Re: [users] Improvements in OpenOffice

[Frank Cox]

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:34:14 +0100
"Lennart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> see a need for some improvements in OpenOffice and wonder where I can direct 
> my sugestions so the developers will get it. If someone knows?

http://contributing.openoffice.org/index.html

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Re: [users] [moderated]

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:06:14 -0700
"Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have just purchased a cd entitled OpenOffice2008.  I really thought this cd 
> would install open office on my computer but as it did not, I am confused on 
> how to use it. Where is all similar to microsoft office?

You can download your free copy of the latest version of OpenOffice here:

http://www.openoffice.org

It's absolutely free of charge.  There are no hidden costs or catches.  You
don't need to pay anyone for it, ever.

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Fwd: [users] My document in OOo 2.1 corrupted

[Pu Taang Zomi]

**
*Dear Guy Voets,*
**
*Thank you very much for your response.*
**
*Yes, both copies (HD and email) are corrupted.*
**
*I have just put it on **http://www.mytempdir.com*
*. The file ID is 2048877. *
*So the file is on *
*http://www.mytempdir.com/2048877* 

*Sincerely,*
**
*Pu Taang Zomi*



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From: Guy Voets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Oct 17, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [users] My document in OOo 2.1 corrupted
To: users@openoffice.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007/10/13, Pu Taang Zomi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> *My document in OOo 2.1 corrupted*
> **
> *1. I saved my document in OOo Writer 2.1 on my hard disk and also as
> attchment in my email. I am now using 2.3.*

Hello,

Normally, odt saved in 2.1 can be opened without problem in another 2.xversion.

Are both your copies (HD and email) corrupted?
Can you put the odt on a server where we can download it from to
examine it (if it isn't too confidential)? Try
http://www.yousendit.com or http://www.mytempdir.com or such like.

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and brazilian OOo 2.3 RC 3 on a G4 PPC Powerbook Tiger
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Re: [users] Unable to Install OO 2.3 on Windows ME laptop.

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:26:51 -0700
"Ronald Frye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  "This package requires a newer version of the Windows Installer. Do you want 
> to update?" When I click on "Yes", the next error message I get is, "The 
> specified service already exits". When I click on "OK", the next error 
> message I get is, "Setup was unable to find the file "." When I click on 
> "OK", I am left with no other options. What do I do?

It sounds like you may need to run the Windows Updater program to update your
copy of Microsoft Windows from Microsoft's servers before you can install OO
2.3.
 
> (I had an earlier version of OO (1.x) installed, and it worked fine. Is there 
> a way to download an earlier version, or can we fix the installation problem 
> with version 2.3?)

http://download.openoffice.org/1.1.5/index.html

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[users] Improvements in OpenOffice

[Lennart]

I see a need for some improvements in OpenOffice and wonder where I can direct 
my sugestions so the developers will get it. If someone knows?
For example, to have the possibility of having a different header on the first 
page of a chapter (within one and the same pagestyle, without having to include 
an extra page style just for that.) In Softmaker's Textmaker 2008 this 
possibility has been added, and they make it great news. And it is already in 
MS Word (of course.) 
Another function would be, being able to globally change marigins in a document 
with several chapters (page styles.)
So, where can I direct my suggestions so the developers will include it in OO? 
It will never be a REAL success without these functions.
Lennart Stagling
 

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Re: [users] Shit program!

[Frank Cox]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:27:59 +0200
"Tjingsted Ehlers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Me thinkz that it sucks that you have to spend hours on tryingz to get tha
> freaking, spellcheackerz to work on fucking other language!
> Why the fucking hell do i need to download from fucking freaking sucking
> russians pages to get the freaking spellcheackers to workz?!?!?!
> I is pissed!
> 
> Fuck ya!

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Re: [users] open office 2.3 crash

[Frank Cox]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:26:40 -0500
"becky waldvogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cannot recover the file to print, it opens with no cursor. Is there a way 
> to recover the file so it can be printed.?

Reload your document from disk.  If the file has become corrupted, restore it
from your backup.

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Re: [users] open office v2.3

[Frank Cox]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:14:00 +0930
"J.Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  My problem is when using Open Office Writer I cannot use the manual or 
> automatic toolbar buttons when checking any documents I have written. Is 
> there a problem with this and can it be resolved ?

Define your problem more specifically.  What do you do, what do you see, and
what do you expect to see that you aren't seeing?

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Re: [users] unable to use writer or calc

[Frank Cox]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:37:05 +
R GOLDSTEIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I downloaded the program and I do not know where to find the word processor 
> writer is. 

Did you install the program?

If so, run it and click on File - New



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Re: [users] product distribution by others

[Frank Cox]

On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:34:40 EDT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>   The name is mentioned 
> absolutely NOWHERE on the package or inside the box  either, for that matter. 
>  
> Can they do that?

They can indeed.  In many cases the name of a Free Software project is the only
part of it that you can't fork.  (Trademarks and all that.)

> Clearly the implication is that the software inside the 
> box is THEIR material when, in fact, it is not  their property.  If this is 
> not 
> illegal, it is certainly unethical.

It's not illegal.  The LGPL allows anyone to do just that.  They do have to
provide the source code, or a written offer to provide the same.

> It does lead to an interesting question: Since Cosmi is selling  
> OpenOffice.org under their own banner, should we expect them to support the  
> product in 
> the future with updates to the community at large?

It would be nice if they did, but I wouldn't hold my breath "expecting it",
were I you.

> And second,  is there 
> something that can be done to protest this clear abuse of the general  public 
> license, to force Cosmi to acknowledge this fact?  (There is a new  version 
> of the 
> software on the shelves at Fry's Electronics, and I don't believe  that the 
> new 
> package made any mention of the use of OpenOffice.org  either.)  

Again, they do have to provide or offer the source code as part of their
product.

Cosmi, eh...  There used to be a Cosmi that published "bargain bin"
software for the Commodore 64.  One of their best games was a helicopter
simulation called Super Huey. In fact, I still play it occasionally.

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Re: [users] untrustfull business

[John W. Kennedy]

Sales Dept wrote:

http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=151207



Who you think you are to take permission without our consent to show a
private mail, did you have a signed permission 


You sent your original message to a public mailing list. Since Antiss 
Neurotek is in the software and networking business, you have no 
possible claim not to have understood that this meant that, by 
definition, the message would be broadcast; that's what a mailing list 
does; that's what it's for. All this was explained to you months ago, 
the last time you brought this up, using the identity "luc Dumont 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>".


In short, not only do you have no case against OpenOffice.org, they now 
have, thanks to your clumsy attempt at blackmail, an open-and-shut case 
against you and Antiss Neurotek for libel. If you proceed further in 
this, they will also have a case against you and your employer for 
harassment and malicious prosecution.


(Note: I am not affiliated with either Sun Microsystems or 
OpenOffice.org. I am also not qualified to practice as a lawyer in 
either the United States or Canada.)


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[users] [moderated]

[Larry]

I have just purchased a cd entitled OpenOffice2008.  I really thought this cd 
would install open office on my computer but as it did not, I am confused on 
how to use it. Where is all similar to microsoft office?  Please help.  [EMAIL 
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Re: [users] open office

[John W. Kennedy]

Clare Revell wrote:

i just downloaded this to put on the kids laptop. However it is demanding a 
product code. I found one in a file marked set up however it doesnt' accept it 
in whatever form i put in.
it wants a 25 diget code from the back of the box???
product code it gives me is
83CO3FBE-4492-4133-BBAB-421CD88ADA32

this is not 25 digits. Pls help


This makes no sense whatsoever in the context of the OpenOffice.org 
program, which is distributed free of charge, doesn't come in a box, and 
has no "product code" in the first place.

--
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that the rich make themselves richer and not poorer,
which is the true Gospel, for the poor's sake."
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Re: [users] How to download open office!

[John W. Kennedy]

Mario Tirnanic wrote:

How to download open office!

Now as stpid as the question is, its pretty sad that i need to ask this
cause unfortunately there is no way of downloading open office from your
website anymore.

If you goto  you wont see a
download option at all.

Could you please provide a link to be able to download it via http.


I see the option right there. Click on "Download OpenOffice.org".
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[users] still not spell checking

[ocribin]

Dan asked me
what is happening when you try
to spell check a word.
Try this:
1) Open Writer
2) Misspell a word
3) Click on the word so that the cursor in in it
4) Format > Character
5) Click the Font tab
 What is listed under Language? Is it the correct language? Does it
have a tick with an "abc" in front of it?
When I checked, the language was "English(Eire), and there is no tick with
an "ABC".  So I switched to English (UK), and the red line indicating an
error appeared under the word.  However, other words remained the same, and
when I selected them they still came up with the english (Eire) setting.
How do I se openoffice to spellcheck each document without having to change
settings each time?  This happened AFTER I downloaded another english
dictionary (English(Canada)), as I couldn't find one that said English(UK)
or English (Eire).  I just want to be able to type and have the word
processor check as I go along.  I'm sure it's dead easy, but i'm missing
something simple.
Thanks,
Colm

Re: Re: [users] Problem displaying a date in CALC

[bill.lodge2]

2nd problem. Once I had sent the email to OpenOffice it asked for a password, 
which I didn't have. Since then it's blocking up my email by failing the 
password request. Any advice?
> 
> From: Brian Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/10/24 Wed AM 08:57:25 BST
> To: Bill Lodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [users] Problem displaying a date in CALC
> 
> At 19:46 23/10/2007 +0100, you wrote:
> >I have entered a date as 07/05/1949 and the cell insists on 
> >displaying it as 06/05/1949 (see attached screenshot).
> 
> I can't help you with this, I'm afraid.  But it may help to mention 
> that attached files are normally stripped from messages by the 
> mailing list processor before the messages are distributed.  And this 
> happened in your case.  So no-one will have seen the screen shot, in fact.
> 
> >Am I doing something wrong or is OpenOffice at fault?
> 
> No: I think this is some sort of bug, since it has been mentioned 
> before, but I don't know the details or any workaround.
> 
> Sorry this is not more helpful.
> 
> Brian Barker - privately
> 
> 
> 

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[users] Selling Open Office software

[T.T.I. Your Way2eBay]

  
I am using version 2,3.0 of OpenOffice.org. My problem is a question: 
   
  OK, I want or need to know if the Open Office software that everyone can 
download for FREE on the Open Office web site can be sold on eBay as a 
download. In the meaning of being distributed as a download and sold as a 
download link. 
   
  The reason I ask this question is that I see so many people selling a link to 
download what is Free to do at the Open Office web site. I do know that Open 
Office can be sold by way of a CD or a DVD.
   
  I just do not think it is right that many are selling your software as a 
download that you always have offered for Free.
   
  Please reply so I may follow up on this at eBay.
   
  Thanks in advance.
   
  Mr. Lee Brewer
  A community member
   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  3:00 PM CST Texas
  10/24/2007
   
  users@openoffice.org 
   


  NOTICE: This e-mail is from 
Texas Traders, Inc.. The information is intended for the sole use of the 
individual to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, 
your use, forwarding, printing or copying this informatiion is prohibited.
   
   
   

[users] how do you make bookmarks for PDFs?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I am using Open Office 2.2.1 and I can't figure out how to make bookmarks in 
the PDFs.  

I have read the help section but I don't understand it at all.  It isn't 
written very well and it isn't written for people who are not techies.  I am 
not even sure we are talking about the same bookmarks.  

I want to make the kind of bookmarks so that when someone opens my PDF, they 
will be able to click on each chapter heading.  I need explicit step by step 
instructions for making bookmarks in my PDFs.  I am not a techie so please 
don't leave anything out and use non techie language.  

Thank you.  

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[users] right-to-left languages

[Shulamit & Johnnie Frank]

I want to download Open Office for use in Hebrew and English (as I currently do 
in Word).

Should I download the Hebrew version or the English version (is it 
hebrew-enabled?) -
or do I have to download two versions?

Will I be able to use both languages in the same document?  If so, can I do 
this is the Hebrew version and/or the English version?

I am basing my questions on the way I use Word, Excel and Powerpoint.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me - I really do want to start 
using Open Office.

[users] Unable to Install OO 2.3 on Windows ME laptop.

[Ronald Frye]

To whom it may concern...

I am unable to install OO 2.3 on my Windows ME Laptop. When I try to install, 
the 1st error message I get is, "This package requires a newer version of the 
Windows Installer. Do you want to update?" When I click on "Yes", the next 
error message I get is, "The specified service already exits". When I click on 
"OK", the next error message I get is, "Setup was unable to find the file "." 
When I click on "OK", I am left with no other options. What do I do? 

(I had an earlier version of OO (1.x) installed, and it worked fine. Is there a 
way to download an earlier version, or can we fix the installation problem with 
version 2.3?)

Sincerely,

Ronald W. Frye
San Ramon, CA

Re: [users] Open MSOffice docs in IE with OO ActiveX

[Philippe Zwaenepoel]

Hi James,

I am still not convinced this is a windows related problem. There is indeed a 
checkbox 'always use this app', it was by default checked (as I have set OO as 
default app for MS Office docs in windows).
The problem is not that it does not recognize OpenOffice as the default app to 
open these documents. The problem is that it should open in the same window of 
IE.

In attachment a screenhot when opening an ODT file and when opening a DOC file. 
You will see that the ODT file is nicely openend in the window of IE, but not 
the DOC file.

Thanks,
Philippe


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  From: James Knott 
  To: users@openoffice.org ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [users] Open MSOffice docs in IE with OO ActiveX


  Philippe Zwaenepoel wrote: 
Hi James, 



Yes indeed, all MS Office files are associated to OpenOffice 2.3, see 
screenshot in attachment. The pop up I receive after 

clicking on a *.doc link in IE is one that asks to open the doc in 
OpenOffice. 



I looked into the code of the ActiveX, in the so_activex.cpp file. I don't 
extactly know if this could be the issue but starting  from line 400 

(this is the link to the source code 
http://www.koders.com/cpp/fidAC2258223FD00A0152B7FF2C280F5996004295B8.aspx) 

I see a mime type association to MS Office applications for MS Office file 
extensions. 



Here the procedure I followed to investigate this obstacle: 

- Creation of an HTML file containing 2 links, one to an *.odt file, the 
other to a *.doc file 

- I associated the doc filetype (and othe MS Office filetypes) to 
OpenOffice 2.3 

- The ActiveX component has been installed together with the installation 
of OpenOffice 2.3 

- When opening the *.odt file from the HTML in IE, it opens in IE 

- When opening the *.doc file from the HMTL page in IE, it provides a popup 
to open the document in OpenOffice 


  This is definitely an issue with Windows and not OpenOffice.  When you get 
that popup, is there a check box to always use that app?  If so, check it and 
you should be OK.



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[users] Question?

[Derek Smith]

Since the new release of MAC OS X Leopard, are you guys going to have  
a updated version for Leopard?




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[users] I am using version 2.3.0 for Mac (Tiger) of OpenOffice.org. My problem is : file corrupt "codec over

[Kass Khimji]

I am using version 2.3.0 for Mac (Tiger) of OpenOffice.org. My problem is : 
file corrupt "codec overrun" once downloaded. I've downloaded the file 3 
separate times and used iGetter to ensure that it does not break apart file but 
its still doing it. 

Please assist. 

Kass

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[users] [moderated]

[Christer Colt]

It is impossisble to make a registration because you have not discovered the 
country Sweden and the language swedish yet.
But we do excist! 

C Colt

Re: [users] untrustfull business

[John W. Kennedy]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 26 October 2007 14:49:28 John W. Kennedy wrote:

James Knott wrote:

So, go ahead and sue.  First you have to find a lawyer dumb
enough to take the case.

It's quite obvious this guy's a troll or a complete idiot.

Also, here's his company's web site.

http://antissn.com

Perhaps someone there will recognize this guy and remind him
that he sent a message to a pulic list and that same public
list now knows who he works for.  If he keeps up, someone may
wish to file a complaint with his employer's ISP, Videotron.ca.

Unfortunately, neither postmaster@ nor webmaster@ exist, and his
own address, sales@, is the only one given on the site. It may be
a one-man operation.

He's quite mad -- he sent me back an incoherent and vilely spelt
rant accusing me (insofar as I could construe it at all) of
impersonating myself.


Maybe he thought you were trying to say you were John F Kennedy


Because, as a Francophone, he doesn't believe in the letter W?


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of the kingdom of idiots would fight a war on twelve fronts"

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[users] disappearing fontwork under Vista and other glitches

[Colin Stuart]

Some problems in order of priority for my purposes:

1. I am using OO 2.3 under Windows Vista Home Premium on an Acer AM5620-E1204A. 
 When I insert a fontwork "style" from the gallery into Writer (or anywhere) 
and attempt to change its shape (fontwork shape button) the inserted fontwork 
"style" disappears. The handles remain but they too disappear when one attempts 
to select them.  Annoying.

2. I am using an Epson Perfection 1250 scanner with OOWriter on the system 
above.   When attempting to insert a picture (using OOWriter 
"Insert-picture-scan" dropdown)  from the scanner with the Twain facility 
provided by Epson (latest download for Vista),  scanning fails and Writer 
freezes. I have to go to Windows Task Manager to close OOWriter.   When I do a 
stand-alone scan and save the scanned file to the desktop,  it can then be 
inserted with no problem.   Cumbersome.

3. I installed the Gallery extension downloaded from the site linked to the OO 
site.  All of the vector graphics will drag and drop or copy and paste into  
OOWriter.   The photos in the gallery, most of which I think are jpg,  simply 
cannot be dragged or pasted into Writer.  Strange.

Keep up the good work.  I love OO.
Colin Stuart

P.S. (You don't really need to know the following but here it is anyway)  I 
wouldn't be using Vista, but the power supply failed on my wonderful Ubuntu P4 
thingy and there is some difficulty in finding a replacement.  I tried 
installing Ubuntu on this Acer machine and got royally out of my depth with 
partitioning.  In the world beyond GUI and clear instructions I am at a total 
loss. I get slightly paranoid about the problems noted above and suspect 
Microsoft of inserting all kinds of little landmines to make things difficult 
for any software outside their own, and especially for OO.   .docx feeds my 
paranoia: what plans/strategy do you folks have to deal with it?  How do I cope 
if .docx takes over the world? 
Cheers - CS 

[users] open office 2.3 crash

[becky waldvogel]

I have completed most editing of a document for a catalog. My computer
stops and the program will not respond. I cannot recover the file to print, it 
opens with no cursor. Is there a way to recover the file so it can be printed.? 
using open office 2.3 running windows xp with 256mb ram. 2.4ghz celeron. 
1knuedge

[users] open office v2.3

[J.Leach]

Hi, I am using version 2.3 of Open Office.org.
  My problem is when using Open Office Writer I cannot use the manual or 
automatic toolbar buttons when checking any documents I have written. Is there 
a problem with this and can it be resolved ?
  Thank you and awaiting your reply.

   My email address is; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   jmcl

[users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

[Frank A]

Is a reader available for the Palm TX ?
Thanks,
Frank A

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[users] Installing Java when installing Open Office

[David Simpson]

I believe that I have the most current version of Java. I checked the 
Add-Remove Programs listing & this is what I have:

Java 6 Update 2
Java 6 Update 3
Java SE Runtime Environment 6 Update 1

I downloaded version 2.3.0.

When I install Open Office, will the installer install an older version of Java 
or not install Java at all? Does the install program check to see if Java is 
installed & what version? This is why I'm hesitant to install Open Office, 
although, I'll admit, I'm anxious to try it out.

Thank you.

David

[users] unable to use writer or calc

[R GOLDSTEIN]

I downloaded the program and I do not know where to find the word processor 
writer is. please send me an email at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

[users] product distribution by others

[Quark496]

Hi everyone,
 
I have been using OpenOffice for a couple years now, and truly love  it.  It 
is a great replacement for ms Office, and I am delighted to find  things I 
need in the menus listings where I expect them to be.  
 
As happy as I am with your product, I am still a very curious sort of  person 
and am interested in trying other things, so I purchased a product  recently 
called "Perfect Pro Office System 2007".  On the box, they mention  the names 
of the office compatible software in their package: Write, Calc,  Impress, 
etc.  Sound familiar?  Naturally, I searched over the entire  box very 
carefully, 
and OpenOffice.org was never mentioned.  It irked me  that they used the same 
names as you guys do, but then I guessed that products  which are available 
freely on the web according to a general public license  probably do not 
copyright the product names.
 
Despite my concern about the identical names, I attempted to install the  
office component of the package.  Imagine my surprise when nothing seemed  to 
happen.  I then opened the CD and discovered, much to my dismay, that  "Perfect 
Pro Office" IS OpenOffice.org with the addition of a couple new  goodies.  
Aren't the people at Cosmi required to mention on the package  that they are 
actually supplying OpenOffice.org under their own banner?   The name is 
mentioned 
absolutely NOWHERE on the package or inside the box  either, for that matter.  
Can they do that?  Clearly the implication  is that the software inside the 
box is THEIR material when, in fact, it is not  their property.  If this is not 
illegal, it is certainly unethical.
 
It does lead to an interesting question: Since Cosmi is selling  
OpenOffice.org under their own banner, should we expect them to support the  
product in 
the future with updates to the community at large?  And second,  is there 
something that can be done to protest this clear abuse of the general  public 
license, to force Cosmi to acknowledge this fact?  (There is a new  version of 
the 
software on the shelves at Fry's Electronics, and I don't believe  that the new 
package made any mention of the use of OpenOffice.org  either.)  
 
I guess what bothers me most about this is that Cosmi is clearly making  
money off of the fact that they are "selling" an MS Office compatible product,  
as 
that is the product stressed most on the package (the items are highlighted  
in red on the back of the box).  The box is typical of modern software  
distributions with a fold-open cover.  Inside the cover it says, "With  Perfect 
Pro 
Office System(tm) you will create professional-looking business  documents, 
instant databases, eye-catching presentations, full-featured  
spreadsheets...even make, edit or enhance your own images!"  But in fact,  they 
are simply 
describing OpenOffice.org in all of the descriptions that  follow.  So how much 
work did Cosmi actually perform in developing the  products on the 4 CD's 
inside 
their box?
 
Have a good "Open" day!
 
Sincerely,
Bob Klimaszewski



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Re: [users] Formatting Numbers

[jonathon]

Harold wrote:

> Is this a bug? Should not OO honour the OS's locale settings?

If OOo locale is set to "default", then OOo should honour the OS
locale settings.
If the OOo is not set to "default", then OOo should use whatever the
internal (OOo) settings are.

IIRC, OOo offers support for more locales than WinXP does.

xan

jonathon

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Re: [users] Formatting Numbers

[Harold Fuchs]

On 27/10/2007 22:38, Alan Boba wrote:

On 10/27/07, Jayant Gedam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I want to format comma separator like this in spredsheet:
1,00,00,00,000.00
(This is Indian pattern of displaying numbers and currencies)




This format code works, sort of.
[>999]##\,##\,##\,##0;[>9]##\,##\,##0;##,##0

Numbers from 0 to 100 million are displayed correctly. There are some
limitations though, no decimal display and using the add or remove decimal
tool bar button removes the Indian formating.

To add decimals, you have to have a different format code for each number of
decimal formats you want to display. This format is for two decimals.

[>999]##\,##\,##\,##0.00;[>9]##\,##\,##0.00;##,##0.00

I haven't found a way to properly format numbers beyond 100 million. The
code for numbers to 100 million was found here...
http://help.lockergnome.com/office/set-numbers-Indian-Style-ftopict565238.htmlin
Gordon's post of July 5th, 2005. I confirmed how to add decimals and
identified the 100 million limit.

I don't know Calc very well but it seems to me that if regular expressions
can be used in format codes there might be a way to build the format code so
it understands there needs to be a repeating pattern of 00, for numbers
greater than 99,999. e.g. 1,00,000; 1,00,00,000; etc.

  
In Windows (XP Pro, at least) there are Control Panel options to set the 
"digit grouping" for numbers and currency, separately, to the pattern 
the OP requires. However, OpenOffice 2.2 takes no notice of these 
settings. Is this a bug? Should not OO honour the OS's locale settings? 
I haven't tried in OO 2.3 because I haven't downloaded it yet.


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[users] template for folded tri-fold ?

[Kenn Goutal]

Does anyone have a Writer (.odt) template (.ott) for a tri-fold-folded-in-half?
That is, for document made by folding an A4/letterhead sheet in half,
*then* into thirds, with the result of 6 little (2.85x3.67") "pages"?

Or, alternatively, for a half-letterhead (5.5x8.5") piece of cardstock,
folded into thirds, with three of those little pages *on each side*?

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Re: [users] Formatting Numbers

[Alan Boba]

On 10/27/07, Jayant Gedam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I want to format comma separator like this in spredsheet:
> 1,00,00,00,000.00
> (This is Indian pattern of displaying numbers and currencies)


This format code works, sort of.
[>999]##\,##\,##\,##0;[>9]##\,##\,##0;##,##0

Numbers from 0 to 100 million are displayed correctly. There are some
limitations though, no decimal display and using the add or remove decimal
tool bar button removes the Indian formating.

To add decimals, you have to have a different format code for each number of
decimal formats you want to display. This format is for two decimals.

[>999]##\,##\,##\,##0.00;[>9]##\,##\,##0.00;##,##0.00

I haven't found a way to properly format numbers beyond 100 million. The
code for numbers to 100 million was found here...
http://help.lockergnome.com/office/set-numbers-Indian-Style-ftopict565238.htmlin
Gordon's post of July 5th, 2005. I confirmed how to add decimals and
identified the 100 million limit.

I don't know Calc very well but it seems to me that if regular expressions
can be used in format codes there might be a way to build the format code so
it understands there needs to be a repeating pattern of 00, for numbers
greater than 99,999. e.g. 1,00,000; 1,00,00,000; etc.

Re: [users] Re: refund (FAO Alan Boba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> )

[John Meyer]

Dan Lewis wrote:
> On Thursday October 25 2007 08:23 pm, John Meyer wrote:
>> Harold Fuchs wrote:
>>> On 24/10/2007, Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Harold Fuchs wrote:
> woodstracker never saw this because he's not subscribed and you
> didn't include his e-mail address in the To: or cc: list of your
> message.
 How do you know? maybe he's reading it through news.gmane.org - just
 like I am
>>> Because his original e-mail contained the mail header "Delivered-To:
>>> moderator for users@openoffice.org" which proves he's not subscribed.
>>> I grant that he may be reading this list via a news reader but it
>>> seems unlikely.
>> I set up a message rule in Thunderbird that tags these messages
>> "moderated" in green.  Pretty easy to do.  The only thing I regret is
>> that there isn't a way to make sure a copy is cc'ed to the original
>> poster when I reply (i.e. a rule or something to that effect).
> 
>  Just develop the habit of CC'ing all emails that are in green. :-)
> 
> Dan



There are some days when it's hit or miss if I remember to put on the
same socks ;-).  The green tags help, though.  I guess I'd just want the
ability to put in programmable filters, such as ignoring a return
receipt requirement or cc'ing.  Ah well, such is life.

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Re: [users] Error 1935

[epilim]

I had the same error message when I tried to install openoffice.  I
discovered that the file mscoree.dll (C:/Windows/system32/) was the culprit. 
I changed the name of the file to mscoreebak.dll and the install then went
without a hitch.  I then renamed the file to its original. I don't know why
it worked but it did.
I hope this helps


Thiago Coutinho-3 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I´m having this error 1935 during the installation, how can i fix it?
> 
> 
> Have a nice day
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Thiago
> 
> 

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[users] Formatting Numbers

[Jayant Gedam]

I want to format comma separator like this in spredsheet:
1,00,00,00,000.00
(This is Indian pattern of displaying numbers and currencies)
Please help!!
Thanks.

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Re: [users] Re: Problem displaying a date in CALC

[openoffice . linux]

On Saturday 27 October 2007 06:04:00 Richard Detwiler wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Friday 26 October 2007 13:31:18 Joe Smith wrote:
> >> NoOp wrote:
> >>> ...
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=76623
> >>
> >> However, I found the description of the cause of the problem
> >> troubling: how can time zone calculations interfere with the
> >> entry of a date?
> >>
> >> As far as I can tell, Calc does not do any conversion of the
> >> date (or time) as entered--all date/time values in Calc are
> >> stored and displayed as local time.
> >>
> >> So why is the time zone setting triggering these effects?
> >>
> >> Maybe I misunderstood the developer's explanation.
> >
> > Most apps that use the date or time use both because 21:03 is
> > not as specific as 21:03 05/12/06 The former is the exact
> > minute of the day of any day, any month, any year, but the
> > later is the exact minute of the day on a specific day, month
> > and year. There is a more technically correct way to say this.
> > I will leave that to someone else.
>
> That makes sense, but I'm not sure it explains the situation that
> led to the original post. That was a case of someone just
> entering a simple date, not a date and a time. If one enters a
> date alone, does a time somehow get tacked onto it, but not
> displayed? To me, that wouldn't make a lot of sense. Or is there
> something I'm missing?

Joe explained it.

Basically date and time is really the same thing. The date/time on 
the computer is is set/watched/stamped based on a date/time from a 
starting point in the distant past (I think around 1900 or earlier 
for *nix and later for Windows). Going back to the earlier example 
21:03 marks a point in time that is every 24 hours and can be past, 
present and future. Adding the date then says the time stamp is 
only for one time period at that minute and not all of them past, 
present and future.

In the world we have dates and time for recording the movement of 
something from a starting point. We use time on a daily interval 
without realizing that the time we are talking about isn't just 
15:00 but it is 15:00 at 10/27/2007 UTC or 15:00 at 10/27/2007 
UTC-* which is different from UTC. with the computer this short cut 
that every one is used to using is ignored and recorded completely.

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[users] Re: Problem displaying a date in CALC

[Joe Smith]

Richard Detwiler wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... If one enters a date alone, does a time 
somehow get tacked onto it, but not displayed? To me, that wouldn't make 
a lot of sense. Or is there something I'm missing?


Because of the way Calc stores dates internally, as a real number where 
the integer part represents the day (date) and the fractional part 
represents the time (fraction of a day), every 'date' in Calc also 
includes a time: 0:00.

Re: [users] read only document

[Alan Boba]

On 10/26/07, Mathias Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alan Boba wrote:
>
> > I cannot achieve the desired result of preventing the user from
> modifying
> > the document, the original file, that I might send them. Although it is
> > possible to prevent editing by checking '[x] Open read only' the
> document
> > can be edited by right clicking and selecting edit. At that point any
> > changes can be saved to the original file provided to the user. So I
> don't
> > think this achieves the result I believe is desired - providing a file
> where
> > the recipient cannot change the original file object without knowing the
> > password.
>
> Please let me repeat it: it is impossible to prevent users from
> modifying a document in an open file format. You can only prevent access
> to it completely (encrypt the document), prevent changes from happening
> unnoticed (signing the document) or convert it to PDF.
>
> Also Word can't do give you the security that your document isn't
> changed. What Word does is that it prevents users from *inadvertently"
> changing those parts of the document that shouldn't be changed. And that
> is possible in OOo also, using "Tools-Options-Security".


I've read through the explanations and understand what you're saying. I
guess for me that leaves the question of why not create a UI artifice of
'read only' that would be understood by the average user? It seems the
effect could be achieved with signing but using different UI actions. I
don't believe the average user understands that signing would enable them to
detect if changes are made. However getting a Word document back that
doesn't prompt for the 'read only' password when opened makes it immediately
apparent that something has changed.

I've discovered the Writer interface has a visible indicator whether or not
a file is signed. It's in the message bar at the bottom of the application
window. For an unsigned document it is just an empty gray box. And signed or
unsigned it is tiny. Perhaps it could be made more prominent somehow and,
for unsigned documents, rather than being empty an appropriate status
message might be displayed.

I'm persisting with the idea, though it's now clear the name 'read only'
isn't appropriate, because of how I've seen the feature used with Word in
the office environments I've been in. Also it seemed the poster who wanted
to know how to do read only, and who got me started on this thread, was
really desperate to understand how to make read only happen in Writer. I
think at this point they believe they have no way of implementing 'read
only' when in fact there is a more robust feature available, signing.

[users] Re: Open Office 2.3 re-installation messes up its appearance

[Graham P Davis]

Graham P Davis wrote:

> Graham P Davis wrote:
> 
>> Frank Cox wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:51:14 +0100
>>> Graham P Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
 After re-installing OOo - to try and fix another problem which was
 later fixed by another means - the appearance no longer matches that of
 all other programs running on KDE. The font for menus and task-bars is
 too large and the colour is different. These incorrect fonts and
 colours also show up in the "new document" display when OOo is first
 opened.
>>> 
>>> This sounds like a problem in your kde theme and not in OO itself.
>>> 
>>> I don't use kde so I can't give you specific steps to go through, but
>>> check your theme settings, especially anything that appears to set an
>>> exception.
>>> 
>> 
>> The problem affected OOo on re-installation but hasn't affected another
>> piece of software that was similarly un-installed and re-installed. Also,
>> OOo behaved properly when installed as part of clean installations of
>> OpenSUSE 10.3. So, although OOo may not be the cause of the problem,
>> there seems to be something special in the relationship between it and
>> KDE. The KDE theme settings on the two machines are different, as are
>> those of the two users on one of them.
>> 
>> Of course, the problem could be something that only affects OpenSUSE
>> which is why I've also raised the issue on one of their news-groups. I
>> fear I may have to try an installation of another flavour of Linux to see
>> how that behaves.
>> 
> 
> I've tried removing 2.3 from OpenSUSE 10.2 and replacing it with 2.0.4 and
> found I have the same trouble. Looks like this has been around a while but
> I'd not noticed it as re-installing OOo is not something I'd tried before.
> 

I've now tried Kubuntu 7.10 but, although I successfully un-installed OOo, I
was unable to re-install it as the radio buttons in the installer failed to
change when clicked. Happy days!

-- 
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"What use is happiness? It can't buy you money."  [Chic Murray, 1919-85]

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Re: [users] Re: Problem displaying a date in CALC

[Richard Detwiler]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Friday 26 October 2007 13:31:18 Joe Smith wrote:
  

NoOp wrote:


...
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=76623
  

However, I found the description of the cause of the problem
troubling: how can time zone calculations interfere with the
entry of a date?

As far as I can tell, Calc does not do any conversion of the date
(or time) as entered--all date/time values in Calc are stored and
displayed as local time.

So why is the time zone setting triggering these effects?

Maybe I misunderstood the developer's explanation.




Most apps that use the date or time use both because 21:03 is not as 
specific as 21:03 05/12/06 The former is the exact minute of the 
day of any day, any month, any year, but the later is the exact 
minute of the day on a specific day, month and year. There is a 
more technically correct way to say this. I will leave that to 
someone else.


That makes sense, but I'm not sure it explains the situation that led to 
the original post. That was a case of someone just entering a simple 
date, not a date and a time. If one enters a date alone, does a time 
somehow get tacked onto it, but not displayed? To me, that wouldn't make 
a lot of sense. Or is there something I'm missing?


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Re: [users] Re: Oo 2.3 install problem - OK ?????

[Manfred J. Krause]

Hi,

2007/10/27, Manfred J. Krause wrote:
> 2007/10/25, NoOp wrote:
> > On 09/22/2007 09:22 AM, Harry Petree wrote:
> > [...]
> Two proposals @Scott:
> [...]
> ... try as workarround:
> Close OOo.  ;-)
> Copy the 'user folder' [..\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org2\user] of your 
> wife's
> installation to your installation [..\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org2\user] -

or :
in WinXP there's the directory <...\Default User\AppData\...>
[it is *not* the directory <...\All User\AppData\...>]

Copying a 'user folder' to this directory effectuates, that it will be the
default setting for all users (but adapted to the own installation - I
hope so) ...
;-)

> it should effectuate as having done the first initialization.
> 'Restart' OOo (please, try with all known possibillities and variatons)
>
> Maybe it will work - but I don't want to raise false expectations ...

I expect, you'll get another error message - please, transfer it to 'users' ...

(maybe, then renaming the 'user folder' to e.g. 'user_old' and restarting
OOo should create a 'working user folder')

> Manfred
>
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Re: [users] Re: Oo 2.3 install problem - OK ?????

[Manfred J. Krause]

Hi,

2007/10/25, NoOp wrote:
> On 09/22/2007 09:22 AM, Harry Petree wrote:
> > uninstalled and re-installed. tried soffice -writer from command line - -
> > same results.
> >
> > Also tried  -? and  -help command line options - - same results.
> >
> > I'm running Windows XP sp2 .
> >
>
> Harry,
>
> Are you by any chance running an AMD 64 CPU?
>
> See: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=82446

It is very unfortunate that Harry didn't communicate this result to 'users':


No.

I had not tried to use Oo since the bug was initiated. The other day I tried
to open a file and got the "what program" menu and I selected swriter for
the heck of it. It ran me through initialization and then into Writer. I
don't know what could have changed that would make it suddenly work


As far as I remember, I asked him, whether he tried to open an *.odt file,
but - looking back - there was no really reply ...
the main thing is, it's running now.  ;-)

Two proposals @Scott:

(1) At first, adding file association e.g. 'ODT' (to swriter.exe of
your installation)
manually in menu 'folder options' (sorry, I don't have neither this
Vista nor English OS-UI)
of the 'Windows explorer' menu (or simlar menu of Vista).

(2) Then, as you remarked ...

My wife has the same brand laptop (Toshiba) as I.
Hers is an A205, mine an A215, both with Vista Home Premium,
and she was able to load OO 2.3 just fine.


... try as workarround:
Close OOo.  ;-)
Copy the 'user folder' [..\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org2\user] of your wife's
installation to your installation [..\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice.org2\user] -
it should effectuate as having done the first initialization.
'Restart' OOo (please, try with all known possibillities and variatons)

Maybe it will work - but I don't want to raise false expectations ...

Manfred

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