Re: Setting Up FitBit using VoiceOver

[Katey Glass]

Hello There,

I’ve recently upgraded from my One to a Charge 2.  Now, I do have some limited 
vision, and have been using one sort of Fitbit or another since 2014.  

I used a magnifier to read the code from my Charge 2 when setting it up.  And 
like others have said there are some buttons that are not accessible, However, 
the app is for the most part accessible.  

I almost got an Apple Watch, but it’s hard to come up with that kind of mone!  
Plus, I have a lot of other people that I’ve been in challenges with so, I’d 
miss that! 

HTH
Katey 

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> On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:29 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> You do need your phone to use your FitBit, at least as a blind person. The 
> Charge HR does display the time, but since it doesn't talk itself, I can't 
> read the time off of my Charge HR as a blind person. I use the FitBit app 
> with Android now, but I don't see many unlabelled buttons, and I don't 
> remember the experience on the iPhone being any different.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 04/11/2018 10:17 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marie, and anyone else who can give me some information.
>> If zip it that you are using does it have a watch that included on it and do 
>> you need your phone to use the watch as far as I know the only real excess a 
>> bowl product is the Apple Watch I know that there are many unlabeled or on 
>> usable buttons on the fit bit app in less I do not know what I’m doing which 
>> is quite possible.
>> If you have any information can you please let me know. You can contact me 
>> off list and I will give you my email if you’re interested.
>> I am currently using a fit bit flex two.
>> Thank you very much.
>> Peggy
>> 
>> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:35 AM, marie  wrote:
>> 
>>> I use a Fitbit Alta HR, the only sighted help I needed to set it up was to 
>>> read the code to type.
>>> I find the application quite easy to use on my 5s.
>>> Hope this helps a bit, good luck!
>>> Marie
>>> 
 On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:50:01 PM UTC+2, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 I am considering a FitBit, and am wondering if I can set it up using 
 VoiceOver, or will I need sighted assistance. I get varying answers on 
 this, and am seeking other opinions. Are there other similar devices that 
 I should consider that are easier to set up or use with VoiceOver? Thanks 
 for any opinions. 
 
 Arnold Schmidt 
 
 
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Re: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.

[Katey Glass]

Unfortunately the only language that does that is Samantha.  All the rest of 
the English languages don't say Boys name Al as if it was the state of Alabama. 
  


Katey.   

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> On Dec 27, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I wrote Apple Accessibility about this earlier today.  I'd suggest everyone 
> who would like VoiceOver to stop guessing at abbreviations would write them 
> as well and ask them to either stop it completely or provide an exception 
> dictionary that we can use to fix pronunciations.
> Write to: accessibil...@apple.com
> \
> Looking at baseball, AL for American League, gets pronounced Alabama.
> Cal as a first name gets pronounced California and so on.
> 
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> M. Taylor
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> Subject: RE: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> Hello Kevin,
> 
> This happens to me, also.  
> 
> The other day, I was trying to locate a friend of mine in my contacts, whose 
> name is Al Jones.  I couldn’t find him until I realized that VoiceOver was 
> pronouncing his name as Alabama Jones.  I felt so stupid and then got a 
> little miffed at VoiceOver for trying to do too much.  
> 
> I wonder if there is a workaround for this?
> 
> (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kevin Minor
> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: I wish VoiceOver didn't try to pronounce what it thinks 
> abbriviations mean, but it can be humorous.
> 
> Hi.
> 
> I was in the NFL Mobile app on my iPhone 5C running the latest iOs.  I wanted 
> to hear the game between Arizona and Green Bay.  I got there, and was 
> selecting the feed I wanted.  The app gives you updates about who has the 
> ball, and where it is on the field.  They use abbreviations for the teams.  
> GB was used for Green Bay.  I was navigating through the info on the screen, 
> and was surprised to hear the ball was on the gigabytes 25.  I know whoever 
> is programming VoiceOver to give information means well, but I wish they’d 
> just let abbreviations say their letters.  VoiceOver isn’t the only one who 
> does this.  I never knew, for example about Hartford, Court, or my Physician 
> was Drive Johnson.  Oh well, it is humorous in a way, but there is sometimes 
> too much of a good thing.
> 
> Just thought I’d share this observation.
> 
> Have a good day, and don’t work too hard.
> 
> Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
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Re: facebook App and VO

[Katey Glass]

Yes, unfortunately.  

Katey.  

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> On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Liz And Sammie  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone noticed with the latest facebook update that when VO is reading a 
> status update that it loses focus and reads the tabs? 
> 
> 
> Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
> 
> 
> Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator 
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> http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
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Re: Seeking Comments on Using the Jawbone Up 24 Fitness Tracker and Join Me In Requesting Greater VoiceOver Accessibility

[Katey Glass]

Hello Mark,

Unfortunately, I cannot help you with the JawBone Up app, as like your friend I 
decided to go with the FitBit Flex because I'd heard it was voiceOver 
accessible.  I've used my Flex since June of last year and love it.  

Hope someone else can advise you.  

Katey

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 3:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> A couple of days ago I purchased the Jawbone Up 24 Fitness Tracker from the
> Apple Store.
> 
> Upon launching the Up app, I was somewhat disappointed to discover that the
> app is not comfortably VoiceOver accessible.  In my opinion, without sighted
> assistance, it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to even get
> the app setup properly.  
> 
> Even after setup, many of the app's most exciting feedback features are not
> VoiceOver accessible.  
> 
> Is anyone using this device? And if so, have you found many workarounds?
> Perhaps you use the device with a different app that works with the tracker,
> if so, please advise.  
> 
> It's funny, a friend of mine, who is also a VoiceOver user, tells me that
> the FitBit app is marvelously VoiceOver accessible and she uses it with her
> Fitbit Flex.  
> 
> As some of you may know, Apple stopped selling Fitbit a few days after it
> announced the iWatch. 
> 
> However, they continue to sell the Jawbone fitness tracking products.
> 
> In the meantime, I sent an email to Jawbone requesting VoiceOver
> accessibility.
> 
> Please join me in requesting that VoiceOver accessibility be added to the
> Jawbone Up app by sending an email to:
> mobilesupp...@jawbone.com
> 
> Thank you and I look forward to reading your replies.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: An iPhone 6 Plus, Running iOS 8.1.2, Bug I Just Reported To Apple

[Katey Glass]

I've seen this on my iPhone 6 plus and my iPad Air 2.  I've reported it as well 
as my zoom & voiceover bugs.  

Katey.  

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> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Kate Andrekson  wrote:
> 
> I have also seen this on my iPhone 6 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 4, 2015, at 8:03 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> The following is a bug I just reported to Apple via it's Bug Reporter
>> website.  
>> 
>> Perhaps some of you will find it interesting.
>> 
>> Oh, the Bug Reporter website is for those who are registered as Apple
>> Developers.  
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Begin Bug Report:
>> 
>> Title:
>> VoiceOver Corrupting Keyboard Auto-Rotation on 6 Plus Spotlight Search
>> 
>> Description:
>> On either a new iPhone 6 Plus or an iPhone 6 Plus that has been reset, the
>> native keyboard will auto-rotate to landscape orientation when performing a
>> Spotlight search.
>> 
>> However, once VoiceOver has been enabled, regardless of being  subsequently
>> disabled, the native keyboard will no longer auto-rotate to landscape
>> orientation when performing a Spotlight search.
>> 
>> I have verified this behavior on the T-Mobile, AT&T Wireless, Sprint, and
>> Verizon Wireless versions of the iPhone 6 Plus.
>> 
>> Steps to Reproduce: List the step by step process to reproduce the issue
>> 1.
>> Make sure that auto-rotation is enabled.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Set the phone to Standard View.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Make sure the phone is in portrait orientation.
>> 
>> 4.
>> From the Springboard, open Spotlight
>> 
>> 5.
>> Turn the phone to landscape orientation.  
>> 
>> Expected Results: Describe what you expected to see
>> I expect to see both the results list and the native keyboard to have
>> auto-rotated to landscape orientation.
>> 
>> Actual Results: Describe what you actually saw
>> While the results list will auto-rotate, the native keyboard will not.
>> 
>> End Bug Report
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Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

Hello Todd, 

After 2 days of playing phone tag with Zack, we were able to have an 
interesting discussion last night.  It seems as if this is in fact a new bug in 
iOS 8!!!I would encourage you to let them know if you haven't already.  If 
you have you & I are a part of a small number of people who have reported this 
bug.  

I'm really impressed with the length Zack went to to replicate this bug!   I 
told him I thought it was a connection between Zoom & VoiceOver which only 
started after iOS 8.  As the two worked well and as expected in iOS 7.  I'd 
never updated my old iPad and don't use my iPhone 6 Plus in landscape mode so 
hadn't tried it until I noticed that the same thing happened on both devices.  

With this information Zack tried turning on zoom & Voiceover at home on his 
personal iPad that was running iOS 7 and it worked as it used to.  He then did 
the same thing on his wife's iPad running a later version of 7 and it worked as 
it should.  

He went back to work & tried it on a number of devices running iOS 8 and there 
was the dreaded problem!!!   With Zoom and VoiceOver the bug was there!  He 
then went to talk to some engineers who did the same thing on a number of 
devices and they all saw it!   

As I said I encourage you to report this bug!   He said a small number of 
people have reported it but because he cared enough about it and brought it to 
keep people's attention they are escalating the priority of this issue!!!   He 
also has said he'll be in touch with me in the future and he likes building 
relationships with people.   So he encouraged me to keep his information and 
report other issues to him.  He also told me I was excellent at isolating the 
issue.  As I said only a tiny number of people reported this, 37!   So 
normally this bug would be last on the list but it's being given priority since 
it worked so well before.  

Unfortunately for now those of us who use zoom & voiceover have to use them one 
at a time!   

Katey.  

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> On Dec 30, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
> Katey,
> 
> Sorry I'm coming in on this late but I experienced the same issue with the 3 
> finger swipe when in horizontal orientation if Zoom is enabled.  Trying to 
> scroll through a list of items is impossible but works in portrait 
> orientation.  Turning Zoom off fixes the issue for me, which is a pain since 
> then if I need to zoom I have to turn VO off and use standard pinch to zoom.  
> This seems to have started with iOS 8 for me.
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> Funny you'd say that!   Zack called me back, he's going to work with me 
>> tomorrow to see if that's the problem.  He did agree that they have 
>> conflicting  jesters.  Plus he wants me to take pictures of my devices when 
>> the spotlight keyboard is on the side.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Katey.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Dec 28, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> >
>> > VO and Zoom really do not work very well together.
>> > For one, many of the gestures are different for VO if Zoom is running.
>> >
>> > I'd recommend just using VO and save yourself the headache of dealing with 
>> > them together.
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> > Of Katey Glass
>> > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 3:19 PM
>> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>> >
>> > I set up my iPad Air
>> > 2 as a new device and when I only had VO running it allows me to swipe 
>> > home pages in both landscape and portrait modes.   But as soon as I add 
>> > Zoom and have it running with VO the odd behavior starts again where 
>> > swiping only works in landscape mode.   I tested it on my iPhone 6+ and 
>> > when I turned off zoom and only voiceover was running it worked 
>> > perfectly!!!  So It appears to be a VO  & Zoom conflict.  I'm waiting for 
>> > zack to call me back.  If he doesn't in a little bit I may call and let 
>> > someone else help.  As I didn't get a case number.
>> >
>> > Any other VO & zoom users?
>> >
>> > Katey.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> >> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well we
>> >> Hen Zac set the fingerprint on an iPad Air 2 it worked both ways for him. 
>> >>

Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

Funny you'd say that!   Zack called me back, he's going to work with me 
tomorrow to see if that's the problem.  He did agree that they have conflicting 
 jesters.  Plus he wants me to take pictures of my devices when the spotlight 
keyboard is on the side.  

Thanks, 

Katey.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> VO and Zoom really do not work very well together.
> For one, many of the gestures are different for VO if Zoom is running.
> 
> I'd recommend just using VO and save yourself the headache of dealing with 
> them together.
> 
> Good luck,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Katey Glass
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 3:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
> 
> I set up my iPad Air 
> 2 as a new device and when I only had VO running it allows me to swipe home 
> pages in both landscape and portrait modes.   But as soon as I add Zoom and 
> have it running with VO the odd behavior starts again where swiping only 
> works in landscape mode.   I tested it on my iPhone 6+ and when I turned off 
> zoom and only voiceover was running it worked perfectly!!!  So It appears to 
> be a VO  & Zoom conflict.  I'm waiting for zack to call me back.  If he 
> doesn't in a little bit I may call and let someone else help.  As I didn't 
> get a case number.  
> 
> Any other VO & zoom users?   
> 
> Katey.  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> Well we
>> Hen Zac set the fingerprint on an iPad Air 2 it worked both ways for him.  
>> Looks like I have to set it up as a new device.  Yuck!!!
>> 
>> Katey. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes I am.  I reset all my accessibility settings and passcode & fingerprint 
>>> then tried the 3 finger swipe only to see it was locked to landscape!   So 
>>> somehow when I set my fingerprint is how it will be locked for use.  Right 
>>> now I'm on the phone with apple Accessibility to see if they can reproduce 
>>> the problem.  
>>> 
>>> Ad it seems as if it gets locked in the way the fingerprint was set in.  
>>> 
>>> Katey.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, are you saying that the keyboard shows up as if it were portrait?  So, 
>>>> when you have it landscaped, the keyboard is on the short side so you have 
>>>> to turn it portrait to use the spotlight search?
>>>> 
>>>> That seems rather strange indeed.
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Katey Glass
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 10:26 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I did a reset of my settings and it solved part of my problem!   I 
>>>> can now use the 3 finger jesture to switch between home screens in 
>>>> landscape mode. It also let's me scroll web pages & email in landscape 
>>>> mode as well.  The only strange thing is the keyboard for spotlight view 
>>>> still shows up on the right sideways!!!  Both with VO on & off.  
>>>> 
>>>> All I need to do is reset all my settings back to how I like them but no 
>>>> data was lost!   Wonder if it would help some slightly odd behaviour I see 
>>>> on my 6+?  
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks 
>>>> 
>>>> Katey.  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I'd do a factory reset and if you can consistently reproduce the 
>>>>> issue where the virtual keyboard shows up sideways when you turn the 
>>>>> iPad, then it's quite likely that the or whatever hardware is used to 
>>>>> determine the orientation is faulty and it should be replaced.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Katey Glass
>>>>>

Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

I set up my iPad Air 
2 as a new device and when I only had VO running it allows me to swipe home 
pages in both landscape and portrait modes.   But as soon as I add Zoom and 
have it running with VO the odd behavior starts again where swiping only works 
in landscape mode.   I tested it on my iPhone 6+ and when I turned off zoom and 
only voiceover was running it worked perfectly!!!  So It appears to be a VO  & 
Zoom conflict.  I'm waiting for zack to call me back.  If he doesn't in a 
little bit I may call and let someone else help.  As I didn't get a case 
number.  

Any other VO & zoom users?   

Katey.  


Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
> 
> Well we
> Hen Zac set the fingerprint on an iPad Air 2 it worked both ways for him.  
> Looks like I have to set it up as a new device.  Yuck!!!
> 
> Katey. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I am.  I reset all my accessibility settings and passcode & fingerprint 
>> then tried the 3 finger swipe only to see it was locked to landscape!   So 
>> somehow when I set my fingerprint is how it will be locked for use.  Right 
>> now I'm on the phone with apple Accessibility to see if they can reproduce 
>> the problem.  
>> 
>> Ad it seems as if it gets locked in the way the fingerprint was set in.  
>> 
>> Katey.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, are you saying that the keyboard shows up as if it were portrait?  So, 
>>> when you have it landscaped, the keyboard is on the short side so you have 
>>> to turn it portrait to use the spotlight search?
>>> 
>>> That seems rather strange indeed.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Katey Glass
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 10:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>>> 
>>> Well, I did a reset of my settings and it solved part of my problem!   I 
>>> can now use the 3 finger jesture to switch between home screens in 
>>> landscape mode. It also let's me scroll web pages & email in landscape mode 
>>> as well.  The only strange thing is the keyboard for spotlight view still 
>>> shows up on the right sideways!!!  Both with VO on & off.  
>>> 
>>> All I need to do is reset all my settings back to how I like them but no 
>>> data was lost!   Wonder if it would help some slightly odd behaviour I see 
>>> on my 6+?  
>>> 
>>> Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Katey.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, I'd do a factory reset and if you can consistently reproduce the 
>>>> issue where the virtual keyboard shows up sideways when you turn the iPad, 
>>>> then it's quite likely that the or whatever hardware is used to determine 
>>>> the orientation is faulty and it should be replaced.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Katey Glass
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 9:52 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>>>> 
>>>> No it's not.  I thought the same.  So I checked. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks 
>>>> 
>>>> Katey 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds like orientation is locked to portrait.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Katey Glass
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 8:56 PM
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess I'm the only one who's seen this behavior on the iPad after a 
>>>>> restore?   Well, I also found the same thing happens when I turn my 
>>>>> iPhone 6+ into landscape mode it acts the same way.  I may call Apple 
>>>>> Accessability to see if they've heard of this.  
>>>&g

Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

Well we
Hen Zac set the fingerprint on an iPad Air 2 it worked both ways for him.  
Looks like I have to set it up as a new device.  Yuck!!!

Katey. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
> 
> Yes I am.  I reset all my accessibility settings and passcode & fingerprint 
> then tried the 3 finger swipe only to see it was locked to landscape!   So 
> somehow when I set my fingerprint is how it will be locked for use.  Right 
> now I'm on the phone with apple Accessibility to see if they can reproduce 
> the problem.  
> 
> Ad it seems as if it gets locked in the way the fingerprint was set in.  
> 
> Katey.  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> 
>> So, are you saying that the keyboard shows up as if it were portrait?  So, 
>> when you have it landscaped, the keyboard is on the short side so you have 
>> to turn it portrait to use the spotlight search?
>> 
>> That seems rather strange indeed.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Katey Glass
>> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 10:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>> 
>> Well, I did a reset of my settings and it solved part of my problem!   I can 
>> now use the 3 finger jesture to switch between home screens in landscape 
>> mode. It also let's me scroll web pages & email in landscape mode as well.  
>> The only strange thing is the keyboard for spotlight view still shows up on 
>> the right sideways!!!  Both with VO on & off.  
>> 
>> All I need to do is reset all my settings back to how I like them but no 
>> data was lost!   Wonder if it would help some slightly odd behaviour I see 
>> on my 6+?  
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Katey.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I'd do a factory reset and if you can consistently reproduce the 
>>> issue where the virtual keyboard shows up sideways when you turn the iPad, 
>>> then it's quite likely that the or whatever hardware is used to determine 
>>> the orientation is faulty and it should be replaced.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Katey Glass
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 9:52 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>>> 
>>> No it's not.  I thought the same.  So I checked. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Katey 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds like orientation is locked to portrait.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Katey Glass
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 8:56 PM
>>>> To: 
>>>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I'm the only one who's seen this behavior on the iPad after a 
>>>> restore?   Well, I also found the same thing happens when I turn my iPhone 
>>>> 6+ into landscape mode it acts the same way.  I may call Apple 
>>>> Accessability to see if they've heard of this.  
>>>> 
>>>> Btw when I was in an Apple Store I tried an iPad Air 2 in landscape mode 
>>>> and it acted fine.  Wonder if resetting all my settings would fix it.  
>>>> Also I noticed  when I try to use the spotlight search in landscape mode 
>>>> the keyboard is at the right side sideways like it's in portrait mode!!!   
>>>> My fiancé's doesn't do this.  This happens weather voiceover is on or not. 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I also found I can't scroll in web pages in landscape mode.  Does anyone 
>>>> have any suggestions as to why this is happening?   Any suggestions would 
>>>> be appreciated.  
>>>> 
>>>> Katey.  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder if I should just do a fresh install?  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Katey.  
>>>>> 
>>

Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

Yes I am.  I reset all my accessibility settings and passcode & fingerprint 
then tried the 3 finger swipe only to see it was locked to landscape!   So 
somehow when I set my fingerprint is how it will be locked for use.  Right now 
I'm on the phone with apple Accessibility to see if they can reproduce the 
problem.  

Ad it seems as if it gets locked in the way the fingerprint was set in.  

Katey.  

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> So, are you saying that the keyboard shows up as if it were portrait?  So, 
> when you have it landscaped, the keyboard is on the short side so you have to 
> turn it portrait to use the spotlight search?
> 
> That seems rather strange indeed.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Katey Glass
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 10:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
> 
> Well, I did a reset of my settings and it solved part of my problem!   I can 
> now use the 3 finger jesture to switch between home screens in landscape 
> mode. It also let's me scroll web pages & email in landscape mode as well.  
> The only strange thing is the keyboard for spotlight view still shows up on 
> the right sideways!!!  Both with VO on & off.  
> 
> All I need to do is reset all my settings back to how I like them but no data 
> was lost!   Wonder if it would help some slightly odd behaviour I see on my 
> 6+?  
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Katey.  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Well, I'd do a factory reset and if you can consistently reproduce the issue 
>> where the virtual keyboard shows up sideways when you turn the iPad, then 
>> it's quite likely that the or whatever hardware is used to determine the 
>> orientation is faulty and it should be replaced.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Katey Glass
>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 9:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>> 
>> No it's not.  I thought the same.  So I checked. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Katey 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like orientation is locked to portrait.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Katey Glass
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 8:56 PM
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>>> 
>>> I guess I'm the only one who's seen this behavior on the iPad after a 
>>> restore?   Well, I also found the same thing happens when I turn my iPhone 
>>> 6+ into landscape mode it acts the same way.  I may call Apple 
>>> Accessability to see if they've heard of this.  
>>> 
>>> Btw when I was in an Apple Store I tried an iPad Air 2 in landscape mode 
>>> and it acted fine.  Wonder if resetting all my settings would fix it.  Also 
>>> I noticed  when I try to use the spotlight search in landscape mode the 
>>> keyboard is at the right side sideways like it's in portrait mode!!!   My 
>>> fiancé's doesn't do this.  This happens weather voiceover is on or not.  
>>> 
>>> I also found I can't scroll in web pages in landscape mode.  Does anyone 
>>> have any suggestions as to why this is happening?   Any suggestions would 
>>> be appreciated.  
>>> 
>>> Katey.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if I should just do a fresh install?  
>>>> 
>>>> Katey.  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good evening, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just got a new iPad Air 2 and did a restore from my 3rd Gen iPad now 
>>>>> when I put it into landscape mode I cannot do a 3 finger swipe between 
>>>>> pages or a 3 finger swipe up and down my email list.   However when it's 
>>>>> in portrait mode the. 3 finger swipe does what t should.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this because I hadn't updated my 3 rd gen iPad? Or some other 

Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

Well, I did a reset of my settings and it solved part of my problem!   I can 
now use the 3 finger jesture to switch between home screens in landscape mode. 
It also let's me scroll web pages & email in landscape mode as well.  The only 
strange thing is the keyboard for spotlight view still shows up on the right 
sideways!!!  Both with VO on & off.  

All I need to do is reset all my settings back to how I like them but no data 
was lost!   Wonder if it would help some slightly odd behaviour I see on my 6+? 
 

Thanks 

Katey.  

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Well, I'd do a factory reset and if you can consistently reproduce the issue 
> where the virtual keyboard shows up sideways when you turn the iPad, then 
> it's quite likely that the or whatever hardware is used to determine the 
> orientation is faulty and it should be replaced.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Katey Glass
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 9:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
> 
> No it's not.  I thought the same.  So I checked. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Katey 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like orientation is locked to portrait.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Katey Glass
>> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 8:56 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
>> 
>> I guess I'm the only one who's seen this behavior on the iPad after a 
>> restore?   Well, I also found the same thing happens when I turn my iPhone 
>> 6+ into landscape mode it acts the same way.  I may call Apple Accessability 
>> to see if they've heard of this.  
>> 
>> Btw when I was in an Apple Store I tried an iPad Air 2 in landscape mode and 
>> it acted fine.  Wonder if resetting all my settings would fix it.  Also I 
>> noticed  when I try to use the spotlight search in landscape mode the 
>> keyboard is at the right side sideways like it's in portrait mode!!!   My 
>> fiancé's doesn't do this.  This happens weather voiceover is on or not.  
>> 
>> I also found I can't scroll in web pages in landscape mode.  Does anyone 
>> have any suggestions as to why this is happening?   Any suggestions would be 
>> appreciated.  
>> 
>> Katey.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wonder if I should just do a fresh install?  
>>> 
>>> Katey.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good evening, 
>>>> 
>>>> I just got a new iPad Air 2 and did a restore from my 3rd Gen iPad now 
>>>> when I put it into landscape mode I cannot do a 3 finger swipe between 
>>>> pages or a 3 finger swipe up and down my email list.   However when it's 
>>>> in portrait mode the. 3 finger swipe does what t should.  
>>>> 
>>>> Is this because I hadn't updated my 3 rd gen iPad? Or some other 
>>>> corruption from my iCloud backup??? 
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks, 
>>>> 
>>>> Katey.   
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

No it's not.  I thought the same.  So I checked. 

Thanks 

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 28, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Sounds like orientation is locked to portrait.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Katey Glass
> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 8:56 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: New iPad Air 2
> 
> I guess I'm the only one who's seen this behavior on the iPad after a 
> restore?   Well, I also found the same thing happens when I turn my iPhone 6+ 
> into landscape mode it acts the same way.  I may call Apple Accessability to 
> see if they've heard of this.  
> 
> Btw when I was in an Apple Store I tried an iPad Air 2 in landscape mode and 
> it acted fine.  Wonder if resetting all my settings would fix it.  Also I 
> noticed  when I try to use the spotlight search in landscape mode the 
> keyboard is at the right side sideways like it's in portrait mode!!!   My 
> fiancé's doesn't do this.  This happens weather voiceover is on or not.  
> 
> I also found I can't scroll in web pages in landscape mode.  Does anyone have 
> any suggestions as to why this is happening?   Any suggestions would be 
> appreciated.  
> 
> Katey.  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if I should just do a fresh install?  
>> 
>> Katey.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good evening, 
>>> 
>>> I just got a new iPad Air 2 and did a restore from my 3rd Gen iPad now when 
>>> I put it into landscape mode I cannot do a 3 finger swipe between pages or 
>>> a 3 finger swipe up and down my email list.   However when it's in portrait 
>>> mode the. 3 finger swipe does what t should.  
>>> 
>>> Is this because I hadn't updated my 3 rd gen iPad? Or some other corruption 
>>> from my iCloud backup??? 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks, 
>>> 
>>> Katey.   
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

I guess I'm the only one who's seen this behavior on the iPad after a restore?  
 Well, I also found the same thing happens when I turn my iPhone 6+ into 
landscape mode it acts the same way.  I may call Apple Accessability to see if 
they've heard of this.  

Btw when I was in an Apple Store I tried an iPad Air 2 in landscape mode and it 
acted fine.  Wonder if resetting all my settings would fix it.  Also I noticed  
when I try to use the spotlight search in landscape mode the keyboard is at the 
right side sideways like it's in portrait mode!!!   My fiancé's doesn't do 
this.  This happens weather voiceover is on or not.  

I also found I can't scroll in web pages in landscape mode.  Does anyone have 
any suggestions as to why this is happening?   Any suggestions would be 
appreciated.  

Katey.  

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if I should just do a fresh install?  
> 
> Katey.  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening, 
>> 
>> I just got a new iPad Air 2 and did a restore from my 3rd Gen iPad now when 
>> I put it into landscape mode I cannot do a 3 finger swipe between pages or a 
>> 3 finger swipe up and down my email list.   However when it's in portrait 
>> mode the. 3 finger swipe does what t should.  
>> 
>> Is this because I hadn't updated my 3 rd gen iPad? Or some other corruption 
>> from my iCloud backup??? 
>> 
>> Many thanks, 
>> 
>> Katey.   
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad

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Re: New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

I wonder if I should just do a fresh install?  

Katey.  

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 27, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
> 
> Good evening, 
> 
> I just got a new iPad Air 2 and did a restore from my 3rd Gen iPad now when I 
> put it into landscape mode I cannot do a 3 finger swipe between pages or a 3 
> finger swipe up and down my email list.   However when it's in portrait mode 
> the. 3 finger swipe does what t should.  
> 
> Is this because I hadn't updated my 3 rd gen iPad? Or some other corruption 
> from my iCloud backup??? 
> 
> Many thanks, 
> 
> Katey.   
> 
> Sent from my iPad

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New iPad Air 2

[Katey Glass]

Good evening, 

I just got a new iPad Air 2 and did a restore from my 3rd Gen iPad now when I 
put it into landscape mode I cannot do a 3 finger swipe between pages or a 3 
finger swipe up and down my email list.   However when it's in portrait mode 
the. 3 finger swipe does what t should.  

Is this because I hadn't updated my 3 rd gen iPad? Or some other corruption 
from my iCloud backup??? 

Many thanks, 

Katey.   

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Re: 6+

[Katey Glass]

Good Evening,

My fiance and I just upgraded this weekend from iPhone 5s's to the 6 Plus.  
Right now we are "getting used" to the phones.  I really haven't talked on the 
phone without using a headset, he has, he thinks it feels weird.  

I like the size as I am a VO user primarily but can use my vision and zoom on 
occation so I do like that!  However, I'm not sure about the size overall.  It 
doesn't fit in my pockets like my smaller phone, I know "duh!" but I guess I 
didn't realize how BIG it really is.  

Perhapse, the case I have is also adding some bulk, as it's a "wallet" style so 
I ordered a TPU case which is similar to my old one on my 5s.  We'll see.  

Plus I'm still getting used to the overall size!  How long does it take to get 
used to that?  

We are both thinking of maybe going to the 6.  Gee, I would have never thought 
I'd have thought the phone would be too big!  

Katey 

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> On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> Also, might help some, but if you are low vision, and don't care about the 
> extra row, there is a setting in settings>display>mode, that lets one select 
> zoomed mode, you're then shown an example, then at the top right a button to 
> set zoomed if you choose that. This will then reboot the phone, and you'll 
> only have 5 rows per page, but with bigger icons.  
> 
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>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> You get an extra row of apps on both the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. However,
>> there is probably more space visually between the apps on the 6 Plus.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 12/8/14, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> Yes, you get an extra row of apps on the 6+.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 8 Dec 2014, at 19:32, Robin Frost  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Perhaps someone wiser can correct me if I'm wrong but yes I do believe you
 get an extra row of apps per screen with the 6 plus. So it jumps from 20
 to 24 I believe it is.
 I hope that helps.
 Robin
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Matt Moran
 Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 6:07 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: 6+
 
 Hi Jenn,
 
 Can you put more apps on the page instead of 20?
 
 Please write back.
 
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Re: notification center

[Katey Glass]

A rare bug indeed!  I  guess its not worth my trying to reset all settings if 
it may not fix it.  I guess what I'll do is continue to clear the Notification 
center with my vision and a magnifier.  I'll write to apple accessibility as I 
realize this is not the optimal solution and not one a totally blind person 
could use.  

As stated my phone was able to do this prior to iOS 8.1 which is when I updated 
my iPhone 5s.  

Katey 

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> On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:11 AM, "Tom Rash"  wrote:
> 
> I had this problem too.  It apparently was very rare because not many peopl
> were experiencing this problem.  After 8.1.1, I can now use the tripple tap
> on the confirm clear section successfully. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 9:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: notification center
> 
> Nope I cannot clear the notifications in my notification center since
> updating to iOS 8.1.1 I used to be able in iOS 7.1.2.  In order to do it I
> must turn off VO & use my residual vision to accomplish this.  
> 
> Yes I've rebooted the phone several times and also done a hard reset.  Any
> other suggestions?  
> 
> Many Thanks,
> 
> Katey 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No luck. Oh well.
>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You should be able to clear notifications by either doing a double tap
> where it says "Confirm clear section" and then do a second double tap or for
> most people a fast 1-finger triple tap will work to clear each section.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:20 AM
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>>> Subject: notification center
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> I cannot clear notifications in the notification center running v 8.1. Is
> it just me?
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Re: notification center

[Katey Glass]

will you have to put all your apps back into folders?  I have a lot of folders 
with apps in them?  

Thanks.  

Katey 

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> On Nov 29, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> The only thing that worked for me was to go to Settings, General, reset all 
> settings. This won't delete any of your data. If you do this, you'll have to 
> reset your Voiceover settings and re-configure iCloud keychain.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and seeing with 
> the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> Nope I cannot clear the notifications in my notification center since 
>> updating to iOS 8.1.1 I used to be able in iOS 7.1.2.  In order to do it I 
>> must turn off VO & use my residual vision to accomplish this.  
>> 
>> Yes I've rebooted the phone several times and also done a hard reset.  Any 
>> other suggestions?  
>> 
>> Many Thanks,
>> 
>> Katey 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No luck. Oh well.
>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You should be able to clear notifications by either doing a double tap 
>>>> where it says "Confirm clear section" and then do a second double tap or 
>>>> for most people a fast 1-finger triple tap will work to clear each section.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
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>>>> Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:20 AM
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>>>> Subject: notification center
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>>>> Hi:
>>>> I cannot clear notifications in the notification center running v 8.1. Is 
>>>> it just me?
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Re: notification center

[Katey Glass]

Nope I cannot clear the notifications in my notification center since updating 
to iOS 8.1.1 I used to be able in iOS 7.1.2.  In order to do it I must turn off 
VO & use my residual vision to accomplish this.  

Yes I've rebooted the phone several times and also done a hard reset.  Any 
other suggestions?  

Many Thanks,

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 18, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> No luck. Oh well.
>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> You should be able to clear notifications by either doing a double tap where 
>> it says "Confirm clear section" and then do a second double tap or for most 
>> people a fast 1-finger triple tap will work to clear each section.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>> Hi:
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>> just me?
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Re: AccessWorld App Problem

[Katey Glass]

Like Anna,

On my IPhone 5s running iOS 8.1 when I open the AFB AccessWorld app I see the 
February 2014 issue.  I usually read the monthly issues through the website and 
can't remember when I used the app last.  Interesting findings.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 9, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The last issue I could see was February, and after I reinstalled, it crashes 
> when I try to open it. My guess is that it can see the last issue you looked 
> at before the problem occurred. Maybe those who can see the October issue 
> used the app more recently than those who can only see older issues.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2014, at 9:09 AM, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting, mine has the October issue.  The only thing I found, using my 
>> ipad mini, I don’t have the option to install it.  I have it on my ipod 
>> touch.
>> 
>> From: Les Kriegler
>> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 1:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: AccessWorld App Problem
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> I'm not having difficulty loading content, however, the last issue I see is 
>> from June of this year. Rather surprising. I wonder what is going on.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I upgraded to an iPhone 6 about a week ago and am in the process of 
>>> reinstalling a number of apps that I had on my 5S.  One of those apps is 
>>> AccessWorld from AFB.  After installing it, I've noticed that it will try 
>>> to load content, then kick me back out to the home screen.  I've 
>>> uninstalled and reinstalled it twice, and rebooted the phone, but the app 
>>> still misbehaves.  Has anyone else noticed this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Tom
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Re: Intermittent problems with Speaking Notifications on the locked screen

[Katey Glass]

I have to agree, I have my iPhone 5s to not read lock screen and it does 
occasionally.  This is quite annoying as when on iOS 7.1.2 all it said was One 
Notification (or how many were on the lock screen when the new notification 
came in.  

I do not want my phone reading my lock screen, I did wait to update to iOS 8.1 
as I knew that there were lots more problems with iOS 8.0.  

Does anyone know of a fix, other than muting speech or turning off voice over?  

Katey 

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> On Nov 4, 2014, at 1:01 PM, "Debbie Downey"  wrote:
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> Thanks Jerry and Davy,
>  
> I guess I’ll have to write to Apple Accessibility as well! It’s always 
> something! So far that’s the only issue I’m having for the things that I use 
> my phone for. Compared to what the 8.0 was like though; I guess that isn’t 
> bad! I thought I waited long enough to upgrade but I guess not?
> 
>  
> Debbie
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Davy Cuppens
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> screen
>  
> Dear Debbie
>  
> This is one of the reasons why I am still reluctant to update my iphone. It 
> is a known ios8 bug. When this and the focus bug are resolved I’ll eventually 
> update my iphone 5s, you are doing nothing wrong.
> Regards
> Davy
>  
> From: Debbie Downey
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Intermittent problems with Speaking Notifications on the locked 
> screen
>  
> HI all,
>  
> I am using an IPhone 5S with IOS 8.1 and am experiencing intermittent 
> problems with my notifications not always being read to me when my screen is 
> locked. Sometimes it reads them and other times it just gives me the time and 
> if I want to read the notification I have to flick to the right.
>  
> I’ve got speak notifications always turned on and each of my notifications is 
> set to allow notifications on and show on locked screen on.
>  
> Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? Like I said, it’s intermittent; 
> one of those things that’s hard to diagnose.
>  
> Thank you!
>  
> Debbie 
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Re: Having both the high-quality voice and Alex in iOS eight

[Katey Glass]

I was able to switch Alex and Samantha, Samantha is my default and Alex is in 
the rotor. Now my incoming messages are not read out on the lock screen, it 
only says "incoming message" as it  did on iOS 7.1.2 and on my iPad.  So I 
guess switching Alex and Samantha had an effect, unless they are read out 
randomly.  

Thanks,

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard and Katey,
>  
> As I just described, you can set Samantha as the default language and Alex as 
> an additional language when you add US English, but you can also do it the 
> other way around, either way works.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Katey Glass
> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Having both the high-quality voice and Alex in iOS eight
>  
> On my iPhone 5s I have Alex as the default and Samantha in the language 
> rotor.  Is there a way to switch this or does it really matter?  
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Katey 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Oct 25, 2014, at 8:36 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> I was just experimenting with those settings and ended up with them both as 
> Alex.
> I then figured out how to get back to having Samantha as one of those, but 
> whether this is going to make sense is yet to be determined.
> Go into the speech settings and go to the rotor languages and double tap on 
> the more info button on English US.
> Then, double tap the enhanced quality using 156 MB.
> Then, go back to the default dialect settings and double tap on Alex using 
> 869 MB.
>  
> Then see if that changes what is on the rotor.
> If not, set the default to 156 and hopefully that will get you Samantha, and 
> set the other as Alex.
> It was some combination of those steps that got me back to having both.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
> The only limits are those of vision.
> 
>  
> 
> 🐉
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>  
> 
> On Oct 25, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> No, not exactly. I have US English in the rotor. I also have default language 
> as US English. But both of those are set to Alex. What I would like to have 
> is one said to Alex and the other one set to the high-quality Samantha voice. 
> I think I had that at one point, and then somehow screwed it up. I hope that 
> makes sense.
> Mary
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Oct 25, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Go into the speech settings and add US as one of the roter languages. Is that 
> what you mean?
> Richard
>  
>  
> The only limits are those of vision.
> 
>  
> 
> 🐉
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
>  
> 
> On Oct 25, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have just installed iOS 8.1 on my iPad mini retina. I have the Alex voice 
> installed. Somehow, I managed to set Alex as my default language and also my 
> US English language. I would like to retain Samantha as one of those two 
> positions. Shirley, I am overlooking something stupid and easy. But I can't 
> find it. How can I have both Samantha and Alex available as US English 
> choices, one being the default and the otherbeing the US English choice?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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iOS 8.1 and 3rd Gen IPad

[Katey Glass]

Good Evening,

I was wondering if updating a 3rd Gen IPad was OK?  I just did my iPhone 5s and 
so far am liking it, only bug that seems to be is that despite my setting being 
correct to not read alerts in the lock screen, they are.  

I wonder if this has something to do with the fact I downloaded Alex?  Also, 
should he be my default voice?  It appears that I cannot have Samantha as my 
default and Alex in the rotor, He has to be the default.  I wish Samantha could 
be the default and Alex be one of my choices in the rotor.

Looking forward to your thoughts.  

Katey 

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Re: Having both the high-quality voice and Alex in iOS eight

[Katey Glass]

On my iPhone 5s I have Alex as the default and Samantha in the language rotor.  
Is there a way to switch this or does it really matter?  

Thanks,

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 25, 2014, at 8:36 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> I was just experimenting with those settings and ended up with them both as 
> Alex.
> I then figured out how to get back to having Samantha as one of those, but 
> whether this is going to make sense is yet to be determined.
> Go into the speech settings and go to the rotor languages and double tap on 
> the more info button on English US.
> Then, double tap the enhanced quality using 156 MB.
> Then, go back to the default dialect settings and double tap on Alex using 
> 869 MB.
> 
> Then see if that changes what is on the rotor.
> If not, set the default to 156 and hopefully that will get you Samantha, and 
> set the other as Alex.
> It was some combination of those steps that got me back to having both.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> The only limits are those of vision.
> 
> 
> 
> 🐉
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> No, not exactly. I have US English in the rotor. I also have default 
>> language as US English. But both of those are set to Alex. What I would like 
>> to have is one said to Alex and the other one set to the high-quality 
>> Samantha voice. I think I had that at one point, and then somehow screwed it 
>> up. I hope that makes sense.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Go into the speech settings and add US as one of the roter languages. Is 
>>> that what you mean?
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The only limits are those of vision.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 🐉
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 25, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I have just installed iOS 8.1 on my iPad mini retina. I have the Alex 
 voice installed. Somehow, I managed to set Alex as my default language and 
 also my US English language. I would like to retain Samantha as one of 
 those two positions. Shirley, I am overlooking something stupid and easy. 
 But I can't find it. How can I have both Samantha and Alex available as US 
 English choices, one being the default and the otherbeing the US English 
 choice?
 Mary
 
 
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I finally updated my to 8.1

[Katey Glass]

Good Afternoon,

I wanted to let everyone know I finally updated my iPhone 5s to iOS 8.1.  I 
have a question, before the update my incoming messages and texts didn't read 
them outloud on the lock screen.  Now they are reading them out.  

Under General, Accessibility is there a setting that got changed some place?  I 
seem to remember a way to totally take them off the lock screen that is 
visually) which will only play a sound and I may have to revert to this as I do 
not want my messages read out for all to hear.  

Also, has anyone updated an iPad 3rd Generation to iOS 8.1?  If so, how's it 
doing?  I'm currently running 7.1.2 and its running fine.  

Thanks in advance for your assistance.  

Katey 

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Re: Bluetooth Headset Profiles?

[Katey Glass]

I had the 700's and 750's and both are just as responsive.  I tried the 730's 
and they were just awful!  I wound up giving them to my fiance who's a 
non-voice over user.  

These headphones LG HBS 750 can be purchased on Amazon.  We got them from 
Verizon locally so I'd guess you can pick them up at any local place, in fact I 
saw them at Radio Shack as well.  I'm very glad that LG fixed what ever it 
broke in the 730's which caused it to not work right with VO, but then again 
I'd read reviews of sighted people who had problems while listening to 
streaming music when it would cut in and out between songs, but Mike never 
complained of this!  

HTH

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> Oh, that's good. I'd heard that the 730 did not play well with VoiceOver, and 
> was horrible in general. How is the Bluetooth connection on the 750's? It was 
> awful on the 730's, which is why I'm asking.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> I want to let you know that the LG HBS 750 works well with VO on my iPhone 
>> 5s running 7.1.2, and I'm on the verge of updating to 8.1, this is the 
>> longest I've ever waited to update, but that's a different topic.  I just 
>> wanted to let you all know that the 750 will play nice with VoiceOver.  
>> 
>> Katey 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you're looking for a good stereo Bluetooth headset, but don't mind not 
>>> having bone conduction, you could take a look at the LG HBS700. There are 
>>> newer models of this headset available, but I hear they do not work well in 
>>> general, and especially with VoiceOver. There's a good review of this 
>>> headset on AppleVis.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I like mine too. Wish it was stereo, because the audio quality is 
>>>> fabulous. I also have the Aftershokz Bluez 2, but the audio quality sucks. 
>>>> I do like the bone conduction idea especially when mobile and using GPS 
>>>> navigation.
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:28 AM
>>>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
>>>> Subject: RE: Bluetooth Headset Profiles?
>>>> 
>>>> I love my Plantronics Voyager Legend headset.  I recall others on this 
>>>> list have spoken well of it, too.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:05 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset Profiles?
>>>> 
>>>> Any suggestions for such a piece which is of decent quality?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/22/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>>> A2DP support means the device handles high-quality audio, which it
>>>>> will do automatically. When you are making a FaceTime or phone call,
>>>>> or using Siri (at least on my bluetooth headset) you'll get dumped
>>>>> into phone call quality, but any other time, you get full fidelity, at
>>>>> least as good as bluetooth can manage.
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm just correcting the error in the subject; sorry about that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and
>>>>>> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Teresa Cochran >>>>> <mailto:batsfly...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I definitely want to buy a Bluetooth earpiece with A2DP profile, so
>>>>>>> it will work with Voiceover. Would such a gadget work with phone calls, 
>>>>>>> etc?
>>>>>>> Do you have to switch between profiles to use different apps? I 

Re: Bluetooth Headset Profiles?

[Katey Glass]

I want to let you know that the LG HBS 750 works well with VO on my iPhone 5s 
running 7.1.2, and I'm on the verge of updating to 8.1, this is the longest 
I've ever waited to update, but that's a different topic.  I just wanted to let 
you all know that the 750 will play nice with VoiceOver.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:04 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> If you're looking for a good stereo Bluetooth headset, but don't mind not 
> having bone conduction, you could take a look at the LG HBS700. There are 
> newer models of this headset available, but I hear they do not work well in 
> general, and especially with VoiceOver. There's a good review of this headset 
> on AppleVis.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 6:48 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
>> 
>> I like mine too. Wish it was stereo, because the audio quality is fabulous. 
>> I also have the Aftershokz Bluez 2, but the audio quality sucks. I do like 
>> the bone conduction idea especially when mobile and using GPS navigation.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:28 AM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
>> Subject: RE: Bluetooth Headset Profiles?
>> 
>> I love my Plantronics Voyager Legend headset.  I recall others on this list 
>> have spoken well of it, too.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset Profiles?
>> 
>> Any suggestions for such a piece which is of decent quality?
>> 
>>> On 10/22/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> A2DP support means the device handles high-quality audio, which it
>>> will do automatically. When you are making a FaceTime or phone call,
>>> or using Siri (at least on my bluetooth headset) you'll get dumped
>>> into phone call quality, but any other time, you get full fidelity, at
>>> least as good as bluetooth can manage.
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 
 I'm just correcting the error in the subject; sorry about that.
 
 Teresa
 
 "We can see with the eyes, but we see with the brain as well, and
 seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Teresa Cochran >>> > wrote:
 
> Hi, guys,
> 
> I definitely want to buy a Bluetooth earpiece with A2DP profile, so
> it will work with Voiceover. Would such a gadget work with phone calls, 
> etc?
> Do you have to switch between profiles to use different apps? I have
> a standard earpiece that uses a profile for phone calls, but mostly,
> I'll be using it with Voiceover. I have an iPod Touch 5G.
> 
> 
> 
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> seeing with the brain is often called imagination."--Oliver Sacks
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Re: Using iTunes to update will take far less space

[Katey Glass]

Last night while I was sleeping and my iPhone 5S was plugged in and connected 
to wifi the new iOS was pushed to the phone. I haven't updated yet as I'm 
waiting to see when the bugs are squashed.  

Interestingly though my iPad 3 Gen was also plugged in and on the wifi but no 
push!  I think my fiance's iPad got the push as didhis iPhone.  

Weird.

Katey 

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> On Sep 18, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Yes, just one of many reasons why updating via iTunes is not only a superior 
> option, but a far more accessible one.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 19/09/2014, at 8:35 am, Neal Ewers  wrote:
>> 
>> Someone on this list has already reported this, but I just wanted to second 
>> it.
>>  
>> I was just reading an article about the number of people who are using 
>> social media to complain to apple about how much space it used on the device 
>> to download and update iOS 8. The article reminded people that using iTunes 
>> would take far less room on the device. I don’t have the numbers handy, but 
>> it is a significant difference.
>>  
>> Neal
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Re: Is anyone using any fitness tracking wrist bands?

[Katey Glass]

Hello,

The fitbit connects to your phone, iPad or computer via bluetooth.  You can set 
up to 5 different alarms.  

I love my flex and hope to get the aria scale eventually.  Right now I'm using 
a standard digital scale and reading the weight with my monocular.  

HTH

Katey 

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> On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I forgot to ask, how long does it need to charge and can you set as many 
> alarms as you like and will it connect to Wifi just like the Area Scale?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 22 Aug 2014, at 04:55 pm, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I use the fitbit flex and love it!  I'll try to explain charging and 
>> putting it in the band.
>> 
>> Lay the device in the palm of your hand.  You want the slanted side facing 
>> up & toward your fingertips.  If that part makes since, we are doing well.  
>> This is the orientation we want the device in for everything else.
>> 
>> For charging, I use my small iPhone block or a low voltage bluetooth 
>> charger.  I plug in the fitbit charging cable into my iPhone block.
>> 
>> Lay the charging cradle in the palm of your hand.  The USB end pointing at 
>> your wrist, the cradle end toward your fingertips.  There is pronounced 
>> ridges on the base of the cradle, this is the correct side up.
>> 
>> The fitbit device slides right into the cradle.  Again, slanted side up as I 
>> described earlier.
>> 
>> Lol, hopefully I'm doing ok here.
>> 
>> Onto the flex band...  No matter which wrist you choose, the plastic viewing 
>> window is always on the outer side of your wrist.  The slanted end of the 
>> fitbit has the lights, so you want those to show upwards inside the band.  
>> Putting the device in the band takes some practice & a bit of wiggling.  I 
>> slip that slanted side upwards first, then with a little pushing and 
>> riggling, it slips into place.
>> 
>> Good luck!  If you need further assistance or a different perspective on 
>> describing things, there are great podcasts by David Woodbridge over on 
>> AppleVis.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Traci
>> 
>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 7:44 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm trying to work out how to charge the Flex Wireless Tracker from Fitbit, 
>>> and how to put it in the band. Can anyone help? Once I can get this thing 
>>> working it will be easy to use as I have a work colleague who uses it all 
>>> the time. I'm waiting for him to get in touch to tell me how to use it. 
>>> unless anyone knows here!
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
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Re: FitBit and External Equipment for Newby

[Katey Glass]

Good Evening all,

I have a fitbit flex and always have it on my wrist, except for when I shower.  
I've read that it can sometimes interprit an arm movement for a step, but I 
think overall it's been accurate for me.  I like how it encourages me to keep 
moving and many days I get over 10,000 steps in.  

At the moment I don't have the Aria scale, but hoping to get it in the future, 
at the moment I've been using a digital scale and reading the number with my 
monocular (I do have some useable vision) and manually entering it into my app. 
I have an app on my phone called Weight record that displays my body fat and 
BMI I'm sure it's not as accurate as the Aria scale and probably works by using 
some mathmetical equation but the app was free-- LOL.  

I enjoy walking and doing workouts from Leslie Sansone.  I find they really get 
me sweating and I've lost over 20 pounds since March of this year.  

Katey 

PS I got my Flex around June 15th of this year.  



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> On Aug 10, 2014, at 10:04 AM, "Lois Butterfield"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> It is true that the Flex is supposed to be worn on your wrist.  If I’m going 
> to be walking, I usually attach the band to my shoe or sandal so it will 
> record my steps.  Around the house, I figure it doesn’t matter so much.  
> There are plenty of steps I take while carrying something, so if it thinks 
> I’m stepping when I’m actually cleaning, it doesn’t much matter.  I even wear 
> it during my water aerobics class.  It doesn’t cover my actual steps in the 
> pool, but my arms are always moving, so I think it is close enough.
>  
> I agree with Linda that knowing how many steps you take helps to do more.  I 
> get my 10,000 one way or the other.  If on my treadmill, holding the hand 
> rail, I attach it to my shoe. 
>  
> I also like the silent alarms you can set up.  The Flex vibrates.  You can 
> set up 5 per day, and setting it up is completely accessible on your phone.
>  
> I have both my Flex and Aria synced with my fitness pal app, and I log my 
> food into that.  In my fitness pal, you can see your progress, and because 
> Flex tells the app what I’ve done, it can include the calories I really have 
> taken in and the ones I’ve used.  My fitness pal also shows my weight.
>  
> I apologize for the long post.  I’d be happy to answer anything off list.  My 
> e-mail is at the bottom.
>  
> Good luck,
> Lois
>  
> Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant
> http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us
> lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com
> 407-276-4173
> Wonderful scents without the flame.
>  
> From: Lynda Ingraham
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FitBit and External Equipment for Newby
>  
> Hi Terrie,
>  
> I have the Fit Bit Zip. The Zip can be clipped to your clothing and is, in my 
> opinion, the best pedometer that I have used. It also allows you to track 
> calories burned and duration of exercise. I have to admit, I have not used 
> the logging for food. I am torn between staying with Weight Watchers and 
> trying the food logging available through Fit Bit.
>  
> I did have to set up my account online before registering my Zip.
>  
> One of the reasons I chose the Zip instead of the Fit Bit Flex was the 
> potential for the flex to interpret hand motion as a step. I can’t remember 
> whether that was mentioned here on the list or if I read it on FitBit.com
>  
> The Zip is $59 at most places and the Flex is $99. I purchased my Zip at 
> drugstore.com. You receive 5% back and I received an additional 8% back 
> shopping through extrabux.com.
>  
> I have had my Zip registered since July 5th. This week I will log over 
> 300,000 steps. It has definitely helped me to be more active.
>  
> HTH
>  
> Lynda
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terrie Terlau
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: FitBit and External Equipment for Newby
>  
> Hello everyone!
> I would like to monitor activity level and weight, and perhaps callory 
> intake. I have done Google and AppleVis searches but haven't found info about 
> which apps and external sensors work with Voice Over. If anyone, perhaps Lois 
> or others, who uses a combination of apps and sensors that work would be 
> willing to give a basic explanation of what they use and any workarounds they 
> have discovered to make their equipment and apps accessible, I would very 
> much appreciate it. Thanks for any help you all can give.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> marie baisez
> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fitbit application setup
>  
> How can I input the details of my height and weight when I can't see any edit 
> field to write them in?
> Can anyone using the flex  enlighten me please?
> The very best to all!
> Marie
> 
> 
> __ Infor

Re: Fitdit for smartphone

[Katey Glass]

I use the fitbit app and the flex and yes the app is very accessible.  I've had 
it for 2 weeks.  What do you want to know?  I find it motivating to see how 
active I really am especially since I'm trying to lose weight.  

Thanks,

Katey 

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> On Jun 30, 2014, at 9:59 PM, "Jenny Dawson"  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joanne
> 
> The Fit Bit wrist band is easy to set up and very accessible.  Just follow
> the promps.
> 
> Jenny
> 
> 
> Jennifer dawson
> 
> Phone: 08 94961024
> Email: jjdaw...@iinet.net.au 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Joanne Chua
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2014 8:06 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible gadgets
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fitdit for smartphone
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering, anyone on this list uses Fitdit product before?
> If so, how accessible to set it up and paring with your smartphone?
> 
> Thanks
> Joanne
> 
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Re: Importing BookShare Books from Read To Go into Voice Dream

[Katey Glass]

Did you all know that you can change the amount of time that BookShare will 
show history?  I think by default it's only 30 days but there is a calendar 
where you can change how far back BS will display your download history.  I 
know as I use VDR and have looked quite far back in my history before.  

HTH

Katey 

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> On Jun 1, 2014, at 10:14 AM, "Lynda Ingraham"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Terrie,
>  
> I was hoping this process would work for you. I ran into a similar problem 
> using Bookshare’s history to bring books into VDR/. I wonder if it has 
> anything to do with how long ago a book was initially downloaded into 
> Read-To-Go. I noticed recent books I had downloaded were still in the history 
> section. However, books from several months ago were not there. I am not 
> well-versed in Drop Box—so I’m afraid I won’t be much help. Sorry this wasn’t 
> a great short-cut for you.
>  
> Have a good day,
>  
> Lynda
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terrie Terlau
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 11:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Importing BookShare Books from Read To Go into Voice Dream
>  
> Hi Lynda,
> When I go to my Bookshare History on VDR, I only see six books that I 
> downloaded from BookShare with the PC. I do not see the many many books that 
> I downloaded with Read to Go on the iPhone. I can't find any way to get Read 
> to Go files sent to Drop Box. Please let me know if you have some ideas about 
> how I might get my Bookshare History in VDR to show Read to Go downloads. 
> Thanks for your good idea.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lynda Ingraham
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 6:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Importing BookShare Books from Read To Go into Voice Dream
>  
> Hi Terrie,
>  
> Try going into your history on Bookshare and downloading the books into VDR 
> from there.
>  
> HTH,
>  
> Lynda
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Terrie Terlau
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 5:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Importing BookShare Books from Read To Go into Voice Dream
>  
> I just purchased the new version of Voice Dream and love it.  However, I have 
> about 80 Bookshare books in Read To Go. Is there a way to import those books 
> into Voice Dream? I hope so! Can iTunes do it if I can't do it on the phone 
> alone?
> Thanks for your help!
> Terrie Terlau
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Re: Battery draining

[Katey Glass]

Glad to hear it helped!  

Katey 

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> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:54 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> After reading your message, I went in to settings, general, background with 
> fresh, and turned it back on. I then check each out to determine which ones 
> will keep in location services on. The surprising one for me is dropbox. When 
> I turned Dropbox off, location services disappeared from my status bar.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 9:44, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good Afternoon All,
>> 
>> I just wanted to let you know that this location services "bug" of staying 
>> on constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't 
>> affected me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.  
>> 
>> I first went to Privacy> Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)
>> 
>> I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently 
>> using his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  
>> So I turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the 
>> status line.  
>> 
>> I did a hard boot, holding the power button & the home button to no avail.  
>> 
>> So I googled location services constantly running and found the following 
>> forum
>> 
>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935
>> 
>> There it told me to go to the following:
>> 
>> You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the 
>> individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or 
>> Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will 
>> not keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
>> For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
>> apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
>> 
>> Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
>> associated app.
>> 
>> This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly 
>> the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it 
>> does on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location 
>> Services goes off in the status line.  
>> 
>> Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  
>> 
>> I hope this helps someone out there.  
>> 
>> Katey
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location 
>>> services, automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring 
>>> when they are not open in the foreground.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, "Andy Baracco"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location 
>>>> services, such as a GPS app useless?
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Battery draining
>>>> 
>>>> The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the 
>>>> status bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it 
>>>> again last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
>>>> 
>>>> Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
>>>> 
>>>> Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more 
>>>> time before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
>>>> situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less 
>>>> than 1% of the user base. Every email to
>>>> accessibil...@apple.com
>>>> helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
>>>> have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward 
>>>> fixing the problem.
>>>> 
>>>> As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember 
>>>> back to the wonderful

Re: Battery draining

[Katey Glass]

Good Afternoon All,

I just wanted to let you know that this location services "bug" of staying on 
constantly doesn't just effect us VoiceOver users.  In fact, It hadn't affected 
me (a VO user) but did affect my fiance who's not a VO user.  

I first went to Privacy> Location services (I turned on VO to do this BTW)

I noticed that not only was FourSquare on, but it said it was currently using 
his current location despite the fact it wasn't in his app switcher.  So I 
turned off the phone and back on and location services was still in the status 
line.  

I did a hard boot, holding the power button & the home button to no avail.  

So I googled location services constantly running and found the following forum

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5984935

There it told me to go to the following:

You can either turn off background refresh of GPS altogether or turn off the 
individual apps that use GPS all the time like google maps, Foursquare, or 
Facebook. They will still be able to use GPS when you open them, but will not 
keep the GPS running in the background when the app is closed.
For some reason, after I updated to 7.1, this was activated and had all the 
apps updating in the background even when they were closed.
 
Now I have no problems. GPS and location services only open when I open the 
associated app.

This seems to fix it, I turned off FourSquare as directed above and suddenly 
the location services icon only shows up when FourSquare is launched as it does 
on my phone, but when FS is taken out of the app switcher the location Services 
goes off in the status line.  

Both my fiance and I have iPhone 5s and are both running iOS 7.1.  

I hope this helps someone out there.  

Katey

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:56 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> No, any app that is running in the foreground which needs location services, 
> automatically turns on GPS. This just keeps apps from monitoring when they 
> are not open in the foreground.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 8:44, "Andy Baracco"  wrote:
>> 
>> But if you do this, won't that render any app that needs location services, 
>> such as a GPS app useless?
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: David Chittenden
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Battery draining
>> 
>> The only way I am able to get location services to disappear from the status 
>> bar is to completely disable background app refresh. I attempted it again 
>> last night with the same result after a reboot and a warm reset.
>> 
>> Go to settings, general, background app refresh.
>> 
>> Again, this appears to only affect VO users, so expect it to take more time 
>> before the error is resolved. Apple only rushes fixes for critical 
>> situations that affect significant numbers of users, and VO users are less 
>> than 1% of the user base. Every email to
>> accessibil...@apple.com
>> helps because more emails about the same issue means they know more people 
>> have the problem, so they will increase the resources directed toward fixing 
>> the problem.
>> 
>> As for those who complain that Apple should fix it now, please remember back 
>> to the wonderful days of the extremely expensive specialised note-taker. It 
>> usually took the manufacturer between six months and a year between updates, 
>> and we always had to live with the problem until then, if the problem was 
>> even fixed. Oh, and let's not forget, some devices could not be upgraded 
>> without sending them back to the manufacturer. Finally, the annual upgrade 
>> fee was usually rather significant.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 17 Mar 2014, at 1:53, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>> 
>>> The battery draining problem is getting worse, so yesterday evening before 
>>> going out I charged the phone as much as I could and timed the drainage. It 
>>> dropped 35% in a 3 1/2 hour period of time. Hence, I will place my 
>>> complaint to Apple accessibility. The phone was completely drained and dead 
>>> as a doorknob when I just got up. Where can I find the background refresh 
>>> to turn that off? I didn't totally turn off location services, but turned 
>>> it off in apps that I didn't need to have it on. What else do I need to do 
>>> to save on battery? Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Eileen
 On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:16 AM, David Chittenden  
 wrote:
 
 I turned off all background refresh. It looks like location services gets 
 switched on. This causes 15-20% battery drain per hour, and the GPS 
 antenna is the only thing that is this power demanding.
 
 Also, it looks as though this is only happening to people running VO. None 
 of my sighted friends are having the battery drain problem.
 

Re: deleting voicemails on the iphone 5

[Katey Glass]

Yes I've heard that as well!  I'm hoping it eventually gets fixed.  

Thanks,
Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 16, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This is a known issue with AT&T and it is apparently carrier related. I have
> heard it mentioned and discussed on the Today in iOS Podcast. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: deleting voicemails on the iphone 5
> 
> I've seen this as well, especially when I want to delete voice mails
> entirely from my iPhone 5s.  I'll delete them, and then do a mass delete
> all, only to have them come back the next time I go into voice mail.  Maybe
> not all of the ones I've deleted, but some. So, I again delete them and
> eventually they all go.  
> 
> If it matters I'm using an iPhone 5s, running iOS 7.0.4 on the AT&T network.
> 
> 
> Katey 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Keith Bundy  wrote:
>> 
>> I have also seen this problem. I will delete a voicemail, and it will say
> it is deleted. Then, when I restart voicemail, the messages are still there.
> Not sure what is causing this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure I've seen this with voice mails, and I'm not sure when I've
> last seen a similar problem, but sometimes I need to back out a screen and
> come back in before I see somethings, like message threads, be removed from
> the display. You might try this to see if they stop showing up.
>>> 
>>>> On 02/14/2014 10:03 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
>>>> Hey guys,
>>>> I seem to be having difficulties deleting voicemails on my iphone 5.
> I'll
>>>> have the list of voicemails, I'll get to one, then swipe down and it
> sayse
>>>> delete, and I'll double tap.  Sometimes it works and sometimes it
> doesn't
>>>> cause a few seconds later the name will speak again like the voicemail
> enver
>>>> got deleted.  Has anyone else experienced this issue, or is there a
> better
>>>> way to delete voicemails?
>>> 
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Re: deleting voicemails on the iphone 5

[Katey Glass]

I've seen this as well, especially when I want to delete voice mails entirely 
from my iPhone 5s.  I'll delete them, and then do a mass delete all, only to 
have them come back the next time I go into voice mail.  Maybe not all of the 
ones I've deleted, but some. So, I again delete them and eventually they all 
go.  

If it matters I'm using an iPhone 5s, running iOS 7.0.4 on the AT&T network.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Keith Bundy  wrote:
> 
> I have also seen this problem. I will delete a voicemail, and it will say it 
> is deleted. Then, when I restart voicemail, the messages are still there. Not 
> sure what is causing this.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure I've seen this with voice mails, and I'm not sure when I've 
>> last seen a similar problem, but sometimes I need to back out a screen and 
>> come back in before I see somethings, like message threads, be removed from 
>> the display. You might try this to see if they stop showing up.
>> 
>>> On 02/14/2014 10:03 AM, Jed Barton wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>> I seem to be having difficulties deleting voicemails on my iphone 5.  I'll
>>> have the list of voicemails, I'll get to one, then swipe down and it sayse
>>> delete, and I'll double tap.  Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't
>>> cause a few seconds later the name will speak again like the voicemail enver
>>> got deleted.  Has anyone else experienced this issue, or is there a better
>>> way to delete voicemails?
>> 
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Re: LG HBS730 Headphones, Do They Work With IOS 7?

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

Sorry for the delayed response, I was able to test the LG HBS730 today on my 
iPhone 5s running both iOS 7.0.3 and then I upgraded to iOS 7.0.4 and while the 
delays I experienced under iOS 6 (latest version) on my 4s weren't as bad, it's 
still not as responsive as the LG HBS 700's.  I'm not sure what LG did 
differently between the two devices, besides add voice prompts and I believe 
that it's Bluetooth 3.0.  

So, as a VoiceOver user we still have to get the LG HBS 700 as they work with 
VoiceOver with no lag or should I say barely noticeable lags.  I had hoped that 
iOS 7 would have fixed this but it doesn't appear to have.  Also, as I said it 
lags badly on a 5s so the hardware didn't make a difference either.  

I have a few other bluetooth speakers and none of them have a lagging problem 
with VoiceOver either.  So... I'm not sure why the 730's do.  

HTH

Katey 

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> On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:04 PM, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:
> 
> Katey, did you ever get to test the hbs730 headphones with your fiance's 5s?  
> I do hope VoiceOver will work properly with these headphones under IOS 7.
>  
> Thanks for any information.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt  
> - Original Message -
> From: Katey Glass
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:43 PM
> Subject: Re: LG HBS730 Headphones, Do They Work With IOS 7?
> 
> Hi Arnold,
> 
> I'm just bumping this up as I'm interested in knowing if anyone has tried 
> these under iOS 7.  If not, I'll try as my fiance has the 730's I'll ask him 
> if he notices any dropouts, though he's ssighted.  If he doesn't I'll turn on 
> VO on his phone and try for myself by turning on VO on his 5s.  
> 
> Katey 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:57 PM, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:
>> 
>> These headphones did not work well with VoiceOver and IOS 6.  Does anybody 
>> know if the problem was resolved with IOS 7?  I am going to have to replace 
>> my HBS700 headphones soon, and will get another pair of them, unless the 
>> 730's work with VoiceOver now.
>>  
>> Thanks for any information.
>>  
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Re: Movie reading web site

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

I have to say I missed Philomena when it was in the theaters unfortunately!  I 
agree that I do wish they'd make more movies available to us, even if they were 
an in app purchase.  

For full disclosure, I'm a partial, and for years I've sat close to the screen 
when I went to the movie theater and relied on friends or my fiance to describe 
to me what was happening on the screen.  Well, on Christmas Day my fiance and I 
went to see "The Best Man Holiday" at a local theater (a Regal Cinema) and I 
asked for the discriptive audio device.  We sat where we usually do and do you 
know what I discovered?  I discovered how much visually I missed in the movies! 
 Like facial expressions and small subtle movements.  Of course there was a 
part where they described when a character looked at various headlines and in 
the past I'd have to ask my fiance what they said and they were read to me!  I 
felt like I got a fuller appreciation for the entire movie.  I also realized 
that us partials really do miss a lot visually!  

Sorry for the off topic, comments.  I agree that I hope they do make more 
tracks, even TV show tracks available thru MovieReader.  

Katey 

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> On Jan 4, 2014, at 8:41 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> On the page http://solo-dx.com/movie_reading/index.html it actually says:
> 
> MovieReading app?
> 
> The movie studios and distributors make the decision of what audio 
> description and caption files to release on the MovieReading app. Your voice 
> counts, so if there is a particular title you would like to have available, 
> be sure to let them know!
> 
> When I read this, I don't see them saying we have to do the work for them or 
> that they aren't already working to make more movies available themselves. I 
> don't see this as any different then any other campaign where you're asked to 
> contact your cable company to have Watch ESPN made available or let your 
> movie theater know you want DVS ability and so on.
> 
> BTW, I haven't played with this technology myself, but how much does the app 
> cost and how much do these tracks cost? I didn't see a price discussed on the 
> Solo-Dx web site.
> 
>> On 01/04/2014 05:57 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>> So we’re supposed to do their work for them?
>> Andy
>> *From:* Amy 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 04, 2014 3:44 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: Movie reading web site
>> Here's a link to solo DX.
>> Also, some others on the list have been wondering when the movie reading
>> app will have more movie tracks. according to the solo dx Twitter and
>> Facebook pages, we consumers are supposed to notify the movie
>> distributors that we want more audio tracks to be provided through the
>> movie reading app. However, they have not provided contact information
>> for the movie studios and distributors.
>> http://solo-dx.com/index.html
>> 
>> On Jan 4, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Tom Frank > > wrote:
>> 
>> I deleted all of the emails that listed who produced the narration for
>> the movie reading app. www.moviereading.com
>>  did not give me any information. What is
>> the description producers web site.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Tom Frank
>> vermont...@gmail.com 
>> 
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Re: LG HBS730 Headphones, Do They Work With IOS 7?

[Katey Glass]

Hi Arnold,

I'm just bumping this up as I'm interested in knowing if anyone has tried these 
under iOS 7.  If not, I'll try as my fiance has the 730's I'll ask him if he 
notices any dropouts, though he's ssighted.  If he doesn't I'll turn on VO on 
his phone and try for myself by turning on VO on his 5s.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:57 PM, "Arnold Schmidt"  wrote:
> 
> These headphones did not work well with VoiceOver and IOS 6.  Does anybody 
> know if the problem was resolved with IOS 7?  I am going to have to replace 
> my HBS700 headphones soon, and will get another pair of them, unless the 
> 730's work with VoiceOver now.
>  
> Thanks for any information.
>  
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Re: No Cursor Tracking in Zoom IOS 7

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

I'm another low vision user, and as long as I've had my iPad, which is a 3rd 
gen Zoom has never tracked VO unfortunately  in my own experience.  So, I'm a 
VO only typist.  I'm primarily a VO user but do sometimes use Zoom alone.  

HTH

Katey 

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> On Dec 14, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
> 
> I'm one, but unfortunately, have never tried it with a Bluetooth keyboard. I 
> use it with the built in keyboards, thus can't replicate your issue. Sorry, 
> couldn't have been more help. 
> 
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>> Any low vision Zoom users on the list?
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Re: The Fleksy update is in the app store.

[Katey Glass]

I just wanted to let you know that I solved my copy & Paste problem, I
deleted Fleksy from my phone and reinstalled it.  Problem solved.

Thanks,

Katey


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On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Chuck Dean  wrote:

>  https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fleksy-happy-typing/id520337246?mt=8
>
>
> Chuck (mobile)
> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
>
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 12:57 AM, "BroxiBear" 
> wrote:
>
>   hello, what does this app do please?, Billy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Robert Fenton
> Sent: 01 December 2013 8:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Fleksy update is in the app store.
>
> Another big changes that you will not find any punctuation symbols such as
> a
> # or @ on the main screen. These are now available in the number screen
> only.
>
> Bob Fenton
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
>
>
> The Fleksy update is in the app store.
>
> Hello all,
>
> The Fleksy update is now in the app store. I recommend you read the what's
>
> new description because a few things have changed, like to go to the menu
> you'll need to do a two finger flick up instead of the tap and hold of
> previous versions.
>
> Unfortunately, the update has deleted my favorites.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
>
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Re: The Fleksy update is in the app store.

[Katey Glass]

before I report this as a bug, can anyone else successfully use the copy and 
paste option on fleksey?  I can set up and use favorites and post to facebook, 
but when I try to copy and paste to a person not in my favorites then it 
doesn't paste what I typed despite the fact it took the text out of the typing 
field in fleksey.  

If this matters I'm using an iPhone 5s on 7.0.3.  I know I haven't updated to 
7.0.4 yet!  LOL  

Katey 

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> On Dec 1, 2013, at 5:49 PM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
> 
> I was afraid this might happen. When I went to update Fleksy, I get a
> message saying that the current version requires iOS 7.0 or later but that I
> can download the last compatible version if not running iOS 7. However, I
> have been unable to install this so-called last compatible version which I
> suspect is version 1.9 I was already running before this upgrade occurred.
> Has anyone running a pre-iOS 7 version successfully gotten Fleksy to work
> since they upgraded it?
> 
> I don't know why developers can't make a version that those of us who aren't
> inclined to move to iOS 7 can continue to use. What gee whiz features did
> they add to this latest 2.0 version of Fleksy that required iOS 7?
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The Fleksy update is in the app store.
> 
> The Fleksy update is in the app store. 
> Hello all, 
> The Fleksy update is now in the app store. I recommend you read the what's
> new description because a few things have changed, like to go to the menu
> you'll need to do a two finger flick up instead of the tap and hold of
> previous versions. 
> Unfortunately, the update has deleted my favorites. 
> Good luck! 
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> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
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Re: The Fleksy update is in the app store.

[Katey Glass]

does it fix the fact that the screen locks while you are typing using it? This 
behaviour started in iOS 7.  Thanks for your insights.  

Katey 

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> On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Robert Fenton  wrote:
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> Another big changes that you will not find any punctuation symbols such as a 
> # or @ on the main screen. These are now available in the number screen only.
> 
> Bob Fenton
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 1, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
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>> The Fleksy update is in the app store. 
>> Hello all, 
>> The Fleksy update is now in the app store. I recommend you read the what's 
>> new description because a few things have changed, like to go to the menu 
>> you'll need to do a two finger flick up instead of the tap and hold of 
>> previous versions. 
>> Unfortunately, the update has deleted my favorites. 
>> Good luck! 
>> 
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Re: Voiceover volume bug present in new iPad mini retina

[Katey Glass]

Melissa,

Yes, you can set this by doing the following.  This bug is present on iphone 5s 
as well.  May I also suggest you call Apple Accessibility and report the 
problem.  The more people that tell them the more likely they will fix this 
problem.  

In the meantime, here's what you do to fix it:
Go to Settings
General
scroll down to reset and tap on that
reset all settings - note this will not earase any of your apps, music or other 
media content.  

What this will do is reset all settings such as wi-fi settings and VO settings 
(sadly) but it will also re-set the VO volume.  Now Go to the VO setting and 
rotor and take Volume out of the rotor so you don't accedently get it stuck 
again.  

Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions.  

Katey  

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> On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:38 PM, melissa tucker  wrote:
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>> 
>> is there a fix for this problem?   I accidentally messed up my voice over 
>> volume so now it's lower than media.  I've rebooted my phone, and tried 
>> other stuff to fix it but no luck.  thanks.
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Re: New Iphone's 5S with questions

[Katey Glass]

Hello,

I had this happen to me a few weeks ago, I upgraded from a 4s to a 5s and the 
first week it acted as my 4s did when a text would come in, it would say the 
time and the number of allerts.  Then for no real reason it started reading my 
entire text message out!  Like you all I was not ammused by this!  

I was given some work arounds which worked, but  was not what I wanted.  I can 
dig that up for you if you need me to, unless someone knows what the procedure 
to not have the texts displayed on the lock screen, if memory serves, you go to 
settings>notification center> show on lock screen and turn this to off.  That 
was one way, but I feel sure there was another way.  

However, what finally fixed it for me was I wiped my iPhone, re-installed the 
iOS and as a new device it functioned as it did on my 4s, so I reinstalled my 
backup from the iCloud from my 5s and the unwanted text message reading 
commenced again!  So, I bought more iCloud space, and put my 4s back up to the 
cloud, and then wiped my 5s again and did a reinstall from the 4s backup.  

Now I know this sounds like a lot of work, but I was also missing my custom 
ringtones, so this actually solved 2 problems I was having. 

Hope this helps, let me know if I can be of further assistance.  

Katey 

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> On Nov 27, 2013, at 11:11 PM, "Blind Treasures "  
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> As the subject states, both my wife and I got new IPhone 5S yesterday and
> have run into a little issue that I'm hoping someone has the answer to. 
> When we get a text message and go to unlock the screen by pressing the home
> or power button, before we can even unlock the screen, VO is reading out the
> message. This is also the case if we are doing something else on the phone
> and a text message comes in, VO will read it out loud.
> We do not want VO to read text messages out loud since we might be somewhere
> where we wouldn't want everyone around us to hear it. Who knows what kind of
> text message we might get! LOL 
> When we were using the IPhone 5 on IOS 6, all VO would announce out loud is
> who the message was coming from and this is how we would like it to work.
> Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. I've tried playing around
> with different options but no luck. Thanks in advance and everyone have a
> wonderful Thanksgiving.
> 
> 
> "I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than
> live a hundred years smothered by a lie."--Lena Haloway
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Re: Ring tone Sinking Problem

[Katey Glass]

Hey Eric,

Glad it worked for you!  As I said I'm not sure why syncing to the mac lost or 
rather forgot the ringtones, but guess I'm not alone.  

BTW, I'm still on Dice World, my ID is Katey Jax.  Remindm me of yours and w'll 
play again!

Katey 

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> On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Katey,
> 
>Ultimately, I had to follow your directions to get the ring tones back!  I 
> didn't need to purchase extra space as I will only be backing up the 5S to 
> iCloud.  But I did have to reset my 5S to factory settings and then restore 
> from my 4S Backup on iCloud.  doing it from iTunes just would not bring those 
> ring tones over to the iPhone 5S,  Very strange! 
> 
> By the way I miss yo on dice world. Thanks for all the past  games!
> 
> Eric Caron 
>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 12:00 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Eric,
>> 
>> I had this exact problem when I originally updated from my 4s to my 5s.  
>> Strange thing is that not only were my homemade ringtones missing, but some 
>> of the ringtones I'd bought from iTunes.  
>> 
>> So, let me first say that I'd lost them somehow because not all m tones had 
>> synced to my mac running ML.  What I finally had to do as no matter what I 
>> did to try to sync all my ringtones to my mac was to purchase additional 
>> space on the iCloud, sync my 4s back to the cloud, as both 4s and 5s 
>> couldn't be synced on the free 5G that Apple gives us.  
>> 
>> After I'd re-synced my 4s back to the cloud, I went to my 5s and wiped it, 
>> in other words I reset it and it looked like it had just come out of the 
>> box, and when it asked me if I wanted to set up as a new device or another 
>> on the cloud, I chose the 4s backup.  After a while everything was back on 
>> my 5s, including the ringtones!  
>> 
>> Hope this makes sense, let me know if I can be of further assistance.  
>> 
>> Katey 
>> 
>> PS, this also cleared up the bug where my text messages were reading on the 
>> lock screen instead of just saying the time and one allert.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>>  Just restored my new 5S from my 4S and have a ring tone problem.
>>> 
>>> My custom ringtones that were on the 4S don't sink to the 5S.  I tried a 
>>> second full restore with no improvement.  Anyone have this problem and 
>>> anyone find a solution?
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
>>> Missing his home made ring tones 
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Re: Ring tone Sinking Problem

[Katey Glass]

Hello Eric,

I had this exact problem when I originally updated from my 4s to my 5s.  
Strange thing is that not only were my homemade ringtones missing, but some of 
the ringtones I'd bought from iTunes.  

So, let me first say that I'd lost them somehow because not all m tones had 
synced to my mac running ML.  What I finally had to do as no matter what I did 
to try to sync all my ringtones to my mac was to purchase additional space on 
the iCloud, sync my 4s back to the cloud, as both 4s and 5s couldn't be synced 
on the free 5G that Apple gives us.  

After I'd re-synced my 4s back to the cloud, I went to my 5s and wiped it, in 
other words I reset it and it looked like it had just come out of the box, and 
when it asked me if I wanted to set up as a new device or another on the cloud, 
I chose the 4s backup.  After a while everything was back on my 5s, including 
the ringtones!  

Hope this makes sense, let me know if I can be of further assistance.  

Katey 

PS, this also cleared up the bug where my text messages were reading on the 
lock screen instead of just saying the time and one allert.  



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> Hi listers,
> 
>Just restored my new 5S from my 4S and have a ring tone problem.
> 
> My custom ringtones that were on the 4S don't sink to the 5S.  I tried a 
> second full restore with no improvement.  Anyone have this problem and anyone 
> find a solution?
> 
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Re: Text messages in lock screen

[Katey Glass]

OK I re-read that, show on lock screen, now the screen stays black, when
the message comes in, nothings read and just the text tone is played.  this
may have to do, but I know for a long time my screen did come on, message
was displayed visually on the screen along with the text sound.  Then it
would say the time and one notification.
strang indeed.

thanks,

Katey
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:

> Ironically that's already set to "off"   Thanks for the assitance.  this
> is totally baffleing for sure.
>
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>
>
>  On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Shai  wrote:
>
>>  Hi Katey,
>>
>> Try going to your settings and notification center. Next, swipe right
>> until you get to messages and double tap on this. There is an option in
>> there that says show on lock screen. Turn this off and the messages should
>> now not read there.
>>
>> Hope that helps
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Katey Glass
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:05 AM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Text messages in lock screen
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>>
>>
>> I appreciate your efforts.  That didn't change it, the 1st setting was as
>> you said, but I did change preview first to lines to none and it still
>> reads my entire text on the lock screen instead of just saying one
>> message.  :(  I'm not sure what's going on and why it suddenly changed
>> behaviourss!  :(  This just simply doesn't make any send what-so-ever!
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm at work now, so can't really call Rick, I may try at lunch as I can
>> be on an office phone but there are no other settings on the phone that we
>> can physically fix.  Like I said to another email, I may re-sync my 4s to
>> the cloud and restore from that back up as that one isn't doing this, or
>> wasn't doing at at the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> For now, I've jsut put my mute switch on and then it doesn't read the
>> texts out on the lock screen.  I simply don't understand.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for trying
>>
>>
>>
>> Katey
>>
>>
>>
>> A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your
>> heart.
>>
>>
>> Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:10 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Katey,
>>
>> I am so sorry for your distress.
>>
>> You know, there are two more settings you should confirm in order to
>> insure
>> that Text messages will not be automatically read by VoiceOver on the lock
>> screen.
>>
>> Do the following.
>>
>> A.
>> 1.
>> From the Settings menu, select Messages.
>>
>> 2.
>> Make sure the "Show Subject Field" option is set to off.
>>
>> B.
>> 1.
>> From within the Settings list, select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>>
>> 2.
>> Just below the Fetch settings area, you will see the Preview option.  Make
>> sure this is set to none.
>>
>> Hopefully that will do it.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Katey Glass
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:15 PM
>> To: ; gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Text messages in lock screen
>>
>> Good Afternoon all,
>>
>> I have a 5s running iOS 7.0.3 and suddenly today it started reading my
>> text/iMessages when the lock screen in son.  I changed no settings!   Up
>> until today it just told me I had a notification or something.
>>
>> So I double checked in general>accessibility>VoiceOver and read in lock
>> screen is set to off.
>>
>> I called Apple Accessibility and they were baffled.  I then reset (again)
>> all my settings   Guess what?  I still have my SMS/iMessages read in lock
>> screen.
>>
>> Also, if I turn off my iphone when I turn it on, right after I reboot it
>> and
>> it says VoiceOver on it fetches my email. Even without my having changed

Re: Text messages in lock screen

[Katey Glass]

Ironically that's already set to "off"   Thanks for the assitance.  this is
totally baffleing for sure.

Katey


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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Shai  wrote:

>  Hi Katey,
>
> Try going to your settings and notification center. Next, swipe right
> until you get to messages and double tap on this. There is an option in
> there that says show on lock screen. Turn this off and the messages should
> now not read there.
>
> Hope that helps
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Katey Glass
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:05 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Text messages in lock screen
>
>
>
> Mark,
>
>
>
> I appreciate your efforts.  That didn't change it, the 1st setting was as
> you said, but I did change preview first to lines to none and it still
> reads my entire text on the lock screen instead of just saying one
> message.  :(  I'm not sure what's going on and why it suddenly changed
> behaviourss!  :(  This just simply doesn't make any send what-so-ever!
>
>
>
> I'm at work now, so can't really call Rick, I may try at lunch as I can be
> on an office phone but there are no other settings on the phone that we can
> physically fix.  Like I said to another email, I may re-sync my 4s to the
> cloud and restore from that back up as that one isn't doing this, or wasn't
> doing at at the time.
>
>
>
> For now, I've jsut put my mute switch on and then it doesn't read the
> texts out on the lock screen.  I simply don't understand.
>
>
>
> Thanks for trying
>
>
>
> Katey
>
>
>
> A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.
>
>
> Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:10 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
> Hello Katey,
>
> I am so sorry for your distress.
>
> You know, there are two more settings you should confirm in order to insure
> that Text messages will not be automatically read by VoiceOver on the lock
> screen.
>
> Do the following.
>
> A.
> 1.
> From the Settings menu, select Messages.
>
> 2.
> Make sure the "Show Subject Field" option is set to off.
>
> B.
> 1.
> From within the Settings list, select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>
> 2.
> Just below the Fetch settings area, you will see the Preview option.  Make
> sure this is set to none.
>
> Hopefully that will do it.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:15 PM
> To: ; gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Text messages in lock screen
>
> Good Afternoon all,
>
> I have a 5s running iOS 7.0.3 and suddenly today it started reading my
> text/iMessages when the lock screen in son.  I changed no settings!   Up
> until today it just told me I had a notification or something.
>
> So I double checked in general>accessibility>VoiceOver and read in lock
> screen is set to off.
>
> I called Apple Accessibility and they were baffled.  I then reset (again)
> all my settings   Guess what?  I still have my SMS/iMessages read in lock
> screen.
>
> Also, if I turn off my iphone when I turn it on, right after I reboot it
> and
> it says VoiceOver on it fetches my email. Even without my having changed
> those settings.  I have it set to fetch to manually and mail was not in the
> App Switcher.
>
> I think I need to see a Genius.  I've had problems with this iPHone since I
> got it.  Not just the usual volume setting, but when I tried to use iCloud
> to restore it from my 4s some of the programs didn't come, like Pandora and
> I had to use my computer backup which then got me Pandora back but lost
> ringtones.
>
> I still have my 4s and wonder if I should whipe my 5s and set it up as a
> new
> device?  after re syncing my 4s as both cannot be in the cloud!
>
> Please help me.
>
> thanks,
>
> Katey
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Text messages in lock screen

[Katey Glass]

Mark,

I appreciate your efforts.  That didn't change it, the 1st setting was as
you said, but I did change preview first to lines to none and it still
reads my entire text on the lock screen instead of just saying one
message.  :(  I'm not sure what's going on and why it suddenly changed
behaviourss!  :(  This just simply doesn't make any send what-so-ever!

I'm at work now, so can't really call Rick, I may try at lunch as I can be
on an office phone but there are no other settings on the phone that we can
physically fix.  Like I said to another email, I may re-sync my 4s to the
cloud and restore from that back up as that one isn't doing this, or wasn't
doing at at the time.

For now, I've jsut put my mute switch on and then it doesn't read the texts
out on the lock screen.  I simply don't understand.

Thanks for trying

Katey


A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.


Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:10 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hello Katey,
>
> I am so sorry for your distress.
>
> You know, there are two more settings you should confirm in order to insure
> that Text messages will not be automatically read by VoiceOver on the lock
> screen.
>
> Do the following.
>
> A.
> 1.
> From the Settings menu, select Messages.
>
> 2.
> Make sure the "Show Subject Field" option is set to off.
>
> B.
> 1.
> From within the Settings list, select Mail, Contacts, Calendars.
>
> 2.
> Just below the Fetch settings area, you will see the Preview option.  Make
> sure this is set to none.
>
> Hopefully that will do it.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:15 PM
> To: ; gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Text messages in lock screen
>
> Good Afternoon all,
>
> I have a 5s running iOS 7.0.3 and suddenly today it started reading my
> text/iMessages when the lock screen in son.  I changed no settings!   Up
> until today it just told me I had a notification or something.
>
> So I double checked in general>accessibility>VoiceOver and read in lock
> screen is set to off.
>
> I called Apple Accessibility and they were baffled.  I then reset (again)
> all my settings   Guess what?  I still have my SMS/iMessages read in lock
> screen.
>
> Also, if I turn off my iphone when I turn it on, right after I reboot it
> and
> it says VoiceOver on it fetches my email. Even without my having changed
> those settings.  I have it set to fetch to manually and mail was not in the
> App Switcher.
>
> I think I need to see a Genius.  I've had problems with this iPHone since I
> got it.  Not just the usual volume setting, but when I tried to use iCloud
> to restore it from my 4s some of the programs didn't come, like Pandora and
> I had to use my computer backup which then got me Pandora back but lost
> ringtones.
>
> I still have my 4s and wonder if I should whipe my 5s and set it up as a
> new
> device?  after re syncing my 4s as both cannot be in the cloud!
>
> Please help me.
>
> thanks,
>
> Katey
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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Re: G-I-D Text messages in lock screen

[Katey Glass]

Yes, my read in lock screen was always sent to "off" but it started reading
them in the lock screen despite this setting havn't been changed.  So I had
to do a fresh install of my iOS and when it was a "new out of the box
phone" it didn't read the text message in the lock screen, so I did a
re-sync to my iCloud and before the apps were downloaded it didn't read the
text in the lock screen, however as soon as they all were downloaded, this
morning (as I let the sync happen overnight) it's happening again!  Gurrr!
I'm at work now so can't do anything.  I'll call the person I was working
with last night to see what he sugguests.
What I may want to do is re-sync my 4s as I haven't had the 5s for so long
and let that backup to the cloud and then I'd have all my ringtones back
and hopefully not the problem.  I haven't downloaded any new programs
(other than the ones Apple gives new iDevice owners since getting my
phone.  Any other apps have been free ones -- Plus they will still be
linked in the app store.  I'd have to re-donwload some BookShare books and
a BARD book but that's easy enough.
I just don't know what caused this behavour.  BTW, if I mute my phone (by
pushing the switch to mute) it doesn't read them out on the lock screen.

Katey

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Denny Schwab wrote:

> Under notification center, in Settings, go down to Messages.  After
> clicking on Messages, you move down to where it says show in lock
> screen.  Disable that and you will no longer have your messages
> showing up on your lock screen.  It doesn't matter if you keep it to
> alert style, banner style, or no alerts.  As long as show in lock
> screen is off you will not have your messages showing there.
>
> On 11/13/13, RobH.  wrote:
> > I don't find it a problem;  look under notification, though I still don't
> > know the terms like badge, or a couple other things;  but there is where
> > this is determined.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Katey Glass" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:19 AM
> > Subject: Fwd: G-I-D Text messages in lock screen
> >
> >
> > So, I'm the only one with the below problem???
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> From: Katey Glass 
> >> Date: November 12, 2013 at 5:15:08 PM EST
> >> To: "" ,
> >> gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: G-I-D Text messages in lock screen
> >> Reply-To: gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
> >>
> >> Good Afternoon all,
> >>
> >> I have a 5s running iOS 7.0.3 and suddenly today it started reading my
> >> text/iMessages when the lock screen in son.  I changed no settings!   Up
> >> until today it just told me I had a notification or something.
> >>
> >> So I double checked in general>accessibility>VoiceOver and read in lock
> >> screen is set to off.
> >>
> >> I called Apple Accessibility and they were baffled.  I then reset
> (again)
> >>
> >> all my settings   Guess what?  I still have my SMS/iMessages read in
> lock
> >>
> >> screen.
> >>
> >> Also, if I turn off my iphone when I turn it on, right after I reboot it
> >> and it says VoiceOver on it fetches my email. Even without my having
> >> changed those settings.  I have it set to fetch to manually and mail was
> >> not in the App Switcher.
> >>
> >> I think I need to see a Genius.  I've had problems with this iPHone
> since
> >>
> >> I got it.  Not just the usual volume setting, but when I tried to use
> >> iCloud to restore it from my 4s some of the programs didn't come, like
> >> Pandora and I had to use my computer backup which then got me Pandora
> back
> >>
> >> but lost ringtones.
> >>
> >> I still have my 4s and wonder if I should whipe my 5s and set it up as a
> >> new device?  after re syncing my 4s as both cannot be in the cloud!
> >>
> >> Please help me.
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> Katey
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
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Fwd: G-I-D Text messages in lock screen

[Katey Glass]

So, I'm the only one with the below problem???  

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Katey Glass 
> Date: November 12, 2013 at 5:15:08 PM EST
> To: "" , 
> gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: G-I-D Text messages in lock screen
> Reply-To: gold-idev...@googlegroups.com
> 
> Good Afternoon all,
> 
> I have a 5s running iOS 7.0.3 and suddenly today it started reading my 
> text/iMessages when the lock screen in son.  I changed no settings!   Up 
> until today it just told me I had a notification or something.  
> 
> So I double checked in general>accessibility>VoiceOver and read in lock 
> screen is set to off.  
> 
> I called Apple Accessibility and they were baffled.  I then reset (again) all 
> my settings   Guess what?  I still have my SMS/iMessages read in lock screen. 
>  
> 
> Also, if I turn off my iphone when I turn it on, right after I reboot it and 
> it says VoiceOver on it fetches my email. Even without my having changed 
> those settings.  I have it set to fetch to manually and mail was not in the 
> App Switcher.  
> 
> I think I need to see a Genius.  I've had problems with this iPHone since I 
> got it.  Not just the usual volume setting, but when I tried to use iCloud to 
> restore it from my 4s some of the programs didn't come, like Pandora and I 
> had to use my computer backup which then got me Pandora back but lost 
> ringtones.  
> 
> I still have my 4s and wonder if I should whipe my 5s and set it up as a new 
> device?  after re syncing my 4s as both cannot be in the cloud!  
> 
> Please help me.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Katey 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Text messages in lock screen

[Katey Glass]

Good Afternoon all,

I have a 5s running iOS 7.0.3 and suddenly today it started reading my 
text/iMessages when the lock screen in son.  I changed no settings!   Up until 
today it just told me I had a notification or something.  

So I double checked in general>accessibility>VoiceOver and read in lock screen 
is set to off.  

I called Apple Accessibility and they were baffled.  I then reset (again) all 
my settings   Guess what?  I still have my SMS/iMessages read in lock screen.  

Also, if I turn off my iphone when I turn it on, right after I reboot it and it 
says VoiceOver on it fetches my email. Even without my having changed those 
settings.  I have it set to fetch to manually and mail was not in the App 
Switcher.  

I think I need to see a Genius.  I've had problems with this iPHone since I got 
it.  Not just the usual volume setting, but when I tried to use iCloud to 
restore it from my 4s some of the programs didn't come, like Pandora and I had 
to use my computer backup which then got me Pandora back but lost ringtones.  

I still have my 4s and wonder if I should whipe my 5s and set it up as a new 
device?  after re syncing my 4s as both cannot be in the cloud!  

Please help me.

thanks,

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

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Re: Using Zoom and VO

[Katey Glass]

actually, I'm primarily a voiceover user, but I occasionally use zoom on my 
iPad and I can launch it via the tripple click home button after VO is running. 
 On my iPhone I use VoiceOver most of the time, if I want to see something I'd 
rather use a magnifier as I'd have to have it so big, that I'd be panning so 
much it would take a long time for me to accomplish anything.  Lol.  


Katey.  

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 11, 2013, at 10:01 PM, "DJ"  wrote:
> 
> I believe you need to start zoom before VO.  
> 
> DJ
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sandratomkins
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Zoom and VO
> 
> Hi DJ,
> I just put zoom into my rotor, but can't seem to make it have an effect. I
> have never tried using zoom before as it used to conflict with voice-over I
> believe. So do you or anyone else have a suggestion as to how I make it
> operate?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sandy.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 11 Nov 2013, at 00:25, "DJ"  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes you can have Zoom in the roder.  I have it in mine running 7.03.
>> 
>> DJ
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Chris H
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using Zoom and VO
>> 
>> Yes Zoom and Vo can be used together but you cannot have Zoom in the
> rotor.
>> 
>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>> christopher...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> On 10/11/2013 17:29, Pinky wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you use Zoom and VO together?  Also can you have Zoom in the rotor?
>> Any
>>> info on using Zoom would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ed
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Re: iPhone saying Locked more than twice

[Katey Glass]

Glad to know I'm not the only one to experience this bug-- not as an annoying 
one as my stuck volume!  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 4, 2013, at 9:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
> Hello Esther et al,
> 
> I, too, have experienced this phenomenon.  
> 
> I strongly suspect that this has something to do with the way the device is
> refreshing either its WiFi or cell connection.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Esther Levegnale
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 1:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone saying Locked more than twice
> 
> Hi, Neal,
> 
> I also have noticed this.  I'd have the phone locked for some time and out
> of the blue, I'll hear the message "screen locked" when I haven't used it
> for a while.  Glad I'm not the only one.  Smiles!
> 
> Esther Levegnale
> 
> Sent from Esther's Amazing iPhone!
> 
> On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:51 PM, "Neal Ewers"  wrote:
> Hi, we have already covered the fact that in the newest iOS, VoiceOver says
> locked twice. But occasionally, I will be sitting here with the phone locked
> an hour or so after I have used it and it will once again say Locked. I have
> heard no notifications that would cause the phone to do anything but stay in
> locked mode. Has anyone else had this issue?
>  
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Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

[Katey Glass]

Here's a copy of the email I sent to apple

Good Morning/Afternoon,



My name is Catherine Glass and I've been using an iPhone since the 3GS came
out with accessibility, I had a 3GS, 4s and now a 5s.  Unfortunately, I
write today to report a bug which I, and many other blind/visually impaired
VoiceOver users seem to be having with our brand new 5s units.



This bug involved the VO volume in the rotor.  I have had this selected on
my 4s and it worked as expected, raising my VO volume independently of the
system sounds from 1% to 100%.  However, after receiving my brand new 5s
this weekend, and restoring it from a backup of my 4s, the volume when I
flick up is stuck at 45%.  While I can raise and lower the volume using the
volume buttons on the side, the system sounds -- ringers and alerts are
rather loud.  If us lower the volume of sounds the VO voice gets way too
low.



I am a person who has some usable vision and I can see that when I press
the volume up button to raise the VO volume the little symbol which tells
how high the volume is almost to the top and still VO voice is somewhat low
in volume.  This is not the case with my 4s.  I can make the system sounds
rather loud and have VO speak softly.  If I put VO volume in my rotor it’s
stuck at 45%.



What should I do to fix this issue?  I have a brand new iPhone 64 Gig,
silver on the AT&T network.  I got this through the AT&T store.  Any
information you can provide me would be greatly appreciated.

A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.


Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:

> Mark,
> Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone
> with my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back
> in the rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was
> thinking of doing was exactly what you said, going to settings> general>
> reset> and the first option reset all settings.  I know that all my
> accessibility settings as well as my battery saving tips which I put in my
> 4s will be gone (and all papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset
> them -- I still have my 4s and thus I could easily go through the menus and
> put back the ones I want-- minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I
> want to know is this a software or hardware bug?
> Thanks again,  Katey
> A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.
>
>
> Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>
>> Hi Katey,
>>
>> While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people
>> who
>> have.
>>
>> A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
>> following:
>>
>> Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you
>> begin.
>> I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to
>> the
>> cloud--especially in this kind of situation.
>>
>> 1.
>> Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.
>>
>> 2.
>> From the Settings menu, select General.
>>
>> 3.
>> Select Reset.
>>
>> 4.
>> Select "Reset All Settings".  Please note that this is a non-destructive
>> reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
>> however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.
>>
>> 5.
>> Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
>> in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the
>> Rotor
>> until this bug is resolved.
>>
>> 6.
>> From the Settings menu, select Sounds.
>>
>> 7.
>> Make certain that the "change with" option is set to off.  Now you should
>> be
>> able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
>> with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:
>>
>> 8.
>> Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your
>> latest
>> backup.
>>
>> If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
>> extent that it engages the bug.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Katey Glass
>> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
>> To: ; accessible-...@freelists.org
>> Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Sorry for the cross post,

Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

[Katey Glass]

Mark,
Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone
with my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back
in the rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was
thinking of doing was exactly what you said, going to settings> general>
reset> and the first option reset all settings.  I know that all my
accessibility settings as well as my battery saving tips which I put in my
4s will be gone (and all papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset
them -- I still have my 4s and thus I could easily go through the menus and
put back the ones I want-- minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I
want to know is this a software or hardware bug?
Thanks again,  Katey
A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.


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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:

> Hi Katey,
>
> While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people
> who
> have.
>
> A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
> following:
>
> Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you begin.
> I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to the
> cloud--especially in this kind of situation.
>
> 1.
> Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.
>
> 2.
> From the Settings menu, select General.
>
> 3.
> Select Reset.
>
> 4.
> Select "Reset All Settings".  Please note that this is a non-destructive
> reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
> however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.
>
> 5.
> Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
> in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the
> Rotor
> until this bug is resolved.
>
> 6.
> From the Settings menu, select Sounds.
>
> 7.
> Make certain that the "change with" option is set to off.  Now you should
> be
> able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
> with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:
>
> 8.
> Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your
> latest
> backup.
>
> If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
> extent that it engages the bug.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
> To: ; accessible-...@freelists.org
> Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s
>
> Hello all,
>
> Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
> iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
> the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
> 90%.
>
> IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
> wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
> which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.
>
> So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S
> with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my
> 5s
> so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out
> of the roter?
>
> Any help and insights would be appreciated.
>
> Katey
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

[Katey Glass]

Hello,

Yes VO volume will adjust with the volume buttons, but when I lower it using 
the buttons my VO & ring volume decreases and I do have adjust with side volume 
turned to off and so the VO voice and the allerts are both low despite the 
slider telling me the ringer volume is 84%.  It didn't work like this on my 4s. 
 When the slider was at a high volume, the system and allert sounds were loud 
and VO spoke softly.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 3, 2013, at 5:40 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> I did the following on my iPhone 5 and it worked. This does not mean it will 
> work on the 5S, which I do not have.
> 
> Remove volume from the rotor.
> Be somewhere where a two-finger flick up will cause VO to do a lot of reading.
> Perform the two-finger flick up and, whilst VO is talking, press the volume 
> down button until no sound is heard.
> Now, do another two-finger flick up. Though it cannot be heard, VO will start 
> reading the screen again, the same way, and at the same speed.
> Press the volume up button rapidly until VO reaches its maximum volume.
> From this point, do not press the volume buttons when VO is speaking.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Nov 2013, at 11:22, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my 
>> iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in 
>> the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above 
>> 90%.
>> 
>> IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and 
>> wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s, 
>> which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.  
>> 
>> So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S 
>> with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s 
>> so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out 
>> of the roter?  
>> 
>> Any help and insights would be appreciated.  
>> 
>> Katey
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

[Katey Glass]

Hello all,

Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my iPhone 
4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in the roter.  
I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above 90%.

IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and 
wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s, 
which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.  

So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S 
with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s so 
that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out of the 
roter?  

Any help and insights would be appreciated.  

Katey

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Re: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s

[Katey Glass]

Thanks all, I decided to go ahead, as my contract was up -- I went to AT&T and 
hopefully I should get it  this weekend, as they were out of stock.  

I also went with their new program "Next" so I'm paying (over time) for the 
phone and this allows me to be able to get a new phone next year if I want.  

Of course, if I don't like it for whatever reason I can always return it and go 
back to my 4s.  

I will admit that I turned on VO on the 5s they had on display, and I put 
volume in the roter and I tried turnning up the volume to 100% and it would 
only go to 90%.  Then I went below 35% and I wasn't able to get above that!  

Does this effect everyone?  How do you fix this?  I know easy is to not use the 
volume in the roter!  Any other ideas?  

Katey 

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> On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Marianne Denning  
> wrote:
> 
> I upgraded only because my contract was up.  I don't see that much
> difference.  I like SIRI better on the 5s so I guess that is a matter
> of opinion.  I agree that either way is fine.  I have not tried the
> fingerprint feature so cannot comment on that.
> 
>> On 10/29/13, Chris H  wrote:
>> Katie I really think if you are happy with your 4s stick with it. Don't
>> just upgrade because it's the latest and greatest. I say do whatever's
>> best for you. I have a 4s and love it and don't intend to upgrade.
>> 
>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>> christopher...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> On 29/10/2013 14:00, Katey Glass wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I've heard some of the problems some of you have had with the iPhone 5s,
>>> namely if you turn the volume in the rotor lower than 35% it won't go
>>> higher and of course some fingerprint reader issues.
>>> 
>>> Does this effect everyone?  Do you regret updating?  Since the last iOS
>>> update my 4s seems more stable, no hypersensitivity issues and the phone
>>> after it rings stays in the ear piece.
>>> 
>>> I realize the iOS will definately be faster, so what do you think?
>>> 
>>> Katey
>>> 
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considering updating from a 4s to a 5s

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

I've heard some of the problems some of you have had with the iPhone 5s, namely 
if you turn the volume in the rotor lower than 35% it won't go higher and of 
course some fingerprint reader issues.  

Does this effect everyone?  Do you regret updating?  Since the last iOS update 
my 4s seems more stable, no hypersensitivity issues and the phone after it 
rings stays in the ear piece.  

I realize the iOS will definately be faster, so what do you think?  

Katey 

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Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is Locked twice

[Katey Glass]

I see this on both my iPhone 4s and iPad 3rd gen.  Not sure what is up with
this?  I updated both divices OTA.  I don't think I saw this before iOS
7.0.3.  What I did see before is if I was listening to a book or podcast
and pressed a volume button, it would say screen locked despite the screen
not lighting up -- as I do have some vision and can see that.

Many thanks

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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Shai  wrote:

> Hi,
> I do see this on my iphone5.
> Any time I lock the screen, the phone announces screen locked twice. Once
> right away and another a few seconds later.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Agent086b
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Subject: Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is Locked twice
>
> Hello,
> I don't see this on my iPhone5.
> wonder if it is model specific.
> Max.
>
> On 23/10/2013, at 11:34 AM, AnonyMouse 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone,
> >
> > Actually, this has been there since the iOS 7 Beta phase. A number of
> > people have reported ever since the release of the iOS 7.0. This is
> > unfortunate for those that haven't had this issue until now. Yes, I
> > agree it is quite annoying.
> >
> > Be sure to report this to the Apple Accessibility Team so this can be
> fixed.
> > I have already reported it but the more people report this the more
> > likely it will not be push to the bottom of the stack to fix.
> >
> > Regards,
> > AnonyMouse
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf of Rick Alfaro
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:58 PM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is locked twice
> >
> > Hi, I'm also seeing this on my iPhone 5s with 7.03.  I don't recall
> > hearing this at all before this version.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Rick alfaro
> >
> > On 10/22/2013 7:28 PM, Robin Frost wrote:
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >> Perhaps I'm late to this party but I've never noticed this behavior
> >> Before iOS 7.0.3.  Now when I lock my iPhone 5s VoiceOver reports
> >> That the device is locked just after the locking sound is heard but
> >> then it feels the need to reiterate it to me some 9 seconds later.
> >> Has anyone else seen this behavior now or in previous iOS versions
> >> and I've just missed it?  Might anyone have a clue why Apple would
> >> feel the need to have VoiceOver report it two times in this manner?
> >> Thanks for any light anyone could shed on this for me.
> >> Robin
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Re: difference in quality, restore or new device?

[Katey Glass]

I'd be interested in knowing this as well.  I currently havee an iPhone 4S and 
will be getting a new 5s soon, so I was thinking of going with a new device so 
as to avoid the bugs (namely the answering bug) that seems to be happening on 
my 4s.  

I know it would be very painful to have to re-download all my apps.  Also, I 
was going to make an encrypted backup on my mac as well as an iCloud one.  Just 
in case I decide to not set up as a new device.  

Thanks,

Katey 

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> On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, lol, sometime thinking of a concise subject is tricky.
> 
> As some of you know, I just received my new 5s.  When setting it up, I 
> restored it from my 4s back up.
> 
> Is there a difference in quality/performance when treating the device as new 
> or using a restore?
> 
> The reason I ask:
> the VZW reception inside my house is 1of5 bars.  When it should be 2 to 3.
> Also, I continue to have the horrible VO speaker issue when answering calls.  
> I thought I had read, 5s users weren't having that issue.
> 
> Anyway, what are your thoughts?  I'm tempted to start over.  I'm dreading the 
> task of putting apps back in their folders, but if it'll improve things, it 
> is worth it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: Major issues with Safari after upgrading to iOS 7

[Katey Glass]

Hello,

I have a 3rd Gen iPad and ever since I've updated to iOS 7 I too, have noticed 
that VoiceOver will no longer track when I read webpages either in the page or 
in app reader view.  I never had this problem prior to the upgrade.  

Interesting that doing a restore didn't fix the problem, as I was considering 
doing that.  I may have to take my iPad into an Apple store and have them look 
at it.  However, I still can "read" the page, as VoiceOver will still read the 
text, only thing is that the tracking won't happen, therefore no clicks will be 
heard and I can't see the page moving.  

I think that on my iPhone 4S it does track but I'll have to double check that.  

Many thanks,

Katey 

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> On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Ronni Veninsky  wrote:
> 
> I have an iPad II which I recently upgraded to iOS 7, from the latest version 
> of iOS6... Since doing so I have found that using Safari has become almost 
> impossible. Voice Over's focus is constantly jumping around, usually either 
> to the top or very bottom of the screen. Webpages also occasionally become 
> unnavigatable after a focus jump and the page has to be refreshed a time or 
> two to work again.
> 
> These things are occuring with using the touch screen gestures as well as 
> when I connect a logitech bluetooth keyboard.
> 
> I noticed the glichy focus jumping issue on some webpages from time to time, 
> when using iOS 6, but this is all the time and on every webpage, making most 
> tasks nearly impossible to get done.
> 
> Does anybody have this issue as well? Are there any solutions to this?
> 
> P s: I've tried restoring with no luck...
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: Unable to read what I have written when composing a text message in IOS7

[Katey Glass]

What I do to read what I've written in a text message is I put VO focus on the 
send button and then swipe to the left.  Then it will read the entire tesxt 
message.  

HTH

Katey 

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Re: Reading in Safari

[Katey Glass]

Not really, except that when I  need to go to another page!  the links are
hard to find at that point.  Plus it's a little funny to not see the page
moving and have an idea of knowing where you are in the text.  And if it
hits a picture it acts funny.  Katey


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On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman <
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> HI.  does it affect the way voice over reads?
> Blessings!
> maria and Joe chapman
> Email, iMessage & fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> twitter: bubbygirl
>
>
>
>   On 24/09/2013, at 3:36 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
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>  Hello all,
>
> I was wondering, if anyone has experienced this while reading webpages in
> Sarari on iOS 7?  I have *some* vision and can see when the page moves and
> the box is around what voice over is reading.  Now, since I've updated both
> my iPhone 4s and iPad 3rd gen when reading web pages both in the native
> page view and "reader view" I've noticed that the box no longer tracks
> what's being read and the page doesn't move.
>
> Also, one doesn't hear the "clicks" between paragraphs.  Of course, Ive
> encountered the usual bugs out there but was wondering if this was just
> something particular to my iDevices or if it's known and I haven't seen
> anything out there about it either on this list or by doing a google
> search.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Katey
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Reading in Safari

[Katey Glass]

Hello all,

I was wondering, if anyone has experienced this while reading webpages in
Sarari on iOS 7?  I have *some* vision and can see when the page moves and
the box is around what voice over is reading.  Now, since I've updated both
my iPhone 4s and iPad 3rd gen when reading web pages both in the native
page view and "reader view" I've noticed that the box no longer tracks
what's being read and the page doesn't move.

Also, one doesn't hear the "clicks" between paragraphs.  Of course, Ive
encountered the usual bugs out there but was wondering if this was just
something particular to my iDevices or if it's known and I haven't seen
anything out there about it either on this list or by doing a google
search.

Many thanks,

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Re: IOS 7 visual issues

[Katey Glass]

I have to agree, from a low vision prospective and even sighted co-workers
are saying they have to "get used" to the new screen.  I have a 4s so maybe
on a larger screen the keyboard is easier to see?

Also, on my iPad 3rd Gen last night I noticed that VoiceOver didn't track
any longer.  In other words it would read the text but the box would not
highlight the paragraphs being read -- this happened both in regular safari
and in the "reader" views.  Along with the other VO bugs I Hope they fix
this!  As I was already mostly a VO user but now even more so!
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On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Juan Hernandez
wrote:

> I agree about the keyboard.  I am even getting fully sighted co-workers
> that
> cannot see the keyboard very well.  If anyone knows how to make the letters
> on the keyboard darker please let us know.  The bold option doesn't apply
> to
> the keyboard keys.
>
> Best,
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Malyszka
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 7 visual issues
>
>  I don't have anything to help, but wanted to echo how bad the new visual
> design is for me. I have RP and could do about 75% of what I needed to do
> with magnification and viaually on iOS 6. Now, nearly nothing. I can't even
> see individual keys on the keyboard. Wow, this is a huge step backward for
> low vision users.
>
> Thank goodness for VoiceOver, but truth be told, I am doing lots of
> searching and research of other options like Android because I am in need
> of
> a new phone. I think iOS is not an option in current state.
>
> I am currently restoring to my iphone 4 to 6.1.3.
>
> ...b
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Tessa  wrote:
>
> > Can anyone say how to adjust the screen so it's more like earlier
> versions.
> > Yes I've played with brightness and set the background to contrast,
> > unfortunately contrasting background really doesn't do much and I have to
> > say I strongly dislike the new visual appearince of this upgrade, there
> is
>
> > far too little contrast , reversing the colours isn't a great help
> either,
>
> > the screen is darker and the print is darker still LOL.
> > Any thoughts appreciated.
> > Tessa
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Re: Warning for Voice Dream Reader users from the developer's FaceBook page

[Katey Glass]

Thanks!  I've been using iCloud for a while now!  However, I appreciate it.

Katey

On 9/16/13, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> You can back it up to iCloud by going to settings  iCloud then storage
> andbackup then you can turn on icloud backup if you don't have it on
> next double tap the back up now button to back up.
>
> On 9/16/13, Katey Glass  wrote:
>> Harry,
>>
>> you can always look on the Bookshare.org page and log in, under
>> history there will be the books.  At the moment I'm not in the middle
>> of any books, and I have both R2G and the BookShare app.  So, if I
>> want to start one this week, I may have to use the BookShare one.
>>
>> wonder if it's a good idea to delete it entirely from my phone?  Any
>> thoughts appreciated.
>>
>> Katey
>>
>> On 9/16/13, dan Thompson  wrote:
>>> Thank you very much Richard!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he
>>> trusts in you. Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD GOD is an
>>> everlasting
>>> rock."
>>>
>>> Isaiah 26:3-4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>> Of Harry Bell
>>> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 12:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: ViPone list
>>> Subject: Re: Warning for Voice Dream Reader users from the developer's
>>> FaceBook page
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm getting a new 5S on Friday - so I will delay opening the app after
>>> restoring from backup. Is there any way to back up all the downloaded
>>> books
>>> I use with the app or do I have to go and find all the books again when
>>> transferring from current 3GS to 5S?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Sep 2013, at 04:34, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Voice Dream Reader
>>>
>>> Sep 12 at 12:16pm near
>>> <https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=106003956105810&ref=stream&refid=17>
>>> Boston, MA .
>>>
>>> Bad news, good news and great news!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bad news: current version of Voice Dream Reader does not work on iOS 7.
>>> Apple dropped a few things that will break many apps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good news: I just submitted a new release to Apple that will support iOS
>>> 7.
>>> Hopefully it'll be out in 1 week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Great news: The new release will make all 36 iOS 7 built-in VoiceOver
>>> voices
>>> available in Voice Dream Reader, for free. By the way, in iOS 7, you can
>>> "enhance" any VoiceOver voice. The quality is much better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But please, do not upgrade to iOS 7 until after you download next
>>> release,
>>> 2.8.3!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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Re: where will you purchase the iPhone 5s

[Katey Glass]

I'm getting the 5s as well.  I'm going to try to get it this Friday at
the AT&T store, but not unitl Mid-day as I'll be working a half day
and hope to get there before they run out.

I did get my 4s on the 1st day it was out, and that was late in the
day... so maybe I'll have the same luck this time.

I'm trying to decide which apps I can safely delete off for now and
then if I need them re-install them later, as I have a ton.  That way
it will make the switch easier-- I hope.

Just hoping Voice Dream Reader is approved soon.

Katey

On 9/16/13, Victor Hugo Gallegos  wrote:
> Hello!
> I am buying the 5S, I am trying to avoid the long lines, so I'm thinking if
> I go to an AT&T store, instead of an Apple Store maybe it will  work.
> By the way, this is the first time I will try to get my hands on the iPhone
> the day comes out too, I have waited and lines before at the Apple store
> when the iPhone 4 came out, and it was two months After it had been
> released.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2013, at 5:43 AM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all. Just curious about what different people will do when it comes
>> time to purchasing the iPhone 5s. Oh, and before I go on, just a point to
>> note, the s in the name 5s is lower-case because if it's a capital S it
>> looks too much like the number 5 visually, so Apple made it a small s on
>> purpose. So, the correct way of writing it is iPhone 5s. Anyway, since you
>> cannot pre-order the 5s, will you go to your local phone carrier store, or
>> to the Apple store? I'm just curious as to whether people will go this
>> Friday and wait long lines like Black Friday in the US, or if they will
>> wait a few days until the lines get less.
>>
>> I'm pretty excited myself because this will be my first time getting a new
>> phone the day it comes out. In the past I've gotten it when it was an
>> afterthought, or in the case of the 4s, when it had been out for about 4
>> months already. usually I wait in case there are initial problems found
>> with the first batch of hardware, but this time around I'm diving in with
>> my eyes closed as the saying goes.
>>
>> Although all members are welcome to respond, I'm hoping that only people
>> who are getting the 5s will respond to this thread since I'm not asking
>> about whether it's a good idea, or if the 4s is better, or if we should
>> stay with what we have. This is because there are other viphone threads
>> which have already covered this.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
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Re: Warning for Voice Dream Reader users from the developer's FaceBook page

[Katey Glass]

Harry,

you can always look on the Bookshare.org page and log in, under
history there will be the books.  At the moment I'm not in the middle
of any books, and I have both R2G and the BookShare app.  So, if I
want to start one this week, I may have to use the BookShare one.

wonder if it's a good idea to delete it entirely from my phone?  Any
thoughts appreciated.

Katey

On 9/16/13, dan Thompson  wrote:
> Thank you very much Richard!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he
> trusts in you. Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD GOD is an
> everlasting
> rock."
>
> Isaiah 26:3-4
>
>
>
>
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: ViPone list
> Subject: Re: Warning for Voice Dream Reader users from the developer's
> FaceBook page
>
>
>
> I'm getting a new 5S on Friday - so I will delay opening the app after
> restoring from backup. Is there any way to back up all the downloaded books
> I use with the app or do I have to go and find all the books again when
> transferring from current 3GS to 5S?
>
> Thanks
>
> Harry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 16 Sep 2013, at 04:34, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> Voice Dream Reader
>
> Sep 12 at 12:16pm near
> 
> Boston, MA .
>
> Bad news, good news and great news!
>
>
>
> Bad news: current version of Voice Dream Reader does not work on iOS 7.
> Apple dropped a few things that will break many apps.
>
>
>
> Good news: I just submitted a new release to Apple that will support iOS 7.
> Hopefully it'll be out in 1 week.
>
>
>
> Great news: The new release will make all 36 iOS 7 built-in VoiceOver
> voices
> available in Voice Dream Reader, for free. By the way, in iOS 7, you can
> "enhance" any VoiceOver voice. The quality is much better.
>
>
>
> But please, do not upgrade to iOS 7 until after you download next release,
> 2.8.3!
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
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Re: Fleksy update.

[Katey Glass]

I'm happy to say that my favorites are now working, for the first time!  So, I 
will continue explore with it! :)

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 15, 2013, at 2:00 PM, AppleGourmet  wrote:

> If I have to reply to email, I shut the email then open Fleksy type, then 
> select copy to clipboard, then exit Fleksy and open email app, and paste! 
> That's quite a long process! Is there  a shorter way? Thank you 
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Spotify vs Mog?

[Katey Glass]

Which one in your opinion is more accessible and which one has the better
music selection?  I've been considering these for a while now but wanted
someone's opinions.

Many thanks.

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Re: Fleksy question

[Katey Glass]

Thanks for that answer!  OK so I won't delete it if it's a bug!  I've never 
used favorites before -- just used the cut & copy, but thought with this update 
I'd give it a try.  Oh well, guess I'll just keep using it the same way I've 
been using it for a year or so.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 18, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Chris H  wrote:

> Nothing. It is a bug with this update and another update shall be release 
> very soon. I contacted support with the same problem and that's what I got 
> back.
> 
> On 18/07/2013 22:47, Hope Paulos wrote:
>> Hello. I just updated to the newest version of Fleksy. I'm wondering whether 
>> or not I'm doing something wrong with setting up favorite. I do a double 
>> finger swipe up and go to settings. Then I go to set up favorites, then add. 
>> Then when I double tap on the contact I want, I Double tap on the info: 
>> whether the iPhone, email, etc. When I do this, I'm immediately brought out 
>> of the app and back onto the home screen. What am I doing wrong? When I go 
>> back in to see if the favorite has been added, it has not been.
>> Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
>> Hope
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Re: Fleksy question

[Katey Glass]

Hope & all,

This is ahppening to me as well!  I was thinking of deleting the app and 
reinstalling it to see if that helps.  What do you all think?  

Katey 

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> Hello. I just updated to the newest version of Fleksy. I'm wondering whether 
> or not I'm doing something wrong with setting up favorite. I do a double 
> finger swipe up and go to settings. Then I go to set up favorites, then add. 
> Then when I double tap on the contact I want, I Double tap on the info: 
> whether the iPhone, email, etc. When I do this, I'm immediately brought out 
> of the app and back onto the home screen. What am I doing wrong? When I go 
> back in to see if the favorite has been added, it has not been.
> Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
> Hope  
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Re: voice dream or read 2 go?

[Katey Glass]

Hello Scott,

Yes, I have also noticed that the Read2Go app will sometimes as you say, pause 
while reading.  Like you I found it annoying and this is the reason I've also 
started reading a lot of books with Voice Dream Reader.  

I like the improvements which have been made since I got the app, so I'm a very 
hapy customer. 

Katey 

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On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:21 AM, "Scott Duck"  wrote:

> Hi Caitlyn,
> 
> If it's one or the other, to me it's Voice Dream, hands down.  I have used
> the Read2go app ever sense it came out (I got it the day it was released).
> One thing that I didn't like about it was the lack of flexibility in
> navigation.  With Voice Dream, you can move by adjustable time increment,
> page, or heading.  You can go to page or go to percent.  You have many many
> voices that you can download for two or three dollars (depending on which
> voice).  You can put VO focus in the text window and move by character,
> word, or line.  You can search the text.  You can download directly from
> BookShare as well as several other sources.  You can read PDF files
> directly, without having to export the text first.  It has Drop Box
> integration so you can very easily copy files to the app that you can't
> directly download.  I like it so much that I have started using it for all
> of my reading of text content.  I recently bought a second generation VR
> Stream, primarily for the Acapela voices, but I like this app so much that I
> just sold the Stream.
> 
> Also, I don't know if anyone else has experienced this problem but, starting
> with the Read2go update last September, it started to frequently pause when
> reading in some books, about every cupple scentences.  The pause was just a
> second or so but was very annoying.  I have not had this problem with Voice
> Dream.
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott Duck
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cait and Maggie
> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 4:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: voice dream or read 2 go?
> 
> Hi,
> I'm trying to decide between read 2 go or voice dream.  I used to use in
> daisy for daisy files, but since it's now seemingly dead I need another
> option.
> anybody got any insight as to which of these two apps would be better?
> Most of my daisy files are bookshare books, but I don't want to be limited
> to just bookshare files.
> thanks,
> Caitlyn
> 
> ps-getting both apps isn't an option.
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Re: Bluetooth LG Stereo Headsets

[Katey Glass]

Hello April,

I use the LG HBS 700all the time when listening to Voice Dream, it was the 730 
that gave me problems. So, which one do you have?  If you have the 700 you 
should be good.

Katey  

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 11, 2013, at 2:26 PM, April Coder  wrote:

> 
> On Saturday, May 25, 2013 1:18:52 AM UTC-4, KateyJax wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Allen & All, 
>> 
>> Well, this is interesting that it is an iOS problem, but does sound 
>> plausible.  When my fiance came home from work I had him to pair it to his 
>> Droid Bionic and it works to his satisfaction.  He played Pandora and didn't 
>> experience the dropping or crackeling sounds I did on Pandora on my 4S.  
>> Also, he's sighted and doesn't use talk back on his droid, I may see if it 
>> works, but I won't be switching! 
>> 
>> So, since his 700 is relitively new, we'll trade for now.  However, once the 
>> new iPhone comes out later this year we may have to get a new bluetooth for 
>> him!  Also, I forgot to mention earlier that reading using Read2Go was also 
>> an awful experience, as it seemed that I'd lose a few words on each 
>> sentence.  Also, typing without VoiceOver on (as I do have a little vision) 
>> wasn't a good experience either as the key clicks wouldn't even come through 
>> the headset.   
>> 
>> Katey 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
>> On May 24, 2013, at 8:12 PM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote: 
>> 
>> > Katey, sorry for your problems with your headset but I can confirm that 
>> > returning items to Amazon is easy and as you described. I've only had to 
>> > return a handful of things over the years but I've always been very 
>> > satisfied with their service and the return process. 
>> > 
>> > Good luck with your return. 
>> > 
>> > Alan Lemly 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message- 
>> > From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> > Of Katey Glass 
>> > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 6:48 PM 
>> > To:  
>> > Subject: Bluetooth LG Stereo Headsets 
>> > 
>> > Hello All, 
>> > 
>> > I just wanted to write you all and let you know that I ordered an LG HBS 
>> > 730 
>> > headset from Amazon to replace my older HBS 700.  I read all the reviews 
>> > which were mixed but I went ahead and tried it.   
>> > 
>> > Unfortunately for a voiceover user this is not a good choice.  I should 
>> > have 
>> > just bought the 700 as I know this worked but I thought it would.   
>> > 
>> > I should have paid attention to those reviewers who said that between 
>> > songs 
>> > that audio would break up & one could hear a crackeling sound.  That's a 
>> > warning for those of us who use VoiceOver as VoiceOver stutters and 
>> > texting 
>> > is nearly impossible!!!  I know all bluetooth headsets have a lag, but 
>> > this 
>> > one is absolutely unworkable!   
>> > 
>> > I know this is the headset & not my phone as I can "unpair" the 730 and 
>> > repair my old trusty 700 and do the exact same thing (type a text) and VO 
>> > doesn't stutter or totally go away! 
>> > 
>> > So, while I'd hoped the newer model with the voice which tells you that 
>> > you 
>> > are paired & lets you know that the battery status iswould work, it 
>> > doesn't! 
>> > So, this will be my first return to Amazon!  Fortunately that sounds like 
>> > it 
>> > will be an eaxy process, as they said when I called them that I can go 
>> > through the website & tell them I want to return it & then I can take it 
>> > to 
>> > any UPS store and they will print my lable.   
>> > 
>> > I will say this, that this is my first ever return to Amazon and I've been 
>> > shopping with them since 1998  So, either I've been extremely lucky or 
>> > I 
>> > was fortunate that everything and everyone liked what I bought them.   
>> > 
>> > Katey 
>> > 
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Re: Listening to Voiceover

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

When out I have the volume loud enough so that I can hear my phone but not 
overly loud.  I also hold it off center and more than likely closer than the 
average sighted person does.  Also there are times I use a magnifier and 
actually look at my phone, and yes I know this looks different, as I've seen 
others who have low vision do this and I figure if someone sighted wants to 
ask, then they can .. but in public I have my cane as well, so I figure they 
probably know I don't see well!  LOL  

I do carry my apple earbuds with me for when it's too loud and I don't want to 
use a magnifier as Voice over is really more efficient for me to do things with 
for longer periods of time.  And yes I know that theres zoom on my phone, but I 
have to have that zoomed in so much that thats very inefficient for me to use 
at all.  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On May 25, 2013, at 2:26 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos"  wrote:

> Hi, to add to this discussion what I do is use a single-ear headset like the 
> Plantronics M50. I just recently purchased the Samsung HM1700 and am liking 
> the volume on it better than the M50, but I haven't found a comfortable fit 
> for it yet. So, still on the fence about that one. I find that the single-ear 
> headset is good for me because I can pull it out right away if I need total 
> hearing with both ears, but at the same time it's not jammed in my ear 
> totally covering it in case I need it either. For phone calls the M50 sucks 
> in my opinion, but for all the other pros it offers I still think it's the 
> best single-ear headset. If I need something covering both of my ears I will 
> either use the Motorola S11 headset which wraps around the back of your neck, 
> has great range, and has great sound with playing music in both ears. It has 
> a slightly annoying delay which I'm not too proud of, but all Bluetooth 
> headsets have this delay. Some are just worse than others though. The M50 and 
> the HM1700 are ok, but the S11 isn't the best.
> 
> I try to avoid using wired connections because I like all that radiation 
> flowing through my skull and because since we are all going to die some day, 
> why not die cord free and happy? I don't have Apple earpods, and I'm not sure 
> if I will get them since I have a bit of choice of things already. yes it's 
> more to charge, but I also have a 3-in-1 charger usb cable with the standard 
> usb end on one side which plugs into a usb charger wall plug on one end, and 
> the other end has either a 30-pin for iPhone 4, and then it has a lightning 
> plug for iPhone 5 and newer, and lastly, a Micro USB for the headsets or an 
> Android phone.
> 
> Since I usually carry around a extra battery pack from new Trent which holds 
> either 6000 or 12,000 mAH depending on the one I use, I'm good with not 
> running out of juice if I'm around places I can't connect to a wall.
> 
> Lastly, if I don't have all my gadgets with me, I will hold the phone close 
> to my ear like I'm making a phone call and tap away that way. We live in a 
> sighted world and so I try to not appear to be socially inept, however many 
> sighted people do worse things, and we just don't know about them because we 
> can't see them. So, that helps me not worry too much.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
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> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
> 
> On 5/24/2013 11:28 AM, Brice Smith wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm curious to know how you all listen and use your phones when you're
>> out in public. Do you use earbuds and an earpiece, or do you turn the
>> speech down low and do your best?
>> 
>> In noisy environments most people can just look down at their phones.
>> If you use speech, you want to be able to hear the speech without
>> everyone else hearing it or becoming distracted by it, too. Sometimes
>> I'll just hold the phone up toward my shoulder/ear and type/text so I
>> can keep the volume down real low for privacy, but this looks really
>> odd and unprofessional. I've thought about grabbing an earpiece or
>> earbuds, but I usually forget, or it's just something else to charge
>> and keep track of.
>> 
>> What works for you?
>> 
>> Brice
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Re: Bluetooth LG Stereo Headsets

[Katey Glass]

Hello Allen & All,

Well, this is interesting that it is an iOS problem, but does sound plausible.  
When my fiance came home from work I had him to pair it to his Droid Bionic and 
it works to his satisfaction.  He played Pandora and didn't experience the 
dropping or crackeling sounds I did on Pandora on my 4S.  Also, he's sighted 
and doesn't use talk back on his droid, I may see if it works, but I won't be 
switching!

So, since his 700 is relitively new, we'll trade for now.  However, once the 
new iPhone comes out later this year we may have to get a new bluetooth for 
him!  Also, I forgot to mention earlier that reading using Read2Go was also an 
awful experience, as it seemed that I'd lose a few words on each sentence.  
Also, typing without VoiceOver on (as I do have a little vision) wasn't a good 
experience either as the key clicks wouldn't even come through the headset.  

Katey

Sent from my iPad

On May 24, 2013, at 8:12 PM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:

> Katey, sorry for your problems with your headset but I can confirm that
> returning items to Amazon is easy and as you described. I've only had to
> return a handful of things over the years but I've always been very
> satisfied with their service and the return process.
> 
> Good luck with your return.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 6:48 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Bluetooth LG Stereo Headsets
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I just wanted to write you all and let you know that I ordered an LG HBS 730
> headset from Amazon to replace my older HBS 700.  I read all the reviews
> which were mixed but I went ahead and tried it.  
> 
> Unfortunately for a voiceover user this is not a good choice.  I should have
> just bought the 700 as I know this worked but I thought it would.  
> 
> I should have paid attention to those reviewers who said that between songs
> that audio would break up & one could hear a crackeling sound.  That's a
> warning for those of us who use VoiceOver as VoiceOver stutters and texting
> is nearly impossible!!!  I know all bluetooth headsets have a lag, but this
> one is absolutely unworkable!  
> 
> I know this is the headset & not my phone as I can "unpair" the 730 and
> repair my old trusty 700 and do the exact same thing (type a text) and VO
> doesn't stutter or totally go away!
> 
> So, while I'd hoped the newer model with the voice which tells you that you
> are paired & lets you know that the battery status iswould work, it doesn't!
> So, this will be my first return to Amazon!  Fortunately that sounds like it
> will be an eaxy process, as they said when I called them that I can go
> through the website & tell them I want to return it & then I can take it to
> any UPS store and they will print my lable.  
> 
> I will say this, that this is my first ever return to Amazon and I've been
> shopping with them since 1998  So, either I've been extremely lucky or I
> was fortunate that everything and everyone liked what I bought them.  
> 
> Katey 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Bluetooth LG Stereo Headsets

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

I just wanted to write you all and let you know that I ordered an LG HBS 730 
headset from Amazon to replace my older HBS 700.  I read all the reviews which 
were mixed but I went ahead and tried it.  

Unfortunately for a voiceover user this is not a good choice.  I should have 
just bought the 700 as I know this worked but I thought it would.  

I should have paid attention to those reviewers who said that between songs 
that audio would break up & one could hear a crackeling sound.  That's a 
warning for those of us who use VoiceOver as VoiceOver stutters and texting is 
nearly impossible!!!  I know all bluetooth headsets have a lag, but this one is 
absolutely unworkable!  
 
I know this is the headset & not my phone as I can "unpair" the 730 and repair 
my old trusty 700 and do the exact same thing (type a text) and VO doesn't 
stutter or totally go away!

So, while I'd hoped the newer model with the voice which tells you that you are 
paired & lets you know that the battery status iswould work, it doesn't!  So, 
this will be my first return to Amazon!  Fortunately that sounds like it will 
be an eaxy process, as they said when I called them that I can go through the 
website & tell them I want to return it & then I can take it to any UPS store 
and they will print my lable.  

I will say this, that this is my first ever return to Amazon and I've been 
shopping with them since 1998  So, either I've been extremely lucky or I 
was fortunate that everything and everyone liked what I bought them.  

Katey 

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Re: Lost my Bluetooth your phone

[Katey Glass]

What do you think of the afterschockz earphones?   My fiance and I have been 
considering getting them?  Especially with the discount code.  

Thanks in advance. 

Katey.  

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:59 PM, "Rose Combs"  wrote:

> You know, we ordered two sets of the Aftersoz a couple of weeks ago, one for
> me and one for my husband and they discounted both of them, that to me was
> way cool.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Lost my Bluetooth your phone
> 
> For a single ear piece, I would recommend the Blueant Q3. It is not cheap,
> at $99.
> For a stereo bluetooth headset, I would recommend the Aftershokz Bluez bone
> conduction headphones. The list price is $119, but serotek is offering a 40%
> discount promo. When ordering from the www.aftershokz.com site, enter the
> promo code SPN40 for the 40% discount, which brings the price down to about
> $75.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Lynn Coats
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Lost my Bluetooth your phone
> 
> Hi,
> Well it seems my jawbone era Bluetooth airphone has sprouted legs. I can't 
> find it anywhere. So, any good recommendations? For an earphone or headset? 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Facebook

[Katey Glass]

I found that out this week as well, I know I used to be able to use it on both 
my iPhone & iPad, but nomore.  Wonder why?

Katey 

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On Mar 30, 2013, at 1:50 PM, "Marco Migotti"  wrote:

> The facebook app doesn't work well on the iPad but it will work on the
> iPhone. 
> 
> Marco 
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> Hi there can you use Facebook on the iPhone
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Re: Dice World Game

[Katey Glass]

Thanks for letting me know.  BTW, my user name is Katey Jax.  I've tried to
find Moopie and King Pig and it says neither exist!

So if anyone wants to challenge me, send me an invite.

Katey

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 5:57 AM, MamaPeach  wrote:

> No, just double tap on Remove ads again. I had to do this and I was not
> charged again.
>
> -Original Message- From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:06 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: Dice World Game
>
>
> I'd guess to either remove from App Switcher on iPad, then open app again,
> or, if that doesn't do it, uninstall and from iPad then reinstall the app
> to your iPad.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.**com]
> On Behalf Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dice World Game
>
> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering if I have this on both my phone & iPad   if I removed the
> ads from my iPhone what would I need to do to get them removed from my pad?
> I removed them from my phone via an in app purchase but when I downloaded
> it to my pad it has the ads again.  Do I need to pay again to remove the
> ads? BTW both my iPad and IPhone are tied to the same Apple ID.
>
> Any insights would be great!
>
> Katey
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <
> kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>>
>> I found a button in middle of page on right side -- not exactly sure
>> which page -- but I understood it to be $1.99 to remove ads.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.**com]
>> On Behalf Of Moop Curran
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dice World Game
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>> I didn't get the impression that there were only a limited number of
>> practice times, I've played practice yahtzee and farkle quite a bit. Also,
>> to remove the ads, I'm not sure how I got it to that dialogue, it just
>> popped up and I double tapped the remove ads button.
>> Courtney
>> Sent from My Macbook Pro
>>
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:23 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <
>> kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Two questions.
>>>
>>> I'm more of a solitary player, spending time trying to beat the computer
>>> while waiting for one thing or another. The iTunes Description suggests to
>>> me there may be only a limited number of "practice" games available. Is
>>> this true, or can one play a fair amount if the me versus computer approach
>>> is desired?
>>>
>>> Also, what do you have to do to get rid of ads. I didn't see mention of
>>> this in the itunes Description, either mention of that I saw of in-app
>>> upgrades or a pro version.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Keith
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.**com]
>>> On Behalf Of Moop Curran
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Dice World Game
>>>
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> I removed ads on dice world, on my iPad and it worked. By the way, my
>>> username on there is Moopie.
>>> Courtney
>>> Sent from My Macbook Pro
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Rob  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>> After listening to Anonymouse on AppleVis Podcast, I downloaded Dice
>>>> World from the app store.
>>>> Its a fun game, My favorite game is Pig.
>>>> if you want to play look me up.
>>>> my username is King Pig
>>>> today I noticed voice over does not read all the adds, I had to turn
>>>> voice over off then tap the screen then turn on voice over. I want to use
>>>> the in app purchase to remove the adds, but tapping the remove adds button
>>>> does nothing.
>>>> have any of you experienced this?
>>>> --
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Re: Dice World Game

[Katey Glass]

Hello all,  

I was wondering if I have this on both my phone & iPad   if I removed the ads 
from my iPhone what would I need to do to get them removed from my pad?  I 
removed them from my phone via an in app purchase but when I downloaded it to 
my pad it has the ads again.  Do I need to pay again to remove the ads?  BTW 
both my iPad and IPhone are tied to the same Apple ID.  

Any insights would be great!

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:22 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
 wrote:

> Thanks.
> 
> I found a button in middle of page on right side -- not exactly sure which 
> page -- but I understood it to be $1.99 to remove ads.
> 
> Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Moop Curran
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dice World Game
> 
> Hi Keith,
> I didn't get the impression that there were only a limited number of practice 
> times, I've played practice yahtzee and farkle quite a bit.  Also, to remove 
> the ads, I'm not sure how I got it to that dialogue, it just popped up and I 
> double tapped the remove ads button.
> Courtney 
> Sent from My Macbook Pro
> 
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:23 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Two questions.
>> 
>> I'm more of a solitary player, spending time trying to beat the computer 
>> while waiting for one thing or another. The iTunes Description suggests to 
>> me there may be only a limited number of "practice" games available. Is this 
>> true, or can one play a fair amount if the me versus computer approach is 
>> desired?
>> 
>> Also, what do you have to do to get rid of ads. I didn't see mention of this 
>> in the itunes Description, either mention of that I saw of in-app upgrades 
>> or a pro version.
>> 
>> Thanks. Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Moop Curran
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dice World Game
>> 
>> Hi Rob,
>> I removed ads on dice world, on my iPad and it worked. By the way, my 
>> username on there is Moopie. 
>> Courtney
>> Sent from My Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Rob  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> After listening to Anonymouse on AppleVis Podcast, I downloaded Dice World 
>>> from the app store.
>>> Its a fun game, My favorite game is Pig.
>>> if you want to play look me up.
>>> my username is King Pig
>>> today I noticed voice over does not read all the adds, I had to turn voice 
>>> over off then tap the screen then turn on voice over. I want to use the in 
>>> app purchase to remove the adds, but tapping the remove adds button does 
>>> nothing.
>>> have any of you experienced this?
>>> -- 
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>>> http://musicmaker365.podomatic.com/
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
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>>> You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
>>> 206-426-3505
>>> "God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"
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Re: stuck sleep/power switch on a 4S

[Katey Glass]

Well, as I had AppleCare Plus I was able to successfully exchange my iPhone
4S with the worn out sleep/wake switch for a new one.  Since I'd backed up
to the Cloud everything came back.  That is except for my BookShare books,
but fortunately the BookShare website has a History of the books you've
downloaded so I just re-downloaded them again.
So I guess the lesson is to  have AppleCare plus so that your phone is in
warrenty for the full 2 years.
Katey

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Katey Glass  wrote:

> Daniel,
>
> Thanks for letting me know that information!  I really appreciate it.  Wow
> even on the iPhone 5 that happens!  I guess it's a small moving part and
> they are bound to wear out.  Interesting that Apple tests their phones and
> the carriers don't.  I got my phone from AT&T.
>
> Will let you all know what happens, but I expect smooth sailing.  And
> yes,I've backed up my phone to the iCloud therefore everything should come
> back, correct?  I wonder if my bookshare books will or if I'll have to
> redownload those?
>
> Katey
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>  On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, I've had that happen to me, but on an iPhone 5. As far as you
> getting refurbished ones, they're brand new. They simply go in the back in
> the store and grab a new phone. Your AppleCare will transfer over to the
> replacement phone as well.
> > I was also told that phones purchased through Apple are tested more
> before they're actually sent to stores for sale, as opposed to carriers,
> who just get phones shipped straight to them after manufacturing.
> > On Mar 3, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I have a 32 Gig iPhone 4S that I purchased on Oct 15, 2011 and I have
> Apple Care Plus for it.  Unfortunately my sleep/power switch has become
> very hard to use.  I have always had my phone in a case & have never
> dropped or gotten it wet.  Currently I have a speck candyshell case on my
> phone, however even when I take the phone out of the case it's still very
> hard to get it to sleep/wake using the switch.
> >>
> >> I do have a Genius Bar appointment this afternoon, and until then I've
> been using the assistive touch menu as a work around, however I've seen on
> the internet that some people have had problems getting Apple to exchange
> their phones,now they could be people who don't have Apple Care Plus but I
> know my phone is under warrenty as ironically I was at the Apple Store on
> Friday and was able to exchange my power cable which was fraying.
> >>
> >> Apparently this is a well documented thing that happens to iPhone 4 &
> iPhone 4S's.  I'm shocked as one would think as much as we use the home
> button that that would wear out much faster!
> >>
> >> My question is has anyone on this list had their power/sleep button
> become hard to use?  If so, did Apple exchange the phone?  I know I could
> upgrade to the iPhone 5 but I don't want to, I'd like to see what happens
> this year with the new update.
> >>
> >> This is my original iPhone 4S, I had 3 iPhone 3GS's (all exchanged
> through the Genius Bar) as I had battery problems with the first 2 so
> within a 1.5 year time span I had 3 3GS's and in the same amount of time I
> have only had 1 4S.  Oh yeah, do you know if the phones you get when you
> exchange them at Apple are they refurbished or are they new?
> >>
> >> Thankks,
> >> Katey
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
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Re: stuck sleep/power switch on a 4S

[Katey Glass]

Daniel, 

Thanks for letting me know that information!  I really appreciate it.  Wow even 
on the iPhone 5 that happens!  I guess it's a small moving part and they are 
bound to wear out.  Interesting that Apple tests their phones and the carriers 
don't.  I got my phone from AT&T.  

Will let you all know what happens, but I expect smooth sailing.  And yes,I've 
backed up my phone to the iCloud therefore everything should come back, 
correct?  I wonder if my bookshare books will or if I'll have to redownload 
those?  

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yes, I've had that happen to me, but on an iPhone 5. As far as you getting 
> refurbished ones, they're brand new. They simply go in the back in the store 
> and grab a new phone. Your AppleCare will transfer over to the replacement 
> phone as well.
> I was also told that phones purchased through Apple are tested more before 
> they're actually sent to stores for sale, as opposed to carriers, who just 
> get phones shipped straight to them after manufacturing. 
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have a 32 Gig iPhone 4S that I purchased on Oct 15, 2011 and I have Apple 
>> Care Plus for it.  Unfortunately my sleep/power switch has become very hard 
>> to use.  I have always had my phone in a case & have never dropped or gotten 
>> it wet.  Currently I have a speck candyshell case on my phone, however even 
>> when I take the phone out of the case it's still very hard to get it to 
>> sleep/wake using the switch.
>> 
>> I do have a Genius Bar appointment this afternoon, and until then I've been 
>> using the assistive touch menu as a work around, however I've seen on the 
>> internet that some people have had problems getting Apple to exchange their 
>> phones,now they could be people who don't have Apple Care Plus but I know my 
>> phone is under warrenty as ironically I was at the Apple Store on Friday and 
>> was able to exchange my power cable which was fraying.  
>> 
>> Apparently this is a well documented thing that happens to iPhone 4 & iPhone 
>> 4S's.  I'm shocked as one would think as much as we use the home button that 
>> that would wear out much faster!  
>> 
>> My question is has anyone on this list had their power/sleep button become 
>> hard to use?  If so, did Apple exchange the phone?  I know I could upgrade 
>> to the iPhone 5 but I don't want to, I'd like to see what happens this year 
>> with the new update.  
>> 
>> This is my original iPhone 4S, I had 3 iPhone 3GS's (all exchanged through 
>> the Genius Bar) as I had battery problems with the first 2 so within a 1.5 
>> year time span I had 3 3GS's and in the same amount of time I have only had 
>> 1 4S.  Oh yeah, do you know if the phones you get when you exchange them at 
>> Apple are they refurbished or are they new?  
>> 
>> Thankks, 
>> Katey 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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stuck sleep/power switch on a 4S

[Katey Glass]

Hello all,

I have a 32 Gig iPhone 4S that I purchased on Oct 15, 2011 and I have Apple 
Care Plus for it.  Unfortunately my sleep/power switch has become very hard to 
use.  I have always had my phone in a case & have never dropped or gotten it 
wet.  Currently I have a speck candyshell case on my phone, however even when I 
take the phone out of the case it's still very hard to get it to sleep/wake 
using the switch.

I do have a Genius Bar appointment this afternoon, and until then I've been 
using the assistive touch menu as a work around, however I've seen on the 
internet that some people have had problems getting Apple to exchange their 
phones,now they could be people who don't have Apple Care Plus but I know my 
phone is under warrenty as ironically I was at the Apple Store on Friday and 
was able to exchange my power cable which was fraying.  

Apparently this is a well documented thing that happens to iPhone 4 & iPhone 
4S's.  I'm shocked as one would think as much as we use the home button that 
that would wear out much faster!  

My question is has anyone on this list had their power/sleep button become hard 
to use?  If so, did Apple exchange the phone?  I know I could upgrade to the 
iPhone 5 but I don't want to, I'd like to see what happens this year with the 
new update.  

This is my original iPhone 4S, I had 3 iPhone 3GS's (all exchanged through the 
Genius Bar) as I had battery problems with the first 2 so within a 1.5 year 
time span I had 3 3GS's and in the same amount of time I have only had 1 4S.  
Oh yeah, do you know if the phones you get when you exchange them at Apple are 
they refurbished or are they new?  

Thankks, 
Katey 

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iTunes Music Match vs Amazon Cloud player

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

I was wondering what is the difference between Amazon Cloud player & iTunes 
Music match?  First off, are they both accessible?  I found the Amazon Cloud 
player in the App Store & so far it seems accessible, plus apparently I'd 
purchased a few albums which are stored in my Cloud account.  

I guess I was wondering this is that there is a CD I want to purchase on Amazon 
which if I purchased the physical CD theyd add it to my Cloud account.  If I 
purchased the same "Album" from iTunes would it be in a cloud someplace or 
would it be on my iPhone physically?  Can one stream from the Cloud using 
iTunes Match?  I know you can using Amazon's Cloud Player.  

Thanks in advance for your help.

Katey

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Re: voice dream and bookshare

[Katey Glass]

Hello,

At the moment thiis program works with the following, found in the "add"
menu.

DropBox
Web Browser
Editor
Clip Board
Guttenberg
BookShare

I think it can read PDF's as well.  I actually haven't read all the
directions that it came with.  Hoping someone else who's used it longer can
chime in!

Katey

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Penny Reeder wrote:

> Does this app work with other reading apps, like iBooks, googlebooks, and
> Nook? Thanks. Penny
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Katey Glass  wrote:
>
> > I just downloaded the paid version yesterday, and once you sign in with
> your BookShare credentials, from the home screen go to the bottom and hit
> the "add" button.   list of choices will display with the last one being
> BookShare.  Click on the BookShare button and you will get the familiar
> search screen - the one with the  categories  that you get when using the
> BookShare app.
> >
> > BTW, I do like the BookShare app, and have been happily using it for a
> long time, I just wanted to try this app out because of the different
> voices one can choose from, plus some books while they read while in the
> BookShare app,  for whatever reason the sentenses are read choppily, even
> though they display fine on the screen.  I have enough vision to see the
> highlight as it reads, and I can see it pause from time to time in some
> books.  So, I thought maybe this app wouldn't do that.
> >
> > Also, note I got it yesterday and it was on sale, that is on Tuesday,
> Feb 19th it was on sale.
> >
> > Katey
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Feb 19, 2013, at 6:09 PM, denise avant 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> For those of you who have tried voice dream, do you have to download
> books from bookshare through the voice dream app or does it recognize there
> are already downloaded books on your i-device? thanks.
> >>
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Re: voice dream and bookshare

[Katey Glass]

I just downloaded the paid version yesterday, and once you sign in with your 
BookShare credentials, from the home screen go to the bottom and hit the "add" 
button.   list of choices will display with the last one being BookShare.  
Click on the BookShare button and you will get the familiar search screen - the 
one with the  categories  that you get when using the BookShare app.  

BTW, I do like the BookShare app, and have been happily using it for a long 
time, I just wanted to try this app out because of the different voices one can 
choose from, plus some books while they read while in the BookShare app,  for 
whatever reason the sentenses are read choppily, even though they display fine 
on the screen.  I have enough vision to see the highlight as it reads, and I 
can see it pause from time to time in some books.  So, I thought maybe this app 
wouldn't do that.  

Also, note I got it yesterday and it was on sale, that is on Tuesday, Feb 19th 
it was on sale.  

Katey 

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> Hi all,
> For those of you who have tried voice dream, do you have to download books 
> from bookshare through the voice dream app or does it recognize there are 
> already downloaded books on your i-device? thanks.
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Re: Spotify

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I did place an album in a playlist, there is a grayed out button
saying listen in offline mode that I can't switch.  Do you pay a
monthly fee?

Katey

On 1/25/13, Dean Wilcox  wrote:
> I think the downloading albums thing is to do with downloading offline so
> you can listen when you have no internet signal.  As you can probably tell
> this is a feature I don't play with much but I think you would put the album
> in a play list and it would download that way.  I stream most of my music on
> Spotify including radio which can be accessed from the bottom row of tabs,
> the second from the right.
>
>
> On 25 Jan 2013, at 17:00, Katey Glass  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I was wondering if there are any Spotify Users on the list.  I've read
>> what AppleVis has to say about the app.  I've downloaded it and it's
>> true that there are some unlabled buttons but one can fiddle with it
>> and it's usable.
>>
>> My question is this, I'm currently using the free 48 hour trial.  I
>> can look up artists & albums on my iPhone 4S running iOS 6.0.1 and
>> play them -- streaming them.  It was my understanding that if one pays
>> the $9.99 per month that one can download the albums, is this right?
>> I've looked at the website and that seems to confirm that, but I can't
>> figure out how in the app I can, either on my iPhone or iPad 3rd Gen.
>>
>> Plus, I'm guessing that one can create play lists from the music you
>> look up.  Is this correct?  And can they be downloaded to the iDevice
>> as well?  Maybe when one's just getting the free 48 hour trial one can
>> only stream?
>>
>> I think it's neat to be able to play an entire album or a song on
>> demand!  I do have a lot of CD's that I can burn but my XP computer is
>> so slow and the process is slow, maybe once I get a new computer it
>> won't be that slow!
>>
>> Plus, after the trial expires if I don't choose to subscribe to the
>> service, does it function much like Pandora?  and one can stream radio
>> stations.  the only drawback I can see to this is that free members
>> are extremely limited to how much they can stream!  Something like 10
>> hours per month! If that be the case, I'd rather stick to Pandora or
>> Songza!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Katey
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Re: Object recognition app

[Katey Glass]

Thanks Tom,

I was able to remember the name by going to AppleVis.  I downloaded it onto my 
iPhone 4S and using moderate room light I was able to get it to successfully 
identify nearly all the objects I placed in front of it.  For a first version I 
think it's pretty good, but like others have said a repeat function would be 
good.  I will admit I have some sight so I can line things up pretty well, even 
if I can't read the print myself, but even items placed upside down are 
recognized.  I will have to see how my friend who has less vision than I do and 
who says she can't use her Camara to do VizWiz or other apps like that does 
with this.  

Thanks,

Katey 

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On Jan 20, 2013, at 7:48 PM, "Thom"  wrote:

> make sure you have a good light source
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Debbie Downey
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 7:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Object recognition app
> 
> 
> I just installed this app and would like to know whether this only works
> outdoors? If I double tap on the about button there is a heading that says
> Tap Tap See and a subheading that says about this app but then when you
> double tap on it nothing happens! 
> 
> So far it just says picture 1 was null or something like that! 
> 
> Deb
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Thom
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Object recognition app
> 
> The one that you are thinking of is called tap tap see. It's free in the app
> store. We have used this for about a week now, and it's pretty amazing at
> times. Today it said that I was in the Big Lot's parking lot.
> 
> Enjoy,
> Thom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Katey Glass
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:02 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Object recognition app
> 
> 
> Hello Listers,
> I was wondering what are teh app names that are out that one can use to
> recognize objects?  I know Omoby can do this but I thought I recently heard
> a podcast that there's a new one out.  
> 
> If anyone knows please let me know, if not I'll have to go review the
> podcasts I subscribe to find it.  
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Katey 
> 
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Object recognition app

[Katey Glass]

Hello Listers,
I was wondering what are teh app names that are out that one can use to 
recognize objects?  I know Omoby can do this but I thought I recently heard a 
podcast that there's a new one out.  

If anyone knows please let me know, if not I'll have to go review the podcasts 
I subscribe to find it.  

Many thanks,

Katey 

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Re: Apps "Waiting"

[Katey Glass]

It can take a long time to restore from the cloud it depends on how many apps 
you have to restore.  It took my friend a while to restore from the cloud a 
number of apps from one iPad to another.  I wasn't sure how many apps she had 
though.  So, bottom line is the more apps you have and the size can affect how 
long it takes to restore them.  

HTH

Katey 

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On Jan 4, 2013, at 5:32 PM, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
 wrote:

> I had something similar happen when I unintentionally interrupted an iPhone 
> Restore prematurely; the majority of my apps just sat on the HomeScreen, 
> saying "Waiting".. Repeating the Restore fixed the problem for me.
> 
> HTH, Keith
> -Original Message-
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> Eric
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apps "Waiting"
> 
> I am setting up a new iPod touch. I connected to iTunes and synchronized a 
> group of apps. Now all of those show as "waiting ". Double tapping them does 
> not do anything.
> 
> Can someone refresh me what I have to do next to finish the synchronizing 
> process.
> 
> All thanks!
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Voice Dream Reader

[Katey Glass]

Hello all,

I'm glad to see more people have experienced what I have with the
Dream Reader app.  I have only the demo version (AKA Free) version and
I do like the voice choices that it has!  However, as others have
noted that while VO is running those of us who are using it can't
interact with the text like the sighted people can.  I have limited
vision (can't read the print on the phone for sure) but I can see when
I place my finger on the text it moves -- just as if VO weren't
running!  Therefore I don't see a way for VO users to interact with
the text as the directions describe.

I'm a avid BookShare reader and have the Read2Go app.  I see that the
Dream Reader seems to not be able to move past the notice section, as
others have stated I will write the developer.  However, as I've been
a BookShare member since 2007 and been using Read2Go for probably a
year (at least) I'll write to them to see if they can get additional
voices -- maybe in a similar fashion that Dream Reader lets us choose
which ones we download.

I realize this is a limit of Apple, but it's a shame that apps that
are voicing and use the Accopella voices can't "share" them!  As I
noticed that both Heather and Ryan are choices for DreamReader and
these are the ones that come with Read2Go.  I know it's the sandbox
effect!  The same is true for GPS apps, many of them use the same
Samantha voice that comes on the phone!

Well, enough of my rant.

Katey

On 1/4/13, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Thanks Rick,
> If one is going to read many Bookshare books, this app is pretty much not
> there yet if you can't skip the notice and other preliminary regions of a
> book.
> I agree, it would be nice to access more file types with Read2Go and I
> would
> like to see more Acapella voices available.  Perhaps if enough people
> contact both Bookshare and the Voice Dream Reader author we can get
> something going.  Given the voices choices, Voice Dream is a very appealing
> option, not to mention the price, but I'm not willing to listen through
> that
> notice section and all the table of contents, reviews, etc., in Bookshare
> books.  To me, the $19.99 was well worth it for Read2Go just to easily
> navigate the books.
>
> Later,
> Richard
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rick Alfaro
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 8:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader
>
> Richard,
>
> I did use this app to download a BookShare title but found no good way to
> move past the copywrite text.  If you tap the editor button, you get a
> message stating that the document is too large to edit.  It's a shame as
> this could be a really great app for reading but has some major
> accessibility issues that currently don't make it a great choice for a
> blind
> user IMHO.  As others have already stated, the real text area where one can
> interact with the text with various gestures is totally invisible to VO.  I
> do plan to contact the author and give this feedback.  It's interface to
> BookShare is pretty nice and straight forward so I hope the app gets
> better.
>
> Actually, what i would really like to see is the Read2Go app simply added
> more supported file formats and it would be perfect.  I haven't purchased
> it
> for that very reason, only BookShare books are supported and for $20 I
> would
> want more formats, at least text, PDF, and epub without DRM of course.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Rick alfaro
>
> On 1/3/2013 7:41 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Could someone who has used this app with a bookshare book explain how to
> navigate passed the notice?
>> That is rather easy to do with Read2Go.
>> Plus, you can have access to the text, which also means you can read with
> a braille display if you use VoiceOver instead of the Acapella voice.
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Brett  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes it can.
>>>
>>> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>>>
>>> On 04/01/2013, at 1:31 AM, "Wren Langley" 
> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Can this app read msword documents, particularly msword.docs?

 Thank you.

 GOD BLESS,

 Wren



 -Original Message- From: Brett
 Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 3:05 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Voice Dream Reader

 Hi,
 No, unfortunately you can't do that, as voice over doesn't see any text
> in a text box. I have written to the author with suggestions on how to make
> this text Boxmore accessible, so we'll see what happens. I still think for
> pleasure reading this is an awesome app.

 Sent from Brett's iPhone

 On 03/01/2013, at 4:08 AM, "Richard Turner"
 
> wrote:

> Except for the question of how to access a particular word in the
> text using VoiceOver.  Or at least, I have not found a way to do that.
>
> Richard
>
>

Re: Earpods and Apple Care

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

Yes earbuds/earpods are covered by AppleCare as I have gotten a replacement 
when mine started to short out.  Also, the USB/Power cord is covered as well.  
I have had AppleCare on all my Apple devices.  

HTH

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 18, 2012, at 2:28 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> They should be. Contact Apple to find out for sure. 
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 19/12/2012, at 7:54, Kimberly thurman  wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone  know if the earpods that came with  my iPhone 5 are covered 
>> under Apple Care?  They have already developed a short, and I've been as 
>> careful with them as I can possibly be.  
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any help!  :)
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Re: Router and Iphone

[Katey Glass]

Hello All,

I see that this says router & iPhone, however, my fiancé and I both have iPads 
running iOS 6.01 and we have an older Lynksys wrt54g router and we never seem 
to loose connection with it.  The only time we ever seemed to have a loss of 
connection is when we had a friend over who was also using an iPad and we all 
were trying to play Uno on RS Games.  Then we'd get thrown off the server but 
none of us seemed to lose Internet connectivity.  

I have a iPhone 4S and I connect it to the router to get my podcasts and to 
back it up at night and then again, I don't see it losing connectivity.  So, 
how do you all know you are losing internet?  

I guess I shouldn't worry as things are working as they should.  Also, I may 
mention we do live in an extremely small apartment so, maybe it's because we 
are close to the router which I'd purchased in 2007 when I got my Icon.  

Thanks,

Katey 

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 18, 2012, at 11:39 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

> Hi,
> At home I'm currently using a Netgear router that's a year old and it's 
> pretty solid.  I gave my Linksys WRT54g to my girlfriend because she wanted 
> wi-fi in her apartment.  It works great with her laptop, but, like Marissa, I 
> have the devil of a time getting my iPhone 4 to stay connected.   So it could 
> be a router issue that might be resolved by a firmware update, but maybe the 
> IOS update will take care of the issue, too.
> 
> Tom
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Alex Stone" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:33 PM
> Subject: RE: Router and Iphone
> 
> 
>> Marissa, I used to have a Linksys router with my previous isp, which worked
>> perfectly with my Iphone. Perhaps you should take it up with whoever gave
>> you the router.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Marissa
>> Sent: 18 December 2012 22:22
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Router and Iphone
>> 
>> I have a linksys wrt54g2 router and it does not stay connected to my iPhone,
>> updated firmware so should i get a new router and if so which one? I've
>> changed channels and nothing
>> 
>> Marissa
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Re: weather ap?

[Katey Glass]

Yes, I noticed that as well.  Glad to hear its not just me.  However my other 
weather apps worked just fine.  

Katey 

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On Nov 20, 2012, at 10:14 PM, "goshawk on horseback" 
 wrote:

> am getting the same for london also, so must be a general problem with where 
> ever the app gets it's info from.
>  
> Simon
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Don Moore
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:47 AM
> Subject: RE: weather ap?
> 
>  
> I noticed that too.  And, it was a quiet day around here otherwise too.  
> Eventually though it came back to fair.
>  
>  
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jesus Garcia
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: weather ap?
> 
> It will update eventually, but the information can take a few moments and at 
> first it wants to tell me there are tornados in the area.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 19:58
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: weather ap?
>  
> Hmmm, wonder what the issue is?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Daniel Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: weather ap?
>  
> Yes, it’s not updating for me either, yet I can update any other cities I add 
> in manually, just not my current location.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: weather ap?
>  
> Hi, anyone else having a problem with the native weather ap not updating?  It 
> hasn’t all day for me.  Boyh on wy-fy and not.
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Re: *Do! Not!* hard reset your iPhone. VoiceOver dies.

[Katey Glass]

Yes it is Tom.   

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On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:07 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

> Hi,
> Okay, I'm having a memory lapse here.  How do you do a hard reset?  Is that 
> holding down the home and power butttons for several seconds?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tom
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:49 PM
> Subject: RE: *Do! Not!* hard reset your iPhone. VoiceOver dies.
> 
> 
>> I found the exact same thing with the iPod Touch 5th Generation today.
>> I'm sticking with the tapping the power button six times quickly to cause a
>> reboot.
>> Those of you who roll their eyes at such things can roll them silently
>> please.  It works, it doesn't cause VoiceOver to turn off and default to
>> factory settings.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Matthew Campbell
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: *Do! Not!* hard reset your iPhone. VoiceOver dies.
>> 
>> Hello all.
>> I had to hard reset my iPhone 4 this evening.
>> When the phone booted up, VoiceOver did not come back, triple click home no
>> longer worked, and when I finally got VoiceOver back thanks to iTunes all my
>> VoiceOver settings were back to factory defaults.
>> This is just a warning to not hard reset your iPhone unless you absolutely
>> must.
>> I just sent a message off to Apple accessibility, and am waiting to hear
>> back. I'm hoping that it's something that can be fixed easily.
>> Hope this helps someone.
>> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: Speaker phone problem

[Katey Glass]

I'll have to double check, but I think I've noticed this as well.  I'm
using an iPhone 4s with iOS 6.0.1.

Katey

On 11/16/12, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I just started noticing this as well after upgrading to IOS 6.0.1. I
> haven't tried the work around of placing my hand over the top of the
> phone yet.
>
> On 16/11/12 12:13, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Sharon,
>>
>>
>>
>> This happens very rarely on my 4S and I can usually fix it by covering
>> the top part of the phone with my hand, taking it away and maybe
>> repeating a few times. You may also try to reboot your phone. Anyhow,
>> I’d say it’s definitely not what I would consider a bug for me and I
>> have not seen any messages about this being a problem for others either
>> before or after the iOS 6 update. If the problem persists and the phone
>> never goes off speakerphone you might want to take it to an Apple Store
>> as the proximity sensor could be defective.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
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