Re: Navigation App Recommendation

2024-02-11 Thread Eric Caron

Try Voice Vista and set up markers and beacons.

Eric 


> On Feb 11, 2024, at 10:31 AM, MMMAT  wrote:
> 
> I have a friend that lives in a very rural area.  His problem is that it is 
> quite a long walk from his trailer home to the mailbox and there are no paved 
> roads where he is walking. The distance from his home to the mailbox is 
> approximately 200 yards of unpaved roads.
>  
> Sometimes, he gets disoriented and is looking for an iPhone App that he can 
> use to find the way to and from his home to the mailbox and back.  What are 
> your recommendations based on your experiences using a navigation app for 
> these purposes.  Something easy to set up and use is a priority.
>  
> Regards,
> Mario 
>  
>  
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Re: iPhone, and Bluetooth issues

2023-06-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

I’ve noticed this issue for some time and thought it was just me.  I’ve 
tried all the same steps turning off the phone, turning off bluetooth, emptying 
the app switcher. 
I tried it with different devices connected and disconnected to the 
phone.  I mostly notice the problem when on phone calls.  I miss sections of 
speech.  I also have hearing aids and they are loosing the connection in 
different ears at different times.  Same issues with aftershocks and Bose 
glasses.

I think it also happens when phone is in speaker mode but it is less 
noticeable.  I could turn off bluetooth for calls but I have a medical device 
connected so prefer not to do that. 
 Anyone come up with a solution?
I’m running a iPhone 10S with 16.5.1. 

Eric Caron 



> On May 24, 2023, at 8:15 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> I have a similar problem.  What works for me is to turn blue tooth off and on 
> again.  That clears it up.  
> 
>> On May 23, 2023, at 6:02 PM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t have any problem with VoiceOver, and it only seems to occur when I 
>> am connected to Bluetooth for a speaker or for AirPods. I can cast some 
>> thing to my TV without there being an issue, but it’s weird whenever it’s 
>> connected to Bluetooth for audio. Only, it seems to be an issue. It was 
>> happening before the release of iOS 16.5, so I don’t think it’s a version 
>> issue at least not with the latest version anyway. I’ve never had any issue 
>> with voice over at all, so I can’t say there’s anything there either. 
>> 
>> Loreal
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2023, at 7:06 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> 
>>> If you are running 16.5, I am having the same issue on my phone. And, when 
>>> I don’t have airPods in, my VoiceOver gets snappy and it cracks through my 
>>> speakers. I thought it was my phone.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> Jennie Facer
>>> 
>>>> On May 23, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Loreal Lavigna  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried all of the above, and have still not seen any resolution.
>>>> 
>>>> Loreal
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 23, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Barbara Stahl  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have you tried turning the bluetooth off and then back on again?  Or try 
>>>>> turning off the phone and then turning it back on again.  Those things 
>>>>> can sometimes fix weird issues that pop up.  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 23, 2023, at 11:31 AM, Loreal Lavigna  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just curious. I’ve noticed very recently I’m having an issue with any 
>>>>>> Bluetooth speakers/earbuds/AirPods. Makes no difference what is 
>>>>>> connected to my phone, but after a bit of time, there is a sound like 
>>>>>> breaking up in the speaker or in the AirPods. I would compare it to if 
>>>>>> you were driving, and you’re going through a dead zone where you have 
>>>>>> sound, then you don’t, then it kind of bounces between having it and not 
>>>>>> having it, but it’s very choppy. I’ve tried the same thing on my iPad 
>>>>>> and everything works as it should. But I cannot figure out what I might 
>>>>>> be having an issue with. I’ve even gone so far as to reset all settings, 
>>>>>> but ultimately not reset my device to factory defaults and have to 
>>>>>> reinstall and re-sync data. I’m trying to avoid that at all costs if it 
>>>>>> all possible. Like I said, the issue does not appear to be on my iPad, 
>>>>>> but does appear instead to be on my iPhone. I am using an iPhone 13 
>>>>>> promax, 256 GB,  And on my iPad where I don’t have any issues it is an 
>>>>>> iPad mini latest generation also running 16.41A. I am actually in the 
>>>>>> process of upgrading to 16.5 to see if perhaps this might rectify the 
>>>>>> issue. I would be interested to find out if anyone else has run into 
>>>>>> this issue and if so, what may have been done to correct it short of if 
>>>>>> it all possible, resetting the device to factory defaults and erasing 
>>>>>> all data and contacts. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Loreal
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: seeking recommendations for accessible in-home mesh network system

2021-01-10 Thread Eric Caron
Yes,

I get software updates on a regular basis. 

I’ve had the Eero system for about 3 months and love it. 
 But, back to the original poster.  I think you would be better off with a 
separate modem and router.  I suspect that if your existing modem is a router 
and modem in one then it is overdue for replacement   Separate units give you 
more flexibility going forward. 

Another note, I was using a time capsule for my router and though old it was 
doing pretty well.  I have however added a lot of wifi devices and it was 
starting to fail.  The new Eero Mesh system was easy to set up and when working 
is rock solid.  Everything works more responsibly and more reliably and covers 
a much larger space.  The three unit system is the one I purchased.  It is 
working well with a two year old Netgear modem.

Eric Caron 


> On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Agent086b  <mailto:agent0...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> do they update there software on a regular basis?
> Max.
> 
>> On 8 Jan 2021, at 11:12 pm, Brian Moore > <mailto:bmo...@screenreview.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.  I too have a Eero mesh system and am pretty happy with it.  The app has 
>> issues when you start playing with advanced settings and want to do things 
>> like look at your traffic reports, set up routing rules and add and remove 
>> devices from profiles.  However, if you are happy with a basic setup, the 
>> actual equipment works very well and my wifi is rock solid and I never have 
>> to touch it. it just keeps working.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
>> follow me on twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123 <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123>
>> On 2021-01-08 6:36 a.m., Vicki W. wrote:
>>> Do you need Bluetooth running all of the time to keep the router working or 
>>> only when you want to access the settings for some reason?
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: 'Stur It Up Productions' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 7:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: seeking recommendations for accessible in-home mesh network 
>>> system
>>> 
>>> I will echo this!  I have been using Eero products for almost 2 years now, 
>>> and it is the most accessible system I have ever used.  No scanning of 
>>> codes, just plug and play, give bluetooth permission, and you ready to go.
>>> My groups
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>>> 
>>>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Chris Chaffin >>> <mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I just updated to the Eero 6 mesh system. The app on my phone is totally 
>>>> accessible, and actually I used the app to totally set the system up 
>>>> without sighted assistance.
>>>> Here is a link on Amazon of the system I got.
>>>> 
>>>> Introducing Amazon eero 6... 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085WSCTS4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share 
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085WSCTS4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share>
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 7, 2021, at 4:50 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
>>>>>  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have discovered the inadequacy of our Wi-Fi network at home. We have 
>>>>> excellent reception in the room where the modem and router are located, 
>>>>> but abysmal reception elsewhere. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will need to r

Needed, an app to tell you quickly how fast you are walking

2020-05-27 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Listers,

I need to know if there is an app that tracks your walking speed and 
can tell you how fast you are walking and adjust as you speed up and slow down. 
 It needs to work more quickly than say  Blind square.  

I’m told an app called motion X did this but is no longer available. 

Tips and ideas are greatly appreciated.

Eric Caron 

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Re: from BlindSquare: COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by BlindSquare and NaviLens.

2020-05-13 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Richard,

Is Blind Squaire Event basically the same app as Blind Square just free 
until November?  A trial for those that don’t have the app? 

I was wondering if it was different as I have not mastered using it for 
following routes for exploration or for hiking purposes.

Also wondering if it is integrating Navilens or they are still separate apps.

Eric Caron 


> On May 13, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> COVID-19 Keeping us indoors, with unique opportunities supported by 
> BlindSquare and NaviLens.
> by Caleigh Nevin 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blindsquare.com%2Fauthor%2Fcaleighnevin%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679251307=34GXju6UIDMxyQMMPUeBbod22JGdsnMYheq4fDoJLbI%3D=0>
> 
> 
> May 21st is Global Accessibility Awareness Day, focusing on digital access 
> and inclusion for the more than one billion people with disabilities. 
> 
> Across our globe, the impact of the pandemic is found. Some impacts are led 
> by common sense (avoid exposures, battle all exposures with “be clean” 
> responses), and some by country/local laws restricting travel entirely or by 
> degree.
> 
> BlindSquare 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblindsquare.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679251307=e5JS397x0GsrmzyGQdF8em4zYNKQrfvN%2Foz4PwxSTdk%3D=0>
>  and NaviLens 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.navilens.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679261303=OEDrwwsqRweG9aMPj%2BMlGO3tGmIs62HRjSlrVkXRXIA%3D=0>
>  join to serve on the frontline.
> 
> Being stuck indoors.
> Has the pandemic created a greater impact for persons who are blind, 
> deafblind, or partially sighted?  Absolutely. These persons now have a 
> heightened need to “be aware” of current locations and planned destinations. 
> They need to know where they are and limit their exposures.
> 
> A new opportunity to experience your environment. 
> BlindSquare 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblindsquare.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679261303=PKIIPYVwvLLDhbzyzdzFxTC3UB6nfhrgbnf8Px8emUY%3D=0>
>  and NaviLens 
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>  leaders in improving the lives for those who are blind/deafblind or 
> partially sighted, bring you an opportunity to discover abilities and equip 
> yourself in anticipation of a return to a new normal, and to provide you 
> greater independence, comfort, and location awareness with immediate and long 
> term rewards.
> 
> BlindSquare is the world’s most widely used accessible GPS iOS app developed 
> for persons who are blind, deafblind or partially sighted. With the help of 
> third-party navigation apps, BlindSquare’s self-voicing app delivers detailed 
> points of interest and intersections for safe, reliable travel. Paired with 
> NaviLens, the app that scans proprietary codes to deliver situational 
> information instantly, this duo offers an unmatched experience for users to 
> navigate independently and more importantly in today’s environment, safely.
> 
> While our products have been helpful for our current users, we pondered, why 
> it can’t be great for all during this stress-filled time? We looked for a way 
> to solve this, without cost.
> 
> BlindSquare’s reputation, across its 8 years of service, is replete with 
> personal success stories such as those that extoll the value of travel 
> information for making informed choices and the ability to “simulate” future 
> destinations for adventure.  When using simulation, BlindSquare behaves just 
> as if you’re there! And with NaviLens 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.navilens.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C4ba5c4dbf5f740a72bcf08d7f768c570%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637249901679271294=fgwTWVhwwYtxWfa%2BypW5sXRyuF%2F8UBBVh2s81vWtUuE%3D=0>
>  on board  your device, you have access to their award-winning technology to 
> create personal tags that can be used to “label your world” for such things 
> as cupboard content, prescription bottles, fridge contents (including best 
> before dates!), contents of your bar, contents of your freezer, and more. 
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Re: Need Help with Generating / Finding Audio Labels for Moving Boxes

2020-05-11 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tracey, 

Thank you for posting the link.

As the topic has been brought up.  What I’m hoping for is a NFC audio 
tag recorder and reader.  Basically it could use the iPhone to do what the Pen 
friend does without needing a extra device. 

NFC is built into the phone and perfect for this application.  It is the tech 
apple uses for Apple Pay in stores and developers have access to it.

It is what Wayaround uses only they do text only and also use proprietary tags 
instead of mainstream tags.  They also seem to not be interested in adding 
audio recording only text.

I contacted Digit-eyes about this before COVID19 and I thought they 
were considering using it but over two monthss have gone by and I have not 
heard any updates.

I also wrote to Way around twice about 6 months apart asking if they would be 
adding Audio recording.  I didn’t get a response.


NFC Near Field Communication, I believe has the best solution for audio and 
text labeling on the iPhone.  Navilens has the potential to use the camera to 
identify it’s tags at a distance.  This might be also useful but I think more 
so for other applications.  Still, it works quickly and affordably
.

Eric Caron 

> On May 11, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Here’s a link to that app.
> 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/navilens/id1273704914 
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/navilens/id1273704914>
> 
> Also, I was wondering as a potential solution, could you create your own bar 
> codes for seeing AI? Alternatively, could you create qr codes for the 
> built-in qr code reader in the iPhone? 
> 
> Curious, 
> Traci 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 11, 2020, at 1:22 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Not answering your question but where you heading to?
>> 
>> Anywhere exciting?
>> 
>> Simon F
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Monday, 11 May 2020 8:29 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need Help with Generating / Finding Audio Labels for Moving Boxes
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I need to find a way to generate some barcode labels or, perhaps, purchase 
>> some barcode labels that I can slap on moving boxes.
>> 
>> My first solution was to use the Digit Eyes app but, after trying for over 
>> 2-hours, with three different computers, Including Windows 7, Windows 10, 
>> and Mac OS Catalina, and 2 different laser printers, and, after purchasing 
>> the blank Avery labels the developer said I should get, I cannot get the 
>> printed barcodes to line up correctly on the actual labels.  I am extremely 
>> disappointed in this aspect of the digit Eyes app for iOS.  The funny thing 
>> is that the test print pages for Digit Eyes line up perfectly.  It is the 
>> generated PDF document that, even on screen, are not centered correctly.  I 
>> was told by the developer that they now generate their barcodes via Google.
>> Whatever!  I have wasted enough time with Digit Eyes with regard to 
>> generating audio labels.  
>> 
>> Does anyone know of another off-the-shelf solution?  
>> 
>> Can one buy pre-printed barcodes that one could use with Digit Eyes? Or some 
>> other way I can reliably label boxes in order to have my phone tell me the 
>> contents of the box?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: Need Help with Generating / Finding Audio Labels for Moving Boxes

2020-05-10 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Mark, 

I totally feel your pain.  I really like the Digit-Eyes app but have 
not used it for years because I can’t get the audio labels to work reliably and 
easily. 

I have not found Way Around to be a good solution because the tags need 
to be ordered and they can be expensive when trying to label many items. 
More then that, at least, last time I checked, they were not a audio labeler, 
they only allowed for you to enter text.  I find this very limiting. 

I’m hoping for a better labeling iPhone solution in the future. 

One interesting app you can look at that is free is Navilense.  I hope I 
spelled that correctly.  It was recommended to me as a free audio labeling 
solution.  You print the labels yourself.  You can use the sheets you purchased 
for Digit-Eyes.  They are a unique system designed to work for the visually 
impaired.  I must admit they worked very well for me.  They are designed for 
the phone to pick up the label by the camera and do it easily, quickly and even 
from long distances. 

they just came out with a second pack of free labels.  So perhaps this 
might be a good solution.

I’d love a NFC solution like Way Around to have an audio labeling option and 
maybe an option for use of less expensive third party NFC tags. 

I hope this helps.  Try the Navilense app and let us know how it goes.

Eric Caron 


> On May 10, 2020, at 7:48 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I would recommend using WayAround tags for this. You can record the contents 
> of each box with a tag then duct tape or packing tape the tag to the box. You 
> record and read the tags using an iPhone or Android phone. Note that the tags 
> are completely reusable so you will have them after you unpack all the boxes 
> for any other tagging jobs. 
> 
> To learn more about WayAround tags, check their web site at:
> wayaround.com
> 
> WayAroundare currently hosting Zoom weekly sessions to introduce the tags and 
> provide tipson usage by others. The web site will lead you to these. 
> 
> WayAround is currently offering a discount, 15% I think,  on their tags. I 
> believe their dealers are also offering the discount. You can order from 
> WayAround or ATGuys in the U.S. In Canada, only Canadian Assistive Technology 
> sells the WayARound products. 
> 
> ATGuys.com
> canasstech.com
> 
> i hope this helps,
> 
> Dave Clement
> Winnipeg MB
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 10, 2020, at 3:29 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I need to find a way to generate some barcode labels or, perhaps, purchase
> some barcode labels that I can slap on moving boxes.
> 
> My first solution was to use the Digit Eyes app but, after trying for over
> 2-hours, with three different computers, Including Windows 7, Windows 10,
> and Mac OS Catalina, and 2 different laser printers, and, after purchasing
> the blank Avery labels the developer said I should get, I cannot get the
> printed barcodes to line up correctly on the actual labels.  I am extremely
> disappointed in this aspect of the digit Eyes app for iOS.  The funny thing
> is that the test print pages for Digit Eyes line up perfectly.  It is the
> generated PDF document that, even on screen, are not centered correctly.  I
> was told by the developer that they now generate their barcodes via Google.
> Whatever!  I have wasted enough time with Digit Eyes with regard to
> generating audio labels.  
> 
> Does anyone know of another off-the-shelf solution?  
> 
> Can one buy pre-printed barcodes that one could use with Digit Eyes? Or some
> other way I can reliably label boxes in order to have my phone tell me the
> contents of the box?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Eric Caron
I’m looking for something that would be useful on say a 100 or 200 mile hike in 
the woods, say At trail.  Either something GPS locations can be added to or if 
possible even have it follow us on a map to indicate if we are on the trail. 

I’m new at this so not sure what is the most helpful.

Eric 


> On May 9, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> For non-established trails, are you looking for bread crumb navigation?
> 
> Prominent survival bloggers have evaluated iPhones and $500 Garman
> navigation devices in places without cell signals and found both offer
> the same level of accuracy. Realize though, calling the iPhone’s
> navigation capability GPS is inaccurate.  While it does use the Geo
> positioning System from the United States Government, the iPhone also
> uses the Global Navigation Satellite System or GLONAS from the Russian
> government, cell towers, Wi-Fi locations, and starting with the 2017
> iPhones, Galileo, the European satellite navigation system.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
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> On 5/9/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> I’m looking for info on both established trails but also less established
>> ones.  And if a iPhone is not as strong as a designated receiver I’m ok with
>> looking into that.
>> 
>> Those with experience hiking with GPS, I’m hoping have some good advice to
>> share.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
>>> turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
>>> in areas off trail?
>>> 
>>> Kelly
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 5/8/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>>> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
>>>> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
>>>> trail..
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>>>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>‚Best, Gradimir
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>>>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi foks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but
>>>>> as
>>>>> I’m
>>>>> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-09 Thread Eric Caron
I’m looking for info on both established trails but also less established ones. 
 And if a iPhone is not as strong as a designated receiver I’m ok with looking 
into that.

Those with experience hiking with GPS, I’m hoping have some good advice to 
share.

Eric 



> On May 9, 2020, at 11:33 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Google Maps includes bike and hiking trails so it can offer turn by
> turn directions on these. Would you be on designated trails or hiking
> in areas off trail?
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
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> On 5/8/20, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old
>> 2010 book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian
>> trail..
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on:
>>> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
>>> 
>>> ‚Best, Gradimir
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Eric Caron" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi foks,
>>> 
>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as
>>> I’m
>>> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>> 
>>> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-08 Thread Eric Caron
Can you tell me why you like it?  I just heard about the app from an old 2010 
book about a blind man that used it to help hike the Appalachian trail..


> On May 8, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Gradimir Kragić  wrote:
> 
> 
>Good GPS app is Loadstone for blind. More information on: 
> http://www.loadstone-gps.com
> 
>   ‚Best, Gradimir
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Eric Caron" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 11:46 PM
> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
> 
> 
> Hi foks,
> 
> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
> doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
> 
> What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Eric Caron
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Re: GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-07 Thread Eric Caron
Thanks folks, 

Keep the suggestions coming. 

I’ll try the near by explorer.  I had the app but never played with it.  I have 
good coverage so I’ll see if the paid version is worth it if it actually is 
useful when hiking. 

I’ve got a lot to learn to see if it is helpful.

If other apps might be more useful send the tips my way. 

Eric Caron 


> On May 7, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I think you will find the full program is still $79.99 on the App store.
> However, the free version has had some upgrades recently.
> 
> But, you will need GPS coverage and Data coverage since the free version 
> doesn't download the maps.
> 
> 
> Richard
> Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it 
> just stops you from enjoying the good."
> 
> Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you,MissKitty Referrin'To  APH's NearByExplorer or APH's 
>> NearByExplorerOnline?
>> I  know APH's NearByExplorerOnline is Free  on Both Apple's iOS as well as 
>> Google'sAndroid
>> But
>> I didn't know that APH's NearByExplorer was Also Free, is that  "what" you 
>> are sayin'?
>> At 05:49 PM 5/7/2020, you wrote:
>>> Have you tried nearby explorer?  You can now download it free from either 
>>> apple or google play.  I am not a hiker, but I find that it does give a 
>>> fair amount of info.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Eric Caron
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2020 6:46 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: GPS Apps for hiking?
>>> 
>>> Hi foks,
>>> 
>>> Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as 
>>> I’m doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.
>>> 
>>>What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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GPS Apps for hiking?

2020-05-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi foks,

Is there a good GPS  app for hiking?  I have apps for on the road but as I’m 
doing more off road hiking they are not helpful.

What are people using for hiking navigation and GPS info?

Thank you,

Eric Caron 

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Wifi Assist , a tip that might be helpful

2020-04-23 Thread Eric Caron


Hi fellow listers,

I thought I’d share this.  While ordering an iPhone for a family member 
the Xfinity person mentioned to me that I might want to turn off Wifi Assist.  
Here is what I learned.

In the setting under cellular is a wifi assist option. 
When on the phone will select the strongest signal wifi or cell.

This means if you have a data plan your phone will use data even when wifi is 
available if the cell signal is stronger. 

In my case my phone would change to Cell and stay there for extended times.  I 
didn’t know wy and it was frustrating.  Once I changed the setting my phone 
stayed on wifi consistently. 

If you have unlimited data all good and use the option but, I’m on a shared 
data plan and I was the data hog without meaning to be. 

I hope this tip is helpful to others.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Native Mail App Question

2020-03-31 Thread Eric Caron
Yes, 

I think there is a way to get to rules in mail.  I don’t remember how I 
did it but I think it is through iCloud on the web.  If one can do that using 
safari through a iOS device then you might be able to set up the mail boxes and 
rules that way.  Certainly not an easy process. 

 I really appreciate the problem solving and info on this list.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:33 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if you could log into the web mail version of  your email account 
> and set up rules there.  I rarely use webmail, but some providers might allow 
> this in their online interface through Safari. 
>  
> k
>  
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>  
>  
> Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
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> Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
> Best regards,
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Re: Native Mail App Question

2020-03-31 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Danney,

What exactly are you hoping to have happen?  And, do you have access to 
your mail through a computer as well as your iPhone? 

If you want to have messages from a group such as this go to a specific mailbox 
that can be done with mail rules in the mail app on a Mac computer. Thats how I 
sort out several mailing lists. 

I  have done this also in google in the past so I expect most mail 
applications, at least on the computer can do that. 

My iPhone in box seems to be following the rules I set up on my computer.  I 
must admit however that I read most list emails on my computer by going to the 
mail box.  I don’t usually do that on my iPhone.

Still the messages are getting filtered correctly when I check my mail on my 
iPhone.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 31, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> Not that I'm aware of.
> I've asked for this for several years.
> Keep asking Apple to include this feature and maybe one day it will show up.
> I'd write Apple accessibility, but maybe more importantly add the feedback 
> through www.apple.com/feedback <http://www.apple.com/feedback>
> since this is not strictly an accessibility issue, their accessibility people 
> may not have much to say about this, but I figure the more people that hear 
> that this is a desired feature, the better.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Today's poop is tomorrow's fertilizer." -- Anonymous
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

2020-03-26 Thread Eric Caron
Actually,  With all the stressors going on I have greatly enjoyed this thread 
and seeing how my phone is reacting the same or differently.  And, you never 
know, When Apple solves this it might help in preventing or solving other 
things.

On my 10S running 13.4 I hear the T in Yesterday with the Maile Siri voice and 
not with Alex.  I didn’t look beyond that.  I just enjoyed the curiosity of it.

Please, despite some peoples frustrations keep posting your observations.  

A little light hearted tech conversation is welcome.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 26, 2020, at 2:27 PM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> With all the problems we are facing these days, some of you really need to 
> get a life!
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Actually, I'm the person who started the thread and I have an iPhone 8. I 
> thought it was an iOS 13.4 issue since I noticed it after upgrading to 13.4 
> but apparently others who have not yet upgraded are also noticing it. I've 
> reported it to Apple Accessibility and will not comment further on the issue 
> since I realize it's minuscule in the scheme of things. However, I personally 
> don't want Voiceover to start mispronouncing words it previously pronounced 
> correctly which seems to be happening with more frequency.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> The person who started this topic is using an XR and someone else with the 
> issue had an 8 plus, I have an SE and the only voice that has this issue, 
> minor though it may be, is the Siri Female American voice.
> No other voices, in VoiceOver, or Siri have this pronunciation qwerk.
> And if folks running 13.3 are experiencing it with Samantha, then it most 
> certainly is a gremlin that should no longer be fed.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> I hate to prolong this thread but I’m wondering if this problem only occurs 
> on certain IPhone models.  I’ve seen several posts saying their 8 has this 
> issue & several that mention they have a newer model & do not have the issue. 
>  Maybe I missed some emails on this topic.  I don’t think everyone who has an 
> 8 needs to chime in but I’d like to hear from anyone who has a newer model & 
> has this pronunciation issue with yesterday.  It would go a long way to 
> solving it if the problem only occurred on certain models.
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
> upgrade?
>  
> Richard,
>  
> I had tried modifying my Voiceover pronunciations to customize yesterday to 
> correct this issue without success until I was successful now by spelling the 
> substitution word as yesterday spelling the second syllable as t u r instead 
> of t e r. For some strange reason, this corrects the pronunciation. Spelling 
> the substitution word with an upper case D for day did not change my iPhone's 
> pronunciation of the last syllable as if it began with a t.
>  
> Thanks for all the responses on this issue which I still find a bit 
> perplexing considering our varying results. But I'll put it to bed now.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:

Re: Hygrometer, Talking Unit Found, Info Inside

2020-03-23 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Sieghard,

This is great info.  And, this reminds me of how much I’ve missed by 
being off this list for a extended time.

I’m interested in the full set up but plan to download the app to check it out 
first.  Also, waiting for a sale seems like a very good idea. 

I appreciate the heads up on the mounting issues.  I can prepare in 
advance for locations and materials. 

I look forward to any other user input, but this seems like a great 
addition to my home. 

I do have a Nest thermostat and it gives me inside humidity on the app 
but not through Echo devices.  And outside info is from the web and not very 
consistent to my real situation.

Best,

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just check it out at www.netatmo.com <http://www.netatmo.com/>, there would 
> also be a number of older posts about it in the archives.
> The app is accessible although you have to swipe for Voiceover to read the 
> information, touching and exploring the screen does not work very well.
> You can access all the basic info like indoor/outdoor temperature, humidity, 
> indoor CO2 levels and, for the main module, the noise level.
> Unfortunately at this point you can’t go back and see the information from 
> yesterday or other days in the past.
> The system consists of the initial package which is the main indoor module 
> and the outdoor module. The indoor module gets connected to power via Micro 
> USB and it’s about the size of one of the round Anker or other brand external 
> batteries, a cylinder made from aluminum maybe 2 inches thick and 4 or 5 
> inches long. Actually all modules have this form factor, could be that the 
> other modules are just a bit shorter.
> The outdoor and other indoor modules take 4 Triple A batteries and you can 
> simply use a coin to unscrew the plastic lid on one end to put them in.
> It’s been super long since I connected mine to WiFi and maybe the process has 
> changed, but basically you start out by downloading the app and you then do 
> whatever the wizard tells you to connect the indoor module to your WiFi. The 
> outdoor module which comes in the package is already paired to the indoor 
> module and you can easily have it 20 or 30 feet away unless maybe you live in 
> a house with concrete or stone walls, this may reduce the range a bit.
> You can add up to 3 more indoor modules as well as 1 rain gauge and 1 wind 
> gauge.
> The rain gauge is made from plastic, it has a funnel-like top and the water 
> it catches then falls through a small opening onto a tiny shovel which I 
> assume holds 1 Ml, when it’s full the weight of the water tips that shovel 
> down and spills the water out and another shovel on the other side is filled, 
> sort of like a tiny really well-balanced Seesaw.
> On the bottom is a standard threated tripod mount and I think it comes with a 
> mounting bracket.
> The wind gauge is also a thick plastic cylinder, maybe 4 inches thick with an 
> opening all the way around near the top, this is where the wind goes through 
> and it is measured. The app gives you wind speed, but I don’t think I saw 
> wind direction which I assume is there visually, but maybe Voiceover doesn’t 
> read it. I don’t have mine properly installed yet.
> Rain Gauge and Wind Gauge do need to be mounted correctly, the rain gauge 
> should best be about 3 feet above ground on a pole and of course you have to 
> make sure it is perfectly level since it would not measure totally correct if 
> it were tilted one way or another.
> The recommendation for the wind gauge is to have it mounted on the highest 
> part of your house’s roof and then on a pole which I believe should be 5 feet 
> tall. This means you probably have to get something made, I asked a guy to 
> weld together two steel plates in a V-shape so they fit perfectly across the 
> ridge of my house’s roof, then he will weld the 5-foot pole onto this and 
> I’ll mount the wind gauge on that. Of course you also have to use lots of 
> silicon or roof pitch to make sure you don’t get water coming through where 
> you screw this to the roof. The wind gauge has an arrow on it and it has to 
> be mounted so that the arrow points North, I still have to read or figure out 
> where this is supposed to be magnetic North or true North. This little detail 
> tells me that it does indicate wind direction as well as wind speed.
> The new stations now are I think also Home Kit compatible, mine is too old 
> for this since I purchased my main unit back in 2013. At that point the app 
> was barely useable, but when I contacted Netatmo I received a relatively 
> quick reply from their head developer, a Spaniard who was living in Paris, 
> France where the company is located. He was quite interested in acc

Re: Mail in Catalina

2020-03-22 Thread Eric Caron
Apologies,  I’m having some list difficulty and this was meant for another list.

I’m discussing Mac mail not iOS.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 22, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
> messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
> finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
> mailbox. 
> 
>   Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  
> 
> Have others noticed this behavior?
> 
>   I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
> information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Re: Hygrometer, Talking Unit Found, Info Inside

2020-03-22 Thread Eric Caron


> On Mar 22, 2020, at 12:22 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> 
>   I’m very interested in this Netatmo device.  Any tips for me as I start 
> shopping for it?  I would want the wind and rain gauge and probably two or 
> three additional sensors.
> Tips appreciated.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> However, the flexibility and additional features you get from a connected 
>> weather station like Netatmo which you would check via you r iPhone or 
>> Amazon Echo are worth the extra cost to me. I have had my Netatmo for I 
>> think 7 years now and apart from changing batteries it’s performed reliably 
>> and I can check the indoor and outdoor temperature at my house whether I’m 
>> at home or travelling around the world (OK, not an option right now, I know).
>> In addition to temperature I of course also get indoor and outdoor humidity, 
>> CO2 level and noise level on the main indoor module.
>> Since I have also purchased the rain and wind gauge I also get information 
>> about that and the additional two indoor modules allow me to get 
>> temperature, humidity and CO2 level in 4 rooms as the main module provides 
>> this information as well as the 1 indoor module you get when you buy the 
>> station (it’s in our bedroom) and then there are the two additional indoor 
>> modules (one downstairs in my woodworking shop and one downstairs in our 
>> guest room).
>> 
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Re: Hygrometer, Talking Unit Found, Info Inside

2020-03-22 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Sieghard,

I’m very interested in this Netatmo device.  Any tips for me as I start 
shopping for it?  I would want the wind and rain gauge and probably two or 
three additional sensors.
Tips appreciated.

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> However, the flexibility and additional features you get from a connected 
> weather station like Netatmo which you would check via you r iPhone or Amazon 
> Echo are worth the extra cost to me. I have had my Netatmo for I think 7 
> years now and apart from changing batteries it’s performed reliably and I can 
> check the indoor and outdoor temperature at my house whether I’m at home or 
> travelling around the world (OK, not an option right now, I know).
> In addition to temperature I of course also get indoor and outdoor humidity, 
> CO2 level and noise level on the main indoor module.
> Since I have also purchased the rain and wind gauge I also get information 
> about that and the additional two indoor modules allow me to get temperature, 
> humidity and CO2 level in 4 rooms as the main module provides this 
> information as well as the 1 indoor module you get when you buy the station 
> (it’s in our bedroom) and then there are the two additional indoor modules 
> (one downstairs in my woodworking shop and one downstairs in our guest room).
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Mail in Catalina

2020-03-22 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
mailbox. 

Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  

Have others noticed this behavior?

I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.

Eric Caron 

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Mail in Catalina

2020-03-22 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
mailbox. 

Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  

Have others noticed this behavior?

I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.

Eric Caron 

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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-18 Thread Eric Caron
Yes, 

I set up my thumb, a finger on my right hand and one on my left.  But 
results were very poor.  But than again  When I needed a background check for 
my last job I could not get usable fingerprints.  I went back 5 times.  Finally 
they gave me special status as I had no usable fingerprints.  This was from 
many months of hands on construction on my home restoration.

I liked the idea of the finger print but Face ID is working much better for me. 

I’m now having similar finger print problems on my Mac.  I got it working again 
but then once I started some outdoor projects my hands got rough and it sopped 
working.

Here is hoping for Face ID for my Mac!  Or for using my iPhone to confirm 
identity on my Mac!

Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 18, 2020, at 4:52 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> When I had fingerprint ID, I used my thumb. I figured it was the least likely 
> to get a nick or something causing a problem. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Caron
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
> 
> Hi Sieghard
> 
>   I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those 
> reasons.  Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard 
> use of my hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I 
> was often redoing it so it would work for a little while. 
> 
>   I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it 
> has to do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting 
> that doesn’t require eye contact. 
> 
> Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by 
> my voice that would be great!
> 
> Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
> Or, maybe those working on vintage cars? 
> 
> One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
> replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description.  
> It took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer 
> the gestures and miss them when using older iPhones. 
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
>> belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
>> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
>> take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and 
>> for us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there 
>> are the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch 
>> Id simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks 
>> in them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually 
>> messes up Touch Id for a few days.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Øyvind Lode
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
>> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
>> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
>> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
>> 
>> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
>>> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>>> home button with Touch Id.
>>> 
>>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>>> single and double pressing the home button.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For long life coverage,
>>> 
>>> Go the XR
>>> 
>>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
>>> is the year later I believe.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for 

Aira free to college students for the remainder of the semester.

2020-03-17 Thread Eric Caron

Hi listers,

It is good to be back on list after being away for a few years.  I was 
recently approved and have been enjoying the helpful information.

I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as it 
would be very helpful to current blind college students.  

I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
learning fast how to run on line teaching. 

Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls be 
sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.

Here is the part of the post for college students.

Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
blind person with tasks. 

I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
blind college students for the rest of the semester. 

If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
teachers as well! 

One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.

Eric Caron 

Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira

We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a student 
who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
supp...@aira.io <mailto:supp...@aira.io> for more information 

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Re: iphone 8 or XR?

2020-03-17 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Sieghard

I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those 
reasons.  Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard use 
of my hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I was 
often redoing it so it would work for a little while. 

I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it 
has to do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting 
that doesn’t require eye contact. 

Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by my 
voice that would be great!

Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
 Or, maybe those working on vintage cars? 

One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description.  It 
took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer the 
gestures and miss them when using older iPhones. 


Eric Caron 

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in a 
> belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have to 
> take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone and for 
> us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then there are 
> the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when Touch Id 
> simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and cracks in 
> them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed usually messes 
> up Touch Id for a few days.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Øyvind 
> Lode
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
> 
> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
> 
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton  wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone!  I 
>> prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>> home button with Touch Id.
>> 
>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>> single and double pressing the home button.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For long life coverage,
>> 
>> Go the XR
>> 
>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the XR 
>> is the year later I believe.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for 
>> another couple of years yet,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 8 
>> or the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
>> Lant
>> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
>> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able to 
>> start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m debating 
>> between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or the iPhone XR 
>> for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason I was thinking of 
>> spending a bit more is to stave off any planned obsolescence of the 8, but 
>> my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can also see that the screen size is 
>> a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches.   I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, 
>> so the screen clarity isn’t that important, nor is the fancy camera, other 
>> than OCR  capability.  Yeah, battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine 
>> with my 6S and a portable battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra 
>> power on the go.  Yes, I prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, 
>> but I’m sure I’d adjust.
>> 
>> 
>

Re: An Aria Update

2019-01-27 Thread Eric Oyen
And now, we see where politics has gotten injected into this list. Honestly, if 
I wanted politics, I would go to WorldNewsChat (oh wait, I am already there). 
Now, if I want to hear about new developments for apps and services and 
discussion with developers, that was this list, until today. Like some others, 
I have been a very long time member of this list. Sure, I don’t post much, but 
I do read a lot.

Now, sure, a lot of the blindness vendors have advertised in here periodically, 
but those ads have been low key and low bandwidth. They have also allowed the 
opening of a dialog with those vendors on issues that might crop up. I have 
solved more than 1 problem this way on my iPhone as well as the Android device 
(data tablet) I have.

As a considered thought, if the same application exists across both iOS and 
Android, then the underlying service being used by us functions without regard 
to platform. Thus, given that logic, platform for the apps is irrelevant when 
it comes to functionality and support. Perhaps that needs to be kept in mind.

However, given the histrionics I just witnessed, perhaps it’s time I sought 
support info elsewhere.

Thanks for the help, support and information folks.

-Eric


> On Jan 27, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Sandy Finley  
> wrote:
> 
> Can we please calm down here? Mark is not a dictator — we simply disagree.  
> Please do not  take your marbles and go home  just because you have a 
> different perspective. Before you call Mark a dictator or anything worse, 
> remember how well this list has been run for many years. 
> 
> Just because the bar for human decency has been dramatically lowered by the 
> current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is no reason for us to follow 
> suit. — in fact, we owe it to ourselves not to. 
> 
> Sandy Finleyjust because you disagree, 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Marie N,
>> I find your post offensive. I also disagree with Mark. Aira is a service I 
>> choose not to subscribe to personally, but see nothing wrong with its 
>> promotion on this list since this list is supposed to be about educating 
>> visually impaired iPhone users about things that are helpful using their 
>> phone.
>> No one complains when the subscription service for Apple Music is discussed. 
>> No one complains when TuneIn Pro Premium subscriptions are discussed.
>> I think Jonathan deserves an apology for being singled out for this 
>> exclusion.
>> If this policy is not changed, I too will be unsubscribing.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't 
>> have any." -- Alice Walker
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Marie N. > <mailto:scribbl...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This post is offensive and totally uncalled for. The message was, in my 
>>> opinion,  a promotion of Aira.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Reg Sullivan
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:42 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: An Aria Update
>>> 
>>> One of my favorite lines is "you chose to cut off the hand that feeds you"
>>> Mark, I am so surprised that as one entrusted in a leadership position of a 
>>> list that educates it's followers on Iphone related apps that make life 
>>> easier for those of us who choose to subscribe to them that you would feel 
>>> threatened by Jonathan's good intentions.Jonathan made his career 
>>> educating all of us on new ideas and concepts through his pod casts and 
>>> charged pennies for it.
>>> Promoting Aira  in this way will lead to broader acceptance of the product 
>>> among the blindness community and greater value for all of us in the long 
>>> run.
>>> 
>>> It's time for you to resign your post as moderator of this list and time 
>>> for those of us wanting open communication without barriers to move over to 
>>> the BlindPhone list!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you to everyone who contributed to my tech development with your 
>>> posts to this list.
>>> 
>>> RegardsReg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Tom Rash
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 8:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googl

Re: Who can tell me about using Twitter???

2019-01-14 Thread Eric Oyen
Well, exactly what issues are you having?

I use the twitter app on my iPhone for those times when I need access to 
certain functions that aren’t available via the 3rd party apps that I use on 
the Mac machine I have. I don’t much like using the twitter app on the phone 
because it never presents the feed in a chronological pattern and is chock full 
of promoted advertisements and suggestions that I don’t want.

Anyway, if you have questions, don’t hesitate to ask.

-Eric


> On Jan 14, 2019, at 9:11 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone;
> For some odd reason I am having trouble using Twitter.
> Are there any podcasts or can someone tell me how to use this app?
> Thank you in advance 
> God bless
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
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Re: New Facebook behavior with screen readers and pictures

2018-11-17 Thread Eric Oyen
Well,
It’s not exactly old news. However, there have been some refinements to the 
technology.

And yes, being in the dark is still a bad joke! (GROAN) :)

-Eric


> On Nov 17, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> So maybe it’s been around for a bit, but I barely noticed it first on the FB 
> iOS app and now while browsing FB on my PC with Firefox and Chrome, but it 
> looks like VoiceOver and Jaws at least are reading the included text in image 
> postings. I know one could always add the alt text, but at least for the few 
> memes and pictures my friend’s and family are posting, I don’t have to do 
> anything special. The text is simply being read. In iOS it was kind of a 
> hassle since you had to first save the picture to your camera roll then 
> navigate to the photos app then use the Seeing AI app to recognize text only 
> to find out that the picture you saved was just of someone’s dog with the 
> word woof on it or something like that. Jaws was way more hit and miss if you 
> were lucky. 
> Is anyone else seeing this as the saying goes or have I been in the dark and 
> this is simply old news?  
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Re: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi

2018-10-20 Thread Eric Oyen
Wait till you start using the 60Ghz 10 Gbps capable mesh units that should be 
getting marketed next year. QWualcomm introduced their new chips with this 
capability a few days ago. The only real issue I see with such short 
wavelengths (millimeter waves) is that they can be easily blocked by a sheet 
rock wall or brick even thick enough cardboard. Still, if you have a mesh 
network setup outside, then having other units within 100 feet could make for a 
very fast neighborhood network. :)

-Eric


> On Oct 19, 2018, at 9:42 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a second generation Eero with two extenders for a 3300 SQFT house. 
> Run two businesses out of it. 4k, TV, regular HD TVs, Fire Sticks/Fire TVs, 
> Ring Video Pro, desktop/laptops/wireless printer, iOS devices, etc. The one 
> thing we really don’t do are all that smart speaker/home automation  stuff 
> and yeah, Once you go mesh, you never go back. My TPLink triband AC router is 
> sitting in the closet collecting dust wondering what it did wrong.
> The one issue I’m still having is that my Ring Video still hangs when trying 
> to answer an alert. I really haven’t tried figuring it out though. My signal 
> in the garage where all my workout stuff is solid and I can get my Netflix on 
> and Pandora out to my heart’s content back there all I want while on the 
> treadmill or bike or whatever. My garage is further than where the Ring and 
> front door is so who nows.
> Anyway . . . yes, a Mesh system for serious connectivity really is the future.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New mesh router and my thoughts on switching WiFi
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I thought I briefly share this experience. I recently bought two Netgear Orbi 
> mesh routers, one Home edition and one Pro/Business edition for my retail 
> store.
> Nowadays having a robust WiFi network is essential especially if you have 
> some home automation devices and are moving towards more home automation. 
> Things like the ring Video Doorbell or Skybell HD Video Doorbell are 
> installed outside the house and even in a relatively normal sized home the 
> WiFi signal outside the fron tdoor may not be the best if the router is 
> located in the office on the other end of the house as it is the case for our 
> house. Of course at my retail store the problem is worse since it is quite a 
> bit larger, it has two floors and the outside of the wall in back has metal 
> siding which doesn’t help the signal. I had a traditional WiFi extender 
> before and while it is set up upstairs right against the outside wall and the 
> Ring Video Doorbell is basically just below it and maybe 10 feet over, we had 
> nothing but issues and even standing outside with my phone I often only 
> showed 1 bar on the WiFi.
> So, 2 days ago the Netgear Orbi home came, I purchased the version which 
> comes with 1 satellite and in the description it says that this package 
> should be good for a home up to 5000 sqft. Our house is significantly 
> smaller, but I set up the main unit near the modem where our fibre connection 
> terminates which is in the office at the very back of the house and it’s 
> about in the middle when you look at the house from left to right. The 
> satellite I put in the kitchen which overlooks the entry hall, it’s probably 
> about 35 or so feet from the main unit and all the way on one side of the 
> house. This unit is also only maybe 10 feet away from our entertainment stand 
> with the TV, our Apple TV and my wife’s TV box for getting The Filipino 
> Channel. It is also super close to the front door where our video doorbell is 
> and just outside the wall is our deck off the kitchen.
> After I finally figured out how to configure the routers we are now getting 3 
> out of 3 bars everywhere in the house as well as outside both on the deck, in 
> front and in the backyard and suddenly it is actually quite quick and easy to 
> answer the Ring Video Doorbell which before often would just sit there saying 
> “Loading”. I had a Netgear Nighthawk X6 AC3200 router before which is a very 
> high-end unit with 6 antennas, but it doesn’t even come close to the 
> performance of the Netgear Orbi.
> The Orbi has an app which is quite accessible and the web interface where you 
> can do quite a lot more is also very accessible from what I have seen so far. 
> The main unit has 4 ports, one is your Internet connection where you connect 
> it to your ADSL, cable or fibre modem and there are 3 ports to hook up 
> devices. I am using one for our Philips Hue bridge, another to plug in one of 
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

2018-09-24 Thread Eric Oyen
It’s a 7. I keep putting the S in there (old habit from the 5S I have sitting 
on the desk next to the 7.

The “TracPhone” is a Brand of subsidized smartphone (originally called an 
“ObamaPhone”) is a cheap, medium powered set of Android devices. The room mates 
have a couple (one even uses his as a TV remote!).

-Eric


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What is a Tracphone?
> Also, I assume you meant to say that you have an iPhone 6S since there is no 
> 7S.
> I have a 6S Plus and plan to keep it for at least this coming year, it would 
> be the fourth year, maybe I'll even keep it for a fifth year, all depends on 
> what Apple comes up with next fall and what else I want to spend money on. Of 
> course if I win in the lotterie I'll buy an iPhone XS the next day just 
> because, but it's rather unlikely although somebody did just win a million 
> bucks in my little town of just over 5,000 people.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
> Oyen
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:46 PM
> To: Visually impaired phone users 
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> Yep. Dependence on technology that only works some of the time can be a real 
> headache. Oh, and Face ID can’t contend with a totally blind person the right 
> way (it’s that stupid attention filter). Still, having a passcode is still 
> the old fallback.
> 
> Btw, I run an iPhone 7S here. I don’t have the funds to upgrade any further 
> and if the phone ceases to be of use, I will end up buying a tracphone at the 
> local Walmart for about $50. Then I can port over my number and call it good.
> 
> Sure, the iPhone has a lot of neat features, a very secure (mostly) App Store 
> and all of that, but it’s way too pricey to continue upgrading.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then 
>> new Touch Id.
>> Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, 
>> electronic doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that 
>> until Apple came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I 
>> remember I once bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was 
>> I sometimes cursing when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock 
>> my door only to finally dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint 
>> doorlocks have all but disappeared.
>> Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on 
>> the 6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well 
>> if it does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if 
>> your little fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Gordon
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough
>> of Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer
>> phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how
>> that went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for
>> a couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since
>> they are forcing face ID on us.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>>> 
>>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always
>>> telling me how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him;
>>> to which I always reply, "Good for you."
>>> 
>>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door
>>> opener which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches 
>>> his home.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so
>>> late, I feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he
>>> called complaining that he could not get into his garage using his
>>> iPhone because Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his
>>> motorcycle helmet as his bike approached.  He said, to his dismay,
>>> even when he took his helmet off, the phone would not recognize him in the 
>>> dark.
>>> 
>>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as 

Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

2018-09-23 Thread Eric Oyen
Yep. Dependence on technology that only works some of the time can be a real 
headache. Oh, and Face ID can’t contend with a totally blind person the right 
way (it’s that stupid attention filter). Still, having a passcode is still the 
old fallback.

Btw, I run an iPhone 7S here. I don’t have the funds to upgrade any further and 
if the phone ceases to be of use, I will end up buying a tracphone at the local 
Walmart for about $50. Then I can port over my number and call it good.

Sure, the iPhone has a lot of neat features, a very secure (mostly) App Store 
and all of that, but it’s way too pricey to continue upgrading.

-Eric


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then 
> new Touch Id.
> Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, 
> electronic doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that 
> until Apple came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I 
> remember I once bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was I 
> sometimes cursing when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock my 
> door only to finally dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint 
> doorlocks have all but disappeared.
> Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on the 
> 6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well if it 
> does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if your 
> little fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer
> phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that
> went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a
> couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since
> they are forcing face ID on us.
> 
> 
> On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>> reply, "Good for you."
>> 
>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>> 
>> 
>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
>> 
>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>> someone who would care either one way or the other.
>> 
>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>> for the garage door system.
>> 
>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>> (smile)
>> 
>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
>> the opener.
>> 
>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
>> Smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: trying this again: navigating a web dialog in Amazon

2018-09-01 Thread Eric Oyen
You hadn’t previously mentioned that it was also a problem on the website. Is 
there any way you can pull a screen capture video of the issue on the website?


-Eric


> On Aug 31, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Wayne Scott  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> How do I navigate a web dialog in the Amazon app and on their website?  open 
> my lists, this invite others dialog box pops up and I cannot get out of it. I 
> double tap the unlabeled buttons and nothing happens. I have to have someone 
> sighted get me out of it. I am having this same problem both on the website 
> and in the Amazon app. I am running latest version of IOS and using a Focus 
> 14 Blue 4th generation braille display. Your help be greatly appreciated. 
> Wayne
> 
> Chime bear
> musical notesbear face
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Please Join Me in Requesting that a new iOS Amazon App VoiceOver List Viewing Bug Be Resolved ASAP

2018-09-01 Thread Eric Oyen
I had posted a response via the other thread. Still, I should probably post the 
same here.

A suggestion:
Post a review via the review system in the App Store. Rate it as 0 stars, title 
it as accessibility bug issue, and in the body, describe the bug and request 
something be done about it.

Additionally (and this thought just occurred to me: share a link to that review 
on twitter (and include @amazon and the Ceo of amazon in the tweet) and also 
share a link on there to the facebook page for amazon (as well as on your own 
timeline). This will make the problem *very* visible to the public and force 
amazon to have to deal with the issue on an expidited patch cycle. If your 
posts get deleted, repost them. Keep bugging until something gets done.

Btw, this is the method I have used in the past to get other vendors to behave 
properly

Btw, I don’t know if it’s possible, but if you can pull a screen recording in 
real time of the issue happening and then post it in addition, it will leave 
very little doubt that there is a problem. Amazon (and others) can dismiss 
text, but it’s a lot more difficult to explain away video.

-Eric


> On Aug 31, 2018, at 7:09 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> In case you have not yet noticed, when a user attempts to view saved
> shopping/wish lists in the Amazon App, an Invitation dialog box now appears
> which prevents VoiceOver users from accessing any saved lists or any items
> on any of those lists.  This is most annoying, to say the least.
> 
> Please join me in requesting that Amazon resolve this issue as soon as
> possible.
> 
> I have written both a bug report and a tweet regarding this problem.  Please
> feel free to use any or all of my words in your submissions.
> 
> Submit your request as an app review in the App Store, send a direct email
> to customer service at
> cs-re...@amazon.com, send a direct message to the developers on twitter at
> @AmazonHelp, and tweet Amazon on twitter at @Amazon.
> 
> Okay, I will paste in both my tweet and bug report, below:
> 
> [BEGIN BUG REPORT]:
> Subject:  Major Accessibility iOS Amazon App VoiceOver Bug Regarding The
> Visually Impaired Viewing Saved Amazon Lists
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As of today, Friday, August 31, 2018, those using VoiceOver, Apple's
> software screen reading solution for the blind and low vision, in order to
> access the latest version of the iOS Amazon app, cannot access any of their
> saved shopping/wish lists.
> 
> To reproduce this bug:
> 
> 1.
> With the latest version of iOS installed on the device, make certain that
> VoiceOver is enabled.
> 
> 2.
> Open the Amazon app.
> 
> 3.
> Select the Navigation Menu, located near the upper left corner of the
> display.
> 
> 4.
> Select Your Lists.  A dialog box appears, as an overlay, suggesting that the
> user invite others to add or remove items from lists.  When this invitation
> dialog box appears, a VoiceOver user can neither dismiss the invitation
> suggestion dialog box nor navigate away from it in order to access any
> lists.  Currently, the only workaround is to disable VoiceOver, which a
> blind person would not do, dismiss the dialog box using standard iOS
> gestures, then re-enable VoiceOver.  Assuming that this work around has been
> employed, continue to the next step.
> 
> 5.
> With the invitation dialog box dismissed and VoiceOver once again enabled,
> select View Lists.
> 
> 6.
> Select a private list to which you have previously  saved items.  A dialog
> box appears, as an overlay, suggesting that the user invite others to add or
> remove items from lists.  When this invitation dialog box appears, a
> VoiceOver user can neither dismiss the invitation suggestion dialog box nor
> navigate away from it in order to access any items on the list.  Currently,
> the only workaround is to disable VoiceOver, which a blind person would not
> do, dismiss the dialog box using standard iOS gestures, then re-enable
> VoiceOver.
> 
> I fervently request that this significant iOS Amazon app VoiceOver bug be
> resolved as soon as possible.
> [END BUG REPORT]:
> 
> [BEGIN TWEET]:
> In the latest version of #iOS @Amazon app, the #VisuallyImpaired, using
> #VoiceOver, can't view saved lists when the invitation dialog box appears.
> I'm asking the AppDevs to fix this bug ASAP. @AmazonHelp
> [END TWEET]:
> 
> Thank you all for your help on this one,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Workaround for Amazon app bug was RE: navigating a web dialog in Amazon

2018-09-01 Thread Eric Oyen
Also,
You might file a review on the app review system in the App Store, rate it as 0 
stars, title it as accessibility bug and fill in details. Because this will 
make the reports publicly visible, amazon might not get a choice in putting 
this off. The more negative reviews, the faster they will have to address it.

Just a thought (I have done this to other vendors on the App Store and it’s 
amazing how fast they pay attention).

-Eric


> On Sep 1, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I totally agree we should report this bug to Amazon en masse but until it is 
> corrected, I have a workaround that seems to get past the web dialog box 
> hangup. Here's what I do:
>  
> 1.  Execute the Show Navigation Menu button.
> 2.  Execute the Your Lists button.
> 3.  Turn off Voiceover with either a quick three times press of the home 
> button or by asking Siri to turn it off.
> 4.  Touch the screen about a third of the way down from the top. I'm not 
> usually a fan of doing such a thing because of the chance you could touch and 
> execute some action button but with a list of your lists, this hasn't caused 
> me an issue.
> 5.  Turn Voiceover back on.
>  
> The above workaround will allow you to navigate your lists in the usual way 
> but when you exit the process and come back to them later, you'll have to 
> start the workaround all over again.
>  
> Hopefully Amazon will get this corrected with the next release if enough of 
> us report it.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2018 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: navigating a web dialog in Amazon
>  
> Hello Wayne,
>  
> I trust that you saw my subsequent thread on this issue. With the subject 
> line of:
> "Please Join Me in Requesting that a new iOS Amazon App VoiceOver List 
> Viewing Bug Be Resolved ASAP."
>  
> In short, currently, there is no way to dismiss the invitation dialog box 
> with VoiceOver enabled.  
>  
> Please follow the instructions in the above mentioned thread in order to send 
> immediate feedback to Amazon.
>  
> Quite frankly, I am so very disappointed in Amazon.  For a company of its 
> size and magnitude of influence to introduce such a significant accessibility 
> obstacle, is, after all these years, unbelievable.  
>  
> This is why we, as a community, must remain vigilant at all times.
>  
> Mark
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] <mailto:[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]> 
> On Behalf Of Wayne Scott
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 1:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: navigating a web dialog in Amazon
>  
>  
> How do I navigate a web dialog box in Amazon? Every time I go to my lists, 
> this invite dialog box comes up and I can never get out of it.  I am running 
> the latest version of IOS and using a Focus 14 Blue 4th generation braille 
> display. Your help would be greatly appreciated. I try double tapping on the 
> unlabeled buttons, but nothing happens. Wayne Chime bear musical notesbear 
> face Sent from my iPhone
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Re: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?

2018-05-05 Thread Eric Oyen
at that time, I didn't know about the accessibility access dept. It wasn't long 
after that when I found out.

These days, that is the first phone call I make after doing all the 
troubleshooting here at home.

-eric

On May 5, 2018, at 11:08 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

> Have you ever started with Apple Accessibility when placing a claim?
>  
> I worked with them on an iPad Mini that couldn’t maintain a connection to 
> Wi-Fi.  After trying everything including going to an Apple store and having 
> them reinstall the operating system, it still wasn’t working correctly.
> When I called Apple Accessibility again, he authorized a replacement for the 
> iPad Mini.
> And, it was 3 months beyond the warrantee.
>  
> I had one other claim on an iPod Touch 5th generation that wouldn’t hold a 
> charge properly and the store simply replaced it.  Both of these things 
> happened a few years ago.
>  
> 
> I haven’t needed it since.  But, I think it was worth having it just in case.
> 
>  
> 
> Now, I’ve not tried to have them replace a pair of earphones, so I can’t 
> speak to that specificly.
> 
>  
> 
> Richard
> 
> .
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” 
> - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 9:57 AM
> To: VIPhone Email List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I've always been a major proponent of purchasing AppleCare Plus when buying a 
> new iPhone. My reasoning is that these devices are not inexpensive and since 
> they are constantly being carried around, the opportunity for accidents or 
> physical wear and tear is fairly substantial. I'm starting to have second 
> thoughts after my last two experiences filing a warranty claim under 
> AppleCare Plus.
>  
> I've posted on this list about an issue I'm having with my wired Apple 
> earpods and thanks to comments on this list was able to confirm that the 
> microphone on those earpods was starting to fail. I initiated over the phone 
> an AppleCare claim to get a replacement pair of earpods earlier this morning. 
> This was the second such claim for replacement earpods because the pair I'm 
> having replaced now were a replacement in January, 2018. My understanding is 
> that you qualify for two such earpod replacements under AppleCare Plus. I 
> can't tell you how frustrating it was to get this claim filed. The initial 
> person I spoke with had difficulty distinguishing my wired earpods from the 
> very expensive Airpods and had to be corrected when she set up the claim 
> incorrectly. She asked me to turn off Find my iPhone which I'm pretty sure is 
> unnecessary when doing a warranty claim on a $30 retail item. She ended up 
> putting me on hold for about 10 minutes at which point I terminated the call 
> and started over. The next guy I spoke with was a bit better but ended up 
> transferring me to a Senior Advisor for some reason. When the Senior Advisor 
> came on, she started talking about my Airpods claim. By this point, I was 
> getting pretty frustrated and again explained that this was a DIY claim for a 
> pair of $30 wired Earpods under my AppleCare, not for wireless Airpods. She 
> then came back and said the claim required a $30 shipping charge. I told her 
> she was incorrect and that the item cost $30 at retail with no shipping if I 
> purchased it new from Apple Online. She again came back an said she couldn't 
> waive the $30 shipping charge. I must admit that I was losing my patience by 
> this point but went on in a somewhat louder voice that the way these DIY 
> claims had always worked in the past was that Appple would take my credit 
> card info, send the replacement item, provide me with a return shipping label 
> that I could use with their turnaround envelope, and then credit me back the 
> hold on my credit card when I returned the defective item. I strongly 
> emphasized that I wondered if paying $130 for AppleCare Plus was worth it if 
> I had to pull teeth to file a couple of warranty claims for a $30 item that 
> probably cost Apple no more than $18. Finally, she said she did something 
> different and the claim was now showing correctly that a hold would be placed 
> on my credit card and cancelled when I returned the defective item and that 
> no shipping charge would apply. She was not able to answer me when I asked 
> her what she had done differently. It almost sounded as if she had refreshed 
> her screen or some such thing.
>  
> After spending at least 45 minutes on

Re: AppleCare Plus Still Worth It? What's Your Experience?

2018-05-05 Thread Eric Oyen
you are not alone in this regard. I had to fight tooth and nail to get my last 
iPhone replaced (the battery had expanded and popped off the display). The 
device was still under applecare warrantee, but they tried to have me pay for a 
new device. 

After 3 or 4 people and 2 supervisors, I finally threatened to take the next 
call and broadcast it via Facebook in live mode. Apparently, this got someones 
attention as they suddenly became a lot more agreeable and actually sent me out 
a replacement device at no charge. btw, I had snapped pix of the display and 
it's separation from the body of the phone for my records. 

Now, I didn't like having to threaten to create negative publicity, but after 4 
hours going round and round with the applecare folks, it was my last resort 
choice. I hope I never have to go through it again. btw, that was 3 years ago 
and from what I see here, they still have some incompetent folks working their 
call center.

-eric

On May 5, 2018, at 9:56 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

> Hi List,
>  
> I've always been a major proponent of purchasing AppleCare Plus when buying a 
> new iPhone. My reasoning is that these devices are not inexpensive and since 
> they are constantly being carried around, the opportunity for accidents or 
> physical wear and tear is fairly substantial. I'm starting to have second 
> thoughts after my last two experiences filing a warranty claim under 
> AppleCare Plus.
>  
> I've posted on this list about an issue I'm having with my wired Apple 
> earpods and thanks to comments on this list was able to confirm that the 
> microphone on those earpods was starting to fail. I initiated over the phone 
> an AppleCare claim to get a replacement pair of earpods earlier this morning. 
> This was the second such claim for replacement earpods because the pair I'm 
> having replaced now were a replacement in January, 2018. My understanding is 
> that you qualify for two such earpod replacements under AppleCare Plus. I 
> can't tell you how frustrating it was to get this claim filed. The initial 
> person I spoke with had difficulty distinguishing my wired earpods from the 
> very expensive Airpods and had to be corrected when she set up the claim 
> incorrectly. She asked me to turn off Find my iPhone which I'm pretty sure is 
> unnecessary when doing a warranty claim on a $30 retail item. She ended up 
> putting me on hold for about 10 minutes at which point I terminated the call 
> and started over. The next guy I spoke with was a bit better but ended up 
> transferring me to a Senior Advisor for some reason. When the Senior Advisor 
> came on, she started talking about my Airpods claim. By this point, I was 
> getting pretty frustrated and again explained that this was a DIY claim for a 
> pair of $30 wired Earpods under my AppleCare, not for wireless Airpods. She 
> then came back and said the claim required a $30 shipping charge. I told her 
> she was incorrect and that the item cost $30 at retail with no shipping if I 
> purchased it new from Apple Online. She again came back an said she couldn't 
> waive the $30 shipping charge. I must admit that I was losing my patience by 
> this point but went on in a somewhat louder voice that the way these DIY 
> claims had always worked in the past was that Appple would take my credit 
> card info, send the replacement item, provide me with a return shipping label 
> that I could use with their turnaround envelope, and then credit me back the 
> hold on my credit card when I returned the defective item. I strongly 
> emphasized that I wondered if paying $130 for AppleCare Plus was worth it if 
> I had to pull teeth to file a couple of warranty claims for a $30 item that 
> probably cost Apple no more than $18. Finally, she said she did something 
> different and the claim was now showing correctly that a hold would be placed 
> on my credit card and cancelled when I returned the defective item and that 
> no shipping charge would apply. She was not able to answer me when I asked 
> her what she had done differently. It almost sounded as if she had refreshed 
> her screen or some such thing.
>  
> After spending at least 45 minutes on the phone getting this claim filed, I 
> thought I'd write here to find out what others have experienced with 
> AppleCare claims. I've had great success in the past but the last two I've 
> filed for defective wired earpods replacement have not gone well. I don't 
> know if this is a trend with the support reps who are fielding these calls 
> but I thought I should ask the group. I try very hard to communicate clearly 
> to avoid confusion and I'm pretty sure the problem is with the listening on 
> the other end as opposed to what I'm saying on my end. Are others having good 
> experiences when talking with AppleCare folks on the p

Re: where am I

2018-04-13 Thread Eric Oyen
yeah, that is the problem with a text only media. no real way to tell proper 
humor. It's a lot like my phone. the only time it's funny is when it thinks 
that it is traveling around in a loop at 672 mph (all the while, standing 
still). btw, it takes sound 1.0710275 seconds to travel 1000 feet, so for 2 
seconds, it thinks it's going from 1000 feet west of me to 1000 feet east of 
me.  that's just slow enough for me to read it in real time on one of the GPS 
apps while connected to my braille sense U2. It gets fun watching those numbers 
move around real fast.

-eric

On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Jewel wrote:

> eric!  As is my wont, I was being just a bit, such a tiny bit, tongue in 
> cheekish!
>  
> Jewel
> 
> From: Eric Oyen
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: where am I
> 
> me? modest? surely! you must be kidding! :)
> 
> Honestly, I can tell you I am nowhere near modest. I am not quite sure if I 
> am self effacing either. Do I actually sound that way?
> 
> anyway, back to blind groups, etc. :)
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 6:PM, Jewel wrote:
> 
>> Eric!  Thank the powers that you are so modest and self-effacing!
>>  
>>  Jewel  
>> 
>> From: Eric Oyen
>> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:45 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: where am I
>> 
>> unfortunately, given some "features" of my psyche, some kinds of humor are 
>> not comprehended. :( it's part and parcel of being on the asperger's 
>> spectrum. It's also probably why it is that I am so good at technology 
>> related items. 
>> 
>> anyway, on the technical end of things, the nearest thing I can figure on 
>> the daily (and always inside the same 2 hour window) is that I am seeing a 
>> reflection of signal off an aircraft in the aircraft control corridor that 
>> exists from here to california. in any case, it makes for an interesting 
>> math problem. :)
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>> 
>>> That was intended to be a joke!   
>>> 
>>> ****
>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>>> - Dear Optimist, Pessimist, and Realist, While you guys were busy arguing 
>>> about the glass of water, I drank it!
>>> - Sincerely, The Opportunist
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand 
>>> off" to occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to 
>>> the sats and there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle 
>>> several tens of millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the 
>>> ground are strictly receivers.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have to 
>>>> wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that 
>>>> are continually “handing off” his device to each other.  Just a thought.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>>>> - "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he 
>>>> resents."
>>>> - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it 
>>>> sitting here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not 
>>>> disturb mode. 
>>>> 
>>>> So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left 
>>>> it run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked 
>>>> how far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it 
>>>> traveled 1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the 
>>>> east at 672 mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the 
>>>> phone physically didn't move.
>>>> 
>>>> The two things I noted about this:
>>>> 1. the direction was always east and west
>>>> 2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I 
>>>> think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky 
>>>> harbor airport ops  and find 

Re: where am I

2018-04-13 Thread Eric Oyen
me? modest? surely! you must be kidding! :)

Honestly, I can tell you I am nowhere near modest. I am not quite sure if I am 
self effacing either. Do I actually sound that way?

anyway, back to blind groups, etc. :)

-eric

On Apr 13, 2018, at 6:19 PM, Jewel wrote:

> Eric!  Thank the powers that you are so modest and self-effacing!
>  
>  Jewel  
> 
> From: Eric Oyen
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: where am I
> 
> unfortunately, given some "features" of my psyche, some kinds of humor are 
> not comprehended. :( it's part and parcel of being on the asperger's 
> spectrum. It's also probably why it is that I am so good at technology 
> related items. 
> 
> anyway, on the technical end of things, the nearest thing I can figure on the 
> daily (and always inside the same 2 hour window) is that I am seeing a 
> reflection of signal off an aircraft in the aircraft control corridor that 
> exists from here to california. in any case, it makes for an interesting math 
> problem. :)
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
> 
>> That was intended to be a joke!   
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - Dear Optimist, Pessimist, and Realist, While you guys were busy arguing 
>> about the glass of water, I drank it!
>> - Sincerely, The Opportunist
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand off" 
>> to occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to the 
>> sats and there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle several 
>> tens of millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the ground are 
>> strictly receivers.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>> 
>>> Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have to 
>>> wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that 
>>> are continually “handing off” his device to each other.  Just a thought.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>>> - "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he 
>>> resents."
>>> - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
>>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com > wrote:
>>> 
>>> you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it sitting 
>>> here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb mode. 
>>> 
>>> So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left 
>>> it run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked 
>>> how far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it 
>>> traveled 1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the 
>>> east at 672 mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the 
>>> phone physically didn't move.
>>> 
>>> The two things I noted about this:
>>> 1. the direction was always east and west
>>> 2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I 
>>> think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky 
>>> harbor airport ops  and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the 
>>> space above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked 
>>> with a ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS 
>>> sats are in near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it 
>>> would be possible to know when something is overflying my place. :)
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside does 
>>>> not give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an 
>>>> article once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that 
>>>> is up on a satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and 
>>>> sensitive, I remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and 
>>>> sold Garmin GPS units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree 
>>>> cover or if you were in a narrow valley and even nowadays the accuracy can 
>>>> go way down the tube if you are in a big city with lots 

Re: where am I

2018-04-13 Thread Eric Oyen
yeah. however, on this old mac, those might not render properly. I need to put 
my new mac mini online.

-eric

On Apr 13, 2018, at 5:09 PM, Bill Gallik wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> I will gladly take responsibility for the misunderstanding because the Emoji 
> features here would have made it much more clear that my post was intended as 
> a joke had I bothered to include one! 樂
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - “When you are arguing with a fool, make sure he isn't doing the same.”
> - Contributor Unknown
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:45 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> unfortunately, given some "features" of my psyche, some kinds of humor are 
> not comprehended. :( it's part and parcel of being on the   spectrum. It's 
> also probably why it is that I am so good at technology related items. 
> 
> anyway, on the technical end of things, the nearest thing I can figure on the 
> daily (and always inside the same 2 hour window) is that I am seeing a 
> reflection of signal off an aircraft in the aircraft control corridor that 
> exists from here to california. in any case, it makes for an interesting math 
> problem. :)
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
> 
>> That was intended to be a joke! 
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - Dear Optimist, Pessimist, and Realist, While you guys were busy arguing 
>> about the glass of water, I drank it!
>> - Sincerely, The Opportunist
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand off" 
>> to occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to the 
>> sats and there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle several 
>> tens of millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the ground are 
>> strictly receivers.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
>> 
>>> Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have to 
>>> wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that 
>>> are continually “handing off” his device to each other.  Just a thought.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>>> - "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he 
>>> resents."
>>> - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
>>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it sitting 
>>> here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb mode. 
>>> 
>>> So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left 
>>> it run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked 
>>> how far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it 
>>> traveled 1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the 
>>> east at 672 mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the 
>>> phone physically didn't move.
>>> 
>>> The two things I noted about this:
>>> 1. the direction was always east and west
>>> 2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I 
>>> think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky 
>>> harbor airport ops  and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the 
>>> space above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked 
>>> with a ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS 
>>> sats are in near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it 
>>> would be possible to know when something is overflying my place. :)
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside does 
>>>> not give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an 
>>>> article once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that 
>>>> is up on a satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and 
>>>> sensitive, I remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and 
>>>> sold Garmin GPS units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree 
>>>> cov

Re: where am I

2018-04-13 Thread Eric Oyen
unfortunately, given some "features" of my psyche, some kinds of humor are not 
comprehended. :( it's part and parcel of being on the asperger's spectrum. It's 
also probably why it is that I am so good at technology related items. 

anyway, on the technical end of things, the nearest thing I can figure on the 
daily (and always inside the same 2 hour window) is that I am seeing a 
reflection of signal off an aircraft in the aircraft control corridor that 
exists from here to california. in any case, it makes for an interesting math 
problem. :)

-eric

On Apr 13, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

> That was intended to be a joke!  
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - Dear Optimist, Pessimist, and Realist, While you guys were busy arguing 
> about the glass of water, I drank it!
> - Sincerely, The Opportunist
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand off" 
> to occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to the sats 
> and there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle several tens 
> of millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the ground are 
> strictly receivers.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:
> 
>> Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have to 
>> wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that 
>> are continually “handing off” his device to each other.  Just a thought.
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
>> - "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he 
>> resents."
>> - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
>> 
>> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com > wrote:
>> 
>> you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it sitting 
>> here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb mode. 
>> 
>> So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left 
>> it run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked 
>> how far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it 
>> traveled 1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the 
>> east at 672 mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the 
>> phone physically didn't move.
>> 
>> The two things I noted about this:
>> 1. the direction was always east and west
>> 2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I 
>> think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky 
>> harbor airport ops  and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the 
>> space above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked 
>> with a ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS 
>> sats are in near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it 
>> would be possible to know when something is overflying my place. :)
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> 
>>> GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside does 
>>> not give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an 
>>> article once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that 
>>> is up on a satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and 
>>> sensitive, I remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and 
>>> sold Garmin GPS units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree 
>>> cover or if you were in a narrow valley and even nowadays the accuracy can 
>>> go way down the tube if you are in a big city with lots of highrise 
>>> building around you. GPS is fantastic, but you have to be aware of its 
>>> limitations and factor them in.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>>> Donald Raikes
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:07 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: where am I
>>> 
>>> Sitting at my desk in my house, siri tells me I am next door so how 
>>> reliable is she ;-)
>>> 
>>> On 4/12/18, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple 
>>>> appstore and it works nicely.
>>>> 
>>>> 

Re: where am I

2018-04-13 Thread Eric Oyen
um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand off" to 
occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to the sats and 
there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle several tens of 
millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the ground are strictly 
receivers.

-eric

On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

> Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have to 
> wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that are 
> continually “handing off” his device to each other.  Just a thought.
> 
> 
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he 
> resents."
> - German Aphorist, Georg Christoph Lichtenberg (1742 - 1799)
> 
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it sitting 
> here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb mode. 
> 
> So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left it 
> run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked how 
> far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it traveled 
> 1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the east at 672 
> mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the phone 
> physically didn't move.
> 
> The two things I noted about this:
> 1. the direction was always east and west
> 2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I 
> think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky 
> harbor airport ops  and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the 
> space above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked 
> with a ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS 
> sats are in near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it 
> would be possible to know when something is overflying my place. :)
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> 
>> GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside does 
>> not give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an 
>> article once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that 
>> is up on a satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and 
>> sensitive, I remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and sold 
>> Garmin GPS units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree cover or 
>> if you were in a narrow valley and even nowadays the accuracy can go way 
>> down the tube if you are in a big city with lots of highrise building around 
>> you. GPS is fantastic, but you have to be aware of its limitations and 
>> factor them in.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Donald Raikes
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:07 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: where am I
>> 
>> Sitting at my desk in my house, siri tells me I am next door so how reliable 
>> is she ;-)
>> 
>> On 4/12/18, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple 
>>> appstore and it works nicely.
>>> 
>>> Also, you can always ask the voice agent (Siri on the iPhone) your 
>>> location.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Donald Raikes wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> This may be a "silly" question, but I figured I would ask it since 
>>>> others may not know as well.
>>>> When I am out taking our grand dog for a walk, I would like my IPhone 
>>>> to help me determine when I am back home.  Our house is in the middle 
>>>> of the block, and when I am out with my cane I count the mail boxes 
>>>> to determine when I am at our house, but when walking the dog, she 
>>>> doesn't allow me to count the mailboxes she just guides me arround 
>>>> them (without any formal training).
>>>> 
>>>> Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the street 
>>>> I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home?
>>>> 
>>>> Any tips would be appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Don
>>

Re: where am I

2018-04-13 Thread Eric Oyen
you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it sitting 
here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb mode. 

So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and left it 
run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked how far 
it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it traveled 1000 
feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the east at 672 mph 
and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the phone physically 
didn't move.

The two things I noted about this:
1. the direction was always east and west
2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I think 
when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky harbor 
airport ops  and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the space 
above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked with a 
ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS sats are in 
near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it would be 
possible to know when something is overflying my place. :)

-eric

On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

> GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside does not 
> give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an article 
> once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that is up on a 
> satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and sensitive, I 
> remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and sold Garmin GPS 
> units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree cover or if you were 
> in a narrow valley and even nowadays the accuracy can go way down the tube if 
> you are in a big city with lots of highrise building around you. GPS is 
> fantastic, but you have to be aware of its limitations and factor them in.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Donald 
> Raikes
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: where am I
> 
> Sitting at my desk in my house, siri tells me I am next door so how reliable 
> is she ;-)
> 
> On 4/12/18, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple 
>> appstore and it works nicely.
>> 
>> Also, you can always ask the voice agent (Siri on the iPhone) your 
>> location.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Donald Raikes wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This may be a "silly" question, but I figured I would ask it since 
>>> others may not know as well.
>>> When I am out taking our grand dog for a walk, I would like my IPhone 
>>> to help me determine when I am back home.  Our house is in the middle 
>>> of the block, and when I am out with my cane I count the mail boxes 
>>> to determine when I am at our house, but when walking the dog, she 
>>> doesn't allow me to count the mailboxes she just guides me arround 
>>> them (without any formal training).
>>> 
>>> Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the street 
>>> I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house.
>>> 
>>> Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home?
>>> 
>>> Any tips would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
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Re: About the Safeway app

2018-04-12 Thread Eric Oyen
their website is also still badly FUBAR. I find it interesting that both the 
website and app run into accessibility issues at the same time. 

btw, I am also in contact with LFLegal. 

anyway, it appears that more structured negotiation needs to happen.

-eric

On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote:

> Not good that it is still having problems. You can talk to lainey Feingold,
> i...@lflegal.com. She and I, even years ago, we’re in contact about Safeway 
> accessibility.
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Re: where am I

2018-04-12 Thread Eric Oyen
oh yeah! it is. 

I use it a lot when I am unsure of my exact location along a residential road. 
It also helps in some kinds of office parks.

Also, you might also want to try out blind square. It can also give you an idea 
of where you are, and if you highlight a place in the list, it can even give 
you distance and bearing to the target location. :)

btw, I just tried to open the "where the hell am I" app and Siri responded with 
my exact location instead. ROFLMAO.

-eric

On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Johnna Simmons wrote:

> I did a search on the App Store for this app. I did not see a free version. 
> The one I saw past $.99. I don’t like to buy any apps unless I am absolutely 
> certain that they are voiceover accessible. Is this one completely accessible?
> 
> Live the life you want. Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple 
>> appstore and it works nicely.
>> 
>> Also, you can always ask the voice agent (Siri on the iPhone) your location.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
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>>> them (without any formal training).
>>> 
>>> Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the street
>>> I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house.
>>> 
>>> Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home?
>>> 
>>> Any tips would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Don
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Re: where am I

2018-04-12 Thread Eric Oyen
there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple appstore 
and it works nicely.

Also, you can always ask the voice agent (Siri on the iPhone) your location.

-eric

On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Donald Raikes wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This may be a "silly" question, but I figured I would ask it since
> others may not know as well.
> When I am out taking our grand dog for a walk, I would like my IPhone
> to help me determine when I am back home.  Our house is in the middle
> of the block, and when I am out with my cane I count the mail boxes to
> determine when I am at our house, but when walking the dog, she
> doesn't allow me to count the mailboxes she just guides me arround
> them (without any formal training).
> 
> Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the street
> I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house.
> 
> Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home?
> 
> Any tips would be appreciated.
> 
> Don
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Re: Did anyone have problems reading Jonathan‘s article?

2018-04-07 Thread Eric Oyen
Sounds to me like someone at the apple development team thought it would be a 
good idea to buffer all that text. It sounds like a good idea, until you run up 
against both the CPU limitations and the memory limitations of your device. At 
that point, voiceover (which can be resource intensive) will bog down (or fail 
completely as has sometimes happened).

-Eric


> On Apr 7, 2018, at 1:02 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I read books from Kobo, and for some months now, the longer the chapter, the 
> longer it takes VoiceOver to start reading after the command to read from the 
> top. It’s as though VoiceOver is digesting all the pages before beginning to 
> read. For 40 pages, it can take a full minute for VoiceOver to start reading.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7 Apr 2018, at 00:53, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, when I tried to perform a continuous reading command, I lost speech. 
>> The only way I could read it, and I haven’t finished it yet, is to 
>> continually swipe through the article. Don’t know why this occurred.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 6:47 PM, Esther Levegnale <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Kathy,
>>> 
>>> I also had trouble reading Jonahan’s article.  It seemed that the speech 
>>> didn’t work for me.  I just got clicks that we get in VoiceOver, but no 
>>> speech.  I was very anxious to read this article because I use AIRA myself.
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 5:51 PM, Kathy Brandt <katya20...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On my iPhone 5s I had to resort to reading one line at a time, because 
>>>> when I tried continuous reading, it would lock up, and it was all I could 
>>>> do to get out of it to close mail. My phone isn’t that full. The only 
>>>> thing similar to it that I have experienced is when there is a long thread 
>>>> of messages. In safari I think I can read lengthy articles with no 
>>>> problem. Has anyone noticed this?
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Re: API changes will break Tweetbot and Twitteriffic alerts and streaming, Twitter not yet sharing new solution ahead of June deadline | 9to5Mac

2018-04-07 Thread Eric Oyen
By definition, all notifications done by twitter are push notifications. I 
usually disable that functionality on my end except for DM’s and reply. 
Unfortunately, their own client has other issues, such as displaying the 
timeline out of sequence. In fact, I have more than 400 ham friends and I 
almost never see their conversations because of the numerous promotions and “in 
case you. Missed it” from influencers.  Also, there is no way to set timeline 
sequencing on my end (it’s all controlled on the twitter side for their 
client). The web page isn’t much better. I use niteowl here on my Mac and it 
does display in proper (time based) sequence. This allows me to follow 
conversations (and I can even filter by subject matter, hashtag or even by 
user) into separate tabs.  I have yet to be able to set up something like this 
via their website and their client is a freakin joke.

Btw, as of this writing, nearly 1 million people started leaving twitter today 
alone. At this rate, they will have virtually no user base in 1 year. I call 
their current actions slow suicide. They will cost many jobs, increase costs to 
other interdependent industries and generally screw everything up on their way 
down.

And oh yeah, my braille sense U2 has lost one bit of functionality (the twitter 
client in it no longer works as of this last week). So much for the $6k that I 
spent on an equipment loan over the last 6 years. Oh, and HLMS (the makers of 
the braille sense line) won’t drop windows CE for any of the older units. It 
would be. Nice to have an android OS on there.

So, we are getting it from 2 sides: twitter fscking us and HLMS no longer 
supporting some of their older top rated equipment. Add to that Facebook and 
their unethical behavior and I am seriously beginning to think that social 
media is becoming a short lived fad.

-Eric


> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Maria Reyes <mgreye...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Really? Do they have to remove push notifications? I have enabled push 
> notifications for the Apple news sources that I follow, and like to be 
> updated with the news. What about mentions? DM’s? Everyone doesn’t want to 
> open their Twitter apps all the time.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Eric 
> Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:16:40 PM
> To: Visually impaired phone users
> Subject: Re: API changes will break Tweetbot and Twitteriffic alerts and 
> streaming, Twitter not yet sharing new solution ahead of June deadline | 
> 9to5Mac
>  
> Yeah, it got them to clarify their position alright. They are still going 
> ahead with the transition, but delaying it’s execution by a couple of weeks. 
> Also, they still have not shared anything on their new account activity API. 
> So, it is likely that all third party twitter clients will be completely 
> broken.
> 
> Btw, even though there were over 10k tweets containing #BreakingMyTwitter, 
> their website reports several other hashtags trending with no mention to 
> #BreakingMyTwitter at all. Scrubbing, anyone?
> 
> SO far, the story has been carried by Tom’s Hardware, Cnet and even Cyber 
> Times. Still, the twitter executives refuse to budge on their position. Btw, 
> this will also lock out many blind users of twitter.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net 
>> <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the info, Cristobal. I just looked at the article, and Twitter is 
>> now saying they won't remove the current funcitonality until 90 days after 
>> the new APIs come out of beta. So it sounds like the article got them to 
>> clarify their position, which is great.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This . . . would really suck.
>>>  
>>> After totally killing Twitter for Mac, Twitter’s next move appears to be 
>>> taking some seriously useful features out of third-party Twitter clients: 
>>> push
>>> notifications and streaming. Losing the ability to receive notifications 
>>> and update timelines as new tweets arrive would significantly limit apps 
>>> like Tweetbot and Twitterrific which serve the Mac, iPhone, and iPad.
>>>  
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Re: API changes will break Tweetbot and Twitteriffic alerts and streaming, Twitter not yet sharing new solution ahead of June deadline | 9to5Mac

2018-04-06 Thread Eric Oyen
Yeah, it got them to clarify their position alright. They are still going ahead 
with the transition, but delaying it’s execution by a couple of weeks. Also, 
they still have not shared anything on their new account activity API. So, it 
is likely that all third party twitter clients will be completely broken.

Btw, even though there were over 10k tweets containing #BreakingMyTwitter, 
their website reports several other hashtags trending with no mention to 
#BreakingMyTwitter at all. Scrubbing, anyone?

SO far, the story has been carried by Tom’s Hardware, Cnet and even Cyber 
Times. Still, the twitter executives refuse to budge on their position. Btw, 
this will also lock out many blind users of twitter.

-Eric


> On Apr 6, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the info, Cristobal. I just looked at the article, and Twitter is 
> now saying they won't remove the current funcitonality until 90 days after 
> the new APIs come out of beta. So it sounds like the article got them to 
> clarify their position, which is great.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> This . . . would really suck.
>>  
>> After totally killing Twitter for Mac, Twitter’s next move appears to be 
>> taking some seriously useful features out of third-party Twitter clients: 
>> push
>> notifications and streaming. Losing the ability to receive notifications and 
>> update timelines as new tweets arrive would significantly limit apps like 
>> Tweetbot and Twitterrific which serve the Mac, iPhone, and iPad.
>>  
>> https://9to5mac.com/2018/04/06/twitter-api-breaking-tweetbot-twitterrific-features/
>>  
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possible scam purporting to be from apple

2018-04-02 Thread Eric Oyen
Attention all apple product users..

I recently received a couple of calls on my phone purporting  to be from Apple 
Care notifying me of a breach of their cloud services. Finding this a little 
"phishy", I called apple care directly and discussed this situation with a 
customer support rep. He reports that this is a phishing scam as apple will 
not, under all but the most dire of circumstances, call you about such things. 
They will attempt to notify by email only or they will require you reset your 
password credentials via their apple ID website. If you get one of these calls, 
report it to reportph...@apple.com and include any information you can get 
(such as caller ID info, time of call, etc). 

It appears that the spoofers are getting smarter and using a VOIP line and 
caller ID spoofing service to call phones in an attempt to build a list of 
active numbers for  use in other scams (like IRS, your local bank, etc.).

anyway, report these calls as you get them. 

thanks,

Eric Oyen

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Re: ios11.3 is out now, no fake news

2018-03-28 Thread Eric Oyen
not according to both Apple and my Software update dialog on my iPhone. Sorry, 
no soap boss!

-eric

On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

> Hi everyohne
>  
> Ios 11.3 is out.
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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

2018-03-27 Thread Eric Oyen
ok, who exactly made the announcement? There was no press release from Apple 
(and they are the only bonified source on this). 

btw, anyone who works for apple, is a contractor for apple or is a current beta 
tester for apple are under an NDA and any info they might leak can cause them 
significant legal trouble (including paying out lots of money for violating 
said NDA).
Now, ZDNet carried a story detailing some of the items proposed in the new iOS 
11.3 update, but no actual date was given for release. Until Apple makes that 
announcement, it's all just rumor.

-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:13 AM, Davy Cuppens wrote:

> Hi Eric
> 
> The official word has come out, the fact that beta 6 is released is true and 
> that indicates that ios11.3 will come out in a month or 2 or 3 weeks as 
> mostly one could guess Apple has between 5 and 10 beta releases.
> Regards
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Eric Oyen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 11.3 hits today
> 
> it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
> Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
> publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
> comes out. :)
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
> 
>> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later today 
>>> probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those of you who 
>>> want to upgrade. the update is about 2.5 gigs.
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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

2018-03-27 Thread Eric Oyen
um, I am a former beta tester and I KNOW better. No

unless Apple announces it, it's rumor (#FAKENEWS) and no amount of chatter from 
"industry sources" is going to change that.
-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Gordon wrote:

> No I'm in no way affiliated
> 
>  with Apple. A lot of sites were reporting that it would be released during 
> the apple event earlier today. If you google IOS 11.3 you'll see all the talk 
> about it.
> On 3/27/2018 12:12 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. 
>> Either way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not 
>> publicly available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word 
>> comes out. :)
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
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>>> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later today 
>>>> probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those of you who 
>>>> want to upgrade. the update is about 2.5 gigs.
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Re: IOS 11.3 hits today

2018-03-27 Thread Eric Oyen
it's either likely he is a beta tester or works for an apple contractor. Either 
way, he might be in trouble with Apple directly as his info is not publicly 
available yet. in any case, treat it as rumor until official word comes out. :)

-eric

On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:

> How exactly do you know this? No such announcement was given. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone  
> 
>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote:
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>> I wanted to let you all know that IOS 11.3 will be available later today 
>> probably around noon Central time. It works very well for those of you who 
>> want to upgrade. the update is about 2.5 gigs.
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Re: verification required message

2018-03-21 Thread Eric Oyen
usually, when I get those verification requests, I just fill in all the info 
again. sometimes, they won't take it unless you confirm all of the payment info.

-eric

On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:46 PM, kitty hevener wrote:

> hmm, will see if that works.  Thanks. 
>  
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:10 PM
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> Subject: Re: verification required message
>  
> I think what they want is your three-digit verification code on the back of 
> your credit card. Hope this helps! You will only have to do this once. 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> On Mar 21, 2018, at 7:25 PM, kitty hevener <kheve...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> Hi, am trying to download and purchase an ap.  My apple id and password are 
>> correct.  However, when it gets to the “loading” screen, I get a 
>> verification requirted message.  I am told to go to settings, I tunes and ap 
>> store, then apple.  I do and everything looks fine.  The only other 
>> verification I have is a 6 digit pass code.  I see no place to enter it.  
>> So, how do I satisfy the “verification required” message so I can get my ap? 
>>  Your help is greatly appreciated. 
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Re: No longer can check out on Safeway out

2018-03-17 Thread Eric Oyen
this is something you might have to report. btw, another blind person here in 
the phoenix area tried to use the safeway site with abysmal results. they were 
fully accessible before the design change 3 weeks ago.

btw, you might want to send a note to i...@lflegal.com (one of the attorneys 
who negotiated the 2013 settlement agreement). It appears that Safeway might be 
in violation of that agreement. 

anyway, I hope this helps out.

-eric

On Mar 17, 2018, at 6:06 AM, Kathy Brandt wrote:

> If anyone is able to do this, how do you do it? I can’t seem to select a date 
> and delivery time, have no indication as to what has been saved, and don’t 
> know what the enable and disable left and right arrows are supposed to do. 
> Are used to use them a lot, and, won’t be a horrible loss, since I’m dealing 
> more with Instacart, but it’s just this time they had some things I wanted 
> that I can’t get elsewhere.
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Re: A bit confused with knowing rather my iPhone is unlocked

2018-02-13 Thread Eric Oyen
well, anymore, I simply point any auto debits to my walmart money reloadable 
card making sure it has sufficient funds to cover only those charges. That is 
how I caught another company trying to take more than they were authorized. It 
was funny when they called me up and threatened to charge me with felony bad 
check writing. I had to bluntly explain to them that the card in question was a 
reload type card and if they tried to take more than the agreed payment, that I 
could charge them with attempted fraud. That shut them up real fast. No 
problems after that.

-eric

On Feb 13, 2018, at 7:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Eric,
> 
> I know exactly what you mean about that automatic payment issue.  
> 
> Verizon Wireless did the same thing to a friend of mine after she switch 
> carriers.  They took 3 more payments out of her account even though they had 
> acknowledged her account closure.  It took a year in order for her to receive 
> a refund.  
> 
> Bottom line, I will never, ever, authorize a company to automatically 
> withdraw funds from any of my financial accounts.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Oyen
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: A bit confused with knowing rather my iPhone is unlocked
> 
> well, you can demand a copy of your contract and it's effective dates. If the 
> phone is paid off, then it would show up as paid (or your bill would drop). 
> As for unlocking, you will have to take the phone to a local store for that 
> carrier. 
> 
> btw, you can keep your number when you switch carriers. It's called number 
> portability and is in the fCC regulations.
> 
> btw, if you have your current carrier automatically debiting your checking 
> account remove that permission before switching. I made the mistake of not 
> doing so and I am still fighting with t-mobile 5 years after they stole 
> nearly $400 out of my checking account.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Terri Stimmel wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> I am a bit confused about rather or not my iPhone SE is already 
>> unlocked, or not.
>> 
>> 
>> I want to switch carriers, as I just have poor coverage with T-Mobile. 
>> So I was thinking I would just use AT's pre-paid service.
>> 
>> So last night I called T-Mobile. I'm not in a contract. I am just 
>> paying off my phone.
>> 
>> 
>> I asked the man I spoke with what I would need to do, if I wanted to 
>> switch carriers, and still keep my number. He told me that I could 
>> switch, but that only the other carrier could tell me what they needed.
>> 
>> 
>> So then I asked him how much I still owed on my iPhone, and if it was 
>> unlocked.
>> 
>> He told me that it couldn't be unlocked from their network, until I 
>> paid it off.
>> 
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me, is this correct?
>> 
>> I only want to check, because I get told differing things with 
>> T-Mobile sometimes. So if anyone can answer this for me, I would appreciate 
>> it.
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> 
>> Terri
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Re: A bit confused with knowing rather my iPhone is unlocked

2018-02-13 Thread Eric Oyen
well, you can demand a copy of your contract and it's effective dates. If the 
phone is paid off, then it would show up as paid (or your bill would drop). As 
for unlocking, you will have to take the phone to a local store for that 
carrier. 

btw, you can keep your number when you switch carriers. It's called number 
portability and is in the fCC regulations.

btw, if you have your current carrier automatically debiting your checking 
account remove that permission before switching. I made the mistake of not 
doing so and I am still fighting with t-mobile 5 years after they stole nearly 
$400 out of my checking account.

-eric

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> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I am a bit confused about rather or not my iPhone SE is already 
> unlocked, or not.
> 
> 
> I want to switch carriers, as I just have poor coverage with T-Mobile. 
> So I was thinking I would just use AT's pre-paid service.
> 
> So last night I called T-Mobile. I'm not in a contract. I am just paying 
> off my phone.
> 
> 
> I asked the man I spoke with what I would need to do, if I wanted to 
> switch carriers, and still keep my number. He told me that I could 
> switch, but that only the other carrier could tell me what they needed.
> 
> 
> So then I asked him how much I still owed on my iPhone, and if it was 
> unlocked.
> 
> He told me that it couldn't be unlocked from their network, until I paid 
> it off.
> 
> 
> Can anyone tell me, is this correct?
> 
> I only want to check, because I get told differing things with T-Mobile 
> sometimes. So if anyone can answer this for me, I would appreciate it.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: best braille display in general

2018-02-05 Thread Eric Oyen
hey, if you end up marketing them, let me in on it (I did, after all, suggest 
the idea). Call them Braille Cozy's. :)

-eric

On Feb 5, 2018, at 1:50 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey, that's an absolutely fantastic idea! And you could probably make it even 
> better by sewing it to fit over the entire unit like a shower cap, so nothing 
> gets dirty--not just the Braille cells. My sister- in-law sews; maybe I'll 
> ask her to whip me up some covers for my BrailleNote PK, BrailleSense 
> Polaris, and my Brailliant BI 32. Thanks for the awesome idea! HIMS used to 
> make a cover like that which you'd get with your BrailleSense, but they no 
> longer make one for the Polaris, which is a shame, considering how expensive 
> these devices are.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 5:52 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the 
>> braille through the silk. This does 2 things:
>> 1. keeps the cells clean
>> 2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 
>> 
>> The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have 
>> had my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think 
>> I will have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with 
>> the unit doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Eden wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 
>>> a times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and 
>>> put a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went 
>>> bad in 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 
>>> years without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best 
>>> that the new Focus. 
>>> Eden   
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Re: best braille display in general

2018-02-04 Thread Eric Oyen
the Braille Sense U2 has a removable battery pack. It's lithium Ion and those 
things have a pretty long shelf life, but after 5 years, they are starting to 
wear thin. I could also probably take the battery module over to Batteries Plus 
and have them rebuild it. That will cost about $80 or so.


-eric
On Feb 4, 2018, at 8:14 PM, Maria Reyes wrote:

> Don't the refreshabraille 18s have the charger already in the port? at least 
> mine did. 
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> 
>> I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the 
>> braille through the silk. This does 2 things:
>> 1. keeps the cells clean
>> 2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 
>> 
>> The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have 
>> had my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think 
>> I will have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with 
>> the unit doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Eden wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 
>>> a times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and 
>>> put a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went 
>>> bad in 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 
>>> years without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best 
>>> that the new Focus. 
>>> Eden   
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Re: best braille display in general

2018-02-04 Thread Eric Oyen
I use my braille sense with a silk cover over the unit. I can read the braille 
through the silk. This does 2 things:
1. keeps the cells clean
2. keeps my fingers off the dots (no chance of them getting dirty). 

The silk cover can be cleaned with woolite or even dawn dish soap. I have had 
my sense U2 now for 5 years and all cells still work as new. :) I think I will 
have to order a replacement battery though. the one that came with the unit 
doesn't hold a charge nearly as long as it once did.

-eric

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> Yes, you must must wash your hands a lot. I probably wash my hands 10 to 20 a 
> times a day because I constantly use my display. I also clean it now and put 
> a cover over it. For instance with my first braille sense, cells went bad in 
> 6 months because I was not careful. This time, I had one last for 2 years 
> without any cell problems but now I have. I'm hoping for the best that the 
> new Focus. 
> Eden   
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Re: Any accessible app for buying and selling and keeping track of CryptoCurrency?

2018-02-02 Thread Eric Oyen
ah. ok. that is why I didn't notice it. btw, they do have some web security you 
might need to be aware of. whenever you log in, a message gets sent to your 
phone with a code you must enter. sure, it's two factor authentication, but it 
can be a pain sometimes.

-eric

On Feb 2, 2018, at 8:31 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

> Eric,
> The code is not mandatory, it is just a security code.  Some sort of extra 
> protection if you want.  By default it is turned off in the settings.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Oyen
> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any accessible app for buying and selling and keeping track of 
> CryptoCurrency?
>  
> h. they changed something then. I never had to set up a code.
>  
> -eric
>  
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Cris Ali wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Eric,
> It looks that coinbase is relatively accessible.  However, when I tried to 
> set up a code I could not figure out how to do that.  Somehow it kept telling 
> me that verification code did not match.
> I suppose I could use it without setting up a code.
> Thanks a lot for the recommendation.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Oyen
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any accessible app for buying and selling and keeping track of 
> CryptoCurrency?
>  
> I use CoinBase on the iPhone. it's decently accessible, except for creating 
> notifications. 
>  
> -eric
>  
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Cris Ali wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello folks,
> Do you know of any accessible app of keeping track, buying, and selling 
> Cryptocurrency?  I downloaded few of the free apps and found them 
> inaccessible, but I wonder if any of you found an app that is fully 
> accessible.
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
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Re: Any accessible app for buying and selling and keeping track of CryptoCurrency?

2018-02-02 Thread Eric Oyen
h. they changed something then. I never had to set up a code.

-eric

On Feb 2, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Cris Ali wrote:

> Thanks Eric,
> It looks that coinbase is relatively accessible.  However, when I tried to 
> set up a code I could not figure out how to do that.  Somehow it kept telling 
> me that verification code did not match.
> I suppose I could use it without setting up a code.
> Thanks a lot for the recommendation.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Oyen
> Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 6:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Any accessible app for buying and selling and keeping track of 
> CryptoCurrency?
>  
> I use CoinBase on the iPhone. it's decently accessible, except for creating 
> notifications. 
>  
> -eric
>  
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Cris Ali wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello folks,
> Do you know of any accessible app of keeping track, buying, and selling 
> Cryptocurrency?  I downloaded few of the free apps and found them 
> inaccessible, but I wonder if any of you found an app that is fully 
> accessible.
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
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Re: Any accessible app for buying and selling and keeping track of CryptoCurrency?

2018-02-02 Thread Eric Oyen
I use CoinBase on the iPhone. it's decently accessible, except for creating 
notifications. 

-eric

On Feb 2, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Cris Ali wrote:

> Hello folks,
> Do you know of any accessible app of keeping track, buying, and selling 
> Cryptocurrency?  I downloaded few of the free apps and found them 
> inaccessible, but I wonder if any of you found an app that is fully 
> accessible.
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Cris
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Re: problem with ICloud e-mail and windows

2018-01-27 Thread Eric Oyen
um there might be a problem with the app specific password. in order to access 
your email using a client on iCloud, you are required to use your apple ID 
password. THis is the same method I use for all other email clients 
(thunderbird, apple mail, eudora, etc.). I do not understand why there has to 
be an app specific password.

-eric

On Jan 27, 2018, at 12:10 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Okay Vicki,
> 
> I am going to make certain assumptions in this post so please be certain to 
> explore any resulting dialog boxes, thoroughly, before proceeding and use 
> your best judgment in deciding if the step is appropriate to your situation.  
> Here are the general broad-strokes on how to get iCloud mail up and running 
> on your Windows 7 PC.
> 
> 1.
> Understand that you must generate an app-specific iCloud password in order to 
> access iCloud mail on any Windows platform.   
> 
> 2.
> I have never used Outlook Express so recommend that you setup your iCloud 
> account via Outlook 2010.
> 
> 3.
> Make certain that all email clients are closed before proceeding to the next 
> step.
> 
> 4.
> From the Windows Control Panel, select Mail.
> 
> 5.
> Select Show Profiles.  A list of email account profiles will appear.
> 
> 6.
> Delete any existing profiles.
> 
> 7.
> Select Add.
> 
> 8.
> Give the profile a name.
> 
> 9.
> Enter your email credentials and select to manually configure server settings.
> 
> 10.
> At this point, use the iCloud server settings that you found from your Google 
> search.  
> 
> Finally, remember that you will have to enter the app-specific password that 
> you generated, not your usual iCloud password.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Vicki W.
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: problem with ICloud e-mail and windows
> 
> I have googled it and those are the instructions I used.
> 
> I am mostly using the version of Outlook Express that works with Windows 7, 
> but I can also use Outlook 2010.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
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> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 2:50 PM
> Subject: RE: problem with ICloud e-mail and windows
> 
> 
>> Hello Vicki,
>> 
>> There are several ways to setup iCloud mail in Windows 7.  Have you 
>> Googled how to do this?  I ask because the method you select will depend 
>> upon your particular Windows configuration.  For example, are you using 
>> Outlook?
>> 
>> Regardless, it sounds to me as though you first need to delete your 
>> current setup profile and start from scratch.
>> 
>> As an F.Y.I., one of the easiest setup configurations is to use the iCloud 
>> Control Panel.
>> 
>> Again, there are several variables that one need take into consideration.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Vicki W.
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 7:17 AM
>> To: IPhone
>> Subject: problem with ICloud e-mail and windows
>> 
>> I set up my ICloud E-mail on my Windows computer, but it will not let me 
>> change the pop3 field to Imap.
>> 
>> It allowed me to enter all of the data correctly, but in the area that 
>> says this is a pop3 server, I cannot change pop3 to imap, even though the 
>> next field has the imap information entered.
>> 
>> I am using Windows 7 and I'm wondering if that isn't the problem.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
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Re: a talking timer for ios?

2018-01-15 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Rob and others,

I have my iphone set to never auto lock.  I do that as needed.  But, 
that does mean one of the apps suggested would be a good way to go.  
I enjoy learning about these apps and tols people find work as I never 
know when a need might arise.

Eric Caron 

On Jan 15, 2018, at 17:02, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I find the phone goes to sleep quite soon even doing this, so I never get to 
follow the time at all.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: a talking timer for ios?


Hi,

Well, if you want an announcement every minute, I put the focus on the time in 
the status bar, and VO speaks every time a new minute 
comes along. So, if it would work for you to figure out when you start your 
workout at 10:15, and you want to go for 35 minutes, if 
you do this, you know you're done at 10:50, but you'll get an announcement 
every minute.

Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anouk Radix
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a talking timer for ios?

Hi everyone, Apple timer works fine but i would like a timer that tells me 
every minute how many minutes there are left to go (i use 
the timer for rowing excercise).
There used to be an app called talking timer but that does not seem to work 
anymore with ios 11. Has anyome got any recommendations 
for other apps?
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: a talking timer for ios?

2018-01-15 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Rob and others,

I have my iphone set to never auto lock.  I do that as needed.  But, 
that does mean one of the apps suggested would be a good way to go.  
I enjoy learning about these apps and tols people find work as I never 
know when a need might arise.

Eric Caron 

On Jan 15, 2018, at 17:02, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I find the phone goes to sleep quite soon even doing this, so I never get to 
follow the time at all.

- Original Message - 
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: a talking timer for ios?


Hi,

Well, if you want an announcement every minute, I put the focus on the time in 
the status bar, and VO speaks every time a new minute 
comes along. So, if it would work for you to figure out when you start your 
workout at 10:15, and you want to go for 35 minutes, if 
you do this, you know you're done at 10:50, but you'll get an announcement 
every minute.

Keith

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Anouk Radix
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a talking timer for ios?

Hi everyone, Apple timer works fine but i would like a timer that tells me 
every minute how many minutes there are left to go (i use 
the timer for rowing excercise).
There used to be an app called talking timer but that does not seem to work 
anymore with ios 11. Has anyome got any recommendations 
for other apps?
Greetings, Anouk,

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Re: a talking timer for ios?

2018-01-15 Thread Eric Caron
Hi list,

Also when I have the focus on the clock app VO speakes the minute each 
time it changes.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 15, 2018, at 16:18, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
<kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:

Hi,

Well, if you want an announcement every minute, I put the focus on the time in 
the status bar, and VO speaks every time a new minute comes along. So, if it 
would work for you to figure out when you start your workout at 10:15, and you 
want to go for 35 minutes, if you do this, you know you're done at 10:50, but 
you'll get an announcement every minute.

Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anouk Radix
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: a talking timer for ios?

Hi everyone, Apple timer works fine but i would like a timer that tells me 
every minute how many minutes there are left to go (i use the timer for rowing 
excercise).
There used to be an app called talking timer but that does not seem to work 
anymore with ios 11. Has anyome got any recommendations for other apps?
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Re: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!

2018-01-15 Thread Eric Caron
Hi,

Be sure you don’t press on a button such as Delete notifications in 
section.  Simply open the notification area be on a item such as that button 
then flick up until you here delete all notification. 

I’m so grateful this question was answered on this list.  this saves so 
much time.

Eric Caron 


On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:33, Lelia <leliastr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting, I can’t find that, I swipe up and it just lets me clear 
notifications from earlier.  Or from yesterday. But I can’t clear them all at 
once.  
 
Lelia 
 
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Subject: RE: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!
 
This is why I love this list.  I’ve been looking for a solution to this 
problem. 
 
 
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Subject: Re: DELETING ALL NOTIFICATIONS!!!
 
Perform a single finger flick after locating the clear button. One of the 
options will allow you to clear all notifications.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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> 
> How do I delete all of my notifications on my iPhone at once?
> 
> Thanks
> Anthony 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!
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Re: 18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee, BuzzFeed

2018-01-14 Thread Eric Oyen
Believe me, a lot of the Apple store employees must have the patience of Job! 
It is amazing what they put up with on a new product introduction day! I know, 
I’ve been in a couple of their stores with that’s happened! A mad house just 
isn’t descriptive enough! Try and insane asylum!

-Eric

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2018, at 19:01, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> 18 Brutally Honest Confessions From A Former Apple Store Employee. We see a
> lot of nudes.
> By Stephen LaConteJanuary 13, 2018, at 1:16 p.m.
> 
> 1.
> Sometimes we honestly have no idea WTF is wrong with your device. 
> 
> 2.
> We see a lot of pictures you might not want us to see. We would never snoop
> through a person's device, ever. But sometimes people don't realize what
> they've left open on their screen when they hand it to us. 
> 
> 3.
> We know when you're lying, even if we don't say it. You can tell us you
> didn't drop your phone in water, but the liquid indicators inside your phone
> beg to differ.
> 
> 4.
> If you're looking for special favors, manners go a long way. Lots of people
> think they can scream their way into getting a free thing. It rarely works.
> 
> 5.
> But most of the time, we have to play by the rules no matter what. Even the
> nicest folks. Sorry.
> 
> 6.
> Employees aren't there to upsell you on something you don't need. Our job is
> to match you to the device that's right for you, even if it's the cheapest
> model.
> 
> 7.
> And, tbh, we don't actually care if you buy anything. Most employees don't
> work on commission, anyway!
> 
> 8.
> We don't actually give a shit when you mess with the display devices. Go
> wild! 
> 
> 9.
> ...Because all those screens automatically reset themselves overnight,
> anyway. Yeah, there's no way we'd be able to catch all those pranks
> ourselves.
> 
> 10.
> We know that some people just come in to check their email or Facebook, and
> we don't mind! We've got hundreds of devices lying around - go ahead and use
> them!
> 
> 11.
> Yes, we've heard the "Are you really a GENIUS???" joke a thousand times
> before. But we'll keep fake-laughing every time someone makes it.
> 
> 12.
> The store can get really busy - even when it looks totally empty. At any
> given moment, there could be dozens of people waiting on a Genius Bar
> appointment. They're not necessarily in the store!
> 
> 13.
> We really don't know any of the juicy corporate secrets. We aren't lying
> when we say we don't know when the new Macbooks will come out or what the
> new iPhone will look like. They don't tell us that stuff.
> 
> 14.
> No, we can't let you use our employee discount. Has any store in the history
> of retail allowed this???
> 
> 15.
> Product launch days can be really freaking stressful. Long lines, sold-out
> products, loud crowds, impatient customers...it's a lot to handle.
> 
> 16.
> But Apple makes the shifts a little more bearable with a lot of free food
> for employees. Free pizza in the break room makes everything better.
> 
> 17.
> There are a LOT of meltdowns at the Genius Bar. We don't like to be the
> bearer of bad news, but sometimes that's our job.
> 
> 18.
> But there are a lot of beautiful moments, too. Helping a grandmother learn
> how to FaceTime her grandkids, helping a new mom recover deleted pictures of
> her baby...that's the stuff that makes the job worthwhile.
> 
> Original Article at:
> https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephenlaconte/brutally-honest-confessions-from-a-f
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Re: I'm never upgrading my iPhone again, and you may not want to either, Mashable

2018-01-10 Thread Eric Oyen
I usually do a clean install after reset, then reacquire my account data and 
apps data from iCloud backup.

-eric

On Jan 10, 2018, at 4:47 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:

> With mine, it works like a charm with iOS11.2.2! My theory behind these 
> supposed upgrade troubles is logical: since usually the iPhones are bought 
> and begin there use since when Apple releases them (take the 5s released 
> September2013 with iOS7 I think), after 4 years of use, accumulated update 
> processes…, trash is left behind, making phones slow, thus getting the false 
> imprission that its slowness is because of iOS11. I’ve mine since 
> November2017 brand new, and works great. Does ny theory nake sense?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
> 
> El 10/01/2018, a la(s) 12:37 a. m., Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> escribió:
> 
>> well,
>> I have an iPhone 5 here and it won't upgrade past 10.3.x. It states that 
>> it's software is up to date. What is real interesting is that I can leave it 
>> alone for 3 or 4 days before I need to recharge it. my iPhone 7s running 
>> latest iOS has to be charged twice a day (but then again, I put it through 
>> considerably more use).
>> 
>> 
>> -eric
>>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 7:46 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm never upgrading my iPhone again, and you may not want to either
>>> By Monica Chin, Dec 22, 2017
>>> 
>>> In the past few months, Apple has released frequent updates to iOS 11.
>>> Should you upgrade? For most people, it's a personal preference, but there
>>> are some people who should definitely steer clear. 
>>> I've owned an iPhone 6 for the past two years. When Apple released iOS 11 in
>>> early September, I was still using iOS 9, and my phone was still running
>>> like new. 
>>> 
>>> I held off on upgrading to iOS 11 for as long as I could, worried about
>>> rumors I'd heard that it would decrease my outdated phone's performance.
>>> Eventually, however, I gave in to pressure from friends and colleagues,
>>> plugged my phone in, and upgraded. 
>>> My phone's performance and battery life were immediately reduced to shells
>>> of their former selves. I now need to charge my phone about three times a
>>> day, it shuts down without warning, and it crashes when I have too many apps
>>> running.  
>>> 
>>> So it goes without saying that it might not be the best decision to upgrade
>>> to the newest version of iOS for everyone, security risks be damned. The
>>> first group who shouldn't upgrade: Jailbreakers. 
>>> I've never jailbroken my phone, mostly because it sounds like a lot of work,
>>> but a number of my friends are incredibly loyal to the procedure. It's not
>>> yet possible to jailbreak a device running iOS 11, though that's in the
>>> works. 
>>> 
>>> The second and much larger group is people like me who have an older device
>>> (two more more models behind the current flagship) who are happy with its
>>> current performance. 
>>> Updating your phone is a gamble, and the odds aren't even. Decreased battery
>>> life, keyboard bugs, and general performance glitches are always a risk. But
>>> the reward stays the same, while the risk gets higher, the older your phone
>>> is. If you're happy with the way your phone is running, there's little need
>>> to take that risk. 
>>> 
>>> It is worth noting one major point here: iOS updates do carry important
>>> security features, and fix vulnerabilities that could compromise your
>>> device. It's worth reading up on these fixes, and factoring them into your
>>> decision. In some cases, it will be worth the risk of avoiding the update.
>>> 
>>> For example, iOS 11 fixed the KRACK vulnerability, but that was already very
>>> difficult for hackers to exploit. And given the speed at which Apple has
>>> been rolling out iOS updates lately, and then more rushed updates to fix the
>>> bugs in those updates, it's not unthinkable that an update could bring new
>>> vulnerabilities too, as we saw with macOS High Sierra. 
>>> 
>>> If you're happy with your older iPhone, it's fine to leave it be. Forbes
>>> reports that the happiest users of older phones still use some variation of
>>> iOS 10, or even iOS 9. 
>>> At the very least, don't update immediately after the rollout. Sit back for
>>> a few weeks, keep an eye on the news, and see what vulnerabilities and bugs
>>> arise. Once you have all the facts, you can decide whether to take the 

Re: I'm never upgrading my iPhone again, and you may not want to either, Mashable

2018-01-09 Thread Eric Oyen
well,
I have an iPhone 5 here and it won't upgrade past 10.3.x. It states that it's 
software is up to date. What is real interesting is that I can leave it alone 
for 3 or 4 days before I need to recharge it. my iPhone 7s running latest iOS 
has to be charged twice a day (but then again, I put it through considerably 
more use).


-eric
On Jan 9, 2018, at 7:46 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> I'm never upgrading my iPhone again, and you may not want to either
> By Monica Chin, Dec 22, 2017
> 
> In the past few months, Apple has released frequent updates to iOS 11.
> Should you upgrade? For most people, it's a personal preference, but there
> are some people who should definitely steer clear. 
> I've owned an iPhone 6 for the past two years. When Apple released iOS 11 in
> early September, I was still using iOS 9, and my phone was still running
> like new. 
> 
> I held off on upgrading to iOS 11 for as long as I could, worried about
> rumors I'd heard that it would decrease my outdated phone's performance.
> Eventually, however, I gave in to pressure from friends and colleagues,
> plugged my phone in, and upgraded. 
> My phone's performance and battery life were immediately reduced to shells
> of their former selves. I now need to charge my phone about three times a
> day, it shuts down without warning, and it crashes when I have too many apps
> running.  
> 
> So it goes without saying that it might not be the best decision to upgrade
> to the newest version of iOS for everyone, security risks be damned. The
> first group who shouldn't upgrade: Jailbreakers. 
> I've never jailbroken my phone, mostly because it sounds like a lot of work,
> but a number of my friends are incredibly loyal to the procedure. It's not
> yet possible to jailbreak a device running iOS 11, though that's in the
> works. 
> 
> The second and much larger group is people like me who have an older device
> (two more more models behind the current flagship) who are happy with its
> current performance. 
> Updating your phone is a gamble, and the odds aren't even. Decreased battery
> life, keyboard bugs, and general performance glitches are always a risk. But
> the reward stays the same, while the risk gets higher, the older your phone
> is. If you're happy with the way your phone is running, there's little need
> to take that risk. 
> 
> It is worth noting one major point here: iOS updates do carry important
> security features, and fix vulnerabilities that could compromise your
> device. It's worth reading up on these fixes, and factoring them into your
> decision. In some cases, it will be worth the risk of avoiding the update.
> 
> For example, iOS 11 fixed the KRACK vulnerability, but that was already very
> difficult for hackers to exploit. And given the speed at which Apple has
> been rolling out iOS updates lately, and then more rushed updates to fix the
> bugs in those updates, it's not unthinkable that an update could bring new
> vulnerabilities too, as we saw with macOS High Sierra. 
> 
> If you're happy with your older iPhone, it's fine to leave it be. Forbes
> reports that the happiest users of older phones still use some variation of
> iOS 10, or even iOS 9. 
> At the very least, don't update immediately after the rollout. Sit back for
> a few weeks, keep an eye on the news, and see what vulnerabilities and bugs
> arise. Once you have all the facts, you can decide whether to take the leap.
> 
> 
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Re: object location app

2018-01-07 Thread Eric Oyen
look at "the Voice". I am not sure they have an iPhone app, but they do have 
Android. It creates a soundscape where higher pitch is upward, lower is 
downward, objects either to the left or right will appear in the soundscape in 
that relative position. objects of brighter color or luminosity will be louder.

-eric

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> Hello all,
> I am wondering if any body knows and app able to inform location of objects 
> on the video. Let me try to describe an example, probably it will be more 
> explanatory than my question.
> I have on the video an object, let us say that it is a picture on the wall. 
> If the picture is just on the middle of the screen, the level of audio is 
> balance between the left and right audio channel. But if the camera moves a 
> little bit to the right, then the picture will be more to the left on the 
> screen. The left audio  channel will make a louder than the right audio 
> channel. Something very similar  than the way how our echo ears works. If 
> someone is in front of us, yelling something, our ears are going to hear 
> their voice at the same volume in both ears. But if we move our head a little 
> bit to the right, the audio is going to be louder on our left ear than in our 
> right ear.
> Now, what I am looking is an app that will detect an object, and if the 
> object is on the center of the video, the audio will be in balance between 
> right and left audio channels. The volume of the channels will change if the 
> object moves on the screen.
> Is there any app able to do this?
>  
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Re: A good ad blocker to use?

2018-01-07 Thread Eric Oyen
question: will both one blocker and purify work together? the reason I ask is 
that some ads might be able to bypass one, but not necessarily the other.

-eric

On Jan 7, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Feliciano Godoy wrote:

> Purify is great.
> 
> Regards,
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> On Jan 6, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 1Blocker works for me. 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1blocker/id1025729002?mt=8
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Daniel McGee
>> Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 6:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: A good ad blocker to use?
>> 
>> Can anyone recommend any good add blockers for iOS. that I should check out 
>> and that are: 
>> 
>> 1 accessible with VoiceOver and safari 
>> 
>> 2 that are trust worthy to use 
>> 
>> Thanking in advanced for any suggestions 
>> 
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Re: youtube live tv

2018-01-06 Thread Eric Oyen
I wish I had an iPad here. then I could duplicate the circumstances and try to 
find the solution.

btw, you can send a message to youtube tv support and they can call back and 
walk you through all the troubleshooting on the phone.

-eric

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> Thanks for your reply.  I have chrome cast working on google home.  What I am 
> trying to do is to get the youtube app to work on my iPad like it does on the 
> iPhone.  I should be able to watch tv with the app on iPad.   
> On Jan 6, 2018, at 12:07 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>> you might have to download and setup with ggoogle home in order to get the 
>> chrome cast device to interface wit the youtube tv app. I had to do this on 
>> my iPhone, and after that was done, signing in on the youtube tv app was 
>> simple and worked. I can't say the same for the chrome app on my windows 
>> machine. It will allow me to sign in, but the interface presented is not 
>> very accessible (none of the buttons appear to work properly).
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Jan 5, 2018, at 5:56 AM, Larry McCreary wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I am having difficulty installing the youtube app on my iPad.  I have it on 
>>> my iPhone but when I download the app on my iPad I can’t sign in to my 
>>> account.  I would appreciate help with this problem.  I have uninstalled 
>>> and reinstalled several times.
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Re: voiceover problem

2018-01-06 Thread Eric Oyen
exceedingly unlikely. that hardware flaw has existed since 1995, so this sort 
of problem is something else entirely.

-eric

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> the voiceover problem is stillongoing, and I have to switch my phone off as 
> telling siri to turn voiceover off and on again doesn’t work.  as this is a 
> recent problem does anyone think it may have anything to do with the bug or 
> chip that is supposed to be in iPhone, Ipads and whatever else?  Janet
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Re: IPhone 6 has died, how to invoke DF you?

2018-01-05 Thread Eric Oyen
you might have to start the iTunes application. If the phone is not detected in 
there, then call Apple tech support via their disability assistance hotline. I 
had this issue happen on a 5S and iTunes wouldn't see the device. So, I called 
apple and they walked me through the procedure.

-eric

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> Hi,
> I have had this happened once before, but on my for S. No it has happened on 
> my six, so I need to use the DFU protocol. I know that I have to plug it into 
> the computer, but what else?
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> Thanks, in desperation, Sandy
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Re: youtube live tv

2018-01-05 Thread Eric Oyen
you might have to download and setup with ggoogle home in order to get the 
chrome cast device to interface wit the youtube tv app. I had to do this on my 
iPhone, and after that was done, signing in on the youtube tv app was simple 
and worked. I can't say the same for the chrome app on my windows machine. It 
will allow me to sign in, but the interface presented is not very accessible 
(none of the buttons appear to work properly).

-eric

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> Hello,
> I am having difficulty installing the youtube app on my iPad.  I have it on 
> my iPhone but when I download the app on my iPad I can’t sign in to my 
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> reinstalled several times.
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Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

2018-01-01 Thread Eric Oyen
I agree with this.
back when I had a windows smartphone on T-Mobile, I had to spend about $480 for 
mobile speak from code factory. the phone was not accessible any other way and 
the android flavors at that time had interface issues that broke accessibility 
rather routinely.  So, when Apple not only spread the cost of R across the 
entire user base, but brought accessibility into the mainstream, they changed 
the entire playing field. Basically, Google (the creators of Android OS) were 
forced to do the same thing. So, apple forced the market to accede to user 
wishes.

Sure, Apple made a ton of money at it. So what? that is the function of 
business, to provide a service or good and at a profitable price.

-eric

On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

> Frankly I am rather tired of the Apple bashing that appears to be fashionable 
> among  some members.
> 
> Not all that long ago you had to spend around £150 to add  Talks to make a 
> Nokia device accessible.  If you changed your phone another £50 transfer cost 
> was required to transfer Talks to your new device.
> 
> An Apple phone costs us no more or less than slighted people you cannot say 
> that about many products!  Take Windows alone, access software  costs as much 
> or more than the machine itself but who complains? 
> Yet I would say that VoiceOver gives us more access to iOS features than does 
> any Windows screen reader.  Can you compare Narrator with  VoiceOver both are 
> screen readers hilt into the operating system but they are light years apart. 
>  If your PC was like an Apple device there would be no need for JAWS or NVDA.
> 
> 
> I have an iPhone5S here and it runs iOS11.2 perfectly well.  How many 
> computers of that  age can run Windows10?
> 
> You may argue that an iPhone is slower with the latest version of the 
> operating system but is this not true with any device no matter what the 
> platform is.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 00:17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I think the point the original poster was making is that Apple started main 
>> stream accessibility when they made Voiceover part of iOS with the iPhone 
>> 3GS in 2009. This was only 2 years after the iPhone was first released and 
>> while I am sure Apple did this partly to maybe have more chances for getting 
>> government contracts where accessibility needed to be available, it still 
>> took a bit of vision to do such a deep integration both in iOS and MAC OS 
>> and of course now in TVOS and Watch OS. 
>> The fact is that Google/Android and now Microsoft are all playing catch up 
>> as they follow the example Apple set. Before 2009 accessibility as a right 
>> was not a term you hear, now you do.
>> I know Pablo that you think Android is so much better and all that and I'm 
>> sure it's a pretty good experience by now, but I bought an iPod Touch third 
>> generation in 2009 and remember in those initial years (2009, 2010, 2011 and 
>> so on) when I was also listening to Podcasts and demos of Android 
>> accessibility and back then it was a joke compare dto iOS.
>> Prior to 2009 you had to spend about as much as a subsidised iPhone costs 
>> now to get something like MobileSpeak if you wanted an accessibile 
>> smartphone of some sort and of course if you count the cost of what 
>> MobileGeo used to cost let alone KNFB Reader for Symbian what we can get now 
>> even if you do buy a $1,000 iPhone at full price is pretty amazing. I paid 
>> that much for MobileSpeak and MobileGeo alone and my Microsoft Mobile 6.1 
>> smartphone at the time could do a lot less than what my iPhone can do now.
>> KNFB Reader when it was first available for a few Nokia phones I think was 
>> $1,500.
>> Of course now with Seeing AI which is completely free my KNFB Reader rarely 
>> gets used any more since for what I do which mostly is just reading a single 
>> page or envelope the short text function in the Seeingt AI app usually does 
>> the job.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Pablo Morales
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
>> Time
>> 
>> But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
>> that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
>> KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@

Re: From Moderator Mark: I just Want You All To Know

2017-12-26 Thread Eric Oyen
Mark,
don't worry about it. In fact, you should dispense with political correctness. 
The truth (and facts) never hurt anyone.

anyway, Merry Christmas!

--- from the old school where values meant something.
-eric

On Dec 25, 2017, at 7:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> In an age of political correctness, it's gotten so that I'm almost afraid to
> wish anyone a Merry Christmas so I'll just say that I hope you all had a
> pleasant December 25th and are enjoying your holiday season.
> 
> As for me, I had a very pleasant Christmas, this year.
> 
> I want you all to know that I found myself thinking about you, today.  Many,
> many of your names came to mind as I was enjoying my Christmas dinner;
> wondering how your day was going, hoping you were happy, etc.
> 
> If it were possible, I would have given all of you a Christmas hug and told
> you how greatful I am that you and I are in this world at the same time.  
> 
> Being visually impaired is never easy even when some days go by more easily
> than others.  
> 
> Be that as it may, I want you to know that it helps me a great deal to know
> that I do not struggle with my visual challenges alone; that somewhere out
> there, you are with me in spirit.  
> 
> As I have said on many occasions, we, you and I are brothers and sisters on
> this path of accessability exploration and expansion and for that, I am
> truly grateful.
> 
> Okay, I'll step down off of my proverbial soapbox and return you to your
> regularly scheduled email posting (smile).
> 
> Your Brother on the Path,
> 
> Mark
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Re: Big Seeing AI update

2017-12-13 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Donna,

How is that app spelled?  I looked for eyenote, eye note,  and then inote in 
the app store  with no success.

Eric Caron 


On Dec 13, 2017, at 21:39, Donna <merma...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Hi

I just looked in the Help section & the currency reader is only available on 
devices running IOS 11.x I'll continue to use eyenote. It was updated a couple 
days ago & will run on devices running IOS 11.x

Donna

>  I can't find the currency reader either. I have an iPhone 7. This is weird. 
> I was really looking forward to trying out the currency reader. 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 9:14 PM Marie N. <magpie...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:magpie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I got it on my 6S.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 5:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Big Seeing AI update
> 
> I have a 6 s.  That thought crossed my mind as well.  It will be interesting
> to see what others find.
> 
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
> 
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> give it to you.
> 
> - Louise Hay
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gordon" <gor...@gordonradio.com <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Big Seeing AI update
> 
> 
> One other person has came to me saying they don't have the currency
> reader either. I wonder if it's only available on certain phones? I have
> the iPhone 7. What phone do you have? On my phone it's in the list of
> channels.
> 
> 
> On 12/13/2017 7:16 PM, Kay Malmquist wrote:
> > Where is the currency reader?  I found everything but that.
> > Kay Malmquist
> > kay.malmqu...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>
> >
> > Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to
> > give it to you.
> >
> > - Louise Hay
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gordon" <gor...@gordonradio.com <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>>
> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:45 PM
> > Subject: Big Seeing AI update
> >
> >
> > I just got an update to this app and it's awesome. We now have a light
> > detector, color recognizer, hand writing reader and a currency reader.
> >   From what I can tell the color detector seems to be a little to
> > accurate. I'm sporting a small amount of grey up top and it reported
> > that. It's only a small amount of grey, but it made sure that I knew it
> > was there. LOL
> >
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Re: AirPods and status bar

2017-11-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hi,

I also recently purchased air pods and I often check the battery life 
of the air pods and the case by opening the case near the iPhone.  The 
information pops up when the case is open near the phone and goes away when you 
close the case.

Eric Caron 




On Nov 26, 2017, at 22:11, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

On the Today screen (the screen you get to when you swipe left to right with 3 
fingers when you are on the first home screen. You can also get to it if you 
place focus on the picker control between the dock and the last row of home 
screen icons, where it says "2 of 4" or however many home screens you have. 
Your main home screen is "2" because the Today screen is "1", flick down with 
one finger and it goes to your Today screen.
There is an "Edit" button at the very bottom where you can control which items 
are displayed and in what order.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
regina alvarado
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:07 PM
To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: AirPods and status bar

I bit the bullet and bought AirPods from Apple. I see the AirPods connected 
icon in my status bar. However, they only show as connected. Is there a place 
where I can check the battery status on them? I was caught off guard and one 
pod went dead after 2 hours talk. Thank you for anyone who can shed some light 
on this for me.



Reggie and Lex

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Re: Us congress hearing of maan alsaan Money laundry قضية الكونغجرس لغسيل الأموال للمليادير معن الصانع

2017-11-25 Thread Eric Oyen
and what does this have to do with ViPhone?

-eric

On Nov 25, 2017, at 8:29 AM, mike a wrote:
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Re: Making International Calls for Free: Alternatives to WhatsApp Messenger@

2017-07-04 Thread Eric Oyen
um. I am one of those US users of WhatsApp. So far, I like how it works and 
interacts with the screen reader. sometimes its a bit hard to keep up in a 
couple of the groups, but its definitely better than Microsoft's current 
offering.

-eric

On Jul 4, 2017, at 4:30 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

> I am confident that Microsoft will resolve the broken accessibility in
> Skype shortly.  If folks did not update the app, there is no
> accessibility issue.
> 
> google cannot seem to make up its mind about VOIP solutions.  Many in
> the United States who use VOIP use Google Hangouts.  Calls are free to
> any phone in the United States or Canada, including Alaska, Hawaii, or
> Puerto Rico. While Duo might have better quality than Skype, between
> Hangouts, Skype, Facetime and Facebook, it is likely that the other
> party will have one of these options and not want to download Google's
> latest project.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> On 7/3/17, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> unfortunately, skype for iPhone, is having a few accessibility issues at the
>> 
>> moment.
>> 
>> Also, the call quality, on google Duo, and viber, is very good too.
>> 
>> and at the moment, google Duo, doesn't have all the extra junk and add-ons,
>> 
>> that some of the other apps have.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 3:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Making International Calls for Free: Alternatives to WhatsApp
>> Messenger@
>> 
>> Skype is very popular along with Facebook.  Many people in the United
>> States connect on Facebook and forgo exchanging e-mail addresses and
>> phone numbers.  The call quality on Facebook is better than Skype and
>> nearly as good as Facetime.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/3/17, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Viber, and google Duo, will make free calls, and they are cross platform.
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> From: Craig Werner
>>> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 7:47 AM
>>> To: viphone
>>> Subject: Making International Calls for Free: Alternatives to WhatsApp
>>> Messenger@
>>> 
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>> 
>>> I use WhatsApp Messenger to make international phone calls for free, and
>>> I
>>> like it very much.  I recently read on this list that WhatsApp is not
>>> popular in the U.S., and I cannot imagine why this is so.  Other than
>>> FaceTime, which is, of course, not a cross-platform application, what do
>>> US.
>>> users recommend for making free calls worldwide?
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Craig
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Re: ‎WhatsApp Messenger

2017-06-23 Thread Eric Oyen
yeah, that is kind of what I thought. its a shame, really as its a pretty good 
app otherwise.

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On Jun 23, 2017, at 3:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> Whats App needs to be associated with a phone number, it does not work on an 
> iPod Touch or iPad.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Eric Oyen
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ‎WhatsApp Messenger
> 
> I finally got around to setting it up on my device just now. its fairly 
> simple, but it does require you have a phone number. My other iPhone doesn't 
> have a phone number associated with it, so setup might be a tad more involved 
> there.
> 
> btw, my whatap ID is 16233995635
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Jun 23, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> 
>> Casey,
>> 
>> It's an iOS app and all iOS apps need to be downloaded from the App Store.
>> Go to the App Store on your phone, search for "Whats App", install it and 
>> when you open it everything is very straight forward. You select your 
>> country, enter phone number and confirm with a code that is sent to your 
>> phone I think. That's basically it except for giving some permissions like 
>> to use the camer, microphone and get access to your contacts and allow push 
>> notifications.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Casey
>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 6:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: ‎WhatsApp Messenger
>> 
>> Hi how do you down load this directly to my phone?
>> Do I have to go to the web site on the phone or can I just go to the app 
>> store and get it also?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Michael D. Ulrich
>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 8:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: ‎WhatsApp Messenger
>> 
>> Casey, it should be fairly straightforward and easy to follow once you open 
>> the app. At least it was pretty good for me.
>> 
>> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Casey <cwoll...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay once you get it how do you set it up?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Michael D. Ulrich
>>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:51 AM
>>> To: co...@colinflaherty.com
>>> Subject: ‎WhatsApp Messenger
>>> 
>>> ‎Hey,
>>> 
>>> I just downloaded WhatsApp Messenger on my iPhone.
>>> 
>>> It is a smartphone messenger which replaces SMS. This app even lets me send 
>>> pictures, video and other multimedia!
>>> 
>>> WhatsApp Messenger is available for many smartphones and there is no PIN or 
>>> username to remember - it works just like SMS and uses your Internet data 
>>> plan.
>>> 
>>> Get it now from https://whatsapp.com/dl/ and say good-bye to SMS!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!
>>> 
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Re: ‎WhatsApp Messenger

2017-06-23 Thread Eric Oyen
that ID is also my cell phone number. :) I just wish I could setup the app on 
the other iPhone without a phone number. that device is tied to my ham radio 
accounts for email, Facebook, etc.

btw, if you want to friend me on FB over there, the ID I use is n7...@icloud.com


thanks.

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On Jun 23, 2017, at 11:39 AM, kg7...@juno.com wrote:

> 
> Hi Eric, there is a blind hams group on Whatsapp, called Blind Hams
> Haven, but it might be hard to get one of the group moterators to add you
> right now, as they have been a bit scarce!  GRIN!  I will try to connect
> to you using your Whatsapp ID, but I haven't been successful doing it
> that way.  If you want to send me your Cell phone number off list, I can
> put you in my contacts, then is easy to find you!
> 
> Have a good:
> John
> 
> 
> 
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Re: ‎WhatsApp Messenger

2017-06-23 Thread Eric Oyen
I finally got around to setting it up on my device just now. its fairly simple, 
but it does require you have a phone number. My other iPhone doesn't have a 
phone number associated with it, so setup might be a tad more involved there.

btw, my whatap ID is 16233995635

-eric

On Jun 23, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

> Casey,
> 
> It's an iOS app and all iOS apps need to be downloaded from the App Store.
> Go to the App Store on your phone, search for "Whats App", install it and 
> when you open it everything is very straight forward. You select your 
> country, enter phone number and confirm with a code that is sent to your 
> phone I think. That's basically it except for giving some permissions like to 
> use the camer, microphone and get access to your contacts and allow push 
> notifications.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Casey
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 6:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: ‎WhatsApp Messenger
> 
> Hi how do you down load this directly to my phone?
> Do I have to go to the web site on the phone or can I just go to the app 
> store and get it also?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michael D. Ulrich
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 8:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ‎WhatsApp Messenger
> 
> Casey, it should be fairly straightforward and easy to follow once you open 
> the app. At least it was pretty good for me.
> 
> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!
> 
> 
>> On Jun 23, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Casey <cwoll...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay once you get it how do you set it up?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Michael D. Ulrich
>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:51 AM
>> To: co...@colinflaherty.com
>> Subject: ‎WhatsApp Messenger
>> 
>> ‎Hey,
>> 
>> I just downloaded WhatsApp Messenger on my iPhone.
>> 
>> It is a smartphone messenger which replaces SMS. This app even lets me send 
>> pictures, video and other multimedia!
>> 
>> WhatsApp Messenger is available for many smartphones and there is no PIN or 
>> username to remember - it works just like SMS and uses your Internet data 
>> plan.
>> 
>> Get it now from https://whatsapp.com/dl/ and say good-bye to SMS!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a land far far away in a not so distant time zone!
>> 
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Re: Blindness takes a stand!

2017-06-03 Thread Eric Oyen
the last guy that told me I couldn't do something on account of being blind not 
only got proven wrong (and most publicly, but he also lost the $500 bet I made 
with him (in front of witnesses no less).

A basic rule here is this: if a blind person makes a $500 bet against your 
statement, be prepared to lose the $500 to said blind person.

-eric
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On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

> Hi All,
> You all know very well blind people cannot do anything. LOL How many times 
> have you herd that.
> Mr. Ed
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Tony
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blindness takes a stand!
>  
> Good for you.
>  
> My sighted wife was thrown off a plane several years ago for traveling with a 
> week old baby.  The stewardess claimed it was a FAA reg.  I called the FAA 
> and found they have no such reg.
>  
> A friend was pulled off a plane for traveling with a service dog.  They 
> demanded to see his doctor’s letter prescribing an emotional assistance dog.  
> That wasn’t the purpose for having the dog.  Emotional assistance dogs are 
> the only animals that require documentation.
>  
> Unfortunately, both happened on Southwest which has been good to me and my 
> guide dogs in the past.
>  
> Tony
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kliphton Miller
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 2:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blindness takes a stand!
>  
> Recently I was discriminated against by frontier airlines.  They wouldn’t 
> allow me to travel with my 18 month old grand daughter.  I called newspapers, 
> news stations, and made my voice heard.  Not just for me, but for the whole 
> blind community and those after me so they will get treated fairly.  Below is 
> the links to the 2 news casts done by ABC Action, Fox 13, and and article 
> written by the Tampa times.  Just thought this may be a positive thing for 
> the BBE, as well as the blind community.
>  
> ABC action news
> http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-tampa/local-minister-told-he-cant-fly-frontier-because-he-is-blind
>  
> Fox 13 new
> http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/258629411-story
>  
> News article in tampa times 
> http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/airlines/frontier-airlines-refused-to-allow-blind-man-and-granddaughter-on-plane-at/2325975
>  
> My youtube channel playlist has the interviews in there entirety
>  
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ3rbZxjU37GmgIzV-rlsP_zaZoJY1xSb=desktop
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Re: Blindness takes a stand!

2017-06-03 Thread Eric Oyen
I tried to play the stuff on youtube only to be presented with an undefined 
error. unfortunately, the screen reader here wouldn't read the error dialog box.

-eric

On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:38 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ3rbZxjU37GmgIzV-rlsP_zaZoJY1xSb=desktop

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Re: Alternative to my banking app

2017-04-05 Thread Eric Oyen
have you tried getting hold of the corporate offices for your credit union?
I ran into this problem 4 years ago at desert schools here. it took getting up 
to the VP's office before someone lower down the chain would get the idea to 
change things. now, their website is fully usable and their app is mostly 
usable (there is an ad that keeps getting in my way). what is the name of your 
institution? I might be able to help get things moving.

-eric

On Apr 5, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:

> So, my local credit union iOS app has been inaccessible for a couple years 
> now.  It does not look like they are going to improve it.
> 
> Are there third party apps for banking and paying bills?  Of course ones that 
> are safe with my information.
> 
> It’s annoying that my local bank isn’t accessible anymore, but I really don’t 
> want to switch institutions.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: Emoji Research Study; Seeking Blind or Low Vision Participants

2017-04-05 Thread Eric Oyen
um. I might have to ask some questions of you privately about what the NFB has 
done.
I happen to be a member of the nfb, but I am also a member of the ACB and some 
others. you might find that strange, but I view such organizations as tools for 
my use. anyway, if you want to chat, you can respond privately to my email.

thanks,

Eric

On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Grace wrote:

> I would have loved to help out with your survey however, I won't be able to 
> as I cannot support the NFB as they actively work against blind people like 
> myself. 
> Kind Regards, 
> Grace. 
> 
> On 6 Apr 2017, at 1:12 am, Amelia Keller <ajk6...@g.rit.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My name is Amelia Keller and I am a Master’s Student in Human Computer 
>> Interaction at Rochester Institute of Technology. I am conducting a research 
>> study to understand emoji interpretation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am looking to recruit visually impaired participants who are ages 18+ and 
>> have either used, have tried to use, received, and/or encountered emojis.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Participation will include an online survey that will last no longer than 15 
>> minutes. We ask that you take this survey on your current mobile device. The 
>> survey will be on an platform that is accessible to screen readers and 
>> magnifiers. For each participant, $1 will be donated to the National 
>> Federation of the Blind. If you would like to participate, please click the 
>> link below:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://goo.gl/forms/UaORqfT6wBrFN9kF3
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Amelia Keller
>> 
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Re: viewing pages on facebook

2017-01-22 Thread Eric Oyen
those should post either in the notifications tab or on your timeline. I also 
get email notification when someone sends me a message or posts on my page 
(https://m.facebook.com/blindathletescorner/ ). It's a little hard to setup the 
page to do everything, but I managed to get a good bit of it done. :)

-eric

On Jan 22, 2017, at 7:08 PM, Jed Barton wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> How do you guys get notifications on pages on fb, i.e when someone posts on a 
> page run by a company etc.  Can you get those notifications, or do you have 
> to look at the page?
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Re: do not update messenger above V100!!!

2017-01-21 Thread Eric Oyen
well,
so far as I can tell, it seems that all controls, buttons and edit boxes are 
where they are supposed to be. there is only 1 unlabeled element: tab 3 at the 
bottom.

What this may sound like is an issue inside the iOS for your particular 
devices. btw, I ran into similar issues a few months back and backed up my 
phone to a laptop. then I erased and reinstalled from backup. that set of 
issues prompt made an exit.

sometimes, it just works better to clean out the device completely and restore 
from backup. this allows the iOS a chance to be installed cleanly.

-eric

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> Hi Jim,
>  
> The Settings button is there when I first open Messenger and I’m in the Inbox 
> so to speak where all my messages are displayed. Once I double tap on a 
> message to open that thread the top left says “Home back button”.
> Below is a fairly detailed description of what is in Settings for those who 
> have never explored it and who benefit from reading a description/tutorial:
>  
> If I double tap on the Settings button I now have a Done button at the top 
> left, then in the middle and over to the right it says “Me” which is a 
> heading.
> Underneath that is an unlabelled button. If I double tap it I get to a screen 
> where I have the following:
>  
> Cancel button at the top left
> To the right of that and in the middle but also at the top at the same level 
> as the cancel button are two buttons labelled “My code button, 1 of 2” and 
> “Scan Code button, 2 of 2”. To the right of that is a “Share” button and most 
> of the screen is taken up by another item Voiceover just announces as 
> “button” and which seems to be a barcode somebody else can scan with their 
> phone, I assume it will quickly and easily add your information to their 
> Messenger list, sort of like a QR code.
> If you double tap on that unlabelled button a menu pops up with the following:
> Reset Code
> Share Image
> Save Image
> Cancel
> I selected Save Image which put it in my camera roll, here it was announced 
> as “One Face”. I then used iDentifi to recognize it and it came back and 
> announced it as “Messenger Avatar”.
> When I changed it from “My Code” to “Scan Code” I got a message on the screen 
> to hold the camera up to a code, there was also an unlabelled button which 
> when I tapped it brought up my camera roll. I selected the image I had 
> previously saved and it told me this:
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sieghard Weitzel from your phone contacts is also on Messenger
> Sieghard is in your Messenger contacts
> Then it had a “Type a message” text field and I guess I could have sent a 
> message to myself, but of course this is meant to scan somebody else’s code 
> to add them to your Messenger contacts.
> A couple of unlabelled buttons here, but nothing that’s a deal-breaker.
> Back on the main ‘Settings screen underneath that initial unlabelled button 
> which takes you to all of this are the following other items which are all 
> labelled properly:
> Sieghard Weitzel – this is just underneath the unlabelled button (you get to 
> it if you swipe right and that is what I am doing to get to all of these 
> options now)
> User name button: double tap on this and it will tell you the user name you 
> have on Facebook, in my case it is SieghardW. I can now tap on “Edit User 
> Name”, then I can find an explanatory message: Your user name becomes part of 
>  your custom links that let people visit your Facebook profile and reach you 
> on Messenger. Need help, get tips on choosing a user name.”
> When I tried to edit it to just say “Sieghard” without the first initial of 
> my last name it told me that this was an unavailable user name. Basically 
> this has to be a unique identifier where you could type in 
> www.Facebook.com/SieghardW ad it would take you straight to my page. I guess 
> even my relatively unusual name is not so unusual on Facebook and somebody 
> else already had just the first name.
> Next on the Settings  screen is “Phone” followed by your number. If you 
> double tap on this it asks “Is this the number people can  use to reach you? 
> People can add you as a contact if they already have your phone number, but 
> only you can see this number on Facebook. Your phone number helps you connect 
> with friends, get SMS updates and more”.
> You then have an edit field with your number or you can add/change it and at 
> the bottom is an “OK” and “Not Now” button.
> Next on the main settings screen is a “Notification” button which for me is 
> “On” and when I double tap on it I get various options to adjust 
> notifications.
> Next is a “People” button which has an option to turn on or off “Sync 
> Contacts”, you also have an invite and a block button.
> Next is a

Re: Taking videos as a blind person

2017-01-19 Thread Eric Oyen
it doesn't hurt to have a sighted individual who can help out. Otherwise, it 
can get a bit tricky doing this yourself. I should know, I have tried when it 
comes to producing cycling videos and there is no way for me to get me and the 
bike in picture.

-eric

On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:24 PM, Stephanie wrote:

> I've just been offered the chance to produce a short 5 min video on the basic 
> of piano playing. I have an iphone se, an ipod and an ipad. Is there an easy 
> way to shot a good quality video? I do have a zom mic that conects in to my 
> phone. What I need to know is how to do the video side of things? How do I 
> make sure my face and hands are showing at abbl times?
> Any tips or resources on how to do this would be pch appreciated!
> Steph 
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Re: It's true that Eden Kizer has scammed a lot of unsuspecting people

2016-11-26 Thread Eric Oyen
hmmm. it appears that someone claiming to be her over on the HIMS note takers 
list is trying to contest the accusation, claiming they are being stalked, etc.

Here is my solution:
if the package was actually sent out, get the tracking number and the address.
then, file in small claims to get a judgement. once that is done, file in 
federal court for interstate fraud (theft by instrument over state lines is 
interstate fraud). Now, that last can either be placed in civil court (where 
the standard for evidence is lower) or in criminal court. in either case, it 
will cost some serious dollars to pursue.

The above does assume that someone received a device without paying the agreed 
amount. If, however, this story is bogus, then the victim of the accusation has 
their own legal recourse.

Now, that I have had my 2 cents worth, might I suggest we retire this subject 
and let the mods handle it?

-eric

On Nov 26, 2016, at 1:00 PM, rajmund wrote:

> 3 lists, this makes. protomail is easy to create
> 
> Sent fromThunderhbird
> 
> On 26/11/2016 06:09 PM, Shaf Patel wrote:
>> Forwareded from another group.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: [MediaReq] About Eden Kizer's scams
>> Date:Sat, 26 Nov 2016 12:48:57 -0500
>> From:Rebecca Sutton via MediaReq <media...@lists.mediareq.com>
>> Reply-To:Rebecca Sutton <rebecasut...@bell.net>
>> To:  Sarah Sans <sarah...@protonmail.com>
>> CC:  media...@lists.mediareq.com <media...@lists.mediareq.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> well I have talked to her and she is a person with a lot of problems.  I 
>> didn’t know that she would do something like that.  I was wondering did you 
>> buy the braille note yourself?  the only reason I’m asking is because a lot 
>> of people in canada are trying to sell things that they have gone from the 
>> government and over here it seems that people are just doing it to make some 
>> extra money for something that they haven’t purchased. I know however that 
>> in the u.s people often have to purchase their own equipment  and as you say 
>> it does cost a lot of money.  I can understand that you were trying to help 
>> her out but I suppose that being the kind of person she is she knew that she 
>> would be able to get away without paying for it because there would be 
>> nothing that you  could do to get the whole payment from her.  She used to 
>> work as a phone sex operator and she kept bragging about how much money she 
>> got paid for doing it.  So really she could afford to pay you the money.  I 
>> guess peo
> ple like that don’t want to buy them from maxi aids and other places like 
> that because they won’t be able to scam the workers at such organizations.  I 
> don’t know if you know hooper but he does similar things like that on a 
> regular basis.
>>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Sarah Sans via 
>>> MediaReq<media...@lists.mediareq.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> I was reading a thread on viphone where somebody else said that they were 
>>> scammed by an individual named Eden Kizer. I was one of those individuals 
>>> who was scammed by her.
>>> 
>>> Just over a year ago I advertised a BrailleNote braille display on 
>>> Blindbargains, and was contacted by somebody named Eden Kizer asking too 
>>> purchase it from me. I was selling it for $4000 and she said she couldn't 
>>> afford to pay for it all at once. She asked me if she could pay monthly 
>>> installments of $500 and, since I really wanted to sell it and thought she 
>>> would honor her word, I took the first payment of $500 and sent her the 
>>> BrailleNote. The BrailleNote was in excellent condition, had no scratches 
>>> or dents, had an excellent battery and came with all the accessories 
>>> including the carrying case.
>>> 
>>> I have yet to receive the rest of the payment for the BrailleNote (she owes 
>>> me $3500). I have previously attempted to call her about it, and rather 
>>> than talking about why she wouldn't pay the rest of the money she owes me 
>>> she decided to change her phone number. She also ignores my emails.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just want everybody to be aware of Eden's scams. I'm extremely upset that 
>>> she didn't pay me back in full for the BrailleNote I sold her and hope she 
>>> doesn't do the same to anybody else. I'd hate to know that other people 
>>> have also been scammed by her, although I'm sure she's done the same to 
>>> others. I was only trying to do her a favor by accepti

Re: iPhone questin and how to take that folder or some photos off of your iPhone

2016-10-09 Thread Eric Oyen
hmmm. I am running into a problem with this. there are some photos on my phone 
(which are also synced to my iCloud drive) and I am not being allowed to delete 
them. I have tried from the phone to select them in the photos app, only to be 
presented with a greyed out delete button. I have also tried via the web to get 
to my iCloud photos library directly, but there doesn't appear to be anything 
on there. Lastly, I can't seem to get the iCloud drive app in windows 7 to 
display anything either (presents me with empty folders, even though I know 
different). and iTunes isn't being very helpful on windows.

btw, I can't do a lot of this on my current mac as the OS is too old (plug in 
the phone and iTunes says that it gets an invalid response from the phone) and 
iCloud isn't available (because its the upgraded version not compatible with OS 
X Lion).

any help or suggestions I can use?

-eric

On Oct 9, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:

> Hi Casey,
> 
> You can't use your iPhone like a hard drive. You can go into settings then 
> camera and turn iCloud on and that should help you back up your photos to 
> iCloud. I believe there is an optimize storage thing in there also. I can't 
> remember exactly how it goes right now, but you can using WiFi to back up 
> your photos and only display certain ones I believe. Hope this helps a little 
> bit. If not, you will have to use iTunes. I know that is a bad word right 
> now. 
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 10:57 AM, Casey <cwoll...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi I have My iPhone connected to my computer and I would like to take my 
>> photos and copy that folder to my computer so I can take them off of my 
>> phone and make more room on my phone.
>> But I would still like to have the pictures folder with all of the pictures 
>> that I have taken up to the most latest one.
>> So how do I go about doing this?
>> I have connected the phone to my computer but I don't see it listed under my 
>> hard drives on my computer.
>> So what am I doing wrong or do I have to go threw iTunes to do this.
>> So any and all help is welcome.
>> 
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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
heheh. hey tony, thats one hell of a pet peeve. :)
yeah, you use the groups about the same way I do. they are supposed to be 
representing us, aren't they?

-eric

On Aug 25, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Tony wrote:

> Thank you for giving me the opportunity to point out the arrogance of people 
> like you who only want to condemn those of us who champion different causes.
>  
> Last week I was trying to select a funeral home to plan for my wife’s 
> upcoming demise.  One of the sites had less than adequate accessibility.  I 
> took the time to send them a not-so-nice complaint and request for the 
> missing information.
>  
> Within an hour I had the requested information despite that they would have 
> been justified to blow off my message because of the way it was worded.  It 
> was not crude, it was not screaming, but was not flattering.
>  
> When I visited them today, after we had completed our business, the owner 
> told me he had immediately contacted the company who maintains his site and 
> it was corrected the next day.
>  
> Unless NFB has changed their stance on guide dogs in the last fifteen years, 
> I would have to be suspicious of their attack on any dog school.  At that 
> time it was cane all the way.  People that took a dog to their office had to 
> leave it chained in the reception area.  I know one person who had his dog 
> removed from the building while he was talking to someone in another office.
>  
> I recently contacted NFB, ACB, and AFB for assistance when the state took my 
> grandchildren out of my home and said I could have them back when I cured my 
> blindness.  NFB sent information and called multiple times. AFB sent 
> information.  I am still waiting to hear from ACB, not.
>  
> Does that change my opinion of the groups? No.  I touched a sensitive spot 
> with NFB.  ACB may not be active in that area, the person responsible for 
> that area may have been on vacation, or that position may be vacant.  I did 
> not need, or expect top quality assistance from each group.  I got what I 
> needed.  Next time it may be from ACB.
>  
> I have personally assisted a number of people, including small children 
> obtain Social Security benefits.  I have assisted disabled servicemen and 
> women obtain their Veteran’s compensation benefits.  My wife and I have 
> assisted many to locate and obtain needed medical assistance.
>  
> Does that mean I am better than others on this list?  I think not.  I may 
> have more education than some, more experience than some, or more 
> opportunities to serve than some.  I have observed many blind people on these 
> lists provide hours helping others.  I know without a doubt that many provide 
> valuable and needed assistance in ways that you and I will never know.
>  
> This does not make us better than you or worse than you.  It may mean we are 
> more observant and seize more small opportunities to be of assistance.  
> Sometimes this includes being politely critical of people and groups that 
> appear to follow a narrow course in their advocacy while claiming to be 
> concerned on all fronts.
>  
> I have stated my opinion on the underlying subject of this thread in other 
> places.  Again thank you for the opportunity to get this pet peeve off my 
> chest.
>  
> Tony
>  
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Mário Navarro <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> you are of those  only has intelligence to criticize what others do for you 
> ...
> You should criticize less and work more for the cause of the blind and 
> accessibility.
> instead, you are those who are always waiting for others to do for you.
> NFB never done anything for you?
> read this and learn.
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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
and yet, the NFB passed a resolution specifically targeting Apple when apple 
was clearly the best in the field accessibility wise. I have far less issues 
with their OS (on the laptop or the iPhone) than I do with the windows machine 
(using jaws or NVDA or even narrator) At least when an app turns out to be 
inaccessible on an apple, it isn't apples fault (hell, they published the API 
for it), it's usually the vendor of the software who decided not to abide by a 
published API.

By comparison, Microsoft and their MSAA is a joke. They don't even pay 
attention to it half the time (witness windows 8 and 10 respectively). Now, it 
is true that the NFB has nagged them over the years to resolve this, but what 
it really took before MS would take this seriously was a lawsuit.

And as for google, their attitude toward us of late has been far less than 
stellar. Ever since they moved the company head ops to India, its been a 
nightmare. SOme of Googles tools are now so inaccessible that they cannot be 
used by a blind person on ANY platform (including their own). THere has also 
been a trend toward going back to some of the older schemes for keeping out 
bots, etc. These schemes, by their very nature, are completely inaccessible 
(like visual only capchas, etc.).

compared to those, apple has been the best performer accessibility wise. It is 
unfortunate that they rolled the accessibility testing division (voiceover) 
into the mainstream development cycle the way they did. It actually created a 
situation where accessibility now takes a back seat to overall OS development. 
An example of this is the nasty bug in the dictation routine that they have, so 
far, addressed.

Given all the above, the NFB proposal as passed smacks of a money grab. Sorry 
to be a wet blanket on those true believers, but thats my assessment.

anyway, I think this thread is now to the point of beating a dead horse, don't 
you think?

-eric

On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:

> After reading a few messages on this thread, I submit the following:
> To those that say that the NFB hasn't spoken against other major tech
> companies, like Microsoft, Google and Amazon: if you look back at the
> NFB resolutions since 2009, you will find around 20 passed that were
> directed either in praise or disappointment with accessibility
> products from Microsoft, Google and Amazon. Anyone recall all of the
> almost yearly resolutions and protests that the nFB made against
> Amazon over the Kindle line? Yes, that Kindle that many of you have on
> your desk and your enjoyment of its services, you can thank the NFB
> for access to that Kindle. The NFB has spoken up over other access
> issues, like the many Google apps, Microsoft services, and access
> issues from other companies like the Nook from Barnes & Noble. And how
> many resolutions were passed against Apple? Counting this year's: 4.
> Think what you will, but this has nothing to do with money. If it were
> about money, then the NFB would not have brought resolutions/lawsuits
> against Target, Google, or Microsoft, among others.
> 
> Regards,
> Wayne
> 
> On 8/25/16, Regina Alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well said Jonathan! I was not going to get into this fight. I have had some
>> issues also. However, I really understood what Jonathan was saying. I am
>> deeply grateful to Apple for putting a screen reader directly in its
>> operating system, but they truly can do better just as we all can. NFB only
>> pointed this out, and I, for one, hope next year is Android's turn along
>> with other things like nonaccessible web sites and other technology that has
>> not caught up. I have my own thoughts and issues with NFB, but they are
>> holding Apple's feet to the fire and hopefully will do the same for other
>> technology companies. Unfortunately, they have a past history of planting
>> their feet on one entity and stomping them. I know. I was there when they
>> went completely off the grid on a guide dog school which had problems which
>> its students were taking care of. This is another example, but a needed
>> statement too. Perhaps another technology user next year will take on the
>> writing of a resolution against Google or Microsoft or any number of tech
>> companies, and I sincerely hope NFB will pass it with as much gusto as this
>> one. I hope they are not protecting companies that give them money. However,
>> if this had anything to do with Apple making improvement, as a lot of beta
>> testers say, then I am happy.
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Mário Navarro <mario@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mary, my answer to you is:
>> read the post from Jonathan M

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
um, ok. now that you have devolved into the realm of personal insults…. It 
seems to me that you have now lost track of the actual conversation (and as a 
result, lost the argument).

I am not going to insult you or do something as inane as that. What I am going 
to offer is some advice: step back, calm down and take a chill pill.

Now, I believe the original intent of this thread was to point out the NFB 
resolution and how apple and their accessibility figure into this? can we get 
back on topic?

-eric

On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Mário Navarro wrote:

> 
>   sorry, but I'm not your doctor ...
> but I can see perfectly well that you need to change your medication.
> 
> Às 19:01 de 25/08/2016, Dave Mitchel escreveu:
>> excuse me? what do you mean by this statement? be careful what I write? 
>> would you explain this to myself and others on the list?
>> I will take into consideration that you may not understand this sort of 
>> thing could be perceived as a threat. so now please let me know what and how 
>> this was meant.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Mário Navarro
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> david, be careful what you write ...
>> it's just a advice ...
>> 
>> 
>> Às 17:46 de 25/08/2016, Dave Mitchel escreveu:
>>> you have no idea what others have done for themselves and for the blind 
>>> community. stop your gushing and learn when it is best to keep your mouth 
>>> shut.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Mário Navarro
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:08 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> you are of those  only has intelligence to criticize what others do for
>>> you ...
>>> You should criticize less and work more for the cause of the blind and
>>> accessibility.
>>> instead, you are those who are always waiting for others to do for you.
>>> NFB never done anything for you?
>>> read this and learn.
>>> 
>>> https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions
>>> 
>>> Às 16:46 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:
>>>> Two years in a row, and if he has had resolutions which specifically 
>>>> called out Apple. At the first of those conventions, they were calling 
>>>> Google and accessibility champion. Why doesn't NFB spend equal time on 
>>>> other companies, especially google, which is still behind Apple and 
>>>> someways, but they call them a champion? I say as I have said before and 
>>>> should probably stop saying, follow the money. Google sponsor their 
>>>> convention as a champion.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:13 AM, Dacia Cole <dacia.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
>>>>> convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
>>>>> about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
>>>>> what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dacia
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than I have
>>>>>> that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and this is
>>>>>> more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the
>>>>>> entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, all of
>>>>>> the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and
>>>>>> publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone heard.
>>>>>> For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was passed so
>>>>>> I can make up my own mind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:
>>>>>>> I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB
>>>>>>> conven

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Oyen
um. I beg to differ with that. there are times when the NFB (of which I am a 
member) makes decisions not based on facts, but simply as a means of getting 
attention. THis appears to be one of those times.

Also, apple is the only company that hasn't contributed to the fund that the 
others have. THis is why they got a free pass when apple didn't .

btw, the software engineer is correct. adding a feature (or fixing a bug) takes 
a lot of time, review of code, testing and more review. This is not a fast 
process and can sometimes take a year or more. would you rather have a good 
working device or go the "release early, release often" model that MS uses 
(often with disastrous results)?

Now, mind you, I am not a coder. I am an IT person with a specialization in 
security. I can tell you that planning proper security has many of the same 
problems in networks that planning and implementing features has in the OS 
world. Everything takes time and costs a hell of a lot of money.

My suggestion, especially for the higher ups at the NFB: quit whining and 
actually start helping out. that's what the technology section is for, isn't it?

-eric

On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:06 AM, Dacia Cole wrote:

> Thank you for the support of the NFB!!  I'm glad it has provided a
> better stable beta cycle.  No, we don't always make the most popular
> decisions, but we have the progress of all blind people in mind when
> we pass these resolutions.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Dacia
> 
> 
> On 8/25/16, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> To The Jay hawk Fan specifically and all members of the list in general,
>> 
>> Thank you, that was precisely my point.  Apple certainly is not perfect in
>> the accessibility realm, but other tech companies who have a history of not
>> caring in the least about accessibility seemingly get a free pass on this
>> issue!  I’m tremendously grateful for the commitment Apple has made to
>> accessibility and thought the actions of NFB to be disingenuous!
>> 
>> 
>> - Bill & Leader Dog Holland
>> - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure
>> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues."
>> - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)--
>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer
>>> <thejayhawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for not
>>> testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the voiceover
>>> software, yet no resolution called on any other technology company to even
>>> work to make their product. Fully accessible. I wonder if there is a
>>> little pettiness with the national Federation of the blind when it comes
>>> to Apple and truthfully, it makes me question the credibility of that
>>> organization when it comes to software and these topics.
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Re: capchas

2016-06-09 Thread Eric Oyen
there is a paid service called Rumola that works fairly nicely. It costs about 
$1 for a yearly subscription. It also works on most types of capchas (there are 
at least 3 types that I know of where this isn't the case).

-eric

On Jun 9, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rajmund wrote:

> Hi there,
> Is there an APP similar to Vebisom on windows, that will complete the 
> capchas, where it says type the number string in from the image above, and no 
> audio? Or any meverthods of doing it? Every and all suggestions are welcomed. 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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