Re: ViA app aggregates apps for VI users and teachers

[Esther]

Hello Ryan,

I've only started taking a look at the ViA app, which looks interesting, but 
when I clicked on the link for the LookTel Money Reader app review at the 
AppleVis site, I got the review for the LookTel Recognizer app instead (also a 
very good app, but maybe you want this to be a separate entry under your 
"Featured Apps"?)

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 21, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Ryan Honey wrote:

> I've been following this group for a while but this is my first post. I work 
> for Braille Institute and we've just released ViA, a free app that aggregates 
> and categorizes apps that are useful to VI uses and educators. I'd like to 
> invite this community to use it and provide feedback. There is one issue with 
> Voice Over that comes up when it reads an apps star rating that we are 
> fixing. Otherwise, it is fully accessible, including pinch zoom capability on 
> any page for low vision users  Any suggestions are welcome and I encourage 
> you to use the built in accessibility rating system to share your knowledge 
> of apps that are useful to you. Let me know if we can make this app better. 
> Thanks. 
> 

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ViA app aggregates apps for VI users and teachers

[Ryan Honey]

FYI its easier to find the app by searching Braille Institute instead of ViA 
since the app is so new. 

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Re: Getting Fleksy

[Sagar Verma]

yep mate i'm from india but i'm leaving in australia do u have  skype
buddy or viber

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> Sagar,
>
> I am from India.  Your name suggests that you are also from India, aren't
> you?
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ViA app aggregates apps for VI users and teachers

[Ryan Honey]

I've been following this group for a while but this is my first post. I work 
for Braille Institute and we've just released ViA, a free app that aggregates 
and categorizes apps that are useful to VI uses and educators. I'd like to 
invite this community to use it and provide feedback. There is one issue with 
Voice Over that comes up when it reads an apps star rating that we are fixing. 
Otherwise, it is fully accessible, including pinch zoom capability on any page 
for low vision users  Any suggestions are welcome and I encourage you to use 
the built in accessibility rating system to share your knowledge of apps that 
are useful to you. Let me know if we can make this app better. Thanks. 

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Re: Over Drive app?

[Esther]

Hi Joney,

I can't respond to the unexpected crashes issues.  Perhaps this was a 
problematic download?  To delete books from the list of downloaded, double tap 
the "Edit" button in the top left corner of the screen.  It will turn into a 
"Done" button.  Move your finger vertically down the left side of the screen 
from this "Done" button to the title you want to delete.  I usually do a split 
tap here -- I keep my forefinger on the screen and tap with my middle finger.  
There is a delete button to the left of each entry that VoiceOver is not 
announcing in the OverDrive app.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Joney wrote:

> The problems I have with Overdrive are that I cannot delete a book from the
> list when finished and it crashes unexpectedly while reading audio books and
> you have to
> 
> 
> re enter the program and find your reading place again to continue.
> Otherwise, choosing books and getting them from the libraries selection to
> read is easy. *smile* 
> Hope this makes sense.
> 
> 

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RE: Unable to perform the back command on my Bluetooth Keyboard using Voice Over

[Debbie April Yuille]

Thanks, I'll try it.

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Of Sandy Tomkins
Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2012 12:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Unable to perform the back command on my Bluetooth Keyboard
using Voice Over

Hi,

I have sometimes found this and have discovered that it works if i
toggle QuickNav to off by pressing the left and right arrows simultaneously.
HTH, Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Jul 2012, at 14:51, "Debbie April Yuille" 
wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> I have a Bluetooth keyboard case for my iPad and I'm not able to 
> execute any back buttons as the keyboard's escape key performs the 
> home function in stead. Does anyone know of a way to perform the back 
> command using another command on the keyboard using VoiceOver?
> 
> Thanks
> Debbie
> 
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Google Contacts [was "Re: Typing in the Body of a Message with the Gmail App"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

You can set up an Exchange account to sync your Google Contacts. Based
on advice on this list, that's what I do. I use the builtin mail client
and IMAP to read my email on my iPhone and set up an Exchange account
just to sync my contacts.

On 21/07/12 18:21, Chuck Dean wrote:
> Hi Sharonda,
> I downloaded this app and tried it. It is not possible to get the cursor
> into the message body area with voice over on. I had to turn Voice over
> off, and tap in the message body area, then turn voice over back on.
> 
> This is a terrible app from a voice over point of view. None of the
> buttons are labeled.
> It is hard to navigate and has no Voice over friendly attributes.
> 
> I use the email client in the iPhone's settings very successfully with G
> Mail.
> You can manage multiple accounts and access all of your mail boxes and
> folders.
> The only downside is that you will not get the G Mail contact list, that
> you will need to import into your contacts manually.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:39:59 PM UTC-7, Sharonda wrote:
> 
> Hello listers,
> I am definitely having an issue. I downloaded the gmail app onto my
> iPhone 4S in hopes
> that I could compose messages right from my phone. I have to gmail
> accounts and thought that having the gmail app would help separate my
> accounts. Previously I just read my email from Safari in this
> account.
> 
> Antyways, I now have the gmail app. I can write in my subject and whom
> I'm addressing the message to. However, I cannot find where to write
> in the body of a message. Please, can someone shed some light on this
> mystery? How  do I get to the blank area to type in a message? Thanks
> so much.
> 
> Sharonda
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Try Using a Split Tap to activate Text Detective's "Start Scan" button [was Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps]

[Esther]

Hi Sandy and Others,

I wrote this comment in another post discussing the Text Detective app, but 
I'll make the suggestion here.  One way to minimize the problems with trying to 
hold the iPhone steady, lift it, and still hit the button to activate the 
camera for OCR is to place your forefinger on the "Start Scan" button when you 
hold your camera. I have my thumbs around the bottom edge of the iPhone (held 
in landscape mode), my right forefinger resting on the screen and on "Start 
Scan" button, and pointing parallel to the bottom edge of the iPhone, generally 
in the direction of the "Home" button, which is to the left in this case, and 
the other fingers of my hand around the top edge of the iPhone, and supporting 
it.  Basically, my thumb and ring finger or middle finger of each hand is 
circling the right and left side edges of the iPhone and supporting it in 
landscape mode, and I can rest my forefinger on the screen. If you swipe your 
forefinger up and down, windshield wiper fashion, it will touch the three 
sections where VoiceOver announces "Text Detective", then the "Tap the `Start 
Scan' button…" instructions, and the "Start Scan" button.  I leave it resting 
on the "Start Scan" button as I lift the iPhone.  Then I can split tap on the 
screen with the forefinger of my left hand to activate the button.

Because the phone is support by hands, the light tap on the screen to activate 
the button doesn't jostle the iPhone.  Practice holding the iPhone in landscape 
mode with your hands in a comfortable position to do the split tap without 
having to do the lift.  Then, when you're comfortable with this (or as 
comfortable as you can manage to be with your hands in this position *grin*), 
go ahead and try lifting and tapping.

I sympathize with your point about having to do umpteen different things at 
once and keep the device flat and steady while tapping the button.  And I do 
like the feature of Prizmo  where you can use your voice to activate the 
picture taking.  But please don't give up on these apps.  Eventually, we'll 
find some combination of features that will work for us.

Best wishes,

Esther


On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

> Actually, the KNFB Reader mobile requires you to hit a button while you are 
> holding the camera. it takes a real feat of coordination.
>  
> Andy
>  
> From: Sandy Finley
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
> Scott, thank you for responding.  I will not delete the app in hopes of 
> future adjustments. It seems as if no scanning app on a mobile phone works as 
> well as larger scanners guess that’s to be expected. I will go write 
> something on your blog later. Have a good day!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Rumery
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>  
> Sandy, I am the one that wrote this blog post, and I completely agree with 
> you about the tapping to start the scan issue.  I think that is important to 
> remember that this is the first version of this app, and it might be a good 
> idea if those of us who have bought this app contact the developer with our 
> comments so that they will know what some of our issues with the app is.  I 
> for one have had very good results with Text Detective and have no trouble 
> recommending it to others.  I really do appreciate your comments and if you 
> didn't leave a comment on our blog would you please do so?  This is how we 
> will be able to keep track of how many people we are getting to read our blog 
> posts.
>  
> If you have any suggestions as to an app or something with the iPhone that I 
> can write please let me know and I will see if I can put a future post. 
> together.
>  
> Scott E. Rumery
>  
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Fedora Outlier LLC
> http://www.fedoraoutler.com
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> On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:
> 
> 
> Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
> scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady 
> and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally 
> blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure 
> isn’t working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have 
> had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate 
> the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising 
> the camera.
>  
> Sandy
>  
>  
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Re: Typing in the Body of a Message with the Gmail App

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

I ditched the Gmail app and used the email app. I set it up in
Settings and it was very straightforward too.

On 7/21/12, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm just curious, but how did you get up and running? Did you get the
> Gmail app to work for you or did you use the builtin email app to access
> your Gmail?
>
> On 21/07/12 19:01, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote:
>> As you can see, I am up and running! Thanks for all help!
>> Sharonda
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Chuck Dean > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sharonda,
>>> I downloaded this app and tried it. It is not possible to get the
>>> cursor into the message body area with voice over on. I had to turn
>>> Voice over off, and tap in the message body area, then turn voice over
>>> back on.
>>>
>>> This is a terrible app from a voice over point of view. None of the
>>> buttons are labeled.
>>> It is hard to navigate and has no Voice over friendly attributes.
>>>
>>> I use the email client in the iPhone's settings very successfully with
>>> G Mail.
>>> You can manage multiple accounts and access all of your mail boxes and
>>> folders.
>>> The only downside is that you will not get the G Mail contact list,
>>> that you will need to import into your contacts manually.
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:39:59 PM UTC-7, Sharonda wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello listers,
>>> I am definitely having an issue. I downloaded the gmail app onto my
>>> iPhone 4S in hopes
>>> that I could compose messages right from my phone. I have to gmail
>>> accounts and thought that having the gmail app would help separate
>>> my
>>> accounts. Previously I just read my email from Safari in this
>>> account.
>>>
>>> Antyways, I now have the gmail app. I can write in my subject and
>>> whom
>>> I'm addressing the message to. However, I cannot find where to write
>>> in the body of a message. Please, can someone shed some light on
>>> this
>>> mystery? How  do I get to the blank area to type in a message?
>>> Thanks
>>> so much.
>>>
>>> Sharonda
>>> --
>>> Sharonda Greenlaw
>>> President (Phoenix Chapter)
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> -
>>> Come, read and take a journey with me at
>>> www.WorldOfShariG.blogspot.com
>>> 
>>> or find me here:
>>> http:\\shari_greenlaw.livejournal.com
>>> 
>>> Skype: sharonda2004
>>> Twitter: shari_rocks
>>> Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw
>>> 
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Re: Typing in the Body of a Message with the Gmail App

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm just curious, but how did you get up and running? Did you get the
Gmail app to work for you or did you use the builtin email app to access
your Gmail?

On 21/07/12 19:01, Sharonda Greenlaw wrote:
> As you can see, I am up and running! Thanks for all help! 
> Sharonda
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Chuck Dean  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sharonda,
>> I downloaded this app and tried it. It is not possible to get the
>> cursor into the message body area with voice over on. I had to turn
>> Voice over off, and tap in the message body area, then turn voice over
>> back on.
>>
>> This is a terrible app from a voice over point of view. None of the
>> buttons are labeled.
>> It is hard to navigate and has no Voice over friendly attributes.
>>
>> I use the email client in the iPhone's settings very successfully with
>> G Mail.
>> You can manage multiple accounts and access all of your mail boxes and
>> folders.
>> The only downside is that you will not get the G Mail contact list,
>> that you will need to import into your contacts manually.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:39:59 PM UTC-7, Sharonda wrote:
>>
>> Hello listers,
>> I am definitely having an issue. I downloaded the gmail app onto my
>> iPhone 4S in hopes
>> that I could compose messages right from my phone. I have to gmail
>> accounts and thought that having the gmail app would help separate my
>> accounts. Previously I just read my email from Safari in this
>> account.
>>
>> Antyways, I now have the gmail app. I can write in my subject and
>> whom
>> I'm addressing the message to. However, I cannot find where to write
>> in the body of a message. Please, can someone shed some light on this
>> mystery? How  do I get to the blank area to type in a message? Thanks
>> so much.
>>
>> Sharonda
>> -- 
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>> President (Phoenix Chapter)
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> -
>> Come, read and take a journey with me at
>> www.WorldOfShariG.blogspot.com
>> 
>> or find me here:
>> http:\\shari_greenlaw.livejournal.com
>> 
>> Skype: sharonda2004
>> Twitter: shari_rocks
>> Facebook: facebook.com/TheSharondaWhiteGreenlaw
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RE: Over Drive app?

[Joney]

The problems I have with Overdrive are that I cannot delete a book from the
list when finished and it crashes unexpectedly while reading audio books and
you have to

 
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Otherwise, choosing books and getting them from the libraries selection to
read is easy. *smile* 
Hope this makes sense.

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Re: Text Detective [was "Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps"]

[Andy Baracco]

Well, Sherlock Holmes is a detective, so not difficult to deduce.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Text Detective [was "Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps"]

Are you saying that the subject line should be changed to include "Text
Detective" so people wanting information on Text Detective could easily
find it in the future? If so, I went ahead and added that to the subject
line, but there's no reason you couldn't have done that as well Jon!
*smile* This is not a serious complaint or criticism, but just a gentle
nudge.

Also, although it's true that "Text Detective" wasn't in the subject
line, "OCR" was, so I think most people looking for information on Text
Detective would still stumble across it, but thinking about good subject
lines is a good point. I was looking through my folders on posts
concerning GPS apps, and I definitely appreciate good subject lines!

On 21/07/12 14:26, Jon Pierson wrote:

Hi,
Just a quick comment on the subject line here. Anyone looking for Text
Detective won't find this thread.

Jon


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

Hi Chuck,

How far from what your are trying to scan do you hold your phone?  I would
recommend that you experiment with this and each time that you get a scan
with a lot of gibberish just move the phone a little closer to your
document.  Remember that good lighting is crucial to a successful scan.


Scott E. Rumery

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On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:


I have had no success with this app.
I followed the tips, and I am in normal office lighting. I have
tried to scan, an email, a electric bill, a letter, and a page from a 
book.

I have tried different positions, scan lengths ETC.
I will only get one or two words, and those are usually wrong.

out of curiosity I tried using Text grabber on the same material.
It worked about 90% of the time.
Any ideas?
Chuck




On Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:50:53 AM UTC-7, VaShaun Jones wrote:

How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR
solution for your IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple 
IOS

AppStore just may be what you have been waiting for.

The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article



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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Andy Baracco]

I think that this is because of the size of the camera lense.

Andy

From: Jenifer Gilley 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
The only problem I have with this ap is that I can never get a whole page!  
Quite frustrating as this ap seems to work the best for me!
Jenifer Gilley
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  From: Amy Billman 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:05 PM
  Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

  I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.

  I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but can 
with Text Detective.

  I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,) 
what works for one isn’t always going to work for another.

  Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and didn’t 
like it or it didn’t work for them, but maybe it would work for someone else, 
that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your money isn’t going 
to waste. *smile*

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandy Finley
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

   

  Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady and 
straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally blind. It 
may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure isn’t working 
for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have had has been with 
either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate the camera shutter, or 
SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising the camera.

   

  Sandy

   

   

   

   

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VaShaun Jones
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

   

  How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may be 
what you have been waiting for.

  The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article

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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Andy Baracco]

I have found this to be true of all of the apps. Even with the KNFB Reader, I 
almost never captured the whole page.

Andy

From: Jenifer Gilley 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
The only problem I have with this ap is that I can never get a whole page!  
Quite frustrating as this ap seems to work the best for me!
Jenifer Gilley
email
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claudas...@cox.net
  - Original Message - 
  From: Amy Billman 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:05 PM
  Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

  I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.

  I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but can 
with Text Detective.

  I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,) 
what works for one isn’t always going to work for another.

  Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and didn’t 
like it or it didn’t work for them, but maybe it would work for someone else, 
that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your money isn’t going 
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  Amy Billman

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandy Finley
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

   

  Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady and 
straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally blind. It 
may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure isn’t working 
for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have had has been with 
either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate the camera shutter, or 
SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising the camera.

   

  Sandy

   

   

   

   

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VaShaun Jones
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

   

  How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may be 
what you have been waiting for.

  The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article

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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Andy Baracco]

I do not believe so, but it should.  This would be a good recommendation to 
make.

Andy

From: Scott Howell 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
Does Text Detective leverage the flash on the iPHone? 

On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


  Hi Chuck, 

  How far from what your are trying to scan do you hold your phone?  I would 
recommend that you experiment with this and each time that you get a scan with 
a lot of gibberish just move the phone a little closer to your document.  
Remember that good lighting is crucial to a successful scan.


  Scott E. Rumery

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  On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:


I have had no success with this app.
I followed the tips, and I am in normal office lighting. I have tried to 
scan, an email, a electric bill, a letter, and a page from a book. I have tried 
different positions, scan lengths ETC.
I will only get one or two words, and those are usually wrong.

out of curiosity I tried using Text grabber on the same material.
It worked about 90% of the time.
Any ideas?
Chuck




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  How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for 
your IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just 
may be what you have been waiting for.

  The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article


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Re: purchasing Aps threw iTunes

[Andy Baracco]

The easiest way to purchase apps is through the App Store App on your phone.  
Just make sure that you have a stable WIFI connection. I have found that 
sometimes I can get away with downloading a small app via 3G, but WIFI
is advisable, especially with a large app like Navigon, which downloads map 
data.

Andy
From: Dianne B. Phelps 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: purchasing Aps threw iTunes
Sandy,

 

Thank you so much for explaining all that. Now, it makes sense to me, and I’ll 
have to try it soon. I am kind of interested in some of the word games 
mentioned among other things.

 

Dianne

 

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Sandy Finley
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: purchasing Aps threw iTunes

 

Michael, is there a reason you especially want to purchase apps via iTunes? I 
never buy apps that way and I have heard tell it’s a bit convoluted, although I 
can’t really say. I purchase them directly from the App Store. App store is one 
of the apps that was on the home screen when you bought your phone.  Click on 
it and on the bottom you will find some  choices: search, categories, update, 
top 25, featured. If there is a particular app you want use Search and type the 
app name into the search field and Apple will find it.  You can also browse 
categories. I personally find that tedious because the apps are not in 
alphabetical order so, unless I  have missed some kind of secret code,  finding 
one seems random at best.  You need to have a credit card on file to do all of 
this. Once you say you want to buy an app or install a free app, you will need 
your Apple password. Good luck and let me know if you need something more 
specific.

 

Sandy

Sandy

 

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Michael Amaro
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ppurchasing Aps threw iTunes

 

Hello Listers,

How do I go about purchasing aps threw iTunes? Can some one please give me step 
by step instructions?
Thanks
Michael
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RE: Magic jack

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Steve,

When you buy a Magic Jack, you put it into your computer and register it.
That is when you create your account and establish your number.  If you
don't have a Magic Jack, you can't do it.  The app was created to allow
Magic Jack owners to be able to use it on their mobile.

Ron & Danvers



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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magic jack

how do you set up an account without buying their  package?

SteveOn Jul 21, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

> Hi Steve.
> 
> First of all, you need to get a Magic Jack account which includes 
> picking your number and that has to be done on their web site.  When I 
> got the app, I already had that account and just installed the app and 
> it had a couple of text boxes in which I had to put in my user name 
> and password for my Magic Jack account.
> 
> It showed me my Magic Jack number and it started working immediately.
> 
> I didn't like the fact that the keypad said the word up before each
number.
> Something like up1 up2 or up3.  I used the 2 finger double tap to 
> rename each button and everything is working very well.
> 
> What I would do is make sure the account has been created properly, 
> that you have selected and got a number and then I would remove the 
> app and install it again.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Vandecar
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:09 PM
> To: IPhone List
> Subject: Magic jack
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I put magic jack on my phone and it worked good so decided to register 
> and get a magic jack number and not only did not bet a number but I 
> can't use the app and have reinstalled it.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks
> Steve
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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, the KNFB Reader mobile requires you to hit a button while you are 
holding the camera. it takes a real feat of coordination.

Andy

From: Sandy Finley 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
Scott, thank you for responding.  I will not delete the app in hopes of future 
adjustments. It seems as if no scanning app on a mobile phone works as well as 
larger scanners guess that’s to be expected. I will go write something on your 
blog later. Have a good day!


 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Scott Rumery
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

 

Sandy, I am the one that wrote this blog post, and I completely agree with you 
about the tapping to start the scan issue.  I think that is important to 
remember that this is the first version of this app, and it might be a good 
idea if those of us who have bought this app contact the developer with our 
comments so that they will know what some of our issues with the app is.  I for 
one have had very good results with Text Detective and have no trouble 
recommending it to others.  I really do appreciate your comments and if you 
didn't leave a comment on our blog would you please do so?  This is how we will 
be able to keep track of how many people we are getting to read our blog posts.

 

If you have any suggestions as to an app or something with the iPhone that I 
can write please let me know and I will see if I can put a future post. 
together.

 

Scott E. Rumery

 

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On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:





Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady and 
straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally blind. It 
may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure isn’t working 
for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have had has been with 
either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate the camera shutter, or 
SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising the camera.

 

Sandy

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
OfVaShaun Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

 

How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your IOS 
device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may be what 
you have been waiting for.

The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article

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Re: Over Drive app?

[Esther]

Hi Rob,

OverDrive Media Console is a free app that lets you do library downloads of 
audio books and eBooks from participating libraries.  It's widely used by 
libraries in the U.S., Canada, and Australia, and also in the UK and Germany 
and an increasing number of countries internationally.  The audio book 
borrowing and playing works very well.  The eBook downloads and reading work 
with VoiceOver, but the reading experience is not as good as with iBooks or 
with the Kobo books app, so I would mostly use this for audio book listening.  
So if I wanted to read eBooks from these library downloads, I'd probably read 
these on my computer with an application like Adobe Digital Editions Preview, 
even if I borrowed them through this iOS app.

You need to get a library card with your local public library to use this app.  
This usually involves providing proof that you're a resident of in that area -- 
like showing them a utility bill, phone bill, or bank statement addressed to 
you at that address, since in the U.S. and Canada library services are 
generally free to local residents of an area.  And you may have to show up in 
person to apply and get your card.  After that, you only need to use the 
account number and PIN number as login and password for the app, or any online 
web-based borrowing of downloadable materials that you want to do.  Or if 
another family member has a library card that you can use for the app, that 
might also work for you. 

You can find your local library or libraries by double tapping the "Get Books+" 
button in the app, then double tapping the "Add a Library" button. Then type in 
either the library name, city, or zip code in the text field and double tap the 
"search" button. For audiobooks, choose to browse OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks 
titles.  (Your library may also have WMA audiobooks for borrowing, but they 
can't be played on iOS devices).  For eBooks, you can browse Adobe ePub titles, 
Open ePub titles, and public domain eBook titles, but don't browse Kindle 
eBook, since these also won't work for you.

There's a fixed borrowing period, set by your library, which can be 7, 14, or 
21 days, and you can download items that you've borrowed any time during that 
period. However, once the borrowing period ends, they won't play any more on 
your device, and you'll have to delete them.  If you borrow audio books, you 
only need your library card number and PIN.  If you want to download and read 
eBooks with Adobe's DRM protection, you need to apply for an Adobe ID to 
authorize your device, and again I think the app or your library web site will 
guide you through the process.  OverDrive is the only iOS app that I'm aware of 
that you can use to read general ePub books that have Adobe's ADE DRM with 
VoiceOver. Adobe's DRM is the most popular form of DRM protection used by 
general eBook sellers.  Kobo books lets you buy books with Adobe's ADE DRM, but 
the books show up in your library associated with your account via their Kobo 
app, so navigation and reading is transparent.  Other apps that can read eBooks 
with Adobe's DRM, like BlueFire Reader,  protect the contents by making sure 
the actual text content can't be read with a screen reader, similar to the way 
the Kindle app works.  So even if you load a title without DRM into such apps, 
you'll suddenly find VoiceOver won't read any of the contents.

You can look for previous discussion of the OverDrive app in the list archives. 
 Bryan Jones posted some information over a year ago.  There's also an 
OverDrive Media Console application for desktop use on Windows and Mac 
computers that is accessible, and can be used to play these audio books. One 
nice feature of borrowing through the app is that you can request to be put on 
a wait list for books that are not currently available, and have them send you 
an email when they can be borrowed.  Then you have a 48 hour period to borrow 
them through the app.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 21, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Rob wrote:

> Dear List,
> While browsing the app store, I found the Over Drive app.
> have any of you tried it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob

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Re: How to use Zello?

[kb5752]

I’ll be on the channel Viphone at 22:00 GMT tomorrow. Hope to meet as many of 
you as possible!


From: Chuck Dean 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 9:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Cc: bobs...@googlemail.com 
Subject: Re: How to use Zello?


There is already a channel viphone.
Spelled V I phone .
Chuck

On Friday, July 20, 2012 11:03:24 AM UTC-7, Rob Harris wrote: 
  Whose going to set up a group for us all to join,  or how are we to join up 
  collectively? 

  Thanks, RobH. 
  - Original Message - 
  From:  
  To:  
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 4:56 PM 
  Subject: Re: How to use Zello? 


  So just a thought here. should those of us on this list plan a chat sometime 
  with Zello? Any interest? 


  From: Chuck Dean 
  Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:04 PM 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: sandratomk...@googlemail.com 
  Subject: Re: How to use Zello? 

  Hi sandy, 
  I also have Zello, but have never used it. 

  there is a VIphone channel, that I occasionally check in. 
  Spelled V,I,p,h,o,n,e 

  Chuck 

  On Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:44:27 AM UTC-7, Sandy Tomkins wrote: 
Hi, 

I've had Zello for a while now, but have never really tried to use it. 
  i have subscribed to a channel, (Universal Access) it might be called, and I 
  can see there are 8 people online at the moment. But I hear nothing and 
  don't know how to contribute. Also, the sound test, how to use that? Do i 
  need to have the headphones on or will it work with the speaker on the 
  phone? 
Any tips and tricks much appreciated! 
Sandy. 

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Re: Magic jack

[Steve Vandecar]

how do you set up an account without buying their
 package?

SteveOn Jul 21, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote:

> Hi Steve.
> 
> First of all, you need to get a Magic Jack account which includes picking
> your number and that has to be done on their web site.  When I got the app,
> I already had that account and just installed the app and it had a couple of
> text boxes in which I had to put in my user name and password for my Magic
> Jack account. 
> 
> It showed me my Magic Jack number and it started working immediately.
> 
> I didn't like the fact that the keypad said the word up before each number.
> Something like up1 up2 or up3.  I used the 2 finger double tap to rename
> each button and everything is working very well.
> 
> What I would do is make sure the account has been created properly, that you
> have selected and got a number and then I would remove the app and install
> it again.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Ron & Danvers
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Steve Vandecar
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:09 PM
> To: IPhone List
> Subject: Magic jack
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I put magic jack on my phone and it worked good so decided to register and
> get a magic jack number and not only did not bet a number but I can't use
> the app and have reinstalled it.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks
> Steve
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Re: Question Regarding Carat

[kb5752]

Ah, thanks! I wasn't aware of that.

-Original Message- 
From: David Chittenden

Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Carat

Killing the program kills the related processes.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 21/07/2012, at 3:52,  wrote:

The confusing thing is that Carat help talks about being to kill processes 
and programs in this "Process Manager". In App Switcher, I of course see 
the programs to kills, but not the processes to which Help refers.


-Original Message- From: David Chittenden
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Carat

It's the same thing.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 20/07/2012, at 12:10, Keith Bundy  wrote:

Thanks, Corey. I just tried that, and still get the plain old app 
switcher.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:28 PM, "Corey Michael Cook" 
 wrote:



You have to press home twice quickly.
Kind of like a double tap.


Corey Cook
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of kb5...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Carat

I agree. They say that pressing Home twice will get you into a process
manager where processes can be killed. But I sure can't figure it out.


-Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Carat

Hi,

The problem is that Carat advises killing specific processes in some 
cases,

not just apps. As far as I know, there's no way for the user to kill a
specific process, so I don't know why they advise doing it.

Best,
Anna



On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Rob Harris wrote:


Different term for the same thing.
- Original Message - From: "Keith Bundy" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:38 PM
Subject: Question Regarding Carat


I am using Carat to improve battery life of my phone, and I have a
question.
Carat has recommended killing and restarting some processes, and the 
help

says that pressing the Home button twice will get me into the process
manager. Of course, with VO, pressing Home twice gets me into the App
Switcher.

Does anyone know how to get into the process manager? Thanks for your
help.

Keith

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Re: Over Drive app?

[Amber BOggs]

I use it. Its pritty accessible. you will need a lybrarry card to use it 
though

AMber
- Original Message - 
From: "Rob" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:41 PM
Subject: Over Drive app?



Dear List,
While browsing the app store, I found the Over Drive app.
have any of you tried it?

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Over Drive app?

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Dear List,
While browsing the app store, I found the Over Drive app.
have any of you tried it?

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Re: Seri and dictation.

[Rose Waagan]

I find the best thing to do when siri acts up is to turn siri off in settings, 
reboot the iPhone, and reactivate siri. Has never failed to fix the problem for 
me. 
Hope that helps. 
Rose

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Grant Hardy  wrote:

> Yes, I think this is a pretty common issue across the iPhone 4S user base.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Grant
> 
> On 7/21/12, Jenifer Gilley  wrote:
>> Hi all. Has anyone else experienced seri acting up, especially with
>> dictation?
>> It has been way off for me lately!
>> 
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Re: apple wireless keyboard.

[Jeffry Miller]

Good info thanks

Jeff

On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:47 PM, "Richard Turner"  
wrote:

> Yes, iPad, iPhone or iPod Touch, or a Mac computer.
> 
> Also be aware that if you just let it go to sleep, any key press will wake
> up your device.  I got into the habit of taking out a battery when I put it
> in a bag or brief case to make sure it didn't wake up the device and leave
> it running.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
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> Oh ok thanks, you can use it with the IPad correct?
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Re: Word worp

[JoJo and Clinton]

Hi Brett,

Thank you so much.  I've had lots of fun with this game.

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TextGrabber settings [was Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps]

[Chuck Dean]

Hi,
In text grabber settings I have my language set to  English my search engine 
set to Google and all other buttons are set to off.
I hold my iPhone about 12 inches above a page when I am scanning it. That seems 
to be the optimum distance.


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Re: Word worp

[Brett]

Hi,. 

The settings button is the unlabelled button in the very top left of the 
screen.. 

Hope this helps,. 
Brett. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

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wrote:

> Brett,
>  
> Thanks for the info; however, I do have one more question.  How do I get to 
> the settings.  I couldn't seem to find a button for it.
>  
> Thanks so much.
>  
> JoJo
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RE: Magic jack

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Steve.

First of all, you need to get a Magic Jack account which includes picking
your number and that has to be done on their web site.  When I got the app,
I already had that account and just installed the app and it had a couple of
text boxes in which I had to put in my user name and password for my Magic
Jack account. 

It showed me my Magic Jack number and it started working immediately.

I didn't like the fact that the keypad said the word up before each number.
Something like up1 up2 or up3.  I used the 2 finger double tap to rename
each button and everything is working very well.

What I would do is make sure the account has been created properly, that you
have selected and got a number and then I would remove the app and install
it again.

Good luck

Ron & Danvers


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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:09 PM
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Subject: Magic jack

Hello,

I put magic jack on my phone and it worked good so decided to register and
get a magic jack number and not only did not bet a number but I can't use
the app and have reinstalled it.  Any suggestions?

Thanks
Steve

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Re: Typing in the Body of a Message with the Gmail App

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

As you can see, I am up and running! Thanks for all help! 
Sharonda


Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

> Hi Sharonda,
> I downloaded this app and tried it. It is not possible to get the cursor into 
> the message body area with voice over on. I had to turn Voice over off, and 
> tap in the message body area, then turn voice over back on.
> 
> This is a terrible app from a voice over point of view. None of the buttons 
> are labeled.
> It is hard to navigate and has no Voice over friendly attributes.
> 
> I use the email client in the iPhone's settings very successfully with G Mail.
> You can manage multiple accounts and access all of your mail boxes and 
> folders.
> The only downside is that you will not get the G Mail contact list, that you 
> will need to import into your contacts manually.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:39:59 PM UTC-7, Sharonda wrote:
> Hello listers, 
> I am definitely having an issue. I downloaded the gmail app onto my 
> iPhone 4S in hopes 
> that I could compose messages right from my phone. I have to gmail 
> accounts and thought that having the gmail app would help separate my 
> accounts. Previously I just read my email from Safari in this 
> account. 
> 
> Antyways, I now have the gmail app. I can write in my subject and whom 
> I'm addressing the message to. However, I cannot find where to write 
> in the body of a message. Please, can someone shed some light on this 
> mystery? How  do I get to the blank area to type in a message? Thanks 
> so much. 
> 
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TextGrabber settings [was Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps]

[Esther]

Hi Roger,

This is not Chuck, but I've used TextGrabber successfully. You could try 
turning the switch for "Enable crop" to "off" under Settings.  The other thing 
you can do is try using the Light Detector app to judge the height and position 
at which to hold your phone.  For OCR apps like Prizmo, TextGrabbber, and 
Perfect OCR, the sound will be loudest when you are at about the correct height 
and centering.  For Say Text you can start from that height and expect to lift 
your phone at least 2-3 inches higher before you get SayText to register the 
document is in position for it to automatically proceed by taking a picture.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Roger Frischenmeyer wrote:

> Hi Chuck, Can you tell me what if any settings you have changed with Text 
> Grabber? I get a good scan but don't always get the full page even if I 
> change the hight at which I hold the phone.
> - Original Message -
> From: Chuck Dean
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
> 
>  I finally got some success with this app.
> I printed a story and then scanned it with this app. The first thing I 
> noticed is that the tips say to hold the iPhone about a forearm's length away 
> from the page. The person who wrote that must have very short forearms. :)
>  I got results when I held the phone about 12 inches away. The results were 
> good, but not great. about 80% correct.
> But the main flaw I see is it only scans half of the page.
> 
> The app also did not give me enough time to orient  the page correctly, so I 
> had to do a few scans to get one that would read. I assume that this works 
> better for those with no vision, as you could move the phone around until you 
> got a good scan.
> 
> I am glad to hear that this app is working well for many people,but,
>  personally with the limited vision I have Text Grabber is still the best OCR 
> app,
> I have it configured so only one tap of the camera button and it will give me 
> a full readable page in less than a minute.
> 
> Chuck

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Re: Seri and dictation.

[Grant Hardy]

Yes, I think this is a pretty common issue across the iPhone 4S user base.

Cheers,

Grant

On 7/21/12, Jenifer Gilley  wrote:
> Hi all. Has anyone else experienced seri acting up, especially with
> dictation?
> It has been way off for me lately!
>
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Re: Text Detective [was "Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps"]

[Esther]

Hi Scott,

I stated that comment about picking up the phone in landscape mode badly.  I 
meant to say that most VoiceOver users who use OCR apps, and lift their iPhones 
above the page, find it easier to lift it and keep it flat and stable, if they 
hold their phone with their hands along the long dimension (i.e. "landscape" 
mode).  I do pick up and hold my iPhone in portrait orientation, and I can lift 
it and keep it fairly flat now, even with just one hand, in portrait 
orientation, and get pretty good results with OCR apps. (This is the result of 
muscle memory kicking in after training).  However, if I were to teach someone, 
in person, how to use an OCR app, I might well have them rotate everything so 
that the document and phone are horizontally oriented, and so they can pick up 
the iPhone more stably in landscape mode.

For the extreme example, think about picking up a ruler, and being told to hold 
it flat in the air.  It is extremely difficult to hold the ends of the short 
dimension and keep the ruler from twisting.  Or think about carrying a long, 
thin, package.  You'll always hold the rectangle by the long ends if you're 
carrying a stack of boxes and trying to balance them.

The instructions for TextDetective do tell you to hold the phone in landscape 
mode:

How to scan and read text

1. Select the “Scan” tab.
2. Place the phone in landscape and the home button
aligned with the right or left edge of the document.
3. Recommendation: when pointing the phone at text,
try to keep the phone straight and parallel to the text
object.
4. Lift the phone away from the document-about a
forearm’s length. Don't tilt or rotate, keep the phone 
straight.
5. Hit the “Start Scan” button and wait for the
“evaluating” prompt.
6. Phone will vibrate for found detections.
7. Once OCR is complete, a text field with all the
detected text will be shown. VoiceOver will speak all
the results.
8. To read the individual results one by one, tap the
"individual detections" button. In VoiceOver mode,
use three finger gesture swipe left-right to navigate
use three finger gesture swipe left-right to navigate
through results (single finger swipe in non VoiceOver
mode).
9. Hit Done-Back button to rescan.
10. Note: Text may be at the top of the document. If
results aren't satisfactory, try placing the phone
nearer the top part of the page, while still aligning the
home button with the left or right edge of the
document. Then lift the phone and scan again.


This combination of holding the iPhone in landscape mode while the document 
page has to be in portrait mode almost guarantees that you won't be able to get 
the entire text read at once unless you're reading a section of a page where 
there is only text in the central third, or so of the page.  Or this will work 
for reading letter envelopes.

There's another thing about holding the phone in landscape mode -- you can use 
the edges of the portrait page to check your alignment, because they're not so 
far from the edge of the phone.

I think the fact that the developer of TextDetective was able to get National 
Institutes of Health grant funding to support some of the work in the app (see 
the app description page), and also bring down the cost of the initial app so 
that more people could try it and get started, was also a deliberate decision.  
 
I'd be really curious to hear the impressions from people who train others (and 
who have mastered using OCR apps themselves), about what the most effective 
teaching methods to use are.  

Just my thoughts. YMMV.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Esther,
> 
> I thought the comment about most Voiceover users picking up their phone in 
> landscape mode interesting. I actually have always used mine in portrait 
> mode. I wonder though if the page has to be oriented correctly, I assume (and 
> this probably is a pretty silly question) Text Detective already assumes the 
> camera is oriented in the lower right corner, thus being 90 degrees off from 
> what may be considered correct orientation? In other words could people have 
> less than stellar results if the phone were oriented in the portrait  mode? I 
> don't know if the instructions tell you to put the phone in landscape mode, 
> but would assume it does. I find this pretty interesting actually.
> I do agree the simplicity of Text Detective does make it attractive, but even 
> as a 1.0 app I would have thought maybe the dev would have accounted for some 
> features such as using the flash or auto flash and orientation of the 
> document. I will be watching this app closely to see what comes next. 
> Interestingly, this app was mentioned in a message that went out to the 
> Section 508 working group in the agency where I work. The Section 508 working 
> group is an interesting name since the objective of the group is to deal with 
> accessibility of all IT and other technologies used in the workplace, 
> although we tend to stray into othe

Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Roger Frischenmeyer]

Hi Chuck, Can you tell me what if any settings you have changed with Text 
Grabber? I get a good scan but don't always get the full page even if I change 
the hight at which I hold the phone. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck Dean 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps


   I finally got some success with this app.
  I printed a story and then scanned it with this app. The first thing I 
noticed is that the tips say to hold the iPhone about a forearm's length away 
from the page. The person who wrote that must have very short forearms. :)
   I got results when I held the phone about 12 inches away. The results were 
good, but not great. about 80% correct.
  But the main flaw I see is it only scans half of the page.

  The app also did not give me enough time to orient  the page correctly, so I 
had to do a few scans to get one that would read. I assume that this works 
better for those with no vision, as you could move the phone around until you 
got a good scan.

  I am glad to hear that this app is working well for many people,but,
   personally with the limited vision I have Text Grabber is still the best OCR 
app,
  I have it configured so only one tap of the camera button and it will give me 
a full readable page in less than a minute.

  Chuck








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Re: Typing in the Body of a Message with the Gmail App

[Chuck Dean]

Hi Sharonda,
I downloaded this app and tried it. It is not possible to get the cursor 
into the message body area with voice over on. I had to turn Voice over 
off, and tap in the message body area, then turn voice over back on.

This is a terrible app from a voice over point of view. None of the buttons 
are labeled.
It is hard to navigate and has no Voice over friendly attributes.

I use the email client in the iPhone's settings very successfully with G 
Mail.
You can manage multiple accounts and access all of your mail boxes and 
folders.
The only downside is that you will not get the G Mail contact list, that 
you will need to import into your contacts manually.

Chuck

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:39:59 PM UTC-7, Sharonda wrote:
>
> Hello listers, 
> I am definitely having an issue. I downloaded the gmail app onto my 
> iPhone 4S in hopes 
> that I could compose messages right from my phone. I have to gmail 
> accounts and thought that having the gmail app would help separate my 
> accounts. Previously I just read my email from Safari in this 
> account. 
>
> Antyways, I now have the gmail app. I can write in my subject and whom 
> I'm addressing the message to. However, I cannot find where to write 
> in the body of a message. Please, can someone shed some light on this 
> mystery? How  do I get to the blank area to type in a message? Thanks 
> so much. 
>
> Sharonda 
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> National Federation of the Blind 
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Magic jack

[Steve Vandecar]

Hello,

I put magic jack on my phone and it worked good so decided to register and get 
a magic jack number and not only did not bet a number but I can't use the app 
and have reinstalled it.  Any suggestions?

Thanks
Steve

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Re: Text Detective [was "Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps"]

[Scott Howell]

Esther,

I thought the comment about most Voiceover users picking up their phone in 
landscape mode interesting. I actually have always used mine in portrait mode. 
I wonder though if the page has to be oriented correctly, I assume (and this 
probably is a pretty silly question) Text Detective already assumes the camera 
is oriented in the lower right corner, thus being 90 degrees off from what may 
be considered correct orientation? In other words could people have less than 
stellar results if the phone were oriented in the portrait  mode? I don't know 
if the instructions tell you to put the phone in landscape mode, but would 
assume it does. I find this pretty interesting actually.
I do agree the simplicity of Text Detective does make it attractive, but even 
as a 1.0 app I would have thought maybe the dev would have accounted for some 
features such as using the flash or auto flash and orientation of the document. 
I will be watching this app closely to see what comes next. Interestingly, this 
app was mentioned in a message that went out to the Section 508 working group 
in the agency where I work. The Section 508 working group is an interesting 
name since the objective of the group is to deal with accessibility of all IT 
and other technologies used in the workplace, although we tend to stray into 
other areas. :)
Thanks for sharing the information.

Scott

On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Anne and Others,
> 
> No, Text Detective does not yet support languages other than English.  What 
> that means for languages like French, which use a Latin alphabet, is that 
> you'll get many of the words, but characters where you have an "e" with an 
> acute accent will show up as the number "6", for example.
> 
> The plus side is that it is simple to use, and it gives people some better 
> immediate results because it has them hold the phone in landscape mode, which 
> is the way most VoiceOver users will pick up their iPhones, and is easier to 
> keep documents in alignment.  However, because you're holding the phone this 
> way, and the document has to be in portrait mode, you don't get the full page 
> -- only a section of it.  There's no setting to turn flash on, again in the 
> interests of keeping things simple.  Unlike Prizmo, TextGrabber, and Perfect 
> OCR, you need to orient the page correctly to get results.  The program won't 
> work if the document is upside down or rotated 90 degrees as it will for 
> these other programs.
> 
> The design philosophy, I believe, is to let people get some results right 
> away.  If you don't get results, you simply rotate the page and try again, 
> and because it's relatively fast to navigate the controls, it's not hard to 
> do this.
> 
> In my estimation, the actual time to OCR is not really faster than with 
> Prizmo.  The complication that I believe most people find with Prizmo, apart 
> from having to practice the alignment and holding things flat and in good 
> light, is that there are multiple steps, even though most of this is just 
> double-tapping the "Next" button in the top right corner.  And if Prizmo were 
> to implement a "quick process" mode where it assumed all the defaults and 
> that you'd make no changes at all (since you need vision to crop, adjust 
> images, etc.), I bet that would make things a lot easier for VoiceOver users.
> 
> With Text Detective you still have to hold things flat, aligned, and in good 
> light, but there are fewer steps.  It is also more tolerant of slight 
> alignment errors, just as Prizmo is more tolerant of such errors than most 
> OCR programs (believe it or not).
> 
> For people who are having difficulty pressing the "Start Scan" button in Text 
> Detective while holding the phone flat, try putting your forefinger on the 
> button while you hold the phone in landscape mode with your two hands, but 
> keep your middle finger free.  Then, when you have lifted your phone to the 
> correct height, use a split tap with your middle finger to press the button 
> without shaking the phone.
> 
> I think Text Detective has good features, but won't give full page 
> information in its current mode.  By the way, Perfect OCR supports Russian, 
> although I haven't tested that out yet -- just the French.  And TextGrabber 
> gives the full range of ABBYY's OCR language support, so should also support 
> Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Arabic, etc. in addition to the above.
> 
> HTH.   Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Having looked at the description of this app, I see no reference to other 
>> languages, and yet it is in the French appstore. Does it support any other 
>> languages?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
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Re: MyWi 5.5 tethering app for jail broken devices

[Damashe Thomas]

Ok, thanks.
They give you a free 3 day trial, so I will take a look at the accessibility 
and see if it has improved.
- Original Message - 
From: "jeremy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: MyWi 5.5 tethering app for jail broken devices


Howdy. As far as I know, MyWi isn't accessible with voiceover, reason we 
all decided to use PDANet.

Take care.

On 7/19/2012 10:16 PM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

Hi List,
Are jail breakers familiar with the cydia app MyWi 5.5. If so, I would 
like anyone's thoughts on it. I would like to know was there any 
particular reason those using PDANet chose that app over any other 
tethering apps that may have been available.


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Seri and dictation.

[Jenifer Gilley]

Hi all. Has anyone else experienced seri acting up, especially with dictation? 
It has been way off for me lately! 

Sent from my iPhone

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Typing in the Body of a Message with the Gmail App

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

Hello listers,
I am definitely having an issue. I downloaded the gmail app onto my
iPhone 4S in hopes
that I could compose messages right from my phone. I have to gmail
accounts and thought that having the gmail app would help separate my
accounts. Previously I just read my email from Safari in this
account.

Antyways, I now have the gmail app. I can write in my subject and whom
I'm addressing the message to. However, I cannot find where to write
in the body of a message. Please, can someone shed some light on this
mystery? How  do I get to the blank area to type in a message? Thanks
so much.

Sharonda
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Re: Ilike2read, drop box, and howto download

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I have also just downloaded the app.

I do not think you can download books directly from dropbox, but I am not sure.

You can add textfiles and RTF and PDF files by sending them via email, or 
opening them in your dropboks and use the export function. From mail the open 
in function.

Best regards Annie.
Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 11:14 PM skrev regina alvarado:

> Downloaded I like 2read pro. How do I download into the app? Do I have to 
> have drop box? Can I use bard and book share? Not sure how to even begin 
> using this app. Any help is deeply appreciated! Please give in steps. 
> 
> Typed with Fleksy
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Brooks
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Re: Kindle books

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

It is a problem with mobi books, not books in other formats. I am also using 
stanza for converting my scanned books, that works fine.

Best regards Annie.
Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 11:20 PM skrev Paula Mack:

> This has not been my experience with stanza. I use it all the time to convert 
> books I have scanned for export into ibooks, and I have never found text to 
> be missing from any of the books I have scanned. 
> 
> However, I don't think it would work for kindle books because of the copy 
> protection.
> ,regards, Paula  
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Stanza converts books, that is correct, but be aware that it often only 
>> converts some of the text, I have tried it, and a lot of the text was 
>> missing.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 8:36 PM skrev Chuck Dean:
>> 
>>> Stanza will convert books and is to my understanding, Jaws friendly.
>>> Here's a link:
>>> http://stanza-desktop.en.softonic.com/
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:24:24 AM UTC-7, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>>> Hi. 
>>> 
>>> No calibre is not very accessible. But I figured out a while ago, that we 
>>> can convert 1 book at a time, but I will advice you to delete the library 
>>> file often. 
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie. 
>>> Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 4:51 PM skrev Russ Kiehne: 
>>> 
>>> > I didn't think calibre was accessible with speech? 
>>> > 
>>> > -Original Message- From: Keith Watson 
>>> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:42 PM 
>>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> > Subject: Re: Kindle books 
>>> > 
>>> > Hi, 
>>> > 
>>> > I use Calibre to convert between formats. Then I dump the file into 
>>> > Dropbox and import into iBooks from there. 
>>> > 
>>> > Keith 
>>> > 
>>> > On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> >> What do you use to do the conversion, and then are you just using ITunes 
>>> >> to put it back on the phone...  If you have ICloud, can it be accessed 
>>> >> that way?  Thanks .. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone 
>>> >> 
>>> >> On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Keith Watson  wrote: 
>>> >> 
>>> >>> Yes. You can convert from .mobi extension to .epub extension and import 
>>> >>> into iBooks. Or if you can get the native epub format you can just 
>>> >>> import directly into iBooks. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
>>> >>> 
>>>  I know that currently the kindle app isn't accessible.  However, can 
>>>  one get a Kindle book and convert it to something which is accessible 
>>>  on the I Phone.  I have a couple of books needing to be read for an 
>>>  assignment, and the Kindle edition is about 1/2 the price of the I 
>>>  Books edition .. 
>>>  
>>>  Thanks for any help. 
>>>  
>>>  Sent from my iPhone 
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Ilike2readPro

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I have downloaded the new Ilike2ReadPro.

There a few things, that I do not understand. It says in the documentation that 
ILike2ReadPro can read EPub files, is that true? I have tried to open some epub 
files without drm protection in the program, and it is not possible. I have the 
same problem with html.

How does the search function in documents work. I can enter a word, but how do 
I go to the place in the text where the word is. I am a braille user, so maybe 
there is a gesture I do not know.

Best regards Annie.

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Re: Kindle books

[Paula Mack]

This has not been my experience with stanza. I use it all the time to convert 
books I have scanned for export into ibooks, and I have never found text to be 
missing from any of the books I have scanned. 

However, I don't think it would work for kindle books because of the copy 
protection.
,regards, Paula  

Paula Mack
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Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Stanza converts books, that is correct, but be aware that it often only 
> converts some of the text, I have tried it, and a lot of the text was missing.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 8:36 PM skrev Chuck Dean:
> 
>> Stanza will convert books and is to my understanding, Jaws friendly.
>> Here's a link:
>> http://stanza-desktop.en.softonic.com/
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:24:24 AM UTC-7, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>> Hi. 
>> 
>> No calibre is not very accessible. But I figured out a while ago, that we 
>> can convert 1 book at a time, but I will advice you to delete the library 
>> file often. 
>> 
>> Best regards Annie. 
>> Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 4:51 PM skrev Russ Kiehne: 
>> 
>> > I didn't think calibre was accessible with speech? 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message- From: Keith Watson 
>> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:42 PM 
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> > Subject: Re: Kindle books 
>> > 
>> > Hi, 
>> > 
>> > I use Calibre to convert between formats. Then I dump the file into 
>> > Dropbox and import into iBooks from there. 
>> > 
>> > Keith 
>> > 
>> > On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> What do you use to do the conversion, and then are you just using ITunes 
>> >> to put it back on the phone...  If you have ICloud, can it be accessed 
>> >> that way?  Thanks .. 
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone 
>> >> 
>> >> On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Keith Watson  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> Yes. You can convert from .mobi extension to .epub extension and import 
>> >>> into iBooks. Or if you can get the native epub format you can just 
>> >>> import directly into iBooks. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
>> >>> 
>>  I know that currently the kindle app isn't accessible.  However, can 
>>  one get a Kindle book and convert it to something which is accessible 
>>  on the I Phone.  I have a couple of books needing to be read for an 
>>  assignment, and the Kindle edition is about 1/2 the price of the I 
>>  Books edition .. 
>>  
>>  Thanks for any help. 
>>  
>>  Sent from my iPhone 
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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Scott Rumery]

That is because the original message in this thread was the title of the blog 
post.
On Jul 21, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:

> Hi,
> Just a quick comment on the subject line here. Anyone looking for Text
> Detective won't find this thread.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Rumery
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> How far from what your are trying to scan do you hold your phone?  I would
> recommend that you experiment with this and each time that you get a scan
> with a lot of gibberish just move the phone a little closer to your
> document.  Remember that good lighting is crucial to a successful scan.
> 
> 
> Scott E. Rumery
> 
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> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:
> 
> 
>   I have had no success with this app.
>   I followed the tips, and I am in normal office lighting. I have
> tried to scan, an email, a electric bill, a letter, and a page from a book.
> I have tried different positions, scan lengths ETC.
>   I will only get one or two words, and those are usually wrong.
>   
>   out of curiosity I tried using Text grabber on the same material.
>   It worked about 90% of the time.
>   Any ideas?
>   Chuck
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   On Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:50:53 AM UTC-7, VaShaun Jones wrote:
> 
>   How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR
> solution for your IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS
> AppStore just may be what you have been waiting for.
> 
>   The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
>  
> 
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Re: Text Detective [was "Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps"]

[Esther]

Hi Anne and Others,

No, Text Detective does not yet support languages other than English.  What 
that means for languages like French, which use a Latin alphabet, is that 
you'll get many of the words, but characters where you have an "e" with an 
acute accent will show up as the number "6", for example.

The plus side is that it is simple to use, and it gives people some better 
immediate results because it has them hold the phone in landscape mode, which 
is the way most VoiceOver users will pick up their iPhones, and is easier to 
keep documents in alignment.  However, because you're holding the phone this 
way, and the document has to be in portrait mode, you don't get the full page 
-- only a section of it.  There's no setting to turn flash on, again in the 
interests of keeping things simple.  Unlike Prizmo, TextGrabber, and Perfect 
OCR, you need to orient the page correctly to get results.  The program won't 
work if the document is upside down or rotated 90 degrees as it will for these 
other programs.

The design philosophy, I believe, is to let people get some results right away. 
 If you don't get results, you simply rotate the page and try again, and 
because it's relatively fast to navigate the controls, it's not hard to do this.

In my estimation, the actual time to OCR is not really faster than with Prizmo. 
 The complication that I believe most people find with Prizmo, apart from 
having to practice the alignment and holding things flat and in good light, is 
that there are multiple steps, even though most of this is just double-tapping 
the "Next" button in the top right corner.  And if Prizmo were to implement a 
"quick process" mode where it assumed all the defaults and that you'd make no 
changes at all (since you need vision to crop, adjust images, etc.), I bet that 
would make things a lot easier for VoiceOver users.

With Text Detective you still have to hold things flat, aligned, and in good 
light, but there are fewer steps.  It is also more tolerant of slight alignment 
errors, just as Prizmo is more tolerant of such errors than most OCR programs 
(believe it or not).

For people who are having difficulty pressing the "Start Scan" button in Text 
Detective while holding the phone flat, try putting your forefinger on the 
button while you hold the phone in landscape mode with your two hands, but keep 
your middle finger free.  Then, when you have lifted your phone to the correct 
height, use a split tap with your middle finger to press the button without 
shaking the phone.

I think Text Detective has good features, but won't give full page information 
in its current mode.  By the way, Perfect OCR supports Russian, although I 
haven't tested that out yet -- just the French.  And TextGrabber gives the full 
range of ABBYY's OCR language support, so should also support Chinese, 
Japanese, Korean, Arabic, etc. in addition to the above.

HTH.   Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Having looked at the description of this app, I see no reference to other 
> languages, and yet it is in the French appstore. Does it support any other 
> languages?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: Volume with dropvox

[Craig Werner]

It's important to make sure you are speaking directly into the
microphone of the iPhone.

Craig

On 7/21/12, chris hallsworth  wrote:
> This cannot be done.
> - Original Message -
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> To: "Viphone Group" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:21 PM
> Subject: Volume with dropvox
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For those of you using Dropvox, how do you increase the volume? I can
>> hardly
>> hear my voice in the play back.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Godwin
>>
>>
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RE: purchased an ape but cannot install it

[Sandy Finley]

Well, all of us on this list who use it are blind. What does that tell you?
There is a difference between accessible and readily usable and I don't know
if you will find it readily usable. What seemed difficult to me 2 months ago
now doesn't, so give it a try and see what you think.  There are folks on
this list who will help if you need it.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purchased an ape but cannot install it

How accessible is it with voice over?

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To: 
Subject: RE: purchased an ape but cannot install it

> Pandora's free version will let you create radio stations of your 
> favorite artists. Let's say one of your faves is The eagles. When you 
> create an Eagles station Pandora will include other artists they think 
> you will like, either because they are that era or they sing each 
> other's songs; Jackson Brown or the Grateful Dead would probably be on 
> that station. If you dislike a song you hear you give it a "thumbs 
> down. "After  two "thumbs down,"
> that
> artist will no longer be included in that station.
>
> Also, you can skip a maximum of six songs per each listening session 
> for each station. All you need to do is put up with an occasional ad. 
> My husband has been more conscientious (or neurotic, depending on your 
> viewpoint) about liking and disliking songs aND artists and  he's got 
> a couple of nearly custom made stations on his Droid.
>
> Now, I am told that creating an account with Pandora is tricky. I had 
> trouble doing it on my phone but I was a real new iPhone user so am 
> not sure if I could do it now or not; at the time my I T stepson was 
> here eating my food and drinking my beer and was glad to do it for me. 
> I love Pandora!!
>
> Sandy, who always bribes her stepson with salt and vinegar potato 
> chips, beer, and dinner
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Amaro
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: purchased an ap but can not install it
>
> thanks to every one I was able to authorize the computer  and install 
> it on my phone How ever from now on I think I am going to the aps 
> store directly.
> Does anyone know if there is a free ap out there that will let me 
> listen to oldies and choose a specific artist?
>
> --
> From: "Jon Pierson" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:24 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: purchased an ap but can not install it
>
>> Hi Michael,
>> In iTunes, alt plus S for the Store menu, followed by the letter a, 
>> for Authorize This Computer should get you on the gright track.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Michael Amaro
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: purchased an ap but can not install it
>>
>> Hello Listers,
>> I managed to purchase the money reader Ap but I don't know how to 
>> install it.  I used iTunes.  Every time I try to Install it tells me 
>> that the ap was not installed on my iPhone because my computer is not 
>> authorized.  How do I authorize it?  Mean while I don't install the 
>> ap ware is it? if I shut my computer down can I reinstall it in the 
>> morning?
>> Thanks
>> Michael
>> Windows Live ID:
>> mikeam...@earthlink.net
>> > s
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Re: Text Detective [was "Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps"]

[Anne Robertson]

Having looked at the description of this app, I see no reference to other 
languages, and yet it is in the French appstore. Does it support any other 
languages?

Cheers,

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Re: purchased an ape but cannot install it

[Michael Amaro]

How accessible is it with voice over?

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From: "Sandy Finley" 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:25 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: purchased an ape but cannot install it


Pandora's free version will let you create radio stations of your favorite
artists. Let's say one of your faves is The eagles. When you create an
Eagles station Pandora will include other artists they think you will 
like,

either because they are that era or they sing each other's songs; Jackson
Brown or the Grateful Dead would probably be on that station. If you 
dislike
a song you hear you give it a "thumbs down. "After  two "thumbs down," 
that

artist will no longer be included in that station.

Also, you can skip a maximum of six songs per each listening session for
each station. All you need to do is put up with an occasional ad. My 
husband
has been more conscientious (or neurotic, depending on your viewpoint) 
about

liking and disliking songs aND artists and  he's got a couple of nearly
custom made stations on his Droid.

Now, I am told that creating an account with Pandora is tricky. I had
trouble doing it on my phone but I was a real new iPhone user so am not 
sure

if I could do it now or not; at the time my I T stepson was here eating my
food and drinking my beer and was glad to do it for me. I love Pandora!!

Sandy, who always bribes her stepson with salt and vinegar potato chips,
beer, and dinner



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purchased an ap but can not install it

thanks to every one I was able to authorize the computer  and install it 
on
my phone How ever from now on I think I am going to the aps store 
directly.
Does anyone know if there is a free ap out there that will let me listen 
to

oldies and choose a specific artist?

--
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:24 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: purchased an ap but can not install it


Hi Michael,
In iTunes, alt plus S for the Store menu, followed by the letter a,
for Authorize This Computer should get you on the gright track.

Jon

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: purchased an ap but can not install it

Hello Listers,
I managed to purchase the money reader Ap but I don't know how to
install it.  I used iTunes.  Every time I try to Install it tells me
that the ap was not installed on my iPhone because my computer is not
authorized.  How do I authorize it?  Mean while I don't install the ap
ware is it? if I shut my computer down can I reinstall it in the
morning?
Thanks
Michael
Windows Live ID:
mikeam...@earthlink.net

e-mail:
mikeam...@earthlink.net

Skype ID:
mikeameli
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RE: purchased an ape but cannot install it

[Sandy Finley]

Pandora's free version will let you create radio stations of your favorite
artists. Let's say one of your faves is The eagles. When you create an
Eagles station Pandora will include other artists they think you will like,
either because they are that era or they sing each other's songs; Jackson
Brown or the Grateful Dead would probably be on that station. If you dislike
a song you hear you give it a "thumbs down. "After  two "thumbs down," that
artist will no longer be included in that station.

Also, you can skip a maximum of six songs per each listening session for
each station. All you need to do is put up with an occasional ad. My husband
has been more conscientious (or neurotic, depending on your viewpoint) about
liking and disliking songs aND artists and  he's got a couple of nearly
custom made stations on his Droid. 

Now, I am told that creating an account with Pandora is tricky. I had
trouble doing it on my phone but I was a real new iPhone user so am not sure
if I could do it now or not; at the time my I T stepson was here eating my
food and drinking my beer and was glad to do it for me. I love Pandora!!

Sandy, who always bribes her stepson with salt and vinegar potato chips,
beer, and dinner

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: purchased an ap but can not install it

thanks to every one I was able to authorize the computer  and install it on
my phone How ever from now on I think I am going to the aps store directly. 
Does anyone know if there is a free ap out there that will let me listen to
oldies and choose a specific artist?

--
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:24 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: purchased an ap but can not install it

> Hi Michael,
> In iTunes, alt plus S for the Store menu, followed by the letter a, 
> for Authorize This Computer should get you on the gright track.
>
> Jon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Michael Amaro
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: purchased an ap but can not install it
>
> Hello Listers,
> I managed to purchase the money reader Ap but I don't know how to 
> install it.  I used iTunes.  Every time I try to Install it tells me 
> that the ap was not installed on my iPhone because my computer is not 
> authorized.  How do I authorize it?  Mean while I don't install the ap 
> ware is it? if I shut my computer down can I reinstall it in the 
> morning?
> Thanks
> Michael
> Windows Live ID:
> mikeam...@earthlink.net
>  c:mail
> to:mikeam...@earthlink.net>
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> mikeam...@earthlink.net
>  c:mail
> to:mikeam...@earthlink.net>
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> mikeameli
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> your country"
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Re: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR PROBLEM WITH STORES?

[chris hallsworth]

In that case, leave well alone. In some cases though it is necessary to 
change the DNS settings of your connection to access services that are 
otherwise blocked by your router's DNS. A DNS is simply a server that 
translates those strange numbers into proper, human readable names. DNS 
stands for Domain Name Server.
- Original Message - 
From: "Carol Pearson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR PROBLEM WITH STORES?


Don't quite follow how that would help, Chris, but perhaps you can explain 
it to me off list.


Meantime all is now well and it did appear that it was some kind of outage 
and, eventually, it was rectified.


Thanks all for comments and suggestions.

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: "chris hallsworth" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR PROBLEM WITH STORES?


My only suggestion is to try changing the DNS on the
phone to 8.8.8.8, which is Google's public DNS. Go to
settings, wifi, double tap more info next to the
connection you are using, and double tap the DNS text
field to make it editable. - Original Message -
From: "Carol Pearson" 
To: "VI Phone Users" 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR PROBLEM WITH STORES?



Hi all,

I have hit a real mess-up problem and am not sure how to
solve it.
So far I've taken all out of app switcher and rebooted,
and will try a hard reset if I must ...

Basically, I have my iPhone and Pod using the same
log-in password and have had no problems till now. Today I went to 
purchase an app on my phone and kept

getting a message, whilst in the App Store and
attempting to purchase, that "Unable to connect to
ITunes Store.  (Bear in mind, I'm in the App Store!)
The result is that I cannot download apps to my phone
but, when trying the same procedure with my iPod, this
works.  Unfortunately, the purchase hasn't been
transferred to my phone.
Ugh!  Any suggestions on this one are most welcome.

Thanks.

Carol P

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Blank messages {was "Re: Kindle books"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

Chuck,

I hope no one is complaining to you too much off line. I'm OK with just
using my delete key for a while while you try to figure this out. I
wouldn't want to see you stop posting because of this. I just wish these
well intending people would let you know directly and politely about
these blank messages instead of adding more traffic to the list,
although it's no big deal one way or the other. Just a bit more wear on
my poor delete key!

On 21/07/12 13:35, Chuck Dean wrote:
> Sorry, I am not sure what is happening. I am web based, I do not recieve
> emails, so maybe that has something to do with it.
> 
> I have had a few complaints, and if it continues, I will stop posting.
> Chuck
> 
> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:15:38 AM UTC-7, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> wrote:
> 
> *Chuck, *
> 
> *  *
> 
> *I don’t know if you know it, but many messages come to the viPhone
> list from you without an entry. *
> 
> *  *
> 
> *Just an FYI, *
> 
> *  *
> 
> *Keith *
> 
> *  *
> 
> *From: * viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ]
> *On Behalf Of *Chuck Dean
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:10 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Kindle books
> 
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Re: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR PROBLEM WITH STORES?

[Carol Pearson]

Don't quite follow how that would help, Chris, but perhaps you can explain 
it to me off list.


Meantime all is now well and it did appear that it was some kind of outage 
and, eventually, it was rectified.


Thanks all for comments and suggestions.

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: "chris hallsworth" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR PROBLEM WITH STORES?


My only suggestion is to try changing the DNS on the
phone to 8.8.8.8, which is Google's public DNS. Go to
settings, wifi, double tap more info next to the
connection you are using, and double tap the DNS text
field to make it editable. - Original Message -
From: "Carol Pearson" 
To: "VI Phone Users" 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:24 AM
Subject: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR PROBLEM WITH STORES?



Hi all,

I have hit a real mess-up problem and am not sure how to
solve it.
So far I've taken all out of app switcher and rebooted,
and will try a hard reset if I must ...

Basically, I have my iPhone and Pod using the same
log-in password and have had no problems till now. Today I went to 
purchase an app on my phone and kept

getting a message, whilst in the App Store and
attempting to purchase, that "Unable to connect to
ITunes Store.  (Bear in mind, I'm in the App Store!)
The result is that I cannot download apps to my phone
but, when trying the same procedure with my iPod, this
works.  Unfortunately, the purchase hasn't been
transferred to my phone.
Ugh!  Any suggestions on this one are most welcome.

Thanks.

Carol P

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Text Detective [was "Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

Are you saying that the subject line should be changed to include "Text
Detective" so people wanting information on Text Detective could easily
find it in the future? If so, I went ahead and added that to the subject
line, but there's no reason you couldn't have done that as well Jon!
*smile* This is not a serious complaint or criticism, but just a gentle
nudge.

Also, although it's true that "Text Detective" wasn't in the subject
line, "OCR" was, so I think most people looking for information on Text
Detective would still stumble across it, but thinking about good subject
lines is a good point. I was looking through my folders on posts
concerning GPS apps, and I definitely appreciate good subject lines!

On 21/07/12 14:26, Jon Pierson wrote:
> Hi,
> Just a quick comment on the subject line here. Anyone looking for Text
> Detective won't find this thread.
> 
> Jon
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Scott Rumery
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
> 
> Hi Chuck,
> 
> How far from what your are trying to scan do you hold your phone?  I would
> recommend that you experiment with this and each time that you get a scan
> with a lot of gibberish just move the phone a little closer to your
> document.  Remember that good lighting is crucial to a successful scan.
> 
> 
> Scott E. Rumery
> 
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Fedora Outlier LLC
> http://www.fedoraoutler.com
> Twiter: fedora_outlier
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> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:
> 
> 
>   I have had no success with this app.
>   I followed the tips, and I am in normal office lighting. I have
> tried to scan, an email, a electric bill, a letter, and a page from a book.
> I have tried different positions, scan lengths ETC.
>   I will only get one or two words, and those are usually wrong.
>   
>   out of curiosity I tried using Text grabber on the same material.
>   It worked about 90% of the time.
>   Any ideas?
>   Chuck
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   On Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:50:53 AM UTC-7, VaShaun Jones wrote:
> 
>   How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR
> solution for your IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS
> AppStore just may be what you have been waiting for.
> 
>   The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
>  
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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Rose Waagan]

While I agree that having an automatic shoot option is a great idea, not having 
one has not hindered me from using this app. I have gotten pretty good results 
with it. I have used both SayText and Prizmo and had trouble with each of them. 
SayText gave me no good results. Prizmo, while sometimes giving me good 
results, took way too long just to get the results. So I found that the app was 
not worth using. I find that TextDetective works best with single pages that 
are lying completely flat. It also works well with bigger books. I found 
paperbacks hard to hold open, And I never got legible results with them. The 
app also states that magazines do not work well with it either. I found that to 
be true unless the magazine was all text. I did have a magazine that I knew was 
all text, and that worked very well. I know that this app will not work well 
for everyone, but these are just my experiences.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Scott Rumery  wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> That is a very good suggestion.  Did you submit this suggestion to the 
> developer?
> 
> Scott E. Rumery
> 
> Assistive Technology Consultant
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> http://www.fedoraoutler.com
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> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> I think it would make sense to recommend that the developer consider 
>> allowing you to leave the phone flat on the paper and once the button is 
>> tapped, have you lift until the page is in view for the camera. In other 
>> words combine the functionality of SayText and Text Detective. Seems a 
>> marriage of both apps would produce a pretty interesting result.
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:12 PM, blind Treasures  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm another one of those who has tried all those other OCR apps with no 
>>> success. With only a few attempts with TextDetective Blind Treasures I was 
>>> able to get very good results. It all comes down to holding the phone at 
>>> the right height and lighting. For a first release, this is a wonderful app 
>>> and I hope they keep improving it.
>>> Blind Treasures
>>> Sales: sa...@blindtreasures.com
>>> Skype: kingmeade
>>> Web Page: http://www.blindtreasures.com
>>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Amy Billman
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:05 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>>> 
>>> I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.
>>> I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but 
>>> can with Text Detective.
>>> I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,) 
>>> what works for one isn’t always going to work for another.
>>> Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and 
>>> didn’t like it or it didn’t work for them, but maybe it would work for 
>>> someone else, that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your 
>>> money isn’t going to waste. *smile*
>>> Amy Billman
>>> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
>>> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
>>> http://www.SpeedDots.com
>>> Follow us on Twitter:
>>> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
>>> Like us on Facebook:
>>> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sandy Finley
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>>>  
>>> Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
>>> scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady 
>>> and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally 
>>> blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure 
>>> isn’t working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have 
>>> had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate 
>>> the camera shutter, orSayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising 
>>> the camera.
>>>  
>>> Sandy
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of VaShaun Jones
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>>>  
>>> How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
>>> IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may 
>>> be what you have been waiting for.
>>> 
>>> The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
>>> 
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Re: MyWi 5.5 tethering app for jail broken devices

[jeremy]

Howdy. As far as I know, MyWi isn't accessible with voiceover, reason we 
all decided to use PDANet.

Take care.

On 7/19/2012 10:16 PM, Damashe Thomas wrote:

Hi List,
Are jail breakers familiar with the cydia app MyWi 5.5. If so, I would like 
anyone's thoughts on it. I would like to know was there any particular reason 
those using PDANet chose that app over any other tethering apps that may have 
been available.

Thanks



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RE: Removing the Stocks Folder:

[Rose Combs]

I moved stocks into the utilities folder and I could move a couple of others
there also.  The newsstand folder in on page 5 which at this point has
nothing on it, if it ever has more than I will move it to page 6 since I
never ever use it.  


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Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Removing the Stocks Folder:

You can't remove apps that come with your phone. Apple has it that way.

Jenn

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Of Don Moore
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Removing the Stocks Folder:

I would like to remove, among other things, the stocks folder and the
pictures folder from my iPhone 4S.

While I found many of my applications in the settings area, I didn't find
those and haven't been successful in removing it using the other method
suggested the other day.

Is there a reason why these folders either can't or shouldn't be removed?

Thanks in advance. 

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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Jenifer Gilley]

The only problem I have with this ap is that I can never get a whole page!  
Quite frustrating as this ap seems to work the best for me!
Jenifer Gilley
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Amy Billman 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:05 PM
  Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps


  I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.

  I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but can 
with Text Detective.

  I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,) 
what works for one isn't always going to work for another.

  Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and didn't 
like it or it didn't work for them, but maybe it would work for someone else, 
that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your money isn't going 
to waste. *smile*

  Amy Billman

  Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!

  SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector

  http://www.SpeedDots.com

  Follow us on Twitter:

  http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots

  Like us on Facebook:

  http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sandy Finley
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

   

  Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the "start 
scanning" button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady and 
straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally blind. It 
may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure isn't working 
for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have had has been with 
either Prizmo, where one can use one's voice to activate the camera shutter, or 
SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising the camera.

   

  Sandy

   

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
VaShaun Jones
  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

   

  How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may be 
what you have been waiting for.

  The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article

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RE: unlocking orientation

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Thanks, Richard, that did the trick.

God bless!

Paula and Babe

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unlocking orientation

 

Make sure you have a couple apps running,

Then go to the app switcher, do the three finger swipe right, and you should
find the unlock button in the lower left corner.

 

HTH,

Richard


 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: unlocking orientation

I know this has been covered before, but we have a new computer and all my
archived material is not on it, so here's my simple question.  I want to
unlock the orientation of my phone so I can try text detective. I went to
the app switcher, did a 3 finger flick to the right to get to page one, then
looked for the unlock button.  All I can find is the volume button and the
dismiss app switcher prompt.  What am I not doing?  I checked in the
applevis website and couldn't find the answer, so any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula Jordan and Babe

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Re: Kindle books

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

Stanza converts books, that is correct, but be aware that it often only 
converts some of the text, I have tried it, and a lot of the text was missing.

Best regards Annie.
Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 8:36 PM skrev Chuck Dean:

> Stanza will convert books and is to my understanding, Jaws friendly.
> Here's a link:
> http://stanza-desktop.en.softonic.com/
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:24:24 AM UTC-7, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> Hi. 
> 
> No calibre is not very accessible. But I figured out a while ago, that we can 
> convert 1 book at a time, but I will advice you to delete the library file 
> often. 
> 
> Best regards Annie. 
> Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 4:51 PM skrev Russ Kiehne: 
> 
> > I didn't think calibre was accessible with speech? 
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Keith Watson 
> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:42 PM 
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: Kindle books 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I use Calibre to convert between formats. Then I dump the file into Dropbox 
> > and import into iBooks from there. 
> > 
> > Keith 
> > 
> > On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
> > 
> >> What do you use to do the conversion, and then are you just using ITunes 
> >> to put it back on the phone...  If you have ICloud, can it be accessed 
> >> that way?  Thanks .. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone 
> >> 
> >> On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Keith Watson  wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Yes. You can convert from .mobi extension to .epub extension and import 
> >>> into iBooks. Or if you can get the native epub format you can just import 
> >>> directly into iBooks. 
> >>> 
> >>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
> >>> 
>  I know that currently the kindle app isn't accessible.  However, can one 
>  get a Kindle book and convert it to something which is accessible on the 
>  I Phone.  I have a couple of books needing to be read for an assignment, 
>  and the Kindle edition is about 1/2 the price of the I Books edition .. 
>  
>  Thanks for any help. 
>  
>  Sent from my iPhone 
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RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Jon Pierson]

Hi,
Just a quick comment on the subject line here. Anyone looking for Text
Detective won't find this thread.

Jon
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

Hi Chuck,

How far from what your are trying to scan do you hold your phone?  I would
recommend that you experiment with this and each time that you get a scan
with a lot of gibberish just move the phone a little closer to your
document.  Remember that good lighting is crucial to a successful scan.


Scott E. Rumery

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On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:


I have had no success with this app.
I followed the tips, and I am in normal office lighting. I have
tried to scan, an email, a electric bill, a letter, and a page from a book.
I have tried different positions, scan lengths ETC.
I will only get one or two words, and those are usually wrong.

out of curiosity I tried using Text grabber on the same material.
It worked about 90% of the time.
Any ideas?
Chuck




On Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:50:53 AM UTC-7, VaShaun Jones wrote:

How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR
solution for your IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS
AppStore just may be what you have been waiting for.

The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
 


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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Scott Howell]

Does Text Detective leverage the flash on the iPHone?

On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> 
> How far from what your are trying to scan do you hold your phone?  I would 
> recommend that you experiment with this and each time that you get a scan 
> with a lot of gibberish just move the phone a little closer to your document. 
>  Remember that good lighting is crucial to a successful scan.
> 
> 
> Scott E. Rumery
> 
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Fedora Outlier LLC
> http://www.fedoraoutler.com
> Twiter: fedora_outlier
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/fedoraoutlierllc
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:
> 
>> I have had no success with this app.
>> I followed the tips, and I am in normal office lighting. I have tried to 
>> scan, an email, a electric bill, a letter, and a page from a book. I have 
>> tried different positions, scan lengths ETC.
>> I will only get one or two words, and those are usually wrong.
>> 
>> out of curiosity I tried using Text grabber on the same material.
>> It worked about 90% of the time.
>> Any ideas?
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 21, 2012 7:50:53 AM UTC-7, VaShaun Jones wrote:
>> How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
>> IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may 
>> be what you have been waiting for.
>> 
>> The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
>> 
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Re: Question Regarding Carat

[David Chittenden]

Killing the program kills the related processes. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 21/07/2012, at 3:52,  wrote:

> The confusing thing is that Carat help talks about being to kill processes 
> and programs in this "Process Manager". In App Switcher, I of course see the 
> programs to kills, but not the processes to which Help refers.
> 
> -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question Regarding Carat
> 
> It's the same thing.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20/07/2012, at 12:10, Keith Bundy  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Corey. I just tried that, and still get the plain old app switcher.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:28 PM, "Corey Michael Cook"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> You have to press home twice quickly.
>>> Kind of like a double tap.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Corey Cook
>>> Facebook:
>>> corey.coo...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of kb5...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question Regarding Carat
>>> 
>>> I agree. They say that pressing Home twice will get you into a process
>>> manager where processes can be killed. But I sure can't figure it out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Woody Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:01 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Question Regarding Carat
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The problem is that Carat advises killing specific processes in some cases,
>>> not just apps. As far as I know, there's no way for the user to kill a
>>> specific process, so I don't know why they advise doing it.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Rob Harris wrote:
>>> 
 Different term for the same thing.
 - Original Message - From: "Keith Bundy" 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:38 PM
 Subject: Question Regarding Carat
 
 
 I am using Carat to improve battery life of my phone, and I have a
 question.
 Carat has recommended killing and restarting some processes, and the help
 says that pressing the Home button twice will get me into the process
 manager. Of course, with VO, pressing Home twice gets me into the App
 Switcher.
 
 Does anyone know how to get into the process manager? Thanks for your
 help.
 
 Keith
 
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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Scott Howell]

I think it would make sense to recommend that the developer consider allowing 
you to leave the phone flat on the paper and once the button is tapped, have 
you lift until the page is in view for the camera. In other words combine the 
functionality of SayText and Text Detective. Seems a marriage of both apps 
would produce a pretty interesting result.

On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:12 PM, blind Treasures  wrote:

> I'm another one of those who has tried all those other OCR apps with no 
> success. With only a few attempts with TextDetective Blind Treasures I was 
> able to get very good results. It all comes down to holding the phone at the 
> right height and lighting. For a first release, this is a wonderful app and I 
> hope they keep improving it.
> Blind Treasures
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>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Amy Billman
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
> 
> I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.
> I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but can 
> with Text Detective.
> I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,) 
> what works for one isn’t always going to work for another.
> Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and didn’t 
> like it or it didn’t work for them, but maybe it would work for someone else, 
> that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your money isn’t 
> going to waste. *smile*
> Amy Billman
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sandy Finley
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>  
> Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
> scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady 
> and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally 
> blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure 
> isn’t working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have 
> had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate 
> the camera shutter, orSayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising 
> the camera.
>  
> Sandy
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> VaShaun Jones
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>  
> How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
> IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may 
> be what you have been waiting for.
> 
> The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
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RE: unlocking orientation

[Richard Turner]

Make sure you have a couple apps running,
Then go to the app switcher, do the three finger swipe right, and you should
find the unlock button in the lower left corner.
 
HTH,
Richard

 
  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: unlocking orientation



I know this has been covered before, but we have a new computer and all my
archived material is not on it, so here's my simple question.  I want to
unlock the orientation of my phone so I can try text detective. I went to
the app switcher, did a 3 finger flick to the right to get to page one, then
looked for the unlock button.  All I can find is the volume button and the
dismiss app switcher prompt.  What am I not doing?  I checked in the
applevis website and couldn't find the answer, so any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula Jordan and Babe

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RE: purchasing Aps threw iTunes

[Dianne B. Phelps]

Sandy,

 

Thank you so much for explaining all that. Now, it makes sense to me, and
I'll have to try it soon. I am kind of interested in some of the word games
mentioned among other things.

 

Dianne

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: purchasing Aps threw iTunes

 

Michael, is there a reason you especially want to purchase apps via iTunes?
I never buy apps that way and I have heard tell it's a bit convoluted,
although I can't really say. I purchase them directly from the App Store.
App store is one of the apps that was on the home screen when you bought
your phone.  Click on it and on the bottom you will find some  choices:
search, categories, update, top 25, featured. If there is a particular app
you want use Search and type the app name into the search field and Apple
will find it.  You can also browse categories. I personally find that
tedious because the apps are not in alphabetical order so, unless I  have
missed some kind of secret code,  finding one seems random at best.  You
need to have a credit card on file to do all of this. Once you say you want
to buy an app or install a free app, you will need your Apple password. Good
luck and let me know if you need something more specific.

 

Sandy

Sandy

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ppurchasing Aps threw iTunes

 

Hello Listers,

How do I go about purchasing aps threw iTunes? Can some one please give me
step by step instructions?
Thanks
Michael
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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Chuck Dean]

I have had no success with this app.
I followed the tips, and I am in normal office lighting. I have tried to 
scan, an email, a electric bill, a letter, and a page from a book. I have 
tried different positions, scan lengths ETC.
I will only get one or two words, and those are usually wrong.

out of curiosity I tried using Text grabber on the same material.
It worked about 90% of the time.
Any ideas?
Chuck




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> How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
> IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may 
> be what you have been waiting for.
>
> The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full 
> Article
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unlocking orientation

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I know this has been covered before, but we have a new computer and all my
archived material is not on it, so here's my simple question.  I want to
unlock the orientation of my phone so I can try text detective. I went to
the app switcher, did a 3 finger flick to the right to get to page one, then
looked for the unlock button.  All I can find is the volume button and the
dismiss app switcher prompt.  What am I not doing?  I checked in the
applevis website and couldn't find the answer, so any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula Jordan and Babe

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Re: I got a new bt keyboard

[Peter Lane]

Jessica,
Take a look at a couple of youtube videos: one entitled Using an Apple  
wireless keyboard with voice over,and Top Five features for voice over in IOS 
5.  Luis Perez provides some good tips on quick nav, short cut keys and web 
navigation. hth
Pete

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Jessica Brown  wrote:

> Hi. I got a new bt keyboard for my iPhone. I am trying to figure out how to 
> use it. I got it paired ok. Now I have a few things I am trying to figure 
> out. What is quick nav? What is the difference between turning it off or on? 
> Also, how do you get to the home screen on the keyboard without having to 
> press the home button? Can you use the keyboard to get to the app switcher? 
> Is there a full list of commands to use with bt keyboards and iPhones out 
> there somewhere?  This is just a generic keyboard not an apple one. Thank you.
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Re: Kindle books

[Chuck Dean]

 Stanza will convert books and is to my understanding, Jaws friendly.
Here's a link:
http://stanza-desktop.en.softonic.com/

Chuck

On Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:24:24 AM UTC-7, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>
> Hi. 
>
> No calibre is not very accessible. But I figured out a while ago, that we 
> can convert 1 book at a time, but I will advice you to delete the library 
> file often. 
>
> Best regards Annie. 
> Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 4:51 PM skrev Russ Kiehne: 
>
> > I didn't think calibre was accessible with speech? 
> > 
> > -Original Message- From: Keith Watson 
> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:42 PM 
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: Kindle books 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I use Calibre to convert between formats. Then I dump the file into 
> Dropbox and import into iBooks from there. 
> > 
> > Keith 
> > 
> > On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
> > 
> >> What do you use to do the conversion, and then are you just using 
> ITunes to put it back on the phone...  If you have ICloud, can it be 
> accessed that way?  Thanks .. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone 
> >> 
> >> On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Keith Watson  wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Yes. You can convert from .mobi extension to .epub extension and 
> import into iBooks. Or if you can get the native epub format you can just 
> import directly into iBooks. 
> >>> 
> >>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Peter Logan wrote: 
> >>> 
>  I know that currently the kindle app isn't accessible.  However, can 
> one get a Kindle book and convert it to something which is accessible on 
> the I Phone.  I have a couple of books needing to be read for an 
> assignment, and the Kindle edition is about 1/2 the price of the I Books 
> edition .. 
>  
>  Thanks for any help. 
>  
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Re: Kindle books

[Chuck Dean]

Sorry, I am not sure what is happening. I am web based, I do not recieve 
emails, so maybe that has something to do with it.

I have had a few complaints, and if it continues, I will stop posting.
Chuck

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> *Just an FYI,*
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> * *
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> *Keith*
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> * *
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Re: Volume with dropvox

[chris hallsworth]

This cannot be done.
- Original Message - 
From: "Godwin Adoyi" 

To: "Viphone Group" 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:21 PM
Subject: Volume with dropvox



Hello,

For those of you using Dropvox, how do you increase the volume? I can 
hardly

hear my voice in the play back.

Thanks,

Godwin



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Re: purchased an ap but can not install it

[Michael Amaro]

thanks to every one I was able to authorize the computer  and install it on 
my phone How ever from now on I think I am going to the aps store directly. 
Does anyone know if there is a free ap out there that will let me listen to 
oldies and choose a specific artist?


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To: 
Subject: RE: purchased an ap but can not install it


Hi Michael,
In iTunes, alt plus S for the Store menu, followed by the letter a, for
Authorize This Computer should get you on the gright track.

Jon

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Subject: purchased an ap but can not install it

Hello Listers,
I managed to purchase the money reader Ap but I don't know how to install
it.  I used iTunes.  Every time I try to Install it tells me that the ap 
was
not installed on my iPhone because my computer is not authorized.  How do 
I

authorize it?  Mean while I don't install the ap ware is it? if I shut my
computer down can I reinstall it in the morning?
Thanks
Michael
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RE: Kindle books

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Chuck,

 

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RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[blind Treasures]

I'm another one of those who has tried all those other OCR apps with no
success. With only a few attempts with TextDetective Blind Treasures I was
able to get very good results. It all comes down to holding the phone at the
right height and lighting. For a first release, this is a wonderful app and
I hope they keep improving it. 
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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps


I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.
I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but
can with Text Detective.
I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,)
what works for one isn't always going to work for another.
Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and
didn't like it or it didn't work for them, but maybe it would work for
someone else, that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your
money isn't going to waste. *smile*
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
Follow us on Twitter:
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Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
 
Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the "start
scanning" button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady
and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally
blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure
isn't working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have
had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one's voice to activate
the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising
the camera.
 
Sandy
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
 
How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may
be what you have been waiting for.
 <http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/the-sherlock-holmes-of-ocr-apps-2/#more-615>
The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
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RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Sandy Finley]

Scott, thank you for responding.  I will not delete the app in hopes of
future adjustments. It seems as if no scanning app on a mobile phone works
as well as larger scanners guess that's to be expected. I will go write
something on your blog later. Have a good day!

 

 

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Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

 

Sandy, I am the one that wrote this blog post, and I completely agree with
you about the tapping to start the scan issue.  I think that is important to
remember that this is the first version of this app, and it might be a good
idea if those of us who have bought this app contact the developer with our
comments so that they will know what some of our issues with the app is.  I
for one have had very good results with Text Detective and have no trouble
recommending it to others.  I really do appreciate your comments and if you
didn't leave a comment on our blog would you please do so?  This is how we
will be able to keep track of how many people we are getting to read our
blog posts.

 

If you have any suggestions as to an app or something with the iPhone that I
can write please let me know and I will see if I can put a future post.
together.

 

Scott E. Rumery

 

Assistive Technology Consultant

Fedora Outlier LLC

http://www.fedoraoutler.com

Twiter: fedora_outlier

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/fedoraoutlierllc

On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:





Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the "start
scanning" button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady
and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally
blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure
isn't working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have
had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one's voice to activate
the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising
the camera.

 

Sandy

 

 

 

 

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OfVaShaun Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

 

How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may
be what you have been waiting for.

 
The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article

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Re: I am learning how to do this and I'll start with a couple of basic questions.Navigating through email with QuikNav

[Peter Lane]

 Sandy,Wwhen Quick Nav is on, you can use short cut keys to navigate to various 
web  site elements with asingle key. For example, L will take you to links; 
h to headers; f to form controls, etc. Shift plus those keys will reverse uour  
order in scrolling through those elements. As far as reading through a site, 
again I use the on screen jestures: two fingers up and down. I have an iPad and 
find  web navigation particularly difficult since the screen is large and the 
web site configurations are generally more complex and confusing than with the 
iPhone. Check out the youtube video on using the Apple wireless keyboard with 
voice over,  as well as the one titled Top Five voice over features in IOS 5, 
also by Luis Perez.
Pete
Sent from my iPad

On Jul 21, 2012, at 11:21 AM, "Sandy Finley"  wrote:

> Pete, thanks. That’s interesting because I’d already figured those things 
> outand  was sure that I was missing something about reading a message. You 
> confirmed what I suspected. What about reading a long web page? I’ll look for 
> the video.
>  
> Sandy
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Peter Lane
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: VIAPHONE
> Subject: Re: I am learning how to do this and I'll start with a couple of 
> basic questions.Navigating through email with QuikNav
>  
> Sandy,
> I use quick nav for almost all of my VO commands.  If I want to read an email 
> in it's entirety, I then use my twfinger swipe up or down.  Quick Nav is good 
> for reading line by  line with the right and left arrow keys, and for 
> selecting an item with the up down arrow keys simultaneously.  It''s also 
> very easy to rotate and use your roter functions via use of the right or left 
> arrow and up arrow keys I found an excellent youtube video by Luis Perez on 
> use of the Bluetooth keyboard with voice oever..  Search  youtube for 
> bluetooth keyboard with voice over. hth
> Pete
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 7:20 AM, "Sandy Finley"  wrote:
> 
> 1.When should QuickNav be on and when off?
> 2. I am reading a message and am  having trouble reading it from top to 
> bottom. How do I do that?
> Is there a podcast or tutorial on QuickNav? Thanks..
>  
> Sandy
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Advice on best way to communicate with app developers, and what to ask for re: accessibility, VoiceOver compatibility, etc

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

I'm not real tech savvy, but there are times I'd like to communicate
with app developers about no accessibility, suboptimal accessibility, or
suboptimized accessibility, particularly incomplete button labeling for
VoiceOver, etc.

I'd appreciate advice on how to best approach app developers to raise
these concerns, and what I should say, to increase the best chances of a
positive and complete, thorough response.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: anagrams

[JoJo and Clinton]

Thanks Rob!!  Great web site.

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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Scott Rumery]

Hi Amy, 

This is why I wish that more developers would have a demo version of their apps 
available from their website.  Of course then we would all have to go to their 
websites, but I that this would be what all of the developers would want.

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On Jul 21, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Amy Billman wrote:

> I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.
> I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but can 
> with Text Detective.
> I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,) 
> what works for one isn’t always going to work for another.
> Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and didn’t 
> like it or it didn’t work for them, but maybe it would work for someone else, 
> that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your money isn’t 
> going to waste. *smile*
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
> Follow us on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
> Like us on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sandy Finley
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>  
> Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
> scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady 
> and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally 
> blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure 
> isn’t working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have 
> had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate 
> the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising 
> the camera.
>  
> Sandy
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> OfVaShaun Jones
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>  
> How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
> IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may 
> be what you have been waiting for.
> 
> The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
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Re: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Scott Rumery]

Sandy, I am the one that wrote this blog post, and I completely agree with you 
about the tapping to start the scan issue.  I think that is important to 
remember that this is the first version of this app, and it might be a good 
idea if those of us who have bought this app contact the developer with our 
comments so that they will know what some of our issues with the app is.  I for 
one have had very good results with Text Detective and have no trouble 
recommending it to others.  I really do appreciate your comments and if you 
didn't leave a comment on our blog would you please do so?  This is how we will 
be able to keep track of how many people we are getting to read our blog posts.

If you have any suggestions as to an app or something with the iPhone that I 
can write please let me know and I will see if I can put a future post. 
together.

Scott E. Rumery

Assistive Technology Consultant
Fedora Outlier LLC
http://www.fedoraoutler.com
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/fedoraoutlierllc
On Jul 21, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Sandy Finley wrote:

> Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the “start 
> scanning” button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady 
> and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally 
> blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure 
> isn’t working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have 
> had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one’s voice to activate 
> the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising 
> the camera.
>  
> Sandy
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> OfVaShaun Jones
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
>  
> How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your 
> IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may 
> be what you have been waiting for.
> 
> The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
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Re: anagrams

[JoJo and Clinton]

Thanks Anna.  I went and bought the game.  I love it.  The game costs $1.99 
but was well worth it.  This is just my opinion of course.


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Re: Kindle books

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

No calibre is not very accessible. But I figured out a while ago, that we can 
convert 1 book at a time, but I will advice you to delete the library file 
often.

Best regards Annie.
Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 4:51 PM skrev Russ Kiehne:

> I didn't think calibre was accessible with speech?
> 
> -Original Message- From: Keith Watson
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Kindle books
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use Calibre to convert between formats. Then I dump the file into Dropbox 
> and import into iBooks from there.
> 
> Keith
> 
> On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Peter Logan wrote:
> 
>> What do you use to do the conversion, and then are you just using ITunes to 
>> put it back on the phone...  If you have ICloud, can it be accessed that 
>> way?  Thanks ..
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Keith Watson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes. You can convert from .mobi extension to .epub extension and import 
>>> into iBooks. Or if you can get the native epub format you can just import 
>>> directly into iBooks.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Peter Logan wrote:
>>> 
 I know that currently the kindle app isn't accessible.  However, can one 
 get a Kindle book and convert it to something which is accessible on the I 
 Phone.  I have a couple of books needing to be read for an assignment, and 
 the Kindle edition is about 1/2 the price of the I Books edition ..
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
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RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Amy Billman]

I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.
I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but
can with Text Detective.
I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,)
what works for one isn't always going to work for another.
Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and
didn't like it or it didn't work for them, but maybe it would work for
someone else, that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your
money isn't going to waste. *smile*
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
 
Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the "start
scanning" button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady
and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally
blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure
isn't working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have
had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one's voice to activate
the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising
the camera.
 
Sandy
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of VaShaun Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
 
How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may
be what you have been waiting for.
 <http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/the-sherlock-holmes-of-ocr-apps-2/#more-615>
The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
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RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Sandy Finley]

Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the "start
scanning" button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady
and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally
blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure
isn't working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have
had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one's voice to activate
the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising
the camera.

 

Sandy

 

 

 

 

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Of VaShaun Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

 

How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may
be what you have been waiting for.

 
The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article

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Re: Kindle books

[Chuck Dean]

Removing the DRM is legal in the case of accessibility issues.  This ruling 
was made in July 2011.

I have converted Kindle books in the past, but I avoid Kindle books if I 
can. I have gone as far as scanning a book page by page so I wouldn't have 
to buy the Kindle book. If they want my money, they should make an 
accessible app.
Chuck


On Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:04:20 AM UTC-7, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
>
> Hi Chuck.
>
> You will still have to remove the drm. Is it legal to discuss on this list 
> how to do that?
>
> Best regards Annie.
> Den Jul 21, 2012 kl. 3:03 AM skrev Chuck Dean:
>
> In the past, it was necessary to strip the DRM from Kindle Books before 
> they could be converted. Has this changed?
> Chuck
>
> BTW Stanza will convert books and is to my understanding, Jaws friendly.
> Here's a link:
> http://stanza-desktop.en.softonic.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:37:47 PM UTC-7, Peter Logan wrote:
>>
>> I know that currently the kindle app isn't accessible.  However, can one 
>> get a Kindle book and convert it to something which is accessible on the I 
>> Phone.  I have a couple of books needing to be read for an assignment, and 
>> the Kindle edition is about 1/2 the price of the I Books edition .. 
>>
>> Thanks for any help. 
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: anagrams

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks for this, Rob. I haven't tried yet, but they look fun.

Teresa

On Jul 21, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Rob Harris wrote:

> http://hoh.me.uk/games/
> 
> I can't remember what I called it, but it is that game you play online in 
> Safari. There's other interesting puzzles there too.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Stacey Robinson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 3:20 PM
> Subject: anagrams
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I'm looking for a single player anagram game (hopefully free) that works 
> with Voiceover. Can anyone help?
> Any direct links are appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
> 
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RE: apple wireless keyboard.

[Richard Turner]

Yes, iPad, iPhone or iPod Touch, or a Mac computer.

Also be aware that if you just let it go to sleep, any key press will wake
up your device.  I got into the habit of taking out a battery when I put it
in a bag or brief case to make sure it didn't wake up the device and leave
it running.

Richard
 

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Oh ok thanks, you can use it with the IPad correct?

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Re: Fleksy featured in the App Store

[Carol Pearson]

Just had to say that this is brilliant news!

Carol P
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From: Rose Morales
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Fleksy featured in the App Store

> Hi all, I've been watching this list very carefully as of
> late, but forgive me if this has already been mentioned.
> I was looking at the featured area of the app store today
> and clicked on productivity. And guess which app was
> right at the top of the list? That's right, Fleksy!
> Personally I think this is great news. It means apple has
> really taken notice of this app. That's really the first
> step to getting an app like this integrated with ios, or
> at least standard apps within ios. Even if apple doesn't
> take steps to work with Fleksy, it's still encouraging to
> see that Fleksy hasn't slipped under the radar by any
> means. Hope you are all having a lovely day. Rose
> 
> Typed with Fleksy
> 
> 
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Re: anagrams

[Stacey Robinson]

How accessible is this with VO.

On Jul 21, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Phil Vlasak wrote:

> Peter Damen's Worder.
> Worder is a challenging anagram word game which tests your ability to find 
> words within a set of nine letters.
> Worder requires no internet connection and is great for plane flights, 
> commuting on subways and remote travel destinations.
> The object of the game is to make as many words as possible, and find the one 
> word using all nine letters too.
> Worder has no timers, explosions or music, just sit down for a relaxing game 
> of Worder, playing at your own pace.
> Worder includes many game options, including a "Shared Letter" mode where all 
> words should include the highlighted letter, or standard mode that allows
> you to use all letters.
> The minimum word length for a game can also be selected, which can limit the 
> number of words that need to be found.
> Worder also includes 6 difficulty levels, so that Worder can cater for those 
> who are intimidated by games with large word sets,
> to those people who are word game experts. Level 6 includes all words, where 
> lower levels include a subset of the entire word list,
> based on how commonly words are used in everyday language and text.
> You can challenge your friends by sending your current game for them to play. 
> See if they can beat your score.
> 
> Version 3.0 costs $1.99
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/worder/id295069415?mt=8
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Woody Anna Dresner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: anagrams
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Worder is a good anagram game. I don't remember whether it's free because I 
> got it a long time ago.
> 
> There are four unlabeled buttons near the top of the opening screen and many 
> of the other screens. From left to right, they are
> New game
> Resume game
> Instructions
> Configuration
> The configuration screen is mostly accessible, xcept that most of the 
> unlabeld buttons are Info, and the final one is Done. Also, you can't flick 
> to all the controls, but you can touch them. On this screen, you decide 
> whether to allow 3-letter words, whether adding S is necessary, whether to 
> use American or British spelling, and a few more things.
> 
> When you're playing a game, there is a group of 8 letters, each of which is a 
> button. Double-tap a letter button, and the letter appears in a text box 
> below the letters. When you have all the letters entered, flick to the Plus 
> button to the right of the text field, and double-tap it. There's no sound, 
> but your total number of words goes up and the word is added to the list. 
> Both of these pieces of info are available after the text box. There's also a 
> Cross button that deletes what's in the text box. If there's nothing in the 
> text box, it seems to cross out the last word you entered and not let you 
> enter that word again. I'm not sure why. There's also a Flag button. This 
> lets you forfeit the game. There's no time limit, which I love.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Samara Raine wrote:
> 
>> I would love a game like this too.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Stacey Robinson" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:20 AM
>> Subject: anagrams
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I'm looking for a single player anagram game (hopefully free) that works 
>>> with Voiceover. Can anyone help?
>>> Any direct links are appreciated.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
>>> 
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Re: anagrams

[Phil Vlasak]

Peter Damen's Worder.
Worder is a challenging anagram word game which tests your ability to find 
words within a set of nine letters.
Worder requires no internet connection and is great for plane flights, 
commuting on subways and remote travel destinations.
The object of the game is to make as many words as possible, and find the 
one word using all nine letters too.
Worder has no timers, explosions or music, just sit down for a relaxing game 
of Worder, playing at your own pace.
Worder includes many game options, including a "Shared Letter" mode where 
all words should include the highlighted letter, or standard mode that 
allows

you to use all letters.
The minimum word length for a game can also be selected, which can limit the 
number of words that need to be found.
Worder also includes 6 difficulty levels, so that Worder can cater for those 
who are intimidated by games with large word sets,
to those people who are word game experts. Level 6 includes all words, where 
lower levels include a subset of the entire word list,

based on how commonly words are used in everyday language and text.
You can challenge your friends by sending your current game for them to 
play. See if they can beat your score.


Version 3.0 costs $1.99
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/worder/id295069415?mt=8


- Original Message - 
From: "Woody Anna Dresner" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: anagrams


Hi,

Worder is a good anagram game. I don't remember whether it's free because I 
got it a long time ago.


There are four unlabeled buttons near the top of the opening screen and many 
of the other screens. From left to right, they are

New game
Resume game
Instructions
Configuration
The configuration screen is mostly accessible, xcept that most of the 
unlabeld buttons are Info, and the final one is Done. Also, you can't flick 
to all the controls, but you can touch them. On this screen, you decide 
whether to allow 3-letter words, whether adding S is necessary, whether to 
use American or British spelling, and a few more things.


When you're playing a game, there is a group of 8 letters, each of which is 
a button. Double-tap a letter button, and the letter appears in a text box 
below the letters. When you have all the letters entered, flick to the Plus 
button to the right of the text field, and double-tap it. There's no sound, 
but your total number of words goes up and the word is added to the list. 
Both of these pieces of info are available after the text box. There's also 
a Cross button that deletes what's in the text box. If there's nothing in 
the text box, it seems to cross out the last word you entered and not let 
you enter that word again. I'm not sure why. There's also a Flag button. 
This lets you forfeit the game. There's no time limit, which I love.


HTH,
Anna




On Jul 21, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Samara Raine wrote:


I would love a game like this too.


- Original Message - From: "Stacey Robinson" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject: anagrams



Hi all,
I'm looking for a single player anagram game (hopefully free) that works 
with Voiceover. Can anyone help?

Any direct links are appreciated.
Thanks,
Stacey and GEB dog Chesley


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Re: apple wireless keyboard.

[jeffry miller]

Oh ok thanks, you can use it with the IPad correct?

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RE: Bluant Q2, question.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Jennifer,

You can buy this headset just about anywhere Bluetooth headsets are sold and
if you search the archives for "Blueant Q2" you will find quite a few posts
as this headset has been discussed a lot on the list. Lowest price I found
was on Amazon for $34.79 with free shipping.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Removing the Stocks Folder:

[jeffry miller]

i just take the foldders i don't use and move them to a page off the 
main screen one i don't have to go to.  It's there but don't have to be 
bothered with it if that is a big deal.


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Re: anagrams

[JoJo and Clinton]

I have word popper and word warp.  I love both of them..

JoJo

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Re: Facebook and Twitter

[Carol Pearson]

I think Jenn wanted to do it from FB rather than from Twitter.

I just do it from Twitter (as shown below) and find it a lot easier!

Carol P
 Original Message 
From: "Kliphton" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: Facebook and Twitter


Just connect your Facebook account in your twitter
profile.  Then whenever you tweet, unless it's an RT or a
mention, then it will show up in your timeline on
Facebook. 


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie
Facer 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 7:37 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Facebook and Twitter

How do you share something from Facebook to Twitter?
There are some tweets i want to put on Facebook.

Thank you so much!

Jenn

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RE: Kindle books

[Rose Combs]

Why do we have to convert, reconvert, send it to some place and then load it
on an i device.  Who has time for all this.  



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Of Keith Watson
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle books

Hi,

Can;t help you with Winblows as I am a MAc user. I do remember seeing some
youtube videos about using Calibre with JAWS though. I cheated and got my
daughter to help get it set up so that when a mobi file is in a particular
directory it converts to epub automatically and moves it into Dropbox for
me. The wonders of using Hazel on a Mac.

Keith

On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Don Moore wrote:

> I haven't figured out how to get Calibre to work with Jaws or to 
> convert anything.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Keith Watson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Kindle books
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use Calibre to convert between formats. Then I dump the file into 
> Dropbox and import into iBooks from there.
> 
> Keith
> 
> On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Peter Logan wrote:
> 
>> What do you use to do the conversion, and then are you just using 
>> ITunes to put it back on the phone...  If you have ICloud, can it be 
>> accessed that way?  Thanks ..
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Keith Watson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes. You can convert from .mobi extension to .epub extension and 
>>> import into iBooks. Or if you can get the native epub format you can 
>>> just import directly into iBooks.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Peter Logan wrote:
>>> 
 I know that currently the kindle app isn't accessible.  However, 
 can one get a Kindle book and convert it to something which is 
 accessible on the I Phone.  I have a couple of books needing to be 
 read for an assignment, and the Kindle edition is about 1/2 the price
of the I Books edition ..
 
 Thanks for any help.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Removing the Stocks Folder:

[Sandy Finley]

You can put the ones you don't want on page four or five, out of the way.
You can also take the stock wiget out of your notification center.

Sandy


-Original Message-
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Of Don Moore
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Removing the Stocks Folder:

I would like to remove, among other things, the stocks folder and the
pictures folder from my iPhone 4S.

While I found many of my applications in the settings area, I didn't find
those and haven't been successful in removing it using the other method
suggested the other day.

Is there a reason why these folders either can't or shouldn't be removed?

Thanks in advance. 

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