Read to go?

2013-05-18 Thread daniel
 
 Hey guys! I am writing to ask about the book share read to go app.  I'm 
 wondering if it's possible to use voice over continuously without having to 
 hit the next page button when reading? Thanks

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Re: Read to go?

2013-05-18 Thread Chuck Dean
If you going to settings, visual, there's a switch display by page. Turn the 
switch off. Read to go will read continuously to the end of each chapter.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors. 

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 wondering if it's possible to use voice over continuously without having to 
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Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Bill Gallik
Thanks all for this unusual tidbit of info! I find that turning my iPhone 5 
on via the normal procedure can be irritatingly delaying and will use this 
unorthodox method whenever I have access to a charger now.


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sim card activation and setting up iphone 4 for overseas travel

2013-05-18 Thread Andrew Head
Hi all,
I heard that in order to set up an iphone, you have to have a working sim
card in it first. Just seeking clarification 
Is this true?
Kind regards,
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Re: sim card activation and setting up iphone 4 for overseas travel

2013-05-18 Thread David Chittenden
Yes. 

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 I heard that in order to set up an iphone, you have to have a working sim
 card in it first. Just seeking clarification 
 Is this true?
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Viber making or receiving calls

2013-05-18 Thread Chris H

Hello all
I plan to have a chat to a good friend on Viber over the weekend. Since 
this app is now accessible as far as I am concerned how has your 
experience been with making and receiving calls? When I enquired with 
Viber themselves they say that speakerphone isn't supported but they 
would look into it. But this was for an earlier version. I can get 
around this, however is VoiceOver active during a Viber call? Because if 
so, I will have to use headphones just so I don't accidentally do 
anything stupid to the phone.

Any comments will be greatly appreciated. Cheers!

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Re: new member

2013-05-18 Thread Mich

hi to ancer your question yes they do. from Mich.
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Subject: new member


Hi I have just recently joined the group.  Do the posts etc come directly 
to

my outlook express e mail client? Many thanks Kev

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RE: email rools,

2013-05-18 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hi dear:
Thanks os  much for that I made the rools, and I found the lable as a folder
on my iphone, but I found only messages that I sent there, how can I ask the
lable to be in the messages that I received?
I went to the gmail site, and I found 6 conversations   with my viphone
lable, but on my iphone, no
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: email rools,

Hi Ramy,

There are no folders in gmail other than the default folders like Inbox,
Starred, Sent Mail etc.
Anything else you create in order to sort emails is done via labels.
Creating a label is easy, just click on Edit Labels, then find the edit
field where you can type the new label name and then click Save.
Once you have a label, for example, Viphone, you then set up a filter. All
you have to do is find the Create Filter link.
Here you can choose to filter mail with a certain From address or a
certain subject. Then a number of actions are listed which you can perform.
One of these is to apply a certain label.
If you want all mail from the Viphone list to have the Viphone label, then
first put viphone@googlegroups.com in the From address, then click the
button Next Step.
On the next page check the checkbox Apply the label, then from the combo
box of available labels select the Viphone label and click Create
Filter.
That's it, now any emails coming from viphone@GoogleGroups.com will
automatically get the label Viphone which is equivalent to them being moved
into a Viphone folder.
As Raul pointed out, on the iPhone, the labels appear as folders provided
you have setup your gmail account correctly by having selected Gmail as
the account type.


Best regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: email rools,

I found it thanks so much
But I did the same steps but can not creat folders, just I can creat labels,
so how can I  creat folders and send this labled messages to that folder?

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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: email rools,

Hi, since you use gmail, this is going to be the best way to do what you
ask. Simply setup labels on the gmail site http://mail.google.com/mail/h and
then set up filters so that viphone messages or whatever are assigned the
proper label. Labels in gmail are like folders. You can make it so messages
to viphone skip the inbox and have the viphone label applied. The iPhone
sees labels from gmail as folders.

Hope that helps.

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On 11/25/2012 6:29 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote:


 HI all:

 As a matter of fact, I love my I phone day after day, and I decided to
read
 all my emails through it, but I have a problem now, on windows, 
 microsoft outlook is my life, because I'm in about 30 mailing lists, 
 and without the rools, I will  not be able to follow anything.

 So, is there a way or a program to creat message rools like on ms outlook?
 Thanks in advance
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RE: going to the 1st page in email, is it possible?

2013-05-18 Thread Ramy Moustafa
1 finger?

Yes it wokrs great but it's a new

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: going to the 1st page in email, is it possible?

 

Do a one finger double tap in the status bar. 

HTH,

Richard

(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)


On May 17, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Ramy Moustafa moshtaqlealga...@gmail.com
wrote:

HI all:gesture, really thanks

 

I'm reading an email with many pages, now I'm in the last page, and I need
to go to the 1st page, is there a way to do so?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Huffpost upgrade with reduced accessibility

2013-05-18 Thread Richard Turner
My sighted wife also hates the update. It is much harder to read.

Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

On May 17, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Tarapprakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all  i sent the following feedback. Feel free to add your voices. 
 
 I happened to upgrade to the new version and I am deeply disappointed. I am 
 blind and I use VoiceOver on iPhone to read text on screen. In the latest 
 version VoiceOver is unable to read the headline. What is a piece about is 
 revealed to a VoiceOver user only after clicking the image and accessing the 
 piece. The option of clicking only if the headline interests you no more 
 exists for VoiceOver user. Please email 
 to discuss the problem in more detail.  
 I
 hope you will take the concerns of the VoiceOver  users as seriously as you 
 do so many social issues. 
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 t device: iPhone3,1
 iOS version: 6.1.3
 App version: 4.1.1
 App edition: us
 Locale ID: en_US
 
 
 The information about your device is included for troubleshooting purposes. 
 Feel free to delete it before sending the e-mail if you'd like.
 
 
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Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Wendy Alling
This only happens with the iPhone 5.  When I got my phone I thought there was 
something wrong so I went to the apple store and found out that the phone was 
fine.  They found an article for me talking about the problem and apparently 
the problem was supposed to be addressed.  This only happens with the lightning 
connectors.  

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From: Cris Ali filasti...@hotmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5



 That is strange.  I have the 4S, but it does not turn on when I plug the 
 cord unless the cord is connected to a power source.  If the cord is not 
 connected to a power source, nothing happens.  May be I should try it when 
 the battery is near empty, not when it is fully charged.
 
 Cheers,
 
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 -Original Message- 
 From: Craig Werner
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5
 
 Thank you, Grant.  I wonder what the logic behind this odd behavior
 is.  Perhaps the unit turns on because it anticipates, so to speak,
 that the cable is about to be plugged into an electrical outlet, so it
 might as well use any remaining battery power to initiate the boot-up
 sequence.  Can you think of other plausible explanations?
 
 Craig
 
 On 5/17/13, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:
  The iPhone 5, 4 and 4S all work this way.
 
  Grant
 
  On 5/17/13, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello, everyone.
 
  I just purchased an iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS.  If the phone is
  turned off, I can turn it on by simply plugging the charging cable
  into the phone's port.  I don't have to press the on/off button, and
  I don't have to plug the other end of the charging cable into a power
  outlet.  Do other iPhone 5s work this way?  Needless to say, if I wish
  to run the phone on its battery, I use the traditional way of turning
  it on via the on/off button.
 
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Comparing Prizmo 2 and Text Grabber using the StandScan pro and a more complicated layout.

2013-05-18 Thread Sandratomkins
Hallo,

i hope I am not boring you all to death! However, with the latest 
incarnations of prizmo 2 and Text Grabber, I am looking to find their various 
strengths. Without a doubt, I still like the immediacy of the TG interface and 
often find it perfectly adequate to the task. However, when I tried a 
comparison shot taken from a magazine page, with 2 columns and with the added 
difficulty of a headline situated in the centre, displacing the text to either 
side, I discovered that Text Grabber got seriously confused and pplanted a 
sackfull of carots half way down each column. Whereas, Prizmo 2 did an 
excellent job! I can only deduce from this that Prizmo 2 still has the better, 
that is, more sophisticated, OCR engine. For letters etc, there is nothing to 
choose between them, but when you need more intelegent OCR functionality, I 
must say that prizmo 2 is the one to use.

Happy scanning, and here, as always, is an offering, this time from Prizmo 
2.

Temping in the city in my college holidays for me means three things: easy 
money, a relief from Cambridge stress and jobs which usually involve no more 
mental strain than thinking of what to wear the next day. Yet one night, 
sitting on the commuter coach, ploughing through the rush hour traffic, out of 
London and into

the suburbs, I began to wonder what temping meant for others.
I had noticed immediately that most of the temping agencies were staffed by 
women. These seemed to be wellpresented, attractive girls in their mid twenties 
with pleasant manners who dealt with temps as they applied for work.
There were rarely men doing
these jobs; instead, the male
members of staff seemed in
managerial positions or would go
out to companies in which temps
worked, in order to liaise with
clients. The majority of temps,
too, were women. They ranged
from twenty year old secretaries bored with their previous employment to forty 
year old mothers returning to work when children were of school age, but 
despite this variation they were predominantly assigned to low-scale clerical 
and secretarial positions. In most cases this meant that female temps were 
either directly or indirectly subordinate to men, thus reinforcing the office 
bimbo image of working women and the stereotypical image of the female temp.
What is even more damaging than this image is the reality of the temp's working 
situation. In a temporary assignment, unlike a permanent job, there is little 
room for promotion, so the women who temp are often left with little chance to 
develop their skills, even though these might already be quite substantial, l 
also came into contact with women who had excellent educational qualifications 
which were not utilised in their temping jobs. One girl l met, Natalia, temping 
while travelling, had an excellent university degree, yet was still placed in a 
low scale clerical position, subordinate to male supervisors with half her 
skill and intelligence. This was not the only type of discrimination. In one 
company l was assigned to, working in the share issues department of a large 
bank, there was a fairly even mix of male and female temps, mostly students.
Even on the job the male temps were placed in the more prestigious positions 
whereas the girls were confined to filing, sorting and coffee-making.
Thus I became aware that temping, and the practices associated with it, 
directly contributed to women's disadvantage in the workplace. Yet l noticed 
another side to temping, that is the positive aspects it gave women, which must 
not be overlooked.
Feminists have been eager to point out that the breaks women take from work, to 
have children disrupt their careers. However, women who temp are able to take a 
break from work whenever they feel. One such woman, Karen, was working for a 
few weeks while her husband was at home, looking after her baby. Thus, by 
temping she was saved from part- time work for little money or home work.

temptation -a look at office temping

The skills temps have are not easily devalued and aided by cross-training 
schemes at temping agencies women are quickly able to regain their confidence 
in the labour market.
This allows women who temp the freedom to work whenever they want, and although 
this may raise theoretical problems, in reality temping is ideal for women who 
want to work and spend time with their families.
I also noticed that temping is used by younger women to find suitable jobs for 
temporary assignments often become permanent. Temps are often freed from the 
nightmare of sexual harassment, being able to terminate jobs whenever they 
feel. Alternatively, if a temp likes a job she may apply for the permanent 
position. One temp I spoke to, Michaela, had left her previous unsatisfactory 
job and was one the verge of finding another which she preferred with the 
insurance agency for whom she was temping. I felt this gave women like Michaela 
more choice, yet, paradoxically, Michaela's job was one of the least 

Re: Comparing Prizmo 2 and Text Grabber using the StandScan pro and a more complicated layout.

2013-05-18 Thread Gabriel Battaglia (Kriyaban)

Sandra, just thanks for all of your jobs as reports, observations, suggestions 
and opinions you gave us.
Gabriel.

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Re: Comparing Prizmo 2 and Text Grabber using the StandScan pro and a more complicated layout.

2013-05-18 Thread Sandratomkins
Hey Gabriel!
Prego!

Sandy

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. Accessible App. Free. Words Inside

2013-05-18 Thread MamaPeach

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There's plenty of help available and the app includes a hint button. We’ve 
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In-app purchases can be disabled on your device in the parental settings 
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★ Themes to suit all interests and age groups
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RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Lois Butterfield
Okay, I wish I actually had a card.  I did try it and did manage to get to
an edit field.  I got to redeem, and went to where it said edit.  It wasn't
really an edit field though.  I then tabbed once, there it said edit, and I
entered into the edit field where I could type.  I don't know why it worked
though.  I am using jaws 14 and windows 7, 64 bit.

Good luck,
Lois


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:11 AM
To: ViPhone List
Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share 
this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are 
different then please let me know.

Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
or from the iDevice.

What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws. 
I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can 
correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I 
am with Window-Eyes.

1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.

2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.

3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.

4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.

The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where 
Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.

5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
password and press enter. So far, so good.

6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied to 
my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode where 
things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons work. 
The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
access keys.

7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With 
Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off 
and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I 
type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same, and 
I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off and I 
can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems that no 
matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They don't 
call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only pointing that 
out for those who use one screen reader or another that Browse Mode and 
Virtual Mode are basically the same thing.

Using Jaws, I press the numpad-plus key to see if this will say pc 
cursor, but no matter what I do it only says virtual pc cursor. I also 
tried pressing insert-z to stop using virtual mode, and again, nothing. 
I tried routing the jaws cursor, i.e. the mouse pointer, to the pc 
cursor location and see if I could do it that way, but again, nothing.

What got me started on this journey was 2 things. First, I saw a $100 
iTunes gift card on sale at Best Buy for $85. Second, a client also 
purchased this upon my recommendation. I use Window-Eyes and my client 
uses Jaws. My client is mostly comfortable with iTuens, but a few things 
are difficult. So, when he called me with this issue at first I thought 
he was doing something wrong, however if it's not working for me either, 
and so either this doesn't work as it should, or I'm also doing 
something wrong and would like to learn what so I can avoid this issue 
in the future.

I welcome ideas and suggestions on what I can try to make it possible to 
redeem iTunes gift cards using this similar type of setup.

Thanks all.

--
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I would have been here sooner but the bus kept stopping for other people 
to get on it. - Sheldon Cooper
Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

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Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello Lois, thanks for that. I'll go try that now and see if I get a 
second edit field. OK, I just did and nothing. However this time when I 
press enter on the single edit field I hear the Jaws tone indication I'm 
in forms mode. I also hear press insert-f1. I type a code in, but I 
can't review it with left and right arrows. This is some progress but 
still not very usable I think unless I'[m really missing something.


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Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical 
instruments in a sentence often goes undetected. - Sheldon Cooper

Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 5/18/2013 10:21 AM, Lois Butterfield wrote:

Okay, I wish I actually had a card.  I did try it and did manage to get to
an edit field.  I got to redeem, and went to where it said edit.  It wasn't
really an edit field though.  I then tabbed once, there it said edit, and I
entered into the edit field where I could type.  I don't know why it worked
though.  I am using jaws 14 and windows 7, 64 bit.

Good luck,
Lois


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:11 AM
To: ViPhone List
Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share
this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are
different then please let me know.

Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and
Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a
time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac
or from the iDevice.

What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using
Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do
things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can
correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I
am with Window-Eyes.

1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.

2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.

3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is
past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.

4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu
pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.

The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where
Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.

5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID
account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID
password and press enter. So far, so good.

6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied to
my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode where
things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons work.
The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick
access keys.

7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With
Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off
and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I
type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same, and
I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off and I
can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems that no
matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They don't
call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only pointing that
out for those who use one screen reader or another that Browse Mode and
Virtual Mode are basically the same thing.

Using Jaws, I press the numpad-plus key to see if this will say pc
cursor, but no matter what I do it only says virtual pc cursor. I also
tried pressing insert-z to stop using virtual mode, and again, nothing.
I tried routing the jaws cursor, i.e. the mouse pointer, to the pc
cursor location and see if I could do it that way, but again, nothing.

What got me started on this journey was 2 things. First, I saw a $100
iTunes gift card on sale at Best Buy for $85. Second, a client also
purchased this upon my recommendation. I use Window-Eyes and my client
uses Jaws. My client is mostly comfortable with iTuens, but a few things
are difficult. So, when he called me with this issue at first I thought
he was doing something wrong, however if it's not working for me either,
and so either this doesn't work as it should, or I'm also doing
something wrong and would like to learn what so I can avoid this issue
in the future.

I welcome ideas and suggestions on what I can try to make it possible to
redeem iTunes gift cards using this similar type of setup.

Thanks all.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
I would have been here sooner but the bus kept stopping for other 

RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Raul,

I'll pick up a card later and give it a try, only have $3 credit left
anyways and I actually now like to have credit for buying stuff instead of
having every 99 Cent purchase show up on my credit card.

One thing that comes to mind regarding entering the code once you manage to
get into the edit field is that I often prefer to type the code in something
like Notepad where I know I can review it and make sure it's correct, then
copy it to the clipboard which means I can simply paste it once I'm in the
right place. This way I know it's correct even if I can't review it.

Also, have you downloaded yesterday's iTunes update and the Jaws update from
2 or 3 days ago? They did fix the problem where you couldn't sync selected
Audio Books so maybe there are some other improvements and while I don't
remember Jaws saying anything about iTunes, using the latest update probably
won't hurt.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hello Lois, thanks for that. I'll go try that now and see if I get a second
edit field. OK, I just did and nothing. However this time when I press enter
on the single edit field I hear the Jaws tone indication I'm in forms mode.
I also hear press insert-f1. I type a code in, but I can't review it with
left and right arrows. This is some progress but still not very usable I
think unless I'[m really missing something.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
instruments in a sentence often goes undetected. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter
and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 5/18/2013 10:21 AM, Lois Butterfield wrote:
 Okay, I wish I actually had a card.  I did try it and did manage to 
 get to an edit field.  I got to redeem, and went to where it said 
 edit.  It wasn't really an edit field though.  I then tabbed once, 
 there it said edit, and I entered into the edit field where I could 
 type.  I don't know why it worked though.  I am using jaws 14 and windows
7, 64 bit.

 Good luck,
 Lois


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to 
 share this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If 
 they are different then please let me know.

 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.

 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys 
 can correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it 
 as I am with Window-Eyes.

 1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.

 2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.

 3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
 past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U,
ETC.

 4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
 pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.

 The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is 
 where Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.

 5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
 account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
 password and press enter. So far, so good.

 6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied 
 to my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode 
 where things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons
work.
 The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
 access keys.

 7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With 
 Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off 
 and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I 
 type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same, 
 and I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off 
 and I can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems 
 that no matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They 
 don't call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only 
 pointing that out for those who use one 

Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello Sieghard, I too use the copy and paste method from notepad for 
codes like this. However with Window-Eyes I am able to left and right 
arrow in the edit field so if I happen to type it manually I can review 
it. I haven't yet updated things from yesterday or this week. So, I'll 
give that a go and see if they are any different. I like your idea of 
using a gift card to fuel your purchases so small charges all over the 
place aren't seen. That sort of brings up a slightly different topic 
question. If you get a refund for an app which you purchased using your 
gift card balance, do they just credit that as if it was a credit card? 
I imagine they do, but thought I'd ask anyway.


Cheers.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Finally heading to the comic book store. My cardiovascular system is 
pumping with joy. =) - Sheldon Cooper

Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 5/18/2013 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Raul,

I'll pick up a card later and give it a try, only have $3 credit left
anyways and I actually now like to have credit for buying stuff instead of
having every 99 Cent purchase show up on my credit card.

One thing that comes to mind regarding entering the code once you manage to
get into the edit field is that I often prefer to type the code in something
like Notepad where I know I can review it and make sure it's correct, then
copy it to the clipboard which means I can simply paste it once I'm in the
right place. This way I know it's correct even if I can't review it.

Also, have you downloaded yesterday's iTunes update and the Jaws update from
2 or 3 days ago? They did fix the problem where you couldn't sync selected
Audio Books so maybe there are some other improvements and while I don't
remember Jaws saying anything about iTunes, using the latest update probably
won't hurt.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hello Lois, thanks for that. I'll go try that now and see if I get a second
edit field. OK, I just did and nothing. However this time when I press enter
on the single edit field I hear the Jaws tone indication I'm in forms mode.
I also hear press insert-f1. I type a code in, but I can't review it with
left and right arrows. This is some progress but still not very usable I
think unless I'[m really missing something.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Accordion to a recent survey, replacing words with the names of musical
instruments in a sentence often goes undetected. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter
and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 5/18/2013 10:21 AM, Lois Butterfield wrote:

Okay, I wish I actually had a card.  I did try it and did manage to
get to an edit field.  I got to redeem, and went to where it said
edit.  It wasn't really an edit field though.  I then tabbed once,
there it said edit, and I entered into the edit field where I could
type.  I don't know why it worked though.  I am using jaws 14 and windows

7, 64 bit.


Good luck,
Lois


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:11 AM
To: ViPhone List
Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to
share this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If
they are different then please let me know.

Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and
Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a
time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac
or from the iDevice.

What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using
Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do
things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys
can correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it
as I am with Window-Eyes.

1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.

2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.

3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is
past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U,

ETC.


4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu
pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.

The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is
where Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.

5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID
account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID
password and press enter. So far, so good.

6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the 

Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

I don't understand.  Plugging in the lightning connector doesn't make the phone 
boot any faster than holding down the power button for 2 seconds.

Ricardo Walker
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On May 18, 2013, at 3:23 AM, Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net wrote:

 Thanks all for this unusual tidbit of info! I find that turning my iPhone 5 
 on via the normal procedure can be irritatingly delaying and will use this 
 unorthodox method whenever I have access to a charger now.
 
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Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Why is this considered to be a problem?

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On May 18, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Wendy Alling wendall...@comcast.net wrote:

 This only happens with the iPhone 5.  When I got my phone I thought there was 
 something wrong so I went to the apple store and found out that the phone was 
 fine.  They found an article for me talking about the problem and apparently 
 the problem was supposed to be addressed.  This only happens with the 
 lightning connectors.  
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Cris Ali filasti...@hotmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:56 pm
 Subject: Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5
 
 
 
 That is strange.  I have the 4S, but it does not turn on when I plug the 
 cord unless the cord is connected to a power source.  If the cord is not 
 connected to a power source, nothing happens.  May be I should try it when 
 the battery is near empty, not when it is fully charged.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Cris
 
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 Blog: http://alkarmil.wordpress.com
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Craig Werner
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5
 
 Thank you, Grant.  I wonder what the logic behind this odd behavior
 is.  Perhaps the unit turns on because it anticipates, so to speak,
 that the cable is about to be plugged into an electrical outlet, so it
 might as well use any remaining battery power to initiate the boot-up
 sequence.  Can you think of other plausible explanations?
 
 Craig
 
 On 5/17/13, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The iPhone 5, 4 and 4S all work this way.
 
 Grant
 
 On 5/17/13, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, everyone.
 
 I just purchased an iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS.  If the phone is
 turned off, I can turn it on by simply plugging the charging cable
 into the phone's port.  I don't have to press the on/off button, and
 I don't have to plug the other end of the charging cable into a power
 outlet.  Do other iPhone 5s work this way?  Needless to say, if I wish
 to run the phone on its battery, I use the traditional way of turning
 it on via the on/off button.
 
 Thanks for all help.
 
 Craig
 
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Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I can also confirm that if my iPad mini is powered off, connecting 
the lightning plug to the iPad will power it on even if the other end of 
the plug isn't connected to anything. That is interesting for sure. Not 
a problem for me, but interesting nonetheless.


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RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Raul,

Sorry, never requested an app refund so I can't say, but I assume if the app
was bought using credit from a gift card that it would be put back as
credit. Most places refund using the same method that was used for the
purchase.

I also like the gift card option because it is not that hard to find a deal
like the one you describeif you watch out a bit. Last time I took advantage
of a Safeway promo where they offered $50 iTunes cards for $40, the best I
ever found was also from Safeway about a year ago when a $50 card was only
$37. I don't mind it at all if I get a 15% or 20% discount on everything I
buy!


Regards,
Sieghard


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RE: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Neal Ewers
I have the iPhone 5 with the latest firmware. When I plug in the lightning
connecter without the other end being plugged in, nothing happens. I wonder
if they changed this in the latest OS?

Neal


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Subject: Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

Hi, I can also confirm that if my iPad mini is powered off, connecting the
lightning plug to the iPad will power it on even if the other end of the
plug isn't connected to anything. That is interesting for sure. Not a
problem for me, but interesting nonetheless.

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Re: Braille Touch was Re: How do you'll type very long messages on your Iphone?

2013-05-18 Thread RobH!
It is good, most the time, I had a bit of flaky issue with it when out 
today.  But how?   please,   their web pages tells it all better, 
quicker and more thoroughly than on here; and it's been covered so often 
now,   just take a read of the user guide, it's all there and pretty 
straight forward, honest!

RobH.

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Subject: Braille Touch was Re: How do you'll type very long messages on your 
Iphone?


How does one use braille touch on a small iPhone screen? I've never heard of
this app and it sounds really promising.

Si

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Re: iTunes update 11.0.3.42 is available

2013-05-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I didn't poke into it any further, but the headlines for this update 
talked about improvements to the MiniPlayer.


On 05/17/2013 11:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello List,

I just received a notification that a new iTunes for Windows update,
version 11.0.3.42, is available.

I installed it and, if I remember correctly, wasn’t there an issue
before that made it impossible to sync selected Audio Books? Well, this
seems to be resolved unless of course yesterday’s Jaws update resolved
it, but I don’t recall reading that there was any iTunes fixes in that
version.

Best regards,

Sieghard

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Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Folks,

In the use of Fleksy, I needed to contact the developers and as a result, I 
received a refund as a credit to iTunes that I needed to redeem in the iTunes 
stores. It worked find and with no hitch.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi Raul,
 
 Sorry, never requested an app refund so I can't say, but I assume if the app
 was bought using credit from a gift card that it would be put back as
 credit. Most places refund using the same method that was used for the
 purchase.
 
 I also like the gift card option because it is not that hard to find a deal
 like the one you describeif you watch out a bit. Last time I took advantage
 of a Safeway promo where they offered $50 iTunes cards for $40, the best I
 ever found was also from Safeway about a year ago when a $50 card was only
 $37. I don't mind it at all if I get a 15% or 20% discount on everything I
 buy!
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
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Re: Prizmo.

2013-05-18 Thread Tom Lange

Hi,
All right, I can understand the licensing issues, sandboxing and all that; 
that happens on the PC as well.  If Apple will allow integration of apps 
like w and y pages with GPS apps, for example, it seems to me that it should 
be a fairly simple matter to share tts voices among reading apps so that 
users don't have to needlessly purchase tts voices over and over again.  But 
perhaps I'm comparing apples and oranges here, no pun intended.


Tom

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Subject: Re: Prizmo.


It's because of the way IOS sandboxes apps. You can't share resources such 
as TTS voices among apps.

Andy


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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Prizmo.

Hi,
I wondered about this myself.  Actually, the thing I don't quite 
understand

is why the Prizmo app couldn't recognize that I already have Heather and
Ryan on board for use with Read2Go, and, I think, Voice Dream, too.
Perhaps I just haven't set it up properly. Hmmm.

Tom

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Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Prizmo.


Hi Shirley,

   I don't, as yet, see the need to buy extra voices for Prizmo, so, might
I suggest that if you have some cash burning a hole in your pocket, you
spend it on Tex Grabber. The interface of TG is much simpler and even 
using
it free-hand, it is now much easier to use than of yore. Plus, TG will 
also

work well with your StandScan Pro when it arrives.

   Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

On 17 May 2013, at 05:06, Shirley Koda s...@dslextreme.com wrote:


I just got Prizmo.  It said something about buying voices from the App
Store.  Do I need to do this?



Shirley

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RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional within 
iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from differing 
comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's documentation  
comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is silent with respect to 
JAWS.

I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes more 
fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of a 
Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?

I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.

Keith

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Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share 
this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are 
different then please let me know.

Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
or from the iDevice.

What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws. 
I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can 
correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I 
am with Window-Eyes.

1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.

2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.

3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.

4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.

The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where 
Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.

5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
password and press enter. So far, so good.

6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied to 
my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode where 
things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons work. 
The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
access keys.

7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With 
Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off 
and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I 
type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same, and 
I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off and I 
can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems that no 
matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They don't 
call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only pointing that 
out for those who use one screen reader or another that Browse Mode and 
Virtual Mode are basically the same thing.

Using Jaws, I press the numpad-plus key to see if this will say pc 
cursor, but no matter what I do it only says virtual pc cursor. I also 
tried pressing insert-z to stop using virtual mode, and again, nothing. 
I tried routing the jaws cursor, i.e. the mouse pointer, to the pc 
cursor location and see if I could do it that way, but again, nothing.

What got me started on this journey was 2 things. First, I saw a $100 
iTunes gift card on sale at Best Buy for $85. Second, a client also 
purchased this upon my recommendation. I use Window-Eyes and my client 
uses Jaws. My client is mostly comfortable with iTuens, but a few things 
are difficult. So, when he called me with this issue at first I thought 
he was doing something wrong, however if it's not working for me either, 
and so either this doesn't work as it should, or I'm also doing 
something wrong and would like to learn what so I can avoid this issue 
in the future.

I welcome ideas and suggestions on what I can try to make it possible to 
redeem iTunes gift cards using this similar type of setup.

Thanks all.

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Re: Comparing Prizmo 2 and Text Grabber using the StandScan pro and a more complicated layout.

2013-05-18 Thread Tom Lange

Hi,
Sandra, that's good stuff.  Thanks for posting that one and for everything 
else that you post in this regard.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:36 AM
Subject: Comparing Prizmo 2 and Text Grabber using the StandScan pro and a 
more complicated layout.



Hallo,

   i hope I am not boring you all to death! However, with the latest 
incarnations of prizmo 2 and Text Grabber, I am looking to find their 
various strengths. Without a doubt, I still like the immediacy of the TG 
interface and often find it perfectly adequate to the task. However, when I 
tried a comparison shot taken from a magazine page, with 2 columns and with 
the added difficulty of a headline situated in the centre, displacing the 
text to either side, I discovered that Text Grabber got seriously confused 
and pplanted a sackfull of carots half way down each column. Whereas, Prizmo 
2 did an excellent job! I can only deduce from this that Prizmo 2 still has 
the better, that is, more sophisticated, OCR engine. For letters etc, there 
is nothing to choose between them, but when you need more intelegent OCR 
functionality, I must say that prizmo 2 is the one to use.


   Happy scanning, and here, as always, is an offering, this time from 
Prizmo 2.


Temping in the city in my college holidays for me means three things: easy 
money, a relief from Cambridge stress and jobs which usually involve no more 
mental strain than thinking of what to wear the next day. Yet one night, 
sitting on the commuter coach, ploughing through the rush hour traffic, out 
of London and into


the suburbs, I began to wonder what temping meant for others.
I had noticed immediately that most of the temping agencies were staffed by 
women. These seemed to be wellpresented, attractive girls in their mid 
twenties with pleasant manners who dealt with temps as they applied for 
work.

There were rarely men doing
these jobs; instead, the male
members of staff seemed in
managerial positions or would go
out to companies in which temps
worked, in order to liaise with
clients. The majority of temps,
too, were women. They ranged
from twenty year old secretaries bored with their previous employment to 
forty year old mothers returning to work when children were of school age, 
but despite this variation they were predominantly assigned to low-scale 
clerical and secretarial positions. In most cases this meant that female 
temps were either directly or indirectly subordinate to men, thus 
reinforcing the office bimbo image of working women and the stereotypical 
image of the female temp.
What is even more damaging than this image is the reality of the temp's 
working situation. In a temporary assignment, unlike a permanent job, there 
is little room for promotion, so the women who temp are often left with 
little chance to develop their skills, even though these might already be 
quite substantial, l also came into contact with women who had excellent 
educational qualifications which were not utilised in their temping jobs. 
One girl l met, Natalia, temping while travelling, had an excellent 
university degree, yet was still placed in a low scale clerical position, 
subordinate to male supervisors with half her skill and intelligence. This 
was not the only type of discrimination. In one company l was assigned to, 
working in the share issues department of a large bank, there was a fairly 
even mix of male and female temps, mostly students.
Even on the job the male temps were placed in the more prestigious 
positions whereas the girls were confined to filing, sorting and 
coffee-making.
Thus I became aware that temping, and the practices associated with it, 
directly contributed to women's disadvantage in the workplace. Yet l noticed 
another side to temping, that is the positive aspects it gave women, which 
must not be overlooked.
Feminists have been eager to point out that the breaks women take from work, 
to have children disrupt their careers. However, women who temp are able to 
take a break from work whenever they feel. One such woman, Karen, was 
working for a few weeks while her husband was at home, looking after her 
baby. Thus, by temping she was saved from part- time work for little money 
or home work.


temptation -a look at office temping

The skills temps have are not easily devalued and aided by cross-training 
schemes at temping agencies women are quickly able to regain their 
confidence in the labour market.
This allows women who temp the freedom to work whenever they want, and 
although this may raise theoretical problems, in reality temping is ideal 
for women who want to work and spend time with their families.
I also noticed that temping is used by younger women to find suitable jobs 
for temporary assignments often become permanent. Temps are often freed from 
the nightmare of sexual harassment, being able to terminate jobs whenever 
they 

Re: Comparing Prizmo 2 and Text Grabber using the StandScan pro and a more complicated layout.

2013-05-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Sandy  others,

I found that 3/8 inch velcro hook portion make good tactile markers to line up 
the phone on top with aperture of the StandScan Pro. This way the phone stays 
in place and I have use of 2 hands. I am able to use 1 hand to flatten the 
written materials and take the picture with other. It was suggested a while 
back when I reviewing another camera OCR to use small weights at the corners 
ohr at spine of a book to flatten the pages when scanning 2 pages at once. Just 
my two sense.

Eileenp

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2013, at 4:36 AM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hallo,
 
i hope I am not boring you all to death! However, with the latest 
 incarnations of prizmo 2 and Text Grabber, I am looking to find their various 
 strengths. Without a doubt, I still like the immediacy of the TG interface 
 and often find it perfectly adequate to the task. However, when I tried a 
 comparison shot taken from a magazine page, with 2 columns and with the added 
 difficulty of a headline situated in the centre, displacing the text to 
 either side, I discovered that Text Grabber got seriously confused and 
 pplanted a sackfull of carots half way down each column. Whereas, Prizmo 2 
 did an excellent job! I can only deduce from this that Prizmo 2 still has the 
 better, that is, more sophisticated, OCR engine. For letters etc, there is 
 nothing to choose between them, but when you need more intelegent OCR 
 functionality, I must say that prizmo 2 is the one to use.
 
Happy scanning, and here, as always, is an offering, this time from Prizmo 
 2.
 
 Temping in the city in my college holidays for me means three things: easy 
 money, a relief from Cambridge stress and jobs which usually involve no more 
 mental strain than thinking of what to wear the next day. Yet one night, 
 sitting on the commuter coach, ploughing through the rush hour traffic, out 
 of London and into
 
 the suburbs, I began to wonder what temping meant for others.
 I had noticed immediately that most of the temping agencies were staffed by 
 women. These seemed to be wellpresented, attractive girls in their mid 
 twenties with pleasant manners who dealt with temps as they applied for work.
 There were rarely men doing
 these jobs; instead, the male
 members of staff seemed in
 managerial positions or would go
 out to companies in which temps
 worked, in order to liaise with
 clients. The majority of temps,
 too, were women. They ranged
 from twenty year old secretaries bored with their previous employment to 
 forty year old mothers returning to work when children were of school age, 
 but despite this variation they were predominantly assigned to low-scale 
 clerical and secretarial positions. In most cases this meant that female 
 temps were either directly or indirectly subordinate to men, thus reinforcing 
 the office bimbo image of working women and the stereotypical image of the 
 female temp.
 What is even more damaging than this image is the reality of the temp's 
 working situation. In a temporary assignment, unlike a permanent job, there 
 is little room for promotion, so the women who temp are often left with 
 little chance to develop their skills, even though these might already be 
 quite substantial, l also came into contact with women who had excellent 
 educational qualifications which were not utilised in their temping jobs. One 
 girl l met, Natalia, temping while travelling, had an excellent university 
 degree, yet was still placed in a low scale clerical position, subordinate to 
 male supervisors with half her skill and intelligence. This was not the only 
 type of discrimination. In one company l was assigned to, working in the 
 share issues department of a large bank, there was a fairly even mix of male 
 and female temps, mostly students.
 Even on the job the male temps were placed in the more prestigious 
 positions whereas the girls were confined to filing, sorting and 
 coffee-making.
 Thus I became aware that temping, and the practices associated with it, 
 directly contributed to women's disadvantage in the workplace. Yet l noticed 
 another side to temping, that is the positive aspects it gave women, which 
 must not be overlooked.
 Feminists have been eager to point out that the breaks women take from work, 
 to have children disrupt their careers. However, women who temp are able to 
 take a break from work whenever they feel. One such woman, Karen, was working 
 for a few weeks while her husband was at home, looking after her baby. Thus, 
 by temping she was saved from part- time work for little money or home work.
 
 temptation -a look at office temping
 
 The skills temps have are not easily devalued and aided by cross-training 
 schemes at temping agencies women are quickly able to regain their confidence 
 in the labour market.
 This allows women who temp the freedom to work whenever they want, and 
 although this may raise theoretical problems, in reality 

Re: sim card activation and setting up iphone 4 for overseas travel

2013-05-18 Thread Cris Ali
Yes.  You need an active sim when you setup your new iPhone.  Once you go 
overseas, you only switch cards, you do not set it up again.  So, if you are 
sending an iPhone as a gift for someone overseas, you can set it up using 
your active sim card.  Overseas, they can just switch to another sim card or 
even use the iPhone as an iPod, with no card at all if they so wish.


Cris

Twitter: http://twitter.com/JerusalemBoy
Blog: http://alkarmil.wordpress.com

-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Head

Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:57 AM
To: blind iphone list
Subject: sim card activation and setting up iphone 4 for overseas travel

Hi all,
I heard that in order to set up an iphone, you have to have a working sim
card in it first. Just seeking clarification
Is this true?
Kind regards,
Andrew

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Re: Huffpost upgrade with reduced accessibility

2013-05-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Richard,
I'm glad I didn't get updating happy. The Hmf Post is still sitting in the app 
store with several others that have been broken with the current updates. I'm 
glad I didn't do it yet. Maybe in the next update it will be fixed 

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2013, at 4:01 AM, Richard Turner richard.turne...@gmail.com wrote:

 My sighted wife also hates the update. It is much harder to read.
 
 Richard
 (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
 
 On May 17, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Tarapprakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear all  i sent the following feedback. Feel free to add your voices. 
 
 I happened to upgrade to the new version and I am deeply disappointed. I am 
 blind and I use VoiceOver on iPhone to read text on screen. In the latest 
 version VoiceOver is unable to read the headline. What is a piece about is 
 revealed to a VoiceOver user only after clicking the image and accessing the 
 piece. The option of clicking only if the headline interests you no more 
 exists for VoiceOver user. Please email 
 to discuss the problem in more detail.  
 I
 hope you will take the concerns of the VoiceOver  users as seriously as you 
 do so many social issues. 
 ---
 best regards 
 Tara tripathi
 t device: iPhone3,1
 iOS version: 6.1.3
 App version: 4.1.1
 App edition: us
 Locale ID: en_US
 
 
 The information about your device is included for troubleshooting purposes. 
 Feel free to delete it before sending the e-mail if you'd like.
 
 
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Millitalk

2013-05-18 Thread Chris H
This looks a great, simple to use app. Now I want to log into my account 
on the Pc but I can't. I signed up using my Facebook credentials, is 
this why? I thought it was more convenient than creating my own account. 
The reason I want to sign into the Pc is so I can try and get a Uk based 
rather than a Us based number.

Any help welcome. Thanks!

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Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Arianna
That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their 
products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway? If 
you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible using 
any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal methods?


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional within 
 iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from differing 
 comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's documentation  
 comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is silent with respect 
 to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes more 
 fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of a 
 Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share 
 this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are 
 different then please let me know.
 
 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.
 
 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.
 
 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws. 
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can 
 correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I 
 am with Window-Eyes.
 
 1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.
 
 2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.
 
 3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
 past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.
 
 4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
 pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.
 
 The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where 
 Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.
 
 5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
 account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
 password and press enter. So far, so good.
 
 6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied to 
 my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode where 
 things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons work. 
 The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
 access keys.
 
 7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With 
 Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off 
 and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I 
 type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same, and 
 I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off and I 
 can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems that no 
 matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They don't 
 call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only pointing that 
 out for those who use one screen reader or another that Browse Mode and 
 Virtual Mode are basically the same thing.
 
 Using Jaws, I press the numpad-plus key to see if this will say pc 
 cursor, but no matter what I do it only says virtual pc cursor. I also 
 tried pressing insert-z to stop using virtual mode, and again, nothing. 
 I tried routing the jaws cursor, i.e. the mouse pointer, to the pc 
 cursor location and see if I could do it that way, but again, nothing.
 
 What got me started on this journey was 2 things. First, I saw a $100 
 iTunes gift card on sale at Best Buy for $85. Second, a client also 
 purchased this upon my recommendation. I use Window-Eyes and my client 
 uses Jaws. My client is mostly comfortable with iTuens, but a few things 
 are difficult. So, when he called me with this issue at first I thought 
 he was doing something wrong, however if it's not working for me either, 
 and so either this doesn't work as it should, or I'm also doing 
 something wrong and would like to learn what so I can avoid this issue 
 in the future.
 
 I welcome ideas and suggestions on what I can try to make it possible to 
 redeem iTunes gift cards using this 

RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Arianna and Keith,

I can't speak for Window Eyes, but I don't think there is much that one
can't do with Jaws in iTunes. Take the example of not being able to sync
selected audio books, for example, if I am not mistaken that affected
Windo-Eyes and NVDA users just the same and as of yesterday's iTunes update
that is fixed. I mean no disrespect to anybody, but I think in more
situations the problem is that people have not yet learned to navigate
effectively whether it is in iTunes or on the internet with whichever
browser one uses.

One example, somebody quite a while back mentioned that it is not possible
to copy the serial number of your iPhone in iTunes using Jaws. So, I went
into iTunes, placed Jaws into the field where the serial number is displayed
and pressed Control+C. Jaws said Nothing Selected and when I then went
into Notepad and did a Control+V to paste it nothing happened. So, I went
back and did a Control+A (select all) first, then a Control+C, once again
Jaws said Nothing selected and nothing was pasted into Notepad. Then I
went back again, did an Insert+3 for the Pass Key Through command. I
then did a Control+C and bingo, the serial number was copied to the
clipboard just fine and I was able to paste it. The pass key through command
has been in Jaws for so long that I don't even remember, probably since day
1 and it's a basic keystroke that is often useful, yet I think a lot of
people don't know about it or forget that it can come in handy.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arianna
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their
products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway?
If you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible
using any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal
methods?


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional
within iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from
differing comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's
documentation  comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is
silent with respect to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes
more fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of
a Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to 
 share this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If 
 they are different then please let me know.
 
 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.
 
 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.
 
 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys 
 can correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it 
 as I am with Window-Eyes.
 
 1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.
 
 2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.
 
 3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
 past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U,
ETC.
 
 4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
 pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.
 
 The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is 
 where Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.
 
 5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
 account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
 password and press enter. So far, so good.
 
 6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied 
 to my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode 
 where things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons
work.
 The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
 access keys.
 
 7. I tab to the edit field where I am 

Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Craig Werner
Ricardo, just a clarification:  This behavior doesn't constitute a
problem.  It's just quite unexpected, and I wondered if I had a
defective iPhone or a bad cable.  I don't know if this oddity is
present in some firmware revisions and not in others.  I'm using iOS
6.1.4.

Craig

On 5/18/13, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Why is this considered to be a problem?

 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info

 On May 18, 2013, at 7:11 AM, Wendy Alling wendall...@comcast.net wrote:

 This only happens with the iPhone 5.  When I got my phone I thought there
 was something wrong so I went to the apple store and found out that the
 phone was fine.  They found an article for me talking about the problem
 and apparently the problem was supposed to be addressed.  This only
 happens with the lightning connectors.

 - Original Message -
 From: Cris Ali filasti...@hotmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:56 pm
 Subject: Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5



 That is strange.  I have the 4S, but it does not turn on when I plug the

 cord unless the cord is connected to a power source.  If the cord is not

 connected to a power source, nothing happens.  May be I should try it
 when
 the battery is near empty, not when it is fully charged.

 Cheers,

 Cris

 Twitter: http://JerusalemBoy
 Blog: http://alkarmil.wordpress.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Craig Werner
 Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

 Thank you, Grant.  I wonder what the logic behind this odd behavior
 is.  Perhaps the unit turns on because it anticipates, so to speak,
 that the cable is about to be plugged into an electrical outlet, so it
 might as well use any remaining battery power to initiate the boot-up
 sequence.  Can you think of other plausible explanations?

 Craig

 On 5/17/13, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The iPhone 5, 4 and 4S all work this way.

 Grant

 On 5/17/13, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, everyone.

 I just purchased an iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS.  If the phone is
 turned off, I can turn it on by simply plugging the charging cable
 into the phone's port.  I don't have to press the on/off button, and
 I don't have to plug the other end of the charging cable into a power
 outlet.  Do other iPhone 5s work this way?  Needless to say, if I wish
 to run the phone on its battery, I use the traditional way of turning
 it on via the on/off button.

 Thanks for all help.

 Craig

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Distribution Lists

2013-05-18 Thread Joe
Hello,

 

I synchronize my contacts in Outlook 2010 with Google Contacts. They appear
just fine in my iPhone, but I do not see my distribution lists, only the
individual contacts. Is this a Google issue, or an iPhone one? If the
latter, any ideas on an app that will help import distribution lists as
well? Thanks in advance.

 

Joe

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Physically Securing iPads

2013-05-18 Thread Joe
Hi again,

 

At work iPads are allowed in the building but not in the workspace. We have
to leave them in the hallways, and unfortunately they are not secure there.
Is there a kind of Kensington lock for iPads or something alternative to
provide a physical lockdown for the tablet? Thanks in advance.

 

Joe

 

 

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Upgrading A Jailbroken iPhone Without Locking It

2013-05-18 Thread BBS
Hi guys. Perhaps someone with a jailbroken iPhone can answer this. Is 
there a way to upgrade a jailbroken iPhone and still have it unlocked? 
The reason why I'm asking this is last week I got an iPhone 3GS but the 
only problem with it was that it was originally a Rogers phone. So I 
went to a store that specializes in unlocking iPhones but I didn't 
realize their method of unlocking the phone was to first downgrade it 
to iOS4.1 and then jailbreak it. I want to upgrade to at least iOS5 but 
I don't want to go through the process of unlocking it again. Is there 
a way to do this without having to unlock the phone again?


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Re: Huffpost upgrade with reduced accessibility

2013-05-18 Thread Kevin Gibbs
I was just going to comment on the fact that the HuffingtonPost is no longer 
accessible. I've had exactly the same problem that the original poster 
describes. I'm glad to hear it isn't just me. Hopefully, the next update will 
fix this. Although ,there has been one subsequent update do with this app and 
no fix so far.

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Re: Upgrading A Jailbroken iPhone Without Locking It

2013-05-18 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

There is potentially a way. If you go into settings  general  about,
what are the third, forth and fifth digits of the serial number? Also,
what number do you see for modem firmware?

This process is rather complicated and it is entirely possible that
you may brick your device doing it.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 5/18/13, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys. Perhaps someone with a jailbroken iPhone can answer this. Is
 there a way to upgrade a jailbroken iPhone and still have it unlocked?
 The reason why I'm asking this is last week I got an iPhone 3GS but the
 only problem with it was that it was originally a Rogers phone. So I
 went to a store that specializes in unlocking iPhones but I didn't
 realize their method of unlocking the phone was to first downgrade it
 to iOS4.1 and then jailbreak it. I want to upgrade to at least iOS5 but
 I don't want to go through the process of unlocking it again. Is there
 a way to do this without having to unlock the phone again?

 --
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Re: iNet Pro app for scanning your network [was Re: anyone is hacking my internet?]

2013-05-18 Thread Sherrie

I downloaded the free version and it works very well.

-Original Message- 
From: Esther

Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:03 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: iNet Pro app for scanning your network [was Re: anyone is hacking 
my internet?]


Hi Ramy,

Sieghard has already answered your first question about how you can
check the speed of your internet  connection by using the free
Speedtest.net app from Ookla:
• Speedtest.net Mobile Speed Test (free) by Ookla
https://itunes.apple.com/app/speedtest.net-mobile-speed/id300704847?mt=8

The best app I've found for doing a network scan for devices that are
on the same network as your iPhone (or iPod Touch or iPad) is iNet Pro
by BananaGlue GmbH:
• iNet Pro - Network scanner ($6.99) by BananaGlue GmbH
https://itunes.apple.com/app/inet-pro-network-scanner/id305242949?mt=8
I've had this app for 3 years, and it's very accessible, as well as
consistently being rated among the top apps in this category.  There
is an unlabeled button that takes you to the About screen.  (I don't
know why so many apps that have all the other buttons labeled have one
Info button that is not labeled, but this is fairly common).  This
page has the information about the version number, and buttons to let
you email the developers or visit their web site, but it also has an
About view help button large button that lets you access complete
help information about the app.  Apart from this, in general just
double tap on Network Scanner, which is the first entry on the main
iNet screen, to go to the Network Scanner screen. By default, this
displays the results of your last scan. You can simply run a new scan
by double tapping the rescan button in the bottom right corner of
the screen.  You'll get a list of the devices found in a scan of your
current network.  It will identify the devices by model for both Apple
and Windows products (e.g. iPhone, iPad, HP printer, MacBook) along
with the Gateway, and give the MAC addresses of the device and the IP
addresses on the network. Double tapping on any entry will give you
more detailed information.  For example, you can tell whether a host
is visible or hidden -- whether it replies to a ping.   Although the
first entry says button, if you flick right you'll get the
information Hosts in scan (and a number of devices), and how long
ago the scan was run, which is the information associated with that
button.  I think the reason it can't go into a button label is that
the time is dynamically updated with the screen refresh. Double
tapping that button gives summary information on the number of hosts
found in the network (duplicating the information on the previous
page), and will also tell you the time of the earliest previous scan
while connected to this network.

I don't usually access this unlabeled.  One more tip: you can mail the
results of a scan, save a scan and assign it a name, access a history
of recent scans (listed by date and time), and access your scan
settings to extend the scan range (which I never do).  These options
can be accessed by double tapping the Drop down menu button in the
top right corner, but they can also be accessed by double tapping the
Network Scanner screen heading, at the top center, which is also
announced as a button.  Double tapping the Network Scanner heading
at the top center of the screen, that is also a button, is actually
easier to do, because a four-finger tap in the top half of the screen
to move to the first element on the screen will actually move your
focus to this button -- and not to the Back button in the top left
corner. I mean that if you drag your finger from the top left corner
of the screen across the top of the screen, you'll hear Back button
in the top left corner, Network Scanner button in the top center,
and Drop down menu button in the top right corner, but if you do a
Read all of the page, or a flick from the first element of the page,
you'll hear the order announced as Network Scanner button (in the
top center), Back button (top left corner), and Drop down menu
button (top right corner). Because the screen refreshes when the menu
drops down from the top center, after double tapping either the Drop
down menu button or the Network Scanner button you want to touch
the top center of the screen.  I double tap the Network Scanner
button, and then stroke down with my finger from the top center of the
screen.  Once you hear any of the drop down options announced, you can
flick through the rest.  These are: Mail scan results, Save scan,
Open scan and Scan settings.  To dismiss the menu without choosing
an action, flick left back to the Drop down menu button and double
tap again.

There is also a standard version of the iNet - Network Scanner app
that is free (used to be $0.99), that you can try out first.  I
suspect that you will want the iNet Pro options of scanning results
for your case, but I'll also give you the link to the standard
version.  You can update to the Pro version by in-app purchase:
• iNet - 

Re: Huffpost upgrade with reduced accessibility

2013-05-18 Thread Kevin Gibbs
I forgot one other thing. I can't figure out how one saves an article as a 
favorite with this new upgrade.

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Re: whom can i contact in apple concerning payment?

2013-05-18 Thread Sherrie
whom can i contact in apple concerning payment?I find it easier to use an 
iTunes gift card for the iTunes store instead of my credit card.  I feel a lot 
safer, too, since if the account was compromised i would not be out much. When 
I first got my iPhone I put in the credit card number but when I got iTunes 
cards for Christmas I switched.  Now when one gift card is used up I buy 
another.

Just a thought.
Sherrie


From: Ramy Moustafa 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 4:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: whom can i contact in apple concerning payment?

Hi all:


I have a very strange issue in my iphone, when I buy a program, I must wait at 
least 2 days until my payment is accepted to begin downloading even free aps., 
I get a message that my account has been declined, but my veeza has recharge, 
and I don’t know whom can I contact for this issue.

Thanks


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A problem with The RII 66-key Mini Bluetooth Keyboard.

2013-05-18 Thread Ahmed Khater

Hi all,

I've recently purchased the RII 66-key Mini Bluetooth Keyboard for iPhone, PC, Mac and Android  from A T Guys.  When I started using 
it, I discovered that many of the Voice Over keys described in the blog post found at: http://www.hllf.net/70 don't work both in the 
Quick Navigation mode on and off.  The document which described and summarized these shortcuts stated that they are originally for 
IOS 4.1.  Are there any new shortcuts for IOS 6?


Otherwise, Is there any work-around for my problem with this keyboard?

Thank you for your help.





Best Regards





Ahmed Khater





aakha...@gmail.com





It's always hope that gives meaning to life


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voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Robert Doc Wright
How do you delete any of the messages?
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread janet smith

and is this ap free?



*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
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From: Robert Doc Wright

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voicebook

   How do you delete any of the messages?
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Donna

Hi Craig  All,

Uhhh Duh!!! (slapping myself in the head!) After giving your original 
message some thought, I realized that you used the term turn on my iPhone, 
not unlock. So I completely turned off my iPhone and inserted the charging 
cable just into the iPhone without it being plugged into the wall outlet. 
Waala, the iPhone did immediately come on! I then turned off my iPhone 
completely and tried turning it back on using the on/off button. The Iphone 
does come on a bit faster when using the charger than just using the on/off 
button, but only by less than a minute.  I have an iPhone5  with 6.1.2. I do 
find this to be strange, but I can't see how this would affect how the 
iPhone operates or could pose a problem.But then again, who knows?


Donna


Hello, everyone.

I just purchased an iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS.  If the phone is
turned off, I can turn it on by simply plugging the charging cable
into the phone's port.  I don't have to press the on/off button, and
I don't have to plug the other end of the charging cable into a power
outlet.  Do other iPhone 5s work this way?  Needless to say, if I wish
to run the phone on its battery, I use the traditional way of turning
it on via the on/off button.

Thanks for all help.

Craig

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Re: Distribution Lists

2013-05-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't use Outlook, but with the plug in I use in Thunderbird, only the 
Personal address book in Google Contacts gets synced. Actually, I can 
configure this in my plug in between Thunderbird and Google Contacts, 
but I haven't done this since I don't care to have my other address 
books synced. As far as between Google Contacts and the iPhone, maybe 
only the Personal Address Book is synced. Maybe you can try to move the 
contact for your distribution list into Google Contacts Personal Address 
Book. Hmm, I just realized you may be talking about distribution lists 
you've created in Outlook, and if so, I wouldn't have any idea on this. 
Sorry, this wasn't more helpful. I was hoping I could give you some 
things to think about before others weighed in on this, but I doubt I 
did even that. Good luck.


On 05/18/2013 03:30 PM, Joe wrote:

Hello,

I synchronize my contacts in Outlook 2010 with Google Contacts. They
appear just fine in my iPhone, but I do not see my distribution lists,
only the individual contacts. Is this a Google issue, or an iPhone one?
If the latter, any ideas on an app that will help import distribution
lists as well? Thanks in advance.

Joe

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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Lelia Struve
No, this app is not free, and you don't have to delete the messages, it 
efreshes. and yay I did exactly what Ben said and it works.


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RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sieghard,

Are you suggesting Raul try the insert + 3 key combination in JAWS?

You're correct in that I have not heard of this before (but I appreciate 
learning of it now), and, perhaps, I missed Jonathan Mosen's discussion of it 
in his FS Casts. Do you remember about where he discusses this in any of his 4 
podcast on JAWS and iTunes. I'm most eager to hone in on this as I'm sure it 
will be most helpful to me to go back and study this section in depth.

I appreciate the help.

Best, Keith

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi Arianna and Keith,

I can't speak for Window Eyes, but I don't think there is much that one
can't do with Jaws in iTunes. Take the example of not being able to sync
selected audio books, for example, if I am not mistaken that affected
Windo-Eyes and NVDA users just the same and as of yesterday's iTunes update
that is fixed. I mean no disrespect to anybody, but I think in more
situations the problem is that people have not yet learned to navigate 
effectively whether it is in iTunes or on the internet with whichever
browser one uses.

One example, somebody quite a while back mentioned that it is not possible
to copy the serial number of your iPhone in iTunes using Jaws. So, I went
into iTunes, placed Jaws into the field where the serial number is displayed
and pressed Control+C. Jaws said Nothing Selected and when I then went
into Notepad and did a Control+V to paste it nothing happened. So, I went
back and did a Control+A (select all) first, then a Control+C, once again
Jaws said Nothing selected and nothing was pasted into Notepad. Then I
went back again, did an Insert+3 for the Pass Key Through command. I
then did a Control+C and bingo, the serial number was copied to the
clipboard just fine and I was able to paste it. The pass key through command
has been in Jaws for so long that I don't even remember, probably since day
1 and it's a basic keystroke that is often useful, yet I think a lot of
people don't know about it or forget that it can come in handy.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their
products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway?
If you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible
using any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal
methods?


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional
within iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from
differing comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's
documentation  comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is
silent with respect to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes
more fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of
a Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to 
 share this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If 
 they are different then please let me know.
 
 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.
 
 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.
 
 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys 
 can correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it 
 as I am with Window-Eyes.
 
 1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.
 
 2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.
 
 3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
 past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U,
ETC.
 
 4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a 

Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Maria Joe Chapman
I still can't get it to work.  What did u guys do to fix it?  I just get a 
message saying the app cannot make contact with facebook.


regards
Maria and crew from australia
email:
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check out 
www.95-the-mix.com
where we play lots of great music




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 No, this app is not free, and you don't have to delete the messages, it 
 efreshes. and yay I did exactly what Ben said and it works.
 
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using magic jack on an iPhone question.

2013-05-18 Thread Fred Olver
How does one disconnect when using this app?

Fred Olver

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Root user issue

2013-05-18 Thread Richard Ring
Although one can accomplish most anything that is truly necessary on the Mac as 
an administrative user, in order to fully appreciate the difference between an 
administrative user and a root user, I have enabled the root user. 
Unfortunately, when I log in as the root user, I cannot turn VoiceOver on with 
command f5 as I might expect. When I issue this command, I continue to have a 
silent computer.
Any ideas as to what might be causing this problem would be greatly appreciated.


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Lelia Struve
here is what you do, first, uninstall voicebook, second, Log on to 
facebook either via computer or iPhone,  did it on my computer, go into 
settings and where your apps are, remove voicebook from your apps, then 
reinstall voicebook again, and go through the user stuff, after this 
launch it a few times and it will give you errors still but when it 
does, do this, go into your app switcher, get rid of your voicebook and 
facebook that will be in your app switcher.  launch voicebook again and 
it should work.  Give it a chance, be patient.


Hope that works for you.

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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Lelia Struve

Janet, honestly I got it a long time ago so I can't remember, sorry.

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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread janet smith

its ok



*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
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Janet, honestly I got it a long time ago so I can't remember, sorry.

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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Maria Joe Chapman
HI.  thanks will give it a try 

might save this message for future reference.


Maria Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com

The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - 
Mahatma Gandhi

On 19/05/2013, at 8:50 AM, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:

 here is what you do, first, uninstall voicebook, second, Log on to facebook 
 either via computer or iPhone,  did it on my computer, go into settings and 
 where your apps are, remove voicebook from your apps, then reinstall 
 voicebook again, and go through the user stuff, after this launch it a few 
 times and it will give you errors still but when it does, do this, go into 
 your app switcher, get rid of your voicebook and facebook that will be in 
 your app switcher.  launch voicebook again and it should work.  Give it a 
 chance, be patient.
 
 Hope that works for you.
 
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iPad tutorial

2013-05-18 Thread Nancy Shackelford
A friend is looking for an iPad tutorial. I don't have one, 
since I have not yet purchased an Apple product. Any help appreciated!

Nance

Nancy Shackelford
Walk On Faith  Trust In Love - Michael Reed

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Training Questions

2013-05-18 Thread Noe Villeda
I realize this is off topic, sorry about that, I'm looking for a list member 
named Rashawn Jones from Atlanta who does computer training.
I apologize for butchering your name, would you please contact me off list at:

noevill...@verizon.net

Thanks.

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RE: Text grabber

2013-05-18 Thread shoshana hathaway
Hi,  is the translator fairly accurate?  I ask, since most aren't, and an
accurate translation feature would interest me, and incline me toward this
APP.

Thanks,
Shoshana, trying not to trip over any guidewires (oops, make that *lines*
guidelines!

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Re: An Unusual Way to Turn on the iPhone 5

2013-05-18 Thread Anthony Vece
And, when there is a.c. power connected, the phone will vibrate twice while the 
phone is powering up.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5!

On May 17, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com wrote:

 The iPhone 5, 4 and 4S all work this way.
 
 Grant
 
 On 5/17/13, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello, everyone.
 
 I just purchased an iPhone 5 to replace my 3GS.  If the phone is
 turned off, I can turn it on by simply plugging the charging cable
 into the phone's port.  I don't have to press the on/off button, and
 I don't have to plug the other end of the charging cable into a power
 outlet.  Do other iPhone 5s work this way?  Needless to say, if I wish
 to run the phone on its battery, I use the traditional way of turning
 it on via the on/off button.
 
 Thanks for all help.
 
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RE: channel lineup?

2013-05-18 Thread Shirley Koda
You can get it through NFB Newsline.

Shirley

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Subject: channel lineup?

does anyone know how to get there hands on a direct TV channel lineup?  I
have looked on there website, and found nothing.  Thanks,

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Re: using magic jack on an iPhone question.

2013-05-18 Thread Regina Alvarado
Fred:
Maybe someone has a better way, but only way I have found is to first bring the 
phone from your ear and in the lower left corner with a swiping movement with 
one finger search just in that corner until you hear end. Double tap. That 
hangs up. If you need to hang up if you do not want to connect, you need to 
still put the phone to your ear and take it away to bring up end. Really have 
to listen for it too as it is very soft. Hope this helps. Not the most 
accessible app, but I paid for five years regular phone and like it, just not 
the controls on the app.

Reggie and Allegra, my little pill

On May 18, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:

How does one disconnect when using this app?
 
Fred Olver
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Re: Comparing Prizmo 2 and Text Grabber using the StandScan pro and a more complicated layout.

2013-05-18 Thread Will
prismo 2 never gives me anything just keeps saying as other have stated, no 
page even when VO says page found and then no page detected 

On 18 May 2013, at 12:39, Gabriel Battaglia \(Kriyaban\) 
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 Sandra, just thanks for all of your jobs as reports, observations, 
 suggestions and opinions you gave us.
 Gabriel.
 
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Re: Viber making or receiving calls

2013-05-18 Thread Esubalew Johnston
Yes voice over is active during a call. Yes you do have to use a headphone.

On 5/18/13, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all
 I plan to have a chat to a good friend on Viber over the weekend. Since
 this app is now accessible as far as I am concerned how has your
 experience been with making and receiving calls? When I enquired with
 Viber themselves they say that speakerphone isn't supported but they
 would look into it. But this was for an earlier version. I can get
 around this, however is VoiceOver active during a Viber call? Because if
 so, I will have to use headphones just so I don't accidentally do
 anything stupid to the phone.
 Any comments will be greatly appreciated. Cheers!

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Re: Zoom on ViPhone web pages

2013-05-18 Thread Harry
Thanks, Louie! I hadn't realised that Zoom wasn't just pinching out with 
fingers. How great to have folk at hand on this forum! All sorted now!
Gora Euskadi!
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Re: Huffpost upgrade with reduced accessibility

2013-05-18 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi,

If you want to have access to HuffPost and you haven't sync youo phone to your 
computer, you could delete the new update of the app first and then sync the 
previous version back onto the phone. At least you would be able to enjoy using 
the app until the developers fix the bug. Hth. 

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

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 I was just going to comment on the fact that the HuffingtonPost is no longer 
 accessible. I've had exactly the same problem that the original poster 
 describes. I'm glad to hear it isn't just me. Hopefully, the next update will 
 fix this. Although ,there has been one subsequent update do with this app and 
 no fix so far.
 
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How to Write a Simple App with RubyMotion

2013-05-18 Thread Austin Seraphin
Hey everyone. I know some of you have wanted to write iOS apps. If so, you 
should check out my latest podcast. It demonstrates how to write a simple app 
in RubyMotion. I hope you enjoy it. Send me a message if you have any questions.

http://behindthecurtain.us/2013/05/18/writing-a-simple-rubymotion-app-with-voiceover/

 - Austin

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Re: using magic jack on an iPhone question.

2013-05-18 Thread Fred Olver
Thanks, Regina, well they have improved the app, used to be the only way to get 
to a call was to open the app, now all one need do is a one-finger swipe from 
left to right at the bottom of the screen.

Fred
  - Original Message - 
  From: Regina Alvarado 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:00 PM
  Subject: Re: using magic jack on an iPhone question.


  Fred:
  Maybe someone has a better way, but only way I have found is to first bring 
the phone from your ear and in the lower left corner with a swiping movement 
with one finger search just in that corner until you hear end. Double tap. That 
hangs up. If you need to hang up if you do not want to connect, you need to 
still put the phone to your ear and take it away to bring up end. Really have 
to listen for it too as it is very soft. Hope this helps. Not the most 
accessible app, but I paid for five years regular phone and like it, just not 
the controls on the app.

  Reggie and Allegra, my little pill

  On May 18, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:


  How does one disconnect when using this app?

  Fred Olver

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Re: iPad tutorial

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi there. I do not know if there is a specific iPad tutorial out there. However 
Anna Dresner has made an iPhone book which covers a lot of iOS and the iPhone. 
At least I know it does iOS for sure. National braille press sells the book and 
I believe it is available in multiple formats. You might check there. Anna is 
also on this list and so when she reads this message she may respond with more 
accurate information. There are different website as well which gives tutorials 
or guides on using the various iOS devices like the iPad, iPhone, and iPod 
touch. Www.applevis.com Is one of those websites. Also, and I don't like doing 
this on the list because some might see it as a conflict of interest, however I 
will take a risk, I am an excess technology trainer and the iPad, iPhone, and 
iPod touch are things that I teach. So I mentioned that in case your friend 
might consider having a person teach her the iPad as opposed to a tutorial. 
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 A friend is looking for an iPad tutorial. I don't have one, 
 since I have not yet purchased an Apple product. Any help appreciated!
  
 Nance

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Re: Upgrading A Jailbroken iPhone Without Locking It

2013-05-18 Thread BBS
Hi Ben. The third, fourth, and fifth digits of the serial number are 
947. The modem firmware is 06.15.00.


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Re: iPad tutorial

2013-05-18 Thread Fred Olver
Raul, I had forwarded her something of a tactual nature which I received a 
couple days ago concerning the iPad. It gives layouts for various iPad 
configurations.

Fred Olver
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raul A. Gallegos 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:03 PM
  Subject: Re: iPad tutorial


  Hi there. I do not know if there is a specific iPad tutorial out there. 
However Anna Dresner has made an iPhone book which covers a lot of iOS and the 
iPhone. At least I know it does iOS for sure. National braille press sells the 
book and I believe it is available in multiple formats. You might check there. 
Anna is also on this list and so when she reads this message she may respond 
with more accurate information. There are different website as well which gives 
tutorials or guides on using the various iOS devices like the iPad, iPhone, and 
iPod touch. Www.applevis.com Is one of those websites. Also, and I don't like 
doing this on the list because some might see it as a conflict of interest, 
however I will take a risk, I am an excess technology trainer and the iPad, 
iPhone, and iPod touch are things that I teach. So I mentioned that in case 
your friend might consider having a person teach her the iPad as opposed to a 
tutorial. Good luck in finding what you need.

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  On May 18, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Nancy Shackelford ladym74...@netcommander.com 
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A friend is looking for an iPad tutorial. I don't have one, 
since I have not yet purchased an Apple product. Any help appreciated!

Nance

Nancy Shackelford
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Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi there. I have to kind of tread carefully on this topic because I do not want 
to start a screen reader flame war, or a spitting contest between the two 
lovers of each screen reader. What I can say for certain is that Apple worked 
with GW micro to make sure that iTunes and window eyes are compatible. Since 
much of the way that window eyes works with iTunes is similar to the way and 
VDA also works with iTunes, I suspect that perhaps Jaws might need certain 
fixes to work correctly with iTunes. Correctly is even too strong of a word. 
Work better is perhaps more appropriate. All that being said, Jonathan did a 
wonderful job with the freedom scientific tutorials or podcasts on using Jaws 
and iTunes. I am also coming at this from a user who understands access 
technology, but who has used one product over the other a lot more over the 
years.

Because of the nature of my work, I have to be very familiar with all the 
screen readers in order to teach clients. So I am doing my best to know Jaws 
even better than I do now. That is why in my original message I gave the 
disclaimer that it could be something that I myself am doing something wrong 
with Jaws and iTunes.

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On May 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional within 
 iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from differing 
 comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's documentation  
 comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is silent with respect 
 to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes more 
 fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of a 
 Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share 
 this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are 
 different then please let me know.
 
 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.
 
 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.
 
 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws. 
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can 
 correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I 
 am with Window-Eyes.
 
 1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.
 
 2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.
 
 3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
 past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.
 
 4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
 pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.
 
 The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where 
 Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.
 
 5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
 account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
 password and press enter. So far, so good.
 
 6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied to 
 my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode where 
 things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons work. 
 The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
 access keys.
 
 7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With 
 Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off 
 and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I 
 type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same, and 
 I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off and I 
 can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems that no 
 matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They don't 
 call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only pointing that 
 out for those who use one screen reader or another that Browse Mode and 
 Virtual Mode are basically the same thing.
 
 Using Jaws, I press the numpad-plus key to see if this will say pc 
 cursor, but no matter what I do 

Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi there. That is a good question. However let me put it to you this way. Why 
don't all pizza makers make their pizza taste the same? The simple reason is 
because each pizza maker has their own recipe and they are trying to get ahead. 
Making accessible programs for windows or for other platforms is the same 
between different companies or developers. Each one has their own ways of 
programming code and tying in with programs or accessible things to make them 
work for blind users. The same is true even if you take accessibility out of 
the equation. This is why some CD writing programs work better than others. 
This is why in the app store you will literally find more than 100 apps which 
do the same thing. Each person has their own ways of doing it and it's going to 
look different, acted different, smell different, taste different, et cetera.

I hope that helps answer your question, although I am sure it is not what you 
were looking for.

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On May 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their 
 products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway? If 
 you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible using 
 any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal methods?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional 
 within iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from 
 differing comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's 
 documentation  comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is 
 silent with respect to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes 
 more fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of 
 a Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share 
 this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are 
 different then please let me know.
 
 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.
 
 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.
 
 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws. 
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can 
 correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I 
 am with Window-Eyes.
 
 1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.
 
 2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.
 
 3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
 past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.
 
 4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
 pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.
 
 The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where 
 Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.
 
 5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
 account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
 password and press enter. So far, so good.
 
 6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied to 
 my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode where 
 things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons work. 
 The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
 access keys.
 
 7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With 
 Window-Eyes I press enter on the edit field and Browse Mode turns off 
 and I am in real iTunes world just as if there was no screen reader. I 
 type in my code and press enter and voila. With NVDA I do the same, and 
 I can even just press tab and the Browse Mode of it also turns off and I 
 can enter in my code and get it to work. Now with Jaws, it seems that no 
 matter what I do, I cannot get out of their virtual mode. They don't 
 call it Browse mode like Window-Eyes and NVDA do. I'm only pointing that 
 out for those who use one screen reader or 

Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi there. You bring up a good point, and that is why I said in my first message 
that I am fully conscious that I might be doing something wrong because of my 
less familiar usage of jaws. It's kind of funny that Apple worked with GW micro 
specifically to make sure that window eyes and iTunes are accessible. Yet later 
updates to iTunes have broken accessibility with all screenwriters just as you 
pointed out. So that really means that no one is immune. I believe that Apple 
will not even support you if you call with iTunes questions and it is running 
on windows. Or if they will support you, it is probably with a less happy heart 
then if you were running iTunes on the Mac. I could be wrong about this, and it 
may have changed, but I know it used to be this way. All in all, if there is a 
way to do things with any screen reader and iTunes or the web, as long as it 
can be done then that is the real goal.

---
Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto 
complete errors.

On May 18, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Arianna and Keith,
 
 I can't speak for Window Eyes, but I don't think there is much that one
 can't do with Jaws in iTunes. Take the example of not being able to sync
 selected audio books, for example, if I am not mistaken that affected
 Windo-Eyes and NVDA users just the same and as of yesterday's iTunes update
 that is fixed. I mean no disrespect to anybody, but I think in more
 situations the problem is that people have not yet learned to navigate
 effectively whether it is in iTunes or on the internet with whichever
 browser one uses.
 
 One example, somebody quite a while back mentioned that it is not possible
 to copy the serial number of your iPhone in iTunes using Jaws. So, I went
 into iTunes, placed Jaws into the field where the serial number is displayed
 and pressed Control+C. Jaws said Nothing Selected and when I then went
 into Notepad and did a Control+V to paste it nothing happened. So, I went
 back and did a Control+A (select all) first, then a Control+C, once again
 Jaws said Nothing selected and nothing was pasted into Notepad. Then I
 went back again, did an Insert+3 for the Pass Key Through command. I
 then did a Control+C and bingo, the serial number was copied to the
 clipboard just fine and I was able to paste it. The pass key through command
 has been in Jaws for so long that I don't even remember, probably since day
 1 and it's a basic keystroke that is often useful, yet I think a lot of
 people don't know about it or forget that it can come in handy.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Arianna
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:16 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their
 products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway?
 If you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible
 using any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal
 methods?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional
 within iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from
 differing comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's
 documentation  comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is
 silent with respect to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes
 more fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of
 a Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to 
 share this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If 
 they are different then please let me know.
 
 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.
 
 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.
 
 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys 
 can correct me on the Jaws parts since 

Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi there Keith and all. The key that was mentioned is the pass-through key in 
Jaws, however it is called the bypass key in window eyes. In window eyes the 
hot key for this is insert plus B. When the pass-through or bypass hot key is 
pressed, it means that the next keystroke you press is seen by the application 
as if the screen reader wasn't running. If you try and copy the serial number 
from iTunes using window eyes I believe you do not have to use the bypass key. 
The reason you might have to do that with Jaws is because Jaws has a keyboard 
driver and window eyes does not. This is not a slam on any particular product, 
just pointing out the differences. Because of these differences, the user will 
have to do things a certain way with one screen reader over the other.

---
Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto 
complete errors.

On May 18, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Sieghard,
 
 Are you suggesting Raul try the insert + 3 key combination in JAWS?
 
 You're correct in that I have not heard of this before (but I appreciate 
 learning of it now), and, perhaps, I missed Jonathan Mosen's discussion of it 
 in his FS Casts. Do you remember about where he discusses this in any of his 
 4 podcast on JAWS and iTunes. I'm most eager to hone in on this as I'm sure 
 it will be most helpful to me to go back and study this section in depth.
 
 I appreciate the help.
 
 Best, Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi Arianna and Keith,
 
 I can't speak for Window Eyes, but I don't think there is much that one
 can't do with Jaws in iTunes. Take the example of not being able to sync
 selected audio books, for example, if I am not mistaken that affected
 Windo-Eyes and NVDA users just the same and as of yesterday's iTunes update
 that is fixed. I mean no disrespect to anybody, but I think in more
 situations the problem is that people have not yet learned to navigate 
 effectively whether it is in iTunes or on the internet with whichever
 browser one uses.
 
 One example, somebody quite a while back mentioned that it is not possible
 to copy the serial number of your iPhone in iTunes using Jaws. So, I went
 into iTunes, placed Jaws into the field where the serial number is displayed
 and pressed Control+C. Jaws said Nothing Selected and when I then went
 into Notepad and did a Control+V to paste it nothing happened. So, I went
 back and did a Control+A (select all) first, then a Control+C, once again
 Jaws said Nothing selected and nothing was pasted into Notepad. Then I
 went back again, did an Insert+3 for the Pass Key Through command. I
 then did a Control+C and bingo, the serial number was copied to the
 clipboard just fine and I was able to paste it. The pass key through command
 has been in Jaws for so long that I don't even remember, probably since day
 1 and it's a basic keystroke that is often useful, yet I think a lot of
 people don't know about it or forget that it can come in handy.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Arianna
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:16 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their
 products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway?
 If you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible
 using any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal
 methods?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional
 within iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from
 differing comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's
 documentation  comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is
 silent with respect to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes
 more fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of
 a Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to 
 share this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If 
 they 

Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I received that message at first but after hitting ok twice wen it appeared it 
went away and began showing the messages.
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It   
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Maria  Joe Chapman 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: voicebook


  I still can't get it to work.  What did u guys do to fix it?  I just get a 
message saying the app cannot make contact with facebook.




  regards
  Maria and crew from australia
  email:
  bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
  check out 
  www.95-the-mix.com
  where we play lots of great music







  On 19/05/2013, at 8:34 AM, Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net wrote:


No, this app is not free, and you don't have to delete the messages, it 
efreshes. and yay I did exactly what Ben said and it works.

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Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Arianna
I totally understand that. It just seemed to me that there are uniform ways of 
making things accessible—i.e., labeling buttons and graphics, reporting the 
state of alterable controls such as checkboxes and radio buttons, etc. I didn't 
really understand why programers would make their stuff specifically work with 
a certain screen reader. As you can probably see, this...' '' all doesn't make 
too much sense to me lol.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Hi there. That is a good question. However let me put it to you this way. Why 
 don't all pizza makers make their pizza taste the same? The simple reason is 
 because each pizza maker has their own recipe and they are trying to get 
 ahead. Making accessible programs for windows or for other platforms is the 
 same between different companies or developers. Each one has their own ways 
 of programming code and tying in with programs or accessible things to make 
 them work for blind users. The same is true even if you take accessibility 
 out of the equation. This is why some CD writing programs work better than 
 others. This is why in the app store you will literally find more than 100 
 apps which do the same thing. Each person has their own ways of doing it and 
 it's going to look different, acted different, smell different, taste 
 different, et cetera.
 
 I hope that helps answer your question, although I am sure it is not what you 
 were looking for.
 
 ---
 Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto 
 complete errors.
 
 On May 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their 
 products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway? 
 If you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible 
 using any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal 
 methods?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional 
 within iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from 
 differing comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's 
 documentation  comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is 
 silent with respect to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes 
 more fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more 
 of a Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?
 
 I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.
 
 Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
 To: ViPhone List
 Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share 
 this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are 
 different then please let me know.
 
 Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and 
 Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a 
 time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.
 
 Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac 
 or from the iDevice.
 
 What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using 
 Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws. 
 I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do 
 things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can 
 correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I 
 am with Window-Eyes.
 
 1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.
 
 2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.
 
 3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is 
 past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.
 
 4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu 
 pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.
 
 The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where 
 Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.
 
 5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID 
 account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID 
 password and press enter. So far, so good.
 
 6. Now the html portion of iTunes loads with the redeem section tied to 
 my account. Using Window-Eyes, it's automatically in Browse Mode where 
 things like h for headings, e for edit boxes, and b for buttons work. 
 The same is true for NVDA and Jaws and they also use similar quick 
 access keys.
 
 7. I tab to the edit field where I am to enter in my redeem code. With 
 Window-Eyes I press 

Jonathan Mosen's podcast about Siri

2013-05-18 Thread Ann Byrne
Anna Dresner's update to the iPhone book refers to an 
article/podcast/something about Siri by Jonathan Mosen.  the address 
given is either out of date or incomplete.  Can anyone give me the 
current address.  the one in the book  is


audioboo.fm/boos/544034-a-comprehensive-audio-demonstration-of-siri

Much thanks,

Ann


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RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Thanks for your series of comments, Raul. They're most helpful and much 
appreciated.

I'm just curious if Sieghard's suggestion for the pass-through key combination 
might somehow have proven helpful to you in the problem you encountered with 
the JAWS virtual cursor. I plan to do some more research on this pass through 
key combination.

Best, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi there Keith and all. The key that was mentioned is the pass-through key in 
Jaws, however it is called the bypass key in window eyes. In window eyes the 
hot key for this is insert plus B. When the pass-through or bypass hot key is 
pressed, it means that the next keystroke you press is seen by the application 
as if the screen reader wasn't running. If you try and copy the serial number 
from iTunes using window eyes I believe you do not have to use the bypass key. 
The reason you might have to do that with Jaws is because Jaws has a keyboard 
driver and window eyes does not. This is not a slam on any particular product, 
just pointing out the differences. Because of these differences, the user will 
have to do things a certain way with one screen reader over the other.

---
Sent from Raul's iPhone - (832) 554-7285. Please excuse any dictation or auto 
complete errors.

On May 18, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Sieghard,
 
 Are you suggesting Raul try the insert + 3 key combination in JAWS?
 
 You're correct in that I have not heard of this before (but I appreciate 
 learning of it now), and, perhaps, I missed Jonathan Mosen's discussion of it 
 in his FS Casts. Do you remember about where he discusses this in any of his 
 4 podcast on JAWS and iTunes. I'm most eager to hone in on this as I'm sure 
 it will be most helpful to me to go back and study this section in depth.
 
 I appreciate the help.
 
 Best, Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 Hi Arianna and Keith,
 
 I can't speak for Window Eyes, but I don't think there is much that one
 can't do with Jaws in iTunes. Take the example of not being able to sync
 selected audio books, for example, if I am not mistaken that affected
 Windo-Eyes and NVDA users just the same and as of yesterday's iTunes update
 that is fixed. I mean no disrespect to anybody, but I think in more
 situations the problem is that people have not yet learned to navigate 
 effectively whether it is in iTunes or on the internet with whichever
 browser one uses.
 
 One example, somebody quite a while back mentioned that it is not possible
 to copy the serial number of your iPhone in iTunes using Jaws. So, I went
 into iTunes, placed Jaws into the field where the serial number is displayed
 and pressed Control+C. Jaws said Nothing Selected and when I then went
 into Notepad and did a Control+V to paste it nothing happened. So, I went
 back and did a Control+A (select all) first, then a Control+C, once again
 Jaws said Nothing selected and nothing was pasted into Notepad. Then I
 went back again, did an Insert+3 for the Pass Key Through command. I
 then did a Control+C and bingo, the serial number was copied to the
 clipboard just fine and I was able to paste it. The pass key through command
 has been in Jaws for so long that I don't even remember, probably since day
 1 and it's a basic keystroke that is often useful, yet I think a lot of
 people don't know about it or forget that it can come in handy.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Arianna
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:16 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows
 
 That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their
 products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway?
 If you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible
 using any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal
 methods?
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional
 within iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from
 differing comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's
 documentation  comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is
 silent with respect to JAWS.
 
 I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes
 more fully functional 

Re: iTunes update 11.0.3.42 is available

2013-05-18 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
They also changed the way apps are updated. Now instead of just
clicking check for updates, you need to change the view from all apps
to updates first.

On 5/18/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I didn't poke into it any further, but the headlines for this update
 talked about improvements to the MiniPlayer.

 On 05/17/2013 11:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hello List,

 I just received a notification that a new iTunes for Windows update,
 version 11.0.3.42, is available.

 I installed it and, if I remember correctly, wasn’t there an issue
 before that made it impossible to sync selected Audio Books? Well, this
 seems to be resolved unless of course yesterday’s Jaws update resolved
 it, but I don’t recall reading that there was any iTunes fixes in that
 version.

 Best regards,

 Sieghard

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Re: Upgrading A Jailbroken iPhone Without Locking It

2013-05-18 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

Unfortunately you're in a bit of a pickle. The two values you gave me
were the worste possible values you could have scene.

Essentially:

Since you have the newer, unexploitable bootrom, you'll only be able
to upgrade to iOs 6. Unfortunately, the latest version of iOs6 is
unjailbreakable, which in your situation isn't good as your unlock is
relient on a jailbreak to work.
In addition, since the modem firmware (Aka baseband) that your phone
is running is one that is meant to only be used on iPads, if you
attempt to upgrade to iOs6 through iTunes without making a custom ipsw
file, the upgrade will simply fail, resulting in you having to create
a custom ipsw just to get back to iOs4.

I would suggest that you downgrade your baseband to a 05x version
whilst still on iOs4, upgrade to iOs6 through iTunes (no custom ipsw
needed) and then try to find an imei based unlock for your device.
Here 
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-downgrade-iphone-3gs-3g-06.15.00-to-05.13.04-baseband-for-unlock-and-working-gps/
is a good tutorial for downgrading your baseband although the latest
version of Redsn0w is newer than the one it mentions.
When Redsn0w asks, you have the newer bootrom.

Good luck, take your time and be careful.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 5/19/13, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ben. The third, fourth, and fifth digits of the serial number are
 947. The modem firmware is 06.15.00.

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Re: Jonathan Mosen's podcast about Siri

2013-05-18 Thread Ann Byrne
Good grief, Charlie Brown!  All it needed was http://www.  So now 
that I have found it, how can I download it?

http://www.audioboo.fm/boos/544034-a-comprehensive-audio-demonstration-of-siri


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Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi Ari, yes it is frustrating. However I can guarantee that due to the 
way software has to interact with the operating system, it's not as easy 
as someone would think making sure things work as they should. It would 
be nice in an ideal world, but as you know, we don't live in an ideal world.


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Purr, purr, purr. - Sheldon Cooper

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On 5/18/2013 7:44 PM, Arianna wrote:

I totally understand that. It just seemed to me that there are uniform ways of 
making things accessible—i.e., labeling buttons and graphics, reporting the 
state of alterable controls such as checkboxes and radio buttons, etc. I didn't 
really understand why programers would make their stuff specifically work with 
a certain screen reader. As you can probably see, this...' '' all doesn't make 
too much sense to me lol.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


Hi there. That is a good question. However let me put it to you this way. Why 
don't all pizza makers make their pizza taste the same? The simple reason is 
because each pizza maker has their own recipe and they are trying to get ahead. 
Making accessible programs for windows or for other platforms is the same 
between different companies or developers. Each one has their own ways of 
programming code and tying in with programs or accessible things to make them 
work for blind users. The same is true even if you take accessibility out of 
the equation. This is why some CD writing programs work better than others. 
This is why in the app store you will literally find more than 100 apps which 
do the same thing. Each person has their own ways of doing it and it's going to 
look different, acted different, smell different, taste different, et cetera.

I hope that helps answer your question, although I am sure it is not what you 
were looking for.

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On May 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote:


That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their 
products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway? If 
you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible using 
any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal methods?


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:


I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional within 
iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from differing 
comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's documentation  
comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is silent with respect to 
JAWS.

I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes more 
fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of a 
Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?

I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.

Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:11 AM
To: ViPhone List
Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share
this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are
different then please let me know.

Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and
Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a
time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

Before I continue, I'm not interested in redeeming the card from a Mac
or from the iDevice.

What seems to be happening is that redeeming the gift card using
Window-Eyes and/or NVDA works, but I'm having a hard time with Jaws.
I've listed the steps below with appropriate comments on where I do
things differently depending on the screen reader and maybe you guys can
correct me on the Jaws parts since I'm not as comfortable with it as I
am with Window-Eyes.

1. With iTunes running I start in the source list tree view.

2. I up or down arrow until I get to the iTunes store.

3. I press either tab or f6 until I get to the account button. This is
past the various app store category buttons like music, apps, iTunes U, ETC.

4. Once at the right button I press the space bar and a context menu
pops up. I down arrow once to the Redeem menu item and press enter.

The first 4 steps work well with all 3 screen readers, but here is where
Jaws departs and NVDA and Window-Eyes continue to work for me.

5. After pressing enter on Redeem, I am asked to sign into my Apple ID
account. I'm already on the password field. So, I type my Apple ID
password and press enter. So far, so good.


Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello Keith. I will give this a try because I'm not satisfied that I 
wasn't able to redeem a card using Jaws. So, naturally I will continue 
to try and figure things out. If I have updates I will let the list know.


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Sheldon Cooper

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On 5/18/2013 8:07 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

Thanks for your series of comments, Raul. They're most helpful and much 
appreciated.

I'm just curious if Sieghard's suggestion for the pass-through key combination 
might somehow have proven helpful to you in the problem you encountered with 
the JAWS virtual cursor. I plan to do some more research on this pass through 
key combination.

Best, Keith

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi there Keith and all. The key that was mentioned is the pass-through key in 
Jaws, however it is called the bypass key in window eyes. In window eyes the 
hot key for this is insert plus B. When the pass-through or bypass hot key is 
pressed, it means that the next keystroke you press is seen by the application 
as if the screen reader wasn't running. If you try and copy the serial number 
from iTunes using window eyes I believe you do not have to use the bypass key. 
The reason you might have to do that with Jaws is because Jaws has a keyboard 
driver and window eyes does not. This is not a slam on any particular product, 
just pointing out the differences. Because of these differences, the user will 
have to do things a certain way with one screen reader over the other.

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On May 18, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:


Sieghard,

Are you suggesting Raul try the insert + 3 key combination in JAWS?

You're correct in that I have not heard of this before (but I appreciate 
learning of it now), and, perhaps, I missed Jonathan Mosen's discussion of it 
in his FS Casts. Do you remember about where he discusses this in any of his 4 
podcast on JAWS and iTunes. I'm most eager to hone in on this as I'm sure it 
will be most helpful to me to go back and study this section in depth.

I appreciate the help.

Best, Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi Arianna and Keith,

I can't speak for Window Eyes, but I don't think there is much that one
can't do with Jaws in iTunes. Take the example of not being able to sync
selected audio books, for example, if I am not mistaken that affected
Windo-Eyes and NVDA users just the same and as of yesterday's iTunes update
that is fixed. I mean no disrespect to anybody, but I think in more
situations the problem is that people have not yet learned to navigate 
effectively whether it is in iTunes or on the internet with whichever
browser one uses.

One example, somebody quite a while back mentioned that it is not possible
to copy the serial number of your iPhone in iTunes using Jaws. So, I went
into iTunes, placed Jaws into the field where the serial number is displayed
and pressed Control+C. Jaws said Nothing Selected and when I then went
into Notepad and did a Control+V to paste it nothing happened. So, I went
back and did a Control+A (select all) first, then a Control+C, once again
Jaws said Nothing selected and nothing was pasted into Notepad. Then I
went back again, did an Insert+3 for the Pass Key Through command. I
then did a Control+C and bingo, the serial number was copied to the
clipboard just fine and I was able to paste it. The pass key through command
has been in Jaws for so long that I don't even remember, probably since day
1 and it's a basic keystroke that is often useful, yet I think a lot of
people don't know about it or forget that it can come in handy.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arianna
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their
products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway?
If you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible
using any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal
methods?


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:


I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as 

Re: Upgrading A Jailbroken iPhone Without Locking It

2013-05-18 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi and sorry for the double post.

It is possible, depending on what version of iOs the phone was running
before it was downgraded and if it was jailbroken that you might be
able to upgrade to iOs5 if you didn't want to go to 6. To do this,
download tinyumbrella on your computer, connect your phone and see
what blobs it says are available.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 5/19/13, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Unfortunately you're in a bit of a pickle. The two values you gave me
 were the worste possible values you could have scene.

 Essentially:

 Since you have the newer, unexploitable bootrom, you'll only be able
 to upgrade to iOs 6. Unfortunately, the latest version of iOs6 is
 unjailbreakable, which in your situation isn't good as your unlock is
 relient on a jailbreak to work.
 In addition, since the modem firmware (Aka baseband) that your phone
 is running is one that is meant to only be used on iPads, if you
 attempt to upgrade to iOs6 through iTunes without making a custom ipsw
 file, the upgrade will simply fail, resulting in you having to create
 a custom ipsw just to get back to iOs4.

 I would suggest that you downgrade your baseband to a 05x version
 whilst still on iOs4, upgrade to iOs6 through iTunes (no custom ipsw
 needed) and then try to find an imei based unlock for your device.
 Here
 http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-downgrade-iphone-3gs-3g-06.15.00-to-05.13.04-baseband-for-unlock-and-working-gps/
 is a good tutorial for downgrading your baseband although the latest
 version of Redsn0w is newer than the one it mentions.
 When Redsn0w asks, you have the newer bootrom.

 Good luck, take your time and be careful.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 5/19/13, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Ben. The third, fourth, and fifth digits of the serial number are
 947. The modem firmware is 06.15.00.

 --
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lost my Plantronics M50

2013-05-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi all. yesterday I went to Austin to take a certification test for the 
state so I can legally train consumers with the state. In any case, I 
took my Plantronics M50 head phone, or rather, ear piece since it's for 
a single ear, with me, and somewhere between leaving the Chris Cole 
center and the Greyhound bus I lost it. I don't know if I dropped it out 
of my shirt pocket when I took something else out of it, or if I took it 
off and just left it there in the station. In any case, today I went out 
for some personal life things and really missed having the ear piece 
with me. So, now I find myself at Amazon, ready to purchase a 
replacement M50, but then am thinking that since I love exploring new 
items and trying out new things, maybe I should get a different kind. 
Then when I think of this I have second and third thoughts because I 
really like the M50. It's super light, has decent enough volume, and 
since I mainly use it for VoiceOver and Audio book or podcast listening, 
I am hesitant to buy another different brand.


I've looked at this list's archives and see a few other models people 
have recommended, but I'm still not sure.


I guess there is no point to this message other than saying that if you 
get used to something and then you don't have it, you will know how much 
you really liked it if you miss it a lot.


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MiniPlayer

2013-05-18 Thread Beverly
My iTunes is in MiniPlayer mode and I don't know how to change it back. Any 
help would be appreciated. I have the latest version of iTunes along with jaws 
13 and windows vista.


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Re: How to Write a Simple App with RubyMotion

2013-05-18 Thread Cris Ali
Nice podcast.  Is there a version of rubymotion for windows pc?  if no, is 
there another good accessible language to use on windows pc?

Cris

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From: Austin Seraphin 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: How to Write a Simple App with RubyMotion

Hey everyone. I know some of you have wanted to write iOS apps. If so, you 
should check out my latest podcast. It demonstrates how to write a simple app 
in RubyMotion. I hope you enjoy it. Send me a message if you have any 
questions. 

http://behindthecurtain.us/2013/05/18/writing-a-simple-rubymotion-app-with-voiceover/


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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Active Information Systems
Hi All...

As Lella wrote, we think we have a fix to the Authorization error.  It's to 
uninstall VoiceBook VO, go to Facebook and deautorize VoiceBook as an 
authorized app, the reinstall the app.  Essentially, this resets 
everything and you'll be back up and running.

For those who have purchased the upgrade, you'll need to go through the 
purchase procedure again.  However, the good news is that Apple detects 
that you've already bought it and won't charge you again, although it will 
seem like they will since all their prompts assume you haven't already 
paid.  At the last moment, it will tell you that you have already paid and 
will unlock the app.

The App is free for 30 days, and then costs $1.99 US if you wish to coninue 
using it to post status updates/comments/likes.  It remains free if you 
just read your feed.

Ben

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:26:20 PM UTC-5, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

How do you delete any of the messages? 
   When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming. 



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Re: voicebook

2013-05-18 Thread Lelia Struve
Hi Ben, I thought the price was around two dollars, but I didn't want to quote 
that because I wasn't sure. I'm glad you were here to answer that question.
Lelia


Sent from my iPhone

On May 18, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Active Information Systems benvegi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi All...
 
 As Lella wrote, we think we have a fix to the Authorization error.  It's to 
 uninstall VoiceBook VO, go to Facebook and deautorize VoiceBook as an 
 authorized app, the reinstall the app.  Essentially, this resets everything 
 and you'll be back up and running.
 
 For those who have purchased the upgrade, you'll need to go through the 
 purchase procedure again.  However, the good news is that Apple detects that 
 you've already bought it and won't charge you again, although it will seem 
 like they will since all their prompts assume you haven't already paid.  At 
 the last moment, it will tell you that you have already paid and will unlock 
 the app.
 
 The App is free for 30 days, and then costs $1.99 US if you wish to coninue 
 using it to post status updates/comments/likes.  It remains free if you just 
 read your feed.
 
 Ben
 
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Re: MiniPlayer

2013-05-18 Thread Ann Byrne

control-shift-m should do it.

good luck!
At 09:12 PM 5/18/2013, you wrote:
My iTunes is in MiniPlayer mode and I don't know how to change it 
back. Any help would be appreciated. I have the latest version of 
iTunes along with jaws 13 and windows vista.



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Re: iPad tutorial

2013-05-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

National Braille Press just put out an iPad book. It's geared to sighted 
parents and teachers, so I don't know how helpful it would be, but your friend 
could check the table of contents online and see if it sounds helpful. Go to
www.nbp.org
and search for iPad on the main page to find it. They also put out a book of 
raised drawings of iPad screens, which might be helpful.

Best,
Anna

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On May 18, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Nancy Shackelford ladym74...@netcommander.com 
wrote:

 A friend is looking for an iPad tutorial. I don't have one, 
 since I have not yet purchased an Apple product. Any help appreciated!
  
 Nance

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RE: Jonathan Mosen's podcast about Siri

2013-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ann,

I copied the link you provided, opened Internet Explorer and pasted it just
as it is into the address bar. I pressed enter and within about 2 seconds
Jonathan's Audio Boo started playing.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: Jonathan Mosen's podcast about Siri

Anna Dresner's update to the iPhone book refers to an
article/podcast/something about Siri by Jonathan Mosen.  the address given
is either out of date or incomplete.  Can anyone give me the current
address.  the one in the book  is

audioboo.fm/boos/544034-a-comprehensive-audio-demonstration-of-siri

Much thanks,

Ann


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RE: lost my Plantronics M50

2013-05-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Raul,

I can certainly feel your pain although that might be too strong a word for
losing your M50. I am finding myself using Blindsquare and so on a lot more
these days because my dog is out of commission for at least 2 months with a
torn ACL. This happened while I was in Thailand when he was playing with
other dogs and I can tell you that after 10 years of using a White Cane,
then 20 years of using my so far 2 dogs and now temporarily being back to
the Cane I can really appreciate what these dogs do for us. I live in a very
small town and rarely use the GPS with my dog, but the sidewalks here are
quite often horrible with lots of gravel and often very few landmarks
indicating when you actually go across a cross street. Blindsquare really
comes in handy here.

Unfortunately the $3,000 surgery right after a fairly expensive holiday also
means no budget for toys for a while *smile*. I did, however, pick up a $15
iTunes gift card on my way home tonight and I'll give Jaws and iTunes a try
shortly and report back.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Accessibility [was Re: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows]

2013-05-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
There are standard ways to make an app accessible, but two things come 
into play here. First, a development team may not take accessibility 
into account when first developing there application. Second, following 
the standard accessibility guidelines may not provide enough 
differentiation for an application team. A development team may come up 
with a new innovative way to do something that the accessibility 
guidelines haven't addressed yet.


In either case, once you get an application out there that doesn't have 
accessibility built into it from the get go then accessibility has to be 
bolted on after the fact. In the case of an application like iTunes, 
this is done by a combination of changes in iTunes itself as well as 
special hooks added to the screen readers to support iTunes.


You also have the case where Apple has it's own OS, it's own screen 
reader and it's own set of apps. Ditto for Google. MS is a little 
different, but if you lump in the Windows screen readers with MS then 
it's an analogous situation to Apple and Google. Apple's motivation is 
to get people using Apple products, so their commitment to iTunes 
accessibility on Windows only goes so far. Obviously, they needed to 
address this to promote iPhone sales, but as the Mac gets more and more 
popular at the expense of the PC, they'll be less and less motivated to 
put any effort into an iTuens product for Windows, let alone making it 
accessible.


Also, with the change in OS's, and interfaces such as Windows 8, Gnome 
3, Unity, HTML5 and so on, the accessibility standards still need to be 
developed and settled on as a standard.


On 05/18/2013 07:44 PM, Arianna wrote:

I totally understand that. It just seemed to me that there are uniform ways of 
making things accessible—i.e., labeling buttons and graphics, reporting the 
state of alterable controls such as checkboxes and radio buttons, etc. I didn't 
really understand why programers would make their stuff specifically work with 
a certain screen reader. As you can probably see, this...' '' all doesn't make 
too much sense to me lol.


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:


Hi there. That is a good question. However let me put it to you this way. Why 
don't all pizza makers make their pizza taste the same? The simple reason is 
because each pizza maker has their own recipe and they are trying to get ahead. 
Making accessible programs for windows or for other platforms is the same 
between different companies or developers. Each one has their own ways of 
programming code and tying in with programs or accessible things to make them 
work for blind users. The same is true even if you take accessibility out of 
the equation. This is why some CD writing programs work better than others. 
This is why in the app store you will literally find more than 100 apps which 
do the same thing. Each person has their own ways of doing it and it's going to 
look different, acted different, smell different, taste different, et cetera.

I hope that helps answer your question, although I am sure it is not what you 
were looking for.

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On May 18, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote:


That's the thing I don't really understand. Why do companies make their 
products accessible to one screen reader only? How does that work, anyway? If 
you make something accessible, shouldn't it follow that it's accessible using 
any screen reader? Are't accessible programs accessible in universal methods?


Thanks,
Ari

On May 18, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:


I'm a JAWS user, too, and it seems JAWS is generally not as functional within 
iTunes as is Window-Eyes, at least as best I can understand from differing 
comments I've heard on this list. And, I believe, Apple's documentation  
comments upon its compatibility with Window-Eyes, but is silent with respect to 
JAWS.

I'm curious whether this reflects a problem with Apple not making itunes more 
fully functional with JAWS, a popular screen reader, or if it's more of a 
Freedom Scientific issue not making JAWS more functional with iTunes?

I would certainly hope they could learn to work better with one another.

Keith

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Raul A. Gallegos
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Subject: redeeming an iTunes gift card using iTunes in Windows

Hi all. I am having a rather interesting problem and would like to share
this with you to see if others have had similar experiences. If they are
different then please let me know.

Here's what I have: Windows 7 64-bit, Window-Eyes 8.2, NVDA 2012, and
Jaws 14. Obviously I'm not running more than one screen reader at a
time. I'm using iTunes and am redeeming an iTunes gift card.

Before I 

Re: Upgrading A Jailbroken iPhone Without Locking It

2013-05-18 Thread BBS
Hi Ben. Before he downgraded and jailbroke my iPhone, it was running 
iOS6. He also put an app on it called Cydia. Does any of this mean 
anything to you? Oh yeah, iOS6 wasn't jailbroken. I think I'd like to 
have a Skype call with you before I attempt any of these steps you gave 
me. I have this email saved with the link you gave me for future 
reference. My Skype username is bbstheblindrapper.


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Re: Jonathan Mosen's podcast about Siri

2013-05-18 Thread Esther
Hi Sieghard,

I think Arianna wanted the link for direct download of the podcast mp3
file, without using the player. Not sure why she couldn't get the
context menu to come up with a copy link option, but here's a
shortened, direct link to the mp3 file for Jonathan's old Siri demo:
http://bit.ly/13xNDd0
I prefer to post full URLs, which for this case is:
http://audioboo.fm/boos/544034-a-comprehensive-audio-demonstration-of-siri.mp3

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On May 18, 6:47 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Ann,

 I copied the link you provided, opened Internet Explorer and pasted it just
 as it is into the address bar. I pressed enter and within about 2 seconds
 Jonathan's Audio Boo started playing.

 Regards,
 Sieghard







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 Of Ann Byrne
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Jonathan Mosen's podcast about Siri

 Anna Dresner's update to the iPhone book refers to an
 article/podcast/something about Siri by Jonathan Mosen.  the address given
 is either out of date or incomplete.  Can anyone give me the current
 address.  the one in the book  is

 audioboo.fm/boos/544034-a-comprehensive-audio-demonstration-of-siri

 Much thanks,

 Ann

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