, should I or shouldn't I? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Noise in Windows icon when standalone compiled on Mac
Bill, I got quite excited about this, because I have struggled to get nice looking Windows icons. The Mac icon generated by iconverticons.com was fine, but the Win version choked the Rev standalone builder does not include 6 blah blah blah. I have encountered this lots of times with icons from various tools purporting to generate valid Windows icons So I imported it into Iconographer, and chose 'complete icon' from the icon menu, and it did some stuff. The resulting icon is now acceptable to Rev at build time, but doesn't look good on Vista, and behaves as if some sizes are missing (they're not, as far as I can tell). Why are icons so blimmin' tricky? David Glasgow On 3 Feb 2010, at 10:54 am, Bill Vlahos wrote: Subject: Re: Noise in Windows icon when standalone compiled on Mac Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com This web site (http://www.iconverticons.com/) will convert between the formats for free. They talk about building the Linux icon but Rev doesn't seem to have a way to incorporate an icon for Linux. How would I add the Linux icon to the Linux build? Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Imagesource of char not working as expected in Windows
On 1 Jan 2010, at 6:00 pm, Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote: From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com Date: 1 January 2010 4:52:38 pm GMT To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Imagesource of char not working as expected in Windows Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Jim Ault wrote: Of course this should make no difference... try using parens set the imageSource of last char of fld ResultsT to (binfile: k) answer (binfile: k) I was about the suggest the same thing. It does make a difference. The parentheses are required to force evaluation. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com I have been busy on other stuff, so I am only just catching up with this. I don't think I will mess with success on this one. However, the parentheses thing is really useful to know. I always understood they organised evaluation, but hadn't appreciated that they force it - which presumable might be what happens with a direct reference to a line in the field. Still don't quite grasp the platform issue though... Thanks to all who chipped in. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Imagesource of char not working as expected in Windows
Firstly, Happy New Year. It has started well for me because with the help of the list I have solved the above. Last problem of 2009, and first solution of 2010! I tried pretty much all the suggestions. (I skipped the suggestion of saving to the standalone folder, because the Windows virtualisation dragon would eat the data.) I relabelled the path to avoid non vanilla characters... I rescripted to save by changing the defaultfolder. In fact, I rescripted several times to use different methods. All worked in OS X, and none worked in Windows. As far as I can make out, the problem is something to do with representing the path as a variable. If the path was in quotes, it worked OK both as a script and in the message box. If defined as a variable, it didn't work. The solution was simply to refer directly to the line in the field containing the full path. So, set the imageSource of last char of fld ResultsT to binfile: the last line of field snapshots worked, but .. put the last line of field snapshots into k set the imageSource of last char of fld ResultsT to binfile: k .. didn't. The only thing I could think of is that on Win a character in the URL which is benign on the Mac is interpreted as part of the address, but only when copied into a variable, not when read directly from the field. Anyhoo. Fixed now. Now to get going with ScreenSteps, and make a manual. Thanks again for all the suggestions. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Imagesource of char not working as expected in Windows
I didn't get any on-list responses to this, but got a good steer from Richmond Mathewson (thanks!) off-list. In brief, my standalone (RR 4.0) takes screenshots and saves them to disk. They are also displayed in a field by appending a tilde to the field each time a snapshot is taken, and then setting the imagesource of the character to the url to which the image was saved. This works under OS X, but not Windows. I have wrestled with this and found out a little more, but still can't get the darned thing to work. I moved the save location to docs, just in case there was something weird about the temporary items location. I have tested on Vista and Win 7 with the same result. The snapshots are saved to a location such as C:/Users/DavidG/Documents/This_Much!/Anon 12 28 08 [11-36 AM]/graphics/image1.png C:/Users/DavidG/Documents/This_Much!/Anon 12 28 08 [11-39 AM]/graphics/image2.png A field called snapshots holds the list of URLs and is used like this: set the imageSource of char 1 of last line of field resultsG to line 1 of field snapshots In each case this script runs, the tilde disappears but is not replaced by anything. The imagesource of each tilde is correctly reported if requested. The fixed line height of the results field is set to false, and it has scrollbars. However many URLs are referenced, but do not appear, the scrollbar never becomes active, so it seems that no 'blank' image is being displayed. Setting the imagesource of any tilde to empty causes it to reappear, so something is happening to hide/show the character. I also use the URLs stored in field snapshots to print the graphics using this script to populate a printer stack with the images: put 1 into k repeat for each line j in field snapshots set the filename of image pikcha of card k of stack grcprinter to j put k+1 into k end repeat This works fine, so unless there is some Windows Ju-Ju I don't know about (entirely possible) it really does look as though something is broken in imagesource under Windows. Can anyone: 1/ Suggest where I am going wrong (if I am) 2/ Confirm that they do or do not have imagesource working under Windows 3/ Suggest a workaround This is a critical feature in an almost finished project , so I would really appreciate some help David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Imagesource of char not working as expected in Windows
RevRunners I capture, save and display within a scrolling field (results) a series of screenshots as follows: put specialfolderpath(temporary) /evapics/image the secs .png into tdest export snapshot from rect trect to file tdest as PNG set the imagesource of char 1 of last line of field results to binfile:/ tdest The character referred to is a tilde (~ or wiggleworm, if you prefer common usage) placed in the field a tad earlier. On OSX , this works OK. However, testing a standalone on Vista produces a results field displaying tildes but no images. The images are being save to the temporary folder, so the path looks good and I am not falling into the virtualisation heffalump trap. I have studio for Mac, so can't debug this. Any suggestions re what might be going on? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Relayering grouped groups
On 9 Dec 2009, at 4:29 pm, Scott Rossi wrote: Subject: Re: Relayering grouped groups Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Recently, David Glasgow wrote: I want users to be able to click on an image and have it come to the front, relative to the other images. Obviously the controls within the group containing the image needs to move en mass bounded by the layers contained within the owning group. For good reasons, the owning group is not the top most layer, and may shuffle forward and back during use. I can understand why this would be a bit tricky within a script, but I am just getting nowhere. I had assumed that as long as I knew the range of layers contained within the owning group, I would be able to shuffle owned groups around within that range. Doesn't seem to be so. Trevor DeVore posted a great library back in May that solves this. http://n4.nabble.com/Relayer-Groups-Within-Group-td343083.html#a343083 Look for Relayer Selected Control in the Utility category of RevOnline. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design Thanks, Scott. Looking in revonline now! David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Relayering grouped groups
I have several groups, each consisting of an image with an external reference, and a few graphics They are grouped together in an overall group. They slide about under user control, and unsurprisingly sometimes overlap. I want users to be able to click on an image and have it come to the front, relative to the other images. Obviously the controls within the group containing the image needs to move en mass bounded by the layers contained within the owning group. For good reasons, the owning group is not the top most layer, and may shuffle forward and back during use. I can understand why this would be a bit tricky within a script, but I am just getting nowhere. I had assumed that as long as I knew the range of layers contained within the owning group, I would be able to shuffle owned groups around within that range. Doesn't seem to be so. The user guide is less than explicit, and I have tried to see how the 'size and position pane' relayers groups, but with no success. Any helpful pointers? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Corrupted screenshots using revprintfield
Rev 4, OS X 10.5 I have a results field that accumulates text and images which are imagesource references to screen snapshots ( as png) of different parts of the interface. One imagesource reference is to a png which is not a snapshot. The results field looks fine in the stack, but when I print to any printer or to PDF, the snapshot PNG references print rectangles of the correct size, in the right place but with a corrupted image. Critically, the one reference which isn't to a screenshot prints fine. If I take a screenshot of the field contents, I can print that with no problem, so it looks like a very specific interaction between snapshot and revprintfield. Anyone else getting this? Any suggestions to get around it? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revlet move freezes on Mac Firefox
My previous posting on this was too full of waffle. This is the heart of it (on Leopard Mac): In Firefox (3.5.5) there are a few glitches: 1/ If I am online, I get a waiting for Runrev.com message on launch for maybe a couple of seconds, then a plugin progress bar, then the first card. Don't see any of that in Safari. 2/ Perhaps 30% of object moves freeze part way through. Eventually the beach-ball appears, and Firefox is unresponsive for anything up to 45 seconds. Activity monitor reports FF as not responding, and then it all suddenly comes back, and the object appears at its destination. Nothing happens to CPU levels during lock up. As far as I can establish the problem only occurs if a change of object to be moved has occurred, and then only about % 30ish of the time. Moving the same object many times does not ever seem to trigger the problem. 3/ On Safari I also have the unresponsive until window moved problem reported elsewhere, and also discovered that while the revlet is running, Cmd-Q doesn't seem to work. Don't know whether that has been found elsewhere. Is there anything I can try to fix any of the above, or is it just a matter of waiting for improvements to the plug in? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevWeb oddities
I just decided to see what the fuss was about, and built a simple stack for web using 4.0. I installed the plugin a couple of days back, so I think it must be up to date (how do you tell?) My first reaction was utter amazement that such a thing is possible. It reminded me of first seeing Carlie Chaplin eating a shoe in Quicktime (circa 1992?) - or the first time I built a standalone for Windows using Metacard. Astonishing! Anyway, once my jaw had closed, I played around with the stack, which is simply a rating scale which allows users to move images up and down it to indicate relative preference. They click on the scale, and the currently selected object slides gracefully up or down. Or at least that's what happens in desktop versions, and in Safari. In Firefox (3.5.5) there are a few glitches: 1/ If I am online, I get a waiting for Runrev.com message on launch for maybe a couple of seconds, then a plugin progress bar, then the first card. Don't see any of that in Safari. 2/ Perhaps 30% of object moves freeze part way through. Eventually the beach-ball appears, and Firefox is unresponsive for anything up to 45 seconds. Activity monitor reports FF as not responding, and then it all suddenly comes back, and the object appears at its destination. Nothing happens to CPU levels during lock up. As far as I can establish the problem only occurs if a change of object to be moved has occurred, and then only about %30ish of the time. Moving the same object many times does not ever seem to trigger the problem. 3/ On Safari I also have the unresponsive until window moved problem reported elsewhere, and also discovered that while the revlet is running, Cmd-Q doesn't seem to work. Don't know whether that has been found elsewhere. I don't really have a sense whether I should be trying to find workarounds to the above, or whether they are glitches to be expected. Makes me realise that I had learned more about desktop OSs than I was aware of, because having avoided webby stuff for years, I haven't really got a clue as to where to start :-( David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: AW: OT: what is AW, was: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun (Klaus on-rev)
I prefer Wikipedia ;-) . but of course, there comes a point where Latin tyrants have to surrender to the democracy of usage. David G On 13 Nov 2009, at 5:38 pm, Luis wrote: From: Luis l...@anachreon.co.uk Date: 13 November 2009 9:56:50 am GMT To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: OT: what is AW, was: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun (Klaus on-rev) Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Hiya, Before I apologised to everyone for incorrectly advising them that 'Re' was short for 'Regarding' and 'Referencing' I checked Wiktionary: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/re So it goes both ways, Re re. Cheers, Luis. On 13 Nov 2009, at 08:42, David Glasgow wrote: And re is not an abbreviation of English regarding or reply but a Latin word meaning by the thing (which follows). Aside from in email replies, the most common use is in the law, where cases regarding children will be anonymised to a letter and be reported Re B (Sorry to be a trifle nerdy, but I do a lot of courtwork) David Glasgow On 12 Nov 2009, at 10:30 pm, Jacques Haussewrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: AW: AW: OT: what is AW, was: revlet not only on on-rev? was: some HD fun (Klaus on-rev)
And re is not an abbreviation of English regarding or reply but a Latin word meaning by the thing (which follows). Aside from in email replies, the most common use is in the law, where cases regarding children will be anonymised to a letter and be reported Re B (Sorry to be a trifle nerdy, but I do a lot of courtwork) David Glasgow On 12 Nov 2009, at 10:30 pm, Jacques Haussewrote: Hi, I did never notice... Do I guess right ? if people from California or Germany answer Rép: on my Swiss- french Mac, that means they are also using Apple's mail ? Well, they are a large majority... Jacques Le 12 nov. 2009 à 19:09, Klaus on-rev a écrit : Hi Tiemo, And Apple's Mail doesn't speak german? ;) it DOES, but in a bit more sophisticated way. RE might stand for Replik, gelle?! :-D Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Difference between XP and Vista/7?
On 2 Nov 2009, at 1:24 pm, Lars Brehmer wrote: In newer versions does in mention in the sandalone settings that just adding stacks in Vista / 7 will not allow changes to those stacks? As far as I can tell about what you are reporting, this is a Vista Thing, not Rev Thing. In the old pre OS X days, the folder containing an App also tended to contain data, docs and whatnot. All users could run the Apps and save data in the enclosing folder. Apple then bought into the idea which had been around for a long time that all Apps should live in one place, all data somewhere else (where depending on the sort of data it was) - hence the docs folder and app folder. On Windows it has long been possible for a user to have the privilege to run exes, but not write to the folder containing the exe - and in these cases ether the save location or the privileges had to change. However, XP and earlier were kind of sloppy about this, and it was easier to fix privileges on a per user basis than stick to saving things where they 'ought' to be. Vista is not sloppy, but slippery. Rather than complaining that data can't be written, triggering an error or hanging your standalone, it will obligingly write your data to somewhere else, and pretend it has done what you ask. Your Rev program has no way of knowing where the data has gone, but it sure won't be there when you try to look for it later! What you will find is your original unchanged stack(s). So, you can save changes to stacks in Vista just don't try to do it in the Program directory. You can have the stacks initially load from the program directory, or from a custom property (see Klaus Majors recent post Re: Where to place (sub)stacks?) and you can use specialfolderpath to save elsewhere after the stacks have been changed. Often the script can be made to work the same cross platform, although depending on what it is you want to save, you might not find an entirely satisfactory place for it to go on Vista, and I assume Vista 2.0 errr... I mean Win 7. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Drag/Move Cursor?
On 30 Oct 2009, at 1:14 pm, Rick Harrison wrote: I've been trying to figure out how to programmatically move/drag the cursor in a stack to mimic what a human would do, as a teaching aid. The documentation is not very clear on how to accomplish this. I have done a fair bit of mucking around moving and constraining the cursor. It can get a bit ugly, tricky, disturbing for the user and deprecated by user interface purists. Much better to hide the cursor (set the cursor to none) and then show a fake cursor which you can move between two points or along a path as you would with any object. You can even colour the teaching cursor to indicate that this is showing the user something and so won't be responsive to mouse movements. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Making a stack a custom property of a stack
A while back Klaus was kind enough to spend some time describing how to do this and then use any stack stored in this way. I was impressed at the time, and still am. In fact this is such a Very Good Thing, I want to suggest that it should be an explicit part of the IDE. I know that would only make it marginally easier to do, but it would make it a darn sight more obvious to new users. I do enjoy the ongoing discovery of Revs flexibility and power, but can't help thinking that in this case the gem would have been useful to me way back at the beginning of learning Rev. I had settled on a world picture that allowed stacks which are modifiable and standalones which are not, and to use the former they have to be installed as stacks when the end user installs the whole package. The stack as stack custom property changes the game completely, without breaking any rules. Great. But not obvious. I have in mind a variant of the custom property tab which would display and manages stacks 'banked' within the current stack, avoiding the scripting Klaus described. I don't want to go mouthing off to the nice folks in Edinburgh if this isn't such a good idea, so I would be interested in the thoughts of the wise... David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
On 21 Oct 2009, at 6:00 pm, Jérôme Rosat wrotewrote: Filtering takes the most time when I type the first and the second letter. That takes approximately 800 milliseconds for the first char and about 570 milliseconds for the second char. The repeat loop with the contains operator is a little beat slower (about 50 milliseconds) than the filter ... with. There is no significant difference when the third char or more is typed. Of course I filter a variable before to put it in the list field How about the filter with only kicks in after the second or third character is typed? The first two characters take a disproportionate amount of time, and probably don't reduce the list size substantially. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A note about fillGradient and Co.
On 28 Sep 2009, at 12:43 pm, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Wow! Surely Delivering a Message TO the Future would be even better. ...and Delivering a Message to the Past would save me a *lot* of trial-and-error. Filed an enhancement request as BZ #8305. Not if it could be one of those 'Back to the Future' things, where you start to fade out of photographs and the like ;-) David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Where to place (sub)stacks?
On 16 Sep 2009, at 6:00 pm, Klaus wrote: If I would ever need to let the users modify and save STACK files, I would go this way: 1. Create all the stacks that will be modified and saved by the end user as MAIN stacks! 2. Import each of these stacks into a custom porperty of your SPLASH/main stack ... set the cStack01 of stack splash or whatever to url(binfile: path_to_your_stack) ... 3. When the app starts, I would check if these stacks have already been outputted into the users preferences folder: Mas OS X: specialfolderpath(preferences) ## Current user only Windows: specialfolderpath(26) ## Current user only Might be good style to create a subfolder for your app there! If the stacks are not yet there, I would output all the stacks from your CPs: ... put specialfolderpath(preferences) into tFolder put the cStack01 of stack splash or whatever into url(binfile: tFolder / name of original stack here...) ## NO suffix necessary! ... 4. Now the user (your app) can open any of these stack, modify them and save them again without permission problems. 5. Pro: If a user deletes one of your stacks (c'mon, we all know how they are :-D) you can quickly replace it with a fresh copy! Know what I mean? Drop a line if not :-) ,,, Beat Cornaz Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com Klaus, This issue has caused me considerable pain in the past, but I have sorted most of it out since Vista flounced onto the OS stage with such ill placed confidence. I have just had a results stack in the installation folder, and copied it to the users documents folder if it isn't already there. (This is a little unsatisfactory in that the results file isn't exactly a user's document in the simplest sense, but it does work.) However, I have never come across the stack as a custom property in this context. What is the advantage of doing it that way? Is it that you set the property in the IDE, and so don't actually need the stack to be anywhere else in the installation once you build? Intrigued.. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Radio buttons that don't look like radio buttons
Well, how about that. Radio buttons can have icons. Did I ever know that and forget, or did I just not even consider the possibility? Either way, as my kids say, Well, D'uh. This doesn't solve the mystery properties of my ancient buttons, but offers a much more elegant, eye pleasing and flexible solution. Thanks very much Howard David Glasgow On 19 Aug 2009, at 6:00 pm, Howard Bornstein wrote: I think if you just set the icon and the hilite icon of the radio buttons to graphics of different colors, it will do what you want. -- Regards, Howard Bornstein ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Interesting radio button behaviour
I stumbled across two more interesting radio button behaviours which I didn't know before, and mention out of interest. It seems a right click on a non hilited button deselects the hilited button without setting a new hilite. I haven't found any Mac radio buttons that do this, so I'm not sure whether it is one of those cross platform compromises. It could be a gotcha if at least one of a number of radio buttons should always be hilited. Using an icon and hilited icon rather than the standard blob exposes different behaviour. Even if the autoselect is set to false, *left* clicking on an unhilited button has the same result as above. Funny eh? David G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Radio buttons that don't look like radio buttons
Revolutionaries, I have several cards containing many radio buttons, and want to have a summary screen which consists of an array of colour indicators reflecting the status of the scattered radio buttons. I remembered that many years ago I made some radio buttons that didn't look like radio buttons (they were intended to function and look a bit like the pop up - down mechanical buttons on old cassette recorders). So I set out the summary card with radio buttons which are set and reset by user actions on corresponding groups on the relevant card. That works fine. A brief script built around set the hilitedbutton of SummaryGroupOnCard1 to the hilitedbutton of the owner of the target does the trick. However, the summary display can't look like radio buttons in the final product, because users will quite reasonably expect to be able to click on them. I planned to change the properties of the summary buttons after I had finished laying out and scripting the cards the users will actually interact with. When the time came, I started to set and tweak properties and colours of the buttons on the summary card, but couldn't get the simple plain colour patch which switches on or off mutually exclusively with its fellow group members. After maybe an hour of futile clicking, I set out to find the buttons I made years ago, and to my amazement succeeded. However, I *still* can't find out how I made the radio buttons not have the little radio button blob in the middle. There is no scripting involved, and no icons. They do have hilited text and fill colours that match - if they don't, a little dot appears when selected, like old Win radio buttons (I am on OS X). Selection is only indicated by a change in the border. However, even though I have matched as many properties and colours as I can find, my new radio buttons insist on having the radio button blob. I know I could just copy the little group I have, and use them, but this is really bugging me. Was I quite clever years ago, or am I being quite dumb now? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Transcript should be called Transcript
Subject: Re: Transcript should be called Transcript Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Colin. I was saying, pointedly, that the name itself did not stick; therefore the branding was rather less successful than, say, Kleenex. I did not mean to imply that we were losing our faculties. I am actually disheartened at the new name because I thiink it matters. But maybe like Avenue of the Americas in Manhattan, perhaps nobody will ever use it. Craig I mourned the death of Transcript in 2006 http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/ msg81939.html for very selfish reasons. I'm not sure I like it persisting as a nosferatu. How about T++ or T# ;-) David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Waiting for Beta and Visiting Edinburgh
On 16 Jul 2009, at 6:00 pm, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: But whatever you do, don't think you are visiting all Scotland when you go to Edinburgh, and if you go north to the Highlands, well, take history with you. I love Edinburgh (despite my surname), but next week I am off to walk the costal path of Arran. 'Scotland in miniature' with the Highland boundary fault passing right through it. Does that count? :-)) David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re Rev timeline stack?
On 1 Feb 2009, at 12:31 pm, David Glasgow wrote: Subject: Rev timeline stack? Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Has anyone written a timeline stack/group? I have looked at the software about, which looks luscious (especially Bee docs timeline) but it doesn't allow notes etc to be added, or vertical timelines with information attached to left and right 'branches' of an event. I can't find my veteran HC 'CaseLiner stack anymore, which over 15 years ago did what I want, albeit not lusciously at all. (When I say 'timeline', I don't mean a Gantt chart, but the line with stalks and information flags, type of thing) Best David Glasgow Just a quick repost in the slight hope that the 'draw-a-curve-spat' distracted attention from the above, and that really timeline Rev stacks are two a penny. More likely not, I suspect - so any thoughts on how to approach the graphic side? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev timeline stack?
Has anyone written a timeline stack/group? I have looked at the software about, which looks luscious (especially Bee docs timeline) but it doesn't allow notes etc to be added, or vertical timelines with information attached to left and right 'branches' of an event. I can't find my veteran HC 'CaseLiner stack anymore, which over 15 years ago did what I want, albeit not lusciously at all. (When I say 'timeline', I don't mean a Gantt chart, but the line with stalks and information flags, type of thing) Best David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCopyFolder XP problem
Way back in October, Eric, Ken and others helped out with identifying special folders in XP and Vista, in which I could save shared and non shared data. (Because the system I used in my app previously breaks under Vista). Having finally decided on appropriate locations and file structures, I have started to script a routine which checks on the platform, then checks in each location for the expected folders, and copies them there if they are not present. Debugging is a bit of a painful process on Windows, because I am using Studio on Mac and testing under Parallels (XP). However, as far as I can tell, RevCopyFolder doesn't work as advertised on XP. In the Rev 2.0 language reference it states: The revCopyFolder command makes a copy of the entire folder, including all files, subfolders, and their contents. The folder remains in its original location and the copy is placed in the new location. I only get the top level (i.e foldertocopy) folder created in the new location, with none of its contents, be they files or folders. I look at the result for each instance of RevCopyFolder after each partial successful copy, which gives me the numerical value '4'. I know that RevCopyFolder seems to be very erratic on the Mac, but is my problem on Win recognised by others? Is there an easy workaround? Thanks David Glasgow Cracked it! Thought I would post the solution just in case it helps someone else. I have no idea why 'the result' is 4, as described above, but this only happens if revcopyfolder fails. And when I say fails, I discovered that if the foldertocopy can't be found, Rev doesn't complain, it just creates a folder of the designated name at the designated destination and puts '4' in the result. It looks like the command has succeeded, until you examine the (non existent) folder contents... And why couldn't the foldertocopy be found? Because revcopyfolder doesn't like relative file paths. The same script with absolute paths works fine. Hmmm. Starting 2009 on a roll. Hope no Revistas spent too much time trying to help me. David G ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevCopyFolder XP problem
Way back in October, Eric, Ken and others helped out with identifying special folders in XP and Vista, in which I could save shared and non shared data. (Because the system I used in my app previously breaks under Vista). Having finally decided on appropriate locations and file structures, I have started to script a routine which checks on the platform, then checks in each location for the expected folders, and copies them there if they are not present. Debugging is a bit of a painful process on Windows, because I am using Studio on Mac and testing under Parallels (XP). However, as far as I can tell, RevCopyFolder doesn't work as advertised on XP. In the Rev 2.0 language reference it states: The revCopyFolder command makes a copy of the entire folder, including all files, subfolders, and their contents. The folder remains in its original location and the copy is placed in the new location. I only get the top level (i.e foldertocopy) folder created in the new location, with none of its contents, be they files or folders. I look at the result for each instance of RevCopyFolder after each partial successful copy, which gives me the numerical value '4'. I know that RevCopyFolder seems to be very erratic on the Mac, but is my problem on Win recognised by others? Is there an easy workaround? Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: special folders
On 31 Oct 2008, at 5:00 pm, Ken Ray wrote: Right - in both cases, you can use specialFolderPath(35) and it will resolve properly on both platforms. Aha. That is very helpful. I had followed the link on the Rev dictionary page and found CSIDL_PROGRAM_FILES = 0x0026 which I hadn't appreciated is pure VB (?), I thought the numerical reference was a Windows thing, and represented what I would have to put in the parentheses in specialfolderpath (). I just hadn't read properly your web page which clearly states Use the entry under the No. heading with specialFolderPath I also hadn't anticipated the simplicity of the syntax being the naked decimal number in parentheses. That one example has no doubt saved me hours of fettling about. Tiemo is right though - on both Vista and XP, the Application Data (or ProgramData) folder is a hidden folder that novice users won't have changed. That could be exactly what I want for my results stack. I can see that lots of developers use it, presumable for data which are not preferences or user accessible products of the program. The general rule of thumb is: - Applications go into C:/Program Files (XP) or C:/ Programs (Vista); accessed with specialFolderPath(38) - Support files for the application that the user won't be getting access to go in C:/Documents and Settings/user/Application Data (XP) or C:/Users/user/AppData/Roaming (Vista); accessed with specialFolderPath(26) I would prefer not to save this stack on a per user basis, but have a single copy updated by all users. Would it be OK just to refer to a via specialfolderpath(26) but just trim the path to refer to a folder sitting 'above' the /user/ folder? If not, I think programdata might be the way to go. - User-generated or user-accessible files go in C:/Documents and Settings/user/My Documents (XP) or C:/Users/user/ Documents (Vista); accessed with specialFolderPath(documents) or specialFolderPath (5) That's great, and I will save all my exported charts and whatnot to a user specific folder here. - Preferences/settings go in the Registry Really helpful overall. Thanks Ken et al. The fog is clearing, and the red herrings are swimming off into the distance. Best, David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
special folders
I am attempting to make a rev project Vista compatible. The main problem is determining where special folders are, and what they are best used for. I want to store a stack which will hold assessment results for all users. Thus there must be no permissions problems for any level of user to read from or write to this file. Problems with OSX and specialfolderpath have been reported for a while on 2.9, and I am afraid it still gives me an 'execution error' using 3.0 on OSX both in IDE and application, whilst the same stack works fine as a standalone in XP. A bit disappointing, but since the problem I am trying to fix is on Windows, not a disaster. So, on Windows, I had expected to use the vanilla rev specialfolderpath syntax, but it seems to me I may need to use CDISLs, or can I just test that absolute paths to the appropriate folder exist as expected? I had hoped to use C:documents and settings\all users\documents but this doesn't exist on Vista. I can see that for XP most program data is stored in C:documents and settings\all users\application data In Vista, this exists as a virtualised folder/shortcut which redirects to C:programdata Neither directory is listed on the specialfolderpath page in the Rev guide. For some users these folders are hidden, but I have tested read write privileges and that seems to be OK for ordinary users and even guests, whether or not the folder is visible. Am I on the right lines with respect to the location? Am I OK to use the XP form and rely on the Vista folder virtualisation, or do I need to write separate routines for the two OSs, and use CDISL numbers? Alternatively, is there a better location for assessment results to be read from/written to? I looked at the new 'public' folder in Vista, but it seems that by default this isn't public (or at least not on the machine I investigated), and has very confusing permissions. Finally, what is the syntax for the CDISL version of specialfolder? I can't see an example, and using Rev Studio on Mac means it is very difficult to experiment. OH, just had another thought. I was exploring Vista Business. Will this sort of thing vary in the other versions? Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: special folders
On 30 Oct 2008, at 5:00 pm, Eric Chatonet wrote: From: Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30 October 2008 12:57:20 pm GMT To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: special folders Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Bonjour David, You should have a look at Ken's tips: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/file010.htm (specialFolderPath' Codes) http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/env007.htm (Vista Gotchas You Should Know About) Merci Eric, I had looked at those links previously. Very informative, but they don't answer my specific questions. Once I can identify the best folder to use, then I will be able to look up the details on Ken's remarkable table. On 30 Oct 2008, at 5:00 pm,Tiemo wrote: From: Tiemo Hollmann TB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 30 October 2008 1:30:18 pm GMT To: 'How to use Revolution' use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: AW: special folders Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Hi David, there is one thing you also have to be aware of in Vista. With the delivery settings of Vista the user dir /AppData is hidden. So if your user should have access to what you are storing you either have to create a new folder in the user dir or the user has to switch OFF the folder display option don't show hidden folders (or whatever it is named in the English version) Just FYI Tiemo Thanks Tiemo. I am not too worried if a folder is hidden, as long as it can be accessed for read and write via the standalone. For any files the user can access directly, I will use the documents folder. This is just for the app to access. So, are C:documents and settings\all users\application data (XP) and C:/programdata (Vista) the best bets? David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: images to movie (was Re: Unicode issues ad infinitum)
On 16 Sep 2008, at 9:20 am, Lynn Saults wrote: I think I can use iMovie to make a movie from pictures, but that seems rather tedious and clumsy, especially to get the timings I want. I would appreciate suggestions about a good way to do this, using Revolution alone or with externals or using other software. I did this a while back with Quicktime. Not the current version, but it worked in a blink of an eye. My recollection is that although you appear to be able to select images individually, QT just sucked up all the images in the containing folder and turned them into a movie. Unexpected, (and the result was very funny) but easy to work around. That may be fixed by now, I suppose. David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev and joystick or switch
I want to use a switch (lever style accessibility gadget) or a very simple joystick to enable users to respond to images by pushing away or pulling towards themselves. It needs to work on both Mac PC. Fewer buttons the better, and no flash rumbling or stuff like that. Any suggestions for simple and preferably cheap hardware that folks have used with Rev? best David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The mystery of inks
I am struggling to understand and use inks (Rev 2.9) I have no idea how these things work, but what I want to achieve is this: I have a jpg image of a human in swim-wear. The background was originally a separate layer in Photoshop, and is a sort of grey green swirlyness. I mention this because it could be changed to something else if it would help achieve my goal. I want to have a primary colour show through the human figure but not the background. So by changing an underlying grc fill, the figure should switch from blue to yellow, to green, etc. I don't mind the colour of the swimwear changing, but the skin should take as much of the underlying colour as possible. I made a little test stack which looped through all the ink effects and applied them to my image which was overlying a grc filled yellow. First thing is that I was surprised how many inks made no apparent difference to the image (7), made the image black (5), or disappear completely (7) - irrespective of whether areas of the image t overlay the grc or not. Why is that? Second thing is that three effects stood out as close to what I want. They were BlendMultiply, BlendDarken and SrcAnd. Are there any significant technical differences between these, or between their effects on Windows vs Mac? Anywhere I can read up in them? I see that SrCAnd is described as a legacy.. some legacies are good :-)) Finally, if I did change the jpg background to be transparent, or solid colour, or black or something, is there an ink effect which would show solid colour through the human part only? I did try to understand the Wikipedia article on alpha channels, but my mind went matte and dodged. Or burned, I forget which. Thanks, David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
ScreenMouseLoc ignored in parallels?
Can anyone confirm that ScreenMouseLoc is ignored in Windows running under Parallels Desktop? I use set the screenMouseLoc to globalLoc(the location of group locator) which works fine in the Mac standalone, but does nothing on XP using Parallels Desktop. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised, given the window within window paradigm, but I worried a bit that it might be a Rev or Windows thing masquerading as a Parallels thing. (Rev Studio 2.7.4 OS X 10.4.11 XP 2002 SP 2 Parallels Desktop 2.5) Yes I know, none of the versions are up to date. But in the case of XP this is a Good Thing ;-) Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Extracting pitch information from sound files
The subject line pretty much says it all, but more specifically I want to statistically analyse change in pitch, not play it, save it as sound or relate it directly to any musical system. So any kind of rational number would be fine, and I would then chuck away the .wav .aiff or whatever. 1/ How hard would it be to parse sound files recorded in Rev and extract just the chunks of data relating to pitch ? 2/ Does it make any difference if the sound is complex (like an animal call) or simple like a signal from a tone generator? 3/ Are any of the formats offered by Rev easier to handle in this respect? 4/ Assuming standard bit rates, how much pitch data would be generated by, say a ten second recording? 5/ I have settled for post hoc parsing rather than 'on the fly' processing because I assumed the overhead would be too great for the latter to work. Is that right? 5/ Are there any other sensible questions I should be asking? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unexpected widows nastiness
On 3 Mar 2008, at 6:00 pm, Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote: I don't know what's wrong, but since no one else has answered, I'll try anyway. :) What I'd do to track this down is to capture the file name of the image as it occurs in your script (for example, from the variable watcher,) and then see if you can use that file name in a simple button handler or from the message box to successfully load an image into an image object. I'm thinking the grey color is an image that may not be loading correctly. It's all I can think of to try, at any rate. Now why didn't I think of that? The image displayer changes dimensions to fit different shaped pics. If it got stuck half way through, and before the size is scaled to fit the designated area, and couldn't display the image, it might be big and grey.. Maybe I should try it on a variety of images. One difficulty with nailing this one is that I only have Studio, so I can't debug on Win. Still, I know someone who can. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unexpected Windows nastiness
My original post appears below. Whilst mulling this over in the early hours, I suddenly remembered that last week I had (long used) standalone which failed to launch. The problem was later diagnosed by the author (thanks Phil) as damage cause by a utility I had used systemwide to strip out PPC code from apps. This had saved a fair bit of space, but had killed the app. Could it be that the same utility has damaged the Windows engine, or some other component of the Windows standalone building process? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk On 2 Mar 2008, at 9:26 pm, David Glasgow wrote: Sorry for the vague subject line for this post, but I can't really put it in a nutshell. I have got so used to building stuff on OS X and then just tweaking for Windows, I am completely thrown by this problem. I am using Studio 2.7.4 on a MacBook with XP running under parallels for Windows testing. I have a card which allows a user to select a folder which contains JPG images. The filenames of these images are displayed in a number of fields in different ways, reflecting membership of groups which are specified by the name. So ADF01.jpg, ADF02.jpg, ADF03.jpg etc. are all exemplars of the 'ADF category. There can be any number of categories, and the scripts work out how many and which image belongs to which category. It sounds a bit complicated, but it isn't really. Images can be viewed independently, or along with other members of the same category. Images can be previewed by clicking on the filename, and then an order can be generated for something like a slideshow, using randomisation combined with conditions. Anyway, it all works tickety boo in IDE and standalone using OS X. In Win XP the filenames load and fields are populated as expected. Attempting to use any control, or indeed clicking anywhere on the card causes all the fields bar one disappear behind (?) a dark grey colour. The single visible field and all obscured controls are unresponsive. Clicking generally causes the 'program not responding' thingy to be thrown by the OS. Not doing anything seems to have no effect, except the fans slowly crank up to full speed. I have rebuilt the standalone, with the same effect. I have tried searching archives for something like this, but struggled to identify any relevant terms. Does any of this ring any bells? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unexpected Windows nastiness
Sorry for the vague subject line for this post, but I can't really put it in a nutshell. I have got so used to building stuff on OS X and then just tweaking for Windows, I am completely thrown by this problem. I am using Studio 2.7.4 on a MacBook with XP running under parallels for Windows testing. I have a card which allows a user to select a folder which contains JPG images. The filenames of these images are displayed in a number of fields in different ways, reflecting membership of groups which are specified by the name. So ADF01.jpg, ADF02.jpg, ADF03.jpg etc. are all exemplars of the 'ADF category. There can be any number of categories, and the scripts work out how many and which image belongs to which category. It sounds a bit complicated, but it isn't really. Images can be viewed independently, or along with other members of the same category. Images can be previewed by clicking on the filename, and then an order can be generated for something like a slideshow, using randomisation combined with conditions. Anyway, it all works tickety boo in IDE and standalone using OS X. In Win XP the filenames load and fields are populated as expected. Attempting to use any control, or indeed clicking anywhere on the card causes all the fields bar one disappear behind (?) a dark grey colour. The single visible field and all obscured controls are unresponsive. Clicking generally causes the 'program not responding' thingy to be thrown by the OS. Not doing anything seems to have no effect, except the fans slowly crank up to full speed. I have rebuilt the standalone, with the same effect. I have tried searching archives for something like this, but struggled to identify any relevant terms. Does any of this ring any bells? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Developer Dreams... Random Numbers
If you're looking for random numbers, Random.org is a great source. Or you could fire up an 8 bit Atari, which also used a physical RNG. Learn here http://www.atarimagazines.com/v7n11/randomatari.html how (circa 1990) to get round the beastly problem of *only* being able to generate true, non-repeating random numbers ;-) Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: The 'real' meaning of blend level transparency integers
On 9 Nov 2007, at 6:00 pm, Jim Ault wrote: You probably need to 1) calibrate the monitors on some computers running different OSes/monitors, 2) set the transparency+background of a test pattern (like they do in TV broadcasting), 3) then build a curve that gets you the 'human linear' transparency values. Do one according to your eye, then see if others agree with you. Thanks, Jim. Maybe I could do that by building some kind of calibration routine into the procedure itself. Maybe this could establish individual transparency thresholds irrespective of hardware, software, mindware and eyewear ;-) Now, how did those old psycho-physicists determine the Just Noticeable Difference? Wikipedia here I come Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
The 'real' meaning of blend level transparency integers
Hello folks, I am writing a psychological assessment which involves visual signal detection. Basically, a 'blob' slowly appears at a random point within one of three invisible rectangles. I have just about cracked the random generation of a loc within a given object. What I am having trouble with is understanding exactly what the blend level integers represent. I am not image savvy, and don't know if these are, or can be related to, any recognised and objective transparency units. Any recommended reading on this sort of thing? Two specific issues are 1/ A blendlevel set at 50 looks less than 50% transparent to me, and an incrementally decreasing transparency doesn't look linear to me. Is that to do with the technology or human visual perception? 2/ How confident can I be that the visual effect of incrementally decreasing transparency will be equivalent across machines and OSs? I understand this is comparing Win 2000 and later with OS X. Is there anything I need to watch out for? Thanks David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using and Controlling RevSpeak
On 19 Oct 2007, at 6:00 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Well I made a stack (which I have just uploaded to RevOnline; Speech Checker) which took me 3 minutes to make (swank, swank). It contains 2 flds: fSPEECH and YNO and a button: CHECK FOR SPEECH the button contains the following script: Great. Why didn't I think of that? As to the pausing problem, I was wondering if speech is so intensive a task, reduced responsivity is inevitable to some degree? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Using and Controlling RevSpeak
I am working with RevSpeak for the first time. I am using it to read back to the user the sate of 51 radio buttons, so they can be easily checked against the paper copy from which the data was originally entered. It works fine, assuming speech is available, and the user doesn't want to pause or abort the readout. I am having trouble with checking preflight that speech is available. The obvious approach would be to revspeak Starting Read back and check for an error. However, the docs are a little vague about the error which would be expected - and which I assume will be OS specific. So, first question is what kind of thing should I check for, before either reading out button states or gently advising the user that they don't have speech available? The second point is play - pause - stop controllability. The radio button states are each read individually within a loop, with a brief wait after a revisspeaking check before reading them. I thought I could implement a read data while 'play' button hilited and stop when unhilited (like you might do with audio or video). However, this doesn't seem as easy to script as I expected. I inserted a 'play' button state check within the loop and a contingent exit command, but the whole thing is very unresponsive, with the button state sometimes missing clicks, and sometimes responding after a delay. In other words, a recipe for furious user clicking stacking up state changes until crash (which is what I eventually got). Has anyone any suggestions? Best David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 46, Issue 30
k On 16 Jul 2007, at 6:00 pm, Phil Jimmieson wrote: Hi David, do you use a relative filename for the movie? If so, try getting the filename and turning it into an absolute one. I had a problem where quicktime movies with relative filenames would work on OSX and Mac OS9, but not on Windows - I managed to figure out the path was invalid (although it was the same relative path on both boxes). Check out bug 1161 in the quality control centre: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 Thanks Phil, and also Scott. I use an absolute path by appending the relative path to the defaultfolder. I do appreciate your suggestions, but I really can't mess about with this issue, which could easily involve a QT and/or a Rev one. Is there a message or property I can rely on to tell me whether a QT movie is going to run successfully? As I said, the movie function doesn't seem to work as advertised, so is there anything else? Ugly but effective hacks welcome at this stage.. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.u ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: QT on Windows
Oooops! Forgot the subject line. Sorry. On 16 Jul 2007, at 6:00 pm, Phil Jimmieson wrote: Hi David, do you use a relative filename for the movie? If so, try getting the filename and turning it into an absolute one. I had a problem where quicktime movies with relative filenames would work on OSX and Mac OS9, but not on Windows - I managed to figure out the path was invalid (although it was the same relative path on both boxes). Check out bug 1161 in the quality control centre: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=1161 Thanks Phil, and also Scott. I use an absolute path by appending the relative path to the defaultfolder. I do appreciate your suggestions, but I really can't mess about with this issue, which could easily involve a QT and/or a Rev one. Is there a message or property I can rely on to tell me whether a QT movie is going to run successfully? As I said, the movie function doesn't seem to work as advertised, so is there anything else? Ugly but effective hacks welcome at this stage.. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.u ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
QT on Windows
I was just putting the finishing touches to a product for a client when, on impulse, I 'sexed it up' with a little .mov in the standalone splashscreen. I use playstopped to trigger showing the splashscreen proper. This works fine on Mac, reliably running wherever I place the enclosing folder. The same can't be said for Windows. With QT installed, some boxes run it fine, and some don't. It sometimes behaves as if the filename of the movie isn't valid even though it is always contained within the same folder, and double clicking the movie launches QT as expected. I don't have time to work out why this is the case, so I decided to just skip the movie if it isn't going to run, and show the buttons and information fields which form the business end of the splashscreen. This has proved more difficult than I expected. I use Studio, so I can't debug in detail on Windows. I tried checking 'the movie', but was surprised to obtain 'done' way before the movie has stopped playing, and using the done message to move on in the splash screen causes the movie to appear and then quickly disappear on the Mac. I thought about 'try-catch' but I am not sure what conditions I would be testing for. I tried sidestepping the issue by importing a videoclip in AVI format, but the QT codecs for AVI are gruesome. Also, I couldn't make the videoclip play predictably at a specific location, however specified. It always appeared significantly offset. So this isn't about testing to see if QT is installed, it is (I think) about testing whether a player object is able to do its stuff, and if not, smoothly moving on with business. Any suggestions? (This all goes to confirm rule 437 of software development: Never sex up a splashscreen on impulse, especially if you have just promised to deliver the product within the week) Oh yes. Using 2.7.4 on Mac. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: arrowkey and selectionchanged in a list field
On 24 Jun 2007, at 2:12 pm, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi David, Mark, Richard, etc. Le 23 juin 07 à 17:43, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Mark Smith wrote: On 23 Jun 2007, at 11:15, David Glasgow wrote: Unfortunately, selectionchanged is not sent if the selection is changed via arrow keys. That's weird - I use this successfully in several projects: on selectionChanged showInfo the hilitedLine of me -- the handler that displays info about the list item end selectionChanged and it certainly works with the arrow keys, without any spcial scripting Is there some property of the list field that you've set or unset? I get the same reliable result here in many applications I use list fields in. Dave, is the traversalOn property set? The only way I can not get the desired behavior is to turn that property off; with it on it works like a champ. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal I have to apologize: you are right. I confused with a case I wanted arrow keys to act as a carousel then needed to script it. Thanks for this clarification. Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Well I'll be jiggered! You are absolutely right! Selection changed by arrowkeys *does* cause the selectionchanged message to be sent I read this in the dictionary (emphasis added): The selectionChanged message is sent to a field whenever the user makes a text selection or moves the insertion point in the field, after the selection is changed. *The selectionChanged message is not sent if the user uses the arrow keys to change the selection. To respond to use of the arrow keys, handle the rawKeyUp message and check the selection within the handler.* and believed it, so I didn't test to see if it was true, but set about scripting the arrow key handler. Now, should I feel irritated I wasted time on an unnecessary handler, or happy that Rev does what I thought it ought to do in the first place *and* this list once again comes up trumps? I think this list tips the scale towards happy :-)) Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
arrowkey and selectionchanged in a list field
I have a list field containing the names of JPGs. I want the selected image displayed. This is easy using mouseup or selectionchanged to trigger the appropriate URL being prepended to the filename, and the file displayed correctly. However, I wanted users to be able to arrow up and down through the field, and the image to change just as if the selection had changed by being clicked on. Unfortunately, selectionchanged is not sent if the selection is changed via arrow keys. This is a bit sad, but documented as normal behaviour. This means you need to catch arrowkey, and then script accordingly. I was surprised to discover that the selectedline reported in this way seems to lag one behind the actual selected line, and display an image adjacent to the correct one. I put the script in a group containing the list field, so I expected the selection to have changed by the time the message reached the group. But it doesn't. Que pasa? I have worked around it by adding or subtracting one from the reported selectedline in a switch case structure, but then had to add script to test whether the tnewselectedline variable would be taken out of range by the calculation. Happy to have got it working, but I can't believe there isn't a better way of doing things (- isn't there always in Rev?). If the selection change by arrow key triggered the selectionchanged message, my cludge wouldn't be needed at all. What have other folks done to achieve the same thing? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted/nonstandard jpg crash
On 20 Jun 2007, at 5:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I think you'll be fine; if your users do have the unlikely crash at least you'll know where to possibly begin looking. I doubt it will happen though, it's more of an historical problem. Ok, Thanks. Worry levels reducing .. 50%, 30%, 10% and normal, at 7%. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
corrupted/nonstandard jpg crash
On 20 Jun 2007, at 5:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There used to be a crashing bug (I thought it was fixed now though) where a corrupted or non-standard image could bring down the engine. That might be what's happening here. The solution is to delete the image and re-import, preferably in a different format or else created by a different program. Some Photoshop jpgs gave me trouble once, but the same ones saved in Graphic Converter worked okay. Or try swapping jpgs for gifs, or vice versa. Akk! Didn't know about this one. I am just working on a stack which will take any number of jpgs dropped in a folder by a user, then organise them (into various categories) and then display them (in various ways). It is a dead cert that it will encounter corrupted/ nonstandard jpgs. Just in case this bug hasn't been squashed, is there anything to watch out for? Does the recipe necessarily include importing? I only propose referencing images (in 2.7.4) Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cluster analysis
Anyone out there in Revland understand cluster analysis? How hard would it be to a/ script the analysis b/ draw a visual representation of clusters Even better, anyone out there who has already done it? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: milliseconds timing subliminal stimuli
On 27 Apr 2007, at 6:00 pm, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, you may well have been down this route, but the following little experiment I found quite interesting: No, that's a new route to me, and *very* interesting, because you have the overhead so close to being constant at around 6 ms. That is well on the way to allowing an automatic calibration routine for any system. Of course, on top of what the script achieves and demands the screen does, there will still be the limitations of screen refresh etc. but this is very helpful indeed. Great work! Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Bespoke front end for rev non rev apps
On 22 Apr 2007, at 6:00 pm, Ken Wray wrote: Well, yes - there are a couple of ways to do this, but it breaks down into two pieces: knowing when the non-Rev program has quit, and activating your Rev app (bringing it to the front). Take a look at the following tips for info on how to do this: Understanding Processes http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/proc005.htm Getting a List of Running Applications http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/proc002.htm Making an App Come to the Foreground http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/proc001.htm Thanks Ken. I've been away, so gratitude a little late. I will follow these up with interest. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
milliseconds timing subliminal stimuli
Thanks to all who previously chipped in on this topic. I have been doing a bit of research, using the following script: + on mouseUp -- scrollbars to fiddle with the various times -- duration of the image of the person get the thumbpos of scrollbar milliseconds -- duration of the gap between picture and mask put the thumbpos of scrollbar gap into tgap -- this is the duration of the mask put the thumbpos of scrollbar show into tshow -- present a submarine style cross to focus attention show group targit wait 1000 milliseconds hide group targit put the milliseconds into tstart show image adf03 wait it milliseconds hide image adf03 put the milliseconds - tstart return after field actualtime wait tgap milliseconds show grc rectangle wait tshow milliseconds hide grc rectangle end mouseUp. ++ What happens is that a crosshair style target appears for 1 sec. Then a picture of a person appears for 'it' milliseconds, then there is a gap of tgap milliseconds, then a mask appears for tshow milliseconds. The mask is a rect filled with a pattern. Its purpose is a technical one, called backward masking (no, not like on heavy metal records). If an image appears briefly followed by the mask, the amount of conscious psychological processing permitted by the person viewing it can be truncated. Images which would be recognisable at a given display duration are rendered invisible but still processed psychologically. Don't ask how, it just works. (If your really want to know, take a look here -- http://www.ac-psych.org/?id=3 ) You can above see that field 'actualtime' accumulates the duration of the display of the picture of the person (plus the time taken to do the timing) over successive runs.With the duration of the person image set at 30 ms, (gap = 40 ms and mask = 160 ms), I shouldn't be able to see the image of the person, at least not conciously, but I can. Now I expected to get variable effects in appearance, because I am testing on a MacBook, so my guess is that the LCD just won't keep up with these rapid display changes. What I was planning to do was shift the test stack to a CRT box, and set the refresh rate to 100Hz (in fact I think it goes to 138Hz). In the literature, I can see that images can be displayed for a single cycle at 60Hz, and the effect can work). What surprised me on the MacBook is the recorded variability of the durations, irrespective of the fact that I can see the person when I shouldn't be able to. The mean measured display time (set as above) is 38 ms, min 32 and max 50, Standard Deviation = 4.46 (over 30 trials). I can slide the scrollbar to such a short duration when I can't see the image of the person, but of course I can't know whether this is because the backward masking is working, or because the image really isn't appearing! One of the things which occurred to me is that I could adapt the test script above to do a kind of calibration routine, so that the milliseconds is set to fall in the middle of the distribution of actual durations, so that some will be a little shorter than 30ms, and others a little more. I would welcome any thoughts or comments on what I am doing, and suggestions for doing it better. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bespoke front end for rev non rev apps
Revistas, I have been approached to write a front end for a number of programs, most of which are/ will be stacks or rev apps, but not all. Some will be programs from other developers. The front end will simply be a single point from which a number of assessment programs start, and to which the user returns when they quit any given program. I think I can work out (from stuff on the list) how to launch a non rev program, but is there a way to return to the Rev front end after the user has finished, which doesn't require the active non rev program to do anything other than quit? I thought about the front end sitting invisible in the background doing a regular test using 'send in' to see if the non rev prog was still running...and then.? If that isn't feasible, what should I ask the developers of the non rev app to do to pass control back to the front end? Windows will be the main OS, but OS X/Applescript suggestions would also be of interest. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Bluetooth physiological data acquisition
Revvers, Every now and then I have raised this on the list, but at last seem to be getting somewhere. I have found some portable bluetooth physiological equipment which seems to be very flexible regarding ways of acquiring the data. The most simple involves an invisible process writing 80 bytes to a single line file just about once a millisecond (overwriting the previous data). My Rev application only needs to read relevant (2 to 4) bytes of that as often as I need (maybe 10-20 times a second for around half an hour ), and append that to a second file, which I can then parse and analyse later. I estimate that the final result will be about 18,000 to 36,000 lines of data. I plan to time it all with a 'send doit to me in tmills milliseconds' but I go a bit vague beyond that. Any suggestions about how to do the read-append as efficiently as possible? Should I try to read the specific bytes I want, or read and append the lot, then pick out the parts I want later? It may be a dumb question, but if the source file is in the same directory as the growing destination file, is it quicker than if the destination file is 'way over there' buried 6 deep in a different directory? Does an append get slower the larger the destination file becomes? Finally, what is the most efficient way of making the data read conditional? I had thought about putting a 'repeat while' somewhere, but I am not sure where. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re Parallels Desktop
I use it most days for testing, and have had but one problem: If you are doing anything which works with the global location of the pointer, it can get confused. This was also the case for VPC. Aside from that, it is great (mind you, I don't do anything processor intensive, and only develop on Mac). I haven't even bothered to update to the latest version of Parallels (if it ain't broke) David Glasgow On 20 Feb 2007, at 3:38 am, Mark wrote: I'm about to bite on an Intel MacBook, I think. Anybody using Parallels with Rev? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: finding renamed files
Thanks to all who made suggestions re the above. The detailed files looked promising, but ultimately a bit disappointing. Maybe last accessed might offer something, unless of course the file is renamed without opening. Mind you, I am only interested in files renamed because they *mean* something to the user, so I may well want to ignore anything renamed without opening. I will call that a 'feature' ;-)) I will experiment and see what works best. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
finding renamed files
I am looking for a quick and dirty method for walking a directory and finding files that have been renamed by the user. I don't need to find them all, just as many as possible. The folders are likely to originally contain matching stems and progressive numbers pjf017.jpg, pjf018 .jpg, pfj019 .jpg etc. etc, with the user renamed files standing out completely arbitrarily by not following the pattern . At the moment I do this using the eyeball test, which is remarkably quick and efficient but very very very boring because there are often thousands of files to scan. One approach I thought of is to progressively filter the folders' contents by nibbling a character off the end of the first filename. If it is completely unique (and possibly therefore renamed), nothing will happen. However if 9 other files disappear, it was a name representative of progressive pattern. Nibble another character, and so on until it is gone, and any filenames left over didn't fit the dominant pattern in the folder. Yes? No? . Any other suggestions? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fonts
On 17 Dec 2006, at 6:00 pm, Mark Schonewille wrote: Revolution doesn't come with its own fonts. As a default font, it uses Geneva on Mac OS Classic, Lucida Grande on Mac OS X and Arial on Windows. I can imagine that your Linux distribution doesn't include the font that Revolution wants to use as the default font. It might be picking an alternative, but if it does, it may display sizes and styles incorrectly. E.g. if the font of an object has been set to Lucida Grande, while this font is unavailable under Windows, Revolution will always display a 12 points text size instead of the text size that you specified. Not sure wheterh this is on thread, but it is certainly close. In a current project I am encountering *some* objects which display text OK in the IDE (OSX) and Mac build, but display at a small size - probably 12 point in an XP standalone. I tend to use Verdana, as a font with a good chance of being present on Mac and Win. I have checked my XP box, and find Verdana where it should be. I have tried setting font size in various places, allowing it to be inherited (which is the default for the App), and specifying it at object level. One of the most irritating is the labels on a 7 radiobutton group. I have set verdana 24 from the individual buttons, all the way up to the stack, but they still display as 12(?) in the XP build. Does it matter if the font is only available as an opentype? Or is something else going on? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Name Generator
On 19 Dec 2006, at 11:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/namegen.rev; I tried this and generated 50 names. I don't believe they are random. I recognise them all from e-mails attempting to sell me viagra. Especially that Israel Kelsey. Keep an eye on her ;-)) Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
XP thumbs.db file
I have recently had XP users complaining about 'blank' images in what is in essence a slide show of images contained in a folder. The standalone assumes everything in the folder is an image, and tries to display each. I had carefully deleted OS X invisible files (the file database and custom icon files) from the folder, so I was surprised something had seemingly sneaked through. I have discovered that the problem is an ordinarily invisible file created by XP, called thumbs.db, containing, unsurprisingly, the thumbnails used in the rather nasty filmstrip view. Now I know it exists, I can 'filter it without' so that thumbs.db is not included in the list of images to display. However, it got me to wondering how hard it would be to display the images stored in the thumbs.db file. If the answer (using Rev) is 'impossible' or 'tricky', either single word response to this post will do. Only waste brain and finger energy if it is more easy than might be expected ;-)) Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Unwanted Explicit variables set to true?
On 12 Oct 2006, at 6:00 pm, Malte Brill wrote: Hi David, check your preferences. Maybe you accidently checked Variable checking by default in the script editor pane? Prefs are preserved cross versions since 2.7.x so this might be the cause. This setting is not exactly the same as setting the explicit vars. You might want to check uncheck it once even if it appears unchecked. Hope that helps, Malte Malte, That is exactly what it was! Odd thing is I have never before looked in Rev preferences. I was surprised to see how many options there are, and have certainly never looked at the script editor pane before. So the mystery of why remains, but the mystery of what is solved. For me, that is enough. Thank you so much, I would have spent hours messing with this. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Unwanted Explicit variables set to true?
Hmmm. Recently, 2.7.2 on OS X started to behave as if explicitvariables was set to true. Perfectly functioning scripts opened in the editor would generate unquoted literal errors and moaning about undeclared variables. I today moved to 2.7.4, confident that the problem would go away, but it hasn't - 'put the explicitvariables' in the message box returns false. Setting it to false changes nothing. I found nothing on this in the archives since 2003. Que pasa? Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Subliminal priming
On 9 Oct 2006, at 9:34 pm, J. Scott Saults wrote: Maybe Phil Jimmieson already explained all of this and more, but thought I should share what I know. Good luck J Scott Saults University of Missouri So in a nutshell, you can time events to close to millisecond precision in rev, but can't manage screen events with that precision? Thanks for the information. Very helpful. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Subliminal priming
On 9 Oct 2006, at 9:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: Subliminal priming Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Is it just me, or does anyone else have an irresistible urge to send David a lot of money and all my girlfriends numbers? Mmmm. lot of girls numbers AND money? Nah. I think my wife would get suspicious. Best Wishes, David Glasgow Carlton Glasgow Partnership http://www.i-psych.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
