[users] Re:Trouble with Outlook Express since downloading OOo2.4

2008-04-16 Thread Bud Oliver
I down loaded OOo2.4 and 2.4 is now the default to open saved email.  I've 
tried to have Outlook Express as the default but when I click on the icon it 
just opens the program not the saved email.  I have the XP operating system.
Any ideas what is going on?  I'm an old guy trying my best on the computer.
Thanks,
Bud

[users] Re: Proof Reading

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:51:45 -0500, Robert Dailey
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Hi,

I'm fairly new to Open Office Writer, so bare with me. I'm hoping this is
just a situation where I do not know the correct terminology.

I remember in Microsoft Word there was a way to leave notes that pointed
to specific lines of text in a document so you can leave comments. One
specific thing I need to do is review a document someone has given me and
without actually changing the content, simply label things and say Change
this or This needs to say that This way when they read the document
that I've added notes in, they will see those suggestions and be able to
edit the changes in themselves.

Any suggestions on how to easily do this?

This does not answer your question directly - does OOo have an
annotator  --  but it may be relevant to your needs.  

I work in  small group of dispersed sofware developers and writers. We
exchange documents as PDF's, OOo can readily create a PDF, from any
component - writer, calc, draw etc.  

We then use Tracker Software's PDFView to annotate the PDF with sticky
notes and the like.  I think Adobe have an annotator, but I believe
the PDF has to created with Adobe PDF creation tools in order to use
it..  One of us, not me, annotates in hand writing using a tablet.

We prefer to annotate PDF's rather than the original document, whether
it be Word or OOo, because of the version management problems inherent
in editing the original form.   Also annotating a PDF is universal,
i.e. the document can come a design tool such as Visio or BOOUML or
even your browser if you have a PDF printer installed, e.g. PDF
Creator.  

Also has the advantage that the editor does not need the same tools as
the writer.

PDFViewer is freeware, there's a pro version now not sure what
features it offers.  I don't think PDFViewer is unique - i.e. there
are other and possibly better tools that do a similar job.

We all have large hi res and/or dual screens so we can readily look at
the real document and the annotated one simultaneously.

Have you looked in the OOo add ons, Writer's Tools may have something
- which reminds me I have to get my instance working again.

cheers phild


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Re: [users] Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread mike scott
On 15 Apr 2008 at 13:57, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
...
 Brad Rogers, in the UK can send an unsubscribe email, and I get the OO  
 response. Yet when I reply to the response, it gets lost.
 
  From this email address, and the want I want to subscribe to.

In which case, perhaps he (or a.n. other) could complete the process 
for you. If he sends the 'unsubscribe' message for you, you could 
then promptly forward to him the OOo response requesting 
confirmation, and he could complete the process.

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Re: [users] Calc question - sorting data.?

2008-04-16 Thread James Elliott - WA Rural Computers

Thanks Brian - that did help ... solved my problem, in fact.

Silly me! I should have remembered the one could auto fill by dragging the 
handle - I have done that before, but not for a long time.  Thanks for 
reminding me, and pointing it out to me.


I have learned something new when it comes to Paste Special - thanks for 
that!


Kind regards,  James


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To: users@openoffice.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Calc question - sorting data.?



At 16:41 15/04/2008 +0800, James Elliott wrote:

If I download 100 transactions it is tedious to type into a spare column:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
...
...
99
100


You are making heavy weather of this.  Spreadsheets are designed to make 
your life easy!


To enter these numbers, either:

o  Enter the number 1 where it is required.
o  Select the relevant cell.
o  Click on the small rectangle at the bottom right of the cell (the fill 
handle) and drag this down the column as required.


or:

o  Select the range of cells that you need filled.
o  Go to Edit | Fill  | Series... .
o  Enter 1 for Start value and press OK.


So, I used a formula where Cell C76 contained a 1
C77=C76+1  and copied this formula so
C78=C77+1
C79=C78+1
...
etc

Then I sorted first by the DATE column and then by Column C, but I found 
that formulas do not sort in exactly the same way as integer numbers, 
[...]


You can also use the fill technique on formulae, of course.  And a 
workaround here would be to copy the block of formulae and then use Edit | 
Paste Special... to paste them back into the same cells.  Remove the tick 
from Paste all, and then make sure that Formulas is *not* ticked but 
Numbers is.  Then you'll have the plain numbers that you want in the 
cells.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [users] default fonts again

2008-04-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The issue has been marked as a duplicate of this one.
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=29485

Not sure that I agree but if the core issue is the same it is a long 
standing one (from 1.1.1)


Neil

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As per your suggestion I have submitted it to the qa - see 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88315



Dave Barton wrote:

 Original Message 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue 15 Apr 2008 19:20:31 EST

There appears to be a way to change the default fonts and size of 
fonts for new documents under

Tools | Options | OpenOffice.org Writer | Basic Fonts (Western)

However anything set here appears to be largely ignored even if 
Current document only is not ticked.


Another way that is somewhat more successful is to create a default 
document and then save it as a template
File | Templates | Save | My Templates and give the new template a 
name and click OK.

Then make that template the default template
File | Templates | Organise | select the template under My Templates 
| Commands | Set as default template


However that only works when you create a new file under File | New 
| Text Document


Or by simply starting Writer (swriter.exe) from a shortcut/icon.

If you go to Windows Explorer (obviously only under Windows - I have 
no idea what the equivalent of this is on Linux or Mac)
and go to File | New | OpenDocument Text to create a new document it 
will not only ignore any settings under Tools | Options | etc but 
will also ignore any default templates.


This would appear to be a significant oversight.

Neil


This is an extremely unusual and cumbersome method of creating a new 
document and not one that many users would normally employ, but the 
document generated by this method does revert to the original Writer 
defaults, not to the user defined default template.


I don't have time to pull up the source code and find out how the 
document is being generated from the Explorer menu. So I would 
suggest you submit an issue to http://qa.openoffice.org


Sorry I can't be of more help.

Dave




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[users] Writers Tools

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
I've been trying to get onto the WritersTools website for 2 days,
Google keeps telling me to try again in 30 seconds - seems that its in
plutonic rather than earth seconds.

Does anyone know of a Writer's Tools news group or discussion forum,
that's not hosted by %$!*+? Gooogle, that I can get to.
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[users] [moderated]

2008-04-16 Thread KUNSCH ROBERT

Dear Sirs,

I installed OpenOffice on my U3 Cruzer USB key.

It seems to work fine at the office with Windows XP SP2, 
but it does not work at home with Windows Vista Home Edition.

It keeps telling me that it cannot find some files.
Do You have any suggestion ?

Best Regards. R. Kunsch

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Re: [users] use of non-english spelling characters in creating data

2008-04-16 Thread S H Manterys
Thank you kindly for the reply, and please bear with me,

I did find  understand the instructions for use of non-English spelling i 
Open Office - BUT, now I see that my original query would have been clearer had 
I used the terms symbols  special characters

My specific question relates to assigning shortcut keys to insert Latin 
Extended-A Polish letters directly from the keyboard in only one step, to avoid 
the cumbersome process of, for each letter, taking 4 steps by selecting 
Insert, then special characters, then choosing the character with the 
mouse, then input it in the document.

For comparison, Microsoft Word, in its Insert menu, in addition to Special 
characters (of the like you have in OpenOffice) has a Symbols (non-english 
letters, distinguished there from Special Characters) option, allowing for 
the chosen letter to be assigned a key combination, eg. Alt+character from 
the standard qwerty keyboard (this method allows me uninterupted flow when 
typing in a non-english language). Can I achieve similar in OpenOffice? I did 
try to find it in OpenOffice, but perhaps I am missing something obvious .

Hope this makes sense. 
Regards
Stan

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  To: users@openoffice.org 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:15 PM
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  On 14/04/2008, Drew Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harold Fuchs wrote:

  On 14/04/2008, S  H Manterys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

I am evaluating Open Office for suitability in my non-profit small 
library
catalogue.
I have Microsoft Windows XP 2000, with Microsoft Proofing Tools for 
input
of non-english spelling.
Does Open Office database cater for non-english spelling, and how?
Thank you
Stan Manterys

   



   


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  Hope this helps.

   

Harold is correct with his description regarding the word processor module 
in OpenOffice.org.

However to your question, data entry controls in OpenOffice.org do not 
automatically perform any spell checking functions.

It would be possible to implement something using scripting and all the 
features Harold touched on are available via the application built in scripting 
engine and API.

Before I tell you that this would be easy or not though, can you tell me 
how you would want it catered for as you put it?

Thanks

Drew

  Whoops again. Not my day.  Simply didn't read the question properly. Thank 
you, Drew.





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[users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-16 Thread Albert L. Rodney
Hello,
I have just been reading about the Open Office Suite, it sounds exciting.  I am 
so tired of the outdated MS Office I am working with...my Word program is 
constantly crashing on me and trying to recover my documents and work.  I did 
not get a MS version of SW but all the dubbed copies of Office from Dell 
Computers when I bought my system in 2002.

My question is...can I uninstall the MS Office components to use your Suite, 
without loosing any of MY Documents???

I also have a load of original photography on my HD's and digitized versions 
that I have created in Photoshop.  How does all this work together?  I can't 
afford to lose any of my creative writing ex: poems, novels, screenplays or 
graphics  photography files, even if your SW is FREE.
Barbara Rodney
Portland, OR
503-327-4797

RE: [users] Can I Keep Microsoft Office?

2008-04-16 Thread Brian Lavoie
Thank you so much for your help, and I cannot wait to start downloading and 
using OpenOffice.org!  If I like it, I will make sure to recommend it to people 
who do not have Microsoft Office applications, and I will be sure they will 
love it!
 
Brian



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 Microsoft Office?  Brian Lavoie wrote:  I want to download Open Office, 
 but will I have to remove Microsoft Office 2003?  
 _No, 
 you can have both on the same computer. The only thing you'll have  to watch 
 for, is during the installation you'll be asked if you want to  make 
 OpenOffice the default application for Microsoft Office files.  This is 
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[users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE I cannot open any of my documents that I have written with openoffice. what to do? I

2008-04-16 Thread Theresa Aldrich
I have tried to reinstall and the repair that comes with it but nothing works. 
Should I uninstall it and just loose all my documents? They won't even print!
   


[users] How To Open Microsoft Works Database (.wdb) File

2008-04-16 Thread Keith O Ehrhart
Greetings,

We are a new user of OpenOffice.  For a many years now we have been using
Microsoft Works to create our word-processing, spreadsheet and database files.

We are sure it will take us sometime to acquaint ourselves with OpenOffice, we
have started using the word-processing and spreadsheet areas.  We have had no
problem converting/opening our Microsoft Works word-processing and spreadsheet
files to OpenOffice.

The OpenOffice Base is very unfamiliar to us.  We have tried many times and are
unable to convert/open our Microsoft Works database files (Microsoft Works
Database (.wdb)) to the OpenOffice Base.  To date we have not been successful
at doing so.

If it is possible to convert/open our Microsoft Works database files (Microsoft
Works Database (.wdb)), could you describe the procedure to do it?

Thank you,
Keith O Ehrhart
726 Kenneth Dr
Mount Joy, PA 17552


  

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[users] [moderated]

2008-04-16 Thread Roy McCallop, Notary Public
Hello:  
  For some reason I do not have a desktop icon or other means to open the 
OpenOffice suite of applications.  I have recently installed 2.4 but how do I 
access the different applications.
   
  Please help,
  Roy


[users] Spacing prob2

2008-04-16 Thread Mammadaly TAJAHMADY

I am using openoffice.org 2.3 and my problem is:
Having transfered my documents from windows operating
system to linux the spaces between words become dashes
and connect all words together and thus the document is useless.
What do you propose to solve this problem.

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[users] My document from openoffice got accidentally deleted as I did not understand the command properly

2008-04-16 Thread sunil bhattacharjya
Dear Sirs,

My problem is as above. can you kindly help?

Regards,

S.K.Bhattacharjya


[users] downloading

2008-04-16 Thread Sharon Gianetto
I started using your program in November, 2007 when I purchased a new computer 
and this was on it.
  I am having difficulty using this and go back to word and other programs 
because I have been unable to understand the operation and it is easier to use 
an old program than learn a new one, although I am always excited about using a 
new program.  I am also a quick learner.
  Every once in a while I get a message about downloading an update.  There is 
always insufficient information  telling me what this is as well as the the 
size and the time to download.  I have spent countless hours downloading 
updates only to have them be unsuccessful.  I get messages such as this program 
has been incorrupted.
  I am very dissatisfied with this.
  Today I started to download OpenOffice.org 2.4.0 and it is still only at 41%.
  I would like to be able to use all of these programs, but find it difficult.
  Sharon Gianetto
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[users] [moderated]Question

2008-04-16 Thread tom cochran
Hi I have a list of books read over the years that somehow has a wdb extention

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE I have never had Works. Will Openoffice allow this 
to be imported into something like excel 

The information has about 4 columns of varing width (author, title, date , 
brief description. 

I have downloaded your program and hope it will solve some of my various 
problems

Tom Cochran

[users] Updates

2008-04-16 Thread skyslantern
Where on your website can I find OpenOffice Updates for users of that software. 
I've had the automatic update come and go in my desktop toolbar, but I tend not
to trust that stuff. I would rather go to your website and update my OpenOffice
software. The automatic feature will just be a way to remind me to.

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[users] Change from writer to calc

2008-04-16 Thread Tord Karlsson
Hi,

I am using version 2.4 of OpenOffice.org. on a Macintosh MacBook Pro with
X11 installed. My problem is that I can't open or change to any other
application but writer.

Med vänliga hälsningar,
Tord Karlsson
Kommundirektör
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[users] spellcheck not working

2008-04-16 Thread Gail Hunter
I have recently installed OpenOffice.org 2.4 and my spellcheck is not 
functioning.  If I put in spelling errors on purpose in a document it still 
confirms everything is ok.

I don't know how to correct this.

Re: [users] Proof Reading

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 16/04/2008, Robert Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm fairly new to Open Office Writer, so bare with me. I'm hoping this is
 just a situation where I do not know the correct terminology.

 I remember in Microsoft Word there was a way to leave notes that pointed
 to specific lines of text in a document so you can leave comments. One
 specific thing I need to do is review a document someone has given me and
 without actually changing the content, simply label things and say Change
 this or This needs to say that This way when they read the document
 that I've added notes in, they will see those suggestions and be able to
 edit the changes in themselves.

 Any suggestions on how to easily do this?


InsertNote.

The Help has a table showing OOo equivalents of many MSO features. Look
under Microsoft Office and then feature comparisons.


-- 
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London, England
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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE I cannot open any of my documents that I have written with openoffice. wha

2008-04-16 Thread mike scott
On 15 Apr 2008 at 14:44, Theresa Aldrich wrote:

 I have tried to reinstall and the repair that comes with it but nothing 
 works. Should I uninstall it and just loose all my documents? They won't even 
 print!

Rather than simply saying nothing works, it would be more helpful 
to say exactly what you have tried to do, and what happened (or 
didn't), including text from any error messages. Please also say what 
your operating system is, and what version of open office you're 
using.

Note that even if you do not have open office installed, it's still 
readily possible to recover information from your OOo documents 
because the way the data is saved is public knowledge. So don't panic 
and delete everything!!!

Please note you are not subscribed to this list, and may therefore 
miss answers. http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html for more 
information. Replies to list only please.

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Re: [users] Writers Tools

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 16/04/2008, Urbane Tiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been trying to get onto the WritersTools website for 2 days,
 Google keeps telling me to try again in 30 seconds - seems that its in
 plutonic rather than earth seconds.

 Does anyone know of a Writer's Tools news group or discussion forum,
 that's not hosted by %$!*+? Gooogle, that I can get to.


I don't know if it's the same thing but it has the same name:
http://nothickmanuals.info/doku.php/writertools and the download works.



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Re: [users] [moderated]

2008-04-16 Thread mike scott
On 15 Apr 2008 at 13:53, Roy McCallop, Notary Public wrote:

 Hello:  
   For some reason I do not have a desktop icon or other means to open the 
 OpenOffice suite of applications.  I have recently installed 2.4 but how do I 
 access the different applications.

   Please help,
   Roy
 

Assuming you're using windows, look in your start menu. Copy the 
shortcuts to the desktop if you want them there.

Please note you are not subscribed to this list, and may 
therefore miss answers. http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html for 
more information. Replies to list only please.


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Re: [users] spellcheck not working

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 15/04/2008, Gail Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have recently installed OpenOffice.org 2.4 and my spellcheck is not
 functioning.  If I put in spelling errors on purpose in a document it still
 confirms everything is ok.

 I don't know how to correct this.


Spell checking in a language can only work if (a) the dictionary is
installed for that language and (b) Writer is told what language the [piece
of] text is in.

So, have you installed the dictionaries for the languages you want to use?
FileWizardsInstall New Dictionaries. Then, for monoglot documents set the
language you want in ToolsOptionsLanguage SettingsLanguages - either for
all documents or for this document only. This is also where you can check
what dictionaries you have installed: in the drop down list of possible
languages, the relevant dictionary is only installed if the language has a
little abc and a tick (check mark) by it. If the tick and abc are not
there then you need to install that language's dictionary if you want to
spell check in that language.

For polyglot documents you need to read about Styles and create a set of
styles for each language you want to use, or select the text and click the
language button in the status bar at the bottom of the Writer window so that
you can choose the language for the selected text. This last method, only
available in the recently released version 2.4) is tedious if you write a
lot of multilingual documents; the use of styles is recommended in this
case. Having defined a useful set of styles you can then save and
subsequently use a template containing your defined styles so you don't have
to keep defining them.



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London, England
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[users] Re: Component questions

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:54:46 -0600, Sterling Nichols
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I was wondering which component of OpenOffice.org is the equivalent of 
Microsoft Access (for those who don't have MS Access on their computer).
 
I would also like to know which component of OpenOffice is used as the 
equivalent for XML documents.
 
I don't want to subscribe, I just would like to find out the answers to my 
questions.


If you want to edit XML documents you're probably better off using a
text editor with XML syntax support rather than a word processor. 

Xint,  PSPad or XML Notepad will all do the job, although I've had
problems with the latter, and PSPad is a bit bloated.

If you dont want to subscribe to the mailing list you can get at the
mailing list in the form of a newsgroup.

server is news.gmane.org 
newsgroup is gmane.comp.openoffice.questions.

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Re: [users] Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:29:47 +0100
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Hello mike,

 In which case, perhaps he (or a.n. other) could complete the process 
 for you. If he sends the 'unsubscribe' message for you, you could 
 then promptly forward to him the OOo response requesting 
 confirmation, and he could complete the process.
 Messy, but should work???

I suppose we can try.

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Re: [users] How To Open Microsoft Works Database (.wdb) File

2008-04-16 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:26 15/04/2008 -0700, Keith O Ehrhart wrote:
[...] For a many years now we have been using Microsoft Works to 
create our word-processing, spreadsheet and database files.

[...]
The OpenOffice Base is very unfamiliar to us.  We have tried many 
times and are unable to convert/open our Microsoft Works database 
files (Microsoft Works Database (.wdb)) to the OpenOffice Base.  To 
date we have not been successful at doing so.


If it is possible to convert/open our Microsoft Works database files 
(Microsoft Works Database (.wdb)), could you describe the procedure to do it?


I don't think you can do this directly.  But you can access the data 
in your existing database files.


Go back to your copy of Microsoft Works, open the databases in that, 
and save copies in dBase (*.dbf) format.  (Works will do this.)  Then 
create a new Base database, in the first panel of the Database Wizard 
select Connect to an existing database, scroll down to dBASE, and 
browse to your database copy.  Your new Base database will be able to 
access the data from your old database.


Alternatively, save the data from Works as Text  Commas 
(*.csv).  You can then either connect to this document from Base or 
else open the .csv file in Calc and then copy and paste the data into 
the Tables panel of Base, creating a new table in the process.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[users] Re: Updates

2008-04-16 Thread Jonathan Kaye
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where on your website can I find OpenOffice Updates for users of that
 software. I've had the automatic update come and go in my desktop toolbar,
 but I tend not to trust that stuff. I would rather go to your website and
 update my OpenOffice software. The automatic feature will just be a way to
 remind me to.
Go to www.openoffice.org
Click on the 2nd item I want to download Openoffice.org
A green rectangle will appear
Click on that
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[users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
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[users] Re: Forced to install MS office so boss can sync phone, any alternative?

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:15:35 -0400, James Knott
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Ray Bagby wrote:
 Greetings OOU,

Last week I had to install MS office for the owner of the shop so 
 he can sync
 his phone.
I know OO doesn't have an e-mail client but it's frustrating 
 because I had just
 about eradicated MS office from the entire business when I lost ground 
 because
 of the sync the smart phone deal. It was the calendar and tasks sync 
 that was most
 needed.
Is there any other alternative? Are the phone manufacturers bowing 
 at the alter
 of MS or do they have no viable alternative either?

Unfortunately, many consider Outlook to be the only email app.  However, 
depending on where the calendar is located, you may be able to use 
Thunderbird  Lightning, both of which can be found at www.mozilla.org.  
I sync my Nokia N800  Thunderbird with Google Calendar.

cool - has Google lost your Calendar yet like it loses folks mail.


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[users] Re: Invisibility of a font

2008-04-16 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Bob Dowling wrote:

 Summary:
 
 One particular combination of fonts isn't appearing in my OpenOffice.org
 font selector, even though all its variant forms are.
 
 In the font selector (for the paragraph style) I select DejaVu Sans
 for the font.  The list of typefaces I am presented in the middle column
 is then:
 ExtraLight
 Book
 Condensed Oblique
 Bold
 Bold Oblique
 
 but not simply Condensed.  However, I do have that font/typeface
 installed.  How can I get at it?
 
 
 Details:
 
 I am running OpenSuSE 10.3 and OpenOffice 2.3.0.1.2 from the OpenSuSE
 package set OpenOffice_org-*-2.3.0.1.2-10.3.  I have installed the
 DejaVu TrueType fonts from the SuSE package dejavu-2.19-14 and I have no
 reason to believe they are incorrectly installed.
 
 The font files installed are these:
snip
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed-Bold.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed-BoldOblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed-Oblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansMono-BoldOblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansMono-Oblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansMono.ttf
 
 Note, specifically, that this includes the sans serif standard and
 condensed fonts:
 
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSans-ExtraLight.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSans.ttf
 
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed-Bold.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed-BoldOblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed-Oblique.ttf
 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/DejaVuSansCondensed.ttf
 
snip
Hi Bob,
I'm using Debian Lenny with OOo2.4 and I agree with NoOp. I see the
Dejavusanscondensed with no problem. I also have the .ttf files installed
here:
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSansCondensed.ttf
As NoOp suggested, try updating your cache or reinstalling/relocating the
dejavusans fonts.
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[users] Re: downloading

2008-04-16 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Sharon Gianetto wrote:

 I started using your program in November, 2007 when I purchased a new
 computer and this was on it.
   I am having difficulty using this and go back to word and other programs
   because I have been unable to understand the operation and it is easier
   to use an old program than learn a new one, although I am always excited
   about using a new program.  I am also a quick learner.
   Every once in a while I get a message about downloading an update. 
   There is always insufficient information  telling me what this is as
   well as the the size and the time to download.  I have spent countless
   hours downloading updates only to have them be unsuccessful.  I get
   messages such as this program has been incorrupted. I am very
   dissatisfied with this. Today I started to download OpenOffice.org 2.4.0
   and it is still only at 41%. I would like to be able to use all of these
   programs, but find it difficult. Sharon Gianetto 

Hi Sharon,
I'm sorry to hear you're having troubles downloading. You don't give us very
much information so it's hard to help you. The openoffice installation file
is over 100MB in size. If you are using a dial-up connection to the
internet this will many hours to download. If you are getting a message
about the file being corrupted (this appears to happen on some Windows
systems) you can easily find the solution to your problem by noting the
exact text on the message and googling the error message along with
openoffice. You will quickly find a solution that way.
Cheers,
Jonathan

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Re: [users] Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread mike scott
On 16 Apr 2008 at 10:58, Richard Travers wrote:
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   In which case, perhaps he (or a.n. other) could complete the process 
   for you. If he sends the 'unsubscribe' message for you, you could 
   then promptly forward to him the OOo response requesting 
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   Messy, but should work???
 
  I suppose we can try.
 
  Rodney?
 
 Just a chance observation, but it seems to me that those having difficulty
 in unsubscribing are those who are using a PGP signature. This does seem to
 suppress the 'how to subscribe/unsubscribe' message that appears at the
 bottom of other posts. Could it also be interfering with the unsubscription
 process?
 
 Just a thought.

I got the idea from a previous email that mail outbound from the OP 
/to/ the list manager must have been getting lost, because he says he 
receives the unsub confirmation if someone else requests it on his 
behalf. It seems odd behaviour, as mail from the OP to the list 
itself is clearly getting through: the unsubscription address is just 
a different user on the same server.

It seems unlikely that the OOo mail system itself would selectively 
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[users] Re: Change from writer to calc

2008-04-16 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2008/04/15 7:27 AM, Tord Karlsson wrote:

Hi,

I am using version 2.4 of OpenOffice.org. on a Macintosh MacBook Pro with
X11 installed. My problem is that I can't open or change to any other
application but writer.
  


Go to File/New and select type of document you want.

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Re: [users] Unsubscribing Info

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  In which case, perhaps he (or a.n. other) could complete the process 
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Just a chance observation, but it seems to me that those having difficulty
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suppress the 'how to subscribe/unsubscribe' message that appears at the
bottom of other posts. Could it also be interfering with the unsubscription
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Re: [users] Spacing prob2

2008-04-16 Thread Dave Barton

 Original Message 
From: Mammadaly TAJAHMADY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed 16 Apr 2008 05:47:23 EST


I am using openoffice.org 2.3 and my problem is:
Having transfered my documents from windows operating
system to linux the spaces between words become dashes
and connect all words together and thus the document is useless.
What do you propose to solve this problem.


I regularly move OOo (OpenOffice.org) documents between Windows and 
Linux and I have never seen, or heard of this problem before. If you 
have a non-confidential example of a document which exhibits this 
problem, please feel free to email it to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
I will see if I can suggest a solution.


Hope this helps.

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[users] Re: [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-16 Thread Bob Estes



Albert L. Rodney wrote:

Hello,
I have just been reading about the Open Office Suite, it sounds exciting.  I am 
so tired of the outdated MS Office I am working with...my Word program is 
constantly crashing on me and trying to recover my documents and work.  I did 
not get a MS version of SW but all the dubbed copies of Office from Dell 
Computers when I bought my system in 2002.

My question is...can I uninstall the MS Office components to use your Suite, without 
loosing any of MY Documents???

I also have a load of original photography on my HD's and digitized versions that I have 
created in Photoshop.  How does all this work together?  I can't afford to lose any of my 
creative writing ex: poems, novels, screenplays or graphics  photography 
files, even if your SW is FREE.
Barbara Rodney
Portland, OR
503-327-4797


Yes, you can uninstall the MS Office components, or you can leave them 
installed.  I still have Office 97 installed on my machine even though I 
use Open Office.org.  When you install OO.o you will be asked if you want 
to make it the default program to open MS Office files.  The choice is 
yours and you can change it later if you want.  Macros from MS Office will 
not work properly in OO.o, so you will need to redo any that you have. 
That is the primary reason I still have Office 97 installed.  I had created 
some online forms that I seldom use anymore, and I haven't redone the 
macro's in OO.o.  Another thing is that some esoteric formating may not 
convert properly.  Installing OO.o will not have any impact on any files 
that are stored on your hard drive.  Pictures from Photoshop can be 
imported into OO.o just like they can be imported into MS Office.  The menu 
and command structure in OO.o is similar to Ms Office, but it is not 
identical.  Once you get used to the differences, I think you will love 
OO.o.  When you save a file from OO.o, you can save it in the default Open 
Document Format (ODF) or you can select another format (including MS 
formats) from a drop down list.  If you open a MS formated file then save 
it in ODF you will have both files on you hard drive.



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Re: [users] use of non-english spelling characters in creating data

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 16/04/2008, S  H Manterys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you kindly for the reply, and please bear with me,

 I did find  understand the instructions for use of non-English spelling
 i Open Office - BUT, now I see that my original query would have been
 clearer had I used the terms symbols  special characters

 My specific question relates to assigning shortcut keys to insert Latin
 Extended-A Polish letters directly from the keyboard in only one step, to
 avoid the cumbersome process of, for each letter, taking 4 steps by
 selecting Insert, then special characters, then choosing the character
 with the mouse, then input it in the document.

 For comparison, Microsoft Word, in its Insert menu, in addition to
 Special characters (of the like you have in OpenOffice) has a Symbols
 (non-english letters, distinguished there from Special Characters) option,
 allowing for the chosen letter to be assigned a key combination, eg.
 Alt+character from the standard qwerty keyboard (this method allows me
 uninterupted flow when typing in a non-english language). Can I achieve
 similar in OpenOffice? I did try to find it in OpenOffice, but perhaps I am
 missing something obvious .

 Hope this makes sense.
 Regards
 Stan


Ah. Different.

You can customise keys via the ToolsCustomiseKeyboard menu but,
unfortunately, OpenOffice does not allow the use of the Alt or Alt Gr key.

There are various free tools available for entering non-English accented
characters and ligatures.

I use the Enhanced UK Keyboard at
http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~ecl6tam/http://www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/%7Eecl6tam/
. It uses dead (normally unused) keys followed by normal ones to
produce a variety of non-English characters. So for example, when turned on
(by selecting it in the taskbar), an ampersand () followed by an a
produces the Scandinavian æ (ae) ligature and a percent sign (%) followed
by an o produces ǒ (an o with an inverted circumflex over it). There's a
nice printable chart in the Help file that you can keep by your keyboard
till you've learnt the combinations you need :-) . You'll need to check that
it handles all the characters you need: download the .zip file and look at
the .pdf file within it which contains the nice printable chart.

There's also the Quick Unicode Input Tool at
http://www.cardbox.com/quick.htm which allows you to type the Alt key and
the 3 or 4-digit number (on the numeric keypad) representing the Unicode
value of the character you want. I've used this and it works but I find it
less convenient than the Enhanced UK Keyboard. I think, though, that it has
a wider coverage of characters and symbols.

These both work in *any* Windows program.

There's also http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/tools/msklc.mspx which
allegedly lets you define your own keyboard layout. I've never used. It's
also supposed to work in any Windows program ...

Hope this helps.




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Re: [users] Updates

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Where on your website can I find OpenOffice Updates for users of that software. 
I've had the automatic update come and go in my desktop toolbar, but I tend not

to trust that stuff. I would rather go to your website and update my OpenOffice
software. The automatic feature will just be a way to remind me to.

  


There is no separate update.  You just install the full new package.


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Re: [users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread Brad Rogers
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Re: [users] downloading

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Sharon Gianetto wrote:

I started using your program in November, 2007 when I purchased a new computer 
and this was on it.
  I am having difficulty using this and go back to word and other programs 
because I have been unable to understand the operation and it is easier to use 
an old program than learn a new one, although I am always excited about using a 
new program.  I am also a quick learner.
  Every once in a while I get a message about downloading an update.  There is 
always insufficient information  telling me what this is as well as the the 
size and the time to download.  I have spent countless hours downloading 
updates only to have them be unsuccessful.  I get messages such as this program 
has been incorrupted.
  I am very dissatisfied with this.
  Today I started to download OpenOffice.org 2.4.0 and it is still only at 41%.
  I would like to be able to use all of these programs, but find it difficult.
  Sharon Gianetto
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 between -00-00 and -99-99
  
Are you using dial up internet access?  If so, you could be losing the 
connection part way through the download.  An update in OpenOffice means 
installing the entire new version.  What happens if you manually 
download the latest version from www.openoffice.org and then install it?



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Re: [users] [moderated]

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Roy McCallop, Notary Public wrote:
Hello:  
  For some reason I do not have a desktop icon or other means to open the OpenOffice suite of applications.  I have recently installed 2.4 but how do I access the different applications.
   
  


Installing OpenOffice does not place an icon on the desktop.  Assuming 
you're using Windows, there should be an OpenOffice folder and icons in 
your Start menu.  If you enabled the quick starter, there should also be 
an icon towards the right end of your task bar.



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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE I cannot open any of my documents that I have written with openoffice. what to do? I

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Theresa Aldrich wrote:

I have tried to reinstall and the repair that comes with it but nothing works. 
Should I uninstall it and just loose all my documents? They won't even print!
   

  
Uninstalling OpenOffice will not affect your documents.  Do you get any 
error messages when you try to print?  Are there any other problems?



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Re: [users] Proof Reading

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Robert Dailey wrote:

Hi,

I'm fairly new to Open Office Writer, so bare with me.


Ummm...

I think I'll keep my clothes on.  ;-)


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Re: [users] [moderated]

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

KUNSCH ROBERT wrote:

Dear Sirs,

I installed OpenOffice on my U3 Cruzer USB key.

It seems to work fine at the office with Windows XP SP2, but it does 
not work at home with Windows Vista Home Edition.

It keeps telling me that it cannot find some files.
Do You have any suggestion ?



OpenOffice is designed to run on the computer it was installed on.  To 
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Re: [users] Microsoft's OOXML trophy is conditional

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Fred A. Miller wrote:

Those that giveth can also taketh away


Given the FAQ ISO published, that might not be so likely.  It's quite 
obvious that this standard was bought and they're bending over 
backwards to make sure it stays one.


http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080415150233162

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Re: [users] Re:Trouble with Outlook Express since downloading OOo2.4

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Bud Oliver wrote:

I down loaded OOo2.4 and 2.4 is now the default to open saved email.  I've 
tried to have Outlook Express as the default but when I click on the icon it 
just opens the program not the saved email.  I have the XP operating system.
Any ideas what is going on?  I'm an old guy trying my best on the computer.
Thanks,
Bud
  
Outlook is a poor email program that causes many problems.  You may be 
happier with Thunderbird, which can be found at www.mozilla.org.  While 
you're there, you might also get Firefox, to use as a replacement for 
Internet Explorer.



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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Albert L. Rodney wrote:

Hello,
I have just been reading about the Open Office Suite, it sounds exciting.  I am 
so tired of the outdated MS Office I am working with...my Word program is 
constantly crashing on me and trying to recover my documents and work.  I did 
not get a MS version of SW but all the dubbed copies of Office from Dell 
Computers when I bought my system in 2002.

My question is...can I uninstall the MS Office components to use your Suite, without 
loosing any of MY Documents???

I also have a load of original photography on my HD's and digitized versions that I have 
created in Photoshop.  How does all this work together?  I can't afford to lose any of my 
creative writing ex: poems, novels, screenplays or graphics  photography 
files, even if your SW is FREE.
  


You do not have to uninstall Microsoft Office, if you don't want to.  
You can have it and OpenOffice installed on the same computer.  You 
shouldn't lose any of your documents by installing or removing 
applications.  However, as always, it's a good idea to back up your 
documents.



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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-16 Thread Dave Barton

 Original Message 
From: Albert L. Rodney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed 16 Apr 2008 17:27:27 EST


Hello,
I have just been reading about the Open Office Suite, it sounds
exciting.  I am so tired of the outdated MS Office I am working
with...my Word program is constantly crashing on me and trying to
recover my documents and work.  I did not get a MS version of SW but
all the dubbed copies of Office from Dell Computers when I bought my
system in 2002.

My question is...can I uninstall the MS Office components to use your
Suite, without loosing any of MY Documents???

I also have a load of original photography on my HD's and digitized
versions that I have created in Photoshop.  How does all this work
together?  I can't afford to lose any of my creative writing ex:
poems, novels, screenplays or graphics  photography files, even if
your SW is FREE.
Barbara Rodney


Barbara,

You don't have to worry about losing documents or other data files you 
have created when you uninstall the software/programs you used to create 
those files. Installing OOo (OpenOffice.org) will not delete, remove or 
otherwise interfere with anything you have created with any programs.


That said, there are couple of things you might like to consider:

* You do not have to uninstall MS Office, just because you are going to 
install OOo. There may be the odd occasion when it may be useful to have 
access to MS Office. You can uninstall it if you wish, but OOo will 
happily co-exist on the same computer with MS Office.


* You should always regularly backup your data files (eg. writings, 
photographs, etc) to another medium (eg. DVD, external hard disk drive, 
etc.). Disk drives have a limited life and no matter how good their 
quality, ultimately they all fail.


There are 3 golden rules in computing  ;)

1, BACKUP YOUR VALUABLE DATA REGULARLY.
2. See rule 1,
3, See rules 1  2.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-16 Thread Dave Barton

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Date: Wed 16 Apr 2008 21:01:59 EST


Albert L. Rodney wrote:

Hello,
I have just been reading about the Open Office Suite, it sounds 
exciting.  I am so tired of the outdated MS Office I am working 
with...my Word program is constantly crashing on me and trying to 
recover my documents and work.  I did not get a MS version of SW but 
all the dubbed copies of Office from Dell Computers when I bought my 
system in 2002.


My question is...can I uninstall the MS Office components to use your 
Suite, without loosing any of MY Documents???


I also have a load of original photography on my HD's and digitized 
versions that I have created in Photoshop.  How does all this work 
together?  I can't afford to lose any of my creative writing ex: 
poems, novels, screenplays or graphics  photography files, even if 
your SW is FREE.

Barbara Rodney


Yes, you can uninstall the MS Office components, or you can leave them 
installed.  I still have Office 97 installed on my machine even though I 
use Open Office.org.  When you install OO.o you will be asked if you 
want to make it the default program to open MS Office files.  The choice 
is yours and you can change it later if you want.  Macros from MS Office 
will not work properly in OO.o, so you will need to redo any that you 
have. That is the primary reason I still have Office 97 installed.  I 
had created some online forms that I seldom use anymore, and I haven't 
redone the macro's in OO.o.  Another thing is that some esoteric 
formating may not convert properly.  Installing OO.o will not have any 
impact on any files that are stored on your hard drive.  Pictures from 
Photoshop can be imported into OO.o just like they can be imported into 
MS Office.  The menu and command structure in OO.o is similar to Ms 
Office, but it is not identical.  Once you get used to the differences, 
I think you will love OO.o.  When you save a file from OO.o, you can 
save it in the default Open Document Format (ODF) or you can select 
another format (including MS formats) from a drop down list.  If you 
open a MS formated file then save it in ODF you will have both files on 
you hard drive.





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[users] currencies in Calc-still no luck

2008-04-16 Thread Joe Grech

I think this time is OK but still no MTL converter. Here is the file again.

node oor:name=CR13 oor:op=replace
  prop oor:name=FromUnit
valueEUR/value
  /prop
  prop oor:name=ToUnit
valueSIT/value
  /prop
  prop oor:name=Factor
value239.64/value
  /prop
/node
node oor:name=CR14 oor:op=replace
  prop oor:name=FromUnit
valueEUR/value
  /prop
  prop oor:name=ToUnit
valueMTL/value
  /prop
  prop oor:name=Factor
value0.429300/value
  /prop
/node
node oor:name=Calculate


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Re: [users] Re: Forced to install MS office so boss can sync phone, any alternative?

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Urbane Tiger wrote:
Unfortunately, many consider Outlook to be the only email app.  However, 
depending on where the calendar is located, you may be able to use 
Thunderbird  Lightning, both of which can be found at www.mozilla.org.  
I sync my Nokia N800  Thunderbird with Google Calendar.



cool - has Google lost your Calendar yet like it loses folks mail.

  


Not that I've noticed.  Then again, it's easy enough to lose email and 
calendars in Outlook too.



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Re: [users] Re: Forced to install MS office so boss can sync phone, any alternative?

2008-04-16 Thread Richard Detwiler

James Knott wrote:

Urbane Tiger wrote:
Unfortunately, many consider Outlook to be the only email app.  
However, depending on where the calendar is located, you may be able 
to use Thunderbird  Lightning, both of which can be found at 
www.mozilla.org.  I sync my Nokia N800  Thunderbird with Google 
Calendar. 


cool - has Google lost your Calendar yet like it loses folks mail.
  


Not that I've noticed.  Then again, it's easy enough to lose email and 
calendars in Outlook too.


And in Thunderbird -- at least e-mail -- has happened to me on more than 
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Re: [users] How To Open Microsoft Works Database (.wdb) File

2008-04-16 Thread Drew Jensen

Keith O Ehrhart wrote:

Greetings,

We are a new user of OpenOffice.  For a many years now we have been using
Microsoft Works to create our word-processing, spreadsheet and database files.

  


snip




If it is possible to convert/open our Microsoft Works database files (Microsoft
Works Database (.wdb)), could you describe the procedure to do it?

  


OpenOffice.org Base does not support the .wdb file format. To work the 
data contained within those files you must export the data, just open 
each and select save as, to a CSV, TXT or dBase IV file format, from 
within Works, first. Dbase is the best choice, IMO, and files will be 
named .dbf


When you start Base then, select 'Connect to existing databse and in 
the drop down for type select dBase. On the next page select the 
directory where you saved the .dbf files and finish up. When the Base 
file is opened the files will each be listed as a separate table.


NOTE - at this point the data is NOT in a native Base relational 
database, but simple dBase flat files. If you want to take the process 
to the next step and import these to a relational database that can be 
done also. The best thing would be to get the files to this stage first, 
then let the list know you are ready and one of us can help you with the 
last step. ( for that matter you might want to look at why you might 
want to do that, it may be that there is no benefit to it actually and 
leaving the data as is, is the better choice - again just ask on the 
list here )


Drew

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[users] Re: Re:Trouble with Outlook Express since downloading OOo2.4

2008-04-16 Thread Twayne
 Bud Oliver wrote:
 I down loaded OOo2.4 and 2.4 is now the default to open saved email.
 I've tried to have Outlook Express as the default but when I click
 on the icon it just opens the program not the saved email.  I have
 the XP operating system. Any ideas what is going on?  I'm an old guy
 trying my best on the computer.   Thanks,
 Bud

 Outlook is a poor email program that causes many problems.  You may be
 happier with Thunderbird, which can be found at www.mozilla.org. While 
 you're there, you might also get Firefox, to use as a
 replacement for Internet Explorer.

Well, that's within about ten miles of the OP's question; and was a 
waste of ether!
Please make comments/responses on-topic to the OPs needs.
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[users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-16 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Barker) wrote:

 *From:* Brian Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:55:54 +0100
 
 At 15:26 14/04/2008 +0100, Niall Martin wrote:
 In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using copy and 
 paste to batch paste direct to the cells in the table, but in OO I 
 seem to have to paste special into the document as text, and then 
 turn what I have pasted into a table.  I find this rather long 
 winded and awkward. Have I missed something?
 
 Possibly.  I think that, in Writer, this is even easier than you 
 hope.  Don't create any table first.  Instead, copy the cells from 
 your spreadsheet and then use Edit | Paste Special... (or 
 Ctrl+Shift+V), selecting DDE link from the options.  This creates 
 a table with your imported values, which you can then format as you 
 require.
 
 Note that this technique actually creates a link to the source 
 spreadsheet instead of a copy - so the spreadsheet file must 
 continue to be available and any subsequent change to it will be 
 reflected in your Writer document.  If this is not what you need, 
 after you have pasted the link, go to Edit | Links..., select the 
 relevant link in the list, and press Break Link.  You will now have 
 an independent text document.
 
 I trust this helps.
 
 Brian Barker
 
I did experiment briefly with the DDE option, but abandoned it at once,
since it did not seem to be doing  what I wanted.  Your second paragraph
I regard as  a workaround which I will  try some time, but still regard
as rather clumsy.  Thanks for your  comment. 

Niall Martin


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[users] Re: Writers Tools

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:45:45 +0100, Harold Fuchs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 16/04/2008, Urbane Tiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been trying to get onto the WritersTools website for 2 days,
 Google keeps telling me to try again in 30 seconds - seems that its in
 plutonic rather than earth seconds.

 Does anyone know of a Writer's Tools news group or discussion forum,
 that's not hosted by %$!*+? Gooogle, that I can get to.


I don't know if it's the same thing but it has the same name:
http://nothickmanuals.info/doku.php/writertools and the download works.

I'd already got the software and had it half installed, but I was
having trouble with the 2nd half of the install.  But I sussed it out.

Not sure if the manner in which this add-on is distributed is typical,
but one  needs to be more than a little savvy with the operating
system to get it up and running.  Guess things like WU and FF xpi's
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[users] Re: Re:Trouble with Outlook Express since downloading OOo2.4

2008-04-16 Thread Twayne
 I down loaded OOo2.4 and 2.4 is now the default to open saved email.
 I've tried to have Outlook Express as the default but when I click on
 the icon it just opens the program not the saved email.  I have the
 XP operating system.
 Any ideas what is going on?  I'm an old guy trying my best on the
 computer.
 Thanks,
 Bud

I don't know why OOo is opening your saved emails unless you've set it 
to do so and I don't even know if that's possible.  Or; Are you saying 
that clicking on the OE icon opens OOo?  It sounds like either a file 
association has been changed or the link for a shortcut has been 
damaged.  Neither should have been a result of installing OOo but 
strange things to happen now and then.

Try explaining the problem again but replace the words it and the 
program with specific names, etc., so it's a lot clearer what you mean. 
It's probably a simple fix.
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Twayne

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[users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-16 Thread R N D Martin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin) wrote:

 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R N D Martin)
 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:02 +0100 (BST)
 
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 (Ahromi
 Irawan) wrote:
 
  *From:* Ahromi Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* users@openoffice.org
  *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:00:11 +0700
  
  Pada Tanggal 04/14/2008 09:26 PM, R N D Martin Menulis:
   In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using cop and 
   paste  to
   batch paste direct to  the cells in the table, but in OO I seem 
   to have
   to paste special into the document as text, and then turn what 
  I  have
   pasted into a table.  I find this rather long winded and 
  awkward.   Have I
   missed something?
  
   Niall Martin
 
  Edit | Paste Special | Formatted Text
  
  HTH
  
  -- 
  Ahromi Irawan
  Cirebon
  
 Thanks.  I'll try that again, but my  memory is that it pasted an 
 image
 of the bit of the spreadsheet  rather than distributing the items 
 over
 the fields.
 
 Niall Martin
 
I repeated the operation, and found it pasted everything in column 1 of
the table I created, definitely not what I wanted.

Niall Martin


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[users] Re: Updates

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:06:40 -0400, James Knott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where on your website can I find OpenOffice Updates for users of that 
 software. 
 I've had the automatic update come and go in my desktop toolbar, but I tend 
 not
 to trust that stuff. I would rather go to your website and update my 
 OpenOffice
 software. The automatic feature will just be a way to remind me to.

   

There is no separate update.  You just install the full new package.
OOo aka chateau b'qem (bandwidth quota eating monster) :-)


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[users] Re: [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-16 Thread Twayne
 Hello,
 I have just been reading about the Open Office Suite, it sounds
 exciting.  I am so tired of the outdated MS Office I am working
 with...my Word program is constantly crashing on me and trying to
 recover my documents and work.  I did not get a MS version of SW but
 all the dubbed copies of Office from Dell Computers when I bought my
 system in 2002.

 My question is...can I uninstall the MS Office components to use your
 Suite, without loosing any of MY Documents???

 I also have a load of original photography on my HD's and digitized
 versions that I have created in Photoshop.  How does all this work
 together?  I can't afford to lose any of my creative writing ex:
 poems, novels, screenplays or graphics  photography files, even if
 your SW is FREE.
 Barbara Rodney
 Portland, OR
 503-327-4797

Barbara,

No.  You will not lose any of the files you created using MSOffice that 
are stored in My Documents or subfolders under it. 
Installing/uninstalling apps will not affect files that you have 
created. Uninstalling MS Office will not delet them if you wish to 
uninstall it.  Actually if you're still in the learning curve on OOo, 
it's a good idea to leave office installed for awhile until you're sure 
you can do without it.

That said, if your creative writing is important to you, eventually 
you WILL have a problem of some sort, unrelated to OOo, eventually, and 
you WILL lose all, most, or some of your work.  It is extremely 
important to back up that data to another location NOT on your hard 
drive.  Either an external hard drive or better  yet, CD or DVD media. 
Sometime between the next few seconds and a few years from now, you WILL 
lose files for the normal| corruption and problems that operating 
systems encounter.  Also viruses, worms, trojans, etc. can delete them 
if you get the right one.
   Somehow, some way, please get your data copied to CDs or DVDs or 
stored somewhere else than on your computer so that you can replace t 
hem if you ever need to.  There are many methods from simply copying to 
imaging software to do this for you.

Second, you should never post personal data on a newsgroup, even this 
one.
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Twayne

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Re: [users] Proof Reading

2008-04-16 Thread Robert Dailey
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:17 AM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert Dailey wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I'm fairly new to Open Office Writer, so bare with me.
 

 Ummm...

 I think I'll keep my clothes on.  ;-)


Sorry, I meant bear :)

Thanks for the help everyone.


[users] WriterTools - do they work? are they worth the effort?

2008-04-16 Thread William Case
Hi;

Just saw a reference to WriterTools for the first time in one of today's
threads.  http://nothickmanuals.info/doku.php/writertools 

I visited the site and liked some of the tools advertised, especially
the foreign phrase translation.  I suspect it is just a link to a
translation site.  That's OK - but does it work?

For example, will it translate Latin phrases?

Are the other tools well integrated into OOo?

Is it worth the download and installing trouble, or am I just getting
toys?

Any quick comments or recommendations gratefully received.
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Re: [users] Re: Forced to install MS office so boss can sync phone, any alternative?

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

Richard Detwiler wrote:

James Knott wrote:

Urbane Tiger wrote:
Unfortunately, many consider Outlook to be the only email app.  
However, depending on where the calendar is located, you may be able 
to use Thunderbird  Lightning, both of which can be found at 
www.mozilla.org.  I sync my Nokia N800  Thunderbird with Google 
Calendar. 


cool - has Google lost your Calendar yet like it loses folks mail.
  


Not that I've noticed.  Then again, it's easy enough to lose email and 
calendars in Outlook too.


And in Thunderbird -- at least e-mail -- has happened to me on more than 
one occasion.


In all the years I've been using Netscape, Seamonkey  Thunderbird, I 
don't think I've ever seen that happen.  In Outlook, the culprit is the 
.PST files which tend to corrupt, if allowed to grow too big.



Let me know if you don't get this message.  ;-)


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Re: [users] Spacing prob2

2008-04-16 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/16, Dave Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Original Message 
 From: Mammadaly TAJAHMADY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed 16 Apr 2008 05:47:23 EST

  I am using openoffice.org 2.3 and my problem is:
  Having transfered my documents from windows operating
  system to linux the spaces between words become dashes
  and connect all words together and thus the document is useless.
  What do you propose to solve this problem.
 

 I regularly move OOo (OpenOffice.org) documents between Windows and Linux
 and I have never seen, or heard of this problem before. If you have a
 non-confidential example of a document which exhibits this problem, please
 feel free to email it to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will see if I
 can suggest a solution.

 Hope this helps.

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Hello,

Try to uncheck/untick the ViewUnprintable Chararcters option.
Does that help?
-- 
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and brazilian OOo SRC 680 m241 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
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[users] Re: fonts for certificates (Calligraphic or Gothi?)

2008-04-16 Thread H.S.

Jim Allan wrote:

JOE Conner wrote:


GOOGLE is your friend.

http://www.1001freefonts.com/

http://simplythebest.net/fonts/

http://www.free-fonts.com/

http://www.searchfreefonts.com/

*1-10 of 140,000* for *FREE 
http://www.google.com/url?sa=Xoi=dictei=Ut0ESJuBA42ogQT44fCACQsig2=CQ3kMbq298jUimfSM2zP_Qq=http://www.answers.com/free%26r%3D67usg=AFQjCNFeddomeTArjF5WpA5qBboXgjSenA 
FONTS 
http://www.google.com/url?sa=Xoi=dictei=Ut0ESJuBA42ogQT44fCACQsig2=jJvc8CzlkbI1jC73hLQ_jQq=http://www.answers.com/fonts%26r%3D67usg=AFQjCNHpqPMwfJCKtXLmx_94ob-06nwzpQ*. 
(*0.21* seconds)


And to answer your other question: no, you cannot embed fonts in 
OpenOffice.org documents.


However, you can embed fonts in a PDF document created by 
OpenOffice.org. Perhaps that will be satisfactory to you.


Jim Allan



Thanks guys, the links helped a lot.
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Re: [users] currencies in Calc-still no luck

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 16/04/2008, Joe Grech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I think this time is OK but still no MTL converter. Here is the file
 again.

 node oor:name=CR13 oor:op=replace
   prop oor:name=FromUnit
 valueEUR/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=ToUnit
 valueSIT/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=Factor
 value239.64/value
   /prop
 /node
 node oor:name=CR14 oor:op=replace
   prop oor:name=FromUnit
 valueEUR/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=ToUnit
 valueMTL/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=Factor
 value0.429300/value
   /prop
 /node
 node oor:name=Calculate


This looks OK. Did you quit OpenOffice *and* the Quickstarter *before*
making the changes to the file? Also, as I said in my originaal reply to
you, this only affects the CONVERT function; it does *not* affect the
Wizard.

If you still have no joy then, sorry, but without sitting at your keyboard
and seeing what is going on, I've run out of ideas.


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Re: [users] Re: Updates

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 16/04/2008, Urbane Tiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:06:40 -0400, James Knott
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Where on your website can I find OpenOffice Updates for users of that
 software.
  I've had the automatic update come and go in my desktop toolbar, but I
 tend not
  to trust that stuff. I would rather go to your website and update my
 OpenOffice
  software. The automatic feature will just be a way to remind me to.
 
 
 
 There is no separate update.  You just install the full new package.

 OOo aka chateau b'qem (bandwidth quota eating monster) :-)


You can always order it on CD for a few pounds/euros/dollars ...
Or check this month's computer magazine (pretty much any) and see if it
isn't on the CD/DVD that came with it.


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Re: [users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-16 Thread Ganesha Bhaskara



Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:



NoOp wrote:

On 04/13/2008 10:44 PM, Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:

NoOp wrote:

BTW: where are you getting M6 from? M3 installed fine for me (.deb
files), but M5 keeps wanting to be king of the hill and take over my 
2.4.0.
ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/DEV300/DEV300_m6/Build-1 



This is Pavel Janik's build.



Thanks - got it. Whew, that build doesn't install to ooo-dev and instead
installs to /opt/openoffice.org3.0, so it took me awhile to figure out
how to get 2.3.1, 2.4.0, and 3.0M6 all working on the same machine.

2.3.1 exhibits the problem described by the OP - but not consistent -
meaning that sometimes it goes into cpu overload, other times not.
Sometimes can open, sometimes not - very odd.

2.4.0  3.0M6 open OK, but 3.0M6 is definitely slower in opening.
Additionally, the document spacing is different between the two. Example:
- page 20 in M6 shows 'Student' thru 'Afstudeer coördinator'.
- Page 20 in 2.4.0 'maart t/m mei 2007literatuurstudie' thru 
'Student'.


Both running on the same system, both are open at the same time   using
the same fonts. I'm not sure where the spacing problem comes from.

I wonder if the problem on 2.3.1  SO8/9 and 2.4.0 (see below) are
related to the fact that the document is basically a 21 page table.

I also found that if I select the table in 2.4.0 and give it borders, I
get a cpu overload (this is a 2.4Ghz/1GB system). I do not have the same
problem with 3.0M6.

So it appears to be a problem in the 2.x as you mentioned in your
initial reply. My guess would be that he would not encounter the problem
if he'd have used frames instead of a 21 page table.


Yes . that I thought was a rather strange choice for formatting the 
document. But, that said, technically OO shouldn't really care about 
semantics.


I will submit a bug report later today about this issue.


Filed  http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88348

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Re: [users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-16 Thread Ganesha Bhaskara



Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:



NoOp wrote:

On 04/13/2008 10:44 PM, Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:

NoOp wrote:

BTW: where are you getting M6 from? M3 installed fine for me (.deb
files), but M5 keeps wanting to be king of the hill and take over my 
2.4.0.
ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/DEV300/DEV300_m6/Build-1 



This is Pavel Janik's build.



Thanks - got it. Whew, that build doesn't install to ooo-dev and instead
installs to /opt/openoffice.org3.0, so it took me awhile to figure out
how to get 2.3.1, 2.4.0, and 3.0M6 all working on the same machine.

2.3.1 exhibits the problem described by the OP - but not consistent -
meaning that sometimes it goes into cpu overload, other times not.
Sometimes can open, sometimes not - very odd.

2.4.0  3.0M6 open OK, but 3.0M6 is definitely slower in opening.
Additionally, the document spacing is different between the two. Example:
- page 20 in M6 shows 'Student' thru 'Afstudeer coördinator'.
- Page 20 in 2.4.0 'maart t/m mei 2007literatuurstudie' thru 
'Student'.


Both running on the same system, both are open at the same time   using
the same fonts. I'm not sure where the spacing problem comes from.

I wonder if the problem on 2.3.1  SO8/9 and 2.4.0 (see below) are
related to the fact that the document is basically a 21 page table.

I also found that if I select the table in 2.4.0 and give it borders, I
get a cpu overload (this is a 2.4Ghz/1GB system). I do not have the same
problem with 3.0M6.

So it appears to be a problem in the 2.x as you mentioned in your
initial reply. My guess would be that he would not encounter the problem
if he'd have used frames instead of a 21 page table.


Yes . that I thought was a rather strange choice for formatting the 
document. But, that said, technically OO shouldn't really care about 
semantics.


I will submit a bug report later today about this issue.


Filed  http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88348

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[users] OOo to support OOXML import only, not export

2008-04-16 Thread James Knott

http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/office_open_xml_ooxml_filters
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Re: [users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Adams
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:11 +0100 (BST)
R N D Martin wrote:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Barker) wrote:
 
  *From:* Brian Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* users@openoffice.org
  *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:55:54 +0100
  
  At 15:26 14/04/2008 +0100, Niall Martin wrote:
  In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using copy and 
  paste to batch paste direct to the cells in the table, but in OO I 
  seem to have to paste special into the document as text, and then 
  turn what I have pasted into a table.  I find this rather long 
  winded and awkward. Have I missed something?
  
  Possibly.  I think that, in Writer, this is even easier than you 
  hope.  Don't create any table first.  Instead, copy the cells from 
  your spreadsheet and then use Edit | Paste Special... (or 
  Ctrl+Shift+V), selecting DDE link from the options.  This creates 
  a table with your imported values, which you can then format as you 
  require.
  
  Note that this technique actually creates a link to the source 
  spreadsheet instead of a copy - so the spreadsheet file must 
  continue to be available and any subsequent change to it will be 
  reflected in your Writer document.  If this is not what you need, 
  after you have pasted the link, go to Edit | Links..., select the 
  relevant link in the list, and press Break Link.  You will now have 
  an independent text document.
  
  I trust this helps.
  
  Brian Barker
  
 I did experiment briefly with the DDE option, but abandoned it at
 once, since it did not seem to be doing  what I wanted.  Your second
 paragraph I regard as  a workaround which I will  try some time, but
 still regard as rather clumsy.  Thanks for your  comment. 
 

I am a bit confused as to your technique. I thought calc data pasted as
a table without the need for creating the table first.

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Re: [users] OOo to support OOXML import only, not export

2008-04-16 Thread Robin Laing

James Knott wrote:

http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/office_open_xml_ooxml_filters


But this blog post is 9 months old.  Things have changed in the real 
world since then.


I would like to see confirmation that this is still the case.

On that matter, I really don't care if OOo can export to OOXML, as I can 
export to pdf which I know works.  Or do another format that I know works.


My question is will Microsoft follow the OOXML standard themselves?
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Re: [users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-16 Thread Barbara Duprey

R N D Martin wrote:

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Barker) wrote:

  

*From:* Brian Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* users@openoffice.org
*Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:55:54 +0100

At 15:26 14/04/2008 +0100, Niall Martin wrote:

In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using copy and 
  
paste to batch paste direct to the cells in the table, but in OO I 
seem to have to paste special into the document as text, and then 
turn what I have pasted into a table.  I find this rather long 
winded and awkward. Have I missed something?


Possibly.  I think that, in Writer, this is even easier than you 
hope.  Don't create any table first.  Instead, copy the cells from 
your spreadsheet and then use Edit | Paste Special... (or 
Ctrl+Shift+V), selecting DDE link from the options.  This creates 
a table with your imported values, which you can then format as you 
require.


Note that this technique actually creates a link to the source 
spreadsheet instead of a copy - so the spreadsheet file must 
continue to be available and any subsequent change to it will be 
reflected in your Writer document.  If this is not what you need, 
after you have pasted the link, go to Edit | Links..., select the 
relevant link in the list, and press Break Link.  You will now have 
an independent text document.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



I did experiment briefly with the DDE option, but abandoned it at once,
since it did not seem to be doing  what I wanted.  Your second paragraph
I regard as  a workaround which I will  try some time, but still regard
as rather clumsy.  Thanks for your  comment. 


Niall Martin
Niall, have you done the Paste Special as formatted test? That seems to 
preserve more of the formatting than the DDE link, whether later broken 
or not. You should end up with a table immediately after doing the Paste 
Special that comes pretty close to what you had in Calc. When you say 
turn what I have pasted into a table what kind of steps are you going 
through? Maybe we can help with that part.



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Re: [users] OOo to support OOXML import only, not export

2008-04-16 Thread Scott Castaline

Robin Laing wrote:

James Knott wrote:

http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entry/office_open_xml_ooxml_filters


But this blog post is 9 months old.  Things have changed in the real 
world since then.


I would like to see confirmation that this is still the case.

On that matter, I really don't care if OOo can export to OOXML, as I 
can export to pdf which I know works.  Or do another format that I 
know works.


My question is will Microsoft follow the OOXML standard themselves?
Historically they will probably not directly support a truly open 
standard. I do not see anything that makes me feel that this truly 
different and that M$ is truly a convert and embracing the Open 
Software Community. It looks more like ther old sales floor scam of 
Bait  Switch.


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[users] Re: periods in column headings in calc and mail merge

2008-04-16 Thread NoOp
On 04/15/2008 05:05 PM, H.S. wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 
 What sort of wierd problems? It's also helpful if you let us know what
 version of OOo  Operating System...
 
 I was printing labels using the data. Initially, all the labels turned 
 out to be the same. If I created the labels by using only the fields 
 which had no period in them, then the data came out okay.

Interesting... For this next test I didn't use mailmerge, but instead
just created a new label document (File|New|Labels) and found that if I
use Zip the zip field appears properly. However, if I use P.C., I
end up with an empty  field.

Probably worth filing a bug (the honor goes to he/she that posted first
:-) as I can't seem to find a related one already filed (so far).




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[users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-16 Thread NoOp
On 04/16/2008 09:19 AM, Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:

 
 I will submit a bug report later today about this issue.
 
 Filed  http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88348

Thanks. BTW, I've not heard back from the OP so I hope that he managed
to get his thesis completed.


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Re: [users] Re: [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-16 Thread Dave Barton

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 Original Message 
From: Twayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed 16 Apr 2008 23:26:21 EST


Hello,
I have just been reading about the Open Office Suite, it sounds
exciting.  I am so tired of the outdated MS Office I am working
with...my Word program is constantly crashing on me and trying to
recover my documents and work.  I did not get a MS version of SW but
all the dubbed copies of Office from Dell Computers when I bought my
system in 2002.

My question is...can I uninstall the MS Office components to use your
Suite, without loosing any of MY Documents???

I also have a load of original photography on my HD's and digitized
versions that I have created in Photoshop.  How does all this work
together?  I can't afford to lose any of my creative writing ex:
poems, novels, screenplays or graphics  photography files, even if
your SW is FREE.
Barbara Rodney
Portland, OR
503-327-4797


Barbara,

No.  You will not lose any of the files you created using MSOffice that 
are stored in My Documents or subfolders under it. 
Installing/uninstalling apps will not affect files that you have 
created. Uninstalling MS Office will not delet them if you wish to 
uninstall it.  Actually if you're still in the learning curve on OOo, 
it's a good idea to leave office installed for awhile until you're sure 
you can do without it.


That said, if your creative writing is important to you, eventually 
you WILL have a problem of some sort, unrelated to OOo, eventually, and 
you WILL lose all, most, or some of your work.  It is extremely 
important to back up that data to another location NOT on your hard 
drive.  Either an external hard drive or better  yet, CD or DVD media. 
Sometime between the next few seconds and a few years from now, you WILL 
lose files for the normal| corruption and problems that operating 
systems encounter.  Also viruses, worms, trojans, etc. can delete them 
if you get the right one.
   Somehow, some way, please get your data copied to CDs or DVDs or 
stored somewhere else than on your computer so that you can replace t 
hem if you ever need to.  There are many methods from simply copying to 
imaging software to do this for you.


Second, you should never post personal data on a newsgroup, even this 
one.





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[users] Sound and presentations

2008-04-16 Thread Paul Elliott

I have the version of open office that comes with opensuse 10.3.
About OpenOffice.org shows version 2.3.0

I am having problems with sound.


If I attach a sound with 'Insert/Movie and Sound' it works, that is
sound plays if I do a slide show. The file has to be an .ogg or an
.mp3 not a .wav file.

However the sound seems to be attached via a link the sound is not
part of the .odp. If I delete the sound file, or move the .odp to
another system where the sound file does not exist then the sound stops
working. I want to distribute the sound when I distribute the .odp.

On the other hand if I add sound using 'Insert/Object/Sound' then
the sound does not play at all. open suse 10.3.


Question is there any way to get 'Insert/Object/Sound' to work?
Are there any Linux distros where 'Insert/Object/Sound' works
out of the box?

The way 'Insert/Object/Sound' is supposed to work, is the sound
supposed to be included in the .odp or is it a link again?



Also with either of the above two methods, if I export to .swf
or to .html there is no exported sound. The exported Sound does
not appear in the .html files and the .swf file is silent when played
with firefox.

Are there any Linux distro in which this is not the case?

What is the state of Sound in Linux Impress?


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[users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread NoOp
On 04/15/2008 01:57 PM, Rodney D. Myers wrote:

 
 Not so here, using Apple Mail.
 
 I'm checking the online spam filters, to see if they are catching  
 them, and looking into the local SPAM folder, and they are not there  
 either.
 
 That's what's frustrating.
 
 Brad Rogers, in the UK can send an unsubscribe email, and I get the OO  
 response. Yet when I reply to the response, it gets lost.
 
  From this email address, and the want I want to subscribe to.
 

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Re: [users] [moderated]Question

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 15/04/2008 19:35, tom cochran wrote:

Hi I have a list of books read over the years that somehow has a wdb extention

TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE I have never had Works. Will Openoffice allow this to be imported into something like excel 

The information has about 4 columns of varing width (author, title, date , brief description. 


I have downloaded your program and hope it will solve some of my various 
problems

Tom Cochran
  
Hmmm. If you've really never used Works, how did you create the .wdb 
files you have? If you have Works, you can use it to save the data in 
dBase format and then use OpenOffice Base to access it. Below is a quote 
from Brian Barker (hope you don't mind, Brian) on the same subject:

 begin quote ===
Go back to your copy of Microsoft Works, open the databases in that, and 
save copies in dBase (*.dbf) format.  (Works will do this.)  Then create 
a new Base database, in the first panel of the Database Wizard select 
Connect to an existing database, scroll down to dBASE, and browse to 
your database copy.  Your new Base database will be able to access the 
data from your old database.


Alternatively, save the data from Works as Text  Commas (*.csv).  You 
can then either connect to this document from Base or else open the .csv 
file in Calc and then copy and paste the data into the Tables panel of 
Base, creating a new table in the process.

=== end quote ===

If the files really were not created by Works then either just download 
and install OpenOffice (it's free) and try, or upload one of the files 
to a web site somewhere and provide us with a link. If you don't have a 
convenient web site you can use www.mytempdir.com. It's free. No, I am 
not affiliated with it in any way.


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[users] Re: Trouble with Outlook Express since downloading OOo2.4

2008-04-16 Thread NoOp
On 04/16/2008 06:14 AM, Twayne wrote:
 I down loaded OOo2.4 and 2.4 is now the default to open saved email.
 I've tried to have Outlook Express as the default but when I click on
 the icon it just opens the program not the saved email.  I have the
 XP operating system.
 Any ideas what is going on?  I'm an old guy trying my best on the
 computer.
 Thanks,
 Bud
 
 I don't know why OOo is opening your saved emails unless you've set it 
 to do so and I don't even know if that's possible.  Or; Are you saying 
 that clicking on the OE icon opens OOo?  It sounds like either a file 
 association has been changed or the link for a shortcut has been 
 damaged.  Neither should have been a result of installing OOo but 
 strange things to happen now and then.
 
 Try explaining the problem again but replace the words it and the 
 program with specific names, etc., so it's a lot clearer what you mean. 
 It's probably a simple fix.


default to open *saved* email.

I'm not familiar with OE, but doesn't it save emails as .eml or some
such extension? Perhaps the extension somehow is now associated with OOo?


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Re: [users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 16/04/2008 22:09, NoOp wrote:

On 04/15/2008 01:57 PM, Rodney D. Myers wrote:

  

Not so here, using Apple Mail.

I'm checking the online spam filters, to see if they are catching  
them, and looking into the local SPAM folder, and they are not there  
either.


That's what's frustrating.

Brad Rogers, in the UK can send an unsubscribe email, and I get the OO  
response. Yet when I reply to the response, it gets lost.


 From this email address, and the want I want to subscribe to.




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[users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread NoOp
On 04/16/2008 02:22 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
 On 16/04/2008 22:09, NoOp wrote:


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 Perhaps [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a last resort?


   
 I know the web site says webmasters (plural) but the convention/rule 
 is that site managers are supposed to look at mail to webmaster 
 (singular).
 
 

Not unless it's changed since January 2007:
http://website.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=devmsgNo=8168

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[users] Re: periods in column headings in calc and mail merge

2008-04-16 Thread H.S.

NoOp wrote:



Interesting... For this next test I didn't use mailmerge, but instead
just created a new label document (File|New|Labels) and found that if I
use Zip the zip field appears properly. However, if I use P.C., I
end up with an empty  field.

Probably worth filing a bug (the honor goes to he/she that posted first
:-) as I can't seem to find a related one already filed (so far).



Done.
-HS


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[users] Re: periods in column headings in calc and mail merge

2008-04-16 Thread H.S.

NoOp wrote:

On 04/15/2008 05:05 PM, H.S. wrote:

NoOp wrote:



What sort of wierd problems? It's also helpful if you let us know what
version of OOo  Operating System...
I was printing labels using the data. Initially, all the labels turned 
out to be the same. If I created the labels by using only the fields 
which had no period in them, then the data came out okay.


Interesting... For this next test I didn't use mailmerge, but instead
just created a new label document (File|New|Labels) and found that if I
use Zip the zip field appears properly. However, if I use P.C., I
end up with an empty  field.

Probably worth filing a bug (the honor goes to he/she that posted first
:-) as I can't seem to find a related one already filed (so far).



BTW, it is issue #88365. Perhaps you can confirm it there.

thanks,
-HS



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[users] OOo needs an email client, Pegasus needs a sponsor and a text editing component

2008-04-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
Many people ask for an email client from OpenOffice.org, and these
people have either never heard of Thunderbird or have rejected it for
some reason. Thus, I suggest a different email client for OOo. See
this OOo bug:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88366

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


[users] Re: WriterTools - do they work? are they worth the effort?

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:19:45 -0400, William Case
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi;

Just saw a reference to WriterTools for the first time in one of today's
threads.  http://nothickmanuals.info/doku.php/writertools 

I visited the site and liked some of the tools advertised, especially
the foreign phrase translation.  I suspect it is just a link to a
translation site.  That's OK - but does it work?

For example, will it translate Latin phrases?

Are the other tools well integrated into OOo?

Is it worth the download and installing trouble, or am I just getting
toys?

Any quick comments or recommendations gratefully received.

I started it, my motivation to install were not dissimilar to those
you've expressed.  It's OK now I got through the install, which was a
bit tricky; now I've done it once I'm bound to forget, consequence of
the passing years.  I also wanted to get a feel for whats involved in
writing an OOo extension.

First impressions - well its not The Chicago Manual of Style, nor
disappointingly does it appear to have any links thereto.  It's  a bit
intrusive in that it inserts Writers Tools  into the top level menu,
would have preferred a sub menu off Tools or a tool bar, but maybe its
configurable.

I might post review on my blog, I'll try to remember post a link here
if I do.

cheers UT



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[users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:27:24 +1000
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Hello Urbane,

 When one unsubscribes one needs to ensure that the unsubscribe email
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The process can be *initiated* from any address, by using a to address
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Re: [users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread Rodney D. Myers

On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:09 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 04/15/2008 01:57 PM, Rodney D. Myers wrote:



Not so here, using Apple Mail.

I'm checking the online spam filters, to see if they are catching
them, and looking into the local SPAM folder, and they are not there
either.

That's what's frustrating.

Brad Rogers, in the UK can send an unsubscribe email, and I get the  
OO

response. Yet when I reply to the response, it gets lost.

From this email address, and the want I want to subscribe to.



http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html
quote
By far the most common mailing list problem is attempting to  
unsubscribe

from an address that is not subscribed. If you need to unsubscribe a
specific address, say [EMAIL PROTECTED], send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If none of this helps, and you still have questions, please contact  
us.

/quote

So, even though you are subscribed, if I'm reading that correctly you
might try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

And see if that works.

Otherwise send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if the
list owner can help:

The please contact us link in the above page goes to:
http://www.openoffice.org/contact.html

About the only thing on the http://www.openoffice.org/contact.html  
page

that seems as if it might be of help is:

Send webmaster mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Perhaps [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a last resort?


Been there, done that.

For some reason, my emails never generate anything.

In another thread, Brad R. was able to unsubscribe me, but when I  
replied to that email, nothing ever happened.


I will send an email to the above address though.

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Re: [users] Re: Unsubscribing Info

2008-04-16 Thread Harold Fuchs

On 16/04/2008 22:34, NoOp wrote:

On 04/16/2008 02:22 PM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
  

On 16/04/2008 22:09, NoOp wrote:



  

Send webmaster mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Perhaps [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a last resort?


  
  
I know the web site says webmasters (plural) but the convention/rule 
is that site managers are supposed to look at mail to webmaster 
(singular).






Not unless it's changed since January 2007:
http://website.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=devmsgNo=8168

  

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[snip]
Date: 2 Jan  2007 7:55:40 AM EST (CA)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [webmasters] OpenOffice website
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  


And check out here:

SMTP session

[Resolving cylon1.sjc.collab.net...]
[Resolving cylon1.sjc.collab.net...]
[Contacting cylon1.sjc.collab.net [204.16.104.10]...]
[Connected]
220 cylon1.sjc.collab.net ESMTP
EHLO hexillion.com
250-cylon1.sjc.collab.net
250-8BITMIME
250 SIZE 31457280
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 sender [EMAIL PROTECTED] ok
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED] ok
RSET
250 reset
QUIT
221 cylon1.sjc.collab.net
[Connection closed]

  


I sit corrected.

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[users] Re: periods in column headings in calc and mail merge

2008-04-16 Thread NoOp
On 04/16/2008 02:46 PM, H.S. wrote:
 NoOp wrote:

 
 Probably worth filing a bug (the honor goes to he/she that posted first
 :-) as I can't seem to find a related one already filed (so far).
 
 
 BTW, it is issue #88365. Perhaps you can confirm it there.
 

Done:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88365


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[users] Re: Forced to install MS office so boss can sync phone, any alternative?

2008-04-16 Thread Urbane Tiger
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:36:03 -0400, James Knott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Urbane Tiger wrote:
 Unfortunately, many consider Outlook to be the only email app.  However, 
 depending on where the calendar is located, you may be able to use 
 Thunderbird  Lightning, both of which can be found at www.mozilla.org.  
 I sync my Nokia N800  Thunderbird with Google Calendar.
 

 cool - has Google lost your Calendar yet like it loses folks mail.

   

Not that I've noticed.  Then again, it's easy enough to lose email and 
calendars in Outlook too.

The same goes for T'bird, Eudora, IncrediMail etc.  The difference is
that in any one instance of losing mail or calendars, only one person
is impacted, not everyone!  

Love 'em or hate 'em - I can't recall MS Hotmail losing significant
amounts of data.

I'm fed up with Google, it tries to second guess the motivation for my
searches, it's invariably wrong and delivers the wrong stuff first.
Like enter a manufacturer's name and the 1st page and a half are
shopping sites, rather than the manufacturer themselves.  Not
everyone's a shopaholic, personally I'm a shopaphobic.


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[users] Re: OOo needs an email client, Pegasus needs a sponsor and a text editing component

2008-04-16 Thread NoOp
On 04/16/2008 03:09 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 Many people ask for an email client from OpenOffice.org, and these
 people have either never heard of Thunderbird or have rejected it for
 some reason. Thus, I suggest a different email client for OOo. See
 this OOo bug:
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88366

And how long do you figure that it would take David Harris to port to
Linux  Mac OS X?  That is of course once the proprietary third-party
core editor issue is resolved...

Thunderbird currently supports Windows, Linux  Mac OS X, is opensource
(with Mozilla restrictions that are already acknowledged and used in OOo
- see the OOo THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html), and localised for many
languages:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

Further, Thunderbird already has several million users, a vast support
network, and a considerable amount of add-in's/extensions (to include
Calendar/PIM).

Sorry, but I'd not vote for 88366.



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[users] Re: periods in column headings in calc and mail merge

2008-04-16 Thread H.S.

NoOp wrote:

On 04/16/2008 02:46 PM, H.S. wrote:

NoOp wrote:



Probably worth filing a bug (the honor goes to he/she that posted first
:-) as I can't seem to find a related one already filed (so far).


BTW, it is issue #88365. Perhaps you can confirm it there.



Done:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88365


Thanks.


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[users] Re: OOo needs an email client, Pegasus needs a sponsor and a text editing component

2008-04-16 Thread Bob Estes



NoOp wrote:

On 04/16/2008 03:09 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

Many people ask for an email client from OpenOffice.org, and these
people have either never heard of Thunderbird or have rejected it for
some reason. Thus, I suggest a different email client for OOo. See
this OOo bug:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88366


And how long do you figure that it would take David Harris to port to
Linux  Mac OS X?  That is of course once the proprietary third-party
core editor issue is resolved...

Thunderbird currently supports Windows, Linux  Mac OS X, is opensource
(with Mozilla restrictions that are already acknowledged and used in OOo
- see the OOo THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html), and localised for many
languages:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

Further, Thunderbird already has several million users, a vast support
network, and a considerable amount of add-in's/extensions (to include
Calendar/PIM).

Sorry, but I'd not vote for 88366.


Neither would I.


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Re: [users] Re: Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-16 Thread Barbara Duprey
Thanks, Niall. Yes, it does, and I think we may be getting closer here. 
If you click *below* the table you're working with (I generally add an 
empty paragraph before my paste point), rather than inside the table, 
then do the Paste Special for formatted text, you should get an 
independent table that looks pretty much like what you had in Calc. If 
you want to append the data from that copy to your existing, nicely 
formatted table, just add an empty row at the bottom of the formatted 
one. Then click somewhere in the copied table, Table  Select  Table, 
and Ctrl-C. Now you have all your spreadsheet data in a good form for 
normal pasting. Click in the first cell (or whichever one is to be the 
top left of the appended data) of the empty new row of the formatted 
table, then Ctrl-V. Your data should populate the formatted table in the 
appropriate columns, adding all the rows it needs. Now you can delete 
the copied temporary table.


That should do it, I hope, though you may have to do a little more to 
get the copied data to match the existing table's format. I do a very 
similar thing getting data from Base tables and queries into Writer 
tables. Unfortunately, the clipboard formats for Writer, Calc, and Base 
seem to be incompatible without the intermediate step.


(By the way, let's keep all this on the list so others can help, too.)

Niall Martin wrote:
Thanks for your message..  Initially I created my table, then did 
paste special on to it.  No go.  I then explored the  other options.  
DDE seemed to give  the wrong answer.  Paste special taking the 
formatted text option put everything in a single column of the table, 
instead of distributing the items in the appropriate columns. What 
succeeded was paste  special, taking the unformatted text option, 
highlighting the pasted text, followed by table/convert to table.  It 
does seem a roundabout way of doing things, particularly if having set 
up the table you then want to add more data to it.  I hope this 
clarifies the process.




On 16 Apr 2008 at 14:20, Barbara Duprey wrote:

Date sent:  Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:20:01 -0500
From:Barbara Duprey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: users@openoffice.org, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:   * *Re: [users]  Re: Spreadsheet to 
word processor table*


R N D Martin wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Barker) wrote:

  
 *From:* Brian Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 *To:* users@openoffice.org
 *Date:* Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:55:54 +0100

 At 15:26 14/04/2008 +0100, Niall Martin wrote:

 In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using copy and
  
 paste to batch paste direct to the cells in the table, but in OO I

 seem to have to paste special into the document as text, and then
 turn what I have pasted into a table.  I find this rather long
 winded and awkward. Have I missed something?

 Possibly.  I think that, in Writer, this is even easier than you
 hope.  Don't create any table first.  Instead, copy the cells from
 your spreadsheet and then use Edit | Paste Special... (or
 Ctrl+Shift+V), selecting DDE link from the options.  This creates
 a table with your imported values, which you can then format as you
 require.

 Note that this technique actually creates a link to the source
 spreadsheet instead of a copy - so the spreadsheet file must
 continue to be available and any subsequent change to it will be
 reflected in your Writer document.  If this is not what you need,
 after you have pasted the link, go to Edit | Links..., select the
 relevant link in the list, and press Break Link.  You will now have
 an independent text document.

 I trust this helps.

 Brian Barker


 I did experiment briefly with the DDE option, but abandoned it at

 once, since it did not seem to be doing  what I wanted.  Your second
 paragraph I regard as  a workaround which I will  try some time, but
 still regard as rather clumsy.  Thanks for your  comment.

 Niall Martin
Niall, have you done the Paste Special as formatted test? That seems
to preserve more of the formatting than the DDE link, whether later
broken or not. You should end up with a table immediately after doing
the Paste Special that comes pretty close to what you had in Calc.
When you say turn what I have pasted into a table what kind of steps
are you going through? Maybe we can help with that part.

Niall Martin
Phone 0131 4678468
Please reply to: niallatrndmartin.cix.co.uk
 



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[users] Re: OOo needs an email client, Pegasus needs a sponsor and a text editing component

2008-04-16 Thread John Thompson
On 2008-04-16, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Many people ask for an email client from OpenOffice.org, and these
 people have either never heard of Thunderbird or have rejected it for
 some reason. Thus, I suggest a different email client for OOo. See
 this OOo bug:
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=88366

Getting Pegasus open source compatible and cross-plaform sounds like a 
lot more work than using Thunderbird, which is already open source and 
cross platform. 

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Re: [users] Re: OOo needs an email client, Pegasus needs a sponsor and a text editing component

2008-04-16 Thread Fred A. Miller

Bob Estes wrote:

[snip]


Further, Thunderbird already has several million users, a vast support
network, and a considerable amount of add-in's/extensions (to include
Calendar/PIM).

Sorry, but I'd not vote for 88366.


Neither would I.


Nope.would be TOTAL ignorance.

Fred

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A: they both have sawdust for brains but one is smart enough to
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