[videoblogging] dh vblog?
hi all so, this is a video blog? um, where is date of entry? trackback? text? comments? this is video on a web page that has some RSS If i viewed this in two weeks would week1, 2, etc have same content, and which week in which year would that be from? Though I imagine this is a question for the theory list :-) -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Someone has a monkey
I know she has a deep concern for environmental issues. She has appeared in many of the L.A. alternative publications concerning the veggie oil cars and planet sustainability. I feel she is sincere. It does however portend a wave to come of celebrities who discover vlogging. Or their PR agents, managers, scumbags and whatnot. I can see if an performer wanted to sell a select performance or have a special communication with fans and supporters it could be a direct profit center for them. Or an immediate ego stroke. The entertaiment machine could churn out crud video in a heartbeat. That is a condition to expect. It is gonna happen. But if vlogging can embrace Tom Green then it can survive anything. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] dh vblog?
probably more accurately a video podcast, eh? -Josh On 5/8/06, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all so, this is a video blog? um, where is date of entry? trackback? text? comments? this is video on a web page that has some RSS If i viewed this in two weeks would week1, 2, etc have same content, and which week in which year would that be from? Though I imagine this is a question for the theory list :-) -- cheers Adrian Miles this email is bloggable [ ] ask first [ ] private [x] hypertext.RMIT URL:http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/admin/briefEmail.html Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: how to use vpip onm blogger!?!
That looks good for referencing the vPIP _javascript_ file. The next
step is to use the hVlog format for your video entries.
Unfortunately, vPIP does not yet support .fla files, so you'll need to
use the avi file you uploaded to blip.tv instead.
You can use the Generate vPIP HTML code helper app to create the
hVlog format. It's available at
http://utilities.cinegage.com/videos-playing-in-place/#Usage
Click on the image for it, and it'll pop-up. Then select Windows
Media and put in the blip.tv avi file:
http://www.blip.tv/file/get/Ninelow99-MyDriveToSchool225.avi
and the image file:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6248/2872/320/for%20movie%20driving%20to%20school.0.jpg
and click the [Generate Code] button. Then click the [Copy to
Clipboard] button. Then paste the code in Blogger where you write the
blog entry.
This is the code for your last video:
===
div class=hVlog align=center
a
href="" href="http://www.blip.tv/file/get/Ninelow99-MyDriveToSchool225.avi">http://www.blip.tv/file/get/Ninelow99-MyDriveToSchool225.avi
rel=enclosure type=video/x-msvideo '');
return false;
img
src="" href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6248/2872/320/for%20movie%20driving%20to%20school.0.jpg">http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6248/2872/320/for%20movie%20driving%20to%20school.0.jpg
/
/a
br / a
href="" href="http://www.blip.tv/file/get/Ninelow99-MyDriveToSchool225.avi">http://www.blip.tv/file/get/Ninelow99-MyDriveToSchool225.avi
rel=enclosure type=video/x-msvideo '');
return false;Watch Video/a
/div
===
If this is a bit involved, you may want to try David Meade's script:
http://www.davidmeade.com/resources/media_test.php
-- Enric
-==-
http://www.cirne.com
http://www.cinegage.com
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ninelow99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
wow thanks! but hey i tryed doing this. I took the link and HTML set
you gave me and i put it here, this is a small clip of my HTMl does
this look right? The reason that i ask is i put it in my tmeplat and
the videos still dont inbed them selvs. My videos our hosted at
blitp.tv. Is that the reason? tokyojosh.blogspot.com
/* Footer
--- */
#footer {
width:660px;
clear:both;
margin:0 auto;
}
#footer hr {
display:none;
}
#footer p {
margin:0;
padding-top:15px;
font:78%/1.6em Trebuchet MS,Trebuchet,Verdana,Sans-serif;
text-transform:uppercase;
letter-spacing:.1em;
}
/style
script src="" href="http://vlogassist.com/vpip0.13/vpip.js">http://vlogassist.com/vpip0.13/vpip.js
type=text/_javascript_/script
/head
body
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Re: [videoblogging] Does iMovie export .mov files, or do you need QT Pro?
Title: Re: [videoblogging] Does iMovie export .mov files, or Thanks, all. Figured it out. Haven't set up my blog yet, but wanted to experiment with uploading to Google. Here's the sort of thing I'm going to be featuring, along with more diary-like video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-661064422670425981q=presidential Thanks again. JJ We've got a whole video tutorial at Freevlog: http://freevlog.org/tutorial/#compress Click the iMovie link. -Verdi On 5/7/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nope, just use the expert settings in imovie movie to quicktime movie and then the mpeg4 converter... that should work just fine On 5/7/06, cruzyogadude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get iMovie to export .mov files, but when I use the save to quicktime function I get these .dv files instead.I can muck about in expert settings and save to an MPEG-4, but I can't produce a .mov file.Do I need to buy QT Pro? Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- Author of the book Secrets Of Videoblogging Me -- http://michaelverdi.com Learn to videoblog -- http://freevlog.org I'm Going To Vloggercon, June 10 11 -- http://vloggercon.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: How can i host Vpip and which is a better host bluehost.com or dreamhost.com
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but... Bluehost offers only 6 domains and 400 GB/month. Dreamhost offers unlimited domains and 1,000 GB/month. No comparison there. -Matt http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fwiw, they seem to be improving they recently announced that they are now offering 24/7 support it used to be a real bummer if your site went down on the weekend or at night in the US drpoulette wrote: Markus, That's strange. I have had good experiences with bluehosts support. I hear back from them right away when I have support questions. Maybe I've just gotten lucky. Dennis ymimexico.org/vlog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy markus@ wrote: i have both bluehost and dreamhost dreamhost has been much faster and far more reliable than bluehost. bluehost has been a nightmare. worst support ever. lots of email problems. lots of downtime. their email is blocked by a lot of services. once i asked why i can't send email to anyone at aol and bluehost support said that aol had blocked them for too much spam. judging from the over 20 comments left on my vlog about their poor support, apparently lot's of folks feel the same: http://apperceive.blogs.com/apperceive/2005/07/bluehost_email_.html http://apperceive.blogs.com/apperceive/2005/06/copywrite_cody.html ninelow99 wrote: I have the Vpip and the web sight to DL it. My prob is im not sure how to get it onto the internet so i can use it in my www.blogger.com account! Also Which is better bluehost.com or dreamhost.com I need a web page that has pretty easy edeting tools since im not that advanced. All i really want to do is host my vids and pics. which one do you or would you use?!?! Thanks guys!! Yahoo! Groups Links . -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Links -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Podcast Day 2006 - Send in photos.
My friend Nicole Simon asked me to send this notice along to you guys. They're asking for photos that represent your videoblogs/podcasts to feature on Podcast Day 2006 in Germany. Her email: Promote your podcast at Podcastday 2006! As we would like to show the variety of Podcasting to the visitors we came up with the idea of a Podcast Cover slideshow. Do you have a podcast? Send us a picture of it! It can be your Itunes-Cover, text lines, a photo of you or all together! The picture itself should be maximum of 800×600. Please send the file/a link to it to: nicole.simon [at] podcastday2006.com latest 19th of May. http://podcastday2006.com/en/ Thanks! Zadi http://smashface.com/vlog SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Small steps in March on Poverty
I have actually offered to help and have on a few occasions, they do have their own website, a donor is providing the service free of charge, they are very connected, the thing with me is that for the most part my stuff is fluff, just silly goofy stuff, because that is me most of the time, but I do care about certain issues and I would like to talk about it but I don't know where that would fit on my current vlog, as most of the people who come there are just looking for a laugh, which I am fine with, I like to laugh myself. But I have been toying with the idea of making my vlog site more well rounded but I am not sure how to go about it., not without creating a whole new vlog site, I would like something like a 'regular page that would be my main page that would link to my other sites so that way it would be more managible, but I am still pretty new to html and stuff, just feeling my way around all this so...I like the idea of doing more not just sure how to do that just yet Heath - The Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heath, why don't create one or two vlog posts? You could make an evergreen vlog page that they could refer to for a variety of purposes. Get them to write up content. It doesn't have to be much. Point the camera at some of the ring leaders and get them talking. Do a little snip, snip, upload and post. I don't live in your area but this is the kind of thing that if a non-profit that I trusted and believed in asked I'd do it. It doesn't take that much time. Now it is *really important* to set up limits. Make it clear that you are not the free video person for everything that they want recorded. Hate to break it to ya but you are the appointed messenger. Unless you can rope or teach other folks to do it. In the name of Vicki Vale, I salute you. Turbines to power, engines to speed baby. Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] beachwalks.tv helps natavillage.org
Hello videoblogging group,I just wanted to publicly say thank you Rox (beachwalks.tv) for including our Nata village project (natavillage.org) not only on her site but in her latest VIDEOBLOG! http://www.beachwalks.tv/2006/05/07/beach-walk-76-aloha-to-africa/Typepad has also just featured our blog: http://featured.typepad.com/blogs/2006/05/the_nata_villag.htmlThank you so much Rox and Typepad.com!!! We really appreciate all the support!Cheers,JON.natavillage.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon 43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39 David Meade 36 Markus Sandy 35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi 27 Andy Carvin 27 Casey McKinnon 24 robert a/k/a r 23 Anne Walk 21 Harold Johnson 20 Josh Leo 19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric 17 David Howell 17 Jen Simmons 17 Stephanie Bryant 16 andrew michael baron 15 Andreas Haugstrup 13 B Yen 13 Bill Streeter 13 Susan 12 Gena 12 Heath 11 jonny goldstein 11 usadutch2001 10 Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique Danielle The point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com Hi Matt, Seven percent is actually pretty good for an email list of more than 1,000 people. A few years ago I saw a study of email lists that suggested the number of regular contributors was often less than five percent. Most lists tend to be dominated by a core 1% of users, with another five percent posting occasionally, another 10 percent posting rarely, and the rest pretty much never - the classic contributor/lurker divide. I've been running a couple of e-lists for a long time (wwwedu for 12 years, digitaldivide for six) and I'd guess that the participation level is about the same. Some people have posted multiple times a week for years, while others have been on the list from the beginning and they've never posted. When I've surveyed them, the response is always the same - I enjoy the conversation but never feel the need to comment publicly. Having said that, I'm shocked I'm in the top 10 contributors. I always thought of myself as a lurker on this list. It's all relative, I guess. andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon 43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39 David Meade 36 Markus Sandy 35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi 27 Andy Carvin 27 Casey McKinnon 24 robert a/k/a r 23 Anne Walk 21 Harold Johnson 20 Josh Leo 19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric 17 David Howell 17 Jen Simmons 17 Stephanie Bryant 16 andrew michael baron 15 Andreas Haugstrup 13 B Yen 13 Bill Streeter 13 Susan 12 Gena 12 Heath 11 jonny goldstein 11 usadutch2001 10 Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique Danielle The point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
I hate to say this, but I think that a message board format may come in handy to keep one community with separate groups/cliquesBut ideally it would be great to have an email or RSS feature also... I want to be able to keep up with things going on but i don't want to have to visit a message board every day... right now we have multiple groups (languages, content, theory, node101, fireant, etc...) I think that one space with divisions is better than multiple spaces... and it may be less intimidating for newbies...but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... hmmm anyway... those are my thoughtsOn 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of thisYahoo Group.Here are the results...The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April20, 2006 (18.5 days)...Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts...80Michael Sullivan50Devlon43Charles Iliya Krempeaux39David Meade36Markus Sandy35Deirdre Straughan34Michael Verdi 27Andy Carvin27Casey McKinnon24robert a/k/a r23Anne Walk21Harold Johnson20Josh Leo19Joshua Kinberg18Enric17David Howell17Jen Simmons 17Stephanie Bryant16andrew michael baron15Andreas Haugstrup13B Yen13Bill Streeter13Susan12Gena12Heath11jonny goldstein11usadutch2001 10Ted Tagami9 Chuck Olsen9 Paul Knight9 Steve Garfield8 Jan8 LeanBackVids.com8 Mike Hudack8 WWWhatsup7 Josh Wolf7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J...6 Adam Quirk6 Jay dedman6 Mike Moon6 missbhavens19696 Nathan Freitas6 Ron Watson6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia5 greendesertpro5 Michael Meiser5 Monique DanielleThe point of all this?To validate my concerns...It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world.Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly,but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participatingmembers since last year.There must be a way to bridge the gapbetween all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, Ican analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same.-Matt--- http://vlogmap.orghttp://ridertech.comhttp://leanbackvids.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now.http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
Yeah, I think I agree with Josh. I think part of the issue is the volume of traffic in this list can be daunting. New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-PA forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great. If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good:FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise)Events and Meetups Videoblogging in the newsCameras and HardwareEditing and CompressionBlogs and HostingRSS and PublicationAggregators and ReadersOther Support / Technical Help Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!)Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights you violate.) Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.)The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.) General / Off Topic chit chat.Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Davehttp://www.davidmeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] my trip to America
Most importantly, what is a chocolate pocket?... always culturally sensitive ... RichardOn 5/6/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hi all,Just a small question, as you may be aware I am gonna be at Vloggercon this year and I am traveling all the way from the UK, thisis not the problem, nor is the jet-lag.No nothings as benign or small.Just I have heard that I need a Bio-metric passport to enter the states.Does anyone know that this is true as my current passportisn't bio-metric.Is this true?Do I need a Bio-metric passport tovisit or what, has anyone flown from the uk to the states recentlywithout or what? Need to know, the US Embassy is website is a bout as much use as achocolate pocket in a sock.Paul Knight(pjkproductions) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now.http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I was a lurker a long time because the technical level was byond my comfort. I bet there are a lot of lurkers just enjoying every conversation. I think this groups must stay the way it is, a discussion group. And to answers Josh question, I did try to plug a forum with RSS feed, email-messaging with new topics, embeded video, and lots of functions you will not find in other forums that are geared towards our media. But the result? Just 14 member and 2 Yes 2 posts from others. I have no clue how to get people more involved and what the setup must be. And what about Vlogchallenge? A great oportunity for vloggers to explore new things.. Try some new ideas but there is no participation. Should we start over and call vlogging something else like Vlogcasting? Now up my number with 1 again. :) Blips http://vlogassist.com http://vlogmatic.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to say this, but I think that a message board format may come in handy to keep one community with separate groups/cliques But ideally it would be great to have an email or RSS feature also... I want to be able to keep up with things going on but i don't want to have to visit a message board every day... right now we have multiple groups (languages, content, theory, node101, fireant, etc...) I think that one space with divisions is better than multiple spaces... and it may be less intimidating for newbies... but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... hmmm anyway... those are my thoughts On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon 43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39 David Meade 36 Markus Sandy 35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi 27 Andy Carvin 27 Casey McKinnon 24 robert a/k/a r 23 Anne Walk 21 Harold Johnson 20 Josh Leo 19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric 17 David Howell 17 Jen Simmons 17 Stephanie Bryant 16 andrew michael baron 15 Andreas Haugstrup 13 B Yen 13 Bill Streeter 13 Susan 12 Gena 12 Heath 11 jonny goldstein 11 usadutch2001 10 Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique Danielle The point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
on a related note, dumping Yahoo! would probably be a good idea. Supporting a company that has released private information to the chinese gov't that has led to journalists getting 10 years in prison sort of makes me ill. On 5/9/06, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh. I think part of the issue is the volume of traffic in this list can be daunting. New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-PA forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great. If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good:FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise)Events and Meetups Videoblogging in the newsCameras and HardwareEditing and CompressionBlogs and HostingRSS and PublicationAggregators and ReadersOther Support / Technical Help Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!)Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights you violate.) Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.)The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.) General / Off Topic chit chat.Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- twhidwww.mteww.com/twhid SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
David; Exactly what is going on at VlogAssist.com it is so close to your list and YES is has RSS for members to subscribe to every topic or to choosen topics. Maybe a little tweak to the topics and its a done deal. Blips http://vlogassist.com Vlogging resources http:/vlogmatic.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh. I think part of the issue is the volume of traffic in this list can be daunting. New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-P A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great. If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good: - FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise) - Events and Meetups - Videoblogging in the news - Cameras and Hardware - Editing and Compression - Blogs and Hosting - RSS and Publication - Aggregators and Readers - Other Support / Technical Help - Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!) - Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights you violate.) - Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.) - The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.) - General / Off Topic chit chat. - Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
ok just a warning... let's not start the what shall we call it conversation again... if we as a community want to use a forum instead of the list, a lot of changes need to happen and a lot of habits need to change... how would we make a group of thousands switch? On 5/9/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was a lurker a long time because the technical level was byond mycomfort. I bet there are a lot of lurkers just enjoying everyconversation.I think this groups must stay the way it is, a discussion group. And to answers Josh question, I did try to plug a forum with RSS feed,email-messaging with new topics, embeded video, and lots of functionsyou will not find in other forums that are geared towards our media. But the result? Just 14 member and 2 Yes 2 posts from others.I have no clue how to get people more involved and what the setup must be.And what about Vlogchallenge? A great oportunity for vloggers to explore new things.. Try some new ideas but there is no participation.Should we start over and call vlogging something else like Vlogcasting?Now up my number with 1 again. :)Blips http://vlogassist.comhttp://vlogmatic.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate to say this, but I think that a message board format may come in handy to keep one community with separate groups/cliques But ideally it would be great to have an email or RSS feature also... I want to be able to keep up with things going on but i don't want to haveto visit a message board every day... right now we have multiple groups(languages, content, theory, node101, fireant, etc...) I think that one space with divisions is better than multiplespaces... and it may be less intimidating for newbies... but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... hmmm anyway... those are my thoughts On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group.Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80Michael Sullivan 50Devlon 43Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39David Meade 36Markus Sandy 35Deirdre Straughan 34Michael Verdi 27Andy Carvin 27Casey McKinnon 24robert a/k/a r 23Anne Walk 21Harold Johnson 20Josh Leo 19Joshua Kinberg 18Enric 17David Howell 17Jen Simmons 17Stephanie Bryant 16andrew michael baron 15Andreas Haugstrup 13B Yen 13Bill Streeter 13Susan 12Gena 12Heath 11jonny goldstein 11usadutch2001 10Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique Danielle The point of all this?To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world.Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year.There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com Yahoo! Groups Links-- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Plug? HAHAHA! I try to do good an get accused of bad - thanks. Considering most vloggers haven't even attempted to claim their vlog listing on the new VlogMap, I'm not really concerned about plugging the forums. I'll admit, I thought adding forums to VlogMap would be an added service. The goal was to provide another connection point for international vloggers and those interested in video blogging. However, the reality is that VlogMap gets 80-90% non-vlogger traffic. Most people come from searching Google, yet they still seem to be confused about what vlogging is. Many of the visitors are from outside the US. Many are visiting to find videos. Most are not vloggers. That does provide a good opportunity for those listed to reap traffic. Andy Carvin has mapped a ton of videos and has probably seen a slight increase in traffic. Anyways, I'm not sure how to continue... it is hard to develop tools for the community (minority) yet focus on the viewers (majority). That being said, the future of VlogMap is in the community's hands. If users don't add vlogs/geovlogs then it will go stale. If users don't moderate the listings, it may get filled w/ junk. As for the forums and handbook, they may get pulled down since nobody is using them. Participating would plug yourself. VlogMap operates on a $0 budget and makes $0. My only goal is to better the community and provide useful/fun tools for vloggers. Sorry that is seen as a plug. -Matt --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Awesome, Blips. I've been there a few times but didnt see an RSS button. Is there a public feed?I guess from David's Perfect World, the feed would be public - anyone could view the topics, but they'd have to be members to post/reply (just like the yahoo group) - DaveOn 5/9/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David;Exactly what is going on at VlogAssist.com it is so close to your listand YES is has RSS for members to subscribe to every topic or tochoosen topics.Maybe a little tweak to the topics and its a done deal. Blipshttp://vlogassist.com Vlogging resourceshttp:/vlogmatic.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh.I think part of the issue is thevolume of traffic in this list can be daunting.New folks become lurkersbecause they cant possible catch/keep up :-P A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and themore brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great.If wecould have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still seeeverything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good:- FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise)- Events and Meetups- Videoblogging in the news - Cameras and Hardware- Editing and Compression- Blogs and Hosting- RSS and Publication- Aggregators and Readers- Other Support / Technical Help - Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!)- Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights youviolate.)- Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.)- The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.)- General / Off Topic chit chat.- Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free.See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Sad thing is that I don't think it is a matter of a space being created as much as it is the group movement to use that space... A good forum on freevlog.org, node101.org, videoblogging.info with the support of everyone...I hate to say it, but if we were to decide to abandon yahoo, we would need the big names to start pointing everyone to the forum, all the vlog-blogs, the tutorials, the meetups, the presentations, software pages, services, and sidebar links need to support a change... not just someone saying hey i made this come over here On 5/9/06, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David;Exactly what is going on at VlogAssist.com it is so close to your listand YES is has RSS for members to subscribe to every topic or tochoosen topics.Maybe a little tweak to the topics and its a done deal. Blipshttp://vlogassist.com Vlogging resourceshttp:/vlogmatic.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh.I think part of the issue is thevolume of traffic in this list can be daunting.New folks become lurkersbecause they cant possible catch/keep up :-P A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and themore brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great.If wecould have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still seeeverything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good:- FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise)- Events and Meetups- Videoblogging in the news - Cameras and Hardware- Editing and Compression- Blogs and Hosting- RSS and Publication- Aggregators and Readers- Other Support / Technical Help - Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!)- Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights youviolate.)- Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.)- The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.)- General / Off Topic chit chat.- Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free.See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
hey matt, some random thoughts ... 1. it seems like we are dealing with an 90-10 or 80-20 type rules here. not surprising really. i disagree that there is a method (or a need) to bridge this gap. it appears normal and natural to me. 2. considering the relatively small window of data, one should only consider the percentages and not the individual data points (i.e., if you choose another 18.5 day period , you'll get similar percentages, but different people). Note that there are very vocal people over the past year who are obviously missing from your list solely because of the time period chosen. 3. this does not take into account the nature of the messages analyzed. many are merely informative and not necessarily opinion. i imagine that the issues you are concerned about center mainly around opinions. of course many messages mix both option and fact. 4. i think your conclusions are unsupported by the 'stats' you present. you are also carrying out biased research: you have a preconceived notion and you are looking for data to back it up. i recommend a more scientific approach. 5. your data presents a very one-dimensional view of the situation. you do not appear to be measuring how members of this group are interacting with others outside of this forum (i.e., this mail list is just one of many mechanisms that we employ; I routinely communicate with many active videobloggers who are on the list but rarely or never send emails.). An obvious point: a lot of folks here have vlogs and use those as their *primary* means of communication. markus LeanBackVids.com wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon 43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39 David Meade 36 Markus Sandy 35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi 27 Andy Carvin 27 Casey McKinnon 24 robert a/k/a r 23 Anne Walk 21 Harold Johnson 20 Josh Leo 19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric 17 David Howell 17 Jen Simmons 17 Stephanie Bryant 16 andrew michael baron 15 Andreas Haugstrup 13 B Yen 13 Bill Streeter 13 Susan 12 Gena 12 Heath 11 jonny goldstein 11 usadutch2001 10 Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique Danielle The point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I'm just messin with ya Matt...I plan on geovlogging a lot more of my videos...does vlogmap get found a lot by the people searching for things like nude vlog 'Naked cat videos etc cause I know that I get a lot of that kind of traffic... in addition to all the people searching for how to peel a mango and hitler's eagles nest... On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plug? HAHAHA!I try to do good an get accused of bad - thanks.Considering most vloggers haven't even attempted to claim their vloglisting on the new VlogMap, I'm not really concerned about pluggingthe forums. I'll admit, I thought adding forums to VlogMap would be an addedservice.The goal was to provide another connection point forinternational vloggers and those interested in video blogging.However, the reality is that VlogMap gets 80-90% non-vlogger traffic. Most people come from searching Google, yet they still seem to beconfused about what vlogging is.Many of the visitors are from outside the US.Many are visiting tofind videos.Most are not vloggers.That does provide a good opportunity for those listed to reap traffic.Andy Carvin has mappeda ton of videos and has probably seen a slight increase in traffic.Anyways, I'm not sure how to continue... it is hard to develop tools for the community (minority) yet focus on the viewers (majority).That being said, the future of VlogMap is in the community's hands.If users don't add vlogs/geovlogs then it will go stale.If usersdon't moderate the listings, it may get filled w/ junk. As for the forums and handbook, they may get pulled down since nobodyis using them.Participating would plug yourself.VlogMap operateson a $0 budget and makes $0.My only goal is to better the community and provide useful/fun tools for vloggers.Sorry that is seen as a plug.-Matt--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmapforums... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
that thought hit me too i'm sure blips will jump in on that topic too ;) Josh Leo wrote: but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... hmmm -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Meet The Vloggers: June 9th SF Apple Store
Hi Ryanne, We are working to get ourselves to VloggerCon and would love to present re: Beach Walks with Rox. Can you please put us on your list and I will confirm with you as soon as I can? Thank you so much for setting this up! Aloha, Rox On 5/8/06, ryanne hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all i secured time at the apple store on the eve of June 9th 6-8pm for a Meet The Vloggers presentation! I would like some folks who have never presented at the Apple store (and want to) to please let me know and i'll put you on the roster (along with folks who have too of course...but we need FRESH blood!) nothing complicated just your story, how you found this, what you do, show a video. we'll also be making time to do a quick demo on how to get video up there and on a blog. so let me know if you want to present PLEASE REPLY DIRECTLY TO ME as well as the list so i definately get it in my unfiltered inbox thanks!! -ryanne -- VLOGGERCON-June 10-11 San Francisco! http://vloggercon.com me: http://ryanedit.com educate: http://freevlog.org, http://node101.org videos i want you to see: http://revlog.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
as they say: "no good deed goes unpunished" ;) LeanBackVids.com wrote: Plug? HAHAHA! I try to do good an get accused of bad - thanks. -Matt --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Josh Leo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
It's the classic 80/20 rule, some may come to the site to join just to plug something and then you never hear from them again, some are daunted by the tech know how, some may just enjoy the ranting of a bunch of slightly off persons. :) But I know I would like a more type of forum thing and I do remember you plugging the forums you created, I think for some it may be that they don't want to have to travel to different sites, once they are hear. I think some of the issue with the forum idea that you had, was who else was plugging it? Was there a link on freevlog, and vloggercon or even in this group on the main page. I know that I would like something like a forum listing, (I meant to go back to yours but it got lost in the suffle) where various topics could be addressed rather quickly and easily, David's was pretty good I thought, and from what I remember usadutch2001's was pretty cool looking I don't know people are lurkers by nature I think, only the alphas have the thick skin to withstand some of the heat that comes with this group sometimes :) That and to be honest most of the time what really gets this group going is very techie issues and ideas that I think that most of the users on this group have NO IDEA what you guys and gals are talking aboutI know it is over my head sometimes...ok most of the time. Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.co, --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was a lurker a long time because the technical level was byond my comfort. I bet there are a lot of lurkers just enjoying every conversation. I think this groups must stay the way it is, a discussion group. And to answers Josh question, I did try to plug a forum with RSS feed, email-messaging with new topics, embeded video, and lots of functions you will not find in other forums that are geared towards our media. But the result? Just 14 member and 2 Yes 2 posts from others. I have no clue how to get people more involved and what the setup must be. And what about Vlogchallenge? A great oportunity for vloggers to explore new things.. Try some new ideas but there is no participation. Should we start over and call vlogging something else like Vlogcasting? Now up my number with 1 again. :) Blips http://vlogassist.com http://vlogmatic.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: I hate to say this, but I think that a message board format may come in handy to keep one community with separate groups/cliques But ideally it would be great to have an email or RSS feature also... I want to be able to keep up with things going on but i don't want to have to visit a message board every day... right now we have multiple groups (languages, content, theory, node101, fireant, etc...) I think that one space with divisions is better than multiple spaces... and it may be less intimidating for newbies... but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... hmmm anyway... those are my thoughts On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com leanbackvids@ wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon 43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39 David Meade 36 Markus Sandy 35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi 27 Andy Carvin 27 Casey McKinnon 24 robert a/k/a r 23 Anne Walk 21 Harold Johnson 20 Josh Leo 19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric 17 David Howell 17 Jen Simmons 17 Stephanie Bryant 16 andrew michael baron 15 Andreas Haugstrup 13 B Yen 13 Bill Streeter 13 Susan 12 Gena 12 Heath 11 jonny goldstein 11 usadutch2001 10 Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique Danielle The point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On 5/9/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok just a warning... let's not start the what shall we call it conversation again... if we as a community want to use a forum instead of the list, a lot of changes need to happen and a lot of habits need to change... how would we make a group of thousands switch? For a while anyway, both would surely co-exist. But if such a forum system had an easy public RSS feed ... there's no reason the group of thousands couldnt subscribe to it ... the usage would naturally move over time to which ever turned out the be most used in actual practice. Such an RSS feed could also be used with any of the rss-email services to give a nearly identical feel to our current system. (with the exception of actual posting would have to be done via the web) -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
I do think that it would be useful to have a nice searchable database of commonly asked questions that new vloggers ask. a forum could lend itself to this. but part of me thinks... why can't we reinvent the forum to fit our needs and desires. we have so much design knowledge in this group, why can't we make something that works for US!? On 5/9/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey matt,some random thoughts ...1. it seems like we are dealing with an 90-10 or80-20 type ruleshere.notsurprising really.i disagree that there is a method (or aneed) to bridge this gap. it appears normal and natural to me. 2. considering the relatively small window of data,one should onlyconsider the percentages and not the individual data points (i.e., ifyou choose another18.5 day period , you'll get similar percentages, but different people).Note that there are very vocal people over thepast year who are obviously missing from your list solely because of thetime period chosen.3. thisdoes not take into accountthe nature of the messages analyzed.many are merely informative and not necessarily opinion.iimagine that the issues you are concerned about center mainly aroundopinions. of course many messages mix both option and fact.4. i think your conclusions are unsupported by the 'stats' you present. you are also carrying out biased research: you have apreconceived notion and you are looking for data to back it up. irecommenda more scientific approach.5.your data presents a very one-dimensional view of the situation. you do not appear to be measuring how members of this group areinteracting with others outside of this forum (i.e., thismail list isjust oneof many mechanisms that we employ;I routinely communicatewith many active videobloggers who are on the list but rarely or never send emails.).An obvious point: a lot of folks here have vlogs anduse those as their *primary* means of communication.markusLeanBackVids.com wrote:Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group.Here are the results...The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April20, 2006 (18.5 days)...Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts...80 Michael Sullivan50 Devlon43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux39 David Meade36 Markus Sandy35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi27 Andy Carvin27 Casey McKinnon24 robert a/k/a r23 Anne Walk21 Harold Johnson20 Josh Leo19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric17 David Howell17 Jen Simmons17 Stephanie Bryant16 andrew michael baron15 Andreas Haugstrup13 B Yen13 Bill Streeter13 Susan 12 Gena12 Heath11 jonny goldstein11 usadutch200110 Ted Tagami9Chuck Olsen9Paul Knight9Steve Garfield8Jan 8LeanBackVids.com8Mike Hudack8WWWhatsup7Josh Wolf7Randolfe Wicker7Richard (Show) Hall7Stan Hirson, Sarah J...6Adam Quirk 6Jay dedman6Mike Moon6missbhavens19696Nathan Freitas6Ron Watson6Ryan Ozawa6xicastmedia5greendesertpro5Michael Meiser 5Monique DanielleThe point of all this?To validate my concerns...It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest ofthe video blogging world.Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participatingmembers since last year.There must be a way to bridge the gapbetween all the other vloggers.Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same.-Matt---http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.comhttp://leanbackvids.comYahoo! Groups Links --Markus Sandyhttp://apperceptions.orghttp://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
as long as there was rss for each sub-community, as well as an uber-rss for the whole shebang, i'd be okay with it. As it is, I don't receive list messages via email - I stick with rss to keep my inbox nice and clean. -ac --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh. I think part of the issue is the volume of traffic in this list can be daunting. New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-P A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great. If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good: - FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise) - Events and Meetups - Videoblogging in the news - Cameras and Hardware - Editing and Compression - Blogs and Hosting - RSS and Publication - Aggregators and Readers - Other Support / Technical Help - Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!) - Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights you violate.) - Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.) - The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.) - General / Off Topic chit chat. - Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
There is a RSS plugin for PHPbb that does this. Creates an RSS feed for every forum and every topic. I saw it in the mods database at the PHPbb.com. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as long as there was rss for each sub-community, as well as an uber-rss for the whole shebang, i'd be okay with it. As it is, I don't receive list messages via email - I stick with rss to keep my inbox nice and clean. -ac --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@ wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh. I think part of the issue is the volume of traffic in this list can be daunting. New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-P A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great. If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good: - FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise) - Events and Meetups - Videoblogging in the news - Cameras and Hardware - Editing and Compression - Blogs and Hosting - RSS and Publication - Aggregators and Readers - Other Support / Technical Help - Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!) - Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights you violate.) - Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.) - The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.) - General / Off Topic chit chat. - Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
It seems to me that: 1) Those numbers are great! No bad news there.2) If anyone wants to start a forum, great! The more the better. Maybe it'll take off.. 3) It's all good news. Perhaps I'm just an optimist. >From the analysis there was some concern about reaching beginning/shy vloggers. That I understand. There are a lot of things you could do... I for one am still waiting for some entity to start publishing lotsa written tutorials (freevlog is brilliant but I want it in written form as well as videos). This is still a small community, enjoy the ride :) Peter On 5/9/06, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just messin with ya Matt...I plan on geovlogging a lot more of my videos...does vlogmap get found a lot by the people searching for things like nude vlog 'Naked cat videos etc cause I know that I get a lot of that kind of traffic... in addition to all the people searching for how to peel a mango and hitler's eagles nest... On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plug? HAHAHA!I try to do good an get accused of bad - thanks.Considering most vloggers haven't even attempted to claim their vloglisting on the new VlogMap, I'm not really concerned about pluggingthe forums. I'll admit, I thought adding forums to VlogMap would be an addedservice.The goal was to provide another connection point forinternational vloggers and those interested in video blogging.However, the reality is that VlogMap gets 80-90% non-vlogger traffic. Most people come from searching Google, yet they still seem to beconfused about what vlogging is.Many of the visitors are from outside the US.Many are visiting tofind videos.Most are not vloggers.That does provide a good opportunity for those listed to reap traffic.Andy Carvin has mappeda ton of videos and has probably seen a slight increase in traffic.Anyways, I'm not sure how to continue... it is hard to develop tools for the community (minority) yet focus on the viewers (majority).That being said, the future of VlogMap is in the community's hands.If users don't add vlogs/geovlogs then it will go stale.If usersdon't moderate the listings, it may get filled w/ junk. As for the forums and handbook, they may get pulled down since nobodyis using them.Participating would plug yourself.VlogMap operateson a $0 budget and makes $0.My only goal is to better the community and provide useful/fun tools for vloggers.Sorry that is seen as a plug.-Matt--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmapforums... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Yeah it also creates a feed for the most recent posts in and across all public forums/topics ... the 'uber-feed'.On 5/9/06, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:There is a RSS plugin for PHPbb that does this. Creates an RSS feed for every forum and every topic. I saw it in the mods database atthe PHPbb.com.Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: as long as there was rss for each sub-community, as well as an uber-rss for the whole shebang, i'd be okay with it. As it is, I don't receive list messages via email - I stick with rss to keep my inbox nice and clean. -ac --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@ wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh.I think part of the issue isthe volume of traffic in this list can be daunting.New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-P A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great.If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the communityexperience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to knoweverything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics wouldbe good: - FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise) - Events and Meetups - Videoblogging in the news - Cameras and Hardware - Editing and Compression - Blogs and Hosting - RSS and Publication - Aggregators and Readers - Other Support / Technical Help - Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!) - Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rightsyou violate.) - Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.) - The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising viaVlogging.) - General / Off Topic chit chat. - Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging)And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribeto the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow.http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
My point is that the Yahoo Group is small, hidden and not gear for non-vloggers. There are many topics here that would benefit people outside the group, but it does not have enough exposure. Search 'vlog', 'vlogs', 'video blog' or 'video blogs' and the Yahoo Group does not come up. start plug here VlogMap gets a shit load of traffic from search engines and international media articles. Most of the visitors are visiting to watch vlogs or find out more about vlogging. I feel VlogMap has a responsibility to meet the needs of this majority, yet I'm not sure how to proceed if the community is not behind it. I would love to get the community's help, but it sounds like some are concerned about driving traffic to another site. Each forum on VlogMap does have an RSS feed, and there is an uber RSS feed for the site (including new vlogs and geovlogged videos). Here you go Josh and Markus... just in case you could find it. (sarcasm) http://community.vlogmap.org/forum -Matt --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that thought hit me too i'm sure blips will jump in on that topic too ;) Josh Leo wrote: but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... hmmm -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:32:35 +0200, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many topics here that would benefit people outside the group, but it does not have enough exposure. Search 'vlog', 'vlogs', 'video blog' or 'video blogs' and the Yahoo Group does not come up. start plug here VlogMap gets a shit load of traffic from search engines and international media articles. Most of the visitors are visiting to watch vlogs or find out more about vlogging. Why don't you link to the Yahoo group then? :o) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] beachwalks.tv helps natavillage.org
Jon - The credit is yours for getting all that set up and running! I really am the beneficiary. Mahalo for your work and for telling us about it here so I can explore how to strengthen our connections. Aloha, Rox On 5/9/06, Jon Rawlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello videoblogging group, I just wanted to publicly say thank you Rox (beachwalks.tv) for including our Nata village project (natavillage.org) not only on her site but in her latest VIDEOBLOG! http://www.beachwalks.tv/2006/05/07/beach-walk-76-aloha-to-africa/ Typepad has also just featured our blog: http://featured.typepad.com/blogs/2006/05/the_nata_villag.html Thank you so much Rox and Typepad.com!!! We really appreciate all the support! Cheers, JON. natavillage.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Roxanne Darling o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian http://www.beachwalks.tv http://www.barefeetshop.com http://www.barefeetstudios.com http://www.inthetransition.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
this is exactly what will not make something take off the go ahead do your own thing does not work when it is in reference to a community resource, there has to be mass adoption On 5/9/06, Peter Van Dijck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) If anyone wants to start a forum, great! The more the better. Maybe it'll take off..-- Josh Leo www.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Because I think the general discussion of the Yahoo Group is too much and the group is not very inviting new members or non-vloggers. It is my opinion that forums should be broken down into sub-topics so that users can pay attention to the things they are interested in (or understand). As for linking to Yahoo (and others), I'm hoping to build out a complete video blogging handbook. Any registered user can create a new pages, yet not a single user has tried. The amount of work it took to get the new site up combined by the lack of community support has taken its toll on my motivation. I have hopes of building many more tools/features, but we'll see. Again, I'm not sure how to gear the site toward the 80% non-vloggers yet satisfy the 20% of vloggers (who VlogMap relies on for content). -Matt --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:32:35 +0200, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many topics here that would benefit people outside the group, but it does not have enough exposure. Search 'vlog', 'vlogs', 'video blog' or 'video blogs' and the Yahoo Group does not come up. start plug here VlogMap gets a shit load of traffic from search engines and international media articles. Most of the visitors are visiting to watch vlogs or find out more about vlogging. Why don't you link to the Yahoo group then? :o) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Exactly Bill I have it ready to go. Need to do a few tweaks to get it show up in the menu but that's it. There are a few diferent plugins I have choosen the one you can build the RSS feed yourself meaning choose your own topics and timeline. It is already build into the forum but is not activated yet, I think i will do that tonight so people can try it. blips http://vlogassist.com http://vlogmatic.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a RSS plugin for PHPbb that does this. Creates an RSS feed for every forum and every topic. I saw it in the mods database at the PHPbb.com. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andy Carvin acarvin@ wrote: as long as there was rss for each sub-community, as well as an uber-rss for the whole shebang, i'd be okay with it. As it is, I don't receive list messages via email - I stick with rss to keep my inbox nice and clean. -ac --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade meade.dave@ wrote: Yeah, I think I agree with Josh. I think part of the issue is the volume of traffic in this list can be daunting. New folks become lurkers because they cant possible catch/keep up :-P A forum where the more timid could find a specific area, and the more brave could just RSS subscribe to the whole thing, would be great. If we could have a forum with an overall RSS subscribe, the community experience wouldn't really change for the core members (they'd still see everything in one list) ... but those trying to get started might feel more willing to post to a related topic than to 2000 people who seem to know everything anyway. I always though a forum system with the following topics would be good: - FAQs, Tips, and Tutorials (moderated to remove noise) - Events and Meetups - Videoblogging in the news - Cameras and Hardware - Editing and Compression - Blogs and Hosting - RSS and Publication - Aggregators and Readers - Other Support / Technical Help - Content and Creativity (Share and discuss your ideas!) - Copyright and Legal Discussions (Your rights and the rights you violate.) - Social and Political Action (Issues that impact vloggers, or issues vloggers can impact.) - The Business of vlogging (Advertising and Monetising via Vlogging.) - General / Off Topic chit chat. - Forums Feedback: Issues with the forums (not vlogging) And again, I think it would have to have an option to subscribe to the entire forum (or subsets) via RSS. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I didn't even know what that was... adding a book, had no idea what that meant...plus I think peolpe see vlogmap as the mapping site that is it... adding tutorials, forums, etc seems out of the realm of vlog MAP... that is just my first perception... the launch was not as clear...didn't realize the user base etc On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I think the general discussion of the Yahoo Group is toomuch and the group is not very inviting new members or non-vloggers.It is my opinion that forums should be broken down into sub-topics so that users can pay attention to the things they are interested in (orunderstand).As for linking to Yahoo (and others), I'm hoping to build out acomplete video blogging handbook.Any registered user can create a new pages, yet not a single user has tried.The amount of work it took to get the new site up combined by the lackof community support has taken its toll on my motivation.I havehopes of building many more tools/features, but we'll see. Again, I'm not sure how to gear the site toward the 80% non-vloggersyet satisfy the 20% of vloggers (who VlogMap relies on for content).-Matt--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:32:35 +0200, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many topics here that would benefit people outside the group, but it does not have enough exposure.Search 'vlog', 'vlogs', 'video blog' or 'video blogs' and the Yahoo Group does not come up. start plug here VlogMap gets a shit load of traffic from search engines and international media articles.Most of the visitors are visiting to watch vlogs or find out more about vlogging. Why don't you link to the Yahoo group then? :o) -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~-Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
i read this list (and sometimes participate) because it comes to my mailbox.i have often thought that a forum would be better because things could be listed by topic and it would be more searchable for people looking for specific information. how many times have we had people come in here and ask a question only to be flamed for not searching the group archives? i think that most members don't post for a couple of reasons. one is that the discussions aren't always conducive to new participation (inside stuff) or overly technical for beginners. newcomers are not privy to the unwritten protocols of the room and are often accused of spamming or are just ignored. another is that a huge percentage of the population doesn't participate in anything! they are the 'read-onlies'. i think that people don't want to try any other format because they feel a sense of ownership with this group...particularly the active posters. why would you want to change something that is working for you? and, yes, josh. it's true. if there was a forum to start up, it would only succeed if it was set up by the vlogging establishment. even then, folks are pretty entrenched in their habits. On 5/9/06, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the classic 80/20 rule, some may come to the site to join justto plug something and then you never hear from them again, some aredaunted by the tech know how, some may just enjoy the ranting of abunch of slightly off persons.:)But I know I would like a more type of forum thing and I do remember you plugging the forumsyou created, I think for some it may be that they don't want to haveto travel to different sites, once they are hear.I think some ofthe issue with the forum idea that you had, was who else was plugging it?Was there a link on freevlog, and vloggercon or even in thisgroup on the main page.I know that I would like something like a forum listing, (I meant togo back to yours but it got lost in the suffle) where various topics could be addressed rather quickly and easily, David's was pretty goodI thought, and from what I remember usadutch2001's was pretty coollookingI don't know people are lurkers by nature I think, only the alphas have the thick skin to withstand some of the heat that comes withthis group sometimes:)That and to be honest most of the timewhat really gets this group going is very techie issues and ideas that I think that most of the users on this group have NO IDEA whatyou guys and gals are talking aboutI know it is over my headsometimes...ok most of the time.Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.co,--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, usadutch2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I was a lurker a long time because the technical level was byond my comfort. I bet there are a lot of lurkers just enjoying every conversation. I think this groups must stay the way it is, a discussion group. And to answers Josh question, I did try to plug a forum with RSS feed, email-messaging with new topics, embeded video, and lots offunctions you will not find in other forums that are geared towards our media. But the result? Just 14 member and 2 Yes 2 posts from others. I have no clue how to get people more involved and what the setupmust be. And what about Vlogchallenge? A great oportunity for vloggers to explore new things.. Try some new ideas but there is no participation. Should we start over and call vlogging something else likeVlogcasting? Now up my number with 1 again. :) Blips http://vlogassist.com http://vlogmatic.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Josh Leo joshleo@ wrote: I hate to say this, but I think that a message board format maycome in handy to keep one community with separate groups/cliques But ideally it would be great to have an email or RSS feature also... I want to be able to keep up with things going on but i don't want tohave to visit a message board every day... right now we have multiple groups (languages, content, theory, node101, fireant, etc...) I think that one space with divisions is better than multiple spaces... and it may be less intimidating for newbies... but perhaps this is all a brilliant ploy to plug the new vlogmap forums... hmmm anyway... those are my thoughts On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com leanbackvids@ wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use ofthis Yahoo Group.Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80Michael Sullivan 50Devlon 43Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39David Meade 36Markus Sandy 35Deirdre Straughan 34Michael Verdi 27Andy Carvin 27Casey McKinnon 24robert a/k/a r 23Anne Walk 21Harold Johnson 20Josh Leo 19Joshua Kinberg 18Enric 17David Howell 17Jen Simmons 17Stephanie Bryant 16andrew michael baron 15Andreas Haugstrup
[videoblogging] Re: QuickTime Replacement and 3ivx MP4 decoding
I see my H.264 compressed .mov file produced in MPEG Streamclip looks far better in the newest VLC than when running under the 3ivx decoder in other media players. In VLC, the sky apears as a smooth gradient, while in other players, the 3ivx decoding shows aliasing, flickering horizontal ribbons, very distracting. I wiped Apple off my P4 XP machine for QT replacement, so I'm not able to compare for myself, but I've read other users prefered VLC QT output over Apple's own media player, and I expect it's VLC's smoothing. I thought I'd loaded a much less compressed version of the clip by mistake, VLC looks that good in this instance. It's great to have 3ivx for .MP4 and .mov playback under other media players, but for the heavilly compressed H.264 files I'll vlog with, I'll recommend viewers download VLC. The alternative is to use less compression-- not good! I won't be recommending Apple's nagware to my vlog visitors, or QT replacement, or 3ivx. I'll recommend VLC player, to better reflect my artistic H.264 .mov visions-- with smooth skies that don't flutter and vibrate. b. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
At least there is a big gap between sull and I ;)On 5/9/06, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon-- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] my trip to America
Last time I travelled through the states everyone had to put their eyes to a camera and have fingerprints taken. And this was just travelling _through_ Miami from Mexico to Canada. Pretty creepy.On 5/9/06, Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most importantly, what is a chocolate pocket?... always culturally sensitive ... RichardOn 5/6/06, Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all,Just a small question, as you may be aware I am gonna be at Vloggercon this year and I am traveling all the way from the UK, thisis not the problem, nor is the jet-lag.No nothings as benign or small.Just I have heard that I need a Bio-metric passport to enter the states.Does anyone know that this is true as my current passportisn't bio-metric.Is this true?Do I need a Bio-metric passport tovisit or what, has anyone flown from the uk to the states recentlywithout or what? Need to know, the US Embassy is website is a bout as much use as achocolate pocket in a sock.Paul Knight(pjkproductions) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now.http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Richard http://www.richardshow.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.cahttp://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: QuickTime Replacement and 3ivx MP4 decoding
Hello Brad,VLC's H.264 codec... which goes by the name x264... has won awards! (So it's no surprise that you've had that experience.)Here's some awards that it got...Doom9's 2005 codec shoot-out -- http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/codecs-final-105-1.htmSecond annual MSU MPEG-4 AVC/ H.264 codecs comparison -- http://www.compression.ru/video/codec_comparison/mpeg-4_avc_h264_2005_en.htmlMSU Subjective Comparison of Modern Video Codecs -- http://www.compression.ru/video/codec_comparison/subjective_codecs_comparison_en.htmlAnd for those that want it,... you can Get VLC from... http://GetVLC.com/ See yaOn 5/9/06, Brad Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see my H.264 compressed .mov file produced in MPEG Streamclip looks farbetter in the newest VLC than when running under the 3ivx decoder inother media players.In VLC, the sky apears as a smooth gradient,while in other players, the 3ivx decoding shows aliasing, flickering horizontal ribbons, very distracting.I wiped Apple off my P4 XP machine for QT replacement, so I'm not ableto compare for myself, but I've read other users prefered VLC QToutput over Apple's own media player, and I expect it's VLC's smoothing.I thought I'd loaded a much less compressed version of theclip by mistake, VLC looks that good in this instance.It's great tohave 3ivx for .MP4and .mov playback under other media players, but for the heavilly compressed H.264 files I'll vlog with, I'll recommendviewers download VLC.The alternative is to use less compression--not good!I won't be recommending Apple's nagware to my vlog visitors, or QT replacement, or 3ivx.I'll recommend VLC player, to better reflect myartistic H.264 .mov visions-- with smooth skies that don't flutter andvibrate.b. -- Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. charles @ reptile.casupercanadian @ gmail.comdeveloper weblog: http://ChangeLog.ca/___ Make Televisionhttp://maketelevision.com/ SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Ahoy! Adoryble Adventures Vlog is sailing!
Ahoy, Mateys! Adoryble Adventures (http://adoryble.blogspot.com) is sailing on the internet. Ten episodes have aired with number eleven to come shortly. Currently, I am producing about an episode a week. Adoryble Adventures is about...a hell, watch the vlog. Thanks for a great Yahoo! group. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] QTVR panorama opportunities @Vloggercon?
Somebody's putting those great links up on the vloggercon map and wiki, yes? :) I would, but temporarily on dialup :( XOXOX, Jan -- http://fauxpress.blogspot.com - motion http://blog.urbanartadventures.com - sound http://the-hold.blogspot.com - poetry http://dagnyhemingway.blogspot.com - machinima http://vlogpresskit.blogspot.com - media On May 8, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: there are a few bridges and scenic spots that might lend themselves to panoramas: http://www.wayoutthere.com/qtvr/haight-ashbury.html http://www.wayoutthere.com/qtvr/san_francisco.html http://geoimages.berkeley.edu/geoimages/qtvr/CentralCalif/CivicCenterPlazaNSide.html http://www.highton.com/pages/qtvrdisplays/ggbridgelev1.html http://www.worldserver.com/turk/quicktimevr/ and it appears that Muybridge was using quicktime to make panorama's back in 1878 ;) http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/pix/qtvr/sfpanorama.html B Yen wrote: I'm getting into QTVR panos, I'd like to do some at Vloggercon. Are there any good San Francisco places that lend itself to 360 degree panoramas? See http://www.360vr.com http://www.rcfisher.com http://www.jumplive.com/lbgp06/index.html http://360vr.com/BYen/ [ for some reason, my website is down at http://www.comet-track.com/eclipse/secl06/secl06.html ] http://www.rcfisher.com/eclipse/ [ that pano with the umbrella bay, is the place in Dahab where the terrorist bombing happened. The CNN article referred to body parts flung into the bay..that was the place! I was eating breakfast there my hotel was 100 ft away. I missed getting blown up by 4 weeks! ] I'd like to do one, with some Vlogger pioneers in the pic. Say, at the San Francisco water front. Or, the Exploratorium: http://www.exploratorium.edu at one of the exhibits, say video-technology one. Or, do some conventional photography (get creative) with pioneers like: xxx [ I need to know who they are, I'm not that well informed in this regard ] Sidenote: Check out the Exploratorium's video-podcast of their Live eclipse project: http://qt.exploratorium.edu/Download_Store/pages/eclipse2006.html Mine is also avialable on the Eclipse Science video-podcast over iTunes, see the video-blog at: http://eclipsescience.blogspot.com [ scroll way down to the bottom, or click on upper-right icon to take yourself to iTunes ] I blogged my entire eclipse trip: http://eclipsechaser.blogspot.com http://solareclipse.textamerica.com I was amazed at the Internet connectivity in all the Egypt places I went, even a hole-in-the-wall Internet Cafe in Sallum/Egypt (small border town, Egypt Libya border): http://solareclipse.textamerica.com/?_ctgry=22897 http://solareclipse.textamerica.com/?r=4517509_ctgry=22897 [ this Internet Cafe was in a back-alley, on the 2nd floor..talk about 3rd world type of thing. They were using *shared bandwidth* over get this..DIALUP!! Man, were the downloads slow! But, it was nevertheless a Internet hookup. The manager was Egyptian, with an American wife in Detroit..unbelievable. ] Check out this Internet Cafe in Marsa-Matrouh (between Sidi Barani El Alamein..big names in WWII history): http://solareclipse.textamerica.com/?_ctgry=23120 http://solareclipse.textamerica.com/?r=4523913_ctgry=23120 http://solareclipse.textamerica.com/?r=4523911_ctgry=23120 [ that's a very attractive Internet Cafe operator, BTW! ] There was a really excellent Internet Cafe in Dahab (along Red Sea, across from Saudi Arabia..north of Sharm El-Sheikh, that place the politicians goto to meet about Middle East issues ]. Don't have a pic, but it was DSL access the manager spoke good English was very knowledgable..who was Christian BTW. I have his contact into (email). Unfortunately, Dahab was the place that got hit by the terrorist bombing (One man's terrorist, is another man's Freedom-Fighter). I even blogged usiing the DSL computer terminal at Magy Hotel in Cairo/Egypt.. no charge! See: http://www.hostelz.com/hotel/32502-Magy-Hotel [ you can see the Internet terminal in those pics ] I even blogged from the house I stayed in Salloum: http://solareclipse.textamerica.com/?_ctgry=22895 http://solareclipse.textamerica.com/?r=4495346_ctgry=22895 http://eclipsechaser.blogspot.com/ [ scroll down for entry Raining on Mar 27 (morning), what !? ] the condo @Marsa Matrouh: http://eclipsechaser.blogspot.com/ [ scroll down for entry Blogging from Marsa-Matrouh ] The above 2 places were down with dialup connection. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ▪ Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ▪ Visit your group videoblogging on the web. ▪ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
Re: [videoblogging] my trip to America
On Tue, 09 May 2006 20:34:05 +0200, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last time I travelled through the states everyone had to put their eyes to a camera and have fingerprints taken. And this was just travelling _through_ Miami from Mexico to Canada. Pretty creepy. I went through the procedure last year and I don't see the problems with it. The employees are helpful and professional, it *very* fast and there are even self-checkout machines when departing the USA (I'm a bit entertained by the fact that you have to checkout of a country). I do wish they'd have three lines at arrivals instead of just US-citizens and non-citizens it would make my day if there were US-citizens, people on visa-waivers and people with visas. Us visa-waiver people require far less time and it would be nice with a fast lane. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On Tue, 09 May 2006 18:52:34 +0200, Anne Walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have often thought that a forum would be better because things could be listed by topic and it would be more searchable for people looking for specific information. how many times have we had people come in here and ask a question only to be flamed for not searching the group archives? Never? People have been asked to search the archives. This won't change with a webbased forum. People still won't search the archives and they will still be told to search the archives. i think that most members don't post for a couple of reasons. I'd like to make an open invitation to all lurkers to post about why they don't post to this group. That's more accurate than guessing. :o) i think that people don't want to try any other format because they feel a sense of ownership with this group...particularly the active posters. why would you want to change something that is working for you? A successfull move is a massive task (and it will most likely fail anyway, this topic comes up every 6 months). The value gained has to match the effort put in. That and if it ain't broke... like you point out. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] my trip to America
On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 20:34:05 +0200, Brett Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Last time I travelled through the states everyone had to put their eyes to a camera and have fingerprints taken.And this was just travelling _through_ Miami from Mexico to Canada.Pretty creepy.I went through the procedure last year and I don't see the problems with it. The employees are helpful and professional, it *very* fast and thereare even self-checkout machines when departing the USA (I'm a bitentertained by the fact that you have to checkout of a country). I guess it was clogged up when I was in Miami - it took us about an hour and we almost missed our flight. Vacation travel probably had something to do with it. And my guy was a total jerk so that also didn't help. As always, depends who you get I suppose. ---Brett Gaylorhttp://www.etherworks.cahttp://www.homelessnation.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
hmmm, you obviously left out the search words where it is in the top 3 or 4 such as videoblogging also, most of the top search results will lead you here very quickly because of link love one obvious exception: the new vlogmap seems to have far less links to the external community on it's main pages no obvious badges, links , etc. on front page if it is so important for this group to be visible, why not point to it more directly??? i think vlogmap II looks fantastic, but i must admit I use it much less since the changes (i was a daily user) i'm not 100% sure why, but i think it was mainly just small changes to the feedburner stats page for me also, it seemed that the node101 sites got lost in the shuffle btw, here's a great video that discusses the effects of UI changes on communities http://sbforum.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-kaye-watch-video-tag-sbforum.html LeanBackVids.com wrote: My point is that the Yahoo Group is small, hidden and not gear for non-vloggers. There are many topics here that would benefit people outside the group, but it does not have enough exposure. Search 'vlog', 'vlogs', 'video blog' or 'video blogs' and the Yahoo Group does not come up. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] beachwalks.tv helps natavillage.org
I was able to view beachwalks' video which links to your video but then every other beachwalk crashed Firefox, as did your own videos (until I viewed them on YouTube). Anybody have any idea why that would happen? I have the latest version of QuickTime and haven't had any problems with other videos until today. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com - Original Message - From: Jon Rawlinson To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 7:05 AM Subject: [videoblogging] beachwalks.tv helps natavillage.org Hello videoblogging group,I just wanted to publicly say thank you Rox (beachwalks.tv) for including our Nata village project (natavillage.org) not only on her site but in her latest VIDEOBLOG! http://www.beachwalks.tv/2006/05/07/beach-walk-76-aloha-to-africa/Typepad has also just featured our blog:http://featured.typepad.com/blogs/2006/05/the_nata_villag.htmlThank you so much Rox and Typepad.com!!! We really appreciate all the support!Cheers,JON.natavillage.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I had a hard time finding the maps at first...so many links so many features, i was overloaded i guessOn 5/9/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hmmm, you obviously left out the search words whereitis in the top 3 or 4such as videobloggingalso, most of the top search results will lead you here very quicklybecause of link loveone obvious exception: the new vlogmap seems to have far less links to the external community on it's main pagesno obviousbadges, links , etc.on front pageif it is so important for this group to be visible, why not point to itmore directly???i think vlogmap II looks fantastic, but i must admit I use it much less since the changes (i was a daily user)i'm not 100% sure why, buti think it was mainly just small changes tothe feedburner stats page for mealso, it seemed that thenode101 sites got lost in the shuffle btw, here's a great video that discusses the effects of UI changes oncommunitieshttp://sbforum.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-kaye-watch-video-tag-sbforum.html LeanBackVids.com wrote:My point is that the Yahoo Group is small, hidden and not gear fornon-vloggers.There are many topics here that would benefit people outside the group, but it does not have enough exposure.Search 'vlog', 'vlogs','video blog' or 'video blogs' and the Yahoo Group does not come up.--Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.orghttp://spinflow.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Josh Leowww.JoshLeo.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think that people don't want to try any other format because they feel a sense of ownership with this group...particularly the active posters. why would you want to change something that is working for you? A successfull move is a massive task (and it will most likely fail anyway, this topic comes up every 6 months). The value gained has to match the effort put in. That and if it ain't broke... like you point out. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Um...if it comes up every 6 months or so, I would say that something IS broke, and if this group, the one that is promoted on almost every vlog site or at the very least the ones that are considered the fathers/mothers of vlogging, shouldn't it grow with the group as well? Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I personally don't view/send these messages through email, I view it through my browser. So for me, this is like a message forum. It's not nicely formatted like a message base, but I view it several times a day, just like my other message bases. My point is, that the yahoo group allows people to view the messages in several different methods. Convienence for everyone. With that said, we could do so much more in a real message base. Posting pictures, posting links, visuals screenshots to help each other, just do so much more. A message forum would be wonderful. Now, as Josh pointed out, how do we migrate 1,000+ users? Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, LeanBackVids.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon 43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39 David Meade 36 Markus Sandy 35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi 27 Andy Carvin 27 Casey McKinnon 24 robert a/k/a r 23 Anne Walk 21 Harold Johnson 20 Josh Leo 19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric 17 David Howell 17 Jen Simmons 17 Stephanie Bryant 16 andrew michael baron 15 Andreas Haugstrup 13 B Yen 13 Bill Streeter 13 Susan 12 Gena 12 Heath 11 jonny goldstein 11 usadutch2001 10 Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique Danielle The point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same. -Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
ok just a warning... let's not start the "what shall we call it" conversation again... ROFL. If anybody has any interest, you must read http://www.geocities.com/bevsykes/Jan31.htm, which explains "juice and crackers," my philosophy of life, which I think is very well demonstrated in the "having the 'what shall we call it' conversation" again. -- BevBlog: http://funnytheblog.blogspot.com/Journal: http://funnytheworld.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Response to each comment below... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmmm, you obviously left out the search words where it is in the top 3 or 4 such as videoblogging That is a word that is probably much lower than vlog(s) and video blog(s). It is much more commone amongst the community members than it is to the average Web user. Also noote, video blogging does not show the Yahoo Group in Google. http://www.google.com/search?q=video%20blogging also, most of the top search results will lead you here very quickly because of link love one obvious exception: the new vlogmap seems to have far less links to the external community on it's main pages no obvious badges, links , etc. on front page if it is so important for this group to be visible, why not point to it more directly??? The external community links have been added to the bottom of the home page, exactly like the old site. The badges were removed many months ago due to the lollipop look. The links were not removed to horde traffic. I intended to build out detailed pages with screenshots and photos for the handbook. The launch came a month early and it was a scramble to organize everything. I apologize for the unintentional diss. http://community.vlogmap.org/ i think vlogmap II looks fantastic, but i must admit I use it much less since the changes (i was a daily user) i'm not 100% sure why, but i think it was mainly just small changes to the feedburner stats page for me I'm very sorry you are no longer a regular visitor. I'm surprise you have an issue with the FeedBurner stats since the only changes have been improvements. You can now see compare up to 10 vlogs of your choice and see each comparison (or an individual vlog) over various timeframes (24 hours to 1 year). Note, none of the old features were removed. http://community.vlogmap.org/feedburner also, it seemed that the node101 sites got lost in the shuffle Not sure what you mean? Node 101 was not part of the bottom home page links, but that was a mistake. I will add it now. btw, here's a great video that discusses the effects of UI changes on communities http://sbforum.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-kaye-watch-video-tag-sbforum.html I'll watch... Thank you for your feedback! I've made a point to address every issue that has been presented (commented or emailed) to me. This is the quickest way to make the site better. Sometimes, I'm too close to the development to see these issues. -Matt http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Thrown out into the chaos and not properly received. Yep, that sums up the recent launch. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://sbforum.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-kaye-watch-video-tag-sbforum.html SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
i think you misunderstood matt i don't have an issue with the stats. there was a minor change in the display and sometimes that's all it takes to break a habit (it might have even been that a cookie got reset - doesn't matter - it changed the user experience) i know about the comparison. it's not a feature that interests me. again, i think the site looks great LeanBackVids.com wrote: I'm very sorry you are no longer a regular visitor. I'm surprise you have an issue with the FeedBurner stats since the only changes have been improvements. You can now see compare up to 10 vlogs of your choice and see each comparison (or an individual vlog) over various timeframes (24 hours to 1 year). Note, none of the old features were removed. Yahoo! Groups Links -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Promotional Vlogcaster needed-part time
Golf Publisher Syndications publishes over 40 online golf publications, reaching over 2 million golfers a month. We need to hire a contract female vlogcaster for short promotional vlogs on resorts and golf courses. http://www.golfpublisher.com/jobs/forms/vlogging.htm Please apply here and a reprentative will get with you. Randy Lindner Golf Publisher SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
no offense , but this is the silliest thing i've read yet this group grows, splits, morphs and changes so often it's ridiculous i don't know about you, but i'm in at least a dozen groups related to vlogging and each serves a different audience this group may not be everything to everybody at all times, but i still think of it as 'home' and a great place for people to start out if we think that this group should rise in the google search ranks, then we should do something about it it's easy, just vlog or blog about this group and that should do the trick (note how ro's videoblogging-universe rose rapidly to the top 3 some time back just because a few people put his thumbs in their sidebars - that was brilliant on his part) if you think there is a need for a forum, then join one of the existing ones and contribute to it. i recommend contributing to JD's learning center at ourmedia. i think that is one great resource. Heath wrote: Um...if it comes up every 6 months or so, I would say that something IS broke, and if this group, the one that is promoted on almost every vlog site or at the very least the ones that are considered the fathers/mothers of vlogging, shouldn't it grow with the group as well? Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Promotional Vlogcaster needed-part time
Why only female? Some of us guys are pretty enough to be on screenlegs may need to be shaved, sure...but...On 5/9/06, arizpgapro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Golf Publisher Syndications publishes over 40 online golf publications, reaching over 2 million golfers a month. We need to hire a contract female vlogcaster for short promotional vlogs on resorts and golf courses. http://www.golfpublisher.com/jobs/forms/vlogging.htm Please apply here and a reprentative will get with you. Randy Lindner Golf Publisher SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.comhttp://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I think the sheer number of posts per day makes it hard to keep up with the group. In my situation, I was just a subscriber and checked the group online. Then, I subscribed to receive the digest, which is hard to respond to an individual post. Now, I receive every post as an email. It's still overwhelming to look in your inbox and read 50 posts everyday. Dennis Poulette ymimexico.org/vlog From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill StreeterSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:45 PMTo: videoblogging@yahoogroups.comSubject: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap I don't think we need to mirgrate several thousand users--only the top 20 or so posters, and the rest will follow--if they're even paying attention. Just leave a sign on the front page and a few messages saying the conversation has moved and those that want to come along will. The moderator can also send out a message to those who have opted out of getting the emails. If you sign up and choose not to get the emails it's very easy to stay subscribed to the goup and forget about it. So I wouldn't guess that a large percentage of the "thousands" of subscribers are even paying attention. I've been a member of this group for over a year, but I didn't become active in it untill late last summer. I really didn't pay a whole lot of attention to what was going on here much prior to that for whatever reason. Bill StreeterLO-FI SAINT LOUISwww.lofistl.com--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Moon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally don't view/send these messages through email, I view it through my browser. So for me, this is like a message forum. It's not nicely formatted like a message base, but I view it several times a day, just like my other message bases. My point is, that the yahoo group allows people to view the messages in several different methods. Convienence for everyone. With that said, we could do so much more in a real message base. Posting pictures, posting links, visuals screenshots to help each other, just do so much more. A message forum would be wonderful. Now, as Josh pointed out, how do we migrate 1,000+ users? Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "LeanBackVids.com" leanbackvids@ wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results...The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)...Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members).Here are the top 50 users by number of posts... 80 Michael Sullivan 50 Devlon 43 Charles Iliya Krempeaux 39 David Meade 36 Markus Sandy 35 Deirdre Straughan 34 Michael Verdi 27 Andy Carvin 27 Casey McKinnon 24 robert a/k/a r 23 Anne Walk 21 Harold Johnson 20 Josh Leo 19 Joshua Kinberg 18 Enric 17 David Howell 17 Jen Simmons 17 Stephanie Bryant 16 andrew michael baron 15 Andreas Haugstrup 13 B Yen 13 Bill Streeter 13 Susan 12 Gena 12 Heath 11 jonny goldstein 11 usadutch2001 10 Ted Tagami 9 Chuck Olsen 9 Paul Knight 9 Steve Garfield 8 Jan 8 LeanBackVids.com 8 Mike Hudack 8 WWWhatsup 7 Josh Wolf 7 Randolfe Wicker 7 Richard (Show) Hall 7 Stan Hirson, Sarah J... 6 Adam Quirk 6 Jay dedman 6 Mike Moon 6 missbhavens1969 6 Nathan Freitas 6 Ron Watson 6 Ryan Ozawa 6 xicastmedia 5 greendesertpro 5 Michael Meiser 5 Monique DanielleThe point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. Note: If you don't think the results are an accurate representation, I can analyze more data, but I believe that the trend will be the same.-Matt --- http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
i was referring to the loss of the nodes on the map originally there had been pin in ojai for the digital dojo when i checked the other day, it was no longer there i see that there is now a node101::ojai pin thanks! LeanBackVids.com wrote: also, it seemed that the node101 sites got lost in the shuffle Not sure what you mean? Node 101 was not part of the bottom home page links, but that was a mistake. I will add it now. btw, here's a great video that discusses the effects of UI changes on communities http://sbforum.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-kaye-watch-video-tag-sbforum.html I'll watch... Thank you for your feedback! I've made a point to address every issue that has been presented (commented or emailed) to me. This is the quickest way to make the site better. Sometimes, I'm too close to the development to see these issues. -Matt http://vlogmap.org http://ridertech.com http://leanbackvids.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow. http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Promotional Vlogcaster needed-part time
i just have to share this... only in Ojai could i imagine this golf event happening: wish i could afford to attend and vlog it ;) The First Annual Deepak Chopra/World Business Academy Invitational Golf in the Kingdom Thursday, May 25 - Saturday, May 27, 2006 Your invitation to what promises to be the only golf event that explores and demonstrates the linkage between mind and body in golf, in business and in life. Business practitioners, golfers, and those engaged in living life to its fullest will find this gathering practical, exciting, and inspirational. Click for the event brochure and information on registration and attendance. http://www.worldbusiness.org/images_for_emails/golf/chopra_invitational_06_a.pdf anybody seen any personal golf vlogs yet? Devlon wrote: Why only female? Some of us guys are pretty enough to be on screenlegs may need to be shaved, sure...but... On 5/9/06, arizpgapro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Golf Publisher Syndications publishes over 40 online golf publications, reaching over 2 million golfers a month. We need to hire a contract female vlogcaster for short promotional vlogs on resorts and golf courses. http://www.golfpublisher.com/jobs/forms/vlogging.htm Please apply here and a reprentative will get with you. Randy Lindner Golf Publisher SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlon http://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On 5/9/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no offense , but this is the silliest thingi've read yetoh well gee how could anyone take offense to that.It's not the silliest thing, and if you frequent this mailing list ... it cant be the silliest thing you've read. No offense, but just because you don't think something should change doesn't mean opinions to the contrary are silly or unfounded. It just means you dont wnat it to change. Thats perfectly fine, but Heaths got a point, it wouldn't be an issue so often if there werent at least some good reasons out there to put the idea in peoples head. There are clearly pros and cons to each model ... squashing discussion as if there aren't ... that is whats silly.This is clearly a great group, and has great information for those just starting. No body is saying otherwise. The simple question was essentially 'is there a better way for this group to present that information to make it more accessible for those people who cant follow the topic well enough yet to be like you and join a dozen different groups to find the information. -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Thanks David for bring this back on track and restating the original question! Side note to Markus... I did not just add that pin. Maybe you did not see it earlier due to the clustering of markers. Anyways, I'm glad no data was lost - make sure to claim that one. Thanks again for the feedback. -Matt --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is clearly a great group, and has great information for those just starting. No body is saying otherwise. The simple question was essentially 'is there a better way for this group to present that information to make it more accessible for those people who cant follow the topic... SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
David Meade wrote: It's not the silliest thing, and if you frequent this mailing list ... it cant be the silliest thing you've read. i have read every message in this list for over a year so, i guess i do frequent it i did actually take a moment and consider before sending if it was indeed the silliest thing I hah ever read and, yes suggesting that 'this group is not growing with the rest of the group' was the silliest thing i had heard i apologize for not picking one of your statements if that's what bothering you (j/k) No offense, but just because you don't think something should change doesn't mean opinions to the contrary are silly or unfounded. It just means you dont wnat it to change. i did not say that i did not want change. in fact i even indicated several possible ways to change (vlog about the topic and contribute to existing resources. going back to the original point however, i think that this group is very dyanamic and there is no more of a gap between us than one would expect from any group. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On 5/9/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and, yes suggesting that 'this group is not growing with the rest of the group' was the silliest thing i had heard I'll avoid the temptation to start quoting obvious threads you've overlooked or blacked out of your memory. :-P i apologize for not picking one of your statements if that's what bothering you (j/k) Whats bothering me is is this needlessly harsh tone aimed at someone who was only pointing out that although this group has grown to over 2k people, its the 'old standards' that are in the top 50 users. That may not be a problem, it's simply raised the quesiton is the current format of the group contributing to the fact that there arent more new names in active posters list. Theres no reason to insult just because you dont see a problem with the fact that the same people are contributing to the list ... some others in this thread are simply asking would we see more participation from newer users and expand our network of friends if we were to present this FLOOD of information in another way. How can simply having that discussion warrant you ranking someones opinion on it as the silliest thing you've ever read.Vlogging about the yahoo group isn't likely to inspire lurkers to become active. So what would? (I doubt them seeing people attack perfectly reasonable discussion as 'the silliest thing' ever read is going to do it) - Dave-- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
actually it would be interesting to know how many people really do read these emails i suspect that the '2,179 members' figure includes many duplicates, dropouts, old accounts, spammers and even the dear departed perhaps it's more like 20%. what if it's really closer to 50% and there's really only about 300 people here? btw, from my point of view all the other vloggers is really the same as saying all the other people it's just a matter of time now you're talking about a real gap - i think it's called the digital divide ;) what's your suggestion for bridging it matt? mine is simple: open workshops where people help each other with all aspects of personal media LeanBackVids.com wrote: Out of curiosity, I decided take a closer look at the use of this Yahoo Group. Here are the results... The last 1,000 messages were analyzed from May 8, 2006 back to April 20, 2006 (18.5 days)... Only 152 unique users posted (7% of the total 2,179 members). ... The point of all this? To validate my concerns... It is my opinion that this group is very closed off from the rest of the video blogging world. Sure it is very tight-knit and friendly, but the group seems to have hovered around the 50-250 participating members since last year. There must be a way to bridge the gap between all the other vloggers. -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On Tue, 09 May 2006 23:14:40 +0200, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whats bothering me is is this needlessly harsh tone aimed at someone who was only pointing out that although this group has grown to over 2k people, its the 'old standards' that are in the top 50 users. That may not be a problem, it's simply raised the quesiton is the current format of the group contributing to the fact that there arent more new names in active posters list. a) It's not old standards who form the majority of the top 50 over the past month. [*] b) It only takes 6 e-mails to get on the famous top 50 list of internet fame. Whoopie. c) Even if it was, who cares? Exactly what would moving to a different format change? If people want to be heard they should post. There's no need to ask for permission, just post. Or should there be created rules along the lines of If you've been on the list for more than 18 months you may only post twice per week? [*] A quick skim tells me that only 6 of the people on the top 50 list for last month have been members of the group for 18 months (nov. 2004). (Jay, Me, Steve Garfield, Deirdré, Josh Kinberg, Andrew Baron). That's not a lot if you ask me. If you sort the member list by date joined you'll see all sorts of really awesome people who are no longer posting (like Sean Gillian and Lisa Harper). -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
On Tue, 09 May 2006 23:20:00 +0200, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mine is simple: open workshops where people help each other with all aspects of personal media Oh, hey, I know of a grassroots project you might be interested in. ;o) URL: http://node101.org/ -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
i apologize to Heath if my use of the word 'silly' hurt his feelings. if that came off as harsh, it was not intended (he is our Batman geek, after all). i meant it light-heartedly and it clearly did not come across that way to you david. silly is not a word i consider 'harsh', but i will try to be more careful with others in the future. for the record, you can generally tell when I'm being harsh when I punctuate my sentences with the words "dumb asshole" :) David Meade wrote: Whats bothering me is is this needlessly harsh tone aimed at someone who was only pointing out that although this group has grown to over 2k people, its the 'old standards' that are in the top 50 users. That may not be a problem, it's simply raised the quesiton" "is the current format of the group contributing to the fact that there arent more new names in active posters list". Theres no reason to insult just because you dont see a problem with the fact that the same people are contributing to the list ... some others in this thread are simply asking "would we see more participation from newer users and expand our network of friends if we were to present this FLOOD of information in another way". How can simply having that discussion warrant you ranking someones opinion on it as the silliest thing you've ever read. Vlogging about the yahoo group isn't likely to inspire lurkers to become active. So what would? (I doubt them seeing people attack perfectly reasonable discussion as 'the silliest thing' ever read is going to do it) -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Bridging The Gap
Writing this before I read them all and before I forget, so I apologize in advance if it has already been said. I have been a Yahoo list member (that moniker ought to date me well) for about 10 years now, and it has always struck me how inadequate the lists are at developing a community. Lists are great for announcements, but horrible for conversations. There is no permanence to these lists; every conversation is a flash in the pan. How many times does the same, or similar question get asked? Can you research a topic on this list? What if you come in late, as I did? Surf through thousands of posts most of which are of no interest to me? This was the problem with the discdog lists on Yahoo. the list functioned perfectly for announcements but was sorely lacking in terms of building a community. The lack of permanence, I believe, is the big shortcoming of these lists in developing a community. First off there is the difficulty of finding information that is of interest to you; drilling down into the thousands of messages with different subjects is near impossible. Then there is the fact that people can say anything they want and it is gone, never to be seen again. This allows people to really act shitty towards eachother. 2 years ago i created http://k9disc.com (orignially a phpBB) as an alternative to the lists. It was slow going at first, as none of the discdogging heavy hitters hopped on the band wagon, and a bunch still are not members, but it really picked up steam, and we now have 227 or so members and nearly 8000 posts. It has been an invaluable resource for new discdog players across the world. Things are divided up into topics, and while there are a lot of posts, at least you have a topic that you can start your drilling in. I am all for a bridging the gap with a good forum set up instead of this list. I am sure I would participate more. I would also be able to learn so much more. Anybody know how to run scoop? Great program for communities, and it totally could handle 1000 members. Later, Ron SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
sigh On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) It's not old standards who form the majority of the top 50 over thepast month. [*][*] A quick skim tells me that only 6 of the people on the top 50 list for last month have been members of the group for 18 months (nov. 2004). (Jay, Me, Steve Garfield, Deirdré, Josh Kinberg, Andrew Baron). That's not a lot if you ask me. If you sort the member list by date joined you'll see all sorts of really awesome people who are no longer posting (like Sean Gillian and Lisa Harper). You have a fairly restrictive view of 'old standards' ... b) It only takes 6 e-mails to get on the famous top 50 list of internetfame. Whoopie. ok ... only 6 ... and yet still it all very well known names. Adjust your definition of old standards to people who have been active for an entire year ... most of those names will be on it. c) Even if it was, who cares? Exactly what would moving to a different format change? Thats a very good question. one we are trying to discuss. I dont see why people are insulting others. If people want to be heard they should post. There's noneed to ask for permission, just post. And yet this insight doesnt seem to do the trick. So ... we're left with the question that all this hostility is trying to dance around: Given the fact that now nobody needs PERMISSION to post ... would they feel more WELCOME to do so in a forum like environment. Or should there be created rulesalong the lines of If you've been on the list for more than 18 months you may only post twice per week? ok ... so far off the mark I'm not sure where to start with this. The concern is NOT that old standards are posting to much, but rather that newbies may feel too overwhelmed to join in as well. I give up. apparently somewhere between 12months as a member and 18months as a member you stop enjoying discussion of new ideas. - Dave -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
You should try a threaded mail reader such as Thunderbird. Then you can ignore the subjects that look boring. Dennis Poulette wrote: I think the sheer number of posts per day makes it hard to keep up with the group. In my situation, I was just a subscriber and checked the group online. Then, I subscribed to receive the digest, which is hard to respond to an individual post. Now, I receive every post as an email. It's still overwhelming to look in your inbox and read 50 posts everyday. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
David Meade wrote: sigh On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If people want to be heard they should post. There's no need to ask for permission, just post. And yet this insight doesnt seem to do the trick. So ... we're left with the question that all this hostility is trying to dance around: Given the fact that now nobody needs PERMISSION to post ... would they feel more WELCOME to do so in a forum like environment. Seems like rather a disruptive way to find out, no? So we tear down this group, start a forum, shift everyone over, and then check to see if we have more posters? If we have fewer, should we move back here? SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I'm not making a suggestion for change ... I'm asking about impact of it.On 5/9/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Meade wrote: sigh On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If people want to be heard they should post. There's no need to ask for permission, just post. And yet this insight doesnt seem to do the trick. So ... we're left with the question that all this hostility is trying to dance around: Given the fact that now nobody needs PERMISSION to post ... would they feel more WELCOME to do so in a forum like environment. Seems like rather a disruptive way to find out, no? So we tear down this group, start a forum, shift everyone over, and then check to see if we have more posters? If we have fewer, should we move back here? SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
ok maybe I'm just in a bad mood and reading between the lines when I shouldn't be ... sorry. However ... This topic has come up several times. And as Heath points out, that wouldn't be the case if it were in fact the silliest idea ever presented here ... clearly there are some pros to the idea. And yet, each time it has come up, its been so immediately scoffed at, flamed, and scolded *by the heavy contributors of this list* ... that the real benefits to the lurkers never really gets a chance at honest discussion ... an irony that really ticks me off. *huff*huff*huff* .. ok I'm gonna go take my 'meds' now. - DaveOn 5/9/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i apologize to Heath if my use of the word 'silly' hurt his feelings. if that came off as harsh, it was not intended (he is our Batman geek, after all). i meant it light-heartedly and it clearly did not come across that way to you david. silly is not a word i consider 'harsh', but i will try to be more careful with others in the future. for the record, you can generally tell when I'm being harsh when I punctuate my sentences with the words dumb asshole :) David Meade wrote: Whats bothering me is is this needlessly harsh tone aimed at someone who was only pointing out that although this group has grown to over 2k people, its the 'old standards' that are in the top 50 users. That may not be a problem, it's simply raised the quesiton is the current format of the group contributing to the fact that there arent more new names in active posters list. Theres no reason to insult just because you dont see a problem with the fact that the same people are contributing to the list ... some others in this thread are simply asking would we see more participation from newer users and expand our network of friends if we were to present this FLOOD of information in another way. How can simply having that discussion warrant you ranking someones opinion on it as the silliest thing you've ever read. Vlogging about the yahoo group isn't likely to inspire lurkers to become active. So what would? (I doubt them seeing people attack perfectly reasonable discussion as 'the silliest thing' ever read is going to do it) -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.orghttp://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I'm not convinced that there is a problem besides the near impossibility of searching these Yahoo archives. I don't find the existence of the ubiquitous power-law distribution of post activity to be cause for alarm. David Meade wrote: I'm not making a suggestion for change ... I'm asking about impact of it. On 5/9/06, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Meade wrote: sigh On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If people want to be heard they should post. There's no need to ask for permission, just post. And yet this insight doesnt seem to do the trick. So ... we're left with the question that all this hostility is trying to dance around: Given the fact that now nobody needs PERMISSION to post ... would they feel more WELCOME to do so in a forum like environment. Seems like rather a disruptive way to find out, no? So we tear down this group, start a forum, shift everyone over, and then check to see if we have more posters? If we have fewer, should we move back here? SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- http://www.DavidMeade.com feed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I'm not sure what we can do as a larger community, but as the only developer of VlogMap, my mind is centric to the site... I'm not trying to compete with other sites, but I do feel a responsibility to those who visit VlogMap. Over the past year, I've analyzed where visitors come from and what paths they take through the site. Most are not vloggers and many have very little knowledge of what we are doing. If we can welcome them and educate them on the basics, we may be rewarded with more vloggers. Combine the issue of non-vloggers, those who are technically challenged, and people who are not comfortable with English, and it becomes hard to build a site that caters to each. My intention for building forums and a handbook was to bridge the gap between tech- and non-tech vloggers, as well as vloggers and non-vloggers. I see forums has something that is mainly used by existing vloggers (searched for info by all) and the handbook as a way for everyone to teach/learn more. There is indeed a problem with repeat questions and the inability to find answers here on the Yahoo Group. It is my opinion that this group is very powerful, yet very small. We cannont expect everyone to come join this group and keep up on the myriad of discussions. There aren't even 1,000 vlogs mapped yet (many are not part of this group), BUT there is a large influx of viewers on VlogMap. It would be nice to get help in educating them. I simply do not have ability to manage all this, but they are here now. The solution does not have to be VlogMap-based, but I'm not sure where to begin the education process. -Matt -- http://vlogmap.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I totally agree with your assessment of the functionality of Yahoo Groups. I've been using it since before it was Yahoo groups and Yahoo has done little to improve it. Most of the improvements to the system have been cosmetic. I much prefer what Google has done with their groups. I started a PHPbb forum at Garagepunk.com about 5 years ago with a friend of mine. We currently have 3,214 members (larger than this list I think) and the forum structure works out much better for starting and sustaining conversations IMHO. People can browse the topics they are interested in and connect more easily with like minded individuals. But I'm sure you all know this already. Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Writing this before I read them all and before I forget, so I apologize in advance if it has already been said. I have been a Yahoo list member (that moniker ought to date me well) for about 10 years now, and it has always struck me how inadequate the lists are at developing a community. Lists are great for announcements, but horrible for conversations. There is no permanence to these lists; every conversation is a flash in the pan. How many times does the same, or similar question get asked? Can you research a topic on this list? What if you come in late, as I did? Surf through thousands of posts most of which are of no interest to me? This was the problem with the discdog lists on Yahoo. the list functioned perfectly for announcements but was sorely lacking in terms of building a community. The lack of permanence, I believe, is the big shortcoming of these lists in developing a community. First off there is the difficulty of finding information that is of interest to you; drilling down into the thousands of messages with different subjects is near impossible. Then there is the fact that people can say anything they want and it is gone, never to be seen again. This allows people to really act shitty towards eachother. 2 years ago i created http://k9disc.com (orignially a phpBB) as an alternative to the lists. It was slow going at first, as none of the discdogging heavy hitters hopped on the band wagon, and a bunch still are not members, but it really picked up steam, and we now have 227 or so members and nearly 8000 posts. It has been an invaluable resource for new discdog players across the world. Things are divided up into topics, and while there are a lot of posts, at least you have a topic that you can start your drilling in. I am all for a bridging the gap with a good forum set up instead of this list. I am sure I would participate more. I would also be able to learn so much more. Anybody know how to run scoop? Great program for communities, and it totally could handle 1000 members. Later, Ron SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Maybe this list is what it is and that's fine. There are other places and lists to handle other things.Ryanne and I have worked really hard to make Freevlog easy and cover most every newbie question. When we did our first big launch a year ago we had a message board but nobody used it (we got about 2 or 3 posts total). Most people just emailed us and what we found was that almost all of those questions could be handled by making the tutorials better. Now we probably average about 1 help email a day. Sometimes we get questions in another language and one of our translators takes it. All in all I'd say that most of the really basic stuff is covered. We even have text versions of the main tutorials and of course you can get it all in handy book form :) What I think is really great about this list is that we can talk about all kinds of stuff. And yes, some of it is very technical but that's a good thing. When I first joined the list, a couple of people were going on and on about something called RSS. Those emails just looked like blah blah blah to me at first. Then, once Me-TV (Mefeedia) and ANT (FireAnt) came out and I could see what you could use RSS for it started to make sense. I guess the point is this: early on I was a newbie who said why don't we make this a message board so we can find stuff better? and that didn't happen so I (and others) went out and addressed that in ohter ways. Now I think this list does the job that it does just fine. Maybe I should make a tutorial on how to subscribe and read this list.1. Use something threaded like Gmail2. Set up a rule/filter so it doesn't all show up in your inbox3. Ignore threads you're not interested in 4. Flag the ones you're watching5. Mark everything that's dropped out of view as read-Verdi SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On Tue, 09 May 2006 23:55:25 +0200, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give up. apparently somewhere between 12months as a member and 18months as a member you stop enjoying discussion of new ideas. Life is too short for ad hominem arguments. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I've actually met several lurkers on this list in person (you might be surprised who is lurking here). Often they are happy to sit back and watch the conversation as it happens -- though there is certainly a lot of conversation to take in on this list as it can be high-flow at times. Make no mistake about it -- there is great information that passes through here, from new ideas and new trends, technical innovation, and best practices for media makers and videobloggers exploring new possibilities. -Josh On 5/9/06, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 23:55:25 +0200, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give up. apparently somewhere between 12months as a member and 18months as a member you stop enjoying discussion of new ideas. Life is too short for ad hominem arguments. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Promotional Vlogcaster needed-part time
We are looking for a female because our golf audience is mostly male. We could have our opinion altered if we found someone who is good. randy SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I'm not giving up that easy, here my forum scope; I think this Yahoo videoblogging discussion-group needs to stay, no need for everyone to transfer to a forum. However to have access to more static information like video-hosting, editing software, aggregators, search engines and the like it would be better of in a forum. The whole reason http://vlogassist.com was build (April 2006) is to fill this gap. Searching is more effective and posts are more grouped together per subject. At the moment there are 244 articles. I do not have to go over all the points already mentioned by other members I guess. Vlogassist was build with PHPBB as some people already told you in previous posts. I run another forum with 524 member, a very specific forum for Dutch-American couples so not really new to this kind of setup. ( http://usadutch.com/forum ) Just installing a forum is not the way to start that's why mods are added, to name a few; 1. Embedded video (windows media and quicktime..more if needed.) 2. A lexicon that highlights words automatically and produces links to the lexicon. 3. RSS feed public reading (all posts included in one stream). 4. A members build it yourself RSS feed per forum with volume definition and sorted on forum or date and time. 5. Email status mail like Yahoo but per forum object configurable. 6. Today/Yesterday indicators for each post. 7. Choose your own forum color. 8. Website-list for members (This is different then a member-list) And these are just the highlights but specially selected for a vloggerforum. Please take a look and as an incentive for new members I will give away 5 domain names and later on 5 free 1 year website hosting, the rules are already published on May 3rd the only thing in return is a FREE membership for you! Please join and contribute, become a member, moderator or poster, whatever makes vlogging more fun. (Did you know Andreas is a member as well as Chuck Olson , JoshLeo, Devlon, Paulreyno, Maddman just to name a few. They must have seen some value in this forum I think.) And yes there is a link-button to vlogmap.org and more links will be added. Actually there are about 100 links throughout the whole forum. Blips http://vlogassist.com the videoblogging resource http://vlogmatic.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Haugstrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 May 2006 23:55:25 +0200, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I give up. apparently somewhere between 12months as a member and 18months as a member you stop enjoying discussion of new ideas. Life is too short for ad hominem arguments. -- Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Promotional Vlogcaster needed-part time
We are looking for a female because our golf audience is mostly male.of course. do you need a full body pose or will a head shot suffice?On 5/9/06, arizpgapro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking for a female because our golf audience is mostly male.We could have our opinion altered if we found someone who is good.randy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is oneclick away. Make Yahoo! your home pagenow.http://us.click.yahoo.com/AHchtC/4FxNAA/yQLSAA/lBLqlB/TM~- Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/-- Anne Walkhttp://loadedpun.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Promotional Vlogcaster needed-part time
On 5/9/06, arizpgapro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking for a female because our golf audience is mostly male.rantFor golf, (not being a huge golfer myself...I throw clubs too often) I would say that I mostly see men golfing, men talking about golf, therefore a man who knows about golf would be the logical choice. To request a female leads me to believe that you aren't looking for someone who knows anything about golf, but are looking for a chicky that will pull an audience.I'll leave it alone, but these days it's all about the girl in front of the camerait's so old media. /rant We could have our opinion altered if we found someone who is good. randy SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . -- ~Devlonhttp://loadedpun.com | http://mefeedia.com http://8bitme.blogspot.com | http://devlonduthie.com SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Okay, if you want to gain some *real* insight to this group, compare it to others. Microsoft has done a lot of research in this area (newsgroups), and the research is freely available. Check it out for yourself, run the numbers, and draw your own conclusions: http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/ Personally, I find this group to be a tremendous asset to the videoblogging community as a whole. People lurk. People post. People flame. It's all normal. Where we fall in the categorization of a group, well, you decide. I post very rarely, and mostly in regard to technical issues that nobody else seems to be chiming in on. It doesn't mean I'm not an active member, I've just found my particular role here (which may change at any time). -- joshpaul SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
Well I was going to reply to Markus, but David kinda beat me to the punch..Just to clairfy, I was not suggesting that the group has not grown with the membership, which is what I think you thought I meant (man that just gave me a headache writing that).. Anywho, sometimes I am writing from work and I get in a hurry because big brother is always watching at work, so in my head something makes perfect sense, but not always so once it is written out. In relation to what was written and had been written, I was simply suggesting that maybe that this group can be overwhelming to a new person(I think it can, I know I get overwhelmed, I am not a super tech I know enough to be dangerous) and maybe as the vlogging universe grows that perhaps this group should grow in a different way. I am sure this group has grown and morphed in many, many ways I am not aware of. But if something does come up over and over... Anyway, I think I am going to check out vloggassit again and give it a closer look, information overload never hurt anyone right? As to me being a Batman Geek and silly.., prick me, do I not bleed, hurt me do I not cry, tell me Marvel is better than DC do I not come to your house in the middle of the night andum..forget that last part. Heath - Batman Geek http://batmangeek.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok maybe I'm just in a bad mood and reading between the lines when I shouldn't be ... sorry. However ... This topic has come up several times. And as Heath points out, that wouldn't be the case if it were in fact the silliest idea ever presented here ... clearly there are some pros to the idea. And yet, each time it has come up, its been so immediately scoffed at, flamed, and scolded *by the heavy contributors of this list* ... that the real benefits to the lurkers never really gets a chance at honest discussion ... an irony that really ticks me off. *huff*huff*huff* .. ok I'm gonna go take my 'meds' now. - Dave On 5/9/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i apologize to Heath if my use of the word 'silly' hurt his feelings. if that came off as harsh, it was not intended (he is our Batman geek, after all). i meant it light-heartedly and it clearly did not come across that way to you david. silly is not a word i consider 'harsh', but i will try to be more careful with others in the future. for the record, you can generally tell when I'm being harsh when I punctuate my sentences with the words dumb asshole :) David Meade wrote: Whats bothering me is is this needlessly harsh tone aimed at someone who was only pointing out that although this group has grown to over 2k people, its the 'old standards' that are in the top 50 users. That may not be a problem, it's simply raised the quesiton is the current format of the group contributing to the fact that there arent more new names in active posters list. Theres no reason to insult just because you dont see a problem with the fact that the same people are contributing to the list ... some others in this thread are simply asking would we see more participation from newer users and expand our network of friends if we were to present this FLOOD of information in another way. How can simply having that discussion warrant you ranking someones opinion on it as the silliest thing you've ever read. Vlogging about the yahoo group isn't likely to inspire lurkers to become active. So what would? (I doubt them seeing people attack perfectly reasonable discussion as 'the silliest thing' ever read is going to do it) -- Markus Sandy http://apperceptions.org http://spinflow.org SPONSORED LINKS Fireanthttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Fireantw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52. sig=9OOEc0FndaSrZhcGP9B0FA Individualhttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Individualw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=5 2.sig=95kPiyX0utggsk9QwKxV-w Usehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Usew1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52.sig= mOj_Rib6MbsFKGpPQ8b4Vg Explainshttp://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Explainsw1=Fireantw2=Individualw3=Usew4=Explainsc=4s=52 .sig=2nX88YAu-OvryCSd54cZHQ -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS - Visit your group videoblogginghttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging on the web. - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]videoblogging- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- -- http://www.DavidMeade.com feed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On 5/9/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make no mistake about it -- there is great information thatpasses through here, from new ideas and new trends, technicalinnovation, and best practices for media makers and videobloggersexploring new possibilities. But, again thats not the issue. And I'm not making any such mistake, myself ... as I said earlier: This is clearly a great group, and has great information for those just starting. No body is saying otherwise. The simple question was essentially 'is there a better way for this group to present that information to make it more accessible for those people who cant follow the topic well enough yet to be like you and join a dozen different groups to find the information. If the answer is No, its no. If the answer is Yes its yes. But saying this list has great ideas in it already doesnt address the issue. The question wasnt how can we get better information out there it was how can we get information out there better. Anyway ... this topic is so all over the map now, I doubt this thread can really discuss it fairly ... no matter we'll do the same run around again in six months. :-P - Dave-- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed:http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
There is a piece of software for phpBB that allows a user to insert the posts from a Yahoo group, like this, into your phpBB DB. I was going to use it for k9discussion, but I was afraid that I would have problems with the list owners. The discdog world is quite...interesting... let's say. We are a dysfunctional, but largely happy community. We had 5 guys going through 10,000 or so messages before I pulled the plug. That is a way that you could grab all of the info from this list and populate a forum with good information from here.Just thought I would share that. I can find out what the app is called that does that, if you want. Ron WatsonPawsitive Vybe Canines12 E Bridge St Suite GRockford, MI 49341[EMAIL PROTECTED]301.524.6670http://pawsitivevybe.comhttp://k9disc.comhttp://k9disc.blip.tv On May 9, 2006, at 9:16 PM, David Meade wrote: On 5/9/06, Joshua Kinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make no mistake about it -- there is great information thatpasses through here, from new ideas and new trends, technicalinnovation, and best practices for media makers and videobloggersexploring new possibilities. But, again thats not the issue. And I'm not making any such mistake, myself ... as I said earlier: "This is clearly a great group, and has great information for those just starting. No body is saying otherwise. The simple question was essentially 'is there a better way for this group to present that information to make it more accessible "for those people who cant follow the topic well enough yet to be like you and join a dozen different groups to find the information." If the answer is No, its no. If the answer is Yes its yes. But saying "this list has great ideas in it already" doesnt address the issue. The question wasnt "how can we get better information out there" it was "how can we get information out there better". Anyway ... this topic is so all over the map now, I doubt this thread can really discuss it fairly ... no matter we'll do the same run around again in six months. :-P - Dave-- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
On 5/9/06, Michael Verdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I should make a tutorial on how to subscribe and read this list.1. Use something threaded like Gmail2. Set up a rule/filter so it doesn't all show up in your inbox3. Ignore threads you're not interested in 4. Flag the ones you're watching5. Mark everything that's dropped out of view as read That's not a bad idea. Gmail (or similar reader) is approximately 1.7billion times better than the yahoo groups page, and its 'search mail' feature makes searches much easier. (If you do do something like that, be sure to mention Gmail Lables :-) -- http://www.DavidMeade.comfeed: http://www.DavidMeade.com/feed SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Bridging The Gap
I ran a query for groups that contain videoblog and ended up with zero matches. What query do you use?On 5/9/06, Joshua Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, if you want to gain some *real* insight to this group, compare it to others. Microsoft has done a lot of research in this area (newsgroups), and the research is freely available. Check it out for yourself, run the numbers, and draw your own conclusions: http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/ Personally, I find this group to be a tremendous asset to the videoblogging community as a whole. People lurk. People post. People flame. It's all normal. Where we fall in the categorization of a group, well, you decide. I post very rarely, and mostly in regard to technical issues that nobody else seems to be chiming in on. It doesn't mean I'm not an active member, I've just found my particular role here (which may change at any time). -- joshpaul SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group videoblogging on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Ted TagamiFounding Partner Universus Networks, LLCU N I V E R S U S . N E TVideo Bloggers Podcasting Vloggercon.com - San FranciscoJune 10th and 11th, 2006 SPONSORED LINKS Fireant Individual Use Explains YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "videoblogging" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
