Re: noob: subversion 1.6 vs Xcode vs Versions
Hi, I'm new to using SVN for XCode project and I'm wondering why do you hate how XCode handle it. As far as I'm concerned, I can't see limitations in XCode for my current use but if they are some, I'd prefer avoid them right now by using some other SVN client. Can't you explain to me your XCode+SVN aversion? Thanks a lot, On 3 juil, 16:48, Robert Kosara rkos...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, that should work. There is nothing that would force you to use SVN within Xcode. In fact, I hate Xcode's handling of SVN, and use Versions for my projects. And don't just add your classes, but your entire project folder. Just make sure you ignore the build directory, and you should be good to go. It's also a good practice to close Xcode before checking in changes, because it always makes changes to some files when you do that. But other than that, it's really painless. On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:50 AM, tvalleau tvall...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to expose my newbiness, but a guy's got to start somewhere. I'm new to version control; new to subversion; sorta new to Xcode (well, I did write an iPhone program in it) and not at all new to programming (30+ years) and new to Versions. (Hi! :-) There's just me here. No collaborators; no offsite; just a local repo. Got Versions so I can go backwards in my next iPhone project. Pretty simple. But then I used MacPorts today, (before I should have) and installed the latest (1.6.3) Subversion. Wrong! Xcode dunna like that. Fine. Given that it's just me, can someone give me a sanity check on this:? Can I just set up Versions to a nice 1.6 Subversion; ignore SVN in Xcode entirely; set up a local bookmark/repository for my code files. Then just check them out into my Classes folder; diddle with them; and then check the changes back in? Crude, I'd suppose, or at least not as elegant as this whole SVN thing can be, but... won't that work for my infinitely tiny needs? What am I missing here? (Besides experience, I mean...) TIA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
subversion 1.6 vs Xcode vs Versions
Hello I installed subversion 1.6.n before realizing that Xcode won't work with it, and before buying Versions (just) today. Is there any reason I can't just use Versions alone, (ignoring SVN in Xcode) and simply check out to my Classes folder in my current project(s)? The repo is local; there's no one on the project except me. What am I missing by doing that? Anything important, or that I'll regret later? (Sorry: I'm an SVN newbie). TIA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: noob: subversion 1.6 vs Xcode vs Versions
Aha! I'm not crazy...:-) Thanks, Robert. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Generally, the version on the server is not crucially important, unless you want to take advantage of features in a particular version. If the server is running v1.5.5, you can still use a client in v1.4.6 mode, for example. The latest version of Subversion is v1.6 and only the beta version of Versions supports that. The current stable release gives you v1.4.6 or v1.5.4. /TheDO/ On May 16, 2:49 pm, Shmaff alex.smith...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Versions Team, I'm very interested in your product. I've tried it as a Trial in the past and it seemed to work great! I've been away from subversion for some time now and I've realized that beanstalkapp.com is upgrading to subversion 1.5.5 across all repositories on May 20th. I'm just curious to know which release of Versions is most suitable to that environment. I ask this only because I'm having difficulty finding the specific date as to when subversion 1.5.5 was released. Somewhere between Dec. 22 2008 and Jan 2009? I see that the latest public release of Versions was VERSION 1.0.3 (BUILD 56) - DECEMBER 2 2008 as published on your website. Should I press on with 1.04b2? Regards, Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Hi Versions Team, I'm very interested in your product. I've tried it as a Trial in the past and it seemed to work great! I've been away from subversion for some time now and I've realized that beanstalkapp.com is upgrading to subversion 1.5.5 across all repositories on May 20th. I'm just curious to know which release of Versions is most suitable to that environment. I ask this only because I'm having difficulty finding the specific date as to when subversion 1.5.5 was released. Somewhere between Dec. 22 2008 and Jan 2009? I see that the latest public release of Versions was VERSION 1.0.3 (BUILD 56) - DECEMBER 2 2008 as published on your website. Should I press on with 1.04b2? Regards, Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Been using beta2 with subversion 1.6.1 since the without any issues. Thanks for development and the availability of this beta. - Cristobal On May 4, 9:50 pm, João Pavão jpa...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, We're releasing the second beta of Versions 1.0.4 today. It includes a fix for the process starvation issue caused by zombie ssh processes being left behind by subversion. Please report any new or persisting problems to this thread. Versions 1.0.4b2 (Build 64) - May 4 2009 Release Notes: - Patched subversion 1.6.1 to avoid leaving zombie ssh processes behind when accessing svn+ssh repositories. Download from http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b2_64.zip Thanks! -- João the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Not sure where you want the beta feedback to go, but the 1.0.4b2_64 build is working just fine for me, I'm using 1.6 repositories. On May 4, 12:50 pm, João Pavão jpa...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, We're releasing the second beta of Versions 1.0.4 today. It includes a fix for the process starvation issue caused by zombie ssh processes being left behind by subversion. Please report any new or persisting problems to this thread. Versions 1.0.4b2 (Build 64) - May 4 2009 Release Notes: - Patched subversion 1.6.1 to avoid leaving zombie ssh processes behind when accessing svn+ssh repositories. Download from http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b2_64.zip Thanks! -- João the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Hey guys, We're releasing the second beta of Versions 1.0.4 today. It includes a fix for the process starvation issue caused by zombie ssh processes being left behind by subversion. Please report any new or persisting problems to this thread. Versions 1.0.4b2 (Build 64) - May 4 2009 Release Notes: - Patched subversion 1.6.1 to avoid leaving zombie ssh processes behind when accessing svn+ssh repositories. Download from http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b2_64.zip Thanks! -- João the Versions team --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
On 27 Apr, 22:36, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Exactly. Although these 1.6 issues are eating more time then we would like :-/ Up to version 1.0.3 you always released at least one version a month. Now almost five months have passed since then and you come out with a beta with a very unimpressive list of changes. You are blaming SVN 1.6 about that, while you apparently started to work on it reluctantly and only after significant pressure from the user base in the last month. With all due respect, I am a bit worried. I am happy with Versions, but I am starting to wonder whether significant development is still ongoing or it has already reached maintenance mode. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Dear Ganesh, I understand that we might send out mixed signals by engaging in some conversations, but not openly discussing all of our plans. The below is not meant as an attack on what you just posted, but as a clarification of our point of view to whomever is interested in it. I've tried to keep this concise, sorry in advance for failing at that. ;) The purpose of this google group, from our perspective, is to provide a forum for people who use Versions to have an open dialogue with each other and with us. People in our development team will primarily post to this group when they feel they are most suited to address a question or concern posted here. The community of Versions users is immensely important to us, but Versions is not an open source project. Our primary responsibility – one we take very seriously – is to provide you all with an application that is *and continues to be* a pleasure to use. Listening to concerns, engaging in dialogue about where Versions is headed, and continuously improving the app are all part of that responsibility. Providing a detailed account of what we are working on and when exactly we plan to ship the fruits of our labor is not. It is understandable when someone mistakes our silence about what exactly we are working on for an indication that we are not working on anything, but it is kind of a stretch. Remember Versions 1.0? We added a bunch of new features in that release (Auto-refresh, change badges, Info pane, etc.) that we had not discussed anywhere in public before. That's more or less indicative of how we, and a bunch of other commercial software companies work: We listen to feedback, engage in conversation, then lock ourselves up in our offices to come up with the best way to mix a variety of feature requests with the direction we want to take the application into, and when we have something to show for that work, we show it. Work on SVN 1.6 support started as soon as 1.6 was – in our opinion – stable enough to actually start work on integrating it, quite a while before people started asking about it over here. There was no reluctancy in working out how to integrate 1.6 in Versions, only reluctancy in knowingly releasing a new build of Versions that introduced significant new problems – the ones Koen described in his post that started this thread – all of which are directly due to issues in SVN 1.6. Releasing an update to Versions that includes SVN 1.6 will result in a lot of people who don't necessarily need 1.6 right now to switch from 1.5 to 1.6, simply because it's the latest and greatest and it's just a click away. We prefer not to release broken things, hence the reluctancy to just ship it and the 'solution' of posting a beta here. There's no such thing as for people to use at their own risk when your business relies to a large extent on people recommending your products to others, but by only posting the build here, at least people who get it will know where to come to learn more about any problems they might run into. I don't agree with, but respect your opinion that the changes in 1.0.4b are underwhelming. It's a 1.0.x update, not a 1.x update, so yes, it is intended as a maintenance release, one that focusses on fixing bugs. Like we mentioned before on several occasions in this group, we are working on new features and bigger improvements too. For this release, taking care of a bunch of annoying bugs was more important to us, because those prevent people from using the application for its advertised purpose and feature set. Of the two ways we could make Versions more useful, we chose to prioritize on reliability first, new features are great too, but they had to wait. Please keep telling us what you expect from us, especially when you feel that we're not living up to it. I hope I've given a bit more insight in how we work. Thanks and sorry again for the rant :) - Dirk On Apr 28, 8:41 am, Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Apr, 22:36, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Exactly. Although these 1.6 issues are eating more time then we would like :-/ Up to version 1.0.3 you always released at least one version a month. Now almost five months have passed since then and you come out with a beta with a very unimpressive list of changes. You are blaming SVN 1.6 about that, while you apparently started to work on it reluctantly and only after significant pressure from the user base in the last month. With all due respect, I am a bit worried. I am happy with Versions, but I am starting to wonder whether significant development is still ongoing or it has already reached maintenance mode. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Dirk, I bought Versions in December, around the time 1.0.3 has been released, so I didn't follow what happened before. One thing I know is that one of the reasons I chosed Versions was that there had been several significant updates in the six previous months, showing that the software was very alive and actively maintained. But since I bought it, no more updates. Even if you started working on SVN 1.6 as soon as it was released, it's still four months (from December to March) without updates. That's why I'm worried. Just my opinion, Ganesh PS: and I just had to do a merge from the command line... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Hi Ganesh, I understand, and appreciate that you're taking the time to express your worries. :) All I can really add to what I said before is: don't worry, Versions is being developed very actively. Cheers, - Dirk On Apr 28, 3:49 pm, Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com wrote: Dirk, I bought Versions in December, around the time 1.0.3 has been released, so I didn't follow what happened before. One thing I know is that one of the reasons I chosed Versions was that there had been several significant updates in the six previous months, showing that the software was very alive and actively maintained. But since I bought it, no more updates. Even if you started working on SVN 1.6 as soon as it was released, it's still four months (from December to March) without updates. That's why I'm worried. Just my opinion, Ganesh PS: and I just had to do a merge from the command line... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Versions 1.0.4 Beta Hey everyone, A lot of people have been eager to get their hands on Versions with the Subversion libraries 1.6. We've been building and testing this over the last month, but we discovered some issues that kept us back from releasing it to the public. The biggest one is the leaking of processes when using Subversion over SSH (1). So we decided to do a public beta in the group, both to let the people who know what they are doing get their hands on it, and to determine whether it's ready for the big public. If you run into any problems, particularly when you use this build with the Subversion 1.6 libraries, please post about it here and we can figure out any remaining issues together. Thanks! Koen Bok - madebysofa.com Get it here: http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b_63.zip (1) http://lists.apple.com/archives/Xcode-users/2009/Mar/msg00443.html Note: Enabling Subversion 1.6 will upgrade your working copies. To downgrade again you will have to make a new checkout. Release Notes: Versions 1.0.4b (Build 62) - April 27 2009 - Added Subversion 1.6 support (version 1.6.1) - Upgraded Subversion 1.5 libraries to version 1.5.6 - Added support for authentication using SASL - Fixed diffing with BBEdit - Sorting files by name in the Browse view now works like it does in the Finder - Bookmarks are now also sorted correctly when accented characters are present in their names - Fixed a crash that occurred when the subversion config file contains errors that prevent it from being parsed correctly - Added an option to start Versions in “Verbose mode” to log all errors to the Console - An alert is now shown when there are problems retrieving or saving passwords from the Keychain. When it's not convenient to show an alert, the error is logged to the Console instead - Fixed an issue that was causing crash report windows to show up when Versions had not crashed - Added a “Quit Now” button to the “Waiting for transactions to finish...” window - Fixed bugs in registration that occured in very specific scenarios - Updated the Help documentation with an FAQ page - Made the column for revision numbers wider - Various other small improvements --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
Hey Ted, Exactly. Although these 1.6 issues are eating more time then we would like :-/ - Koen On Apr 27, 10:30 pm, TheDO webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: Exciting development, but should I assume this is only a stop-gap measure to keep the v1.6 people at bay? It's been a long time for what seems to be a minor upgrade for those of us not yet using 1.6. I'm happy with Versions in its current state, but would like to see some improvements to the interface, which you've stated you're working on (ie. the Commit sheet). Using Subversion 1.5.6, I did a commit of some changed files, and got an error that I've never seen before. [Apr 27, 13:22:58] Commit failed (details follow): No such transaction When I returned to Versions v1.0.3 and tried the same commit, I couldn't do the commit, but rather had to do an Update, at which point it merged the changes into my local files. Weird. ~Ted On Apr 27, 1:08 pm, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Versions 1.0.4 Beta Hey everyone, A lot of people have been eager to get their hands on Versions with the Subversion libraries 1.6. We've been building and testing this over the last month, but we discovered some issues that kept us back from releasing it to the public. The biggest one is the leaking of processes when using Subversion over SSH (1). So we decided to do a public beta in the group, both to let the people who know what they are doing get their hands on it, and to determine whether it's ready for the big public. If you run into any problems, particularly when you use this build with the Subversion 1.6 libraries, please post about it here and we can figure out any remaining issues together. Thanks! Koen Bok - madebysofa.com Get it here:http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b_63.zip (1)http://lists.apple.com/archives/Xcode-users/2009/Mar/msg00443.html Note: Enabling Subversion 1.6 will upgrade your working copies. To downgrade again you will have to make a new checkout. Release Notes: Versions 1.0.4b (Build 62) - April 27 2009 - Added Subversion 1.6 support (version 1.6.1) - Upgraded Subversion 1.5 libraries to version 1.5.6 - Added support for authentication using SASL - Fixed diffing with BBEdit - Sorting files by name in the Browse view now works like it does in the Finder - Bookmarks are now also sorted correctly when accented characters are present in their names - Fixed a crash that occurred when the subversion config file contains errors that prevent it from being parsed correctly - Added an option to start Versions in “Verbose mode” to log all errors to the Console - An alert is now shown when there are problems retrieving or saving passwords from the Keychain. When it's not convenient to show an alert, the error is logged to the Console instead - Fixed an issue that was causing crash report windows to show up when Versions had not crashed - Added a “Quit Now” button to the “Waiting for transactions to finish...” window - Fixed bugs in registration that occured in very specific scenarios - Updated the Help documentation with an FAQ page - Made the column for revision numbers wider - Various other small improvements --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
hi :) is it possible to translate versionapp? i could translate it to german... On 27 Apr., 22:36, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey Ted, Exactly. Although these 1.6 issues are eating more time then we would like :-/ - Koen On Apr 27, 10:30 pm, TheDO webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: Exciting development, but should I assume this is only a stop-gap measure to keep the v1.6 people at bay? It's been a long time for what seems to be a minor upgrade for those of us not yet using 1.6. I'm happy with Versions in its current state, but would like to see some improvements to the interface, which you've stated you're working on (ie. the Commit sheet). Using Subversion 1.5.6, I did a commit of some changed files, and got an error that I've never seen before. [Apr 27, 13:22:58] Commit failed (details follow): No such transaction When I returned to Versions v1.0.3 and tried the same commit, I couldn't do the commit, but rather had to do an Update, at which point it merged the changes into my local files. Weird. ~Ted On Apr 27, 1:08 pm, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Versions 1.0.4 Beta Hey everyone, A lot of people have been eager to get their hands on Versions with the Subversion libraries 1.6. We've been building and testing this over the last month, but we discovered some issues that kept us back from releasing it to the public. The biggest one is the leaking of processes when using Subversion over SSH (1). So we decided to do a public beta in the group, both to let the people who know what they are doing get their hands on it, and to determine whether it's ready for the big public. If you run into any problems, particularly when you use this build with the Subversion 1.6 libraries, please post about it here and we can figure out any remaining issues together. Thanks! Koen Bok - madebysofa.com Get it here:http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b_63.zip (1)http://lists.apple.com/archives/Xcode-users/2009/Mar/msg00443.html Note: Enabling Subversion 1.6 will upgrade your working copies. To downgrade again you will have to make a new checkout. Release Notes: Versions 1.0.4b (Build 62) - April 27 2009 - Added Subversion 1.6 support (version 1.6.1) - Upgraded Subversion 1.5 libraries to version 1.5.6 - Added support for authentication using SASL - Fixed diffing with BBEdit - Sorting files by name in the Browse view now works like it does in the Finder - Bookmarks are now also sorted correctly when accented characters are present in their names - Fixed a crash that occurred when the subversion config file contains errors that prevent it from being parsed correctly - Added an option to start Versions in “Verbose mode” to log all errors to the Console - An alert is now shown when there are problems retrieving or saving passwords from the Keychain. When it's not convenient to show an alert, the error is logged to the Console instead - Fixed an issue that was causing crash report windows to show up when Versions had not crashed - Added a “Quit Now” button to the “Waiting for transactions to finish...” window - Fixed bugs in registration that occured in very specific scenarios - Updated the Help documentation with an FAQ page - Made the column for revision numbers wider - Various other small improvements --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
The devs seem to have done a pretty decent job of breaking the app into a number of .nib files, and there is a resource for localized strings, but my first impression is that a bit more behind-the-scenes work remains to be done before localization can take place in earnest. Not only does everything in the app have to use localized strings, but it generally makes synchronizing changes much easier when the UI has settled down sufficiently. From the way the devs are describing their pending changes, my guess is that localization will come, but it will be much better if it comes after the major changes as yet in store. :-) - Quinn PS — João, I'd offer my services at Portuguese translation when the time comes, but you're much more adept than I. Perhaps if you do a pt- br localization I can help get the minor details right? Not that Portugal Portuguese is wrong, just different like English in the UK and USA. :-) On Apr 27, 2009, at 3:09 PM, WalleniuM wrote: hi :) is it possible to translate versionapp? i could translate it to german... On 27 Apr., 22:36, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey Ted, Exactly. Although these 1.6 issues are eating more time then we would like :-/ - Koen On Apr 27, 10:30 pm, TheDO webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: Exciting development, but should I assume this is only a stop-gap measure to keep the v1.6 people at bay? It's been a long time for what seems to be a minor upgrade for those of us not yet using 1.6. I'm happy with Versions in its current state, but would like to see some improvements to the interface, which you've stated you're working on (ie. the Commit sheet). Using Subversion 1.5.6, I did a commit of some changed files, and got an error that I've never seen before. [Apr 27, 13:22:58] Commit failed (details follow): No such transaction When I returned to Versions v1.0.3 and tried the same commit, I couldn't do the commit, but rather had to do an Update, at which point it merged the changes into my local files. Weird. ~Ted On Apr 27, 1:08 pm, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Versions 1.0.4 Beta Hey everyone, A lot of people have been eager to get their hands on Versions with the Subversion libraries 1.6. We've been building and testing this over the last month, but we discovered some issues that kept us back from releasing it to the public. The biggest one is the leaking of processes when using Subversion over SSH (1). So we decided to do a public beta in the group, both to let the people who know what they are doing get their hands on it, and to determine whether it's ready for the big public. If you run into any problems, particularly when you use this build with the Subversion 1.6 libraries, please post about it here and we can figure out any remaining issues together. Thanks! Koen Bok - madebysofa.com Get it here:http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b_63.zip (1)http://lists.apple.com/archives/Xcode-users/2009/Mar/msg00443.html Note: Enabling Subversion 1.6 will upgrade your working copies. To downgrade again you will have to make a new checkout. Release Notes: Versions 1.0.4b (Build 62) - April 27 2009 - Added Subversion 1.6 support (version 1.6.1) - Upgraded Subversion 1.5 libraries to version 1.5.6 - Added support for authentication using SASL - Fixed diffing with BBEdit - Sorting files by name in the Browse view now works like it does in the Finder - Bookmarks are now also sorted correctly when accented characters are present in their names - Fixed a crash that occurred when the subversion config file contains errors that prevent it from being parsed correctly - Added an option to start Versions in “Verbose mode” to log all errors to the Console - An alert is now shown when there are problems retrieving or saving passwords from the Keychain. When it's not convenient to show an alert, the error is logged to the Console instead - Fixed an issue that was causing crash report windows to show up when Versions had not crashed - Added a “Quit Now” button to the “Waiting for transactions to finish...” window - Fixed bugs in registration that occured in very specific scenarios - Updated the Help documentation with an FAQ page - Made the column for revision numbers wider - Various other small improvements --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Versions 1.0.4 Beta (Subversion 1.6 support)
To PT-BR, i'm here too! Obrigado. -- The Future Begins Today Em 27/04/2009, às 19:41, Quinn Taylor escreveu: The devs seem to have done a pretty decent job of breaking the app into a number of .nib files, and there is a resource for localized strings, but my first impression is that a bit more behind-the- scenes work remains to be done before localization can take place in earnest. Not only does everything in the app have to use localized strings, but it generally makes synchronizing changes much easier when the UI has settled down sufficiently. From the way the devs are describing their pending changes, my guess is that localization will come, but it will be much better if it comes after the major changes as yet in store. :-) - Quinn PS — João, I'd offer my services at Portuguese translation when the time comes, but you're much more adept than I. Perhaps if you do a pt-br localization I can help get the minor details right? Not that Portugal Portuguese is wrong, just different like English in the UK and USA. :-) On Apr 27, 2009, at 3:09 PM, WalleniuM wrote: hi :) is it possible to translate versionapp? i could translate it to german... On 27 Apr., 22:36, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey Ted, Exactly. Although these 1.6 issues are eating more time then we would like :-/ - Koen On Apr 27, 10:30 pm, TheDO webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: Exciting development, but should I assume this is only a stop-gap measure to keep the v1.6 people at bay? It's been a long time for what seems to be a minor upgrade for those of us not yet using 1.6. I'm happy with Versions in its current state, but would like to see some improvements to the interface, which you've stated you're working on (ie. the Commit sheet). Using Subversion 1.5.6, I did a commit of some changed files, and got an error that I've never seen before. [Apr 27, 13:22:58] Commit failed (details follow): No such transaction When I returned to Versions v1.0.3 and tried the same commit, I couldn't do the commit, but rather had to do an Update, at which point it merged the changes into my local files. Weird. ~Ted On Apr 27, 1:08 pm, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Versions 1.0.4 Beta Hey everyone, A lot of people have been eager to get their hands on Versions with the Subversion libraries 1.6. We've been building and testing this over the last month, but we discovered some issues that kept us back from releasing it to the public. The biggest one is the leaking of processes when using Subversion over SSH (1). So we decided to do a public beta in the group, both to let the people who know what they are doing get their hands on it, and to determine whether it's ready for the big public. If you run into any problems, particularly when you use this build with the Subversion 1.6 libraries, please post about it here and we can figure out any remaining issues together. Thanks! Koen Bok - madebysofa.com Get it here:http://cdn.versionsapp.com/Versions_1.0.4b_63.zip (1)http://lists.apple.com/archives/Xcode-users/2009/Mar/msg00443.html Note: Enabling Subversion 1.6 will upgrade your working copies. To downgrade again you will have to make a new checkout. Release Notes: Versions 1.0.4b (Build 62) - April 27 2009 - Added Subversion 1.6 support (version 1.6.1) - Upgraded Subversion 1.5 libraries to version 1.5.6 - Added support for authentication using SASL - Fixed diffing with BBEdit - Sorting files by name in the Browse view now works like it does in the Finder - Bookmarks are now also sorted correctly when accented characters are present in their names - Fixed a crash that occurred when the subversion config file contains errors that prevent it from being parsed correctly - Added an option to start Versions in “Verbose mode” to log all errors to the Console - An alert is now shown when there are problems retrieving or saving passwords from the Keychain. When it's not convenient to show an alert, the error is logged to the Console instead - Fixed an issue that was causing crash report windows to show up when Versions had not crashed - Added a “Quit Now” button to the “Waiting for transactions to finish...” window - Fixed bugs in registration that occured in very specific scenarios - Updated the Help documentation with an FAQ page - Made the column for revision numbers wider - Various other small improvements --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
On Apr 5, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: On 31 Mar, 00:03, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: (As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support for Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Subversion. That article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3 was released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN 1.2.3.) Look for the heading Xcode and Subversion. The first sentence says, literally: Support for Subversion is built into Xcode (version 1.5 and later). Ganesh That was the sentence I was referring to. As I mentioned, it means version 1.5+ of Xcode, not of Subversion. If it were meant as you interpret it, the sentence would instead read: Support for Subversion (version 1.5 and later) is built into Xcode. Leopard currently ships with Subversion 1.4.4, and Xcode works with it happily — as this 2005 article demonstrates, it also worked fine with Subversion 1.2.x. - Quinn smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Subversion 1.6
I think that reference is a bit obscure about the application it refers to, it could mean one of two things 1. that Xcode V1.5 plus has support for Subversion which it did i think 2. Xcode Supports Subversion 1.5+ which is correct but only after XCode 3.1.1 (if I remember correctly) as previous versions of xcode only supported subversion 1.4.4 This statement needs some clarification in my opinion but as its in the most recent documentation I suppose you could use the second argument that the Current version of xcode (V3.1.2) supports xcode 1.5+. This is not to say that installing later versions of subversion does not cause issues with xcode (If the libraries are not correctly linked or installed NONE of your subversion repositories will show up in xcode at all, causing much hair pulling and curses). No need to start a flame war ;) over a clarification issue. Just my 2 cents Kieren On 05/04/2009, at 10:17 PM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: On 31 Mar, 00:03, Quinn Taylor quinntay...@mac.com wrote: (As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support for Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Xcode. That article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3 was released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN 1.2.3.) (Of course I meant nothing about which version of Subversion.) Look for the heading Xcode and Subversion. The first sentence says, literally: Support for Subversion is built into Xcode (version 1.5 and later). Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
Hi Alberto, just to remind you, I consider myself humbly very dumb when doing stuff like using svn. I am but a simple historian, writing his thesis in LaTeX and keeping stuff in svn for obvious reasons. Though I have been able to stumble around in Terminal occasionally with varying results I prefer to use a GUI-based solution with the difficult stuff done for me under the hood. I know that this might mean a certain time-lag between what is possible and what is implemented or – in this case maybe – might be put into Versions via special prefences for the experienced like yourself. Regards, Rolf 2009/3/30 Alberto Ganesh Barbati albertobarb...@gmail.com … I think that providing an hidden feature is kind of stupid. Versions already warns you about possible incompatibility between 1.4.6 and 1.5.4. Just add another warning. If the user wants to shoot himself on the foot, just let him. Just my opinion, Ganesh -- Rolf Schmolling Historiker rolf.schmoll...@gmail.com http://rolf_schmolling.macbay.de/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
(As a note, I can't find anywhere on that link that backs up your claim. Midway down the page, it states that Xcode 1.5+ has support for Subversion built-in, but nothing about which version of Xcode. That article was last update at the end of 2005, right when SVN 1.3 was released, which is why the instructions detail installing SVN 1.2.3.) (Of course I meant nothing about which version of Subversion.) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Subversion 1.6
Hey TheDO, Generally the best way to build apps around other apps is to include their functionality with programming libraries they provide. That way you can access all the functions right in the programming language which has the least overhead and is usually less error prone. Another way to build an app like Versions would be communicating with the command line program. That means that you have to manually send text commands to the app and parse it's output (this is called piping). This way it would be possible to replace the binary that Versions communicates with, but as we would really rely on the input and output it will break easily. Plus, we could never get the app as fast as it is now. Hope that explains it :-) Koen On Mar 28, 9:58 pm, TheDO webmas...@thedigitalorchard.ca wrote: It's great to hear 1.6 support is coming. I want to put out my concern around the bundling of the subversion client into Versions.app, and not supporting external subversion clients. I know this has been discussed before, but can someone in the know remind me (and possibly others) why Versions is built this way? Is there something special about the built-in subversion client? Can't wait to see the next release of Versions. I'd be happy to join a beta-testing group, if you need some more help in that respect. On Mar 23, 4:50 am, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey guys, We're looking at adding 1.6 asap (just like we did with 1.5) but want to wait until we're sure it's stable enough. - Koen On Mar 23, 12:03 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
On 29 Mar, 13:18, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey TheDO, Generally the best way to build apps around other apps is to include their functionality with programming libraries they provide. That way you can access all the functions right in the programming language which has the least overhead and is usually less error prone. Another way to build an app like Versions would be communicating with the command line program. That means that you have to manually send text commands to the app and parse it's output (this is called piping). This way it would be possible to replace the binary that Versions communicates with, but as we would really rely on the input and output it will break easily. Plus, we could never get the app as fast as it is now. Hope that explains it :-) You are missing the point. No-one has ever thought of using the command line, given that Subversions ships with a very nice set of dynamic libraries. The point of TheDO was that Version is currently shipped with two sets of such dynamic libraries, one for v1.4.6 and one for v1.5.4. You can select the set you prefer and Versions will use that one. That's nice. However, on my machine I have installed in / usr/lib Subversion v1.5.6 so that I can happily use it in XCode. But Version is stuck with v1.5.4. I believe it is perfectly feasible to have a preference in Version to make it use the libraries in /usr/lib instead of the one shipped with Versions. If we had that, I could just install the v1.6 libraries in / usr/lib and we wouldn't need to wait for the next update of Versions to use them. Just my opinion, Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
It's great to hear 1.6 support is coming. I want to put out my concern around the bundling of the subversion client into Versions.app, and not supporting external subversion clients. I know this has been discussed before, but can someone in the know remind me (and possibly others) why Versions is built this way? Is there something special about the built-in subversion client? Can't wait to see the next release of Versions. I'd be happy to join a beta-testing group, if you need some more help in that respect. On Mar 23, 4:50 am, Koen Bok k...@madebysofa.com wrote: Hey guys, We're looking at adding 1.6 asap (just like we did with 1.5) but want to wait until we're sure it's stable enough. - Koen On Mar 23, 12:03 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
ok I make no claims that this wont break your installation. Make sure you have installed Subversion 1.6 first, weird side effects are not my fault. I have browsed, imported and checked out so far but YMMV here is the link to my blog post http://blindgenius.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/subversion-16-xcode-312-versions/ HTH Kez On 23/03/2009, at 2:03 PM, Adam wrote: That would be great, Kez. Running into issues with 1.6 compatibility, too. — @dam -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Adam Balasis | adam.bala...@gmail.com -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Sergeant Comely was working on the general assumption that where you got lots of people gathered together, something illegal was bound to happen sooner or later. — (Terry Pratchett, Johnny and the Dead) On Mar 21, 10:25 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: I have just upgraded subversion to 1.6 and Versions and xcode works fine (after some minor tweaks). I can post the fixes if you like? Regards Kez On 22/03/2009, at 10:07 AM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: Are there plans about supporting Subversion 1.6? Please notice that I am not requesting support of the 1.6 specific features (although that would be welcome, of course). I would be happy to just have the same set of features Versions has, but use a 1.6 client. That's because the format of the working copies has changed once again from 1.5.x to 1.6 and I would like to remain interoperable with other tools that might use 1.6. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Subversion 1.6
Hey guys, We're looking at adding 1.6 asap (just like we did with 1.5) but want to wait until we're sure it's stable enough. - Koen On Mar 23, 12:03 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: ok I make no claims that this wont break your installation. Make sure you have installed Subversion 1.6 first, weird side effects are not my fault. I have browsed, imported and checked out so far but YMMV here is the link to my blog posthttp://blindgenius.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/subversion-16-xcode-312-v... HTH Kez On 23/03/2009, at 2:03 PM, Adam wrote: That would be great, Kez. Running into issues with 1.6 compatibility, too. — @dam -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Adam Balasis | adam.bala...@gmail.com -==-==-==-==-==-==-==- Sergeant Comely was working on the general assumption that where you got lots of people gathered together, something illegal was bound to happen sooner or later. — (Terry Pratchett, Johnny and the Dead) On Mar 21, 10:25 pm, Kez circle...@gmail.com wrote: I have just upgraded subversion to 1.6 and Versions and xcode works fine (after some minor tweaks). I can post the fixes if you like? Regards Kez On 22/03/2009, at 10:07 AM, Alberto Ganesh Barbati wrote: Are there plans about supporting Subversion 1.6? Please notice that I am not requesting support of the 1.6 specific features (although that would be welcome, of course). I would be happy to just have the same set of features Versions has, but use a 1.6 client. That's because the format of the working copies has changed once again from 1.5.x to 1.6 and I would like to remain interoperable with other tools that might use 1.6. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Subversion 1.6
Are there plans about supporting Subversion 1.6? Please notice that I am not requesting support of the 1.6 specific features (although that would be welcome, of course). I would be happy to just have the same set of features Versions has, but use a 1.6 client. That's because the format of the working copies has changed once again from 1.5.x to 1.6 and I would like to remain interoperable with other tools that might use 1.6. Ganesh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Versions group. To post to this group, send email to versions@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
