Re: Creating ring tone

[Lea Langley]

Hi, if you get these directions would you please share them with me. Thank you 
very much God bless, Wren PS someone else on the list may like them also thank 
you so much.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:48 PM, "DJ Reese"  wrote:
> 
> Hi list:
> 
> Someone gave me the directions before so hope they can provide them again 
> for me.  I already got step 1 down to have the song I wish to use as a ring 
> tone in the library.  Its from this point on I need further direction.  Any 
> help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
> 
> DJ Reese
> 
> Download and install the new Peachtree Radio fM app available in the 
> Android, Apple and Black berry app stores today.
> Peachtree Radio FM.  where some listen to remember and some listen to 
> forget.
> www.peachtreeradiofm.com 
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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Harry Bell]

Since the latest update it takes a few seconds for peoples small fonts in 
emails to spring into the larger font I have set as larger dynamic type! Odd
Harry

 

> On 15 Nov 2013, at 01:22, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pablo,
>  
> Well, you didn’t understand right because nobody here has ever said that IOS 
> 7.0.3 had no bugs.  In fact, IOS 7 will continue to have bugs until IOS8 
> comes out and then there will be IOS 9 that will come out with bugs and this 
> has been happening ever since computers have existed so you’d better start 
> accepting that or leave the world of computers, otherwise you will never have 
> peace of mind and never will be happy.   
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4
>  
> I am surprised. I understood, here, in this email list. That IOs 7.0.3  has 
> no bugs. But reading the emails related with this last update, and reading 
> this last email. I am understanding that I wasn't wrong, when I said that IOs 
> 7, has several bugs.
> I glad to know, that I am not the only one who recognize that IOs 7, has 
> several bugs, as the article says.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Fred Olver
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:14 PM
> Subject: update IOS 7.0.4
>  
> Feed: OS X Daily
> Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
> Author: Paul Horowitz
> Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download 
> Links]
>  
> 
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
> touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes 
> and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused 
> video chat and voice calls to fail continuously under some circumstances. 
> Other small feature changes may be present, but have not been specifically 
> mentioned or discovered yet.
> 
> The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their iOS 
> devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the update on 
> their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, 
> iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad Mini, 
> Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5 is 
> available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime issues 
> for that device.
> 
> Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA
> 
> For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use 
> the over-the-air update mechanism:
> 
> · Open “Settings” and go to “General”, then to “Software Update”
> 
> · Choose “Download & Install” and agree to the terms and conditions 
> to begin the update
> 
> Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through 
> OTA, despite the delta update size being about 18MB. It may sit on “Preparing 
> Update…” for a while before completing, this seems to be routine for just 
> about every iOS device, just let it sit and it should complete eventually.
> 
> Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download 
> the complete update through there.
> 
> Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files can also choose to 
> download IPSW files directly from Apple’s servers using the links below, then 
> apply the update manually through iTunes. This is generally considered more 
> advanced and is best reserved for those who have experience with updating 
> through IPSW.
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links
> 
> For best results, right-click the respective link and choose “Save As”. Be 
> sure the file has a “.ipsw” extension when saved.
> 
> · iPhone 5 (GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 5S (GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5S (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 5C(GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5C (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 4S
> 
> · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,2)
> 
> · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,1)
> 
> · iPhone 4 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad Air (LTE)
> 
> · iPad Air (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (LTE)
> 
> · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad 4 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 4 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 4 (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini (GSM)
> 
> · iPad Mini (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 3 (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad 3 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 3 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 2 (Wi-Fi 2,4)
> 
> · iPad 2 (Wi-Fi 2,1)
> 
> · iPad 2 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 2 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPod touch (5th gen)
> 
> · iPod touch (4th gen – iOS 6.1.5)
> 
> The majority of individuals should use the OTA update method, it is by far 
> the simplest.
> 
> The update appears to enable Bluetooth, so if you don’t use the feature be 
> sure to turn that off when your device reboots. Di

Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Joanne Chua]

I think we should really should write down a wish list for Christmas. Lets go 
back to Nokia 3310 phone. No bug, No talks, nothing. There. Maybe that will 
please some of the whiners here.
Hang on a minute, when i first got my very first Nokia 3310, i got to sent my 
phone to Nokia itself, because it crashes after 5 minutes of turning the phone 
on. Then did gave me a new phone though, which, either i can go without 
vibration or silent with vibration onn. 3rd time got lucky right? :)


Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

> On 15 Nov 2013, at 11:52, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pablo,
>  
> Well, you didn’t understand right because nobody here has ever said that IOS 
> 7.0.3 had no bugs.  In fact, IOS 7 will continue to have bugs until IOS8 
> comes out and then there will be IOS 9 that will come out with bugs and this 
> has been happening ever since computers have existed so you’d better start 
> accepting that or leave the world of computers, otherwise you will never have 
> peace of mind and never will be happy.   
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4
>  
> I am surprised. I understood, here, in this email list. That IOs 7.0.3  has 
> no bugs. But reading the emails related with this last update, and reading 
> this last email. I am understanding that I wasn't wrong, when I said that IOs 
> 7, has several bugs.
> I glad to know, that I am not the only one who recognize that IOs 7, has 
> several bugs, as the article says.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Fred Olver
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:14 PM
> Subject: update IOS 7.0.4
>  
> Feed: OS X Daily
> Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
> Author: Paul Horowitz
> Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download 
> Links]
>  
> 
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
> touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes 
> and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused 
> video chat and voice calls to fail continuously under some circumstances. 
> Other small feature changes may be present, but have not been specifically 
> mentioned or discovered yet.
> 
> The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their iOS 
> devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the update on 
> their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, 
> iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad Mini, 
> Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5 is 
> available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime issues 
> for that device.
> 
> Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA
> 
> For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use 
> the over-the-air update mechanism:
> 
> · Open “Settings” and go to “General”, then to “Software Update”
> 
> · Choose “Download & Install” and agree to the terms and conditions 
> to begin the update
> 
> Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through 
> OTA, despite the delta update size being about 18MB. It may sit on “Preparing 
> Update…” for a while before completing, this seems to be routine for just 
> about every iOS device, just let it sit and it should complete eventually.
> 
> Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download 
> the complete update through there.
> 
> Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files can also choose to 
> download IPSW files directly from Apple’s servers using the links below, then 
> apply the update manually through iTunes. This is generally considered more 
> advanced and is best reserved for those who have experience with updating 
> through IPSW.
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links
> 
> For best results, right-click the respective link and choose “Save As”. Be 
> sure the file has a “.ipsw” extension when saved.
> 
> · iPhone 5 (GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 5S (GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5S (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 5C(GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5C (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 4S
> 
> · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,2)
> 
> · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,1)
> 
> · iPhone 4 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad Air (LTE)
> 
> · iPad Air (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (LTE)
> 
> · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad 4 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 4 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 4 (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini (GSM)
> 
> · iPad Mini (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 3 (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad 3 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 3 (CDMA)
>

Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Pablo Morales]

Yes, I know it. I work with computers every day, and every hour of my life. How 
ever,and despite who gets upset with my following words. IOs 7  brought new 
things, but also it is the IOs with more bugs that I have seen. It is the point 
that I don't like, why a company who charge almost 1000 dollars for a phone, 
every IOs is getting more and more bugs? The response that every operated 
system has bugs is a wrong answer. When we pay a little bit of money, the 
service, or product that we are paying, will be like the amount that we paid, 
very little. When we pay more money, to good companies, we are expecting good 
things, products and services of high quality, not cheap things, not operated 
systems with bunches of bugs. I don't understand why the people who defend 
apple, is not able to understand that with this attitude they are accepting 
high prices, by less quality. Later if we do not make pression, the iPhones 
will be products of low quality. Now we are looking IOs with so much bugs. 
Jesus, I am surprised with the things that I am reading in the list, and in 
list in another countries in another languages, and here the people defend 
positions that goes against themselves?
No, come on. I am not able to write emails with my iPhone, and before I did it 
so many times. So the response that it is because I don't know how move my 
fingers, it is a very poor appraise of my capabilities, and I consider it 
offensive.
and not only against me, against every body in the list who is getting the same 
problem.
I don't know what they are gaining  defending some body that is keeping the 
prices too high, but aat the same time they are reducing the quality.
Later, later we will been conftable with poor and poor IOs, and never will 
remember how it works before.And just to finish. I know that IOs never will be 
perfect, but either it needs to be the worse. Look on internet, the problems 
that blind and sighted people is getting with the last IOs. That apple is a 
great product?
Yes, and I hope that they continue making great things, and because of that I 
am making presure on this matter.
On 15 Nov 2013, at 01:22, Ron Pelletier  wrote:


Hi Pablo,



Well, you didn’t understand right because nobody here has ever said that 
IOS 7.0.3 had no bugs.  In fact, IOS 7 will continue to have bugs until IOS8 
comes out and then there will be IOS 9 that will come out with bugs and this 
has been happening ever since computers have existed so you’d better start 
accepting that or leave the world of computers, otherwise you will never have 
peace of mind and never will be happy.   



Ron & Danvers



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4



I am surprised. I understood, here, in this email list. That IOs 7.0.3  has 
no bugs. But reading the emails related with this last update, and reading this 
last email. I am understanding that I wasn't wrong, when I said that IOs 7, has 
several bugs.

I glad to know, that I am not the only one who recognize that IOs 7, has 
several bugs, as the article says.



  - Original Message - 

  From: Fred Olver 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:14 PM

  Subject: update IOS 7.0.4



  Feed: OS X Daily
  Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
  Author: Paul Horowitz
  Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download 
Links]





iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, 
and iPod touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug 
fixes and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that 
caused video chat and voice calls to fail continuously under some 
circumstances. Other small feature changes may be present, but have not been 
specifically mentioned or discovered yet.

The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup 
their iOS devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the 
update on their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, 
iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, 
iPad Mini, Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 
6.1.5 is available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime 
issues for that device.

Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA
For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices 
is to use the over-the-air update mechanism:

· Open “Settings” and go to “General”, then to “Software 
Update”
· Choose “Download & Install” and agree to the terms and 
conditions to begin the update
Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update 
through OTA, despite 

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The dreaded VO volume bug revisited

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I have just encountered the ”voiceovers volume slider can’t be raiced over 35 
percent bug. Now i know there’s a workaround, but i can for the life of me not 
remember what to do. Could someone please remind me of what to do in this 
situation?
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iPad mini

[Chris H]

Hello everyone
just a quick message to say there might be an iPad mini owner in the 
family at Christmas as I'm hoping my half brothers get one for Christmas 
from our parents. Father rung me and asked what one can do with a wifi 
tablet and tole them. I then gave a sort of a hint to consider the iPad 
or iPad mini for two reasons.
1. They have an iPod Touch already so makes sense to get a tablet 
running on the same platform.
2. Since I am a devoted Apple user and helper I will be able to offer 
help for an iPad or iPad mini instead of what they liked the look of; a 
Samsung tablet. Sorry to sneak that in there grin.
Keep you posted as if they do get the mini I am hoping to feel and have 
a brief play with it. Note they are not VoiceOver users but I am.

Any comments welcome.

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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Chris H]

All updates can be installed anywhere in the world providing it is 
available there. In fact you do not need to have an Apple Id to update 
iOS devices. You do however need wifi so cellular connections are out of 
the question. The only other option is to update via iTunes.


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On 15/11/2013 04:11, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

can I install the update from here in the UK or will I need to wait until I 
return to the US to
install the update?  Also does the update address the VO bugs cited on the 
reflector?





Ray T. Mahorney

WA4WGA

M0WGA



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 23:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update IOS 7.0.4



Feed: OS X Daily
Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: Paul Horowitz
Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download Links]




iOS 7.0.4 download

iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
touch models, with a
build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes and improvements, and 
addresses an issue
with FaceTime calling that caused video chat and voice calls
  to fail 
continuously under
some circumstances. Other small feature changes may be present, but have not 
been specifically
mentioned or discovered yet.

The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their iOS 
devices to iCloud or
iTunes, if not both, before installing the update on their respective hardware. 
The update is
available for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 
3, iPad 4, iPad Air,
iPad Mini, Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 
6.1.5 is available for
the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime issues for that device.


Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA


For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use the 
over-the-air update
mechanism:


* Open "Settings" and go to "General", then to "Software Update"


* Choose "Download & Install" and agree to the terms and conditions to 
begin the update


Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through OTA, 
despite the delta
update size being about 18MB. It may sit on "Preparing Update." for a while 
before completing, this
seems to be routine for just about every iOS device, just let it sit and it 
should complete
eventually.

Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download 
the complete update
through there.

Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files
  can also choose to 
download IPSW files
directly from Apple's servers using the links below, then apply the update 
manually through iTunes.
This is generally considered more advanced and is best reserved for those who 
have experience with
updating through IPSW.


iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links


For best results, right-click the respective link and choose "Save As". Be sure 
the file has a
".ipsw" extension when saved.


* iPhone 5 (GSM)



* iPhone 5 (CDMA)



* iPhone 5S (GSM)



* iPhone 5S (CDMA)



* iPhone 5C(GSM)



* iPhone 5C (CDMA)



* iPhone 4S



* iPhone 4 (GSM 3,2)



* iPhone 4 (GSM 3,1)



* iPhone 4 (CDMA)



* iPad Air (LTE)



* iPad Air (Wi-Fi)



* iPad Mini 2 with Retina (LTE)



* iPad Mini 2 with Retina (Wi-Fi)



* iPad 4 (GSM)

Re: DataMan

[Sean Paul]

Data man will not tell you which apps are running how much data unless it's 
changed since I last owned the app. One thing I noticed when I did own & use 
data man is that its numbers were vastly different from those which showed up 
on my bill each month. &, here's the rub folks. It doesn't matter what any app 
says, it comes down to what the bill says & that's what we have to pay. Yes, 
you can try to argue with them all you'd like but, unless you can prove that 
something is wrong on their end, you're simpply waisting your time in trying to 
do so.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Lange 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 23:32
  Subject: DataMan


  Hi,
  Over the last month I came within a hair's breadth of my 2-gig data limit on 
AT&T, which got me wondering what I was doing that cranked up my data usage.  
The two apps that I suspected right off were MLB At Bat and Seeing Eye GPS. As 
I was mulling this over I looked in the app store and read about DataMan and 
recall reading about it on the list quite a while back. I noticed different 
versions, including a pro version which cost a few bucks, as I recall.  Being 
total, I don't care about any fancy visual representations of which app is 
doing what and when, but I do want to know in straightforward text what apps 
are downloading the most data and when. Also, if some versions are questionable 
with VO I want to know which ones to avoid.  

  Suggestions, anybody?

  Thanks in advance.

  Tom


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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[David Chittenden]

This message was written entirely using the iOS keyboard with VO. I never lost 
my place while writing it because I understand what is going on and have become 
good at onscreen typing. I tried to tell you how to correct for the timing 
change Apple made, but you do not want any part of learning to adapt. However, 
to say it cannot be done or cannot be done quickly and well is completely 
wrong. I just proved so with this long message, so I am losing patience with 
your complaints. Unless I agree fully with you, I am wrong. No, this is not the 
case. You are wrong when you make exagerated statements because you are 
frustated. You don't like change, then don't change. But stop saying I am wrong 
because I adapt rather than just whining because certain things have changed. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Nov 2013, at 22:48, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I know it. I work with computers every day, and every hour of my life. 
> How ever,and despite who gets upset with my following words. IOs 7  brought 
> new things, but also it is the IOs with more bugs that I have seen. It is the 
> point that I don't like, why a company who charge almost 1000 dollars for a 
> phone, every IOs is getting more and more bugs? The response that every 
> operated system has bugs is a wrong answer. When we pay a little bit of 
> money, the service, or product that we are paying, will be like the amount 
> that we paid, very little. When we pay more money, to good companies, we are 
> expecting good things, products and services of high quality, not cheap 
> things, not operated systems with bunches of bugs. I don't understand why the 
> people who defend apple, is not able to understand that with this attitude 
> they are accepting high prices, by less quality. Later if we do not make 
> pression, the iPhones will be products of low quality. Now we are looking IOs 
> with so much bugs. Jesus, I am surprised with the things that I am reading in 
> the list, and in list in another countries in another languages, and here the 
> people defend positions that goes against themselves?
> No, come on. I am not able to write emails with my iPhone, and before I did 
> it so many times. So the response that it is because I don't know how move my 
> fingers, it is a very poor appraise of my capabilities, and I consider it 
> offensive.
> and not only against me, against every body in the list who is getting the 
> same problem.
> I don't know what they are gaining  defending some body that is keeping the 
> prices too high, but aat the same time they are reducing the quality.
> Later, later we will been conftable with poor and poor IOs, and never will 
> remember how it works before.And just to finish. I know that IOs never will 
> be perfect, but either it needs to be the worse. Look on internet, the 
> problems that blind and sighted people is getting with the last IOs. That 
> apple is a great product?
> Yes, and I hope that they continue making great things, and because of that I 
> am making presure on this matter.
> On 15 Nov 2013, at 01:22, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pablo,
>> Well, you didn’t understand right because nobody here has ever said that IOS 
>> 7.0.3 had no bugs.  In fact, IOS 7 will continue to have bugs until IOS8 
>> comes out and then there will be IOS 9 that will come out with bugs and this 
>> has been happening ever since computers have existed so you’d better start 
>> accepting that or leave the world of computers, otherwise you will never 
>> have peace of mind and never will be happy.   
>> Ron & Danvers
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Pablo Morales
>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4
>> I am surprised. I understood, here, in this email list. That IOs 7.0.3  has 
>> no bugs. But reading the emails related with this last update, and reading 
>> this last email. I am understanding that I wasn't wrong, when I said that 
>> IOs 7, has several bugs.
>> I glad to know, that I am not the only one who recognize that IOs 7, has 
>> several bugs, as the article says.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Fred Olver
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:14 PM
>> Subject: update IOS 7.0.4
>> Feed: OS X Daily
>> Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
>> Author: Paul Horowitz
>> Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download 
>> Links]
>> 
>> 
>> iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
>> touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes 
>> and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused 
>> video chat and voice calls to fail continuously under some circumstances. 
>> Other small feature changes may be present, but have not been specifically 
>> mention

Re: The dreaded VO volume bug revisited

[Chris H]

Reset all settings by going to settings general reset.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 15/11/2013 11:40, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi,
I have just encountered the ”voiceovers volume slider can’t be raiced over 35 
percent bug. Now i know there’s a workaround, but i can for the life of me not 
remember what to do. Could someone please remind me of what to do in this 
situation?
/Krister



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OOtunes recordings

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Is there a way to schedule a recording using OoTunes?  thanks.

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Re: iPad mini

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Chris,

Well, I just purchased an iPad mini for my wife this week. Of course she uses 
it most of the time, but I get to use it as well. It's really a nice unit. Very 
compact. It's a little tricky typing on it, but I'm picking it up. It's 
obviously different than using an iPhone will you have a smaller space to work 
with.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone
> just a quick message to say there might be an iPad mini owner in the family 
> at Christmas as I'm hoping my half brothers get one for Christmas from our 
> parents. Father rung me and asked what one can do with a wifi tablet and tole 
> them. I then gave a sort of a hint to consider the iPad or iPad mini for two 
> reasons.
> 1. They have an iPod Touch already so makes sense to get a tablet running on 
> the same platform.
> 2. Since I am a devoted Apple user and helper I will be able to offer help 
> for an iPad or iPad mini instead of what they liked the look of; a Samsung 
> tablet. Sorry to sneak that in there grin.
> Keep you posted as if they do get the mini I am hoping to feel and have a 
> brief play with it. Note they are not VoiceOver users but I am.
> Any comments welcome.
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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Christopher Chaltain]

and why would you think this? I'm just wondering what your reasoning is.

I see it myself in Feeddler, but others have reported similar problems 
in other apps. It also started with the upgrade to IOS 7.0, although I 
know this doesn't rule out a Feeddler bug.


I have reported it to Apple but not the Feeddler developer.

On 11/15/2013 08:18 AM, Alex Stone wrote:

I would suggest that the bug where it's jumping to the top of the screen in
Feedler, is a Feedler bug not an ios bug.

Cheers

Alex

  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: 15 November 2013 04:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4

  


I'm not sure what all bugs you're referring to, but none of the bugs I've
noticed have been resolved in 7.0.4. I still have the problem where the VO
focus will jump to the top of the screen when reading feeds in Feeddler. I
also still hear multiple locked announcements.



On 11/14/2013 10:11 PM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:

can I install the update from here in the UK or will I need to wait until I
return to the US to install the update?  Also does the update address the VO
bugs cited on the reflector?

  

  


Ray T. Mahorney

WA4WGA

M0WGA

  


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 23:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: update IOS 7.0.4

  


Feed: OS X Daily
Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: Paul Horowitz
Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download
Links]

  



iOS 7.0.4 download

iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod
touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes
and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused
video chat and voice calls
  to
fail continuously under some circumstances. Other small feature changes may
be present, but have not been specifically mentioned or discovered yet.

The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their
iOS devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the update
on their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, iPhone
4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad
Mini, Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5
is available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime
issues for that device.


Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA


For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use
the over-the-air update mechanism:


* Open "Settings" and go to "General", then to "Software Update"


* Choose "Download & Install" and agree to the terms and conditions
to begin the update


Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through
OTA, despite the delta update size being about 18MB. It may sit on
"Preparing Update..." for a while before completing, this seems to be
routine for just about every iOS device, just let it sit and it should
complete eventually.

Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download
the complete update through there.

Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files
  can also choose to
download IPSW files directly from Apple's servers using the links below,
then apply the update manually through iTunes. This is generally considered
more advanced and is best reserved for those who have experience with
updating through IPSW.


iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links


For best results, right-click the respective link and choose "Save As". Be
sure the file has a ".ipsw" extension when saved.


* iPhone 5 (GSM)



* iPhone 5 (CDMA)



* iPhone 5S (GSM)



* iPhone 5S (CDMA)



* iPhone 5C(GSM)



* iPhone 5C (CDMA)



* iPhone 4S



* iPhone 4 (GSM 3,2)



* iPhone 4 (GSM 3,1)



* iPhone 4 (CDMA)
<

Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Christopher Chaltain]

I think Pablo was being facetious, which I don't think is such a good 
idea for a mailing list. I don't think it helps though to call him or 
others on list whiners, and I don't think it helps to return 
facetiousness with sarcasm. It'll just perpetuate the pointless list 
traffic if not even make it worse.


BTW, I had three different Nokia phones, and I didn't have any of the 
troubles you described with any of them. People on this list have also 
had to return their iPhones, so I'm not sure your experience with your 
Nokia phone has any bearing on this discussion.


On 11/15/2013 03:42 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:
I think we should really should write down a wish list for Christmas. 
Lets go back to Nokia 3310 phone. No bug, No talks, nothing. There. 
Maybe that will please some of the whiners here.
Hang on a minute, when i first got my very first Nokia 3310, i got to 
sent my phone to Nokia itself, because it crashes after 5 minutes of 
turning the phone on. Then did gave me a new phone though, which, 
either i can go without vibration or silent with vibration onn. 3rd 
time got lucky right? :)



Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

On 15 Nov 2013, at 11:52, Ron Pelletier > wrote:



Hi Pablo,

Well, you didn’t understand right because nobody here has ever said 
that IOS 7.0.3 had no bugs.  In fact, IOS 7 will continue to have 
bugs until IOS8 comes out and then there will be IOS 9 that will come 
out with bugs and this has been happening ever since computers have 
existed so you’d better start accepting that or leave the world of 
computers, otherwise you will never have peace of mind and never will 
be happy.


Ron & Danvers

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Morales

*Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:43 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: update IOS 7.0.4

I am surprised. I understood, here, in this email list. That IOs 
7.0.3  has no bugs. But reading the emails related with this last 
update, and reading this last email. I am understanding that I wasn't 
wrong, when I said that IOs 7, has several bugs.


I glad to know, that I am not the only one who recognize that IOs 7, 
has several bugs, as the article says.


- Original Message -

*From:*Fred Olver 

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com 

*Sent:*Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:14 PM

*Subject:*update IOS 7.0.4

*Feed:*OS X Daily
*Posted on:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
*Author:* Paul Horowitz
*Subject:* iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW
Direct Download Links]



iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad,
and iPod touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update
includes several bug fixes and improvements, and addresses an
issue with FaceTime calling that caused video chat and voice
calls

to fail continuously under some circumstances. Other small
feature changes may be present, but have not been specifically
mentioned or discovered yet.

The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to
backup their iOS devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before
installing the update on their respective hardware. The update is
available for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone
5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad Mini, Retina iPad
Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5 is
available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same
FaceTime issues for that device.


  Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA

*For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their
devices is to use the over-the-air update mechanism:*


  ·Open “Settings” and go to “General”, then to “Software Update”


  ·Choose “Download & Install” and agree to the terms and
  conditions to begin the update

*Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the
update through OTA, despite the delta update size being about
18MB. It may sit on “Preparing Update…” for a while before
completing, this seems to be routine for just about every iOS
device, just let it sit and it should complete eventually.*

*Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes
and download the complete update through there. *

*Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files
 can also
choose to download IPSW files directly from Apple’s servers using
the links below, then apply the update manually through iTunes.
This is generally considered more advanced and is best reserved
for 

RE: DataMan

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

 

I had a problem like that a little while ago and it turned out to be that I
had not paid too much attention and didn't realize that my Wi-Fi was not
connecting.  When I did pay attention and realized what had happened, I was
at my limit and that was simply from updating apps and such.  That is worth
paying attention to.

 

Having said that, I would expect that both the apps you mentioned are the
ones picking up your data usage.  Watching out for how much you are using
these apps is one solution and the other, of course, would be to increase
your 2 gigs to three.  I don't know about your provider but, mine notified
me when I was at my limit before they started charging and that is what woke
me up to the fact that something was wrong.

 

Ron & Danvers

  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: DataMan

 

Hi,

Over the last month I came within a hair's breadth of my 2-gig data limit on
AT&T, which got me wondering what I was doing that cranked up my data usage.
The two apps that I suspected right off were MLB At Bat and Seeing Eye GPS.
As I was mulling this over I looked in the app store and read about DataMan
and recall reading about it on the list quite a while back. I noticed
different versions, including a pro version which cost a few bucks, as I
recall.  Being total, I don't care about any fancy visual representations of
which app is doing what and when, but I do want to know in straightforward
text what apps are downloading the most data and when. Also, if some
versions are questionable with VO I want to know which ones to avoid.  

 

Suggestions, anybody?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Tom

 

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Re: Object recognition apps

[Sandratomkins]

Try CamFind
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15 Nov 2013, at 03:02, david gross  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> I have had no success with the goggles on my iPhone 4s. Now that TapTapSee is 
> no longer free what would anyone recommend as an alternative application for 
> object recognition?
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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Wil James]

The jumping to the top of the screen isn't a specific app thing, it's iOS 
related.  I get that in Mail, safari, Tweetlist, Twitterific, and a host of 
other apps.  Hopefully, iOS 7.1 will fix this oddity.



Sent from my iPad Mini

> On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:18 AM, "Alex Stone"  wrote:
> 
> I would suggest that the bug where it's jumping to the top of the screen in
> Feedler, is a Feedler bug not an ios bug.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: 15 November 2013 04:26
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4
> 
> 
> 
> I'm not sure what all bugs you're referring to, but none of the bugs I've
> noticed have been resolved in 7.0.4. I still have the problem where the VO
> focus will jump to the top of the screen when reading feeds in Feeddler. I
> also still hear multiple locked announcements.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/14/2013 10:11 PM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
> 
> can I install the update from here in the UK or will I need to wait until I
> return to the US to install the update?  Also does the update address the VO
> bugs cited on the reflector?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ray T. Mahorney
> 
> WA4WGA
> 
> M0WGA
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Fred Olver
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 23:14
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: update IOS 7.0.4
> 
> 
> 
> Feed: OS X Daily
> Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
> Author: Paul Horowitz
> Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download
> Links]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 download
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod
> touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes
> and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused
> video chat and voice calls
>   to
> fail continuously under some circumstances. Other small feature changes may
> be present, but have not been specifically mentioned or discovered yet.
> 
> The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their
> iOS devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the update
> on their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, iPhone
> 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad
> Mini, Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5
> is available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime
> issues for that device.
> 
> 
> Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA
> 
> 
> For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use
> the over-the-air update mechanism:
> 
> 
> * Open "Settings" and go to "General", then to "Software Update"
> 
> 
> * Choose "Download & Install" and agree to the terms and conditions
> to begin the update
> 
> 
> Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through
> OTA, despite the delta update size being about 18MB. It may sit on
> "Preparing Update..." for a while before completing, this seems to be
> routine for just about every iOS device, just let it sit and it should
> complete eventually.
> 
> Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download
> the complete update through there. 
> 
> Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files
>   can also choose to
> download IPSW files directly from Apple's servers using the links below,
> then apply the update manually through iTunes. This is generally considered
> more advanced and is best reserved for those who have experience with
> updating through IPSW.
> 
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links
> 
> 
> For best results, right-click the respective link and choose "Save As". Be
> sure the file has a ".ipsw" extension when saved.
> 
> 
> * iPhone 5 (GSM)
>  54a_Restore.ipsw>  
> 
> 
> * iPhone 5 (CDMA)
>  54a_Restore.ipsw>  
> 
> 
> * iPhone 5S (GSM)
>  54a_Restore.ipsw>  
> 
> 
> * iPhone 5S (CDMA)
>  54a_Restore.ipsw>  
> 
> 
> * iPhone 5C(GSM)
>  54a_Restore.ipsw>  
> 
> 
> * iPhone 5C (CDMA)
>  54a_Restore.ipsw>  
> 
> 
> * iPhone 4S
>  54a_Restore.ipsw>  
> 
> 
> * iPhone 4 (GSM 3,2)
> 

Gesture for turning on Zoom

[Pinky]

Hi list.

 

I am having a brain fart this morning.  I can't remember what the gesture is
for turning on Zoom with VO on.  Can someone please provide me with that
gesture.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Ed

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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Teresa Cochran]

I think it’s a good idea to keep in mind that updates also have security fixes, 
even though specific accessibility issues aren’t addressed. If there’s a 
security fix, I always update.

HtH,
Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Wil James  wrote:

> The jumping to the top of the screen isn't a specific app thing, it's iOS 
> related.  I get that in Mail, safari, Tweetlist, Twitterific, and a host of 
> other apps.  Hopefully, iOS 7.1 will fix this oddity.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad Mini
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:18 AM, "Alex Stone"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I would suggest that the bug where it's jumping to the top of the screen in
>> Feedler, is a Feedler bug not an ios bug.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Alex
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: 15 November 2013 04:26
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not sure what all bugs you're referring to, but none of the bugs I've
>> noticed have been resolved in 7.0.4. I still have the problem where the VO
>> focus will jump to the top of the screen when reading feeds in Feeddler. I
>> also still hear multiple locked announcements.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/14/2013 10:11 PM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
>> 
>> can I install the update from here in the UK or will I need to wait until I
>> return to the US to install the update?  Also does the update address the VO
>> bugs cited on the reflector?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> 
>> WA4WGA
>> 
>> M0WGA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Fred Olver
>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 23:14
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: update IOS 7.0.4
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Feed: OS X Daily
>> Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
>> Author: Paul Horowitz
>> Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download
>> Links]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> iOS 7.0.4 download
>> 
>> iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod
>> touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes
>> and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused
>> video chat and voice calls
>>   to
>> fail continuously under some circumstances. Other small feature changes may
>> be present, but have not been specifically mentioned or discovered yet.
>> 
>> The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their
>> iOS devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the update
>> on their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, iPhone
>> 4S, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad
>> Mini, Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5
>> is available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime
>> issues for that device.
>> 
>> 
>> Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA
>> 
>> 
>> For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use
>> the over-the-air update mechanism:
>> 
>> 
>> * Open "Settings" and go to "General", then to "Software Update"
>> 
>> 
>> * Choose "Download & Install" and agree to the terms and conditions
>> to begin the update
>> 
>> 
>> Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through
>> OTA, despite the delta update size being about 18MB. It may sit on
>> "Preparing Update..." for a while before completing, this seems to be
>> routine for just about every iOS device, just let it sit and it should
>> complete eventually.
>> 
>> Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download
>> the complete update through there. 
>> 
>> Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files
>>   can also choose to
>> download IPSW files directly from Apple's servers using the links below,
>> then apply the update manually through iTunes. This is generally considered
>> more advanced and is best reserved for those who have experience with
>> updating through IPSW.
>> 
>> 
>> iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links
>> 
>> 
>> For best results, right-click the respective link and choose "Save As". Be
>> sure the file has a ".ipsw" extension when saved.
>> 
>> 
>> * iPhone 5 (GSM)
>> > 54a_Restore.ipsw>  
>> 
>> 
>> * iPhone 5 (CDMA)
>> > 54a_Restore.ipsw>  
>> 
>> 
>> * iPhone 5S (GSM)
>> > 54a_Restore.ipsw>  
>> 
>> 
>> * iPhone 5S (CDMA)
>> > 5

labeling photos

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi, all.  Some time ago someone sent information about how to label photos
with voice over. I know you double tap and hold to bring up the text field,
but can't remember the exact steps.  Could someone help refresh my old
memory, please?  Do you have to be in the photo before you label?  Thanks
very much.  

God bless!

Paula and Babe

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Re: Object recognition apps

[Joanne Chua]

When i use TapTapSee on wednesday afternoon Australia time, it was free. In 
fact, i was using Tap Tap See, VizWiz and Talking Goggle for an experiment with 
3 different objects. Which, i'll write up the experiment report in details 
later today.

In summary, all three apps give me very similar result, with various time frame 
and speed and accuracy, or at least, the accuracy on the result and answer i 
want.

VizWiz is a good free alternative for Tap Tap See, if you willing to take the 
chance that your object may get reconize  in 30 seconds, 1, 5, 10 minutes so on.
Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

> On 15 Nov 2013, at 13:32, david gross  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> I have had no success with the goggles on my iPhone 4s. Now that TapTapSee is 
> no longer free what would anyone recommend as an alternative application for 
> object recognition?
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Annoyances in notification center

[Alexandra - Keinohrhasenfan]

Hello,

there's one thing within notification center on my iPhone 4S running iOS 
7.0.3 that really annoys me. Whenever I'm reading the news in the 
notification center and a new notification pops in, the VoiceOver curser 
automatically jumps back to the very first entry. This way, I accidently 
deleted the previously incoming notifications. Another thing is that if an 
app dares to send you more than three notifications, you can only read three 
of them. When you want to check out notification number four, the cursor 
jumps back to a previous or next notification. If you swipe any further, you 
will be thrown back to the first 1-2 entries. This used to work much better 
on iOS 6. Another problem is that when you receive notifications from more 
than 7-8 apps, only some apps are shown. Afterwards, the notification center 
appears to be empty. If you re-open it, you will find old notifications from 
the day before that should have shown up already. In short, the notification 
center is fine as long as you don't have too many apps that send you push 
messages, and the apps themselves only send out about three messages.

Regards,

Alexandra 

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voice book

[janet wright]

hi is any one having trouble with voic book? it says it can’t connect to 
face book
*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
wait on the blessing he has in store for me!

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RE: red laser

[Jerry MAder]

I can't get red laser to work at all. Having trouble trying to use it on a
box of minute rice, no luck. Never get any tones indicating I have found a
barcode or anything and I scanned the top and bottom and sides of the box
even the corners.
No luck!
Jerry Mader

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandratomkins
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: red laser

I wonder, do you have the latest update?
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:46, "Alan Paganelli" 
wrote:
> 
> On my version of red lazor, there is a button labeled "bolt"  Why's that?
Beats me but if I double tap that, it takes the picture.
> 
> HTH
> ---
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alan
> 
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
> 
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> 
> Please click on:
> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
listening!
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Patti Johnson" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:42 AM
> Subject: red laser
> 
> 
>> I downloaded the app but can't get it to take any picture.  I have the
video part turned on, the light on, and yet I can't get it to snap a
picture.
>> I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
>> Patti
>> 
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Property of radio button, uncheck. VbNet

[Helena Fehr]

Hi! Try finding the radio button that you want to uncheck on the screen of your 
iPhone, and then double-tapp it. Let's say it's a yes or no radio button. You'd 
find the button and double tap it, and it might just say yes radio button or no 
radio button if it is not checked, and if it is, it'll probably say yes radio 
button checked or no radio button checked. My guess is though that is it's a 
yes or no button, or one of those things where you have to choose to agree or 
disagree to the license agreement when you install stuff or all that, you will 
have to check whichever button to uncheck the one that isn't already checked. 
Of course if you select the disagree or decline button you can't install the 
thing, in which case you'll have to select the agree or accept button to 
uncheck the disagree or decline buttons. There. Does that make sense? Usually 
you can double tap to uncheck or check a radio button, but in some cases like 
the license agreement example, you have to select another button to uncheck the 
one you want.
Hope this helps.

God Bless!!!
Helena

May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
(Numbers 6;24)

In Jesus' Name.
Amen

Helena Fehr
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Adding favorites in IHeart Radio

[Carla Kay Etheredge]

Hello group,

I’m having trouble finding where to add a live radio station to my favorites in 
IHeart? I see a button in the top left and right corners, then Info, stop, 
scan, options and of course volume down towards the bottom of the screen.  Just 
above those, I see a buy button.  Other than the thumb up and thumb down 
buttons, I’m not sure where this feature is? I don’t see it in the options menu 
where it used to be.  Any help would b appreciated!!

Carla Kay Etheredge
ckethere...@inebraska.com


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RE: red laser

[Jerry MAder]

Where can I find a bar code, or qr code on say, a bottle of flavored
creamer? I want to see if Red laser picks it up. DO I move the phone around
to find the code or move the bottle keeping the phone steady?
Thanks
Jerry Mader

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: red laser

Actually, you're in the right place. I don't know what multi scan is, so I
leave it off, but now your phone is looking for a code. Just show it a bar
code and you should be off and running.
On Nov 12, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

> No, it's red Laser, it talks about adding favorite store, sounds are on,
cards, cscan, more nearby stores, back it  up, top coupons, etc, in the home
screen.  whem I tap on the navigation button it seems to take a few seconds.
which I just did; now it says home, search, scan, favorites, lists, history,
qr codes, store alerts, settings and a bout inhelp.
> If I go into scan which by the way none of these options say button; I
hear cancel button, light off, which I assume needs to be on; multi scan,
switch button off, which I again assume needs to be on; then it says center
to barcode then tap to focus, avoid glare and shadows.
> Sounds like I really goofed this app up.
> Patti
> On 11/12/2013 5:56 PM, Sandratomkins wrote:
>> Patti,
>> I know this will sound really stupid, but are you actually using
RedLaser? What you seem to be describing is TapTapSee. Is it possible you
are loading the wrong app?
>> Sandy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 22:37, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> how do you get it to go back to where it says video or still camera?  I
set it for video, was that wrong?
>>> Why doesn't it keep the light on when you are done with it, so you ha ve
to turn it on every time?
>>> I may have really messed this up, grin.
>>> Patti
>>> 
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Re: DataMan

[Kathy Metters]

  Hi Tom
That is an excellent app. I've been using it for a long time now. It does 
excellent it's easy to use very simple. In the thing about it is it gives you 
not only the data usage but also Wi-Fi usage is excellent I have a paid 
version. And it works fine a great investment

Katie Lady 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Over the last month I came within a hair's breadth of my 2-gig data limit on 
> AT&T, which got me wondering what I was doing that cranked up my data usage.  
> The two apps that I suspected right off were MLB At Bat and Seeing Eye GPS. 
> As I was mulling this over I looked in the app store and read about DataMan 
> and recall reading about it on the list quite a while back. I noticed 
> different versions, including a pro version which cost a few bucks, as I 
> recall.  Being total, I don't care about any fancy visual representations of 
> which app is doing what and when, but I do want to know in straightforward 
> text what apps are downloading the most data and when. Also, if some versions 
> are questionable with VO I want to know which ones to avoid. 
>  
> Suggestions, anybody?
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Tom
>  
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Re: update IOS 7.0.4

[Joanne Chua]

Any report if this update solve the problem with either VO is awfully loud on 
phone calls and other audio driven apps such as Papa Sangre etc?
I found that since update to 7, i need to put VO volume under 30% to have a 
decent phone conversation, and have vo volume on 5%  when playing Papa Sengre.

Joanne Chua
The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
Send from my iPad

> On 16 Nov 2013, at 2:11, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have not seen anything to do with accessibility having been addressed in 
> 7.0.4  I will examine further over the next few hours but haven’t seen 
> anything yet that addresses any of the complaints I have heard on this list.
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: update IOS 7.0.4
>  
> I'm not sure what all bugs you're referring to, but none of the bugs I've 
> noticed have been resolved in 7.0.4. I still have the problem where the VO 
> focus will jump to the top of the screen when reading feeds in Feeddler. I 
> also still hear multiple locked announcements.
> 
> 
> On 11/14/2013 10:11 PM, Ray T. Mahorney wrote:
> can I install the update from here in the UK or will I need to wait until I 
> return to the US to install the update?  Also does the update address the VO 
> bugs cited on the reflector?
>  
>  
> Ray T. Mahorney
> WA4WGA
> M0WGA
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Fred Olver
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 23:14
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: update IOS 7.0.4
>  
> Feed: OS X Daily
> Posted on: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:39 PM
> Author: Paul Horowitz
> Subject: iOS 7.0.4 Download Released with Bug Fixes [IPSW Direct Download 
> Links]
>  
> 
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 has been released by Apple for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod 
> touch models, with a build of 11B554a. The update includes several bug fixes 
> and improvements, and addresses an issue with FaceTime calling that caused 
> video chat and voice calls to fail continuously under some circumstances. 
> Other small feature changes may be present, but have not been specifically 
> mentioned or discovered yet.
> 
> The iOS 7.0.4 update is small but users are still advised to backup their iOS 
> devices to iCloud or iTunes, if not both, before installing the update on 
> their respective hardware. The update is available for iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, 
> iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5C, iPad 2, iPad 3, iPad 4, iPad Air, iPad Mini, 
> Retina iPad Mini, and the iPod touch 5th gen. Additionally, iOS 6.1.5 is 
> available for the iPod touch 4th gen, which resolves the same FaceTime issues 
> for that device.
> 
> Download iOS 7.0.4 with OTA
> 
> For most users, the easiest way to get iOS 7.0.4 on their devices is to use 
> the over-the-air update mechanism:
> 
> · Open “Settings” and go to “General”, then to “Software Update”
> 
> · Choose “Download & Install” and agree to the terms and conditions 
> to begin the update
> 
> Users must be on a wi-fi network to be able to download the update through 
> OTA, despite the delta update size being about 18MB. It may sit on “Preparing 
> Update…” for a while before completing, this seems to be routine for just 
> about every iOS device, just let it sit and it should complete eventually.
> 
> Another option is to connect a device to a computer with iTunes and download 
> the complete update through there.
> 
> Experienced users who are comfortable using firmware files can also choose to 
> download IPSW files directly from Apple’s servers using the links below, then 
> apply the update manually through iTunes. This is generally considered more 
> advanced and is best reserved for those who have experience with updating 
> through IPSW.
> 
> iOS 7.0.4 IPSW Direct Download Links
> 
> For best results, right-click the respective link and choose “Save As”. Be 
> sure the file has a “.ipsw” extension when saved.
> 
> · iPhone 5 (GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 5S (GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5S (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 5C(GSM)
> 
> · iPhone 5C (CDMA)
> 
> · iPhone 4S
> 
> · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,2)
> 
> · iPhone 4 (GSM 3,1)
> 
> · iPhone 4 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad Air (LTE)
> 
> · iPad Air (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (LTE)
> 
> · iPad Mini 2 with Retina (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad 4 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 4 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 4 (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad Mini (GSM)
> 
> · iPad Mini (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 3 (Wi-Fi)
> 
> · iPad 3 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 3 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPad 2 (Wi-Fi 2,4)
> 
> · iPad 2 (Wi-Fi 2,1)
> 
> · iPad 2 (GSM)
> 
> · iPad 2 (CDMA)
> 
> · iPod touch (5th gen)

Re: iPad mini

[Chris H]

Speaking of typing have you tried it in landscape orientation? Thinking 
one would be able to type with both hands then. I've also been told of a 
split keyboard feature. What does this exactly do with regards to 
VoiceOver and keyboard interactivity?


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On 15/11/2013 13:29, Les Kriegler wrote:

Hi Chris,

Well, I just purchased an iPad mini for my wife this week. Of course she uses 
it most of the time, but I get to use it as well. It's really a nice unit. Very 
compact. It's a little tricky typing on it, but I'm picking it up. It's 
obviously different than using an iPhone will you have a smaller space to work 
with.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Chris H  wrote:

Hello everyone
just a quick message to say there might be an iPad mini owner in the family at 
Christmas as I'm hoping my half brothers get one for Christmas from our 
parents. Father rung me and asked what one can do with a wifi tablet and tole 
them. I then gave a sort of a hint to consider the iPad or iPad mini for two 
reasons.
1. They have an iPod Touch already so makes sense to get a tablet running on 
the same platform.
2. Since I am a devoted Apple user and helper I will be able to offer help for 
an iPad or iPad mini instead of what they liked the look of; a Samsung tablet. 
Sorry to sneak that in there grin.
Keep you posted as if they do get the mini I am hoping to feel and have a brief 
play with it. Note they are not VoiceOver users but I am.
Any comments welcome.

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Re: Gesture for turning on Zoom

[Alex Hall]

If memory serves, it is a three-finger double or triple tap. No, I think it is 
triple, and you use a double tap and hold with three fingers to adjust the zoom 
level.
On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Pinky  wrote:

> Hi list.
>  
> I am having a brain fart this morning.  I can’t remember what the gesture is 
> for turning on Zoom with VO on.  Can someone please provide me with that 
> gesture.
>  
> Thanks in advance
>  
> Ed
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Re: red laser

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I played around with Red Laser yesterday. It's important to have good lighting. 
I know it has been suggested in this topic to turn on the light within REd 
Laser. This is located in the upper right hand corner, just under the battery 
percentage. Locating the barcode seems to be problematic at times even with 
comparing it with Digit-Eyes. Sometimes, when you think the barcode should be 
in the logical place it isn't. I don't know what kinds of things you are trying 
to barcode, but when I am dealing with cans, I place a rolled towel in front 
and in the back to stabilize it and move the can instead of the phone. This way 
I can keep two hands on the phone making sure that it is straight in the 
horizontal plane. HTH. 

Eileen 
On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:02 PM, "Jerry MAder"  wrote:

> I can't get red laser to work at all. Having trouble trying to use it on a
> box of minute rice, no luck. Never get any tones indicating I have found a
> barcode or anything and I scanned the top and bottom and sides of the box
> even the corners.
> No luck!
> Jerry Mader
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sandratomkins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: red laser
> 
> I wonder, do you have the latest update?
> Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2013, at 20:46, "Alan Paganelli" 
> wrote:
>> 
>> On my version of red lazor, there is a button labeled "bolt"  Why's that?
> Beats me but if I double tap that, it takes the picture.
>> 
>> HTH
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>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>> 
>> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>> 
>> Please click on:
>> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
>> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
> formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
> listening!
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Patti Johnson" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:42 AM
>> Subject: red laser
>> 
>> 
>>> I downloaded the app but can't get it to take any picture.  I have the
> video part turned on, the light on, and yet I can't get it to snap a
> picture.
>>> I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
>>> Patti
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Re: red laser

[Alex Hall]

First, be sure you have the flash on, as this seems to help a whole lot. 
Second, try different distances. My iPhone5 seems to like six to ten inches 
away, but different cameras may need slightly different distances. If possible, 
get an item and have someone tell you where the code is, then practice scanning 
that so you can get a feel for where the phone needs to be to get a good scan.
On Nov 13, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Jerry MAder  wrote:

> Where can I find a bar code, or qr code on say, a bottle of flavored
> creamer? I want to see if Red laser picks it up. DO I move the phone around
> to find the code or move the bottle keeping the phone steady?
> Thanks
> Jerry Mader
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 7:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: red laser
> 
> Actually, you're in the right place. I don't know what multi scan is, so I
> leave it off, but now your phone is looking for a code. Just show it a bar
> code and you should be off and running.
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
>> No, it's red Laser, it talks about adding favorite store, sounds are on,
> cards, cscan, more nearby stores, back it  up, top coupons, etc, in the home
> screen.  whem I tap on the navigation button it seems to take a few seconds.
> which I just did; now it says home, search, scan, favorites, lists, history,
> qr codes, store alerts, settings and a bout inhelp.
>> If I go into scan which by the way none of these options say button; I
> hear cancel button, light off, which I assume needs to be on; multi scan,
> switch button off, which I again assume needs to be on; then it says center
> to barcode then tap to focus, avoid glare and shadows.
>> Sounds like I really goofed this app up.
>> Patti
>> On 11/12/2013 5:56 PM, Sandratomkins wrote:
>>> Patti,
>>> I know this will sound really stupid, but are you actually using
> RedLaser? What you seem to be describing is TapTapSee. Is it possible you
> are loading the wrong app?
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 12 Nov 2013, at 22:37, Patti Johnson  wrote:
 
 how do you get it to go back to where it says video or still camera?  I
> set it for video, was that wrong?
 Why doesn't it keep the light on when you are done with it, so you ha ve
> to turn it on every time?
 I may have really messed this up, grin.
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Re: voice book

[Candy Lowe]

I haven't been able to connect to voice book in weeks.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2013, at 9:04 AM, "janet wright"  wrote:
> 
> hi is any one having trouble with voic book? it says it can’t connect to face 
> book
> *** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
> wait on the blessing he has in store for me!
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Re: Gesture for turning on Zoom

[Pete Nalda]

Double tap with 3 fingers to engage it, then double tap and hold up-and-down,  
again with 3 fingers, to change magnification.

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> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> If memory serves, it is a three-finger double or triple tap. No, I think it 
> is triple, and you use a double tap and hold with three fingers to adjust the 
> zoom level.
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Pinky  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi list.
>>  
>> I am having a brain fart this morning.  I can’t remember what the gesture is 
>> for turning on Zoom with VO on.  Can someone please provide me with that 
>> gesture.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance
>>  
>> Ed
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ringtones and sounds

[buddy liverman]

i like ringtones and sounds on my phone especially sound effects where 
do i get them? thanks Buddy.


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Re: PC repair from Microsoft for people with disabilities

[Anthony Vece]

Christopher;

I'd rather read messages like this one than read all the negative jazz about 
Apple.

And, the message was short.

Although it may be off topic, it still does most, if not all of us a service.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I appreciate the information, but I don't think it's on topic for an iPhone 
> mailing list. this isn't a mailing list for Macs or all things Apple. I also 
> don't think it's on topic just because you can run iTunes on Windows. I know 
> no one has stated this yet, but I've seen people make some pretty 
> complicated relationships to basically defeat any effort to keep a list on 
> topic.
> 
> This is just my opinion, and the real opinion that counts is that of the 
> moderator and owner of this list.
> 
>> On 11/14/2013 06:10 PM, Joe wrote:
>> I’ve also tried it, and although they were not able to fix my issue, they 
>> spent almost an hour trying. It would seem on topic considering it’s 
>> possible to run Windows on Macs.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Pinky
>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: PC repair from Microsoft for people with disabilities
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Group.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I know this is a little off topic but I think it very important for people 
>> using Microsoft products and assistive technology.  Microsoft  has a free 
>> service that you can call and they will fix any issues on your pc over the 
>> internet for people using assistive technology.  I called them three 
>> different time and had my old lap top fix and also my Win seven pc.  I had 
>> Outlook 2010 fix and other issues.   Check this link out below which is a 
>> Microsoft web page.  I know this sounds like it cannot be true but it is. 
>> They started this service in January of this year.  Also remember this is 
>> totally  a free service.
>> 
>> http://support.microsoft.com/gp/contact-microsoft-accessibility
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ed.
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Re: ibooks and kindle content on iTunes library

[Mary Otten]

I don't believe it is possible to get Kindle books into your iTunes library 
unless you first break the DRM. There's a program called caliber that will let 
you do this, but it's not accessible. At least not as far as I am aware. Good 
luck.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Joanne Chua  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have about 500 books on my iBooks and more on my Kindle apps.
> When i try to search for it on my iTunes library, under books, it only show a 
> third of my iBooks content. However, i can retrieve the all of iBooks content 
> across devices.
> How can i make sure that my itunes library is fully sync with my iBooks 
> app?Also,  where can i retrieve my Kindle contents on my iTunes library?
> I've iTunes sync over wifi turn on, as well as iCloud data and content sync 
> set to on.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Joanne Chua
> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate
> Send from my iPad
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previous downloaded audio books.

[Christopher huby]

hi all,

this may have been covered previously but cant find the answer any where.

is there a way we can re download audio books that i purchased using my old 
iphone 4 using my iphone 5s with out using a computer.

if so please could some one tell me how i can do this.

if some one could help i would be most grateful.

Regards 

Christopher Huby
tel no: 07562729946
Email 1: christopher.h...@blueyonder.co.uk 
email 2: christopher.h...@hotmail.co.uk

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Re: property of radioButton, uncheck. VB.net

[Bryan Schulz]

hi,

you don't understand the control.
maybe at first load all choices could be unselected but when the user starts 
clicking, one of them will always be selected.

you may want to add a choice that says none or some other text.
Bryan Schulz


- Original Message - 
From: "Pablo Morales" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:10 AM
Subject: property of radioButton, uncheck. VB.net



Good morning all.
I am looking how uncheck a radio button. For example; is a user who is
blind is using jaws or NVDA, to read the group of radio buttons, the
user has to press down arrow, or up arrow, but in this case, the user
will be checking each choice that they want to read. Is a way to un
check a radio button, without select another radio button?
Thanks
Pablo

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RE: Sendero GPS LookAround app is now free

[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

Is an Internet connection required for this app to work?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sendero GPS LookAround app is now free

Hi Eileen,
The Sendero GPS LookAround app has simpler interface than Blind Square with
only three button options. You basically get information about the direction
you are facing, nearby address, and nearest cross street when the app is
running. So, if I shake my iPhone, there will be a sound indicating update,
and I'll hear something like "Facing southwest near some street address and
part of city location, along with an announcement of what my nearest cross
street is, like, "Nearest cross street is Main Street near Fourth Street.".
You don't get information about the direction of the nearest intersection or
what is in any particular direction.  I don't use the nearest 5 points of
interest, because in most of my locations the information has been
extraneous, out of date, or wrong in earlier versions of the app, but this
can be useful in a large downtown area where there are standard landmarks.

The button options are "LookAround", "Nearest Cross Street", and "Nearest 5
points of interest".  These are more easily accessed via the "shake gesture"
that can be set to report "direction", "nearest cross street", and "nearest
POI".  All three options are enabled in Settings by default.  You can also
separately double tap the "Compass" button at the bottom of the screen, and
have it update just the current direction you are facing.

One annoyance under the iPad version under iOS 7 is that the button for
switching between normal mode and full screen mode (in the case of iPhone
apps) is moved to be in the top right corner, so focus under iOS 7 always
moves there after you shake or double tap a button.  You always hear VO say
"Switch to normal mode" as focus now lands on this button, because this is
an iPhone only app.  Before iOS 7 focus would be on the part of the screen
where the LookAround or nearest cross street or compass I formation would be
announced.  I'd be curious if everyone, even those who paid for the earlier
version of this app, has to listen to the announcement about how to find out
more about the Seeing Eye GPS app when they start this up.  I haven't found
any way to turn this off, but my iPhone is still running the version before
the app went free.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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Cant send sms

[Jonathan de Asis]

After update my iphone 4s to ios 7 i cant send sms to anyone, pls give me a 
solution on this problem

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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

[simon wong]

I don't see why when you guys report a bug or flaw in their system of the phone 
while you're doing it to the list why don't you CC a copy to the Apple people

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-11-11, at 1:53 PM, "Christopher Chaltain"  wrote:

> I don't think this is what you're saying, but I think we need to be careful 
> here. Accessibility isn't something that were given as a charity and 
> something we should feel grateful for when someone provides it. Accessibility 
> is a right that we should be demanding. Of course, we should be positive and 
> cooperative when someone is working towards accessibility, but we shouldn't 
> just accept whatever comes our way. For example, We shouldn't settle for 
> Mobile Accessibility on Windows Phone 8 and stop pressing Microsoft for 
> greater access to Windows Phone 8 just because they were kind enough to toss 
> us this accessible scrap.
> 
> It's also a fact that there are accessibility related bugs in IOS 7. People 
> should be bringing these up on list and reporting them to Apple. There may be 
> cases when one person's bug is another person's feature and one person's 
> reporting of an issue is whining to someone else. I don't think accusations 
> of whining and complaining should keep people from mentioning perceived bugs 
> and issues they're having with IOS. I too get frustrated with what I see as 
> people's whining, but I'm hesitant to say where that line should be drawn, 
> and I think we should be careful when we chastise someone for being spoiled 
> and whining. Like I said, we want people talking about the issues they're 
> having with their iPhones because as good as the Iphone is, it could still be 
> better and it could definitely get worse if Apple feels it has to redirect 
> resources away from accessibility and towards other critical projects.
> 
> On 11/11/2013 02:04 AM, BBS wrote:
>> John and Sieghard, I agree with you guys completely. Like it says in my 
>> Skype mood message, some blind people are so spoiled. And it’s true, because 
>> look at this thread. We should be lucky that Apple is giving us a pretty 
>> good screen reader. I’m just tired of reading threads about people bitching 
>> and complaining about Apple not living up to their standards. Even on the 
>> Mac list we have people demanding that Apple do this and do that to make 
>> Voiceover live up to their standards. I’m tired of this. I think if I find 
>> another post about this thread, I’m gonna hit the delete button because that 
>> is my friend of course. I’ll just end off by saying if you don’t like Apple, 
>> sell your Mac and your iPhone and go to Windows and Android. Now that my 
>> rant’s over, Regina, I have an iPhone 4S and I’m not experiencing any wifi 
>> issues.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>> 
>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:17 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think that Sieghard
>>> put it well. I am very tired of listening to people complaining about
>>> their phones and the problems they are having. If you are so unhappy
>>> with Apple or your IPhone sell it and buy an android phone. For the
>>> vast majority of the blind people using this technology it works quite
>>> well. Yes their are bugs but they exist with all technology products.
>>> At least with the IPhone we have the option to upgrade when a new
>>> version of their software comes out. We are not at the mercy of the
>>> phone carriers or manufacturers as to whether they will let us
>>> upgrade. All in all this technology works well. It has provided us the
>>> ability to do much more with our phones than we thought possible just
>>> a few short years ago.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/10/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
 Thank you for that summary. I just started reading this thread.
 
 The only point I can confirm is item 3. VO has a difficult time tracking in
 Safari when filling out complex forms. To be fair, many of the forms VO
 struggles with are also extremely difficult on the computer. They have 
 quite
 a bit to do with newer web technologies. Other places where VO struggles
 appear to not move the visual page on the display as one flicks through the
 form using right flicks. When the button or edit box is not on the visual
 screen, it will not activate with a double or even, triple tap. However,
 there is a work-around that works for most websites I have tried. 
 Physically
 find the edit field and hold your finger on it. This locks it on the visual
 display. Split-tap with another finger and the edit box is locked in with
 the keyboard. Because of rapid screen refreshes, it may be impossible to
 then flick to the next edit field. In this case, locate the done button
 above the o and p letters on the keyboard and double-tap it. This releases
 the edit field and one can now locate the next edit field. Follow the same
 procedure. When finished with the form, locate the continue, submit, or
 otherly worded button

RE: Tap Tap See

[Marie Reh]

I think most of us using Tap Tap See are not bothered about the cost of the
Subscription. I think the bother is it is just one more subscription to keep
track of.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Howard
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

this may get me kicked off the list, but at this point, I don't care.
I'm really tired, of the blind community wining when they have to start
paying for something. you people don't take into consideration that one, for
such a service it is, how many do you think it provides for. Plus, don't you
realize how much, they possibably have to pay on their end. I mean really,
these prices they charge, honestly aren't that bad, and if he leps most of
you like you apparently say it does, then what's the point of complaining, I
mean, really, they could have done a lot more, they could have charged us a
lot higher prices, so instead of complaining, saying you refuse to use it
anymore, be thankful you got what you got, and that it doesn't cost you and
arm and a leg to use it. Also, this community needs to learn to be more
considerate of prograamers and companies that try to do thigns like this for
us, to help make parts of our life easier. so really, only ones that are
hurting them selves is us, not them. COnsider this also, how long do you
think it would take for them to stop providing, if they find out that their
customers aren't greatful for what they do, and rather harp on them for
charging, just to think of themselves only, and not even give a thought to
them for making this for us, and for not considering what they have to pay
out on their end, to keep something like this running, I for one, would
gladly pay these prices.
so stop, complaining.

On 11/8/13, May and Noah  wrote:
> Some people don't mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike 
> those that don't use it that often. I'm one of those that doesn't use 
> it that often so 30 or whatever I wouldn't pay just like I'm choosing 
> not to go the month route because it's just not worth me paying 
> monthly for. Now if I used it more often sure.
>
> I think them having different rate plans is better than one price you 
> have no choice but to choose.
>
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
>
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:
>
>> Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge 
>> one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could 
>> pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for 
>> the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to 
>> have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure 
>> that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more 
>> about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a 
>> sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures 
>> right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, 
>> Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want 
>> you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. 
>> There are many blind people out there who think that they should have
everything for free, but I am not one of them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>>
>>> At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see 
>>> reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some 
>>> insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the 
>>> second lots of people, well,  move on to some other free apps like 
>>> VizWiz, or source it with other app.
>>> I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay
>>> $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a 
>>> heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used 
>>> TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to 
>>> read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things
are.
>>> As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is 
>>> nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how 
>>> skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to 
>>> close not too far, and correct brightness etc.
>>>
>>> For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may 
>>> seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you 
>>> use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee?
>>> Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more 
>>> serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know 
>>> some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R 
>>> Rated photo just "to test it out".
>>> One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C 
>>> per day to support the app? again, because, "blind user are entitle 
>>> to freebies" kind of attitude

Hulu accessibility

[Mary Otten]

Hi all,
Is anyone having luck with the Hulu app? I just got a Kindle fire, and can 
report that the Hulu app is not very accessible there. But I haven't tried it 
on my iPhone recently. And considering an iPad mini once the new ones come out, 
especially if I could use Netflix, Hulu, etc.
Mary


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Re: State of iOS 7

[Mary Otten]

I have not yet upgraded. But I have a friend who did. And now, he regrets the 
upgrade.
His problems are that Siri is rather flaky. When it works, it is really good. 
But when it doesn't, it really falls over. And also, there is a problem with VO 
not identifying mobile or home or whatever call. So when you are trying to make 
a call or look in your favorites, it doesn't work right. And this was a big 
deal for my friend

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Joe,
>  
> There will be those who say you should not upgrade because iOS 7 is full of 
> bugs and those who like me really like iOS 7 and wonder why you wouldn’t want 
> to upgrade. I can maybe get it if you had an iPhone 4, iOS 7 seems to be a 
> little more sluggish, but while I have a 5S now, I used it on my 4S since 
> Beta 5 which was since mid August and there are very few things which are 
> slower. I doubt you would notice a performance decrease for day-to-day stuff 
> and while it has a few bugs I find they are nothing I can’t live with for a 
> bit longer. I would be surprised if we didn’t see another iOS update which 
> will most likely be a more major release to 7.1 within the next few weeks and 
> I am sure Apple will address some of the issues.
>  
> Ultimately it’s your choice, but for me there are no dealbreakers given how I 
> use my phone.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joe
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: State of iOS 7
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Where are we on iOS 7 in terms of recommendations to upgrade, not upgrade, 
> etc.? My iPhone 4S is still on iOS 6, and I have no real reason to upgrade. 
> Still, I’d like to know my options in case one evening I get the motivation 
> to check out some of the features, including the handwriting capability. 
> Thanks for any current reports.
>  
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Re: State of iOS 7

[Anthony Vece]

David;
Would you be so kind and, tell us what earpieces you are using?
Thanks in advance.

Anthony


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> On Nov 11, 2013, at 9:28 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> When I was running iOS 6, occasionally my Bluetooth earpiece would go into a 
> funny high-pitched whiny whistle when making or receiving a phone call. There 
> was something wrong with the Bluetooth drivers which created this 
> intermittent problem. In fact, I acquired two different earpieces trying to 
> mitigate the issue.
> 
> Ever since I upgraded to iOS 7, I have not had any problems with my Bluetooth 
> earpieces. In fact, I finally recharged my original earpiece, the one that 
> had the worst problem, and started using it four days ago. I find it so much 
> more comfortable than either of the other units, though the sound is not so 
> good for the person on the other end of the phone call when I use it. I have 
> not had any difficulties yet, and am now feeling confident that Apple has 
> corrected this Bluetooth driver issue in iOS 7.
> 
> And, VO responsiveness in all three of my bluetooth earpieces has 
> dramatically improved.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 13:57, "Joe"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> Where are we on iOS 7 in terms of recommendations to upgrade, not upgrade, 
>> etc.? My iPhone 4S is still on iOS 6, and I have no real reason to upgrade. 
>> Still, I’d like to know my options in case one evening I get the motivation 
>> to check out some of the features, including the handwriting capability. 
>> Thanks for any current reports.
>>  
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Re: The Square root of IOS7

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi

Are you sure that the phone you have now are an another new phone?

Take care

10. nov. 2013 kl. 18:39 skrev BrianMiller :

> Hi Robert,
> 
> Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the things
> you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from the Apple Store
> -- end result, same problem.  The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them
> listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be lines
> of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done.  
> 
> So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I got a
> brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, being somewhat
> more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get the same issue.  
> 
> Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas.  How can this continue
> to be a problem?  And why my phones an apparently no one else's?  It's just
> weird.  
> 
> Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that.
> 
> Brian M
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of ROBERT CARTER
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more
> likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of your
> phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve erasing
> everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 with no apps
> installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming that it is not, I
> would then install apps one at a time. Not from a backup but by
> redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app store.
> 
> It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this
> problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your wife's
> phone if it fixes things on yours.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller  wrote:
> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded 
>> mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered 
>> with long strings of symbols, starting with "square root" repeated 
>> about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols.
>> 
>> This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of 
>> bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick 
>> back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only
> with some effort.
>> This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless.  
>> 
>> I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone 
>> and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue.
>> 
>> I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I 
>> wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this 
>> just the new landscape of IOS?  Do I have to put up with all this 
>> garbage in order to interact with my screen?  Or is there just 
>> something wrong with my specific phone...
>> 
>> Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this 
>> situation is extremely frustrating.  It reminds me of how fragile our 
>> spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it.
>> 
>> Thank you so much.
>> 
>> Brian Miller
>> Alexandria, VA
>> 
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Re: Can DigitEyes use a handheld bluetooth barcode scanner?

[Rebecca Ilniski]

One thing I could never figure out with   bar-code scanners is how do you know 
where the barcode is on a particular item?

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilni...@gmail.com
facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5
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On Nov 12, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Gmail  wrote:

Yes, I've been following the thread about barcode scanners. I plan to give 
Redlaser a try soon. Can it give you cooking directions, nutrition information, 
etc?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 12, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> To my knowledge, yes it can. However, to be honest, I'm quite taken with Red 
> Laser and would suggest you try it out first. It is not quite up there with a 
> dedicated scanner, at least I imagine it isn't having never tried such a 
> device myself, but it is quite good with just the iPhone's camera. Scanners 
> are a few hundred dollars, so this might be worth looking into before you 
> make such a purchase. Plus, Red Laser seems to give me more information that 
> Digit Eyes does when scanning the same products.
>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> I've been thinking of getting DigitEyes to replace my I.D. Mate Summit. I 
>> know that using DE can be a little difficult, but updating the I.D. Mate is 
>> a little expensive, and DE doesn't seem to be an app with recurring yearly 
>> costs, like the I.D. Mate.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
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has any one been having problems down loading the newesst audio boo app update that was released today?

[adrian leong]

has anny one beeen having problems down loading the newest audio boo update 
that realeased today? i cannnt get mine to down load.. it says to oppen it when 
i doo it doesn't show any thing.

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Re: The Square root of IOS7

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi

Try another shop. Maybe this shop has received many iPhones with this problem.

Take care

10. nov. 2013 kl. 20:41 skrev BrianMiller :

> Hi Richard,
> 
> It is hard to say, as they set up the phone for me in the store.  All I know
> is that it did it after my Apple ID was used to register the phone... So I
> thought about checking to see if this is the problem, but I can't imagine
> why the guys at the store wouldn't suggest this as well... And what could it
> be in the Apple ID that would cause this trouble?  That's the part I can't
> figure out.
> 
> Plus my wife's phone is doing this as well, and she has her own Apple ID and
> has the same problem.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian M
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7
> 
> Did the phone do this before you added any of your own settings? I mean just
> as a factory phone with just VoiceOver on, but no personal settings at all?
> exactly which model phone is it?
> If it does speak the code stufh without any of your settings, then I'd keep
> asking for another phone until you find one that doesn't do that.
> If it only starts after you sign in with your Apple ID, or setup your mail,
> etc. then it is clear that there is a problem with your account.
> sounds like a royal pain ...
> 
> 
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:39 AM, "BrianMiller" 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert,
>> 
>> Thanks for the encouragement... So, as it happens, I did all of the 
>> things you suggest below, including getting a whole new iPhone from 
>> the Apple Store
>> -- end result, same problem.  The geniuses had no ideas -- I made them 
>> listen to what voice over was saying when it read what appears to be 
>> lines of code and they had no suggestions beyond what we had already done.
>> 
>> So both our phones have been fully reset like new, and in my case I 
>> got a brand new phone, and then I pulled down apps one at a time, 
>> being somewhat more selective in what I chose to reload, and still I get
> the same issue.
>> 
>> Very bizarre, quite annoying, and I'm out of ideas.  How can this 
>> continue to be a problem?  And why my phones an apparently no one 
>> else's?  It's just weird.
>> 
>> Thanks for your thoughts, I appreciate that.
>> 
>> Brian M
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of ROBERT CARTER
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The Square root of IOS7
>> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> I agree with others that this issue has to be either a setting or more 
>> likely a corrupted app. I would make sure that you have a backup of 
>> your phone and restore it to the factory defaults. This would involve 
>> erasing everything that is currently on the phone. Try using iOS 7 
>> with no apps installed and see if the problem is still there. Assuming 
>> that it is not, I would then install apps one at a time. Not from a 
>> backup but by redownloading them either through iCloud or from the app
> store.
>> 
>> It is very likely that once you have all new copies of the apps, this 
>> problem will be gone. You will have to do this same process with your 
>> wife's phone if it fixes things on yours.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> 
>> Robert Carter
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:30 AM, BrianMiller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded 
>>> mine and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be 
>>> littered with long strings of symbols, starting with "square root" 
>>> repeated about a hundred times, then a long series of other nonsensical
> symbols.
>>> 
>>> This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of 
>>> bottom of the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick 
>>> back and forth a bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but 
>>> only
>> with some effort.
>>> This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless.  
>>> 
>>> I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone 
>>> and set it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue.
>>> 
>>> I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I 
>>> wanted to see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is 
>>> this just the new landscape of IOS?  Do I have to put up with all 
>>> this garbage in order to interact with my screen?  Or is there just 
>>> something wrong with my specific phone...
>>> 
>>> Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this 
>>> situation is extremely frustrating.  It reminds me of how fragile our 
>>> spiffy technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it.
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much.
>>> 
>>> Brian Miller
>>> Alexandria, VA
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Pablo;

I have to agree here with the people who are telling you to give up your Apple 
products.
If I were as unhappy as you are for the last few months, I certainly would.

I had similar situations with the Droid.
The system was just not for me.

I hope you figure it out soon.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Nov 11, 2013, at 11:39 PM, Ron Pelletier  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Pablo,
> 
> I have read your message very carefully and have not heard you mention a
> single thing that is good about Apple.  The first question that comes to my
> mind is: Why does the guy still have an Apple product if its that bad.  One
> thing you must admit about Apple is that it has a very good re-sale value.
> Have you considered taking advantage of that?  You say the price is very
> high on Apple, you could sell your Apple, buy an Android and probably have
> some money left over.  Now, what do you think about that!
> 
> Ron & Danvers 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Pablo Morales
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?
> 
> Nope. I don't agree it.
> Apple sales their toys at a very high price. As I said before, and iPhone
> today is more money that the money that the most part of the people on the
> world makes in one year. What does that mean for me?
> If they are charging a very high price for their toys, they should offer
> good toys, and do not be hide behind the excuse that every IOs or every
> operated system, has bugs, it is a really poor excuse. Why it is a very poor
> excuse?
> Every year apple start saying that they have a new IOs, it is the better
> IOs, it is the more advance operated system  in the galaxy, no body on the
> world, and around the world has a better operated system, and at the same
> time, they say that they will not provide more support to devices who
> doesn't have install IOs 7. So is mandatory has IOs 7 installed.
> Now, every year, apple create a new IOs, and every creation brings bugs,
> problems, and bunches of things that are real problems for sighted and blind
> people. We have more than one month talking about it in the list. Apple
> doesn't learn of the previous experiences?
> Apple is not paying attention to the mistakes that they did before?
> Apple is giving job to new developers every year and giving lay off to the
> older developers, because every year, customers, sighted and blind, we have
> to be suffering the bugs of new operated systems, and when we come to the
> end of the year, we do not have every bug fixed, no, it never is cover, but
> we have to update to a new operated system, and start again.
> In my opinion, the fault here is in our side. Apple is doing what the people
> wants. Apple is hearing people saying that, oh, no, every operated system
> has bugs, oh, no, it worse with the last IOs, instead heard people saying,
> hey apple, we do not accept it, and we are not going to update our devices
> until you do a better job. Every year, the bugs are worse and worse. Do you
> remember IOs 5?
> It has bugs, of course, but do you remember when came IOs6?
> It has more bugs than IOs 5, and now Ios 7  has more than Ios 6.
> So every year we are worse.
> But we have people saying that, oh, no, every Operated system has bugs.
> So apple is doing what the customers wants.
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RE: Tap Tap See

[Jerry MAder]

I agree with Peter.

This is price gouging in my opinion.

I feel like, if I'm gonna pay for something it better be worth my wile or I
won't pay for it.

Tap see isn't. It's constantly giving the wrong information causing me to
take multiple pictures, causing me to then use up all the pictures up just
trying to find the information I need.

I believe that this is truly price gouging, I think they should of went with
a six dollar price for the app and call it good, they're still getting the
money to fund whatever they're funding, and we're getting a great tool.
That's fair enough for me.

Just my thoughts.

Jerry Mader

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Logan
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Tap Tap See

 

It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider to
be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community
doesn't seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out
with their model many on this list were outraged.

 

Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy
user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying
$120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness
specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99
price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost
$19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather
seen a yearly subscription in that range.

 

Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an
awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.

 

Thanks for listening.

 

 

Peter 

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RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

[Jerry MAder]

What about ITunes Radio?
I love ITunes Radio it's awesome! It lets me find new music to add to my
radio station lol.
Yeah and it lets me make up a station that I can customize.
It's cool, there are some bugs but you can't expect Apple to constantly
clear up every bug, if they did that it would probably take forever and IOS
seven wouldn't of even been released yet probably.
Every firmware of every platform, windows, Mack, I Devices, they all
experience bugs.
We're not the only one with problems with IOS Seven. My friend for example,
she's sighted, and her camera has went nuts after getting IOS Seven put on
her phone and, so I'm going to try and fix her phone for her when she comes
down, I think it's something she turned off or on but the thing is so blurry
now.  Gives me a chance to see her again anyway  Anyway I must
say, I love IOS seven, and I got an IPhone now yay! I upgraded from an IPod
Touch 4th gen, to an IPhone. I love it, it's only got 8 gigs but heck, it's
good enough for me.
Lol Especially now with the new I Tunes Radio feature.
Jerry Mader

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

Pablo,

I just don't understand some of the complaints. I don't see a difference in
the location of the End button when I'm on a phone call, it's still right
there at the bottom of the screen.
Then there are little things like Voiceover saying Screene Locked a second
time, I mean, really, so what.

What about all the improvements? All some people do is complain but they
forget to recognize the good things.
What about the handwriting feature which is awesome for quickly finding
apps?
What about SIRI which works better now than ever?
What about the new 2-finger quadruple tap to copy the last spoken text which
I use quite often and find great?
What about Facetime Audio, I think it's awesome.
What about little fixes like Voiceovover not losing focus when I am in email
53 of my Inbox and back out where it now stays on email 53 instead of going
back to email 1? This, by the way, I remember you complained about bitterly
when iOS 6 was released and this was introduced.
What about the fantastic support for hearing aids, not something that is
mentioned that often on this list even though I know some Viphone members
have significant hearing loss and for them this is more revolutionary than
evolutionary.
These are just a few examples, some are general features and some are
accessibility related.

Pablo, I am not saying it's all peaches and cream, there are bugs, there
always were bugs and there always will be bugs.
In the meantime I love what I can do with my iPhone, the access to apps and
information it gives me.
I prefer to send the occasional email to the accessibility team if I am sure
I found something that truly doesn't work and which isn't working because I
am not paying attention because I know that Apple is committed to improving
accessibility even if apparently you feel it's worse than ever.
Maybe you should look for an iPhone 3GS running iOS 5 or iOS 6 on eBay so
you can have the experience you seem to be missing.


Happy tapping,
Sieghard

 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

Sieghard, what are you talking about?
So for you is not fir that I  complain when I feel that somebody is abusing
when they decrees the quality of a product?
For example, in IOs 5, the typing emails or typing text messages, wasn't a
problem, in IOs 6  either, but now in IOs 7  is very difficult. If not every
body is getting the same problem, it doesn't mean that is not enough people
getting the problem. I have seen this kind of complain in the list, several
times. It was happening in the previous versions of IOs?
No, it didn't.
Now VO says after the screen is locked, "Screen locked"and seconds or
minutes later, VO repeats the message.
It happened before?
No, it didn't.
When we receive a call, is easy to find the end button? is easy to finish
the phone call?
No, it is not, is not one people getting this problem, is a lot of people
saying the same thing. It happened before?
No, it didn't.
Field a text box in a web site, is difficult, or some times impossible. If
you don't do it, it doesn't means that it is not a bug. It means that you
don't field text fields on web sites, it is all. It happened before?
No, it didn't.
Now when we are reading the list of emails, or what ever list of content,
voice over jumps every where, and we have to cross the whole list of content
again to find where we were before VO jump out.
it happened before?
No, it didn't.
Now, if we are playing a song, or audio book, or what ever kind of media,
and we press the power button, V

VDD Podcast?

[BroxiBear]

Hi guys, Is there a podcast available for Voice Dream Reader please?, Billy

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RE: differences between read2go and voice dream reader

[BroxiBear]

Hi Esther, can you please provide the direct link for the podcast you
mentioned?, Billy

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: 10 November 2013 2:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: differences between read2go and voice dream reader

Hi Pablo,

First of all, it is not true that you have to transfer DAISY books to
Read2Go using iTunes file sharing.  Since the latest release (version
1.0.3.10) in May 2013, Read2Go has supported the "Open In" feature.  This is
a feature I had requested ever since Read2Go was first released. There is a
podcast demonstration by David Woodbridge demonstrating the transfer of
DAISY text books from Vision Australia through Dropbox and using the "Open
In" feature to direct the book to be opened in Read2Go, I have transferred
eBooks including DAISY text formatted books into both Read2Go and Voice
Dream Reader this way without ever having to use iTunes file sharing.  For
example, DRM-free eBooks I have purchased from O'Reilly Books are available
for download under my account at their web site in a variety of formats
(ePub, PDF, Mobi, DAISY, etc.). When I activate a download link on my iPhone
by double tapping, I'm offered the option to "Open In" a default app (for
DAISY, this is Read2Go on my iPhone, so one button is "Open in Read2Go"; for
ePub, the default is "Open in IBooks") or to "Open in." and then a range of
supporting apps on my device, if I double tap that button.

Secondly, while it is true that Read2Go offers better support for reading
and navigating through books with Braille devices than Voice Dream Reader,
it only supports English text-to-speech voices. Voice Dream Reader, in
addition to supporting many more document formats, lets you read your text
with TTS voices in many other languages, including NeoSpeech voices, which
are very nice.  When I use the purchased voices, PDFs that include accented
characters are pronounced correctly.  This is not true if you read these
PDFs in iBooks with the default voices.  It's not so noticeable if you only
read in languages that either don't used Roman letters, or if you only read
in English, where accented characters are infrequently used.  Also, this
doesn't happen if you read ePub versions of the same text.  You can still
recognize most of the words, even if they are mispronounced, so if you don't
care about having to check the accented words character by character to
check the spelling, or you have access to these documents in another format,
this feature may not be important to you.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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RE: differences between read2go and voice dream reader

[BroxiBear]

Hi Richard. I'm thinking of purchasing this app, but can you use dropbox with 
it?. What i mean. Can you export books from dropbox into voice dream reader?. 
What different formats does the appp read. I read lots of ebooks in different 
formats Epub etc. 
Hope you can advise, thanks, Billy  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 09 November 2013 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: differences between read2go and voice dream reader

You can contact the developer through the help, but here is the support address:
supp...@voicedream.com
HTH,


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:



I never have been able to transfer a book to Voice Dream via iTunes, 
although I have no problem transferring books to the Read To Go, Bardmobile, or 
Learning Ally apps.I was unable to find a name or address to whom to write on 
the Voice Dream web site. If you could provide those, I thank you very much.

 
Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: differences between read2go and voice dream reader



I�ve not added daisy text books via iTunes to Voice Dream 
Reader.

I have only used BookShare for that.

I�d suggest writing to the developer if someone else doesn�t 
have a good answer on the list.

supp...@voicedream.com

 

Richard

 





From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: differences between read2go and voice dream reader

 

ok, I have another question. I understood that voice dream 
reader plays daisy books. Even daisy text only. I add 10 books in daisy, daisy 
only text to voice dream reader in iTunes, but only appears a book in daisy, a 
audio daisy book, where are the 9 books that are in daisy text only?

I added these files been in zip, as I did with read2go, it is 
the right way to add daisy books to the voice dream reader?

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner 
  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 1:27 AM

Subject: Re: differences between read2go and voice 
dream reader

 

Two more things:

Much better support to since it is created by a 
developer who responds quickly to user feedback.

And, with the latest version, you can use any of the 
VoiceOver built-in voices.

The only thing that read 2 go does better than Voice 
Dream is if you are using a braille display. Apparently read 2 go is easier to 
use that way. But, otherwise, Voice Dream is far better in every other way.

 


Richard 

(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)


On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Alex Hall 
 wrote:

Read2Go is twice the money and has no free 
trial, plus it only works with Bookshare or Daisy files you share via iTunes. 
The advantage to it is that it support Daisy audio, but I think the Voice Dream 
developer is working on similar support. 

 

Voice Dream offers many voices, most for a few 
dollars each, and can read books from Bookshare, Google Drive, Dropbox, and 
more. It is much easier to control playback, it supports folders, it opens a 
wider range of file formats, and it has basic support for mp3 audio books (not 
the same as daisy audio). As mentioned, Voice Dream offers a free trial, which 
is fully-featured except it will only read a few seconds of a book at a time.

On Nov 8, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Pablo Morales 
 wrote:





Hi every body.

I would like to know, what are the differences 
between read2go, and voice dream reader. Also, I would like to know, if using 
read2go or voice Dream reader is possible t

RE: Voice Dream Voices

[BroxiBear]

Richard, I am trying out the voice dream reader lite version of the app,
before i decide to buy or not. 
Can ebooks be read with this app?, Billy 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: 08 November 2013 10:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream Voices

In the settings for Voice Dream Reader, you can set access to Dropbox and
other file sharing apps. Also you can activate your BookShare account with
your login and password, then easily add books from BookShare, or get files
from Dropbox etc.
HTH,


Richard
(Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)

> On Nov 7, 2013, at 5:43 AM, "Andrew J. LaPointe" 
wrote:
> 
> how do you use this to read books?  Am I correct to understand that 
> voice dream reader will work with bookshare books?  How do you get 
> docs and other info to be picked up dream reader.  Thanks for posting 
> this, this is something I always wanted to look in to.  Andy
> 
> -Original Message- From: Caitlyn furness
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 8:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Voices
> 
> Personally, I like Will and Bridget.
> I am probably one of the few who does not like heather at all!
> Voice dream is becoming my go to reader these days.
> Cait
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Richard Turner 
wrote:
>> 
>> Personally, I like the Laura voice for US English. Julie is also very
good, but a little too high pitched for my ears at times.
>> I have not bought Kate or Paul, which should be also very good.
>> Now, in this version, you also have the choice to use the built-in iOS 7
voices.
>> If you want a british accent, I personally prefer Bridget.
>> I've listened to quite a few books with Voice Dream, and I seem to fall
back to the Laura voice much of the time because of the pronunciation.
Though, the iOS 7 voices do a very good job of that as well.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Richard
>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I just purchased Voice Dream reader. What are everyone's favorite or 
>>> preferred voices? I'm looking for a voice that sounds clear, but can 
>>> also pronounce words moderately well. I am an English US user.
>>> Obviously preference will differ from person to person, but some 
>>> input would be very much welcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Muted Phone

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Ward;

Do a two finger flick up so the screen is being read.
While that's happening, us the volume control on the side ofthe phone.

Hope this helps.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Nov 10, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Ward Dudley  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> My 4s has gotten muted.  It vibrates when it's called and that's the only way 
> that I even know that it's working.  I'vee tried rebooting it but no luck.  
> What to do?
> 
> Ward
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Re: previous downloaded audio books.

[Mary Otten]

Hi Christopher,
Did you purchase these books through audible.com? If so, they should be 
available in your library. If not, I'm not sure. It would depend on how you 
purchased them, for instance through iTunes. I would suppose they should be in 
iTunes purchases if you had done that.
If you did buy them through audible, just load up the audible app, select 
cloud, refresh, and you should see all of your available books in your library.

Mary


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On Nov 8, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Christopher huby  wrote:

> hi all,
> 
> this may have been covered previously but cant find the answer any where.
> 
> is there a way we can re download audio books that i purchased using my old 
> iphone 4 using my iphone 5s with out using a computer.
> 
> if so please could some one tell me how i can do this.
> 
> if some one could help i would be most grateful.
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Christopher Huby
> tel no: 07562729946
> Email 1: christopher.h...@blueyonder.co.uk 
> email 2: christopher.h...@hotmail.co.uk
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Windows on Mac

[Joe]

Hello,

 

I know it's possible to run Windows on a Mac, but does it run as
efficiently? I was thinking of running Windows on a MacBook Air 11 inch but
don't know if that would be too much of a drain on the system. Thanks in
advance for any information and/or information referrals you can offer.

 

Joe

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RE: Searching in TuneIn Radio

[Luis Eduardo Peña]

Hello,

 

There is a very good radio application that you can download from the apple
store for 99 cents. It is called IRadio. You should be careful though
because there are several apps with this name. I would advise to ask for
sighted assistance and tell the person to look for the app that has a green
icon with a little bit of black on it. It works great with VO, including the
search feature  and even it allows you to record. It is very similar to
Tunein.

 

I also contacted today one of the developers of Tunein who had written to me
before. As soon as I have an answer from him regarding the lack of
accessibility of the search function I will communicate it to the list.

 

 

 

 

Luis Eduardo Peña 

Psicólogo clínico 

Clínica Farallones 

Calle 9C # 50-25 

Consultorio 1108 

Cali, Colombia 

 

Teléfono: (572) 487-8084 

Teléfono celular: 311-308-8073 

 

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luisp...@misicologo.com 

Skype: luiseduardopena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Searching in TuneIn Radio

 

All I can say is good luck. I’ve done that and they’ve pretty much ignored
it.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White Mac Book

 

On Nov 3, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 wrote:





I just sent them a note, too. My sighted wife tells me there are search
results but they appear to be graphical image in nature that VO skips over
entirely.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Searching in TuneIn Radio

 

Hi Jojo. Yes, all of us are experiencing this problem. Time and again we’ve
reported this to their customer service department but it sounds to me that
they won’t do anything about it. It’s really getting stupid.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White Mac Book

 

On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:05 AM, JoJo and Clinton <
 pabl...@buckeye-express.com> wrote:






I have an IPhone 5 and am running the latest version of I O S; and,
recently, I've not been able to search for anything in TuneIn Radio Pro.  I
type what I am trying to search for in the search field and press the search
button.  However, after I double tap the search button, it doesn't bring up
anything.  For example I have tried searching for Christmas, technology etc.
Has anyone else had this problem?  Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

JoJo

 

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RE: TapTapSee

[Jerry MAder]

I agree with Cara.

I would love to pay for the service but to me it's gotta be worth my time to
pay for it.

And there should be a way to ask a question with the picture. Plus, you
should allow for a free version that allows for you to post your pic to
facebook, email, and twitter and not your services until someone pay for
that option. That's my thoughts.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Hi there, what Alan is saying is that though a result is sent, it may be
less than useful. I'll use my own recent experience as an example.

 

I was taking a shot of a tin of Republic of Tea Good Hope Vanilla. I in the
end, simply abandoned trying to get a confirmation that this was the tea I
had as the answers I continued to get were:

 

tin of tea

 

Can of food

 

Orange can

 

Republic of Tea

 

etc

 

I had the can in focus, the label in frame and wanted to verify that I did
have the Good Hope Vanilla tea. I have a vast amount of teas as I love love
love teas and coffees. So knowing which flavor I have of anything is really
important. I know that the tin is Republic of Tea, as I have several tins of
that brand of tea.

 

So Alan's concerns here are that we get relevant information and not just
information. Does this make sense?

 

I, like many here, have no problem with paying for a service as long as that
service is what we need.

 

So far, TapTapSee has been amazing and for me, that tea experience is
actually the first one I've seen where the app has failed. So I'm pretty
impressed. :)

 

So this is just a matter of working out the details so everyone can have the
proper results that will most benefit their particular needs.

 

Thanks for reading and have a nice day / weekend!

 

Smiles,

 

cara :)

On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:41 AM, TapTapSee  wrote:

 

Alan,

 

A successful identification occurs when a result gets sent back to you, as
opposed to a "Failure to send" message. We'll continue to monitor and
improve our identifications as time goes on. Accuracy and speed are always
the main focus for us.

 

Best Wishes,

On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:50:20 AM UTC-8, alanand...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Ok here's my question.  I may have to take several pictures moving the
iPhone forward, backward, left or right only to hear can of chili.  That's
helpful but not very informative.  If I under stand you then that would be a
successful image and thus I'd be charged for that picture when in reality,
I'm looking for can is Hormel Chili no beans.  I don't have a problem
paying.  I'm not looking for something for nothing.  I'm just concerned that
I get the information I need with out being over charged.  With the hundred
picture plan at 8 cents a picture and it takes me ten shots to get it right,
then it would cost me 80 cents just to find out what's inside that can.  The
same thing with boxes etc.  Box of cereal is not what I need to know.  Box
of Kellogg Frosted Flakes is.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: TapTapSee   

To: vip...@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:53 AM

Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Paula, 

We'll be releasing an update in the next 5-7 days that will fix it to only
count the successful pictures. Meaning, the pictures that return an
identification to your phone.


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:40:37 PM UTC-8, Paula Jordan wrote: 

What about those pictures that come back as "failed"?  I was trying to get a
picture yesterday and got the message that the picture had timed out. There
were 5 or 6 of those timed out ones before I actually got the picture of the
shirt logo which was what I was looking for.  Would I be charged for the
failed pix if I use the 100 picture plan?

God bless!

Paula and Babe

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
TapTapSee
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:46 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Donna,

It goes from the date of purchase. As you said, i.e. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th.
Then when you attempt to take another picture after those dates a message
for subscription will appear.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:12:52 PM UTC-8, mermaid7100 wrote:

Hello

 

Does the monthly $9.99 unlimited pictures subscription go from the date of
purchase to the same day the next month, ex. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th? Or from
the first day in the month to the last day in a 

Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

[David L Minton, Jr]

OkPablo, The only reason you pay full price for the phone is cause you do 
not want to have a contract with a carrier.  If that cause you are the one 
to be a fault for complaining that the cost is to high.  There is nothing in 
this world that is perfect.  Thinks have to start somewhere and things have 
to be fixed to keep them running up to par.   I have the same phone and sixe 
you have.  Like I said , you are the one to choose to pay full price instead 
of the upgrade price through your carrier.


- Original Message - 
From: "Pablo Morales" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?


If apple charge the same money than other business, I can agree what you
say. But apple is not the cheaper or the standard  price for their products.
Of course, I feel that I have right of say that I am in disagreement when I
pay a thousand dollars for a phone, and I have to be fighting with the
accessibility, when it was working better in previous versions of IOs.
Yes, I feel that I have right to be saying that I don't like it.

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Hall" 

To: 
Cc: "viphone" 
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?


In addition, do you really think iOS is perfect if you are not using VO?
There are bugs in it and the new Mac OS  release for sighted people as well,
some very long-standing. Just because there are bugs in accessibility does
not mean that Apple doesn't care about accessibility or does not take it
seriously, because if you extend that logic, then bugs anywhere must mean
they don't care about any of their software. Voiceover is no different from
any other aspect of Apple's products: it is mostly great, it has bugs, they
fix the bugs, they update, more bugs come along, and the cycle continues.
That's true of all software anywhere.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 10, 2013, at 10:01, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

Hi,

With respect, let me go through some of the things below.  In regards to 
hanging up a call.  Yes, I have notice that doing a 2 finger double tap 
doesn’t always hang up a call on the first try.  Generally, the second try 
will do the trick.  About phone numbers in a text, turn the rotor to 
links, flick down to the number, and double tap and hold.  A dialog 
appears asking you if you want to call, text, or save the number to 
contacts.  This is not a bug.  If you don’t like the way its now done that’s 
one thing.  But it isn’t broken.


Web forms?  Yes.  This is definitely buggy in IOS 7. There is no excuse 
for that.  But I will continue to say, I think some people on the list 
have very short memories.  Remember all the bugs that were found in IOS 6 
when it first launched?  I’m sorry, bugs in software is just a fact of 
life at launch.  There have been a couple minor updates.  But we are still 
on a .0 release.  Can we at least hold off until 7.1 comes out so we can 
see what’s what?  And about the persons Nokia phone, last time I checked, 
it was running a dead OS, a non existent app store in which I bet the 
accessible apps were slim pickings indeed.  I say this just to point out, 
if you want to take 3 or 4 bugs, and compare it to an operating system 
that no longer being supported, that’s fine.  But, anyone can do that.


JMO

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Nov 10, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Pablo Morales  
wrote:


Yes, it is that I have been saying since IOs 6  came. Looks like every 
time apple write a new code, with new developers, and the accessibility 
problems every time are worse. They are not learning of the previous IOs 
experiences, they are not paying attention to it, or they want to become 
the accessibility in something that another company will care. With IOs 
7, I am getting the same problems than you, and bunches of others. But 
the response that I found is that every IOs brings bugs. It is a very 
poor excuse, because with IOs 7, is when I have been taking more problems 
to access information with my apple devices.
Apple wants that every year, every body update the IOs, saying that not 
more support for older versions of the IOs, but at the same time, we have 
to be suffering during the year, the bugs that every IOs brings, we come 
to the end of the year, and start again with another IOs. It is not fir.


- Original Message - From: 
To: "ViPhone" 
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:40 AM
Subject: When will Apple take this seriously?


This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the many 
shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have appeared in 
ver 7 that were not in IOS6.
It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions are 
compromised.
1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended the call 
but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing situations and also a 
drain on my wallet due to large long distance call charg

questions about the gmail application RE: Siri Issue

[Luis Eduardo Peña]

Hello,

 

Yesterday I downloaded the gmail app for iPhone5s. When I tried to configure
my account the apps kept indicating that my user name and or my password was
incorrect. This happened several times in spite of the fact that I requested
sighted assistance. Has any of you experienced this difficulty? By the way,
how accessible is this app?

 

I also would like to know what is the fastest procedure to delete email
messages from the native iPhone mail app.

 

Thank you.

 

 

Luis Eduardo Peña 

Psicólogo clínico 

Clínica Farallones 

Calle 9C # 50-25 

Consultorio 1108 

Cali, Colombia 

 

Teléfono: (572) 487-8084 

Teléfono celular: 311-308-8073 

 

www.misicologo.com   

luisp...@misicologo.com 

Skype: luiseduardopena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 8:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Siri Issue

 

Hi listers,

For the past two days, siri has not worked for me. I have tried shutting
down the phone and starting it back up, Restarting it with home & Lock, and
a quick restart with the lock button 6 times quickly. My cell signal is max,
and my wifi is max. I have even tried shutting off wifi  to see if siri
works on the cell service. I disabled siri, then enabled it again.

Nothing worked.

Note. I have a 4S, running IOS 7.0.3.

My wife has an iPhone 5 running IOS 6 and her siri is working just fine.

 

Suggestions are appreciated,

 

Thom

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RE: Tap TapSee

[Jerry MAder]

I won't be buying it only because, 1. I feel like the funds are going for an
app I'll never use.

It's not fair for us, as an IPhone community to pay for an Android based
app. That's something you should be finding other ways to fund it, not by
using your current Apple based app to do so, I think that's wrong. . 2. I
think that paying for a product like yours should be accurate, and every
time I've tried to take a picture of, for example, the thermostat to see
exactly what the temp is set to, all it gives me is the temp inside the
house, not the one that the thermostat is set to. Or when I take a picture
of say, a bottle of creamer to see if it's the kind of creamer I have
instead of the kind my sister drinks I couldn't get Tap Tap See to tell me
that either and I did move the bottle around and around to find the label.
No luck!

Those are my thoughts on the matter.

Jerry Mader

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

 

Arnold,

 

The subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two
options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2)
1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your
Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited
pack, then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time
period runs out. Same goes for the 100 picture pack.

 

Best Wishes,

TapTapSee



On Friday, November 8, 2013 4:21:39 PM UTC-8, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

I have not been reading this thread, being that I had not accessed Tap Tap 
See in quite a while, although I very much like it and have kept it on my 
phone.  After reading some in this thread, I accessed it earlier today, 
after reading about its becoming a subscription service, to find out how 
much it costs.  There was nothing in it about needing to pay a fee to use it

now.  Please let me know the details about the subscription service and when

it begins.  Thanks in advance for any information. 

Arnold Schmidt 
- Original Message - 
From: "Andrea Love"  > 
To:  > 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:16 PM 
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee 


> I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help 
> me read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable 
> service then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people 
> who are crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and

> pay for it!! 
> Andrea Love 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ron Pelletier"  > 
> To:  > 
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM 
> Subject: RE: Tap TapSee 
> 
> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> You, yourself stated: 
>> "We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year 
>> for 
>> identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps". 
>> 
>> I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the 
>> developers 
>> money.  You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and 
>> now, 
>> the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. 
>> The 
>> developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that 
>> we 
>> have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that 
>> we 
>> take on the responsibility of paying for the service. 
>> 
>> Just a personal opinion 
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com  ] On 
>> Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel 
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM 
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com   
>> Subject: RE: Tap TapSee 
>> 
>> Hi Alia, 
>> 
>> Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see 
>> that 
>> by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a 
>> business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail 
>> business 
>> and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for 
>> what I 
>> paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a 
>> puppydog can wag its tail. 
>> 
>> Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week

>> which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a 
>> picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most 
>> likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks 
>> to 
>> ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture 
>> taking 
>> skills. 
>> 
>> I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing 
>> this 
>> all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and 
>> combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at 
>> least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may 
>> spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if 
>> easy and rel

logging out of twitterific

[rami]

Hello,
can anyone tell me how to log out myself from twitterific? i want to 
give my old iPhone4 to a friend and do not want to format it completely 
because i do not want it to upgrade itself to i-OS7. so i just manually 
remove my personal data, but i can't find a way to sign out of twitter 
using twitterific. any guidance will be appreciated.

Regards.

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RE: safari and bookshare

[BroxiBear]

Hello, sorry for jumping in here, but what formats does voice dream handle?,
Billy

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Sent: 08 November 2013 2:42 PM
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Subject: safari and bookshare

Hi, I plan to get the voice dream app and re-subscribe to bookshare.  I
think that I as well as most others will get a great experience using these
tools.  My question is, can I download a book from bookshare while surfing
surfari to download to my IPhone without having to use Itunes?  How do I do
this, and how do I incorporate voice dream together.  I am sure I will get
the hang with this as I work with it but, you all are much smarter than I
am.  Andy Andrew J. LaPointe Co-Chairman Salem Commission on Disabilities
President, The Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home, 978-745-4289 cell, 978-578-0185

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Re: Tap TapSee

[raveneyes]

   I just bought 2 months of the $9.99 tap tap see.

I want to take pictures over the holidays.  This is so much fun for me. 
Although, I lost my sight as a child I can still very much conceptualize. 
Therefore, for me it going to be fun.  I just have to learn how to angle the 
iphone for pictures. I also, put on Talking Goggles and Camfind.  I feel 
like a little kid in a candy store.  I purchase my iphone 2 and a half weeks 
ago.  I'm sure I shell drive my granddaughters crazy this weekend.  Their 
going to think it's their Nanny whose the teenager.  lol


Val

-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

I'm actually not too interested in what others think about the price of
different apps. When the Seeing Eye GPS app came out, I really wasn't
too interested in all of the posts to the list saying they thought it
was too expensive and they wouldn't be buying it. IMHO, that's a
personal decision people have to make for themselves, and as with the
Seeing Eye app or TapTap See, I'll be making the decision as to whether
I think it's a service worth the price or not. Everyone is different,
has different needs and expectations and is in different economic
situations, so I'm not sure why people feel compelled to let everyone
else know if something is too expensive for them or not, and I'm not
sure why people care waht others are willing to spend on an app or service.

That being said, I don't think someone who thinks a product is worth
more than they're willing to spend is a free loader or is someone
looking for a hand out. If I buy Window Eyes instead of JAWS because I
think it's a better product for the money, does that make me a free
loader? When I buy a Nisson instead of a Honda, and I looking for a handout?

I don't recall any posts to this list saying TapTap See should be free
and that the developers of TapTap See shouldn't charge for their app or
their service. That would be asking for a freebie or a handout. Most
people have been asking for a flat price or a cheaper option, and since
I have no clue what it costs to have people identify the contents of a
picture, I have no idea if this cost will be covered by this model or
not. The developers of TapTap See have the right to set any price they
want. Maybe they'll just cover their costs or maybe they'll have a huge
markup. All I know is what I'm willing to pay for the service. The
developers will make enough money to continue developing TatTap See and
providing the service or they won't.

There are blind people, just like their are sighted people, who have a
sense of entitlement and want a handout. We should feel sorry for those
people and help them. We shouldn't confuse someone who's just deciding
if they can afford a particular service or app though with those people.






On 11/08/2013 06:04 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:

TapTapSee,

I have a proposal for you. Deal to all the complains about how much
you charge for either 8C per picture or less than 35C per day, what
about this as a proposal?
Charge by picture.
$5 for one picture, or $50 for 100 pictures.
These people, like the chinese said, "know how to eat, but does not
know the price of food, more so, the price of making the food".
Let those whiners have real reason to whine about, or shud them up.
Maybe better off, just shut off the service, cut the losts, and like
those whiners said, let them find the alternative that they so looking
for it.

On 09/11/2013, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for
free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check
out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something,
but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want
freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent
majority.

Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were
reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern
over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted
people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly
subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind
people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise
that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual
messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of
context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind
people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of
that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to
another blind person.




On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote:

Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check
out twitter if you don't believe me.
Andrea Love
- Original Message - From: "David Chittenden"

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

RE: TapTapSee

[Jerry MAder]

I was gonna say the same thing.

It isn't like we have eyes to see where the picture is at or how to get a
good shot.

We shouldn't be charged for that. It's not like we can just magically have a
sighted person by us 24:7 to make sure we got all of the picture in the
camera.

Jerry Mader

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

It's not the blind person's fault either. Geesh! Doesn't anyone have any
common sense?

 

Andy

 

From: DJ   

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 3:31 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: TapTapSee

Ok everyone is entitled to their opinion, but come on.  It's not their fault
that blind people can't take the best pictures which are alway clear and
easily recognizable.  This discussion is getting to be absolutely
rediculous.  And that's my opinion.

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dawn Petty
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

what about pictures that are deemed blurry or unrecognizable?  will they
count toward the 100 pictures?  I think only the ones that can be identified
should count.  

 

From: TapTapSee   

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:46 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Donna, 

It goes from the date of purchase. As you said, i.e. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th.
Then when you attempt to take another picture after those dates a message
for subscription will appear.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:12:52 PM UTC-8, mermaid7100 wrote: 

Hello

 

Does the monthly $9.99 unlimited pictures subscription go from the date of
purchase to the same day the next month, ex. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th? Or from
the first day in the month to the last day in a month, ex. Nov. 1st to Nov.
30rd?

 

Thanks

 

Donna 

 

Hello Debbie, 

 

This is something someone else suggested today as well. It is definitely
something that we'll look into for a future update. Thank you for the
suggestion!

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:40:30 PM UTC-8, deb wrote: 

Hello,

 

I was just wondering if there is some sort of counter that is accessible to
let you know how many pictures you have left if you purchase the 100 picture
package?

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie

 


  _  


From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
TapTapSee
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:20 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

No, it does not have an expiration date. That package is good until you run
out of the 100 pictures.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:03:43 AM UTC-8, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
wrote: 

Will the 100 picture option have a time limit or expiration date? 

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
TapTapSee
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:48 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change
TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We will continue to improve our
service in order to provide you with the high quality tags that you've come
to love and expect. The TapTapSee team is committed to improving the app
based on the customer feedback and suggestions. In the next few days a
message will pop up on the app that will present you with two option. Option
1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for
$9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:57:53 AM UTC-8, rubyalphonse wrote:

Hi all, I am getting the message to purchase creditI was happy to have this
App, I will miss it very badlyI know, but, I feel if I have to subscribe, I
think of not using TapTapSee. But I'm very upset about this. Why sudden
change I wonder. Ruby

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iPhone 4 Screw Up With The New IOs

[Helena Fehr]

Hi! Just to let you know, i did try that 30 seconds holding down the power and 
home buttons together thing, and it didn't work.
Then I got the idea that iCloud must be a website somewhere on the internet. I 
had to get sighted help, but I got a friend to look at it, and we found a way 
to erase my phone and restore it using iCloud, and now it works fine, even with 
the new update, and the whole pass-code thing, and even the iCloud keychain. I 
do think they should make the iCloud website more accessible though, but 
nevertheless, we got my phone to work.
Thanks for your advice though, whoever you are.

God Bless!!!
Helena

May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
(Numbers 6;24)

In Jesus' Name.
Amen

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RE: A question regarding ring tones...

[Marie Reh]

I think I got some from The ITunes store. Try searching for Star Trek ring
tone. Maybe you get to them through settings? I would try ITunes first.

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I would like to get a Star Trek ringtone for the iPhone.  Does anyone know
if there is such?  If so, how and where do I get it?
Thanks.

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Re: VDD Podcast?

[Alex Hall]

I don't know for sure, but I think there is one on www.applevis.com. If not, I 
can make one soon and submit it.
On Nov 10, 2013, at 5:32 PM, BroxiBear  wrote:

> Hi guys, Is there a podcast available for Voice Dream Reader please?, Billy
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Re: Tap TapSee

[Anthony Vece]

I don't think the issue is payment.
The issue is changing the rules in mid stream.

∫ people haven't beeen entirely truthful.

Consider this, if they changed the rules namece -pletely out of' left field 
field, they most certainly do it again.

I wouldn't gile ∫ people the sweet off my eyebrows.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Andrea Love"  wrote:
> 
> I'll happily pay for this service. So many times I need some eyes to help me 
> read something and no one is around. If I can get good dependable service 
> then why not. These people should get payed and the blind people who are 
> crying about it are making the rest of us look bad. Suck it up and pay for 
> it!!
> Andrea Love
> - Original Message - From: "Ron Pelletier" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:41 PM
> Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You, yourself stated:
>> "We took a lot of pics mostly for fun, but I'm not spending 120 a year for
>> identifying a few cans for cooking. I'll go to other apps".
>> 
>> I have to assume that you were not aware of your fun costing the developers
>> money.  You certainly weren't the only one taking pictures for fun and now,
>> the fun is over and we have to pay for a service that is well worth it. The
>> developers paid for a whole year while we tested their app and, now that we
>> have done our testing and know what the app is worth, its only fair that we
>> take on the responsibility of paying for the service.
>> 
>> Just a personal opinion
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Tap TapSee
>> 
>> Hi Alia,
>> 
>> Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that
>> by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a
>> business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business
>> and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I
>> paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a
>> puppydog can wag its tail.
>> 
>> Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week
>> which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a
>> picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most
>> likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to
>> ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking
>> skills.
>> 
>> I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this
>> all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and
>> combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at
>> least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may
>> spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if
>> easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is
>> an outrageous price.
>> 
>> Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited
>> annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap
>> See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you
>> were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards
>> for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for
>> unlimited use.
>> 
>> I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will
>> take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant
>> spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures
>> for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company
>> and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do
>> really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a
>> result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am
>> trying to identify.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of alia robinson
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:31 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
>> 
>> IMO this is insulting. I have never as long as I have been buying blindness
>> products, braille printer in the old days before windows, scanner from edge,
>> my first computer with jaws, dectalk soundcard, laptop for school, you get
>> the idea. Never as a blind user have I felt I was "entitled to freebies! I
>> am talking about a once free app going to subscription service, and stating
>> I think it is overpriced. If you didn't get timed-out pictures, unrecognized
>> images, and just plain wrong info, i.e. my black dog was called a black cat.
>> sometimes when I scan cans I have to take more than one picture, so the 100
>> pics are impractical, and

Change the time on the iPhone

[simon wong]

Hi there everyone hope you're all doing well on this Sunday, November 3 how do 
you get the phone to change the time it's not changing because of the time 
change here get back when you can thanks and have a good day

Sent from my iPhone

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Radium for iPhone is now accessible

[Mary Otten]

If you have radium for the Mac, you can get the iPhone app for 2 bucks and 
synch up all your favorite stations by turning on iCloud synch on both 
applications. Very nice indeed.

Mary

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Indoor Navigation Apps

[Lilit Grigoryan]

Dear E-mail list Members:

I am writing you regarding the indoor navigation application:
While googling for an indoor navigation app for I phone, I came across 
some indoor navigation apps like Meridian, Wifarer, and Navizon. As far 
as I understood, only Wifarer offers an app for universities. However 
there is no info regarding their accessibility for blind users.
Since every day I have to face the problem of finding shops in the 
shopping moles and my course locations in the buildings of the 
University, As a blind student, I would like to know, are there 
applications that help navigate in the university buildings and shopping 
moles, that are developed with blind users in mind (turn-by-turn 
navigation and blind friendly interface?

Thank you in advance.

Kind regards,
Lilit

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Facebook on the iPhone

[simon wong]

Hi there is anybody else having trouble with the Facebook on the iPhone today

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new to the list with some questions

[Luis Eduardo Peña]

Hello list,

 

I am a new member of the list, from Cali, Colombia. After many years of
listening to blind people of the great features of the iphone, I finally got
mine this week. Needless to say that this is a great device and that apple
has done a great job with voice over.

 

I have some questions for which I will greatly appreciate receving your
help. Here they are:

1.   How to use skype with the speaker 

2.   How to delete  multiple contacts at once 

3.   How to delete text messages and email messages 

4.   How to use skype with the speaker when placing a voice call 

5.   Is it possible to delete part of a text message, that is, the part
that contains my message and just leave the part of the message sent by the
other person?

6.   When I attempt to install the Australian English premium voice my
iphone keeps saying preparing the download but nothing happens for a long
time. How should I go about  downloading this voice?

 

Best regards,

 

Luis 

 

 

Luis Eduardo Peña 

Psicólogo clínico 

Clínica Farallones 

Calle 9C # 50-25 

Consultorio 1108 

Cali, Colombia 

 

Teléfono: (572) 487-8084 

Teléfono celular: 311-308-8073 

 

www.misicologo.com   

luisp...@misicologo.com 

Skype: luiseduardopena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BBS
Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Searching in TuneIn Radio

 

Hi Jojo. Yes, all of us are experiencing this problem. Time and again we’ve
reported this to their customer service department but it sounds to me that
they won’t do anything about it. It’s really getting stupid.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White Mac Book

 

On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:05 AM, JoJo and Clinton 
wrote:





I have an IPhone 5 and am running the latest version of I O S; and,
recently, I've not been able to search for anything in TuneIn Radio Pro.  I
type what I am trying to search for in the search field and press the search
button.  However, after I double tap the search button, it doesn't bring up
anything.  For example I have tried searching for Christmas, technology etc.
Has anyone else had this problem?  Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

JoJo

 

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Re: weather apps

[james hooper]

it is interesting you should say that a local station here in denver has an app 
called storm shield i wonder if it is the same. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gadget Girl Anita 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 10:33 PM
  Subject: Re: weather apps


  I like Storm Shield.  It gives all types of alerts. You tell it which alerts 
you want. The app follows you around so you always have current weather 
information.  You can also add locations.  The American Red Cross also has apps 
called, hurricane and earthquake

  Regards,
  Gadget Girl Anita


  Sent from my Apple gadget.  Apple, take a bite, express yourself.

  On Nov 2, 2013, at 5:41 PM, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:


Hi all.
I have another question. Do anybody knows an app that provide alerts of 
tornados, or storms depending of our location?
I am in United states, east coast, and would be good receive alerts like 
for example the amber alert that maybe some one on the list received also a few 
days ago.
thanks
Pablo


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Re: differences between read2go and voice dream reader

[Alex Hall]

VDR supports Daisy text and audio, MP3 audio books, text, pdf, epub, MS Word, 
and more. You can import books from iTunes, Dropbox, Google Drive, Bookshare, 
and a couple other sources directly in the app (iTunes requires a computer, of 
course).
On Nov 10, 2013, at 5:27 PM, BroxiBear  wrote:

> Hi Richard. I'm thinking of purchasing this app, but can you use dropbox with 
> it?. What i mean. Can you export books from dropbox into voice dream reader?. 
> What different formats does the appp read. I read lots of ebooks in different 
> formats Epub etc. 
> Hope you can advise, thanks, Billy  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 09 November 2013 8:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: differences between read2go and voice dream reader
> 
> You can contact the developer through the help, but here is the support 
> address:
> supp...@voicedream.com
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
> 
> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:15 PM, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   I never have been able to transfer a book to Voice Dream via iTunes, 
> although I have no problem transferring books to the Read To Go, Bardmobile, 
> or Learning Ally apps.I was unable to find a name or address to whom to write 
> on the Voice Dream web site. If you could provide those, I thank you very 
> much.
>   
>
>   Arnold Schmidt
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Richard Turner   
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 2:28 PM
>   Subject: RE: differences between read2go and voice dream reader
>   
>   
> 
>   I�ve not added daisy text books via iTunes to Voice Dream 
> Reader.
> 
>   I have only used BookShare for that.
> 
>   I�d suggest writing to the developer if someone else doesn�t 
> have a good answer on the list.
> 
>   supp...@voicedream.com
> 
>
> 
>   Richard
> 
>
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
>   Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:09 AM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: differences between read2go and voice dream reader
> 
>
> 
>   ok, I have another question. I understood that voice dream 
> reader plays daisy books. Even daisy text only. I add 10 books in daisy, 
> daisy only text to voice dream reader in iTunes, but only appears a book in 
> daisy, a audio daisy book, where are the 9 books that are in daisy text only?
> 
>   I added these files been in zip, as I did with read2go, it is 
> the right way to add daisy books to the voice dream reader?
> 
>
> 
>   - Original Message - 
> 
>   From: Richard Turner 
>   
> 
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> 
>   Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 1:27 AM
> 
>   Subject: Re: differences between read2go and voice 
> dream reader
> 
>
> 
>   Two more things:
> 
>   Much better support to since it is created by a 
> developer who responds quickly to user feedback.
> 
>   And, with the latest version, you can use any of the 
> VoiceOver built-in voices.
> 
>   The only thing that read 2 go does better than Voice 
> Dream is if you are using a braille display. Apparently read 2 go is easier 
> to use that way. But, otherwise, Voice Dream is far better in every other way.
> 
>
> 
>   
>   Richard 
> 
>   (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
> 
>   
>   On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Alex Hall 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Read2Go is twice the money and has no free 
> trial, plus it only works with Bookshare or Daisy files you share via iTunes. 
> The advantage to it is that it support Daisy audio, but I think the Voice 
> Dream developer is working on similar support. 
> 
>
> 
>   Voice Dream offers many voices, most for a few 
> dollars each, and can read books from Bookshare, Google Drive, Dropbox, and 
> more. It is much easier to control playback, it supports folders, it opens a 
> wider range of file formats, and it has basic support for mp3 audio books 
> (not the same as daisy audio). As mentioned, Voice Dream offers a free trial, 
> which is fully-featured except it will only read a fe

Re: Setting up groups on my iPhone 5

[Daniel Scates]

Chris - Can Groupy enable a user to assign contacts to groups they've 
already created in Gmail? And can you assign a single contact to more than 
one group?

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:18:14 AM UTC-4, Chris Chaffin wrote:
>
>
> I use a simple app called Groupy, and the developer is Gerry Beggs. 
> The app is very voice over friendly. 
> It allows you to organize your contacts into groups.  It integrates 
> directly 
> into the contacts app,so you can choose which groups are displayed within 
> your contacts. 
> You are not limited on the number of groups you can create, or the number 
> of 
> contacts you put into a group. 
> I love it because it is simple and easy to use. 
>
> Here is a link to it in the app store: 
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/groupy/id336727401?mt=8 
>
> If you have questions on how to do something within the app, please let me 
> know. 
>
> HTH, 
>
> Chris Chaffin 
>
>

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IBGStar and accessibility.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hi Folks:

 

Has there been any developments in accessibility for the IBGStar app lately?

 

Thanks all over the place gang.

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money reader

[james hooper]

can you explain simply how to use look tell i launched  it but don't see a 
button to take the picture

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Re: Hulu accessibility

[Cheryl Lenartiene]

Hold off. It is accessible, but it crashes right now if VoiceOver is active. I 
have been in contact with Hulu, and they are working on a fix. 
Cheryl
Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances;
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Brett  wrote:
> 
> if you want to test it, you can get a seven day trial. Hi,
> 
> I am no longer using it, but have used it with iOS seven. Yes it is fully 
> accessible with voice over.
> 
> Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 2:09 pm, Conrad Bennett  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I'm just wondering is Hulu accessible with iOS 7 .3 thanks
>> 
>> Sent from Conrad's iPhone
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best reading app.

[BroxiBear]

hi guys, What is the most accessible reading app, for reading txt and doc
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THE COMMAND KEY ON THE RII 66 MINI BLUETOOTH KEYBOARD!!!

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Everyone;

I found the problem.

I am unable to find the command key on this keyboard.
When I try to use what I think is the command key, I come up with a - hyphen 
that's even with the shift key.

Any ideas?


Thanks
Anthony


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creating a new apple Id

[Kay Malmquist]

HI all,
It has been a while since I have done this and I need to help a friend.  I 
sold him a 4 S and am teaching him how to use it.  I think it would be just 
as easy for him to set up his Apple account on the phone.  To set a new 
account up, would he go to settings and then iTunes and app store on the 
phone to set up that new account?  I have done this before it has just been 
a while and I don't remember.  Thanks for any help.
Kay Malmquist
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iPad and tv?

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Hi guys, I am trying to connect my iPad Mini to my LCD TV?
How do I achievethis please?, Billy

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RE: Papa Sangre two has been released

[rachel & damien]

No you don't have to play the first game. they are two separate games.
smile!  I love them both!




 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Reiser
Sent: 01 November 2013 17:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Papa Sangre two has been released

 

I never played the first version of this game, do I need to play that before
playing this one?

 

Mike

Mike


On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Papa Sangre IIBy Playground Publishing B.V.
If you are reading this, you are already dead. *Important! iPhone 4 is not 
supported, but the game works perfectly on iPhone4S.*

There is no App Store, there is no iPhone and there is no game called Papa 
Sangre. They are all lies. Do not trust your eyes, they deceive you. To get 
back to the other side you must follow your instincts and fight for your 
life.

Special launch price, 33% off for a limited time only!
$3.99 USD
Papa Sangre II is a survival horror game told entirely through sound. It 
starts at your inevitable end. You are dead, and must hunt for memories from

the deceased to get back to the other side. Trapped in the peculiar 
afterlife of Papa Sangre, your guide is the voice of
Sean Bean (Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones).
Death for you is just the beginning.

Key features:
An innovative and truly immersive "audio only" survival horror game.
Starring the voice of Sean Bean (Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings)
Explore the all-new world of Papa Sangre II and enter his Museum of Memories
18 levels of cinema-quality 3D sound design - you won't believe your ears
Fully accessible and simple to use interface
Powered by the most immersive and impressive graphics technology you'll ever

experience: your mind
You will be running from monsters, avoiding traps and shooting ducks. All 
guided by audio only

Papa Sangre II is available in English language only.

The YouTube link for papa sangre 2 trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Digjr59KqOE

The US game app store page:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/papa-sangre-ii/id710535349?mt=8
 &ign-mpt=uo%3D8

 

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Paste

[simon wong]

Hi there everybody hope you're all doing well on this fine Saturday morning I 
was wondering I managed to copy something on my phone but how do I get it 
pasted somewhere like let's say in email

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Voice over volume question

[Marie Reh]

I have found that you have to have voice over speaking to raise and lower
voice over with the buttons on the side of the phone. I have not yet
upgraded to I O S 7 yet.

M

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 2:16 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Voice over volume question

I'm running a 4-S with the 7.0.3 IOS operating system.

What is the best way to raise the voice over volume level relative to the
volume of sources such as Pandora or all football radio?  The voice over
volume is quite adequate unless something else is playing simultaneously.
The only time this is especially troublesome is if I am on the phone reading
news from NFB newsline, during which time it is difficult to hear the voice
over prompts so I can locate the 3 to advance to the next article or to hear
the star to go to the previous heading. Also, in the past, mention has been
made on this list of some volume issue if the voice over volume is reduced
below 35 %. Just what is this issue and how does one resolve it? Thanks.

Don Roberts

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"UNDO TRASH"

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Everyone;
When I am reading my e-mail, I.keep getting a pop up that says:
"Undo Trash".
I hit cancel but, it still comes back.

How can I stop this?

Anthony


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Re: news stand accessible?

[simon wong]

What's newsstand

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-11-01, at 9:50 PM, "melissa tucker"  wrote:

> was wondering if anyone successfully uses the news stand and able to read any 
> magazines using ios7.3?
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Re: Saving files on iPhone

[simon wong]

 I cannot seem to choose any other program besides dropbox so I guess there is 
no other way

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi there everyone happy Halloween I have a question how can you save a file 
> that you've gotten as an attachment on your iPhone when I try to save it it 
> goes to my dropbox but is there any other place I can save it to on the phone
> 
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Re: Google app that is like Siri

[David]

I think the app, you are looking for is called.

talk to eve.

cheers, dave.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pinky 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 4:27 PM
  Subject: RE: Google app that is like Siri


  I just remember watching a podcast that compared Siri to a Google app that 
did the same thing as Siri.  I just cannot remember what the Google app was 
called.  Does anyone have any idea?

   

  Ed

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
  Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:10 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Google app that is like Siri

   

  Are you thinking of the voice option in the Google Search app?

  On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, Pinky wrote:

I watch a podcast of someone showing what Siri and co and what a Google app 
that is like Siri.  For the life of me I cannot remember what the Google app is 
that works like Siri but you can use it on the IOS devices.  Can someone give 
me the name of the Google app?

 

Thanks in advance 

 

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Re: RII Keyboard -- Say All

[Anthony Vece]

,S the function key the long key on the lefthis. Because if it is I can'that 
get it !work.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:04 PM, "Jennie Facer"  wrote:
> 
> The command key is function plus control.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: RII Keyboard -- Say All
> 
> All ∫ -mands are fine but, I am not able  !find the -mand key.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> Try VO+b to simulate a two finger swipe up and read the entire screen. 
>> I'm not sure what guide you found, but Google lead me to the site 
>> http://www.hllf.net/70
>>> On 10/31/2013 11:42 AM, SSEric wrote:
>>> Anthony, thanks.
>>> 
>>> Do you know the strokes for say-all on any BT keyboard? I did find a 
>>> keystroke guide for the RII but it did not include this command.
>>> 
>>> Anything helps!
>>> 
>>> Eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Anthony Vece
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:08 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: RII Keyboard -- Say All
>>> 
>>> Hi Eric;
>>> 
>>> I am still trying to find out how to put this keyboard into help mode.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
>>> 
 On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:03 AM, SSEric  wrote:
 
 Can someone help me with the keystrokes to start reading from 
 current
>>> position to end using this little keyboard. I know there are a couple 
>>> of tutorials, but I just needed this command as soon as possible.
 All thanks!
 
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new member, question about the Dice World app

[David]

Hi, I have the iPhone 4s, and since i upgraded to iOS 7.03, i am having 
problems with seeing the scores of the other player on the Dice World mane 
page, it just seems to say there user name only!.


I have tryed uninstalling the app twice, and reinstalling it, and still have 
the same problem.


sorry if this question has been asked before, but as i say, i am a new 
member.


I have written to the makers of Dice World, and had no reply.

anybody else having this ishue, and can offer any help?.

Many thanks,

Dave. 


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Re: Translation

[Lilit Grigoryan]

Hi again!

I think this one is accessible since it is powered by nuance:
https://itunes.apple.com/app/id413502318
Best,
Lilit

On 11/2/2013 11:26 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:


Sparkling Apps recently came out with an app called Voice to Voice 
which I believe does this. But, to me, it does not seem VO accessible. 
I've written them asking if they could try to make this VO accessible, 
but have not heard back. It wouldn't hurt for others to write them to 
ask if this app can be made accessible to VO.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Pablo Morales

*Sent:* Saturday, November 02, 2013 12:35 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Translation

Hi all.

Just wondering, if someone here knows an app that for example, If I 
say something in Spanish, the app translate it to English, or English 
to Spanish? Something that works with voice, not typing words.


Thanks

Pablo

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