Re: VirtualBox does not run on Wayland

2024-07-06 Thread Samuel Sieb 

On 7/6/24 11:07 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

Yeah, Wayland is not quite ready for prime time. It is still missing
features. I do my best to avoid it.

(This is one of the most important features (for me). X11 has it,
Wayland does not: ).


To be clear, that's a KDE issue, not Wayland.  Gnome supports that option.

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Re: VirtualBox does not run on Wayland

2024-07-06 Thread Jeffrey Walton 
On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at 4:51 AM Frédéric  wrote:
>
> It took me a while to understand that Wayland was the source of my
> problem so I share my experience so that others can be quicker to
> solve this issue.
>
> I moved to F40 and Plasma came only with Wayland. Then, everything
> seemed OK apart that my Windows VM running in VirtualBox did not
> capture the mouse (quite annoying!). I run VirtualBox 7.0.18-1.fc40
> from rpmfusion-free-updates.
>
> I tried all options for the mouse (PS/2 mouse, USB tablet, multi-touch
> USB tablet and USB MT TouchScreen and TouchPad) but nothing worked.
> The VirtualBox menu above the VM was also not accessible.
>
> After one week of research, I found this post:
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1512787/ubuntu-22-04-2-virtualbox-7-0-18-captured-mouse-is-not-contained-when-integrat
>
> and installed plasma-workspace-x11. I now run X11 Plasma and
> VirtualBox works fine.

Yeah, Wayland is not quite ready for prime time. It is still missing
features. I do my best to avoid it.

(This is one of the most important features (for me). X11 has it,
Wayland does not: ).

Jeff
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Re: VirtualBox does not run on Wayland

2024-07-06 Thread John Pilkington 

On 06/07/2024 09:50, Frédéric wrote:

Hi,

It took me a while to understand that Wayland was the source of my
problem so I share my experience so that others can be quicker to
solve this issue.

I moved to F40 and Plasma came only with Wayland. Then, everything
seemed OK apart that my Windows VM running in VirtualBox did not
capture the mouse (quite annoying!). I run VirtualBox 7.0.18-1.fc40
from rpmfusion-free-updates.

I tried all options for the mouse (PS/2 mouse, USB tablet, multi-touch
USB tablet and USB MT TouchScreen and TouchPad) but nothing worked.
The VirtualBox menu above the VM was also not accessible.

After one week of research, I found this post:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1512787/ubuntu-22-04-2-virtualbox-7-0-18-captured-mouse-is-not-contained-when-integrat

and installed plasma-workspace-x11. I now run X11 Plasma and
VirtualBox works fine.

Thanks,

F


plasma-workspace-x11 in F40 may be auto-erased by later kde updates. 
Playground dispute.


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/M45QTYTM52LQNMJCW5UX3VQYQHDWUV42/

John P

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Re: VirtualBox does not run on Wayland

2024-07-06 Thread Sérgio Basto 
Hi,
Thank you for the report 

On Sat, 2024-07-06 at 10:50 +0200, Frédéric via rpmfusion-users wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It took me a while to understand that Wayland was the source of my
> problem so I share my experience so that others can be quicker to
> solve this issue.
> 
> I moved to F40 and Plasma came only with Wayland. Then, everything
> seemed OK apart that my Windows VM running in VirtualBox did not
> capture the mouse (quite annoying!). I run VirtualBox 7.0.18-1.fc40
> from rpmfusion-free-updates.

Running VirtualBox as server ? and what are the guest systems ? 


> I tried all options for the mouse (PS/2 mouse, USB tablet, multi-
> touch
> USB tablet and USB MT TouchScreen and TouchPad) but nothing worked.
> The VirtualBox menu above the VM was also not accessible.
> 
> After one week of research, I found this post:
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1512787/ubuntu-22-04-2-virtualbox-7-0-18-captured-mouse-is-not-contained-when-integrat
> 
> and installed plasma-workspace-x11. I now run X11 Plasma and
> VirtualBox works fine.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> F
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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2024-02-08 Thread murph nj 
If you're still not interested in the QEMU/Libvirt route, this news
may interest you, might lead to better compatibility.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39300317

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:03 PM Sbob  wrote:
>
> All;
>
>
> I am running Fedora39, I have run VMware workstation for years, and I
> have on and off had issues since VMware does not officially support
> Fedora, normally I run a patch after each kernel update and it mostly
> just works.
>
> I am also running the osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's
>
>
> I recently tried virtualbox on a spare laptop, havent looked at
> virtualbox in years, and I was impressed, a few questions for the community:
>
>-  can I run the osx unlocker with virtualbox?
>
>
>- does virtualbox have the same issues where it needs a patch after
> each kernel and sometimes
> just breaks with a new kernel , even with the patch?
>
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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users 

On 12/2/23 10:50, Sbob wrote:

can I run OSX in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? Does the same mac unlocker work?


Also, I might add, I have been doing consulting for 29 years now.  I 
have never once need an OSx computer to play on.  Their on line 
documentation is excellent.


On the other hand, most of the OSx work I have done for customers
has not been that complicated. A few things yes, but mostly
no.  And power OSx users never call me and they can do it
themselves.
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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users 

On 12/2/23 10:50, Sbob wrote:

can I run OSX in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? Does the same mac unlocker work?


Yes.  But first you must purchase Apple hardware to run
it on or you are in violation of the terms and conditions
of OSx.  VM's are allow, but only on Apple hardware.
As such, you will et little support from the qemu-kvm
folks if yo hae any issues.

You can also run Hackintosh, but it is illegal.

If you think M$ does not play well with the other
kiddies in the sandbox, you have not met Apple.

It is best to go on line and rent an OSx VM
on the cloud.



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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-02 Thread Sbob 

can I run OSX in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? Does the same mac unlocker work?


On 12/1/23 19:11, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 12/1/23 15:32, Sbob wrote:
How is the virtual networking in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? can I just click 
into settings and 'add' a network interface?


Yes.  Lots of options

https://imgur.com/sOgQTvW.png
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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users 

On 12/1/23 15:32, Sbob wrote:
How is the virtual networking in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? can I just click into 
settings and 'add' a network interface?


Yes.  Lots of options

https://imgur.com/sOgQTvW.png
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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-01 Thread old sixpack13 
...
>    -  can I run the osx unlocker with virtualbox?
> 
> 
>    - does virtualbox have the same issues where it needs a patch after 
> each kernel and sometimes
>     just breaks with a new kernel , even with the patch?
> 
I don't know if it also happens with OSX, but Vbox has issues with kernel 
Version > 6.6.x. 
guest and module compile is working though, but not without a crash on command 
line
see:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21898
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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-01 Thread Sbob 
How is the virtual networking in QEMU/KVM/libvirt? can I just click into 
settings and 'add' a network interface?



On 12/1/23 01:17, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 11/30/23 23:04, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

I don't know how well QEMU/KVM/libvirt handle other disk images, like
from VMware.


I have done it.


My Keeper:

References:
http://serverfault.com/questions/273982/virt-convert-ovf-to-kvm
    http://edoceo.com/notabene/ova-to-vmdk-to-qcow2
    http://wiki.hackzine.org/sysadmin/kvm-import-ova.html



Converting OVA for use with KVM / QCOW2

The OVA file is nothing more than a TAR archive, containing the .OVF 
and .VMDK files. Easy!


Using Evergreen ILS for example:

~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:    POSIX tar archive (GNU)

I'ts possible to use the tar command to list the contents

~ $ tar -tf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk

Simply extract those things...

~ $ tar -xvf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk

Now take a look at the created files The OVF XML file describes the 
image, it makes for some interesting reading about the expectations of 
the running environment.


~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze*
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk: VMware4 disk image
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:    POSIX tar archive (GNU)
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf:    XML document text

Recent versions of qemu are able to run directly from the VMDK file, 
buy why do that? Use QCOW2, it's better. Execute: qemu-img -h and the 
last line of output shows the supported formats.


~ $ qemu-img -h |tail -n1
Supported formats: raw cow qcow vdi vmdk cloop dmg bochs vpc vvfat 
qcow2 parallels nbd blkdebug sheepdog host_cdrom host_floppy 
host_device file


Now actually convert it, this may take some time.

~ $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk 
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.qcow2

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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users 

On 11/30/23 23:04, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

I don't know how well QEMU/KVM/libvirt handle other disk images, like
from VMware.


I have done it.


My Keeper:

References:
http://serverfault.com/questions/273982/virt-convert-ovf-to-kvm
http://edoceo.com/notabene/ova-to-vmdk-to-qcow2
http://wiki.hackzine.org/sysadmin/kvm-import-ova.html



Converting OVA for use with KVM / QCOW2

The OVA file is nothing more than a TAR archive, containing the .OVF and 
.VMDK files. Easy!


Using Evergreen ILS for example:

~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:POSIX tar archive (GNU)

I'ts possible to use the tar command to list the contents

~ $ tar -tf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk

Simply extract those things...

~ $ tar -xvf Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk

Now take a look at the created files The OVF XML file describes the 
image, it makes for some interesting reading about the expectations of 
the running environment.


~ $ file Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze*
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk: VMware4 disk image
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ova:POSIX tar archive (GNU)
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.ovf:XML document text

Recent versions of qemu are able to run directly from the VMDK file, buy 
why do that? Use QCOW2, it's better. Execute: qemu-img -h and the last 
line of output shows the supported formats.


~ $ qemu-img -h |tail -n1
Supported formats: raw cow qcow vdi vmdk cloop dmg bochs vpc vvfat qcow2 
parallels nbd blkdebug sheepdog host_cdrom host_floppy host_device file


Now actually convert it, this may take some time.

~ $ qemu-img convert -O qcow2 Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze-disk1.vmdk 
Evergreen_trunk_Squeeze.qcow2

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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-12-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users 

On 11/30/23 23:11, Thomas Dineen wrote:

"osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's"

Help me out here in that I have very little experience with MAC OS:

Are you running MAC OS in a VM?

if yes how do you purchase MAC OS License?

Thomas Dineen



Hi Thomas,

The OSx license states that you can only run it in a virtual
machine is you first run it on Mac hardware.  So you have to
purchase a Mac and install Fedora on it, then run OSx in a VM.

There are OSx hacks (Hackintosh), that you can
run in a VM, but they are illegal.

OSx does not play well with the other kiddies in the sand box.
It is an Apple thing.

Best to "rent-a-Mac" VM online to test things Mac.

-T

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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-11-30 Thread Thomas Dineen 

"osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's"

Help me out here in that I have very little experience with MAC OS:

Are you running MAC OS in a VM?

if yes how do you purchase MAC OS License?

Thomas Dineen

On 11/30/2023 11:04 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:03 PM Sbob  wrote:

I am running Fedora39, I have run VMware workstation for years, and I
have on and off had issues since VMware does not officially support
Fedora, normally I run a patch after each kernel update and it mostly
just works.

I am also running the osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's

I recently tried virtualbox on a spare laptop, havent looked at
virtualbox in years, and I was impressed, a few questions for the community:

-  can I run the osx unlocker with virtualbox?

- does virtualbox have the same issues where it needs a patch after
each kernel and sometimes
 just breaks with a new kernel , even with the patch?

I had trouble running VirtualBox on Fedora 39. I could not get the
kernel modules to build correctly. But it happened around the time of
F39 release, so that may have changed by now.

I switched to QEMU/KVM/libvirt. The nice thing about these packages
are, they are supported by the kernel out-of-the-box. You don't have
to putz around with tainted modules or signing kernel modules.

I don't know how well QEMU/KVM/libvirt handle other disk images, like
from VMware.

Jeff
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Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?

2023-11-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton 
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:03 PM Sbob  wrote:
>
> I am running Fedora39, I have run VMware workstation for years, and I
> have on and off had issues since VMware does not officially support
> Fedora, normally I run a patch after each kernel update and it mostly
> just works.
>
> I am also running the osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's
>
> I recently tried virtualbox on a spare laptop, havent looked at
> virtualbox in years, and I was impressed, a few questions for the community:
>
>-  can I run the osx unlocker with virtualbox?
>
>- does virtualbox have the same issues where it needs a patch after
> each kernel and sometimes
> just breaks with a new kernel , even with the patch?

I had trouble running VirtualBox on Fedora 39. I could not get the
kernel modules to build correctly. But it happened around the time of
F39 release, so that may have changed by now.

I switched to QEMU/KVM/libvirt. The nice thing about these packages
are, they are supported by the kernel out-of-the-box. You don't have
to putz around with tainted modules or signing kernel modules.

I don't know how well QEMU/KVM/libvirt handle other disk images, like
from VMware.

Jeff
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Re: Virtualbox not working on kernel 6.3

2023-06-07 Thread ogio.spam 
Hello Samuel,
first of all, I can confirm VBox is working disabling IBT.

Il giorno mar, 06/06/2023 alle 23.59 -0700, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:
> On 6/6/23 23:25, ogio.spam wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > there is a documented issue for Virtualbox and new kernels (6.3).
> > All VMs stuck on starting.
> > 
> > It seems to be a problem related with IBT (enable by default on new
> > Fedora kernels) that causes the VM to refuse to load.
> > 
> > One reference here: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21435 
> > 
> > 
> > I'll try to disable IBT at boot and try to use VM's but the
> > question is:
> > There is already a solution (IBT is there why?) or there is only
> > this 
> > workaround?
> 
> IBT is a security thing.  If Virtualbox is having a problem with
> that, 
> it seems likely that they're doing something that they shouldn't be
> doing.
I know. I'm waiting for it.
My first question was why rpmfusion are providing it without specifying
the issue.
But this is another film.
> 
> But also, the usual question when things like this come up.  Why
> aren't 
> you using qemu/KVM anyway?
Never used qemu. I know VirtualBox and I started to use it when vmware
was no more available on Linux.
I use vbox cause some of my VM are already provided by some vendors
(and running on linux but also on Windows for my collegues).
So converting from vbox to qemu is a job that I don't want to do.
Maybe I can try later at least to understand if there are advantage
using it.

Regards
 Ogio

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Re: Virtualbox not working on kernel 6.3

2023-06-07 Thread Samuel Sieb 

On 6/6/23 23:25, ogio.spam wrote:

Hi all,
there is a documented issue for Virtualbox and new kernels (6.3).
All VMs stuck on starting.

It seems to be a problem related with IBT (enable by default on new 
Fedora kernels) that causes the VM to refuse to load.


One reference here: https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21435 



I'll try to disable IBT at boot and try to use VM's but the question is:
There is already a solution (IBT is there why?) or there is only this 
workaround?


IBT is a security thing.  If Virtualbox is having a problem with that, 
it seems likely that they're doing something that they shouldn't be doing.


But also, the usual question when things like this come up.  Why aren't 
you using qemu/KVM anyway?

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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-28 Thread John Westerdale 
Jamie, Great idea!

Refine open projects into tools that folks all over will want to use!

Open source works when it attracts contributions and gets more useful each
time.

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:36 AM Jamie Fargen  wrote:

> Fedora has long supported virtualization with libvirt and kvm, there
> is a suitable gui interface via virt-manager to make it easier for
> mere mortals to manage VMs, Images, etc. What are the considerations
> in using these tools which are thoroughly tested and used by the
> Fedora community instead of combining these external tools which may
> not be tested and quickly available with each iteration of Fedora
> releases?
>
> Regards,
> -Jamie
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 8:11 AM Luna Jernberg 
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> > Nice thats great too know :)
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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-28 Thread Andre Robatino 
Oracle's F37 repo isn't available yet, but the latest RPM 
(VirtualBox-7.0-7.0.4_154605_fedora36-1.x86_64.rpm) works fine in F37, you just 
have to install it manually. This is common up to a few weeks after each 
release. It's also common for the latest RPM name to show an older Fedora 
version, they don't update that unless necessary, so even when the F37 repo is 
enabled it will probably contain the same "fedora36" RPM.
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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Mon, 2022-11-28 at 10:36 -0500, Jamie Fargen wrote:
> Fedora has long supported virtualization with libvirt and kvm, there
> is a suitable gui interface via virt-manager to make it easier for
> mere mortals to manage VMs, Images, etc. What are the considerations
> in using these tools which are thoroughly tested and used by the
> Fedora community instead of combining these external tools which may
> not be tested and quickly available with each iteration of Fedora
> releases?

I use QEMU/KVM myself, but frankly I think the documentation is not
very user-friendly. For those who are a little put off by this, and
don't mind using a non-FOSS solution, the free-as-in-beer versions of
VirtualBox or VMware Workstation cover the majority of use cases more
easily (as long as you don't need PCI pass-through).

poc
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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton 
Hi Jamie,

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:36 AM Jamie Fargen  wrote:
>
> Fedora has long supported virtualization with libvirt and kvm, there
> is a suitable gui interface via virt-manager to make it easier for
> mere mortals to manage VMs, Images, etc. What are the considerations
> in using these tools which are thoroughly tested and used by the
> Fedora community instead of combining these external tools which may
> not be tested and quickly available with each iteration of Fedora
> releases?

I have an existing VirtualBox VM setup for Windows 10 Pro x64. I
needed to move the image from a Ubuntu 22 machine with a Coffee Lake
processor to a Fedora 37 machine with an Ice Lake processor (and I
needed to test the Windows program on Ice Lake).

Jeff
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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-28 Thread Jamie Fargen 
Fedora has long supported virtualization with libvirt and kvm, there
is a suitable gui interface via virt-manager to make it easier for
mere mortals to manage VMs, Images, etc. What are the considerations
in using these tools which are thoroughly tested and used by the
Fedora community instead of combining these external tools which may
not be tested and quickly available with each iteration of Fedora
releases?

Regards,
-Jamie

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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-28 Thread Luna Jernberg 
Nice thats great too know :)

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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-28 Thread Jouk via users 
The F36 rpm installs/works also in F37. I installed it "manually"
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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-27 Thread Luna Jernberg 
Was wondering the same thing some days ago

On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 1:12 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm hoping someone has a contact at VirtualBox or Oracle and can nudge
> someone to have VirtualBox updated for Feedora 37.
>
>   * https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedora
>
> If someone has a contact, please ping them.
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: VirtualBox and Fedora 37

2022-11-26 Thread Barry 
On 26 Nov 2022, at 00:12, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:Hi Everyone,I'm hoping someone has a contact at VirtualBox or Oracle and can nudgesomeone to have VirtualBox updated for Feedora 37.  * https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/fedoraIf someone has a contact, please ping them.Rpmfusion has virualbox is this helpful?Howto/VirtualBoxrpmfusion.orgBarryThanks in advance.___users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.orgFedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelinesList Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.orgDo not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue___
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Re: VirtualBox and VirtualBox-Server File Conflicts

2022-10-19 Thread Stephen Morris 

On 17/10/22 21:54, Jon Ingason via users wrote:

Den 2022-10-17 kl. 10:48, skrev Stephen Morris:

Hi,

  I tried excluding the VirtualBox-server package but VirtualBox

won't install without it.



Why would you do that? You can't run VirtualBox without the server.
Please read the information of the VirtualBox rpm:

rpm -qi VirtualBox VirtualBox-server


I was just trying that as a test. The issue I'm getting is a whole bunch 
of file conflicts between the Virtualbox and Virtualbox-server version 
that you have shown you have installed. Either I'm missing something or 
the duplicate files have been introduced after you installed the packages.


I'll need to try this again. I've just reinstalled Fedora 36 from 
scratch to resolve another issue and the rpmfusion repositories I have 
now are the nvidia and steam repositories.


I've installed the rpmfusion repositories and tried the VirtualBox 
install again and this time there was no issue.


regards,

Steve

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Re: VirtualBox and VirtualBox-Server File Conflicts

2022-10-17 Thread Jon Ingason via users 

Den 2022-10-17 kl. 10:48, skrev Stephen Morris:

Hi,

  I tried excluding the VirtualBox-server package but VirtualBox

won't install without it.



Why would you do that? You can't run VirtualBox without the server.
Please read the information of the VirtualBox rpm:

rpm -qi VirtualBox VirtualBox-server

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Re: VirtualBox and VirtualBox-Server File Conflicts

2022-10-17 Thread Jon Ingason via users 

Den 2022-10-17 kl. 10:48, skrev Stephen Morris:

Hi,
     I'm trying to install Virtualbox from the Fedora repositories, 
which appears to be coming from the Rpmfusion-free-updates repository, 
and it has a hard requires on VirtualBox-Server, so the server package 
is brought in with the install. The issue is the two packages have a 
number of files with the same name so they conflict with each other. Is 
this something that should be raised with the rpmfusion guys or should I 
just wait for it to be rectified as it is immediately obvious on 
install? I tried excluding the VirtualBox-server package but VirtualBox 
won't install without it.


Since VirtualBox are in the RPM-Fusion Repro you should ask there.
If I understand right, you are getting problem when you when you install 
VirtualBox, is that right?
I have VirtualBox installed and hade no problem with the installation or 
running VirtualBox.


$ rpm -qa | grep -i virtualbox
VirtualBox-kmodsrc-6.1.38-1.fc36.noarch
akmod-VirtualBox-6.1.38-1.fc36.x86_64
VirtualBox-server-6.1.38-1.fc36.x86_64
VirtualBox-6.1.38-1.fc36.x86_64
virtualbox-guest-additions-6.1.38-1.fc36.x86_64
kmod-VirtualBox-5.19.13-200.fc36.x86_64-6.1.38-1.fc36.x86_64
kmod-VirtualBox-5.19.14-200.fc36.x86_64-6.1.38-1.fc36.x86_64
kmod-VirtualBox-5.19.15-201.fc36.x86_64-6.1.38-1.fc36.x86_64




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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Paul Smith 
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:04 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
>
> > > I wonder if this is a potential attack vector?
> >
> > I don't think so as I believe it is done by one of the kernel modules and 
> > the requirement
> > that the Guest Additions package needs to be installed on the guest.
>
> I meant in the sense that it's a channel not mediated by the firewall,
> but I can't say I've thought it through.

I have just downgraded VirtualBox from 6.0.4 to 5.2.26, and the
problem I reported here seems to have disappeared.

Paul
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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Sat, 2019-02-09 at 21:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2/9/19 8:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I wonder if this is a potential attack vector?
> 
> I don't think so as I believe it is done by one of the kernel modules and the 
> requirement
> that the Guest Additions package needs to be installed on the guest.

I meant in the sense that it's a channel not mediated by the firewall,
but I can't say I've thought it through.

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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 2/9/19 8:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I wonder if this is a potential attack vector?

I don't think so as I believe it is done by one of the kernel modules and the 
requirement
that the Guest Additions package needs to be installed on the guest.

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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 2/9/19 8:24 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
> Thanks for your answers, Patrick and Ed. I am now suspecting that the
> cause the problem is not VirtualBox, but Windows 7, since there are
> plenty of complaints on the Internet regarding file explorer
> freezing...
>
> In my case, inside Windows, the shared file is identified as a
>
> Network drive.

Yes, it appears as a network drive.  However, it is "faked" and the "Guest 
Additions" need
to be installed on the guest for them to work.

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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Paul Smith 
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 12:16 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
>
> > > Of course your case may be completely different, but it's worth
> > > checking your firewall settings just in case.
> >
> > I do not think the shared folder function of VirtualBox uses the network.
>
> I think you're right (I wonder if this is a potential attack vector?).
> It's been a while since I've used VB. Libvirt has something called
> filesystem passthrough which I've never been able to figure out, so I
> just use NFS or Samba.

Thanks for your answers, Patrick and Ed. I am now suspecting that the
cause the problem is not VirtualBox, but Windows 7, since there are
plenty of complaints on the Internet regarding file explorer
freezing...

In my case, inside Windows, the shared file is identified as a

Network drive.

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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Sat, 2019-02-09 at 19:29 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2/9/19 6:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Of course your case may be completely different, but it's worth
> > checking your firewall settings just in case.
> 
> I do not think the shared folder function of VirtualBox uses the network.

I think you're right (I wonder if this is a potential attack vector?).
It's been a while since I've used VB. Libvirt has something called
filesystem passthrough which I've never been able to figure out, so I
just use NFS or Samba.

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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 2/9/19 6:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Of course your case may be completely different, but it's worth
> checking your firewall settings just in case.

I do not think the shared folder function of VirtualBox uses the network.

I see no traffic between host and guest if I accesses the shared folders on the 
guest.

Also, if I set the FW on the host to "Block all Network Traffic" I get this on 
the host

[egreshko@meimei ~]$ ping cnn.com
ping: cnn.com: Name or service not known

Yet, I can still access the shared folders on the host from the guest.

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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Sat, 2019-02-09 at 00:38 +, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 6:56 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
> > > With the most recent versions of VirtualBox, the shared folder is not
> > > working properly as before.
> > > 
> > > My guest machine is running Windows 7, and the shared folder works
> > > fine during some time. However, after some time, the connection to the
> > > shared folder gets lost. Are other people experiencing the same? Any
> > > workaround?
> > 
> > Not with VB, but I recently spent a week tracking down an issue with
> > KVM/QEMU which turned out to be caused by an interaction between my VPN
> > and the firewall. Even if you don't have a VPN, start by checking your
> > firewall settings, including the zone the guest network is in. If the
> > shared folder uses SMB you need to enable that service (and of course
> > make sure Samba is running on the host system).
> 
> Thanks, Patrick, but if it was something related with the firewall,
> the shared folder would never work -- and it works for some time
> (several minutes). Do not you agree?

That's very similar to what I experienced, but in fact it did turn out
to be a combination of the firewall and the VPN. See the (long) thread
at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/5TR4J7KU77ZRHHMWXCOYGNQ2HFPPGZA4/

Of course your case may be completely different, but it's worth
checking your firewall settings just in case.

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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-08 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 2/9/19 1:11 AM, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> With the most recent versions of VirtualBox, the shared folder is not
> working properly as before.
>
> My guest machine is running Windows 7, and the shared folder works
> fine during some time. However, after some time, the connection to the
> shared folder gets lost. Are other people experiencing the same? Any
> workaround?
>
> Thanks in advance,

I've not used shared folders recently mostly because I don't use Windows guests 
all that much.

I've just enabled it and connected my Windows 10 guest and it has been working 
just fine
after one hour.

I'm using VirtualBox-6.0-6.0.4_128413_fedora29-1 direct from Oracle and that 
VBbox Guest
tools has been installed on the guest. 


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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-08 Thread Paul Smith 
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 6:56 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> >
> > With the most recent versions of VirtualBox, the shared folder is not
> > working properly as before.
> >
> > My guest machine is running Windows 7, and the shared folder works
> > fine during some time. However, after some time, the connection to the
> > shared folder gets lost. Are other people experiencing the same? Any
> > workaround?
>
> Not with VB, but I recently spent a week tracking down an issue with
> KVM/QEMU which turned out to be caused by an interaction between my VPN
> and the firewall. Even if you don't have a VPN, start by checking your
> firewall settings, including the zone the guest network is in. If the
> shared folder uses SMB you need to enable that service (and of course
> make sure Samba is running on the host system).

Thanks, Patrick, but if it was something related with the firewall,
the shared folder would never work -- and it works for some time
(several minutes). Do not you agree?

Paul
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Re: VirtualBox shared folder looses connection after a while

2019-02-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Fri, 2019-02-08 at 17:11 +, Paul Smith wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> With the most recent versions of VirtualBox, the shared folder is not
> working properly as before.
> 
> My guest machine is running Windows 7, and the shared folder works
> fine during some time. However, after some time, the connection to the
> shared folder gets lost. Are other people experiencing the same? Any
> workaround?

Not with VB, but I recently spent a week tracking down an issue with
KVM/QEMU which turned out to be caused by an interaction between my VPN
and the firewall. Even if you don't have a VPN, start by checking your
firewall settings, including the zone the guest network is in. If the
shared folder uses SMB you need to enable that service (and of course
make sure Samba is running on the host system).

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Re: VirtualBox and F26.

2017-07-13 Thread Erik P. Olsen 
Thanks. Upgraded to F26 yesterday and VirtualBox works OK.

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> I've been using it for last 2 months without any problems (F25
> version on F26)
> 
> *---*
> 
> *Yours truly, Alex*
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Erik P. Olsen 
> wrote:
> 
> > Any known issues with VirtualBox on F26?
> >
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Re: VirtualBox and F26.

2017-07-13 Thread Alex Gurenko 
I've been using it for last 2 months without any problems (F25 version on
F26)

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> Any known issues with VirtualBox on F26?
>
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Re: virtualbox and kernel 4.11.3-202.fc25.x86_64

2017-06-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On 28 June 2017 at 14:32, Frédéric Bron  wrote:

> I am afraid by doing what is suggested. Is it painless?
>

If you´re worried that removing VirtualBox will delete your existing VMs,
it won´t.

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Re: virtualbox and kernel 4.11.3-202.fc25.x86_64

2017-06-28 Thread Frédéric Bron 
> kmod-VirtualBox is supplied by rpmfusion.  So, you may want to ask them?
>
> I use VirtualBox-5.1 supplied by http://www.virtualbox.org and their
> repo without issues.

How do you choose to install the version of one repo when you have 2
repos which have a version of the same package?
I have installed VirtualBox apparently from rpmfusion.
I would like to install the guest additions but I get the following message:
Last metadata expiration check: 1:23:52 ago on Wed Jun 28 13:07:05 2017.
Error: package kmod-VirtualBox-4.11.6-201.fc25.x86_64-5.1.22-1.fc25.x86_64
requires VirtualBox-kmod-common >= 5.1.22, but none of the providers
can be installed
(try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting packages)

I am afraid by doing what is suggested. Is it painless?
Can I uninstall everything and install virtualbox versions? but I do
not see a version of the guest additions from virtualbox repository.

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Re: virtualbox and kernel 4.11.3-202.fc25.x86_64

2017-06-14 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 06/14/17 20:46, François Patte wrote:
> I installed the last kernel (4.11.3-202.fc25.x86_64) today and there are
> no more virtualbox modules for this kernel:
> kmod-VirtualBox-5.1.20-1.fc25.x86_64 is empty and so systemd complains
> at boot time that virtualbox modules cannot be loaded
>
> What is this issue?


kmod-VirtualBox is supplied by rpmfusion.  So, you may want to ask them? 

I use VirtualBox-5.1 supplied by http://www.virtualbox.org and their
repo without issues.

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-27 Thread Paul Smith 
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:13 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>>> Let me add that I am using Oracle VirtualBox (from 
>>> http://www.virtualbox.org/):
>>>
>>> VirtualBox-5.1-5.1.14_112924_fedora25-1.x86_64
>> As am I
>>
>> The procedure I gave you will get you going as I did me.
>>
>> I'll report this against selinux soon.
>>
> A bugzilla had already been created.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1426906

Thanks, Ed, for the information. The

selinux-policy

update mentioned in the bug report fixes the problem for me.

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 02/27/17 04:42, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 02/26/17 23:15, Paul Smith wrote:
>> Let me add that I am using Oracle VirtualBox (from 
>> http://www.virtualbox.org/):
>>
>> VirtualBox-5.1-5.1.14_112924_fedora25-1.x86_64
> As am I
>
> The procedure I gave you will get you going as I did me.
>
> I'll report this against selinux soon.
>
A bugzilla had already been created.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1426906

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 02/26/17 23:15, Paul Smith wrote:
> Let me add that I am using Oracle VirtualBox (from 
> http://www.virtualbox.org/):
>
> VirtualBox-5.1-5.1.14_112924_fedora25-1.x86_64

As am I

The procedure I gave you will get you going as I did me.

I'll report this against selinux soon.

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Paul Smith 
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Paul Smith  wrote:
>>>
 After doing the updates of today (selinux included), virtualbox stopped 
 working:

 # /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup
 vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
 vboxdrv.sh: Starting VirtualBox services.
 vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
 vboxdrv.sh: failed: modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find 
 out why.
 #

 Any ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>> Vbox running fine here on a fully updated F25 system.
>>>
>>> The message you're getting says to use dmesg for more info...  Did you
>>> do that?
>>
>> Thanks, Ed. However,
>>
>> dmesg | grep vboxdrv
>>
>> returns nothing.
>
> But after doing
>
> dnf --allowerasing downgrade selinux-policy selinux-policy-targeted
>
> the reported problem disappears.

Let me add that I am using Oracle VirtualBox (from http://www.virtualbox.org/):

VirtualBox-5.1-5.1.14_112924_fedora25-1.x86_64

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 02/26/17 22:27, Paul Smith wrote:
> But after doing
>
> dnf --allowerasing downgrade selinux-policy selinux-policy-targeted
>
> the reported problem disappears.

I just wanted to add to what I just posted.

The system I thought was fully updated wasn't.  After updating to the
latest selinux policy I ran into the same error you did.  This is my
process I went through after the update

[root@meimei ~]# rmmod vboxdrv
rmmod: ERROR: Module vboxdrv is in use by: vboxnetadp vboxnetflt vboxpci
[root@meimei ~]# rmmod vboxpci
[root@meimei ~]# rmmod vboxnetadp
[root@meimei ~]# rmmod vboxnetflt
[root@meimei ~]# rmmod vboxdrv
[root@meimei ~]# lsmod | grep vbox
[root@meimei ~]# modprobe vboxdrv
modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Permission denied
[root@meimei ~]# ausearch -c 'modprobe' --raw | audit2allow -M my-modprobe
 IMPORTANT ***
To make this policy package active, execute:

semodule -i my-modprobe.pp

[root@meimei ~]# semodule -X 300 -i my-modprobe.pp
[root@meimei ~]# modprobe vboxdrv
[root@meimei ~]#

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 02/26/17 22:27, Paul Smith wrote:
> But after doing
>
> dnf --allowerasing downgrade selinux-policy selinux-policy-targeted
>
> the reported problem disappears.

OK

Then, after upgrading the selinux again and rebooting or rmmod what is
already loaded

Try

ausearch -c 'modprobe' --raw | audit2allow -M my-modprobe

semodule -X 300 -i my-modprobe.pp

and then

modprobe vboxdrv

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Paul Smith 
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Paul Smith  wrote:
>>
>>> After doing the updates of today (selinux included), virtualbox stopped 
>>> working:
>>>
>>> # /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup
>>> vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
>>> vboxdrv.sh: Starting VirtualBox services.
>>> vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
>>> vboxdrv.sh: failed: modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out 
>>> why.
>>> #
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
>> Vbox running fine here on a fully updated F25 system.
>>
>> The message you're getting says to use dmesg for more info...  Did you
>> do that?
>
> Thanks, Ed. However,
>
> dmesg | grep vboxdrv
>
> returns nothing.

But after doing

dnf --allowerasing downgrade selinux-policy selinux-policy-targeted

the reported problem disappears.

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Paul Smith 
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>> After doing the updates of today (selinux included), virtualbox stopped 
>> working:
>>
>> # /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup
>> vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
>> vboxdrv.sh: Starting VirtualBox services.
>> vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
>> vboxdrv.sh: failed: modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out 
>> why.
>> #
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>
> Vbox running fine here on a fully updated F25 system.
>
> The message you're getting says to use dmesg for more info...  Did you
> do that?

Thanks, Ed. However,

dmesg | grep vboxdrv

returns nothing.

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Re: VirtualBox does not work after selinux update

2017-02-26 Thread Ed Greshko 
On 02/26/17 19:37, Paul Smith wrote:
> After doing the updates of today (selinux included), virtualbox stopped 
> working:
>
> # /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup
> vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
> vboxdrv.sh: Starting VirtualBox services.
> vboxdrv.sh: Building VirtualBox kernel modules.
> vboxdrv.sh: failed: modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out 
> why.
> #
>
> Any ideas?


Vbox running fine here on a fully updated F25 system.

The message you're getting says to use dmesg for more info...  Did you
do that?

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Re: Virtualbox -

2015-12-25 Thread Markku Kolkka 
23.12.2015, 17:01, Bob Goodwin kirjoitti:
> The original DVD download was 4+ GB but was missing things like the
> GNOME Desktop which I thought odd, I expected it to at least provide a
> typical basic system?

Those "things" aren't missing, you simply didn't choose to install them.
The installer can't read your thoughts on what constitutes a "typical
basic system", you need to tell it what kind of setup you want.

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Re: Virtualbox -

2015-12-23 Thread Bob Goodwin 

On 12/20/15 19:07, Ed Greshko wrote:

>What am I missing?

I don't have CentOS or SL at the moment.  But, since Centos is based on RedHat 
and the
packages are probably pretty much the same as fedora it sounds like you didn't 
choose a
desktop environment at install.

/usr/bin/startx probably is from the same package as on fedora which is 
xorg-x11-xinit.

So, I would do ...

dnf whatprovides /usr/bin/startx(or the yum equivalent if that is what 
CentOS uses)

and then make sure it is installed.

.

I was not able to do dnf/yum anything 
because Centos 7.2 could not fine my 
ethernet port.


Someone off-list suggested I look at 
"/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-, 
it should be ONBOOT=yes." The default in 
everything Centos that I had downloaded 
recently was ONBOOT=no! Once that was 
fixed I was able to collect the needed 
files to make a usable system.


The original DVD download was 4+ GB but 
was missing things like the GNOME 
Desktop which I thought odd, I expected 
it to at least provide a typical basic 
system?


I have it working now with xfce, still a 
project under work but I have gained a 
lot of familiarity with virtualbox as a 
result, my objective in this exercise, 
so it's not a loss.


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Re: Virtualbox -

2015-12-20 Thread Ed Greshko 


On 12/20/15 20:37, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Using Virtualbox in an updated F23 I've installed VM's for Fedora, Centos, and
> Scientific Linux.
>
> Fedora 21 xfce live because I happened to have it handy, the others from the 
> DVD iso's.
>
> Fedora21 boots and runs as expected. the others boot and run with a text 
> screen but
> startx reports "command not found" and a ping to other than localhost, 
> reports network
> unreachable.
>
> What am I missing?

I don't have CentOS or SL at the moment.  But, since Centos is based on RedHat 
and the
packages are probably pretty much the same as fedora it sounds like you didn't 
choose a
desktop environment at install.

/usr/bin/startx probably is from the same package as on fedora which is 
xorg-x11-xinit.

So, I would do ...

dnf whatprovides /usr/bin/startx(or the yum equivalent if that is what 
CentOS uses)

and then make sure it is installed.


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Re: Virtualbox -

2015-12-20 Thread Bob Goodwin 

On 12/20/15 17:27, Fernando Cassia wrote:
What Virtualbox release are you 
using?. An updated Virtualbox has been 
released (5.0.12) last Friday if I 
remember correctly, it contains fixes 
for running the latest versions fo 
RHEL (7.2).


Maybe indirectly it will also help 
with CentOS.
I'm just shooting in the dark here as 
you didn't provide specifics about 
your VBox version or Linux distros'  
versions.


FC

.

VBox Help shows the following:

VirtualBox Graphical User Interface
Version 5.0.10 r104061

The Centos 6 and 7.2, and the Scientific 
Linux are the current available versions 
obtained from their sites, SL just this 
morning.


SLF-6.5-x86_64-2014-02-06-Install-DVD.iso

CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-1511.iso


the Fedora21 that tuns normally is from 
an old disk I had on hand:


Fedora-Live-WS-x86_64-21-5\

Thanks for responding,

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Re: Virtualbox -

2015-12-20 Thread Fernando Cassia 
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Bob Goodwin 
wrote:

> Fedora21 boots and runs as expected. the others boot and run with a text
> screen but startx reports "command not found" and a ping to other than
> localhost, reports network unreachable.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Bob
>

Bob,

What Virtualbox release are you using?. An updated Virtualbox has been
released (5.0.12) last Friday if I remember correctly, it contains fixes
for running the latest versions fo RHEL (7.2).

Maybe indirectly it will also help with CentOS.
I'm just shooting in the dark here as you didn't provide specifics about
your VBox version or Linux distros'  versions.

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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 14:15 -0600, kevin martin wrote:
> ip forwarding on?  did you disable netfilter on bridging in
> /etc/sysctl.conf?

I haven't touched either of these, ever, and my current F23 was updated
from F22, which came from F21 etc. so any changes should have been
visible in rpmnew files.

Of course if the whole iptables thing has changed after some update,
how would I know?

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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread jd1008 



On 12/17/2015 01:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 13:08 -0700, jd1008 wrote:

On 12/17/2015 12:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I have the Oracle version of VBox (VirtualBox-5.0-
5.0.10_104061_fedora22-1.x86_64) and it usually doesn't give any
issues, but now (under F23) my Windows 7 guest has no network
access. I
have the appropriate VBox extension installed, and have shutdown
and
restarted the guest VM, but to no avail.

My guest network is Bridged on virbr0.

Any hints would be appreciated.

poc

Hey Patrick,
with this post, you opened what I had experienced
before - and it was always a pain to resolve.

At the time, it seemed to have to do with the iptables
firewall rules, and routing permissions.
Unfortunately, I do not recall how I resolved it.

I did wonder if it was a firewall issue, but I haven't changed my
settings recently. Not that that means anything necessarily.

poc

Hi Patrick,
Once you enable ip forwarding:
sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

edit the firewall rules to allow in and out from the interfaces
virbr0
and the interfaces comprising virbr0.
For example:

-A INPUT -i wlp2s0b1 -j ACCEPT
.
.
.
-A OUTPUT -i wlp2s0b1 -j ACCEPT

ditto for virbr0

However, you might want to add more restrictions to each rule, such as:

-A INPUT -i wlp2s0b1  -m state --state ESTABLISHED-j ACCEPT


Cheers,

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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:22:47 +
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> Of course if the whole iptables thing has changed after some update,
> how would I know?

Well, somewhere in there the iptables stuff was "replaced" with
firewalld. You might want to make sure firewalld is disabled
and iptables is enabled so your iptables defs will actually take effect.
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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread jd1008 



On 12/17/2015 12:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I have the Oracle version of VBox (VirtualBox-5.0-
5.0.10_104061_fedora22-1.x86_64) and it usually doesn't give any
issues, but now (under F23) my Windows 7 guest has no network access. I
have the appropriate VBox extension installed, and have shutdown and
restarted the guest VM, but to no avail.

My guest network is Bridged on virbr0.

Any hints would be appreciated.

poc

Hey Patrick,
with this post, you opened what I had experienced
before - and it was always a pain to resolve.

At the time, it seemed to have to do with the iptables
firewall rules, and routing permissions.
Unfortunately, I do not recall how I resolved it.

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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 13:08 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> 
> On 12/17/2015 12:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I have the Oracle version of VBox (VirtualBox-5.0-
> > 5.0.10_104061_fedora22-1.x86_64) and it usually doesn't give any
> > issues, but now (under F23) my Windows 7 guest has no network
> > access. I
> > have the appropriate VBox extension installed, and have shutdown
> > and
> > restarted the guest VM, but to no avail.
> > 
> > My guest network is Bridged on virbr0.
> > 
> > Any hints would be appreciated.
> > 
> > poc
> Hey Patrick,
> with this post, you opened what I had experienced
> before - and it was always a pain to resolve.
> 
> At the time, it seemed to have to do with the iptables
> firewall rules, and routing permissions.
> Unfortunately, I do not recall how I resolved it.

I did wonder if it was a firewall issue, but I haven't changed my
settings recently. Not that that means anything necessarily.

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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread kevin martin 
ip forwarding on?  did you disable netfilter on bridging in
/etc/sysctl.conf?



---


Regards,

Kevin Martin

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 2:08 PM, jd1008  wrote:

>
>
> On 12/17/2015 12:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
>> I have the Oracle version of VBox (VirtualBox-5.0-
>> 5.0.10_104061_fedora22-1.x86_64) and it usually doesn't give any
>> issues, but now (under F23) my Windows 7 guest has no network access. I
>> have the appropriate VBox extension installed, and have shutdown and
>> restarted the guest VM, but to no avail.
>>
>> My guest network is Bridged on virbr0.
>>
>> Any hints would be appreciated.
>>
>> poc
>>
> Hey Patrick,
> with this post, you opened what I had experienced
> before - and it was always a pain to resolve.
>
> At the time, it seemed to have to do with the iptables
> firewall rules, and routing permissions.
> Unfortunately, I do not recall how I resolved it.
>
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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 17:25:21 -0500
Fred Smith wrote:

> I always use NAT, I've never figured out how to make a bridged
> network function in a VM on VBox.

You have to have a physical interface attached to the bridge as well
as virtual ones. God alone only knows how you do that with
NetworkManager, but with network, you just need to fiddle
some of the definitions in the ifcfg files (the bridge definition
gets all the physical interface info and the old physical interface
config file points to the bridge).
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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 15:51 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:22:47 +
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > Of course if the whole iptables thing has changed after some
> > update,
> > how would I know?
> 
> Well, somewhere in there the iptables stuff was "replaced" with
> firewalld. You might want to make sure firewalld is disabled
> and iptables is enabled so your iptables defs will actually take
> effect.

I haven't edited any iptables rules and don't really want to start now.
I'm fine with firewalld as long as it works.

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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 13:43 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> 
> On 12/17/2015 01:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-12-17 at 13:08 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> > > On 12/17/2015 12:55 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > I have the Oracle version of VBox (VirtualBox-5.0-
> > > > 5.0.10_104061_fedora22-1.x86_64) and it usually doesn't give
> > > > any
> > > > issues, but now (under F23) my Windows 7 guest has no network
> > > > access. I
> > > > have the appropriate VBox extension installed, and have
> > > > shutdown
> > > > and
> > > > restarted the guest VM, but to no avail.
> > > > 
> > > > My guest network is Bridged on virbr0.
> > > > 
> > > > Any hints would be appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > > poc
> > > Hey Patrick,
> > > with this post, you opened what I had experienced
> > > before - and it was always a pain to resolve.
> > > 
> > > At the time, it seemed to have to do with the iptables
> > > firewall rules, and routing permissions.
> > > Unfortunately, I do not recall how I resolved it.
> > I did wonder if it was a firewall issue, but I haven't changed my
> > settings recently. Not that that means anything necessarily.
> > 
> > poc
> Hi Patrick,
> Once you enable ip forwarding:
> sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

I checked and it's already enabled.

> edit the firewall rules to allow in and out from the interfaces
> virbr0
> and the interfaces comprising virbr0.
> For example:
> 
> -A INPUT -i wlp2s0b1 -j ACCEPT
> .
> .
> .
> -A OUTPUT -i wlp2s0b1 -j ACCEPT
> 
> ditto for virbr0
> 
> However, you might want to add more restrictions to each rule, such
> as:
> 
> -A INPUT -i wlp2s0b1  -m state --state
> ESTABLISHED-j ACCEPT

Thanks, but I solved it by changing from Bridged to NAT networking and
it all started working. I may even have had it set that way before but
I haven't looked at it literally in years so who knows how it got
changed.

I appreciate your efforts all the same.

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Re: VirtualBox 5.0.10 network problem

2015-12-17 Thread Fred Smith 
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 07:55:53PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I have the Oracle version of VBox (VirtualBox-5.0-
> 5.0.10_104061_fedora22-1.x86_64) and it usually doesn't give any
> issues, but now (under F23) my Windows 7 guest has no network access. I
> have the appropriate VBox extension installed, and have shutdown and
> restarted the guest VM, but to no avail.
> 
> My guest network is Bridged on virbr0.

I always use NAT, I've never figured out how to make a bridged
network function in a VM on VBox.


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Re: VirtualBox 5.0 and UEFI secure boot

2015-11-29 Thread Gordon Messmer 

On 11/29/2015 04:41 PM, Celso Viana wrote:

How do I solve this problem without having to disable secure boot?


Enroll your own key and sign the modules.

Secure boot requires signatures all along the line: the firmware, the 
boot loader, the kernel, and the modules.


https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sect-signing-kernel-modules-for-secure-boot.html

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Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Fred Smith 
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 04:38:23PM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
wrote:
 
 Virtual box seems to work ok but it only produces a 12 inch window
 on this 23 inch monitor and after extensive googling I have not
 found a way to make it bigger.
 
 Perhaps someone can tell me how?
 
 Bob

Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should
be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without
it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions.

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Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote:

Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should
be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without
it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions.


No, that sounds like something I might find in yum?

I'll have a look there first.

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Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Kevin Martin 
On 09/09/2014 03:46 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 
 On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote:
 Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should
 be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want. without
 it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions.
 
 No, that sounds like something I might find in yum?
 
 I'll have a look there first.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bob
 
It should be a selectable iso for mounting to your cd.  It won't be found in 
yum.  It would have been part of the VirtualBox rpm or
tar that you installed.

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Re: Virtualbox size -

2014-09-09 Thread Steven Stern 
On 09/09/2014 03:46 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 
 On 09/09/14 16:42, Fred Smith wrote:
 Did you install the Guest Additions ? with that installed you should
 be able to drag the window edges/corners to whatever size you want.
 without
 it you'll get only certain standard (low) resolutions.
 
 No, that sounds like something I might find in yum?
 
 I'll have a look there first.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bob
 
Guest Additions are part of the Virtual Box package. You need to mount
the cd in the guest.  https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-06 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 09/05/14 20:32, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Sep 5, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:


What am I doing wrong, this shouldn't be so complicated? Or is it?

It think it's complicated. I honestly think you're better off using Boxes, 
which is installed by default with Fedora 20. Maybe also Fedora 19. In any 
case, yum install gnome-boxes. Baring that, even virtual machine manager is 
ultimately less hassle than VirtualBox. However conversely, using VirtualBox on 
Windows or OS X to run Fedora or CentOS is pretty straightforward.

Chris Murphy



wow, that seems to install the VM system more easily than VMware or 
VBox! Why has it been kept a secret? Or have I missed something by not 
normally running Gnome?


Now that it's installed Centos-7 I just need to figure out how to use 
it. I get a block in the upper left labeled Centos 7, from that point I 
am like a rat in a maze, haven't found my way yet ...


Thanks,

Bob


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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Nathan Schwarz 
A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would
really help.
Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now?
What iso did you download? So many questions...

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On 09-05/10:29, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 I would like to avoid burning a DVD, rather install [centos7 in this case]
 from the .iso downloaded to my HD. Is this not possible? All google wants to
 do is help me install Windows.
 
 I can burn a DVD easily enough but it seems it should not be necessary ...
 
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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 09/05/14 10:32, Nathan Schwarz wrote:

A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would
really help.
Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now?
What iso did you download? So many questions...




Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box as derived via yum for 
Fedora-20 64bit, the computer described in the signature at the bottom.


I've suffered wit this question for a while, usually give up and just 
burn a disk to install a VM but as I said I would rather work with the 
.iso I already have on my hd.


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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Fred Smith 
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 10:42:36AM -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
wrote:
 
 On 09/05/14 10:32, Nathan Schwarz wrote:
 A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would
 really help.
 Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now?
 What iso did you download? So many questions...
 
 
 
 Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box as derived via yum
 for Fedora-20 64bit, the computer described in the signature at the
 bottom.
 
 I've suffered wit this question for a while, usually give up and
 just burn a disk to install a VM but as I said I would rather work
 with the .iso I already have on my hd.

So, lessee here...

you want to install some Linux into a VM on VirtualBox?? without having
to waste a blank CD/DVD?

easy to do...

in VB, once you've created the VM but before you do the install, select
the VM into which you wish to install, click Settings, click Storage,
under the Storage tree select whatever is shown as the contents of the
ide controller (in my case it's empty), then under Attributes,
click the little CD icon and browse to the ISO you want to install by
clicking choose a virtual CD/DVD disk file. Then click the OK button,
and fire up your VM and do the installation. Bob's your uncle! :)


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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Sudhir Khanger 
On Friday, September 05, 2014 10:42:36 AM Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
wrote:
 On 09/05/14 10:32, Nathan Schwarz wrote:
  A little bit more information about what exactly you try to do would
  really help.
  Are you trying to create a VM with fedora? What OS are you on right now?
  What iso did you download? So many questions...
 
 Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box as derived via yum for
 Fedora-20 64bit, the computer described in the signature at the bottom.
 
 I've suffered wit this question for a while, usually give up and just
 burn a disk to install a VM but as I said I would rather work with the
 .iso I already have on my hd.
 
 Bob

If you want to use an ISO instead of a DVD to install a CentOS VM in 
VirtualBox you just have to add the ISO in VM SettingsStorageController: 
IDE CD/DVD Drive Choose a virtual disk file.

Here is a video to get you to exact place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oobxm02UrBE

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 09/05/14 11:11, Fred Smith wrote:

So, lessee here...

you want to install some Linux into a VM on VirtualBox?? without having
to waste a blank CD/DVD?

easy to do...

in VB, once you've created the VM but before you do the install, select
the VM into which you wish to install, click Settings, click Storage,
under the Storage tree select whatever is shown as the contents of the
ide controller (in my case it's empty), then under Attributes,
click the little CD icon and browse to the ISO you want to install by
clicking choose a virtual CD/DVD disk file. Then click the OK button,
and fire up your VM and do the installation. Bob's your uncle!:)



Ok, so now when I click on start:

Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)

The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is probably not loaded.
If you installed or VirtualBox package recently you need to restart the 
computer for the driver to load.




I see this:

[bobg@box10 ~]$ locate vboxdrv
/etc/udev/rules.d/90-vboxdrv.rules

What am I doing wrong, this shouldn't be so complicated? Or is it?

Thanks,

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Martin 
On 09/05/2014 10:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 
 On 09/05/14 11:11, Fred Smith wrote:
 So, lessee here...

 you want to install some Linux into a VM on VirtualBox?? without having
 to waste a blank CD/DVD?

 easy to do...

 in VB, once you've created the VM but before you do the install, select
 the VM into which you wish to install, click Settings, click Storage,
 under the Storage tree select whatever is shown as the contents of the
 ide controller (in my case it's empty), then under Attributes,
 click the little CD icon and browse to the ISO you want to install by
 clicking choose a virtual CD/DVD disk file. Then click the OK button,
 and fire up your VM and do the installation. Bob's your uncle!:)
 
 
 Ok, so now when I click on start:
 
 Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
 
 The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is probably not loaded.
 If you installed or VirtualBox package recently you need to restart the 
 computer for the driver to load.
 
 
 
 I see this:
 
 [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate vboxdrv
 /etc/udev/rules.d/90-vboxdrv.rules
 
 What am I doing wrong, this shouldn't be so complicated? Or is it?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bob
 
How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)?  Have 
you recently updated your kernel?  If you've done the
latter then you'll need to either reboot and let akmod rebuild a VirtualBox 
kmod or you'll need to reinstall the VirtualBox app that
you downloaded from virtualbox.org to get the vboxdrv rebuilt and loaded.

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Stern 
On 09/05/2014 10:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 
 On 09/05/14 11:11, Fred Smith wrote:
 So, lessee here...

 you want to install some Linux into a VM on VirtualBox?? without having
 to waste a blank CD/DVD?

 easy to do...

 in VB, once you've created the VM but before you do the install, select
 the VM into which you wish to install, click Settings, click Storage,
 under the Storage tree select whatever is shown as the contents of the
 ide controller (in my case it's empty), then under Attributes,
 click the little CD icon and browse to the ISO you want to install by
 clicking choose a virtual CD/DVD disk file. Then click the OK button,
 and fire up your VM and do the installation. Bob's your uncle!:)
 
 
 Ok, so now when I click on start:
 
 Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
 
 The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is probably not loaded.
 If you installed or VirtualBox package recently you need to restart the
 computer for the driver to load.
 
 
 
 I see this:
 
 [bobg@box10 ~]$ locate vboxdrv
 /etc/udev/rules.d/90-vboxdrv.rules
 
 What am I doing wrong, this shouldn't be so complicated? Or is it?
 

sudo service vboxdrv setup will rebuild the drivers
sudo service vboxdrv start will start it


There are probably systemctl versions of those, but that's what my
fingers type and they still work.  (I use the version from virtualbox.org.)


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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 10:42 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
wrote:
 Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box as derived via yum
 for 
 Fedora-20 64bit, the computer described in the signature at the
 bottom.

It wasn't clear from your OP if your problem is in getting VBox to run
or in installing a new OS once it is running.

Did you get the package from the Fedora repo or from the VirtualBox.org
repo? They are slightly different. I use the latter and at least in my
case I don't need to restart the system, but clearly the vbox kernel
modules have to be loaded somehow, normally
via /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service, which just goes through systemd.

poc

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote:

How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)?  Have 
you recently updated your kernel?  If you've done the
latter then you'll need to either reboot and let akmod rebuild a VirtualBox 
kmod or you'll need to reinstall the VirtualBox app that
you downloaded from virtualbox.org to get the vboxdrv rebuilt and loaded.

Kevin
Dunno how but I am certain it was via yum, but from where? I guess what 
I need to do is find the kmod/akmod version and install that. I'm sure 
the kernel has been updated several times since VBox was installed. And 
I know from experience that without the auto update feature I will have 
problems.


I wasted my money on a copy of VMware that became useless after most 
kernel updates, finally gave up trying to deal with that.


Tnx,

Bob

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Steven Stern 
On 09/05/2014 11:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 10:42 -0400, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
 wrote:
 Gosh, I thought I covered all that, Virtual Box as derived via yum
 for 
 Fedora-20 64bit, the computer described in the signature at the
 bottom.
 
 It wasn't clear from your OP if your problem is in getting VBox to run
 or in installing a new OS once it is running.
 
 Did you get the package from the Fedora repo or from the VirtualBox.org
 repo? They are slightly different. I use the latter and at least in my
 case I don't need to restart the system, but clearly the vbox kernel
 modules have to be loaded somehow, normally
 via /etc/init.d/vboxautostart-service, which just goes through systemd.
 
 poc
 
If DKMS is installed, updating the kernel will automagically update the
vbox kernel modules, at least for the version from virtualbox.org.

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Sudhir Khanger 
On Friday, September 05, 2014 05:02:06 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 Did you get the package from the Fedora repo or from the VirtualBox.org
 repo?

You might be talking about RPMFusion version and Virtualbox.org version. Yes,  
I agree Virtualbox version works better.

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Martin 
On 09/05/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 
 On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote:
 How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)?  
 Have you recently updated your kernel?  If you've done the
 latter then you'll need to either reboot and let akmod rebuild a VirtualBox 
 kmod or you'll need to reinstall the VirtualBox app that
 you downloaded from virtualbox.org to get the vboxdrv rebuilt and loaded.

 Kevin
 Dunno how but I am certain it was via yum, but from where? I guess what I 
 need to do is find the kmod/akmod version and install
 that. I'm sure the kernel has been updated several times since VBox was 
 installed. And I know from experience that without the auto
 update feature I will have problems.
 
 I wasted my money on a copy of VMware that became useless after most kernel 
 updates, finally gave up trying to deal with that.
 
 Tnx,
 
 Bob
 
I gave up on the version from rpmfusion since they are unable to keep up with 
kernel updates from what I can tell and the akmod
would fail to rebuild.  I downloaded the version from VirtualBox.org, checked 
to see what patches I might need for the kernel I'm
on, patched and built it and it's working flawlessly at this time.  It's 
important to note that Oracle/VirtualBox *also don't tend
to keep up with the kernel versions very well but there are a number of people 
who do figure out where the patches need to be and
submit patches on the forums to get things working.  It's much easier to patch, 
at least I think it is, the virtualbox.org version
than it is to try to de-rpm the rpmfusion version, patch it, and re-rpm it back 
to a state where it can be reinstalled with yum/dnf
and work (temporarily).

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 09/05/14 14:45, Kevin Martin wrote:

I gave up on the version from rpmfusion since they are unable to keep up with 
kernel updates from what I can tell and the akmod
would fail to rebuild.  I downloaded the version from VirtualBox.org, checked 
to see what patches I might need for the kernel I'm
on, patched and built it and it's working flawlessly at this time.  It's 
important to note that Oracle/VirtualBox *also don't tend
to keep up with the kernel versions very well but there are a number of people 
who do figure out where the patches need to be and
submit patches on the forums to get things working.  It's much easier to patch, 
at least I think it is, the virtualbox.org version
than it is to try to de-rpm the rpmfusion version, patch it, and re-rpm it back 
to a state where it can be reinstalled with yum/dnf
and work (temporarily).

Kevin


I had to quit and make a trip to town which accounts for my not 
responding for a while.


I'm confused about what version I'm running. The XFCE menu shows Oracle 
VM VirtualBox. When I tried to RPM install the kmod/akmod stuff it was 
already there. Apparently the Oracle version is what is giving me trouble?


When I select Virtual Machine Manager I can bring up centos7 and it 
seems to work. It looks like I have two versions of VBox? I'm not sure 
how to determine that and don't remember installing either one but 
obviously did. I probably did it while trying to accomplish something 
that needed it and VBox was peripheral to what I was doing, dunno, I'm 
drawing a blank.


Anyway selecting Virtual Machine Manager produces a working VM.

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Sudhir Khanger 
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:
 I'm confused about what version I'm running. The XFCE menu shows Oracle VM
 VirtualBox. When I tried to RPM install the kmod/akmod stuff it was already
 there. Apparently the Oracle version is what is giving me trouble?

yum info `rpm -qa | grep -i virtualbox`

This command will tell you everything you want to know. Also
HelpAbout Virtualbox will also tell you if you are running RPMFusion
version or Oracle's repo VB.

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 09/05/14 16:28, Sudhir Khanger wrote:

yum info `rpm -qa | grep -i virtualbox`

It appears to be rpmfusion:

[bobg@box10 ~]$ yum info `rpm -qa | grep -i virtualbox`
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
Name: VirtualBox
Arch: x86_64
Version : 4.3.14
Release : 1.fc20
Size: 86 M
Repo: installed
From repo   : rpmfusion-free-updates
Summary : A general-purpose full virtualizer for PC hardware
URL : http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox
License : GPLv2 or (GPLv2 and CDDL)
Description : A general-purpose full virtualizer and emulator for 32-bit and
: 64-bit x86 based PC-compatible machines.

Name: VirtualBox-kmodsrc
Arch: x86_64
Version : 4.3.14
Release : 1.fc20
Size: 618 k
Repo: installed
From repo   : rpmfusion-free-updates
Summary : VirtualBox kernel module source code
URL : http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox
License : GPLv2 or (GPLv2 and CDDL)
Description : Source tree used for building kernel module packages 
(VirtualBox-kmod)

: which is generated during the build of main package.

Name: akmod-VirtualBox
Arch: x86_64
Version : 4.3.14
Release : 1.fc20.1
Size: 15 k
Repo: installed
From repo   : rpmfusion-free-updates
Summary : Akmod package for VirtualBox kernel module(s)
URL : http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox
License : GPLv2 or CDDL
Description : This package provides the akmod package for the VirtualBox 
kernel modules.




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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 13:45 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
 On 09/05/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
  
  On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote:
  How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)?  
  Have you recently updated your kernel?  If you've done the
  latter then you'll need to either reboot and let akmod rebuild a 
  VirtualBox kmod or you'll need to reinstall the VirtualBox app that
  you downloaded from virtualbox.org to get the vboxdrv rebuilt and loaded.
 
  Kevin
  Dunno how but I am certain it was via yum, but from where? I guess what I 
  need to do is find the kmod/akmod version and install
  that. I'm sure the kernel has been updated several times since VBox was 
  installed. And I know from experience that without the auto
  update feature I will have problems.
  
  I wasted my money on a copy of VMware that became useless after most kernel 
  updates, finally gave up trying to deal with that.
  
  Tnx,
  
  Bob
  
 I gave up on the version from rpmfusion since they are unable to keep up with 
 kernel updates from what I can tell and the akmod
 would fail to rebuild.  I downloaded the version from VirtualBox.org, checked 
 to see what patches I might need for the kernel I'm
 on, patched and built it and it's working flawlessly at this time.  It's 
 important to note that Oracle/VirtualBox *also don't tend
 to keep up with the kernel versions very well but there are a number of 
 people who do figure out where the patches need to be and
 submit patches on the forums to get things working.  It's much easier to 
 patch, at least I think it is, the virtualbox.org version
 than it is to try to de-rpm the rpmfusion version, patch it, and re-rpm it 
 back to a state where it can be reinstalled with yum/dnf
 and work (temporarily).
 
 Kevin

Just to be clear: if you keep to the standard Fedora kernels there's no
need to patch anything. VBox Just Works(tm) and updates via yum as it
should. The DKMS stuff takes care of everything else automatically.

poc

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 22:02 +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
 On Friday, September 05, 2014 05:02:06 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  Did you get the package from the Fedora repo or from the VirtualBox.org
  repo?
 
 You might be talking about RPMFusion version and Virtualbox.org version. Yes, 
  
 I agree Virtualbox version works better.

IIRC there is actually a Fedora package as well, based on the free
version of VBox. It doesn't support USB devices which is why I use the
Oracle one. The RPMfusion one seems to be problematic to keep up to date
from what various people say.

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Kevin Martin 
On 09/05/2014 05:06 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 13:45 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
 On 09/05/2014 11:06 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

 On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote:
snip
 
 Just to be clear: if you keep to the standard Fedora kernels there's no
 need to patch anything. VBox Just Works(tm) and updates via yum as it
 should. The DKMS stuff takes care of everything else automatically.
 
 poc
 
Standard fedora kernels meaning not rawhide kernels then?

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Pete Travis 
On Sep 5, 2014 10:07 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:


 On 09/05/14 11:52, Kevin Martin wrote:

 How did you install VirtualBox (via kmod/akmod or from virtualbox.org)?
Have you recently updated your kernel?  If you've done the
 latter then you'll need to either reboot and let akmod rebuild a
VirtualBox kmod or you'll need to reinstall the VirtualBox app that
 you downloaded from virtualbox.org to get the vboxdrv rebuilt and loaded.

 Kevin

 Dunno how but I am certain it was via yum, but from where? I guess what I
need to do is find the kmod/akmod version and install that. I'm sure the
kernel has been updated several times since VBox was installed. And I know
from experience that without the auto update feature I will have problems.

 I wasted my money on a copy of VMware that became useless after most
kernel updates, finally gave up trying to deal with that.

 Tnx,


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me if you've been asked before, but why not use the solution built in to
Fedora? QEMU/KVM do a great job and using virt-manager  or GNOME Boxes is
easy.

I can point you to some documentation or help in a dedicated thread if you
are interested.

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:39:37 -0600
Pete Travis wrote:

 This sounds like you're just looking for *some* way to run a VM.

I don't know about him, but some software I need to run in
a Windows 7 VM needs 3D acceleration to work (not fast, just
at all :-).

That doesn't seem to function with QXL/Spice, and I've seen
rumor that virtualbox has a way to do it, so I was thinking
of giving it a try.
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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 19:03 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Fri, 5 Sep 2014 16:39:37 -0600
 Pete Travis wrote:
 
  This sounds like you're just looking for *some* way to run a VM.
 
 I don't know about him, but some software I need to run in
 a Windows 7 VM needs 3D acceleration to work (not fast, just
 at all :-).
 
 That doesn't seem to function with QXL/Spice, and I've seen
 rumor that virtualbox has a way to do it, so I was thinking
 of giving it a try.

IIRC 3D support in VBox is experimental (you have to enable it in the
control panel), so it may or may not work for you.

poc

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Re: VirtualBox -

2014-09-05 Thread Chris Murphy 

On Sep 5, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 
bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:

 What am I doing wrong, this shouldn't be so complicated? Or is it?

It think it's complicated. I honestly think you're better off using Boxes, 
which is installed by default with Fedora 20. Maybe also Fedora 19. In any 
case, yum install gnome-boxes. Baring that, even virtual machine manager is 
ultimately less hassle than VirtualBox. However conversely, using VirtualBox on 
Windows or OS X to run Fedora or CentOS is pretty straightforward.

Chris Murphy

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Re: Virtualbox mac address -

2014-01-29 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA 


On 29/01/14 14:06, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
I have vbox in this F20 computer and have two copies of Centos 
installed as vm's. It appears that vbox assigns  a MAC address for 
each VM? How do I control that assignment, if I can? Some how it has 
assigned one a Mac address with the same address as an NFS server and 
I can't seem to remove that.


Bob


Aha, a stroke of genius! I realized I could simply re-install the VM! Duh!

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Re: Virtualbox mac address -

2014-01-29 Thread Steven Stern 
On 01/29/2014 01:06 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
 I have vbox in this F20 computer and have two copies of Centos installed
 as vm's. It appears that vbox assigns  a MAC address for each VM? How do
 I control that assignment, if I can? Some how it has assigned one a Mac
 address with the same address as an NFS server and I can't seem to
 remove that.
 
 Bob
 

In the VirtualBox Monitor, for the VM in question, use SETTINGS -
NETWORK.  You can set/change/pick-a-random value for the MAC address.
The VM has to be shut down (not just in a saved state) to do that.

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Re: VirtualBox and the USB flash drive -

2013-08-02 Thread Reindl Harald 


Am 01.08.2013 22:58, schrieb Bill Oliver:
 On Thu, 1 Aug 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
 Am 01.08.2013 21:35, schrieb Bill Oliver:
 I don't understand your complaint -- that there's a config directory *and* 
 a disk directory?  I don't find that an
 overwhelming burden.
 The command cp -R doesn't seem to be too onerous a way to transfer stuff 
 from machine to machine

 if you ever work with more than 20 virtual machines on serveral hosts
 for testing, development as well as for production you will understand

 
 Sorry, that's a pretty bullshit answer

if i would gibve such a answer the hell would freeze over again on this list

 Apps should work for the people who use them.  You are right -- it may  be
 that there are all sorts of systems that work better for people who run ten 
 thousand machines 
 on a thousand servers

it works also better with *one* VM because you simply copy *one*
folder for a complete backup

 I don't care.  What I care about is what suits *my* needs.  And Virtualbox 
 works great for me.  It
 usually installs with minimal hassle (current discussion notwithstanding)

i saw in the thread with vboxdrv after kernel-updates
while you type simply vmware as root and all kernel
modules are built, all services are started and you
are done

 don't care about what's the most elegant.  I don't care about what's the most 
 sophisticated solution.  
 I don't care about showing how technologically savvy a system administrator I 
 am.  What I care 
 about is solving a problem and moving on to more important things as quickly 
 as I can  

mee too, that is why i throw away vbox on my notebook a few years ago

 VirtualBox does that for me:
 
 1) Download app.  check
 2) Click on icon.  check
 3) Put in OS disk. check
 4) Click on icon.  check
 5) Drink a beer. check
 6) Watch a bearded guy dance with a raccoon on YouTube.  check.
 7) Move on to next problem.  check.

VMware doe sexactly the same but better organized

* a virtual machine has properties
* CD/DVD drives and virtual disks are propertys
* you insert a ISO in the properties of the drive
* no delaing with a media manager

 Your response is a little like responding to a post by me saying that I 
 pruned the trees in my garden, threw the
 limbs in  my little Ford Ranger and hauled the trash to the dump by arguing 
 that a Mack Terrapro can haul 23,000
 lbs of rotting garbage, has a much sturdier transmission, an indestructable 
 drivetrain and twin trumpet horns. 
 Well, yeah.  Whatever. And if I ever have the need to haul 23,000 lbs of 
 garbage on a regular basis, and want to
 see my dog have seizures every time I honk the horn, I'll look into one.  
 Until then, I'm going to throw my stuff
 in the back of my Ranger and tool on down to the landfill happy as I can be

your response sounds like someone wich never saw other virtualization than vbox
and you are pissed off that others call it crap

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=OTk5Mw
Linux kernel developers have marked Oracle's VirtualBox Linux kernel driver as
tainted crap due to the overwhelming number of problems this module has caused

well, the vmware guest drivers are in the linux upstream kernel



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