RE: In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Brian
Hi Mark,

I applied your advice. I added a directive to my error page, so it wont
create a session variable, and therefore won't try to create a session if it
does exist (%@ page session=false%).
Well, IT WORKED! I got rid of the java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot
create a session after the response has been committed exception, which I
have seen in my log for months or maybe years!

Now the previous thing that went wrong is able to show its details in the
log. What is that? A Struts tag that tries to output the content of a bean
that is not present even though it should (this is the Struts tag:
bean:write name=TEXT-NoteNoShippingFees/).
That bean should always be present, because it is created in the previous
Struts action. How can it be missing SOMETIMES, if it is not the only bean
that is being created in the previous action, and others of these beans that
are created in the action are present in the page? I guess it has something
to do with the buffer that gets full sometimes, or am I wrong? What do you
think?

In fact, I have had LOTs of problems with beans that dissappear even
though they should be present because they were created in the previous
actions. I have been dealing with these randomic problem for YEARS, and I
applied just a patch for that (If the bean is not present, redirect to the
home page instead of showing an error message and dumping a trace in the
log).  That was just a workaround, and not a clean solution. I will try now
to use a buffer with 16K, to see if that will solve this.

Brian


   

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
 Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 02:51 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession,
 java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the
response
 has been committed
 
 On 23/09/2010 12:01, Brian wrote:
  Thanks for the commited explanation, but I still have a doubt: Where
  in my code do I commit? I don't do it explicitly, so it is happening
  at some point automatically but I don't know exactly where/when. If a
  full buffer is not the cause, what is it for the commit to happen? In
  which method/class does it happen?
 
 As soon as the buffer is full or you flush the response.
 
  I will raise the 8K capacity in the buffer, just in case that is the
  problem. That would explain why this problem appears to be randomic.
  If just some pages are too big, that would make the buffer to be full,
  and then everything in the sequence you described would happen.
 
  I don't explicitly disable the session creation in my JSPs, so that is
  not the problem. I don't call any flushing method either.
 
 You need to explicitly disable session generation in your error JSP.
 That will ensure the sequence never happens.
 
  It is clear that something goes wrong in my ProductsForModel.jps
  page (actually, in the java code generated for it), so an Exception is
  being thrown and  PageContextImpl.handlePageException() takes care
  of it. But what exception? Is it the 
  java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the
response
 has been committed? Or is it another one?
 
 Yep, the broken error JSP is hiding the exception. Another option is to
remove
 the error handling JSPs.
 
 Mark
 
 
 
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RE: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Brian
At least someone thinks the same way I do!

 

 

 

From: m.h.g.emme...@dnb.nl [mailto:m.h.g.emme...@dnb.nl] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:48 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

 

I agree. A forum would be more practical. 
It is much easier reading all postings on a topic.
I find myself clearing my tomcat users list inbox every morning, while on
forums I visit I check out the new or updated topics.
The forums these days let you subscribe to topics or complete forums and
send you a notification when a new topic gets started or updated.


regards, Milko





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Re: In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread André Warnier

Brian wrote:
...


In fact, I have had LOTs of problems with beans that dissappear 


that's usually a problem associated with age.  I was going to ask, but

I have been dealing with these randomic problem for YEARS, 


you've answered that yourself.

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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Mikolaj Rydzewski
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:48:09 +0200, m.h.g.emme...@dnb.nl wrote:
 I agree. A forum would be more practical.
 It is much easier reading all postings on a topic.
 I find myself clearing my tomcat users list inbox every morning, while
on
 forums I visit I check out the new or updated topics.
 The forums these days let you subscribe to topics or complete forums and
 send you a notification when a new topic gets started or updated.

Use gmail to read list. You'll have a 'forum'.

I do really hope we won't switch to web-based-something.

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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Wesley Acheson
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Mikolaj Rydzewski m...@ceti.pl wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:48:09 +0200, m.h.g.emme...@dnb.nl wrote:
 I agree. A forum would be more practical.
 It is much easier reading all postings on a topic.
 I find myself clearing my tomcat users list inbox every morning, while
 on
 forums I visit I check out the new or updated topics.
 The forums these days let you subscribe to topics or complete forums and
 send you a notification when a new topic gets started or updated.

 Use gmail to read list. You'll have a 'forum'.

 I do really hope we won't switch to web-based-something.

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I noticed something. I've been subscribed to this ML for a long time,
never participated much. I'm using gmail for the list and filter the
messages into their own label and archive them.

Recently I became involved in a discussion because it had a direct
reflection on my experience in work. I ended up doing a simplistic
patch which hasn't been accepted yet, however since that point I also
had to join the dev mailing list. Since I had to check both ML's I've
been doing it regularly, though it may just be a fad with me.

The point is once your involved in something, doing more than just
looking for answers a Mailing list is much better, it involves you
much more directly. I don't have to check 10 sites for my 10
subscribed mailing lists. The emails are just there all filtered into
their own labels (folders). So its probably better for a open source
project to use a mailing list.

The dev list has other special functions you just wouldn't see working
with a forum, such as having the commit logs mailed, and the bugs
mailed. This doesn't work well with forums as you'd either have one
massive topic or spam with several little topics.

Having said all that though I woudn't attempt to read these lists with
outlook/outlook express or thunderbird. That just wouldn't work for
me.

So forums better for finding answers. Mailing lists better for participating.

Wes

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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
 m.h.g.emme...@dnb.nl :
I agree. A forum would be more practical.

Please argue.
I dont find how a PHPBB-like will be more practical.
But you will probably tech me :-)

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Re: Tomcat not listening on specified port

2010-09-24 Thread Ognjen Blagojevic

On 24.9.2010 7:37, Garg, Saman wrote:

We are using tomcat-6.0.24 with jdk1.6.0.17 on RHEL 3 OS. We have a
wrapper script which sets few variables and then call tomcat.start to
start up the instance. In the tomcat log, I do see
org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init not getting loaded on the
start of tomcat.


You might post your logs here, as well as both server.xml files, with 
sensitive data removed.


If you are running multiple instances check if all configuration ports 
are different. Aside from HTTP port, there are others that should be 
different like HTTPS, AJP and shutdown port (default is 8005).


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Tomcat performance tuning

2010-09-24 Thread rujin raj
Support,


I Installed tomcat 5.5.20 version in my Windows 2008 server and the java
version is Java 1.6.0.b105.We are using  2 Mbps Bandwidth Leased line.In
tomcat we hosted around 5(five) application.When the no of seesion increases
more than 1600 session the total application is slow and not able to open
the application sometime.

1) How can I tune this application in server side for better performance in
tomcat side as well as java?
2) I noticed that the current thread busy count is less but the number
session is more.What might be the problem?
3)More over for a IP more sessions are opened(noticed via Lambda probe).Is
there any problem in that?
4)What is mean by serilizable? For my application it is showing as No
5)What is mean by a)Max Threads b)Min and Max spare threads c)current thread
count and current thread busy?

Please help me


Regards
Rujinraj.
System Administrator


Re: Tomcat performance tuning

2010-09-24 Thread Ognjen Blagojevic

Rujin,


I Installed tomcat 5.5.20 version in my Windows 2008 server and the java
version is Java 1.6.0.b105.We are using  2 Mbps Bandwidth Leased line.In
tomcat we hosted around 5(five) application.When the no of seesion increases
more than 1600 session the total application is slow and not able to open
the application sometime.


In order to solve your problem, you must first determine what is the 
bottleneck of your system. Is it a) network, b) RAM, c) CPU, or d) hard 
disk? Use appropriate tools to figure that out first.


I must notice that 1600 sessions is quite a large number for 2mbps link. 
Do you invalidate sessions and do you have a session timeout setting?


Some frameworks, like JSF implementations, might introduce extensive 
session creation if not used properly. Please explain when is your 
session created and when is destroyed.




1) How can I tune this application in server side for better performance in
tomcat side as well as java?


That depends on the reason for slow down. Most of the time it is not JVM 
or Tomcat's fault, but faulty webapp.


For start, I would recommend to analyze JVM memory consumption, memory 
dump, session content, and to tweak with -Xmx and -Xms parameters, if 
you didn't already do that.


Also watch for garbage collection, how often it happens and when.



2) I noticed that the current thread busy count is less but the number
session is more.What might be the problem?


Those two are not directly related. Active busy thread count is related 
to the number of *simultaneous* requests, while active sessions might 
not issue requests at all (just waiting to be invalidated upon timeout).




3)More over for a IP more sessions are opened(noticed via Lambda probe).Is
there any problem in that?


Sorry, I don't understand this question.



4)What is mean by serilizable? For my application it is showing as No


That means that Tomcat will be able to persist your sessions to hard 
disk in case of shutdown, and to reload them upon start up. Which means 
that if your sessions are serializable, you will be able to keep them 
across Tomcat restarts, while if they are not, they will be lost.




5)What is mean by a)Max Threads b)Min and Max spare threads c)current thread
count and current thread busy?


a. Maximum number of threads Tomcat will create to answer your clients 
request. That should be over of predicted maximum number of simultaneous 
requests (not sessions!).


b. Minimum and maximum of threads that are currently not answering any 
requests. Minimum will ensure that there is available thread when new 
request comes, and maximum will ensure that JVM does not keep too many 
threads doing nothing and eating up resources.


c1. Current number of active threads processing requests, or waiting to 
process requests.


c2. Current number of active threads processing requests.


They relate like this:

thread_busy = thread_busy + spare_min = thread_active = thread_busy + 
spare_max = max_threads



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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread David kerber

On 9/24/2010 4:06 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote:

...


The point is once your involved in something, doing more than just
looking for answers a Mailing list is much better, it involves you
much more directly. I don't have to check 10 sites for my 10
subscribed mailing lists. The emails are just there all filtered into
their own labels (folders). So its probably better for a open source
project to use a mailing list.


+1.  I actually prefer NNTP groups, but mailing lists are a close 
second.  As soon as you need to follow more than one group, e-mail is 
much more efficient than a web-based forum.




The dev list has other special functions you just wouldn't see working
with a forum, such as having the commit logs mailed, and the bugs
mailed. This doesn't work well with forums as you'd either have one
massive topic or spam with several little topics.

Having said all that though I woudn't attempt to read these lists with
outlook/outlook express or thunderbird. That just wouldn't work for
me.


T-bird works fine once you set filters to organize the e-mails.

D

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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread David Smith
 But I'm too lazy to go fishing for questions I could answer ... I like
them showing up in my inbox.  If there in a web forum I'm not going to
go looking for them.  When I'm looking for an answer to one of my
questions, google is my first stop and the tomcat list is archived online.

--David

On 9/24/2010 3:01 AM, Brian wrote:
 At least someone thinks the same way I do!

  

  

  

 From: m.h.g.emme...@dnb.nl [mailto:m.h.g.emme...@dnb.nl] 
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 12:48 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

  

 I agree. A forum would be more practical. 
 It is much easier reading all postings on a topic.
 I find myself clearing my tomcat users list inbox every morning, while on
 forums I visit I check out the new or updated topics.
 The forums these days let you subscribe to topics or complete forums and
 send you a notification when a new topic gets started or updated.


 regards, Milko





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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread michel
Sorry, but I don't get why people can't delete emails on topics they aren't 
interested in; do some people here feel the need to read all the spam they 
get?




Michel




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To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?



On 9/24/2010 4:06 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote:

...


The point is once your involved in something, doing more than just
looking for answers a Mailing list is much better, it involves you
much more directly. I don't have to check 10 sites for my 10
subscribed mailing lists. The emails are just there all filtered into
their own labels (folders). So its probably better for a open source
project to use a mailing list.


+1.  I actually prefer NNTP groups, but mailing lists are a close second. 
As soon as you need to follow more than one group, e-mail is much more 
efficient than a web-based forum.




The dev list has other special functions you just wouldn't see working
with a forum, such as having the commit logs mailed, and the bugs
mailed. This doesn't work well with forums as you'd either have one
massive topic or spam with several little topics.

Having said all that though I woudn't attempt to read these lists with
outlook/outlook express or thunderbird. That just wouldn't work for
me.


T-bird works fine once you set filters to organize the e-mails.

D

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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread David Smith
 Absolutely.  I have no problem parsing and deleting.

--David

On 9/24/2010 8:18 AM, michel wrote:
 Sorry, but I don't get why people can't delete emails on topics they aren't 
 interested in; do some people here feel the need to read all the spam they 
 get?



 Michel




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 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:00 AM
 Subject: Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?


 On 9/24/2010 4:06 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote:

 ...

 The point is once your involved in something, doing more than just
 looking for answers a Mailing list is much better, it involves you
 much more directly. I don't have to check 10 sites for my 10
 subscribed mailing lists. The emails are just there all filtered into
 their own labels (folders). So its probably better for a open source
 project to use a mailing list.
 +1.  I actually prefer NNTP groups, but mailing lists are a close second. 
 As soon as you need to follow more than one group, e-mail is much more 
 efficient than a web-based forum.

 The dev list has other special functions you just wouldn't see working
 with a forum, such as having the commit logs mailed, and the bugs
 mailed. This doesn't work well with forums as you'd either have one
 massive topic or spam with several little topics.

 Having said all that though I woudn't attempt to read these lists with
 outlook/outlook express or thunderbird. That just wouldn't work for
 me.
 T-bird works fine once you set filters to organize the e-mails.

 D

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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Pid
On 24/09/2010 01:19, Brian wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Just a thought: Why is this support taking place in an email list, instead
 aof a web based forum?

One might as well ask why mailing lists exist at all in the shiny new
world of Web 2.0.


The ASF practice is to use mailing lists to keep a public record of
support discussions and development decisions.

There are some websites which provide web access to these lists, e.g.
Markmail, Nabble.

Being solely web-based would be limitation rather than an enhancement.


p


(IMO PHPBB is a horrible, horrible application.)





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Re: Tomcat not listening on specified port

2010-09-24 Thread Pid
On 24/09/2010 09:37, Ognjen Blagojevic wrote:
 On 24.9.2010 7:37, Garg, Saman wrote:
 We are using tomcat-6.0.24 with jdk1.6.0.17 on RHEL 3 OS. We have a
 wrapper script which sets few variables and then call tomcat.start to
 start up the instance. In the tomcat log, I do see
 org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket init not getting loaded on the
 start of tomcat.
 
 You might post your logs here, as well as both server.xml files, with
 sensitive data removed.
 
 If you are running multiple instances check if all configuration ports
 are different. Aside from HTTP port, there are others that should be
 different like HTTPS, AJP and shutdown port (default is 8005).

... and post the wrapper script.


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Re: Tomcat 6.0.28 w/ VeriSign SSL TLS -- Errors upon startup.

2010-09-24 Thread Sean Killeen
Hi Mark,

I'm a little less familiar with the subjects at hand in your last response.

Is there a specific old bug that you're referring to? Should I be installing
6.0.29 instead of 6.0.28?

Also, where is the native DLL, and what should it be named for 6.0.28?
--
Sean


On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org wrote:

 On 23/09/2010 11:48, Sean Killeen wrote:
  Sorry for the additional reply but I found some additional information
 that
  might be relevant:
 
  We have a tomcat 6.0 installation that is referring to the same keystore
  with the same connector that starts up without error. However, the Tomcat
  6.0.28 instance starts up with error.
 
  I did a diff on the files with Notepad++ and they are pretty much exactly
  the same. I pasted my 6.0 connector to replace 6.0.28 default connectors
 in
  the server.xml file.
 
  Given this, any idea what my next steps might be?

 You might be hitting an old bug. Make sure the native dll is renamed as
 well.

 Mark



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RE: Tomcat 6.0.28 w/ VeriSign SSL TLS -- Errors upon startup.

2010-09-24 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Sean Killeen [mailto:seankill...@gmail.com] 
 Subject: Re: Tomcat 6.0.28 w/ VeriSign SSL  TLS -- Errors upon startup.

 Also, where is the native DLL, and what should it be 
 named for 6.0.28?

Rename bin/tcnative-1.dll to something that doesn't end in .dll.  That will 
insure APR does not get used.

 - Chuck


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Re: Tomcat 6.0.28 w/ VeriSign SSL TLS -- Errors upon startup.

2010-09-24 Thread Sean Killeen
@ Chuck / Mark,

I have renamed the tcnative-1.dll to tcnative-1.skdll, and have commented
out the AprLifecycleListener line.

And it works! :)

So, something to know is that despite Commenting out the
AprLifecycleListener line, it was still looking for the DLL, which had to be
renamed.

I think that probably solves my issue -- thanks for all the help and
support!

All the best,
Sean


On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Caldarale, Charles R 
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:

  From: Sean Killeen [mailto:seankill...@gmail.com]
  Subject: Re: Tomcat 6.0.28 w/ VeriSign SSL  TLS -- Errors upon startup.

  Also, where is the native DLL, and what should it be
  named for 6.0.28?

 Rename bin/tcnative-1.dll to something that doesn't end in .dll.  That will
 insure APR does not get used.

  - Chuck


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Re: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Brian,

On 9/24/2010 2:22 AM, Brian wrote:
 Well, IT WORKED!

Excellent.

 Now the previous thing that went wrong is able to show its details in the
 log. What is that? A Struts tag that tries to output the content of a bean
 that is not present even though it should (this is the Struts tag:
 bean:write name=TEXT-NoteNoShippingFees/).

How is the bean declared in the page? Or, is it declared in one page and
used in another?

 That bean should always be present, because it is created in the previous
 Struts action.

Where is it stored? Remember that there are 4 scopes (in increasing
order of specificity): application, session, request, and page. If your
page is looking in request scope, but the bean is in the session, it
won't be found. Or, alternatively, if you store a bean in the request
and issue a redirect, then the bean has likely been discarded.

 How can it be missing SOMETIMES, if it is not the only bean
 that is being created in the previous action, and others of these beans that
 are created in the action are present in the page? I guess it has something
 to do with the buffer that gets full sometimes, or am I wrong? What do you
 think?

You'll have to give us more details. Note that this is not a Struts
forum, though many of us (including myself) have Struts experience and
would be glad to help. Technically, you ought to start a new thread
since you're asking about a new subject (this helps people find answers
to their questions when searching the archives).

 In fact, I have had LOTs of problems with beans that dissappear even
 though they should be present because they were created in the previous
 actions. I have been dealing with these randomic problem for YEARS, and I
 applied just a patch for that (If the bean is not present, redirect to the
 home page instead of showing an error message and dumping a trace in the
 log).  That was just a workaround, and not a clean solution. I will try now
 to use a buffer with 16K, to see if that will solve this.

Could you also be experiencing session timeouts that aren't properly
handled? Does your application use any kind of authentication and
authorization? If not, you could easily be seeing visitors with expired
sessions accessing actions that expect the session to be in a certain state.

There are lots of ways to fix this kind of thing, but the remedies all
depend upon your requirements and application architecture.

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Re: How to reproduce tomcat security vulnerabilities

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Viola,

On 9/22/2010 11:29 PM, viola lu wrote:
 thanks. I tried it on tomcat 6.0.26, and 6.0.29, it worked for the second
 one, i can get correct response headers on tomcat 6.0.26 and tomcat 6.0.29:
 tomcat 6.0.26

What is the first one and the second one? The bugs you mentioned in
your first post? Remember, not everyone is thinking what you're
thinking: please be clear when posting.

 suse10sp268:~ # wget -S -O - --post-data='test send post'
 http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
 --07:21:33--  http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
= `-'
 Connecting to 9.125.1.248:8080... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
   HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized
   Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
   *WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=9.125.1.248:8080*

Good: this reproduces the bug.

 *tomcat 6.0.29:*
 suse10sp268:~ # wget -S -O - --post-data='test send post'
 http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
 --07:24:02--  http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
 = `-'
 Connecting to 9.125.1.248:8080... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
   HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized
   Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
   *WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=Authentication required*

...and this shows that the bug has been fixed: no IP and port.

  But for the first one, both got the same response: 200 OK as below:
 suse10sp268:~ # wget -S -O - --header='Transfer-Encoding:unsupported'
 --post-data='test send post'
 http://9.125.1.248:8080/SecurityTomcat/SecurityServlet
 --07:12:16--  http://9.125.1.248:8080/SecurityTomcat/SecurityServlet
= `-'
 Connecting to 9.125.1.248:8080... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
   HTTP/1.1 200 OK
   Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
   Content-Type: text/html
   Content-Length: 61
   Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:09:09 GMT
   Connection: keep-alive
 Length: 61 [text/html]
  0%
 [
 ] 0 --.--K/s unsupported
 application/x-www-form-urlencoded
 9.125.1.248
 100%[=]
 61--.--K/s
 
 07:12:16 (7.27 MB/s) - `-' saved [61/61]
 
 Seems no difference on tomcat 6.0.26 and tomcat 6.0.29, is there something
 wrong?

Maybe this is sensitive to other conditions as well.

On 9/24/2010 12:57 AM, viola lu wrote:
 After debug into tomcat source code, i found that if transfer-encode is set
 as 'buffered', tomcat 6.0.26 will report null pointer exception in buffered
 filter recycle, but in tomcat 6.0.29 , directly report 501 error. But not
 sure attackers how to obtain sensitive information via a crafted header?

When buffers are not recycled properly, information /can/ leak across
requests. This means that, under the right conditions, an attacker
/might/ be able to exploit the server to disclose information.

Just because a vulnerability does not have an exploit doesn't mean it's
not a vulnerability: the possibility exists that information can be
disclosed. It's not absolutely necessary to be able to actually steal
information from a server to be considered a vulnerability.

This one might not be reproducible in any predictable way.

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Tomcat Logging Not Working Properly

2010-09-24 Thread Donald Winston

I can't get logging to work properly with tomcat(. The file handler prefix 
works but anything below INFO does not show up in the log! What could be wrong? 
I declare the logger in my classes like the following: 
private static Logger logger = 
Logger.getLogger(JessServletCommand.class.getName()); 

My logging.properties file is in my WEB-INF/classes directory. It is the 
following: 

handlers = org.apache.juli.FileHandler, java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler 

 
# Handler specific properties. 
# Describes specific configuration info for Handlers. 
 

org.apache.juli.FileHandler.level = FINE 
org.apache.juli.FileHandler.directory = ${catalina.base}/logs 
org.apache.juli.FileHandler.prefix = test. 

java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.level = FINE 
java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.formatter = java.util.logging.SimpleFormatter 




RE: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Jeffrey Janner
 -Original Message-
 From: Hassan Schroeder [mailto:hassan.schroe...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:40 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?
 
 On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com
wrote:
  But what if you just want to receive responses to your question,
 instead of
  receiving all the emails that is being writen?
 
 Or to put it another way -- what if you only want to be a taker,
 without
 any intention of participating in a community of users and giving back
 when you can?
 
 I'm sure there's a name for that.

Vampires?

 
  Mail lists are an old method. Web based forums are more efficient.
 And even
  forums (such are the ones powered by phpBB) are not the latest
 solution.
 
 What *is* the latest solution*, then, in your opinion?
 
 --
 Hassan Schroeder  hassan.schroe...@gmail.com
 twitter: @hassan
 
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Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Jason,

On 9/23/2010 4:26 PM, Jason Pringle wrote:
 I started by researching available connection pools for tomcat, and
 it seems most folks either use DBCP (which has a host of issues)

What issues are you thinking of, specifically. These?
http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/jdbc-pool.html

Of those 10 objections, only 4 of them are actual objections. #5 No
releases in a while is not a valid complaint, and the remainder are
actually talking about what the new CP has to offer, not judgments
against DBCP.

What the heck is a static interface, by the way?

Note that Tomcat's default connection pool is based upon DBCP.

 or
 C3PO (which has its own issues, including that it is LGPL licensed).

The biggest problem with C3P0 is that it's unsupported (I heard... I
can't find anywhere that it says the project is actually dead, but it's
been over 3 years since their last release, and it's clearly labeled
beta). It looks like they might be thinking about another point release.

What's wrong with LGPL? I'm not trying to start a holy war... just
curious about your objections.

 The feature page of the tomcat connection pool
 (http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/jdbc-pool.html) seems
 quite promising, but to be honest, it concerns me that the module is
 only readily available from a commiter's pages or from source.

That is a shame.

 3)  Is it considered released or still in a beta stage (I found
 the beta announcement from 2008)?

Don't be fooled by the 1.0.8.5 version number: the fact that it's
greater than 1 or doesn't have beta or alpha or pre in it's name
has no bearing on its stability or quality. At least, that appears to be
how the Tomcat team versions things.

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Re: Errors not logging to catalina.out after redeploy

2010-09-24 Thread Roy McMorran

 Hi Chuck, thanks for your reply.

On 9/24/10 12:14 AM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: Roy McMorran [mailto:mcmor...@mdibl.org]
Subject: Errors not logging to catalina.out after redeploy
Ordinarily if an exception occurs this will be logged to catalina.out.
When Tomcat is first started (we use jsvc) this is the case as
expected.  However if the webapp is redeployed (without a restart of
Tomcat) errors are no longer logged to catalina.out. Restarting will
return it to the normal behavior (until the next redeploy).

What kind of errors are you referring to?


For instance the stack trace from a null pointer exception (this is a 
development box).  See below for a better description of the behavior.



Do they show up in any of the Tomcat logs?


No.

Do you have swallowOutput set for the webapp?


No.  Didn't when at 6.0.20 either.


Does the webapp have its own logging mechanism?


Yes, log4j, but these are messages that wouldn't ordinarily be logged by 
this mechanism, eg a NPE.



If so, is there some form of console handler configured for it?


No, no console handler.


Here is a more succinct description of the symptoms as described by the 
developer:


(1) Servlet contains the following code:

  System.out.println((1) to stdout);
  System.err.println((2) to stderr before NPE);
  String foo = null;
  System.out.println(foo.toUpperCase());  // Cause NPE
  System.err.println((3) to stderr after NPE);

(2) Deploy app to tomcat

(3) Re-start tomcat-jsvc

(4) Access servlet (unlimited times): catalina.out shows System.out 
message, first System.err message, and then the NPE stacktrace.


(5) Re-deploy app to servlet without restarting tomcat

(6) Access servlet: catalina.out shows shows System.out message, first 
System.err message, but NOT the NPE stacktrace (even though it is 
occurring).


(7) Re-start tomcat-jsvc

(8) Same behavior as #4.

The behavior at #6 is new since our upgrade from 6.0.20 to 6.0.29.

Thanks,
Roy

--
Roy McMorran
Systems Administrator
MDI Biological Laboratory
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Re: NioBlockingSelector consuming all CPU

2010-09-24 Thread Thiago Locatelli da Silva
Hi list. There is no way to find out what is going with tomcat and the 
CPU reaching 150%. I have been trying to identify the root cause of this 
issue. The problem is that with tomcat 6.0.16 the application works very 
well, but with tomcat 6.0.29 we get this problem. I updated the JVM from 
jdk 1.6.0_05 to jdk 1.6.0_21 and the problem remais. Once the CPU reach 
more that 100%, it never comes down unless we restart the container. I 
also tried with the APR connector, but the container didnt start up with 
this change so i rolledback to Http11NioProtocol (since we are using 
comet in our application).



 PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
30186 apache25   0  657m 291m 8112 S  150 14.5 200:47.69 java
3615 apache15   0 21216 7736 3424 S0  0.4   0:00.32 httpd
3618 apache15   0 22056 8548 3400 S0  0.4   0:00.42 httpd
25181 apache15   0 20820 7296 3384 S0  0.4   0:00.25 httpd
25394 apache15   0 19820 4256 1204 S0  0.2   0:00.00 httpd

I appreciate if there is anyone else who could give any idea, i ran out 
of tries that i could think of. I dont want to go back and use a 
previous version other than 6.0.29, but i think i will  have no choice.

Thanks
Thiago
*


*

Thiago Locatelli da Silva escreveu:
Hi Chuck, thanks for the reply. I am using CentOS linux with kernel 
version 2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.


I have changed the BIO Connector due to our application which makes 
use of the comet functionality. This has been a hard time since I need 
to make the application work with tomcat 6.0.29 and after some changes 
done on the release 6.0.19 the application stopped working.


- Thiago

Caldarale, Charles R escreveu:
From: Thiago Locatelli da Silva [mailto:thiago.si...@digitro.com.br] 
Subject: NioBlockingSelector consuming all CPU



 

I am running tomcat 6.0.29 with jdk 1.6.0_21 (under linux)



Which Linux vendor and version?  Others have reported this problem 
with a 2.4 kernel, with the problem going away under 2.6.


You could also try the normal BIO connector or APR to see if that 
makes a difference.


 - Chuck


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RE: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Jeffrey Janner
 -Original Message-
 From: Pid [mailto:p...@pidster.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 7:39 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?
 
 On 24/09/2010 01:19, Brian wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Just a thought: Why is this support taking place in an email list,
  instead aof a web based forum?
 
 One might as well ask why mailing lists exist at all in the shiny new
 world of Web 2.0.
 
 
 The ASF practice is to use mailing lists to keep a public record of
 support discussions and development decisions.
 
 There are some websites which provide web access to these lists, e.g.
 Markmail, Nabble.
 
 Being solely web-based would be limitation rather than an enhancement.
 

+1

 
 p
 
 
 (IMO PHPBB is a horrible, horrible application.)

Can't comment on that last bit.

Personally, I like the mailing list format for this project.  It's
really helped expand my understanding of Tomcat by reading topics that
normally I wouldn't have thought to go looking for.  I've had my eyes
opened on some issues that I normally would not have gone looking for on
a web-based forum. In turn, I've then educated my development team on
those issues and our product has improved because of it.

For usage, I use *shudder* Outlook, have a rule which dumps all properly
formatted list emails into a dedicated folder, which is sorted by
conversation, newest on top.  From that, I can delete whole threads
based on subjects that I can tell have no relevance for me at this
point.  I also clear out topics as I read them if they've been resolved,
or found I'm not interested.  If they later interest me enough to
contribute, I can go to MarkMail or Nabble and review the thread.  Works
great.

I do subscribe to some web-based forums, notably Linux Questions and
Installshield Community, but find I hardly ever use them, much less
contribute.  I comfortable enough with Linux that I don't have that many
Qs, and don't use IS enough during a year to need a lot of help, much
less consider myself knowledge-able enough to contribute answers.

This format seems nearly perfect for me for this group.

Jeff

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Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Jeff Hubbs

 On 9/24/10 10:24 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:


The biggest problem with C3P0 is that it's unsupported (I heard... I
can't find anywhere that it says the project is actually dead, but it's
been over 3 years since their last release, and it's clearly labeled
beta). It looks like they might be thinking about another point release.


Just jumping in here - given this and given my case of a legacy Java app 
that really needs a platform refresh in a bad way before app problems 
can be addressed, is a migration path away from c3p0 called for and if 
so, toward what?


- Jeff

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RE: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Brian
Hi Christoper,


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 08:44 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession,
 java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response
 has been committed
 
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 Hash: SHA1
 
 Brian,
 
 On 9/24/2010 2:22 AM, Brian wrote:
  Well, IT WORKED!
 
 Excellent.
 
  Now the previous thing that went wrong is able to show its details in
  the log. What is that? A Struts tag that tries to output the content
  of a bean that is not present even though it should (this is the Struts tag:
  bean:write name=TEXT-NoteNoShippingFees/).
 
 How is the bean declared in the page? Or, is it declared in one page and used
 in another?


The previous Struts actions places it in the session object.

 
  That bean should always be present, because it is created in the
  previous Struts action.
 
 Where is it stored? Remember that there are 4 scopes (in increasing order of
 specificity): application, session, request, and page. If your page is 
 looking in
 request scope, but the bean is in the session, it won't be found. Or,
 alternatively, if you store a bean in the request and issue a redirect, then 
 the
 bean has likely been discarded.


It is stored in the session, just because I wanted to avoid the problems that 
happen when you redirect. That means that the bean will consume memory while 
the session is alive (instead of just for the time the request or response is 
alive), but memory is not a big issue here.
That makes me think that the buffer full, then flushed is maybe the reason 
why the bean dissappears somehow.
I have increased the buffer from 8k to 64k, and I will keep an eye on the log 
to see if it still happens.

 
  How can it be missing SOMETIMES, if it is not the only bean that is
  being created in the previous action, and others of these beans that
  are created in the action are present in the page? I guess it has
  something to do with the buffer that gets full sometimes, or am I
  wrong? What do you think?
 
 You'll have to give us more details. Note that this is not a Struts forum,
 though many of us (including myself) have Struts experience and would be
 glad to help. Technically, you ought to start a new thread since you're asking
 about a new subject (this helps people find answers to their questions when
 searching the archives).


You are right. If the problem still exists, I will seach for a solution in 
another source dedicated to Struts. This is no more related to Tomcat directly.

 
  In fact, I have had LOTs of problems with beans that dissappear even
  though they should be present because they were created in the
  previous actions. I have been dealing with these randomic problem
  for YEARS, and I applied just a patch for that (If the bean is not
  present, redirect to the home page instead of showing an error message
  and dumping a trace in the log).  That was just a workaround, and not
  a clean solution. I will try now to use a buffer with 16K, to see if that 
  will
 solve this.
 
 Could you also be experiencing session timeouts that aren't properly
 handled? Does your application use any kind of authentication and
 authorization? If not, you could easily be seeing visitors with expired 
 sessions
 accessing actions that expect the session to be in a certain state.

The sessions expire if 2 hours have passed, and if that happens, the system 
forwards them to another page. 
I mean, in my programming I already considered what should happen if the 
session suddenly expired, and it should not arrive to this point.

Thanks!
 



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Re: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Wesley Acheson
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Christoper,


 The sessions expire if 2 hours have passed, and if that happens, the system 
 forwards them to another page.
 I mean, in my programming I already considered what should happen if the 
 session suddenly expired, and it should not arrive to this point.

 Thanks!


You can't be sure that's whats happening though. The browser can make
its own rules with session cookies. Unlikely but possible for the
cookies to be deleted sometimes. Some people may not accept session
cookies in the first place.

Are you encoding the urls for sessions too? Where's the bean being set
in an Interceptor, in a filter, on an earlier page in the session?  Is
it possible that you've missed a route to the pages which should
always have this bean?

Is it possible that people are directly navigating to the page that
throws the error (say via a bookmark, or got a cached search engine
result)?

My advise would be (assuming you have an access log enabled that
contains the session id). Look at the access log. Try to figure out
the route the person took through your site. How long between page
views? Was there some detail that they entered in the bean which was
unserialiasble etc.

I doubt anyone here can tell you the answer to your new problem, it
too dependant on your new environment, however hopefully we will point
you in a good direction to start looking. Also you can start a new
thread as Christopher put but mark it OT. (if you don't believe tomcat
is at fault).

Regards,

Wesley Acheson

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RE: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Brian
Hi Wesley,


 -Original Message-
 From: Wesley Acheson [mailto:wesley.ache...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 10:44 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession,
 java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the
response
 has been committed
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:
  Hi Christoper,
 
 
  The sessions expire if 2 hours have passed, and if that happens, the
system
 forwards them to another page.
  I mean, in my programming I already considered what should happen if the
 session suddenly expired, and it should not arrive to this point.
 
  Thanks!
 
 
 You can't be sure that's whats happening though. The browser can make its
 own rules with session cookies. Unlikely but possible for the cookies to
be
 deleted sometimes. Some people may not accept session cookies in the first
 place.


That is interesting. I think I need to study that subject...
Oh, regarding people not accepting cookies: Struts then mantains a
jsessionid in the URL.

 
 Are you encoding the urls for sessions too? Where's the bean being set in
an
 Interceptor, in a filter, on an earlier page in the session?  Is it
possible that
 you've missed a route to the pages which should always have this bean?


I use Struts. All my URLs are actions (.do). So for all of them, a java code
is executed, whish creates the bean and stores it in the session.

 
 Is it possible that people are directly navigating to the page that throws
the
 error (say via a bookmark, or got a cached search engine result)?

I already considered that in my programming, years ago. If they do, it doesn
matter. The actions still execute given that they access a .do and not a
.jsp, and the bean gets created immediately before, before the JSP is sent
to the response. And if other beans that should be present (because they
should have been created, if they followed a regular path of actions in my
site) are not present, the client is redirected to the home page. 
That certainly happens a lot, given that my site gets thousands of request
from the crawlers such as GoogleBot! And they do whatever they want,
certainly.
 

 My advise would be (assuming you have an access log enabled that contains
 the session id). Look at the access log. Try to figure out the route the
person
 took through your site. How long between page views? Was there some
 detail that they entered in the bean which was unserialiasble etc.


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Help with jasypt (Java Security). NoClassDefFoundError.

2010-09-24 Thread Steve Ryder

I am new to jasypt.  I have installed the commons libraries that came with
the jasypt download in Apache.../common/lib.
The class not being found is in one of the libraries.
Tomcat 5.0, Java 1.4 running on Windows.
Do I need to do something in addition to copying the jar files into
common/lib?
commons-codec-1.1.jar, commons-lang-2.1.jar, jasypt-1.6.jar from jasypt
dist.
icu4j-charsets-4_4_1_1.jar, icu4j-4_4_1_1.jar  from icu website.

Also, once I get past this error, will I need BOTH icu libraries.This
exception is on Windows
development machine.

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/commons/lang/exception/NestableRuntimeException
java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method)
java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:539)
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:123)
java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:251)
java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:55)
java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:194)
java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:187)
java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:289)
java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:235)
java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:302)
org.jasypt.util.text.BasicTextEncryptor.init(BasicTextEncryptor.java:67)
org.apache.jsp.jasyptExample_jsp._jspService(jasyptExample_jsp.java:83)
---this is mine...
org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(HttpJspBase.java:94)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServletWrapper.service(JspServletWrapper.java:324)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFile(JspServlet.java:292)
org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspServlet.java:236)
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:802)

Below is my  simple test servlet
page import=org.jasypt.util.text.*
String password = 2010-09-23 11:21;
String origText = 123456789abcdef,f6c;
BasicTextEncryptor textEncryptor = new
BasicTextEncryptor();textEncryptor.setPassword(password);
String quePaso = textEncryptor.encrypt(origText);
String plainText = textEncryptor.decrypt(quePaso);
out.println(password+/+origText+/+quePaso+/+plainText); 



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RE: Help with jasypt (Java Security). NoClassDefFoundError.

2010-09-24 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
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 Subject: Help with jasypt (Java Security). NoClassDefFoundError. 

 I am new to jasypt.

So are we; it's not part of Tomcat.

 Tomcat 5.0

Not supported.

 Java 1.4

Not supported.

Start again.

(Apologies to S Beckett.)

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Re: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Wesley,

On 9/24/2010 4:06 AM, Wesley Acheson wrote:
 Having said all that though I woudn't attempt to read these lists with
 outlook/outlook express or thunderbird. That just wouldn't work for
 me.

I use tb, and it works great for my needs. I can always see the threads
I'm participating in, and the latest messages show up at the bottom of
my folder (which is my preference... others prefer the top).

 So forums better for finding answers. Mailing lists better for participating.

I find that the ML archives are great, particularly the ones maintained
at markmail.org.

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Re: Help with jasypt (Java Security). NoClassDefFoundError.

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Steve,

On 9/24/2010 12:17 PM, Steve Ryder wrote:
 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
 org/apache/commons/lang/exception/NestableRuntimeException

This is likely to be due to your placement of libraries.

Aside from Chuck's comments (with which I completely agree: it's upgrade
time for you), I would suggest that you place /all/ libraries your web
application needs into the webapp's WEB-INF/lib directory, and not use
common/lib for any of that stuff.

Moving your libraries from the common to the webapp's lib directory is
likely to solve this problem for you.

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Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Jeff,

On 9/24/2010 11:14 AM, Jeff Hubbs wrote:
  On 9/24/10 10:24 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

 The biggest problem with C3P0 is that it's unsupported (I heard... I
 can't find anywhere that it says the project is actually dead, but it's
 been over 3 years since their last release, and it's clearly labeled
 beta). It looks like they might be thinking about another point
 release.


 Just jumping in here - given this and given my case of a legacy Java app
 that really needs a platform refresh in a bad way before app problems
 can be addressed, is a migration path away from c3p0 called for and if
 so, toward what?

That's tough to tell. See Mark's comments regarding DBCP, which are
positive in my view.

Also, the C3P0 folks had another semi-release back in April, so maybe
they're actually coming back. I would highly recommend talking to the
people on that team to see what their plans are.

I can see that their forum is full of complaints about deadlock, though
that may be due to misconfiguration or their applications' interference
with the library. I wouldn't be surprised to hear a lot of complaints
about DBCP deadlocking, too.

It's like buying a wireless router on Amazon: half the reviews for X say
best router I ever had, I switched away from Y which was a POS and
then you go look at the reviews for Y and they say the same thing with X
and Y reversed.

I would say that if things are working for you, there's no reason to
switch at all: it's not like a connection pool is a significant part of
your infrastructure (meaning that switching shouldn't be too traumatic
to your code).

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Re: [OT] Client to communicate to SSL WebServices on tomcat

2010-09-24 Thread aravidu

Yes, both client and firefox are on my local desktop.. 


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 On 9/23/2010 7:13 AM, aravidu wrote:
 Ok. Thanks. I fixed it and tested it again. Now it says this: 
 
 Caused by: java.net.SocketException: SocketException invoking
 https://host:8081/myapp/endpoint: Software caused connection abort:
 recv
 failed
 Caused by: java.net.SocketException: Software caused connection abort:
 recv
 failed
 
 Sounds like a firewall issue.
 
 I am sure the URL/endpoint is working because I am able to access the
 endpoint thru firefox. 
 
 Are both Firefox and your client running on the same machine?
 
 What URL works correctly in your web browser?
 
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Re: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Brian,

On 9/24/2010 11:29 AM, Brian wrote:
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 08:44 AM

 Where is it stored? Remember that there are 4 scopes (in increasing order of
 specificity): application, session, request, and page. If your page is 
 looking in
 request scope, but the bean is in the session, it won't be found. Or,
 alternatively, if you store a bean in the request and issue a redirect, then 
 the
 bean has likely been discarded.
 
 It is stored in the session, just because I wanted to avoid the 
 problems that happen when you redirect.

Are you sure that the user is hanging-on to the session? If the client
doesn't support cookies, are you properly issuing a redirect? (If you
use Struts's ActionForward with redirect=true in S1 or if you use a
result type=redirect in S2 then you should be okay).

 That makes me think that the buffer full, then flushed
 is maybe the reason why the bean dissappears somehow.

Very unlikely: the bean is put into the session far earlier than the
error occurs, and the session shouldn't be damaged by anything like what
you describe.

 Could you also be experiencing session timeouts that aren't properly
 handled? Does your application use any kind of authentication and
 authorization? If not, you could easily be seeing visitors with expired 
 sessions
 accessing actions that expect the session to be in a certain state.
 
 The sessions expire if 2 hours have passed, and if that happens, the
 system forwards them to another page.

How is that done? Not the forward... the detection of session expiration.

 I mean, in my programming I already considered what should happen if
 the session suddenly expired, and it should not arrive to this point.

But it might end up there anyway :)

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RE: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Jason Pringle

On 09/23/2010 2:27 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:

 Several release attempts have failed due to a lack of interest.

Lack of interest by whom?  The development team or the tomcat community?


 That said, $work is using this as the default pool in a commercial
 product based on Tomcat with minimal issues.

Ah yes, I do see that jar file in a commercial tomcat I downloaded recently.


 Overall, I'd suggest you take another look at DBCP. The historical
 issues with deadlocks have been fixed and syncs reduced to the bare
 minimum. jdbc-pool will easily beat it for performance in highly
 concurrent apps running on multi-core servers but apart from that, DBCP
 and jdbc-pool are pretty comparable and there are a number of areas
 where DBCP does a better job of making the pooled connection look like
 a
 normal connection. There are a few places where jdbc-pool requires
 extra
 (user written) interceptors to do this.

Will do


 The next generation of DBCP will be based on Pool 2.0 which will be
 based on the Java 5 concurrency features. Current thinking is to
 'borrow' code from jdbc-pool to update Commons Pool but that work has
 not been started.

Ah - a roadmap :)  Is there some chatter on the dev list to read up on here?



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Re: [OT] Use of error page in Tomcat

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Martin,

On 9/23/2010 7:22 AM, Martin O'Shea wrote:
 form action='%= response.encodeURL(/myApp/loginPage) %'
 method = post

I recommend a change to this:

form action='%= response.encodeURL(request.getContextPath() +
/loginPage) %'

This will allow your webapp to be re-deployed under a different name
without breaking.

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Re: Use of error page in Tomcat

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Martin,

On 9/23/2010 9:17 AM, Martin O'Shea wrote:
 Please advise how I'm not using the DSR because my config is wrong and
 parameters have been corrected as ?

Sheesh, read the servlet spec. It's not that long, and it's not in Greek.

 form action='%= response.encodeURL(/myApp/login) %' method = post

Wrong URL for authentication.

 td align = leftinput type = text name =
 j_username/td

/Correct/ name for username field.

 td align = leftinput type = password name
 = j_password/td

/correct/ name for password field.

 And where the web.xml file needs to be corrected?

Not knowing what your web.xml looks like, now, I couldn't comment.

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Re: Use of error page in Tomcat

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Martin,

On 9/23/2010 9:10 AM, Martin O'Shea wrote:
 Well, that's the code in the 6.0.20 samples I have.

What examples are you reading?

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Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread tdelesio

My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE web app
over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are looking for a
consultant to setup a crusted production instance of tomcat.  Does anyone
have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm that could provide
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RE: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Jason Pringle

Chris,

On 9/24/2010 7:24 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:

 What issues are you thinking of, specifically. These?
 http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/jdbc-pool.html

Googling around shows many complaints about multithreaded behavior and 
connection dropping.
Which (to me) suggests at least pockets of instability.

 
 The biggest problem with C3P0 is that it's unsupported (I heard... I
 can't find anywhere that it says the project is actually dead, but it's
 been over 3 years since their last release, and it's clearly labeled
 beta). It looks like they might be thinking about another point
 release.

Unsupported (or weakly supported) is likely a deal breaker for us.

 What's wrong with LGPL? I'm not trying to start a holy war... just
 curious about your objections.

Our legal department detests LGPL (lack of case law scares lawyers - nobody 
wants to BE the
case law) and getting approval to use anything LGPL is near impossible.  In 
some cases, for
well known products (say Hibernate) our company has made legal arrangements 
with the owner
(I don't know details, just that something's been done).

I don't necessarily agree with the rules, I just have to follow them.

  The feature page of the tomcat connection pool
  (http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/jdbc-pool.html) seems
  quite promising, but to be honest, it concerns me that the module is
  only readily available from a commiter's pages or from source.
 
 That is a shame.

Which part is a shame? That I don't want to propose we put big $$$ at risk on a 
component that does not have a solid community of support, or that the 
community hasn't supported a promising component?

NB: I'm not passing any judgement on the component itself, but a criterion for 
us to pull in FOSS is the level of community support etc.

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Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Jason,

On 9/24/2010 1:26 PM, Jason Pringle wrote:
 On 9/24/2010 7:24 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
 What's wrong with LGPL? I'm not trying to start a holy war... just
 curious about your objections.
 
 Our legal department detests LGPL (lack of case law scares lawyers - 
 nobody wants to BE the case law) and getting approval to use anything
 LGPL is near impossible. In some cases, for well known products (say
 Hibernate) our company has made legal arrangements with the owner (I
 don't know details, just that something's been done).

Wow, I thought RMS was the craziest person out there when it came to OSS
licenses. Apparently your legal department is even crazier.

I would be shocked if any LGPL-licensed project came after you for using
their library, assuming you didn't take their code, slap an interface on
top of it, and then sell it as See Three Pee Oh.

At any rate, it looks like the LGPL will be a blocker for you. Bummer.

 I don't necessarily agree with the rules, I just have to follow them.

I understand.

 The feature page of the tomcat connection pool
 (http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/jdbc-pool/jdbc-pool.html) seems
 quite promising, but to be honest, it concerns me that the module is
 only readily available from a commiter's pages or from source.

 That is a shame.
 
 Which part is a shame?

The part about having to build it yourself or trust a build on a
committer's page (though, if you don't trust the committer, I'm not sure
you should trust the code).

 That I don't want to propose we put big $$$ at risk on a component
 that does not have a solid community of support

At least you don't have to buy a license :)

 or that the community hasn't supported a promising component?

Technically speaking, the promising component hasn't even emerged from a
beta state, so it's not really available for support.

To answer your question of markt: tomcat-dbcp has stagnated due to lack
of interest from the Tomcat dev team itself. If you are motivated to
pick up where Filip left-off, you are more than welcome to join the dev
mailing list, start doing your own testing, and possibly even making
over the project module.

 NB: I'm not passing any judgement on the component itself, but a
 criterion for us to pull in FOSS is the level of community support
 etc.

Fair enough. I wonder why Filip lost interest.

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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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To whom it may concern,

On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
 My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE
 web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are
 looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
 tomcat.

Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to set it
up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?

 Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm
 that could provide these services?

I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very happy
to take way more money than is necessary to set up an instance of Tomcat
for you.

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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Warren Henning
http://www.springsource.com/support/professional-services

SpringSource claims to be able to do this kind of thing. They were the
first google result for tomcat consultant. Did you not search for
that or did you disregard it?

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:25 AM, tdelesio tdele...@gmail.com wrote:

 My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE web app
 over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are looking for a
 consultant to setup a crusted production instance of tomcat.  Does anyone
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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread tdelesio

HAHA.  Opps I meant clustered.  When you say top 5 which companies are you
referring to?
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RE: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
 Subject: Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

 To answer your question of markt: tomcat-dbcp has stagnated due 
 to lack of interest from the Tomcat dev team itself.

Also note that Filip is off on National Guard duty for some extended period of 
time, so his ability to continue development at the moment is rather limited.

 Does your legal team know that these messages are archived and
 re-published? They might have a stroke if they knew... :)

Now that would be a positive outcome, wouldn't it?  (I'm also struggling with a 
legal department that seems to be blissfully unaware of how OSS actually works.)

 - Chuck


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RE: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Brian
This company LOOKS like specialists: http://www.mulesoft.com/tomcat-support



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 On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
  My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE
  web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are
  looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
  tomcat.
 
 Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to set it up, do
 you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
 
  Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm
  that could provide these services?
 
 I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very happy to
 take way more money than is necessary to set up an instance of Tomcat for
 you.
 
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Re: Maximum number of session for tomcat 6

2010-09-24 Thread rujin raj
Chris,,

still i have confused to setting this parameter.Basically I m system
administrator not a programmer.

Please explain briefly with example... how to configure ??


On 23/09/2010, Pid p...@pidster.com wrote:

 On 22/09/2010 21:04, rujin raj wrote:
  Chris,
 
  I have  installed LambdaProbe for monitoring tomcat. I am not able to
  monitor the memory utilisation for the application.
 
  *Error:This page requires Java5 with enabled JMX Agent. To enable the JXM
  Agent please add -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote to java command line or
  $JAVA_OPTS environment variable. If you are an IBM JDK user please add
 these
  properties: -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote=true
  -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.authenticate=false
  -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.port=29001
  -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.ssl=false *
 
  How can i enable the JMX agent.. I am using Windows 2003 server tomcat 6
 and
  java jre 1.6 is installed.

 What's unclear about the above?  Did you read the message carefully?

 please add -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote to java command line or
 $JAVA_OPTS environment variable.


 In this case, it's probably actually $CATALINA_OPTS that you want, but
 the info is all there.


 p




Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Wesley Acheson
At least two of the regular supporters of this mailing list work in
spring source and one is one of the main committers to the tomcat
project. To me that speaks wonders for the company. I've been trying
to get my company to get them in for consultation too.

To no avail.

Wes

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Warren Henning
warren.henn...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.springsource.com/support/professional-services

 SpringSource claims to be able to do this kind of thing. They were the
 first google result for tomcat consultant. Did you not search for
 that or did you disregard it?

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:25 AM, tdelesio tdele...@gmail.com wrote:

 My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE web app
 over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are looking for a
 consultant to setup a crusted production instance of tomcat.  Does anyone
 have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm that could provide
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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Brian,

On 9/24/2010 2:29 PM, Brian wrote:
 This company LOOKS like specialists: http://www.mulesoft.com/tomcat-support

I've never heard of Tcat, supposedly the Apache Tomcat app server for
the enterprise. Beware.

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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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To whom it may concern,

On 9/24/2010 2:03 PM, tdelesio wrote:
 HAHA.  Opps I meant clustered.

Honestly, if you have some in-house Java developers, they ought to be
able to get a clustered setup working and demonstrable in a few hours.

 When you say top 5 which companies are you referring to?

Perhaps I'm showing my US-biased thought processes: in the US there are
5 companies that do consulting without any possibility of further
refining the word. They will consult with you to define and implement
your ERP strategy, design and code your Facebook-killing social network,
debug your home air conditioning unit, and help raise your children
while you're at work.

http://www.independent-consulting-bootcamp.com/Big-5-consulting-firm.html

Note that I don't personally agree with the adulatory style of writing
contained in the above page.

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Re: Maximum number of session for tomcat 6

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Rujin,

On 9/24/2010 2:36 PM, rujin raj wrote:
 still i have confused to setting this parameter.Basically I'm system
 administrator not a programmer.
 
 Please explain briefly with example... how to configure ??

Okay, let's start at the beginning: how do you launch Tomcat?

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RE: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Brian
Well... I must say that it looks like you are really an expert!  I need to 
check again my app in order to be able to respond all your questions. I started 
it 5 years ago, so there are a lot of details that I programmed long time ago, 
and once they seemed to work  fine, I gradually forgot about them.

But... for now, it SEEMS that the dissapearing beans issue is not happening 
anymore. However, it takes more time to be sure. Maybe I have been like lucky, 
and they will happen anytime soon.

At least the can't create session if response has been commited has been 
solved totally. That is great!!!
 

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 On 9/24/2010 11:29 AM, Brian wrote:
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  Where is it stored? Remember that there are 4 scopes (in increasing
  order of
  specificity): application, session, request, and page. If your page
  is looking in request scope, but the bean is in the session, it won't
  be found. Or, alternatively, if you store a bean in the request and
  issue a redirect, then the bean has likely been discarded.
 
  It is stored in the session, just because I wanted to avoid the
  problems that happen when you redirect.
 
 Are you sure that the user is hanging-on to the session? If the client doesn't
 support cookies, are you properly issuing a redirect? (If you use Struts's
 ActionForward with redirect=true in S1 or if you use a result
 type=redirect in S2 then you should be okay).
 
  That makes me think that the buffer full, then flushed
  is maybe the reason why the bean dissappears somehow.
 
 Very unlikely: the bean is put into the session far earlier than the error 
 occurs,
 and the session shouldn't be damaged by anything like what you describe.
 
  Could you also be experiencing session timeouts that aren't properly
  handled? Does your application use any kind of authentication and
  authorization? If not, you could easily be seeing visitors with
  expired sessions accessing actions that expect the session to be in a
 certain state.
 
  The sessions expire if 2 hours have passed, and if that happens, the
  system forwards them to another page.
 
 How is that done? Not the forward... the detection of session expiration.
 
  I mean, in my programming I already considered what should happen if
  the session suddenly expired, and it should not arrive to this point.
 
 But it might end up there anyway :)
 
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Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Chuck,

On 9/24/2010 2:04 PM, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
 Subject: Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?
 
 To answer your question of markt: tomcat-dbcp has stagnated due to
 lack of interest from the Tomcat dev team itself.
 
 Also note that Filip is off on National Guard duty for some extended
 period of time, so his ability to continue development at the moment
 is rather limited.

Good to know. Is he in the /US/ National Guard? He lives in Colorado, right?

 Does your legal team know that these messages are archived and 
 re-published? They might have a stroke if they knew... :)
 
 Now that would be a positive outcome, wouldn't it?

Probably not: their health insurance premiums would probably go up in
response.

 (I'm also struggling with a legal department that seems to be
 blissfully unaware of how OSS actually works.)

So sad. I'm lucky to be working in a small group where they really
/trust/ the engineers to make decent engineering decisions.

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Re: [OT] In org.apache.catalina.connector.Request.doGetSession, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Cannot create a session after the response has been committed

2010-09-24 Thread Christopher Schultz
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Brian,

On 9/24/2010 3:38 PM, Brian wrote:
 At least the can't create session if response has been commited has
 been solved totally. That is great!!!

Yup. Now you can see all those error messages you've been missing.

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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Jorge Medina
Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of the Big-5.

Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
Websphere is an application server.
Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to
migrate it to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an
application server.

-Jorge



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 To whom it may concern,

 On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
 My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE
 web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are
 looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
 tomcat.

 Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to set it
 up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?

 Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm
 that could provide these services?

 I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very happy
 to take way more money than is necessary to set up an instance of Tomcat
 for you.

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RE: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

2010-09-24 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:ch...@christopherschultz.net] 
 Subject: Re: tomcat connection pool - status and future?

 Is he in the /US/ National Guard?

Yes.

 He lives in Colorado, right?

Last I heard.  (Haven't actually seen him in about two years.)

 - Chuck


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RE: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Brian


 -Original Message-
 From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 
 Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.


Esto si que sonó gracioso.
Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los cuales
se llamaba JORGE MEDINA.   :-D



 You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
 But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of the
 Big-5.
 
 Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
 Websphere is an application server.
 Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to migrate it
 to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
server.
 
 -Jorge
 
 
 
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 ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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  To whom it may concern,
 
  On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
  My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE
  web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are
  looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
  tomcat.
 
  Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to set
  it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
 
  Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm
  that could provide these services?
 
  I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
  happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an instance
  of Tomcat for you.
 
  - -chris
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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Jorge Medina
I should have copyrights on my name. LOL

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant

 Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.


 Esto si que sonó gracioso.
 Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los cuales
 se llamaba JORGE MEDINA.   :-D



 You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
 But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of the
 Big-5.

 Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
 Websphere is an application server.
 Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to migrate it
 to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
 server.

 -Jorge



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 ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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  To whom it may concern,
 
  On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
  My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a J2EE
  web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are
  looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
  tomcat.
 
  Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to set
  it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
 
  Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm
  that could provide these services?
 
  I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
  happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an instance
  of Tomcat for you.
 
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Re: Help with jasypt (Java Security). NoClassDefFoundError. (works on Linux)

2010-09-24 Thread Steve Ryder
I wish that were true.  I did that (after similar advice from jasypt user 
list), did not help.  Same error.
However, I uploaded to Linux Tomcat 5.5 Java 1.5 system, restarted Tomcat, 
and it works!
Go figure.  I still have one application running on an old server at Tomcat 
5.5 Java 1.4 level.  As soon as I migrate it I will update my Windows 
environment to match.
I stayed with Tomcat 5.5 as it is the last stable release and am also at 
similar level for 1.5.


I have learned the hard way that putting up the latest release is rarely a 
good idea unless there is some compelling reason to do so.


Thanks for the advice.
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java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/commons/lang/exception/NestableRuntimeException


This is likely to be due to your placement of libraries.

Aside from Chuck's comments (with which I completely agree: it's upgrade
time for you), I would suggest that you place /all/ libraries your web
application needs into the webapp's WEB-INF/lib directory, and not use
common/lib for any of that stuff.

Moving your libraries from the common to the webapp's lib directory is
likely to solve this problem for you.

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RE: Help with jasypt (Java Security). NoClassDefFoundError. (works on Linux)

2010-09-24 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Steve Ryder [mailto:sry...@jsrsys.com] 
 Subject: Re: Help with jasypt (Java Security). NoClassDefFoundError. (works 
 on Linux)

 I stayed with Tomcat 5.5 as it is the last stable release

That's clearly not true.  The current stable release of Tomcat is 6.0.29.

 and am also at similar level for 1.5.

Which is not supported.  Only JRE/JDK 1.6 is now supported by Sun/Oracle, 
unless you buy their 15-year business license for older levels.

 - Chuck


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RE: Why an email list, and not a forum?

2010-09-24 Thread George Sexton
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian [mailto:bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 1:02 AM
 To: 'Tomcat Users List'
 Subject: RE: Why an email list, and not a forum?
 
 At least someone thinks the same way I do!

Given an infinitely large sample, any idea no matter how irrational is bound
to find at least a few adherents.

George Sexton
MH Software, Inc.
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RE: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Martin Gainty

triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a 1000 
brooks brothers suit
 
add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg
 
BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi 
translator for spanish

how about unisys???
 
Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
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 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 
 I should have copyrights on my name. LOL
 
 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 
  Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
 
 
  Esto si que sonó gracioso.
  Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los cuales
  se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D
 
 
 
  You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
  But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of the
  Big-5.
 
  Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
  Websphere is an application server.
  Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to migrate it
  to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
  server.
 
  -Jorge
 
 
 
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   web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are
   looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
   tomcat.
  
   Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to set
   it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
  
   Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm
   that could provide these services?
  
   I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
   happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an instance
   of Tomcat for you.
  
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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread michel
I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't  a big 5, but had some 
pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me in 
Denver  on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I could 
become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on different 
projects.


Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, and 
then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got canned 
...


I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this nonsense.





- Original Message - 
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To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant



triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a 
1000 brooks brothers suit


add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg

BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi 
translator for spanish


how about unisys???

Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
Martin Gainty
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com
To: users@tomcat.apache.org

I should have copyrights on my name. LOL

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant

 Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.


 Esto si que sonó gracioso.
 Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los 
 cuales

 se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D



 You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
 But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of the
 Big-5.

 Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
 Websphere is an application server.
 Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to migrate 
 it

 to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
 server.

 -Jorge



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  web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we are
  looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
  tomcat.
 
  Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to set
  it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
 
  Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting firm
  that could provide these services?
 
  I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
  happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an instance
  of Tomcat for you.
 
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RE: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Brian
That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they sent me
to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions of
Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. Then
they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for my time.
I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant.


 -Original Message-
 From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 
 I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't  a big 5, but had some
 pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me in
 Denver  on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I could
 become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on different
 projects.
 
 Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, and
 then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got canned
 ...
 
 I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this nonsense.
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Gainty mgai...@hotmail.com
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM
 Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant
 
 
 
 triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a
 1000 brooks brothers suit
 
 add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg
 
 BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi
 translator for spanish
 
 how about unisys???
 
 Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
 Martin Gainty
 __
 No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias
 
 
 
 
 
  Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
  Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
  From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com
  To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 
  I should have copyrights on my name. LOL
 
  On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
   To: Tomcat Users List
   Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
  
   Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
  
  
   Esto si que sonó gracioso.
   Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los
   cuales
   se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D
  
  
  
   You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
   But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of
 the
   Big-5.
  
   Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
   Websphere is an application server.
   Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to
 migrate
   it
   to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
   server.
  
   -Jorge
  
  
  
   On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz
   ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
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J2EE
web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we
 are
looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
tomcat.
   
Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to
set
it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
   
Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting
 firm
that could provide these services?
   
I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an
instance
of Tomcat for you.
   
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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread michel
Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about actually 
being on a project under those conditions.



Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ...


Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the best 
darned language that never managed  to get a good market share. It was said 
that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days all you 
need is a crash course to be an expert!







- Original Message - 
From: Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com

To: 'Tomcat Users List' users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant


That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they sent me
to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions of
Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. Then
they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for my time.
I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant.



-Original Message-
From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant

I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't  a big 5, but had some
pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me in
Denver  on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I could
become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on different
projects.

Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, and
then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got canned
...

I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this nonsense.





- Original Message -
From: Martin Gainty mgai...@hotmail.com
To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant



triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a
1000 brooks brothers suit

add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg

BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi
translator for spanish

how about unisys???

Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
Martin Gainty
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 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org

 I should have copyrights on my name. LOL

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 
  Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
 
 
  Esto si que sonó gracioso.
  Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los
  cuales
  se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D
 
 
 
  You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
  But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of
the
  Big-5.
 
  Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
  Websphere is an application server.
  Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to
migrate
  it
  to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
  server.
 
  -Jorge
 
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz
  ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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   On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
   My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a

J2EE

   web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we
are
   looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
   tomcat.
  
   Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to

set

   it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
  
   Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting
firm
   that could provide these services?
  
   I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
   happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an

instance

   of Tomcat for you.
  
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Re: Tomcat Logging Not Working Properly

2010-09-24 Thread Donald Winston
resurrection.level=FINE
(thanks everybody. You were helpful)

On Sep 24, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Donald Winston wrote:

 
 I can't get logging to work properly with tomcat(. The file handler prefix 
 works but anything below INFO does not show up in the log! What could be 
 wrong? I declare the logger in my classes like the following: 
 private static Logger logger = 
 Logger.getLogger(JessServletCommand.class.getName()); 
 
 My logging.properties file is in my WEB-INF/classes directory. It is the 
 following: 
 
 handlers = org.apache.juli.FileHandler, java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler 
 
  
 # Handler specific properties. 
 # Describes specific configuration info for Handlers. 
  
 
 org.apache.juli.FileHandler.level = FINE 
 org.apache.juli.FileHandler.directory = ${catalina.base}/logs 
 org.apache.juli.FileHandler.prefix = test. 
 
 java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.level = FINE 
 java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.formatter = 
 java.util.logging.SimpleFormatter 
 
 

Donald Paul Winston
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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread Donald Winston
I was a PL-I expert. That's why I know it's spelled PL-I  (roman numerals not 
arabic. I always thought this was funny)

On Sep 24, 2010, at 9:49 PM, michel wrote:

 Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about actually 
 being on a project under those conditions.
 
 
 Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ...
 
 
 Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the best 
 darned language that never managed  to get a good market share. It was said 
 that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days all you 
 need is a crash course to be an expert!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com
 To: 'Tomcat Users List' users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM
 Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant
 
 
 That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they sent me
 to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions of
 Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. Then
 they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for my time.
 I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca]
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 
 I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't  a big 5, but had some
 pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me in
 Denver  on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I could
 become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on different
 projects.
 
 Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, and
 then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got canned
 ...
 
 I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this nonsense.
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Gainty mgai...@hotmail.com
 To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM
 Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant
 
 
 
 triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a
 1000 brooks brothers suit
 
 add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg
 
 BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi
 translator for spanish
 
 how about unisys???
 
 Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
 Martin Gainty
 __
 No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias
 
 
 
 
 
  Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
  Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
  From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com
  To: users@tomcat.apache.org
 
  I should have copyrights on my name. LOL
 
  On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
   To: Tomcat Users List
   Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
  
   Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
  
  
   Esto si que sonó gracioso.
   Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los
   cuales
   se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D
  
  
  
   You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
   But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of
 the
   Big-5.
  
   Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
   Websphere is an application server.
   Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to
 migrate
   it
   to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
   server.
  
   -Jorge
  
  
  
   On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz
   ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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 J2EE
web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we
 are
looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
tomcat.
   
Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to
 set
it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
   
Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting
 firm
that could provide these services?
   
I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an
 instance
of Tomcat for you.
   
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Re: Tomcat Logging Not Working Properly

2010-09-24 Thread Wesley Acheson
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Donald Winston satchwins...@yahoo.com wrote:
 resurrection.level=FINE
 (thanks everybody. You were helpful)


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Re: Tomcat Consultant

2010-09-24 Thread michel

Just to mess with you, it's really PL/I ...


It was a fantastic, leading edge language that should have had a much better 
future than it really did.









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From: Donald Winston satchwins...@yahoo.com

To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant


I was a PL-I expert. That's why I know it's spelled PL-I  (roman numerals 
not arabic. I always thought this was funny)


On Sep 24, 2010, at 9:49 PM, michel wrote:

Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about actually 
being on a project under those conditions.



Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ...


Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the best 
darned language that never managed  to get a good market share. It was 
said that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days all 
you need is a crash course to be an expert!







- Original Message - From: Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com
To: 'Tomcat Users List' users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant


That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they sent me
to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions of
Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. Then
they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for my 
time.

I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant.



-Original Message-
From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant

I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't  a big 5, but had some
pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me in
Denver  on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I could
become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on different
projects.

Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, and
then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got canned
...

I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this nonsense.





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From: Martin Gainty mgai...@hotmail.com
To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant



triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a
1000 brooks brothers suit

add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg

BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi
translator for spanish

how about unisys???

Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
Martin Gainty
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No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias





 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
 Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com
 To: users@tomcat.apache.org

 I should have copyrights on my name. LOL

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
 
  Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
 
 
  Esto si que sonó gracioso.
  Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los
  cuales
  se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D
 
 
 
  You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
  But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of
the
  Big-5.
 
  Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
  Websphere is an application server.
  Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to
migrate
  it
  to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
  server.
 
  -Jorge
 
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz
  ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:
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   On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
   My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a

J2EE

   web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we
are
   looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance 
   of

   tomcat.
  
   Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to

set

   it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean trusted?
  
   Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting
firm
   that could provide these services?
  
   I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
   happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an

instance

   of Tomcat for you.
  
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Re: How to reproduce tomcat security vulnerabilities

2010-09-24 Thread viola lu
Got it.
Appreciate your clarification, Christopher. I will keep post clear to
understand.:)


On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Christopher Schultz 
ch...@christopherschultz.net wrote:

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 Viola,

 On 9/22/2010 11:29 PM, viola lu wrote:
  thanks. I tried it on tomcat 6.0.26, and 6.0.29, it worked for the second
  one, i can get correct response headers on tomcat 6.0.26 and tomcat
 6.0.29:
  tomcat 6.0.26

 What is the first one and the second one? The bugs you mentioned in
 your first post? Remember, not everyone is thinking what you're
 thinking: please be clear when posting.

  suse10sp268:~ # wget -S -O - --post-data='test send post'
  http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
  --07:21:33--
 http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
 = `-'
  Connecting to 9.125.1.248:8080... connected.
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
*WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=9.125.1.248:8080*

 Good: this reproduces the bug.

  *tomcat 6.0.29:*
  suse10sp268:~ # wget -S -O - --post-data='test send post'
  http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
  --07:24:02--
 http://9.125.1.248:8080/BasicAuthor_without_realm/BasicAuthor
  = `-'
  Connecting to 9.125.1.248:8080... connected.
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 401 Unauthorized
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
*WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=Authentication required*

 ...and this shows that the bug has been fixed: no IP and port.

   But for the first one, both got the same response: 200 OK as below:
  suse10sp268:~ # wget -S -O - --header='Transfer-Encoding:unsupported'
  --post-data='test send post'
  http://9.125.1.248:8080/SecurityTomcat/SecurityServlet
  --07:12:16--  http://9.125.1.248:8080/SecurityTomcat/SecurityServlet
 = `-'
  Connecting to 9.125.1.248:8080... connected.
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 61
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 03:09:09 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
  Length: 61 [text/html]
   0%
  [
  ] 0 --.--K/s unsupported
  application/x-www-form-urlencoded
  9.125.1.248
 
 100%[=]
  61--.--K/s
 
  07:12:16 (7.27 MB/s) - `-' saved [61/61]
 
  Seems no difference on tomcat 6.0.26 and tomcat 6.0.29, is there
 something
  wrong?

 Maybe this is sensitive to other conditions as well.

 On 9/24/2010 12:57 AM, viola lu wrote:
  After debug into tomcat source code, i found that if transfer-encode is
 set
  as 'buffered', tomcat 6.0.26 will report null pointer exception in
 buffered
  filter recycle, but in tomcat 6.0.29 , directly report 501 error. But not
  sure attackers how to obtain sensitive information via a crafted header?

 When buffers are not recycled properly, information /can/ leak across
 requests. This means that, under the right conditions, an attacker
 /might/ be able to exploit the server to disclose information.

 Just because a vulnerability does not have an exploit doesn't mean it's
 not a vulnerability: the possibility exists that information can be
 disclosed. It's not absolutely necessary to be able to actually steal
 information from a server to be considered a vulnerability.

 This one might not be reproducible in any predictable way.

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