Fwd: traveling for the next 2 weeks

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello all. I am forwarding this reminder that I wrote on February 17. I have 
been trying to catch up with moderated messages and see a few test messages in 
there which I am ignoring. If you are on moderation it may take a while for 
your message to get through because I am still traveling. If you are a New 
subscriber to the list you are automatically on moderation until I can see that 
you post relevant messages as well as seeing that you are a real person. Other 
people who are on moderation could be because of excessive bouncing, one-liner 
messages, or off-topic posts. Things should return to normal for me after this 
coming Wednesday, 27 February. Thank you.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> Date: February 17, 2013, 9:40:37 PM MST
> To: ViPhone List 
> Subject: traveling for the next 2 weeks
> 
> Hi all. Just as an FYI, I'm going to Austin tomorrow and then after, going to 
> Denver to visit my mother. This means that I'll be traveling for the next 2 
> weeks. I won't have a laptop, but I will have my iPhone. I'll still be able 
> to moderate message for those users who are on moderation, but there will be 
> delays since I won't be able to get to it every day. So, if you are moderated 
> and your message isn't put through right away, that is why. Also, if anything 
> comes up concerning the list which is urgent, please send me an email 
> directly with the words "viphone list" somewhere in the subject. Another way 
> to reach me is by mentioning me on Twitter with the words "viphone List", and 
> if I'm not following you, I will start so we can DM each other. That way I'll 
> be able to more quickly handle things concerning the list if they require 
> more immediate attention.
> 
> Thanks much, and happy iOSing.
> 
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> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

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RE: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

[Dani L Pagador]

Hi, Alan.
Do you have a braille display? If yes, that would make selecting a lot
easier.I'll wait for your reply about the braille display before I start
rambling about the rotor. But you may want to read up on cursor movement
before you start fighting with text selection. A great article is at
www.blindhow.com; it's called Tips on editing text using the onscreen
keyboard for the iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad and VoiceOver.
HTH,
Dani 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:45 PM
To: VIPhone Email List
Subject: Help Needed Editing Text with Rotor

I really need some specific instructions on how to edit text using the
rotor. I've had quite a few occasions where I've been entering text such as
a user name and password and neglected to move the focus to the next field
before entering the next entry. So I end up with the user name and password
mashed together in the user name field or I end up with the phone number I'm
texting to and the text message mashed together in the send to field.

 

I know it's possible to use the rotor to highlight the second field's text,
cut it, and then paste it to the proper field but I need specific
instructions on how to do this. I've tried getting the rotor set to edit,
then swiping up and down to get to select but once I've done this, I've no
idea how to mark the text I want to select. I feel like I've got the general
concepts down but I can't quite figure out the specific steps to highlight,
then cut and paste. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Also, if anyone can recommend a good podcast on using the rotor, I'll gladly
download it and study it.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Question about FAceTime

[Dani L Pagador]

Thanks, Rob. This means I'll be able to visit with my aunt in California.
More Later,
Dani

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RobH!
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about FAceTime

They're unrelated.  Facetime is vidieo communication, nothing to do with
Facebook.

YOur phone number or email address you use for your apple id is what someone
else would use to call you.  You need to switch it on in settings somewhere.
- Original Message -
From: "Dani L Pagador" 
To: "'iPhone for visually impaired'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:37 AM
Subject: Question about FAceTime


Hi, Everyone.

I've got an Apple ID and password. Can I use these to use FaceTime, or do I
need to actually open a FaceBook account?

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: A suggestion for Fleksy?

[Charles Dean]

Sorry, but I do not have these problems... Fleksy works great for me. 

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 

On Feb 22, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Sandratomkins  wrote:

> Hi to the list and the Fleksy people,
> 
>I really like Fleksy, and would love to see it as a systemwide option for 
> the onboard keyboard. However, I have huge difficulties with the 'Accurate" 
> mode. It simply doesn't work for me, indeed, I often find I accidentally 
> delete what I hae previously written. I would like to suggest something, a 
> gesture, perhaps the three finger side swipe, to put the keyboard in normal 
> keyboard mode and then the same gesture, on the opposite direction, to put us 
> back in Fleksy mode. Not only is the accurate mode unresponsive with me, I 
> find it difficult to use extra symbols, so I would love to be able to access 
> them in the normal way. In other words, should Fleksy ever become systemwide, 
> I think it would be necessary to have the option to switch between the usual 
> and Fleksy with a simple gesture. I think then all my keyboard needs would be 
> answered.
> 
>With Fleksy as it is, I wouldn't like to see it being my main method of 
> writing in the iPhone sans external keyboard.
> 
>What do people think? Are there many of us with these difficulties or am I 
> the only one?
> 
>Thanks, Sandy. 
> 
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Re: How to share Move?

[Sandratomkins]

Hi Rob,

By "share", I mean in the sense of sharing the link to the app. Indeed, we 
cannot share actual apps, only their info. I did find the option for this by 
looking in my "purchased Apps" in the app store. With so many apps with similar 
titles, it is often nec to have the direct link so as to avoid recommending 
something not VO friendly.

The app in question, Move, is an exercise app, which we have been 
discussing here of late. It reminds you to exercise on an hourly basis, 
(changeable) suggests what exercise to do, and has videos demonstrating them. 
Many of these videos are described verbally, but some are not. Having completed 
your exercise, you touch the 'I did it!" button and it goes down on your record 
sheet. It is a good motivational app and, as people have said, when it is not 
clear how do perform the newly suggested exercise, you can always do another 
that you like/need to do instead.

HTH, Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Feb 2013, at 09:22, "RobH!"  wrote:

> What is it?  not sure you can share apps that way.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sandratomkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:03 PM
> Subject: How to share Move?
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
>I have "Move" installed and love it! However, I want to share it with a 
> friend, but can I find a share link? No! There doesn't seem to be an "About" 
> section in settings or anywhere else! Could someone send me a link to it 
> please? i don't think it matters which country you are in, the app store 
> will make the adjustment. My friend is in Australia, but, as I say, I don't 
> think it matters.
> 
>Ta! Sandy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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A suggestion for Fleksy?

[Sandratomkins]

Hi to the list and the Fleksy people,

I really like Fleksy, and would love to see it as a systemwide option for 
the onboard keyboard. However, I have huge difficulties with the 'Accurate" 
mode. It simply doesn't work for me, indeed, I often find I accidentally delete 
what I hae previously written. I would like to suggest something, a gesture, 
perhaps the three finger side swipe, to put the keyboard in normal keyboard 
mode and then the same gesture, on the opposite direction, to put us back in 
Fleksy mode. Not only is the accurate mode unresponsive with me, I find it 
difficult to use extra symbols, so I would love to be able to access them in 
the normal way. In other words, should Fleksy ever become systemwide, I think 
it would be necessary to have the option to switch between the usual and Fleksy 
with a simple gesture. I think then all my keyboard needs would be answered.

With Fleksy as it is, I wouldn't like to see it being my main method of 
writing in the iPhone sans external keyboard.

What do people think? Are there many of us with these difficulties or am I 
the only one?

Thanks, Sandy. 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: a YouVersion Bible question.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hi Again folks:

 

I've resolved the problem.  The problem was that when I requested a
reference via dictation, the numbers were treated as words thus, the lookup
faled.  The key is, to prefex the number with the word "NumberSign."

 

Blessings.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a YouVersion Bible question.

 

Hi Folks:

 

How does one dictate a search for a particular bible reference using the
YouVersion app?  I've tried all kinds of combinations but, so far, no joy.

 

Any help would be appreciated all over the place.

 

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Internal Virus Database is out of date.

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apps and podcasts

[buddy liverman]

i downloaded a great gps close to the breeze blindsquare, i am trying 
to get a podcast it is a Sunday school class the website uses flash i 
could use itunes but i had rather use the app on my phone icatcher, it 
is john akers peter's stumbling i think the site still under 
development cccmontreat.org or edu. i would like to subscribe it no 
longer airs on the radio after next week. called the church they don't 
know yet how to do it on an iphone thanks Buddy, i think they are 
making an app ma ybe on the phone it is accessible but on the pc flash 
forget it thanks Buddy.


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Re: nook app

[Liz and Sammie]

Go to the Barnes and Noble web site and sign up for an account. Once you do 
that, you can sign into the Nook App.

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 

http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

On Feb 22, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:

> Hi all.  I just got the nook app.  Which site do I get an account on as it 
> doesn't give me the opportunity to set up a nook account? thanks.
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Re: Accessible App. Watch Free Movies - OVGuide

[Alan Paganelli]

I was hoping they had TV shows.  This app looks like another app I use to have 
before they became not accessible.  I don't recall it's name but they had the 
same tabs as OVguid except they had both movies and TV shows.  You couldn't 
stream the video if you had the Bose Sound Dock 10 though.  That's one of the 
features of the sound dock 10.  You could shoot the video out to a TV's input 
and still listen to the audio via the sound dock 10.  I'll have to try this app 
with it and see.  Thanks for the recommendation though.  It's on my phone.
  - Original Message - 
  From: MamaPeach 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:29 AM
  Subject: Re: Accessible App. Watch Free Movies - OVGuide


  It isn’t hard to find, simply search the app store for OVGUIDE.

  From: Marcy Weinberg 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:52 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Accessible App. Watch Free Movies - OVGuide

  Would you please provide a link to the app? Thank you!




  -- 
  Marcy weinberg
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  Fedora Outlier, LLC
  Top down, BETTER THAN EXCELLENT ™ consulting, teaching and support
  http://www.fedoraoutlier.com
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  ma...@fedoraoutlier.com


  On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:18 PM, "liz and sammie"  
wrote:


I just installed this app, and it is indeed free.  It has quite a selection 
of movies and documentaries.  It is extremely accessible.
Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator
and Avon Representative
HTTP://WWW.YOURAVON.COM/ELIZABETHULRICH

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


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Moving selected messages from my inbox

[Morné van der Merwe]

Hello list,

 

I have an iPad 3. When I want to move messages from my inbox to the bin, I
do it one by one. Is there a way to select for example four messages and
move them together to the bin in stead of one by one?

 

Regards

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Re: weirdness with new charger cord

[Dan Beaver GMail]

Hi all,

I have been trying different things to determine exactly what is causing the 
strange behavior I described before.

It turns out that I only see this strangeness when using the power cube that 
came with the new charger cord.  If I use the cube from my original cord it 
behaves exactly as it should.

I guess I'll be going back to the supplier and see if they'll replace/refund 
that part of my order.

I hope this helps others.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver 

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Re: Is Anyone Running the Latest iOS Update?

[Nimit Kaur]

Hi Guys,

Wait! R u guys talking about 6.1 update that came like some months
before or is there a recent one and I haven't gotten the notification
yet?  Thanks!


On 2/22/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> I haven't encountered any problems yet.
>
> Bob Fenton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-02-22, at 7:16 PM, Scott Van Gorp  wrote:
>
>> On a related note, does anyone know if it works on jailbroken phones?
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Dani L Pagador
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:26 PM
>> To: 'iPhone for visually impaired'
>> Subject: Is Anyone Running the Latest iOS Update?
>>
>> Hi, Everyone.
>> Is anyone running the latest iOS update—6.1.2, I think? If so, is your
>> iDevice running smoothly? Or are there glitches to watch for?
>> I’m getting the update notification, but hesitate to do anything till I
>> get a feel for how others are doing with it.
>> Thanks,
>> Dani
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iOS 6.1 User Guide VoiceOver Gesture Errors

[Alan Lemly]

I've been reviewing the VoiceOver gestures section of the iOS 6.1 User Guide
I downloaded from the Apple Support site. I noticed the guide says the
gesture to turn the screen curtain on or off is a three-finger quadruple tap
but with my phone, this is done with a three-finger triple tap. Also, the
user guide says to mute VoiceOver speech, use a three-finger triple tap but
mine is muted with a three-finger double tap.

 

Has anyone else noticed this error? Have those gestures changed at some
point or did Apple just make an error in the documentation?

 

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Re: clearing an iPhone?

[Alan Paganelli]

Yes, go to settings, general, and Reset.  The second item is errace all 
settings and content.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Crystal French 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:36 PM
  Subject: clearing an iPhone?


  Hi,
  I am considering an iPhone 5.
  I am using an iPhone 4.
  I would like to trade my 4 in, or sell it.
  Is there a good way to clear all personal information from the iPhone?
  Thanks.
  Crystal 

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Re: Why iPhone

[Wes]

I would personally go with the iPhone, even though I have a Galaxy.  You 
can do more things with VO than you can Talkback E.G. label unlabeled 
buttons, which I think is essential.  A part where Android and Talkback 
are seriously lacking are web views, and internet.  If you don't know 
what web views are, some apps use them to display their content.  
Sometimes Talkback works, and other times it crashes, and you need to re 
enable it.  Speaking of re enabling Talkback, there is no way to do that 
on your own.  Well, there is, if you have a pure Android device running 
4.2.  With the Galaxies, and other phones running skins over the top of 
Android, it is not possible.  Going back to the internet, you can't 
browse effectively, IMHO.  You can't navigate by heading, link, visited 
link, table, ETC ETC.
I hope this answers at least some of your questions, and if you have 
more, let me know on list or off.

On 2/22/2013 5:42 PM, Aaron Linson wrote:

Hi List,
I'm not new to the iPhone but I'm new to this list. I was curious why the 
iPhone when android has been getting pretty good at accessibility? The reason 
I'm asking is because my contract will be up in september and I'm torn on which 
platform to go with? I own an iPad and a macbook pro as well. I'm just not sure 
what to do.
Thanks for any help,
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Some questions on the twitter app

[Jed Barton]

Hey guys,

How do I setup twitter so it sends me a notification sound?
I see all my tweets, but trying to get to settings and all that.

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant

[Anthony Vece]

It is in our store in the USA.
And, it still free.
I just downloaded it.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

> Hi,
> The app is called Speaktoit, with a t at the end, not a d.
> 
> I bought it some time ago but it should still be available in the U.S. app 
> store.  Do a search on speaktoit and it should show up in the list of results.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Fred Olver" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoi Assistant
> 
> 
>> It apparently is not available here in the states.
>> 
>> Fred Olver
>> - Original Message - From: "BBS" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:40 AM
>> Subject: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi all. I was doing a search for Siri-like apps again to see if there was 
>>> anything new out there and I came across this one. It's called Speaktoid 
>>> Assistant. It's very similar to the Voice Answer assistant but there are 
>>> features that are in this app that I wish Voice Answer had. For example, 
>>> when sending a text to your contacts, instead of you pressing the send 
>>> button, the assistant would ask you if this is the text you want to send 
>>> and you just reply yes or no to it. You can also send email with it but 
>>> I've never tried that yet and reluctant to do so because from personal 
>>> experiences, other dictation apps would mess it up. Anyway, as of this 
>>> writing, the app is free for a limited time. For a more indepth description 
>>> go to https://itunes.apple.com/app/speaktoit-assistant/id491854246. Enjoy!
>>> 
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Re: Looking for GPS with Greatest Number of POIs

[Ari Moisio]

Hi

If number of POIs is critical i'll suggest  Blindsquare.



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Subject: Looking for GPS with Greatest Number of POIs
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:23:10 -0500
From: Craig Werner 
To: viphone 

Greetings to the list.

Iam in search of an app that tracks location and lists points of
interest (POIs) around that location.  I have LookAround from Sendero.
Are there other apps I should be looking at?

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Re: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi,

I got it but how do I use it?  It does not respond to me at all.

Ketan

-Original Message- 
From: Eileens Misrahi

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant

Hello,

My phone carrier is ATT-T. I installed this app a couple of days ago and it 
is working just fine. May be uninstalling it and doing a fresh install will 
fix the problem. I had fun using it last night. Good luck.


Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:

Hi all, I got this up, but I was told that I am not authorized to use the 
service and to contact my provider. My provider is AT&T Just thought you 
all might want to know. God bless Wren


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:58 AM, "Fred Olver"  wrote:


It apparently is not available here in the states.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - From: "BBS" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:40 AM
Subject: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant


Hi all. I was doing a search for Siri-like apps again to see if there 
was anything new out there and I came across this one. It's called 
Speaktoid Assistant. It's very similar to the Voice Answer assistant but 
there are features that are in this app that I wish Voice Answer had. 
For example, when sending a text to your contacts, instead of you 
pressing the send button, the assistant would ask you if this is the 
text you want to send and you just reply yes or no to it. You can also 
send email with it but I've never tried that yet and reluctant to do so 
because from personal experiences, other dictation apps would mess it 
up. Anyway, as of this writing, the app is free for a limited time. For 
a more indepth description go to 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/speaktoit-assistant/id491854246. Enjoy!


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Re: New facebook app problem with liking and sharing status nessages!

[SoonerAnnie]

I appreciate all those who continue to faithfully check out the updates 
because ever since they became so unfriendly to VO I have avoided them like 
the plague! Fortunately someone on the list shared with me the steps to take 
to downgrade to a usable version. How can they mess things up so badly?!? 
Grrr!

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:24 AM
Subject: New facebook app problem with liking and sharing status nessages!


Hi all, I am facing problem with new Facebook app in liking and
sharing status messages. Is anyone successful in in liking and sharing
status messages? Very unfortunate that Facebook is breaking
accessibility in each update. The previous bug where text field while
posting status messages is broken and now this.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Question.

[Nimit Kaur]

But will the voiceover setting still be on setting, general,
accessibility, and voiceover?  Will we still be able to turn on VO
connecting to ITUNES on our PC using Jaws?  Thanks!


On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
> That won't happen. What may happen, if Samsung is successful, is
> triple-click home will be disabled so you would not be able to turn VO on
> and off independently.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 24/02/2013, at 10:52, "anita"  wrote:
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>> Hi List,
>> If the unthinkable happens, in that IOS products aren't accessible to
>> us, then what to do next? Going back to MobileSpeak isn't anything I want
>> to do!
>> Anita
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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Jenifer Barr]

If this actually is happening, but will happen. Will voice over go away?

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Its a BBC article.  You can find it here.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21552733
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
>> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion write?
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
 Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
 Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List 
 
 Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact they've
 even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
 And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog school
 in Korea.
 Unconscionable.
 Alice
 Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo Kelion
 
 Technology reporter
 
 The VoiceOver function is designed to help
 blind and partially sighted consumers use the
 iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
 effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
 making its software accessible to blind people.
 
 The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
 a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
 screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
 
 However, the judge has ordered the case to be
 suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's claim.
 
 Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
 
 Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
 partially-sighted people to hear a description of
 what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
 
 The software covers text and icons including
 audio descriptions of the battery level and
 network signal. It also allows the phones to be
 operated via Braille-based add-ons.
 
 Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to
 licence a patent it owned which describes
 pressing a button to make a handset describe its
 display. The basis for this was that VoiceOver
 could be switched on by triple-clicking the iPhone's home button.
 
 Apple declined to comment.
 
 A statement from Samsung said: "For decades, we
 have heavily invested in pioneering the
 development of technological innovations in the
 mobile industry, which have been constantly reflected in our products.
 
 "We continue to believe that Apple has infringed
 our patented mobile technologies, and we will
 continue to take the measures necessary to
 protect our intellectual property rights."
 
 'Regrettable in the extreme'
 
 Patent consultant Florian Muller, who was first
 to report the Mannheim Court's decision, questioned Samsung's tactics.
 
 "If Samsung had only requested monetary
 compensation in this action, it would have made a
 much better choice than by trying to achieve,
 through the pursuit of an injunction, the
 deactivation or (more realistically) degradation
 of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to
 its German customers," he wrote on his blog.
 
 The British Computer Association of the Blind
 said it was worried such an important feature might be threatened.
 
 "A lack of access to information is arguably the
 biggest potential barrier to inclusion in society
 for blind and partially-sighted people," a spokesman told the BBC.
 
 "If something as important as access to telephone
 technology had been blocked by the actions of one
 company over another the consequences for blind
 people everywhere would be regrettable in the extreme."
 
 The Wall Street Journal's AllThingsD tech site was more damning.
 
 "Leaving aside the ethics of asserting a patent
 against a feature designed to help the blind,
 this is unwise," wrote John Paczkowski.
 
 "It's the PR equivalent of punching yourself in
 the face. Samsung has now identified itself as a
 company willing to accept the loss of
 accessibility for the vision-impaired as
 collateral damage in its battle with Apple."
 
 Apple and Samsung have fought a number of patent
 cases against each other in courts across the world.
 
 The biggest award involved a US jury ordering
 Samsung to pay Apple $1.05bn (£688m) in damages.
 The judge in the case later rejected Apple's call
 for the sum to be increased and a sales ban on some Samsung handsets.
 
 
 
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Re: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant

[Lisa Soulor]

I have an Ipod Touch 5 and installed this app. It works if I use the
text box and answers with voice, but I have the same problem as Wren
when I try to use the microphone. I've uninstalled and reinstalled,
too. It seems like a nice little app, just wish I could figure it out.
In Christ,
Lisa

On 2/23/13, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My phone carrier is ATT-T. I installed this app a couple of days ago and it
> is working just fine. May be uninstalling it and doing a fresh install will
> fix the problem. I had fun using it last night. Good luck.
>
> Eileen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I got this up, but I was told that I am not authorized to use the
>> service and to contact my provider. My provider is AT&T Just thought you
>> all might want to know. God bless Wren
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:58 AM, "Fred Olver"  wrote:
>>
>>> It apparently is not available here in the states.
>>>
>>> Fred Olver
>>> - Original Message - From: "BBS" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:40 AM
>>> Subject: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant
>>>
>>>
 Hi all. I was doing a search for Siri-like apps again to see if there
 was anything new out there and I came across this one. It's called
 Speaktoid Assistant. It's very similar to the Voice Answer assistant but
 there are features that are in this app that I wish Voice Answer had.
 For example, when sending a text to your contacts, instead of you
 pressing the send button, the assistant would ask you if this is the
 text you want to send and you just reply yes or no to it. You can also
 send email with it but I've never tried that yet and reluctant to do so
 because from personal experiences, other dictation apps would mess it
 up. Anyway, as of this writing, the app is free for a limited time. For
 a more indepth description go to
 https://itunes.apple.com/app/speaktoit-assistant/id491854246. Enjoy!

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Re: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant

[Alan Paganelli]

I tried using this app last night.  I asked it, "Who won the game in Super 
Bowl 20 and what was the final score and stats?  I thought that 'autta mess 
her up.  No such luck.  It took her awhile but she compiled a list of the 
requested information and read it to me.  Unfortunately, that was the only 
thing she got right.  I said send a text message.  She asked for permission 
to search my contacts.  I gave it.  She repeated who would you like to text. 
I gave her the name.  The name I gave her sounds one way but is spelled 
another and I knew she might have trouble with it.  She not only had trouble 
with it but the app got hung up and started mentioning again who would you 
like to text and just kept hammering away at the same question.  In the 
bottom lower right hand corner of the screen the second button up is the 
cancel button although it is not labeled.  It took over 5 minutes before the 
cancel was completed.  She kept offering me more possible names and they 
kept getting farther and farther away from the correct one.  In my opinion, 
the app was more trouble then it's worth.  The person in question has a very 
common name.  I'll use John here although that's not his name.  I would 
think that she would have offered me all the possible choices based on the 
first name but as I said, the choices got wilder and wilder.  Although I 
only have an iPhone 4, I have heard other people use siri with amazing 
results and they didn't have that much trouble with sending a simple text 
message.  The app is worth what I paid for it which was nothing.  I do not 
believe this app is any match for siri.
- Original Message - 
From: "Eileens Misrahi" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant


Hello,

My phone carrier is ATT-T. I installed this app a couple of days ago and it 
is working just fine. May be uninstalling it and doing a fresh install will 
fix the problem. I had fun using it last night. Good luck.


Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:24 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:

Hi all, I got this up, but I was told that I am not authorized to use the 
service and to contact my provider. My provider is AT&T Just thought you 
all might want to know. God bless Wren


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:58 AM, "Fred Olver"  wrote:


It apparently is not available here in the states.

Fred Olver
- Original Message - From: "BBS" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:40 AM
Subject: Free App For A Limited Time: Speaktoid Assistant


Hi all. I was doing a search for Siri-like apps again to see if there 
was anything new out there and I came across this one. It's called 
Speaktoid Assistant. It's very similar to the Voice Answer assistant but 
there are features that are in this app that I wish Voice Answer had. 
For example, when sending a text to your contacts, instead of you 
pressing the send button, the assistant would ask you if this is the 
text you want to send and you just reply yes or no to it. You can also 
send email with it but I've never tried that yet and reluctant to do so 
because from personal experiences, other dictation apps would mess it 
up. Anyway, as of this writing, the app is free for a limited time. For 
a more indepth description go to 
https://itunes.apple.com/app/speaktoit-assistant/id491854246. Enjoy!


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Re: iphone repeat of events possible?

[Karen Hughes]

i have a class to start March 11 which is a Monday morning at 9 am, this 
will last for six weeks. is there any way i can enter this to my 
appointments in my Apple five I phone and do it at one time instead of six 
times. thanks, karen


- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Dean" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:53 PM
Subject: rE why iPhone?




Hi, is their something about the iPhone that you do not like? The 
accessibility of apple products does not need to get better... It is 
already the best on the market.
There is also many more apps available for iphones and who knows how many 
of the android apps are accessible.
And since you already have other apple devices and are syncing with iTunes 
why switch now.
Don't forget there will be a whole new learning curve with a new operating 
system.






Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.

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Re: Wireless printers

[sahil cena]

i think hp 4625 printer is better. it is all in one colour ink jet
printer. its cost is near about rs 9,000. but if you want black and
white laser printer then hp mf1213 may be better.

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RE: iPhone 5 Setting to Turn Off Caller Identification and Time Elapsed During a Call

[Alan Lemly]

I figured out what I did to cause my iPhone 5 to speak the caller's name
when talking with someone using my earpods. I changed a setting in VoiceOver
to turn on Speak Notifications in Locked Screen. Since the calls where I was
having the problem were taken while walking with my phone in locked mode,
the phone was notifying me of the caller's name based on that setting. I
know better than to change the default setting which is off for this item
but as I say, live and learn.

 

To get to this setting, select Settings, General, Accessibility, VoiceOver,
and it is the last setting in that section.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:16 PM
To: VIPhone Email List (viphone@googlegroups.com)
Subject: iPhone 5 Setting to Turn Off Caller Identification and Time Elapsed
During a Call

 

I hope someone can help me turn off this setting. When I receive or make a
call with my iPhone 5 and I'm using the earpod headset that came with the
phone, I get an announcement identifying the caller's name and time elapsed
every few seconds during the call. This is very annoying and I can't believe
it would be a default setting. I've scoured the various sections of the
Settings app but I can't for the life of me figure out how to turn this off.

 

Any help in directing me would be greatly appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: [BlindGeekZone] Another app to type braille in the IPOD/IPHONE/Ipad!

[Nimit Kaur]

Hi all!

The person who asked what to type in the app store, you can type:
B R A I L L I S T.  You can hit search after that.  I am just trying
it out and will write my opinion afterwords.  Thanks


On 2/23/13, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>
> High, Nimit,
> Thanks for your e-mail about Braillist.  I tried it out along with Braille
> Touch.  I must say, after just an hour or so of trying them both, that I
> really prefer braille Touch.  While I wish BT supported contractions, the
> fact is that Bt is simply more responsive.  I ended up buying the upgrade of
> BT.  I'll continue using both and observe the progress made=by both apps.
>
> Thanks again,
> Kevin
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Nimit Kaur  wrote:
>
>> Hello Everybody,
>>
>> I was browsing applevis site and I was just seeing the apps made
>> specifically for blind people. I found another app that you can type
>> braille with in the IDevice that you own. It's called, "Braillist"
>> and I wanted to give you guys the link so that you can check it out.
>> Here it is:
>>
>> Braillist | AppleVis
>>
>> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/braillist
>>
>> I am giving it to the appropriate lists I am subscribing that can
>> accept it. Iave any of you people used it? Is it good?  The
>> orientation is the same as Braille Touch, they also expect you to hold
>> it in landscape mode. You can read further about it on the link I
>> provided you. Thanks!
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Re: question about playing sixthsence and demenchens the game and is the applevis sight down?

[Nimit Kaur]

Hi Mitch,

I can't answer your questions about the games because I never played
them, but the applevis site is working fine in my computer.  There are
some warning things in the beginning of the site but it doesn't effect
the use of the site.  You can still use it.  Thanks!  I am sorry I
don't know anything about the game and is curious myself.


On 2/23/13, Mich  wrote:
> Hi all. I just downloaded 2 apps and I am wondering how to get started
> playing them? the first is sixthsence. it is that zomby game for the iphone
> 4s. I have gotten to the part that says you can skip this by pressing tab.
> does this meen that you need to hook your iphone up to a pc to play this
> game? and the second game I just got was demenchens the game. I know that
> there was some podcasts dun on this game in the past. I am wondering if some
> one can give me some pointers on how to play? and my third questiion is is
> the applevis sight down? since i go to the home page and it gives this
> worning msg about cash and a buntch of stuff that makes me think that the
> sight is down. many thanks for any help that any one can give me with this.
> from Mich.
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Answer to a question about Apple this.com

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello I went on Zello and I asked on the Apple this channel and they said that 
the website was working fine is not down.

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ot apple tv assistance

[John Kolwick]

  Hello, I would like to know if there is a quick way of turning voiceover 
on or off from the Apple TV Remote?  Thanks in advance for any assistance.

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Re: Hello moderator,

[Nimit Kaur]

Hello!!

The moderator email is:

You can contact him by that way.  I just happened to find it so I
wanted to pass it on to you since it will help you.  Thanks!

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> I would like to change my ViPhone email address, but I can not find how to
> do this. Please contact me. Thanks.
>
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Re: Question about FAceTime

[RobH!]

They're unrelated.  Facetime is vidieo communication, nothing to do with 
Facebook.

YOur phone number or email address you use for your apple id is what someone 
else would use to call you.  You need to switch it on in settings somewhere.
- Original Message - 
From: "Dani L Pagador" 
To: "'iPhone for visually impaired'" 
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:37 AM
Subject: Question about FAceTime


Hi, Everyone.

I've got an Apple ID and password. Can I use these to use FaceTime, or do I
need to actually open a FaceBook account?

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: Printing on papers with iphone

[RobH!]

Not sure how you're going to print to paper without a printer.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ramy Moustafa" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:52 PM
Subject: Printing on papers with iphone


Hi all:

I hate taking my laptop with me, just to print any papers that I will need
to print, so am asking if we can print any paper or pic that is on my I
phone into papers? What thing must I buy to perform this?
I need to do this on the go not at my home, so no wireless printer or
something like that.

Thanks in advance.
Cheers:
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Question about FAceTime

[Dani L Pagador]

Hi, Everyone.

I've got an Apple ID and password. Can I use these to use FaceTime, or do I
need to actually open a FaceBook account?

Thanks,

Dani

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Re: updates not installing

[Andy Baracco]

Didn't work for me, so I deleted and reinstalled the app.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:39 PM
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Subject: Re: updates not installing

Thanks, David. Your advice to double tap the item which needed updating did 
the trick.


Mary

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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't think the fact that this was brought up in a German court should
be considered sneaky. I doubt very much Samsung chose to bring this
patent up in a German court just to avoid the scrutiny of blind
consumers in the US. This may be unique to a German or European patent.
It's also part of a larger patent battle between Samsung and Apple being
waged in Europe and the US. Furthermore, Apple and Samsung sell quite a
few smart phones in Europe,and there are quite a few blind people in
Europe as well.

On 23/02/13 01:29, Frank Ventura wrote:
> Wow, if I am reading this correctly Samsung's claim is that  tripple
> clicking a button to turn VO on or off violates its patents. So they're
> saying that pressing a button to turn on a feature is patented? Now
> that's kind of broad isn't it? Of course, there is so much more at stake
> here. Apple has accessibility onboard to maintain educational and
> government contracts. Take that away from them and you can really drive
> a stake through Apple's heart. And, doing it in a German court, largely
> off of the radar screen of most US consumers is really pretty sneaky.
> 
> Frank Ventura
> Email: frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
> 
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> 
> *Sent from my Mac Book Air*
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 1:55 AM, David Chittenden  > wrote:
> 
>>
>>> *Subject:* *VoiceOver threatened by Samsung*
>>> *Reply-To:* Blind Democracy Discussion List
>>> mailto:blind-democr...@octothorp.org>>
>>>
>>> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
>>> they've even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product. 
>>> And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
>>> school in Korea. 
>>> Unconscionable. 
>>> Alice 
>>> Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo Kelion
>>>
>>> Technology reporter
>>>
>>>   The VoiceOver function is designed to help 
>>> blind and partially sighted consumers use the 
>>> iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its 
>>> effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function 
>>> making its software accessible to blind people.
>>>
>>> The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in 
>>> a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver 
>>> screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
>>>
>>> However, the judge has ordered the case to be 
>>> suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's claim.
>>>
>>> Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
>>>
>>> Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and 
>>> partially-sighted people to hear a description of 
>>> what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
>>>
>>> The software covers text and icons including 
>>> audio descriptions of the battery level and 
>>> network signal. It also allows the phones to be 
>>> operated via Braille-based add-ons.
>>>
>>> Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to 
>>> licence a patent it owned which describes 
>>> pressing a button to make a handset describe its 
>>> display. The basis for this was that VoiceOver 
>>> could be switched on by triple-clicking the iPhone's home button.
>>>
>>> Apple declined to comment.
>>>
>>> A statement from Samsung said: "For decades, we 
>>> have heavily invested in pioneering the 
>>> development of technological innovations in the 
>>> mobile industry, which have been constantly reflected in our products.
>>>
>>> "We continue to believe that Apple has infringed 
>>> our patented mobile technologies, and we will 
>>> continue to take the measures necessary to 
>>> protect our intellectual property rights."
>>>
>>> 'Regrettable in the extreme'
>>>
>>> Patent consultant Florian Muller, who was first 
>>> to report the Mannheim Court's decision, questioned Samsung's tactics.
>>>
>>> "If Samsung had only requested monetary 
>>> compensation in this action, it would have made a 
>>> much better choice than by trying to achieve, 
>>> through the pursuit of an injunction, the 
>>> deactivation or (more realistically) degradation 
>>> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to 
>>> its German customers," he wrote on his blog.
>>>
>>> The British Computer Association of the Blind 
>>> said it was worried such an important feature might be threatened.
>>>
>>> "A lack of access to information is arguably the 
>>> biggest potential barrier to inclusion in society 
>>> for blind and partially-sighted people," a spokesman told the BBC.
>>>
>>> "If something as important as access to telephone 
>>> technology had been blocked by the actions of one 
>>> company over another the consequences for blind 
>>> people everywhere would be regrettable in the extreme."
>>>
>>> The Wall Street Journal's AllThingsD tech site was more damning.
>>>
>>> "Leaving aside the ethics of asserting a patent 
>>> against a feature designed to help the blind, 
>>> this is unwise," wrote John Paczkowski.
>>>
>

Future accessibility of IOS [was "Re: Question."]

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure what you're referring to, and your subject line doesn't
help at all, but I wouldn't worry about this too much. I doubt Apple
would take such an about face with respect to accessibility. It would be
a PR nightmare for them, would be counter to what they've demonstrated
the last four years or so and could start impacting their government and
educational sales. If Apple were to put out an iPhone that had an issue
with accessibility, older iPhones would still work until the blindness
community could respond and the situation was resolved. there are also
other smart phone options, such as Android phones running version 2.3 of
Android and beyond.

On 23/02/13 15:52, anita wrote:
> Hi List,
> If the unthinkable happens, in that IOS products aren't accessible
> to us, then what to do next? Going back to MobileSpeak isn't anything I
> want to do!
> Anita


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Re: updates not installing

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Thanks, David. Your advice to double tap the item which needed updating did the 
trick.

Mary

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Re: Changing email address {was "Re: Hello moderator,"]

[Charles Dean]

Thanks everybody Raul  has sent me an email and giving me instructions.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 

On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> There's no reason you can't send such a request directly to the
> moderators, especially since Raul just posted that he's travelling and
> list requests should go to him directly. BTW, I copied him on this message.
> 
> Whenever I've had to do this in the past,I just subscribe with my new
> email address and then unsubscribe with my old email address.
> 
> 
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> On 23/02/13 20:39, Chuck Dean wrote:
>> I would like to change my ViPhone email address, but I can not find how to 
>> do this. Please contact me. Thanks. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Changing email address {was "Re: Hello moderator,"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

There's no reason you can't send such a request directly to the
moderators, especially since Raul just posted that he's travelling and
list requests should go to him directly. BTW, I copied him on this message.

Whenever I've had to do this in the past,I just subscribe with my new
email address and then unsubscribe with my old email address.



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> I would like to change my ViPhone email address, but I can not find how to do 
> this. Please contact me. Thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 
> 

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Re: RE FREE App for a limited time: Speaktoid Assistant

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure what the features are in this app, and someone pruned the
original email in this thread, but SIRI only works on iPhone 4S and 5's,
so this app may be useful on an iPhone 4 or earlier. Plus, just as the
built in Notes app doesn't meet everyone's needs, I could imagine that
an app may have some features not included in SIRI. Maybe someone
familiar with this app can enlighten us on what they may be.

On 23/02/13 18:11, DJ wrote:
> I don't mean this to sound negative but, may I ask, what is the real
> advantage to having this app on my phone when VO does such a fine job? 
> Maybe I'm missing something here.
>  
> DJ
>  
> 
> 
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Fred Olver
> *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2013 12:06 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: RE FREE App for a limited time: Speaktoid Assistant
> 
> I was able to find it, however it is spelled S p e a k space  t o space i t
>  
> Fred Olver
> 
> - Original Message -
> *From:* MamaPeach 
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2013 5:43 AM
> *Subject:* RE FREE App for a limited time: Speaktoid Assistant
> 
> Nevermind, I found it by just putting in assistant. It was the first
> result.

-- 
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Re: updates not installing

[Andy Baracco]

This also happens to me with one app.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: updates not installing

I did an update on a bunch of apps on my 4S last evening. I got an alert 
saying that some apps couldn't be installed and try again later. Turns out 
there were 3 of them, Audible, twitter and tweetlist. Today, I have 
successfully installed 2 more updates that appeared, but the 3 from 
yesterday still have the "installing" note dimmed. No update, no open, just 
a dimmed "install". I have restarted the phone. I have taken app store out 
of my app switcher and relaunched it, all to no avail. Any ideas out there 
in app installation land?


Mary

Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com


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Fwd: Completing surveys using Voice-over

[Kirsten Edmondson]

Dear all, 
I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but it is starting to bug me, 
so below is the email I sent to Apple Accessibility. 

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kirsten Edmondson 
> Subject: Completing surveys using Voice-over
> Date: 24 February 2013 04:02:35 GMT
> To: accessibil...@apple.com
> Cc: Kirsten Edmondson 
> 
> Dear Apple, 
> I am writing as I have noticed the below problem on several occasions over 
> the past few months. 
> I'm sure you are familiar with the situation where you are emailed a link and 
> asked to complete a survey? For example, when having gone to the Apple store 
> for example. I access my emails-usually-on my IPhone 4S and so I double-tap 
> on the link to the survey (as I am a voice-over user). The page always loads 
> fine. Say, for example that is the Apple own one, or any made by Survey 
> Monkey-if you are familiar with that site-as that is where a lot of them come 
> from. 
> You double-tap on start or the equivalent. The questions which come up in 
> front of you are multiple choice and need checkboxes ticking in order to 
> choose one or various responses as appropriate. This should not be a problem, 
> as reading checkboxes and then double-tapping on them to tick is easy. 
> However, There are often three problems which now occur which prevent 
> proper/complete filling in of such surveys. 
> 1. The line of the question is often repeated where the first checkbox is 
> found. 
> 2. No checkbox for ticking is identified by Voice-over 
> and 3. Thus, there is no way to tick at least one of the boxes. This means, 
> that if the answer you want to choose is the first one, you are unable to 
> tick it. It's not as if the boxes are totally out of line with the parts of 
> the question, as otherwise they would hang over the end of the question and 
> it would be doable to work out which box belongs where. 
> Say for example the the question is asking to select your gender, if Female 
> is first and then Male and then Rather Not Say, the only ones available to 
> check would be Male and Rather Not Say. This is alright if you are not Female 
> ... :) But often surveys prevent you from moving on if you have not chosen an 
> answer-and thus you cannot do the survey. 
> I write today because I have found the same problem with a survey I was sent 
> from Apple, so I thought it was time to make you aware of this situation. 
> This particular survey was one of the ones you send out after someone has 
> shopped in an Apple Store, to see how they found the service. I found that I 
> could complete most of it, but as I got to the end, I had to choose one of 
> two options, neither of these appeared as a checkbox, thus when I 
> double-tapped on them, nothing happened. Therefore, when I pressed next I was 
> told I had not filled in a required section. This means I cannot complete the 
> survey. 
> I will have to do it on my Mac, as when a survey does not work on Safari on 
> the IPhone, I end up logging onto my MBP or my Windows PC to complete the 
> survey successfully. 
> I used to think that this was a problem with the makers of surveys, that they 
> had not made them accessible enough. This may well be the case, but I wanted 
> to alert you, in case there is something you can do with the IPhone, Safari 
> and Voice-over to make them read them correctly-as that seems to be where the 
> problems reside. 
> Kind regards, and thanks for looking into this. 
> Kirsten Edmondson
> kirsten.edmond...@btinternet.com
> 07867978791
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Hello moderator,

[Fred Olver]

Chuck,

To accomplish this task, where you see unsubscribe in the following link, 
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Hope this helps you.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Dean" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:39 PM
Subject: Hello moderator,


I would like to change my ViPhone email address, but I can not find how to 
do this. Please contact me. Thanks.







Chuck (mobile)
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Voice Dream and Airplay

[Richard Turner]

If you play music over airplay, then switch to Voice Dream, it will play over 
airplay.
HTH,



Typed with BrailleTouch


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

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Hello moderator,

[Chuck Dean]

I would like to change my ViPhone email address, but I can not find how to do 
this. Please contact me. Thanks. 






Chuck (mobile)
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Help

[Blind Treasures]

OK, here's the issue I'm hoping someone can help with. My wife has just
purchased a IPad mini for use at work. She is going to use it for employee
time logging and maybe as a cash register.  She has found a couple apps that
will work for these very well.
The problem is she just doesn't want to lay the IPad on a counter for
someone to walk off with including her employees. LOL 
Does anyone know of a device, kind of like they have in banks for there
credit card machines that will secure the mini down so nobody can walk off
with it?
Also is there a way that the employees can be limited to only access to
certain apps on the mini?
If anyone has any suggestions in these areas it would be greatly
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RE: Perplexing problem with Siri on Jailbroken iPhone 5

[Scott Van Gorp]

Ok, I have restored the phone, set up the jb again, and even taken my
network offline to see if I can duplicate the problem again.  So far so
good.  We'll see what happens when I leave for work on Monday!

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Van Gorp
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Perplexing problem with Siri on Jailbroken iPhone 5

 

Well, I guess it's time to rebuild it again and go tweak by tweak.  The only
thing I've done is the two tweaks I mentioned and the Star Trek Voyager
theme.  Hmmm.

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Victor Hugo Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Perplexing problem with Siri on Jailbroken iPhone 5

 

Hello, sounds to me like you have a tweet that is causing this problem, I am
Joe broken on iOS 6.1.2, and I can tell Siri to launch apps with no problem.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Scott Van Gorp  wrote:

Good evening List:

 

As the subject says, I'm having an issue on my jailbroken iPhone 5 now
running iOS 6.1.2.  The problem started a couple of days ago when I was
still running 6.1.1, I noticed that siri was not opening apps when I would
tell it to.  She just kept saying "I don't see you have an app named
facebook" for example, when I do.  No matter what app I would try to launch,
it wouldn't happen.  Anyway, I went to iTunes 11 to do a restore, and it was
going to upgrade the iOS, which is fine since I saw there was an update to
the jb.  Everything went fine this morning, but when I went to work, the
problem started again.  I first thought it had something to do with LTE vs.
WiFi, so I didn't worry about it until I got home.  Now I've turned siri
off, restarted the phone, and turned it back on with no success.  Any ideas
on what is causing this odd behavior?  It was working fine as late as
Wednesday on the old configuration, and the only thing I changed in the jb
since then was adding software update killer and reset all killer.  Any help
would be appreciated.  I would restore it again, but I'm afraid I'd have the
same problem once I'm away from home.  Thanks for any and all suggestions.

 

Cordially:

 

Scott Van Gorp

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Warning of Bugs in WordLadder

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Folks,

As I introduced WordLadder to the list, I've just discovered something that I 
think people should be warned about if they're going to pay out the money for 
the various game packs.

First though, I want to mention a bug regarding the free daily puzzle.

As many of you may have noticed if you went into the game and played the daily 
puzzle for today, there were the usual dates there, however, the most recent 
date was February 22, which was yesterday's date.  The Problem is, if you look 
at the first two cells of the date range, you'll notice two dates there for 
June and July.  This happens occasionally, but you don't have to worry, as the 
daily puzzle for the date are in those two dates, just in case you haven't been 
able to find the daily puzzle for today.  As I said, this occasionally happens, 
but I've notified Sporcle about this bug, and they're working on it.

Speaking of bugs, this brings me for the main issue.

If you're thinking of purchasing any of the game packs, or purchasing the all 
game packs option for the 4.99 USD which includes over 500 game puzzles, please 
be careful, as some of the 500 puzzles are not accessible at this time using 
Voiceover.

The way it works is that in Game Pack I, you'll find puzzles 11 through 29, and 
in Game Pack II, you find game puzzles 61 through 80.  Presumably, there should 
be puzzles 21 through 59 in Game Pack I, however, they're no where to be found, 
and, down below, where you would find the page 1 of 1 icon, you'll now find 
page 1 of 3. 

Naturally, one would assume that those missing puzzles are on pages 2 and 3, 
but alas, pages 2 and 3 are not reachable using Voiceover.

Don't get me wrong, should you purchase the all games packs for the 4.99 USD, 
you'll get plenty of puzzles, but you'll be short changed, and, assuming that 
each game pack  is missing in excess of 30 puzzles, then there are over 300 
puzzles missing from their advertised 500 puzzles.

I have contacted Sporcle about this, and am in an e-mail exchange with a woman 
named Rachel who seems interested in resolving this problem for us, but I'm 
still waiting for word on my last e-mail.

I' not saying that you shouldn't purchase the game packs, which ever one that 
may be, but I just thought I should warn you in case you do decide to purchase 
the over 500 game packs selection, and somewhere along the line you only count 
100 or so of the puzzles.

Naturally, I'll keep everyone posted as to if and when Sporcle resolves this 
bug/issue, so if you want to wait until then, feel free.

Sorry about not warning everyone earlier, but I just found out about this now.

Victor Gouveia
Vice-President
Training Coordinator
VIP Tech
Tel: 1-(888)-737-1115
Fax: 1-(888)-737-1116
vipt...@rogers.com
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Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities

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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I doubt it very much.  They would just be duplicating the efforts of Talkback 
already found in Android.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Feb 23, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Philip S  wrote:

> Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
> some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
> Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
> Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
> accessibility project?
> 
> 
> On 2/23/13, Aman Singer  wrote:
>> Hi.
>> The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
>> originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
>> the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
>> action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
>> federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
>> from reading the patent
>> (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
>> seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
>> which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
>> German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
>> already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
>> eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
>> narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
>> online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
>> The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
>> http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
>> and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
>> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
>> The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
>> his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
>> when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
>> his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
>> surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
>> infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
>> if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
>> arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
>> which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
>> Aman
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>>> The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
>>> However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
>>> picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
>>> are
>>> legitimate.
>>> 
>>> Bob Fenton
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you
 do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:
 
> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
> write?
> 
> Craig
> 
> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>>> Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
>>> Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
>>> they've
>>> even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
>>> And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
>>> school
>>> in Korea.
>>> Unconscionable.
>>> Alice
>>> Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
>>> Kelion
>>> 
>>> Technology reporter
>>> 
>>> The VoiceOver function is designed to help
>>> blind and partially sighted consumers use the
>>> iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
>>> effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
>>> making its software accessible to blind people.
>>> 
>>> The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
>>> a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
>>> screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
>>> 
>>> However, the judge has ordered the case to be
>>> suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's
>>> claim.
>>> 
>>> Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
>>> 
>>> Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
>>> partially-sighted people to hear a description of
>>> what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
>>>

RE: updates not installing

[Tony]

I've had this twice and both times it was resolved after an IOS update.

Tony
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: updates not installing

I did an update on a bunch of apps on my 4S last evening. I got an alert
saying that some apps couldn't be installed and try again later. Turns out
there were 3 of them, Audible, twitter and tweetlist. Today, I have
successfully installed 2 more updates that appeared, but the 3 from
yesterday still have the "installing" note dimmed. No update, no open, just
a dimmed "install". I have restarted the phone. I have taken app store out
of my app switcher and relaunched it, all to no avail. Any ideas out there
in app installation land?

Mary

Mary Otten
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Re: updates not installing

[David Chittenden]

Go to each app on the home screen and double tap it. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2013, at 13:34, Mary Otten  wrote:

> I did an update on a bunch of apps on my 4S last evening. I got an alert 
> saying that some apps couldn't be installed and try again later. Turns out 
> there were 3 of them, Audible, twitter and tweetlist. Today, I have 
> successfully installed 2 more updates that appeared, but the 3 from yesterday 
> still have the "installing" note dimmed. No update, no open, just a dimmed 
> "install". I have restarted the phone. I have taken app store out of my app 
> switcher and relaunched it, all to no avail. Any ideas out there in app 
> installation land?
> 
> Mary
> 
> Mary Otten
> motte...@gmail.com
> 
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updates not installing

[Mary Otten]

I did an update on a bunch of apps on my 4S last evening. I got an alert saying 
that some apps couldn't be installed and try again later. Turns out there were 
3 of them, Audible, twitter and tweetlist. Today, I have successfully installed 
2 more updates that appeared, but the 3 from yesterday still have the 
"installing" note dimmed. No update, no open, just a dimmed "install". I have 
restarted the phone. I have taken app store out of my app switcher and 
relaunched it, all to no avail. Any ideas out there in app installation land?

Mary

Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com


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RE: Perplexing problem with Siri on Jailbroken iPhone 5

[Scott Van Gorp]

Well, I guess it's time to rebuild it again and go tweak by tweak.  The only
thing I've done is the two tweaks I mentioned and the Star Trek Voyager
theme.  Hmmm.

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Victor Hugo Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Perplexing problem with Siri on Jailbroken iPhone 5

 

Hello, sounds to me like you have a tweet that is causing this problem, I am
Joe broken on iOS 6.1.2, and I can tell Siri to launch apps with no problem.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Scott Van Gorp  wrote:

Good evening List:

 

As the subject says, I'm having an issue on my jailbroken iPhone 5 now
running iOS 6.1.2.  The problem started a couple of days ago when I was
still running 6.1.1, I noticed that siri was not opening apps when I would
tell it to.  She just kept saying "I don't see you have an app named
facebook" for example, when I do.  No matter what app I would try to launch,
it wouldn't happen.  Anyway, I went to iTunes 11 to do a restore, and it was
going to upgrade the iOS, which is fine since I saw there was an update to
the jb.  Everything went fine this morning, but when I went to work, the
problem started again.  I first thought it had something to do with LTE vs.
WiFi, so I didn't worry about it until I got home.  Now I've turned siri
off, restarted the phone, and turned it back on with no success.  Any ideas
on what is causing this odd behavior?  It was working fine as late as
Wednesday on the old configuration, and the only thing I changed in the jb
since then was adding software update killer and reset all killer.  Any help
would be appreciated.  I would restore it again, but I'm afraid I'd have the
same problem once I'm away from home.  Thanks for any and all suggestions.

 

Cordially:

 

Scott Van Gorp

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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Pablo Morales]

Just we have to see how the blind life of blind people is in south corea, 
and how is in the countries at the west. Like this, we can see how important 
is for samgsum their interest in the blind people.



- Original Message - 
From: "Aman Singer" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung


Hi.
I would be stunned if they had any interest in the blind/visually
impaired market, that market is so close to nonexistence as to make
little difference. Samsung has just been throwing all their patents at
Apple and seeing what sticks. Apple has been doing the same. It's a
shame people can't make new products rather than abusing the patent
system by filing patents which try to swallow the hole world and
forcing the courts to make them throw up.
Aman

On 2/23/13, Philip S  wrote:

Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
accessibility project?


On 2/23/13, Aman Singer  wrote:

Hi.
The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
from reading the patent
 (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
 seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
 which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
 German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
 already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
 eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
 narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
 online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
 The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
 and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
 The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
 his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
 when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
 his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
 surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
 infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
 if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
 arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
 which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
Aman




On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:

The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
are
legitimate.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden 
wrote:


I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if
you
do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:


David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
write?

Craig

On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:



Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List


Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
they've
even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
school
in Korea.
Unconscionable.
Alice
Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
Kelion

Technology reporter

The VoiceOver function is designed to help
blind and partially sighted consumers use the
iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
making its software accessible to blind people.

The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.

However, the judge has ordered the case to be
suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's
claim.

Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.

Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
partially-sighted people to hear a descriptio

Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Pablo Morales]

well, the last of talksback is better than the older versions of this 
software. It is not like voiceOver, even though It is avery dirty way to get 
blind customers. It could be possible, in the business world is possible 
everything.
In my opinion, compare voice Over with talks back is as compare a horse with 
a car. For a few things is better use a horse as transportation, but it is 
not very eficient.

P
- Original Message - 
From: "Philip S" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung


Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
accessibility project?


On 2/23/13, Aman Singer  wrote:

Hi.
The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
from reading the patent
 (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
 seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
 which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
 German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
 already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
 eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
 narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
 online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
 The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
 and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
 The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
 his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
 when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
 his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
 surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
 infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
 if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
 arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
 which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
Aman




On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:

The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
are
legitimate.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden 
wrote:


I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you
do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:


David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
write?

Craig

On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:



Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List


Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
they've
even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
school
in Korea.
Unconscionable.
Alice
Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
Kelion

Technology reporter

The VoiceOver function is designed to help
blind and partially sighted consumers use the
iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
making its software accessible to blind people.

The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.

However, the judge has ordered the case to be
suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's
claim.

Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.

Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
partially-sighted people to hear a description of
what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.

The software covers text and icons including
audio descriptions of the battery level and
network signal. It also allows the phones to be
operated via Braille-based add-ons.

Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to
licence a pa

Re: Perplexing problem with Siri on Jailbroken iPhone 5

[Victor Hugo Gallegos]

Hello, sounds to me like you have a tweet that is causing this problem, I am 
Joe broken on iOS 6.1.2, and I can tell Siri to launch apps with no problem.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Scott Van Gorp  wrote:

> Good evening List:
>  
> As the subject says, I’m having an issue on my jailbroken iPhone 5 now 
> running iOS 6.1.2.  The problem started a couple of days ago when I was still 
> running 6.1.1, I noticed that siri was not opening apps when I would tell it 
> to.  She just kept saying “I don’t see you have an app named facebook” for 
> example, when I do.  No matter what app I would try to launch, it wouldn’t 
> happen.  Anyway, I went to iTunes 11 to do a restore, and it was going to 
> upgrade the iOS, which is fine since I saw there was an update to the jb.  
> Everything went fine this morning, but when I went to work, the problem 
> started again.  I first thought it had something to do with LTE vs. WiFi, so 
> I didn’t worry about it until I got home.  Now I’ve turned siri off, 
> restarted the phone, and turned it back on with no success.  Any ideas on 
> what is causing this odd behavior?  It was working fine as late as Wednesday 
> on the old configuration, and the only thing I changed in the jb since then 
> was adding software update killer and reset all killer.  Any help would be 
> appreciated.  I would restore it again, but I’m afraid I’d have the same 
> problem once I’m away from home.  Thanks for any and all suggestions.
>  
> Cordially:
>  
> Scott Van Gorp
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Perplexing problem with Siri on Jailbroken iPhone 5

[Scott Van Gorp]

Good evening List:

 

As the subject says, I'm having an issue on my jailbroken iPhone 5 now
running iOS 6.1.2.  The problem started a couple of days ago when I was
still running 6.1.1, I noticed that siri was not opening apps when I would
tell it to.  She just kept saying "I don't see you have an app named
facebook" for example, when I do.  No matter what app I would try to launch,
it wouldn't happen.  Anyway, I went to iTunes 11 to do a restore, and it was
going to upgrade the iOS, which is fine since I saw there was an update to
the jb.  Everything went fine this morning, but when I went to work, the
problem started again.  I first thought it had something to do with LTE vs.
WiFi, so I didn't worry about it until I got home.  Now I've turned siri
off, restarted the phone, and turned it back on with no success.  Any ideas
on what is causing this odd behavior?  It was working fine as late as
Wednesday on the old configuration, and the only thing I changed in the jb
since then was adding software update killer and reset all killer.  Any help
would be appreciated.  I would restore it again, but I'm afraid I'd have the
same problem once I'm away from home.  Thanks for any and all suggestions.

 

Cordially:

 

Scott Van Gorp

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RE: RE FREE App for a limited time: Speaktoid Assistant

[DJ]

I don't mean this to sound negative but, may I ask, what is the real
advantage to having this app on my phone when VO does such a fine job?
Maybe I'm missing something here.
 
DJ
 


  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RE FREE App for a limited time: Speaktoid Assistant


I was able to find it, however it is spelled S p e a k space  t o space i t
 
Fred Olver

- Original Message - 
From: MamaPeach   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 5:43 AM
Subject: RE FREE App for a limited time: Speaktoid Assistant

Nevermind, I found it by just putting in assistant. It was the first result.
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6122 - Release Date: 02/21/13



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Re: question about playing sixthsence and demenchens the game and is the applevis sight down?

[Shannon Dyer]

Just double tap when it tells you that you can skip by pressing tab. then, it 
will move on to the next screen.

Hope this helps.

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On Feb 23, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Mich  wrote:

> Hi all. I just downloaded 2 apps and I am wondering how to get started 
> playing them? the first is sixthsence. it is that zomby game for the iphone 
> 4s. I have gotten to the part that says you can skip this by pressing tab. 
> does this meen that you need to hook your iphone up to a pc to play this 
> game? and the second game I just got was demenchens the game. I know that 
> there was some podcasts dun on this game in the past. I am wondering if some 
> one can give me some pointers on how to play? and my third questiion is is 
> the applevis sight down? since i go to the home page and it gives this 
> worning msg about cash and a buntch of stuff that makes me think that the 
> sight is down. many thanks for any help that any one can give me with this. 
> from Mich.
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Re: atbat app update

[matthew Dyer]

Yes.  I have the same problem.  Restarting the audio usually fixes it for the 
time being.  Not sure what else would work.

Matthew


On Feb 23, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Robert Fenton wrote:

> Hello everybody:
> 
> I believe I may have encountered a new bug but I am not sure. I am able to 
> replicate this both on an iPhone for S and an iPhone five. The problem is 
> this. When I start playing the audio in at bat, it plays fine for about 25 
> minutes or so and then stops playing. This happens when I remain in the app 
> and I'm doing nothing with my phone. Has anyone else encountered this 
> problem? If so, how have you worked around it? Thank you for your help.
> 
> Bob Fenton
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-02-23, at 12:27 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm chiming in a bit late, but Recardo says there's a bug if i sign up for 
>> MLB.TV premium on MLB.com, I won't be able to get the game day audio on my 
>> iOS devices? If this is true, then it makes that option extremely 
>> unattractive.
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2013, at 1:08 PM, "Richard Turner"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it worked fine for me at work yesterday using Win7 and IE 8.
>>>  
>>> Also, I’m streaming the Astros, Phillies game right now and I checked Email 
>>> on the phone, launched Safari without any problem.
>>> I used the app switcher to get out of the At Bat app and that kept the 
>>> stream going.
>>> If I hit the home button to get back to the home screen, it pauses the 
>>> audio.
>>> I think closing the game day audio screen first may also help prevent the 
>>> pausing.
>>>  
>>> This is on the iPhone 5.
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Fred Olver
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:04 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>>  
>>> I can confirm that after linking my at bat account to MLB that I can get 
>>> gameday audio on my PC.
>>>  
>>> Fred Olver
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Cheryl Homiak
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>>  
>>> Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio 
>>> automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!) 
>>> to pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and 
>>> then didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But 
>>> I haven't actually found anything on the website that says it only requires 
>>> one subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium 
>>> but not sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've 
>>> noticed in previous years that not all the information on the mlb website 
>>> always gets changed until the actual season starts.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>>  
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I 
>>> was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I 
>>> only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the 
>>> application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first 
>>> and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.
>>> 
>>> Bob Fenton
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
  
 I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for 
 the audio on mlb.com works only for the computer and not the iphone.  The 
 AtBat is paid through the appstore while the online audio is paid through 
 the web site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on your phone 
 you must pay both subscriptions. 
  
 This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect 
 of mlbtv on this.
  
 Ralph
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Sean Paul
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: atbat app update
 At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you 
 connect your MLB.com account with your Atbat app. If that's the way that I 
 understood how it is working this year. I've had both for the last couple 
 years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived games which I couldn't 
 get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking & understanding is correct & 
 I'll only have to pay once this year. - Original Message -
 From: Daniel Miller
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53
 Subject: Re: atbat app update
 Hello,
 You can pay the subscription at any time, since the seas

Getting started with Sixth Sense was Re: question about playing sixthsence and demenchens the game and is the applevis sight down?

[David Chittenden]

It is really good practice to place each category/app question or questions in 
separate emails. This makes it easier for people to answer, and with the 
extremely high volume of email on the list, many people delete messages they 
consider irrelevant via the subject line without ever reading them.

Just right flick with one finger to the continue button. A keyboard is not 
required, and will not work during game play.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2013, at 11:16, Mich  wrote:

> Hi all. I just downloaded 2 apps and I am wondering how to get started 
> playing them? the first is sixthsence. it is that zomby game for the iphone 
> 4s. I have gotten to the part that says you can skip this by pressing tab. 
> does this meen that you need to hook your iphone up to a pc to  play this 
> game? and the second game I just got was demenchens the game. I know that 
> there was some podcasts dun on this game in the past. I am wondering if some 
> one can give me some pointers on how to play? and my third questiion is is 
> the applevis sight down? since i go to the home page and it gives this 
> worning msg about cash and a buntch of stuff that makes me think that the 
> sight is down. many thanks for any help that any one can give me with this. 
> from Mich.
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Re: Re Justin TV, has anyone tried to broadcast with it?

[Kathy Brandt]

It carries different programs like Leo Laporte's live stream, the
truth channel, sports, and independent programs; there's a category
listing.  Another person mentioned two-finger double-tap?  Where??
There's no indication of where you'd do that to start recording a live
stream.  I wrote to them, but so far have gotten nothing aside from
their automatic response message.


On 2/19/13, Shane clark  wrote:
> Kathy, what is this Justin TV and how does it work?
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:13 PM, "Kathy Brandt"  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I can't figure out how to start recording.  It isn't under anything I've
>> looked at.  I can find channels and all.  Ustream was better re being able
>> to broadcast, apart from how you have to turn voiceover off in order not
>> to hear a constant blip.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Kathy.
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Question about 2 facebook apps

[Nicki Keck]

Hi all,

I am just not crazy about the FB app because of the way it handles links, so 
I have been using some other apps and I have a question about each of the 2 
I seem to like the most.


someone on this list had recommended EchoPhon FB, and I like it except for 
one very nasty thing.  it seems as though one cannot type in the app with 
either a bluetooth keyboard or a braille display.  is there some way around 
this?  I really hate to think I am limited in this app to typing only with 
the touch screen or copying and pasting with Fleksy.  kind of a pain to 
switch back and forth like that.  I think I should be able to use either the 
bluetooth keyboard or the braille display, or ideally, both.


now the other question I have is about the Facely HD app.  I really like 
this app except that it seems to jump sometimes.  When you flick right to 
another status, sometimes, it jumps back and you can't get to the next 
status without doing a lot of maneuvering.  any way around this?


I like voice book although I think it's clunky that, let's say you want to 
like something and then comment on it, you have to double tap on the status 
twice to do it.  Also, as of yet, you can't view notifications or anything 
in it, though I know, word is it's coming.  anyway, any help with any of 
these questions would be great.



have a blessed day,

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Re: Question.

[Teresa Cochran]

I really think folks are jumping the gun. For one thing, these decisions take 
*years* to implement. Most likely, folks will find a way to challenge any 
decisions that are made against accessibility. And once you have the cat out of 
the bag, it's way hard to stuff the poor thing back in. I don't think IOS will 
become inaccessible any time in the near future, if at all.

My few credits in whichever currency you choose, :)

Teresa
On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:03 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> That won't happen. What may happen, if Samsung is successful, is triple-click 
> home will be disabled so you would not be able to turn VO on and off 
> independently.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 24/02/2013, at 10:52, "anita"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi List,
>> If the unthinkable happens, in that IOS products aren't accessible to 
>> us, then what to do next? Going back to MobileSpeak isn't anything I want to 
>> do!
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Re: Question.

[Michael Feir]

I don't think that's an actual danger here. There's no way that the
whole concept of Voiceover could be removed by a compeeting company.
The idea of providing access is just too basic. However, I am a bit
worried that something like the trippleclick home command to turn on
and off accessibility features could be removed. That in itself would
be horrid enough.

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> That won't happen. What may happen, if Samsung is successful, is
> triple-click home will be disabled so you would not be able to turn VO on
> and off independently.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 24/02/2013, at 10:52, "anita"  wrote:
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>> Hi List,
>> If the unthinkable happens, in that IOS products aren't accessible to
>> us, then what to do next? Going back to MobileSpeak isn't anything I want
>> to do!
>> Anita
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RE: calendar

[Frank Ventura]

Check your Calendar settings on the iPhone (Settings > Mail and calendars) and 
make sure that the Exchange calendar is set as your default calendar.
Frank

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Roger Frischenmeyer
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Subject: calendar

Any ideas why I can add a calendar appoint through outlook and it comes to my 
iphone but if I add it on my iphone, it doesn't sync to outlook. We are on an 
exchange server would that make a difference? Any ideas to solve this would be 
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question about playing sixthsence and demenchens the game and is the applevis sight down?

[Mich]

Hi all. I just downloaded 2 apps and I am wondering how to get started playing 
them? the first is sixthsence. it is that zomby game for the iphone 4s. I have 
gotten to the part that says you can skip this by pressing tab. does this meen 
that you need to hook your iphone up to a pc to play this game? and the second 
game I just got was demenchens the game. I know that there was some podcasts 
dun on this game in the past. I am wondering if some one can give me some 
pointers on how to play? and my third questiion is is the applevis sight down? 
since i go to the home page and it gives this worning msg about cash and a 
buntch of stuff that makes me think that the sight is down. many thanks for any 
help that any one can give me with this. from Mich.

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Re: Question.

[David Chittenden]

That won't happen. What may happen, if Samsung is successful, is triple-click 
home will be disabled so you would not be able to turn VO on and off 
independently.

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Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi List,
> If the unthinkable happens, in that IOS products aren't accessible to us, 
> then what to do next? Going back to MobileSpeak isn't anything I want to do!
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Re: Question.

[Aaron Linson]

I am thinking about a switching to android for this reAson. 

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Question.

[anita]

Hi List,
If the unthinkable happens, in that IOS products aren't accessible to us, 
then what to do next? Going back to MobileSpeak isn't anything I want to do!
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Printing on papers with iphone

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

I hate taking my laptop with me, just to print any papers that I will need
to print, so am asking if we can print any paper or pic that is on my I
phone into papers? What thing must I buy to perform this?
I need to do this on the go not at my home, so no wireless printer or
something like that.

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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Aman Singer]

Hi, Cheryl.
I'm afraid they didn't lose the case, the judge has simply stopped it
from moving forward for a period of time. That period of time will end
when another court gives its decision. If the decision is favourable
to Samsung and the patent, then the case starts up again. This is not
a loss for Samsung, it's a delay of the case.
I hope that's of use.
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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[David Chittenden]

The reason so many are upset, including myself, about this particular case has 
nothing to do with the merits, or lack there in, of this case. The reason is 
that Samsung attempted to remove blindness accessibility from the only product 
which has full accessibility built-in (yes, Google is catching up).

As one of the reviewers quoted in the article stated, this is the public 
relations equivalent of Samsung punching itself in the face.

In the blindness community, Freedom Scientific did something similar, albeit 
significantly less intense, when they sued Freedom Box over its name because 
Freedom is the first half of Freedom Scientific. Freedom Box, being such a 
smaller company at that time changed its name to Serotech to avoid all the 
expense involved in defending itself legally. It then successfully rebranded 
itself. After a while, Freedom Scientific recovered its positive perception in 
the community.

Any company which owns a patent or copyright must actively pursue protecting 
its patent. If it does not do so, when the patented concept becomes ubiquitous, 
it becomes public domain. In this case, Samsung made a huge public relations 
blunder whilst actively protecting its patents. This blunder is being perceived 
as though Samsung would deliberately ruin accessibility for a significantly 
disadvantaged group of people. Considering that Samsung does not actively 
incorporate accessibility in their consumer electronics products, do they have 
any concern whatsoever for the blind?

I personally hope that, as Samsung works to clear its name from this, the 
company starts adding accessibility into its products for the purpose of 
repairing its public reputation.

After all, Samsung called for the removal of the ability to turn VoiceOver on 
and off in the iOS devices using an accessible method. Of course, had Samsung 
won the lawsuit, iOS devices, in order to comply, may well have become somewhat 
less accessible. As Apple is now known for iPhone accessibility, this may well 
have damaged Apple's reputation which might have given Samsung a boost in its 
reputation.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 24/02/2013, at 9:15, Aman Singer  wrote:

> Hi.
> The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
> originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
> the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
> action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
> federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
> from reading the patent
> (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
> seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
> which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
> German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
> already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
> eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
> narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
> online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
> The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
> http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
> and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
> The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
> his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
> when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
> his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
> surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
> infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
> if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
> arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
> which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
> Aman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>> The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
>> However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
>> picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article are
>> legitimate.
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>>> I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you
>>> do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 24/02/2013, 

RE: Voice Dream what a great app.

[Rick alfaro]

Richard,

 

That's great.  Thanks for forwarding my wish list.  I'm really glad to hear
these features are coming.  

 

Best,

 

Rick

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream what a great app.

 

Rick,

I was corresponding with Winston, the developer about some other questions,
so I took the liberty of forwarding your note to him.

Here is his reply:

All these feature are coming. The VO access to the text box is coming in the
next release.

 

It's just one developer, me, so I can tackle my backlog only so fast.

 

Best,

 

Winston.

 

I bought the app as much to support him as to show the app to clients as
well as begin using it.  I like it and the fact that he is so considerate
and responsive.  

 

Richard

 

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick alfaro
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream what a great app.

 

I have to say I totally agree.  There are only a few things I would like to
see added.

 

1.   A way to read through the text by character, or word using VO.

2.   Support for iCloud so that the library and reading position could
be maintained across multiple devices.

3.   Support for AirPlay. I use AirPlay a lot to listen wirelessly via
my Apple TV.

Not sure if the developer still monitors this list, but he has in the past
and has been very responsive.

 

Best,

 

Rick

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donna Slater
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:16 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Voice Dream what a great app.

 

Hi

 

Wow I wish I'd discovered voice dream a while ago. I've been looking for an
app like this for ages. I think it might even mean that I can now dispense
with other players such as the booksense. Being able to stop and start the
app via the headphones is great, and because the app will link to dropbox or
open books from mail there's no awkward synching with iTunes. It's totally
accessible with voiceover and I think the developers have done an amazing
job. Definitely an app I will be using a lot.  

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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Robert Fenton]

Cheryl:

The suit they previously lost relates to another patent. This doesn't just 
relate to the home button but relates to the touch screen technology itself. 
There are a lot of implications here. We need to watch this very closely. While 
the German proceeding has been stopped for the time being, it has not been 
stayed as previously indicated. It is simply being held and abeyance. Those

Are two very different concepts. Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-23, at 2:13 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> It's my understanding they already lost this suit.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Aman Singer  wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> I would be stunned if they had any interest in the blind/visually
>> impaired market, that market is so close to nonexistence as to make
>> little difference. Samsung has just been throwing all their patents at
>> Apple and seeing what sticks. Apple has been doing the same. It's a
>> shame people can't make new products rather than abusing the patent
>> system by filing patents which try to swallow the hole world and
>> forcing the courts to make them throw up.
>> Aman
>> 
>> On 2/23/13, Philip S  wrote:
>>> Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
>>> some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
>>> Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
>>> Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
>>> accessibility project?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/23/13, Aman Singer  wrote:
 Hi.
 The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
 originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
 the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
 action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
 federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
 from reading the patent
 (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
 seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
 which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
 German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
 already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
 eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
 narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
 online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
 http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
 The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
 http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
 and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
 http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
 The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
 his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
 when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
 his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
 surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
 infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
 if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
 arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
 which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
 Aman
 
 
 
 
 On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
> However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
> picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
> are
> legitimate.
> 
> Bob Fenton
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden 
> wrote:
> 
>> I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if
>> you
>> do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:
>> 
>>> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
>>> write?
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
 
> Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
> Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
> 
> 
> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
> 

Re: atbat app update

[Robert Fenton]

Hello everybody:

I believe I may have encountered a new bug but I am not sure. I am able to 
replicate this both on an iPhone for S and an iPhone five. The problem is this. 
When I start playing the audio in at bat, it plays fine for about 25 minutes or 
so and then stops playing. This happens when I remain in the app and I'm doing 
nothing with my phone. Has anyone else encountered this problem? If so, how 
have you worked around it? Thank you for your help.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-23, at 12:27 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm chiming in a bit late, but Recardo says there's a bug if i sign up for 
> MLB.TV premium on MLB.com, I won't be able to get the game day audio on my 
> iOS devices? If this is true, then it makes that option extremely 
> unattractive.
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 1:08 PM, "Richard Turner"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it worked fine for me at work yesterday using Win7 and IE 8.
>>  
>> Also, I’m streaming the Astros, Phillies game right now and I checked Email 
>> on the phone, launched Safari without any problem.
>> I used the app switcher to get out of the At Bat app and that kept the 
>> stream going.
>> If I hit the home button to get back to the home screen, it pauses the audio.
>> I think closing the game day audio screen first may also help prevent the 
>> pausing.
>>  
>> This is on the iPhone 5.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Fred Olver
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>  
>> I can confirm that after linking my at bat account to MLB that I can get 
>> gameday audio on my PC.
>>  
>> Fred Olver
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Cheryl Homiak
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>  
>> Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio 
>> automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!) 
>> to pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and 
>> then didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I 
>> haven't actually found anything on the website that says it only requires 
>> one subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium 
>> but not sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed 
>> in previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always 
>> gets changed until the actual season starts.
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>>  
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I 
>> was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I 
>> only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the 
>> application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first 
>> and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for 
>>> the audio on mlb.com works only for the computer and not the iphone.  The 
>>> AtBat is paid through the appstore while the online audio is paid through 
>>> the web site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on your phone you 
>>> must pay both subscriptions. 
>>>  
>>> This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect of 
>>> mlbtv on this.
>>>  
>>> Ralph
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sean Paul
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>> At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you 
>>> connect your MLB.com account with your Atbat app. If that's the way that I 
>>> understood how it is working this year. I've had both for the last couple 
>>> years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived games which I couldn't 
>>> get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking & understanding is correct & 
>>> I'll only have to pay once this year. - Original Message -
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>> Hello,
>>> You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts today. As 
>>> far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to wait 
>>> until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you 
>>> can use your mlb.com account if you buy MLB.TV premium to stream the games 
>>> through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.
>>> On F

Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Cheryl Homiak]

It's my understanding they already lost this suit.

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Aman Singer  wrote:

> Hi.
> I would be stunned if they had any interest in the blind/visually
> impaired market, that market is so close to nonexistence as to make
> little difference. Samsung has just been throwing all their patents at
> Apple and seeing what sticks. Apple has been doing the same. It's a
> shame people can't make new products rather than abusing the patent
> system by filing patents which try to swallow the hole world and
> forcing the courts to make them throw up.
> Aman
> 
> On 2/23/13, Philip S  wrote:
>> Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
>> some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
>> Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
>> Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
>> accessibility project?
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/23/13, Aman Singer  wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>> The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
>>> originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
>>> the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
>>> action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
>>> federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
>>> from reading the patent
>>> (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
>>> seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
>>> which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
>>> German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
>>> already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
>>> eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
>>> narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
>>> online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
>>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
>>> The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
>>> http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
>>> and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
>>> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
>>> The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
>>> his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
>>> when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
>>> his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
>>> surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
>>> infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
>>> if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
>>> arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
>>> which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
>>> Aman
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
 The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
 However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
 picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
 are
 legitimate.
 
 Bob Fenton
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden 
 wrote:
 
> I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if
> you
> do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
>> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
>> write?
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
 Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
 Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
 
 
 Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
 they've
 even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
 And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
 school
 in Korea.
 Unconscionable.
 Alice
 Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
 Kelion
 
 Technology reporter
 
 The VoiceOver function is designed to help
 blind and partially sighted consumers use the
 iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
 effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
 making its software accessible to bl

Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Aman Singer]

Hi.
I would be stunned if they had any interest in the blind/visually
impaired market, that market is so close to nonexistence as to make
little difference. Samsung has just been throwing all their patents at
Apple and seeing what sticks. Apple has been doing the same. It's a
shame people can't make new products rather than abusing the patent
system by filing patents which try to swallow the hole world and
forcing the courts to make them throw up.
Aman

On 2/23/13, Philip S  wrote:
> Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
> some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
> Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
> Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
> accessibility project?
>
>
> On 2/23/13, Aman Singer  wrote:
>> Hi.
>> The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
>> originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
>> the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
>> action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
>> federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
>> from reading the patent
>>  (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
>>  seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
>>  which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
>>  German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
>>  already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
>>  eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
>>  narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
>>  online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
>> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
>>  The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
>> http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
>>  and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
>> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
>>  The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
>>  his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
>>  when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
>>  his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
>>  surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
>>  infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
>>  if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
>>  arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
>>  which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
>> Aman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>>> The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
>>> However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
>>> picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
>>> are
>>> legitimate.
>>>
>>> Bob Fenton
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if
 you
 do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.

 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone

 On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:

> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
> write?
>
> Craig
>
> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>
>>> Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
>>> Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
>>> 
>>>
>>> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
>>> they've
>>> even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
>>> And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
>>> school
>>> in Korea.
>>> Unconscionable.
>>> Alice
>>> Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
>>> Kelion
>>>
>>> Technology reporter
>>>
>>> The VoiceOver function is designed to help
>>> blind and partially sighted consumers use the
>>> iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
>>> effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
>>> making its software accessible to blind people.
>>>
>>> The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
>>> a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
>>> screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
>>>
>>> However, the judge has ordered the case to be
>>> suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's
>>> claim.
>>>
>>> Disability

RE: calendar

[Richard Turner]

Check in the calendar settings on your iPhone to see that the PC calendar is
selected.  You may need sighted assistance for that since VoiceOver no
longer reports the state of the selected calendars.

 

Richard

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Roger Frischenmeyer
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: calendar

 

Any ideas why I can add a calendar appoint through outlook and it comes to
my iphone but if I add it on my iphone, it doesn't sync to outlook. We are
on an exchange server would that make a difference? Any ideas to solve this
would be great. 

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RE: atbat app update

[Richard Turner]

I would simply call MLB and get a clear answer.

I am only dealing with the audio side of things.

Richard

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: atbat app update

 

Hi,

 

I'm chiming in a bit late, but Recardo says there's a bug if i sign up for
MLB.TV premium on MLB.com, I won't be able to get the game day audio on my
iOS devices? If this is true, then it makes that option extremely
unattractive.

 

On Feb 23, 2013, at 1:08 PM, "Richard Turner" 
wrote:





Yes, it worked fine for me at work yesterday using Win7 and IE 8.

 

Also, I'm streaming the Astros, Phillies game right now and I checked Email
on the phone, launched Safari without any problem.

I used the app switcher to get out of the At Bat app and that kept the
stream going.

If I hit the home button to get back to the home screen, it pauses the
audio.

I think closing the game day audio screen first may also help prevent the
pausing.

 

This is on the iPhone 5.

 

Richard

 

 

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From:   viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Olver
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: atbat app update

 

I can confirm that after linking my at bat account to MLB that I can get
gameday audio on my PC.

 

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 

From: Cheryl Homiak   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: atbat app update

 

Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio
automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!)
to pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and
then didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I
haven't actually found anything on the website that says it only requires
one subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium
but not sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed
in previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always
gets changed until the actual season starts. 

 

 



-- 

Cheryl

 

May the words of my mouth 

and the meditation of my heart

be acceptable to You, Lord,

my rock and my Redeemer.

(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)






 

On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton 
wrote:






That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I
was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I
only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the
application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first
and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.

Bob Fenton 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:

Hi,

 

I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for the
audio on mlb.com   works only for the computer and not the
iphone.  The AtBat is paid through the appstore while the online audio is
paid through the web site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on
your phone you must pay both subscriptions.  

 

This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect of
mlbtv on this.

 

Ralph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: atbat app update

At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you
connect your MLB.com   account with your Atbat app. If
that's the way that I understood how it is working this year. I've had both
for the last couple years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived
games which I couldn't get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking &
understanding is correct & I'll only have to pay once this year. -
Original Message - 

From: Daniel Miller   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53

Subject: Re: atbat app update

Hello, 

You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts today. As
far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to wait
until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you can
use your mlb.com   account if you buy MLB.TV premium to
stream the games through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.

On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:49 PM, "Paul Ferrara" 
wrote:







All, I saw the At Bat app had an update; it said new features available. Did
anyone catch what those would be?

Also when can you pay the subscription for the audio?

Finally, is there any advantage at all to having an MLB.com
  account?

Thanks.

Paul

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RE: Voice Dream what a great app.

[Richard Turner]

Rick,

I was corresponding with Winston, the developer about some other questions,
so I took the liberty of forwarding your note to him.

Here is his reply:

All these feature are coming. The VO access to the text box is coming in the
next release.

 

It's just one developer, me, so I can tackle my backlog only so fast.

 

Best,

 

Winston.

 

I bought the app as much to support him as to show the app to clients as
well as begin using it.  I like it and the fact that he is so considerate
and responsive.  

 

Richard

 

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick alfaro
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Voice Dream what a great app.

 

I have to say I totally agree.  There are only a few things I would like to
see added.

 

1.   A way to read through the text by character, or word using VO.

2.   Support for iCloud so that the library and reading position could
be maintained across multiple devices.

3.   Support for AirPlay. I use AirPlay a lot to listen wirelessly via
my Apple TV.

Not sure if the developer still monitors this list, but he has in the past
and has been very responsive.

 

Best,

 

Rick

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donna Slater
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:16 PM
To: viphone
Subject: Voice Dream what a great app.

 

Hi

 

Wow I wish I'd discovered voice dream a while ago. I've been looking for an
app like this for ages. I think it might even mean that I can now dispense
with other players such as the booksense. Being able to stop and start the
app via the headphones is great, and because the app will link to dropbox or
open books from mail there's no awkward synching with iTunes. It's totally
accessible with voiceover and I think the developers have done an amazing
job. Definitely an app I will be using a lot.  

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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Philip S]

Just curious, is it possible that Samsung is thinking about capturing
some of the blind/visually impaired consumer smartphone market from
Apple, albeit in a very nasty and unwise way?
Does anyone know if Samsung is working on some major smartphone
accessibility project?


On 2/23/13, Aman Singer  wrote:
> Hi.
> The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
> originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
> the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
> action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
> federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
> from reading the patent
>  (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
>  seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
>  which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
>  German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
>  already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
>  eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
>  narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
>  online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
>  The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
> http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
>  and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
>  The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
>  his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
>  when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
>  his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
>  surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
>  infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
>  if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
>  arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
>  which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
> Aman
>
>
>
>
> On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>> The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
>> However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
>> picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article
>> are
>> legitimate.
>>
>> Bob Fenton
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you
>>> do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.
>>>
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>>
 David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
 write?

 Craig

 On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>
>> Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
>> Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
>> 
>>
>> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
>> they've
>> even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
>> And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
>> school
>> in Korea.
>> Unconscionable.
>> Alice
>> Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
>> Kelion
>>
>> Technology reporter
>>
>> The VoiceOver function is designed to help
>> blind and partially sighted consumers use the
>> iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
>> effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
>> making its software accessible to blind people.
>>
>> The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
>> a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
>> screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
>>
>> However, the judge has ordered the case to be
>> suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's
>> claim.
>>
>> Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
>>
>> Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
>> partially-sighted people to hear a description of
>> what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
>>
>> The software covers text and icons including
>> audio descriptions of the battery level and
>> network signal. It also allows the phones to be
>> operated via Braille-based add-ons.
>>
>> Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to
>> licence a patent it owned which describes
>> pressing a button to make a handset describe its

calendar

[Roger Frischenmeyer]

Any ideas why I can add a calendar appoint through outlook and it comes to my 
iphone but if I add it on my iphone, it doesn't sync to outlook. We are on an 
exchange server would that make a difference? Any ideas to solve this would be 
great. 
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Re: atbat app update

[Les Kriegler]

If you do it through the App Store, you will be fine. You have access to both 
then.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm chiming in a bit late, but Recardo says there's a bug if i sign up for 
> MLB.TV premium on MLB.com, I won't be able to get the game day audio on my 
> iOS devices? If this is true, then it makes that option extremely 
> unattractive.
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 1:08 PM, "Richard Turner"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, it worked fine for me at work yesterday using Win7 and IE 8.
>>  
>> Also, I’m streaming the Astros, Phillies game right now and I checked Email 
>> on the phone, launched Safari without any problem.
>> I used the app switcher to get out of the At Bat app and that kept the 
>> stream going.
>> If I hit the home button to get back to the home screen, it pauses the audio.
>> I think closing the game day audio screen first may also help prevent the 
>> pausing.
>>  
>> This is on the iPhone 5.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Fred Olver
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>  
>> I can confirm that after linking my at bat account to MLB that I can get 
>> gameday audio on my PC.
>>  
>> Fred Olver
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Cheryl Homiak
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>  
>> Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio 
>> automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!) 
>> to pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and 
>> then didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I 
>> haven't actually found anything on the website that says it only requires 
>> one subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium 
>> but not sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed 
>> in previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always 
>> gets changed until the actual season starts.
>>  
>>  
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>>  
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I 
>> was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I 
>> only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the 
>> application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first 
>> and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for 
>>> the audio on mlb.com works only for the computer and not the iphone.  The 
>>> AtBat is paid through the appstore while the online audio is paid through 
>>> the web site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on your phone you 
>>> must pay both subscriptions. 
>>>  
>>> This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect of 
>>> mlbtv on this.
>>>  
>>> Ralph
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sean Paul
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>> At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you 
>>> connect your MLB.com account with your Atbat app. If that's the way that I 
>>> understood how it is working this year. I've had both for the last couple 
>>> years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived games which I couldn't 
>>> get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking & understanding is correct & 
>>> I'll only have to pay once this year. - Original Message -
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>> Hello,
>>> You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts today. As 
>>> far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to wait 
>>> until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you 
>>> can use your mlb.com account if you buy MLB.TV premium to stream the games 
>>> through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.
>>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:49 PM, "Paul Ferrara"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All, I saw the At Bat app had an update; it said new features available. 
>>> Did anyone catch what those would be?
>>> Also when can you pay the subscription for the audio?
>>> Finally, is there any advantage at all to having an MLB.com account?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Paul
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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Aman Singer]

Hi.
The patent does not simply apply to the home button, at least as
originally submitted. Despite that, I would say that any reaction at
the moment is a bit overblown, after all, the court did stay the
action on this patent for now with a plain hint that the ruling in the
federal court was likely to turn out badly for Samsung. In any case,
from reading the patent
 (the US version of the patent, anyway, I don't read German, the patent
 seems to have other issues, it is very wide and I know of two products
 which did this even before the Korean patent which the American and
 German patents are based on was issued back in 1999. Samsung has
 already narrowed the patent significantly, but according to the judge,
 eeven the narrowed patent is unlikely to succeed. I haven't seen the
 narrowed patent description, and don't know where it can be found
 online if it can be found at all. The US patent is at
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6937700.PN.&OS=PN/6937700&RS=PN/6937700
 The german patent, for those of us who know that language, is at
http://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE10040386B4&page=1&dpi=150&lang=de
 and a blogger's description of the stay and reasons for it is at
http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html
 The blogger, Florian Mueller, has a bunch of interesting links with
 his own views about the case and seems to link to source documents
 when he can, which is great. I got the links I pasted in above from
 his site. Personally, I suspect this is unimportant, I would be
 surprised if Samsung's patent was upheld, if Apple were found to have
 infringed it and, even if those two astonishing things come to pass,
 if Samsung and Apple don't work something out as a licensing
 arrangement. Remember that this is all part of a much larger situation
 which is worldwide and which is about many other patents/issues.
Aman




On 2/23/13, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC.
> However, several of the financial and technology publications have also
> picked this up. There's no question that the thoughts behind the article are
> legitimate.
>
> Bob Fenton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>
>> I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you
>> do a google search, you will be able to find the publication.
>>
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:
>>
>>> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion
>>> write?
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:

> Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
> Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List
> 
>
> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact
> they've
> even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
> And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog
> school
> in Korea.
> Unconscionable.
> Alice
> Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo
> Kelion
>
> Technology reporter
>
> The VoiceOver function is designed to help
> blind and partially sighted consumers use the
> iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
> effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
> making its software accessible to blind people.
>
> The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
> a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
> screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
>
> However, the judge has ordered the case to be
> suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's
> claim.
>
> Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
>
> Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
> partially-sighted people to hear a description of
> what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
>
> The software covers text and icons including
> audio descriptions of the battery level and
> network signal. It also allows the phones to be
> operated via Braille-based add-ons.
>
> Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to
> licence a patent it owned which describes
> pressing a button to make a handset describe its
> display. The basis for this was that VoiceOver
> could be switched on by triple-clicking the iPhone's home button.
>
> Apple declined to comment.
>
> A statement from Samsung said: "For decades, we
> have heavily invested in pioneering the
> development of technological innovations in the
> mobile industry, which have been constantly reflected in our products.
>
> "We continue to believe that Apple has in

Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[Robert Fenton]

The article that was quoted here was originally published by the BBC. However, 
several of the financial and technology publications have also picked this up. 
There's no question that the thoughts behind the article are legitimate.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-23, at 12:51 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you do a 
> google search, you will be able to find the publication.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:
> 
>> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion write?
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
 Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
 Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List 
 
 Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact they've
 even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
 And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog school
 in Korea.
 Unconscionable.
 Alice
 Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo Kelion
 
 Technology reporter
 
 The VoiceOver function is designed to help
 blind and partially sighted consumers use the
 iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
 effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
 making its software accessible to blind people.
 
 The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
 a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
 screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
 
 However, the judge has ordered the case to be
 suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's claim.
 
 Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
 
 Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
 partially-sighted people to hear a description of
 what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
 
 The software covers text and icons including
 audio descriptions of the battery level and
 network signal. It also allows the phones to be
 operated via Braille-based add-ons.
 
 Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to
 licence a patent it owned which describes
 pressing a button to make a handset describe its
 display. The basis for this was that VoiceOver
 could be switched on by triple-clicking the iPhone's home button.
 
 Apple declined to comment.
 
 A statement from Samsung said: "For decades, we
 have heavily invested in pioneering the
 development of technological innovations in the
 mobile industry, which have been constantly reflected in our products.
 
 "We continue to believe that Apple has infringed
 our patented mobile technologies, and we will
 continue to take the measures necessary to
 protect our intellectual property rights."
 
 'Regrettable in the extreme'
 
 Patent consultant Florian Muller, who was first
 to report the Mannheim Court's decision, questioned Samsung's tactics.
 
 "If Samsung had only requested monetary
 compensation in this action, it would have made a
 much better choice than by trying to achieve,
 through the pursuit of an injunction, the
 deactivation or (more realistically) degradation
 of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to
 its German customers," he wrote on his blog.
 
 The British Computer Association of the Blind
 said it was worried such an important feature might be threatened.
 
 "A lack of access to information is arguably the
 biggest potential barrier to inclusion in society
 for blind and partially-sighted people," a spokesman told the BBC.
 
 "If something as important as access to telephone
 technology had been blocked by the actions of one
 company over another the consequences for blind
 people everywhere would be regrettable in the extreme."
 
 The Wall Street Journal's AllThingsD tech site was more damning.
 
 "Leaving aside the ethics of asserting a patent
 against a feature designed to help the blind,
 this is unwise," wrote John Paczkowski.
 
 "It's the PR equivalent of punching yourself in
 the face. Samsung has now identified itself as a
 company willing to accept the loss of
 accessibility for the vision-impaired as
 collateral damage in its battle with Apple."
 
 Apple and Samsung have fought a number of patent
 cases against each other in courts across the world.
 
 The biggest award involved a US jury ordering
 Samsung to pay Apple $1.05bn (£688m) in damages.
 The judge in the case later rejected Apple's call
 for the sum to be increased and a sales ban on some Samsung handsets.
 
 
 
 _

Re: The Open In button

[David Chittenden]

Use a three finger vertical flick.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2013, at 3:40, VaShaun Jones  wrote:

> Listers
> The open in button like on Drop Box has page 1 of 3 and I can't for the life 
> of me remember how to get more apps to show up on the page. Do any of you 
> know? I've tried double tapping, swiping and a three finger swipe from left 
> to right but neither works. HELP!
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Re: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung

[David Chittenden]

I do not know. I received the message from another list. I'm sure if you do a 
google search, you will be able to find the publication.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2013, at 2:30, Craig Werner  wrote:

> David, what is the source of this article?  For whom does Leo Kelion write?
> 
> Craig
> 
> On 2/23/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
>> 
>>> Subject: VoiceOver threatened by Samsung
>>> Reply-To: Blind Democracy Discussion List 
>>> 
>>> Even if Samsung does not succeed in their action, the very fact they've
>>> even tried it guarantees I will never buy a Samsung product.
>>> And to think Samsung was instrumental in establishing the guide dog school
>>> in Korea.
>>> Unconscionable.
>>> Alice
>>> Samsung struggles to block iPhone function for the blindBy Leo Kelion
>>> 
>>> Technology reporter
>>> 
>>>  The VoiceOver function is designed to help
>>> blind and partially sighted consumers use the
>>> iPhone Samsung has suffered a setback in its
>>> effort to win an iPhone ban based on a function
>>> making its software accessible to blind people.
>>> 
>>> The South Korean firm had sought an injunction in
>>> a German court arguing Apple's VoiceOver
>>> screen-access facility infringed one of its patents.
>>> 
>>> However, the judge has ordered the case to be
>>> suspended pending another ruling that could invalidate Samsung's claim.
>>> 
>>> Disability campaigners had expressed concern about the case.
>>> 
>>> Apple's VoiceOver function is used by blind and
>>> partially-sighted people to hear a description of
>>> what the iPhone is showing by touching its screen.
>>> 
>>> The software covers text and icons including
>>> audio descriptions of the battery level and
>>> network signal. It also allows the phones to be
>>> operated via Braille-based add-ons.
>>> 
>>> Samsung had argued that Apple had failed to
>>> licence a patent it owned which describes
>>> pressing a button to make a handset describe its
>>> display. The basis for this was that VoiceOver
>>> could be switched on by triple-clicking the iPhone's home button.
>>> 
>>> Apple declined to comment.
>>> 
>>> A statement from Samsung said: "For decades, we
>>> have heavily invested in pioneering the
>>> development of technological innovations in the
>>> mobile industry, which have been constantly reflected in our products.
>>> 
>>> "We continue to believe that Apple has infringed
>>> our patented mobile technologies, and we will
>>> continue to take the measures necessary to
>>> protect our intellectual property rights."
>>> 
>>> 'Regrettable in the extreme'
>>> 
>>> Patent consultant Florian Muller, who was first
>>> to report the Mannheim Court's decision, questioned Samsung's tactics.
>>> 
>>> "If Samsung had only requested monetary
>>> compensation in this action, it would have made a
>>> much better choice than by trying to achieve,
>>> through the pursuit of an injunction, the
>>> deactivation or (more realistically) degradation
>>> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to
>>> its German customers," he wrote on his blog.
>>> 
>>> The British Computer Association of the Blind
>>> said it was worried such an important feature might be threatened.
>>> 
>>> "A lack of access to information is arguably the
>>> biggest potential barrier to inclusion in society
>>> for blind and partially-sighted people," a spokesman told the BBC.
>>> 
>>> "If something as important as access to telephone
>>> technology had been blocked by the actions of one
>>> company over another the consequences for blind
>>> people everywhere would be regrettable in the extreme."
>>> 
>>> The Wall Street Journal's AllThingsD tech site was more damning.
>>> 
>>> "Leaving aside the ethics of asserting a patent
>>> against a feature designed to help the blind,
>>> this is unwise," wrote John Paczkowski.
>>> 
>>> "It's the PR equivalent of punching yourself in
>>> the face. Samsung has now identified itself as a
>>> company willing to accept the loss of
>>> accessibility for the vision-impaired as
>>> collateral damage in its battle with Apple."
>>> 
>>> Apple and Samsung have fought a number of patent
>>> cases against each other in courts across the world.
>>> 
>>> The biggest award involved a US jury ordering
>>> Samsung to pay Apple $1.05bn (£688m) in damages.
>>> The judge in the case later rejected Apple's call
>>> for the sum to be increased and a sales ban on some Samsung handsets.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> blind-democr...@octothorp.org
>>> http://www.octothorp.org/mailman/listinfo/blind-democracy
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Re: Looking for GPS with Greatest Number of POIs

[David Chittenden]

I like:
Apple Maps (iOS V6 and above)
Where To
iMove
Around Me


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Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 24/02/2013, at 2:23, Craig Werner  wrote:

> Greetings to the list.
> 
> Iam in search of an app that tracks location and lists points of
> interest (POIs) around that location.  I have LookAround from Sendero.
> Are there other apps I should be looking at?
> 
> Thank you for all help.
> 
> Craig
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Re: atbat app update

[Daniel Miller]

Hi,

I'm chiming in a bit late, but Recardo says there's a bug if i sign up for 
MLB.TV premium on MLB.com, I won't be able to get the game day audio on my iOS 
devices? If this is true, then it makes that option extremely unattractive.

On Feb 23, 2013, at 1:08 PM, "Richard Turner"  
wrote:

> Yes, it worked fine for me at work yesterday using Win7 and IE 8.
>  
> Also, I’m streaming the Astros, Phillies game right now and I checked Email 
> on the phone, launched Safari without any problem.
> I used the app switcher to get out of the At Bat app and that kept the stream 
> going.
> If I hit the home button to get back to the home screen, it pauses the audio.
> I think closing the game day audio screen first may also help prevent the 
> pausing.
>  
> This is on the iPhone 5.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Fred Olver
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:04 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>  
> I can confirm that after linking my at bat account to MLB that I can get 
> gameday audio on my PC.
>  
> Fred Olver
> - Original Message -
> From: Cheryl Homiak
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>  
> Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio 
> automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!) to 
> pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and then 
> didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I 
> haven't actually found anything on the website that says it only requires one 
> subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium but not 
> sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed in 
> previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always gets 
> changed until the actual season starts.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Cheryl
>  
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
>  
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> 
> 
> That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I 
> was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I 
> only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the 
> application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first 
> and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.
> 
> Bob Fenton
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for the 
>> audio on mlb.com works only for the computer and not the iphone.  The AtBat 
>> is paid through the appstore while the online audio is paid through the web 
>> site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on your phone you must pay 
>> both subscriptions. 
>>  
>> This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect of 
>> mlbtv on this.
>>  
>> Ralph
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sean Paul
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>> At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you 
>> connect your MLB.com account with your Atbat app. If that's the way that I 
>> understood how it is working this year. I've had both for the last couple 
>> years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived games which I couldn't 
>> get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking & understanding is correct & 
>> I'll only have to pay once this year. - Original Message -
>> From: Daniel Miller
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>> Hello,
>> You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts today. As 
>> far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to wait 
>> until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you can 
>> use your mlb.com account if you buy MLB.TV premium to stream the games 
>> through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.
>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:49 PM, "Paul Ferrara"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> All, I saw the At Bat app had an update; it said new features available. Did 
>> anyone catch what those would be?
>> Also when can you pay the subscription for the audio?
>> Finally, is there any advantage at all to having an MLB.com account?
>> Thanks.
>> Paul
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RE: atbat app update

[Richard Turner]

Yes, it worked fine for me at work yesterday using Win7 and IE 8.

 

Also, I'm streaming the Astros, Phillies game right now and I checked Email
on the phone, launched Safari without any problem.

I used the app switcher to get out of the At Bat app and that kept the
stream going.

If I hit the home button to get back to the home screen, it pauses the
audio.

I think closing the game day audio screen first may also help prevent the
pausing.

 

This is on the iPhone 5.

 

Richard

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: atbat app update

 

I can confirm that after linking my at bat account to MLB that I can get
gameday audio on my PC.

 

Fred Olver

- Original Message - 

From: Cheryl Homiak   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: atbat app update

 

Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio
automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!)
to pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and
then didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I
haven't actually found anything on the website that says it only requires
one subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium
but not sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed
in previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always
gets changed until the actual season starts. 

 

 



-- 

Cheryl

 

May the words of my mouth 

and the meditation of my heart

be acceptable to You, Lord,

my rock and my Redeemer.

(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





 

On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton 
wrote:





That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I
was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I
only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the
application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first
and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.

Bob Fenton 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:

Hi,

 

I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for the
audio on mlb.com   works only for the computer and not the
iphone.  The AtBat is paid through the appstore while the online audio is
paid through the web site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on
your phone you must pay both subscriptions.  

 

This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect of
mlbtv on this.

 

Ralph

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: atbat app update

At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you
connect your MLB.com   account with your Atbat app. If
that's the way that I understood how it is working this year. I've had both
for the last couple years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived
games which I couldn't get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking &
understanding is correct & I'll only have to pay once this year. -
Original Message - 

From: Daniel Miller   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53

Subject: Re: atbat app update

Hello, 

You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts today. As
far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to wait
until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you can
use your mlb.com   account if you buy MLB.TV premium to
stream the games through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.

On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:49 PM, "Paul Ferrara" 
wrote:






All, I saw the At Bat app had an update; it said new features available. Did
anyone catch what those would be?

Also when can you pay the subscription for the audio?

Finally, is there any advantage at all to having an MLB.com
  account?

Thanks.

Paul

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Re: atbat app update

[Fred Olver]

I can confirm that after linking my at bat account to MLB that I can get 
gameday audio on my PC.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 9:48 AM
  Subject: Re: atbat app update


  Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio 
automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!) to 
pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and then 
didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I haven't 
actually found anything on the website that says it only requires one 
subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium but not 
sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed in 
previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always gets 
changed until the actual season starts.




  -- 
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  May the words of my mouth
  and the meditation of my heart
  be acceptable to You, Lord,
  my rock and my Redeemer.
  (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





  On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:


That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I 
was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I only 
had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the application 
itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first and then connect 
their MLB account and see what happens.

Bob Fenton


Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:


  Hi,



  I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for 
the audio on mlb.com works only for the computer and not the iphone.  The AtBat 
is paid through the appstore while the online audio is paid through the web 
site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on your phone you must pay 
both subscriptions.  



  This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect 
of mlbtv on this.



  Ralph



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Sean Paul
  Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: atbat app update



  At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you 
connect your MLB.com account with your Atbat app. If that's the way that I 
understood how it is working this year. I've had both for the last couple 
years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived games which I couldn't get 
in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking & understanding is correct & I'll only 
have to pay once this year. - Original Message - 

From: Daniel Miller 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53

Subject: Re: atbat app update



Hello, 



You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts 
today. As far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to 
wait until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you 
can use your mlb.com account if you buy MLB.TV premium to stream the games 
through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.



On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:49 PM, "Paul Ferrara" 
 wrote:





All, I saw the At Bat app had an update; it said new features 
available. Did anyone catch what those would be?

Also when can you pay the subscription for the audio?

Finally, is there any advantage at all to having an MLB.com account?



Thanks.



Paul



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Canvas for IOs, looking for others using this app.

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Hi,

I'm looking for others that use Canvas for IOS. I contacted the developers of 
this app a year ago, and the edit fields continue be inaccessible with 
VoiceOver. I'd like to collaborate with other users of this app.
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Re: Purchasing the Big Jambox?

[VaShaun Jones]

$299
On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Kliphton  wrote:

> What's the price tag on this unit?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of VaShaun Jones
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 8:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Purchasing the Big Jambox?
> 
> Do you have the latest DMG for the JBI? I want to test out some apps but I
> have a older version of the installer that I got on a forum. The JBI is 1
> point something and the unit is only 6 months old, so I want to make sure
> the app version you may help me with is the latest. 
> 
> Other than that the BJB is amazing!
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 6:46 AM, E V  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Joseph,
>> 
>> The big Jambox is a wonderful device.  I would recommend it for 
>> anyone.  But to address your question, I would say that to get the 
>> most out of your device,
>> 
>> 1 Navigate to
>> Http://www.jawbone.com
>> and sign up for MyTalk.  You must be signed up in order for you to get 
>> updates for your Jambox.  While you are there, please connect your 
>> Jawbone to your computer via the USB cable.
>> 2  While you are at the Jawbone page, download the updater and save it 
>> to a familiar folder on your computer, such as a Download folder.
>> 3  Install the updater on your computer, it is a regular installable 
>> program.
>> 4  After the updater has been installed, it will put an icon on your 
>> desktop called Jawbone Updater.
>> 5  Please launch the desktop applet entitled Jawbone Updater, and it 
>> will connect both you and your device to the Jawbone web page.
>> 6  Give it a couple of minutes, and then begin navigating the web page 
>> and you will either see updates for your device, or there is no 
>> updates for your device.
>> If no
>> updates, then your device is up-to-date. 
>> 
>> To the subject whether you can independently choose some of the 
>> options for your device, you are going to need help.  The feature that 
>> I recommend is something called party mode, I believe.  Other than 
>> that, the device is extremely easy to use with voice prompts.  All the
> best.
>> 
>> 
>> Edward
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Joseph
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Purchasing the Big Jambox?
>> 
>> Hello List,
>> I am considering purchasing the Big Jambox and I have a few questions.
>> As a totally blind person, will I be able to do the updating of the 
>> system software myself?
>> If it is possible to update by myself, whare the instructions for doing
> so?
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Sprint
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Re: New facebook app problem with liking and sharing status nessages!

[Nicki Keck]

Hi.  I don't know yet about hsaring, but I have found with the new update 
that even though it doesn't, as in the previous one, say "Selected unlike" 
when you click like, it does like the status.  If you look below the comment 
button, it will tell you that "you and" so many others liked this status. 
that's how you know.




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Hi all, I am facing problem with new Facebook app in liking and
sharing status messages. Is anyone successful in in liking and sharing
status messages? Very unfortunate that Facebook is breaking
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posting status messages is broken and now this.

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Re: atbat app update

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

go to the description for the at bat app in the app store.  Its stated there.  
But, there is a bug where those who subscribe on their computers at MLB.com are 
not able to get the game audio on their IOS devices via at bat.  MLB is aware 
of the issue.

hth

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On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio 
> automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!) to 
> pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and then 
> didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I 
> haven't actually found anything on the website that says it only requires one 
> subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium but not 
> sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed in 
> previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always gets 
> changed until the actual season starts.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> 
>> That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I 
>> was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I 
>> only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the 
>> application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first 
>> and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for 
>>> the audio on mlb.com works only for the computer and not the iphone.  The 
>>> AtBat is paid through the appstore while the online audio is paid through 
>>> the web site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on your phone you 
>>> must pay both subscriptions. 
>>> 
>>> This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect of 
>>> mlbtv on this.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sean Paul
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>> 
>>> At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you 
>>> connect your MLB.com account with your Atbat app. If that's the way that I 
>>> understood how it is working this year. I've had both for the last couple 
>>> years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived games which I couldn't 
>>> get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking & understanding is correct & 
>>> I'll only have to pay once this year. - Original Message -
>>> From: Daniel Miller
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53
>>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts today. As 
>>> far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to wait 
>>> until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you 
>>> can use your mlb.com account if you buy MLB.TV premium to stream the games 
>>> through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:49 PM, "Paul Ferrara"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All, I saw the At Bat app had an update; it said new features available. 
>>> Did anyone catch what those would be?
>>> Also when can you pay the subscription for the audio?
>>> Finally, is there any advantage at all to having an MLB.com account?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
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Re: atbat app update

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yes, that should be tried. I did the opposite: renewed with gameday audio 
automatically and then ran the update and wasn't asked (at least not yet!) to 
pay for the atbat subscription. But if i'd paid for atbat instead and then 
didn't have to pay for gameday audio, it would have been cheaper. But I haven't 
actually found anything on the website that says it only requires one 
subscription for both; I do believe that it's free with mlbtv premium but not 
sure about regular mlbtv. Part of the confusion is that I've noticed in 
previous years that not all the information on the mlb website always gets 
changed until the actual season starts.


-- 
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May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Feb 23, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:

> That is interesting. When I subscribed through iTunes first for my phone, I 
> was invited to connect to my MLB account. At that time, I was told that I 
> only had to pay one subscription. This information came from within the 
> application itself. Perhaps people should subscribe with their phone first 
> and then connect their MLB account and see what happens.
> 
> Bob Fenton
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-02-23, at 7:43 AM,  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I just paid for this year.  In the process I can confirm that paying for the 
>> audio on mlb.com works only for the computer and not the iphone.  The AtBat 
>> is paid through the appstore while the online audio is paid through the web 
>> site.  If you want to listen on your computer and on your phone you must pay 
>> both subscriptions. 
>>  
>> This explination applies to audio only.  I know nothing about the affect of 
>> mlbtv on this.
>>  
>> Ralph
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sean Paul
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 2:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>  
>> At this point, if you buy one, you get the other best I understand if you 
>> connect your MLB.com account with your Atbat app. If that's the way that I 
>> understood how it is working this year. I've had both for the last couple 
>> years. For the simple reason that I wanted archived games which I couldn't 
>> get in the at bat app. Hopefully my thinking & understanding is correct & 
>> I'll only have to pay once this year. - Original Message -
>> From: Daniel Miller
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 14:53
>> Subject: Re: atbat app update
>>  
>> Hello,
>>  
>> You can pay the subscription at any time, since the season starts today. As 
>> far as the new features being announced on opening day, we'll have to wait 
>> until after spring training for that. Also, if you have an Apple TV, you can 
>> use your mlb.com account if you buy MLB.TV premium to stream the games 
>> through that device as well as your portable iOS devices.
>>  
>> On Feb 22, 2013, at 1:49 PM, "Paul Ferrara"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> All, I saw the At Bat app had an update; it said new features available. Did 
>> anyone catch what those would be?
>> Also when can you pay the subscription for the audio?
>> Finally, is there any advantage at all to having an MLB.com account?
>>  
>> Thanks.
>>  
>> Paul
>>  
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>> Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6123 - Release Date: 02/22/13
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