My email address with Uber?

[fzlmahmood30]

Hi, list.

How do I know what address I have used with Uber, please?

Thanks!



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Why use a Braille display with the Iphone

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was just wondering, what are some reasons for wanting to use a Braille 
display with your Iphone?

What are the benefits?

What are the disadvantages?


Honestly, I've never understood why you would want to do this. I'm not 
trying to offend anyone here who uses one. I've just never seen the point.

But now I am curious. Just to get some hopefully helpful information 
about this.

I was wondering, how can you find out which Braille displays will work 
with the Iphone?


Thank you,


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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[rajmund]

Hello Pablo,
Thanks for that.  However, I guess I wanted to
prove that you can keep things on earlier versions, and you're 
not forced.  It's a first generation air, so should
take the update fine.  Yes, I have just been keep canceling, but 
everyone can do that.  So I'll say it again, apple tries, but is 
not forcing the updates.Sent from a BrailleNote



- Original Message -
From: "Pablo C.  Morales"   hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come 
I'm still on 9 with the iPad?

Best regards, the big, huge, troll.  :P



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  

iOS 10.2 and iPhone 5s

[christopher hallsworth]

Morning everyone.

Has anyone got the screen to nake an emergency call after updating to iOS 10.2 
on an iPhone 5s? Or is my girlfriend's iPhone 5s showing signs of stupidity? 
Lol! Seriously, are these signs her device is breaking? The strange thing is 
she only got this screen after restarting VoiceOver after it froze right after 
the update. Thanks in advance for any responses.


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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Just a quick note to remind you that we're all on the same accessibility team, 
here; so let's take it down a proverbial notch or two and be gracious in how we 
express ourselves.   

I am requesting that we keep this thread on point, said point being the issue 
of the disappearing keypad during calls on iPhone 7.

Thank you for honoring my request.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Okay, here's my thoughts.
I have sent plenty of feedback to Apple. I was on the beta program with iOS 10, 
probably 9 too. I sent them pretty good ideas, like being able to edit text in 
braille screen input mode, being able to spell check, that is, move from one 
error to the next and correct them using the rotor, using braille screen input 
to input notes, using braille music, into garageband... And of course, the bug 
reports. The mail freezing bug after sending an email, that's embarrassing! And 
now, the focus bugs with moving from message to message in iOS. That's been 
here for months. I reported it all, many times. I received the silence 
treatment, though, including in waiting on bugs to be fixed and features 
implemented. But I didn't stay silent as well, for long. I decided to jump 
ship, and landed on another ship, which is actually moving towards land! I got 
a Google Pixel phone. It's fast, has great battery life, and even a headphone 
jack! Is this revenge against Apple? Shoot, maybe, but it's what we Americans 
call voting with our dollars, and that's what I did. The Pixel isn't some $80 
phone, either. It's Google's own phone, around the price of the iPhone.
Does it have bugs? Yes, especially if you use a bluetooth or USB keyboard with 
it for a long time. Can it be used just like the iPhone? Yep, it sure can, and 
that's what I do. Does it take a little getting used to? Yes, but after a week 
or two, it works fine.
Guys, don't feel like Apple is the only way. It's not. If you don't like being 
walled in, a prisoner of Apple's guidelines on what you can do with the device 
you paid money for, if you don't like the way you can't talk with the 
developers of the screen reader, if you don't like Siri, or having to use 
Safari, then Android is waiting. iOS or Android isn't really about 
accessibility anymore. It's about choice, and all blind people have that choice 
to make.
Now, don't do what I did and get a $80 tablet to try Android on. Make sure the 
thing you get runs android 7, or will run it soon. Don't get a low-speck device 
and expect it to run well, it's just like a computer, which is the beauty of 
it. If you know how to get old low-speck things working, then you can, but if 
you don't, you'll need to spend a little more money.
All that to say, Android isn't 2.3 or 4 anymore. It's 7, and has grown much 
over the years. It's not inaccessible anymore, and is usable. It's a choice 
now, like Mac or Windows. The only reason iOS is seen as better is because it 
was first.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:29 PM Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
Just another perspective, but I don't think Android is lagging as far
behind Apple in accessibility as others do. I use a Samsung S7 now, and
I find it just as accessible and usable as I do my iPhone. I can't speak
to what other's have experienced with Android, but I think how
accessible you find Android depends a lot on how you use your smart
phone and which smart phone you end up trying. I'm not trying to
convince anyone that Android is better or even as good as IOS; I'm just
presenting another perspective.

On 13/12/16 10:47, Davy Cuppens wrote:
> Guys
>
> Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the
> world for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems
> are lagging far far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a
> very slow rate.
>
> Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre
> but each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible
> for years now till last week their app became really 100% useless you
> cannot even login anymore.
> The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could
> revert to that one! grin Regards
> Regards
>
> Davy
>
> *From:* Mário Gabriel 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks friend
> Someone had to say it.
> It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having
> in recent years.
> Patience also runs out.
> And mine is long gone.
> note:
> I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
>
> It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
> cheers.
>
>
> Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:
>> Totally right, Mario.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 

Re: quck restart IPhone in IOS 10.2

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. I don't think there's a way to bring that back. Besides, that method of 
restarting your phone will eventually corrupt the springboard. If you want to 
do a quick restart, simply hold the power and home buttons for 5 seconds on 
iPhones that aren't the 7 or 7+ and for the 7 and 7+ hold the power and volume 
down button for 5 seconds.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
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Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:33 PM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> in IOS 10.1 or pior version . we can  restart the IPhone quickly  by pressing 
> the Power button 5 times
> but, inIOS 10.2.
> it change to imergincy  call. and it is not for all contries/ regin
> can we  change it back to restart the phone?
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Ming
> 
> msn/window live messenger
> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
> skype:
> chungchiming9950
> 
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quck restart IPhone in IOS 10.2

['Ming' via VIPhone]

Hi all!
in IOS 10.1 or pior version . we can  restart the IPhone quickly  by pressing 
the Power button 5 times
but, inIOS 10.2.
it change to imergincy  call. and it is not for all contries/ regin
can we  change it back to restart the phone?

thanks!



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quck restart IPhone in IOS 10.2hi all!

['Ming' via VIPhone]

Ming
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Devin Prater]

Okay, here's my thoughts.
I have sent plenty of feedback to Apple. I was on the beta program with iOS
10, probably 9 too. I sent them pretty good ideas, like being able to edit
text in braille screen input mode, being able to spell check, that is, move
from one error to the next and correct them using the rotor, using braille
screen input to input notes, using braille music, into garageband... And of
course, the bug reports. The mail freezing bug after sending an email,
that's embarrassing! And now, the focus bugs with moving from message to
message in iOS. That's been here for months. I reported it all, many times.
I received the silence treatment, though, including in waiting on bugs to
be fixed and features implemented. But I didn't stay silent as well, for
long. I decided to jump ship, and landed on another ship, which is actually
moving towards land! I got a Google Pixel phone. It's fast, has great
battery life, and even a headphone jack! Is this revenge against Apple?
Shoot, maybe, but it's what we Americans call voting with our dollars, and
that's what I did. The Pixel isn't some $80 phone, either. It's Google's
own phone, around the price of the iPhone.
Does it have bugs? Yes, especially if you use a bluetooth or USB keyboard
with it for a long time. Can it be used just like the iPhone? Yep, it sure
can, and that's what I do. Does it take a little getting used to? Yes, but
after a week or two, it works fine.
Guys, don't feel like Apple is the only way. It's not. If you don't like
being walled in, a prisoner of Apple's guidelines on what you can do with
the device you paid money for, if you don't like the way you can't talk
with the developers of the screen reader, if you don't like Siri, or having
to use Safari, then Android is waiting. iOS or Android isn't really about
accessibility anymore. It's about choice, and all blind people have that
choice to make.
Now, don't do what I did and get a $80 tablet to try Android on. Make sure
the thing you get runs android 7, or will run it soon. Don't get a
low-speck device and expect it to run well, it's just like a computer,
which is the beauty of it. If you know how to get old low-speck things
working, then you can, but if you don't, you'll need to spend a little more
money.

All that to say, Android isn't 2.3 or 4 anymore. It's 7, and has grown much
over the years. It's not inaccessible anymore, and is usable. It's a choice
now, like Mac or Windows. The only reason iOS is seen as better is because
it was first.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:29 PM Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:

> Just another perspective, but I don't think Android is lagging as far
> behind Apple in accessibility as others do. I use a Samsung S7 now, and
> I find it just as accessible and usable as I do my iPhone. I can't speak
> to what other's have experienced with Android, but I think how
> accessible you find Android depends a lot on how you use your smart
> phone and which smart phone you end up trying. I'm not trying to
> convince anyone that Android is better or even as good as IOS; I'm just
> presenting another perspective.
>
> On 13/12/16 10:47, Davy Cuppens wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> > Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the
> > world for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems
> > are lagging far far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a
> > very slow rate.
> >
> > Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre
> > but each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible
> > for years now till last week their app became really 100% useless you
> > cannot even login anymore.
> > The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could
> > revert to that one! grin Regards
> > Regards
> >
> > Davy
> >
> > *From:* Mário Gabriel 
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
> > *Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks friend
> > Someone had to say it.
> > It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having
> > in recent years.
> > Patience also runs out.
> > And mine is long gone.
> > note:
> > I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
> >
> > It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
> > cheers.
> >
> >
> > Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:
> >> Totally right, Mario.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> >>
> >> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> >>
> >> Is that right?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> >>> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of
> >>> the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much
> 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[TaraPrakash]

I also have an iphone 4 with IOS 5 on it. I can still see an update available 
in my generall settings which I am not using. No force. Force means that you 
can't use your phone unless you update it. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2016, at 4:35 AM, Pablo C. Morales  wrote:
> 
> For three possible reasons. 1. You had to setup your iPad to avoid 
> downloading the IOS. It is no the default configuration, so if you don't have 
> the training to do this, then you will have IOs in your iPad.
> 2. You don't have  the last IOs, so you are no able to receive tech support. 
> I assume that you don't have the iPad last release, so probably you don't 
> care about it. But if your iPad still is able to receive tech support, then 
> apple will decline to give you tech support.
> 3. You had cancelled several times the announcements saying  that you have a 
> IOs update.
> One of these is why you are running IOs 9.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rajmund
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
> And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste. Fine by 
> me.  This statement is sooo false:
> ">  hi Pablo.
>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>> Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still 
>> on 9 with the iPad?
> Best regards, the big, huge, troll. :P
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.
>> 
>> 
>> as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
>>> Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
>>> straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on 
>>> IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my 
>>> face, so no worries. All's good, indeed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a Braille Sense
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>> 
 
 
 
 We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
 Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
 cheers.
 
 
 as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> Hello,
> Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> hi Pablo.
>> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>> Sooner or later we have to do it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
>> 
>> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have 
>> a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support 
>> if you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the 
>> tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by 
>> default download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your 
>> life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready 
>> to be install.
>> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>> 
>> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
>> don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
>> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
>> mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
>> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
>> to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Christopher Chaltain]

Just another perspective, but I don't think Android is lagging as far 
behind Apple in accessibility as others do. I use a Samsung S7 now, and 
I find it just as accessible and usable as I do my iPhone. I can't speak 
to what other's have experienced with Android, but I think how 
accessible you find Android depends a lot on how you use your smart 
phone and which smart phone you end up trying. I'm not trying to 
convince anyone that Android is better or even as good as IOS; I'm just 
presenting another perspective.


On 13/12/16 10:47, Davy Cuppens wrote:

Guys

Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the
world for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems
are lagging far far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a
very slow rate.

Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre
but each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible
for years now till last week their app became really 100% useless you
cannot even login anymore.
The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could
revert to that one! grin Regards
Regards

Davy

*From:* Mário Gabriel 
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:






Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having
in recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.


Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel > wrote:





How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?



cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way
to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda > wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend
has a 7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.



It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens
if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials
the call manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.



She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.



Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer
menu prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.



Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it
happens for some and not others.



Thanks.



Don






On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,



Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed
any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10,
I am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem
here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of
the time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if
I want access to any of the other buttons.



Regards,

Sieghard

**

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:



I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue
where the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't
has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don



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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mr. Ed]

There you have it folks. He’s a whiner and a complainer and he never reports 
anything to Apple. 

For your information I have sent emails to Apple support. So there is your 
answer. You are not going to answer because you are just a whiner and a 
complainer. Another thing I am not the one doing the whining and complaining 
like you are. Like I said before if you don’t like Apple then go get an android 
phone. You must be a hard head as people on this list don’t like to hear you 
whining like a little two year old on hear. This group is for grownups. This 
list is to help people with their issues. 

So have a nice day.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 


Man, why do you think I'm so mad  and furious.

I ask you the same question that you ask me.
How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple 

Do you think I'm going to spend my life reporting issues and never seeing them 
resolved?
you like it?
cheers.

 

Às 16:57 de 13/12/2016, Mr. Ed escreveu:

Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I would like to 
ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple support 
on issues you are having. I would be willing to bet you are a whiner and 
complainer about a lot of other things but you don’t try and solve any of them. 
If you have contacted Apple support many times to report issues then I 
apologize to you. If you have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy 
with Apple then why don’t you get an Android phone?  

So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So either email 
Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way what the issue is. 
Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to this group whining and 
complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.

 

Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

 

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


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On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group   

Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of 

RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo C. Morales]

For three possible reasons. 1. You had to setup your iPad to avoid downloading 
the IOS. It is no the default configuration, so if you don't have the training 
to do this, then you will have IOs in your iPad.
2. You don't have  the last IOs, so you are no able to receive tech support. I 
assume that you don't have the iPad last release, so probably you don't care 
about it. But if your iPad still is able to receive tech support, then apple 
will decline to give you tech support.
3. You had cancelled several times the announcements saying  that you have a 
IOs update.
One of these is why you are running IOs 9.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste. Fine by 
me.  This statement is sooo false:
">  hi Pablo.
>  Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>  Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still 
>  on 9 with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll. :P



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.
> 
> 
> as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
> > straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on 
> > IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my 
> > face, so no worries. All's good, indeed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> >> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> >> cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> >>> choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>
>    
> 
> 
> 
>  hi Pablo.
>  Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>  Sooner or later we have to do it.
> 
> 
> 
>  as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> 
>  Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have 
>  a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support 
>  if you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the 
>  tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by 
>  default download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your 
>  life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready 
>  to be install.
>  So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>  Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
>  No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
>  don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> 
> 
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>  Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
>  Guys,
>  I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
>  accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
>  mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
>  accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
>  to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
>  android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
>  Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>  Behalf Of regina alvarado
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
>  To: 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Rajmund]

And you still didn't answer me.  Suppose it's time to copy and paste. Fine by 
me.  This statement is sooo false:
">  hi Pablo.
>  Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>  Sooner or later we have to do it." If this was true, how come I'm still 
>  on 9 with the iPad?
Best regards, the big, huge, troll. :P



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.
> 
> 
> as 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
> > straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on 
> > IOS9? Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my 
> > face, so no worries. All's good, indeed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> >> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> >> cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> >>> choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from a Braille Sense
> >>>
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>>
>    
> 
> 
> 
>  hi Pablo.
>  Yes apple forces us to do the update.
>  Sooner or later we have to do it.
> 
> 
> 
>  as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> 
>  Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have 
>  a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support 
>  if you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the 
>  tech support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by 
>  default download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your 
>  life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready 
>  to be install.
>  So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>  Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
>  No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
>  don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> 
> 
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>  Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
>  Guys,
>  I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
>  accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
>  mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
>  accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
>  to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
>  android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
>  Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>  Behalf Of regina alvarado
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> 
> 
>  mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more 
>  it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have 
>  heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. 
>  Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping 
>  not complaining, please.
> 
>  Reggie and Lex
> 
> 
>  On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>    
> 
>  How do you know that apple is looking to it?
>  Apple always looks, but never solves ...
>  Is that right?
> 
>  cheers.
> 
>  as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>  Hello all, I see the 

Apple ear pods, really?

[regina alvarado]

Hmmm! Very interesting. I just got a notification that the Apple ear pods have 
hit eBay at 1590. Really? Is that pennies, dollars, or dollars and cents. My 
chuckle for today. I even listened on my lock screen about 4 more times because 
I was so incredulous, but yes I and you now heard it right! 



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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Someone has to tell you. God, you really are a big Troll.


Às 20:50 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on IOS9? 
Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my face, so 
no worries. All's good, indeed.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:





We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
cheers.


as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a choice, 
how come I'm still on 9, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

  




hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support if 
you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of 
announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.
So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
   
   
   
   
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
   
No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
   
   
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
   
Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.
Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
   
   
mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.
   
Reggie and Lex
   


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
  
   
How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?
   
cheers.
   
as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.
   
The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
   
It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
   
Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
   
She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.
   
My phone does not do this at all.
   
Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.
   
Many people have this issue and many don't.
   
Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some and not others.
   
Thanks.
   
Don
   
   
   
On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,
   
Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference on my 6S 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Rajmund]

Yes, I do. You said that we're all forced to update. And I'm telling you 
straight up, publicly, that we're not, otherwise how can I still be on IOS9? 
Feel free to insult me, a few of your messages bought the smile on my face, so 
no worries. All's good, indeed.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> 
> We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
> Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
> cheers.
> 
> 
> as 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:
> > Hello,
> > Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a 
> > choice, how come I'm still on 9, please?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
> > Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> hi Pablo.
> >> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> >> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> >>
> >> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
> >> problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if 
> >> you don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech 
> >> support if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default 
> >> download the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard 
> >> with hundreds of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be 
> >> install.
> >> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Larry Lumpkin
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't 
> >> plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of Pablo Cesar Morales
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >> Guys,
> >> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
> >> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so 
> >> mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
> >> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able 
> >> to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried 
> >> android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
> >> Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >>   
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> >> Of regina alvarado
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
> >>   
> >>   
> >> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more 
> >> it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have 
> >> heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. 
> >> Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not 
> >> complaining, please.
> >>   
> >> Reggie and Lex
> >>   
> >>
> >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> >>  
> >>   
> >> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> >> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> >> Is that right?
> >>   
> >> cheers.
> >>   
> >> as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> >> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
> >> numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
> >> However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
> >> swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
> >> Amy
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> >> Hi Sieghard.
> >> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> >> she does have the problem.
> >>   
> >> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> >>   
> >> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
> >> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
> >> as well.
> >>   
> >> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> >>   
> >> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> >> keypad again its probably to late.
> >>  

Re: Sending text message as email

[Wayne Merritt]

If you have email setup on your iOS device, you could use the copy to
clipboard VO command of a 3 finger quadruple tap to copy that text to
the clipboard, then bring up mail, compose a new message with the
group of people filled in, and paste the clipboard text in the message
body. Again though, this is assuming you have an email account set in
the iOS Mail app. If not, then go to Settings, Mail, and Accounts, and
double tap the add account button.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 12/12/16, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
> Thank you. Here is what I need to do. Someone has sent me an iMessage and
> has asked me to send it to a group of people as an email. Is there a way to
> do this easily? Right now, I copy the text of the iMessage word by word onto
> my PC email programn and I send it to the group of people as an email from
> my PC. I'm hoping there's a way to do this without having to copy the text
> of the message by hand. Thank you so much. Best, Terrie Terlau
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi! Wahat do you want to do? You have diside if you want send email or
>> text message. You can't send mail as text message.
>>
>> Sent from  my iphone
>>
>> ‫ב-13 בדצמ׳ 2016, בשעה 0:55, ‏‏Terrie Terlau ‏ כתב/ה:‬
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me steps to send text of an iMessage to other people in
>>> the email? I do not know how to copy and paste if that is the way to go.
>>> I have looked for other options in the iPhone message app but don't see a
>>> way to directly email iMessage. Right now, I and slowly and tediously
>>> copying the message from the phone to outlook on my PC and then sending
>>> from there. I hope there's another way. Thanks very much.
>>> Best,
>>> Terrie Terlau
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

We are talking about updates on iOS 10 not 9. not new releases.
Do you still want me to tell you something else. please?
cheers.


Às 18:23 de 13/12/2016, Rajmund escreveu:

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a choice, 
how come I'm still on 9, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:



 




hi Pablo.
Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.



as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support if 
you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of 
announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.
So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
  
  
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Cesar Morales

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.
Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
  
mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.
  
Reggie and Lex
  


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
 
  
How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...
Is that right?
  
cheers.
  
as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
Hi Sieghard.
I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.
  
The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
  
It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
  
Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
  
She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.
  
My phone does not do this at all.
  
Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.
  
Many people have this issue and many don't.
  
Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some and not others.
  
Thanks.
  
Don
  
  
  
On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,
  
Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.
  
Regards,

Sieghard
  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group 
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
I 

RE: how to get apps from phone to iPad and then have them sync

[Thom Spittle]

Can't you backup the first device. Then, when setting up the new device, set it 
up using the backup?

I don't do this sort of thing, but think that's how you do it.

Thom

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to get apps from phone to iPad and then have them sync

I think you have to go to the app store on your new device and download 
whatever apps you want. I don't know another way to do it.

On 12/12/16, regina alvarado  wrote:
> Basic questions. I am getting an iPad Air II. It is 32 gigs. It will 
> be basically blank. How do I get apps synced to it from the iPhone 
> without doing it by hand? I had a 16 gig iPad that I had somehow 
> gotten only to display apps for reading and videos and a few other 
> things that were not games. Now I will have a 32 gig and want to have 
> the same things on each device. I forgot what I did. Can anyone help? 
> Thanks in advance. I know this is basic, but just cannot remember what I did 
> before.
>
>
>
> Reggie and Lex
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Re: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

[Dan]

hello Chip,
Yes I agree with you it is kind of strange and clunky but I guess it works to 
some degree.



Dan

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does help!  However, it’s like having to use the pass-through jesture 
> in order to check a checkbox, very strange.
>  
> Thanks much for the tip,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an 
> accessibility problem to Apple?
>  
> Thanks Dan, I’ll try and let you know.
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dan
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 5:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an 
> accessibility problem to Apple?
>  
> Hello,
> For what it's worth, this is how I usually use the Alexa App on my iPhone 6S 
> Plus iOS 10.1.1.
> This is how I activate links or check boxes.
> I double Tap, I hold the tap for a second or so and it usually works. But if 
> I tap quickly and release my finger, usually things won't work. I have also 
> spoken to Amazon and filled out the feedback form, but??
> Just my thoughts on the subject.
>  
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Dec 11, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
>  
> Good point, so I’ll mention it here:  I and my wife and constantly making use 
> of the Amazon Echo feature which lets you create shopping lists.  My problem 
> with VO is that when I use the Alexa app on the Iphone, and try to take items 
> off of the list once purchased (by tapping the checkbox next to the item), 
> most of the time the checkbox remains unchecked.  Rarely it will changed to 
> “checked” status, but it’s completely random.
>  
> I’ve written to Amazon a couple of times, and called them on the phone once, 
> and they’ve told me their testing hasn’t turned up any issues with the app; 
> so, I’ll write Apple to see if it’s a VO problem instead of an Alexa app 
> problem.
>  
> Anyone have any ideas?  Can anyone else duplicate this?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?
>  
> Hi Chip,
>  
> What problem are you planning to report? I find it’s often a good idea to 
> also post it to the list and in fact I sometimes post something to the list 
> and CC Apple Accessibility on it or vice versa since sometimes what I think 
> might be a bug is something others don’t experience, have a fix for or in 
> some cases Apple may have changed how something is supposed to work and it 
> may appear as a bug when it is not. I am not saying this is the case with 
> your issue, but if you let the list know then others can try to reproduce it 
> as well and add their voice to yours in reporting it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?
>  
> Can someone give me the email to use in order to report a possible IOS 
> accessibility issue to Apple?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Chip
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Re: Alarm clock sound and iOS 10.1.1

[Kimber Gardner]

Interestingly, I have the exact opposite problem where VO gets super
loud when the alarm sounds and remains loud until the alarm is
disabled. I suggest you report this issue to Apple as I have.

On 12/12/16, Shai  wrote:
> Hello,
> I am using VoiceOver with iOS 10.1.1 on an iPhone6s and I notice that
> after setting an alarm using Siri or setting it manually via the Clock
> app, and locking the screen, the alarm will sound and vibrate normally
> but then the sound will become softer and remain in this state until
> the alarm is disabled.
> Has anyone else noticed this and has this been resolved in the new iOS
> released today?
> Thank you in advance for any responses
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RE: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

[Chip Orange]

Yes, it does help!  However, it’s like having to use the pass-through jesture 
in order to check a checkbox, very strange.

 

Thanks much for the tip,

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an 
accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Thanks Dan, I’ll try and let you know.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem with Alexa app and VO; was what's the email to report an 
accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hello,

For what it's worth, this is how I usually use the Alexa App on my iPhone 6S 
Plus iOS 10.1.1.

This is how I activate links or check boxes.

I double Tap, I hold the tap for a second or so and it usually works. But if I 
tap quickly and release my finger, usually things won't work. I have also 
spoken to Amazon and filled out the feedback form, but??

Just my thoughts on the subject.

 

Dan


On Dec 11, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Chip Orange  wrote:

Hi Sieghard,

 

Good point, so I’ll mention it here:  I and my wife and constantly making use 
of the Amazon Echo feature which lets you create shopping lists.  My problem 
with VO is that when I use the Alexa app on the Iphone, and try to take items 
off of the list once purchased (by tapping the checkbox next to the item), most 
of the time the checkbox remains unchecked.  Rarely it will changed to 
“checked” status, but it’s completely random.

 

I’ve written to Amazon a couple of times, and called them on the phone once, 
and they’ve told me their testing hasn’t turned up any issues with the app; so, 
I’ll write Apple to see if it’s a VO problem instead of an Alexa app problem.

 

Anyone have any ideas?  Can anyone else duplicate this?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Hi Chip,

 

What problem are you planning to report? I find it’s often a good idea to also 
post it to the list and in fact I sometimes post something to the list and CC 
Apple Accessibility on it or vice versa since sometimes what I think might be a 
bug is something others don’t experience, have a fix for or in some cases Apple 
may have changed how something is supposed to work and it may appear as a bug 
when it is not. I am not saying this is the case with your issue, but if you 
let the list know then others can try to reproduce it as well and add their 
voice to yours in reporting it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what's the email to report an accessibility problem to Apple?

 

Can someone give me the email to use in order to report a possible IOS 
accessibility issue to Apple?

 

Thanks,

 

Chip

 

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RE: battery draining need to reboot

[Chip Orange]

Do you know there was an Apple recall on 6S phones for this very battery 
problem?  If you search on the topic of Iphone and battery recall, you'll find 
an Apple site where you can enter your serial number to see if your phone is 
covered.

Chip


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Donna
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 8:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: battery draining need to reboot

Man oh man! I'm having dramatic battery draining since the latest update!! I've 
backed up my iPhone 6 twice & done a complete restore with no resolution. My 
phone will appear to be completely dead when the battery is 40-50% full. I've 
done a hard reset many many times. I've turned off the phone & left it off for 
up to 15 minutes. I have everything in Location services set to never except 
find my iPhone. I'm out of ideas! 

Hope you have success in resolving this problem. 

Donna
> 
> hi, my iPhone 6, after the latest update, is draining rather too fast! I have 
> made and in cryptic back up on my partners computer, windows, and I'm now 
> thinking to do a full reset. so, do I do it on the phone which is called 
> eraise iPhone, or do I do it through iTunes? then, can I reinstall all my 
> apps and data via that encrypt it back up?
> 
> thanks in advance, fingers crossed, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Interesting, my iPad is still happy on 9.3.5. If we truly didn't have a choice, 
how come I'm still on 9, please?



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mc3a1rio_Gabriel  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hi Pablo.
> Yes apple forces us to do the update.
> Sooner or later we have to do it.
> 
> 
> 
> as 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
> 
> Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
> problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
> don't have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support 
> if you don't have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download 
> the IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds 
> of announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.
> So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
> No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don't 
> plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Cesar Morales
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
> Guys,
> I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
> accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
> because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
> accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to 
> use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, 
> and I changed my mind. Apple is better.
> Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> regina alvarado
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
>  
> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
> will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it 
> is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call 
> Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, 
> please.
>  
> Reggie and Lex
>  
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
>  
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> Is that right?
>  
> cheers.
>  
> as 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad 
> button and activate it.
> Amy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> Hi Sieghard.
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
>  
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>  
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
>  
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>  
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
>  
> My phone does not do this at all.
>  
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
>  
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>  
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Don
>  
>  
>  
> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Don and others,
>  
> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
> issue?
> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
> buttons.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Don Breda
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
> To: VIPhone google group 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Anthony Vece]

You are most certainly entitled to your opinion and your emotions. However the 
way you were presenting it makes you look bad.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks friend
> Someone had to say it.
> It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
> recent years.
> Patience also runs out.
> And mine is long gone.
> note:
> I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
> 
> It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:
>> Totally right, Mario.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
>>> 
>>> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
>>> 
>>> Is that right?
>>> 
>>> cheers.
>>> 
>>> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
 Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
 numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
 However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
 swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
 Amy
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
 
> Hi Sieghard.
> 
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
> and she does have the problem.
> 
> 
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> 
> 
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
> as well.
> 
> 
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> 
> 
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
> the keypad again its probably to late.
> 
> 
> My phone does not do this at all.
> 
> 
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
> prompts etc.
> 
> 
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> 
> 
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
> some and not others.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Don and others,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
>> using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
>> exactly the issue?
>> 
>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
>> but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
>> keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any 
>> of the other buttons.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Don Breda
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone google group 
>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Anthony Vece]

Please take your childish emotions off this list.
No one wants to read them and, they don't solve anything.
Thank you in advance.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:51 PM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Pablo
> Yes I know VO is still the best screen reader in the world  for devices.
> And that the apple platform is also the most accessible.
> 
> Yes, I prefer issues with accessibility than  without  accessibility.
> Yes, I also know all the talkback issues on android, and everything else you 
> can talk about.
> But all this does not take away my rights to want more and demand what normal 
> people demand ...
> 
> We can not stay all the time saying amen to all the good that apple has done 
> in the past and now it does bad in the present.
> I have my rights and always fight for them.
> And my rights have to be respected by apple as well as apple respects the 
> rights of normal people.
> Apple has to work for me as an obligation and respect as a duty.
> Apple can not think that it works for me as if it were doing me a favor.
> I paid a small fortune to have a phone, and because Apple says on their 
> official accessibility website that their devices are 100 percent accessible 
> and can be used with total satisfaction.
> And this is not true.
> The issues of accessibility have to have the same commitment that apple has 
> with normal people.
> I am being discriminated and I have to fight for my rights.
> And that's what we should all do.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 16:44 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:
>> Mario,
>> I understand you very well. Months ago, I was so mad. Months ago I was in 
>> the list so mad about the ssame issues that you are talking about. However, 
>> I tried android, and I learned that if IOs is no perfect, it is better than 
>> android regarding accessibility.
>> IOs is no working well, apple broke the accessibility that was working 
>> before, apple is affecting you because you are no able to use your device in 
>> the way how you should. Yes, all of these are true.
>> But the accessibility on android is no like the accessibility in IOs. My 
>> suggestion is that you get relax, and write an email with all the points how 
>> IOs is affecting you with this update. If they don’t heard you, they are no 
>> going to fix anything. Android has fixed some of the accessibility issues in 
>> the last 5 yeears?
>> No, and they have improved accessibility  very little in the last android 
>> updates.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mário Gabriel
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:27 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>  
>>
>> 
>> 
>> don't   be fullish.
>> What do you think I've been doing?
>> What do you think we've all done?
>> Do you think we were rewarded for it?
>> And you, have done your part?
>> come on girl, open your eyes.
>> cheers.
>> 
>>  
>> Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:
>>  
>> mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
>> will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it 
>> is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call 
>> Apple support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, 
>> please.
>> 
>>  
>> Reggie and Lex
>>  
>> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>> 
>>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
>> 
>> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
>> 
>> Is that right?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> cheers.
>> 
>>  
>> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
>> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
>> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
>> keypad button and activate it.
>> Amy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard.
>> 
>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
>> she does have the problem.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
>> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
>> keypad again its probably to late.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My phone does not do this at all.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
>> etc.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
>> some and not 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Donald L. Roberts]

I too have these issues on my iPhone 6.


Don Roberts



On 12/13/2016 3:33 AM, Don Breda wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if 
she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group 
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been 
resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed 
it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

If you do not appreciate my language, do not eat.
I'm not here to please you.

I did not talk with  you.
Put yourself in your place


Às 17:28 de 13/12/2016, Anthony Vece escreveu:

I don't appreciate your language either Mario. it's not nice

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Mr. Ed > wrote:



Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I 
would like to ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or 
talked to Apple support on issues you are having. I would be willing 
to bet you are a whiner and complainer about a lot of other things 
but you don’t try and solve any of them. If you have contacted Apple 
support many times to report issues then I apologize to you. If you 
have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy with Apple then 
why don’t you get an Android phone?


So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So 
either email Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way 
what the issue is. Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to 
this group whining and complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.


Mr. Ed

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mário Gabriel

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been 
having in recent years.

Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel
> wrote:

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As
most of the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't
have too much difficulty. However, if there are prompts
involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the
keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda
> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but
my friend has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the
call is connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it
also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and
selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she
fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones
to answer menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know
why it happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I
haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever
since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here,
what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap
to bring up the keypad, but that has always been
the case at times, but most of the time the
keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if
I want access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group


*Subject:* IOS 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[pegkane52]

I agree with Mr. Ed if you have reported the issue to Apple and are still 
dissatisfied why don't you try an android phone and maybe you will like that 
better.

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mario,
> You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I would like 
> to ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple 
> support on issues you are having. I would be willing to bet you are a whiner 
> and complainer about a lot of other things but you don’t try and solve any of 
> them. If you have contacted Apple support many times to report issues then I 
> apologize to you. If you have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy 
> with Apple then why don’t you get an Android phone?  
> So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So either 
> email Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way what the issue 
> is. Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to this group whining and 
> complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.
>  
> Mr. Ed
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mário Gabriel
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
>
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks friend
> Someone had to say it.
> It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
> recent years.
> Patience also runs out.
> And mine is long gone.
> note:
> I do not respond to fan boys' replies.
> 
> It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
> cheers.
> 
>  
> Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:
> Totally right, Mario.
>  
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  wrote:
>
> 
>  
> 
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> 
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> 
> Is that right?
> 
>  
> 
> cheers.
> 
>  
> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad 
> button and activate it.
> Amy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard.
> 
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
> 
>  
> 
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> 
>  
> 
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
> 
>  
> 
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> 
>  
> 
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
> 
>  
> 
> My phone does not do this at all.
> 
>  
> 
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
> 
>  
> 
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> 
>  
> 
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Don and others,
>  
> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
> issue?
> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
> buttons.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Don Breda
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
> To: VIPhone google group 
> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>  
> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
> disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
> 
>  
> 
> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
> yet so not getting my hopes up.
> 
>  
> 
> Don
> 
>  
> 
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi Pablo
Yes I know VO is still the best screen reader in the world  for devices.
And that the apple platform is also the most accessible.

Yes, I prefer issues with accessibility than  without accessibility.
Yes, I also know all the talkback issues on android, and everything else 
you can talk about.
But all this does not take away my rights to want more and demand what 
normal people demand ...


We can not stay all the time saying amen to all the good that apple has 
done in the past and now it does bad in the present.

I have my rights and always fight for them.
And my rights have to be respected by apple as well as apple respects 
the rights of normal people.

Apple has to work for me as an obligation and respect as a duty.
Apple can not think that it works for me as if it were doing me a favor.
I paid a small fortune to have a phone, and because Apple says on their 
official accessibility website that their devices are 100 percent 
accessible and can be used with total satisfaction.

And this is not true.
The issues of accessibility have to have the same commitment that apple 
has with normal people.

I am being discriminated and I have to fight for my rights.
And that's what we should all do.
cheers.


Às 16:44 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:


Mario,

I understand you very well. Months ago, I was so mad. Months ago I was 
in the list so mad about the ssame issues that you are talking about. 
However, I tried android, and I learned that if IOs is no perfect, it 
is better than android regarding accessibility.


IOs is no working well, apple broke the accessibility that was working 
before, apple is affecting you because you are no able to use your 
device in the way how you should. Yes, all of these are true.


But the accessibility on android is no like the accessibility in IOs. 
My suggestion is that you get relax, and write an email with all the 
points how IOs is affecting you with this update. If they don’t heard 
you, they are no going to fix anything. Android has fixed some of the 
accessibility issues in the last 5 yeears?


No, and they have improved accessibility  very little in the last 
android updates.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Mário Gabriel

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:27 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.

Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call
the more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try
Android. I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple
there are some issues too. Please call Apple support not email,
and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel > wrote:

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most
of the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too
much difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the
only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and
activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my
friend has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also
happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the
keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines
and enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to
answer menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why
it happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I
haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever
since I started 

Re: New app for finding traffic lights

[Erjon B. Hatillari]

Thank you Marie,

As soon as i get the data i will let you know.

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 6:38:42 PM UTC+2, Marie Lyons wrote:
>
> Here inn Buffalo NYY I have made the mobility instructor at the Commission 
> for the blind aware of this app and given her the email address. She is 
> also working with the county advocate for the disabled.  I’m sure she will 
> share the info with him as well as the DOT.
>
> Marie Lyons
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:
>
> sup...@citylightsapp.com 
>
>
>

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Davy Cuppens]

Not true, I have a friend still working on ios8.3. But the rest you argue is 
true but he is not asking for any support for that ios system.

From: Mário Gabriel 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:






hi Pablo.

Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.




Às 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:

  Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you have a 
problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech support if you 
don’t have installed the last IOs release. So apple decline the tech support if 
you don’t have installed the last IOs release. Apple by default download the 
IOs and fills your phone memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of 
announcemnts saying that the IOs x  is ready to be install.

  So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.

   

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

   

  No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don’t 
plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

   

  Guys,

  I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.

  Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

   

   

  mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

   

  Reggie and Lex

   


  On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:

  

   

  How do you know that apple is looking to it?

  Apple always looks, but never solves ...

  Is that right?

   

  cheers.

   

  Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, 
if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:

  Hi Sieghard.

  I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.

   

  The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

   

  It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as 
well.

   

  Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

   

  She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.

   

  My phone does not do this at all.

   

  Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.

   

  Many people have this issue and many don't.

   

  Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
some and not others.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Don

   

   

   

  On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the 
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Breda
 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Man, why do you think I'm so mad  and furious.

I ask you the same question that you ask me.
How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple

Do you think I'm going to spend my life reporting issues and never 
seeing them resolved?

you like it?
cheers.


Às 16:57 de 13/12/2016, Mr. Ed escreveu:


Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I 
would like to ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or 
talked to Apple support on issues you are having. I would be willing 
to bet you are a whiner and complainer about a lot of other things but 
you don’t try and solve any of them. If you have contacted Apple 
support many times to report issues then I apologize to you. If you 
have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy with Apple then 
why don’t you get an Android phone?


So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So 
either email Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way 
what the issue is. Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to 
this group whining and complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.


Mr. Ed

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Mário Gabriel

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having 
in recent years.

Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel > wrote:

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As
most of the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't
have too much difficulty. However, if there are prompts
involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the
keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda
> wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but
my friend has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the
call is connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it
also happens if she goes in to the phone appp and
selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she
fines and enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to
answer menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know
why it happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I
haven't noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever
since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here,
what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to
bring up the keypad, but that has always been the
case at times, but most of the time the keypad is
there and I actually have to hide it if I want
access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of
*Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group


*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if
the issue 

Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

hi Pablo.

Yes apple forces us to do the update.
Sooner or later we have to do it.


Às 16:48 de 13/12/2016, Pablo Cesar Morales escreveu:


Yes, apple force you tu update. If you have an iPhone new, and you 
have a problem and you call apple, they are no going to give you tech 
support if you don’t have installed the last IOs release. So apple 
decline the tech support if you don’t have installed the last IOs 
release. Apple by default download the IOs and fills your phone 
memory. Apple make your life hard with hundreds of announcemnts saying 
that the IOs x  is ready to be install.


So, if it is no forcing, looks very similar.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:43 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and 
don’t plan too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pablo Cesar Morales

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they 
breaks accessibility points that were working before and stop working. 
I was so mad because apple force you to install their IOs version, 
breaking the accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months 
until we are able to use our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I 
was so mad. I tried android, and I changed my mind. Apple is better.


Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *regina alvarado

*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the 
more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I 
have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some 
issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic 
by helping not complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel > wrote:


How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way
to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend
has a 7 and she does have the problem.

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also
happens if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the
keypad dials the call manually as well.

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and
enables the keypad again its probably to late.

My phone does not do this at all.

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer
menu prompts etc.

Many people have this issue and many don't.

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it
happens for some and not others.

Thanks.

Don

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't
noticed any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started
using iOS 10, I am not using the current 10.2 beta so
unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring
up the keypad, but that has always been the case at times,
but most of the time the keypad is there and I actually
have to hide it if I want access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com

[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group 
 

RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Mario,

You write this email complaining about Apple not fixing things. I would like to 
ask you a question. How many times have you emailed or talked to Apple support 
on issues you are having. I would be willing to bet you are a whiner and 
complainer about a lot of other things but you don’t try and solve any of them. 
If you have contacted Apple support many times to report issues then I 
apologize to you. If you have not reported any issues and you are so unhappy 
with Apple then why don’t you get an Android phone?  

So by whining and complaining is never going to solve anything. So either email 
Apple support or call them and tell them in a nice way what the issue is. 
Otherwise what good does it do to send an email to this group whining and 
complaining. Nothing is perfect in this world.

 

Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

 

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group   

Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Hi Richard.
you wrote:
So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple has 
put into the iDevices because a few things do not work correctly?


of course not.
Just because it does not solve them as it should.

Do you like to stay without using your phone with the satisfaction that 
you should have like the normovisual people?

Do you like spending months and years  with the same issues on your phone?
Do you like to report issues to apple and then do not see them fixed?
Please tell me what you like more because I have nothing else to tell you.
cheers.


Às 16:33 de 13/12/2016, Richard Turner escreveu:


So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple 
has put into the iDevices because a few things don't work correctly?
If I took that approach to everything, I would still be using a manual 
typewriter and braille writer and only sending letters through the 
standard mail.
I continually give Apple feedback on things that need fixing or 
improving, but I also thank them for all the great stuff they have done.
You are welcome to your opinion, but don't act like if someone has a 
different opinion they are stupid or not doing their part.




“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Mário Gabriel > wrote:





don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.


Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:


mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the 
more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. 
I have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some 
issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list 
traffic by helping not complaining, please.



Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel > wrote:




How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of 
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much 
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to 
do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda > wrote:



Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has 
a 7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens 
if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the 
call manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it 
happens for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed 
any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I 
am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, 
what is exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of 
the time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I 
want access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

**

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
*On Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group 
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue 
where the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has 
been resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't 
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Yes, it is true.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Davy Cuppens
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

Guys 

 

Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the world 
for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems are lagging far 
far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a very slow rate. 

 

Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre but 
each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible for years 
now till last week their app became really 100% useless you cannot even login 
anymore.

The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could revert to 
that one! grin Regards 

Regards 

 

Davy 

 

From: Mário Gabriel   

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 



 

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.

 

Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

 

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Davy Cuppens]

Guys 

Keep please in mind that the IOS platform is the most accessible in the world 
for visually impaired people. Android and windows phone systems are lagging far 
far behind. They are moving up towards Apple but at a very slow rate. 

Indeed, you are right that we must keep on emphasising Apple to do morre but 
each platform could do more. My own private bank has been accessible for years 
now till last week their app became really 100% useless you cannot even login 
anymore.
The most accessible ios I have ever seen was ios7.1.2 I wish I could revert to 
that one! grin Regards 
Regards 

Davy 

From: Mário Gabriel 
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:






Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having in 
recent years.
Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.




Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

  Totally right, Mario.


  On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  wrote:






How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?




cheers.



Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

  Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, 
if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
keypad button and activate it.
  Amy



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.



It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as 
well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.



She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.



Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.



Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.



Don







On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

  Hi Don and others,



  Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the 
current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

  When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the 
other buttons.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Don Breda
  Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
  To: VIPhone google group mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:



  I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



  This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed 
it down yet so not getting my hopes up.



  Don



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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[alia robinson]

does he  know what it means to pick up a device off shelf and use it? I assume 
he doesn’t with that attitude. I remember paying $5,000 much of it out of my 
own pocket for a computer I could use in college! they could discontinue vo 
altogether. many people have asked them to. 

an example on my mac in email it was constantly routing me out of messages 
announcing ‘one row added’ or how ever many mails came in. I reported it, and 
guess what? it was fixed. there is now a box to turn it off. 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple has put 
> into the iDevices because a few things don't work correctly?
> If I took that approach to everything, I would still be using a manual 
> typewriter and braille writer and only sending letters through the standard 
> mail.
> I continually give Apple feedback on things that need fixing or improving, 
> but I also thank them for all the great stuff they have done.
> You are welcome to your opinion, but don't act like if someone has a 
> different opinion they are stupid or not doing their part.

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Re: got this volume thing pegged

[Kimber Gardner]

I have reported the volume problem both during the beta cycle and
afterward. I guess it can't hurt to write another email.

On 12/13/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> Have you tried rapidly turning down the volume with the side buttons when
> that happens to see if the next time it is not so loud?
> Also, I hope you have reported this to Apple. I've noticed that too and have
> reported it.
> Richard
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Kimber Gardner
> > wrote:
>
> Okay, so here is my volume problem which seems to be different from
> what others are describing.
>
> I have my ringer volume set to 25%. I also have turned my VO volume
> down to 25%. When I set an alarm and the alarm goes off, VO becomes
> super loud until I deactivate the alarm at which point VO returns to
> its normal volume.
>
> I have the same problem with VO becoming super loud when I make a phone
> call.
>
> Neither of these problems were present before iOS10.
>
>
>
> On 12/13/16, Richard Turner
> > wrote:
>
> I just set my rotor volume to 15 %. For someone across the room to hear it
> at that level I would have to turn the volume up to nearly maximum using
> the
> volume buttons on the side of the phone.
> Then, just about any ringer volume setting would be terribly loud.
> The idea is to find a reasonable balance between cranking up the volume
> using the volume buttons, and the settings on the rotor and in the sound
> settings.
> Without being in the same room, trying to describe all this in writing is
> going to be extremely difficult.
> Perhaps you could do a recording and put it on dropbox to give an example
> of
> what you are saying.
> Just my thoughts.
> Richard
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
>
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Gordon
> >
> wrote:
>
> Ok my rotor volume is set at 15 percent right now. I adjust the media
> volume
> to a level where the tone can be heard, but voice over is still loud enough
> for people on the other side of the room to hear and completely understand.
> But since the media volume is tied to alerts, I have to have it up a little
> to hear the tones. I use the rotor volume to turn voice over down so it's
> not so loud. I just don't know why the alert volume is tied to the media
> stream while voice over is running, but goes back to the ringer and alert
> stream when it's not.
>
>
> On 12/12/2016 10:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a
> problem. You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or did I
> misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in volume, but it's
> no big thing and it comes back. Compared to other bugs, such as those with
> email threads, HTML messages reading rows and columns, and the much
> discussed bug that Apple has admitted to with email, where the two finger
> flick up doesn't work like it used to, this just doesn't seem like a big
> deal. Can't you raise your rotor volume up to something more than 15%? If I
> put my volume down to 15%, I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was
> in a very quiet environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue
> is here? Sorry.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon
> >
> wrote:
>
> So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media
> volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as
> most other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent in
> settings. Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the
> triple
> press of the home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts volume is
> where the ringer volume was. I turned voice over back on and sent myself a
> text not changing any volumes and it was low again down with the media
> volume. So something with voice over is making this change. We need to all
> report this in hopes to get it fixed. You all can easily duplicate this on
> your own phones if you want.
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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Mario,

I understand you very well. Months ago, I was so mad. Months ago I was in the 
list so mad about the ssame issues that you are talking about. However, I tried 
android, and I learned that if IOs is no perfect, it is better than android 
regarding accessibility.

IOs is no working well, apple broke the accessibility that was working before, 
apple is affecting you because you are no able to use your device in the way 
how you should. Yes, all of these are true.

But the accessibility on android is no like the accessibility in IOs. My 
suggestion is that you get relax, and write an email with all the points how 
IOs is affecting you with this update. If they don’t heard you, they are no 
going to fix anything. Android has fixed some of the accessibility issues in 
the last 5 yeears?

No, and they have improved accessibility  very little in the last android 
updates.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mário Gabriel
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 




don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.

 

Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:

 

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

 

Reggie and Lex 

 


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group   

Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Larry Lumpkin]

No one is forcing you to install an update.  I have not done so and don’t plan 
too until the keypad issue is fixed for iphone 7.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.

Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

 

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

 

Reggie and Lex

 


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group   

Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[alia robinson]

no need to be rude, you don’t like apple, fine move on to something you do 
like. everyone is entitled to their opinions. I for one am happy with apple.
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> don't   be fullish.
> What do you think I've been doing?
> What do you think we've all done?
> Do you think we were rewarded for it?
> And you, have done your part?
> come on girl, open your eyes.

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Re: New app for finding traffic lights

[Marie Lyons]

Here inn Buffalo NYY I have made the mobility instructor at the Commission for 
the blind aware of this app and given her the email address. She is also 
working with the county advocate for the disabled.  I’m sure she will share the 
info with him as well as the DOT.

Marie Lyons
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> supp...@citylightsapp.com 

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RE: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

Guys,

I was like all of you. So mad with apple, with the fact that they breaks 
accessibility points that were working before and stop working. I was so mad 
because apple force you to install their IOs version, breaking the 
accessibility that we need, and we need to wait months until we are able to use 
our phone like we were doing before. Yes, I was so mad. I tried android, and I 
changed my mind. Apple is better.

Android is several towns behind than IOs regarding accessibility.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

 

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.

 

Reggie and Lex

 


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  > wrote:



 

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

 

cheers.

 

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  > wrote:

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.

 

The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.

 

It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.

 

Once the call connects the keypad disappears.

 

She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.

 

My phone does not do this at all.

 

Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.

 

Many people have this issue and many don't.

 

Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Don and others,

 

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group   

Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

 

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?

 

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.

 

Don

 

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Re: got this volume thing pegged

[regina alvarado]

Gordon, please could you tell me again which volume belongs to which 
button/rotor setting? I would like to find settings where VO is lower, 
reminders and alerts are loud and ringer is loud. I have ringer to 100 percent, 
but VO seems to move louder with loudness of those reminders and alerts. Which 
volume does the rotor run? Thanks much for the help.
On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:48 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:


I just set my rotor volume to 15 %. For someone across the room to hear it at 
that level I would have to turn the volume up to nearly maximum using the 
volume buttons on the side of the phone.
Then, just about any ringer volume setting would be terribly loud.
The idea is to find a reasonable balance between cranking up the volume using 
the volume buttons, and the settings on the rotor and in the sound settings.
Without being in the same room, trying to describe all this in writing is going 
to be extremely difficult.
Perhaps you could do a recording and put it on dropbox to give an example of 
what you are saying.
Just my thoughts.
Richard


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On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Gordon  wrote:

> Ok my rotor volume is set at 15 percent right now. I adjust the media volume 
> to a level where the tone can be heard, but voice over is still loud enough 
> for people on the other side of the room to hear and completely understand. 
> But since the media  volume is tied to alerts, I have to have it up a little 
> to hear the tones. I use the rotor volume to turn voice over down so it's not 
> so loud. I just don't know why the alert volume is tied to the media stream 
> while voice over is running, but goes back to the ringer and alert stream 
> when it's not.
> 
> 
>> On 12/12/2016 10:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi Gordon,
>> I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a 
>> problem. You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or did I 
>> misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in volume, but it's 
>> no big thing and it comes back. Compared to other bugs, such as those with 
>> email threads, HTML messages reading rows and columns, and the much 
>> discussed bug that Apple has admitted to with email, where the two finger 
>> flick up doesn't work like it used to, this just doesn't seem like a big 
>> deal. Can't you raise your rotor volume up to something more than 15%? If I 
>> put my volume down to 15%, I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was 
>> in a very quiet environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue 
>> is here? Sorry.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media 
>>> volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as 
>>> most other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent in 
>>> settings. Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the 
>>> triple press of the home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts volume 
>>> is where the ringer volume was. I turned voice over back on and sent myself 
>>> a text not changing any volumes and it was low again down with the media 
>>> volume. So something with voice over is making this change. We need to all 
>>> report this in hopes to get it fixed. You all can easily duplicate this on 
>>> your own phones if you want.
>>> 
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Richard Turner]

So, apparently Mario, you discount all the great accessibility Apple has put 
into the iDevices because a few things don't work correctly?
If I took that approach to everything, I would still be using a manual 
typewriter and braille writer and only sending letters through the standard 
mail.
I continually give Apple feedback on things that need fixing or improving, but 
I also thank them for all the great stuff they have done.
You are welcome to your opinion, but don't act like if someone has a different 
opinion they are stupid or not doing their part.



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On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Mário Gabriel 
> wrote:




don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.

Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel 
> wrote:





How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda 
> wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and she 
does have the problem.


The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes in 
to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.


Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
keypad again its probably to late.


My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts etc.


Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
and not others.


Thanks.


Don



On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any difference 
on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using the current 
10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the issue?
When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
buttons.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Breda
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
To: VIPhone google group 

Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:


I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the keypad 
disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?



This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it down 
yet so not getting my hopes up.



Don


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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

don't   be fullish.
What do you think I've been doing?
What do you think we've all done?
Do you think we were rewarded for it?
And you, have done your part?
come on girl, open your eyes.
cheers.


Às 16:03 de 13/12/2016, regina alvarado escreveu:


mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the 
more it will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I 
have heard it is pretty good, though as with Apple there are some 
issues too. Please call Apple support not email, and help list traffic 
by helping not complaining, please.



Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel > wrote:




How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda > wrote:



Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 
7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if 
she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am 
not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what 
is exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

**

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*On Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group 
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been 
resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't 
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[regina alvarado]

Amy, if anywhere in phone can you touch keypad and have it come up after 
dialing? If in keypad and making a call does it still disappear? What about 
dialing from a link? I am contacting support also as I have the loud VO on 
calls too, but I have not made a call with prompts yet, thus the questioning. 
Thanks.
On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Amy Ruell  wrote:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard.
> 
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
> 
> 
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> 
> 
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
> 
> 
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> 
> 
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
> 
> 
> My phone does not do this at all.
> 
> 
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
> 
> 
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> 
> 
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Don and others,
>>  
>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
>> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
>> issue?
>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
>> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
>> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
>> buttons.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Don Breda
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone google group 
>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>  
>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>>  
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[regina alvarado]

mario, call support as Pete suggested. The more people who call the more it 
will be fixed. If not an option for you, please try Android. I have heard it is 
pretty good, though as with Apple there are some issues too. Please call Apple 
support not email, and help list traffic by helping not complaining, please.


Reggie and Lex


On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:



How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?

cheers.

Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad 
> button and activate it.
> Amy
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sieghard.
>> 
>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
>> she does have the problem.
>> 
>> 
>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>> 
>> 
>> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
>> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
>> 
>> 
>> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>> 
>> 
>> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
>> keypad again its probably to late.
>> 
>> 
>> My phone does not do this at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
>> etc.
>> 
>> 
>> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>> 
>> 
>> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
>> some and not others.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Don and others,
>>>  
>>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
>>> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
>>> issue?
>>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
>>> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
>>> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
>>> buttons.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Don Breda
>>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>>> To: VIPhone google group 
>>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>>  
>>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
>>>  
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

Thanks friend
Someone had to say it.
It's time to revolt against the irresponsibility Apple has been having 
in recent years.

Patience also runs out.
And mine is long gone.
note:
I do not respond to fan boys' replies.

It's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
cheers.


Às 13:40 de 13/12/2016, Devin Prater escreveu:

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel > wrote:




How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of
the numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much
difficulty. However, if there are prompts involved, the only way
to do this is to swipe to the keypad button and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda > wrote:


Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend
has a 7 and she does have the problem.


The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is
connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens
if she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials
the call manually as well.


Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and
enables the keypad again its probably to late.


My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer
menu prompts etc.


Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it
happens for some and not others.


Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed
any difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10,
I am not using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem
here, what is exactly the issue?

When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of
the time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if
I want access to any of the other buttons.

Regards,

Sieghard

**

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group 

*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue
where the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't
has been resolved?

This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.

Don

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Re: got this volume thing pegged

[Richard Turner]

Have you tried rapidly turning down the volume with the side buttons when that 
happens to see if the next time it is not so loud?
Also, I hope you have reported this to Apple. I've noticed that too and have 
reported it.
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:21 AM, Kimber Gardner 
> wrote:

Okay, so here is my volume problem which seems to be different from
what others are describing.

I have my ringer volume set to 25%. I also have turned my VO volume
down to 25%. When I set an alarm and the alarm goes off, VO becomes
super loud until I deactivate the alarm at which point VO returns to
its normal volume.

I have the same problem with VO becoming super loud when I make a phone call.

Neither of these problems were present before iOS10.



On 12/13/16, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

I just set my rotor volume to 15 %. For someone across the room to hear it
at that level I would have to turn the volume up to nearly maximum using the
volume buttons on the side of the phone.
Then, just about any ringer volume setting would be terribly loud.
The idea is to find a reasonable balance between cranking up the volume
using the volume buttons, and the settings on the rotor and in the sound
settings.
Without being in the same room, trying to describe all this in writing is
going to be extremely difficult.
Perhaps you could do a recording and put it on dropbox to give an example of
what you are saying.
Just my thoughts.
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Gordon
>
 wrote:

Ok my rotor volume is set at 15 percent right now. I adjust the media volume
to a level where the tone can be heard, but voice over is still loud enough
for people on the other side of the room to hear and completely understand.
But since the media volume is tied to alerts, I have to have it up a little
to hear the tones. I use the rotor volume to turn voice over down so it's
not so loud. I just don't know why the alert volume is tied to the media
stream while voice over is running, but goes back to the ringer and alert
stream when it's not.


On 12/12/2016 10:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Gordon,
I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a
problem. You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or did I
misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in volume, but it's
no big thing and it comes back. Compared to other bugs, such as those with
email threads, HTML messages reading rows and columns, and the much
discussed bug that Apple has admitted to with email, where the two finger
flick up doesn't work like it used to, this just doesn't seem like a big
deal. Can't you raise your rotor volume up to something more than 15%? If I
put my volume down to 15%, I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was
in a very quiet environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue
is here? Sorry.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon
>
 wrote:

So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media
volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as
most other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent in
settings. Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the triple
press of the home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts volume is
where the ringer volume was. I turned voice over back on and sent myself a
text not changing any volumes and it was low again down with the media
volume. So something with voice over is making this change. We need to all
report this in hopes to get it fixed. You all can easily duplicate this on
your own phones if you want.

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RE: got this volume thing pegged

[Pablo Cesar Morales]

I have the same problem. We have a newborn at home, and this alarm is waking 
him up!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: got this volume thing pegged

Okay, so here is my volume problem which seems to be different from what others 
are describing.

I have my ringer volume set to 25%. I also have turned my VO volume down to 
25%. When I set an alarm and the alarm goes off, VO becomes super loud until I 
deactivate the alarm at which point VO returns to its normal volume.

I have the same problem with VO becoming super loud when I make a phone call.

Neither of these problems were present before iOS10.



On 12/13/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> I just set my rotor volume to 15 %. For someone across the room to 
> hear it at that level I would have to turn the volume up to nearly 
> maximum using the volume buttons on the side of the phone.
> Then, just about any ringer volume setting would be terribly loud.
> The idea is to find a reasonable balance between cranking up the 
> volume using the volume buttons, and the settings on the rotor and in 
> the sound settings.
> Without being in the same room, trying to describe all this in writing 
> is going to be extremely difficult.
> Perhaps you could do a recording and put it on dropbox to give an 
> example of what you are saying.
> Just my thoughts.
> Richard
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
>
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Gordon
> > wrote:
>
> Ok my rotor volume is set at 15 percent right now. I adjust the media 
> volume to a level where the tone can be heard, but voice over is still 
> loud enough for people on the other side of the room to hear and completely 
> understand.
> But since the media volume is tied to alerts, I have to have it up a 
> little to hear the tones. I use the rotor volume to turn voice over 
> down so it's not so loud. I just don't know why the alert volume is 
> tied to the media stream while voice over is running, but goes back to 
> the ringer and alert stream when it's not.
>
>
> On 12/12/2016 10:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a 
> problem. You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or 
> did I misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in 
> volume, but it's no big thing and it comes back. Compared to other 
> bugs, such as those with email threads, HTML messages reading rows and 
> columns, and the much discussed bug that Apple has admitted to with 
> email, where the two finger flick up doesn't work like it used to, 
> this just doesn't seem like a big deal. Can't you raise your rotor 
> volume up to something more than 15%? If I put my volume down to 15%, 
> I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was in a very quiet 
> environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue is here? Sorry.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon
> > wrote:
>
> So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the 
> media volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer 
> volume as most other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 
> 80 percent in settings. Then I went back to home and turned voice over 
> off with the triple press of the home button. I sent myself a text and 
> the alerts volume is where the ringer volume was. I turned voice over 
> back on and sent myself a text not changing any volumes and it was low 
> again down with the media volume. So something with voice over is 
> making this change. We need to all report this in hopes to get it 
> fixed. You all can easily duplicate this on your own phones if you want.
>
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Pete Nalda]

I have a suggestion to make, and for those who feel that there are issues not 
being fixed. My suggestion is to call instead of emailing, then you get to talk 
to somebody in person about the issues that you're having.  Might do some good. 
This is what I did for the large text issue that got fixed with the newest 
update. Be nice when you call, as it can go a long way. 

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> On Dec 13, 2016, at 7:06 AM, Mário Gabriel  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
> 
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
> 
> Is that right?
> 
> cheers.
> 
> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers 
>> I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if 
>> there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the 
>> keypad button and activate it.
>> Amy
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard.
>>> 
>>> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
>>> she does have the problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
>>> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
>>> keypad again its probably to late.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My phone does not do this at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
>>> etc.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
>>> some and not others.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Don and others,
  
 Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
 difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
 the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
 issue?
 When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, 
 but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the 
 keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of 
 the other buttons.
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Don Breda
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
 To: VIPhone google group 
 Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
  
 I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
 keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
 
  
 
 This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
 down yet so not getting my hopes up.
 
  
 
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Re: how to get apps from phone to iPad and then have them sync

[Kimber Gardner]

I think you have to go to the app store on your new device and
download whatever apps you want. I don't know another way to do it.

On 12/12/16, regina alvarado  wrote:
> Basic questions. I am getting an iPad Air II. It is 32 gigs. It will be
> basically blank. How do I get apps synced to it from the iPhone without
> doing it by hand? I had a 16 gig iPad that I had somehow gotten only to
> display apps for reading and videos and a few other things that were not
> games. Now I will have a 32 gig and want to have the same things on each
> device. I forgot what I did. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. I know this
> is basic, but just cannot remember what I did before.
>
>
>
> Reggie and Lex
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Re: got this volume thing pegged

[Kimber Gardner]

Okay, so here is my volume problem which seems to be different from
what others are describing.

I have my ringer volume set to 25%. I also have turned my VO volume
down to 25%. When I set an alarm and the alarm goes off, VO becomes
super loud until I deactivate the alarm at which point VO returns to
its normal volume.

I have the same problem with VO becoming super loud when I make a phone call.

Neither of these problems were present before iOS10.



On 12/13/16, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> I just set my rotor volume to 15 %. For someone across the room to hear it
> at that level I would have to turn the volume up to nearly maximum using the
> volume buttons on the side of the phone.
> Then, just about any ringer volume setting would be terribly loud.
> The idea is to find a reasonable balance between cranking up the volume
> using the volume buttons, and the settings on the rotor and in the sound
> settings.
> Without being in the same room, trying to describe all this in writing is
> going to be extremely difficult.
> Perhaps you could do a recording and put it on dropbox to give an example of
> what you are saying.
> Just my thoughts.
> Richard
>
>
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
>
>
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:55 PM, Gordon
> > wrote:
>
> Ok my rotor volume is set at 15 percent right now. I adjust the media volume
> to a level where the tone can be heard, but voice over is still loud enough
> for people on the other side of the room to hear and completely understand.
> But since the media volume is tied to alerts, I have to have it up a little
> to hear the tones. I use the rotor volume to turn voice over down so it's
> not so loud. I just don't know why the alert volume is tied to the media
> stream while voice over is running, but goes back to the ringer and alert
> stream when it's not.
>
>
> On 12/12/2016 10:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> I would be happy to report this, except I'm not experiencing it as a
> problem. You said you had a volume set to 15%. That's awfully low. Or did I
> misunderstand? I admit that there is a slight decrease in volume, but it's
> no big thing and it comes back. Compared to other bugs, such as those with
> email threads, HTML messages reading rows and columns, and the much
> discussed bug that Apple has admitted to with email, where the two finger
> flick up doesn't work like it used to, this just doesn't seem like a big
> deal. Can't you raise your rotor volume up to something more than 15%? If I
> put my volume down to 15%, I'm not sure I could really hear it unless I was
> in a very quiet environment. Can you help me understand what the real issue
> is here? Sorry.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gordon
> > wrote:
>
> So whenever voice over is running the alerts volume is tied to the media
> volume. when voice over is not running it's tied to the ringer volume as
> most other phones would be. I set my ring tone volume up to 80 percent in
> settings. Then I went back to home and turned voice over off with the triple
> press of the home button. I sent myself a text and the alerts volume is
> where the ringer volume was. I turned voice over back on and sent myself a
> text not changing any volumes and it was low again down with the media
> volume. So something with voice over is making this change. We need to all
> report this in hopes to get it fixed. You all can easily duplicate this on
> your own phones if you want.
>
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Re: Super Mario Run！

[Devin Prater]

I very much doubt it. These mainstream games are rarely accessible, and
this one is very visual.

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> I know that this game has not released yet.
> but, anyone have been doing a beta testing/ tester of this game.
> and does it easy  for us to play through?
>
> thanks!
>
>
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Devin Prater]

Totally right, Mario.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:06 AM Mário Gabriel  wrote:

>
>
>
> How do you know that apple is looking to it?
>
> Apple always looks, but never solves ...
>
> Is that right?
>
>
> cheers.
>
> Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
>
> Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the
> numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty.
> However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe
> to the keypad button and activate it.
> Amy
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
>
> Hi Sieghard.
>
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and
> she does have the problem.
>
>
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
>
>
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she
> goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as
> well.
>
>
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
>
>
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the
> keypad again its probably to late.
>
>
> My phone does not do this at all.
>
>
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts
> etc.
>
>
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
>
>
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for
> some and not others.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>
> Hi Don and others,
>
>
>
> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any
> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using
> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the
> issue?
>
> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad,
> but that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad
> is there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the
> other buttons.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Don Breda
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
> *To:* VIPhone google group 
> 
> *Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>
>
>
> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the
> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>
>
>
> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it
> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
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Keyboard Buddy issue resolved

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Siegharrd.and list

Thank you for your your tthoughts regarding the bluetooth keyboard.  I really 
appreciate it. I couldn't find a manual online anywhere. I even went to the 
Boxwave site. But no luck. Plus the site was slow and a mess.
I did find out that there is a very small button on the very top left of the 
keyboard and this is the paring button.
Luckily i didn't have to use a paper clip or anything like that.   I just had 
to likely press it.

This keyboard seems pretty sensitive. So it will definitely take some getting 
used to. Now i just hope to learn the keyboard commands for this thing. I hope 
this happens soon.

Thank you.

Terri


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On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 7:44 PM -0600, "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> wrote:

Terri,

I can't help you with the on/off question, I would just Google  it, chances are 
you'll find a user manual online.

As for charging it, if it charges via a Mini or Micro USB cable you can plug it 
into anything you have that can take a USB cable, it makes no difference if you 
use the wall adapter of your iPhone, iPad or of some third party product that 
came with one.

Something like that normally would probably charge in a couple of hours, but 
even charging it for half an hour should get you half a charge since the speed 
with which batteries charge decreases when they get fuller, e.g. it may take 
half an hour to charge them to half full, but another hour and a half to charge 
the second half.

You phone won't see the keyboard until you put it in pairing mode. I can't tell 
you how that is done with this keyboard, again this would be in the user 
manual. Chances are there could be a small hole somewhere where you have to 
press a resessed button with the tip of a pen or paper clip.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri Stimmel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Made a mistake on the type of Bluetooth keyboard I need help with

Hello everybody,

I want to apologize for my message I wrote to the list earlier. I asked for 
help with a Bluetooth keyboard, and I gave the wrong Bluetooth keyboard 
information. I realized that it was still showing my older Bluetooth keyboard. 
Which was a Logitech.
Anyway, my friend gave me a box wave buddy, Bluetooth keyboard. I don't know if 
there are different models of these, or not.
However, my phone isn't even showing it in the list of options. My friend 
thought that the keyboard needed to be charged, because she had not used it in 
quite a while. He has a different iPhone now.

Anyway, I tried to charge it earlier. But I didn't let it charge for very long, 
because I needed my phone. Can I use my block from my iPad mini to plug in the 
USB cable, to charge this Bluetooth keyboard? Or do I need to use just a normal 
charging block, like one that might have come with my iPhone 5S? Also, how do I 
even know if this Bluetooth keyboard is on?
There is a very small switch on the bottom right side, if it is on your phone 
and the phone is facing you. You can move it up or down, but you have to use a 
fingernail to do so. Right now, but I have it in the up position.

About how long might it take for this keyboard to charge? Also, once it is 
charged, and my phone recognizes it, how do I pair it with my phone?

I know nothing about this keyboard. Although I have wanted one for a long time 
now. I like how it has to slide out keyboard. And for my last question.
Can I find a layout of the keyboard, somewhere? Or, is there a way for me to 
learn the Bluetooth keyboard commands?
I haven't ever done this before, even when I had my other keyboard. I mainly 
used it to write texts, or emails. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Mário Gabriel]

How do you know that apple is looking to it?

Apple always looks, but never solves ...

Is that right?


cheers.


Às 11:43 de 13/12/2016, Amy Ruell escreveu:
Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the 
numbers I call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. 
However, if there are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to 
swipe to the keypad button and activate it.

Amy


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda > wrote:



Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 
7 and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if 
she goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call 
manually as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and 
enables the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens 
for some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

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*On Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group 
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where 
the keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been 
resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't 
nailed it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Amy Ruell]

Hello all, I see the behavior on my iPhone 7 as well. As most of the numbers I 
call are in my contacts, I don't have too much difficulty. However, if there 
are prompts involved, the only way to do this is to swipe to the keypad button 
and activate it.
Amy


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Don Breda  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard.
> 
> I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 and 
> she does have the problem.
> 
> 
> The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.
> 
> 
> It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she goes 
> in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually as well.
> 
> 
> Once the call connects the keypad disappears.
> 
> 
> She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables the 
> keypad again its probably to late.
> 
> 
> My phone does not do this at all.
> 
> 
> Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu prompts 
> etc.
> 
> 
> Many people have this issue and many don't.
> 
> 
> Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for some 
> and not others.
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Don and others,
>>  
>> Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
>> difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not using 
>> the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is exactly the 
>> issue?
>> When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the keypad, but 
>> that has always been the case at times, but most of the time the keypad is 
>> there and I actually have to hide it if I want access to any of the other 
>> buttons.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Don Breda
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone google group 
>> Subject: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:
>>  
>> I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
>> keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed it 
>> down yet so not getting my hopes up.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>>  
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Re: IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

[Don Breda]

Hi Sieghard.

I don't have the problem at all on my iPhone 6 s but my friend has a 7 
and she does have the problem.



The problem is that the keypad disappears once the call is connected.


It happens if she uses Siri to make the call and it also happens if she 
goes in to the phone appp and selects the keypad dials the call manually 
as well.



Once the call connects the keypad disappears.


She is not a good iPhoneuser yet and by the time she fines and enables 
the keypad again its probably to late.



My phone does not do this at all.


Its frustrating when you need to tenter touch tones to answer menu 
prompts etc.



Many people have this issue and many don't.


Apple is looking in to it but I don't think they know why it happens for 
some and not others.



Thanks.


Don




On 12-Dec-16 3:52 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


Hi Don and others,

Is this something a lot of people experience? I haven't noticed any 
difference on my 6S Plus ever since I started using iOS 10, I am not 
using the current 10.2 beta so unless it's a problem here, what is 
exactly the issue?


When I make or receive a call I may have to tap to bring up the 
keypad, but that has always been the case at times, but most of the 
time the keypad is there and I actually have to hide it if I want 
access to any of the other buttons.


Regards,

Sieghard

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*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Don Breda

*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 12:49 PM
*To:* VIPhone google group 
*Subject:* IOS 10.2 and phone keypad issues:

I supposeits to soon to tell but I am wondering if the issue where the 
keypad disappears on a phone call when it shouldn't has been resolved?


This is an issue appple is aware of but I suspect they haven't nailed 
it down yet so not getting my hopes up.


Don

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Re: Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of help!

[billy inglis]

hi, followed this, but no luck pairing either my apple bluetooth 
keyboard or the Microsoft Universal bluetooth keyboard.

This pairing button you mentioned I never came across such a button, Billy

On 12/12/2016 22:28, Kliphton Miller wrote:

go to settings, blu tooth and other devices, push the pairing button and then 
click the track pad on the siri remote, then it will pair, or maybe give you a 
4 digit pin to type in, either way, it will work.

On Dec 12, 2016, at 4:06 PM, billy inglis  wrote:

hi Chris, all setup now with my apple tv.
Can you explain how i set up an external bluetooth keyboard to use with the 
apple tv?, Billy

On 02/11/2016 19:12, christopher hallsworth wrote:

Hi

Slight correction, press the menu button three times to enable VoiceOver for first 
time set up. You can also set it this way as an accessibility shortcut in 
settings>general>accessibility.



On 2 Nov 2016, at 14:42, Daniel L. Gervais  
wrote:

Hi Terri,

I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same one 
and I love it.

As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, you 
have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons.  From the top right going down, you 
have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down rocker.

To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Play/Pause button three times and after a 
few tries, VoiceOver should begin speaking.

When inputting text, the keyboard is layed out a little diffrently with the 
first row being the letters A to Z and the next row below being the numbers and 
punctuation symbols.  Below that row is buttons to toggle between lowercase and 
uppercase letters, but if you press the Play/Pause button, this will do the 
same.

You can also use Siri to dictate anything in an edit field, this also includes 
passwords.  Simply press and hold the Siri button and dictate.  When you're 
done, let go of the button and your text will be inputted.

While on the Home screen, you can even ask Siri, by pressing and holding while 
you talk and letting go when your done.

You can always check on www.applevis.com for How To's on using the Apple TV.  I 
believe that David Woodbridge has quite a few podcasts on doing just about 
anything on the Apple TV.

Hope this helps!


From:   Terri Stimmel 
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Date:   2016/11/02 10:12 AM
Subject:Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of help!

Hello everyone,


Well, I broke down and purchased my new Apple tv last night. I got the
32 gig model. I didn't mess with it last night though, because I just
wasn't feeling the best.


It's all open, and all hooked up now. It is a little chunkier, and
bigger. But I think I like that. I do like the remote much better,
because it too seems thicker, and maybe not as easy to lose. I lost one
once. LOL!


Now here is where I need some help please.

When I go to the input where the Apple tv is, nothing seems to happen.
On my older model, it asked about Voiceover.


So first of all, can someone kindly explain the layout of the buttons to
me, and what they are?

This would really be very helpful. I found the area for the gestures.


Now how can I get voiceover on?

Will I need sighted assistence for this?

I pushed a couple of buttons just to see what would happen. I don't know
if anything happened on the screen. But I heard some cute little noises.
LOL!

I decided to quit messing with it though, because I didn't want to mess
anything up.


Any help would be very much appreciated. Now I am kind of getting
excited about this thing. Although, I'm not really looking forward to
adding on all the apps I may want, or remembering passwords.


Thank you,


Terri

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