Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Send reply to: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org From: Michael A. Repucci mich...@repucci.org Date sent: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:42:16 -0400 Subject:Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files To: Tomcat Users List users@tomcat.apache.org Seems like a bit of animosity toward Tomcat has finally helped me make progress, mostly because it got all you gurus to actually explain a bit of how it works, and how it's packaged, all concepts I didn't understand. I'm a scientist, not a programmer. Really? Your cv/resume indicates otherwise. Sure your phd is in neuroscience but your current employment is listed as Scientific Programmer and so was your last employment. Considering that you are Proficient in things such as C/C++/C#, PHP ... Linux OS you should have considered that letting people know some details about your configuration/system would have helped. Anyways, as stated by other people, get rid of the ubuntu packaged Tomcat and install the official one, also use a real Java version from SUN. Also, tomcat does work out of the box. Incorrect administration of any system will stop it from working out of the box. -Steve O. I'm new to Ubuntu and Tomcat. My colleagues have been completely unhelpful in this process. It works on their systems, so they've just left me to struggle on my own. My frustration is further fueled by the fact that the web site that our application will soon handle (http://neuroanalysis.org/toolkit/) is working just fine as static html; it doesn't change much, and most of the pages (not viewable externally) are generated automatically from code, using m2html or doxygen. But now they want me to integrate this site into the JSP format seen at the root (http://neuroanalysis.org/), despite the fact that I have zero experience with Tomcat, Java, or JSP, and nearly no web application development experience. It would have been nice if Tomcat just worked, out of the box, but it took me a couple days just to get it up and running. Now Tomcat works, at least the default page and the example webapps, but the application that my colleagues built won't work. This is their fault, as far as I'm concerned, yet there's nothing I can do to force them to improve what is probably sloppy code on their part. So I'm just looking for some help. Sorry to insult Tomcat, but thanks for the useful feedback. I'll work on the suggestions and let you know if I can't make any progress. :) Michael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Steve Ochani ocha...@ncc.edu wrote: Really? Your cv/resume indicates otherwise. Sure your phd is in neuroscience but your current employment is listed as Scientific Programmer and so was your last employment. Considering that you are Proficient in things such as C/C++/C#, PHP ... Linux OS you should have considered that letting people know some details about your configuration/system would have helped. That's just marketing. If you look more carefully, I've never worked outside of academia. I've even tried, and I can't get a job as a real programmer. My father and brother are both real programmers, and I understand the difference between what they know and what I know. But when trying to get a job in science doing programming, the academics that tend to hire you like to see proficiency, where my proficiency in any of those languages is probably less than yours. Anyways, as stated by other people, get rid of the ubuntu packaged Tomcat and install the official one, also use a real Java version from SUN. Working on it. I didn't realize that Ubuntu packages were the potentially more difficult route. I'd made the false assumption that they might simplify things for me. Also, tomcat does work out of the box. Incorrect administration of any system will stop it from working out of the box. Honestly, what I'm most frustrated about isn't Tomcat, per say, but the stuff written by my colleagues that should work with Tomcat. I'm a bit baffled how the über-cross-platform Java (and its disciples Ant and Tomcat) could be used to create code that is extraordinarily sensitive to the version and platforms on which it is compiled and run. I suppose that's just because the code was poorly written, and you could probably write platform- and version-dependent code in any language, but it would have been nice if I could have installed whatever the latest packages were on my system, and compiled and run successfully the first time. Instead I'm spending upwards of a week learning all the internals. I guess that's useful in the long run, but I could just use some good and patient guidance. Sorry to have stepped on anybody's toes, and thank you all for your help. :) Michael
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: From: michael.repu...@gmail.com [mailto:michael.repu...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files Then when I reinstalled, Tomcat didn't get reinstalled under /etc nor /etc/init.d, and it didn't get started automatically as it had before. It wasn't clear to me whether you used a repackaged Tomcat this time, or downloaded a real one from tomcat.apache.org. If the latter, the scripts are in Tomcat's bin directory, under the names startup.sh and shutdown.sh. If you used a 3rd-party repackaged version, there's no telling where they might be. - Chuck Actually it seemed clear to me the OP used a package installer as the original tomcat download doesn't have anything to place files in /etc automatically (at least not that I've ever seen). I think the OP should have used the operating system's install/uninstall tool to remove the package instead of just deleting files. It also sounds to me the reinstall failed in some manner, maybe silently. To Michael: I would use the system control panel stuff included with your OS to uninstall the tomcat package, then go back in and re-install it. If the re-install doesn't work, check the logs related to package maintenance (maybe syslog?) and ask on a email list for your OS how to remove/reinstall a damaged package. Or you could just uninstall it, download tomcat from tomcat.apache.org and install it. Installation is super easy -- just unarchive it using the appropriate unzip/untar program, cd to tomcat's bin directory and run startup.sh. Once you get it running, then go ahead and modify files like server.xml and tomcat-users.xml to taste as well as add/remove webapps in the webapps directory. It won't start automatically this way, but at least you'll have something working. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Michael A. Repucci wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Steve Ochani ocha...@ncc.edu wrote: Really? Your cv/resume indicates otherwise. Sure your phd is in neuroscience but your current employment is listed as Scientific Programmer and so was your last employment. Considering that you are Proficient in things such as C/C++/C#, PHP ... Linux OS you should have considered that letting people know some details about your configuration/system would have helped. That's just marketing. If you look more carefully, I've never worked outside of academia. I've even tried, and I can't get a job as a real programmer. My father and brother are both real programmers, and I understand the difference between what they know and what I know. But when trying to get a job in science doing programming, the academics that tend to hire you like to see proficiency, where my proficiency in any of those languages is probably less than yours. Anyways, as stated by other people, get rid of the ubuntu packaged Tomcat and install the official one, also use a real Java version from SUN. Working on it. I didn't realize that Ubuntu packages were the potentially more difficult route. I'd made the false assumption that they might simplify things for me. Also, tomcat does work out of the box. Incorrect administration of any system will stop it from working out of the box. Honestly, what I'm most frustrated about isn't Tomcat, per say, but the stuff written by my colleagues that should work with Tomcat. I'm a bit baffled how the über-cross-platform Java (and its disciples Ant and Tomcat) could be used to create code that is extraordinarily sensitive to the version and platforms on which it is compiled and run. I suppose that's just because the code was poorly written, and you could probably write platform- and version-dependent code in any language, but it would have been nice if I could have installed whatever the latest packages were on my system, and compiled and run successfully the first time. Instead I'm spending upwards of a week learning all the internals. I guess that's useful in the long run, but I could just use some good and patient guidance. Sorry to have stepped on anybody's toes, and thank you all for your help. :) Michael Webapps written to the servlet spec aren't super-sensitive. If written to spec, there might be some minor bit of setup (e.g. database pool), but otherwise they should just plain work. Your colleagues may have done things outside the spec if their stuff doesn't just work with a minor bit of setup like a database pool if needed. Adding to that, tomcat as packaged at tomcat.apache.org and run on Sun's JVM isn't sensitive either. I've never had any trouble setting up an instance of it, but then again, I don't use the third party packages either. If your system is using some other JVM like Kaffe, it may be contributing to your headaches. Try this for a confidence builder: - get tomcat 6 from tomcat.apache.org - unpack wherever you like - make sure you have a Sun JVM version 1.5 or better installed and available (execute the command java -version to see what comes up) - cd into tomcat's bin directory - start tomcat with ./startup.sh - go to your favorite browser and browse http://localhost:8080 (I think that's the default, out of the box http connector port) and see the magic. Once you have that success, add your webapp to the webapps directory and check it out on that same browser. 'tis just that simple. --David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
On 15-May-2009, at 10:37, Michael A. Repucci wrote: Also, tomcat does work out of the box. Incorrect administration of any system will stop it from working out of the box. Honestly, what I'm most frustrated about isn't Tomcat, per say, but the stuff written by my colleagues that should work with Tomcat. I'm a bit baffled how the über-cross-platform Java (and its disciples Ant and Tomcat) could be used to create code that is extraordinarily sensitive to the version and platforms on which it is compiled and run. I suppose that's just because the code was poorly written, and you could probably write platform- and version-dependent code in any language, but it would have been nice if I could have installed whatever the latest packages were on my system, and compiled and run successfully the first time. Instead I'm spending upwards of a week learning all the internals. I guess that's useful in the long run, but I could just use some good and patient guidance. Sorry to have stepped on anybody's toes, and thank you all for your help. I hate to say it, but the best way to make Java code have issues is trying to be too smart when doing something. This usually results in code that works in certain narrow situations, but not the rest. What I mean by being 'too smart' is when someone try to make the best 'uber' code possible, which ends up being convoluted and only understandable to the author when it was written. I am not saying it is the case here, but programming is like hand writing, in that you do yourself a favour by making sure it is written well enough that someone else can read it and yourself in a month's time. On the other hand, there are different version of servlet specification, of Java, of Tomcat and each has their incompatibilities. Learning how to make your code work in the widest range of conditions will help make you a better programmer, IMHO. André-John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael, On 5/14/2009 4:14 PM, Michael A. Repucci wrote: Yes. That changed nothing. Still no catalina.out, still no ourapp.log. Sorry for the barrage of questions, but the answers will help us figure out what's going on: Can you tell us how you start Tomcat? Are you sure that it's running when no log files are generated? What is the euid of the running Tomcat process? Where /is/ Tomcat's log directory (you may have to read the script that you use to start Tomcat to figure out what that is)? What are the file permissions on Tomcat's log directory? What are the file permissions of the log files themselves (if the files still exist)? What JVM are you using (try running java -version)? What version of Tomcat are you using? I don't want to start a flame war, but you'll catch more flies with honey: saying that TC is a crappy piece of software is not recommended technique when asking for help from this list. As for your colleagues' code not running, I suspect it's something simple like a required database library not being installed into Tomcat (which is required, depending on how they have arranged everything). Once error messages return, you are welcome to report the errors you get from their application and we'll do what we can to help. Thanks, - -chris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkoNj+QACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PBvOwCeM4lDnGOsWkHJOl/nYI41pmlN Gy8AoLHam8zJ4tmjAYFcqoKrWqK18pMJ =RY7b -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Michael A. Repucci wrote: Hi Tomcat'ers, I'm completely new to Tomcat, and very unfamiliar with JSP or web applications in general. I've been trying to set up an application on my system (Ubuntu 9.04) that works just fine on my colleagues' systems (Windows XP). I've got Tomcat working just fine, and the manager and demo applications all work. But loading our application was giving me errors. Before I can let you know what the errors are, I need help making Tomcat write them once again to the log files. See, I did a silly thing. I wanted to clear the log files (catalina.out and ourapp.log), so I just opened them, emptied them, and resaved them. (Dumb, I know. I was getting frustrated.) Lo and behold, Tomcat stopped writing to them, even after completely restarting my computer. How can I get Tomcat to rewrite to these files? I've searched all over this group's archive and the web, and the closest thing I found was this not so helpful suggestion ( http://marc.info/?l=tomcat-userm=107947604330561w=2). Any ideas? Did you try stopping Tomcat, deleting these logfiles altogether, and restarting Tomcat ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Yes. That changed nothing. Still no catalina.out, still no ourapp.log. Michael Repucci (M) 718-288-4554 (W) 212-746-0462 mich...@repucci.org http://michael.repucci.org/ --See life as it is, not as it appears to be. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:09 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: Michael A. Repucci wrote: Hi Tomcat'ers, I'm completely new to Tomcat, and very unfamiliar with JSP or web applications in general. I've been trying to set up an application on my system (Ubuntu 9.04) that works just fine on my colleagues' systems (Windows XP). I've got Tomcat working just fine, and the manager and demo applications all work. But loading our application was giving me errors. Before I can let you know what the errors are, I need help making Tomcat write them once again to the log files. See, I did a silly thing. I wanted to clear the log files (catalina.out and ourapp.log), so I just opened them, emptied them, and resaved them. (Dumb, I know. I was getting frustrated.) Lo and behold, Tomcat stopped writing to them, even after completely restarting my computer. How can I get Tomcat to rewrite to these files? I've searched all over this group's archive and the web, and the closest thing I found was this not so helpful suggestion ( http://marc.info/?l=tomcat-userm=107947604330561w=2). Any ideas? Did you try stopping Tomcat, deleting these logfiles altogether, and restarting Tomcat ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Michael A. Repucci wrote: Yes. That changed nothing. Still no catalina.out, still no ourapp.log. Well, that'll teach you to do stupid things like that under Windows. Seriously now, if this was one of my customers calling me to tell me the same story, I would ask them and what else did you do that you're not telling us ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Well, actually, I did this stupid thing under Ubuntu Linux. I've even now gone through the process of completely uninstalling and reinstalling the Tomcat packages, and it doesn't help. So now, not only does our application not work on my local machine, but I can't figure out why because Tomcat won't give me error messages. I think I'm going to give up on Tomcat entirely ... crappy piece of software. I take it that you have nothing useful to contribute to my problem? Michael Repucci (M) 718-288-4554 (W) 212-746-0462 mich...@repucci.org http://michael.repucci.org/ --See life as it is, not as it appears to be. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:23 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: Michael A. Repucci wrote: Yes. That changed nothing. Still no catalina.out, still no ourapp.log. Well, that'll teach you to do stupid things like that under Windows. Seriously now, if this was one of my customers calling me to tell me the same story, I would ask them and what else did you do that you're not telling us ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Michael A. Repucci wrote: Well, actually, I did this stupid thing under Ubuntu Linux. I've even now gone through the process of completely uninstalling and reinstalling the Tomcat packages, and it doesn't help. So now, not only does our application not work on my local machine, but I can't figure out why because Tomcat won't give me error messages. I think I'm going to give up on Tomcat entirely ... crappy piece of software. I take it that you have nothing useful to contribute to my problem? Sorry, I got confused between your system and your colleague's. I'll quote you : --See life as it is, not as it appears to be. But yes, I'll try some suggestions : Under Ubuntu, your Tomcat is probably running under jsvc, which is a kind of wrapper which allows Tomcat to be started as non-root, but still use port 80 for instance if needed. And it is probably also being launched by the script /etc/init.d/tomcatx.y. (where x.y is the version) If you look in that file, you'll also probably find that it does some funny things with some logfiles, which normally should be found under /var/log/tomcatx.y., but which may just end up in one of the other logfiles in /var/log in this case. If you did install this tomcat with the apt utility, then just do - apt-get remove tomcatx.y - apt-get purge tomcatx.y Then, make sure that the java you have is a Sun Java, not gcj, and make it the default (update-alternatives java). Then - apt-get install tomcatx.y and it should just magically run again. (Under Ubuntu, you probably need to prefix all the above by sudo). Alternatively, if you are going to be using this mainly for development, and you don't care if it is well-integrated with the rest of the Ubuntu package system, and you want a Tomcat layout a bit easier to understand than what the Debian and Ubuntu packagers do, you may want to download and install an official Tomcat from the Tomcat website. That one installs under a single directory, usually /usr/local/tomcat or so. Then you have everything in one place, without symlinks etc.. The inconvenient is that you'll have to write your own system start/stop scripts etc.. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Michael A. Repucci wrote: Well, actually, I did this stupid thing under Ubuntu Linux. I've even now gone through the process of completely uninstalling and reinstalling the Tomcat packages, and it doesn't help. So now, not only does our application not work on my local machine, but I can't figure out why because Tomcat won't give me error messages. I think I'm going to give up on Tomcat entirely ... crappy piece of software. I take it that you have nothing useful to contribute to my problem? Other than saying that Tomcat is not a crappy piece of software, and I've been using it for many years, I'm afraid I don't have any other suggestions. Have you searched your HD to see if the logs are ending up somewhere other than where you were expecting them to? Michael Repucci (M) 718-288-4554 (W) 212-746-0462 mich...@repucci.org http://michael.repucci.org/ --See life as it is, not as it appears to be. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:23 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: Michael A. Repucci wrote: Yes. That changed nothing. Still no catalina.out, still no ourapp.log. Well, that'll teach you to do stupid things like that under Windows. Seriously now, if this was one of my customers calling me to tell me the same story, I would ask them and what else did you do that you're not telling us ? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
RE: tomcat no longer writing to log files
From: michael.repu...@gmail.com [mailto:michael.repu...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files I think I'm going to give up on Tomcat entirely ... crappy piece of software. That's a pretty amazing attitude for somebody who admitted they screwed up and then blames a product that's used on about 60% of the app servers in the world. Why would anyone bother to help you when you whine like that? Regardless, before you throw the baby out with the bathwater, try installing an official Tomcat from tomcat.apache.org; the 3rd-party ones that come with many Linux distributions use symlinks to scatter bits and pieces of Tomcat all over, especially the log files. It's highly likely you have destroyed those symlinks. If you must use Ubuntu packages, you should be talking to Ubuntu support. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Seems like a bit of animosity toward Tomcat has finally helped me make progress, mostly because it got all you gurus to actually explain a bit of how it works, and how it's packaged, all concepts I didn't understand. I'm a scientist, not a programmer. I'm new to Ubuntu and Tomcat. My colleagues have been completely unhelpful in this process. It works on their systems, so they've just left me to struggle on my own. My frustration is further fueled by the fact that the web site that our application will soon handle (http://neuroanalysis.org/toolkit/) is working just fine as static html; it doesn't change much, and most of the pages (not viewable externally) are generated automatically from code, using m2html or doxygen. But now they want me to integrate this site into the JSP format seen at the root (http://neuroanalysis.org/), despite the fact that I have zero experience with Tomcat, Java, or JSP, and nearly no web application development experience. It would have been nice if Tomcat just worked, out of the box, but it took me a couple days just to get it up and running. Now Tomcat works, at least the default page and the example webapps, but the application that my colleagues built won't work. This is their fault, as far as I'm concerned, yet there's nothing I can do to force them to improve what is probably sloppy code on their part. So I'm just looking for some help. Sorry to insult Tomcat, but thanks for the useful feedback. I'll work on the suggestions and let you know if I can't make any progress. :) Michael
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:11 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote: If you did install this tomcat with the apt utility, then just do - apt-get remove tomcatx.y - apt-get purge tomcatx.y Then, make sure that the java you have is a Sun Java, not gcj, and make it the default (update-alternatives java). Then - apt-get install tomcatx.y and it should just magically run again. Hmm ... well now I've gone and made things worse again. André's advice sounded good, but I'd basically already done this using the Synapic Package Manager, and it didn't help. So I decided, foolishly, to take it one step farther. I removed, and purged, then searched the system for anything Tomcat related, and deleted that stuff too. Then when I reinstalled, Tomcat didn't get reinstalled under /etc nor /etc/init.d, and it didn't get started automatically as it had before. So is there some way to auto-recreate those magic startup scripts? I know I could just start it manually, or create the scripts myself, but they used to be there before I stupidly removed them. How do I get them back? Sad, tired, and frustrated. I'm going home. :( Michael
RE: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Tomcat is an aggregation of well-tested apache components
could you elaborate a bit more on your implementation of either log4j or
commons-logging?
and please read the Tomcat logging tutorial
http://www.mbaworld.com/docs/logging.html
incidentally log4j specifies log4j.appender.R.File as in this log4j.properties
file
log4j.appender.R.File=${catalina.home}/logs/tomcat.log and commons-logging
would handle the File specification as
1catalina.org.apache.juli.FileHandler.directory = ${catalina.base}/logs
HTH
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Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:50:02 -0400
From: dcker...@verizon.net
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Michael A. Repucci wrote:
Well, actually, I did this stupid thing under Ubuntu Linux. I've even now
gone through the process of completely uninstalling and reinstalling the
Tomcat packages, and it doesn't help. So now, not only does our application
not work on my local machine, but I can't figure out why because Tomcat
won't give me error messages. I think I'm going to give up on Tomcat
entirely ... crappy piece of software. I take it that you have nothing
useful to contribute to my problem?
Other than saying that Tomcat is not a crappy piece of software, and
I've been using it for many years, I'm afraid I don't have any other
suggestions. Have you searched your HD to see if the logs are ending up
somewhere other than where you were expecting them to?
Michael Repucci
(M) 718-288-4554
(W) 212-746-0462
mich...@repucci.org
http://michael.repucci.org/
--See life as it is, not as it appears to be.
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:23 PM, André Warnier a...@ice-sa.com wrote:
Michael A. Repucci wrote:
Yes. That changed nothing. Still no catalina.out, still no ourapp.log.
Well, that'll teach you to do stupid things like that under Windows.
Seriously now, if this was one of my customers calling me to tell me the
same story, I would ask them and what else did you do that you're not
telling us ?
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RE: tomcat no longer writing to log files
From: michael.repu...@gmail.com [mailto:michael.repu...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files Then when I reinstalled, Tomcat didn't get reinstalled under /etc nor /etc/init.d, and it didn't get started automatically as it had before. It wasn't clear to me whether you used a repackaged Tomcat this time, or downloaded a real one from tomcat.apache.org. If the latter, the scripts are in Tomcat's bin directory, under the names startup.sh and shutdown.sh. If you used a 3rd-party repackaged version, there's no telling where they might be. - Chuck THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR OTHERWISE PROPRIETARY MATERIAL and is thus for use only by the intended recipient. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the e-mail and its attachments from all computers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files
Michael A. Repucci wrote: Seems like a bit of animosity toward Tomcat has finally helped me make progress, mostly because it got all you gurus to actually explain a bit of how it works, and how it's packaged, all concepts I didn't understand. I'm a scientist, not a programmer. I'm new to Ubuntu and Tomcat. My colleagues have been completely unhelpful in this process. It works on their systems, so they've just left me to struggle on my own. No wonder, if you're always grouchy like that. My frustration is further fueled by the fact that the web site that our application will soon handle (http://neuroanalysis.org/toolkit/) is working just fine as static html; it doesn't change much, and most of the pages (not viewable externally) are generated automatically from code, using m2html or doxygen. But now they want me to integrate this site into the JSP format seen at the root (http://neuroanalysis.org/), despite the fact that I have zero experience with Tomcat, Java, or JSP, and nearly no web application development experience. Life is tough sometimes. We empathise. It would have been nice if Tomcat just worked, out of the box, but it took me a couple days just to get it up and running. I hesitate to tell you this, considering the possible nefarious additional effect on your mood, but for most people it takes only a few minutes. (I'm talking mostly of programmers though, don't really know about scientists). Now Tomcat works, at least the default page and the example webapps, but the application that my colleagues built won't work. This is their fault, as far as I'm concerned, yet there's nothing I can do to force them to improve what is probably sloppy code on their part. You could try your recipe of being rude to them also, it may work too. So I'm just looking for some help. Sorry to insult Tomcat, but thanks for the useful feedback. I'll work on the suggestions and let you know if I can't make any progress. :) Michael :) André - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org
